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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #45 - Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:34am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 4:35am: Bunnings cut timber to length and I only have a sedan. bunning offer free trailer hire to transport bulky goods. I believe in some places they even offer vans, or have them available for hire . I'm not sure about the vans
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Re: Woodworking
Reply #46 - Dec 25^th, 2021 at 12:24pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:34am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 4:35am:

Bunnings cut timber to length and I only have a sedan.

bunning offer free trailer hire to transport bulky goods.

I believe in some places they even offer vans, or have them available for hire . I'm not sure about the vans

yes, it is a very well run shop.
They offer a free trailer, will cut to size or have their own delivery guy at a reasonable price.
I believe they have a ute/van for hire.
Pretty amazing really.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56771 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #47 - Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 12:24am You'll pay for it in their marked up prices. Not so 'free' afterall.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41774 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #48 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 2:47pm I call it my Therapy Table
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41774 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #49 - Jan 15^th, 2022 at 3:44am Made a router sled today. Turned out quite good. Have a job coming up where I want to reduce the width and thickness of some wood. Have a lightweight router, if I use it carefully it will be fine. It is not called a router, just an edger/laminator. But it is a makita. So use it mindfully, it'll last me forever.
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Reply #50 - Jan 15^th, 2022 at 7:25am

No circular saw or thicknesser?

I considered these two tools an absolute necessity when making wood clocks.
Accuracy is quite important to get them running nice.

I use old second hand hardwood to get stable and strong wood.
New stuff twists and warps and really stuffs up the tolerances.

Old stuff is great, and usually cheaper.

I bought a Triton workbench (circular saw and router table) many years ago, brilliant (but new ones are better)
My thicknesser was very expensive (in my opinion) and is a Ryobi, but has proven invaluable.

Using a router for thicknessing material will leave you less than satisfied I think you will find.

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Reply #51 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 11:22pm

Valkie wrote on Jan 15^th, 2022 at 7:25am:

No circular saw or thicknesser?

I considered these two tools an absolute necessity when making wood clocks.
Accuracy is quite important to get them running nice.

I use old second hand hardwood to get stable and strong wood.
New stuff twists and warps and really stuffs up the tolerances.

Old stuff is great, and usually cheaper.

I bought a Triton workbench (circular saw and router table) many years ago, brilliant (but new ones are better)
My thicknesser was very expensive (in my opinion) and is a Ryobi, but has proven invaluable.

Using a router for thicknessing material will leave you less than satisfied I think you will find.

That is an amazing piece of artwork Valkie.
Beautiful.

Will keep my eyes out for old scrapped hardwood.

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Reply #52 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 11:26pm

Am in the planning stages for a garden bench.

Got some plans but they are not what I want.
Want a curved swoopy bench.
Making some progress, using a cardboard template to get the profile of the seat and back support.
They are not just flat pieces.

Found this to decide on what joints to use.

https://www.finewoodworking.com/membership/pdf/57138/011203036.pdf

Mortice and tenon would be more work than 1/2 lap.
Funnily enough, 1/2 lap is stronger too !!!!!!!

Lots of these joints will be at an angle, so the 1/2 lap will be MUCH easier to 'get right'.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20634 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #53 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 11:28pm Cedar strips edge glued together then sheathed in 200 gram square metre E glass cloth with epoxy resin. Less than 60lbs
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41774 Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #54 - Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 5:49pm Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 11:28pm: Cedar strips edge glued together then sheathed in 200 gram square metre E glass cloth with epoxy resin. Less than 60lbs Looks beautiful. Those that have bought 'normal' canoes will be green with envy.
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Reply #55 - Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:53pm

The new garden bench needs curved wood if it is to be how I imagine it.
Lots of curved wood.

I tried this method - ' ........... While building boats I learned from the pros to wrap the wood in old terry cloth (or Similar cloth) and slowly pour rapidly boiling water (hotter than 100 degrees celsius) over it repeatedly for fifteen minutes. It worked well for bending wood much thicker than this. The wood was wet and saturated with steam and bent well. Very hot and requires good gloves to handle. It cools a bit slower due to saturation. But dries completely in a couple hours after. .....'

It worked ok. The work required would be too much for what I want as a final result.
It is for in the forest.

Bunnings has some wood the right dimensions that has dried badly and curved.
That will do perfectly.
It has a few 'quirks', but at this price, already curved, it is ideal.

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Reply #56 - Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 7:38pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:53pm:

The new garden bench needs curved wood if it is to be how I imagine it.
Lots of curved wood.

I tried this method - ' ........... While building boats I learned from the pros to wrap the wood in old terry cloth (or Similar cloth) and slowly pour rapidly boiling water (hotter than 100 degrees celsius) over it repeatedly for fifteen minutes. It worked well for bending wood much thicker than this. The wood was wet and saturated with steam and bent well. Very hot and requires good gloves to handle. It cools a bit slower due to saturation. But dries completely in a couple hours after. .....'

It worked ok. The work required would be too much for what I want as a final result.
It is for in the forest.

Bunnings has some wood the right dimensions that has dried badly and curved.
That will do perfectly.
It has a few 'quirks', but at this price, already curved, it is ideal.

I haven't tested this myself but I've been told that if you have a pool you can bend wood by soaking it in the water. It doesn't need to be hot. Secure the ends and slowly add weight to the middle until you have the desired curve. Just make sure that when you take it out you secure the shape until it dries otherwise it'll spring back. Temporarily screwing it to some fixed point is an easy way to do it if you have that option. Otherwise pickets or weights at various points along the ground to stop it moving until it dries

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Re: Woodworking
Reply #57 - Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 10:14pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:53pm:

The new garden bench needs curved wood if it is to be how I imagine it.
Lots of curved wood.

I tried this method - ' ........... While building boats I learned from the pros to wrap the wood in old terry cloth (or Similar cloth) and slowly pour rapidly boiling water (hotter than 100 degrees celsius) over it repeatedly for fifteen minutes. It worked well for bending wood much thicker than this. The wood was wet and saturated with steam and bent well. Very hot and requires good gloves to handle. It cools a bit slower due to saturation. But dries completely in a couple hours after. .....'

It worked ok. The work required would be too much for what I want as a final result.
It is for in the forest.

Bunnings has some wood the right dimensions that has dried badly and curved.
That will do perfectly.
It has a few 'quirks', but at this price, already curved, it is ideal.

Steam bending is what most boatbuilders use.

That said not many boats bigger than canoes being built from wood these days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_bending#:~:text=Steam%20bending%20is%20a%20w...

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Woodworking Reply #58 - Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 10:40pm Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 10:14pm: Steam bending is what most boatbuilders use. That said not many boats bigger than canoes being built from wood these days. This is more in BaronVonRort's style, social status, and budget. Including the sailor hat.
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Re: Woodworking
Reply #59 - Apr 24^th, 2022 at 12:09am

John Smith wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 7:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:53pm:

The new garden bench needs curved wood if it is to be how I imagine it.
Lots of curved wood.

I tried this method - ' ........... While building boats I learned from the pros to wrap the wood in old terry cloth (or Similar cloth) and slowly pour rapidly boiling water (hotter than 100 degrees celsius) over it repeatedly for fifteen minutes. It worked well for bending wood much thicker than this. The wood was wet and saturated with steam and bent well. Very hot and requires good gloves to handle. It cools a bit slower due to saturation. But dries completely in a couple hours after. .....'

It worked ok. The work required would be too much for what I want as a final result.
It is for in the forest.

Bunnings has some wood the right dimensions that has dried badly and curved.
That will do perfectly.
It has a few 'quirks', but at this price, already curved, it is ideal.

I haven't tested this myself but I've been told that if you have a pool you can bend wood by soaking it in the water. It doesn't need to be hot. Secure the ends and slowly add weight to the middle until you have the desired curve. Just make sure that when you take it out you secure the shape until it dries otherwise it'll spring back. Temporarily screwing it to some fixed point is an easy way to do it if you have that option. Otherwise pickets or weights at various points along the ground to stop it moving until it dries

thanks.
Soaking it for a few days in cold water would be easier than steaming it

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