Yadda wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 1:41pm:


And that is what they WANT. They wrote it an now they are fullfilling prophesy so they can annhilate every country that has been the fly in the ointment and prolonging their 'GLOBALIZATION' plans.

They want it all and that includes what's ours.

And you and their supporters are the ones who will bring us down. To them we ar the GOYIM (meaning beast or cattle) ... and our mothers are Shiksas (whores).

Read the protocols and learn how they have done it. This is an easy to read version.

http://iamthewitness.com/Protocols-in-Modern-English.htm

Hi Jan,
The Jews are pretty scary - read this:

http://www.rense.com/general34/esde.htm


Quote:

Hi Gizmo,
Google the words & you'll find them on hundreds of sites - not just rense.
This is a true story.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 8:31pm:


Better still watch the videos

This pro-democracy movement in Egypt may be successful and have its brief moment in the sun, but you can be sure that the dead hand of islam will crush it sooner rather than later. Witness how the Mulsim Brotherhood has jumped on the bandwagon, not through any love of democracy but to ensure its own control of the 'revolution'.

Yadda wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 1:41pm:

Better than that, here's a BBC Documentary all about Israeli DEMOCRACY ... the democracy being imposed on Middle Eastern countries by the US ... It talks about Egypt and the secrecy surounding Israels nuclear capacity, but more importantly this is an OLD doco so who knows what the jews have in store for the rest of the world today.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/38763/Israels_Secret_Weapon___BBC_Docume...

The hyperlink doesn't show the full URL so it may have to be copied and pasted.

Learn about the real democracy that so many advocate but know nothing about.

Jan wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 9:04pm:


Jan,
As you say, you know not.


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Jan wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 9:04pm:




"...the SELF appointed 'chosen ones' " ???

That is an interesting interpretation Jan, but in fact the O.T. bible is not, and never was, an endorsement or declaration of the [self] importance of the nation and people of ancient Israel.
NOR, is it an endorsement of the 'worth' of the modern Jewish people.

Deuteronomy 9:4
Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.
5  Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
6  Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.



Jan, you seem to [want to] believe that the  the O.T. bible reads, as a Zionist text [i.e. a moral endorsement of the Jewish people].
It does not.

Throughout its pages, the O.T. bible reveals, essentially a condemnation of the nation of Israel and her people.
The accounts recorded within the O.T. bible reveals that the nation of Israel and her people comprehensively failed to adhere to their covenant, with their God.
Throughout its pages, the O.T. reveals that the nation of Israel and her people, were just as corrupt, and just as corruptible, as all other men.



Psalms 106:6
We have sinned with our fathers, we have committed iniquity, we have done wickedly.
7  Our fathers understood not thy wonders in Egypt; they remembered not the multitude of thy mercies; but provoked him at the sea, even at the Red sea.
8  Nevertheless he saved them for his name's sake, that he might make his mighty power to be known.
9  He rebuked the Red sea also, and it was dried up: so he led them through the depths, as through the wilderness.
10  And he saved them from the hand of him that hated them, and redeemed them from the hand of the enemy.
...
34  They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them:
35  But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.
36  And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them.
37  Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
38  And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.
39  Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.


And Jan, in relation to your own expressed opinions in this forum;
My opinion, is that, the [false] opinions we hold, and the [false] opinions we broadcast, reveal much about ourselves, and about the 'worth' of our own 'worldview'.

I am not Jewish, but i would stand beside a Jewish person any day, rather than stand beside a person who is [imo] so utterly mistaken and deluded, as yourself.

The Jewish people are far from perfect, BUT, their forefathers are the people to whom our God, chose to reveal himself.
I know that is true.
There is a reason that God chose to reveal himself to the forefathers of the Jewish people.
I understand that reason, you obviously, still, do not.
Read the first book of the O.T. bible, that is where the 'reveal' is.

"Our fathers understood not thy wonders in Egypt;"

You're all a bunch of knuckleheads. Interesting events are happening before your eyes and all you can blather on about is the same old crap.

We're currently witnessing an entirely new phenomenon in world history. Of course, grassroots calls for democratic reform are nothing new. What is new is that it seems to be working. The Egyptian army chief came out yesterday in support of the people.

I can't remember this ever happening - perhaps the end of the Cold War in some Eastern European states comes close, the Velvet Revolution in the Czech Republic for example. In Egypt, so far: no Tienamin Squares, no military coups, no civil war, no Bolshevik-style takeovers.

So far.

The question is begging: why? And why now? What forces are driving all this? The fact that this is a cross-border phenomenon shows that power is not contained within nation states.

It's amusing to see the US getting all nervous. This is exactly what they said the invasion of Iraq would produce; spreading "freedom and democracy" throughout the region.

Clearly, you can't impose democracy on a state or people. This Arab phenomenon shows that democracy can come from the ground up, but I'm not really sure what forces have fertilized it. The internet has been a strong enabler, but this is just a way of connecting people and sharing information. Al Jazeera last night was showing how organised the protesters are. Crowds in Cairo are being searched for weapons by civilian volunteers. This appears to be a genuinely civil movement, neighbours and local people coming together and organising themselves.

So far, from the reports I'm seeing, this also has nothing to do with religion - at least in an organised, power-based sense. Of course, this could change very quickly in the vacuum that will arise. What will happen next is anybody's guess.