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What is a virus?
Oct 8th, 2025 at 2:36pm
 
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Viruses are microscopic organisms that can infect hosts, like humans, plants or animals. They’re a small piece of genetic information (DNA or RNA) inside of a protective shell (capsid). Some viruses also have an envelope. Viruses can’t reproduce without a host. Some common diseases caused by viruses include the flu, the common cold and COVID-19.



Not critters, not plants, moulds, fungus or slimes.

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Reply #1 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 3:39pm
 
Bbwiyawn is a virus. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 3:42pm
 
Thanks for trying to spoil a thread you assclown!
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Reply #3 - Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:24pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Bbwiyawn is a virus. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #4 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 12:12pm
 
Continuing from the OP and quoting the same source:

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Viruses are small germs (pathogens) that can infect you and make you sick. They can infect humans, plants, animals, bacteria and fungi. Each one infects only specific types of hosts.

Viral infections in humans can cause no symptoms or make you extremely ill. Types of diseases they can cause include:

Respiratory illnesses.
Diarrhea and vomiting.
Sexually transmitted infections (STIs).
Skin conditions.
A virus is a small piece of genetic information in a “carrying case” — a protective coating called a capsid. Viruses aren’t made up of cells, so they don’t have all the equipment that cells do to make more copies of themselves. Instead, they carry instructions with them and use a host cell’s equipment to make more copies of the virus.

It’s like someone breaking into your house to use your kitchen. The virus brought its own recipe, but it needs to use your dishes, measuring cups, mixer and oven to make it. (Unfortunately, they usually leave a big mess when you finally kick them out.)


Any comments, questions?

Viruses are bad, can make us or other critters etc sick.

Viruses can only multiply in the body of a host—are only RNA or DNA in a protein envelope, sometimes a double envelope.
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Reply #5 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 8:35pm
 
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What are the types of viruses?
Experts group viruses into categories — like family and genus — based on similar features, like size, shape and the type of genetic material they carry. Some common types of viruses that you might hear about include:

Influenza viruses.

Human herpes viruses.

Coronavirus.

Human papillomaviruses.

Enteroviruses.

Flaviviruses.

Orthopoxviruses.

Hepatitis viruses.

There are also some viruses that have unique qualities, like retroviruses and oncoviruses.
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Reply #6 - Oct 9th, 2025 at 9:23pm
 
Do you really think people don't know what viruses are? Or the names of many? Why is this in Fringe instead of Health and Welfare or even tech? Why do you think copy/paste makes you look smart. Is this to kick up the posts in the Quarrelsome Quokka's moribund MRB? I do wonder what is "fringe" about this.
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Reply #7 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 6:55am
 
What is “environmental” about a thread of “funny” dogs and cats?

What is “environmental” about an MRB named “Environment” with no environmental posts?
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Reply #8 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 7:06am
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 9:23pm:
Do you really think people don't know what viruses are? Or the names of many? Why is this in Fringe instead of Health and Welfare or even tech? Why do you think copy/paste makes you look smart. Is this to kick up the posts in the Quarrelsome Quokka's moribund MRB? I do wonder what is "fringe" about this.



Monk doesn't know.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 11:09am
 
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Influenza viruses (Orthomyxoviridae)
The Orthomyxoviridae family of viruses includes influenza A and B, which cause the flu. Strains of influenza A also cause avian flu (“bird flu”) and swine flu (H1N1).


Human herpesvirus (Herpesviridae)
Herpesviridae is a large family of viruses. They cause several types of illnesses, like oral and genital herpes, chickenpox, shingles, Epstein-Barr and cytomegalovirus (CMV).


Coronaviruses
Coronaviruses are a subfamily of viruses. SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is probably the most well-known coronavirus. But other types of coronaviruses cause mild illnesses, like a cold.


Human papillomavirus (HPV)
Human papillomaviruses are part of the Papillomaviridae family of viruses. They cause warts. Some types of HPV can lead to cancers.


Enteroviruses
Enterovirus is a genus (one level smaller than the group called a “family”) of viruses that infect your intestinal tract. Types of enteroviruses cause polio and hand, foot and mouth disease.


Flaviviruses
Viruses in this genus are often spread by mosquitoes. They cause illnesses like Zika, West Nile, dengue fever and yellow fever.


Orthopoxviruses
Viruses in the genus Orthopoxvirus cause blistering rashes. Mpox and smallpox are orthopoxviruses.


Hepatitis viruses
Though they don’t all belong to the same family or genus, hepatitis viruses all infect your liver. Hepatitis A, B and C are the most common.


Retroviruses
Retroviruses are RNA viruses that use special proteins to make DNA. The virus then inserts its DNA into yours. Your cells read the viral DNA as if it were its own instructions. HIV and human T-lymphotropic virus 1 (HTLV-1) are retroviruses.


Oncoviruses
Oncoviruses are viruses that can cause cancer. Viruses that have been linked to specific cancers include:


HPV.
Epstein-Barr.

HIV.
Hepatitis B and C.

HTLV-1.
Human herpesvirus 8 (HHV-8).


Satellite viruses
Satellite viruses can’t reproduce without other, “helper” viruses. Most satellite viruses are found in plants.

Bacteriophages
Also just called “phages,” bacteriophages are viruses that specifically infect bacteria. Scientists are studying bacteriophage therapy as a potential way to treat bacterial infections that don’t respond to antibiotics.
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Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2025 at 7:11pm
 
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How do viruses get into your body?


Viruses usually enter your body through your mucous membranes. These include your eyes, nose, mouth, penis, vagina and anus. Some viruses get in through a break in your skin or from a bite from a mosquito or tick.


How do viruses work?


Viruses have several steps to infecting cells and reproducing. They include:

Attachment.
Entry.
Replication
Assembly.
Release.


Discuss these steps starting tomorrow.
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 2:24pm
 
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Attachment and entry



Viruses can get inside of cells in three ways:

Receptor binding. Cells have receptors on the outside that can receive signals from proteins in your body. Think of them like doors. Some viruses trick cells into thinking they should be allowed inside, so the cells let them in the door.

Direct fusion. Some viruses attach directly to host cells to get inside.

Bacteriophages inject their genetic material into bacterial cells. The entire virus doesn’t need to get inside.


Replication, assembly and release


Once the virus or its genetic material is inside of a cell, it uses either a lytic cycle or lysogenic cycle to reproduce (some use both):

Lytic cycle. The virus uses the host cell’s machinery to make more copies of itself. Pieces of the virus assemble, wrapping up the genetic material in the capsid. Viruses make many copies of themselves this way. Eventually, there are so many copies of the virus inside the cell that it bursts. Those virions can now go and infect more cells.

Lysogenic cycle. Some viruses have a dormant, or silent phase. They get inside cells and then wait. Instead of setting up shop to cook in your kitchen right away, it’s as if they put their recipe into your body’s recipe book without you knowing it. The cells don’t realize the virus is there and continue to reproduce as they normally would.

Each new copy of the cell also has a copy of the virus in it. Certain triggers can cause those cells to burst, spreading viral particles into your body that can infect other cells. Triggers could include stress, chemical signals or temperature changes./quote]
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Reply #12 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 10:15am
 
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Anatomy



What are the characteristics of viruses?

You can describe viruses based on a number of features, including:

What they look like (their shape and size).

Genome properties.

Structural proteins and whether or not it has an envelope.


Virus shapes
Viruses can look very different from each other. Scientists often describe them by shape. Types of virus shapes include:

Icosahedral or polyhedral. This is a geometric shape with many sides, similar to a soccer ball. Most viruses that infect people are icosahedral.

Helical. This virus shape looks like a cylinder. Its genetic information is coiled up like a spring inside.
Spherical. Spherical viruses are helical or polyhedral viruses that have an envelope around them. They’re shaped mostly like a ball.

Complex.

Complex viruses combine more than one shape. Viruses that infect bacteria have a polyhedral “head” connected to a helix “body.”


Virus size

All viruses are very small — too small to see without a strong microscope. If you measure them under a microscope, most are between 20nm (nanometers) to 400nm. For comparison, the smallest viruses are about 2,000 times smaller than a grain of sand. They’re about 100 to 1,000 times smaller than the cells in your body.

But their sizes can vary a lot. For instance, the measles virus is about five times larger than Zika virus. Viruses also have varying weights (molecular weight).
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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:34pm
 
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Genomic properties of viruses


The information stored in the virus — its genetic material — is either DNA or RNA. DNA is like the instruction manual for how to build the virus. RNA is like the translation of the instructions in a language that the cell machinery can read and make into proteins. Viral DNA or RNA can be:


Linear or circular.

Positive-sense or negative-sense. RNA that’s positive-sense can be used as instructions to make more virus parts without any additional steps. Negative-sense RNA viruses need special proteins (enzymes) to create positive-sense RNA before viruses can make more copies of themselves. This is also called “plus-strand” (or “positive-strand”) or “minus-sense” (or “negative-strand”). Most DNA viruses are positive-sense.


Single-stranded or double-stranded.


DNA viruses can have their genetic material in a single string of instructions (ssDNA), or two sets that are paired together (dsDNA). (Human DNA is double-stranded.) RNA viruses are usually single-stranded, though there are some double-stranded RNA viruses.


Structural proteins


The structural proteins of a virus make up the capsid, or protective coating. They can also make up the envelope, if there is one, and any structures that stick out from it that help it enter cells (like the spike proteins of coronaviruses).



Finally, a mention of coronaviruses.
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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 11:35am
 
A virus is like Monk in this forum.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #15 - Dec 2nd, 2025 at 8:48am
 
Continuing the description of viruses, same source as above:

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Are viruses living or nonliving?

Viruses aren’t living organisms. But there’s some debate over this. Generally, biologists don’t consider viruses to be alive because they can’t perform the functions that living organisms do. For instance, they can’t convert food into energy (metabolism) and they can’t live or reproduce without a host cell.

On the other hand, they can reproduce in the right host cell and they evolve over time to survive. Plus, they can damage and destroy host cells to do so. Because of this, many consider them a “gray area” between living and nonliving things.



This calls for a discussion of what constitutes “living.”

One criteria is irritability to environmental stimuli. Life reacts to irritants. On this criteria viruses are not alive.

Replication is another a virus does replicate, create copies of itself. But it needs outside help—a host cell—to do so. Does that satisfy the replication criterion?

Difficult question!
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Reply #20 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:37pm
 
god doesn’t exist.
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 8:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:37pm:
god doesn’t exist.

Prove it.

Does imagination exist? Love? Hope? Sympathy, charity? Understanding across ages?  A bond between past, present and future?

It's all God.



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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 9:50pm
 
Imagination etc only started existing when the Homo genus had evolved sufficiently—Neanderthals, Denisovans, Sapiens, maybe a species before that—Homo erectus perhaps.

Not proof of afterlife, more proof of fear of death.
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Reply #23 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 5:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:37pm:
god doesn’t exist.

Prove it.

Does imagination exist? Love? Hope? Sympathy, charity? Understanding across ages?  A bond between past, present and future?

It's all God.


What exactly elevates your opinions to such a lofty perch that you imagine everyone else owes you the labour of disproving whatever notion drifts through your head?

Why is it that you're never held to the most basic standard of demonstrating that what you claim has even a passing acquaintance with reality?

This pattern defines almost every exchange you're involved in. You're so chronically unable to step outside your own narrow frame that you simply presume your beliefs to be true by default, as though your internal certainty were some kind of empirical credential.

I used to assume you were merely trolling, but at this point it's far more plausible that you're operating with a few missing pieces. It's why you're such an easy mark, time and again.

And honestly, if your deity actually existed, wouldn't it be trivially easy to demonstrate?

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