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Reply #615 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:49am
 
carl

i have to agree with you

we have gone from state permiers spending the entirety of their midday 1 hr press conferences doing nothing but covid stats   , to then not even wanting to say the word.

we had a tiny outbreak of measles (2 cases) and the nightly news ran it but not a mention of covid.

something very very fishy is going on.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #616 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:31pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:49am:
carl

i have to agree with you

we have gone from state permiers spending the entirety of their midday 1 hr press conferences doing nothing but covid stats   , to then not even wanting to say the word.

we had a tiny outbreak of measles (2 cases) and the nightly news ran it but not a mention of covid.

something very very fishy is going on.



Yes indeed.

As I've said a few times - in my opinion the total 'radio silence' from our pollies about Covid nowadays is probably due to the fact that for them to at least acknowledge the ongoing death toll (not to mention health issues like Long Covid) would be an admission on their part that their "vaccines only and let it rip" approach has failed.

And they cannot honestly say that they didn't know this would happen after they (presumably) watched and saw the same approach fail in places like the US and the UK before they tried it here in Australia.

And, as I've said before - I'm also sure the pollies have had legal advice from someone like the Solicitor General to say nothing about Covid anymore in an attempt to avoid liability which would no doubt result in class action lawsuits (which I have no doubt are on the way but the pollies and others responsible for the Covid disaster are hoping to delay them for as long as possible).

But, the walls are slowly starting to close in on them... I only hope I'm still around to see them all eventually get what they deserve.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #617 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 10:41am
 
It's a bit embarrassing to think that the only thing our useless Federal Health Minister has done is 'rebrand' the Medicare Card.

Oh, and do stupid Elvis impersonations. "Wannabe star".  Roll Eyes

Commemorating 40 years of Medicare

The Australian Government is releasing a special edition Medicare card in 2024 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of Australia’s world class universal health insurance scheme.

Let's see what a few people have to say about that, shall we?

https://twstalker.com/AlanBixter/status/1751891002066087945

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“When I was health minister in the middle of a pandemic where over 30,000 Australians have died and the thousands more have long covid, my true accomplishment is I rebranded the Medicare card” @Mark_Butler_MP How embarrassing.


Yes indeed.

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@NobodyImpawtant @Mark_Butler_MP Given that this is the first piece of work he has done since being made Minister of Health, it far worse than embarrassing.


Yes. Yes it is.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #618 - Feb 10th, 2024 at 10:59am
 
Just a quick update... yes, people are still dying and being disabled by Covid in Australia, especially in aged care. Over 100 Covid deaths in aged care in Australia now since the start of this year.

Disgraceful. And not a single word from the pollies, as usual.

Evidence is also starting to emerge of Covid causing damage to unborn babies while they're still in the womb.

I'll update all of this when I get a bit more time (assuming anyone cares, of course). I've been a bit busy this past week and haven't had time to post.
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Reply #619 - Feb 10th, 2024 at 1:07pm
 
Carl, please ask FD to make you Mod of this board!
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Get the vaxx! 💉💉

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #620 - Feb 10th, 2024 at 5:54pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 10th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
Carl, please ask FD to make you Mod of this board!


Ahhhh... no.

Meanwhile...

Tell us how you REALLY feel about NSW "Health", Tricia.

(And I'm sure the same applies to the rest of the States and Territories)

Because the above link may not work (you may get a "Instance has been rate limited" error) due to Space Karen's ongoing destruction of Twitter/X by stopping anyone without an account from viewing posts, here's a screenshot:

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #621 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 6:09am
 
starting to get some traction in the UK


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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #622 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 10:51am
 
Yes indeed.

Too many patients are catching COVID in Australian hospitals, doctors say. So why are hospitals rolling back precautions?

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Steve Irons' older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.

But a patient in the room next door to Jim's had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. "After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him," says Steve, who'd flown up from Tasmania. "I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him."

And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. "For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death," Steve says. "It didn't have to happen that way. If they'd had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now."


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Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they've been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.

Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals' failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is "just a cold".


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Of course, evidence clearly shows COVID is nothing like a cold, particularly for hospital patients who are at higher risk of severe illness and death. Shocking data released under Freedom of Information laws last year revealed 5,614 people were suspected to have caught COVID in Victorian public hospitals between 2020 and April 2023, with more than one in 10 confirmed or suspected to have died as a result of their infection. In Queensland, similar data shows an average of 13 people caught COVID in hospital every day in the 18 months to June last year, with one patient dying every two days.


Can't wait for the class action lawsuits to start - if they haven't already.
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Reply #623 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 11:48am
 
covid is everywhere carl

you can run (or cower) but you cant hide .

well you can if you want to be a hermit i suppose but is that really living?
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Reply #624 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 12:26pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 11:48am:
covid is everywhere carl

you can run (or cower) but you cant hide .

well you can if you want to be a hermit i suppose but is that really living?


Indeed.

Doesn't really have anything to do with what I've posted though, does it?

It was about people catching Covid in hospitals and other healthcare settings and many of them dying. 1 in 10 Covid HAI's - (Hospital Acquired Infections) in Victoria resulted in deaths and I suspect the rest of the States are about the same because it seems that doctors, nurses and staff don't want to wear masks and hospitals don't want to pay for them.
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Reply #625 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:26pm
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 10:51am:


They're rolling back precautions so that the frail and elderly die quicker by catching COVID.

It may seem cynical, but that's exactly what they're doing.

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems and thus are a burden on the health system.

By allowing them to easily catch COVID (and die quickly) it frees up hospital beds for younger people who have jobs and pay taxes.

It's very sad, but also very true.

The government wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.
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Reply #626 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:27pm
 
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Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.


always were bro
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Reply #627 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:32pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
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Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.


always were bro


Not always.

The earlier strains were more lethal to the young - kids were dying from COVID.

That's rare now.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.

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Reply #628 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:32pm:
JC Denton wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
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Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.


always were bro


Not always.

The earlier strains were more lethal to the young - kids were dying from COVID.

That's rare now.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.



no lol

they were always waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lethal to old people than young people, unless youre saying that the older strains were a bit more lethal to the young than newer ones are, not saying that the older strains were in absolute terms more deadly to young ppl than older people

death rate always looked about like this, even in april 2020

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when you subtract obese people, it gets even less deadly for everyone
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Reply #629 - Feb 11th, 2024 at 3:47pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:32pm:
JC Denton wrote on Feb 11th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
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Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.


always were bro


Not always.

The earlier strains were more lethal to the young - kids were dying from COVID.

That's rare now.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.



no lol

they were always waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lethal to old people than young people, unless youre saying that the older strains were a bit more lethal to the young than newer ones are, not saying that the older strains were in absolute terms more deadly to young ppl than older people

death rate always looked about like this, even in april 2020

https://i.imgur.com/ogGBlZX.jpeg

when you subtract obese people, it gets even less deadly for everyone


You're completely missing the point.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that COVID has never killed a child.  It has never killed a healthy person.  It has never killed anyone under 90 years of age. It has never .... fill in the blanks.  You are 100% right, and are the true master of the universe.  There, now we can move on.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.

It benefits them, and thus they encourage it.


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