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Reply #1500 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 1:02pm
 
Richard Denniss (CEO of The Australia Institute) notes the unfairness of RBA controlling inflation by jacking up interest rates -  which burdens mortgage holders while savers  (and the wealthy) benefit.

https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/whats-the-point-of-the-reserve-bank-of-au...
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Reply #1501 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 12:58pm
 
The mainstream media trumpeting Neoclassical orthodoxy:


(Daily Mail)


UK national debt could be as high as £12TRILLION -four times recent estimates, analysis finds

.....etc etc; you don't need to read all the usual nonsense about government debt.

Provided inflation is controlled  (with price controls and rationing if necessary), the UK treasury can issue UK sterling any time it wishes (being a legal currency-issuer) and hence repay the debt-holders any time it wants, at no cost to taxpayers.

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Reply #1502 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 12:35pm
 
More from Michael Roberts (Marxist economist):

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2026/08/08/japan-caught-between-inflation...

Japan: caught between inflation and slump.

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Key points:

Japanese  PM Takaichi's higher government debt/lower taxes policy (aka Keynesiansm) is avoiding a "Liz Truss moment" (ie, being forced out of office by bond vigilantes), "because most Japanese government debt is held by Japanese (88%), unlike in the UK. The risk of capital flight (in Japan) only lies in that portion held by private investors, the net debt. And the latter is smaller than it’s been in decades, mainly because the BoJ has bought so much of the debt since 2013".

In the last week, the fall in the yen eventually prompted the Bank of Japan to intervene and start buying yen with its dollar reserves. But the new development was that US Treasury also came to the aid of the BoJ and Takaichi by starting to buy yen.  This has helped to stop the depreciation of the currency, at least for now.

The US entered the fray for two reasons.  First, the US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was concerned that the fast rise in Japanese government bond yields (2.86% in July, its highest level in some 30 years) would also lead a further rise in US government bond yields, already at highs.  The cost of servicing US government debt would rise and other interest rates in the US, like mortgage rates would move up.  US government borrowing costs are now at around 4.6 per cent, and 30-year bond rates are north of 5 per cent for the first time since the great financial crisis.

Rising interest rates are not popular with American households, where inflation is also on the rise, the jobs market is stalling and real incomes are stagnating at best.

The other reason for the US intervention was that a weak yen would lead to an accelerated flow out of yen by financial investors and into buying US dollars. This would strengthen the dollar and so make US exports even more difficult to compete in world markets. But what was odd about the US intervention was the US treasury used euros to buy yen, not dollars. This suggests that the US government is now reluctant to print more dollars because foreign investors have to some extent lost their enthusiasm for dollar assets, at least for US government bonds. It’s a sign of a weakening of US dollar’s ‘exorbitant privilege’ in world financial markets.

What can we learn from these currency events? First and foremost, that all roads are now leading to ‘stagflation’, where inflation rises, but economies do not expand.  This is the story for Japan, Europe and even the US.  Second, that pro-business governments cannot stimulate growth through currency depreciation or through trying to keep interest rates low if capitalist companies won’t invest. Japan’s corporations may have increased profits at the expense of wages, but they are not investing that extra capital in new technology and productivity-enhancing equipment. 

The current yen crisis could only be resolved by a sharp rise in Japanese interest rates to encourage investors to hold Japanese financial assets. But this would ensure an outright recession in the Japanese economy. Takaichi is caught in a trap between inflation and slump.


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Roberts is ignoring the negative consequences of globalization which caused the downfall of Keynesian deficit spending (1946-1973) after the Arab oil embargo - a global event - which caused 'stagflation' in the Western economies.

[Keynes himself, who died in 1946, of course wanted a global economy in which national trade surpluses and deficits balanced out, as delineated in his "clearing union" and "Bankor" concepts, thus overcoming the egregious effects of globalization on nations with vastly different competitive capacities].

   
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Reply #1503 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 2:04pm
 
The blindness of comfortable Conservatives on full dipsplay:

(News24)

‘Deeply wrong’: Labor MPs celebrate falling house prices and declare market is fixed.

News24 host Jaimee Rogers discusses the federal budget’s harmful impact on the housing market and reacts to Labor MPs who are celebrating the sharp housing price fall.

“There is something deeply wrong with the way this government is talking about Australia's housing market,” Ms Rogers said.

“Because while Labor MPs are out there celebrating falling house prices. Australians who own those homes are watching their wealth disappear.

“Young owners are being pushed into negative equity. Mortgage applications are collapsing. And a record number of homeowners are now at risk of defaulting on their loans.

“That is not a housing success story. It’s alarming … Bennelong MP Jerome Laxale declared the government's changes to negative gearing and capital gains tax had ‘fixed’ the market.”


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So, making houses more affordable is "deeply wrong"?

What's wrong is eschewing the necessity for a vital public housing sector to ensure provision of secure housing for low income groups.

Of course Laxale (ALP) is also wrong; the Lab-Lib economic duopoly - based on Friedmanite monetarist 'balanced government budget ideology is to blame for increasing homelessness, lower home-ownership rates, and increasing poverty.

The electorate is becoming restive...and Labor is fiddling around the edges instead of rebuilding the nation's essential public housing stock.

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Reply #1504 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 3:33pm
 
More blind Conservative ideology defending the market economy against planned well-being for all:

(Daily Mail)

Instead of focusing on the taxpayer, Labour are imposing Left-wing ideology: ALEX BURGHART

(google it, if you must read such nonsense).

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A Conservative blaming Labour for wanting to manage better social outcomes....who'd have thunk it...

Burnham would do well to encourage a debate over whether  currency-issuing governments need "taxpayer money" to fund their policies (the topic of this board).   

As Henry Ford said: "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Said by the richest man in the US, during the Great Depression. 

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Reply #1505 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 11:40pm
 
Gary Stevenson explains the difference between the comfortable middle class and the super rich; and the need to tax the latter to prevent a reversion to the inequality which existed 100 years ago.

Why the super rich never get touched

In short: because governments don't tax assets owned by the wealthy.

When people hear tax the rich, they worry it means them. This video explains the difference between earning well and being truly wealthy. It breaks down how wealth is really distributed and why ordinary families are being squeezed. The focus is on who owns assets, not who works hard

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/why-the-super-rich-never-get-touched/vi-AA...

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And right on cue:

(Times Now)

Elon Musk adds over $800 million a day as world’s richest person
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Reply #1506 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 4:39pm
 
(Big Think)

Psychologist and author Steven Pinker considers:

Does everyone have the same values? Yes, but libertarianism isn’t one of them.

Is conflict humanity's natural state? Could we ever agree on a set of values? The knee-jerk response for any student of history would be 'no', but the data tells a different story. Psychologist and author Steven Pinker offers proof in the form of Wagner's law: "One development that people both on the Left and the Right are unaware of is an almost inexorable force that leads affluent societies to devote increasing amounts of their wealth to social spending, to redistribution to children, to education, to healthcare, to supporting the poor, to supporting the aged."

Until the 20th century, most societies devoted about 1.5% of their GDP to social spending, and generally much less than that. In the last 100 years, that's changed: today the current global median of social spending is 22% of GDP. One group will groan most audibly at that data: Libertarians.

However, Pinker says it's no coincidence that there are zero libertarian countries on Earth; social spending is a shared value, even if the truest libertarians protest it, as the free market has no way to provide for poor children, the elderly, and other members of society who cannot contribute to the marketplace.

As countries develop, they naturally initiate social spending programs. That's why libertarianism is a marginal idea, rather than a universal value—and it's likely to stay that way.


Steven Pinker is the author of Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress.

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"it's the economy, stupid"

...though not the delusional Neoclassical "small government"/privatization market-based  economy.



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Reply #1507 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:57pm
 
Easily refuted Conservative codswollop:

(Daily Mail)

Key Burnham ally puts pressure on for 2% wealth tax on the richest

Andy Burnham will 'cost taxpayers billions' it was warned on Monday – after the new PM's Labour pals piled more pressure on him to introduce a wealth tax.

My comment: Conservative lie #1 - It will cost the richest taxpayers billions.

In troubling news for Britain's highest earners, Mr Burnham has been urged by a staunch ally to bring in a two per cent wealth tax at his first Budget next month.[/]

Troubling news for whom? Someone with a wealth portfolio worth more than 10 billion UK pounds?

[i]A new report from Compass, a Labour group headed by Neal Lawson, is pushing the new Prime Minister to introduce a two per cent levy on net wealth above £10million – a move it claims would raise £24billion a year and affect 22,000 Brits.

The leftist pressure group also calls for capital gains to be levelled with income tax, which it predicts will squeeze a further £11billion from Britain's richest.

But Mr Burnham was warned last night that caving to demands for a wealth tax would 'send the signal that Britain is not a place for aspiration, investment or success'.

[i]Sir Mel Stride, shadow chancellor, said: 'Andy Burnham has barely got his feet under the desk and his allies are already drawing up a list of whose pockets to go through.

'It made no difference Andy Burnham replaced Keir Starmer because Labour are the problem. Andy Burnham's tax-more, borrow-more, spend-more agenda will cost taxpayers billions of pounds.

'Only the Conservatives have a leader with the backbone and strong team needed to restore confidence in the public finances by cutting debt through our Golden Economic Rule.'


Comment: Conservative lie #2 - Conservatives lost the confidence of the electorate at the last election.

Robert Jenrick, Reform's economic spokesperson, added: 'Time and again history has proven wealth taxes simply do not work.

'Labour seems to think there's a bottomless pit of millionaires who'll swallow every tax rise. They won't. They'll leave, just as they have been leaving under this government, taking their businesses, jobs and tax revenue with them.


Comment: Conservative lies #3 and #4 - the formula for wealth taxes has in the past been riddled with exemptions; and moving from the nation which enabled the creation of a wealth portfolio can be 'discouraged' by taxing the entire wealth portfolio 100% (forget 2%...) 

Instead of dreaming up new ways to raid people's savings, the Government should focus on cutting government waste such as net zero, tackling the welfare bill and growing the economy through common-sense reform.'

Comment: Conservative lie #5 - "growing the economy through common-sense reform"; Conservatives never achieve that when they are in government, which is why they are always turfed out of office.   

Of course, "progressives" don't know how to achieve it either...hence this MMT board examing the myriad of issues involved.

And Daniel Herring, head of Fiscal and Economic Policy at think tank the Centre for Policy Studies (CPS), told the Daily Mail: 'As the CPS and many others have repeatedly pointed out, wealth taxes are unfair, unworkable, and send the signal that Britain is not a place for aspiration, investment or success.

Comment: Conservative lie #6 - "wealth taxes are unfair"...it would be interesting to explore Herring's concept of "unfairness" when the top 1%'s wealth is exploding and the middle class is disappearing, as confirmed by Gary Stevenson. 

'Andy Burnham would do well to ignore those around him who are pushing for wealth taxes if he wants to see Britain return to growth.'

Comment: Conservative lie #7 - already noted above (#5).

The number of millionaires has reduced by seven per cent since 2024 after former Labour chancellor Rachel Reeves delivered her tax-raising Autumn budget.

Comment: Conservative lie/distortion #8 -

(Guardian) "Gabriel Zucman, an economist at University of California, Berkeley and the Paris School of Economics, said that while in the postwar decades GDP growth numbers were broadly indicative of how income was growing for most of the population, “today, there is a total disconnect between macroeconomic indicators and the reality of income gains for most people”.

He added: “The upsurge of income and wealth among the super rich – and the accounting of manipulations of multinational companies in Ireland – are distorting macroeconomic numbers.”


But Labour figures are now capitalising on their party's lurch to the left under Mr Burnham by clamouring for a new tax on wealth.

Yes,  because economic inequality and poverty are increasng in the  UK (and elsewhere).

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Reply #1508 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 6:59pm
 
Wealthy home-owners prove they are too greedy and/or lazy to show City Hall they live in one of their homes in New York.

Guardian)

A judge has temporarily blocked Zohran Mamdani’s pied-à-terre tax, which would place a surcharge on second homes in New York City, dealing a blow to the progressive New York City mayor after homeowners sued over the policy.

The tax would apply to people who own, but do not reside full-time in, any house worth more than $5m, or a condominium or cooperative unit worth at least $1m.

The temporary, emergency pause comes after a group of homeowners filed a lawsuit against the mayor and the city’s finance director over the tax last week. They allege the city wrongly identified their homes as potentially subject to the surcharge despite the properties serving as their primary residences.

“The city has arbitrarily and capriciously foisted onto New York City residents the burden of proving they are not subject to the surcharge,” reads the complaint filed on Friday.


Re the undelined: that's high wealth for you, especially in New York.

In a statement to the Guardian, Matt Rauschenbach, a spokesperson for Mamdani, criticized the ruling and said the mayor’s office planned to appeal.

“We disagree with today’s ruling, but we are confident in both the pied-à-terre surcharge and the City’s ability to implement it fairly and effectively,” Rauschenbach said. “This surcharge asks those who own second homes valued at $5 million or more to contribute their fair share to the city they benefit from. The Law Department will appeal the ruling immediately which will stay the order, and the City will continue with the pied-a-terre’s implementation.”


Stay tuned... but the law is run by Conservatives for Conservatives; I fear Mamdami won't win this one, even though many enlightened millionaires  recognize the growing economic divide is not sustainable.
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Reply #1509 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 11:51am
 
From Prof. Steve Keen:

Do we actually need bonds?

Life would be simpler if governments didn't issue bonds, but the finance sector, that complains when there are too many, would really complain if there were none at all.

There’s only one reason a government issues bonds. It’s so their account with the central bank is not overdrawn. It’s only regulation that stops the central bank from saying a rapidly expanding deficit is fine. After all, it’s an indicator of how much government money has gone into supporting the private sector.

But economists and finances see that as monetising finanacing, and it’s a no no. Instead, regulations insist bonds are issued to the value of the government’s spending deficit.

But what purpose do they serve, other than allowing investors to influence their price and yield, often as a response to government spending. In short, they seem to think their market pricing can influence government policy. So, why do we pay so much attention to an artificial process that only happen because we can’t trust governments to regulate their spending and keep inflation in check?



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Reply #1510 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 6:12pm
 
(This Is Money)

Wealth taxes will hit growth: No 10 must not succumb to the politics of envy, warns Alex Brummer

Among the encouraging aspects of Andy Burnham’s rise to Number 10 were reports that his economic advice was coming from three wise men.

The triumvirate of former Goldman Sachs economist Jim O’Neill, ex-Bank of England economist Andy Haldane and recently departed Office for Budget Responsibility head Richard Hughes inspired hope.

Securing their full- or part-time attention is proving trickier. Among the stumbling blocks is the Prime Minister’s apparent support for wealth taxes to pay for big-ticket items such as a drive for affordable housing and an urgent lift in defence spending. Taxes on wealth are attractive to the Left with its politics of envy.

Popular support has been underpinned by the intervention of football presenter Gary Lineker and fellow multimillionaires volunteering to pay more.

That argument lost some force because of allegations that some supporters used entirely legal tax avoidance schemes.

More telling is O’Neill’s scepticism. The former Tory minister and one of the intellectual forces behind efforts to boost regional economies is an active investor in UK innovation and tech.

One easy fix is the proposal to tax capital gains at the same rate as income. As much as one would like to see the ‘carried interest’ loophole for private equity barons closed, I fear this may be the last straw for UK entrepreneurs.

Recent support for a tax on the UK’s super-rich households has come from economist Gabriel Zucman of the University of California, who argues that a well-designed wealth tax on individuals with assets of £100million or more could yield substantial returns. It would bypass criticism that a wealth tax would punish start-ups and innovators.

To prevent avoidance, it would include a clause forcing those caught by the measure to pay taxes for a decade after they leave the UK. How HMRC would enforce such a measure is more complex.

An analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies last year argued that an annual wealth tax ‘would penalise investment and savings’. It might have added that these are key drivers of growth.

The International Monetary Fund’s most recent inspection warned that the UK was close to peak taxation. The yield from new taxes would be negligible.

Hopefully, Chancellor John Healey got the message.


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Ah, so ...government can't address systemic disadvantage, we all just have to suck it up...

But societies have a tendency to rebel against "sucking it up" when things get bad enough.


As for "the politics of envy": most people merely want access to the essentials,  and don't give a s*it about how much wealth Musk and his fellow $billionaires have.

The real question is: how can government eradicate systemic economic disadvantage.

Most politicians are captured by the illusion of monetary scarcity - which only applies to USERS of the currency, not the legal ISSUER of the currency (ie the sovereign government).






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Reply #1511 - Aug 20th, 2026 at 12:53pm
 
(News Wire)

'Sad day' as national debt hits $1 trillion

Australia is marking a “sad day”, opposition economy spokesman Tim Wilson has said as the national debt ticks over $1 trillion.

Federal debt is set to briefly pass the milestone on Thursday morning as the Australian Office of Financial Management borrows another $4bn, before dipping back down on Friday when other loans are settled.

“Today is ultimately a sad for the country,” Mr Wilson said, claiming that “this government is addicted to spending”.

“It’s addicted to inflation, and it’s constantly focused on how it spends that spending and … stokes the economy, stokes the inflation, then they go and tax the inflation and they spend the inflation in a vicious cycle, which is why Australians are falling further and further behind.”

He warned that future generations would ultimately bear the cost, saying that “today’s debt is tomorrow’s taxes”.

“This is why the task is so important, to confront debt, to make sure it doesn’t continue to be part of an intergenerational legacy that’s being left behind,” Mr Wilson said.

Labor has pumped billions into cost-of-living relief since its elections in 2022, as wars across the globe strain supply chains and drive up energy costs.

The Albanese government initially delivered two back-to-back surpluses before slipping back into deficits for the last two federal budgets, with further deficits forecast until the mid 2030s.

However, it has found more than $100bn in savings and reprioritisations.

A spokesperson for Treasurer Jim Chalmers pushed back against Mr Wilson’s claims, saying that “gross debt would have crossed the trillion dollar mark three years ago”.

“If the Coalition had been in power today gross debt this year would already be approaching 1.2 trillion dollars,” they said.

“The government’s responsible economic management has got debt down from what we inherited from the Coalition and Australia is avoiding more than $70bn in interest.”

Australia has one of the lowest debt burdens when compared to other advanced economies, including the G7 countries.

Moody’s and S&P Global, two of the world’s biggest credit rating agencies, earlier this month upheld Australia’s triple AAA credit ratings.


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So Oz remains one of the few countries with a AAA credit rating - what's the problem?

The silly part about it all is that currency-issuing governments are forced to tax, or borrow money from rich people or institutions, when such governments are legal currency issuers.

All because laissez faire markets  need independent central banks to contol inflation, whereas direct  mobilization of (non-monetary)resources , to avoid inflation, is a task which should be the preserve of governments.   

It's a pity Trump has got bogged down in the Iran war which is causing global inflation to rise, alongside his tarrifs which are supposed  to remove the burden of taxation from US citizens to the rest of the world.

So both are working against  Trump's chance to show lower taxes and higher debt is immaterial for a currrency-issuer provided inflation is kept under control.



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Reply #1512 - Aug 22nd, 2026 at 1:32pm
 
Gary Stevenson: 

Why The Economist hates wealth taxes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mfqPNdENw
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Reply #1513 - Aug 22nd, 2026 at 6:02pm
 
Gary Stevenson admits his plan is only enough to prevent the UK from sliding back into Dickensian poverty, in this BBC TV interview. 

Gary Stevenson says Britain is FINISHED unless we fix this problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPeP9xFrtP0



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Reply #1514 - Aug 23rd, 2026 at 5:12pm
 
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John Healey must be bold to tackle Britain's surging debt, says Maggie Pagano
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Presumably she's a mainstream 'austerity' economist, for whom being "bold" means cutting government spending and welfare for the poor...let's read on:

Pity John Healey. He has been Chancellor for only a month but he is close to being the first to preside over a whopping £3trillion of national debt.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics show the Government borrowed £1.8billion in July – an astonishing £700million more than a year ago.

What’s more staggering is that the increase in borrowing came despite a higher tax take, because Labour spent £2billion more on welfare benefits compared with a year ago – taking the monthly bill to almost £30billion.

So far this financial year Labour has borrowed £56.7billion, well ahead of the Office for Budget Responsibility’s forecast of £54.4billion. That in turn takes the national debt to £2.99trillion – or 94 per cent of GDP, up some £96billion on a year earlier.

Perhaps the most worrying figure is that Healey spent £7.7billion on interest payments in July alone, nearly 10 per cent up on a year ago.

The bond markets didn’t like these numbers one little bit: The yield on ten-year UK gilts is now more than 5 per cent – around the highest in nearly 20 years – while the yield on the 30-year gilt is hovering at 5.8 per cent.

Investors can see that Healey is not only close to breaching the so-called magic fiscal rules but is no longer in control of spending.

His headroom – more like a headache – has fallen from £24billion at the Spring Statement to about £8billion today.

What, then, should Healey do in his first Budget on October 28?

The kite-flying suggests he will go for £25billion or so of tax hikes, coming down hard on business and investment again.

As the report points out, raising taxes on investment at moments of economic weakness – first after the 2008 financial crash and then after the pandemic – were major errors, with catastrophic impacts on growth. Doing so again would indeed be insanity.

Instead, Burnham and Healey have the opportunity to do what Sir Keir Starmer failed to do: Be brave enough to take on their backbenchers over welfare reform.

If that fails, be bold enough to take on the fight and go to the country.

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Just as I thought: being bold means "welfare reform", ie cutting welfare for the poor without ensuring work for all.

Deplorable.

Interestingly,  mainstream economists can't agree on how to reduce taxation, eg economist Arthur Laffer, creator of the Laffer Curve, says Liz Truss should have been given the chance to implement her low tax budget, but 'bond vigilantes' -  mainstream economists to a man - forced her out of office in a month bcause they think government debt causes inflation; and the people didn't get to vote on Truss's proposal: she didn't get a chance "to go to the country".


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