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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #15 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
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Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?
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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:40pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 11:53am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 11:32am:
lee wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 1:28pm:
Different times, different attitudes. Fitting 21st century mores to old ones. Bugger those Danes, Romans etc. Roll Eyes


I know. That's what you always say about Moh, no?


Ministry of health???


Exactly. Moh wasn't really a kiddy-fiddler, you say. It was different times.

But 19th century Australia, well. Where was the law against killing Boongs?

Ask Laugh that, Lee. Chase him around for a few pages asking where, on the King's land, anyone had to obey the British criminal code.

I dare you.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:43pm
 
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Good point, dear. They tried to give Whitey smallpox, yes?

How diabolically cunning of them. Not cricket, no?
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:59pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:40pm:
Chase him around for a few pages asking where, on the King's land, anyone had to obey the British criminal code.



it was the Law on genocide I was really interested in.  Wink
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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:22pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:59pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:40pm:
Chase him around for a few pages asking where, on the King's land, anyone had to obey the British criminal code.



it was the Law on genocide I was really interested in.  Wink


Cunning, no?
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #20 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 1:10am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:43pm:
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Good point, dear. They tried to give Whitey smallpox, yes?

How diabolically cunning of them. Not cricket, no?



They "tried" to give anyone anything?

Please explain?

Who did - when and where?

Sorry to introduce reality into your Black Panther Party...
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Reply #21 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 6:58am
 
Good one shitter. Still complaining about the past.  Cool

The only reason you're complaining is because those whites you complain about and hate so much allowed you have your say.......but only after they built a civilised society, to which you still take for granted.  Grin Grin Grin
Beats sleeping in a dry river bed covered in vomit I suppose  Wink

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Reply #22 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:46am
 
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Whites were invaders moron.

The right to fight invaders is recognized internationally and universally.
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Reply #23 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 10:22am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:46am:
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Whites were invaders moron.

The right to fight invaders is recognized internationally and universally.


They lost. Idiot.
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #24 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 12:06pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 9:46am:
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Whites were invaders moron.

The right to fight invaders is recognized internationally and universally.



They settled peacefully... essentially the first ones were cast adrift, moron.  Hardly an invasion.

And yes - they lost, so there is no going back.

"... and as part of the peace treaty with Nazi Germany, the Allies will return to them their concentration camps and their established civil rights under that government... in return for which the Nazis will keep the peace... now just sign here, Adolph, shake hands all around and all's good..."
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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #25 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 3:43pm:
The Grappler wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:26pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1622603970/12#12 date=1622690017]

Genocide is not a war. Any acts of violence by the Aboriginals was in protection of their existence from genocide.


Not a good reader, huh?  Who'd 've thunk it?  How is it genocide if the Whites RETALIATED, but not genocide when the Aborigines tried to wipe the Whites out?


Good point, dear. They tried to give Whitey smallpox, yes?

How diabolically cunning of them. Not cricket, no?


That's how infection works... that old bug don't give one damn what colour your paint job is....

"Papa, little Johnny's got smallpox again!"

"I told him not to play with them Black kids... I'll tan his hide for him when he gets home!"
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Reply #26 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 12:21pm
 
Grappler is an expert on infection. Grappler is infected with hate.

Grappler's hate is in his genes and his jeans.
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Reply #27 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 1:47pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The names of the murderers should be expunged from public places and public apologies should be installed  in the places where these names were adopted.

Batman is one, which is the name of a Federal electorate.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-ago-was-it-legal-for-white-Australians-to-kill-Ab...

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... This may go some way to explaining why, within a few years of the initial settlement, an all-out war was raging between the colony and the Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples.

Despite numerous instructions from Britain to cease these actions, the colonial government declared martial law and placed a bounty of ₤5 for every Aboriginal adult and ₤2 for every child captured.

Lip service was paid to treating the Aboriginals “humanely” - often in the same paragraph as a “shoot on sight” order. For example, should someone seeking to capture Aboriginals for the bounty be “forced” to kill some of them, this was acceptable.

Proclamations were made giving assurances to the Aboriginals that they were equal under the law, but the reality was pretty obvious.

For example, John Batman, a resident of the colony at the time, led a raid against a group of 60–70 men, women and children. This raid was made on behalf of the colonial government.

They killed 15 and captured 2 wounded men, a woman and her 2 year old son.

Batman then wrote that he:

"...found it impossible that the two former [the men] could walk, and after trying them by every means in my power, for some time, found I could not get them on I was obliged to shoot them."

He returned with the other two. He handed the woman over to the authorities but kept the boy and another from a different incident because they were “as much his property as his farm”. ...


It is completely incorrect and misleading to generalize and accuse whites of genocide against Aboriginal people and to say "white killers" instead of "Anglo-Saxon killers".
Why do you act cowardly hesitant to tell the truth by making political correctness out of lies?
So the correct title of this topic would be: Anglo (Anglo-Saxon) murderers of Aborigines honored in Australia
The genocide against the Aborigines was systematically committed by the Anglo-Saxon population, and you cannot blame the French, Germans, Russians, Greeks, Italians, etc. for this terrible crime.
Despite all the undeniable historical facts, there is a trend of revisionist historical generalization in the Australian media, and even in academic circles where "Europeans" and "whites" are responsible for this crime, not to mention the British colonial empire and especially the Anglo-Saxon population, the greatest protagonists and defenders of the mass murder of Aboriginal people in Australia.
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Do we need to be always politically correct.
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Reply #28 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 1:51pm
 
Got it:

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Re: White murderers of Aborigines honored in Aus
Reply #29 - Jun 4th, 2021 at 2:28pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 4th, 2021 at 1:47pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 1:19pm:
The names of the murderers should be expunged from public places and public apologies should be installed  in the places where these names were adopted.

Batman is one, which is the name of a Federal electorate.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-ago-was-it-legal-for-white-Australians-to-kill-Ab...

Quote:
... This may go some way to explaining why, within a few years of the initial settlement, an all-out war was raging between the colony and the Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples.

Despite numerous instructions from Britain to cease these actions, the colonial government declared martial law and placed a bounty of ₤5 for every Aboriginal adult and ₤2 for every child captured.

Lip service was paid to treating the Aboriginals “humanely” - often in the same paragraph as a “shoot on sight” order. For example, should someone seeking to capture Aboriginals for the bounty be “forced” to kill some of them, this was acceptable.

Proclamations were made giving assurances to the Aboriginals that they were equal under the law, but the reality was pretty obvious.

For example, John Batman, a resident of the colony at the time, led a raid against a group of 60–70 men, women and children. This raid was made on behalf of the colonial government.

They killed 15 and captured 2 wounded men, a woman and her 2 year old son.

Batman then wrote that he:

"...found it impossible that the two former [the men] could walk, and after trying them by every means in my power, for some time, found I could not get them on I was obliged to shoot them."

He returned with the other two. He handed the woman over to the authorities but kept the boy and another from a different incident because they were “as much his property as his farm”. ...


It is completely incorrect and misleading to generalize and accuse whites of genocide against Aboriginal people and to say "white killers" instead of "Anglo-Saxon killers".
Why do you act cowardly hesitant to tell the truth by making political correctness out of lies?
So the correct title of this topic would be: Anglo (Anglo-Saxon) murderers of Aborigines honored in Australia
The genocide against the Aborigines was systematically committed by the Anglo-Saxon population, and you cannot blame the French, Germans, Russians, Greeks, Italians, etc. for this terrible crime.
Despite all the undeniable historical facts, there is a trend of revisionist historical generalization in the Australian media, and even in academic circles where "Europeans" and "whites" are responsible for this crime, not to mention the British colonial empire and especially the Anglo-Saxon population, the greatest protagonists and defenders of the mass murder of Aboriginal people in Australia.
Smiley
Does the same argument apply to the genocides and massacres committed by the Chinese? Any aboriginal deaths pale in
comparison to the tens of millions of  murders committed by the Chinese. How many Urgurs massacred so far? A million?
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