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Will Ghislaine Maxwell get a pardon from Trump ?
Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:57pm
 
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That, or a Pardon.

One thing I am certain of, a year from now Miz Maxwell will be free, one way or the other.
Presidential Pardon, after all the whole Epstein thing was a hoax, and anything she says will confirm that. That is if she is willing to cut a deal with Pedophile in Chief.
Otherwise, "Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose", so it will be (assisted?) suicide, like many of the Epstein Victims who spoke out and associates of Epstein who might have been ready to spill their guts.
And not the least the Arch Villain in this farce bordering on Greek tragedy (for the victims a tragedy). The bloody trail in this in just six years is actually longer than the one Putin left among the RuSSian opposition in a quarter of a century.
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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:57pm
 

Yep - she'll get a pardon if she dumps Clinton in the poo

and wipes the slate clean for the big guy.   Wink
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I don't know about her, but I would bet my very last dollar that Trump will preemptively pardon his entire team at the end of this term - Hegseth, Gabbard, Bondi, Bessent and RFK Jr to name a few prominent sycophantic morons. He might even pardon himself, although he may not need to since his Supreme Court picks basically said he is immune.
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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2025 at 8:13pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
I don't know about her, but I would bet my very last dollar that Trump will preemptively pardon his entire team at the end of this term - Hegseth, Gabbard, Bondi, Bessent and RFK Jr to name a few prominent sycophantic morons. He might even pardon himself, although he may not need to since his Supreme Court picks basically said he is immune.


What is wrong with a president giving pre emptive pardons.
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Ghislaine will get a pardon, and Leroy will continue to make excuses or deflect
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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2025 at 9:04pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 8:13pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
I don't know about her, but I would bet my very last dollar that Trump will preemptively pardon his entire team at the end of this term - Hegseth, Gabbard, Bondi, Bessent and RFK Jr to name a few prominent sycophantic morons. He might even pardon himself, although he may not need to since his Supreme Court picks basically said he is immune.


What is wrong with a president giving pre emptive pardons.


What is wrong with releasing the Epstein files immediately, completely, in full and unredacted?
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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2025 at 11:50pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 8:13pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
I don't know about her, but I would bet my very last dollar that Trump will preemptively pardon his entire team at the end of this term - Hegseth, Gabbard, Bondi, Bessent and RFK Jr to name a few prominent sycophantic morons. He might even pardon himself, although he may not need to since his Supreme Court picks basically said he is immune.


What is wrong with a president giving pre emptive pardons.


Perhaps this is what is wrong. Wink




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Leroy wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 8:13pm:
What is wrong with a president giving pre emptive pardons.



Oh Peeroy, I see you still have your lips around Trump's dick
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Reply #8 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 2:47am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
Yep - she'll get a pardon if she dumps Clinton in the poo

and wipes the slate clean for the big guy.   Wink


Ah, so you know.

Next you'll say, but of course. They're all as bad as each other, no?

So tell me this. Which other prez has ever pardoned somebody for going under oath and lying about their involvement in an elite paedophile ring?

Over to you.


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Reply #9 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 2:53am
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 8:13pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
I don't know about her, but I would bet my very last dollar that Trump will preemptively pardon his entire team at the end of this term - Hegseth, Gabbard, Bondi, Bessent and RFK Jr to name a few prominent sycophantic morons. He might even pardon himself, although he may not need to since his Supreme Court picks basically said he is immune.


What is wrong with a president giving pre emptive pardons.


You mean pardoning people you've ordered to do crimes?

That's a tough one, Leroy. What's wrong with pardoning someone for lying about your involvement with a convicted child sex offender?

Thoughts?
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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 6:15am
 
Big Donger wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 2:47am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
Yep - she'll get a pardon if she dumps Clinton in the poo

and wipes the slate clean for the big guy.   Wink


Ah, so you know.

Next you'll say, but of course. They're all as bad as each other, no?

So tell me this. Which other prez has ever pardoned somebody for going under oath and lying about their involvement in an elite paedophile ring?

Over to you.




But the big guy is innocent.


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Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 7:39am
 
Apparently no one ever visited Epstein Island.. so why is she in prison ?
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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 12:18pm
 
It wouldn’t be the first time Trump has appeared to dangle a pardon over someone providing evidence that could impact him personally and politically. (In this case, he has demonstrated past personal ties to Epstein, and his administration is scrambling to clean up its botched handling of the Epstein files after previously promising to release them.)

A similar situation played out during the Russia investigation, when Trump repeatedly left open the possibility of pardoning key witnesses like Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn and Michael Cohen. Critics alleged this amounted to obstruction of justice.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report didn’t draw conclusions on possible obstruction, but it did cite Trump’s pardon comments as “evidence” that Trump’s actions “had the potential to influence Manafort’s decision whether to cooperate with the government.”

Manafort indeed wound up being a decidedly uncooperative witness, with a bipartisan Senate report saying his repeated lies hamstrung its own investigation. And Trump later pardoned him in a move that could certainly be understood as a reward for his lack of cooperation.
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Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2025 at 4:12pm
 
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That’s dependant on…. Whether Grose-laine squeals like a pig and about whom?
It has to be selective… the ones that don’t have much power to either… pardon her, protect her, pay her enough to live very comfortably outside of prison.

I’ve often wondered where all those hidden files she kept as a type of insurance leverage were. If she were to die somehow, that someone else could reveal them… thus her life is on hold….

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Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:38am
 
Newsmax is painting her as a victim now.



Everyone is thinking that she might come out and name Trump, but I think what's more likely is that she'll name a bunch of Democrats, maybe toss in a few billionairs and royalty, she'll say Trump did nothing wrong, MAGA will be stupid enough to paise her AND Trump for taking down the pedos and Trump then pardons her for "Telling the truth".

Is MAGA stupid enough to fall for it?

The state media is laying the groundwork.
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Reply #15 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:43am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:38am:
Newsmax is painting her as a victim now.



Everyone is thinking that she might come out and name Trump, but I think what's more likely is that she'll name a bunch of Democrats, maybe toss in a few billionairs and royalty, she'll say Trump did nothing wrong, MAGA will be stupid enough to paise her AND Trump for taking down the pedos and Trump then pardons her for "Telling the truth".

Is MAGA stupid enough to fall for it?

The state media is laying the groundwork.


This is what worries me about Todd Blanche being the one to interview her - without any recording of those conversations or any other people involved. Blanche used to be Trumps' personal attorney - a blatantly obvious conflict of interest. He could easily come out and say that she named a whole bunch of Dems and swears on her life that Trump isn't on any list and is as innocent as Mother Theresa and no one would be able to say otherwise because Trump will offer to pardon her in exchange for her signing a NDA. Then again, when has Trump ever worried about conflicts of interest? Never.
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Reply #16 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:58am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:38am:
Newsmax is painting her as a victim now.



Everyone is thinking that she might come out and name Trump, but I think what's more likely is that she'll name a bunch of Democrats, maybe toss in a few billionaires and royalty, she'll say Trump did nothing wrong, MAGA will be stupid enough to praise her AND Trump for taking down the pedos and Trump then pardons her for "Telling the truth".

Is MAGA stupid enough to fall for it?

The state media is laying the groundwork.


Oh, they're stupid enough alright.

Unfortunately, I think that's what will happen - she'll shut up about Trump (once threatened) and in return he'll have the conviction quashed.

Another criminal will get away with their crimes, thanks to the convicted felon in the White House, and Frannie, aquascoot, Bobbi et al. will applaud the corrupt undermining of justice in the US.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 6:15am:
Big Donger wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 2:47am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
Yep - she'll get a pardon if she dumps Clinton in the poo

and wipes the slate clean for the big guy.   Wink


Ah, so you know.

Next you'll say, but of course. They're all as bad as each other, no?

So tell me this. Which other prez has ever pardoned somebody for going under oath and lying about their involvement in an elite paedophile ring?

Over to you.




But the big guy is innocent.




Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we know how it works, Bobby.

You pester Uncle to invade Iraq and kill Muslims, you then complain about endless wars.

You spend five years ranting about Epstein, you then say all good, nothing to see here.

You, Bobby, are what the hommers call a potato. They lie face down on the table, often masked, bottom lubed and ready to go.

Many have esteemed positions - judges, politicians, senior public servants. After a hard day's work, they only want one thing: to be rogered.

You?
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Big Donger wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 9:41am:
Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we know how it works, Bobby.

You pester Uncle to invade Iraq and kill Muslims, you then complain about endless wars.

You spend five years ranting about Epstein, you then say all good, nothing to see here.

You, Bobby, are what the hommers call a potato. They lie face down on the table, often masked, bottom lubed and ready to go.

Many have esteemed positions - judges, politicians, senior public servants. After a hard day's work, they only want one thing: to be rogered.

You?



Karnal,
Why do you always look at every situation with a homosexual connotation?

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Reply #19 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:40am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Big Donger wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 9:41am:
Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we know how it works, Bobby.

You pester Uncle to invade Iraq and kill Muslims, you then complain about endless wars.

You spend five years ranting about Epstein, you then say all good, nothing to see here.

You, Bobby, are what the hommers call a potato. They lie face down on the table, often masked, bottom lubed and ready to go.

Many have esteemed positions - judges, politicians, senior public servants. After a hard day's work, they only want one thing: to be rogered.

You?



Karnal,
Why do you always look at every situation with a homosexual connotation?

forgiven

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I think people are just matching your energy.
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SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:40am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Karnal,
Why do you always look at every situation with a homosexual connotation?

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I think people are just matching your energy.



Nahhh - Karnal is just a poofter.

Not that .....   Embarrassed
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SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:40am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Big Donger wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 9:41am:
Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we know how it works, Bobby.

You pester Uncle to invade Iraq and kill Muslims, you then complain about endless wars.

You spend five years ranting about Epstein, you then say all good, nothing to see here.

You, Bobby, are what the hommers call a potato. They lie face down on the table, often masked, bottom lubed and ready to go.

Many have esteemed positions - judges, politicians, senior public servants. After a hard day's work, they only want one thing: to be rogered.

You?



Karnal,
Why do you always look at every situation with a homosexual connotation?

forgiven

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I think people are just matching your energy.


Indeed.

Bobbi thinks that everything is intrinsically gay.

Masturbation - "Gay!"

Penises - "Gay!"

Oral sex - "Gay!"

Strangely, though, he keeps an assortment of photos of half-dressed, muscular men on his computer.

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Greggy - it's just that poofters like you always want to talk about sexual matters.   Embarrassed
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I'm genuinely surprised that hardly anyone is talking about Trumps' former personal attorney, who is now the Deputy A-G, is the one talking to Maxwell. No tape recording of those conversations. No other Dept. of Justice officials present. Just his former attorney and Maxwell. If this doesn't absolutely scream "conflict of interest" with a loudspeaker set to maximum, then I don't know what does.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 12:31pm:
I'm genuinely surprised that hardly anyone is talking about Trumps' former personal attorney, who is now the Deputy A-G, is the one talking to Maxwell. No tape recording of those conversations. No other Dept. of Justice officials present. Just his former attorney and Maxwell. If this doesn't absolutely scream "conflict of interest" with a loudspeaker set to maximum, then I don't know what does.


The corruption is just so deep that nobody is surprised by anything they do anymore.

Trump was 100% correct when he said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

He's a career criminal and as such everything he does is a crime - people are just used to it now.

It'll never stop, and he'll never be held accountable.

All we can do is wait until congestive heart failure does its job.

Melania, and the world, will be celebrating on that day.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 1:46pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 12:31pm:
I'm genuinely surprised that hardly anyone is talking about Trumps' former personal attorney, who is now the Deputy A-G, is the one talking to Maxwell. No tape recording of those conversations. No other Dept. of Justice officials present. Just his former attorney and Maxwell. If this doesn't absolutely scream "conflict of interest" with a loudspeaker set to maximum, then I don't know what does.


The corruption is just so deep that nobody is surprised by anything they do anymore.

Trump was 100% correct when he said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

He's a career criminal and as such everything he does is a crime - people are just used to it now.

It'll never stop, and he'll never be held accountable.

All we can do is wait until congestive heart failure does its job.

Melania, and the world, will be celebrating on that day.


I do hope that the next Democrat administration that comes in at the end of his current term will do everything it possibly can to not only hold him accountable but to punish him for his many, many crimes.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 2:12pm:
I do hope that the next Democrat administration that comes in at the end of his current term will do everything it possibly can to not only hold him accountable but to punish him for his many, many crimes.


Sweet FA they can do, the dems introduced what they call pre emptive pardons for politicians and their friends. Trump only needs to follow Bidens lead and he will pre emptively pardon himself and anyone connected to him.

Unless of course you think there is something wrong with pre emptive pardons, so do you think that he should or should not hand out pre emptive pardons when he leaves.
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Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 2:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 1:46pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 12:31pm:
I'm genuinely surprised that hardly anyone is talking about Trumps' former personal attorney, who is now the Deputy A-G, is the one talking to Maxwell. No tape recording of those conversations. No other Dept. of Justice officials present. Just his former attorney and Maxwell. If this doesn't absolutely scream "conflict of interest" with a loudspeaker set to maximum, then I don't know what does.


The corruption is just so deep that nobody is surprised by anything they do anymore.

Trump was 100% correct when he said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

He's a career criminal and as such everything he does is a crime - people are just used to it now.

It'll never stop, and he'll never be held accountable.

All we can do is wait until congestive heart failure does its job.

Melania, and the world, will be celebrating on that day.


I do hope that the next Democrat administration that comes in at the end of his current term will do everything it possibly can to not only hold him accountable but to punish him for his many, many crimes.


Sweet FA they can do, the dems introduced what they call pre emptive pardons for politicians and their friends. Trump only needs to follow Bidens lead and he will pre emptively pardon himself and anyone connected to him.

Unless of course you think there is something wrong with pre emptive pardons, so do you think that he should or should not hand out pre emptive pardons when he leaves.


The one and only reason Biden pardoned some people was because of repeated threats by Trump to weaponise the Department of Justice to go after members of the Biden administration who investigated him for various dodgy acts in his previous term. Biden did so in order to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the Trump administration in Court. Had he not done this, no pardons would’ve been required.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 3:24pm:
The one and only reason Biden pardoned some people was because of repeated threats by Trump to weaponise the Department of Justice to go after members of the Biden administration who investigated him for various dodgy acts in his previous term. Biden did so in order to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the Trump administration in Court. Had he not done this, no pardons would’ve been required.



They weren't frivolous charges - some of the charges were for treason.

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 3:29pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 3:24pm:
The one and only reason Biden pardoned some people was because of repeated threats by Trump to weaponise the Department of Justice to go after members of the Biden administration who investigated him for various dodgy acts in his previous term. Biden did so in order to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the Trump administration in Court. Had he not done this, no pardons would’ve been required.



They weren't frivolous charges - some of the charges were for treason.



Investigating the involvement of Trump in the events of J6 isn’t treason.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 3:54pm:
The one and only reason Biden pardoned some people was because of repeated threats by Trump to weaponise the Department of Justice to go after members of the Biden administration who investigated him for various dodgy acts in his previous term. Biden did so in order to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the Trump administration in Court. Had he not done this, no pardons would’ve been required.


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In the final minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden pre-emptively pardoned several family members, including his brothers James and Frank Biden, and sister Valerie Biden Owens.


Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.
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Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, a well-known Native American activist who was convicted of killing two FBI agents on the Pine Ridge Reservation
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Reply #33 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:00pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, a well-known Native American activist who was convicted of killing two FBI agents on the Pine Ridge Reservation


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Reply #34 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.
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Reply #35 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.
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Reply #36 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:07pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.


How?
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Reply #37 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:07pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.


How?


So now you think its OK to let a person convicted of killing two FBI agents to go home.
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Reply #38 - Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:22pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:07pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.


How?


So now you think its OK to let a person convicted of killing two FBI agents to go home.


Who said that, FD?

I'm curious.

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Reply #39 - Jul 28th, 2025 at 6:12am
 
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.


When did "mass" constitute two?
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I think it would be a wise move by Trump to pardon Maxwell.

The left will explode and spend the next six months melting down over it and Trump can get on with the important work of rebuilding America. Imagine how bizarre the TDS crowd would be even at the mention of it.
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Reply #42 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:40am
 
Leroy wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:37am:
I think it would be a wise move by Trump to pardon Maxwell.



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Leroy wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:37am:
I think it would be a wise move by Trump to pardon Maxwell.

The left will explode and spend the next six months melting down over it and Trump can get on with the important work of rebuilding America. Imagine how bizarre the TDS crowd would be even at the mention of it.

It won't just be 'the left' who will explode; his white-trash Appalachian base will go nuclear, there being a strong association with sexual abuse and Appalachia.
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Reply #44 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26am
 
Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

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Reply #45 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:30am
 
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Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.



What if it puts dozens of dirty pedophiles in jail?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:07pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 7:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Also why shouldn't Trump pardon his people from  to protect those people and save them unnecessary financial expense that may have come from having to defend frivolous charges made by the future Democrat administration in Court.



like the guy he pardoned who was in jail for assaulting police? Cheesy Cheesy


In the last minutes of his presidency, Joe Biden commuted the life sentence of Leonard Peltier, ...


... and has to serve the remainder of his sentence under home confinement.


Why are you defending a mass murderer, he killed two FBI agents and here you are defending him.


How?


So now you think its OK to let a person convicted of killing two FBI agents to go home.


Who said that, FD?

I'm curious.



Leroy, why does Greggery keep calling you FD?

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Reply #47 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:36am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:30am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26am:
Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.



What if it puts dozens of dirty pedophiles in jail?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?



What if it exposed your DL, Bobby? Would that be a good thing?
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Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.


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Trump's most reckless political and personal gamble by far would be the pardoning of Maxwell.

Given he's already on the wrong side of sexual morality, for which his white trash base has forgiven him, they will reverse course over a Maxwell pardon, and his past sexual improprieties will augment the disgust the pardoning will generate.

But then, he's a malignant narcissist, so...
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Trump's most reckless political and personal gamble by far would be the pardoning of Maxwell.

Given he's already on the wrong side of sexual morality, for which his white trash base has forgiven him, they will reverse course over a Maxwell pardon, and his past sexual improprieties will augment the disgust the pardoning will generate.

But then, he's a malignant narcissist, so...


his cultists won't care what he does
they never have in the past.
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It would be a colossal miscarriage of justice if Trump pardoned her to cover up his involvement in the Epstein files.
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Biden pardoned her one night 15 years ago, when she farted in the act, with him enjoying a 69 ice-cream 🍨🍦
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Reply #54 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:30am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26am:
Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.



What if it puts dozens of dirty pedophiles in jail?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?



If that's the trade-off, sure.  If it means everyone named in the Epstein files faces justice, sure.

But if it's being done to buy her silence and protect Trump from the consequences of his actions, no.

Any reasonable person would be suspect of Trump's motivation in doing this.

If the result of her pardon is one less child predator answer for their crimes, rather than more having their day in court, it's not a good deal.

But even then, I would not trade that for a full pardon.

She needs to remain in prison for her actions.

A more comfortable prison maybe, but she should not be fully pardoned even in excahnge for information.

Some crimes are unforgivable.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:28am:
It would be a colossal miscarriage of justice if Trump pardoned her to cover up his involvement in the Epstein files.


Indeed, but I predict that is exactly what will happen.

And then, a few months down the track, we'll probably hear of Maxwell's "suicide" on the outside.

Remember when Ivana "accidentally" fell down the stairs and died?

You know, the woman (one of dozens) who accused Trump of a violent rape and assault.
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Reply #56 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.

An Islamic center in St. Paul, Minnesota, wrote a letter on behalf of a Somali immigrant convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, asking a judge to consider its “heartfelt support” of the 42-year-old perpetrator when sentencing.

The letter, posted by Alpha News on X, was sent to Judge Michael E. Burns in the pre-sentencing phase after a jury convicted Qalinle Ibrahim Dirie, 42, of first-degree sexual conduct after he allegedly approached a young girl last June when she was playing in the backyard of her home.

...

The Al-Ihsan Islamic in St. Paul echoed the family members, writing that Dirie had “faced the challenge of starting over in a new culture,” expressed “love for his family and kids,” and even sent money back to Somalia to support family members there.

The letter concluded:

The situation [Dirie] is currently facing comes as a deep shock to all of us. It does not reflect the man we know — a man whose actions have consistently reflected family and community. We respectfully ask that this letter be considered as a sincere reflection of who Qalinle Dirie truly is. His contributions may not make headlines, but to us, he has made a positive difference.

Judge Burns’ sentence was the least amount of prison time recommended by Minnesota’s sentencing guidelines, according to Alpha News. He potentially could be released in 2033 and remain on probation for the rest of the sentence.
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Reply #57 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:36am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:30am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26am:
Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.



What if it puts dozens of dirty pedophiles in jail?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?



If that's the trade-off, sure.  If it means everyone named in the Epstein files faces justice, sure.

But if it's being done to buy her silence and protect Trump from the consequences of his actions, no.

Any reasonable person would be suspect of Trump's motivation in doing this.

If the result of her pardon is one less child predator answer for their crimes, rather than more having their day in court, it's not a good deal.

But even then, I would not trade that for a full pardon.

She needs to remain in prison for her actions.

A more comfortable prison maybe, but she should not be fully pardoned even in excahnge for information.

Some crimes are unforgivable.



Since Trump never went to Epstein's island it looks like he is innocent.

Deals for immunity happen every day in the USA so
that the FBI can go after the worst crooks - the Mr. Bigs.
Without eye witness accounts there is often no other way to get them.

Ghislaine would be putting her life in jeopardy to reveal who they are in court -
many such witnesses have been bumped off in the USA - or had "accidents".
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Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.

An Islamic center in St. Paul, Minnesota, wrote a letter on behalf of a Somali immigrant convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, asking a judge to consider its “heartfelt support” of the 42-year-old perpetrator when sentencing.

The letter, posted by Alpha News on X, was sent to Judge Michael E. Burns in the pre-sentencing phase after a jury convicted Qalinle Ibrahim Dirie, 42, of first-degree sexual conduct after he allegedly approached a young girl last June when she was playing in the backyard of her home.

[url]https://media.breitbart.com/media/2025/08/Qalinle-Ibrahim-Dirie-Henne
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The Al-Ihsan Islamic in St. Paul echoed the family members, writing that Dirie had “faced the challenge of starting over in a new culture,” expressed “love for his family and kids,” and even sent money back to Somalia to support family members there.

The letter concluded:

The situation [Dirie] is currently facing comes as a deep shock to all of us. It does not reflect the man we know — a man whose actions have consistently reflected family and community. We respectfully ask that this letter be considered as a sincere reflection of who Qalinle Dirie truly is. His contributions may not make headlines, but to us, he has made a positive difference.

Judge Burns’ sentence was the least amount of prison time recommended by Minnesota’s sentencing guidelines, according to Alpha News. He potentially could be released in 2033 and remain on probation for the rest of the sentence
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Ah.

"Other people do it, so it's okay to defend Trumpstein".

Stop defending rapists and paedophiles.
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Reply #59 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:38am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:36am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:30am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26am:
Anyone who thinks that pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker and facilitator of child rape to own the Libs simply is sickening.

But of course, it's coming from a loyalist Trump supporter.

No surprise there.  It checked out.



What if it puts dozens of dirty pedophiles in jail?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?



If that's the trade-off, sure.  If it means everyone named in the Epstein files faces justice, sure.

But if it's being done to buy her silence and protect Trump from the consequences of his actions, no.

Any reasonable person would be suspect of Trump's motivation in doing this.

If the result of her pardon is one less child predator answer for their crimes, rather than more having their day in court, it's not a good deal.

But even then, I would not trade that for a full pardon.

She needs to remain in prison for her actions.

A more comfortable prison maybe, but she should not be fully pardoned even in excahnge for information.

Some crimes are unforgivable.



Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


How could you possibly know that?
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Reply #60 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:40am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:38am:
How could you possibly know that?



We've been over this a dozen times -    Roll Eyes

Trump appeared on 7 flights on Epstein's jet airliner but never on a trip to his island.

Greggy,
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Since Trump never went to Epstein's island it looks like he is innocent.

Deals for immunity happen every day in the USA so
that the FBI can go after the worst crooks - the Mr. Bigs.
Without eye witness accounts there is often no other way to get them.

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Reply #62 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:59am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


How could you possibly know that?
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Reply #63 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:40am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:38am:
How could you possibly know that?



We've been over this a dozen times -    Roll Eyes

Trump appeared on 7 flights on Epstein's jet airliner but never on a trip to his island.



Has Trump ever been convicted of falsifying records?

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Reply #64 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


How could you possibly know that?



Jesus Christ -
how many times have I got to tell the morons here the same thing?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/explained-did-donald-trump-ever-fly...

Donald Trump’s name appears seven times in Jeffrey Epstein’s
flight logs from the 1990s.

There is no evidence Trump flew to Epstein’s private island.

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Reply #65 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


How could you possibly know that?



Jesus Christ -
how many times have I got to tell the morons here the same thing?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/explained-did-donald-trump-ever-fly...

Donald Trump’s name appears seven times in Jeffrey Epstein’s ..

There is no evidence Trump flew to Epstein’s private island.



Has Trump ever been convicted of falsifying records?

Was Epstein a convicted criminal too?
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Reply #66 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:14pm
 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-turned-down-invitation-epsteins-i...

"It's a hoax that's been built up way beyond proportion," Trump said,
saying Democrats controlled the Epstein files for several years and
would have used them against him during the last presidential election if there was anything in them.
Trump flew with Epstein aboard his plane at least six times,
according to logs for flights spanning from 1991 through 2005.
None of those trips were to Epstein's private island.
Trump has denied ever being on the plane and has not been accused of any wrongdoing.
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Reply #67 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:14pm:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-turned-down-invitation-epsteins-i...

"It's a hoax that's been built up way beyond proportion," Trump said,
saying Democrats controlled the Epstein files for several years and
would have used them against him during the last presidential election if there was anything in them.
Trump flew with Epstein aboard his plane at least six times,
according to logs for flights spanning from 1991 through 2005.
None of those trips were to Epstein's private island.
Trump has denied ever being on the plane and has not been accused of any wrongdoing.


Has Trump ever been convicted of falsifying records?

Was Epstein a convicted criminal too?
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Reply #68 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:18pm
 

Greggy is on a witch hunt.

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I cast the devil out of you - the power of Christ compels you:


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Reply #71 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 3:41pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 12:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


How could you possibly know that?



Jesus Christ -
how many times have I got to tell the morons here the same thing?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/explained-did-donald-trump-ever-fly...

[size=12]Donald Trump’s name appears seven times in Jeffrey Epstein’s
flight logs from the 1990s.




You do know that Trump not only has had his own planes, but also 3 helicopters and super yachts

he could travel to epstein island every weekend and you would never know
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Reply #72 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

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Reply #73 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island it looks like he is innocent.

Deals for immunity happen every day in the USA so
that the FBI can go after the worst crooks - the Mr. Bigs.
Without eye witness accounts there is often no other way to get them.

Ghislaine would be putting her life in jeopardy to reveal who they are in court -
many such witnesses have been bumped off in the USA - or had "accidents".


Your entire premise rests on the idea that the abuse only happened on Epstein's island, which is factually wrong and intellectually lazy.

Here are just some of the locations where abuse tied to Epstein has been documented or credibly alleged:

- Palm Beach, Florida
- Manhattan, New York
- Little St. James Island, US Virgin Islands ("The Island")
- Zorro Ranch, New Mexico
- Onboard Epstein's private jet ("Lolita Express")
- Paris, France (alleged)
- London, UK (alleged, including links to Ghislaine Maxwell)

So no, Trump not going to "the island" doesn't prove anything, and anyone clinging to that as proof of innocence is either desperate or being deliberately obtuse.

Trump had more than enough overlap with Epstein, both socially and geographically, to warrant suspicion, especially when combined with the things he's publicly said about young girls, his long-standing friendship with Epstein, and his bragging about how he could "get away with" sexual assault.

Surely even you, Bobby, can concede that there's enough smoke here to at least raise serious questions. Or is your defence of Trump now so blind that you're willing to rewrite reality to suit it?
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Reply #74 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island it looks like he is innocent.


No mention of an island here, Bobbi.

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Reply #75 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:22pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island it looks like he is innocent.

Deals for immunity happen every day in the USA so
that the FBI can go after the worst crooks - the Mr. Bigs.
Without eye witness accounts there is often no other way to get them.

Ghislaine would be putting her life in jeopardy to reveal who they are in court -
many such witnesses have been bumped off in the USA - or had "accidents".


Your entire premise rests on the idea that the abuse only happened on Epstein's island, which is factually wrong and intellectually lazy.

Here are just some of the locations where abuse tied to Epstein has been documented or credibly alleged:

- Palm Beach, Florida
- Manhattan, New York
- Little St. James Island, US Virgin Islands ("The Island")
- Zorro Ranch, New Mexico
- Onboard Epstein's private jet ("Lolita Express")
- Paris, France (alleged)
- London, UK (alleged, including links to Ghislaine Maxwell)

So no, Trump not going to "the island" doesn't prove anything, and anyone clinging to that as proof of innocence is either desperate or being deliberately obtuse.

Trump had more than enough overlap with Epstein, both socially and geographically, to warrant suspicion, especially when combined with the things he's publicly said about young girls, his long-standing friendship with Epstein, and his bragging about how he could "get away with" sexual assault.

Surely even you, Bobby, can concede that there's enough smoke here to at least raise serious questions. Or is your defence of Trump now so blind that you're willing to rewrite reality to suit it?



Greggy asked me a question so I told him. 
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:59am:
Since Trump never went to Epstein's island ...


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Reply #76 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:33pm
 
Cool story bro, but I replied to the comment of yours before he asked you that, my reply has nothing to do with him or his question.
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Reply #77 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:33pm:
Cool story bro, but I replied to the comment of yours before he asked you that, my reply has nothing to do with him or his question.



Just mentioning places that Trump could have visited is not evidence of anything -

not any more than someone who went to sin city Las Vegas and did coke and hookers.
You could ask Hunter about that.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #78 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm
 
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.
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Reply #79 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:07pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

Really?

Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.

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Reply #80 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:10pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.



You are the leader of a lynch mob that wants to hang Trump.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:33pm:
Cool story bro, but I replied to the comment of yours before he asked you that, my reply has nothing to do with him or his question.



Just mentioning places that Trump could have visited is not evidence of anything -



Trump's name supposedly not appearing on the Lolita Express flight log is not proof that "he is innocent", Bobbi.

Get back to your window.

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Reply #82 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:10pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.



You are the leader of a lynch mob that wants to hang Trump.    Roll Eyes


Defending child abusers Bobby? Just what is it you get up to in those public toilets?
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Reply #83 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:10pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.



You are the leader of a lynch mob that wants to hang Trump.    Roll Eyes


Defending child abusers Bobby? Just what is it you get up to in those public toilets?



Smith,
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 5:33pm:
Cool story bro, but I replied to the comment of yours before he asked you that, my reply has nothing to do with him or his question.



Just mentioning places that Trump could have visited is not evidence of anything -



Trump's name supposedly not appearing on the Lolita Express flight log is not proof that "he is innocent", Bobbi.

Get back to your window.

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Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:10pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.



You are the leader of a lynch mob that wants to hang Trump.    Roll Eyes


Defending child abusers Bobby? Just what is it you get up to in those public toilets?



Smith,
when you hang a man you better look at him:

mhQ[/media]


I'm not trying to hang you goober, I'm just asking a question.
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Reply #86 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:10pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Nobody said it was evidence, we're saying that his close ties to Epstein, the proximity to where the known abuse has happened, his campaigning on releasing the files and then once he finds out he's all over them he is threatening to start a war with Russia as a distraction, it might just be time to release the files, don't you think?

Let him clear his name, or, if what Epstein's brother has said is true, it's time for Trump to face the music.



You are the leader of a lynch mob that wants to hang Trump.    Roll Eyes


Defending child abusers Bobby? Just what is it you get up to in those public toilets?



Smith,
when you hang a man you better look at him:

mhQ[/media]


I'm not trying to hang you goober, I'm just asking a question.



But you wanna hang Trump.


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Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
But you wanna hang Trump.



are you saying you're Trump?
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John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
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are you saying you're Trump?



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Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
But you wanna hang Trump.


are you saying you're Trump?


So you wanna hang me?   Undecided


see, i told you that you were an idiot.
I already told you that i don't want to hang you. You then said 'but I want to hang trump'? what has that to do with hanging you unless you think you are trump Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
But you wanna hang Trump.


are you saying you're Trump?


So you wanna hang me?   Undecided


see, i told you that you were an idiot.
I already told you that i don't want to hang you. You then said 'but I want to hang trump'? what has that to do with hanging you unless you think you are trump Cheesy Cheesy



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Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
But you wanna hang Trump.


are you saying you're Trump?


So you wanna hang me?   Undecided


see, i told you that you were an idiot.
I already told you that i don't want to hang you. You then said 'but I want to hang trump'? what has that to do with hanging you unless you think you are trump Cheesy Cheesy



John,
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neither, I'm John

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John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
But you wanna hang Trump.


are you saying you're Trump?


So you wanna hang me?   Undecided


see, i told you that you were an idiot.
I already told you that i don't want to hang you. You then said 'but I want to hang trump'? what has that to do with hanging you unless you think you are trump Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #94 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:12pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

Really?

Yeah, really.


It's not much of a defence, Sad, but they can hardly say they don't support pedos, not now.

I must say, it's a pleasure to have the old boy come out and come clean with us like this. Yes, he will support paedophiles, and he'll support much more than that too.

The old boy is already on record supporting genocide in Gaza. He wants to see them all rounded up and killed. Anybody who facilitates this is all good by the old boy. Who cares if they're pedophiles?

So yes, all that tut tutting about Jeff Epstein was just for fun. The old boy loves a bit of high-minded, sanctimonious waffle. It puts his virtue on display, you see.

Now you know what this is really all about. The old boy supports DL because he thinks it'll kill the Muselman and the tinted races a little quicker.

As you know, all his huffing and puffing over endless wars was a ruse too. The old boy LOVES endless wars, he can't get enough of them.

Now, try not to act so surprised next time. At his prime, the old boy was one of the shiftiest, most deceitful and conniving members here. He's faded somewhat, but the instincts are still there.

Once the old boy, always the old boy, no?

Always absolutely never ever.
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Re: Will Ghislaine Maxwell get a pardon from Trump ?
Reply #95 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:26pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:12pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

Really?


Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.


It's not much of a defence, Sad, but they can hardly say they don't support pedos, not now.

I must say, it's a pleasure to have the old boy come out and come clean with us like this. Yes, he will support paedophiles, and he'll support much more than that too.

The old boy is already on record supporting genocide in Gaza. He wants to see them all rounded up and killed. Anybody who facilitates this is all good by the old boy. Who cares if they're pedophiles?

So yes, all that tut tutting about Jeff Epstein was just for fun. The old boy loves a bit of high-minded, sanctimonious waffle. It puts his virtue on display, you see.

Now you know what this is really all about. The old boy supports DL because he thinks it'll kill the Muselman and the tinted races a little quicker.

As you know, all his huffing and puffing over endless wars was a ruse too. The old boy LOVES endless wars, he can't get enough of them.

Now, try not to act so surprised next time. At his prime, the old boy was one of the shiftiest, most deceitful and conniving members here. He's faded somewhat, but the instincts are still there.

Once the old boy, always the old boy, no?

Always absolutely never ever.


Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.


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Re: Will Ghislaine Maxwell get a pardon from Trump ?
Reply #96 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:26pm:
Big Donger wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 9:12pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

Really?


Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.


It's not much of a defence, Sad, but they can hardly say they don't support pedos, not now.

I must say, it's a pleasure to have the old boy come out and come clean with us like this. Yes, he will support paedophiles, and he'll support much more than that too.

The old boy is already on record supporting genocide in Gaza. He wants to see them all rounded up and killed. Anybody who facilitates this is all good by the old boy. Who cares if they're pedophiles?

So yes, all that tut tutting about Jeff Epstein was just for fun. The old boy loves a bit of high-minded, sanctimonious waffle. It puts his virtue on display, you see.

Now you know what this is really all about. The old boy supports DL because he thinks it'll kill the Muselman and the tinted races a little quicker.

As you know, all his huffing and puffing over endless wars was a ruse too. The old boy LOVES endless wars, he can't get enough of them.

Now, try not to act so surprised next time. At his prime, the old boy was one of the shiftiest, most deceitful and conniving members here. He's faded somewhat, but the instincts are still there.

Once the old boy, always the old boy, no?

Always absolutely never ever.


Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.




Just so. First we have interfering in foreign courts as foreign policy.

Now we have pardoning sex traffickers and covering up child sex crimes as justified - for political reasons.

We will make America great again, no?
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Re: Will Ghislaine Maxwell get a pardon from Trump ?
Reply #97 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:18am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 7:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:08am:
Stop defending paedophiles.



Tell Muslims, too.


Your defence as to why you support and defend paedophiles is "but muslims"?

Frank...

Really?

Yeah, really. Don't be selective.  For political reasons.



You think you're going to have people here who will defend child abuse within systems of faith?

Perhaps I can't speak for everyone else, but Muslim, Catholic or Presidential, the abuse is unacceptable in all forms and whoever does it, whatever their faith or political leaning, should be held to account and face justice.

What excuse or distraction do you have ready next to take the spotlight off Trump?

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Stop defending paedophiles.
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