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Sep 2nd, 2022 at 4:40pm
 
Permanent migration cap lifted to 195,000

An additional 35,000 skilled migrants will be able to call Australia home in this financial year, after Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neill confirmed the annual permanent migration target would increase from 160,000 to 195,000.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/permanent-migration-cap-lifted-to-195000...




AI technology is forecast to replace as much as half of the work that is done today by 2030.


A 2019 McKinsey & Co report on automation in Australia laid out just how quickly industries are set to change.

The authors said by 2030 as many as 5 million Australians may need to change their occupation because of automation, with WA's East Pilbara, Penrith in western Sydney, Mackay in Queensland, West Coast in Tasmania and Port Pirie north of Adelaide among the most exposed local government areas.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-28/artificial-intelligence-policy-australia-...




Investing in Australians’ education is far more important than immigration
in resolving the nation’s skills shortages, according to leading economists surveyed in the lead-up to this week’s jobs and skills summit.

The 50 top Australian economists polled by the Economic Society of Australia and The Conversation are recognised by their peers as leaders in their fields, including economic modelling, labour markets and public policy.

Asked to select from a list of topics to be discussed at the summit, and which offered the most promise of delivering better outcomes, two-thirds picked “education and skills”. Only one-third picked “migration policy”.
https://theconversation.com/is-education-or-immigration-the-answer-to-our-skills...

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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2022 at 5:09pm
 


Elon Musk is hoping to establish a colony on Mars.....
......probably because he knows, that there isn't very much intelligent life on this planet.         Tongue



Most of the human beings on this planet are insane [irrational], imo.   [i.e. most of them are happy to tolerate LAWLESSNESS.]

It must be The End Times bobby ?



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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2022 at 11:25pm
 
The Libs and Labs are running on artificial intelligence, that's all they've got left ... they need life-support

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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:03am
 
Have to agree with Frank here... educating our own is far more important than bringing in 'dilutees' with half the skills to fill the gaps artificially created.

I ask again - why are there so many nursing graduates who cannot get a job with NSW Health while they bring in Outlanders with 'skills'?

Why are universities permitted to bring in full fee paying Outlanders to study top grade disciplines to the detriment of local talent that often cannot afford the tuition?

Governments here have zero problem with establishing quotas for all those they love to love - what about quotas for our very own first?
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Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:04am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2022 at 11:25pm:
The Libs and Labs are running on artificial intelligence, that's all they've got left ... they need life-support



Or a good hanging....
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 10:56am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:03am:
Have to agree with Frank here... educating our own is far more important than bringing in 'dilutees' with half the skills to fill the gaps artificially created.

I ask again - why are there so many nursing graduates who cannot get a job with NSW Health while they bring in Outlanders with 'skills'?

Why are universities permitted to bring in full fee paying Outlanders to study top grade disciplines to the detriment of local talent that often cannot afford the tuition?

Governments here have zero problem with establishing quotas for all those they love to love - what about quotas for our very own first?



Blair in the UK, then Gillard here, wanted most young people to go to uni.
But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two.

Most generalist degrees are barely more demanding than matriculation was 60 years ago. And a lot of the office jobs they qualify you for will disappear due to automation and AI.

International students are a migration stream for low skill jobs as most of them cannot be employed in the fields  they have a degree in.


The latest Graduate Outcomes Survey (GOS) supports these findings, showing that only 41.6% of international graduates living in Australia were employed full-time in 2021, versus 68.9% of domestic student graduates. The median full-time salary of international graduates was also only $54,300 in 2021, well below the $65,000 median full-time salary of domestic graduates.

The deleterious impacts on younger Australians entering the labour market were never considered, nor the erosion of pedagogical standards that arose from the explosion in international student numbers.

Before COVID hit, Australia had by far the highest concentration of international students in the world at around 3 times the concentration as the United Kingdom’s and Canada’s, and six times the United Sates’.

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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:03am
 

Total job vacancies in Australia number around 480,100.

Unemployed (looking for work) participants number around 473,600.

Does the government not see a logical solution in order to bring both numbers closer to zero?     Angry


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But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?




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Reply #8 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
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But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?







They are not even the lowest. 
https://www.courseseeker.edu.au/courses

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Well the projected immigration (let's not quibble) of 200,000 p.a. will increase demand on housing thus raising the profitability of the banks and all the vultures in the negative gearing business.... will continue to put pressure on jobs and on incomes derived from jobs.... will continue to split our society and culture into more and more groups, which process will be exacerbated by stupid governments persisting with affirmative action etc ..... and will eventually produce a disaster of major proportions once things go bad....

Australia needs to determine what it is in reality - apart from the dumping ground for every rat racer social science idea.  I notice that AlboCorp is always surrounded by mostly Whartes and a few  - very few - others.

Clearly there is no intention that excessive and wrongfully advertised immigration and all its pending disasters for the many will not be shared by them in their ivory tower...... same as their opposition....
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AusGeoff wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:03am:
Total job vacancies in Australia number around 480,100.

Unemployed (looking for work) participants number around 473,600.

Does the government not see a logical solution in order to bring both numbers closer to zero?     Angry





Herd all the unemployed into the jobs zones and put them up in a tent city?  Round up all the Remotigenes and and put their shoulder to the wheel?

Who's going to travel 1000 km for a part time casual gig, find somewhere to live at prohibitive expense, and just rely on a miniscule income to get enough to live on in times of great uncertainty?
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Thus spake Artificial Intelligence...


When Whitey, via its superior technology, discovers through genetics and ancestry research of the global Genomes that it is nothing but a 'mutant' offshoot of the Darkie family tree that began in a tiny corner of the world called Europe upon a world covered with Darkies...

In the future, DNA will recognise the superior combination of darkie males mating with whitey females and thus produce in children the majority of males being born 'darkie' and the females being born 'whitey'.
Which is why Whitey males have to wear 'Black' to get married. Grin To appear more 'masculine'.
...in the past, the Whitey felt superior in a tiny spot called Europe over the rest of the world covered in 'primitive' darkies.
...in the future, the 'recycled' darkies called Whities will become the dominant mass production race while the new minority of Darkies will rule from South America with superior technology which the Whities forfeited in order to populate the rest of the world from a minority position.

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White is the feminine colour.

Face it Grapps. You're just a latent Trans woman in man's clothes.  Cheesy
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You'd better lay off the sauce, handsome.... you're beginning to need a band around your hat that says - Caution - Loose Edges...
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If large scale immigration - importing the population of Townsville EVERY year - is the answer then an awful lot of things, like education, regions, productivity etc are done wrong.



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Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:25pm:
If large scale immigration - importing the population of Townsville EVERY year - is the answer then an awful lot of things, like education, regions, productivity etc are done wrong.






If there were a series of genuine projects going ahead that developed long term jobs and infrastructure for the many and these were accelerating daily and needed workers etc, all would be good.  As it is, most of these new people will find it hard to get jobs or will be cutting out local talent by being placed as 'dilutees' into vital jobs such as nursing and even medicine

I believe I've told you in the past - foreign trained doctors had to undergo a twelve month remedial course here before being allowed to practice - now they waltz straight in - and let me tell you - some of them are bricks.  My GP is a gem - in the room next door is a chap who has zero idea of anything - yet is an Indian trained doctor.  A real worry, since money is often the way forward through such courses, and we all know that local talent is shoved aside  to cater to full fee paying students from Offshoria and Wayoutland.

I must say again - with all the graduates in nursing, why is there this desperate need for more and more immigrant nurses?

https://www.intercheck.com.au/blog/find-first-nursing-job/

If that link is true, WTF is going on here when the health system is crying out for more staff to take the pressure off and give a better nurse to patient ratio?  Can there be a deliberate policy to disempower, disenfranchise our own so as to bring in Offshorites?

Why would any government do that?  To become part of some mythical 'global village' in which all are 'equal' and some of those you just equalised will savage you at the drop of a hat like dogs rescued from an abusive and violent environment?

Sinn Fein, Brothers and Sisters - we need politicians with real balls and you won't find them with your Albos, Parrot's Tits, Voldemorts, Barnabys, Tanyas, Gladys, Bandicoots and so forth.... all just time servers and some of the greatest con persons ever born, taking the Queen's best shilling and living off the fattest in the land (comment courtesy of a Digger on his way to a Pacific campaign in WW II) without a moment of remorse but with an absolute sense of Entitlement™.

'Nice Guy' Albanese - the smile on the face of the tiger.... never smile at a crococile .... at least Bandicoot and some of his hench-persons have the decency to have crazy eyes.... for advertising's sake.
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A couple of things worry me about this job summit.  Firstly, regardless of Albo requesting participants put aside personal agendas and look at new solutions and thinking outside the box, it just seemed to boil down to more pay, free training, and all the old chestnuts that get dragged out whenever these talkfests take place.   We never get a costing for any of this - bringing an extra 40,000 of skilled and unskilled people into Australia is going to cost a lot of money - does the return of investment of this outweigh the cost of the program?    Of that 40,000, how many will be the stay at home party and how many will actually work and solve our problems?   What sort of taxpayer funds are going to the Twiggys, Ginas, Clives etc to bring these workers in?   

The thing that is never explored is that there is a huge pool of unemployed somewhere, and a huge amount of unfilled jobs somewhere else - the two neveer seem to overlap!    Has the Government thought about what sort of contributions it would need to put in place to get those unemployed to jobs - rather than bringing in more people from overseas?  How are these these immigrants going to be convinced to go where the jobs are - even if the location is in the middle of the Aussie desert!   We are just going to end up with another swag of people wanting to live on the coasts and in the major cities.

Let's look at giving our pool of unemployed some form of financial or other incentives to overcome from within before we give that money to the Ginas and Twiggys to pay lower wages and pocket the rest
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Vic wrote on Sep 4th, 2022 at 6:24pm:
A couple of things worry me about this job summit.  Firstly, regardless of Albo requesting participants put aside personal agendas and look at new solutions and thinking outside the box, it just seemed to boil down to more pay, free training, and all the old chestnuts that get dragged out whenever these talkfests take place.   We never get a costing for any of this - bringing an extra 40,000 of skilled and unskilled people into Australia is going to cost a lot of money - does the return of investment of this outweigh the cost of the program?    Of that 40,000, how many will be the stay at home party and how many will actually work and solve our problems?   What sort of taxpayer funds are going to the Twiggys, Ginas, Clives etc to bring these workers in?   

The thing that is never explored is that there is a huge pool of unemployed somewhere, and a huge amount of unfilled jobs somewhere else - the two neveer seem to overlap!    Has the Government thought about what sort of contributions it would need to put in place to get those unemployed to jobs - rather than bringing in more people from overseas?  How are these these immigrants going to be convinced to go where the jobs are - even if the location is in the middle of the Aussie desert!   We are just going to end up with another swag of people wanting to live on the coasts and in the major cities.

Let's look at giving our pool of unemployed some form of financial or other incentives to overcome from within before we give that money to the Ginas and Twiggys to pay lower wages and pocket the rest


And where do we house them? Another 40,000 on top of the 135,000 we already import every year. Do we even build that many houses in a year?
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Reply #17 - Sep 4th, 2022 at 11:17pm
 
The problems goes far beyond just immigration to fill in the job and skill shortages.  We need to look at the reason why there is job and skill shortage in the first place. 

Our previous governments, especially the liberal government have abandoned tertiary education in this country.  They closed down vocational education all over the country, reduced university funding, increased HECs debts.  At the same time, channelling money without proper regulation into 'private' institutions - to a stage where, people are getting 'degrees' that is not recognized anywhere. 

The privatization of our important industries like electricity, water, gas and telecommunication, meant the private companies would not bother to train our younger generation through apprenticeships without government hand outs.  Instead lobbying the politician to increase 'skilled' migration.  Another attack at young people of today.

Then there is systematic favouring of property investments - like negative gearing and capital gains concession.  Not only it artificially inflates property prices beyond reaches of many locally born Australians, it also created an adversarial environment for small business through higher rent and higher interest rates.   A few years ago, I went to the bank.  I wanted a loan for a small business idea.  And the banks would only lend me 100k for the idea.   However, at the end of the meeting, they were happy to offer me a loan of 800k to buy an investment property.   This is madness!  (Well... I bought an investment property instead....I know... my bad...)

Then adding to all this, an ageing demographic of Australia.  The rest is history.   Of the 200k migrants that they projected, will probably just barely scratch the surface.  In the aged care sector alone, there is a shortage of 35k right now.  With more than 110k anticipated in the next few years.  It is a crisis.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Well the projected immigration (let's not quibble) of 200,000 p.a. will increase demand on housing thus raising the profitability of the banks and all the vultures in the negative gearing business.... will continue to put pressure on jobs and on incomes derived from jobs.... will continue to split our society and culture into more and more groups, which process will be exacerbated by stupid governments persisting with affirmative action etc ..... and will eventually produce a disaster of major proportions once things go bad....

Australia needs to determine what it is in reality - apart from the dumping ground for every rat racer social science idea.  I notice that AlboCorp is always surrounded by mostly Whartes and a few  - very few - others.

Clearly there is no intention that excessive and wrongfully advertised immigration and all its pending disasters for the many will not be shared by them in their ivory tower...... same as their opposition....

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Setanta wrote on Sep 4th, 2022 at 9:53pm:
Vic wrote on Sep 4th, 2022 at 6:24pm:
A couple of things worry me about this job summit.  Firstly, regardless of Albo requesting participants put aside personal agendas and look at new solutions and thinking outside the box, it just seemed to boil down to more pay, free training, and all the old chestnuts that get dragged out whenever these talkfests take place.   We never get a costing for any of this - bringing an extra 40,000 of skilled and unskilled people into Australia is going to cost a lot of money - does the return of investment of this outweigh the cost of the program?    Of that 40,000, how many will be the stay at home party and how many will actually work and solve our problems?   What sort of taxpayer funds are going to the Twiggys, Ginas, Clives etc to bring these workers in?   

The thing that is never explored is that there is a huge pool of unemployed somewhere, and a huge amount of unfilled jobs somewhere else - the two neveer seem to overlap!    Has the Government thought about what sort of contributions it would need to put in place to get those unemployed to jobs - rather than bringing in more people from overseas?  How are these these immigrants going to be convinced to go where the jobs are - even if the location is in the middle of the Aussie desert!   We are just going to end up with another swag of people wanting to live on the coasts and in the major cities.

Let's look at giving our pool of unemployed some form of financial or other incentives to overcome from within before we give that money to the Ginas and Twiggys to pay lower wages and pocket the rest


And where do we house them? Another 40,000 on top of the 135,000 we already import every year. Do we even build that many houses in a year?


Already addressed that one... and a few other things...

Nice to see you back.  Floods finished or just a recess?
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Rejected asylum seekers staying 'not right': O'Neil


Home Affairs Minister Clare O'Neil says allowing asylum seekers who have been rejected by immigration to remain in Australia is "not the right solution", despite thousands continuing to live and work in the country undocumented.

Ms O'Neil's National Press Club address on Thursday put a spotlight on the number of undocumented people living and working in Australia after she blasted the former government for passing almost one million unprocessed visas over to Labor.

Questioned by RN Breakfast as to what the government's plan is to address the 70,000 people working illegally in Australia, Ms O'Neil said awarding them permanent residency was not on the agenda.
"I don't think that's the right solution for this group of people," she said.

Ms O'Neil said the former government had left immigration in "an absolute mess", arguing that Australia has "actively avoided" dealing with the issue.

"We’ve got something we’ve actively avoided as a country, which is a group of undocumented workers who are vulnerable to exploitation," she said.

"We're not a country where you can just arrive without any reason to be here and stay permanently."

"If people are not refugees they're not owed permanent protection, we do need to provide a pathway for them to go back home."

Ms O'Neil said she was "very worried" about undocumented workers having an effect on wages, saying she is "pretty bloody annoyed" at the former government.

"Peter Dutton, while he was immigrration minister, who spent all his time striding around the country telling us what a tough guy he was on borders, and all the while, under his nose, this has been described as the biggest trafficking scam in Australian history," she said.

"Every rock I look under there is a mess there for me to clean up and we are working through them bit by bit."
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/politicsnow-tanya-pliberseks-gr...

I wonder what solution Labor will come up with to sort out the mess left by the previous Labor Lite government.
Will they have balls to deport them?

By way of comparison:
Bundaberg      70,826
Bunbury      68,248
Maitland      67,132
Rockhampton      61,724
Adelaide Hills      60,394
Melbourne City Centre      60,057
Hervey Bay      52,230
Reservoir      50,092
Craigieburn      50,069
Point Cook      49,436
Tamworth      47,597
Berwick      47,074
Blacktown      46,942
Pakenham      45,895
Port Macquarie      45,692
Glen Waverley      40,238
Werribee      40,143
Dubbo      39,863
Castle Hill      39,284
Orange      38,408


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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:03am:
Have to agree with Frank here... educating our own is far more important than bringing in 'dilutees' with half the skills to fill the gaps artificially created.

I ask again - why are there so many nursing graduates who cannot get a job with NSW Health while they bring in Outlanders with 'skills'?

Why are universities permitted to bring in full fee paying Outlanders to study top grade disciplines to the detriment of local talent that often cannot afford the tuition?

Governments here have zero problem with establishing quotas for all those they love to love - what about quotas for our very own first?


I know, dear, but Frank's not our own, now is he?

He's a New Australian, otherwise known as an "immigrant".

If we educated our own, we wouldn't need graduates of the prestigious University of Balogney, now would we?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:03am:
Have to agree with Frank here... educating our own is far more important than bringing in 'dilutees' with half the skills to fill the gaps artificially created.

I ask again - why are there so many nursing graduates who cannot get a job with NSW Health while they bring in Outlanders with 'skills'?

Why are universities permitted to bring in full fee paying Outlanders to study top grade disciplines to the detriment of local talent that often cannot afford the tuition?


Governments here have zero problem with establishing quotas for all those they love to love - what about quotas for our very own first?


I know, dear, but Frank's not our own, now is he?

He's a New Australian, otherwise known as an "immigrant".

If we educated our own, we wouldn't need graduates of the prestigious University of Balogney, now would we?


As always, Mustaphaken, you are missing the point. Deliberately, I am sure.
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Mortgage stress has some Australians bracing for a new year of budget pain

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101754182

Mobaraka Mohammadi says she works 12 hours a day just to make ends meet and pay off her mortgage. 

...


Mortgage broker Gracious Chidhakwa told the ABC some households had already started missing their repayments, and she warned the full effect of the rate rises would not be felt for some time yet.

...


Ali Kawser, mortgage broker and owner of AK Home Loans based in the west of Melbourne, told the ABC that some aspiring home owners who secured house and land packages last year did not want to proceed.

...


David Lin is anxiously watching Australia's mortgage rate rises and considering whether he will have to take up another job soon.

Mr Lin, a Melburnian in his 30s, had his mortgage rate fixed before the pandemic but that will expire next year, meaning if rates stay where they are, he could be forced to pay an extra $300 to $400 every month.

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Founder and chief executive of Financially Empowered, Grace Mugabe, said the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates were hitting most people hard, particularly culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) Australians and migrants.

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We all know that continued immigration is intended to constantly raise the cost (not the value) of properties and benefit some to the detriment of the rest... been through it time and again. ....

I have no argument with parasite investors ruining the homes market for real people taking a hit - but that will not be the reality with rising interest rates ... the banks protect those vultures and throw the ordinary folk to the wolves.... and I equally have no problem with the banks taking a few hits for the team for a change....

What we don't need added to the mix is more and more people demanding homing in either rentals or purchased and also applying pressure on jobs and general incomes .... thus forever raising pressure on the COL/income balance and creating homelessness and poverty for the many.... all just to create a farce of some mythical 'growth in GDP'.

Sure more people means more spending etc... but creates of the actual product a joke by spreading available and always behind resources across a greater number.  Sure they spend more to buy less... HTF is that a genuine 'product' of anything?
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Rejected asylum seekers staying 'not right': O'Neil


Home Affairs Minister Clare O'Neil says allowing asylum seekers who have been rejected by immigration to remain in Australia is "not the right solution", despite thousands continuing to live and work in the country undocumented.

Ms O'Neil's National Press Club address on Thursday put a spotlight on the number of undocumented people living and working in Australia after she blasted the former government for passing almost one million unprocessed visas over to Labor.

Questioned by RN Breakfast as to what the government's plan is to address the 70,000 people working illegally in Australia, Ms O'Neil said awarding them permanent residency was not on the agenda.
"I don't think that's the right solution for this group of people," she said.

Ms O'Neil said the former government had left immigration in "an absolute mess", arguing that Australia has "actively avoided" dealing with the issue.

"We’ve got something we’ve actively avoided as a country, which is a group of undocumented workers who are vulnerable to exploitation," she said.

"We're not a country where you can just arrive without any reason to be here and stay permanently."

"If people are not refugees they're not owed permanent protection, we do need to provide a pathway for them to go back home."

Ms O'Neil said she was "very worried" about undocumented workers having an effect on wages, saying she is "pretty bloody annoyed" at the former government.

"Peter Dutton, while he was immigrration minister, who spent all his time striding around the country telling us what a tough guy he was on borders, and all the while, under his nose, this has been described as the biggest trafficking scam in Australian history," she said.

"Every rock I look under there is a mess there for me to clean up and we are working through them bit by bit."
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/politicsnow-tanya-pliberseks-gr...

I wonder what solution Labor will come up with to sort out the mess left by the previous Labor Lite government.
Will they have balls to deport them?

By way of comparison:
Bundaberg      70,826
Bunbury      68,248
Maitland      67,132
Rockhampton      61,724
Adelaide Hills      60,394
Melbourne City Centre      60,057
Hervey Bay      52,230
Reservoir      50,092
Craigieburn      50,069
Point Cook      49,436
Tamworth      47,597
Berwick      47,074
Blacktown      46,942
Pakenham      45,895
Port Macquarie      45,692
Glen Waverley      40,238
Werribee      40,143
Dubbo      39,863
Castle Hill      39,284
Orange      38,408




They came by plane, Frank.

Visa over-stayers.  Not asylum seekers.

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Ooooohhhhhh....... Cry Cry


Ahmed and Danice fell in love when he was in prison. Neither expected the biggest test to come after his release

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101782498
A few months before Ahmed was released from prison, he received a letter from immigration alluding to the possibility that his visa could be cancelled because of his criminal conviction.

A few months before Ahmed was released from prison, he received a letter from immigration alluding to the possibility that his visa could be cancelled because of his criminal conviction.



The other 37 family members got it,except little Ahmed.  Cry Cry
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Busy morning in the Western Suburbs of Sydney with renters trying to get on a train to get to work in the more property affluent suburbs

https://mobile.twitter.com/RBASHAGGER/status/1610743182559412245

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If large scale immigration - importing the population of Townsville EVERY year - is the answer then an awful lot of things, like education, regions, productivity etc are done wrong.





Just so, old boy. We could educate our best and brightest or import some dilutees after a stint at the pwestigious University of Balogney, no?

Either/or.
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Busy morning in the Western Suburbs of Sydney with renters trying to get on a train to get to work in the more property affluent suburbs

https://mobile.twitter.com/RBASHAGGER/status/1610743182559412245



Mumbai, eh?

Bit of a laugh, old boy. It's the Muselman we need to watch - always absolutely never ever, no?

Your Curry Shitter's just a garden-variety tinted race/sorry - culture.

Correlation not causation, innit.
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Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2023 at 4:29pm:
Ooooohhhhhh....... Cry Cry


Ahmed and Danice fell in love when he was in prison. Neither expected the biggest test to come after his release

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101782498
A few months before Ahmed was released from prison, he received a letter from immigration alluding to the possibility that his visa could be cancelled because of his criminal conviction.

A few months before Ahmed was released from prison, he received a letter from immigration alluding to the possibility that his visa could be cancelled because of his criminal conviction.



The other 37 family members got it,except little Ahmed.  Cry Cry


Ahmed's mishtake was not to marry a chap, dear boy. The Department Immigration and Border Security would have been far less inclined to send him back to where he came from.

Oh, whatever happened to our once proud country? We used to screen for undesirable cultural attributes, no?

At least we wouldn't be importing heteronormative terrorists:

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Danes?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 12:57pm:
Ship 'im out ..... one less to worry about .....


Danes?

Come come. They gave us King Knut, remember?



Not only but also.....



The Sydney Opera House exists because a few brave people dared to think differently. They made the impossible possible and inspired a nation.
From that courage and creativity, a place of extraordinary experiences was born: where for five decades people have come together; to sing, dance, laugh, cry, play, create and debate.

That’s a lot to celebrate. So in our 50th year, we’re throwing a party and everyone’s invited. Join us for a year-long festival celebrating the past, present and future of Australia’s favourite building.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 12:57pm:
Ship 'im out ..... one less to worry about .....


Danes?

Come come. They gave us King Knut, remember?


My ancestry is part Danish - you wouldn't want to ship me out, would you?   How would this country find its way out of the darkness without me?  I meant the Mad Musso...... the good ones can stay... the rest can take a hike with their packed bags... catch a lift home somewhere out in the Pacific...


Deep within the early hours of a midnight drear in deepest Winter.... a darked out stealth helicopter set down on Villawood Oval.... its blades making only about a quarter of the sound a normal chopper's would...... swiftly dark vans with their lights off and their interior lights removed moved across the flat ground to the waiting dark bird.... as they drew up alongside the sliding doors quietly slipped open on the dark beast.... revealing a dark interior in which could just be made out the forms of several bulky men in dark clothing covering all except their eyes..... a hooded and gagged and handcuffed Ahmed is swiftly removed from one of the vans followed almost immediately by several more figures equally hooded and gagged and cuffed... one by one they are unceremoniously shoved into the gaping maw of the black chopper, where the bulky men grab hold of them and slip chains through their cuffs, cuff their feet, and slide and lock the chains through eyelets set into the walls and floors.... the doors swiftly close, the vans load up , a few people fewer than when they arrived, and vanish into the dark night...... the black chopper takes of as near silently as it arrived and sets a course East... somewhere towards New Zealand......... it's first drop-off point for one of the hooded and gagged figures chained to the floor and walls...... as it crosses the coast near Mascot, not a peep comes from the control tower where only the back-up crew of emergency controllers rest during non-operational time at the airport.... they are under strict orders to see and hear nothing and each is bound by the Official secrets Act ... not that they would tell anyone anything anyway... plausible deniability says they saw and heard nothing....  the black chopper heads East towards Aotearoa..... and stops north east ......
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[quote]My ancestry is part Danish [/quote]

The other part moron


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[quote author=John_Smith link=1662100846/35#35 date=1672997742][quote]My ancestry is part Danish [/quote]

The other part moron


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This is no drill.  This is an overfly of a Stealth Glitch to send a message...... ah, grasshoppers - only those who have attained a state of true grace can see the Stealth Glitch as it passes by like a satellite.... he only saw it flying past, but it still got Lefty up the ast ....  Major Igor - that is a fine Glitch... even I can't see it and it is there.... should send a message to the Recals here tonight...
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:11pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 12:57pm:
Ship 'im out ..... one less to worry about .....


Danes?

Come come. They gave us King Knut, remember?



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The Sydney Opera House exists because a few brave people dared to think differently. They made the impossible possible and inspired a nation.
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That’s a lot to celebrate. So in our 50th year, we’re throwing a party and everyone’s invited. Join us for a year-long festival celebrating the past, present and future of Australia’s favourite building.
https://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/50.html



Exactlemente. Sydney Opera House, domestic violence and King Kunt.

Just so, as every schoolboy knows.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 3:11pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 12:57pm:
Ship 'im out ..... one less to worry about .....


Danes?

Come come. They gave us King Knut, remember?


My ancestry is part Danish - you wouldn't want to ship me out, would you?


Never. They flew here, ja?

We grew here. Chalk and cheese, innit.
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Ship out all the undesirables - even the long-termers can be banished from our shores, black or white....  get some good old Ethical Cleansing going on... get rid of the criminals etc first.... the revolutionaries ... the terrorists .... the recalcitrants ... those who will not accept Australian sovereignty ....

Drain the Swamps.... Lance The Poisons ... Burn Off The Leeches .... Scrape Off the Barnacles.... Bring In The reverse Boat People Policy - bring all those boat people ashore for ' checking' etc - reload the boats and send them out filled with The Undesirables.... The Unspeakables ..... the Intractables....  shape 'em up in small groups and ship 'em out....
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How long before Ahmed again loses his temper, and punches his new
wife's lights out.  He admitted that he'd lost his temper during the fight
he was involved in, and overreacted.    Who's to say that won't happen
again with the naive Danice, who fell in love with an idea rather than a
man?

In my opinion, any immigrant who commits a crime worthy of a jail
sentence should be deported immediately upon his/her release.

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AusGeoff wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:29pm:
How long before Ahmed again loses his temper, and punches his new
wife's lights out
.  He admitted that he'd lost his temper during the fight
he was involved in, and overreacted.    Who's to say that won't happen
again with the naive Danice, who fell in love with an idea rather than a
man?

In my opinion, any immigrant who commits a crime worthy of a jail
sentence should be deported immediately upon his/her release.




Once he gets his permanent residency/citizenship.

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Mortgage stress has some Australians bracing for a new year of budget pain

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101754182

Mobaraka Mohammadi says she works 12 hours a day just to make ends meet and pay off her mortgage. 

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/71ca9af678f5c9474d0beeae99
fc0fdf?.jpg[/url]


Mortgage broker Gracious Chidhakwa told the ABC some households had already started missing their repayments, and she warned the full effect of the rate rises would not be felt for some time yet.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cc98ab24e24be3c26352377148
e5aa00?.jpg[/url]


Ali Kawser, mortgage broker and owner of AK Home Loans based in the west of Melbourne, told the ABC that some aspiring home owners who secured house and land packages last year did not want to proceed.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/93853913738e6ff346fc7b620
07124b9?.jpg[/url]


David Lin is anxiously watching Australia's mortgage rate rises and considering whether he will have to take up another job soon.

Mr Lin, a Melburnian in his 30s, had his mortgage rate fixed before the pandemic but that will expire next year, meaning if rates stay where they are, he could be forced to pay an extra $300 to $400 every month.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/c2b02186588b85e696427866f
d4e5059?.jpg[/url]

Founder and chief executive of Financially Empowered, Grace Mugabe, said the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates were hitting most people hard, particularly culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) Australians and migrants.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cdef474b168693ad9fd4698a47
a5bd14?.jpg[/url]


What's you point with all of this, old boy? The fact that these people warning of the now evident housing crisis are tinted?

Like, how very dare they and stuff?

What happened to you?
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How long before Ahmed again loses his temper, and punches his new
wife's lights out.  He admitted that he'd lost his temper during the fight
he was involved in, and overreacted.    Who's to say that won't happen
again with the naive Danice, who fell in love with an idea rather than a
man?

In my opinion, any immigrant who commits a crime worthy of a jail
sentence should be deported immediately upon his/her release.




Well isn't that just a rather stern appraisal based on not very much information at all. I mean, we've even relegated the lovely Danice to "naïve" and are in full understanding of her motivations. From what Frank said. Twice.

(And you've a thing with undervaluing women, Geoff. You might want to explore that about yourself.)

I for one am thankful that such decisions rest with our systems of justice and not just angry old men on the internet, shaking their collective fists at clouds and congratulating each other for it.
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mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 7:53am:
Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Mortgage stress has some Australians bracing for a new year of budget pain

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101754182

Mobaraka Mohammadi says she works 12 hours a day just to make ends meet and pay off her mortgage. 

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/71ca9af678f5c9474d0beeae99
fc0fdf?.jpg[/url]


Mortgage broker Gracious Chidhakwa told the ABC some households had already started missing their repayments, and she warned the full effect of the rate rises would not be felt for some time yet.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cc98ab24e24be3c26352377148
e5aa00?.jpg[/url]


Ali Kawser, mortgage broker and owner of AK Home Loans based in the west of Melbourne, told the ABC that some aspiring home owners who secured house and land packages last year did not want to proceed.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/93853913738e6ff346fc7b620
07124b9?.jpg[/url]


David Lin is anxiously watching Australia's mortgage rate rises and considering whether he will have to take up another job soon.

Mr Lin, a Melburnian in his 30s, had his mortgage rate fixed before the pandemic but that will expire next year, meaning if rates stay where they are, he could be forced to pay an extra $300 to $400 every month.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/c2b02186588b85e696427866f
d4e5059?.jpg[/url]

Founder and chief executive of Financially Empowered, Grace Mugabe, said the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates were hitting most people hard, particularly culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) Australians and migrants.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cdef474b168693ad9fd4698a47
a5bd14?.jpg[/url]


What's you point with all of this, old boy? The fact that these people warning of the now evident housing crisis are tinted?

Like, how very dare they and stuff?

What happened to you?

'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.

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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:53am:
AusGeoff wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:29pm:
How long before Ahmed again loses his temper, and punches his new
wife's lights out
.  He admitted that he'd lost his temper during the fight
he was involved in, and overreacted.    Who's to say that won't happen
again with the naive Danice, who fell in love with an idea rather than a
man?

In my opinion, any immigrant who commits a crime worthy of a jail
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Once he gets his permanent residency/citizenship.



No. He/she should be permanently blacklisted/disqualified from obtaining permanent residency/citizenship.



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Reply #48 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:34am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 7:53am:
Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Mortgage stress has some Australians bracing for a new year of budget pain

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101754182

Mobaraka Mohammadi says she works 12 hours a day just to make ends meet and pay off her mortgage. 

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/71ca9af678f5c9474d0beeae99
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Mortgage broker Gracious Chidhakwa told the ABC some households had already started missing their repayments, and she warned the full effect of the rate rises would not be felt for some time yet.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cc98ab24e24be3c26352377148
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Ali Kawser, mortgage broker and owner of AK Home Loans based in the west of Melbourne, told the ABC that some aspiring home owners who secured house and land packages last year did not want to proceed.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/93853913738e6ff346fc7b620
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David Lin is anxiously watching Australia's mortgage rate rises and considering whether he will have to take up another job soon.

Mr Lin, a Melburnian in his 30s, had his mortgage rate fixed before the pandemic but that will expire next year, meaning if rates stay where they are, he could be forced to pay an extra $300 to $400 every month.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/c2b02186588b85e696427866f
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Founder and chief executive of Financially Empowered, Grace Mugabe, said the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates were hitting most people hard, particularly culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) Australians and migrants.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cdef474b168693ad9fd4698a47
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What's you point with all of this, old boy? The fact that these people warning of the now evident housing crisis are tinted?

Like, how very dare they and stuff?

What happened to you?

'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



For you, certainly. Despite you being an immigrant.

I absolutely love multiculturalism however. So i'm well pleased with everyone but your sort.
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Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.

Don't worry .... I'm an immigrant too. I have also been told that. Many times.  😂😆🤣

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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better
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Reply #51 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.
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Reply #52 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:07am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.



You mean after all the colonising bastards ruined their homelands and implemented unnatural borders on them?

Did someone reap what they sowed?
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Reply #53 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:11am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better



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Reply #54 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 11:06am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 7:53am:
Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Mortgage stress has some Australians bracing for a new year of budget pain

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101754182

Mobaraka Mohammadi says she works 12 hours a day just to make ends meet and pay off her mortgage. 

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/71ca9af678f5c9474d0beeae99
fc0fdf?.jpg[/url]


Mortgage broker Gracious Chidhakwa told the ABC some households had already started missing their repayments, and she warned the full effect of the rate rises would not be felt for some time yet.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cc98ab24e24be3c26352377148
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Ali Kawser, mortgage broker and owner of AK Home Loans based in the west of Melbourne, told the ABC that some aspiring home owners who secured house and land packages last year did not want to proceed.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/93853913738e6ff346fc7b620
07124b9?.jpg[/url]


David Lin is anxiously watching Australia's mortgage rate rises and considering whether he will have to take up another job soon.

Mr Lin, a Melburnian in his 30s, had his mortgage rate fixed before the pandemic but that will expire next year, meaning if rates stay where they are, he could be forced to pay an extra $300 to $400 every month.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/c2b02186588b85e696427866f
d4e5059?.jpg[/url]

Founder and chief executive of Financially Empowered, Grace Mugabe, said the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates were hitting most people hard, particularly culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) Australians and migrants.

[url]https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/cdef474b168693ad9fd4698a47
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What's you point with all of this, old boy? The fact that these people warning of the now evident housing crisis are tinted?

Like, how very dare they and stuff?

What happened to you?

'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



Just so, Mothra. The old boy's finally come to this conclusion.

It took a while. First, he had to country shop around a bit, pick somewhere nice and fill in some forms. Next, he had to pack his bags and get a taxi to the airport. Last, but not least, he flew here.

Yes, while we were all busily being conceived and bred and learning our manners, we grew here. The old boy, alternatively, flew here.

As you can see, he has quite a different outlook to the rest of us. He's still learning our customs and jolly ways. It took him some time, but the old boy has finally concluded that immigration is not for him.

Too bad, so sad. Looks like it's back to where he came from.

As you can see, we grew here, he flew here. It is a jolly world, no?
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Reply #56 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.
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Reply #57 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.
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John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?

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Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.


Not at all, dear. Mattyfisk grew here. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you flew here.

And that's okay. Ask the old boy.

Aren't we all immigrants in our own stool-sniffing way?
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy

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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Now that's a question.

Why would you, Sore End, graduate of the prestigious University of Balogney, immigrate to our fine shores to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like us?

We'll do this one as a multiple choice, shall we? Quiz you for the citizenship test.

Was it:

A) You wanted to be a part of our rich multicultural tapestry.

B) You admired our ancient, 50,000 year old culture.

C) You wanted to join the great Australian century, a prosperous middle power, a bridge between new and old, Asia and Europe, tinted and tanned.

D) You mistakenly believed we still had the White Australia Policy in place, but it's all good, you've learned otherwise and have been completely rehabilitated.
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John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Now that's a question.

Why would you, Sore End, graduate of the prestigious University of Balogney, immigrate to our fine shores to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like us?

We'll do this one as a multiple choice, shall we? Quiz you for the citizenship test.

Was it:

A) You wanted to be a part of our rich multicultural tapestry.

B) You admired our ancient, 50,000 year old culture.

C) You wanted to join the great Australian century, a prosperous middle power, a bridge between new and old, Asia and Europe, tinted and tanned.

D) You mistakenly believed we still had the White Australia Policy in place, but it's all good, you've learned otherwise and have been completely rehabilitated.


I am not a graduate of the University of Bologna, wee paki bugger, I did a semester as study abroad.
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.

We're talking about you,  not your parents. At your age you're still trying to blame your parents for your lifes woes??... you've had decades to not live with the likes of me and yet you're still here. I think you're full of poo......again  Roll Eyes

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Hilarious/ridiculous

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John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.

We're talking about you,  not your parents. At your age you're still trying to blame your parents for your lifes woes??... you've had decades to not live with the likes of me and yet you're still here. I think you're full of poo......again  Roll Eyes


You are not Australia, Thick As.

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And yet ANOTHER thread devolves into a puerile slanging
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.

We're talking about you,  not your parents. At your age you're still trying to blame your parents for your lifes woes??... you've had decades to not live with the likes of me and yet you're still here. I think you're full of poo......again  Roll Eyes


You are not Australia, Thick As.




I know you are a moron but i never said I was Australia.
YOU were the moron who said you didn't want to live amongst my kind. Put your money where your mouth is and farkk off back to your shitehole country
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.


Not at all, dear. Mattyfisk grew here. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you flew here.

And that's okay. Ask the old boy.

Aren't we all immigrants in our own stool-sniffing way?


WTF are you on about now fake shared multi troll?

I was BORN in Australia! In fact all my brothers and sisters were!

My mum and dad migrated to Australia from Greece and Italy (respectively) as teenagers in the mid 60's. And the Australian govt invited/paid for them to get here. They did not fly here. They came by cruise ship.

They met and married here. I was born here. I was educated here. I've lived here all my life and my children are a mix of Greek, Italian, English, Irish, German and French.

I've now buried both my parents here. In Australia. The country where both my parents lived for most of their lives.

My son and daughter (from my 1st marriage) still have their paternal grandfathers WW2 medals and actual uniform. As well as all his war photos. They also have the photos and medals of his 2 uncles who fought in Gallipoli. These children ie MY children have blood links to the Anzacs.

So yeah I feel very proud to call Australia MY country. And I'll be damned if I'm going to be told by anyone that I'm less of an Australian than anyone else! i
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Reply #71 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.


So you were born in Australia also. Your parents were migrants.

Question: Why then are you constantly being told to go back to your own country by these racist morons?





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Reply #72 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:27pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Now that's a question.

Why would you, Sore End, graduate of the prestigious University of Balogney, immigrate to our fine shores to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like us?

We'll do this one as a multiple choice, shall we? Quiz you for the citizenship test.

Was it:

A) You wanted to be a part of our rich multicultural tapestry.

B) You admired our ancient, 50,000 year old culture.

C) You wanted to join the great Australian century, a prosperous middle power, a bridge between new and old, Asia and Europe, tinted and tanned.

D) You mistakenly believed we still had the White Australia Policy in place, but it's all good, you've learned otherwise and have been completely rehabilitated.


I am not a graduate of the University of Bologna, wee paki bugger, I did a semester as study abroad.


Oh, I see. Exchange student, were you?

Not from Dubbo, by any chance, are you?

We can tell, old boy. We grew here.

You?
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Reply #73 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:30pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.


Not at all, dear. Mattyfisk grew here. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you flew here.

And that's okay. Ask the old boy.

Aren't we all immigrants in our own stool-sniffing way?


WTF are you on about now fake shared multi troll?

I was BORN in Australia! In fact all my brothers and sisters were!

My mum and dad migrated to Australia from Greece and Italy (respectively) as teenagers in the mid 60's. And the Australian govt invited/paid for them to get here. They did not fly here. They came by cruise ship.

They met and married here. I was born here. I was educated here. I've lived here all my life and my children are a mix of Greek, Italian, English, Irish, German and French.

I've now buried both my parents here. In Australia. The country where both my parents lived for most of their lives.

My son and daughter (from my 1st marriage) still have their paternal grandfathers WW2 medals and actual uniform. As well as all his war photos. They also have the photos and medals of his 2 uncles who fought in Gallipoli. These children ie MY children have blood links to the Anzacs.

So yeah I feel very proud to call Australia MY country. And I'll be damned if I'm going to be told by anyone that I'm less of an Australian than anyone else!



Boat people, eh?

Dear oh dear. I'm sure the old boy admires your courage, Miss Cheeky.

He flew here. He's most patriotic when it comes to travel by sea.

You?
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Reply #74 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:32pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:10pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Well derr, you did leave your country to come and live in my country ya dumbass Cheesy


Morlocks like you were not the attraction for my parents.


So you were born in Australia also. Your parents were migrants.

Question: Why then are you constantly being told to go back to your own country by these racist morons?



Old boy? Would you care to enlighten Miss Cheeky?

She's looking for love.

And aren't we all in our own way?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:23pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.


try living underground ... about 6 ft should do it



Why would I want to live among gruesome and barbaric morlocks like you, Thick As?



Now that's a question.

Why would you, Sore End, graduate of the prestigious University of Balogney, immigrate to our fine shores to live among grusome and barbaric morlocks like us?

We'll do this one as a multiple choice, shall we? Quiz you for the citizenship test.

Was it:

A) You wanted to be a part of our rich multicultural tapestry.

B) You admired our ancient, 50,000 year old culture.

C) You wanted to join the great Australian century, a prosperous middle power, a bridge between new and old, Asia and Europe, tinted and tanned.

D) You mistakenly believed we still had the White Australia Policy in place, but it's all good, you've learned otherwise and have been completely rehabilitated.


I am not a graduate of the University of Bologna, wee paki bugger, I did a semester as study abroad.


Oh, I see. Exchange student, were you?

Not from Dubbo, by any chance, are you?

We can tell, old boy. We grew here.

You?

WTF are you on about? - that is the perennial question, pb.  WTF are you on about?

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Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.


Not at all, dear. Mattyfisk grew here. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you flew here.

And that's okay. Ask the old boy.

Aren't we all immigrants in our own stool-sniffing way?


WTF are you on about now fake shared multi troll?


There it is again, paki!
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Did someone mention Racism on OzPol?

👇 https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1673034287/150#150
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.



...

The police know that Majd abuses his partner because they have been alerted to the address on several occasions. They have arrested Majd for assaulting women before. The woman has been in hospital and had her injuries documented. But each time the woman defends her husband - saying that it is she who beats him as much - and everything spills out into the sand.

When the police arrive at the apartment this time, they are met, as so many times before, by a badly bruised woman, a smashed apartment and an aggressive, screaming Syrian. The woman is taken to hospital by ambulance, while the man is arrested and taken to the police station. Like so many times before.

He is sentenced at the same time for another theft, damage and violent resistance in connection with a previous police intervention when he spat and kicked at the intervening police officers.

The penalty will be nine months in prison and a compensation of SEK 120,000 to the woman. It is also decided that Shhada should be deported to his home country of Syria and given a five-year repatriation ban.

The Court of Appeal does increase the penalty to one year and four months in prison, but at the same time annuls the deportation order.

The court believes that the fact that Majd Shhada came to Sweden as a 17-year-old, soon "may become a parent" and risks military service in his home country means that he cannot be deported. He "will be conscripted into war or killed if he is deported there", according to the Court of Appeal.


Therefore, the Syrian violent criminal is allowed to stay in Sweden.

https://samnytt.se/hovratt-stoppar-utvisning-av-valdsman-gjorde-offret-gravid/

Why are all Western countries are importing morlocks?



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Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:01am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 10:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Frank you're an immigrant. Don't ever forget that.


Miss Cheeky has a point, old boy. You, yourself, are a naughty old country-shopper.

But do you know? Aren't we all, in our own way, immigrants?

Don't we all fly off to foreign countries, fill their streets, steal their jobs and breed their fillies?

Don't we all complain about multiculturalism, Boongs, the Muselman and the tinted races?

And if anyone asks any pesky questions, don't we all call them Pakistani Bastards and tell them to go back to where they came from?

Yes, old boy, you're an immigrant too. Don't you ever forget that.


And so are you Karnal/Matty. Best you take your own advice first.


Not at all, dear. Mattyfisk grew here. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you flew here.

And that's okay. Ask the old boy.

Aren't we all immigrants in our own stool-sniffing way?


WTF are you on about now fake shared multi troll?


There it is again, paki!


What are we on about? Oh, that's easy.

You, playing no-speaka with your good old "I like Danish" blow-in status. You?

Yes, dear boy, you. You flew here, we grew here. Who's the naughty old country-shopping Paki?

Would you like it in Urdu?
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Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:54am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.



https://konto.samnytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/utvisning-stoppas-feature.jp...

The police know that Majd abuses his partner because they have been alerted to the address on several occasions. They have arrested Majd for assaulting women before. The woman has been in hospital and had her injuries documented. But each time the woman defends her husband - saying that it is she who beats him as much - and everything spills out into the sand.

When the police arrive at the apartment this time, they are met, as so many times before, by a badly bruised woman, a smashed apartment and an aggressive, screaming Syrian. The woman is taken to hospital by ambulance, while the man is arrested and taken to the police station. Like so many times before.

He is sentenced at the same time for another theft, damage and violent resistance in connection with a previous police intervention when he spat and kicked at the intervening police officers.

The penalty will be nine months in prison and a compensation of SEK 120,000 to the woman. It is also decided that Shhada should be deported to his home country of Syria and given a five-year repatriation ban.

The Court of Appeal does increase the penalty to one year and four months in prison, but at the same time annuls the deportation order.

The court believes that the fact that Majd Shhada came to Sweden as a 17-year-old, soon "may become a parent" and risks military service in his home country means that he cannot be deported. He "will be conscripted into war or killed if he is deported there", according to the Court of Appeal.


Therefore, the Syrian violent criminal is allowed to stay in Sweden.

https://samnytt.se/hovratt-stoppar-utvisning-av-valdsman-gjorde-offret-gravid/

Why are all Western countries are importing morlocks?



That's an easy one too, dear boy:

Because you people keep coming. Hoardes of you, swarming in like locusts and devouring everything in your path. Stealing our jobs, filling our roads and bashing our women.

https://cphpost.dk/?p=131395#:~:text=A%20huge%20World%20Health%20Organization,on...

The statistics show that one in four of you are naughty old perps, but do you know? It's a risk we're prepared to take.

You add flavour to our rich, multicultural stew, no?
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Head 'em up - and move 'em out.... the next boat to leave is the Reverse Boat People Express stopping only somewhere in West Papua and points north and west for all dissidents and malfeasants and discontents ..... Allll Abo-ard!!
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Reply #83 - Jan 12th, 2023 at 5:43pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 11:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:54am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.



https://konto.samnytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/utvisning-stoppas-feature.jp...

The police know that Majd abuses his partner because they have been alerted to the address on several occasions. They have arrested Majd for assaulting women before. The woman has been in hospital and had her injuries documented. But each time the woman defends her husband - saying that it is she who beats him as much - and everything spills out into the sand.

When the police arrive at the apartment this time, they are met, as so many times before, by a badly bruised woman, a smashed apartment and an aggressive, screaming Syrian. The woman is taken to hospital by ambulance, while the man is arrested and taken to the police station. Like so many times before.

He is sentenced at the same time for another theft, damage and violent resistance in connection with a previous police intervention when he spat and kicked at the intervening police officers.

The penalty will be nine months in prison and a compensation of SEK 120,000 to the woman. It is also decided that Shhada should be deported to his home country of Syria and given a five-year repatriation ban.

The Court of Appeal does increase the penalty to one year and four months in prison, but at the same time annuls the deportation order.

The court believes that the fact that Majd Shhada came to Sweden as a 17-year-old, soon "may become a parent" and risks military service in his home country means that he cannot be deported. He "will be conscripted into war or killed if he is deported there", according to the Court of Appeal.


Therefore, the Syrian violent criminal is allowed to stay in Sweden.

https://samnytt.se/hovratt-stoppar-utvisning-av-valdsman-gjorde-offret-gravid/

Why are all Western countries are importing morlocks?



That's an easy one too, dear boy:

Because you people keep coming. Hoardes of you, swarming in like locusts and devouring everything in your path. Stealing our jobs, filling our roads and bashing our women.

https://cphpost.dk/?p=131395#:~:text=A%20huge%20World%20Health%20Organization,on...

The statistics show that one in four of you are naughty old perps, but do you know? It's a risk we're prepared to take.

You add flavour to our rich, multicultural stew, no?

As in Sweden, so in Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany, England, Austria.

In 2018, Uppdrag Granskning, a TV-program broadcasted on Swedish state television, surveyed every individual registered for rape or attempted rape between 2012 and 2017. 58% were foreign-born. Among the remaining 42% born in Sweden, some had a migrant background as children to foreign-born, but their exact proportion was not presented. Among those registered for attempted, and completed sexual assault, where victim and criminal were strangers, a good 80% were foreign-born.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-019-00436-8
See also
https://www.spectator.com.au/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/


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Might need another increase in the migrant intake to deal with this (and who didn't see this coming?).

Employees retiring early due to the COVID pandemic

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InvestSMART Chief Market Strategist Evan Lucas says the COVID pandemic has pushed people to retire early, causing an inconvenience with the overall employment market.

“More people have fallen out of work and haven’t come back,” Mr Lucas told Sky News Australia.

“We know that about 1 to 1.5 per cent of the population per year retires; it’s currently sitting at 3 per cent.

“The pandemic has fast-forwarded people’s expectations around work towards retirement sooner than expected rather than to a new job.”


Can't say I blame them. If I hadn't retired myself at the end of June 2019, 6 months before the pandemic started I definitely would have done it in the past 12 months.

Of course, the other "solution" to the problem will no doubt be for the Federal government to raise the pension age even further - to 70 or more like Scott Morrison and the Liberals were thinking about doing not long before the 2019 Federal election (which they quickly dropped, of course).

Oh, and they will probably also want to raise the age when you can access your super too... I heard there were 'moves afoot' a few years back to stop people accessing their super until they reached pension age. Only those with a genuine need to access their super earlier would be allowed to - and I bet the government would make it as difficult as possible for people to do that.
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Why I dislike multiculturalism - it is a complete one way sham:


The bustling East London neighbourhood that feels like you're living in Bangladesh
More than half the residents are Bangladeshi in this corner of East London, and for many it feels like home


The best thing about living in Shadwell is you are living with people like you,” says a local who has lived and traded in the area for more than 20 years. The heartland of the Bangladeshi community in London falls within the borough of Tower Hamlets, where over 40 per cent of people are Bangladeshi. In Shadwell North, that figure rises to 54.7 per cent.

“It was a good area to live in before and it is now, but things have changed. Before there were less people and it wasn’t as crowded. The area used to be quieter and cleaner but these things have changed too.” (you can say that again)
“The shops, restaurants, mosques and everything in the area caters to the the Bangladeshi community and there is a strong sense of community.”

Local Imam Ibrahim Ali, 27 from the Ashaadibi Centre said the congregation is largely Bangladeshi with Somali and Arab Muslims coming to join prayers too. Ibrahim said: “The mosque does what it can by putting on activities for men and women in the community especially the youth because there aren't many youth centres or opportunities.”

He added: “People in this area are treated like second class citizens, they are living in crowded houses and there is a lack of opportunity and role models in the area. I think the lack of opportunity will see young people leave the area over the years." (Well, you form ghettos, what did you expect?)

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-london-news/bustling-east-london-neighbourho...


Why go to the West to play Bangladeshi, to be with Bangladeshis? Same for all the ghetto-forming third worlders.

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“People in this area are treated like second class citizens, they are living in crowded houses and there is a lack of opportunity and role models in the area. I think the lack of opportunity will see young people leave the area over the years."

We have much the same problem here - people choosing to live that way because they don't know any better.  They treat themselves that way - nobody else does - same as the Abos.

Choice-mobile, son - that's what  it's all about...

Ok.. OK:-

"Treated like second class citizens."  How and by whom?  You mean they can't vote etc?

"Living in crowded houses."  Well - DE-crowd them!

"Lack of opportunity."  You mean they can't go to uni, can't go to schools, can't get a trade, can't find a job?  Tell it to their PM....

"lack of role models." Well Bug Army!  So where are they in that 'community'? Kind of the Abo 'Elders' who do and say nothing unless it's sit down with whitey for a handout instead of guiding and leading the young guns.  Smoking hash and sitting around whining about how badly Britain treats them?  Talking holy war against the oppressor?

All sounds familiar to me....

They are not forced to build their own ghettoes and the problems in those... like Abos in broken down houses provided out West, they do that to themselves.

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Call it what you like - it is way past time to stop bringing in all these different groups and being the dumping ground for all the Third World.  We all know that the government of two parties wants to 'equalise' us all across the globe - as long as they are not included there - either so they can enjoy a Third World workforce as the new Overlords or so they can lie back in the warm feeling that they've saved the world while they themselves are lying back in riches and luxury and they and their families are becoming the new Overlords with all the money and power.

Nothing but a reversion to the old Feudal days ..... nothing 'progressive' about it in any way.  Destructive of our culture and society is the word.

Time for the people to wake up, stand up and be counted where it counts.  Stop voting for any politician who supports any of the current madness.....
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Carl D wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 11:56pm:
Might need another increase in the migrant intake to deal with this (and who didn't see this coming?).

Employees retiring early due to the COVID pandemic

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InvestSMART Chief Market Strategist Evan Lucas says the COVID pandemic has pushed people to retire early, causing an inconvenience with the overall employment market.

“More people have fallen out of work and haven’t come back,” Mr Lucas told Sky News Australia.

“We know that about 1 to 1.5 per cent of the population per year retires; it’s currently sitting at 3 per cent.

“The pandemic has fast-forwarded people’s expectations around work towards retirement sooner than expected rather than to a new job.”


Can't say I blame them. If I hadn't retired myself at the end of June 2019, 6 months before the pandemic started I definitely would have done it in the past 12 months.

Of course, the other "solution" to the problem will no doubt be for the Federal government to raise the pension age even further - to 70 or more like Scott Morrison and the Liberals were thinking about doing not long before the 2019 Federal election (which they quickly dropped, of course).

Oh, and they will probably also want to raise the age when you can access your super too... I heard there were 'moves afoot' a few years back to stop people accessing their super until they reached pension age. Only those with a genuine need to access their super earlier would be allowed to - and I bet the government would make it as difficult as possible for people to do that.


It might be smart if the Oz nation funded TAFE again and educated its own working age population rather than relying on immigration, especially since the housing, road and health infrastructure is already inadequate for the needs of the current population. 

https://www.nswtf.org.au/news/2021/05/13/federal-budget-lets-down-tafe-sector-ag...

Federal Budget lets down TAFE sector, again

"Since 2013, TAFE has suffered more than $3 billion in funding cuts. These cuts have had a devastating effect on TAFE.






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Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Why I dislike multiculturalism - it is a complete one way sham:


The bustling East London neighbourhood that feels like you're living in Bangladesh
More than half the residents are Bangladeshi in this corner of East London, and for many it feels like home


The best thing about living in Shadwell is you are living with people like you,” says a local who has lived and traded in the area for more than 20 years. The heartland of the Bangladeshi community in London falls within the borough of Tower Hamlets, where over 40 per cent of people are Bangladeshi. In Shadwell North, that figure rises to 54.7 per cent.

“It was a good area to live in before and it is now, but things have changed. Before there were less people and it wasn’t as crowded. The area used to be quieter and cleaner but these things have changed too.” (you can say that again)
“The shops, restaurants, mosques and everything in the area caters to the the Bangladeshi community and there is a strong sense of community.”

Local Imam Ibrahim Ali, 27 from the Ashaadibi Centre said the congregation is largely Bangladeshi with Somali and Arab Muslims coming to join prayers too. Ibrahim said: “The mosque does what it can by putting on activities for men and women in the community especially the youth because there aren't many youth centres or opportunities.”

He added: “People in this area are treated like second class citizens, they are living in crowded houses and there is a lack of opportunity and role models in the area. I think the lack of opportunity will see young people leave the area over the years." (Well, you form ghettos, what did you expect?)

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-london-news/bustling-east-london-neighbourho...


Why go to the West to play Bangladeshi, to be with Bangladeshis? Same for all the ghetto-forming third worlders.



And why come to Australia to be with the Boongs?

You tell me that.
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Reply #91 - Jan 17th, 2023 at 8:03am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 5:43pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 11:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:54am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:57am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:24am:
'Multiculturalism'. It's dreadful.



you are free to farkk off back home whenever you like .... in fact, the sooner the better

It's everywhere in Western countries. If you want to escape multiculturalism you have to go to the grusome third world shiteholes- from where all the unassimilating cultural separatists are pouring into Western countries.



https://konto.samnytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/utvisning-stoppas-feature.jp...

The police know that Majd abuses his partner because they have been alerted to the address on several occasions. They have arrested Majd for assaulting women before. The woman has been in hospital and had her injuries documented. But each time the woman defends her husband - saying that it is she who beats him as much - and everything spills out into the sand.

When the police arrive at the apartment this time, they are met, as so many times before, by a badly bruised woman, a smashed apartment and an aggressive, screaming Syrian. The woman is taken to hospital by ambulance, while the man is arrested and taken to the police station. Like so many times before.

He is sentenced at the same time for another theft, damage and violent resistance in connection with a previous police intervention when he spat and kicked at the intervening police officers.

The penalty will be nine months in prison and a compensation of SEK 120,000 to the woman. It is also decided that Shhada should be deported to his home country of Syria and given a five-year repatriation ban.

The Court of Appeal does increase the penalty to one year and four months in prison, but at the same time annuls the deportation order.

The court believes that the fact that Majd Shhada came to Sweden as a 17-year-old, soon "may become a parent" and risks military service in his home country means that he cannot be deported. He "will be conscripted into war or killed if he is deported there", according to the Court of Appeal.


Therefore, the Syrian violent criminal is allowed to stay in Sweden.

https://samnytt.se/hovratt-stoppar-utvisning-av-valdsman-gjorde-offret-gravid/

Why are all Western countries are importing morlocks?



That's an easy one too, dear boy:

Because you people keep coming. Hoardes of you, swarming in like locusts and devouring everything in your path. Stealing our jobs, filling our roads and bashing our women.

https://cphpost.dk/?p=131395#:~:text=A%20huge%20World%20Health%20Organization,on...

The statistics show that one in four of you are naughty old perps, but do you know? It's a risk we're prepared to take.

You add flavour to our rich, multicultural stew, no?

As in Sweden, so in Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany, England, Austria.

In 2018, Uppdrag Granskning, a TV-program broadcasted on Swedish state television, surveyed every individual registered for rape or attempted rape between 2012 and 2017. 58% were foreign-born. Among the remaining 42% born in Sweden, some had a migrant background as children to foreign-born, but their exact proportion was not presented. Among those registered for attempted, and completed sexual assault, where victim and criminal were strangers, a good 80% were foreign-born.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-019-00436-8
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https://www.spectator.com.au/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/




Oh, I see. You like Swedish now, do you?

Cunning, no?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 14th, 2023 at 10:25am:
Call it what you like - it is way past time to stop bringing in all these different groups and being the dumping ground for all the Third World.  We all know that the government of two parties wants to 'equalise' us all across the globe - as long as they are not included there - either so they can enjoy a Third World workforce as the new Overlords or so they can lie back in the warm feeling that they've saved the world while they themselves are lying back in riches and luxury and they and their families are becoming the new Overlords with all the money and power.



International co-operation and institutions designed to engender sustainable growth in all nations is required.

But the obsolete concept of "national sovereignty" is a barrier to international co-operation and setting up the necessary institutions ( eg Keynes' "clearing union" concept").  

Therefore you must deal with the consequences of people forced to flee from the entrenched 3rd world poverty, aided and abetted by governments following the delusional "infinite growth" theory of economics in the 1st world.    




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Reply #93 - Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:09am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:03am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 14th, 2023 at 10:25am:
Call it what you like - it is way past time to stop bringing in all these different groups and being the dumping ground for all the Third World.  We all know that the government of two parties wants to 'equalise' us all across the globe - as long as they are not included there - either so they can enjoy a Third World workforce as the new Overlords or so they can lie back in the warm feeling that they've saved the world while they themselves are lying back in riches and luxury and they and their families are becoming the new Overlords with all the money and power.



International co-operation and institutions designed to engender sustainable growth in all nations is required.

But the obsolete concept of "national sovereignty" is a barrier to international co-operation.   

Therefore you must deal with the consequences of people forced to flee from the '3rd world', aided and abetted by governments following the delusional "infinite growth" theory of economics.   







Just accept that you will never dispose of 'national sovereignty' and move on.  We are not 'forced' to deal with the consequences of people forced to flee etc - what is at question here and now is the values applied on who gets in and who doesn't and on what basis.

Huge difference.  Australia could lock the gates tomorrow - no difference to how it's actually handled - but we have NO compulsion to take in anyone - it's a voluntary component of our (gasps) national sovereignty - the alternative is to be wide open to invasion from anyone and anywhere.

I'd suggest you start with the more recalcitrant nations first in your Noble Crusade... get - say - Iran and Afghanistan - many African nations - China... Russia and so forth to accept your global rule of Capital City - then we can start on the 'easy' nations, eh?

99 Luftballons.... filled with Hot Air.  So governments are deluded in bringing in endless queues of non-residents/Outlanders etc to sustain 'growth' - and yet your concept will not be infinitely worse in having wide open gates, which apparently will have no effect on anything inside?  Perhaps you need to look at the concept of comparative growth/economic power and distribution of prosperity.

A Third World cesspot will not 'grow' substantially.... and yet you want to feed its people off the 'growth' and prosperity of others?

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Reply #94 - Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:32am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:09am:
Just accept that you will never dispose of 'national sovereignty' and move on. 


No way, just as Wilberforce never accepted slavery.

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We are not 'forced' to deal with the consequences of people forced to flee etc -


Hey ...do you look at the politics of the US-Mexican border, and Howard's 'people-overboard' Tampa controversy?

Of course not, your powers of analysis are flawed and inadequate, crippled by the Libertarian 'individual rights' ideology (exposed in the 'Delusions' thread).


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  what is at question here and now is the values applied on who gets in and who doesn't and on what basis.


No doubt; but refugees shouldn't be trying to get here in the first place; people don't want to leave their own countries if they can prosper at home. 

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Huge difference.  Australia could lock the gates tomorrow - no difference to how it's actually handled - but we have NO compulsion to take in anyone - it's a voluntary component of our (gasps) national sovereignty - the alternative is to be wide open to invasion from anyone and anywhere.


Stop and think why you gasped....international law with sustainable development in all nations would eliminate both "compulsory' and 'voluntary' immigration ie, vis a vis the nation taking in the forced immigrants/refugees. 

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I'd suggest you start with the more recalcitrant nations first in your Noble Crusade... get - say - Iran and Afghanistan - many African nations - China... Russia and so forth to accept your global rule of Capital City - then we can start on the 'easy' nations, eh?


The US, determined to maintain global hegemony, is the toughest nut of all to crack. It's the US who rejected Keynes' 'clearing union' concept at the end of WW2.

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99 Luftballons.... filled with Hot Air.  So governments are deluded in bringing in endless queues of non-residents/Outlanders etc to sustain 'growth'


Yes, 'continuous growth' is a one-way ticket to extinction, in a finite world.

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- and yet your concept will not be infinitely worse in having wide open gates, which apparently will have no effect on anything inside?


Hey I'm anti forced-mass-migration, remember.  

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Perhaps you need to look at the concept of comparative growth/economic power and distribution of prosperity.


I'm the one arguing for sustainable prosperity in all nations, remember...( and a JG in Oz...)

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A Third World cesspot will not 'grow' substantially.... and yet you want to feed its people off the 'growth' and prosperity of others?


See? your disgraceful theory that poverty cesspots have themselves to blame, while the Instant Misery Fund (IMF)  rips interest on unrepayable debt out of the 3rd world.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:32am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:09am:
Just accept that you will never dispose of 'national sovereignty' and move on. 


No way, just as Wilberforce never accepted slavery.

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We are not 'forced' to deal with the consequences of people forced to flee etc -


Hey ...do you look at the politics of the US-Mexican border, and Howard's 'people-overboard' Tampa controversy?

Of course not, your powers of analysis are flawed and inadequate, crippled by the Libertarian 'individual rights' ideology (exposed in the 'Delusions' thread).


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  what is at question here and now is the values applied on who gets in and who doesn't and on what basis.


No doubt; but refugees shouldn't be trying to get here in the first place; people don't want to leave their own countries if they can prosper at home. 

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Huge difference.  Australia could lock the gates tomorrow - no difference to how it's actually handled - but we have NO compulsion to take in anyone - it's a voluntary component of our (gasps) national sovereignty - the alternative is to be wide open to invasion from anyone and anywhere.


Stop and think why you gasped....international law with sustainable development in all nations would eliminate both "compulsory' and 'voluntary' immigration ie, vis a vis the nation taking in the forced immigrants/refugees. 

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I'd suggest you start with the more recalcitrant nations first in your Noble Crusade... get - say - Iran and Afghanistan - many African nations - China... Russia and so forth to accept your global rule of Capital City - then we can start on the 'easy' nations, eh?


The US, determined to maintain global hegemony, is the toughest nut of all to crack. It's the US who rejected Keynes' 'clearing union' concept at the end of WW2.

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99 Luftballons.... filled with Hot Air.  So governments are deluded in bringing in endless queues of non-residents/Outlanders etc to sustain 'growth'


Yes, 'continuous growth' is a one-way ticket to extinction, in a finite world.

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- and yet your concept will not be infinitely worse in having wide open gates, which apparently will have no effect on anything inside?


Hey I'm anti forced-mass-migration, remember.  

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Perhaps you need to look at the concept of comparative growth/economic power and distribution of prosperity.


I'm the one arguing for sustainable prosperity in all nations, remember...( and a JG in Oz...)

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A Third World cesspot will not 'grow' substantially.... and yet you want to feed its people off the 'growth' and prosperity of others?


See? your disgraceful theory that poverty cesspots have themselves to blame, while the Instant Misery Fund (IMF)  rips interest on unrepayable debt out of the 3rd world.




Absurdities all the way through... try again.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 2:26pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:32am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:09am:
Just accept that you will never dispose of 'national sovereignty' and move on. 


No way, just as Wilberforce never accepted slavery.

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We are not 'forced' to deal with the consequences of people forced to flee etc -


Hey ...do you look at the politics of the US-Mexican border, and Howard's 'people-overboard' Tampa controversy?

Of course not, your powers of analysis are flawed and inadequate, crippled by the Libertarian 'individual rights' ideology (exposed in the 'Delusions' thread).


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  what is at question here and now is the values applied on who gets in and who doesn't and on what basis.


No doubt; but refugees shouldn't be trying to get here in the first place; people don't want to leave their own countries if they can prosper at home. 

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Huge difference.  Australia could lock the gates tomorrow - no difference to how it's actually handled - but we have NO compulsion to take in anyone - it's a voluntary component of our (gasps) national sovereignty - the alternative is to be wide open to invasion from anyone and anywhere.


Stop and think why you gasped....international law with sustainable development in all nations would eliminate both "compulsory' and 'voluntary' immigration ie, vis a vis the nation taking in the forced immigrants/refugees. 

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I'd suggest you start with the more recalcitrant nations first in your Noble Crusade... get - say - Iran and Afghanistan - many African nations - China... Russia and so forth to accept your global rule of Capital City - then we can start on the 'easy' nations, eh?


The US, determined to maintain global hegemony, is the toughest nut of all to crack. It's the US who rejected Keynes' 'clearing union' concept at the end of WW2.

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99 Luftballons.... filled with Hot Air.  So governments are deluded in bringing in endless queues of non-residents/Outlanders etc to sustain 'growth'


Yes, 'continuous growth' is a one-way ticket to extinction, in a finite world.

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- and yet your concept will not be infinitely worse in having wide open gates, which apparently will have no effect on anything inside?


Hey I'm anti forced-mass-migration, remember.  

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Perhaps you need to look at the concept of comparative growth/economic power and distribution of prosperity.


I'm the one arguing for sustainable prosperity in all nations, remember...( and a JG in Oz...)

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A Third World cesspot will not 'grow' substantially.... and yet you want to feed its people off the 'growth' and prosperity of others?


See? your disgraceful theory that poverty cesspots have themselves to blame, while the Instant Misery Fund (IMF)  rips interest on unrepayable debt out of the 3rd world.




Absurdities all the way through... try again.


That's not debate; refute the points made. Hint: your delusional sovereignty of the individual ideology will render your analysis invalid every time.
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Time to put the plug in on immigration and start to nurture our own first and stop this insane artificial growth of a ridiculous housing scheme which is about the only game in town these days apart from Offshore Pirates robbing natural resources out of the ground and actually charging us to do it.

This country is full already and we don't need any more.... and while we're at it - let's use our national sovereignty as fully supported by the UN, and Reverse Boat People those who don't want to be a constructive part of the future of this nation.... head 'em up and move 'em out.... along with those who claim they are sovereign citizens of somewhere else here - some fairyland of the past... round 'em up and move 'em to a safe space.....  Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's - and unto Abo lore that which is Abo lore.... but when in Roma, don't shoot the cops....
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Time to put the plug in on immigration and start to nurture our own first and stop this insane artificial growth of a ridiculous housing scheme which is about the only game in town these days apart from Offshore Pirates robbing natural resources out of the ground and actually charging us to do it.


So far so good. Well done Smiley

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This country is full already and we don't need any more....
still correct...

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and while we're at it - let's use our national sovereignty as fully supported by the UN, and Reverse Boat People those who don't want to be a constructive part of the future of this nation....


oh dear, the errors are abounding now...

1. The UN is crippled by the obsolete concept of 'national sovereignty'

2. Boat people are a consequence of a failing global economic system which enriches rich nations at the expense of poor nations.

3. people denied above-poverty participation CANNOT  play a constructive role.

[ Note: Dreyfus denied police and army assistance for the current crime wave in the Alice, putting the responsibility back onto the N.T. which doesn't have the resources to deal with the problem. Pathetic; and ignoring the disastrous role of alcohol and unemployment]. 


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head 'em up and move 'em out.... along with those who claim they are sovereign citizens of somewhere else here - some fairyland of the past... round 'em up and move 'em to a safe space.....  Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's - and unto Abo lore that which is Abo lore.... but when in Roma, don't shoot the cops....


Note: not only blacks claim they are sovereign citizens - don't look in the mirror.
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An important piece of research released on Wednesday by the Australian Population Research Institute shows, says its author, demographer Katharine Betts, that “many Australians feel silenced and afraid to speak on some public matters … because they don’t want to be labelled as racist”.

Her conclusion is based on a detailed survey last year of more than 3000 Australians (weighted to be representative) who were asked: “Do you think that people who raise questions about immigration being too high are sometimes seen as racist?” Only 36 per cent said no and 13 per cent “don’t know”.

The 51 per cent who said yes were then asked to choose between two statements: “This is unfair because very few of them are racist”, to which 33 per cent of the overall sample agreed; or “This is because they usually are racist”, to which 19 per cent agreed.

Betts says this 19 per cent, whom she terms “guardians against racism”, who were disproportionately in favour of high immigration and felt disproportion­ately more free to talk about their views, tended to be “younger, better educated and more financially secure than other voters” and therefore had a “pervasive … role in keeping a lid on open debate”.

“Theirs is a moral position, not a material one” she says, and “because of this they are likely to see those who don’t share their position as morally suspect and to see their shaming as legitimate”.

These guardians against rac­ism, Betts says, have created a “censorious climate” that “mutes public discussion but seems not to have changed the opinions of the majority”.

Overall, 70 per cent thought Australia should have “somewhat lower”, “much lower” or “nil” levels of net migration. Yet thanks to her so-called guardians against racism, Betts thinks, this strong majority is rarely heard in public debate and has almost no impact on public policy.

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Katharine Betts, Free speech on immigration versus the guardians against racism
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Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:23am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.



We are talking about Australian immigration in this thread, silly parrot.
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Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:23am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.



We are talking about Australian immigration in this thread, silly parrot.
Federal Politics board.


ie, including  the people locked up on Manus Is. , awaitng cofirmation of their status re setting in Oz?
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 2:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:23am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.



We are talking about Australian immigration in this thread, silly parrot.
Federal Politics board.


ie, including  the people locked up on Manus Is. , awaitng cofirmation of their status re setting in Oz?

No. Those are illegal would-be queue jumpers who were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and learn.

They are not locked up on Manus Island, they are free to go wherever they want to go, China,  Vietnam, Japan, India, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, anywhere.
Just not Australia.


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Reply #104 - Jul 27th, 2023 at 3:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 3:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 2:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:23am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.



We are talking about Australian immigration in this thread, silly parrot.
Federal Politics board.


ie, including  the people locked up on Manus Is. , awaitng cofirmation of their status re setting in Oz?

No. Those are illegal would-be queue jumpers who were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and learn.


If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern.

Quote:
They are not locked up on Manus Island, they are free to go wherever they want to go, China,  Vietnam, Japan, India, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, anywhere.
Just not Australia.



Why not? Both political parties have an idiotic 'big Australia' policy, courtesy of flawed neoclassical "continuous gowth" ideology.
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Reply #105 - Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 3:56pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 3:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 2:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:23am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 11:17am:
It’s not racist to debate immigration levels


Of course not.

But it is ignorant not to consider the causes of the refugee crises around the world.

Building walls is not the answer.



We are talking about Australian immigration in this thread, silly parrot.
Federal Politics board.


ie, including  the people locked up on Manus Is. , awaitng cofirmation of their status re setting in Oz?

No. Those are illegal would-be queue jumpers who were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and learn.


If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern.

Quote:
They are not locked up on Manus Island, they are free to go wherever they want to go, China,  Vietnam, Japan, India, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, anywhere.
Just not Australia.



Why not? Both political parties have an idiotic 'big Australia' policy, courtesy of flawed neoclassical "continuous gowth" ideology.


Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.

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Reply #106 - Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...

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Reply #107 - Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.
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Reply #108 - Jul 27th, 2023 at 5:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.


They PAID the people smugglers; obviously they didn't like their chances in the $2k per capita GDP Indonesian  job market.

Quote:
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.


Is it any more illegal to enter France than the UK?

Meanwhile Greece and Italy are bearing the brunt of the refugee crisis. 

Quote:
Tellembuggerem.


Of course YOU aren't interested in solving the global refugee crisis.


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Quote:
But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?







They are not even the lowest. 
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Reply #110 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:13am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats.


They don't all get fox news in buggeroffistan
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Reply #111 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.
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Reply #112 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.
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Reply #113 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:20am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Just when i think you couldn't be more out of touch with reality ....
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Reply #114 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:26am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.



So why fly there, on commercial flights? Because it is a Muslim country, corrupt like the rest of them, and complicit in the people smuggling business.
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Reply #115 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:39am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:26am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.



So why fly there, on commercial flights? Because it is a Muslim country, corrupt like the rest of them, and complicit in the people smuggling business.


Mostly old boy, they don't fly there. An if they do, so what? It's a step away from death.
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Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
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The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?
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Reply #118 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:58am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:26am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.



So why fly there, on commercial flights? Because it is a Muslim country, corrupt like the rest of them, and complicit in the people smuggling business.


You’re wasting your time. Manic Methra has been online all night again. IT’S IMPLODING now.
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Reply #119 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:58am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:39am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:26am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.



So why fly there, on commercial flights? Because it is a Muslim country, corrupt like the rest of them, and complicit in the people smuggling business.


Mostly old boy, they don't fly there. An if they do, so what? It's a step away from death.

Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be an idiot. Of course they fly there. Do you think they drive from Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan to Labuhan, West Java and other Indonesian ports???

So what? So they are lying to the Indonesia (which is happy to take their bribes) and lying to Australia (which isn't).
So there is lying at the heart of the matter, from the get-go.


PNG, Solom Islands, Philipines, Timor Leste - just as far from the Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan as Indonesia, all signatories to the Refugee convention.
Why don't they make their ways to any of those countries?


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The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


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Reply #121 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.
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Reply #122 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:58am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:39am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:26am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:19am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:16am:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

Tellembuggerem.


Indonesia??? People GO THERE for holidays.



Why does this point keep needing to be made? After all these years?

Indonesia is  not a signatory to the UN convention we are signatory to. They offer no assistance and no protection.

We are supposed to do better.  We promised to.

This is, of course, all lost on you.



So why fly there, on commercial flights? Because it is a Muslim country, corrupt like the rest of them, and complicit in the people smuggling business.


Mostly old boy, they don't fly there. An if they do, so what? It's a step away from death.

Cheesy Cheesy

Don't be an idiot. Of course they fly there. Do you think they drive from Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan to Labuhan, West Java and other Indonesian ports???

So what? So they are lying to the Indonesia (which is happy to take their bribes) and lying to Australia (which isn't).
So there is lying at the heart of the matter, from the get-go.


PNG, Solom Islands, Philipines, Timor Leste - just as far from the Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan as Indonesia, all signatories to the Refugee convention.
Why don't they make their ways to any of those countries?





Would you care to reword that and remove the spittle so it makes seense?

Who precisely are you claiming are signatories to the UN convention on refugees? And what is it that these countries have to offer refugees?

Why do you resent them coming here so much?

You must know by know it;s a tiny fraction of out immigration "budget" and almost all of them turn out to be bona fide refugees.

Too tinted for you, i expect. Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?
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Reply #123 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.
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Reply #124 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:08am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.



Of course. Because people fleeing for their lives are always on the look out for a good holiday deal.

I mean there's stupid and then ....
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Reply #125 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:11am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.


In fact lots of Aussies fly over there for their holidays. A very popular place indeed. Very friendly too.
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Reply #126 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:14am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:11am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.


In fact lots of Aussies fly over there for their holidays. A very popular place indeed. Very friendly too.


Does Indonesia allow refugees to settle there, Larry?

Is it a signatory to the Geneva Convention on refugees and asylum seekers, Larry?
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Reply #127 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:19am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:28pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2023 at 4:00pm:
Why not???
They were told, loud and clear, not to try to come on people smuggler boats. Buf they were like you: couldn't listen and comprehend.


Did you miss it?

"If you are escaping a failed state - failed because of your vicious 'survival of the fittest' ideology unfolding on a global scale - listening and learning might not be your prime concern".

Hmm...blind ideology might have prevented you from seeing it...


None of them were escaping from Indonesia, not a failed state but a safe country from which all THEN were unsuccessfuloy smuggled by criminals.
Escaping a failed state to a safe country is ok. But it does not give you the right to then illegally enter a third country and demand to be settle there.
Look what's  happening across the English Chanel. Those hordes are not Frenchies escaping the horrors of the Islamification of France, either.

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Reply #128 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:24am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am:
Would you care to reword that and remove the spittle so it makes seense?

Who precisely are you claiming are signatories to the UN convention on refugees? And what is it that these countries have to offer refugees?

Why do you resent them coming here so much?

You must know by know it;s a tiny fraction of out immigration "budget" and almost all of them turn out to be bona fide refugees.

Too tinted for you, i expect. Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?

PNG, Timor Leste, Solomon Islands, Philippines - all signatories to the Refugee convention.
What they have to offer to refugees is a lot more than countries that are not signatories, like Indonesia, Malaysia.

It is not about resentment.

The 'tiny fraction' is a huge lie. In 2012 there were 17,000, in 2013 - 13,000.

Being undocumented, they were given the benefit of the doubt. Being undocumented, they cannot prove their bona fides by definition.
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Reply #129 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:31am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:24am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am:
Would you care to reword that and remove the spittle so it makes seense?

Who precisely are you claiming are signatories to the UN convention on refugees? And what is it that these countries have to offer refugees?

Why do you resent them coming here so much?

You must know by know it;s a tiny fraction of out immigration "budget" and almost all of them turn out to be bona fide refugees.

Too tinted for you, i expect. Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?

PNG, Timor Leste, Solomon Islands, Philippines - all signatories to the Refugee convention.
What they have to offer to refugees is a lot more than countries that are not signatories, like Indonesia, Malaysia.

It is not about resentment.

The 'tiny fraction' is a huge lie. In 2012 there were 17,000, in 2013 - 13,000.

Being undocumented, they were given the benefit of the doubt. Being undocumented, they cannot prove their bona fides by definition.


They were NEVER given the benefit of the doubt. They were grilled. You absolute liar.

And all this is a decade old?

How about now, Fruitbat?


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Reply #130 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:37am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:24am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am:
Would you care to reword that and remove the spittle so it makes seense?

Who precisely are you claiming are signatories to the UN convention on refugees? And what is it that these countries have to offer refugees?

Why do you resent them coming here so much?

You must know by know it;s a tiny fraction of out immigration "budget" and almost all of them turn out to be bona fide refugees.

Too tinted for you, i expect. Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?

PNG, Timor Leste, Solomon Islands, Philippines - all signatories to the Refugee convention.
What they have to offer to refugees is a lot more than countries that are not signatories, like Indonesia, Malaysia.

It is not about resentment.

The 'tiny fraction' is a huge lie. In 2012 there were 17,000, in 2013 - 13,000.

Being undocumented, they were given the benefit of the doubt. Being undocumented, they cannot prove their bona fides by definition.


Just a heads up! You’re wasting your time with a manic depressive 60 yr old fat, stumpy unemployed/unemployable cyber junkie troll who takes drugs and doesn’t sleep and who hasn’t logged off in over 24 hrs.





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Reply #131 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:38am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.


Only with bogans because it's so cheap.  I wouldn't go to Bali and surrounds if I was given a free ticket.
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Reply #132 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:40am
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:38am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.


Only with bogans because it's so cheap.  I wouldn't go to Bali and surrounds if I was given a free ticket.


Oh I agree! Yet Aussies GO THERE!
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Reply #133 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:53am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:40am:
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:38am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:05am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:59am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:50am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Why does THIS point keep needing to be made?

Article 31 (of the UNHCR Convention)

Refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened
in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.


I'm sorry, what are you arguing here?

That we're right to lock them up indefinitely?

They are not locked up on Manus Island or Chrismas Island.


Meantime and more importantly - Indonesia is a popular holiday destination.


Only with bogans because it's so cheap.  I wouldn't go to Bali and surrounds if I was given a free ticket.


Oh I agree! Yet Aussies GO THERE!



Because refugees notoriously land in resorts with their tabs paid. Of course.

You're on a roll today, Larry.

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Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. Thousands more are coming constantly.

From France. Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.
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Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:09am:
Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
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But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?







They are not even the lowest. 
https://www.courseseeker.edu.au/courses



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But of course you didn't notice #108 immedialey prior, because your blind survival of the fittest ideology  makes you as blind as Frank. ....you aren't interested in solving the global refugee crisis, only in telling people to stay out of the country until they are asked.
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Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).
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Reply #137 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:11pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:31am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:24am:
mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am:
Would you care to reword that and remove the spittle so it makes seense?

Who precisely are you claiming are signatories to the UN convention on refugees? And what is it that these countries have to offer refugees?

Why do you resent them coming here so much?

You must know by know it;s a tiny fraction of out immigration "budget" and almost all of them turn out to be bona fide refugees.

Too tinted for you, i expect. Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?

PNG, Timor Leste, Solomon Islands, Philippines - all signatories to the Refugee convention.
What they have to offer to refugees is a lot more than countries that are not signatories, like Indonesia, Malaysia.

It is not about resentment.

The 'tiny fraction' is a huge lie. In 2012 there were 17,000, in 2013 - 13,000.

Being undocumented, they were given the benefit of the doubt. Being undocumented, they cannot prove their bona fides by definition.


They were NEVER given the benefit of the doubt. They were grilled. You absolute liar.

And all this is a decade old?

How about now, Fruitbat?



The boats were stopped.
Now they are lying their way directly into the country and claim asylum after they promised that they only wanted to come to study or as tourists.



The monthly statistics reveal that over 30,000 people are still waiting for decisions. Even more people are still in the country awaiting deportation after a negative decision.
https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/asylum-community/5/


As at December 2022, a total of 70,564 failed asylum seekers remained in Australia. Of them, 38,919 were awaiting an appeal decision at AAT, while others (the number of which is unspecified) were awaiting a judicial review. Some (also an unspecified amount) were granted bridging visas, typically on the basis that they are required to depart Australia as soon as possible.

The number of failed asylum seekers remaining in Australia has steadily increased, as has the AAT backlog in hearing their appeals. In comparison with the recent figures, in December 2019 there were 46,356 failed asylum seekers in Australia, 25,098 of whom were engaged in the AAT process.
https://www.asyluminsight.com/when-a-claim-for-asylum-is-unsuccessful

There are a “record” 100,000 people who have sought asylum onshore who remain in Australia including 72,875 whose claims were refused who are yet to be deported.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/20/record-100000-people-seek...
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Reply #138 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


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Reply #139 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:32pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:42am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 8:09am:
Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 3rd, 2022 at 11:09am:
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But university is (or should be) demanding. So to make is 'accessible' they dumbed most uni courses down to the level where you can enrol in a teaching degree with an ATAR of 36 (Federation Uni). Social Work (Disability) 45.  A third to half of these low ability students drop out after a year or two


Frank - those figures can't be right. 36?? 45?? Who would get such a ridiculously low ATAR in the first place?







They are not even the lowest. 
https://www.courseseeker.edu.au/courses



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But of course you didn't...


Neither did you.
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Reply #140 - Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????



They’re probably escaping from the Eiffel Tower 😂🤣😆

Very soon we’ll be swamped with refugees from the Riviera! Or even Monaco!

The tosspottery demonstrated by NotSoGreat has reached PhD level 😂🤣😆
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Reply #141 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

Quote:
Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 

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Reply #142 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:27am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

Quote:
Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 



You are an idiot and don't  know what you are talking about. As usual.  You are now trying to normalise illegal third worlderslike you invading Europe and then illegally flooding into the UK - to work!  Cheesy You are out of your monomaniac little birdbarain, parrot.
They are not working in the UK, they are sitting in hotels, paid for by everyone's best friend the taxpayer,  complaining about slow wifi and not enough cash.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


There's no queue to jump.

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Reply #144 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 12:58pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:27am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 



You are an idiot and don't  know what you are talking about. As usual. 


So, having got that off your chest, let's see what you got....

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You are now trying to normalise illegal third worlderslike you invading Europe and then illegally flooding into the UK - to work! 


(Oh my god...the perils of debating blind conservative ideologues):

I am arguing against the global financial system which is creating failed states.

Got it? (cough...).

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Cheesy You are out of your monomaniac little birdbarain, parrot.


Actually, Julie Bishop made me smile in her NPC speech the other day, when she said (to a question about AUKUS)  "perhaps Doc Evatt was right: the veto should have been kept out of the UNSC...."

(She noted, as foreign minister,  she had an excellent friendly working relationship with her Chinese counterpart).

So you see, I'm at least a bi-maniac bird-brain... I accept your concession.

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They are not working in the UK, they are sitting in hotels, paid for by everyone's best friend the taxpayer,  complaining about slow wifi and not enough cash.
 

See how your blind ideology results in GIGO?

They would much rather be gainfully employed in their own countries. 
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... must be placed on a moratorium immediately and the country stabilised, and then must be strictly controlled.  This madness to import millions of people and make them near instant citizens when they know nothing about the place is way out of control.

Once the country is stable again and its people once again have a fair chance of prospering through work, then we can consider how many and who we want.

Julie Bishop has always made me smile before I laugh.... another empty cypher.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 5:45pm:
... must be placed on a moratorium immediately and the country stabilised, and then must be strictly controlled.  This madness to import millions of people and make them near instant citizens when they know nothing about the place is way out of control.


Agreed. Meanwhile the world - driven by individual self-interest - is imploding around us.

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A fair chance is impossible with the current RBA ideology: the least able are 'dole fodder',  just as the least decorated are 'cannon fodder', in war.   

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It seems she is quite the humanitarian humanist, these days.

Predatory  journalists were inviting her to say why we shoiuld go to war over Taiwan, but she cautioned against beating that drum. 
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mothra wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 9:04am:
Coming from countries where colonialism ended to soon, eh old boy?



Precisely. It is not a new problem


He/Evelyn Waugh's Black Mischief is a great literary example of the minds of the too-soon-independent barbarians and the too-soon-releasing colonisers who lost their nerves and sight of their civilising task.

Listen to the first few minutes and see if you will not want to hear or read it all. It is hilarious and very, very good. Waugh was a master.

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Reply #148 - Jul 31st, 2023 at 9:52pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 



France (according to you NotSoGreatOrSane) ... is already full. Full of what exactly? French people ??
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Reply #149 - Aug 1st, 2023 at 12:02am
 
Cultural enrichment in Oslo.

https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1685434974877646848

Making Norway vibrant by one African at a time.

...


Ireland needs this cultural vibrancy.

https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1685395788720140288


There is nothing sinister about Muslim immigrants. They just want to invade and replace you.

https://twitter.com/venkatesh_Ragu/status/1562275222157344769
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As a farmer with firm boundaries
Immigration has always seemed a no-brainer

You bring onto your property
Sentient beings
Which add value to the operation of said property

I'm sure America and Russia benefited greatly from the migration of hyper intelligent German engineers at the end of World war 2

Australia should have been in there trying to secure such valuable stock

Now we have a lot of tech entrepreneur fleeing silicon valley and Australia once again could be enticing these people down under

We can have amazing pastry chef from Vietnam
The best sushi chefs from Japan
Skilled fisherman from the Philippines
Engineers from Germany and Scandinavia
Amazing footballers from New Zealand
Wonderful lumberjacks from Canada

The world is our oyster and we should be actively encouraging the best of the best
To come here and help us in rich our country

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aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2023 at 7:43am:
The world is our oyster and we should be actively encouraging the best of the best
To come here and help us in rich our country

The superior man always tries to find an equivalent peer group of awesome overachievers


Your "superior man" being a predatory thug, ensuring the economic collapse of the states from which he is stealing the world's best local talent.

How's that wall going, to keep out the refugees fleeing all those failed states?
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Lisa's still here?....nothing to say re my post to the oafish thug aquascoot?

As for France, it's full of immigrants, given its current high unemployment rates compared to th UK.....

And what were you saying about immigration and house prices, in Oz?
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Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:27am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 11:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 12:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 11:58am:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2023 at 10:12am:
Thousands of "refugees" in England are housed in hotels at public expense. .


Why the quotation marks? The proxy war in Syria, and entrenched poverty and wars elsewhere creates refugees.

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Thousands more are coming constantlyFrom France Illegally. They are not French, fleeing the political terror of France or Italy or Spain.  No. They are like the illegal queue jumpers who were coming from Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc to Australia via corrupt Indonesia and Malaysia.


"Illegal queue jumpers" (note the quotation marks correctly applied) escaping a vicious global IMF debt-based financial system, enforced by the US in 1946 even though Keynes offered a new system which would have avoided the subsequent catastrophes. (See Keynes' proposed 'clearing union' concept).


Are they escaping from FRANCE????


They are escaping from failed states, courtesy of your vicious global financial system.

As for France, it's already full, and the unemployment rate is double the UK's; simple calculation of one's chances points to the need to move further afield (across the Channel). 



You are an idiot and don't  know what you are talking about. As usual.  You are now trying to normalise illegal third worlderslike you invading Europe and then illegally flooding into the UK - to work!  Cheesy You are out of your monomaniac little birdbarain, parrot.
They are not working in the UK, they are sitting in hotels, paid for by everyone's best friend the taxpayer,  complaining about slow wifi and not enough cash.




They should come down here, old boy. We have some paint-dryingly slow wifi speeds to complain about here in jolly old Oz.

It's a pity we don't have more Anglophilic King Cnut-types to moan about it some more. They prefer to complain about the tinted races, you see.

We keep telling them, dear, but Rome wasn't built in a day. They say, oh ja, but colonialism ended far too soon.
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Reply #154 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am
 
You may have read about the migrant crisis engulfing the small Italian island of Lampedusa. Ten thousand uninvited arrivals reached its shores in one week, eventually to be relocated elsewhere in the EU.

Needless to say, 10,000 in one week sounds an awful lot but here’s the thing: in Australia there are now more than 10,000 migrants arriving by plane each week.

To be sure, they are coming here on visas, but the intention of many is to stay, at least for as long as possible. Close to 100,000 recent arrivals have now applied for humanitarian visas, which will involve many years of assessments and appeals.

According to the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, net overseas migration (long-term arrivals minus long-term departures) reached 454,000 in the year ending March this year.

The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.
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Reply #155 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:47am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2023 at 11:36am:
Lisa's still here?....nothing to say re my post to the oafish thug aquascoot?

As for France, it's full of immigrants, given its current high unemployment rates compared to th UK.....

And what were you saying about immigration and house prices, in Oz?


I have told you twice now that you may only post to me under your Linus ID. And you can cease and desist with your pathetic tosspot denials about that too. Now piss off!
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Reply #156 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 9:18am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am:
The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.


Shouldn't take too long for these student numbers to drop off again when enough of them realise and spread the word back home that if they come to Australia there isn't anywhere affordable (or anywhere at all in a lot of places around the country) for them to stay once they get here.

I've already read a couple of stories in our local paper over the past few months about students not being told about how bad the rental situation is here before they arrive and other stories of half a dozen or more students sharing rental accomodations when they can actually find one.

In the meantime, the only thing our governments, universities and airlines, etc. are interested in is short term profits. Just like everyone else these days.
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The statistics are stunning. Nearly 30 per cent of Australia’s population is now foreign-born, while Greater Sydney and Melbourne now boast a foreign-born population of around 45 per cent. According to data conducted by NSW Parliament, some electorates of Sydney saw a 79 per cent change in their foreign-born population in the last four years, with some suburbs, including the electorate of Sydney, well on their way towards being majority foreigners. Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has previously boasted that Australia is ‘the world’s most successful multicultural country’, yet one wonders how long that will last. A recent spate of violent inter-ethnic attacks, robberies, and killings threatens this harmony.

Moreover, ‘White flight’ is a touchy term that many would call a dog whistle, but as data found in 2018 by The Australian found, the truth is that it’s a statistical reality. In 2016, suburbs in Western Sydney witnessed a mass exodus of locals – typically Anglo-Saxon Australians – while at the same time receiving massive inflows of migrant arrivals. This means that with immigration ramped up to record highs, we might now see the same happen not just in other Sydney suburbs, but in Sydney itself. Note that last year 121,000 New South Welshmen left the state, with most moving to Queensland.

Witnessing the dramatic change of the neighbourhood you grew up in is now a common story for many Australians, old and young. The once-homogenous area my father grew up in is now over 60 per cent foreign-born, with above-average crime rates and poverty.


Many will argue that having a majority foreign-born population is not necessarily a bad thing. But nobody to date has bothered to argue why exactly it’s a good thing either. The question of ‘how does this policy outcome benefit Australians?’ was never really answered. It kind of just happened, without a single word of discussion – as if it were an act of nature, and not a direct result of, government policy. The only words ever spoken about the matter are those from people like Immigration Minister Andrew Giles, who kept repeating the same old mantra of our times, that ‘diversity is our greatest strength’.

Entire suburbs and cities of Australia have now had their composition radically changed. Yet it is deeply unfashionable to discuss such changes – unless, of course, you’re promoting it. ‘A great strength for Australian society…’ Multicultural leaders praise nation’s growing diversity’ headlines a recent publicly-funded SBS article.

And it isn’t just the social changes from immigration putting pressure on Australia, it’s the economy too.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/we-need-a-voice-on-immigration-conservative...
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Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 6:02pm:
And it isn’t just the social changes from immigration putting pressure on Australia, it’s the economy too.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/we-need-a-voice-on-immigration-conservative...


You're not kidding. Public infrastructure hasn't kept pace with immigration rates, because  mainstream economists have supported Thatcherite "small government" economic ideology.   

Note: government-own infrastructure, including desalinated water powered by nuclear plants - limited only by resources and know-how  - NOT debt (because the Fed. govt. is a currency-issuer) - would enable new cities to be built in inland Oz, eliminating the congestion and crowding out of anglo-saxons in the present capital cities. 

Note: Oz is the c. the same area as the US, with less than 10% of the population...see the problem?

In the meantime, orthodox economists in charge of the GLOBAL financial system are responsible for the current refugee crisis enveloping the world. 

Countries which eliminate poverty  see their birth rates fall (as individuals try to improve their standard of living); but the US stooge IMF ('Instant Misery Fund) - a hang-over from the post WW2 Bretton Woods agreement  designed to maintain US hegemony - is responsible for ever-increasing indebtedness and 'austerity' in the 3rd world.

Of course the 'unending growth' nonsense is also supported by orthodox economists.
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Reply #159 - Sep 26th, 2023 at 7:18pm
 
Carl D wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 9:18am:
Frank wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:38am:
The largest component is student arrivals. The annual increase in Australia’s population was a massive 563,000 people or 2.2 per cent. The NOM made up 80 per cent of the increase. Most new migr­ants head for Melbourne or Sydney.


Shouldn't take too long for these student numbers to drop off again when enough of them realise and spread the word back home that if they come to Australia there isn't anywhere affordable (or anywhere at all in a lot of places around the country) for them to stay once they get here.

I've already read a couple of stories in our local paper over the past few months about students not being told about how bad the rental situation is here before they arrive and other stories of half a dozen or more students sharing rental accomodations when they can actually find one.

In the meantime, the only thing our governments, universities and airlines, etc. are interested in is short term profits. Just like everyone else these days.


Carl

These overseas students CAN afford it.

They are not here just to study. They are here to migrate. Studying is part of that immigration process.
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The number of Indian-born people living in Australia has more than doubled in the last decade to over 750,000, pushing India above China and New Zealand as the second-biggest country of ­origin for overseas-born, behind only England.
And those born in Nepal now living in Australia are the fastest growing cohort, increasing from 30,000 to over 150,000 since 2012, new Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows. Almost as many Nepalese people as Italians now live in Australia.

Western Australia has the largest proportion of overseas-born residents among states and territories at 34 per cent, the ABS data finds, with Tasmania the lowest at 16 per cent, but the Apple Isle has the fastest growing cohort of overseas-born in the last five years.

The ABS Australia’s Population by Country of Birth report shows 155,000 overseas-born were added to the Australian population in 2022, taking it to 29.5 per cent of the total, or almost three in every 10 people. Total overseas-born now sits at 7.7 million out of the 26 million population. By international standards, Australia has a high proportion of overseas-born residents, with the US at 15.3 per cent, Canada at 21.3 per cent, France at 13.1 per cent and the UK at 13.8 per cent.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/india-and-nepal-big-movers-among-oversea...

When, if ever, will Indians, Nepalese, Chinese be Australians? When will they regard EACH OTHER as Australians?



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When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Going by your character, you aren't Australian.
You're more like a Libyan during the Gaddafi era.
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


A Dane gave you the Sydney Opera House, cockwomble.

You parochial Irish yokels ****ed it up. It was too good for your narrow, bogged 'minds' so you **** it up and made it parochial and small like your worm-eaten idiotic minds.

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Frank wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 6:59pm:
The number of Indian-born people living in Australia has more than doubled in the last decade to over 750,000, pushing India above China and New Zealand as the second-biggest country of ­origin for overseas-born, behind only England.
And those born in Nepal now living in Australia are the fastest growing cohort, increasing from 30,000 to over 150,000 since 2012, new Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows. Almost as many Nepalese people as Italians now live in Australia.

Western Australia has the largest proportion of overseas-born residents among states and territories at 34 per cent, the ABS data finds, with Tasmania the lowest at 16 per cent, but the Apple Isle has the fastest growing cohort of overseas-born in the last five years.

The ABS Australia’s Population by Country of Birth report shows 155,000 overseas-born were added to the Australian population in 2022, taking it to 29.5 per cent of the total, or almost three in every 10 people. Total overseas-born now sits at 7.7 million out of the 26 million population. By international standards, Australia has a high proportion of overseas-born residents, with the US at 15.3 per cent, Canada at 21.3 per cent, France at 13.1 per cent and the UK at 13.8 per cent.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/india-and-nepal-big-movers-among-oversea...

When, if ever, will Indians, Nepalese, Chinese be Australians? When will they regard EACH OTHER as Australians?


You are obviously ignorant and don't know what an Australian is. According to the official definition
every Australian citizen, regardless of their race or ethnicity, is considered an Australian.
If you're Australian, you should know that, right?
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Chinese can't be. Dictator Xi the Great says all Chinese in the world must remain as Chinese citizens.  It's a race supremacy idea.
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You are obviously ignorant and don't know what an Australian is



Frank is an import himself, he's also a hypocrite and an idiot.
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Reply #168 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 12:25pm
 
chimera wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 11:56am:
Chinese can't be. Dictator Xi the Great says all Chinese in the world must remain as Chinese citizens.  It's a race supremacy idea.


well....XI is concerned to protect chinese socialism from blind 'freedom' ideologues (chinese or otherwise), wherever they are.

not so much a race thing, as an economic ideology to implement 'common prosperity', as part of lifting an entire nation out of agricultural subsistence and poverty.

compare the results with India's "freedom' ideology and 'democracy'.   
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Reply #169 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 12:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 8:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


A Dane gave you the Sydney Opera House, cockwomble.


Wasn't that a mistake, too?  He never finished the damn thing.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Quote:
You parochial Irish yokels ****ed it up. It was too good for your narrow, bogged 'minds' so you **** it up and made it parochial and small like your worm-eaten idiotic minds.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, more ad huminem insults, Soren?  Is that the best you can do?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, American images.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Stupidity and greed are a bad combination. Think Al Capone. Think Alan Bond. Think Australia’s elite universities.

The latter dynamited our university system by mainlining on lucrative international students, who disappeared with Covid. Now they are at it again. Overseas students are being mustered like brumbies and every reform is resisted like poison. Overwhelmingly, international students enrol in big brands such as the University of Sydney and the Australian National University. It is not about good education, just the right rubber stamp. It is like a cattle market where the cows are lured, not herded.

Cattle is the right expression.For universities such as those in the Group of Eight, international students are cash cows. They are there for their high fees, not their education and wellbeing. So well-heeled institutions have ruthlessly stockpiled these students. Their great educational qualification is that they are just so much more fiscally winsome than low-paying Australians whose fees are set by government.

The greed of elite institutions has no cap. Before Covid, ANU had almost 50 per cent international students. Competitors such as Sydney and Monash were around 40 per cent. Particularly valuable are well-heeled Chinese students. As one former sandstone vice-chancellor exulted in an academic group, they would keep enrolling wealthy Chinese until someone stopped him.

Despite the lesson of Covid that the tap suddenly can be turned off, these guys are gorging like wolverines. They want to match or exceed pre-Covid heights. Like the Bourbon kings, they have learned nothing and forgotten nothing. They certainly do not remember the disaster of Covid when their entire business model collapsed.

Then, Go8 vice-chancellors were wringing their hands and pressuring governments to restart international students, virus-ridden or not. They still refuse to accept that their cash mules are inherently vulnerable. Another virus, a more hostile China banning Australian students or a major shift in student demand would leave the Universities of Pride high and dry again.

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The public goods sacrificed in this unequal exchange are enormous. International students are short-changed. Australian students discounted. Regional universities gazumped. Sectoral diversity discouraged.

Now, the enrolment guzzlers are opposing every possible reform. They put the rent back into rent seekers. A first proposal was for a percentage cap on international enrolments at any given institution Hysterics, tantrums and vapours ensued, and the idea was washed away in a flood of crocodile tears about discrimination against international students.
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For those who adulate established universities over “lower quality” institutions, think of this. Which universities have devalued freedom of speech; peddled postmodernism; dissed Western civilisation; minimised anti-Semitism; and genuflected to Trotskyist student unions?

Greed may be good but it is never good education policy.

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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yet when it comes to muslims and multiculturalism they are all equal Australians whether they assimilate or are terrorists according to you.

And when it comes to Aboriginals you want them on a pedestal, in control of the 97% and divided from the rest of Australia.

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JC Denton wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 1:37pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, American images.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


what

its the movie scarface you idiot

its a meme
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Reply #175 - Nov 2nd, 2023 at 2:57pm
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1st, 2023 at 7:50pm:
When will Danes consider themselves Australian?  Remember, you flew here, I was born here.  I have more right to call myself Australian compared to you, Soren.  When you abandon your high flying regard for yourself and join will all us Australians you might have a point in your arguments.  Until then, you're just fiddling in the wing, boyo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yet when it comes to muslims and multiculturalism they are all equal Australians whether they assimilate or are terrorists according to you.

And when it comes to Aboriginals you want them on a pedestal, in control of the 97% and divided from the rest of Australia.

You seem very confused Brian, or is it Matty?

Brian is 'the' Matty Dumpster Diver.
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Pat Condell @patcondell

This is the video YouTube took seven years to uncensor. Over a million views. Subtitled in nineteen languages. Sad to say the optimistic note at the end about democracy saving us was misplaced. Now I think widespread urban warfare is more likely.

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You can't make this up: The Pakistani prime minister of Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, Hamza "Bbwian Rwoss or is it wee paki karnal" Yousaf, complains that there are too many white people in Scotland 🤣


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Chinese can't be. Dictator Xi the Great says all Chinese in the world must remain as Chinese citizens.  It's a race supremacy idea.


The problem is that in Australia Anglos consider themselves more Australians than others because Australia is de facto still a British colony.
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chimera wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 11:56am:
Chinese can't be. Dictator Xi the Great says all Chinese in the world must remain as Chinese citizens.  It's a race supremacy idea.


The problem is that in Australia Anglos consider themselves more Australians than others because Australia is de facto still a British colony.
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DERIVED from a British colony beginning.
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Australia was built on immigration....Perhaps those opposing immigration who are not of Aboriginal decent should leave Australia now to be consistant with your values....Or is it only certain immigrants you oppose???

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Australia was built on immigration....Perhaps those opposing immigration who are not of Aboriginal decent should leave Australia now to be consistant with your values....Or is it only certain immigrants you oppose???

Huh Huh Huh



Yeah. Certain immigrants and certain numbers.

Dozens of Afghans deported by Pakistan authorities
The crackdown on undocumented migrants mostly affecting some two million Afghans living in Pakistan without papers.



No good?

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Danes, definitely Danes, with their supposedly superior Viking blood who flew here, they are the worst of the worst with their judgemental attitudes, lording over Australians because of their efforts with the Sydney Opera house, and it's designer never even finished the ugly bloody building!  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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We need to cut immigration to sustainable levels.

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Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 3:15pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 3:10pm:
Australia was built on immigration....Perhaps those opposing immigration who are not of Aboriginal decent should leave Australia now to be consistant with your values....Or is it only certain immigrants you oppose???

Huh Huh Huh



Yeah. Certain immigrants and certain numbers.

Dozens of Afghans deported by Pakistan authorities
The crackdown on undocumented migrants mostly affecting some two million Afghans living in Pakistan without papers.



No good?




‘Where do I go back to?’: Expelled Afghans battle chaos at Pakistan border
Nearly 1.7 million undocumented Afghans ordered to leave the country by Wednesday as ‘holding centres’ are set up across the country.


When Muslim and multicultural pieties clash. Muslims don't want their brethren, not from TellyTalibland, not from Palliwood, not from Bangled-dash, not from nowhere. "Infidel white man, help!" (Again and again and again). Allahu Akhbar!


Or as the Sufi poets chanted,

Ummah, ummah,
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 3:26pm:
Danes, definitely Danes, with their supposedly superior Viking blood who flew here, they are the worst of the worst with their judgemental attitudes, lording over Australians because of their efforts with the Sydney Opera house, and it's designer never even finished the ugly bloody building!  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



All the Danes? Even the "vast majority, ordinary, law abiding" Danes??  Or just the 'tiny minority'?  Cry Cry

"How many Danes have you actually met, Pecksniff?" You love to hide behind that question when it comes to the sons of Mohammed. C'mon, xenophobic old dribbles, how many Danes, Swedes or Norwegians do you know? Finns?  Cheesy Cheesy


And anyway, how do YOU tell Danes - and all those Scandinavian 'First Nations -  apart, laughable cockwomble? Don't they all look and sound the same??? Fair, lovely, civilised, humane?


You are the ready, living, wheezing parody of all the Bbwianesque ijits , Bbwian. You have become a byword. Your greatest achievement. Turd, paki, mother, thicko salute you. Your life, finally, means something: Bbwianesque.

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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:33pm:
JC Denton wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 9:22am:


We need to cut immigration to sustainable levels.


And what is, your opinion, on a "sustainable level", Baron? How many Muslims will you allow to enter?  How many Danes?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 3:26pm:
Danes, definitely Danes, with their supposedly superior Viking blood who flew here, they are the worst of the worst with their judgemental attitudes, lording over Australians because of their efforts with the Sydney Opera house, and it's designer never even finished the ugly bloody building!  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



All the Danes? Even the "vast majority, ordinary, law abiding" Danes??  Or just the 'tiny minority'?  Cry Cry

"How many Danes have you actually met, Pecksniff?" C'mon, xenophobic old dribbles, how many?  Cheesy Cheesy

And anyway, how do YOU tell Danes apart, laughable cockwomble? Don't they all look and sound the same???

You are the ready, living, wheezing parody of all the Bbwianesque ijits , Bbwian. You have become a byword. Your greatest achievement. Turd, paki, mother, thicko salute you. Your life, finally, means something: Bbwianesque.


You are the perfect example of a Bad Dane, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:07pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:33pm:
JC Denton wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 9:22am:


We need to cut immigration to sustainable levels.


And what is, your opinion, on a "sustainable level", Baron? How many Muslims will you allow to enter?  How many Danes?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

50 thousand.

No Muslims except special talent apostates (The only ones with any talent).

Cultural affinity, ability to assimilate and contribute NOT JUST MATERIALLY to be a major consideration. We don't want the "gas the Jews" vibrants or the  "Oh, those bastard English" Paddies, do we?

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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:07pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 4:33pm:
JC Denton wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 9:22am:


We need to cut immigration to sustainable levels.


And what is, your opinion, on a "sustainable level", Baron? How many Muslims will you allow to enter?  How many Danes?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


We're bringing in over 600,000 a year under Albo
We're building less than 200,000 homes a year.

We have a housing crisis in the east. Home prices and rents are skyrocketing.

I own my place my kids are paying theirs off we're ok.

A sh1thouse was sold for over $1 million in Minchinbury which is western Sydney.

Housing is becoming unaffordable for younger genrations here.

Frank came on a Plane your family came in chains.
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My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict.  My family has identified as Australian since my Great-great-grandfather.  Soren is a recent arrival and acts like a lord, making judgements left-right-and-centre on everybody and everything without warrant, Baron.  I treat him as he treats everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank came on a Plane your family came in chains.
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict.  My family has identified as Australian since my Great-great-grandfather.  Soren is a recent arrival and acts like a lord, making judgements left-right-and-centre on everybody and everything without warrant, Baron.  I treat him as he treats everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So only Muslim immigrants are dinky do Aussies the moment they are granted citizenship.

Not whites who disagree with Paddy Pecksniff Bbwian.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:26pm:
Frank came on a Plane your family came in chains.
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict.  My family has identified as Australian since my Great-great-grandfather.  Soren is a recent arrival and acts like a lord, making judgements left-right-and-centre on everybody and everything without warrant, Baron.  I treat him as he treats everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So only Muslim immigrants are dinky do Aussies the moment they are granted citizenship.

Not whites who disagree with Paddy Pecksniff Bbwian.


Not Danes who pronounce judgements on everybody at the drop of a hat, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I keep finding ancestors further and further back here via DNA etc... I hold the high ground here... so there!   !!!???
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:35pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:26pm:
Frank came on a Plane your family came in chains.
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict.  My family has identified as Australian since my Great-great-grandfather.  Soren is a recent arrival and acts like a lord, making judgements left-right-and-centre on everybody and everything without warrant, Baron.  I treat him as he treats everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So only Muslim immigrants are dinky do Aussies the moment they are granted citizenship.

Not whites who disagree with Paddy Pecksniff Bbwian.


Not Danes who pronounce judgements on everybody at the drop of a hat, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy

Is that a judgement, brain damaged old ****wit?? Yes, it is.

You lack even elementary self-awareness, idiotic cockwomble.  You are laughably indequate, Bbwian. Every time you utter. 


Go on, say something, show us.


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My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict. 


Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

The first of my family to arrive here was listed as a Gentleman on ships manifest he came here from the UK to govern.

No convict blood in my family.


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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:33pm:
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My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict.  My family has identified as Australian since my Great-great-grandfather.  Soren is a recent arrival and acts like a lord, making judgements left-right-and-centre on everybody and everything without warrant, Baron.  I treat him as he treats everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So only Muslim immigrants are dinky do Aussies the moment they are granted citizenship.

Not whites who disagree with Paddy Pecksniff Bbwian.


Not Danes who pronounce judgements on everybody at the drop of a hat, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Here's a dinky di non-judgemental Aussie after your own heart, Bbwianesque cockwomble:

Convicted terrorist Abdul Nacer Benbrika wins High Court bid to restore his Australian citizenship




He is your kind of Australian, a bit like you, Bwian - spineless apologist, talking toxic shite. Tiny minority. Clap your arthritic hands.
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Re: Immigration
Reply #198 - Nov 4th, 2023 at 12:08pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 3:10pm:
Australia was built on immigration....Perhaps those opposing immigration who are not of Aboriginal decent should leave Australia now to be consistant with your values....Or is it only certain immigrants you oppose???

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where are we going to go dumbass? even indigenous european countries are being flooded with migrants as well.

if aboriginals were polled to overwhelmingly not support australia's migration program, would you say that is a justification to stop it? you more or less just admitted you consider them to be the arbiters of whether we should have a migration program or not -- so if they didn't support migration, would you agree with that? or is this just more empty words from an empty headed deflective moron?

if soverignity was never ceded and this was truly still their land -- and thus they still had the ultimate authority to determine who can live here -- why would abos want rando indians and chinese people here anymore than white people? in fact rando indians and chinks being here would be a direct corollary of the white occupation -- whites invade your country, then allow in a bunch of other foreign invaders to invade it even more lmao. why would abos want that if you think about it.
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Re: Immigration
Reply #199 - Nov 4th, 2023 at 12:40pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 11:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 5:26pm:
Frank came on a Plane your family came in chains.
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


My family were all free settlers, with the exception of my Great-great-great-grandfather who arrived as a Convict. 


Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

The first of my family to arrive here was listed as a Gentleman on ships manifest he came here from the UK to govern.

No convict blood in my family.


Lucky you.  My grand-father was elected, speaker of the SA Parliament.  My great-great-grandfather was a simple farmer. I am proud of my Great-great-great-great-Grandfather being a convict.  There is nothing wrong with being transported to Australia.  An Irishman who I once worked with said, he could understand why so few returned to the UK after transportation - wonderful weather, wonderful people, wonderful country, a country we should be proud of. Unlike Soren that finds fault in everything.  Cool Cool
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Reply #200 - Nov 4th, 2023 at 12:43pm