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Cashless Debit Card Debate Reignites (Read 823 times)
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Reply #15 - Jul 12th, 2024 at 9:16am
 
MattE wrote on Jul 11th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Carl D wrote on Jul 10th, 2024 at 6:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 10th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Cashless welfare was for the unemployed.


Yes.

To start with.

But, knowing governments the way I (and many other people) do, I am absolutely certain it would eventually be 'expanded' to include everyone who gets any sort of payment from Centrelink, including age pensioners.


I think you're wrong.

It was never intended for people on payments like the aged pension. I very much doubt the government would ever introduce it for payments like the aged pension. That would cost them a lot of votes (those on the aged pension and even non-aged pensioners).

For people of working age who should be working, and aren't engaged in some other legitimate pursuit (e.g. study, an apprenticeship etc.), they should get a cashless debit card, including and especially those on a single parent pension.

I don't pay taxes for these people to go out using it for alcohol, cigarettes or gambling.

It works exactly the same as any other debit card. It will simply decline at merchants which are prohibited, such as bottle shops, pubs etc.



Why not for the aged pension, is it is as low-impact as you claim?
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Reply #16 - Jul 12th, 2024 at 2:21pm
 
Not everyone wants a cashless society.  There are many people that don't.  As for the cashless welfare card, I think labor has the right idea.  Cashless welfare for the unemployed, but only for those that want it.  In other words, make it voluntary as labor has done.  Well done labor you got this one right.   Sad         
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Reply #17 - Jul 12th, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 2:21pm:
In other words, make it voluntary as labor has done.



How about except for those in a violent relationship? Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Jul 12th, 2024 at 4:20pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Jul 12th, 2024 at 2:21pm:
Not everyone wants a cashless society.  There are many people that don't.


Indeed.

I've just received our latest gas bill and I've signed into my online account with the energy provider and tried to pay it with my Australia Post prepaid Mastercard which I've used to pay this bill (and others) for several years.

Now I'm getting a "bank has declined payment" message when I try to pay it... and I've tried about half a dozen times since yesterday. And, yes... there is WAY more than enough money on the card to cover the bill.

Well, it looks like I'll be off to the local Post Office in the morning to pay the bill with cash.

And, no - I do not want to set up direct debit from my bank account, thank you very much (I'll probably get another email next week from the energy provider recommending direct debit like they've done after I've paid previous bills).
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