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Reply #15 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 11:53pm
 

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Why the Decrease in Autopsy Rates?


Rose’s findings raise a pressing question: Why were fewer autopsies performed when they were needed most? The study points to several contributing factors​:

1. Systematic discouragement of autopsies—During the COVID-19 pandemic, medical institutions actively discouraged autopsies, citing concerns about viral transmission. This reluctance appears to have extended into the vaccine era, despite the clear need for forensic clarity.
2. Gaps in VAERS reporting—While autopsies should be systematically recorded in VAERS for cases of post-vaccine mortality, many reports list only “death” with no additional details, limiting their forensic utility.
3. Institutional reluctance to probe vaccine-related fatalities—Given the scale and urgency of the vaccine rollout, regulatory agencies may have been hesitant to conduct widespread forensic investigations that could raise public concerns.

This failure to perform and record autopsies represents a significant void in our understanding of vaccine safety. Had systematic forensic investigations been conducted from the outset, we might have better characterized these risks and taken steps to prevent unnecessary deaths.


The Urgent Need for Systematic Autopsy Studies


Both studies reinforce the critical importance of post-mortem analysis in assessing vaccine safety. Given the documented cardiovascular risks associated with mRNA-based vaccines, the absence of widespread forensic investigations is particularly concerning. Evidence continues to emerge that spike protein toxicity, lipid nanoparticle biodistribution, and immune dysregulation may contribute to post-vaccine fatal outcomes​.

Historical precedent also demands a more proactive approach. Previous vaccines, including the 1976 swine flu vaccine (linked to Guillain-Barré Syndrome) and the 1998 Rotashield vaccine (linked to intussusception), were withdrawn in response to a fraction of the adverse event reports now associated with COVID-19 vaccination​.

The lack of forensic scrutiny surrounding COVID-19 vaccine-related deaths is anomalous and inconsistent with past safety practices.


Conclusions: A Scientific and Ethical Imperative


The findings from Hulscher et al. and Rose collectively underscore a critical need for reform in vaccine safety monitoring and forensic investigation. Moving forward, the following actions are called for:

1. Deaths in clinical trials should not be ruled out causally for first-in-human exposures.
2. Autopsies should be mandatory for all sudden, unexplained deaths post-vaccination.
3. A forensic review of VAERS autopsy data should be conducted to fill existing knowledge gaps.
4. Independent oversight bodies must be established to ensure transparency in vaccine safety investigations.

If we are to uphold scientific integrity and public trust, we must ensure that every post-vaccine death receives the level of scrutiny it warrants.

Science, Public Health Policy & the Law has provided a vital service in publishing these studies, which challenge prevailing narratives on vaccine safety. The question now is whether regulatory agencies and medical institutions will act on this evidence—or continue to look the other way.


References


Hulscher N, Alexander P E., Amerling R, Gessling H, Hodkinson R, Makis W et al. A Systematic Review Of Autopsy Findings In Deaths After COVID-19 Vaccination. Science, Public Health Policy and the Law. 2024 Nov 17; v5.2019-2024

Rose J. Reports Of Autopsies In VAERS And Associated Adverse Events Linked To Cause Of Death. Science, Public Health Policy and the Law. 2025 Feb 07; v6.2019-2025

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/the-autopsy-data-are-in-what-they-reveal-a...




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Re: Should kids get the coronavirus vaccine?
Reply #16 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:53am
 
At this point in time - anyone giving a baby/child a vaccine should be charged with Child Abuse …
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Re: Should kids get the coronavirus vaccine?
Reply #17 - Jun 22nd, 2025 at 6:33am
 
Yes, why is there no Covid vaccine for children in Australia?

https://x.com/psvbluemts/status/1928966202782892461

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Why no C19 vax for children in Australia? Last year, ACIP reported 58 deaths in infants ages less than a year, 44 deaths in children ages 1-4 years and 81 deaths in children ages 5-19 years.  50% of children hospitalised with COVID had no underlying health conditions.


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Good question.  WHY?    Is it the cost, or as I suspect, the continuing priority of dismissing Covid as a threat to anyone other than the elderly? The Govt are derelict in not informing the public of the long term dangers of Covid infection on any age group.


Yes, sure seems like it.

https://www.cdc.gov/acip/evidence-to-recommendations/covid-19-2024-2025-6-months...

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Children without underlying medical conditions continue to be hospitalized with COVID-19 and have severe outcomes. Out of all children with a COVID-19-associated hospitalization between July 2023 and March 2024, 50% had no underlying medical conditions; and, of those, 18% were admitted to the intensive care unit.

When comparing annual hospitalizations due to COVID-19 in the US pediatric population compared to other vaccine preventable diseases prior to their respective vaccine recommendations, there were higher rates of COVID-19 hospitalizations during 2022-2023 and 2023-2024.

Similarly, when comparing pediatric deaths per year in the United States due to COVID-19 compared to other vaccine preventable diseases prior to their respective vaccine recommendations, there were a higher number of deaths due to COVID-19 in 2023.


Oh, while I'm here - I was looking for this a while ago to use in another thread. A compilation of screenshots of some of the "promises" Anthony Albanese made about how he was going to deal with Covid if he was elected in the 2022 Federal election. All while criticising Scott Morrison, of course.

(Take special note of the "Parents deserve to know..." and "Kids can get sick from Covid..." posts).

Then, after winning the election he did (and continues to do)... absolutely nothing. Worthless lying piece of sh!t.
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Re: Should kids get the coronavirus vaccine?
Reply #18 - Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:29am
 
So you're going against the science?
The chief health officer says no but Carl knows better .

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Reply #19 - Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:17pm
 
I prefer my science to come from medical people who have no connection with (and don't have their strings pulled by) politicians.
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Reply #20 - Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:11pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:17pm:
I prefer my science to come from medical people who have no connection with (and don't have their strings pulled by) politicians.



But when those government scientists recommended lockdowns , you were fine with it.


So you like science that agrees with your bias and beliefs  Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:16pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:17pm:
I prefer my science to come from medical people who have no connection with (and don't have their strings pulled by) politicians.


I worked on a Medical research Institute for decades.

I believe the risk to reward ratio for children means a covid  vaccination for them is not recommended.
ie, kids usually recover from covid ok. It's still better for them to not get it.
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Reply #22 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 8:46am
 

Kids don't need to get the covid vaccine because Omicron doesn't cause severe illness in young children.  And children who are infected with Omicron tend to only get a mild illness anyway so do not need to be hospitalised.

Personally I will not have an mRNA vaccine.
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Reply #23 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 8:52am
 
Aquarius wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 8:46am:
Kids don't need to get the covid vaccine because Omicron doesn't cause severe illness in young children.  And children who are infected with Omicron tend to only get a mild illness anyway so do not need to be hospitalised.

Personally I will not have an mRNA vaccine. 


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1749984214/17#17

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Children without underlying medical conditions continue to be hospitalized with COVID-19 and have severe outcomes. Out of all children with a COVID-19-associated hospitalization between July 2023 and March 2024, 50% had no underlying medical conditions; and, of those, 18% were admitted to the intensive care unit.


This is in the US but it also applies to Australia and everywhere else in the world.

And, mRNA vaccines are safe - despite what the antivaxxers say.

https://www.globalvaccinedatanetwork.org/news/how_mrna_vaccines_are_made_why_the...
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Reply #24 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 5:07pm
 
Please don't go against the science and advise childhood covid vaccination.

Much smarter people then you have advised against it
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Reply #25 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 7:26pm
 
Last thing a kid needs is to feel punctured by Lefties.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #26 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 7:52pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Last thing a kid needs is to feel punctured by Lefties.



If the left aren't injected them with Pfizer's ineffective rubbish, they are injecting them with puberty blockers
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Reply #27 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:19pm
 
Why is there so much "drama" about kids getting a Covid vaccination?

But, I never see or have seen any such "drama" about this:

Childhood immunisation schedule

A series of free vaccinations is available for children aged 0 to 4 years to protect them against serious diseases

Even influenza is in the schedule.

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?...
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Reply #28 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:37pm
 
Cold and Flu are good for you.
They build your immune system up 'naturally'.
Short term pain, long term gain.

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Reply #29 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:44pm
 
Maybe not, Jas.

CDC: 13% of kids who died from flu this year had brain damage

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Today in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) say that 13% of children who have died from seasonal flu this season had influenza-associated encephalopathy or encephalitis (IAE), a severe neurologic complication.

Included in these cases are four patients who had acute necrotizing encephalopathy (ANE), the most severe form of IAE, which can lead to varying degrees of brain dysfunction, inflammation, and other neurologic problems.

The data come from the Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality Surveillance System, which has tracked kids' flu deaths since 2004. Encephalitis is swelling of the brain, while encephalopathy is a more general term for brain dysfunction that is not primarily an inflammatory condition.


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How the Flu Virus Invades the Brain

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Summary: Researchers uncovered how the influenza virus may infiltrate the brain, leading to a serious condition known as influenza-associated encephalopathy (IAE). The study identifies endothelial cells, which form the blood-brain barrier, as the primary entry points for the virus.

The team found that traditional antivirals that block viral replication were ineffective against this mode of invasion, but those that inhibit viral protein synthesis showed promise in reducing symptoms and mortality in a mouse model. This breakthrough offers potential new treatment avenues for IAE and similar viral encephalopathies.


Well, well... it isn't just Covid that can cause brain fog damage.

As I've said before... if governments thought they had the slightest chance of getting away with making (almost) everyone believe the flu has "gone away" (like they've done with Covid) I'm sure they would be right onto it.
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