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Reply #60 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:30pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:05am:
Something people often overlook is the intensity of Appalachian conservatism and libertarianism, such that QAnon conspiracies are a manifestation of their preparedness to believe even the ridiculously unbelievable in their defence of them.

The crazier the conspiracy, the more kudos there is to be had in believing it in defence of their conservatism and libertarianism.

"Y'all can burn me for a fool, but yer won't get no ash".

I blame their amydgala.

Must be.

Appalachians + amydgala  = America explained.

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Reply #61 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:37pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:05am:
Something people often overlook is the intensity of Appalachian conservatism and libertarianism, such that QAnon conspiracies are a manifestation of their preparedness to believe even the ridiculously unbelievable in their defence of them.

The crazier the conspiracy, the more kudos there is to be had in believing it in defence of their conservatism and libertarianism.

"Y'all can burn me for a fool, but yer won't get no ash".

And it's hilarious watching Australians twist themselves into pretzels trying to empathise with Appalachians... Like there's Australian honour, and not ridicule, in becoming a Clampett from the Beverley Hillbillies.

And closeted sexual deviants as Jed Clampett.
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Reply #62 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 6:00pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:05am:
Something people often overlook is the intensity of Appalachian conservatism and libertarianism, such that QAnon conspiracies are a manifestation of their preparedness to believe even the ridiculously unbelievable in their defence of them.

The crazier the conspiracy, the more kudos there is to be had in believing it in defence of their conservatism and libertarianism.

"Y'all can burn me for a fool, but yer won't get no ash".

And it's hilarious watching Australians twist themselves into pretzels trying to empathise with Appalachians... Like there's Australian honour, and not ridicule, in becoming a Clampett from the Beverley Hillbillies.

And closeted sexual deviants as Jed Clampett.




Way too over interpreted.
I was listening to a podcast on the court jester and court jester privilege in medieval times.
They were allowed to say outrageous things to get the plebs to have a good laugh at the establishment.
They had to be unstifled, outrageous, over the top, self amused and irreverent to the social norms.

I thought.....that's Trump.
Stop taking the guy so seriously.
Just have a laugh and move on
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Re: It's official: Trump IS a dictator
Reply #63 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 6:15pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:05am:
Something people often overlook is the intensity of Appalachian conservatism and libertarianism, such that QAnon conspiracies are a manifestation of their preparedness to believe even the ridiculously unbelievable in their defence of them.

The crazier the conspiracy, the more kudos there is to be had in believing it in defence of their conservatism and libertarianism.

"Y'all can burn me for a fool, but yer won't get no ash".

And it's hilarious watching Australians twist themselves into pretzels trying to empathise with Appalachians... Like there's Australian honour, and not ridicule, in becoming a Clampett from the Beverley Hillbillies.

Way too over interpreted.
I was listening to a podcast on the court jester and court jester privilege in medieval times.
They were allowed to say outrageous things to get the plebs to have a good laugh at the establishment.
They had to be unstifled, outrageous, over the top, self amused and irreverent to the social norms.

I thought.....that's Trump.
Stop taking the guy so seriously.
Just have a laugh and move on

I don't know what you were watching, but that's not the key role of the court jester.

The role was to say to the king what could not be said by any other courtier or subject.

When the modern-day equivalent, the stand-up comedian, lampoons Trump, he threatens to sue them or rants about how they're losers and are failing.

Trump has cultivated the image of thin-skinned, white trash in a suit to signal to Appalachians (incredibly) that he's one of them.

Appalachian culture celebrates ignorance over intelligence... it eschews education in favour of direct revelation from god through the holy spirit...

Trump is exploiting them through their culture.
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Reply #64 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 7:52pm
 
Trump may present as thin skinned to vibe with his audience but I think he has the hide of a rhino.

A thin skinned coward would retire and just go play golf.

Instead Trump put himself in the position where if he lost in 2024. He was likely going to die in prison.
I don't have the guts to do that.
On a toss of the coin result.

Pretty dam gutsy if you ask me.

The left like to call.h captain bonespurs.
But again, if I had 35 lawsuits coming at me, I wouldn't be able to sleep.

Donny is an oaf and uncouth but I don't buy he is some cowardly shmuck.
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Reply #65 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:10pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 6:15pm:
I don't know what you were watching, but that's not the key role of the court jester.

The role was to say to the king what could not be said by any other courtier or subject.

When the modern-day equivalent, the stand-up comedian, lampoons Trump, he threatens to sue them or rants about how they're losers and are failing.

Trump has cultivated the image of thin-skinned, white trash in a suit to signal to Appalachians (incredibly) that he's one of them.

Appalachian culture celebrates ignorance over intelligence... it eschews education in favour of direct revelation from god through the holy spirit...

Trump is exploiting them through their culture.



Silly, complulsive nonsense. Your amygdala is evidently overstimulated to a ridiculous degree about Appalachians.

Standing for immigration control, against bepenised 'women', against relentless race baiting, relentless off-shoring of industry to rivals; instead preferencing one's own population over every other countries' , etc, etc is not Appalachian white trash thin skinned religious ignorance (you DO lay it on very thick).

There are political forces in other countries that stand for these things with zero Appalachian obscession.


As the women in London made it clear and simple:

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Reply #66 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:24pm
 
Now that Trump is "officially" a dictator does that give him more or less power that the President of the USA. I thought that President of the USA was the most powerful job going. I just don't see Trump giving up the power he has and stepping back.
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Reply #67 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Trump may present as thin skinned to vibe with his audience but I think he has the hide of a rhino.

A thin skinned coward would retire and just go play golf.

Instead Trump put himself in the position where if he lost in 2024. He was likely going to die in prison.
I don't have the guts to do that.
On a toss of the coin result.

Pretty dam gutsy if you ask me.

The left like to call.h captain bonespurs.
But again, if I had 35 lawsuits coming at me, I wouldn't be able to sleep.

Donny is an oaf and uncouth but I don't buy he is some cowardly shmuck.

Being thin-skinned is about being easily offended... it doesn't signal inner strength, but fear of inner weakness.

Lashing out doesn't signal courage; even a cornered wild kitten can lash out.

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Reply #68 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:39pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Trump may present as thin skinned to vibe with his audience but I think he has the hide of a rhino.

A thin skinned coward would retire and just go play golf.

Instead Trump put himself in the position where if he lost in 2024. He was likely going to die in prison.
I don't have the guts to do that.
On a toss of the coin result.

Pretty dam gutsy if you ask me.

The left like to call.h captain bonespurs.
But again, if I had 35 lawsuits coming at me, I wouldn't be able to sleep.

Donny is an oaf and uncouth but I don't buy he is some cowardly shmuck.




It was veteran journalist Zito who said in her 2018 book The Great Revolt: Inside the Populist Coalition Reshaping American Politics that Trump’s supporters took him seriously but not literally, while his opponents did the opposite.
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The activists of the far left were quick to respond to the assassination attempt. One faction immediately declared that the whole thing was staged so Trump could win sympathy. Another group lamented that the gunman had missed. Unfortunately for them, Thomas Crooks was a figure too shadowy and confused to be portrayed as a Mangione-style heroic martyr.

How, wonders Zito, did American society get to this level of polarisation, so that a significant part of the population would advocate murder as a legitimate tactic against their enemy? There has always been a strong strain of us-versus-them extremism in US politics but the level of hatred directed at Trump is a new phenomenon. Some of it is simple snobbery, the view that Trump is too uncouth to be the leader of the country. Other leftists say that they oppose him on policy grounds but that does not explain the prevalence of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There is also a class element, with Trump supporters seen as uppity hicks. All of these answers are plausible but none seem complete. Maybe that will be revealed with more time and perspective.

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Zito believes that Trump’s rise presages a fundamental realignment in American politics and society, although she adds the caveat that it might be too early to know for sure. She describes a dichotomy between the ‘placed’, who value roots, family and community, and the ‘placeless’, who value their credentials, income, and are essentially nomads. It is an interesting, useful way of looking at the dividing lines.

To the ‘placed’, Trump’s shout of ‘Fight, fight, fight!’ while he was still bleeding was packed with positive meaning. It was not, as some of Trump’s virulent detractors claimed, a call for violent insurrection. Instead, according to Zito, it was a call to his supporters for resilience, courage, and a belief in themselves.


From a review of Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America’s Heartland
Salena Zito
Hachette, pp.256, $50.00
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Reply #69 - Aug 5th, 2025 at 9:00pm
 
When George Wallace discovered to his surprise, not only that 'they stomped the floor' when he started talking about n****rs and segregation, but also who the 'they' were.

They were more than the regions of the South, where ethnic chauvinism of that kind was endemic - particularly within southern Appalachia - these 'they' included large northern regions and cities as well.

Trump began parroting Wallace's dog-whistle to a base, not with n****rs and segregation, by then long since dead, but 'Mexicans'... later to be all Hispanics and Haitians.

He discovered that evoking the ghost of Wallace led to popular acclaim - a Wallace-style stomping of the floor.
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