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Jan 5th, 2021 at 1:30pm
 

New UK coronavirus strain found in Perth hotel quarantine system as three arrivals test positive

"Three people in Western Australia's hotel quarantine system have tested positive for the new COVID-19 variant from the UK, Premier Mark McGowan has revealed."

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Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 1:38pm
 
It's widely being referred to as the South African mutation at this stage.

The good news is the vaccines should be effective against it.
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am
 
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 11:01am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


I agree.  Get rid of 'em!

In all seriousness, that woman has some very serious mental issues though so, as a duty of care, the WA Health Department should offer her some help.

Otherwise, she's just gonna be doing stupid irresponsible things wherever she goes.

A little time in a mental health facility wouldn't hurt.
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 11:45am
 
There's heaps of different 'Strains' going around.
Not much interest in Peru/Chile strain that can increase in very 'sparsely' populated areas - now that's dangerous, but because it ain't UK or USA...

Mutation shows the Virus is WINNING.
It's 'Growing'.



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Reply #6 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 2:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 11:01am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


I agree.  Get rid of 'em!

In all seriousness, that woman has some very serious mental issues though so, as a duty of care, the WA Health Department should offer her some help.

Otherwise, she's just gonna be doing stupid irresponsible things wherever she goes.

A little time in a mental health facility wouldn't hurt.


you could always move out and give her your spot
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Reply #7 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm
 
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.

That will be up to the Prime Minister so I won't be holding my breath waiting for him to make a decision.

Premier McGowan says that at the very least people should be tested for COVID-19 before they board the planes to come here - which is what a lot of people, myself included, have been saying for a while now. For "returned travellers" from everywhere, not just the UK.

But, this new COVID-19 variant has probably already spread to all corners of the globe by now so banning flights from the UK won't make much difference anymore. It'll be too little, too late as usual.
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Reply #8 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!


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Reply #9 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!






what about all those stranded aussies.... Cry Cry Cry

we owe them!
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cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!






what about all those stranded aussies.... Cry Cry Cry

we owe them!



they dont matter cods.

all that matters is keeping gweggy safe.

are they doing anything as meaningful as posting "the alledge child rapist  blah,blah, blah" 100,000 times  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

the whole world must bend to gweggys higher purpose.

his mission in life

his reason for existence  Undecided Undecided
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Reply #11 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:47pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:42pm:
what about all those stranded aussies.... Cry Cry Cry

we owe them!


Maybe.

But, as I've said once or twice in the past - I'm prepared to bet that a large number of them are expatriates who have been happily living overseas for years but now that things are getting a bit "virusy" over there they all want to come back to Australia where they believe its safe.

Which it (relatively speaking) is - for the time being.
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Reply #12 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:49pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:42pm:
what about all those stranded aussies.... Cry Cry Cry

we owe them!


Maybe.

But, as I've said once or twice in the past - I'm prepared to bet that a large number of them are expatriates who have been happily living overseas for years but now that things are getting a bit "virusy" over there they all now want to come back to Australia where they believe its safe.

Which it (relatively) is - for the time being.



but but but  when Albo does come up for air   he always says loud and clear..


bring em home.. or.........
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Reply #13 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 5:03pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


Maybe it's just me, but the whole thing sounds a tad...dubious?
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Reply #14 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 5:10pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


Yes.
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Reply #15 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 6:33pm
 
Mutant strain: Australian leaders to consider tighter rules on UK arrivals

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/states-want-early-testing-of-passengers-...

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Prime Minister Scott Morrison has recalled national cabinet a month early to decide whether to tighten precautions on international arrivals over fears travellers from the United Kingdom will spread a more infectious mutant coronavirus strain.

The nation's leaders will meet on Friday rather than in February to consider the health advice from Australia's top medical officers, who will meet on Thursday ahead of Friday's leaders' phone hookup.


Definitely a step in the right direction but I hope they consider (and act) quickly.
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Reply #16 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:49am
 
Authorities worried UK strain of COVID-19 may be so infectious it broke through normal quarantine protocols


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-08/coronavirus-queensland-uk-strain-hotel-qu...

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Authorities in Queensland are highly concerned about the case after the woman, aged in her 20s, was out in the community for several days, before developing symptoms on Wednesday and testing positive.


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It is the first time in the nation that a person has been out in the community while unknowingly ill with the highly-infectious strain.


I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?
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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:56am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!





Yet when it was said to ban flights from Asia you screamed racism.
Funny the double standards you show.  Grin

Don't even bother replying. You're a waste of skin.
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Reply #18 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:57am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!





Yet when it was said to ban flights from Asia you screamed racism.


Nope.  Not me.

I said ban flights from all countries, right from the start.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:49am:
I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?


And... they're off and running again...

Thousands of shoppers flock to Brisbane supermarkets ahead of three day lockdown


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/thousands-of-shoppers-f...

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Panic buying has broken out across Greater Brisbane as the city prepares to enter a strict three day lockdown from Friday evening.

Despite pleas from the Queensland Premier and chief health officer, queues quickly formed outside the city’s supermarkets and shelves were rapidly emptied.


No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 10:54am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:49am:
I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?


And... they're off and running again...

Thousands of shoppers flock to Brisbane supermarkets ahead of three day lockdown


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/thousands-of-shoppers-f...

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Panic buying has broken out across Greater Brisbane as the city prepares to enter a strict three day lockdown from Friday evening.

Despite pleas from the Queensland Premier and chief health officer, queues quickly formed outside the city’s supermarkets and shelves were rapidly emptied.


No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied.  Roll Eyes



Lol   Grin

Idiots.

Three days.  They don't have enough food etc. to last three days?

FFS   Roll Eyes
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lol... yep... I had to double check just to make sure the lockdown was for 3 days and not 3 months. Grin
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Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:49am:
I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?


And... they're off and running again...

Thousands of shoppers flock to Brisbane supermarkets ahead of three day lockdown


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/thousands-of-shoppers-f...

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Panic buying has broken out across Greater Brisbane as the city prepares to enter a strict three day lockdown from Friday evening.

Despite pleas from the Queensland Premier and chief health officer, queues quickly formed outside the city’s supermarkets and shelves were rapidly emptied.


No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied.  Roll Eyes



Three days my arse.....this will be extended.
And....
What did the premier expect?
Stupid bitch forces an illegal lock down and the scared people go crazy.
The dumb fkkk would have known this would happen. If she didn't then she needs new advisors.

What good does pleading over the air do pubslut? 
You and your dumbarse health advisors can eat a dick. You create unease because you're fkkkn retarded. They all are.


Funny thing is.....
You can still go to work.
Can still go shopping.
So long as the multi nationals are filling their bank accounts.
Oh....And it starts at 6pm on Friday..... why not straight away?  Grin Grin Grin
What everyone in Brisbane needs to do is stay home all together. No one leave home for one whole week.
No doctors, no supermarkets, no petrol.....nothing. Shut the joint down. Like a blockade on a job site.


bugger you Anna whatevertgebuggeryourlastnameis slut.
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Reply #23 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 1:57pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 11:45am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 9:49am:
I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?


And... they're off and running again...

Thousands of shoppers flock to Brisbane supermarkets ahead of three day lockdown


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/thousands-of-shoppers-f...

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Panic buying has broken out across Greater Brisbane as the city prepares to enter a strict three day lockdown from Friday evening.

Despite pleas from the Queensland Premier and chief health officer, queues quickly formed outside the city’s supermarkets and shelves were rapidly emptied.


No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied.  Roll Eyes



Three days my arse.....this will be extended.
And....
What did the premier expect?
Stupid bitch forces an illegal lock down and the scared people go crazy.



How is it illegal?

Which law, exactly, has been contravened?

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Reply #24 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:26pm
 
Just got back from Belmont Forum shopping centre.

Very busy up there at the moment - especially Coles and Woolworths. Haven't seen as many cars entering the shopping centre carparks from the surrounding streets since just before Christmas.

Has the panic buying started again in Perth?

(Maybe they're all going to the shopping centres to escape the heat? 40 degrees outside right now).
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Reply #25 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:46pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:26pm:
Just got back from Belmont Forum shopping centre.

Very busy up there at the moment - especially Coles and Woolworths. Haven't seen as many cars entering the shopping centre carparks from the surrounding streets since just before Christmas.

Has the panic buying started again in Perth?

(Maybe they're all going to the shopping centres to escape the heat? 40 degrees outside right now).


I'm guessing it's the heat.

I'm not moving from air conditioned comfort today.

Currently 40.2 degrees outside.

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There is a disease in Victoria Park, WA that is killing the lives of thousands.
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Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin

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LOL.

the premier has seen how many votes there are in

1  manufacturing a problem
2  offering yourself as the solution to the problem.

he could ring Dr Jill Biden for some advice perhaps?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.
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Reply #30 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:33pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.

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Geez, one hotel worker gets a positive to COVID and the whole of WA goes into lockdown!
Why don’t they just lock down the suburbs where it strikes?
So these hotel workers get the Covid because of returned OS travellers?
Maybe lockdown the towns these quarantine hotels are in?

Well 5 days lockdown is better than 5 months!

So here’s Queensland about to open borders to NSW and WA shut shop.

Nothing is certain except... this virus will never go away in this immediate future.

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Sophia wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:35pm:
Geez, one hotel worker gets a positive to COVID and the whole of WA goes into lockdown!
Why don’t they just lock down the suburbs where it strikes?
So these hotel workers get the Covid because of returned OS travellers?
Maybe lockdown the towns these quarantine hotels are in?

Well 5 days lockdown is better than 5 months!

So here’s Queensland about to open borders to NSW and WA shut shop.

Nothing is certain except... this virus will never go away in this immediate future.



The quarantine hotel is in the Perth CBD    Sad
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:49pm:
Sophia wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:35pm:
Geez, one hotel worker gets a positive to COVID and the whole of WA goes into lockdown!
Why don’t they just lock down the suburbs where it strikes?
So these hotel workers get the Covid because of returned OS travellers?
Maybe lockdown the towns these quarantine hotels are in?

Well 5 days lockdown is better than 5 months!

So here’s Queensland about to open borders to NSW and WA shut shop.

Nothing is certain except... this virus will never go away in this immediate future.



The quarantine hotel is in the Perth CBD    Sad

So is just Perth going into lockdown? Or the whole of WA? And border closed again?
I heard on news there may be that spread of mutant Covid in Melbourne that came from Perth  Undecided
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Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!
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Just had a call from my doctor (who works at the same medical practice as the doctor my aunt goes to), he says we can't go there tomorrow and my aunt's doctor will be calling at around about the time of her appointment tomorrow (10:45am) and she'll decide if my aunt needs to go in and see her and in the meantime she will give my aunt advice about her hip issue over the phone (she does seem a little better this afternoon, I actually bought her a cheap walking stick at KMart Belmont Forum this morning and its making it a lot easier for her to move around the house).

We'll probably get a call tomorrow cancelling her eye checkup at Murdoch on Tuesday, we're not too worried about that one at this stage, it can be rescheduled for later if necessary.

I recall reading about an article published in one of the Eastern States newspapers recently where the writer described these increasing number of "Aussies" wanting to return to Australia as "Biological Terrorists". Of course, that description never made it into the actual published article. Gee, I wonder why?
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Sophia wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:03pm:
Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!


There's been a lot of talk about that recently. But, no action so far, of course.

When you have some of these "returned traveller Karens" complaining about having to spend 2 weeks in quarantine at 5 star inner city hotels you can probably imagine the outrage from a lot of them if they had to quarantine at places like remote mining camps, etc.

Carl's comment: "Don't like it? Don't bother coming to Australia".
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Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


They're Australians, they're allowed to return home.  Shocked
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Reply #38 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:30pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:03pm:
Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!


There's been a lot of talk about that recently. But, no action so far, of course.

When you have some of these "returned traveller Karens" complaining about having to spend 2 weeks in quarantine at 5 star inner city hotels you can probably imagine the outrage from a lot of them if they had to quarantine at places like remote mining camps, etc.

Carl's comment: "Don't like it? Don't bother coming to Australia".


Bloody hell you go on. You hear from a few people not enjoying their lodgings but the vast majority just do the time and catch up on their reading.
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They're Australians, they're allowed to return home.  Shocked


Yeah, right.

I'm still prepared to bet that the majority of them have been living overseas for years (for things like tax purposes) and now that things are getting a bit "virussy" where they're living they suddenly want to become "dinky di Aussies" again.

And, I bet they'll be off overseas again as soon as the pandemic is over. While still retaining their Australian citizenship, of course. Stuff 'em.
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Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:27pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


They're Australians, they're allowed to return home.  Shocked


When it's safe.

Until then, stay the hell away.

They chose to leave the country - they weren't forced.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.



these appointments will need to be cancelled.

only covid matters.

other medical conditions are not to be taken into consideration
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Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:22pm:
Just had a call from my doctor (who works at the same medical practice as the doctor my aunt goes to), he says we can't go there tomorrow and my aunt's doctor will be calling at around about the time of her appointment tomorrow (10:45am) and she'll decide if my aunt needs to go in and see her and in the meantime she will give my aunt advice about her hip issue over the phone (she does seem a little better this afternoon, I actually bought her a cheap walking stick at KMart Belmont Forum this morning and its making it a lot easier for her to move around the house).

We'll probably get a call tomorrow cancelling her eye checkup at Murdoch on Tuesday, we're not too worried about that one at this stage, it can be rescheduled for later if necessary.

I recall reading about an article published in one of the Eastern States newspapers recently where the writer described these increasing number of "Aussies" wanting to return to Australia as "Biological Terrorists".Of course, that description never made it into the actual published article. Gee, I wonder why?


Umm, because they are not?
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Its time the Federal and State governments started to get their sh*t together REAL QUICK and STOP GAMBLING WITH PEOPLES' LIVES in this country.

They need to:

1. Make sure people are tested for COVID-19 BEFORE they get on a plane to Australia (we keep hearing about that but when will they start doing it?)

2. Quarantine these "returned travellers" OUTSIDE of the major cities (we keep hearing about that one too but so far... yep, you guessed it... all talk and no action).

3. If they can't implement 1 and 2 then CLOSE THE DAMN BORDERS PROPERLY until the pandemic is under control overseas.

I've read somewhere recently that there are an increasing number of people in this country who are getting mighty p***ed off with all of these "returned travellers" bringing COVID-19 into Australia. I can't say I'm surprised. I bet there's been a big increase in that number just from WA alone after today.
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Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


Sorry to hear that Carl
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Thanks, Sprint.

My aunt is feeling a bit better now. I still believe it was something she did last Thursday - bending over or something like that.

I had a biopsy done on the lump on the right side of my thyroid last July but the results were inconclusive. The doctor at RPH said there was a 15% chance it could be the beginning of thyroid cancer which is why they're (hopefully) removing it on February 25th.

At least I managed to complete my nearly 8 weeks of 5 day a week radiation treatment for prostate cancer (39 "fractions" as they call them) from mid October until mid December before an outbreak of COVID happened here in Perth, that's what I was most concerned about before the treatments started.
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Sophia wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:03pm:
Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!

Because they werent built specifically for COVID19 quarantine.
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Cant even believe that question was asked. I mean, why didnt we have large quarantine hotels fully equipped and with appropriate staff and security  in isolated locations just waiting for an epidemic to come along.
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Cant even believe that question was asked. I mean, why didnt we have large quarantine hotels fully equipped and with appropriate staff and security  in isolated locations just waiting for an epidemic to come along.


I think they want them sent to something like Aboriginal missions. Perhaps Christmas Island or other such facilities even though they would claim those facilities are not fit to send border breachers to.

Perhaps reopen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Head_Quarantine_Station
WA could use Rottnest Island.
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Dictator Mark has this covered.

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COVID-19 Lockdown Sparks Perth Panic Buying | 10 News First.

Dunny paper gone.






In Melbourne during out lockdown -
the plumbers did a roaring trade as people had
flushed kitchen paper towels down the dunnies and
blocked the sewers as they had no crap paper.
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The Sandgropers had better hunker down, the mutant variant is on the loose.
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COVID-19 Lockdown Sparks Perth Panic Buying | 10 News First.

Dunny paper gone.






In Melbourne during out lockdown -
the plumbers did a roaring trade as people had
flushed kitchen paper towels down the dunnies and
blocked the sewers as they had no crap paper.


I've never understood that TP thing, We have two toilets both in bathrooms, toilet paper is handy and all but a trip from the dunny to the shower is not an international flight.

It seems some people think TP for their bungholes is the height of existence. It seems there are a lot of Butt-heads out there.

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Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 10:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 10:25pm:
Cant even believe that question was asked. I mean, why didnt we have large quarantine hotels fully equipped and with appropriate staff and security  in isolated locations just waiting for an epidemic to come along.


I think they want them sent to something like Aboriginal missions. Perhaps Christmas Island or other such facilities even though they would claim those facilities are not fit to send border breachers to.

Perhaps reopen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Head_Quarantine_Station
WA could use Rottnest Island.
I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.
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So, I wonder which hotel quarantine f___up is responsible for this latest outbreak?

Let's see... might have something to do with this new highly contagious strain of COVID-19 spreading through the hotel airconditioning system? Which, last I heard, was the #1 suspect in the Hotel Grand Chancellor in Brisbane outbreak a few weeks back. Although we still haven't seen any results from testing to see if that was the case. They wouldn't be trying to "sweep it under the carpet" and hoping everyone forgets about it, would they?

Or, is it possibly another case of hotel quarantine "guards" not doing their job properly... too busy playing with their phones, sleeping on the job, sleeping with "returned travellers" in quarantine, etc., etc.

One thing is certain - our Premier, Mark McGowan is no doubt very worried right now seeing as we have a State election in just over a month. Which is probably the main reason for the "snap" lockdown.
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I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there. 


I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.
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rhino wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:56pm:
I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there. 


I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.

It's to late for Rottnest Island, you lot are doomed.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 10:59pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 10:25pm:
Cant even believe that question was asked. I mean, why didnt we have large quarantine hotels fully equipped and with appropriate staff and security  in isolated locations just waiting for an epidemic to come along.


I think they want them sent to something like Aboriginal missions. Perhaps Christmas Island or other such facilities even though they would claim those facilities are not fit to send border breachers to.

Perhaps reopen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Head_Quarantine_Station
WA could use Rottnest Island.
I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there. 


Herding cats? I have some experience with that and it sucks.
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Carl D wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 12:05am:
So, I wonder which hotel quarantine f___up is responsible for this latest outbreak?

Let's see... might have something to do with this new highly contagious strain of COVID-19 spreading through the hotel airconditioning system? Which, last I heard, was the #1 suspect in the Hotel Grand Chancellor in Brisbane outbreak a few weeks back. Although we still haven't seen any results from testing to see if that was the case. They wouldn't be trying to "sweep it under the carpet" and hoping everyone forgets about it, would they?

Or, is it possibly another case of hotel quarantine "guards" not doing their job properly... too busy playing with their phones, sleeping on the job, sleeping with "returned travellers" in quarantine, etc., etc.

One thing is certain - our Premier, Mark McGowan is no doubt very worried right now seeing as we have a State election in just over a month. Which is probably the main reason for the "snap" lockdown.


Sleeping bags on a coral outcrop up north somewhere? Dampier Islands? Just not in my back yard, please?  Grin
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rhino wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:56pm:
I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there. 


I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.
yeah, until the first one drowns trying to attempt it.  They will still need to quarantine within their facilities on Rottnest which will require a level of enforcement, that would involve another whole workforce to be recruited, trained and housed appropriately.
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Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.




why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

please realise that if the appointment is non urgent, you need to be a good citizen and do your part.

we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe
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Reply #61 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 7:00am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 11:01am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arres...

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.


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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.


What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


I agree.  Get rid of 'em!

In all seriousness, that woman has some very serious mental issues though so, as a duty of care, the WA Health Department should offer her some help.

Otherwise, she's just gonna be doing stupid irresponsible things wherever she goes.

A little time in a mental health facility wouldn't hurt.


What mental health facility have you got?

Funding has been stripped out of mental health all over the country and many mental health specific facilities have been closed.

That why we have so many nutters living in the general community.

Small psych wards have been set up in some hospitals but resources are limited.

She just needs to be shown that the hotel room was luxury by sticking her in a womens prison cell for a month or two.

"Alternative health practitioner" ....whats that?

A self appointed quack?

Must have been bad as she had to ply her trade in Spain.
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Reply #62 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 7:03am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!




I thought Boris had already done that?

Isn't the UK in lockdown?
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Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:42pm:
what about all those stranded aussies.... Cry Cry Cry

we owe them!


Maybe.

But, as I've said once or twice in the past - I'm prepared to bet that a large number of them are expatriates who have been happily living overseas for years but now that things are getting a bit "virusy" over there they all want to come back to Australia where they believe its safe.

Which it (relatively speaking) is - for the time being.


Yep .... the same as all the dual citizen Lebs that live in Lebanon most of the time .....

and every time things hot up there they demand to be bought back to Aust by the govt because they're Aussie citizens.
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Reply #64 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 9:28am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 7:03am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 3:43pm:
I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.



Absolutely!




I thought Boris had already done that?

Isn't the UK in lockdown?


People can leave the UK by air as long as they test negative to COVID.

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aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.




why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.



If my mother doesn't get immediate medical attention, she might die.

Her appointment was crucial.

She wasn't visiting the place for a bit of recreation - she was accessing vital medical help that will hopefully save her life.

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Lockdowns are a necessary evil to stop the spread, but there must be some common sense involved. The immediate risk of life threatening illness vs. the possible later threat of covid. Easily assessed and the risk can be managed.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 9:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.




why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.



If my mother doesn't get immediate medical attention, she might die.

Her appointment was crucial.

She wasn't visiting the place for a bit of recreation - she was accessing vital medical help that will hopefully save her life.



that would be a decision for the hospital not you.
if they think the visit can be delayed, they will delay it.

you are in a city that has covid.

you could have it and take it into the hospital and infect ill patients,
its not all about you.

the chief health officer must keep the community safe and will make the appropriate decisions
and you must abide by the experts decision
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aquascoot wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 9:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.




why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.



If my mother doesn't get immediate medical attention, she might die.

Her appointment was crucial.

She wasn't visiting the place for a bit of recreation - she was accessing vital medical help that will hopefully save her life.



that would be a decision for the hospital not you.
if they think the visit can be delayed, they will delay it.




The surgeons said it couldn't be delayed.

They've now just called me and said they're rushing her in to emergency surgery.

If I didn't take her to that appointment yesterday, things would have been very different today.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 9:34am:
If my mother doesn't get immediate medical attention, she might die.

Her appointment was crucial.

She wasn't visiting the place for a bit of recreation - she was accessing vital medical help that will hopefully save her life.



Now you understand what that pregnant woman in northern NSW must have been feeling when she was refused access to a QLD hospital.  I hope it turns out better for your mum than it did for her.
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I hope your mother is OK, Greg.

My aunt still has pain in her left hip and has difficulty walking without the stick I bought for her on Sunday.

Because I couldn't take her to the doctor yesterday the doctor called us on the phone and sent a script through to our local chemist for some Prodeine Forte tablets which I picked up a bit later and she needs to take one or two each night before bed. That's on top of the 2 Panadol Osteo tablets in the morning and afternoon.

This lockdown has probably come at a good time for her since she can't leave the house so hopefully it will give her time to recover.
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Carl D wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:41pm:
I hope your mother is OK, Greg.

My aunt still has pain in her left hip and has difficulty walking without the stick I bought for her on Sunday.

Because I couldn't take her to the doctor yesterday the doctor called us on the phone and sent a script through to our local chemist for some Prodeine Forte tablets which I picked up a bit later and she needs to take one or two each night before bed. That's on top of the 2 Panadol Osteo tablets in the morning and afternoon.

This lockdown has probably come at a good time for her since she can't leave the house so hopefully it will give her time to recover.


Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.


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Meanwhile....

'Bunch of cowboys': Insider claims hotel quarantine security guards in Western Australia are mostly foreign students who are paid 'off the books' in cash - and share IDs so they can Uber on the side


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210309/Claims-hotel-quarantine-securit...

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An insider has blasted Western Australia's hotel quarantine system and accused security companies of hiring and exploiting foreign students.

The source claimed guards were paid minimum wage in cash and off the books so they could work double the 20 hours allowed under their visa arrangements.

It was also alleged that hotel security guards were sharing IDs so they could get away with working a second job such as driving for Uber.


This also made front page news in today's West Australian (see attached image).

I'm sure I heard on the news about a month ago that we weren't going to be using these "el cheapo" security guards for hotel quarantine here in Perth anymore and the police and military were going to be used instead after that idiot woman walked out of the Pan Pacific hotel in the city and ended up in Rockingham nearly 50km away.

What happened? Roll Eyes
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Sorry to also hear about your dad, Greg.

Yes, getting old really does suck.
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Carl D wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:
Meanwhile....

'Bunch of cowboys': Insider claims hotel quarantine security guards in Western Australia are mostly foreign students who are paid 'off the books' in cash - and share IDs so they can Uber on the side


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210309/Claims-hotel-quarantine-securit...

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An insider has blasted Western Australia's hotel quarantine system and accused security companies of hiring and exploiting foreign students.

The source claimed guards were paid minimum wage in cash and off the books so they could work double the 20 hours allowed under their visa arrangements.

It was also alleged that hotel security guards were sharing IDs so they could get away with working a second job such as driving for Uber.


This also made front page news in today's West Australian (see attached image).

I'm sure I heard on the news about a month ago that we weren't going to be using these "el cheapo" security guards for hotel quarantine here in Perth anymore and the police and military were going to be used instead after that idiot woman walked out of the Pan Pacific hotel in the city and ended up in Rockingham nearly 50km away.

What happened? Roll Eyes


This is alarming.

McGowan needs to get serious on this poo.

Stop the smacking daily photo ops, and sort this poo out.

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Carl D wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Sorry to also hear about your dad, Greg.

Yes, getting old really does suck.


Sounds worse than it is I suppose.

I got him the latest and best hearing aids recently, so he can hear, when his carers put them in for him (I have Amana Living help me out during the week).

He can walk to the toilet and back, but that's it.

He's totally blind in one eye, but can see shapes and colours in the other.

I usually buy him Maccas or KFC for lunch, and he loves that.

Someone at RPH told me I should watch his salt intake.

I laughed in their face and said he's gonna eat whatever he wants every day for the rest of his life.

He's almost 90 - salt ain't a consideration at this point.


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And another...

‘Recipe for disaster’: Returned traveller sounds alarm over Perth’s Four Points quarantine hotel


https://www.smh.com.au/national/recipe-for-disaster-returned-traveler-sounds-ala...

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An immunocompromised woman staying in the same hotel that produced WA’s first local COVID-19 case in 10 months has warned the hotel is primed for more cases thanks to inadequate ventilation and poor PPE use.

Arsiyanti Ardie arrived in WA from Jakarta on January 21 and was sent straight to the Four Points by Sheraton in Perth where she said hotel staff were being provided with poor quality PPE that was not being worn properly.


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“I kind of look down the hallway to look at the guards sitting on their phones and they will have their masks below their nose and hanging loose,” she said.


Now, isn't that a surprise? Roll Eyes

(I've since read somewhere that the WA government is no longer going to use that hotel for quarantine, wonder which hotel they will try next?)
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Carl D wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:
Meanwhile....

'Bunch of cowboys': Insider claims hotel quarantine security guards in Western Australia are mostly foreign students who are paid 'off the books' in cash - and share IDs so they can Uber on the side


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210309/Claims-hotel-quarantine-securit...

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An insider has blasted Western Australia's hotel quarantine system and accused security companies of hiring and exploiting foreign students.

The source claimed guards were paid minimum wage in cash and off the books so they could work double the 20 hours allowed under their visa arrangements.

It was also alleged that hotel security guards were sharing IDs so they could get away with working a second job such as driving for Uber.


This also made front page news in today's West Australian (see attached image).

I'm sure I heard on the news about a month ago that we weren't going to be using these "el cheapo" security guards for hotel quarantine here in Perth anymore and the police and military were going to be used instead after that idiot woman walked out of the Pan Pacific hotel in the city and ended up in Rockingham nearly 50km away.

What happened? Roll Eyes
The security companies involved in the subcontracting are getting paid $70 per man hour by the govt. to supply the staff. I have heard that in many cases that after taking a big slice they are subcontracting the work out again to other companies who are doing the dodgy stuff to increase their profit. And they all employ Indians who make good call centre workers but shouldnt be trusted with important stuff. Just bums on seats.
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Carl D wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:
Meanwhile....

'Bunch of cowboys': Insider claims hotel quarantine security guards in Western Australia are mostly foreign students who are paid 'off the books' in cash - and share IDs so they can Uber on the side


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210309/Claims-hotel-quarantine-securit...

Quote:
An insider has blasted Western Australia's hotel quarantine system and accused security companies of hiring and exploiting foreign students.

The source claimed guards were paid minimum wage in cash and off the books so they could work double the 20 hours allowed under their visa arrangements.

It was also alleged that hotel security guards were sharing IDs so they could get away with working a second job such as driving for Uber.


This also made front page news in today's West Australian (see attached image).

I'm sure I heard on the news about a month ago that we weren't going to be using these "el cheapo" security guards for hotel quarantine here in Perth anymore and the police and military were going to be used instead after that idiot woman walked out of the Pan Pacific hotel in the city and ended up in Rockingham nearly 50km away.

What happened? Roll Eyes


After what happened in Victoria in the same situation how would another state govt. be as stupid to allow this type of thing to occur?
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Coronavirus WA: Fourth day of no COVID-19 cases from community spread paves way for lockdown to end


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WA has recorded a fourth straight day of zero new locally-acquired cases, keeping Perth and the South West on track for an end to lockdown at 6pm tomorrow.


Fingers crossed.

And, while I'm here I have to wonder why everyone in Perth is locked down at the moment and yet there doesn't seem to have been any reduction in the flights in and out of Perth Airport since the start of the week (I can usually hear them from where I live, even more so when they use the shorter cross runway like they're doing today).

They always say that the majority of flights in and out of Perth are FIFO (Fly In, Fly Out workers) these days but I heard earlier in the week that even those had been drastically reduced due to the sudden lockdown.

I hope a lot of these planes are not carrying more COVID cases ready to cause another hotel quarantine outbreak.

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Carl D wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Coronavirus WA: Fourth day of no COVID-19 cases from community spread paves way for lockdown to end


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WA has recorded a fourth straight day of zero new locally-acquired cases, keeping Perth and the South West on track for an end to lockdown at 6pm tomorrow.


Fingers crossed.

And, while I'm here I have to wonder why everyone in Perth is locked down at the moment and yet there doesn't seem to have been any reduction in the flights in and out of Perth Airport since the start of the week (I can usually hear them from where I live, even more so when they use the shorter cross runway like they're doing today).

They always say that the majority of flights in and out of Perth are FIFO (Fly In, Fly Out workers) these days but I heard earlier in the week that even those had been drastically reduced due to the sudden lockdown.

I hope a lot of these planes are not carrying more COVID cases ready to cause another hotel quarantine outbreak.



Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 4:45pm:
Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.


The masks don't worry me either. Mind you, the only times I've been out of the house since Monday was for a daily walk to the Kooyong Road IGA to get a few things and to get a bit of exercise and I'm there and back in about 40 minutes.

What does worry me though is my aunt, I'm not sure if she can deal with having to wear a mask and she hasn't been out of the house since last Saturday.

She says she's OK but I really need to take her out somewhere before too much longer. Might have to let her try a mask on indoors to see how she goes.



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Carl D wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 5:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 4:45pm:
Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.


The masks don't worry me either. Mind you, the only times I've been out of the house since Monday was for a daily walk to the Kooyong Road IGA to get a few things and to get a bit of exercise and I'm there and back in about 40 minutes.

What does worry me though is my aunt, I'm not sure if she can deal with having to wear a mask and she hasn't been out of the house since last Saturday.

She says she's OK but I really need to take her out somewhere before too much longer. Might have to let her try a mask on indoors to see how she goes.



I was just talking to my father's carer before she went home, and she said she has a few clients who can't wear the masks.

They get anxiety attacks and end up ripping them off.

These poor old buggers want to get out of the house, but the carers aren't allowed to take them anywhere unless they wear a mask (which they refuse to do).

The only slight problem I have is when I wear sunglasses with the mask, the sunglasses continually fog up.

First world problems  Smiley
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Saw this letter in today's West Australian.

Probably something that a lot of people never think about.

We were planning to go somewhere for my aunt's 91st birthday in a few weeks time. Her birthday is on the 25th but unfortunately I'm supposed to be in Royal Perth for an operation that day so I'm hoping we can go somewhere a few days before the 25th.
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aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm:
Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths   Grin



Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.


I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.




why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

please realise that if the appointment is non urgent, you need to be a good citizen and do your part.

we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe


god you're an idiot
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aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe


A letter writer in yesterday's paper begs to differ.

The writer said that after seeing what happened with panic buying in the supermarkets here in Perth last Sunday afternoon just before the lockdown started it was obvious that "we are not all in this together and it was all about self preservation".
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Carl D wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 5:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 4:45pm:
Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.


The masks don't worry me either. Mind you, the only times I've been out of the house since Monday was for a daily walk to the Kooyong Road IGA to get a few things and to get a bit of exercise and I'm there and back in about 40 minutes.

What does worry me though is my aunt, I'm not sure if she can deal with having to wear a mask and she hasn't been out of the house since last Saturday.

She says she's OK but I really need to take her out somewhere before too much longer. Might have to let her try a mask on indoors to see how she goes.




Considering the amount of smoke and ash flying around, the masks are quite welcome at the moment.

81 homes lost so far   Cry

Poor old McGowan's got his hands full.

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Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.





Sorry to hear all that Greg.  I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.
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Considering the amount of smoke and ash flying around, the masks are quite welcome at the moment.

81 homes lost so far   Cry

Poor old McGowan's got his hands full.



An absolute tragedy.

We had small amounts of ash falling from the sky even in Rivervale. I did also notice that the temperature didn't seem to get as high as it was supposed to yesterday which wasn't surprising with the sun being blocked by smoke all day.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:
Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.





Sorry to hear all that Greg.  I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.


Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again  Smiley
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Reply #90 - Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 5:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:
Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.





Sorry to hear all that Greg.  I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.


Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again  Smiley


good to hear it all went well for your mum. The pain will ease with time.

As for your dad, It's the cycle of life.  Good onya for looking after him.
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Reply #91 - Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:19pm
 
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Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again  Smiley



My mother died over 10 years ago and
now my father is dying in a rest home.
As far as I know he's bedridden and in pain.
I can't even go and see him.
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again  Smiley



My mother died over 10 years ago and
now my father is dying in a rest home.
As far as I know he's bedridden and in pain.
I can't even go and see him.


That sucks, Bobby.  Sorry  Cry

My Dad is 90% blind and deaf, but he can walk to the toilet and back (with a walker) and isn't in any pain or discomfort at all.

He's just bored shitless and says he's had enough.

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Carl D wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 5:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:31am:
we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe


A letter writer in yesterday's paper begs to differ.

The writer said that after seeing what happened with panic buying in the supermarkets here in Perth last Sunday afternoon just before the lockdown started it was obvious that "we are not all in this together and it was all about self preservation".



we are all in this together.

the politicians and chief health officers havent missed a pay cheque.

the big business interests are seeing their share prices boom and they are cracking the champagne with their mistresses on their yachts.

and the tourism operators, coffee shop owners, resturant owners, gym owners travel agents and hairdressors are all in it together (as in they are all in bankruptcy court together)
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That sucks, Bobby.  Sorry  Cry

My Dad is 90% blind and deaf, but he can walk to the toilet and back (with a walker) and isn't in any pain or discomfort at all.

He's just bored shitless and says he's had enough.




It's terrible.
I heard my father's voice on the phone -
he sounds very weak and was slurring his words.
He said  " I'm not long for this world "

We don't let animals suffer like this yet it happens to humans -
our own loved ones.
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:22pm:
That sucks, Bobby.  Sorry  Cry

My Dad is 90% blind and deaf, but he can walk to the toilet and back (with a walker) and isn't in any pain or discomfort at all.

He's just bored shitless and says he's had enough.




It's terrible.
I heard my father's voice on the phone -
he sounds very weak and was slurring his words.
He said  " I'm not long for this world "

We don't let animals suffer like this yet it happens to humans -
our own loved ones.



ive often thought that bobby.

when i have gone to nursing homes, i have seen people who have such profound health issues and suffering, that if they were one of my farm animals and i let them suffer like that, the RSPCA would charge me with cruelty.

its quite the double standard
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aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:22pm:
That sucks, Bobby.  Sorry  Cry

My Dad is 90% blind and deaf, but he can walk to the toilet and back (with a walker) and isn't in any pain or discomfort at all.

He's just bored shitless and says he's had enough.




It's terrible.
I heard my father's voice on the phone -
he sounds very weak and was slurring his words.
He said  " I'm not long for this world "

We don't let animals suffer like this yet it happens to humans -
our own loved ones.



ive often thought that bobby.

when i have gone to nursing homes, i have seen people who have such profound health issues and suffering, that if they were one of my farm animals and i let them suffer like that, the RSPCA would charge me with cruelty.

its quite the double standard



That's 100% true - it is cruelty.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2021 at 5:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:
Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.





Sorry to hear all that Greg.  I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.


Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again  Smiley


Glad she's doing well so far and hope the recovery continues goes well.

Just make sure she doesn't stumble across your account here. If she saw you posting photos of innocent children insinuating a link to incest, she'd die of shame of what her son has become.
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WA has always been in isolation from the rest of the world, they are like Tasmanians.
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Well, it looks like we may have dodged yet another COVID-19 'bullet' here in WA although we still have some restrictions like having to wear masks for the next week.

Meanwhile, the numbnuts in Canberra look like they're getting us all lined up for the next wave of outbreaks:

Flight caps to increase, hotel quarantine system to remain - key points from today's National Cabinet meeting


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Flight caps for returned travellers will increase again next week to help get overseas Australians home, the prime minister confirmed today.
National Cabinet met this morning and determined the country's hotel quarantine system would remain despite recent coronavirus transmission in the facilities.


Yeah, like that was a surprise. Hope they're ready for the inevitable lawsuits if the virus gets loose here and people start dying. I know for a fact that if anything happens to my elderly aunt because of COVID-19 my name will be at the top of the list of plaintiffs.

I also found this picture when I was reading a few more articles this morning, can anyone else see the irony there?

(It was taken at Heathrow in London, btw).
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This strain was so deadly it infected ... no one.  Cheesy
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Maybe the virus got bored to death in Dullsville .
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This strain was so deadly it infected ... no one.  Cheesy



it infected the minds of an increasingly hypochondriacal population.

and the treatment the hypochondriacal population are increasingly addicted to is the virtue signalling politician who is happy to demolish businesses and pamder to the "worried well".

the "worried well" hould be very "worried" about a trillion dollar debt and a demolition of tax paying businesses becuase that will mean

way way less services in the future for them

less health care
less aged care
less welfare.

they might not like that much
but that the consequence of hiding under your sheets for 18 months and being a quivering fraidy cat
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(Sorry for bumping this older thread but I didn't want to start a new one or put it in one for other States).

Here we go...

COVID-19 safety breach potentially exposes Perth hospital staff to virus


https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-safety-breach-exposes-perth-hospital-s...

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Three staff members at the Royal Perth Hospital may have been exposed to coronavirus after a safety breach involving a service lift used by a COVID-19 patient.
It has been revealed the lift, used by a ship captain who was treated at the hospital last week, wasn't properly cordoned off, exposing the staff to the potentially deadly virus.
The captain, a man in his 60s, was flown to Perth on Friday night after being evacuated from the cruise ship, the AquaGenie.


Glad I don't have to go anywhere near Royal Perth Hospital for another 5 weeks and WTF are they doing bringing Covid infected people all the way down to Perth from a ship in Karratha? Don't they have any medical facilities up there?

I'm hoping that by this time next week Perth isn't starting another 5 day (or longer) lockdown. Idiots.

(btw, the AquaGenie isn't a cruise ship - its a cargo ship and it has now left Australian waters. Thank goodness).
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Carl D wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:00am:
(Sorry for bumping this older thread but I didn't want to start a new one or put it in one for other States).

Here we go...

COVID-19 safety breach potentially exposes Perth hospital staff to virus


https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-safety-breach-exposes-perth-hospital-s...

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Three staff members at the Royal Perth Hospital may have been exposed to coronavirus after a safety breach involving a service lift used by a COVID-19 patient.
It has been revealed the lift, used by a ship captain who was treated at the hospital last week, wasn't properly cordoned off, exposing the staff to the potentially deadly virus.
The captain, a man in his 60s, was flown to Perth on Friday night after being evacuated from the cruise ship, the AquaGenie.


Glad I don't have to go anywhere near Royal Perth Hospital for another 5 weeks and WTF are they doing bringing Covid infected people all the way down to Perth from a ship in Karratha? Don't they have any medical facilities up there?

I'm hoping that by this time next week Perth isn't starting another 5 day (or longer) lockdown. Idiots.


Jesus   Roll Eyes
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Jesus   Roll Eyes


My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

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A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.


All we ever seem to hear about is reviews into procedures (always after potentially deadly stuff ups are made, just like with hotel quarantine).

Proper procedures should have been in place and enforced since the first Covid case arrived in Australia in late January last year.
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Carl D wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:14am:
Jesus   Roll Eyes


My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

Quote:
A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.


All we ever seem to hear about is reviews into procedures (always after potentially deadly stuff ups are made, just like with hotel quarantine).

Proper procedures should have been in place and enforced since the first Covid case arrived in Australia in late January last year.


We're too complacent here in Perth.

I've got to take both parents to RPH in the next few weeks.

Great   Roll Eyes
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Reply #107 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:32am
 
Hope your parents are OK, Greg.

At least 2 of the 3 potentially infected RPH staff are fully vaccinated and the third has had the first vaccine dose and all 3 are now isolated but that isn't a guarantee that others haven't been infected, of course.
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Roger Cook is handling this well, just ask Mcgowan. Stop your whinging.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 5:10pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:40am:
What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.


Yes.


She is an Australian citizen so they can't do that
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Reply #110 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 2:43pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 9:14am:
Jesus   Roll Eyes


My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

Quote:
A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.


All we ever seem to hear about is reviews into procedures (always after potentially deadly stuff ups are made, just like with hotel quarantine).

Proper procedures should have been in place and enforced since the first Covid case arrived in Australia in late January last year.



given that covid will become an endemic infection, just what level of spread is WA willing to tolerate ?
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Reply #111 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 3:26pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 2:43pm:
given that covid will become an endemic infection, just what level of spread is WA willing to tolerate ?


You need to ask the right people, not us.

Here you go:

https://www.premier.wa.gov.au/Ministers/Mark-McGowan/Pages/Contact.aspx

https://www.premier.wa.gov.au/Ministers/Roger-Cook/Pages/Contact.aspx

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Reply #112 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 3:45pm
 
well the virus isnt going to be interested in the opinion of a beaureacrat politician.

its going to do what it wants to do.

so do you accept that in 6 months, or 1 year or 2 years, there will be community transmission and people being hospitalised and dying from covid or do you think "fortress WA" can continue indefinitely  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #113 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 6:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 3:45pm:
well the virus isnt going to be interested in the opinion of a beaureacrat politician.

its going to do what it wants to do.

so do you accept that in 6 months, or 1 year or 2 years, there will be community transmission and people being hospitalised and dying from covid or do you think "fortress WA" can continue indefinitely  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


"Fortress WA" can continue indefinitely as far as I (and most West Australians, I suspect) am concerned. Or, at least until the Covid pandemic is over.

The only danger to our "fortress" at this stage are mistakes like this:

Another one.

Coronavirus crisis: Full review underway after second PPE breach confirmed at Royal Perth Hospital


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-full-review-unde...

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An investigation is under way after a second COVID breach occurred at Royal Perth Hospital yesterday.

A staff member caring for a COVID-positive patient removed their surgical mask before completely exiting a patient’s room.

The incident was detected immediately and the staff member was placed into self-quarantine.


Quote:
It comes as a service lift at the same hospital was not appropriately cordoned off after it was used to transport the captain of the bulk-carrier MV AquaGenie from the emergency department to the intensive care unit.

Three staff members who were not wearing PPE used the lift prior to it being cleaned.

Mr Cook said the lift should have been cordoned off and the situation was continuing to be reviewed.


I sure hope our good luck with avoiding a major Covid outbreak continues but if things like this keep happening (and with winter approaching) I have my doubts.
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Reply #114 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 8:18pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 3:45pm:
well the virus isnt going to be interested in the opinion of a beaureacrat politician.

its going to do what it wants to do.

so do you accept that in 6 months, or 1 year or 2 years, there will be community transmission and people being hospitalised and dying from covid or do you think "fortress WA" can continue indefinitely  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


"Fortress WA" can continue indefinitely as far as I (and most West Australians, I suspect) am concerned. Or, at least until the Covid pandemic is over.

The only danger to our "fortress" at this stage are mistakes like this:

Another one.

Coronavirus crisis: Full review underway after second PPE breach confirmed at Royal Perth Hospital


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-full-review-unde...

Quote:
An investigation is under way after a second COVID breach occurred at Royal Perth Hospital yesterday.

A staff member caring for a COVID-positive patient removed their surgical mask before completely exiting a patient’s room.

The incident was detected immediately and the staff member was placed into self-quarantine.


Quote:
It comes as a service lift at the same hospital was not appropriately cordoned off after it was used to transport the captain of the bulk-carrier MV AquaGenie from the emergency department to the intensive care unit.

Three staff members who were not wearing PPE used the lift prior to it being cleaned.

Mr Cook said the lift should have been cordoned off and the situation was continuing to be reviewed.


I sure hope our good luck with avoiding a major Covid outbreak continues but if things like this keep happening (and with winter approaching) I have my doubts.



why would it ever be 'over'
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I have to agree with you aqua   a huge over reaction in WA   they will never build up any immunity at that rate... even a lift has to be sterilised...........   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  come on!!!!! 

I can only guess everyone is living in fear over there....  and I am amazed they do not care about this isolation or bubble they will be living in  especially waiting for this virus to wear itself out.... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy which appears to be what they are hoping for....Houston WA has a great big problem..
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Reply #116 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 2:33am
 
I am currently living in WA and there is no isolation, there is the check in app at the stores but one one cares. And their economy is  economy is booming. Huge dollars coming in from iron ore, they can stay isolated indefinitlely
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Reply #117 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:00am
 
cods wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 11:07pm:
I have to agree with you aqua   a huge over reaction in WA   they will never build up any immunity at that rate... even a lift has to be sterilised...........   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  come on!!!!! 

I can only guess everyone is living in fear over there....  and I am amazed they do not care about this isolation or bubble they will be living in  especially waiting for this virus to wear itself out.... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy which appears to be what they are hoping for....Houston WA has a great big problem..


Living in fear?  In WA?

You wouldn't even know there was a pandemic here.

Life is normal.

You have to sign in to pubs and shops with an app - that's about the only change here.

Nobody is living in fear - it's business as usual here.
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Reply #118 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:14am
 
Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world
This virus which seems like it has spread to the corners of the globe incredibly quickly
I think you are living in a fantasy world

And the world will pass you by
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Reply #119 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:22am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:14am:
Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world


No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.
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Reply #120 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:22am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:14am:
Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world


No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.



its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

its just inevitable.

a highly highly infectious respiratory virus which mutates and can spread to the corners of the globe in hours!!!!.

you cant keep a fat lethargic toad out.

you wont be hit hard, so much as have to adapt to the new norm.

community transmission

some deaths

some need for the vulnerable to isolate

lots of vaccinations



fortress WA cant keep out a toad.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

hospitalisations and deaths in texas and florida have plummeted.

back to business as usual.

they are over the pandemic in 15 months.

WA has not even begun to take their medicine.

they are going to be so far left behind , they will rue the day they foolishly thought they could hide under the bed and the tsunami would magicly spare them
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Reply #121 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:20am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:22am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:14am:
Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world


No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.



its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.



No.  It's complacency.

I live here.  I know.

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aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:22am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:14am:
Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world


No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.


you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.



Is English not your first language?

"We're going to get hit hard one day.

"That's what I've been saying for ages."


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Reply #123 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:53am
 
If you get a letter from the tax office saying you are about to be audited

You can do what western Australia is doing

And throw the letter in the bottom drawer

And hope that the threat will just go away

Or you can face up to the threat

And confront it head on



Throwing that audit letter in the bottom drawer
Is making western Australia feel all smug
Because they are able to just ignore it

But that audit letter is your destiny

You can't make the threat go away by ignoring it

The problem just becomes bigger and stronger
And you become smaller and weaker

When I think about the people who are most afraid of this virus
It seems to me they are shrinking away from life
They are becoming smaller and weaker
That's not a fruitful long-term strategy
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Reply #124 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:58am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?



Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death
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Reply #126 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:16am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:09am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?



Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death

It's OK to appropriate words when done advisedly...

In this case it betrays your unenlightened sense of fatalism...

In your cosmos, every disease or catastrophe is destined to become 'endemic', so (particularly where rational and intelligent focus are required) 'resistance is useless'.
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Reply #127 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:22am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:00am:
cods wrote on Apr 19th, 2021 at 11:07pm:
I have to agree with you aqua   a huge over reaction in WA   they will never build up any immunity at that rate... even a lift has to be sterilised...........   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  come on!!!!! 

I can only guess everyone is living in fear over there....  and I am amazed they do not care about this isolation or bubble they will be living in  especially waiting for this virus to wear itself out.... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy which appears to be what they are hoping for....Houston WA has a great big problem..


Living in fear?  In WA?

You wouldn't even know there was a pandemic here.

Life is normal.

You have to sign in to pubs and shops with an app - that's about the only change here.

Nobody is living in fear - it's business as usual here.





you are avoiding the facts mate   closing your borders is not normal living... it cannot be sustained  ..

rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 2:33am:
I am currently living in WA and there is no isolation, there is the check in app at the stores but one one cares. And their economy is  economy is booming. Huge dollars coming in from iron ore, t[highlight]hey can stay isolated indefinitlely




sorry mate I disagree no one can do that....if you only eat iron ore... maybe  Undecided and even then  I still say NO ONE CAN
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:16am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:09am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 6:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:
the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?



Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death

It's OK to appropriate words when done advisedly...

In this case it betrays your unenlightened sense of fatalism...

In your cosmos, every disease or catastrophe is destined to become 'endemic', so (particularly where rational and intelligent focus are required) 'resistance is useless'.



North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes
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Reply #129 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:54am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:42am:
North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:42am:
North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.



North what has got into you

You appear to be channeling Gregory

Are you denying that measles and mumps and chickenpox are still endemic diseases

Aqua scooter is very much in favour of vaccinations
To reduce the number of infections

This is the case for measles and mumps and rubella and chickenpox
But are you saying they have been eradicated
Not as far as I am aware

And if we accept that there are going to be ongoing cases for the foreseeable future
Then how can you justify the concept of fortress western Australia

It makes no sense
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Reply #131 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:05am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:02am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 7:42am:
North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.



North what has got into you

You appear to be channeling Gregory

Are you denying that measles and mumps and chickenpox are still endemic diseases

Aqua scooter is very much in favour of vaccinations
To reduce the number of infections

This is the case for measles and mumps and rubella and chickenpox
But are you saying they have been eradicated
Not as far as I am aware

And if we accept that there are going to be ongoing cases for the foreseeable future
Then how can you justify the concept of fortress western Australia

It makes no sense

I think I know your greatest inner fear... You fear that every thought that comes into your head is not immediately true... I'd bet you can't tell the difference between whether you dreamed something or read it.
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Reply #132 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:26am
 
Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked Shocked
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Reply #133 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:32am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:26am:
Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked Shocked

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.
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Reply #134 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 9:23am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:32am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 8:26am:
Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked Shocked

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.


He doesn't understand.

No matter how many times you explain something to him, he just ignores it and goes off on his own completely irrelevant tangent.

It's weird.
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Reply #135 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 10:58am
 
Not as weird as trying to construct fortress western Australia Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #136 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 1:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:34am:

 
you wont be hit hard, so much as have to adapt to the new norm.

community transmission

some deaths

some need for the vulnerable to isolate

lots of vaccinations [/quote[


fortress WA cant keep out a toad.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

hospitalisations and deaths in texas and florida have plummeted.

back to business as usual.

they are over the pandemic in 15 months.

WA has not even begun to take their medicine.

they are going to be so far left behind , they will rue the day they foolishly thought they could hide under the bed and the tsunami would magicly spare them
so all this has occurred with a vaccination program starting. Whats your point? The fact that WA due its geographical isolation has been more successful in being able to isolate, so what? No other place in Australia is attempting herd immunity by way of allowing community transmission and overseas experience has already shown that to be a dismal failure, the virus is now mutating in Brazil and India due to this tactic and becoming more deadly.

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Reply #137 - Apr 22nd, 2021 at 10:14am
 
Looks like quarantine in city hotels is still as dangerous as ever.

Two people catch UK coronavirus strain while in Perth hotel quarantine, sparking India ban call


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-21/two-people-contract-covid-19-while-in-per...

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Two people staying at a Perth quarantine hotel have contracted the UK strain of COVID-19 from returned overseas travellers from India who were in another room.

The WA Health Department said the infections were previously reported as being acquired overseas, but genome sequencing data had since revealed the two people caught the virus at the hotel.

The guests caught the virus from an infected couple who were staying in a room opposite them at the Mercure Hotel in Perth.


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In a statement, Mr McGowan called for Australia to consider temporarily banning all travellers from India from entering the country.


Good idea, Mark. An even better one would be to spend some of the billions of dollars in mining royalties you're getting at the moment and (re)open and expand quarantine facilities on Rottnest Island for ALL "returned travellers", not just the ones from India.
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Reply #138 - Apr 22nd, 2021 at 10:24am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 22nd, 2021 at 10:14am:
Looks like quarantine in city hotels is still as dangerous as ever.

Two people catch UK coronavirus strain while in Perth hotel quarantine, sparking India ban call


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-21/two-people-contract-covid-19-while-in-per...

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Ban arrivals from India: McGowan


[quote]WA Premier Mark McGowan's office said the returned overseas travellers who passed on the virus had arrived from India.

In a statement, Mr McGowan called for Australia to consider temporarily banning all travellers from India from entering the country.
On the right track here. I would prefer indefinite to temporary though.

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Coronavirus crisis: WA Health knew Mercure hotel was 'high-risk'


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/two-contract-covid-in-wa-hotel-quar...

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There are fresh concerns over Western Australia’s hotel quarantine system after a pregnant mother and her four-year-old daughter contracted COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine.

Genomic testing has confirmed the virus spread to the pair at Perth’s Mercure Hotel from a couple who had returned from India and were staying across the corridor.

It also emerged that the government had known for weeks that the Mercure was the highest-risk of WA’s quarantine hotels due to ventilation issues.

Premier Mark McGowan on Thursday announced the Mercure would no longer accommodate returned overseas travellers.


Oh, and...

West Australian Premier concedes quarantine hotel at centre of COVID-19 transmission is ‘not one of the best’


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/west-australian-premier...

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Authorities have begun an investigation into how the transmission occurred.

“Somehow, between two rooms that had closed doors, there has been transmission,” Mr McGowan said.

“We’re doing everything we can to make sure we test anyone who was on the floor during the relevant period to make sure there was no further transmission into the broader community.

“At this point in time, we have no indication there was further transmission. The relevant people on the floor were required to wear PPE.

“We put in place measures to keep them away from the room in question. We put in place HEPA filters which filter the air.


Obviously, the HEPA filters are not sufficient to prevent airborne transmission of the virus in hotels.

And, weren't the airlines telling us just recently that the HEPA filters on their planes prevent the spread of Covid between passengers during the flights? Judging by the number of "returned travellers" arriving with Covid it doesn't look like the filters work too well on planes either. Especially when everyone is supposed to test negative before they board the flights to Australia.
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Reply #140 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 8:09am
 
One has to laugh

Fortress western Australia

Isolation for the rest of eternity

Can't even keep out a slow moving cane toad

But think they can keep out possibly the world's most contagious airborne respiratory virus


The entire state is living in lala land Grin Grin
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Reply #141 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:19am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 8:09am:
One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia


"Fortress Western Australia" has been doing just fine for the past 12 months even with the occasional stuff up with hotel quarantine, etc.

The only threat to our "fortress" (and the rest of Australia) is this never ending stream of "returned travellers" bringing Covid back with them - especially the new strains - and the continuing dangerous use of inner city hotels for quarantine.

Apart from that, Perth (and the whole of WA) is back to our pre Covid way of life. For now, at least. Mind you, apart from the one 5 day lockdown a couple of months ago we've pretty much had a 'normal' existence here since the start of the pandemic.

But, this 'normal' way of life does cause a high level of complacency amongst the population (no social distancing or using contact tracing apps or pen and paper when entering shops, etc.) which will make any Covid outbreak more difficult to control.
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Reply #142 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:40am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:19am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 8:09am:
One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia


"Fortress Western Australia" has been doing just fine for the past 12 months even with the occasional stuff up with hotel quarantine, etc.

The only threat to our "fortress" (and the rest of Australia) is this never ending stream of "returned travellers" bringing Covid back with them - especially the new strains - and the continuing dangerous use of inner city hotels for quarantine.

Apart from that, Perth (and the whole of WA) is back to our pre Covid way of life. For now, at least. Mind you, apart from the one 5 day lockdown a couple of months ago we've pretty much had a 'normal' existence here since the start of the pandemic.

But, this 'normal' way of life does cause a high level of complacency amongst the population (no social distancing or using contact tracing apps or pen and paper when entering shops, etc.) which will make any Covid outbreak more difficult to control.


I walked past the Mecure Hotel (a quarantine hotel) in the CBD this morning at 7am, and there were police in masks everywhere.

There was a 000 bus parked outside, with police cars (flashing lights on) at front and back.

Not sure what's going on there    Undecided

New arrivals from the airport I guess (?)
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Reply #143 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:46am
 
Hi, Greg.

They might be moving "high risk" quarantined people to another hotel?

Perth coronavirus quarantine hotel stops taking travellers after guests infected in their room

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/no-more-travellers-at-wa-quarantine-hotel...

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The West Australian Premier says Perth's Mercure Hotel will not take any new returned overseas travellers after the virus was transmitted between people in quarantine who were staying in separate rooms.


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He therefore recommended the Mercure should be used for very low-risk guests.

Mr Cook said the government was in the process of transitioning the hotel to a dedicated low-risk facility when the transmission event was detected.


Rottnest Island still seems like a good choice to me.

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Reply #144 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:54am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:46am:
Hi, Greg.

They might be moving "high risk" quarantined people to another hotel?

Perth coronavirus quarantine hotel stops taking travellers after guests infected in their room

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/no-more-travellers-at-wa-quarantine-hotel...

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The West Australian Premier says Perth's Mercure Hotel will not take any new returned overseas travellers after the virus was transmitted between people in quarantine who were staying in separate rooms.


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Health Minister Roger Cook said the Chief Health Officer had found all 10 hotels were suitable for quarantine, but some represented a lower risk than others.

He therefore recommended the Mercure should be used for very low-risk guests.

Mr Cook said the government was in the process of transitioning the hotel to a dedicated low-risk facility when the transmission event was detected.


Rottnest Island still seems like a good choice to me.



Ah, that must be it.

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Passenger who returned to Melbourne from Perth has tested positive for COVID

A Victorian man has tested positive for COVID-19 in Melbourne after completing 14 days of quarantine at a Western Australian hotel at the centre of a coronavirus outbreak.

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2 Indian families next door to each other in  adjacent rooms and Indian security guards. Maybe that was the issue.
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Carl D wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 9:19am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 8:09am:
One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia


"Fortress Western Australia" has been doing just fine for the past 12 months even with the occasional stuff up with hotel quarantine, etc.

The only threat to our "fortress" (and the rest of Australia) is this never ending stream of "returned travellers" bringing Covid back with them - especially the new strains - and the continuing dangerous use of inner city hotels for quarantine.

Apart from that, Perth (and the whole of WA) is back to our pre Covid way of life. For now, at least. Mind you, apart from the one 5 day lockdown a couple of months ago we've pretty much had a 'normal' existence here since the start of the pandemic.

But, this 'normal' way of life does cause a high level of complacency amongst the population (no social distancing or using contact tracing apps or pen and paper when entering shops, etc.) which will make any Covid outbreak more difficult to control.



past 12 months   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe
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Reply #148 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 1:16pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 1:04pm:
get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe

Not wit all dat iron ore we ain't!
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 1:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 1:04pm:
get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe

Not wit all dat iron ore we ain't!



yeah,

that should employ 20 blokes and a dragline.

what are the rest going to do/

hide under their bed and live on twiggy forrests royalties?
how mediocre
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We're in lockdown!

Man, there'll be some toilet paper fights at Woollies this afternoon  Grin

From midnight tonight, Perth is in lockdown for three days.

The entire long weekend (we get two Anzac Day holidays - Sunday and Monday).

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I had a funny feeling this was coming, so yesterday I did all my shopping (for myself and my parents), filled up the car with petrol, and filled the wine racks, etc.

Perth and Peel plunged into three-day lockdown after quarantine hotel COVID transmission

Perth and the Peel region have been plunged into a three-day lockdown after several people contracted COVID-19 while staying in hotel quarantine.

The lockdown will begin at midnight tonight. Masks will be mandatory from 6pm, although the Premier Mark McGowan recommended people wear them immediately.

Anzac Day services around the Perth and Peel regions have been cancelled, with Mr McGowan urging people to take part in driveway dawn services instead.


I'm quite looking forward to a long-weekend of Netflix, guitar playing (and maintenance), and relaxing outside with a good book and a glass of wine.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:
I had a funny feeling this was coming, so yesterday I did all my shopping (for myself and my parents), filled up the car with petrol, and filled the wine racks, etc.

Perth and Peel plunged into three-day lockdown after quarantine hotel COVID transmission

Perth and the Peel region have been plunged into a three-day lockdown after several people contracted COVID-19 while staying in hotel quarantine.

The lockdown will begin at midnight tonight. Masks will be mandatory from 6pm, although the Premier Mark McGowan recommended people wear them immediately.

Anzac Day services around the Perth and Peel regions have been cancelled, with Mr McGowan urging people to take part in driveway dawn services instead.


I'm quite looking forward to a long-weekend of Netflix, guitar playing (and maintenance), and relaxing outside with a good book and a glass of wine.


i would slit my wrists if i  had to do that for 3 days.

i would wake up at 6 am saturday and be bored by 6.05  Cry Cry Cry
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Reply #153 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:
I had a funny feeling this was coming, so yesterday I did all my shopping (for myself and my parents), filled up the car with petrol, and filled the wine racks, etc.

Perth and Peel plunged into three-day lockdown after quarantine hotel COVID transmission

Perth and the Peel region have been plunged into a three-day lockdown after several people contracted COVID-19 while staying in hotel quarantine.

The lockdown will begin at midnight tonight. Masks will be mandatory from 6pm, although the Premier Mark McGowan recommended people wear them immediately.

Anzac Day services around the Perth and Peel regions have been cancelled, with Mr McGowan urging people to take part in driveway dawn services instead.


I'm quite looking forward to a long-weekend of Netflix, guitar playing (and maintenance), and relaxing outside with a good book and a glass of wine.


i would slit my wrists if i  had to do that for 3 days.

i would wake up at 6 am saturday and be bored by 6.05  Cry Cry Cry


It's gonna be great.

I get up at 4am most days.

I'll have plenty of time this long-weekend to catch up with a lot of stuff.

And I get out of two lunches that I didn't really want to go to   Smiley
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I am forced to live in Perth at the moment, luckily not in a dog box apartment.  We went into the city today for the promise of a decent meal.  What I noticed, lots of homeless, lots and lots of homeless camped in shop doorways everywhere and on the street begging and carrying on.   I havent seen that many homeless anywhere since I was in SF during the GFC. The city appeared to be nearly deserted apart from the homeless, lots of businesses closed down and a lot looking like they were hanging on by a shoestring. Refuse and garbage everywhere, junkies shooting up in full view. It really was depressing. No cops around but quite a few Indian security guards patrolling the malls in groups of 3 and ignoring anti social behaviour, the guards all seemed pretty fearful. The suburbs are thriving, I think Perth city has had it though. You cant charge $15 an hour for parking for this sh1te.
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rhino wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:
I am forced to live in Perth at the moment, luckily not in a dog box apartment.  We went into the city today for the promise of a decent meal.  What I noticed, lots of homeless, lots and lots of homeless camped in shop doorways everywhere and on the street begging and carrying on.   I havent seen that many homeless anywhere since I was in SF during the GFC. The city appeared to be nearly deserted apart from the homeless, lots of businesses closed down and a lot looking like they were hanging on by a shoestring. Refuse and garbage everywhere, junkies shooting up in full view. It really was depressing. No cops around but quite a few Indian security guards patrolling the malls in groups of 3 and ignoring anti social behaviour, the guards all seemed pretty fearful. The suburbs are thriving, I think Perth city has had it though. You cant charge $15 an hour for parking for this sh1te.


Yep, I was in the city today and you've described it perfectly.

Unfortunately, it's like that every day.

The amount of homeless people and beggars is truly amazing.

There are two now who live in my office doorway.

London Court is up for sale at the moment - I don't think they'll get much for it.

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Reply #156 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 1:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:12pm:
We're in lockdown!

Man, there'll be some toilet paper fights at Woollies this afternoon  Grin

From midnight tonight, Perth is in lockdown for three days.

The entire long weekend (we get two Anzac Day holidays - Sunday and Monday).



Well, this is uncanny... when we had the first lockdown a few months back the first I heard about it was when I read your post on this forum at the time and the same happened when I came here yesterday afternoon.  Shocked (I've been busy trying to sort out a problem with my older PC last night and again this morning and I finally gave up).

Anyway, back to the topic. What I would like to see is all the small businesses who are losing so much money (or even their entire business) due to this latest lockdown get together and start a class action lawsuit against the Federal and/or State government then we might see how quickly they sort out this ongoing hotel quarantine fiasco.

As I've said before, I'm amazed at how quickly the Federal and State governments have set up things like Covid contact tracing apps, etc. but when it comes to setting up proper quarantine (i.e. not in city hotels) for all these "returned travellers" (and also things like helping the unemployed and homeless) they're slower than a wet week.

I know the owners of 2 small businesses, one lost $20,000 and the other $5,000 during the last 5 day lockdown and I'm pretty sure they're not too happy right now. And, they're just the "tip of the iceberg", so to speak. Also, with JobKeeper finished, there will be a lot of staff (especially casuals) who won't be getting any pay over the long weekend.

I wouldn't want to be a casual worker who has rent to pay - especially since rents have skyrocketed here after the WA rent increase/eviction moratorium finished at the end of March.

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‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


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The Victorian man, who has since returned to Melbourne, spent five days in Perth as a ‘tourist’ visiting several sites and transmitted the virus to a Kardinya receptionist who had hosted him at her home.


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“The person in the hotel the other day who was infectious had recently gone to India, who passed it onto the people across the corridor,” Mr McGowan said.

“It was not his fault that it spread across the corridor. But the fact of the matter is the Commonwealth let him go to India recently.”

Mr McGowan said Australians travelling to countries with large COVID numbers and then returning a positive test had become a growing problem. Some, he said, had travelled to Europe and Africa to attend sporting events.

“We should be dealing with that issue,” he said.


"Just nuts" is probably the politest way to describe it. WTF is wrong with people? Especially the Federal government for allowing these people to travel. I'm surprised we're not overrun with Covid in Australia by now.
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Carl D wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-l...

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A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.


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The Victorian man, who has since returned to Melbourne, spent five days in Perth as a ‘tourist’ visiting several sites and transmitted the virus to a Kardinya receptionist who had hosted him at her home.


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Premier Mark McGowan made the revelations during a press conference this afternoon, adding it was “just nuts” the federal government had allowed people to travel to high-risk countries.

“The person in the hotel the other day who was infectious had recently gone to India, who passed it onto the people across the corridor,” Mr McGowan said.

“It was not his fault that it spread across the corridor. But the fact of the matter is the Commonwealth let him go to India recently.”

Mr McGowan said Australians travelling to countries with large COVID numbers and then returning a positive test had become a growing problem. Some, he said, had travelled to Europe and Africa to attend sporting events.

“We should be dealing with that issue,” he said.


"Just nuts" is probably the politest way to describe it. WTF is wrong with people? Especially the Federal government for allowing these people to travel. I'm surprised we're not overrun with Covid in Australia by now.


Yep, crazy.

A stupid wedding has now disrupted 2 million people, and put many at risk of infection.

FFS   Roll Eyes
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Reply #159 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 7:01pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:
I am forced to live in Perth at the moment, luckily not in a dog box apartment.  We went into the city today for the promise of a decent meal.  What I noticed, lots of homeless, lots and lots of homeless camped in shop doorways everywhere and on the street begging and carrying on.   I havent seen that many homeless anywhere since I was in SF during the GFC. The city appeared to be nearly deserted apart from the homeless, lots of businesses closed down and a lot looking like they were hanging on by a shoestring. Refuse and garbage everywhere, junkies shooting up in full view. It really was depressing. No cops around but quite a few Indian security guards patrolling the malls in groups of 3 and ignoring anti social behaviour, the guards all seemed pretty fearful. The suburbs are thriving, I think Perth city has had it though. You cant charge $15 an hour for parking for this sh1te.


Yep, I was in the city today and you've described it perfectly.

Unfortunately, it's like that every day.

The amount of homeless people and beggars is truly amazing.

There are two now who live in my office doorway.

London Court is up for sale at the moment - I don't think they'll get much for it.




And you bozos re-elected big girl's McGown.
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Reply #160 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 7:46pm
 

Perth records positive community-transmitted coronavirus case on day one of lockdown

The WA Health Department has confirmed a positive COVID test result has been returned from a person within the community on day one of Perth's snap lockdown.

The man in his 40s presented for a COVID-19 test yesterday as he had gone to one of the locations visited by the COVID-positive Victorian case.


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Reply #161 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 9:24pm
 
It must be everywhere by now. I saw the list of places he visited, 2 different restaurants every day plus other facilities.
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Reply #162 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 9:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 7:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:
I am forced to live in Perth at the moment, luckily not in a dog box apartment.  We went into the city today for the promise of a decent meal.  What I noticed, lots of homeless, lots and lots of homeless camped in shop doorways everywhere and on the street begging and carrying on.   I havent seen that many homeless anywhere since I was in SF during the GFC. The city appeared to be nearly deserted apart from the homeless, lots of businesses closed down and a lot looking like they were hanging on by a shoestring. Refuse and garbage everywhere, junkies shooting up in full view. It really was depressing. No cops around but quite a few Indian security guards patrolling the malls in groups of 3 and ignoring anti social behaviour, the guards all seemed pretty fearful. The suburbs are thriving, I think Perth city has had it though. You cant charge $15 an hour for parking for this sh1te.


Yep, I was in the city today and you've described it perfectly.

Unfortunately, it's like that every day.

The amount of homeless people and beggars is truly amazing.

There are two now who live in my office doorway.

London Court is up for sale at the moment - I don't think they'll get much for it.




And you bozos re-elected big girl's McGown.
To be honest there was no opposition, the Liberals wiped themselves out. But Mcgowan is very popular over here, particularly amongst young people, I have no idea why. But West Aussies will get what they deserve for electing him. Everything has gotten worse since he was elected, hospital system stuffed, OMCG  out of control, meth problem worse, he has no solutions except knee jerk reactions and he is a blatant liar. Look at the way he covered for his old buddy Cook, what a disgrace, blatant lies, the guy thinks hes invincible and look at his ego, blatantly lying to support Cook and knows he will get away with it. Wasnt even questioned in the local media.  West Aussies just arent that bright and he is representative of the population. Its obvious there has been a lot of inbreeding over here.
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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #163 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 10:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-l...

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A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.


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The Victorian man, who has since returned to Melbourne, spent five days in Perth as a ‘tourist’ visiting several sites and transmitted the virus to a Kardinya receptionist who had hosted him at her home.


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Premier Mark McGowan made the revelations during a press conference this afternoon, adding it was “just nuts” the federal government had allowed people to travel to high-risk countries.

“The person in the hotel the other day who was infectious had recently gone to India, who passed it onto the people across the corridor,” Mr McGowan said.

“It was not his fault that it spread across the corridor. But the fact of the matter is the Commonwealth let him go to India recently.”

Mr McGowan said Australians travelling to countries with large COVID numbers and then returning a positive test had become a growing problem. Some, he said, had travelled to Europe and Africa to attend sporting events.

“We should be dealing with that issue,” he said.


"Just nuts" is probably the politest way to describe it. WTF is wrong with people? Especially the Federal government for allowing these people to travel. I'm surprised we're not overrun with Covid in Australia by now.


Yep, crazy.

A stupid wedding has now disrupted 2 million people, and put many at risk of infection.

FFS   Roll Eyes
No, not a stupid wedding. A stupid self entitled Indian.
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Reply #164 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 10:53pm
 
This will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of businesses judging from what I saw in Perth the other day, all entirely due to one stupid self entitled Indian. They need to publish this faukers name.
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Reply #165 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:21pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-l...

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A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.




That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?
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Reply #166 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:23pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:21pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-l...

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A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.




That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?
These people are so good at playing the race card its not funny.
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Reply #167 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:10am
 

On the up side, it's been wonderfully peaceful today.

Hardly any cars driving by - it's great.

Caught up with lots of repairs etc. around the house today.

Quite enjoying this long-weekend lockdown.

Feel real bad for the small businesses though.

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Reply #168 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:56pm
 
Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan reveals new case numbers on day two of lockdown


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan...

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Premier Mark McGowan says West Australians should expect COVID restrictions to continue beyond Monday night, despite no new cases of community transmission being recorded overnight.

Mr McGowan today revealed the only new case of the virus was a returned traveller from India who remains in hotel quarantine.

Despite the encouraging news, the Premier indicated lockdown could continue beyond its scheduled end of midnight tomorrow but refused to reveal how likely it was or how long it would go on for.


I suspect we'll probably be wearing masks for the whole of next week, at least.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:10am:
On the up side, it's been wonderfully peaceful today.

Hardly any cars driving by - it's great.

Caught up with lots of repairs etc. around the house today.

Quite enjoying this long-weekend lockdown.

Feel real bad for the small businesses though.



It is very quiet, isn't it? I went to the Kooyong Road IGA again today and, just like yesterday, there were very few people shopping when I was there (about 10am both days).

Everyone must have fled down south before the lockdown at midnight Friday.

Took advantage of the 'quiet time' to do a bit of work on my PC, put some blue LED fans in - 2 at the top of the case and one at the rear. They were unlit originally. Also replaced the 2 white LED fans at the front with blue ones and also did a bit of tidying up with the cables, etc. (that's the worst thing about building your own PC... cable management). 

I've given up with the second older PC I've also been stuffing around with the past 2 days, I suspect there's something wrong with the power supply because it has damaged 2 Samsung solid state drives over the past couple of months. I've taken the motherboard and graphics card out and put them in storage because I'm sure they're OK. The blue case fans came out and went into the PC I've worked on today (the one in the picture). I'm going the ditch the old case and suspect power supply that's still in it  - I never did like that old case anyway.

I've taken the side panel off for the attached picture, it does have a window on it but it looked better for taking the picture (then I put it back on).
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Reply #169 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:33pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:56pm:
Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan reveals new case numbers on day two of lockdown


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan...

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Premier Mark McGowan says West Australians should expect COVID restrictions to continue beyond Monday night, despite no new cases of community transmission being recorded overnight.

Mr McGowan today revealed the only new case of the virus was a returned traveller from India who remains in hotel quarantine.

Despite the encouraging news, the Premier indicated lockdown could continue beyond its scheduled end of midnight tomorrow but refused to reveal how likely it was or how long it would go on for.


I suspect we'll probably be wearing masks for the whole of next week, at least.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:10am:
On the up side, it's been wonderfully peaceful today.

Hardly any cars driving by - it's great.

Caught up with lots of repairs etc. around the house today.

Quite enjoying this long-weekend lockdown.

Feel real bad for the small businesses though.



It is very quiet, isn't it? I went to the Kooyong Road IGA again today and, just like yesterday, there were very few people shopping when I was there (about 10am both days).

Everyone must have fled down south before the lockdown at midnight Friday.

Took advantage of the 'quiet time' to do a bit of work on my PC, put some blue LED fans in - 2 at the top of the case and one at the rear. They were unlit originally. Also replaced the 2 white LED fans at the front with blue ones and also did a bit of tidying up with the cables, etc. (that's the worst thing about building your own PC... cable management). 

I've given up with the second older PC I've also been stuffing around with the past 2 days, I suspect there's something wrong with the power supply because it has damaged 2 Samsung solid state drives over the past couple of months. I've taken the motherboard and graphics card out and put them in storage because I'm sure they're OK. The blue case fans came out and went into the PC I've worked on today (the one in the picture). I'm going the ditch the old case and suspect power supply that's still in it  - I never did like that old case anyway.

I've taken the side panel off for the attached picture, it does have a window on it but it looked better for taking the picture (then I put it back on).



Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?

And yeah, it's nice and quiet.  I'm loving it   Smiley

I suspect we'll have to wear masks for the next week or so.  No big deal.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #170 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 9:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 6:10am:
On the up side, it's been wonderfully peaceful today.

Hardly any cars driving by - it's great.

Caught up with lots of repairs etc. around the house today.

Quite enjoying this long-weekend lockdown.

Feel real bad for the small businesses though.

Mcgowan doesnt. hes busy defending Cook again over the mecure hotel which should not have been used,. f K up after f up after f up.
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Reply #171 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:00am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:33pm:
Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?


Nah, not really. Apart from the occasional game of old arcade classics on the MAME emulator.

Actually, the motherboard and CPU are 4 years old. Bought in April, 2017. The 24" BenQ monitor was bought in 2015. Here's what's in the computer case right now:

Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 (Kaby Lake) CPU , 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1065 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

The graphics card, computer case and power supply (SilverStone 750W) are recent additions in the last few months. Also, the keyboard and mouse are only a few months old as well - Philips brand (yep, that Philips) bought from BigW at Belmont Forum.

Back to the topic... and the idiocy continues...

Party-goers hide behind plants as police bust house party in Mullaloo on day one of lockdown


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/party-goers-hide-behind-plants-as-p...

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A group of party-goers have taken a leaf of faith, hiding behind plants to avoid police during a bust at an illegal house party in Mullaloo last night


Some people never learn (wish I had a dollar for every time this has been said since the start of the pandemic).

And...

Coronavirus WA: Hundreds of city motorists caught trying to leave at police border checkpoints


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-hundreds-of-city-mot...

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City travellers are continuing to ignore warnings to stay put in a bid to escape the strict coronavirus lockdown.

Just a day after Police Commissioner Chris Dawson urged people to heed isolation advice, Premier Mark McGowan revealed hundreds of travellers were still trying to flee from the restrictions.

Police at eight checkpoints, along with mobile patrols, had uncovered alarming ignorance among the 8334 vehicles which had been stopped since the lockdown came into effect at midnight on Friday.

“As of this morning, a total of 287 vehicles did not have a valid reason to leave Perth and Peel and were turned around,” Mr McGowan said.


The lockdown is for 3 days, people. Not 3 months.

Perhaps they wouldn't have been in such a rush to try and leave if they knew this was going to happen?

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A statement announcing the lockdown read: “Anyone who has travelled outside of the Perth metropolitan area and Peel region since Saturday, April 17, must wear face masks in public from 6pm tonight.”

But at a press conference on Saturday afternoon, the state government went further, saying those who had flocked to the countryside had to stay inside their holiday accommodation and could only go outside for the same four reasons people in Perth and Peel could, including one hour of exercise.


From what I read in today's Sunday Times it doesn't look like anyone was taking any notice of that with the huge crowds at the beaches and markets, etc. down south in the last 2 days. And, how would the police know who was from the Perth/Peel region and who wasn't? Unless they're checking vehicle licence plates which would probably only catch a small number of people anyway.
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Reply #172 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:06am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:00am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:33pm:
Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?


Nah, not really. Apart from the occasional game of old arcade classics on the MAME emulator.

Actually, the motherboard and CPU are 4 years old. Bought in April, 2017. The 24" BenQ monitor was bought in 2015. Here's what's in the computer case right now:

Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 (Kaby Lake) CPU , 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1065 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

The graphics card, computer case and power supply (SilverStone 750W) are recent additions in the last few months. Also, the keyboard and mouse are only a few months old as well - Philips brand (yes, that Philips) bought from BigW at Belmont Forum.

Back to the topic... and the idiocy continues...

Party-goers hide behind plants as police bust house party in Mullaloo on day one of lockdown


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/party-goers-hide-behind-plants-as-p...

Quote:
A group of party-goers have taken a leaf of faith, hiding behind plants to avoid police during a bust at an illegal house party in Mullaloo last night


Some people never learn (wish I had a dollar for every time this has been said since the start of the pandemic).

And...

Coronavirus WA: Hundreds of city motorists caught trying to leave at police border checkpoints


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-hundreds-of-city-mot...

Quote:
City travellers are continuing to ignore warnings to stay put in a bid to escape the strict coronavirus lockdown.

Just a day after Police Commissioner Chris Dawson urged people to heed isolation advice, Premier Mark McGowan revealed hundreds of travellers were still trying to flee from the restrictions.

Police at eight checkpoints, along with mobile patrols, had uncovered alarming ignorance among the 8334 vehicles which had been stopped since the lockdown came into effect at midnight on Friday.

“As of this morning, a total of 287 vehicles did not have a valid reason to leave Perth and Peel and were turned around,” Mr McGowan said.


The lockdown is for 3 days, people. Not 3 months.

Perhaps they wouldn't have been in such a rush to try and leave if they knew this was going to happen?

Quote:
A statement announcing the lockdown read: “Anyone who has travelled outside of the Perth metropolitan area and Peel region since Saturday, April 17, must wear face masks in public from 6pm tonight.”

But at a press conference on Saturday afternoon, the state government went further, saying those who had flocked to the countryside had to stay inside their holiday accommodation and could only go outside for the same four reasons people in Perth and Peel could, including one hour of exercise.


From what I read in today's Sunday Times it doesn't look like anyone was taking any notice of that with the huge crowds at the beaches and markets, etc. down south in the last 2 days. And, how would the police know who was from the Perth/Peel region and who wasn't? Unless they're checking vehicle licence plates which would probably only catch a small number of people anyway.
The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.
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Reply #173 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:46am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:06am:
The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.


Good.

BIG fines, I hope.
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Reply #174 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 10:59am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:46am:
rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:06am:
The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.


Good.

BIG fines, I hope.


BIG fine (and prison time) for this idiot, I'm hoping.

Man pulls knife on WA police officers after mask request outside Nollamara supermarket


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/man-pulls-knife-on-wa-poli...

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A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.


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Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.


Good to see. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to sue the police for injury/stress/whatever. One thing's for sure - there's very little chance of him suffering brain damage (he'd need a brain for that).


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Reply #175 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 11:02am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 10:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:46am:
rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:06am:
The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.


Good.

BIG fines, I hope.


BIG fine (and prison time) for this idiot, I'm hoping.

Man pulls knife on WA police officers after mask request outside Nollamara supermarket


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/man-pulls-knife-on-wa-poli...

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A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.


Quote:
Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.


Good to see. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to sue the police for injury/stress/whatever. One thing's for sure - there's very little chance of him suffering brain damage (he'd need a brain for that).




Jesus Christ!

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Reply #176 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 1:12pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:23pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:21pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-l...

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A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.




That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?
These people are so good at playing the race card its not funny.



We taught them, we encourage them. They are just taking advantage of the West's loss of cultural confidence.

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Gladys had to deal with a much bigger outbreak in the northern beaches and she didnt lock down the entire city.

she has more courage then those living in "fortress WA"  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #178 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 11:02am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 10:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:46am:
rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 12:06am:
The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.


Good.

BIG fines, I hope.


BIG fine (and prison time) for this idiot, I'm hoping.

Man pulls knife on WA police officers after mask request outside Nollamara supermarket


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/man-pulls-knife-on-wa-poli...

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A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.


Quote:
Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.


Good to see. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to sue the police for injury/stress/whatever. One thing's for sure - there's very little chance of him suffering brain damage (he'd need a brain for that).




Jesus Christ!

What the hell is wrong with these people?   Shocked
Mcgowan has created the biggest meth addiction and mental health crisis on the planet per capita and you have to ask this? Didnt we discuss the city full of out of control meth junkies in the CBD  the other day? Whats your mate doing other than defending the pathological liar Cook? You should have voted for the work experience kid.
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Reply #179 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:31pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Gladys had to deal with a much bigger outbreak in the northern beaches and she didnt lock down the entire city.

she has more courage then those living in "fortress WA"  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Its a sh1thole. Homeless and the mentally ill with no facilities literally everywhere, camping on the beaches, central CBD, parks, family play areas. Homeless tents and their used syringes and their rubbish everywhere.
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Reply #180 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:42pm
 
Coronavirus crisis: Perth and Peel lockdown to end at midnight tonight as planned


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WA has recorded no new cases of coronavirus overnight, meaning the snap lockdown will end at midnight tonight as scheduled.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said he wanted to thank everyone for their patience and understanding over the past three days.

“I wish we didn’t have to go into lockdown, but it was necessary and it has worked,” he said.

Some restrictions will still be in place despite the lockdown ending.

“Interim restrictions will come into force from midnight tonight allowing us to take a stepped-down approach after the three-day lockdown,” Mr McGowan said.


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The interim restrictions will be in place from 12.01am Tuesday morning until 12.01am Saturday morning.

From tomorrow, people in Perth and Peel will be free to leave their homes. Masks will remain mandatory indoors, outdoors and on public transport.


That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.
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Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:42pm:
Coronavirus crisis: Perth and Peel lockdown to end at midnight tonight as planned


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-perth-and-peel-l...

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WA has recorded no new cases of coronavirus overnight, meaning the snap lockdown will end at midnight tonight as scheduled.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said he wanted to thank everyone for their patience and understanding over the past three days.

“I wish we didn’t have to go into lockdown, but it was necessary and it has worked,” he said.

Some restrictions will still be in place despite the lockdown ending.

“Interim restrictions will come into force from midnight tonight allowing us to take a stepped-down approach after the three-day lockdown,” Mr McGowan said.


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The interim restrictions will be in place from 12.01am Tuesday morning until 12.01am Saturday morning.

From tomorrow, people in Perth and Peel will be free to leave their homes. Masks will remain mandatory indoors, outdoors and on public transport.


That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.


I'll be working from home all this week, so all good.

And masks don't worry me at all.

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Reply #182 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:44pm:
I'll be working from home all this week, so all good.

And masks don't worry me at all.



Yep, masks are OK with me as well. Even my 91 year old aunt didn't mind wearing them during the last lockdown a few months back. She'll be happy to get out of the house tomorrow, she hasn't been out since last Wednesday.
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Reply #183 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 5:30pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 3:42pm:
Coronavirus crisis: Perth and Peel lockdown to end at midnight tonight as planned


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-perth-and-peel-l...

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WA has recorded no new cases of coronavirus overnight, meaning the snap lockdown will end at midnight tonight as scheduled.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said he wanted to thank everyone for their patience and understanding over the past three days.

“I wish we didn’t have to go into lockdown, but it was necessary and it has worked,” he said.

Some restrictions will still be in place despite the lockdown ending.

“Interim restrictions will come into force from midnight tonight allowing us to take a stepped-down approach after the three-day lockdown,” Mr McGowan said.


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The interim restrictions will be in place from 12.01am Tuesday morning until 12.01am Saturday morning.

From tomorrow, people in Perth and Peel will be free to leave their homes. Masks will remain mandatory indoors, outdoors and on public transport.


That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.



hang on a minute.

covid is going to be with us FOREVER.

is fortress WA really going to keep hotel quarantine going FOREVER.

that sounds insane.

at some point, you must "face your destiny"
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Reply #184 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:50pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 5:30pm:
at some point, you must "face your destiny"


What on earth are you going on about now?

If our "destiny" is to be overrun with Covid like so many other countries (especially India at the moment) it will only be because of the endless stream of "returned travellers" bringing the virus back to Australia with them and the "not fit for purpose" city hotel quarantine system that has failed so dismally up until now.

And, I strongly suspect "Fortress WA" is going to keep hotel quarantine (or preferably something better) going for as long as it takes to try and keep everyone safe, hopefully until everyone's vaccinated or the virus "burns itself out" with any luck.

Time for me to go (tea time). Someone else can play with you now or you can just carry on and play with yourself. Smiley
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Reply #185 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 5:30pm:
at some point, you must "face your destiny"


What on earth are you going on about now?



I don't think even he knows.

He's just an ignorant contrarian who tries to stir up trouble.

Ignore the useless prick.

He's just not worth it.
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Reply #186 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 6:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 5:30pm:
at some point, you must "face your destiny"


What on earth are you going on about now?



I don't think even he knows.

He's just an ignorant contrarian who tries to stir up trouble.

Ignore the useless prick.

He's just not worth it.



Yeah, Carl, go with gweggowry turd,  he's from Perth too. He'll tell you all about his special subjects of  rape and sodomy and irrational fear of white supremacist terrorism.  You can also meet his dad, Bbwian, he's also in Perth. And his cousin, philperth. It's all happenin' in Perf. Go wiv it. Intellectual capital. Take your plunger.

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Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.
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rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 10:19pm:
Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.



no they arent.

peccas position is that

"i enjoy having a chardonay in the back yard and reading a book.  i dont like the footy.
i WONT be getting the vaccine."

therefore, the premier should stop all overseas visitors. if young people want to travel or play sport or study overseas, thats tough titties. i must be protected (despite the fact i wont man up and be vaccinated) and if every other citizen of WA follows my lead, thats just dandy.
we can all stay at home and the federal government can mail us cheques forever and young people can stay in perth also forver because they should learn to appreciate the  life that i have and join me sipping chardonay alone at home and posting my ideology on the internet.

if you have kids or grandkids with plans to move out of WA with a "spirit of adventure", then you should be appalled by the selfish attitude of people like pecca.

the least they could do is do their bit and get vaccinated and stop hiding under the skirts of the girly man premier

hopeless, mediocre and totally self centred
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Reply #189 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:17am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 5:35am:
rhino wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 10:19pm:
Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.



no they arent.

peccas position is that

"i enjoy having a chardonay in the back yard and reading a book.  i dont like the footy.
i WONT be getting the vaccine."

therefore, the premier should stop all overseas visitors. if young people want to travel or play sport or study overseas, thats tough titties. i must be protected (despite the fact i wont man up and be vaccinated) and if every other citizen of WA follows my lead, thats just dandy.
we can all stay at home and the federal government can mail us cheques forever and young people can stay in perth also forver because they should learn to appreciate the  life that i have and join me sipping chardonay alone at home and posting my ideology on the internet.

if you have kids or grandkids with plans to move out of WA with a "spirit of adventure", then you should be appalled by the selfish attitude of people like pecca.

the least they could do is do their bit and get vaccinated and stop hiding under the skirts of the girly man premier

hopeless, mediocre and totally self centred

Careful, scoot, that you're not projecting fear of your own lack of intellectual prowess and your predisposition towards expressing schadenfreude.

'When a shepherd goes to kill a wolf, and takes his dog to see the sport, he should take care to avoid mistakes. The dog has certain relationships to the wolf the shepherd may have forgotten'.

You devoted a lot of posts here to trivialising the virus's effect... Now you're making the claim that we should all get vaccinated as a civic duty (or, in your speak: 'man up and be vaccinated'... I guess you don't mean women aren't bound by your new-found sense of civic duty!)' implying that you were hopelessly wrong about its trivialisation.

Your 'dog' (if you will) is your inability to recognise your own hypocrisy.
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Incorrect North incorrect

Whilst I still consider the virus a non species ending event
And something which should never have been catastrophized

The major devastation of the virus
Is due to the extreme overreaction of those in authority
Who have created ridiculous concepts such as fortress western Australia

We are now in the situation where if we are going to rescue young people
And allow them to have a decent future
We are all going to have to man up and get vaccinated

Not to save us from the devastating effect of a mild respiratory virus

But to save us from the devastating effect of having to continue with this nonsense of devoting every thought breath word and action to covid.


We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

We didn't and instead we have convinced people that the end of the world is upon us
Having gone down that ridiculous rabbit hole
The only way out is for everyone to now become vaccinated

So we have to do this for future generations

Unless you think future generations should never travel because they might infect Gregory and Carl upon their return

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Reply #191 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season


Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.
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Reply #192 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:31am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
Incorrect North incorrect

Whilst I still consider the virus a non species ending event
And something which should never have been catastrophized

The major devastation of the virus
Is due to the extreme overreaction of those in authority
Who have created ridiculous concepts such as fortress western Australia

We are now in the situation where if we are going to rescue young people
And allow them to have a decent future
We are all going to have to man up and get vaccinated

Not to save us from the devastating effect of a mild respiratory virus

But to save us from the devastating effect of having to continue with this nonsense of devoting every thought breath word and action to covid.

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

We didn't and instead we have convinced people that the end of the world is upon us
Having gone down that ridiculous rabbit hole
The only way out is for everyone to now become vaccinated

So we have to do this for future generations

The main issue with this virus is its apparent ability to rapidly mutate into more infectious and more deadly variants.

I assume your reference to 'those in authority' include virologists, medics and clinicians in general - i.e. professionals who have spent their respective entire careers studying pathogens and/or working within the health industry.

Are you actually qualified to contradict their opinion?

Without denigration, why do you think the nation should take the advice of a barely educated farmer over the advice of these professionals?

Should, say, Indians stop worrying and get back to worshipping in their millions in confined places?
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Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season


Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.


aquascoot has spent the last 12 months telling everyone that C19 is a hoax, and that the numbers have been made up by the media and politicians, but now he wants to push old people out of the queue so that he can be the first to get vaccinated.

What a smacking idiot.
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Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

Its been unusually warm in Perth for April which also may have helped to avoid a Covid outbreak but the weather changes at the end of this week with some rain and much cooler temperatures forecast.

Australia is expected to ban ALL flights from India this week. Well, that's a start, at least. Should have been done months ago along with bans from other "high risk" countries until the hotel quarantine fiasco (Australia wide) is sorted out.

Meanwhile, Scotty from Marketing has a message for all of us:

PM warns social media can be 'used by the evil one', in speech to Christian conference


https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-pentecostal-christian-speech-so...

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Scott Morrison, in a recent speech at a Christian conference, called on his fellow attendees to "raise up the spiritual weapons" against the growing tendency and told them the country needed them.


"The Evil One"? Is that Mark McGowan? Anthony Albanese? Anyone who doesn't agree with him? Cheesy Roll Eyes
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Reply #195 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:07am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.


Oh, it'll happen again alright.

Thanks to smacking idiots who refuse to wear masks, social distance, and obey lock-down orders.

Don't throw your masks away yet.

I have a good supply in my car, at work, and at home - we'll be needing them again in the not too distant future (as well as for the rest of this week).


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PM warns social media can be 'used by the evil one', in speech to Christian conference

"The Evil One"? Is that Mark McGowan? Anthony Albanese? Anyone who doesn't agree with him?

Yes, once a politician evokes religious imagery via his (feigned or sincere) religiosity (particularly evoking god(s)/good over demon(s)/evil), you know it's time to watch out...

He risks putting himself in the service of 'evil' to justify his alarm.

He's also a politician and is bound to sometimes choose the best of the worst options... Like defending the behavior of powerful colleagues to whom he owes a debt.
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Reply #197 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:36am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:44am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season


Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.


aquascoot has spent the last 12 months telling everyone that C19 is a hoax, and that the numbers have been made up by the media and politicians, but now he wants to push old people out of the queue so that he can be the first to get vaccinated.

What a smacking idiot.



I think the smacking idiot
Is someone such as yourself
Who demands that young people never be allowed to have a decent life
But also paradoxically demands the right not to be vaccinated
Thereby meaning that the only way to keep a fool such as yourself safe
Is for the younger generations to give up their liberties
So you can sit in your backyard sipping your Chardonnay in safety

How very very selfish
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
Incorrect North incorrect

Whilst I still consider the virus a non species ending event
And something which should never have been catastrophized

The major devastation of the virus
Is due to the extreme overreaction of those in authority
Who have created ridiculous concepts such as fortress western Australia

We are now in the situation where if we are going to rescue young people
And allow them to have a decent future
We are all going to have to man up and get vaccinated

Not to save us from the devastating effect of a mild respiratory virus

But to save us from the devastating effect of having to continue with this nonsense of devoting every thought breath word and action to covid.

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

We didn't and instead we have convinced people that the end of the world is upon us
Having gone down that ridiculous rabbit hole
The only way out is for everyone to now become vaccinated

So we have to do this for future generations

The main issue with this virus is its apparent ability to rapidly mutate into more infectious and more deadly variants.

I assume your reference to 'those in authority' include virologists, medics and clinicians in general - i.e. professionals who have spent their respective entire careers studying pathogens and/or working within the health industry.

Are you actually qualified to contradict their opinion?

Without denigration, why do you think the nation should take the advice of a barely educated farmer over the advice of these professionals?

Should, say, Indians stop worrying and get back to worshipping in their millions in confined places?



As I pointed out to Bobby in my excellent Post
Even with covod ravaging the Indian society
The number of people dying every day in India from cardiovascular disease
Is still three times the number of people dying from covert

It is far from a species ending event

As for people being vaccinated

Isn't that what all the cowards hiding under their bed were screaming about for the last 12 months
And now that the vaccine is available
They don't want to have it because they prefer to stay at home and sit there Chardonnay and read their books
And they don't give a stuff about people who want a resume an adventurous life

Are the Fremantle Dockers and West Australian eagles allowed to travel
Can young people go and enjoy a spectacle

If you speak to the old farts
They are happy to cancel such events in perpetuity
And they don't want to make the small sacrifice of having a vaccine so that people can start having some fun
They just want the premier to lock the stayed up forever

If not forever North then tell me
If everyone takes the Gregory peccary line and does not get vaccinated
When exactly do you think western Australia will be open for business

Reprehensible hypocritical people
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Reply #199 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:45am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:44am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season


Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.


aquascoot has spent the last 12 months telling everyone that C19 is a hoax, and that the numbers have been made up by the media and politicians, but now he wants to push old people out of the queue so that he can be the first to get vaccinated.

What a smacking idiot.



I think the smacking idiot
Is someone such as yourself
Who demands that young people never be allowed to have a decent life
But also paradoxically demands the right not to be vaccinated
Thereby meaning that the only way to keep a fool such as yourself safe
Is for the younger generations to give up their liberties
So you can sit in your backyard sipping your Chardonnay in safety

How very very selfish
You should be ashamed of yourself


No, the idiot is definitely you.

You spent 12 months telling everyone it's a hoax, and that the numbers are lies made up by the media and politicians, and now you're pushing over old people to get at the front of the vaccination queue.

How very selfish and hypocritical - you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.


Urgent media conference being held at 9am this morning (in one hour).

Doesn't sound good.

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Reply #201 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:45am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:44am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:16am:
We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season


Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.


aquascoot has spent the last 12 months telling everyone that C19 is a hoax, and that the numbers have been made up by the media and politicians, but now he wants to push old people out of the queue so that he can be the first to get vaccinated.

What a smacking idiot.



I think the smacking idiot
Is someone such as yourself
Who demands that young people never be allowed to have a decent life
But also paradoxically demands the right not to be vaccinated
Thereby meaning that the only way to keep a fool such as yourself safe
Is for the younger generations to give up their liberties
So you can sit in your backyard sipping your Chardonnay in safety

How very very selfish
You should be ashamed of yourself


No, the idiot is definitely you.

You spent 12 months telling everyone it's a hoax, and that the numbers are lies made up by the media and politicians, and now you're pushing over old people to get at the front of the vaccination queue.

How very selfish and hypocritical - you should be ashamed of yourself.




If the only way that young children can get to go and watch the Fremantle Dockers play is that I have to make the Noble sacrifice of having a vaccine
Then I shall make the Noble sacrifice of having a vaccine
Because unlike you
I care about the mental health of young people

As for knocking over old people in a desperate attempt to get the vaccine
You really have lost the plot
I would say the major problem for the government now would be convincing people to have the vaccine
So that young people can again lead a life of freedom

Selfish people like you are too cowardly to have it
I am more than happy to have it despite the fact I don't think the the virus is a problem
If it'll put a smile on a teenager's face

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year
Fortress western Australia will still be in place
Keeping selfish old people such as Gregory safe

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Spends 12 months saying it's a hoax, and that the numbers are lies made up be the media and politicians.

Nek minnit!

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aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:07am:
I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year


Finally, some good news.
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I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year
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You say that like its a bad thing. Also want to do schoolies? Stay in WA
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Reply #205 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:48am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:40am:
As I pointed out to Bobby in my excellent Post
Even with covod ravaging the Indian society
The number of people dying every day in India from cardiovascular disease
Is still three times the number of people dying from covert

It is far from a species ending event

As for people being vaccinated

Isn't that what all the cowards hiding under their bed were screaming about for the last 12 months
And now that the vaccine is available
They don't want to have it because they prefer to stay at home and sit there Chardonnay and read their books
And they don't give a stuff about people who want a resume an adventurous life

Are the Fremantle Dockers and West Australian eagles allowed to travel
Can young people go and enjoy a spectacle

If you speak to the old farts
They are happy to cancel such events in perpetuity
And they don't want to make the small sacrifice of having a vaccine so that people can start having some fun
They just want the premier to lock the stayed up forever

If not forever North then tell me
If everyone takes the Gregory peccary line and does not get vaccinated
When exactly do you think western Australia will be open for business

Reprehensible hypocritical people

Your excellent post? What... You're an 80's teen film star now?

Anyway, 'your excellency', you're not qualified to speak on the virulence of pathogens or actions we need to take, anymore than a teenage barista who's never stepped foot on a farm is qualified to give you advice on animal husbandry.... Even if they think they might have a thing for sheep.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:07am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.


Oh, it'll happen again alright.

Thanks to smacking idiots who refuse to wear masks, social distance, and obey lock-down orders.

Don't throw your masks away yet.

I have a good supply in my car, at work, and at home - we'll be needing them again in the not too distant future (as well as for the rest of this week).



And also the ones who STILL don't use the SafeWA app or a pen and paper register when shopping, etc.

Coronavirus WA: Many West Australians not using SafeWA app and QR codes while out shopping during lockdown


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-many-west-australians-not...

Yes, I've seen it myself while out shopping the past few days. Been happening since it became 'compulsory' a few months back.

(Its a subscriber only article but the story is obvious, I'll probably read it when I get today's West later on.
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Reply #207 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:51am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:49am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:07am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.


Oh, it'll happen again alright.

Thanks to smacking idiots who refuse to wear masks, social distance, and obey lock-down orders.

Don't throw your masks away yet.

I have a good supply in my car, at work, and at home - we'll be needing them again in the not too distant future (as well as for the rest of this week).



And also the ones who STILL don't use the SafeWA app or a pen and paper register when shopping, etc.

Coronavirus WA: Many West Australians not using SafeWA app and QR codes while out shopping during lockdown


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-many-west-australians-not...

Yes, I've seen it myself while out shopping the past few days. Been happening since it became 'compulsory' a few months back.

(Its a subscriber only article but the story is obvious, I'll probably read it when I get today's West later on.


I'm usually the only one who signs in with the app when I go to Woollies etc.

Hardly anyone uses the hand sanitiser, cleans the basket handles, or signs in.

Bastards!

News conference in a few minutes.

(Four new cases in quarantine hotels overnight)
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Reply #208 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:53am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:40am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:07am:
I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year


Finally, some good news.


Oh, yes... and I suspect the people down south (especially in places like Margaret River) have had enough after this past long weekend with seemingly half of Perth's population fleeing down there to escape the lockdown.
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Reply #209 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:03am
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:40am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:07am:
I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year


Finally, some good news.


Oh, yes... and I suspect the people down south (especially in places like Margaret River) have had enough after this past long weekend with seemingly half of Perth's population fleeing down there to escape the lockdown.


I can't believe he thinks cancelling schoolies is a bad thing   Roll Eyes
So many less unwanted teenage pregnancies, for a start.


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WA Premier fears COVID explosion in hotel quarantine after 78 of 79 arrivals on plane are from India


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/wa-premier-fears-covid-explosion...

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Western Australia has reported no new local coronavirus cases on the first day following the lifting of a snap lockdown.

However, there were four cases in hotel quarantine and a fifth under investigation.

All five of those returned travellers were in COVID-plagued India and arrived in Perth on a flight from Kuala Lumpur.

Premier Mark McGowan on Tuesday said emergency health meetings on Tuesday morning revealed 78 of 79 passengers on the flight had been in India.


WTF???? All these people STILL arriving from India? We're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic FFS!!

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He fears this will place a significant strain on the hotel quarantine system.


Understatement of the year!!!

Just a matter of time before there's another outbreak and we're back in lockdown... and, it'll probably be longer than 3 days this time.
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Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:38am:
WA Premier fears COVID explosion in hotel quarantine after 78 of 79 arrivals on plane are from India


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/wa-premier-fears-covid-explosion...

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Western Australia has reported no new local coronavirus cases on the first day following the lifting of a snap lockdown.

However, there were four cases in hotel quarantine and a fifth under investigation.

All five of those returned travellers were in COVID-plagued India and arrived in Perth on a flight from Kuala Lumpur.

Premier Mark McGowan on Tuesday said emergency health meetings on Tuesday morning revealed 78 of 79 passengers on the flight had been in India.


WTF???? All these people STILL arriving from India? We're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic FFS!!

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He fears this will place a significant strain on the hotel quarantine system.


Understatement of the year!!!

Just a matter of time before there's another outbreak and we're back in lockdown... and, it'll probably be longer than 3 days this time.


It is not going away anytime soon.  Get used to it!
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Reply #212 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:43am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 10:49am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 9:07am:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.


Oh, it'll happen again alright.

Thanks to smacking idiots who refuse to wear masks, social distance, and obey lock-down orders.

Don't throw your masks away yet.

I have a good supply in my car, at work, and at home - we'll be needing them again in the not too distant future (as well as for the rest of this week).



And also the ones who STILL don't use the SafeWA app or a pen and paper register when shopping, etc.

Coronavirus WA: Many West Australians not using SafeWA app and QR codes while out shopping during lockdown


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-many-west-australians-not...

Yes, I've seen it myself while out shopping the past few days. Been happening since it became 'compulsory' a few months back.

(Its a subscriber only article but the story is obvious, I'll probably read it when I get today's West later on.


I'm usually the only one who signs in with the app when I go to Woollies etc.

Hardly anyone uses the hand sanitiser, cleans the basket handles, or signs in.

Bastards!

News conference in a few minutes.

(Four new cases in quarantine hotels overnight)

No need to sign in with app at individual shops if you already did at at the shopping centre, thats why. I have observed that most are using the app. Maybe they do it different in Vic park, high amount of Indians and Chinese so they are probably arrogant about it. would not surprise me if these people are hoping to deliberately spread it.
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ChrisP wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:42am:
It is not going away anytime soon.  Get used to it!


No, it won't. Not when they keep flying thousands of potentially infected people into the country every week... especially from places like India at the moment.

This guy had the right idea back in December.

Fully close the international borders – with no exceptions


https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/fully-close-the-international-bo...

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With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.


Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.
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Perhaps you should blame this bloke?  Isn't he advising the Government?

https://www.health.gov.au/about-us/who-we-are/leadership
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Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:47am:
ChrisP wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:42am:
It is not going away anytime soon.  Get used to it!


No, it won't. Not when they keep flying thousands of potentially infected people into the country every week... especially from places like India at the moment.

This guy had the right idea back in December.

Fully close the international borders – with no exceptions


https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/fully-close-the-international-bo...

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With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.


Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.



um


maybe you ignoramuses want to think about things like global supply chains when you start "shreiking" about closing all borders Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.

if we cant import all the things you lazy chodes refuse to make then you might have to go without your 'entitled standard of living"


its truly pathetic that  cowardly chodes think the solution is to build a wall around australia and then its problem solved.

1/2 the australian population have  family overseas.
and calling for the cessation of allowing ex pats back home?
what if YOUR kid was studying at oxford.

this "i'm alright jack" attitude is woeful.

and for the people who screeched about their safety to now not want to roll up their sleeves (which would appear the only way back to normality) is incomprehensible to anyone who isnt a recluse.

as for peccas comments that young people should not get to go to schoolies as a right of passage, play interstate sport, seek jobs in sydney and melbourne or overseas and then return home to loved ones at any time they please...it merely shows the selfishness of some australians.

the response to covid has brought out the very worst in the selfish chode
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Reply #216 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 1:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:47am:
ChrisP wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 11:42am:
It is not going away anytime soon.  Get used to it!


No, it won't. Not when they keep flying thousands of potentially infected people into the country every week... especially from places like India at the moment.

This guy had the right idea back in December.

Fully close the international borders – with no exceptions


https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/fully-close-the-international-bo...

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With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.


Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.



um


maybe you ignoramuses want to think about things like global supply chains when you start "shreiking" about closing all borders Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.

if we cant import all the things you lazy chodes refuse to make then you might have to go without your 'entitled standard of living"


its truly pathetic that  cowardly chodes think the solution is to build a wall around australia and then its problem solved.



We'll build a wall, and India will pay for it.

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Well that was interesting.
Landed in Coolangatta airport this morning, walking out towards doors that lead to luggage pick up and vehicle pick up area, and what do I see.... about 12 police, standing before exit, all radioed up, visible guns in holsters, and I’m thinking wow, who’s this welcoming committee for?
I asked a security guard watching over car pickup/drop off area, who the police are greeting.
He said..... people from Perth!
Oh and BTW, the plane I’m in from Melbourne all wore masks, except for the hostesses.
And these police had no masks on either.
Just as observation.
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what a dogs breakfast LOLS.

if ever there was a need for a focused strong unshakeable military type response it is to this debacle.

the CCP is now back to full production. (strong leadership and strategic implementation)

the virus is demolished.

the CCP is also currently exploring sources of iron ore in south africa, brazil and chile.

soon they will say bye bye to WA and the fine citizens of perth can starve behind their walls ,

no courage, no jobs, no income, no purpose.

except to survive

surviving not thriving

coping mentality.

just trying to "cope' with this harsh world.

its woeful
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Reply #219 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 4:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
what a dogs breakfast LOLS.

if ever there was a need for a focused strong unshakeable military type response it is to this debacle.

the CCP is now back to full production. (strong leadership and strategic implementation)

the virus is demolished.

the CCP is also currently exploring sources of iron ore in south africa, brazil and chile.

soon they will say bye bye to WA and the fine citizens of perth can starve behind their walls ,

no courage, no jobs, no income, no purpose.

except to survive

surviving not thriving

coping mentality.

just trying to "cope' with this harsh world.

its woeful

You know nothing of where the CSNSP is at. They release nothing that is detrimental to their own narrative...

And what does get out... They hunt down the sources and bash them.
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so are you telling me that if there were mass burials , the american satelites wouldnt be having a field day.

and they wouldnt notice that the high speed trains werent rolling around the country in full numbers.

face it north, china whipped covids ass because they are disciplined and pull together, something our moronic states will never do.

didnt you read LOLS statement about cops from qld ready to arrest people from perth.

hopeless and inept
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 5:44pm:
so are you telling me that if there were mass burials , the american satelites wouldnt be having a field day.

and they wouldnt notice that the high speed trains werent rolling around the country in full numbers.

face it north, china whipped covids ass because they are disciplined and pull together, something our moronic states will never do.

didnt you read LOLS statement about cops from qld ready to arrest people from perth.

hopeless and inept

You don't seriously believe the CSNSP didn't just bolt in their homes people with the virus to die (the ones they hadn't bulldozed) and corralled the rest into (what looked like) dog boxes?

You know very little of totalitarian capacity for stage-managing a state display... Leni Riefenstahl would turn in her grave...

Where do you think Xi Jinpig is getting his ideas from?
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 5:58pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 5:44pm:
so are you telling me that if there were mass burials , the american satelites wouldnt be having a field day.

and they wouldnt notice that the high speed trains werent rolling around the country in full numbers.

face it north, china whipped covids ass because they are disciplined and pull together, something our moronic states will never do.

didnt you read LOLS statement about cops from qld ready to arrest people from perth.

hopeless and inept

You don't seriously believe the CSNSP didn't just bolt in their homes people with the virus to die (the ones they hadn't bulldozed) and corralled the rest into (what looked like) dog boxes?

You know very little of totalitarian capacity for stage-managing a state display... Leni Riefenstahl would turn in her grave...

Where do you think Xi Jinpig is getting his ideas from?



will you accept the Wall st journal as credible

BEIJING—China’s economy surged 18.3% in the first quarter from a year earlier, a record rate of growth that reflected the recovery from a deep coronavirus-induced trough in early 2020 and the continued momentum of the world’s second largest economy.

The rate of gross domestic product growth in the first three months of 2021 was sharply higher than the 6.5% year-over-year growth recorded in the final quarter of 2020, though it fell short of the 19.2% growth expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal.

Analysts had anticipated GDP growth in the first three months of the year to jump sharply when compared with the year-earlier period, when the Chinese economy suffered a historic 6.8% contraction as the coronavirus’ initial emergence forced Beijing to shut down large swaths of the country.

In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-economy-grows-more-than-18-in-first-quarter...
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:03pm:
In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

I think the key takeaway here is: China (read CSNSP) has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more...

The CSNSP isn't reporting credible virus death rates any more... No one's questioning them any more because there's no point... The CSNSP will veer off into a rant about 'racism' and send its 50 cent army to do what its does best... fling their faeces across social media.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:09pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:03pm:
In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

I think the key takeaway here is: China (read CSNSP) has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more...

The CSNSP isn't reporting credible virus death rates any more... No one's questioning them any more because there's no point... The CSNSP will veer off into a rant about 'racism' and send its 50 cent army to do what its does best... fling their faeces across social media.



would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.
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Reply #225 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...
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Makes it easier when you can run the whole charade at a loss and recoup the money by confiscating it from Chinese billionaires because they're 'causing arguments and disrupting the social order'.

Nothing the CSNSP does it legit, free or out of good will...

But appearances are everything...
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Reply #227 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
1/2 the australian population have  family overseas.
and calling for the cessation of allowing ex pats back home?
what if YOUR kid was studying at oxford.


“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” - Mr. Spock (Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan).

In our current situation the many is the 25 million people living in Australia who I'm sure would wish to remain Covid free and the few is the 35,000+ expats trying to get back here (bringing Covid with them in a lot of cases).

If you'd bothered to read the link I posted earlier you'd see that the writer of the article says the same thing.

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These consequences are many multiples of the pain and suffering faced by international travellers stranded overseas and desperate to return to Australia who will suffer as a result of this policy.

This is, however, a classic case of accepting the pain of a few to protect the wellbeing of the many.

Some may accuse me of being heartless and cruel for this policy advocacy, to which I would respond that I have a daughter in London and a son in Melbourne who I have not seen for almost a year.

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Reply #228 - Apr 27th, 2021 at 8:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:09pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:03pm:
In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

I think the key takeaway here is: China (read CSNSP) has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more...

The CSNSP isn't reporting credible virus death rates any more... No one's questioning them any more because there's no point... The CSNSP will veer off into a rant about 'racism' and send its 50 cent army to do what its does best... fling their faeces across social media.



would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.
Heres what you dont know, the Chinese government sets GDP targets every year, these targets are met with borrowed money. Governers have been known to be executed for not meeting targets, this has resulted in a large number of useless projects including  the notorious and well documented empty cities. Any economy can meet GDP targets with borrowed money, this is exactly the method Trump used, borrow more money, the economy goes gangbusters and all is well, only its not. Are you a ware of Chinas debt level? Quote:
otal Chinese debt across all sectors (household, government, and corporate) rose to 318 percent of the GDP in the first quarter of 2020, according to the Institute of International Finance. And based on early signs, Beijing seems open to fiscal policies to keep China’s economy afloat that will balloon the national debt even more.

Yet, some debt categories are seeing breathtaking growth. For instance, the South China Morning Post reports that consumer debt has experienced and, today, is “among the fastest-growing segment of overall debt, particularly in the form of mortgage and consumer loans.” Household debt increased to 57.7 percent of China’s GDP in the first quarter of 2020, according to the National Institution for Finance and Development. Meanwhile, China’s external debt grew to $2.09 trillion over the first quarter of 2020.

They are actually in serious trouble if they dont keep expanding their markets, basically a week away from starvation if the house of cards collapses. They cant keep duplicating infrastructure on borrowed money to meet GDP targets, that is insane and is doomed to failure
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While we had (seemingly) half of the Perth/Peel population fleeing to our south west during the 3 day lockdown someone managed to travel a bit further.

Coronavirus crisis: Perth man faces fine or jail after ‘fleeing WA lockdown for New Zealand’


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-perth-man-faces-...

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The West Aussie accused of fleeing Perth’s COVID-19 lockdown by flying to New Zealand faces a significant financial penalty - or jail time.

Authorities in NZ say the man made use of the trans-Tasman bubble to fly quarantine-free into Auckland via Sydney on Monday, the final day of Perth and Peel’s long weekend lockdown.

The travel appears to breach the conditions of Western Australia's lockdown and the trans-Tasman travel regime introduced last week.


Hopefully both.

How on earth did he manage to get onto the plane in Perth to start with seeing as we were supposed to be having a 3 day lockdown?

(Perhaps we should also be asking "why was a plane flying passengers from Perth to Auckland during Perth/Peel's 3 day lockdown?")

Coronavirus crisis: NZ investigates Perth lockdown breach


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/nz-investigates-perth-lockdown-brea...

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The New Zealand government is investigating a person who skipped Perth’s COVID-19 lockdown to fly to Auckland.

The person made use of the trans-Tasman bubble on Monday to fly quarantine-free into Auckland and on to Northland, where he is now self-isolating.

NZ paused travel from Western Australia in light of the three-day lockdown from Saturday to Monday.


How many people are (still) not doing their jobs properly to allow things like this to happen? I also have to wonder how many might have known this guy wasn't supposed to be flying from Perth to Auckland but the "not my job/problem syndrome" strikes again?

No wonder we keep having restrictions and lockdowns.

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And, on a lighter note... the entire Perth area was smothered in smoke again yesterday and this morning.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/perth-blanketed-by-smoke-after-co...

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Parts of Western Australia are waking up to air quality as bad as some Indian cities on Thursday, and health authorities are warning residents to avoid exertion as smoke blankets the region.

The thick smoke appeared on Wednesday as the result of controlled back burning and affected Perth’s CBD and parts of the southwest.


Came across this little 'gem' just now:

https://twitter.com/BellTowerTimes/status/1387274649600348163

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BREAKING: "todays smoke isn't real, it's just 5G vapours released by the Government to coerce citizens into wearing masks", reckons guy who watches too much YouTube


  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The "guy who watches too much YouTube" wouldn't be anyone from this forum, by any chance?  Grin
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Just heard on the news that a woman in the Perth CBD in her 50s refused two requests from police to wear a mask, and ultimately threw it back in their face.

She's now in custody, and will remain behind bars until her court hearing in June.

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy
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Reply #233 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP =  47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out  out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.
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rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP =  47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out  out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.



is that government debt or bank debt.

remember that debt in australia is 97 % debt generated by the banks creating money out of thin air to finance

property speculation and consumer spending (neither of which add to productivity).

chinese debt is government debt targeted at productive businesses .
thus it adds to productivity.

there is a reason that china is the worlds manufacturing hub and melbourne and sydeny are now 2 of the the top 3 most expensive cities to buy property in the world.

japan was just like that (before it began 30 years of stagflation)
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Reply #235 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:41pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:34pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP =  47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out  out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.



is that government debt or bank debt.

remember that debt in australia is 97 % debt generated by the banks creating money out of thin air to finance

property speculation and consumer spending (neither of which add to productivity).

chinese debt is government debt targeted at productive businesses .
thus it adds to productivity.

there is a reason that china is the worlds manufacturing hub and melbourne and sydeny are now 2 of the the top 3 most expensive cities to buy property in the world.

japan was just like that (before it began 30 years of stagflation)

yeah, thought you couldnt understand it, basic economics.
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i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I love watching aqua and rhino go at it.

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aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?
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Is that when you arent driving around drunk?  Does the following  remind you of anyone?
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Most likely what a person pictures when the term alcoholic is used, the chronic severe alcoholic subtype only accounts for about 9 percent of the entire US alcoholic population. A chronic severe alcoholic likely started drinking and struggling with alcohol-related issues and problematic drinking at a young age and is currently middle-aged. This subtype also battles antisocial personality disorder at high rates and regularly has issues with the law and therefore criminal or legal troubles as well.

Alcohol is often implicated in exacerbating aggression, and the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence (NCADD) publishes that 40 percent of all violent crimes cite alcohol as a contributing factor. Chronic severe alcoholics suffer from psychiatric disorders more often than other subtypes of alcoholics, including bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety disorders.
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rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Is that when you arent driving around drunk?  Does the following  remind you of anyone?
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Chronic Severe Alcoholics
Most likely what a person pictures when the term alcoholic is used, the chronic severe alcoholic subtype only accounts for about 9 percent of the entire US alcoholic population. A chronic severe alcoholic likely started drinking and struggling with alcohol-related issues and problematic drinking at a young age and is currently middle-aged. This subtype also battles antisocial personality disorder at high rates and regularly has issues with the law and therefore criminal or legal troubles as well.

Alcohol is often implicated in exacerbating aggression, and the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence (NCADD) publishes that 40 percent of all violent crimes cite alcohol as a contributing factor. Chronic severe alcoholics suffer from psychiatric disorders more often than other subtypes of alcoholics, including bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety disorders.

pecca? Do any of those personality characteristics remind you of anyone?
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rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:41pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:34pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP =  47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out  out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.



is that government debt or bank debt.

remember that debt in australia is 97 % debt generated by the banks creating money out of thin air to finance

property speculation and consumer spending (neither of which add to productivity).

chinese debt is government debt targeted at productive businesses .
thus it adds to productivity.

there is a reason that china is the worlds manufacturing hub and melbourne and sydeny are now 2 of the the top 3 most expensive cities to buy property in the world.

japan was just like that (before it began 30 years of stagflation)

yeah, thought you couldnt understand it, basic economics.


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rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.

but you miss the point.

all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
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Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased restrictions for Perth including masks and derby crowd


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Perth and Peel residents will be forced to continue wearing masks indoors for another week but a crowd of 45,000 will be permitted at Sunday’s western derby as post-lockdown restrictions are wound back from midnight tomorrow.


Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? Roll Eyes
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Yes Karl everyone should give up football
Travel
Work
Tourism
Visiting relatives in other states
Visiting relatives overseas
Working in other states
Working overseas
Studying in other states
Studying overseas
Importing critical infrastructure from overseas
Exporting overseas
Importing essential workers from overseas

They should all be done indefinitely and for all time
So that Carl and Gregory can remain safe under their beds
Risking nothing
Doing nothing
Producing nothing
And achieving nothing Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:56am:
Yes Karl everyone should give up football
Travel
Work
Tourism
Visiting relatives in other states
Visiting relatives overseas
Working in other states
Working overseas
Studying in other states
Studying overseas
Importing critical infrastructure from overseas
Exporting overseas
Importing essential workers from overseas

They should all be done indefinitely and for all time
So that Carl and Gregory can remain safe under their beds
Risking nothing
Doing nothing
Producing nothing
And achieving nothing Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No... they should all be done until the pandemic is under control which won't be for some time when you look at the situation overseas plus the steadily increasing number of infected "returned travellers" arriving every week and the "not fit for purpose" city hotel quarantine that's still being used.

A letter writer in yesterday's paper said that the easiest way to remove the Covid risk to Australia is to stop all overseas arrivals and he also believes a large number of them only want to come back here because its the safer option. Which is also something that I (and many other people I've spoken to lately) believe to be true.
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If CoVid doesn't kill you the jab will! Wink
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:41am:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.
So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

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but you miss the point.
No my roundup drinking friend, you miss the point, the Chinese are building empty cities with borrowed money for no other reason than to boost their GDP. And not just cities, they are duplicating unneeded infrastructure, all on borrowed money. That is not wealth creation


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all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:41am:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.
So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

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but you miss the point.
No my roundup drinking friend, you miss the point, the Chinese are building empty cities with borrowed money for no other reason than to boost their GDP. And not just cities, they are duplicating unneeded infrastructure, all on borrowed money. That is not wealth creation


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all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.



could you outline which bits are complete nonsense or are you just awestruck by my excellent arguement and left speechless by your ignorance  Grin Grin Grin
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Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:33am:
Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased restrictions for Perth including masks and derby crowd


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan...

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Perth and Peel residents will be forced to continue wearing masks indoors for another week but a crowd of 45,000 will be permitted at Sunday’s western derby as post-lockdown restrictions are wound back from midnight tomorrow.


Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? Roll Eyes


Ah, here we go. Today's West Australian.

"masks to remain amid other restrictions"

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

I've also noticed a shortage of newspapers the past 2 days at our local IGA and the newsagent close by even at 11am.

Maybe everyone's buying them to read The Gospel According To Saint Mark (McGowan)?

"Thou shalt wear thy masks for at least one more week."  Roll Eyes
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Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.

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Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
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being willing to compete and put your body on the line.


it is the complete opposite of the girly man "safe space" of the trembling chode who wants the authorities to "keep me comfortable  "
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
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You missed transcendence.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.



Excellent point

It's also about learning to incorporate aggression into a competitive spirit

The intellectual who does not play sport tries to repress that aggression
And then it usually spills out as bitterness
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.



Excellent point

It's also about learning to incorporate aggression into a competitive spirit

The intellectual who does not play sport tries to repress that aggression
And then it usually spills out as bitterness

Dunno... Was Einstein bitter?
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Stephen Hawking was so bitter he lived 60 years longer than he should of.
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hawking had to overcome great adversity
be resilient
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in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.
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in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.

Yes. he did.
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hawking had to overcome great adversity
be resilient
deal with physical set backs
keep pushing forward despite his body being spent

in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.
But he didnt play sport. You claimed
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Overseas Australians could face jail for trying to come home


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For the first time in history, the Australian government could make it illegal for Australian citizens in other countries to return home.

Nine News understands the Federal Government is considering invoking sweeping powers under the Biosecurity Act, which would mean from as early as midnight tomorrow, it would be a crime for anyone to return to Australia if they have been in a high-risk country 14 days prior to arriving.

The act empowers Health Minister Greg Hunt to do whatever is necessary to stop the spread of a listed disease.


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The move would come into effect days after two people circumvented travel bans from India, returning to Australia via Doha in a loophole that has since been closed.

With over 9000 Australians in India, the Federal Government has indicated they will restart repatriation flights as soon as they can, but with coronavirus rampant in India, that could be months away.


Well, this is an interesting development. But, unless something is done about the problem of continuing outbreaks from hotel quarantine and the increasing number of infected "returned travellers", especially from India, it probably had to happen eventually.
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Probably a good idea anyway, theres enough Indians here already.
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I have no issue with being germaphobic about various diseases. But, if you isolate the vulnerable to disease, and practice good hygiene and social distancing practices, you should be able to avoid excessive transmissions of viruses.

Trying to make it illegal to allow citizens to come home from overseas comes down to be a human rights violation. Two weeks quarantine and testing should be the only other requirement that new/returned arrivals should be subjected, on top of the practices they are required to do now.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:45pm:
I have no issue with being germaphobic about various diseases. But, if you isolate the vulnerable to disease, and practice good hygiene and social distancing practices, you should be able to avoid excessive transmissions of viruses.

Trying to make it illegal to allow citizens to come home from overseas comes down to be a human rights violation. Two weeks quarantine and testing should be the only other requirement that new/returned arrivals should be subjected, on top of the practices they are required to do now.


There's already legal action in progress from a group of stranded Australians.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/stranded-australians-have-filed-legal-action-with-th...

We'll probably be seeing more of this if these latest changes go ahead.

But, from what I've read somewhere recently, the Federal government will have 6 months to respond to any legal action of this nature and even if a ruling is made by the United Nations’ Human Rights Committee the government doesn't have to abide by it anyway (i.e. they can just ignore it).
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People were told to come home. Then people were told not to go. They were told this a number of times, this message was widely broadcast everywhere, including social media. Half of Australians overseas left in the last few months, it doesnt matter they were granted an exemption, they wanted the exemption which we now know was granted in many cases for frivolous reasons. These people applied for the exemption to travel thinking they were somehow above everyone else. F em.
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A letter writer in the paper the other day had an interesting idea since a lot of people are also complaining that they can't travel overseas at the moment.

He said that people should be allowed to leave Australia right now for any reason at all (since they don't pose a Covid threat by leaving) BUT on the understanding that they will go to the 'back of the queue' if they wish to return with no guarantee they will even get a flight back at all for the foreseeable future.

I agree. Mind you, I don't believe there is actually a 'queue' but, if there was one, it is definitely a good idea. It will at least make people think twice before leaving, especially for frivolous reasons, then hoping to get back again almost straight away.
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I bet there would be plenty of people in hotspots for covid19 willing to step over their dead mothers to get a plane trip to Australia or New Zealand. Allegedly, Cuba tried a policy of putting HIV positive people quarantined somewhere on the island, for the purposes of living out their days and not infecting other Cubans. Supposedly, it worked.

I could imagine that there a plenty of people that would use places like Australia and New Zealand as a refuge until case numbers die down in their countries. But, for people from Australia going overseas for anything not work-related, I do not see any reason why they cannot wait it out until the virus is under control. And for work-related matters, surely video calls and emails can do a lot more these days than a trip overseas.

Get citizens back home as soon as reasonably possible. But they can get tested and quarantined for 2 weeks after that.
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McGowan has done the right thing :

A crowd of 45,000 was due to attend the match after a 75 per cent capacity limit was imposed in the wake of Perth's Anzac Day weekend outbreak.

Mr McGowan said the decision to cancel attendance was made on medical advice.

"The decision to have no crowds at the stadium also helps us in preventing possible transmission on public transport," he said.

"Having 45,000 people try to get to [Perth] Stadium at the same time is too much of a risk.

"The game will still go on and people can watch the game from their own homes."

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Wow, no-one was more surprised than I was when I heard there were not going to be any crowds at the game this afternoon.

Well done, Mark McGowan.

I wonder how many fans actually turned up at Optus Stadium earlier in the day before the announcement was made? Glad I didn't have to go anywhere near there today.
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Western Australia regions of Perth and Peel face nervous wait as Premier Mark McGowan flags possible lockdown


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Western Australia is in a 'holding pattern" as authorities trace the movements of two food delivery drivers who caught COVID-19 from a housemate who worked in a Perth quarantine hotel.

On Sunday WA Premier Mark McGowan said Perth and the Peel region had avoided being plunged into another snap lockdown, just a week after the last one which was triggered by another case of COVID-19 transmission in a different quarantine hotel.

However, he stressed that could change as early as today, as more information about the two drivers' movements came to light.


So, there's STILL the possibility of another lockdown this week. Better check and make sure we've got enough toilet paper before I go to the shops later.  Roll Eyes
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hope you have had your operation carl???..


Carl D wrote on May 1st, 2021 at 12:29am:
A letter writer in the paper the other day had an interesting idea since a lot of people are also complaining that they can't travel overseas at the moment.

He said that people should be allowed to leave Australia right now for any reason at all (since they don't pose a Covid threat by leaving) BUT on the understanding that they will go to the 'back of the queue' if they wish to return with no guarantee they will even get a flight back at all for the foreseeable future.

I agree. Mind you, I don't believe there is actually a 'queue' but, if there was one, it is definitely a good idea. It will at least make people think twice before leaving, especially for frivolous reasons, then hoping to get back again almost straight away.



I disagree   we are a country of whingers   they would demand and demand and write letters and do interviews making us look like the enemy....look whats happened in India  no one made them go  it was their choice their own risk....if you go o/seas EXPECT to get stuck there  do not expect to come home when it suits you   because this could very well be the future for a long time...
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Hi, cods.

Nope... operation is now scheduled for May 26th, 3 weeks from Wednesday. Attempt #5 from memory. Unless it gets cancelled again which is a definite possiblity with all this Covid business here in Perth at the moment.

Yep, the situation in India is a tricky one but apparently about half of the 9,000 "stranded Aussies" wanting to come back went there since the start of this year and about 1,000 went in the past month. "Very stupid people" is probably the politest way to describe it.
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Carl D wrote on May 3rd, 2021 at 10:30am:
Hi, cods.

Nope... operation is now scheduled for May 26th, 3 weeks from Wednesday. Attempt #5 from memory. Unless it gets cancelled again which is a definite possiblity with all this Covid business here in Perth at the moment.

Yep, the situation in India is a tricky one but apparently about half of the 9,000 "stranded Aussies" wanting to come back went there since the start of this year and about 1,000 went in the past month. "Very stupid people" is probably the politest way to describe it.


Insanity   Roll Eyes
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2021 at 11:25am:
Insanity   Roll Eyes


There's really no other way to describe it. It also makes a mockery of these alleged "closed borders" and "hard borders" we've been hearing about over the past year with all these people flying in and out almost nonstop.

Right now, I'm listening to plane after plane coming in to land at Perth Airport since they've been using the shorter cross runway this morning (presumably due to the strong easterly winds) and I'm wondering how many more Covid cases are arriving and if we're going to have another quarantine outbreak and lockdown.

A lot of these planes could be the early morning FIFO flights returning but I'm pretty sure FIFO doesn't use the larger aircraft I've been seeing and hearing.
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What a fiasco.

Coronavirus WA: COVID-positive food delivery drivers visited 76 food businesses over weekend


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More than 70 food businesses across Perth were visited by COVID-positive food delivery drivers during the course of two days, a new exposure list reveals.

McDonald’s, Hungry Jack’s, Nando’s, Subway and KFC were among the potential hotspot sites listed by the Health Department.

However, despite the delivery drivers picking up food from numerous outlets and travelling all over Perth, Premier Mark McGowan deemed the venues “very low risk”.

The delivery drivers were housemates of a hotel security guard who contracted the virus from returned travellers.


If we're not in lockdown again by the end of this week I'll be very surprised.
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Carl D wrote on May 3rd, 2021 at 2:52pm:
McDonald’s, Hungry Jack’s, Nando’s, Subway and KFC were among the potential hotspot sites listed by the Health Department.


I'm safe then.

But seriously, yes: lock-down is coming, plus an indefinite period of mask wearing.

Neither of the two bother me personally, but it's gonna be horrible for business owners and their employees.

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Hi, cods.

Nope... operation is now scheduled for May 26th, 3 weeks from Wednesday. Attempt #5 from memory. Unless it gets cancelled again which is a definite possiblity with all this Covid business here in Perth at the moment.

Yep, the situation in India is a tricky one but apparently about half of the 9,000 "stranded Aussies" wanting to come back went there since the start of this year and about 1,000 went in the past month. "Very stupid people" is probably the politest way to describe it.




well I will keep the old fingers crossed there is no more delays   I often ask myself  if this was one of the Premiers waiting for an operation   would they also go through this many delays???????....I cant see it happening to be honest....

yes to all those Australians who took themselves off to India  in the midst of something that has shown it is not going away.... I say tough you are stranded...the threats this govt has made has nothing to do with racism..fancy dragging that tired old excuse into this   I understand some people have travelled to other countries and tried to return from there as if they have never been to India and    thats shameful..
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Coronavirus WA: UWA academic warns mask fatigue setting in as Perth rides out COVID storm


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-uwa-academic-warns-mask-f...

(Subscriber only article but the 'headline' tells the story anyway).

Mask wearing still doesn't bother me or my elderly aunt but I was reading the other day where a lot of small businesses in Perth are still experiencing up to a 50% downturn in business which some of them attribute to the ongoing mandatory wearing of masks.

Perhaps a lot of people (especially the elderly) are preferring to stay home instead of having to wear a mask outside?
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Reply #278 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:04am
 
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 9:48am:
Coronavirus WA: UWA academic warns mask fatigue setting in as Perth rides out COVID storm


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-uwa-academic-warns-mask-f...

(Subscriber only article but the 'headline' tells the story anyway).

Mask wearing still doesn't bother me or my elderly aunt but I was reading the other day where a lot of small businesses in Perth are still experiencing up to a 50% downturn in business which some of them attribute to the ongoing mandatory wearing of masks.

Perhaps a lot of people (especially the elderly) are preferring to stay home instead of having to wear a mask outside?

  it seems its the hospitality industry that suffers the most,  I am thinking how would you be going for coffee and cake with a mask on????..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes whats the rules over there carl   lift it up when you want a bite only one at a time... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #279 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:08am
 
cods wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:04am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 9:48am:
Coronavirus WA: UWA academic warns mask fatigue setting in as Perth rides out COVID storm


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-uwa-academic-warns-mask-f...

(Subscriber only article but the 'headline' tells the story anyway).

Mask wearing still doesn't bother me or my elderly aunt but I was reading the other day where a lot of small businesses in Perth are still experiencing up to a 50% downturn in business which some of them attribute to the ongoing mandatory wearing of masks.

Perhaps a lot of people (especially the elderly) are preferring to stay home instead of having to wear a mask outside?

  it seems its the hospitality industry that suffers the most,  I am thinking how would you be going for coffee and cake with a mask on????..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes whats the rules over there carl   lift it up when you want a bite only one at a time... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Well, yeah.
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Reply #280 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:09am
 
cods wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:04am:
  it seems its the hospitality industry that suffers the most,  I am thinking how would you be going for coffee and cake with a mask on????..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes whats the rules over there carl   lift it up when you want a bite only one at a time... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Hi, cods.

You can take the masks off (or, just pull it under your chin like I do) for the entire duration of your meal and/or drink. At least I believe you can. That's what I see everyone else doing.

That's the problem with having crowds at the footy and other sporting events, most of the spectators would probably keep a drink (alcoholic, of course) in their hand for the entire game (as Greg said last week about the footy here in Perth) so they wouldn't need to wear a mask at all until they left to go home.
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Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:09am:
cods wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:04am:
  it seems its the hospitality industry that suffers the most,  I am thinking how would you be going for coffee and cake with a mask on????..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes whats the rules over there carl   lift it up when you want a bite only one at a time... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Hi, cods.

You can take the masks off (or, just pull it under your chin like I do) for the entire duration of your meal and/or drink. At least I believe you can. That's what I see everyone else doing.

That's the problem with having crowds at the footy and other sporting events, most of the spectators would probably keep a drink (alcoholic, of course) in their hand for the entire game (as Greg said last week about the footy here in Perth) so they wouldn't need to wear a mask at all until they left to go home.




then it makes no sense    or do they believe the germs only pass between humans when they are moving...lol sorry but it all seems like super over reaction to me...

and as per usual its the little man that pays for it..
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Oh, great.

Perth's hotel quarantine system could see fewer security guards due to shortage of vaccinated workers


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-06/concerns-hotel-quarantine-security-shorta...

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Western Australia's hotel quarantine system could see a significant reduction in security guards from Monday, due to a shortage of vaccinated workers.

At least 30 per cent of the security guards staffing WA's quarantine hotels have not been vaccinated against COVID-19, just four days out from a government-imposed deadline.

But the government has indicated a reduction in guards could be managed due to the reduced number of returning Australians quarantining in WA.


So, what happens when our "returned traveller" numbers go back up from 500 to 1000+ a week?

Mind you, it isn't like these "security guards" are much use anyway (except for sitting around playing with their phones and occasionally catching the virus and potentially spreading it across half of Perth and the metropolitan area giving us all the 'joy' of more lockdowns and mask wearing, etc.).
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Reply #283 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am
 
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes
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Reply #284 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:22am
 
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:16am:
Oh, great.

Perth's hotel quarantine system could see fewer security guards due to shortage of vaccinated workers


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-06/concerns-hotel-quarantine-security-shorta...

Quote:
Western Australia's hotel quarantine system could see a significant reduction in security guards from Monday, due to a shortage of vaccinated workers.

At least 30 per cent of the security guards staffing WA's quarantine hotels have not been vaccinated against COVID-19, just four days out from a government-imposed deadline.

But the government has indicated a reduction in guards could be managed due to the reduced number of returning Australians quarantining in WA.


So, what happens when our "returned traveller" numbers go back up from 500 to 1000+ a week?

Mind you, it isn't like these "security guards" are much use anyway (except for sitting around playing with their phones and occasionally catching the virus and potentially spreading it across half of Perth and the metropolitan area giving us all the 'joy' of more lockdowns and mask wearing, etc.).




maybe they have run out of masks and are afraid to tell you carl???....  if they are anything like our Parliament House security   I would say you wont miss them... Grin Grin Grin  comedy capers...
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Reply #285 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:25am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes



at least there are consequences for those who choose no to have it..I think a lot will change their minds     how about if and when they catch the virus    after we have all been done.. they are then put in self  isolation for 6 months....after all this is costing the nation a motza...
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Reply #286 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes


But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

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Reply #287 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:30am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool



What about all of the people (myself included) who cannot have any Covid vaccine because they're immunocompromised?

Should we say "oh, too bad, they will just have to make the ultimate sacrifice so the airports can be back to maximum capacity and people can come and go at will"?

You really need to stop covering yourself with Roundup every day. Cheesy
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Reply #288 - May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?
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Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?


Yep.

He took the T**** line.

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Next minute, aqua's pushing old people out of the way in the vaccination queue.

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Reply #290 - May 6th, 2021 at 11:03am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes


But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?




Incorrect

I have never said the virus is a hoax I have nearly said it is not a catastrophic disease

The virus represents a very small threat of death

The vaccine represents and incredibly incredibly small threat of death

Continued economic lockdown represents catastrophic societal failure
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Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:30am:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool



What about all of the people (myself included) who cannot have any Covid vaccine because they're immunocompromised?

Should we say "oh, too bad, they will just have to make the ultimate sacrifice so the airports can be back to maximum capacity and people can come and go at will"?

You really need to stop covering yourself with Roundup every day. Cheesy



You sure about that

My understanding is the only people who cannot have the vaccine are those who have had an anaphylactic reaction to a previous vaccine

I am sure there are many many many immunocompromised people having the vaccine

Can you provide a link stating that is the official policy that the immunocompromised do not be vaccinated

I doubt it
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Reply #292 - May 6th, 2021 at 11:06am
 
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?



For the  majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close
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Reply #293 - May 6th, 2021 at 11:08am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?


Yep.

He took the T**** line.

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Next minute, aqua's pushing old people out of the way in the vaccination queue.

https://media.tenor.com/images/4afa9db253629d52e11076d8b4c48dbe/tenor.gif

 

Incorrect

Aqua had the vaccination so that young people can enjoy human flourishing

Gregory peccary despite looking after to elderly relatives
Has decided not to have the vaccination
And put their lives at risk
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Reply #294 - May 6th, 2021 at 11:25am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:05am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:30am:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool



What about all of the people (myself included) who cannot have any Covid vaccine because they're immunocompromised?

Should we say "oh, too bad, they will just have to make the ultimate sacrifice so the airports can be back to maximum capacity and people can come and go at will"?

You really need to stop covering yourself with Roundup every day. Cheesy



You sure about that

My understanding is the only people who cannot have the vaccine are those who have had an anaphylactic reaction to a previous vaccine

I am sure there are many many many immunocompromised people having the vaccine

Can you provide a link stating that is the official policy that the immunocompromised do not be vaccinated

I doubt it


The information seems to keep changing.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vac...

But, I definitely saw a list a few months back where it stated that it was not recommended immunocompromised people have a Covid vaccine at that stage.

And,

https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/affected-cancer/covid-19-and-cancer/covid-19-...

Safety and effectiveness

Quote:
People with cancer were not included in most clinical trials for the COVID-19 vaccines. This is because clinical trials typically need to see whether the vaccines will work in people with healthy immune systems.


So, at the present time no-one really knows how the Covid vaccines affect people with compromised immune systems, or cancer and its follow up treatments.

In my case, since I completed 2 months of 5 days a week radiation treatment for prostate cancer on December 10th and I'm still having Lucrin injections every 3 months for at least the next 18 months plus I'm due to have half of my thyroid removed later this month (unless it gets cancelled again) I, for one, won't be taking any chances with a Covid vaccine until my GP tells me it is safe for me to have it.

My 91 year old aunt also won't be having any Covid vaccine until her GP tells her it is safe.
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My immune system is compromised and I will NOT be having the jab.
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aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:06am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?



For the  majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close


And still, you push elderly people out of the queue so you can get the jab yourself.

Everything you say is a contradiction of the last thing you said.

It's your MO.
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Reply #297 - May 6th, 2021 at 12:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:06am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:29am:
But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?



"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?



For the  majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close


And still, you push elderly people out of the queue so you can get the jab yourself.

Everything you say is a contradiction of the last thing you said.

It's your MO.


not pushing anyone out of the way.

meanwhile, you live with elderly vulnerable people and refuse to front up for the vaccine, thereby endangering them.

its your MO
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roll up your sleeves Carl

For most people with immunocompromise, the Oxford University/AstraZeneca can be given at any time, and the main priority is to be vaccinated as early as possible, according to the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI).

‘Many immunocompromising conditions are associated with a higher risk of severe illness and complications from COVID-19 … [and] vaccination should be strongly encouraged,’ it states.


https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/more-advice-on-covd-vaccines-for-immun...
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Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:25am:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:05am:
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:30am:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool



What about all of the people (myself included) who cannot have any Covid vaccine because they're immunocompromised?

Should we say "oh, too bad, they will just have to make the ultimate sacrifice so the airports can be back to maximum capacity and people can come and go at will"?

You really need to stop covering yourself with Roundup every day. Cheesy



You sure about that

My understanding is the only people who cannot have the vaccine are those who have had an anaphylactic reaction to a previous vaccine

I am sure there are many many many immunocompromised people having the vaccine

Can you provide a link stating that is the official policy that the immunocompromised do not be vaccinated

I doubt it


The information seems to keep changing.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vac...

But, I definitely saw a list a few months back where it stated that it was not recommended immunocompromised people have a Covid vaccine at that stage.

And,

https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/affected-cancer/covid-19-and-cancer/covid-19-...

Safety and effectiveness

Quote:
People with cancer were not included in most clinical trials for the COVID-19 vaccines. This is because clinical trials typically need to see whether the vaccines will work in people with healthy immune systems.


So, at the present time no-one really knows how the Covid vaccines affect people with compromised immune systems, or cancer and its follow up treatments.

In my case, since I completed 2 months of 5 days a week radiation treatment for prostate cancer on December 10th and I'm still having Lucrin injections every 3 months for at least the next 18 months plus I'm due to have half of my thyroid removed later this month (unless it gets cancelled again) I, for one, won't be taking any chances with a Covid vaccine until my GP tells me it is safe for me to have it.

My 91 year old aunt also won't be having any Covid vaccine until her GP tells her it is safe.



that gp needs his head read.

the risk of covid to a 91 yo is large
the risk of the vaccine is small
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aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 12:46pm:
roll up your sleeves Carl

For most people with immunocompromise, the Oxford University/AstraZeneca can be given at any time, and the main priority is to be vaccinated as early as possible, according to the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI).

‘Many immunocompromising conditions are associated with a higher risk of severe illness and complications from COVID-19 … [and] vaccination should be strongly encouraged,’ it states.


https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/more-advice-on-covd-vaccines-for-immun...


As I said, only if and when my GP tells me it is safe for me to do so. Same goes for my aunt.
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Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 12:46pm:
roll up your sleeves Carl

For most people with immunocompromise, the Oxford University/AstraZeneca can be given at any time, and the main priority is to be vaccinated as early as possible, according to the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI).

‘Many immunocompromising conditions are associated with a higher risk of severe illness and complications from COVID-19 … [and] vaccination should be strongly encouraged,’ it states.


https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/more-advice-on-covd-vaccines-for-immun...


As I said, only if and when my GP tells me it is safe for me to do so. Same goes for my aunt.


um.

i just gave you the advice from the colledge of GP's website.

you want to educate this doctor
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aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 12:53pm:
um.

i just gave you the advice from the colledge of GP's website.

you want to educate this doctor


um.

One thing I've learned is to not rely too much on information I read on the Internet (which is being constantly reinforced just from reading some peoples' posts on this forum). Wink

Again... my GP will let me know if and when it is safe for me to be vaccinated against Covid. And, he's in a position to make the best decision since he has my entire medical history available to him.

And, even after that, it will still be my choice whether or not to have the vaccine (I will if it is safe).
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Reply #303 - May 6th, 2021 at 4:18pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 9:48am:
Coronavirus WA: UWA academic warns mask fatigue setting in as Perth rides out COVID storm


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-uwa-academic-warns-mask-f...

(Subscriber only article but the 'headline' tells the story anyway).

Mask wearing still doesn't bother me or my elderly aunt but I was reading the other day where a lot of small businesses in Perth are still experiencing up to a 50% downturn in business which some of them attribute to the ongoing mandatory wearing of masks.

Perhaps a lot of people (especially the elderly) are preferring to stay home instead of having to wear a mask outside?


Here's the story from today's West Australian.

Yes, I've noticed that myself in my travels during the past week - people not wearing masks properly or not at all.

Some people may have a medical exemption but most of the ones I've seen looked pretty fit to me (and, they weren't doing any sort of 'vigorous exercise' either).
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Reply #304 - May 6th, 2021 at 4:41pm
 
WA coronavirus restrictions: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased rules for Perth and Peel


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/wa-coronavirus-restrictions-premier-mark...

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Premier Mark McGowan has announced eased restrictions for Perth and Peel from midnight tomorrow, with masks only required on public transport and at large events.

Mr McGowan announced the eased restrictions after all 115 close contacts linked to the security guard from the Pan Pacific Hotel were tested, and returned negative results.

Those close contacts remain in quarantine.

“Masks will now only be required on public transport, or at events or venues with more than 1000 people,” the Premier said.

They will also be required in hospitals, disability and aged care facilities.


I will continue to do what I've been doing since the first lockdown in February - carry a mask with me wherever I go (just in case).
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about time he caught up with Gladys ....why punish everyone     seems like its always when a special weekend is coming it must be hell for all our little cafes and takeaways..
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Reply #306 - May 6th, 2021 at 5:42pm
 
cods wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 5:36pm:
about time he caught up with Gladys ....why punish everyone     seems like its always when a special weekend is coming it must be hell for all our little cafes and takeaways..


Yep, happened to us on the ANZAC Day weekend.

Now, Sydney is getting it just in time for Mother's Day.

Greater Sydney and NSW Covid restrictions: new coronavirus rules for Mother’s Day weekend explained


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/06/greater-sydney-covid-rest...

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The New South Wales premier, Gladys Berejiklian, has announced new restrictions for greater Sydney, including Wollongong, the Central Coast and the Blue Mountains, following two cases of local Covid transmission in Sydney’s east.


At least it isn't a complete lockdown like we had over the ANZAC Day weekend... not yet, anyway.
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there is still one they havent found thats why....here in ACT we have none of that....lolol....
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Virus's generally do not have an Australian Holiday calendar
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Reply #309 - May 6th, 2021 at 6:17pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool


With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes


Uh-oh!

Five more suffer blood clotting after receiving AstraZeneca jab


https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-vaccine-update-queensland-man-bloo...

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Five more people are being treated for serious blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, the Therapeutic Goods Administration has said.
The cases are in a 74-year-old man and a 51-year-old woman from Victoria, a 66-year-old man from Queensland, a 64-year-old woman from Western Australia and a 70-year-old man from Tasmania.
Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young said the 66-year-old is in intensive care as a "direct result" of receiving the COVID jab on March 30.


Haven't we been told (many times) that the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for everyone over 50?

I'm guessing we'll be seeing quite a few more "reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated" now?

And, I'm inclined to agree with a letter writer in our West Australian a few weeks back who suspects we've been told the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for over 50's because it has already been given to a large number of aged care residents throughout Australia and the Federal government is worried about lawsuits if many elderly people start dying as a result of blood clots (the government can blame AstraZeneca who, as well as the other Covid vaccine manufacturers, are apparently 'immune' from lawsuits pertaining to their Covid vaccines due to the rapid development and testing).
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Reply #310 - May 8th, 2021 at 5:12pm
 
Well, it was extremely obvious that today was the day when masks were no longer mandatory except on public transport, at footy games, events with 1,000 people or more, hospitals, etc.

Could hardly move in Belmont Forum this afternoon (Mother's Day tomorrow probably also had something to do with it being so busy) and while many people were using the SafeWA app (or pen and paper) when entering stores there still wasn't too much social distancing to be seen.

Let's see how long our "Covid free lifestyle" lasts this time.

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Reply #311 - May 8th, 2021 at 5:46pm
 
More good news for WA.

McGowan moves to permanently reduce WA’s overseas traveller intake


https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/mcgowan-moves-to-permanent...

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West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has flagged a permanent reduction to the maximum number of returned international travellers Perth will take each week in an effort to reduce the risk of another hotel quarantine breach.

Prior to the Anzac Day long weekend lockdown, the state was receiving up to 1025 returned travellers a week, temporarily reduced to 512 in the wake of the breach.

Mr McGowan indicated the cap would remain at 530, with three of WA’s hotels considered ‘high risk’ due to ventilation issues in the process of being taken offline.


Zero would be my preferred number and I'm pretty sure most West Australians would agree.

Meanwhile, check out these idiots.

InterContinental Hotel Perth staff hold ‘tone deaf’ and ‘disrespectful’ COVID-themed party


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/intercontinental-hotel-perth-staff-hold-...

Another subscriber only article by our "esteemed" West Australian but since I bought it again today (I really need to break that habit) I've attached the full story.

Wonder if these muppets will feel like partying if they lose their jobs and they're lined up at Centrelink after the pandemic is over because no-one wants to stay in their hotel anymore due to 'left over' Covid concerns?

Oh, I didn't hide their faces - the paper did. I wonder why?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #312 - May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 6:17pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 10:21am:
Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool


With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes


Uh-oh!

Five more suffer blood clotting after receiving AstraZeneca jab


https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-vaccine-update-queensland-man-bloo...

Quote:
Five more people are being treated for serious blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, the Therapeutic Goods Administration has said.
The cases are in a 74-year-old man and a 51-year-old woman from Victoria, a 66-year-old man from Queensland, a 64-year-old woman from Western Australia and a 70-year-old man from Tasmania.
Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young said the 66-year-old is in intensive care as a "direct result" of receiving the COVID jab on March 30.


Haven't we been told (many times) that the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for everyone over 50?

I'm guessing we'll be seeing quite a few more "reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated" now?

And, I'm inclined to agree with a letter writer in our West Australian a few weeks back who suspects we've been told the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for over 50's because it has already been given to a large number of aged care residents throughout Australia and the Federal government is worried about lawsuits if many elderly people start dying as a result of blood clots (the government can blame AstraZeneca who, as well as the other Covid vaccine manufacturers, are apparently 'immune' from lawsuits pertaining to their Covid vaccines due to the rapid development and testing).


you seriously are daft.

1  the nursing home residents got the pfizer vac.

2.  covid itself carries a 10 fold increased risk of thrombosis, more  then the vaccine.

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)
and the vaccine CERTAINLY DOESNT SCARE ME , the risk of a clot is less then 1 in 200,000.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

time to decide.

expecting everyone to do the hard yards for you is no longer acceptable
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Reply #313 - May 8th, 2021 at 6:11pm
 
Apparently blood clotting occurs normally quite often.

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........  Venous thrombosis, comprising deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and pulmonary embolism (PE), occurs with an incidence of approximately 1 per 1000 annually in adult populations (1).
Rates are slightly higher in men than women.
About two-thirds of episodes manifest as DVT and one-third as PE with or without DVT.
The major outcomes of venous thrombosis are death, recurrence, post-thrombotic syndrome and major bleeding due to anticoagulation.
Thrombosis is also associated with impaired quality of life, particularly when post-thrombotic syndrome develops (2, 3).
Death occurs within one month of an episode in about 6% of those with DVT and 10% of those with PE (4).
The mortality rate for PE has been estimated to be high as 30% in studies that included autopsy-based PE diagnosis (5), pointing out the fact that many PE are not recognized clinically before death.
Mortality rates are lower among patients with idiopathic venous thrombosis and highest among those whose thrombosis occurs in the setting of cancer.

Venous thrombosis is a disease of aging, with a low rate of about 1 per 10,000 annually before the fourth decade of life, rising rapidly after age 45 years, and approaching 5–6 per 1000 annually by age 80       .........


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2020806/
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Reply #314 - May 8th, 2021 at 6:18pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.


Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)


As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.
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Reply #315 - May 8th, 2021 at 6:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.
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Reply #316 - May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.



nope.

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

now we have one, they dont want to get it.

they just want to keep borders closed.

unacceptable.

have the vaccine or have the virus.

simple choice.

neither scares me

both seem to terrify the confused conflicted inconsistent cretins
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Reply #317 - May 8th, 2021 at 7:03pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.


Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)


As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.


you are confused.

are you SERIOUSLY SAYING that even if we ALL got vaccinated, we still need to keep our borders closed ?
seriously

at what point will you accept an end to fortress australia

do tell  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #318 - May 8th, 2021 at 8:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.



nope.

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.




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Reply #319 - May 8th, 2021 at 8:18pm
 
Calm down, aqua... you seem to be getting a bit overexcited (too much Roundup exposure today?).

No one has any definite proof yet that Covid vaccines are effective, especially against all the new variants that are appearing lately.

And, from what we've seen with recent "returned travellers" testing positive after being fully vaccinated overseas, the vaccines don't stop people getting Covid and spreading it to others. Which would be a disaster here in Australia considering the low number of vaccinated people we have so far.

Another important question is - what do you think would happen to a Federal government (with an election due next year) that allowed Covid to escape into the community and potentially cause tens of thousands to die if we "let it rip" after this October as you suggest.

I'm sure Scott Morrison is thinking about that every day.
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Reply #320 - May 8th, 2021 at 8:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.


Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)


As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.


you are confused.

are you SERIOUSLY SAYING that even if we ALL got vaccinated, we still need to keep our borders closed ?
seriously

at what point will you accept an end to fortress australia

do tell  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
He is talking about fortress Western Australia, and yes, Mcgowan can keep it going indefinitely, he has an unbeatable majority and lots of cash$$$, they budgeted for $55 a tonne iron ore now its $200.PT.  I think that gives Mcgowan an extra $20b if I heard correctly. I dont like him, but thats the facts.
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Reply #321 - May 8th, 2021 at 8:40pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.


Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)


As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.


Carl - oh, that is scary.
Good luck for you.

In New Zealand, they are not recommending covid vaccines for the very elderly.
I think that is a valid idea.

If enough 'other' people get vaccinated, the very elderly will be protected by the herd immunity.

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Reply #322 - May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm
 
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

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WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked

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Reply #323 - May 9th, 2021 at 12:33am
 
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

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WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked



Poor Maureen DeBoick.
That is very sad.
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Reply #324 - May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am
 
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

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WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me
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Reply #325 - May 9th, 2021 at 6:44am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 12:33am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

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WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked



Poor Maureen DeBoick.
That is very sad.


dont be sucked into individual cases sprint.

recently a car was swept away in the floods in qld and the guy died because he was stuck in his seat belt and couldnt get free.

so sad.

murderous seat belts
if only he hadnt put on that seat belt.

NO.

if something greatly reduces the risk of death 99 % of the time, then if you die in the other 1 % scenario, it doesnt change the fact that you are way way way safer wearing a seat belt.

and you are way way way safer having the vaccine.

i havent come upon a siuation where australians have shown their national stupidity quite as bad as this.

old people should have it because its way way safer.

young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer
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Reply #326 - May 9th, 2021 at 6:46am
 
rhino wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.


Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:02pm:
isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)


As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.


you are confused.

are you SERIOUSLY SAYING that even if we ALL got vaccinated, we still need to keep our borders closed ?
seriously

at what point will you accept an end to fortress australia

do tell  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
He is talking about fortress Western Australia, and yes, Mcgowan can keep it going indefinitely, he has an unbeatable majority and lots of cash$$$, they budgeted for $55 a tonne iron ore now its $200.PT.  I think that gives Mcgowan an extra $20b if I heard correctly. I dont like him, but thats the facts. 



but i thought you were saying china is on the brink of caollapse?

that price wont hold up then Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.

and why not use that extra cash to build new infrastructure and jobs for young people,
why use it to maintain a safe space.

rediculous
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Reply #327 - May 9th, 2021 at 6:47am
 
I hear you Aqua.

For Maureen and her family, it is a very sad time.
To say the least.


The media is not giving a balanced view and they are escalating some things.


But, for this lady and those who loved her. Sad Sad
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Reply #328 - May 9th, 2021 at 8:01am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:47am:
I hear you Aqua.

For Maureen and her family, it is a very sad time.
To say the least.


The media is not giving a balanced view and they are escalating some things.


But, for this lady and those who loved her. Sad Sad



this is NOT NEW sprint.

fluvax carries a risk of anaphylaxis and death.

probably thousands of people have died from an allergic reaction to penicillin.

having a ceasarian increases the mothers chances of dying in the next 6 weeks by well over double (due to clots).

you can find "tragic cases" everywhere.

but you have to weight up the risks
make a sensible analysis and then move forward.

i can gaurantee you one thing.

for every person who dies from covid vaccines this year there will be many more who die from a ladder fall

There were 226 patients who died as a result of the ladder‐related fall, with 186 (82.3%) aged over 60 years.

the media dont report it because its not sexy.

maybe we should ban ladders from households and all remain safe under our beds  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #329 - May 9th, 2021 at 8:04am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:44am:
young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer


lol... "human flourishing". What a load of bollocks.

More population... more congested roads, more pollution, more things like hospitals unable to cope with an increased population... more chance of the next pandemic killing tens or hundreds of thousands in Australia (assuming this one doesn't, there's still a big chance that will happen).

I'm done with this. Find someone else to play with.
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Reply #330 - May 9th, 2021 at 12:11pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:04am:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:44am:
young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer


lol... "human flourishing". What a load of bollocks.

More population... more congested roads, more pollution, more things like hospitals unable to cope with an increased population... more chance of the next pandemic killing tens or hundreds of thousands in Australia (assuming this one doesn't, there's still a big chance that will happen).

I'm done with this. Find someone else to play with.



you are channelling pauline hansen  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #331 - May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?
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Reply #332 - May 9th, 2021 at 10:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:01am:

but you have to weight up the risks
make a sensible analysis and then move forward.


sensible analysis? You? really?  Grin
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Reply #333 - May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am
 
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the risk of covod
Are now the same people who are shrieking about the risk of the vaccine


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the world with the spirit of adventure
Then you can kid yourself that you would if you could
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage
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Reply #334 - May 10th, 2021 at 4:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the risk of covod
Are now the same people who are shrieking about the risk of the vaccine


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the world with the spirit of adventure
Then you can kid yourself that you would if you could
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage


The people who shrieked about the vaccine? But, Aquascoot, that's you.

You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation. 

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?
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Reply #335 - May 10th, 2021 at 5:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 4:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the risk of covod
Are now the same people who are shrieking about the risk of the vaccine


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the world with the spirit of adventure
Then you can kid yourself that you would if you could
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage


The people who shrieked about the vaccine? But, Aquascoot, that's you.

You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation. 

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?


i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be associated with the weak individuals who think a 1 in 200,000 risk is "dangerous".

christ.

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again
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Reply #336 - May 10th, 2021 at 6:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again


I must say that I never watch A Current Affair but I would definitely make an exception to watch that particular episode. In fact, I would have to record it and show it around the neighbourhood.

"Hey, kids... look what this numbnuts is doing... never, ever do something stupid like that"
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Reply #337 - May 10th, 2021 at 7:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 4:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage



You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation. 

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?


i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be associated with the weak individuals who think a 1 in 200,000 risk is "dangerous".

christ.

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again


Yes, but what about the "noble Ghurka"?

There he is, working hard and bringing his dirt home to put in a bowl for his poor, starving children - thanks to the leftards shutting our borders and not letting him come over here.

You're just going to ignore him now that he's served his purpose, are you?
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Reply #338 - May 10th, 2021 at 8:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:08pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 4:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

A
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage



You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation. 

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?


i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be associated with the weak individuals who think a 1 in 200,000 risk is "dangerous".

christ.

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again


Yes, but what about the "noble Ghurka"?

There he is, working hard and bringing his dirt home to put in a bowl for his poor, starving children - thanks to the leftards shutting our borders and not letting him come over here.

You're just going to ignore him now that he's served his purpose, are you?


the noble gurkha will have truckloads of vaccine available to him.
aussie chodes dont want it.
they know that they will have to go back to work if the crisis ends
they want to remain in lockdown forever Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #339 - May 10th, 2021 at 9:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

the noble gurkha will have truckloads of vaccine available to him.
aussie chodes dont want it.
they know that they will have to go back to work if the crisis ends
they want to remain in lockdown forever Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Actually Nepal is in crisis, the virus is swathing through the population and they have run out of vaccine with only a small number of Nepalis vaccinated, they are in the same boat as India now. Nepal is in a lot of trouble.

[url] https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-nepal-stares-at-covid-abys
s-as-cases-skyrocket-by-1200-in-weeks-7308073/[/url]

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Explained: Nepal stares at Covid abyss as cases skyrocket by 1200% in weeks
Last month, the little Himalayan nation that has around 31 million people was reporting just about 100 cases a day. Now, that figure is slowly nearing the 10,000-mark.


You should try reading, watching or listening to world news sometimes, that way you might actually learn a bit of whats going on in the world instead of constantly making crap up.
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Reply #340 - May 11th, 2021 at 1:42am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 8:09pm:
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:08pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 4:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2021 at 7:43am:
Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 9th, 2021 at 6:40am:
Carl D wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 11:15pm:
Thanks, Sprint.  Smiley

aquascoot wrote on May 8th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.


I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-afte...

Quote:
WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.


As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. Shocked


you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cance
r

your 90 yo aunts risk  , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE  1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me


Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?



The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the


I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

A
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage



You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap

Have you changed your mind now?


i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again


Yes, but what about the "noble Ghurka"?

There he is, working hard and bringing his dirt home to put in a bowl for his poor, starving children - thanks to the leftards shutting our borders and not letting him come over here.

You're just going to ignore him now that he's served his purpose, are you?


the noble gurkha will have truckloads of vaccine available to him.
aussie chodes dont want it.
they know that they will have to go back to work if the crisis ends
they want to remain in lockdown forever Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No, the "noble righties" don't want it. They want to catch the virus. They want to bounce out of bed each day with a challenge to overcome. You said you could use the downtime to learn a new language.

You said you plan to send your vaccine off to the Gurkhas. Now now, we said, that's a bit ambitious.

No, you said, you meant it. No vaccine for you. Remember? Off to the "noble Gurkhas", Parcel Post.

Why are you now virtue signalling to the leftards? Were you just pretending?

Or are you tricking us now?
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what are you on about you stupid idiot.

the noble right want to get back to business.

we miss productive work and going overseas with a 'spirit of adventure"

it is the chodes , hiding under the kitchen table who wont get jabbed.

by and large , people who like the "enforced laziness' of the covid catastrophisation
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Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.
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rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker
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aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 12:52pm:
what are you on about you stupid idiot.

the noble right want to get back to business.

we miss productive work and going overseas with a 'spirit of adventure"

it is the chodes , hiding under the kitchen table who wont get jabbed.

by and large , people who like the "enforced laziness' of the covid catastrophisation


No, dear, you said so yourself. You wanted to catch the virus, you'd send your vaccine to the noble Gurkhas.

How will you do that? We said.

Where there's a will there's a way, you said. The Superior Man embraces adversity. Who knows? Maybe you could take up the violin.

The jig's up, dear. When did you become a leftard?
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aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.
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Reply #346 - May 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?
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rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff
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aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff
I live in a rural environment, farmers consume just like everyone else, your claim makes no sense, but hey, whats new.
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Reply #349 - May 11th, 2021 at 2:28pm
 
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?



a few fly in fly out miners using german, korean or japansese excavators.

the average chode in perth must be bursting with personal pride  , living a parasitic existence off the royalties from someone else digging stuff up Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #350 - May 11th, 2021 at 2:31pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:28pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?



a few fly in fly out miners using german, korean or japansese excavators.

the average chode in perth must be bursting with personal pride  , living a parasitic existence off the royalties from someone else digging stuff up Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
nah, the iron Ore industry employs around half a million people directly and indirectly and is currently supporting the standard of living you are currently enjoying and the cheap trinkets you are buying. . Its responsible for 30 percent of government revenue. The whole country has avoided a recession largely because of Iron ore, thats indisputable.
And the machinery is serviced and repaired in Perth, I know this because I live near a main highway which is chock a block full of dump trucks and mine machinery going back and forth up north. Mcgowan has built a high truck servicing and layby area at Muchea  about 50 k from Perth.
Anything else you dont know since you are are on a roll here?
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Anyway, had my idiot quota for the morning, between you Unsub and  grappler you got more dementia than an entire old peoples home.
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Reply #352 - May 11th, 2021 at 2:41pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff


Sorry, are you saying you don't want to catch the virus now, or are you just shifting the paradigms?

I'm confused.
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WA hotel quarantine security guard stood down over breach of coronavirus protocols


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-11/wa-hotel-quarantine-security-guard-stood-...

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A West Australian quarantine hotel security guard has been stood down for working a second job and another is under investigation, the state government has revealed.

The WA government moved to prevent hotel quarantine security staff from working a second job in February, after the state was plunged into lockdown when a guard tested positive to COVID-19.

As compensation, hotel quarantine workers were eligible for a 40 per cent loading on their base salary.

In response to questions from the ABC about compliance with the secondary employment rule, the state government revealed one security officer had been stood down for breaching the statutory declaration.

A government spokeswoman said security staff were required to complete a statutory declaration with their employer confirming they would not undertake secondary employment.


And, the incompetence continues.

As I've said before - all these so called security guards seem to be good for is sitting around playing with their phones and occasionally catching Covid then potentially spreading it across half of Perth.

Won't be long before we have another lockdown here.
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aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.


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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.




The noble righty lauds the noble consumer. The customer is always right, he says.

Great noble capitalists like the noble Donald,  ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc, always praised his customers. Russian oligarchs and Saudi sheikhs? Great guys, always up for a party, believe me. Scottish golfers? Good putters, just be sure to check the rooms for lighbulbs when they check out. Chinese whales? The hookers love them, always done in two minutes.

The big fella's a good customer himself. Rather than pay his bill, he offers the owner a selfie with the Donald to stick on the wall. Think how many customers will come back if they see that.

No, from the casinos to the Trump Foundation to Trump University to the citizens of America Inc, one thing's for sure: the customer is always right.

Unless it's a RIGGED witch hunt, so unfair. Then it's THEFT.

We need to study him, no? 5 years is the minimum.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.





simple.

produce cattle

sell to the chinese who make something for trade (phones white goods, cloths).

this is called 'trade'


your idea is

produce cattle

donate to city parasites who produce nothing.

this is called 'charity and entitlement"

i'll deal with the chinese and they can deal with me.

if you just want to consume and not produce, then both myself and the chinese should ignore you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #357 - May 12th, 2021 at 7:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.




The noble righty lauds the noble consumer. The customer is always right, he says.

Great noble capitalists like the noble Donald,  ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc, always praised his customers. Russian oligarchs and Saudi sheikhs? Great guys, always up for a party, believe me. Scottish golfers? Good putters, just be sure to check the rooms for lighbulbs when they check out. Chinese whales? The hookers love them, always done in two minutes.

The big fella's a good customer himself. Rather than pay his bill, he offers the owner a selfie with the Donald to stick on the wall. Think how many customers will come back if they see that.

No, from the casinos to the Trump Foundation to Trump University to the citizens of America Inc, one thing's for sure: the customer is always right.

Unless it's a RIGGED witch hunt, so unfair. Then it's THEFT.

We need to study him, no? 5 years is the minimum.


we are discussing something that does not have anything to do wit trump and yet you and gweggy still see everything thru the trump lens..

the Trump derangement syndrome still rages  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #358 - May 12th, 2021 at 7:59pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.





simple.

produce cattle

sell to the chinese who make something for trade (phones white goods, cloths).

this is called 'trade'


your idea is

produce cattle

donate to city parasites who produce nothing.

this is called 'charity and entitlement"

i'll deal with the chinese and they can deal with me.

if you just want to consume and not produce, then both myself and the chinese should ignore you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Fair enough, you take the cattle and we will take the iron ore, ok? The cattle export market is currently worth $1.35 Billion to Australia, iron ore market is worth 128  billion upwards. Because you favour the user pays principle then we will have to withdraw all services from rural areas including health, education etc, , you people just arent paying your way. And dont bother to ask for any iron ore money,  we dont want you farming parasites living of our mining money.
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Reply #359 - May 12th, 2021 at 8:34pm
 
rhino wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.





simple.

produce cattle

sell to the chinese who make something for trade (phones white goods, cloths).

this is called 'trade'


your idea is

produce cattle

donate to city parasites who produce nothing.

this is called 'charity and entitlement"

i'll deal with the chinese and they can deal with me.

if you just want to consume and not produce, then both myself and the chinese should ignore you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Fair enough, you take the cattle and we will take the iron ore, ok? The cattle export market is currently worth $1.35 Billion to Australia, iron ore market is worth 128  billion upwards. Because you favour the user pays principle then we will have to withdraw all services from rural areas including health, education etc, , you people just arent paying your way. And dont bother to ask for any iron ore money,  we dont want you farming parasites living of our mining money.


not a problem.

hospitals are a health hazard
and education is now indocrination.

happy to oblidge.

by the way, i own my cattle.
i think rio tinto owns the iron ore.

or do you and gweggy and carl get the shovels out every day and actually earn your keep
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Reply #360 - May 12th, 2021 at 8:39pm
 
Rio Tinto does not own the iron ore which enables your standard of living. You can also give up your internet services , scheme electricity and water, RFDS, these are all subsidised by city folk who earn the bulk of Australias income. And if you need any hospital or medical treatment you will have to pay for that as well. All subsidised by city folk. Live cattle trade, Lol Grin
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Reply #361 - May 12th, 2021 at 10:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:16pm:
Karnal wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.




The noble righty lauds the noble consumer. The customer is always right, he says.

Great noble capitalists like the noble Donald,  ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc, always praised his customers. Russian oligarchs and Saudi sheikhs? Great guys, always up for a party, believe me. Scottish golfers? Good putters, just be sure to check the rooms for lighbulbs when they check out. Chinese whales? The hookers love them, always done in two minutes.

The big fella's a good customer himself. Rather than pay his bill, he offers the owner a selfie with the Donald to stick on the wall. Think how many customers will come back if they see that.

No, from the casinos to the Trump Foundation to Trump University to the citizens of America Inc, one thing's for sure: the customer is always right.

Unless it's a RIGGED witch hunt, so unfair. Then it's THEFT.

We need to study him, no? 5 years is the minimum.


we are discussing something that does not have anything to do wit trump and yet you and gweggy still see everything thru the trump lens..

the Trump derangement syndrome still rages  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Oh? You don't have an opinion on the "noble retailer"?

Perhaps you'd rather shift the paradigm.

Don't discuss customers, marketing, sales, the "noble capitalist" or the ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc.

We'll talk about the chodes instead, shall we?

The "noble righty". He's on holiday, leftards. He's no longer into America, he's now a jolly Maoist.

You?
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Reply #362 - May 12th, 2021 at 10:44pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 7:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 12:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 2:13pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:57pm:
rhino wrote on May 11th, 2021 at 1:36pm:
Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.



the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.


contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff



Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.





simple.

produce cattle

sell to the chinese who make something for trade (phones white goods, cloths).

this is called 'trade'


your idea is

produce cattle

donate to city parasites who produce nothing.

this is called 'charity and entitlement"

i'll deal with the chinese and they can deal with me.

if you just want to consume and not produce, then both myself and the chinese should ignore you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Fair enough, you take the cattle and we will take the iron ore, ok? The cattle export market is currently worth $1.35 Billion to Australia, iron ore market is worth 128  billion upwards. Because you favour the user pays principle then we will have to withdraw all services from rural areas including health, education etc, , you people just arent paying your way. And dont bother to ask for any iron ore money,  we dont want you farming parasites living of our mining money.


not a problem.

hospitals are a health hazard
and education is now indocrination.

happy to oblidge.

by the way, i own my cattle.
i think rio tinto owns the iron ore.

or do you and gweggy and carl get the shovels out every day and actually earn your keep


Rhino doesn't get the shovel out every day, dear. He saves it for special occasions.

You?
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I need my shovel for Aquas constant bullshit.
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If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-cur...

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

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″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.


$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. Roll Eyes

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Those he worked with were mostly foreigners on $23 an hour, who he said did not have a proper command of English and whose own sanitary standards were well below those expected for the job.

The guard said behind the theatre of arrivals being escorted from the airports and into the hotel under police guard, inside it was “chaos”.

He said arrivals were assigned rooms in a lottery system meaning families of four had to share a one-bed room, while a single adult got the penthouse.

“There’s no windows open in these hotels and at one point in September it was boiling and I remembered thinking, ‘I’m breathing it all in now, I’m breathing in corona’,” the self-confessed germophobe said.


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He claimed a man from China stayed at the hotel undetected for three months, well beyond his quarantine, because no one told him he could go until a nurse made the discovery.


lol... definitely a government run operation. Reminds me of a "returned traveller" who wrote to The West Australian a few weeks back and said (amongst other worrying things about the way things were being run) she was told she would be able to come out of her hotel room at
6:02PM
which was exactly 14 days to the minute after she arrived at Perth Airport. 6:02PM, not 6:00 or even 6:01PM. Roll Eyes

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He said the state of staff eating areas and toilets was “horrendous”, with food and takeaway wrappers all over the floor, and the bathrooms made him gag.

When the guard raised the lack of sanitation or masks with management, he claims to have been told to keep his mouth shut. Part of his contract included signing a waiver preventing workers from speaking to the media.

“They think they’re law enforcement, but we were babysitters at most,” he said.


But, I'm sure things have improved since then. Haven't they? Shocked


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aquascoot wrote on May 12th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
or do you and gweggy and carl get the shovels out every day and actually earn your keep


Can't speak for the others but Carl has been retired and living on his super for the past 2 years after working for over 45 years.
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Reply #366 - May 13th, 2021 at 10:44am
 
Carl D wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 9:32am:
If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-cur...

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

Quote:
″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.


$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. Roll Eyes



Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates,  works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .
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Reply #367 - May 13th, 2021 at 10:49am
 
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Carl D wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 9:32am:
If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-cur...

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

Quote:
″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.


$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. Roll Eyes



Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates,  works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .


Maximum shift length is 10 hours.

c) By agreement between the employer and the majority of affected employees at a particular establishment, an employee may be rostered to work up to 12 ordinary hours per shift if:

(i) proper health monitoring procedures are introduced;and

(ii) suitable roster arrangements are made;and

(iii) proper supervision is provided;and

(iv) adequate breaks are provided;and

(v) an adequate trial or review process is implemented when 12 hour shifts are first introduced.
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Reply #368 - May 13th, 2021 at 10:52am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:49am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Carl D wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 9:32am:
If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-cur...

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

Quote:
″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.


$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. Roll Eyes



Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates,  works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .


Maximum shift length is 10 hours.


wrong, they working 4 x 12 hour shifts on and 4 off. They cant do 10 hour shifts for obvious reasons. Ring them up and ask them Pecca.
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These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.
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rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:49am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:44am:
Carl D wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 9:32am:
If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-cur...

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

Quote:
″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.


$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. Roll Eyes



Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates,  works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .


Maximum shift length is 10 hours.


wrong, they working 4 x 12 hour shifts on and 4 off. They cant do 10 hour shifts for obvious reasons. Ring them up and ask them Pecca.


You didn't read the rest of my post.

I can assure you that under the Modern Award, "The maximum number of ordinary hours that an employee may be rostered to work on a shift is 10."

However:

(c) By agreement between the employer and the majority of affected employees at a particular establishment,an employee may be rostered to work up to 12 ordinary hours per shift if:

(i) proper health monitoring procedures are introduced;and

(ii) suitable roster arrangements are made;and

(iii) proper supervision is provided;and

(iv) adequate breaks are provided;and

(v) an adequate trial or review process is implemented when 12 hour shifts are first introduced.
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These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.


Happens every day, in every state.

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Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending. This is precious, you are now driven to  defend companies which pay below award wages. Im guessing you dont care because they are all of a certain ethnicity, eh?
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:55am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:54am:
These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.


Happens every day, in every state.

ah, so you support employers paying Indian workers below award rates. well, well, well.  Smiley
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Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.


Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.
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rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:55am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:54am:
These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.


Happens every day, in every state.

ah, so you support employers paying Indian workers below award rates. well, well, well.  Smiley


Nope.

Despite my protests, it happens every day in every state.

Again, not sure where you got the idea I support it.

"Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews"

Now you'll be accusing me of supporting genocide    Grin
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greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 11:16am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:57am:
Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.


Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.

But you are Blanche, you are.
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[quote author=Rhino link=1609817412/369#369 date=1620867272]These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.


Happens every day, in every state.


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Heres something else I bet you know and covertly defend, even though the government is paying 40 percent more for the contracts on the basis that the guards employed do not take other employment not one guard on those contracts is receiving any more remuneration than previous, it is all going to the contractors. and many guards still have multiple jobs because of this. Its a massive con trick aided and abetted by people like you.
Now we have an inkling of why you find it difficult to sleep at night.
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Reply #378 - May 13th, 2021 at 11:35am
 
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 11:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 11:16am:
rhino wrote on May 13th, 2021 at 10:57am:
Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.


Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.

But you are Blanche, you are.
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[quote author=Rhino link=1609817412/369#369 date=1620867272]These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.


Happens every day, in every state.




Nope.

Stating a fact doesn't mean I support it.

Wait until your hangover wears off, and read the thread again - you'll hopefully see where you went so horribly wrong.

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too late, everyone can see this thread and your defense of the companies underpaying Indian guards because "it happens in every state".
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No masks, crowd limits as WA eases rules


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/no-masks-crowd-limits-as-wa-eases-rules-...

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Western Australia will welcome back capacity crowds and no longer require the wearing of face masks under a further easing of coronavirus restrictions.

From 1201am on Saturday, Perth and the neighbouring Peel region will return to the conditions that existed prior to the Anzac Day weekend lockdown.

Face masks will only be required at the airport and there will no longer be limits on attendees at weddings and funerals.

Major venues including the 60,000-seat Optus Stadium will return to being able to host 100 per cent capacity crowds.


Just in time for the footy this weekend. Roll Eyes Mind you, I would love to have seen how the enforcing of mask wearing (and social distancing) for up to 60,000 spectators would have been achieved. Impossible would be my guess.

All back to normal here in Perth again. Until the next hotel quarantine Covid outbreak, of course.
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Reply #381 - May 14th, 2021 at 11:03am
 
Carl D wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 10:08am:
No masks, crowd limits as WA eases rules


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/no-masks-crowd-limits-as-wa-eases-rules-...

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Western Australia will welcome back capacity crowds and no longer require the wearing of face masks under a further easing of coronavirus restrictions.

From 1201am on Saturday, Perth and the neighbouring Peel region will return to the conditions that existed prior to the Anzac Day weekend lockdown.

Face masks will only be required at the airport and there will no longer be limits on attendees at weddings and funerals.

Major venues including the 60,000-seat Optus Stadium will return to being able to host 100 per cent capacity crowds.


Just in time for the footy this weekend. Roll Eyes Mind you, I would love to have seen how the enforcing of mask wearing (and social distancing) for up to 60,000 spectators would have been achieved. Impossible would be my guess.

All back to normal here in Perth again. Until the next hotel quarantine Covid outbreak, of course.


Don't hold your breath!  Wink
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With underpaid, untrained  and unqualified security guards holding the fort what could go wrong?
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Reply #383 - Jun 1st, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
Ah, just in time for the upcoming WA Day long weekend. What a surprise.  Roll Eyes

Crewman tests positive for COVID on board ship docked off WA coast


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A crew member from a freight ship docked at Kwinana Bulk Jetty in Western Australia has tested positive for coronavirus.
The man, believed to be the cook on the ship Allegra, was removed from the vessel and taken away by ambulance under police escort at 8:00pm last night from the terminal in Perth's south.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said the man was aged in his 20s and was now in hotel quarantine.

He said the crew member was initially taken off the ship on Sunday when he became unwell.


Next Covid outbreak could be due here in Perth before the end of the week so we're locked down for another long weekend.

Wonder if everyone's getting their caravans, etc. ready to flee to the South West before another lockdown like what happened during our ANZAC Day long weekend lockdown?
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Reply #384 - Jun 1st, 2021 at 7:14pm
 
And, Perth is getting their first planeload of "stranded Aussies" from India arriving tomorrow.

COVID-19: First repatriation flight from India to Perth to touchdown on Wednesday


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-19-first-repatriation-flight-from-...

Subscriber only article again but I've read it in today's West. The plane will be arriving tomorrow afternoon (Wednesday) and all of these "returned travellers" will be transported to a Perth City hotel (The Westin) for quarantine. They have all been *allegedly* checked for Covid before boarding the plane in India but we've seen how well that *doesn't* work a few times already.

rhino wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 12:14pm:
With underpaid, untrained  and unqualified security guards holding the fort what could go wrong?


Is it too early to ask that question again? But, whatever happens I'm sure the footy at Optus Stadium on Saturday night will go ahead as planned, Covid outbreak or not. Roll Eyes
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And... here we go again.

WA coronavirus transmission reported in hotel quarantine after man infected by guest in next door room


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Another person has been infected with COVID-19 while staying in a Perth quarantine hotel and authorities are urgently investigating how it took place.
The Health Department confirmed the virus was transmitted between two guests in neighbouring rooms at the Pan Pacific Hotel.

Genome sequencing data confirmed they had the same sequence of virus.

It is not yet known how transmission occurred.


Unbelievable that some people are getting paid lots of money for this ongoing sheer level of incompetence.

Stand by for another Perth lockdown in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Oh, and:

Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.
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Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.
Im not entirely sure of that. Not saying its not possible but I just dont believe thats the obvious cause of transmission.
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rhino wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 8:51pm:
Carl D wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 7:54pm:


Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.
Im not entirely sure of that. Not saying its not possible but I just dont believe thats the obvious cause of transmission.


Very difficult to prove but it is a definite possibility. Trouble is, most of these quarantine hotels are quite old. The Pan Pacific (formerly the Sheraton Perth) is nearly 50 years old - I actually watched it being built when I was a kid and lived in the flats on Terrace Road, it officially opened in January 1973 from memory.

No doubt a lot of upgrades have been done over the years but I'm sure most of the original ducting is still there and, like all of these hotels being used for quarantine, the air conditioning systems were never designed and could probably never be modified (without spending a lot of money) for quarantine purposes.

Well, one potential Covid problem has been resolved, at least. The crewmember on that ship has now tested negative.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/covid-incident-emerging-at-kwinana-port-i...
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Reply #388 - Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:20pm
 
This is a big problem and possibly responsible for most or all of the quarantine Covid outbreaks we're having in Australia lately.

WA Health taking cautious approach to 'moderately positive' COVID case who spent a day in the community


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A man has returned a "moderately positive" COVID-19 test result, one day after finishing 14 days in a Perth quarantine hotel.
Western Australia's Chief Health Officer Dr Andy Robertson said the man, who had travelled to Perth from Colombia via the United States, returned a negative result on his day-10 of quarantine and was therefore able to leave on Friday, when his two weeks were complete.
Dr Robertson said the man, who is a maritime worker, was required by his employer to be tested for the virus, which he did after leaving the hotel and has since returned the "moderately positive" result.


Conclusion: As some have said over the past 12 months -14 days quarantine is not long enough and needs to be extended by at least another week.

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Carl D wrote on Jun 6th, 2021 at 11:20pm:
This is a big problem and possibly responsible for most or all of the quarantine Covid outbreaks we're having in Australia lately.

WA Health taking cautious approach to 'moderately positive' COVID case who spent a day in the community


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/wa-health-cautious-to-positive-covid-case...

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A man has returned a "moderately positive" COVID-19 test result, one day after finishing 14 days in a Perth quarantine hotel.
Western Australia's Chief Health Officer Dr Andy Robertson said the man, who had travelled to Perth from Colombia via the United States, returned a negative result on his day-10 of quarantine and was therefore able to leave on Friday, when his two weeks were complete.
Dr Robertson said the man, who is a maritime worker, was required by his employer to be tested for the virus, which he did after leaving the hotel and has since returned the "moderately positive" result.


Conclusion: As some have said over the past 12 months -14 days quarantine is not long enough and needs to be extended by at least another week.




now now carl.

we use lockdowns here in australia.

victoria is in lockdown with 30 cases.
england had 100,000 NEW cases last week and continues to open up.

ay the current rate of 5 new cases a day, we finish covid paranoia in 10,000 years.

i call on all state premiers to lock up the chodes for 10,000 years.

you cant put a price on a human life.
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WA Government on Twitter

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Anyone who has attended a potential exposure site at the times listed must get tested for COVID-19 and monitor for symptoms over the next 14 days.


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I forgot it was a public holiday. Thanks for the reminder. Should I buy masks today or we gonna give this one a miss?

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Western Australia to move to phase five COVID-19 restrictions


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Western Australia will move to phase five COVID-19 restrictions from Wednesday, essentially sending the state back to a pre-pandemic existence.
Under the changes, it will mean the two-square-metre rule and 75 per cent restrictions for the state's hospitality industry will be removed, with some venues allowed to return to 100 per cent capacity.
It's effectively a return to pre-COVID life for the hospitality sector.


Until the next hotel quarantine outbreak, of course.

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"We're confident in doing this," Mr McGowan said today.
"We know we can put up a border when we need to ... we know Western Australians do the right thing."

In response to whether the shift to phase five would mean WA could be forced into lockdowns in the event of any future locally acquired cases, Mr McGowan said he hoped it wouldn't come to that.


Yep, right after everyone's stampeded off to the shops again to strip the shelves of toilet paper and other 'essentials', just like the rest of Australia does every time there's a lockdown. Roll Eyes

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Nobody saw this coming   Roll Eyes

Perth and Peel back to masks and limited capacity restrictions from noon as WA records new community case

"The Perth and Peel regions will go back to phase one restrictions over fears a new COVID-19 community case is the quick to spread Delta variant.

"West Australians will need to wear a mask indoors and outdoors when they cannot physically distance as the two square metre rule comes back into place and venues are limited to a maximum of 150 patrons for the next three days."


And:

Live breaking news: NSW, WA, NT, QLD report new Covid cases, with health authorities instating new restrictions and lockdowns

"Australia's Covid battle has significantly worsened in the past 24 hours, as multiple states and territories respond to new cases and expanding contacts."

As predictable as ... well, something that's really predictable.

I guess there'll be a nationwide shortage of toilet paper tomorrow.
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Freaking unbelievable, isn't it?

As I've said before - time for all the small businesses who are losing so much during these outbreaks, lockdowns and restrictions to get together and file a massive class action lawsuit against the Federal and State governments then see how long it takes for them to fix this hotel quarantine fiasco which has been the cause of every single Covid outbreak in Australia.

Or preferably - put a complete stop to all overseas arrivals until this worldwide Covid pandemic is under control.
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Shut the border to WA!
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how long it takes for them to fix this hotel quarantine fiasco which has been the cause of every single Covid outbreak in Australia.



scomo seems intent on stopping the transition away from hotels and into more isolated camps ... or at least he seems to want to stop the one proposed for Brisbane/Toowoomba region
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Sophia wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:18pm:


Grin Grin

John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 4:11pm:
scomo seems intent on stopping the transition away from hotels and into more isolated camps ... or at least he seems to want to stop the one proposed for Brisbane/Toowoomba region


Wonder if he will change his mind now that masks are required to be worn in the ACT as well?

Surely he will have to wear one like everyone else? And, preferably one that doesn't have the Australian flag printed on it seeing as a lot of people quite rightly consider that to be disrespectful.

That is when he manages to return to Australia, of course (is he back yet?).
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I also wonder if the owners of any of these hotels being used for quarantine have ever thought to themselves: "Hmm, perhaps we should be thinking about protecting the health of everyone here in Australia and tell the Federal and State governments that they cannot use our hotels for quarantining all of these "returned travellers" any more?"

Governments would then be left with two choices:

1. Build proper quarantine facilities away from the major population centres (which we've heard lots of talk about for months but still no action so far). Or, use some of the existing facilities like Christmas Island (or Rottnest Island here in WA).

2. Stop all overseas arrivals until #1 is set up and operating or the pandemic is over or under control worldwide (this would probably happen before they get their heads out of their collective @sses and implement #1).

But, seeing as most or all of these hotels would be almost out of business due to lack of tourism, etc. if they were not getting paid for being used for quarantine then I can't see them refusing to be used for quarantine purposes anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Carl D wrote on Jun 27th, 2021 at 3:27pm:
Freaking unbelievable, isn't it?

As I've said before - time for all the small businesses who are losing so much during these outbreaks, lockdowns and restrictions to get together and file a massive class action lawsuit against the Federal and State governments then see how long it takes for them to fix this hotel quarantine fiasco which has been the cause of every single Covid outbreak in Australia.

Or preferably - put a complete stop to all overseas arrivals until this worldwide Covid pandemic is under control.



Yes.  This needs to happen.

I see the footy at Optus Stadium got cancelled today because of Covid (at the very last minute).

There'll be a lot of angry football fans around.

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I also wonder if the owners of any of these hotels being used for quarantine have ever thought to themselves: "Hmm, perhaps we should be thinking about protecting the health of everyone here in Australia and tell the Federal and State governments that they cannot use our hotels for quarantining all of these "returned travellers" any more?"
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And risk the only real profit any of them are likely to make anytime soon?   Not on your life ... literally
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1. Build proper quarantine facilities away from the major population centres (which we've heard lots of talk about for months but still no action so far). Or, use some of the existing facilities like Christmas Island (or Rottnest Island here in WA



just fly them to xmas island for two weeks before they can come to the mainland, once they come to the mainland they stay in isolated camps for another week before they are released into society
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Glad I wasn't anywhere near Optus Stadium yesterday when all the people who turned up to watch the game had to go home again and the match was played in an empty stadium.

Just came back from the IGA in Kooyong Rd. and I was talking to a couple of people I know who sit on the seats outside the shops and socialize. One of them was there yesterday afternoon when buses were dropping off disappointed fans across the road from the shops and most of them were cursing and swearing.

Probably not quite as bad as the post I read on another forum where someone said his boss had come over from Sydney last week to watch the Eagles play. Hadn't seen them play for about 2 years and all he got for his trouble was to watch the Eagles get thrashed by the Western Bulldogs on the TV in his hotel room where he has to spend 14 days in quarantine at his own expense. Ouch!
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Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-ca...

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. Roll Eyes
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Carl D wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:44pm:
Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-ca...

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. Roll Eyes


We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.

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Carl D wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:44pm:
Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-ca...

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. Roll Eyes


We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.




Some people love a lockdown
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:30am:
Carl D wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:44pm:
Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-ca...

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. Roll Eyes


We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.




Some people love a lockdown


True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:09am:
True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.



Same here. I know a couple of small business owners (one of them I used to work for) and their employees who won't be very happy at the moment, same as all small business owners.

But, my elderly aunt and I don't mind staying home for a few days with the wet weather we're having right now although it is supposed to clear up later.
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Reply #408 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:20am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:09am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 8:30am:
Carl D wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 10:44pm:
Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-ca...

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. Roll Eyes


We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.




Some people love a lockdown


True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.




Just be careful
A house may appear 2 be a safe space but there are many hazards

I hope that you have appropriate signage near your shower
Warning of the risks of slipping on a wet floor

Remember that when eating there is always the possibility of choking
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

With so many Australians now being bedwetters
And winter being upon us
The use of electric blankets is potentially deadly

Finally if reading in bed
Be aware that if the page was to give you a nasty papercut
Tetanus could occur
Take a nail file and smooth off the edges of all pages before reading

One can't be too careful
And you can't put a price on human life
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Reply #409 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:22am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:09am:
True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.



Same here. I know a couple of small business owners (one of them I used to work for) and their employees who won't be very happy at the moment, same as all small business owners.

But, my elderly aunt and I don't mind staying home for a few days with the wet weather we're having right now although it is supposed to clear up later.


Yep.

It's a great day to stay inside.

Very wintery out there at the moment.

I'll tackle a few work emails, restring a couple of guitars, and catch up on some Netflix.

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aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:20am:
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver


The Heimlich manoeuvre is discouraged by just about every medical organisation and professional in the country.

It's never been used in Australia, as it's extremely dangerous and not very effective.

If Americans (I'm looking at you Mrs Doubtfire) wanna do that crap good luck to them, but don't promote it here.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-heimlich-manoeuvr...
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Reply #411 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:08am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:20am:
Just be careful
A house may appear 2 be a safe space but there are many hazards

I hope that you have appropriate signage near your shower
Warning of the risks of slipping on a wet floor

Remember that when eating there is always the possibility of choking
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

With so many Australians now being bedwetters
And winter being upon us
The use of electric blankets is potentially deadly

Finally if reading in bed
Be aware that if the page was to give you a nasty papercut
Tetanus could occur
Take a nail file and smooth off the edges of all pages before reading

One can't be too careful
And you can't put a price on human life


Can you tell us what the price is for getting you to stop posting rubbish like this?

Just a 'ballpark' figure would be OK for now. Thanks in advance (just running off for a minute to check my wallet) .Roll Eyes
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Reply #412 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:26am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:20am:
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver


The Heimlich manoeuvre is discouraged by just about every medical organisation and professional in the country.

It's never been used in Australia, as it's extremely dangerous and not very effective.

If Americans (I'm looking at you Mrs Doubtfire) wanna do that crap good luck to them, but don't promote it here.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-heimlich-manoeuvr...



Indeed, whacks on the back then chest compressions is what is taught in 1st aid.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:26am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 9:20am:
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver


The Heimlich manoeuvre is discouraged by just about every medical organisation and professional in the country.

It's never been used in Australia, as it's extremely dangerous and not very effective.

If Americans (I'm looking at you Mrs Doubtfire) wanna do that crap good luck to them, but don't promote it here.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-heimlich-manoeuvr...



Okaaay…. If they’re telling us what not to do when someone is choking…. Then what do we do instead?

I was watching a restaurant video footage a couple weeks ago incidentally… of a worker  that was stacking chairs. It showed he was eating something and started to choke. Looking around desperately and no one about, hitting his chest, getting frantic, he got a chair and started to fall on his chest area against the chair, after a few unsuccessful attempts he finally dislodged the stuck food.
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Can you give us the ballpark figure for the number of Australians currently on ventilators for treatment of kovid

I'll give you a hint

It's a number less than 1

Sounds like it's very rational to have the entire country in panic mode Roll Eyes
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Reply #415 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:16am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:14am:
Can you give us the ballpark figure for the number of Australians currently on ventilators for treatment of kovid

I'll give you a hint

It's a number less than 1

Sounds like it's very rational to have the entire country in panic mode Roll Eyes


I'll give you a hint - "Stay Tuned".

I hope I'm wrong but with winter and the Covid outbreaks all around Australia at the moment I predict we might be in for a rough time over the next few months.
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PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….
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PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….



The value of doing a 1st aid course. IMO they should be compulsory.
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PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….



The value of doing a 1st aid course. IMO they should be compulsory.

Definitely recommended to do. And I wish it were compulsory.
I did do a level 2 first aid course with St. John’s Ambulance many years ago.
So much has changed since. Might do another updated one soon.
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Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/
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Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

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I did senior first aid every 2 years and resusc every 6 months for 30 years, Im seriously over Annie.
Fun fact , the doll they use is an actual  death mask from a real woman who drowned in the Seine in the 1800s.
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I did senior first aid every 2 years and resusc every 6 months for 30 years, Im seriously over Annie.
Fun fact , the doll they use is an actual  death mask from a real woman who drowned in the Seine in the 1800s.




They changed the timings its now CPR every year and first aid every 3. Still hoping myremote first aid course goes as planned in August
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Went up to the Kooyong Road IGA about an hour ago to get a few things.

I was surprised that it was so quiet when I got there (about 10:30am) but the lady on the checkout said it was very busy earlier.

I was even more surprised to see that they still had quite a few packs of toilet rolls and paper towels, I was betting with my aunt that they would probably have none left which no doubt would have been the case if the Perth/Peel lockdown had been announced earlier in the day yesterday (it was announced at about 8pm last night).
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The endless parade of idiots continues...

Perth lockdown: Vehicles attempting to flee city after lockdown turned back at Two Rocks checkpoint


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/perth-lockdown-vehicles-attempting-...

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Dozens of motorists attempting to escape Perth’s four day lockdown have been turned back at the border overnight.

Police were stopping traffic at eight checkpoints as soon as the clock struck 12:01am to enforce the lockdown order that bars travel outside the Perth and Peel region.

Officers stopped 555 vehicles, with 38 told to turn around after attempting to get through after midnight.

However, at least 100 cars and caravans were seen on the freeway making it past the check points just before lockdown.


I'll give them 10/10 for determination, at least. No-one in their right mind should even have been thinking of travelling anywhere with the cold and rain we had last night.
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WA Government on Twitter

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A previously confirmed COVID-19 case has tested positive, after being cleared. This is not uncommon.

Anyone who has attended a potential exposure site at the times listed must get tested for COVID-19 and monitor for symptoms over the next 14 days.


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I forgot it was a public holiday. Thanks for the reminder. Should I buy masks today or we gonna give this one a miss?

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Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/
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Reply #426 - Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:46pm
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:13pm:
Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/


Perhaps he should have waited until he stopped the car before recording his little rant?

Let's see... driving a car and not paying attention to the road in front of him while recording himself... waving his left hand around while steering with his right (could even have been holding the phone with his right hand and steering with his knees).

Have to assume he's driving an automatic otherwise your guess is as good as mine as to what he's using to change gears. Shocked

Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a knock on the door from the police seeing as they probably know who he is and where he lives.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/



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FIFO workers not exempt from Perth lockdown


https://www.australianmining.com.au/news/fifo-workers-not-exempt-from-perth-lock...

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A ‘stay where you are’ order has been issued by Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan, as the state enforced a snap four-day lockdown to combat multiple COVID-19 outbreaks across Australia.

The outbreak at Newmont Corporation’s Tanami gold mine has forced several Australian states into precautionary lockdowns, with premier McGowan asking fly-in, fly-out (FIFO) mine workers to remain on site or at home.


I should think so.

I've noticed its been a bit quiet at Perth Airport in the early morning for the past 2 days, I can usually hear the numerous FIFO flights taking off in the distance from about 5:15am if I'm awake but there's been a huge reduction which is probably a bit of a worry for the airport seeing as the FIFO's have been their main source of income since the start of the pandemic.

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Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:02am:
FIFO workers not exempt from Perth lockdown


https://www.australianmining.com.au/news/fifo-workers-not-exempt-from-perth-lock...

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A ‘stay where you are’ order has been issued by Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan, as the state enforced a snap four-day lockdown to combat multiple COVID-19 outbreaks across Australia.

The outbreak at Newmont Corporation’s Tanami gold mine has forced several Australian states into precautionary lockdowns, with premier McGowan asking fly-in, fly-out (FIFO) mine workers to remain on site or at home.


I should think so.

I've noticed its been a bit quiet at Perth Airport in the early morning for the past 2 days, I can usually hear the numerous FIFO flights taking off in the distance from about 5:15am if I'm awake but there's been a huge reduction which is probably a bit of a worry for the airport seeing as the FIFO's have been their main source of income since the start of the pandemic.



Yeah, I hear those flights at 5.15 every morning too.

Nothing yesterday or today.

I'm not leaving the house at all during this lockdown - not for anything.

Have plenty of food, so no need to go anywhere.

I've got carers looking after my mother, and my father can't have visitors at the nursing home.

Been answering work emails etc. since about 2am this morning, so most of my day's work is done.

Gonna start binge watching 'Queen of the South' on Netflix (and finish reading my Obama book).
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I was recently reading up about FIFO workers here and apparently the mining companies used to provide accomodation so the workers could live 'on site' instead of constantly travelling to and from work as they do now.

I don't know if the accomodation was provided free of charge? Probably wasn't but I'm sure the mining companies would have only charged a minimal rent, no doubt much cheaper than private landlords were charging up in WA's north west anyway.

This all stopped when the Federal government made some tax changes and after that it was cheaper for the mining companies to fly workers in and out than it was to provide accomodation for them 'on site'. Big win for the airlines and airports. Not so much for the workers who now have to constantly fly to and from work (lots of stress involved there I've heard) not to mention the environment with all the pollution from the increased flights.
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Carl D wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:46pm:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:13pm:
Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/


Perhaps he should have waited until he stopped the car before recording his little rant?

Let's see... driving a car and not paying attention to the road in front of him while recording himself... waving his left hand around while steering with his right (could even have been holding the phone with his right hand and steering with his knees).

Have to assume he's driving an automatic otherwise your guess is as good as mine as to what he's using to change gears. Shocked

Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a knock on the door from the police seeing as they probably know who he is and where he lives.


The thing I have noticed about videos in tik tok, is that they are all reversed, for instance, even writing is reversed when showing an item or product.
I’m just assuming he’s a passenger. He never takes his eyes off the phone/recording device.
Even my daughter’s videos or photos she takes and sends to me are reversed and it’s puzzling.
Maybe it’s a phone setting?
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You might be right there, Lols.

Looking at the video again I can see out of his rear window what looks like a couple of cars passing in the other direction so the image probably is reversed (or he's in America). Roll Eyes

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Reply #433 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?
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I was recently reading up about FIFO workers here and apparently the mining companies used to provide accomodation so the workers could live 'on site' instead of constantly travelling to and from work as they do now.

I don't know if the accomodation was provided free of charge? Probably wasn't but I'm sure the mining companies would have only charged a minimal rent, no doubt much cheaper than private landlords were charging up in WA's north west anyway.

This all stopped when the Federal government made some tax changes and after that it was cheaper for the mining companies to fly workers in and out than it was to provide accomodation for them 'on site'. Big win for the airlines and airports. Not so much for the workers who now have to constantly fly to and from work (lots of stress involved there I've heard) not to mention the environment with all the pollution from the increased flights.


A friend of mine from NZ lives on-site.

From memory, Rio only charge him about $160 per month for his three bedroom house in Parabadoo.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?


  Grin Smiley
This is one of my faves…

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Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows  Smiley
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Reply #436 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?


  Grin Smiley
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows  Smiley
Fact can be stranger than fiction.





Jesus.
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Reply #437 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:31am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am:
Jesus.


I think we've lost her. Cry

But, I suppose in all fairness, as a Victorian she has been subject to the worst Covid lockdowns and restrictions seen in Australia so far which was bound to have adverse effects on people sooner or later.

Turning to the "dark side" of conspiracy theories could be the 'last straw' for a lot of Victorians.

Don't want to upset you further Lols but I see the AFL now wants to move all the football to Victoria from now to avoid the lockdowns in other States and even play games 6 days a week to make sure they finish the season on time. Which is the exact opposite to last year when Melbourne couldn't even host the Grand Final.

Hope they don't bring Covid with them.

And, even more good news - Daniel Andrews is back on the job and I'm sure he will make certain he looks after everyone in Victoria just like he did before his unfortunate accident earlier this year.

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Reply #438 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:37am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?


  Grin Smiley
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows  Smiley
Fact can be stranger than fiction.





Jesus.


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Reply #439 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:38am
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:37am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?


  Grin Smiley
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows  Smiley
Fact can be stranger than fiction.





Jesus.


Yes! Lots of gospel/religious teachings in TikTok  too  Smiley



Not surprised, it seems chock a block full of shite.
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Reply #440 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:41am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:31am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am:
Jesus.


I think we've lost her. Cry

But, I suppose, in all fairness, as a Victorian she has been subject to the worst Covid lockdowns and restrictions seen in Australia so far which was bound to have adverse effects on people sooner or later.

Turning to the "dark side" of conspiracy theories could be the 'last straw' for a lot of Victorians.

Don't want to upset you further Lols but I see the AFL now wants to move all the football to Victoria from now to avoid the lockdowns in other States and even play games 6 days a week to make sure they finish the season on time. Which is the exact opposite to last year when Melbourne couldn't even host the Grand Final.

Hope they don't bring Covid with them.

And, even more good news - Daniel Andrews is back on the job and I'm sure he will make certain he looks after everyone in Victoria just like he did before his unfortunate accident earlier this year.

(Carl now ducks for cover). Shocked


Grin Smiley
Footballers…. They travel wherever they want that’s not in lockdown!
Don’t you worry Carl…. Once we go back into lockdown again now that HanDan is back… them footballers will up and leave… follow their balls to kick around  Grin



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Reply #441 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:44am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:37am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:11am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 10:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 9:38am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 11:48pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:53am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 29th, 2021 at 10:51am:
Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/


Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt



SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.



Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA  Cheesy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/






No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?


  Grin Smiley
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows  Smiley
Fact can be stranger than fiction.





Jesus.


Yes! Lots of gospel/religious teachings in TikTok  too  Smiley



Not surprised, it seems chock a block full of shite.


Aaawww not really. Like anything on the internet…. It’s got all sorts.
Actually, TikTok …. it’s on trend and hoards are going there, it’s expanding exponentially. Many make huge money within there too.
Have a look at the critters forum I posted an interesting vid someone shared online at a animal kingdom, it’s fascinating  Smiley
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Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. Roll Eyes
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Reply #443 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:18pm
 
Coronavirus crisis: One new local coronavirus cases for WA, Premier Mark McGowan reveals


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-one-new-local-co...

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WA has recorded one new locally acquired COVID-19 case overnight, raising the prospect of the Perth and Peel lockdown extending beyond Friday and into the school holidays.

The 37-year-old male attended a Joondalup gym at the same time as both the original case 1022 on Tuesday and case 1023 on Saturday.

Contact tracers have not yet determined when the man contracted the disease, but he is not believed to have spent time in the community while infectious.


If the lockdown is extended I'll probably have to stay in the house at all times. Not to protect myself from Covid but to avoid all the riots on the streets that won't be too far off.
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Reply #444 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:27pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:18pm:
Coronavirus crisis: One new local coronavirus cases for WA, Premier Mark McGowan reveals


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-one-new-local-co...

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WA has recorded one new locally acquired COVID-19 case overnight, raising the prospect of the Perth and Peel lockdown extending beyond Friday and into the school holidays.

The 37-year-old male attended a Joondalup gym at the same time as both the original case 1022 on Tuesday and case 1023 on Saturday.

Contact tracers have not yet determined when the man contracted the disease, but he is not believed to have spent time in the community while infectious.


If the lockdown is extended I'll probably have to stay in the house at all times. Not to protect myself from Covid but to avoid all the riots on the streets that won't be too far off.


I might have to pop down to the shops tomorrow morning and get a few more things before he announces an extension to the lockdown on Friday.

Come Friday afternoon, the idiots will have stripped the shelves bare of toilet paper and pasta   Grin
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Reply #445 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:27pm:
I might have to pop down to the shops tomorrow morning and get a few more things before he announces an extension to the lockdown on Friday.

Come Friday afternoon, the idiots will have stripped the shelves bare of toilet paper and pasta   Grin


They still had quite a few toilet rolls at the Kooyong Rd. IGA when I went there a while ago same as they did yesterday (I combine my allowed 1 hour of exercise with a walk to the shops).

Not sure if they were the same ones that were there yesterday or the shelves had been restocked but the manager (Tony) has probably put a few packs of toilet rolls aside in his office or the storeroom for the regular 'oldies' who shop there, same as he's done in previous lockdowns.

Better check how much we have, might have to grab an extra pack if I go up there again tomorrow.
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Reply #446 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:49pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:27pm:
I might have to pop down to the shops tomorrow morning and get a few more things before he announces an extension to the lockdown on Friday.

Come Friday afternoon, the idiots will have stripped the shelves bare of toilet paper and pasta   Grin


They still had quite a few toilet rolls at the Kooyong Rd. IGA when I went there a while ago same as they did yesterday (I combine my allowed 1 hour of exercise with a walk to the shops).

Not sure if they were the same ones that were there yesterday or the shelves had been restocked but the manager (Tony) has probably put a few packs of toilet rolls aside in his office or the storeroom for the regular 'oldies' who shop there, same as he's done in previous lockdowns.

Better check how much we have, might have to grab an extra pack if I go up there again tomorrow.


If we get at least one more positive case tomorrow and one on Friday, I reckon Mark will extend the lockdown for a week.

If he does that, people will go crazy with panic buying on Friday afternoon.

I still don't get why they do it though.

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Things have been heating up a bit on Mark McGowan's Twitter account today.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1410069595054956544

I was rather amused by this reply. Well, I suppose if you're in lockdown you might as well practice your Photoshop skills. Cool
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Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. Roll Eyes


Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.
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Raven wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:45pm:
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. Roll Eyes


Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.


I just went to Aldi.

Woman in front of me didn't sign in and didn't wash her hands.

Saw her later on in the store carrying a massive pack of toilet paper rolls.

FFS    Roll Eyes

Buggered if I can figure out the panic-buyers' reasoning.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 12:31pm:
Raven wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:45pm:
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. Roll Eyes


Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.


I just went to Aldi.

Woman in front of me didn't sign in and didn't wash her hands.

Saw her later on in the store carrying a massive pack of toilet paper rolls.

FFS    Roll Eyes

Buggered if I can figure out the panic-buyers' reasoning.



Its happening here in Canberra and we aren't even in lockdown

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Reply #451 - Jul 1st, 2021 at 12:46pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 12:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2021 at 12:31pm:
Raven wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:45pm:
Carl D wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. Roll Eyes


Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.


I just went to Aldi.

Woman in front of me didn't sign in and didn't wash her hands.

Saw her later on in the store carrying a massive pack of toilet paper rolls.

FFS    Roll Eyes

Buggered if I can figure out the panic-buyers' reasoning.



Its happening here in Canberra and we aren't even in lockdown



I really don't get it.

I just can't understand what's going through their head.

Anyway, good news for WA today - no new cases overnight.

If that's repeated tomorrow our lockdown should end at midnight Friday/Saturday.

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McGowan giving a press conference in 45 minutes (at 1.45pm).

Will Perth's lockdown be extended, or will it end at midnight tonight?

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Lockdown finishes tonight at midnight.

Masks are mandatory for the next nine days, and there a few other restrictions.

We got off lightly.
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Yep, got off lightly again but our "luck" will run out sooner or later.

I'm sitting here wondering who's on all the planes that have been going over us and landing at Perth Airport when the whole city is in lockdown? More Covid cases arriving?

They're using the shorter cross runway from 8am to about 3 or 4pm like they usually do every second Friday while they do maintenance on the main runway.

FIFO is still at a standstill today and even if it wasn't most of the planes are the large ones that wouldn't be used for FIFO anyway. Freight perhaps? Maybe a few but not all.

Speaking of planes, I hope amongst all the changes announced at the National Cabinet meeting today something is being done about this:

Pandemic no barrier to private jet arrivals in Australia

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The COVID-19 pandemic has not stopped the rich and famous from coming to Australia by private jet – at least 113 private international flights have landed since April last year, mostly from the United States.

Passengers on private jets include celebrities and other wealthy individuals, business executives on corporate trips and sporting teams such as the charter plane for contestants, families and staff in the World Surf League in March.


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But the busiest airport for arrivals was Bunbury Airport in Western Australia, with 22 flights - all from the US and all this month.


Too scared to land and be seen at Perth Airport because of the extremely likely and well deserved outrage, eh?

As we've said before (many times)... one rule for "them" and another for the rest of us.
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And the 'hits' just keep on coming...

WA hospital emergency department potentially exposed to COVID-19 during transfer of sick seafarer


https://www.9news.com.au/national/wa-coronavirus-geraldton-hospital-staff-patien...

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Dozens of staff, patients and visitors at a regional Western Australian hospital are being directed to get tested for COVID-19 following a breach in infection protocols.
The breach occurred when a Singaporean seafarer was brought to the hospital after being taken off the international bulk carrier, MV Emerald Indah, on Sunday.
The infected crew member spent around three hours in the Emergency Department getting an X-ray and tests.


Well, at least Geraldton is 420km away from Perth so we should be OK here.

Oh, wait... there's more...

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They later tested positive for COVID-19 and was transferred to a Perth hospital on Monday morning.


Let's hope the protocols at the "Perth hospital" (Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital so I've read in another online article) are 'up to scratch'.

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Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/
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Sophia wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:02pm:
Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/


Been like that in Perth all week, Lols.

Rain, rain and more rain (and wind).

Especially last Sunday afternoon and again this afternoon (Friday). Just heard tonight that the worst is to come on Monday.

Our 4 day lockdown ended at 12:01am last Saturday with interim restrictions in place until last Tuesday and lesser restrictions from then until this coming Monday.

From last Saturday:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-03/businesses-stay-closed-as-perth-emerges-f...

So, should be back to 'normal' here in Perth from 12:01am Monday (until the next Covid outbreak, of course).
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Carl D wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:25pm:
Sophia wrote on Jul 9th, 2021 at 11:02pm:
Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/


Been like that in Perth all week, Lols.

Rain, rain and more rain (and wind).

Especially last Sunday afternoon and again this afternoon (Friday). Just heard tonight that the worst is to come on Monday.

Our 4 day lockdown ended at 12:01am last Saturday with interim restrictions in place until last Tuesday and lesser restrictions from then until this coming Monday.

From last Saturday:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-03/businesses-stay-closed-as-perth-emerges-f...

So, should be back to 'normal' here in Perth from 12:01am Monday (until the next Covid outbreak, of course).


Oh crap!  Shocked and… does that mean we always get your weather 2-4 days later? Maybe I get the alum dingy and oars on the ready?

Geez… we are still fixing the mess here from that horrid once in a 100 years devastating so many trees and houses!

Our fences are still kaput… and a huge mess if fallen trees… too much work … I want to go somewhere calmer. Where’s such a place? Does it exist?
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Man jailed for breaching WA COVID quarantine rules after having tradies work on his house

A Perth man who had tradespeople visit his home when he was meant to be quarantining has been sentenced to seven months in jail for breaching COVID rules.

The 53-year-old arrived at Perth Airport from Brisbane on June 27 and was told to self-isolate for 14 days due to a COVID outbreak in Queensland.

He chose to quarantine at his home in the beachside suburb of Scarborough.

Under the rules, he was not allowed to have visitors, but WA Police say he had tradespeople conduct work at his property.

He also had members of the public come to his house to buy items he listed online for sale.
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Bugger.

I'm sitting here wondering if we'll be able to make it to a family and friends lunch at the Whale+Ale in Clarkson this coming Sunday before we have another lockdown here in Perth.

Just been organized this morning and I'll now be counting down the days (and checking WA's Covid news) until Sunday. We would have already been there by now if it wasn't for our latest lockdown and follow up restrictions.

Oh, and...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 1:05pm:
He chose to quarantine at his home in the beachside suburb of Scarborough.


Seems like the "authorities" all around Australia need to be beaten over the head repeatedly with a big stick that has the words "HOME QUARANTINE DOESN'T WORK" written on it in large letters.
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All eight crew members on that boat in Fremantle have tested positive.

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Reply #462 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 9:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 9:15am:
All eight crew members on that boat in Fremantle have tested positive.



Yes.

Its a bit of a worrying situation. Especially when Mark McGowan was saying there's a possibility of a 'leak' of the virus into the community if crew members have to be taken off the ship to hospitals.

I'm sure he's just trying to be honest with us but it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence especially when you look at what's happening in the Eastern States right now.

I've noticed he's also limited the people who can reply to his two threads about this on his Twitter account which is something I've never seen him do before (yep, I know he doesn't post these and probably doesn't even read them, same as just about every other politician in the country).

I suppose I can't blame "him" seeing as there's a lot of crazies who usually reply to "his" tweets.
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Reply #463 - Jul 22nd, 2021 at 9:23am
 
How long before our 'luck' runs out here in WA?

Take your pick:

1. COVID quarantine breacher Kyle Stephens sentenced after road trip through regional Western Australia

2. Two more crew members of cargo vessel docked off Perth test positive to COVID-19

3. Queensland man escapes COVID-19 hotel quarantine in Perth using bed sheet rope

4. Coronavirus crisis: Woman allegedly ditches hotel quarantine in Perth CBD

#4 is (once again) particularly worrying. How does someone just "leave" their hotel room and "dine and shop in the Perth CBD"?

Its a bit like the Muppet Show with this Covid crisis, isn't it?

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Jesus, what an idiot this woman is.

Bunbury hairdresser Sweeney Todd Barber’s Shop asks vaccinated clients to cancel appointments

“For those clients I have still been seeing, I sincerely ask that if you have had the COVID vaccine could you please cancel your appointment as I am no longer comfortable taking on COVID vaccinated people,” the store’s owner Abi Locock wrote.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2021 at 6:52am:


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Sweeney Todd Barber’s Shop recently took to Facebook, asking customers to cancel their appointments if they had received a COVID jab.


Yes, of course... Facebook. Roll Eyes

Another idiot like this one back in May.

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A Queensland business owner is refusing customers who have received a COVID-19 vaccine because of information she discovered on “the rabbit warren of the internet”.


Spending less time in that "rabbit warren" (especially social media) might help.

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Originally from Melbourne, Adler’s Palm Beach business also provides “crystal healing” and “frequency technology and sound healing for your full mind body hair experience”.
  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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In social media posts, she explained why she made a rule stating “we are not your hairdresser if you have had the COVID vax”.


Social media. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

These clowns must "think" the vaccines give you Covid... they probably also "think" people are being injected with microchips so the government can control them (with the 5G towers). Grin Grin
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And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

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Another vessel is on its way to Western Australia with crew members suspected to be infected with COVID-19.

Almost a week after the BBC California docked in the state with 10 infected crew members on board, Premier Mark McGowan said the Darya Krishna alerted authorities that four of its 20 crew members were unwell with respiratory disease symptoms.


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The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.


Just a matter of time before we're in lockdown again here in Perth, I'm predicting it'll be within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be until after my birthday party on August 8th (my birthday is the 5th but we're planning to have the party on Sunday the 8th).

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you havent had any protesters screaming abuse because they have been told to stay home and stop spreading germs?????>.. lucky you maybe all the loonies live in the East it seems that way at times...
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I tell you Cods, Im in WA for a while, I have to say, its great. Its like an isolated island.
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cods wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 12:07am:
you havent had any protesters screaming abuse because they have been told to stay home and stop spreading germs?????>.. lucky you maybe all the loonies live in the East it seems that way at times...


We had a bunch of stupid Karens driving around with anti-vax slogans painted on their cars while Gordon's mate in Sydney was punching horses, but that's about it.

Most people here do the right thing, and it's worked out well for us so far.
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"Gladys-level STUPID", indeed.

Yes, call it off now, Mark. Or, move it to somewhere safer.
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Carl D wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 8:56am:
"Gladys-level STUPID", indeed.

Yes, call it off now, Mark. Or, move it to somewhere safer.



The word safe was not used often enough in that tweet
I expect the word safe to be used at least 20 times to prove the virtue of the tweeter
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Carl D wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

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Another vessel is on its way to Western Australia with crew members suspected to be infected with COVID-19.

Almost a week after the BBC California docked in the state with 10 infected crew members on board, Premier Mark McGowan said the Darya Krishna alerted authorities that four of its 20 crew members were unwell with respiratory disease symptoms.


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The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.


Just a matter of time before we're in lockdown again here in Perth, I'm predicting it'll be within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be until after my birthday party on August 8th (my birthday is the 5th but we're planning to have the party on Sunday the 8th).



Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

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wo unvaccinated Western Australia healthcare workers have been put into isolation after a quarantine breach involving three sick crew members from a COVID-riddled ship.
Health Minister Roger Cook said the state had recorded two new COVID-19 cases linked to the Darya Krishna ship docked in Fremantle.
Three crew members were taken to the Fiona Stanley Hospital and tested positive.
Mr Cook said a mechanical fault had resulted in a "disappointing" breach which has required the 14 day isolation of two healthcare workers who entered an unclean lift.


Planes... ships... and now lifts.

"Unclean lift" breach #1

"Unclean lift" breach #2

Maybe they should just use the stairs? Roll Eyes


Edit: More on today's "Unclean lift" saga

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On arrival at the hospital, the crew members were tested for COVID-19 and the results had since shown they were all infected.

The trio were initially kept in negative pressure rooms at FSH’s emergency department and then taken to the intensive care unit via a service lift which is not accessible to the public.

They rode the lift to level one, where ICU is located. The lift then went up to level nine for cleaning and to be ventilated for 30 minutes to reduce the risk of infection.

But within 90 seconds of reaching level nine, the empty lift malfunctioned and started moving due to a “mechanical failure” before it could be cleaned and ventilated.

Two hospital staff — a trainee nurse and a technician — were able to enter the lift on two separate occasions. They were initially told to isolate at home but have now been sent to hotel quarantine.

To compound the double blunder, both healthcare workers had decided they did not want to receive a COVID-19 vaccination, despite being eligible for a Pfizer jab since February.


It could almost be called a comedy if the potential consequences were not so serious.
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Reply #473 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 5:39pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
Carl D wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

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Another vessel is on its way to Western Australia with crew members suspected to be infected with COVID-19.

Almost a week after the BBC California docked in the state with 10 infected crew members on board, Premier Mark McGowan said the Darya Krishna alerted authorities that four of its 20 crew members were unwell with respiratory disease symptoms.


Quote:
The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.


Just a matter of time before we're in lockdown again here in Perth, I'm predicting it'll be within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be until after my birthday party on August 8th (my birthday is the 5th but we're planning to have the party on Sunday the 8th).



Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

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wo unvaccinated Western Australia healthcare workers have been put into isolation after a quarantine breach involving three sick crew members from a COVID-riddled ship.
Health Minister Roger Cook said the state had recorded two new COVID-19 cases linked to the Darya Krishna ship docked in Fremantle.
Three crew members were taken to the Fiona Stanley Hospital and tested positive.
Mr Cook said a mechanical fault had resulted in a "disappointing" breach which has required the 14 day isolation of two healthcare workers who entered an unclean lift.


Planes... ships... and now lifts.

"Unclean lift" breach #1

"Unclean lift" breach #2

Maybe they should just use the stairs? Roll Eyes


The absolute stupidity behind some of the decisions which are being made, they are putting the covid isolation areas on the top floors of the hospitals. This Cook idiot does not have a clue.
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rhino wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 5:39pm:
The absolute stupidity behind some of the decisions which are being made, they are putting the covid isolation areas on the top floors of the hospitals. This Cook idiot does not have a clue.


Unbelievable, isn't it?

I've added a bit more to my previous post, btw.

Let's hope the name on the side of the ship isn't an omen (if you remove the C). Shocked
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rhino wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 5:39pm:
Carl D wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
Carl D wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 11:58pm:
And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

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Another vessel is on its way to Western Australia with crew members suspected to be infected with COVID-19.

Almost a week after the BBC California docked in the state with 10 infected crew members on board, Premier Mark McGowan said the Darya Krishna alerted authorities that four of its 20 crew members were unwell with respiratory disease symptoms.


Quote:
The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.


Just a matter of time before we're in lockdown again here in Perth, I'm predicting it'll be within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be until after my birthday party on August 8th (my birthday is the 5th but we're planning to have the party on Sunday the 8th).



Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

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wo unvaccinated Western Australia healthcare workers have been put into isolation after a quarantine breach involving three sick crew members from a COVID-riddled ship.
Health Minister Roger Cook said the state had recorded two new COVID-19 cases linked to the Darya Krishna ship docked in Fremantle.
Three crew members were taken to the Fiona Stanley Hospital and tested positive.
Mr Cook said a mechanical fault had resulted in a "disappointing" breach which has required the 14 day isolation of two healthcare workers who entered an unclean lift.


Planes... ships... and now lifts.

"Unclean lift" breach #1

"Unclean lift" breach #2

Maybe they should just use the stairs? Roll Eyes


The absolute stupidity behind some of the decisions which are being made, they are putting the covid isolation areas on the top floors of the hospitals. This Cook idiot does not have a clue.


I'm so angry about this.

I have no problem with the crew being treated - they must be given the best possible care wherever it's available.

However, everyone saw this coming.

We all knew this was going to backfire, so why didn't Cook and why didn't he make sure we would all be wrong?

He needs to go.  Now.

Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.


Agreed.

And, this "technical fault" with the lift is definitely a bit suss.

Was the lift sent to the 9th floor with no-one in it and someone was supposed to meet it there and stop it leaving until it was cleaned and ventilated? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Or, did someone ride with the lift up to the 9th floor and then forgot to 'lock it out' to stop it from leaving that floor?

Unbelievable incompetence. And, don't get me started on unvaccinated health care workers. The State government has been 'dithering' on making vaccination compulsory for them for months now.
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Reply #477 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 7:46pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 7:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.


Agreed.

And, this "technical fault" with the lift is definitely a bit suss.

Was the lift sent to the 9th floor with no-one in it and someone was supposed to meet it there and stop it leaving until it was cleaned and ventilated? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Or, did someone ride with the lift up to the 9th floor and then forgot to 'lock it out' to stop it from leaving that floor?

Unbelievable incompetence. And, don't get me started on unvaccinated health care workers. The State government has been 'dithering' on making vaccination compulsory for them for months now.


All they had to do was put some ropes & bollards around the lifts on every floor, with a security guard in attendance, while the patient was being taken up.

Simple, easy to implement, and a good back-up just in case the doors did accidentally open on the wrong floor/s.

Such stupidity.  Such incompetence.  Unbelievable.
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But the busiest airport for arrivals was Bunbury Airport in Western Australia, with 22 flights - all from the US and all this month.


Too scared to land and be seen at Perth Airport because of the extremely likely and well deserved outrage, eh?

As we've said before (many times)... one rule for "them" and another for the rest of us.


I pretty sure Bunbury airport did not get any flight from the US last month and has never in its life had a plane from the US land there.
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Getting a bit tired of these football arseholes.

"WA Police have charged Fremantle Dockers assistant coach Josh Carr after he allegedly breached quarantine rules in Perth."

Fremantle Dockers assistant coach Josh Carr charged over alleged quarantine breach in Perth


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And... here we go again.

Mark McGowan press conference: WA FIFO worker tests positive to COVID-19 but holds fire on new lockdown

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Mark McGowan has revealed a FIFO worker has “probably or possibly” been COVID positive in the community in recent weeks.

However, the Premier did not announce that Perth would be plunged into its fourth lockdown of the year.

Mr McGowan said the FIFO worker, a maintenance contractor in his 30s from Fortescue’s Cloudbreak mine site, had returned a “very, very weak” positive test result.

“The suspicion is that he may well have been positive at some point in the community,” Mr McGowan said.

“We don’t know if he’s infectious because, to further complicated matters, this person had been COVID positive back in March and April of last year.”

The FIFO worker was at Perth Airport between 4am and 7am on July 20 at the same time as an infected man who flew from Queensland to WA after completing hotel quarantine.

Encouragingly, that man had the Alpha strain of the virus rather than the much faster spreading Delta variant.


Another lockdown for Perth by this weekend? Anyone? (My guess is YEP!!). Roll Eyes
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WA and tassie risk being the 2 last places on earth to come to terms with covid.

nsw is on its way.
the marathon has commenced.
their hospitals are learning the processes that will be needed from no on to deal with covid.
how to tweak the system so you can cope, with staff who are not inappropriately quarantined.

qld is learning some lessons.
the 2 prestigous schools that were locked down along with their parents resulted in every paediatric cardiac surgeon in the state being forced to isolate (they must all have kids at these elite schools)
then a mad scramble had to be done to release one for emergency surgery.

eventually, people learn to be pragmatic, they learn to handle the novelty.

this is going to be an absolutley inescapable learning curve for every hospital and health system in australia.

so it good  that this is now occuring

and then people will eventually learn to just get on with living .


this will happen last in WA and tassie.

but it has to happen.

when qld,nsw victoria and SA are all opening up (say in december), they will have been blooded . they will be veterans.
they will feel confident they can handle it.

wa and tassie will be trembling virgins and then , whammo, they will get hit and struggle.

the struggle is inevitable.

might as well start learning the skills
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Reply #482 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:52pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
WA and tassie risk being the 2 last places on earth to come to terms with covid.

nsw is on its way.
the marathon has commenced.
their hospitals are learning the processes that will be needed from no on to deal with covid.
how to tweak the system so you can cope, with staff who are not inappropriately quarantined.

qld is learning some lessons.
the 2 prestigous schools that were locked down along with their parents resulted in every paediatric cardiac surgeon in the state being forced to isolate (they must all have kids at these elite schools)
then a mad scramble had to be done to release one for emergency surgery.

eventually, people learn to be pragmatic, they learn to handle the novelty.

this is going to be an absolutley inescapable learning curve for every hospital and health system in australia.

so it good  that this is now occuring

and then people will eventually learn to just get on with living .


this will happen last in WA and tassie.

but it has to happen.

when qld,nsw victoria and SA are all opening up (say in december), they will have been blooded . they will be veterans.
they will feel confident they can handle it.

wa and tassie will be trembling virgins and then , whammo, they will get hit and struggle.

the struggle is inevitable.

might as well start learning the skills




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me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.


Once the weather warms up, it will miraculously disappear.

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rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?



by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.

WA and Tassie will be totally out of sync with the rest of the world.

my prediction is we will never again see the eastern states able to prevent some community spread

and that will become the reality for WA in november
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?



by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.
 
which is exactly what was predicted, allow the virus to spread like you advocated and it mutates, which is exactly what it has done. Now you are admitting it is a concern, thats a step in the right direction, just listen to your intellectual superiors next time.
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Reply #488 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:17pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:14pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?



by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.
 
which is exactly what was predicted, allow the virus to spread like you advocated and it mutates, which is exactly what it has done. Now you are admitting it is a concern, thats a step in the right direction, just listen to your intellectual superiors next time.


sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

we will have to learn the lessons of personal responsibility whilst facing a much bigger challenge.

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:12pm:
Once the weather warms up, it will miraculously disappear.



Yep, its going to be 22 degrees here in Perth on Friday which is the warmest its been here in what seems like forever so we should be OK. Cool
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:55pm:
me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.




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Anyway... I hope I can have my birthday party this Sunday before we're in another lockdown (my birthday is tomorrow but the party is on Sunday because one of the attendees is working tomorrow).
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Rubbish, quite often it is appropriate to slow things down and make a plan on how to deal with that particular emergency. In fact anyone who has had training in emergency response has been taught exactly that, slow down, make a plan, appoint commander(s) etc.
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Reply #494 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
WA and tassie risk being the 2 last places on earth to come to terms with covid.

nsw is on its way.
the marathon has commenced.
their hospitals are learning the processes that will be needed from no on to deal with covid.
how to tweak the system so you can cope, with staff who are not inappropriately quarantined.

qld is learning some lessons.
the 2 prestigous schools that were locked down along with their parents resulted in every paediatric cardiac surgeon in the state being forced to isolate (they must all have kids at these elite schools)
then a mad scramble had to be done to release one for emergency surgery.

eventually, people learn to be pragmatic, they learn to handle the novelty.

this is going to be an absolutley inescapable learning curve for every hospital and health system in australia.

so it good  that this is now occuring

and then people will eventually learn to just get on with living .


this will happen last in WA and tassie.

but it has to happen.

when qld,nsw victoria and SA are all opening up (say in december), they will have been blooded . they will be veterans.
they will feel confident they can handle it.

wa and tassie will be trembling virgins and then , whammo, they will get hit and struggle.

the struggle is inevitable.

might as well start learning the skills

Do you also walk around town barefoot in a soiled toga holding a lamp?
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Reply #495 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong
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Reply #496 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:10pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Rubbish, quite often it is appropriate to slow things down and make a plan on how to deal with that particular emergency. In fact anyone who has had training in emergency response has been taught exactly that, slow down, make a plan, appoint commander(s) etc. 



not if you spend 18 months making that plan  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #497 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.
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Reply #498 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:46pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.


Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.
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Reply #499 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.


Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.



they were all at the start and nearly all elderly.

now we have to face up to the fact we are going to have a spread of delta which targets younger people.

our deaths are in the future.

we will pay a higher price for our inertia
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Reply #500 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:09pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.


Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.



they were all at the start and nearly all elderly.



You really are a horrible, horrible little man.

Just to recap:

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Less than half our population, yet almost 16 times the death count.

You really are are an incredibly stupid, ignorant, ageist prick (who obviously never studied maths in primary school).

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Reply #501 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.



it's summer in Sweden. Thing always improve over the summer
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Reply #502 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:14pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:10pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Rubbish, quite often it is appropriate to slow things down and make a plan on how to deal with that particular emergency. In fact anyone who has had training in emergency response has been taught exactly that, slow down, make a plan, appoint commander(s) etc. 



not if you spend 18 months making that plan  Grin Grin Grin Grin
How would you know? You dont have any experience at dealing  with emergencies.
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Reply #503 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:18pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:10pm:
rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Rubbish, quite often it is appropriate to slow things down and make a plan on how to deal with that particular emergency. In fact anyone who has had training in emergency response has been taught exactly that, slow down, make a plan, appoint commander(s) etc. 



not if you spend 18 months making that plan  Grin Grin Grin Grin
How would you know? You dont have any experience at dealing  with emergencies.


he helped a horse that got stuck once ..... does that count?
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Reply #504 - Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:20pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.


Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.



they were all at the start ...


Nope.

100% wrong, yet again.

The majority of deaths have been in the last eight months.

How many times can you be wrong in one day?  I'm curious.

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620 (population 10 million)

- Australia: 927 (population 25 million)

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aquas a know all dikhed who has never done anything, thats his problem. Considers actually researching a subject before claiming to know everything about it wasted effort by his own account.
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rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
aquas a know all dikhed who has never done anything, thats his problem. Considers actually researching a subject before claiming to know everything about it wasted effort by his own account.


Everything he claims to be true is actually the exact opposite of the truth.

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WA couple returning from Victoria fined for breaching quarantine with four-hour pub session

On Monday, a WA couple was fined $1,500 and released after spending 15 days in custody for failing to quarantine upon returning from a locked-down Victoria last month.


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Reply #509 - Aug 10th, 2021 at 11:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 7:20pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.



still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong



less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.


Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.



they were all at the start ...


Nope.

100% wrong, yet again.

The majority of deaths have been in the last eight months.

How many times can you be wrong in one day?  I'm curious.

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620 (population 10 million)

- Australia: 927 (population 25 million)


It's not over yet.

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Guess who's at it again?

Why am I not surprised Clive is another anti vaxxer nutter? And, he's obviously still p****d off with WA and our Premier, Mark McGowan.

Clive Palmer vaccination threat: Mark McGowan blasts billionaire over ‘terrible’ idea


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/clive-palmer-vaccination-threat-mark-mcg...

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This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.


Yes, of course. But, as usual... yours truly is still buying The West Australian at the shops every day so here it is... I wonder if Clive can make an even bigger fool of himself than he already has? (I'm sure he can).
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flip... and... Clive's STILL an idiot with too much spare time (and money) on his hands.

Oh, is he also threatening all of the other States with lawsuits over their vaccine rollouts? Roll Eyes
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Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!
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Carl D wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
Guess who's at it again?

Why am I not surprised Clive is another anti vaxxer nutter? And, he's obviously still p****d off with WA and our Premier, Mark McGowan.

Clive Palmer vaccination threat: Mark McGowan blasts billionaire over ‘terrible’ idea


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/clive-palmer-vaccination-threat-mark-mcg...

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This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.


Yes, of course. But, as usual... yours truly is still buying The West Australian at the shops every day so here it is... I wonder if Clive can make an even bigger fool of himself than he already has? (I'm sure he can).



If anyone deserved to get covid it's that fat fool
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John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 10th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
Guess who's at it again?

Why am I not surprised Clive is another anti vaxxer nutter? And, he's obviously still p****d off with WA and our Premier, Mark McGowan.

Clive Palmer vaccination threat: Mark McGowan blasts billionaire over ‘terrible’ idea


https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/clive-palmer-vaccination-threat-mark-mcg...

Quote:
This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.


Yes, of course. But, as usual... yours truly is still buying The West Australian at the shops every day so here it is... I wonder if Clive can make an even bigger fool of himself than he already has? (I'm sure he can).



If anyone deserved to get covid it's that fat fool


It would kill him too.

Thoughts & prayers.

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Looks like he's a real sucker for punishment.

Clive Palmer says he will sue over WA's mandatory vaccination requirement for travellers


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-ru...

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Queensland businessman Clive Palmer says he will launch a High Court challenge to Western Australia's plan to make people from high-risk states show they have had at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccination before entering the state.


He's also been putting his stupid yellow ads in The West Australian again over the past week or two... not full page ones thank goodness, just smaller ones at the bottom of the front page which is bad enough. Roll Eyes
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:47pm:
Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!


From what I've read the past few days the AFL players will not be allowed to bring their wives or girlfriends or any other family to Perth if the Grand Final is held here and Mr. McGowan may also be insisting that all players have been vaccinated.

Hopefully, with conditions like that the AFL will give it to another State instead of WA if the game cannot be played at the MCG.
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Carl D wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 8:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:47pm:
Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!


From what I've read the past few days the AFL players will not be allowed to bring their wives or girlfriends or any other family to Perth if the Grand Final is held here ...


One would hope that goes without saying.

McGowan better get tough on this - we don't want them here!!!

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I accompanied a friend who was getting her first Pfizer jab at the new Perth Convention Centre Clinic today.

From the minute she walked in the door until the time she walked out, 35 minutes in total.

And that includes the 15 minute wait in the post-jab area.

Can't complain about that.

Took me about the same at the Claremont Showgrounds jabby place.

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Reply #519 - Aug 17th, 2021 at 7:23pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
Looks like he's a real sucker for punishment.

Clive Palmer says he will sue over WA's mandatory vaccination requirement for travellers


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-ru...

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Queensland businessman Clive Palmer says he will launch a High Court challenge to Western Australia's plan to make people from high-risk states show they have had at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccination before entering the state.


He's also been putting his stupid yellow ads in The West Australian again over the past week or two... not full page ones thank goodness, just smaller ones at the bottom of the front page which is bad enough. Roll Eyes



I wonder if the feds will help him with this law suit as well Cheesy Cheesy
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
I accompanied a friend who was getting her first Pfizer jab at the new Perth Convention Centre Clinic today.

From the minute she walked in the door until the time she walked out, 35 minutes in total.

And that includes the 15 minute wait in the post-jab area.

Can't complain about that.

Took me about the same at the Claremont Showgrounds jabby place.



I arrived 45 minutes early for my first 'jab' at the vaccination hub near Perth Domestic Airport on June 17th and went in straight away, I ended up walking out about 20 minutes before my actual appointment time (11:30am) even with the 15 minute wait after the 'jab' because they were so quiet that day.

I'm guessing my second appointment for September 13th at Claremont Showgrounds might take a bit longer probably due to more people making bookings for the vaccines especially after they've seen what's happening in NSW at the moment.

I'm going to ask my 91 year old aunt's GP today about her second Covid vaccination because she's due for it and we haven't heard anything yet, they didn't make a second appointment for her when she had the first 'jab' in mid May.
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John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2021 at 7:23pm:
I wonder if the feds will help him with this law suit as well Cheesy Cheesy


Surely ScoMo isn't that stupid, is he? Oh, wait.... silly question.

But, I did read somewhere recently (may have been in our West Australian newspaper) that the Federal government won't be backing Clive on this which isn't surprising seeing as they want to get as many people vaccinated as soon as possible.

Oh, here's Clive's ad which was in yesterday's paper at the bottom of the front page, he's been running them for the past few weeks... most of them were about border closures costing jobs, etc. but this is a new one.

Yes, Clive, I'll actually agree with you this time... WA does need more hospitals (and the doctors, nurses and staff to run them).

Maybe Clive should pay for some of those things instead of wasting his money on stupid lawsuits and ads in the paper?
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Agreement reached on purpose-built quarantine facility in WA

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The Commonwealth and Western Australian Government have today reached an agreement to move forward with the delivery of a 1,000 bed purpose-built quarantine and emergency response facility in the state.

Under the agreement, the Commonwealth will fund the construction of the facility and the Western Australian Government will operate the facility and meet operational costs during the COVID-19 pandemic.


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Planning for the facility aims to secure the first 500 beds being ready by the end of March 2022.


Well, its finally a step in the right direction but I'm hoping we're not in the same situation (or worse) as NSW by the end of next March. That's a LONG time to wait.
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Carl D wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 12:20pm:
Agreement reached on purpose-built quarantine facility in WA

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The Commonwealth and Western Australian Government have today reached an agreement to move forward with the delivery of a 1,000 bed purpose-built quarantine and emergency response facility in the state.

Under the agreement, the Commonwealth will fund the construction of the facility and the Western Australian Government will operate the facility and meet operational costs during the COVID-19 pandemic.


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Planning for the facility aims to secure the first 500 beds being ready by the end of March 2022.


Well, its finally a step in the right direction but I'm hoping we're not in the same situation (or worse) as NSW by the end of next March. That's a LONG time to wait.


They building it next to the Jandakot Spudshed?   Undecided
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Reply #524 - Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 

Even though I have tickets for it, I hope McGowan cancels the Bledisloe Cup scheduled for Saturday week.

I'll be pretty disappointed with him if he doesn't.

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Idiots from all over this wide brown land would try to get there!

Piss off! Said idiots would have to drive through SA! We are doing OK thans very much, don’t want brainless idiots bringing COVID here!
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Reply #526 - Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:45pm
 

Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.
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Reply #527 - Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:45pm:
Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.



you might get morons with yachts trying to bypass the lockdown Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:45pm:
Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.



you might get morons with yachts trying to bypass the lockdown Cheesy


Yep.

Despite having two shots of Pfizer Comirnaty in me, I'm laying low that weekend.

I don't trust anyone.

Plus, metal objects keep sticking to me when I get close to 5G towers.
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Reply #529 - Aug 18th, 2021 at 8:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:56pm:
Plus, metal objects keep sticking to me when I get close to 5G towers.


Watch out for those weaponised 5G bats, Greg... probably more dangerous than swooping magpies at this time of year. Shocked

Where's Sir Nail? I'm surprised he hasn't been on to this already. Cheesy Cheesy Grin

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And, what do we have here?

Plane load of detainees from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone flown to Western Australia

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While the ABC has been told a plane load of Villawood detention centre detainees and guards had been moved from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone to Western Australia in an early-morning operation, Australian Border Force will not say why.


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The ABC understands the group boarded a large passenger jet, which later stopped in Melbourne to pick up another detainee.

By then, there were 72 detainees and guards on board.

"For each detainee, we had two other officers that were assigned to us," Mr Basa said.

"So, although we were secured, we still had to have two other officers sitting either side of us and [we were] handcuffed the entire time, for over 17 hours."

Upon arrival in Perth, Mr Basa said he was swabbed before being taken into a quarantine facility inside the Yongah Hill detention centre at Northam, which is just under 100km north-east of Perth.

He said he was still in the dark as to why he and the others had been moved across the country.


Yet another gamble with Covid... which up until now has 'won' nearly every time - here in Australia and worldwide.

Been reading rumours that the Federal government needs Villawood emptied for refugees coming from Afghanistan... no-one knows at this stage.

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Northam Shire President Chris Antonio said he was angry not to have been told about the detainee transfer.


I'll bet Mark is pretty angry as well.

Hope there's an explanation coming... and soon.
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Reply #531 - Aug 19th, 2021 at 11:59am
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 11:55pm:
And, what do we have here?

Plane load of detainees from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone flown to Western Australia

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While the ABC has been told a plane load of Villawood detention centre detainees and guards had been moved from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone to Western Australia in an early-morning operation, Australian Border Force will not say why.


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The ABC understands the group boarded a large passenger jet, which later stopped in Melbourne to pick up another detainee.

By then, there were 72 detainees and guards on board.

"For each detainee, we had two other officers that were assigned to us," Mr Basa said.

"So, although we were secured, we still had to have two other officers sitting either side of us and [we were] handcuffed the entire time, for over 17 hours."

Upon arrival in Perth, Mr Basa said he was swabbed before being taken into a quarantine facility inside the Yongah Hill detention centre at Northam, which is just under 100km north-east of Perth.

He said he was still in the dark as to why he and the others had been moved across the country.


Yet another gamble with Covid... which up until now has 'won' nearly every time - here in Australia and worldwide.

Been reading rumours that the Federal government needs Villawood emptied for refugees coming from Afghanistan... no-one knows at this stage.

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The Premier of Western Australia, Mark McGowan, said he was not told about the transfer.


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Northam Shire President Chris Antonio said he was angry not to have been told about the detainee transfer.


I'll bet Mark is pretty angry as well.

Hope there's an explanation coming... and soon.

Well if you want to force everyone to learn to live with it as soon as possible and "reopen"as soon as possible, whilst dealing with states not following that program, just find as many ways possible to increase the chances of "accidentally" infecting the recalcitrant states. Wink
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Reply #532 - Aug 19th, 2021 at 2:10pm
 



A Victorian woman slapped with a suspended jail term and criminal record for having a picnic with her dying father while subject to quarantine rules has won an appeal to have her sentence reduced.


A Victorian woman slapped with a suspended jail term and criminal record for having a picnic with her dying father while subject to quarantine rules has won an appeal to have her sentence reduced.

“The appellant was 49 years of age at the time of the offending, with outstanding antecedents, and she lawfully entered Western Australia after making all necessary inquiries and applications to enter with permission to visit her dying elderly father,” he said.

“The appellant understood that she was permitted to visit her father at the hospital. That was so until her father, a patient in palliative care, was transferred to the second hospital.

“The appellant had a negative COVID-19 test result on day two of her self-quarantine ... [and] was actively meeting her obligations.”

The woman is the fourth person to successfully appeal their jail sentence for breaching quarantine laws in WA.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/victorian-woman-given-jail-term-for-visiting-dying-father-in-wa-wins-appeal-20210818-p58jrf.html


So if you are not up go speed on the arcane rules - you are ok with the rules until we move your dad to another hospital, and then you are no longer ok - you get sentenced to jail time  which you can, for now and in our infinite mercy, appeal.

The WA CMO, like Allah, is all-knowing, merciful.


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Reply #533 - Aug 19th, 2021 at 5:11pm
 
goosecat wrote on Aug 19th, 2021 at 11:59am:
Well if you want to force everyone to learn to live with it as soon as possible and "reopen"as soon as possible, whilst dealing with states not following that program, just find as many ways possible to increase the chances of "accidentally" infecting the recalcitrant states. Wink


And, if that doesn't get WA to join 'Covid Club Australia' then the AFL just might.

AFL grand final: Perth parade touted as part of WA’s pitch to bring football showpiece to Optus Stadium

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A grand final parade through the Perth CBD has formed part of WA’s official pitch to secure the AFL showpiece.

The league has drawn up contingency plans to move the game from its traditional home in Victoria amid the substantial pandemic crisis playing out on Australia’s east coast as we near the finals period.

WA is one government asked by AFL powerbrokers to pitch for the decider, given the likelihood it will be moved away from Melbourne where a COVID curfew is in place until at least September 2.

This has placed Perth’s Optus Stadium in a prime position to host the big match, and even a “festival” of finals football over multiple weekends, according to The West Australian.

The WA Government’s pitch is also said to have touted St Georges Terrace as a potential host for a spectacular Melbourne-like grand final parade.


Morons.

Here's the front page of today's West Australian.

"IT MAY BE MORE THAN GRAND FINAL COMING TO WA"

They've got that right... Covid could be coming as well and before you know it we'll be just like New South Wales and Victoria.
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Reply #534 - Aug 20th, 2021 at 4:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Even though I have tickets for it, I hope McGowan cancels the Bledisloe Cup scheduled for Saturday week.

I'll be pretty disappointed with him if he doesn't.




greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18th, 2021 at 7:45pm:
Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.


Its been cancelled (by New Zealand).

Rugby Australia blindsided after New Zealand pulls out of third Bledisloe Cup Test in Perth because of COVID-19

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Rugby Australia (RA) claims it has been blindsided by New Zealand Rugby's (NZR) decision not to send the All Blacks to Perth to play the third Bledisloe Cup Test.

The Rugby Championship fixture, scheduled for August 28, was thrown into chaos by New Zealand's announcement on Friday, which RA called a "unilateral decision".

The All Blacks were initially scheduled to fly to Perth on Sunday in preparation for the Test.

But with New Zealand in lockdown with rising COVID-19 cases and the uncertainty around the schedule, NZR decided not to send the All Blacks squad.


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RA said it would work through alternative dates for the match to still be played in Perth, with close to 60,000 tickets already sold for the match.

It is believed the West Australian government was set to allow the All Blacks into the state, provided they arrived seven days before the match and completed "soft" quarantine, as interstate AFL teams currently do.


"Soft quarantine"? WTF? Even 14 days probably isn't long enough from what we've seen since the start of the pandemic, thank goodness its been cancelled.

Now all we need to worry about is the AFL.
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Reply #535 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:04pm
 

FFS   Roll Eyes

Perth confirmed to host AFL grand final if MCG unavailable

"Optus Stadium will host the 2021 AFL grand final if coronavirus outbreaks and lockdowns force league heavyweights to abandon its traditional home the MCG."

Piss off!  We don't want you here   Angry




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Reply #536 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
FFS   Roll Eyes

Perth confirmed to host AFL grand final if MCG unavailable

"Optus Stadium will host the 2021 AFL grand final if coronavirus outbreaks and lockdowns force league heavyweights to abandon its traditional home the MCG."

Piss off!  We don't want you here   Angry






not everyone is a chode.

some people like to test their athleticism in the arena.

they are sporting "heroes"

i have never heard of a fattie watching netflix being referred to as a hero
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Reply #537 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:25pm
 
Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?

At least you can't catch Covid from watching the game on TV, can you? Oh, wait... the 5G conspiracy nutters might be on to that soon if they're not already.

"Covid mind control signals are being beamed directly into your living room via your TV" Cheesy Cheesy

Now, where's Sir Nail today? Grin Grin
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Reply #538 - Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:48pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:25pm:
Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?



Probably, yeah.

Still not good though.

We don't want the teams and their entourages from the east coming here.

It's absolute madness.

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Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2021 at 5:25pm:
Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?



Actually, no.

That dill, Gill, said he won't hold a grand final without a crowd.

Just cancel the bloody thing already then.

FFS, it's just a game.

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How will Delta get to WA?

My guess is the AFL Grand Final will be the culprit.

Apparently a bunch of AFL people were given travel exceptions and allowed into Perth this morning   Roll Eyes
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“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:27pm:
“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.




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Reply #543 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:27pm:
“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.




hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, Grin Grin Grin

WA will end up a laughing stock


Hermits?    Grin

"In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

"The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks."
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AFL grand final crowds could still be banned in WA if COVID outbreak occurs, emergency chief says

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WA will not hesitate to ban crowds from an AFL grand final in the event of a COVID scare, the state's emergency coordinator says.

But the AFL has all but ruled out allowing the game to go ahead in an empty stadium, preferring to postpone or relocate it.


Relocate it NOW would probably be the best option.
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AFL grand final crowds could still be banned in WA if COVID outbreak occurs, emergency chief says

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WA will not hesitate to ban crowds from an AFL grand final in the event of a COVID scare, the state's emergency coordinator says.

But the AFL has all but ruled out allowing the game to go ahead in an empty stadium, preferring to postpone or relocate it.


Relocate it NOW would probably be the best option.


Yep.

Relocate to Christmas Island.

Don't come here!
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:27pm:
“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.




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WA will end up a laughing stock


Hermits?    Grin

"In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

"The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks."



its 1941 and the japanese have just started to cross the kokoda track


the PM rings WA.

would you like to join us in confronting this threat. the rest of the nation recognises lives will be lost but we also recognise that a threat gets bigger the longer you ignore it.

the premier of WA responds  "no thanks, we think the best thing to do about the japanese is to hide in our bedrooms and , hopefully, they will never get here"

cowardly, unpatriotic, selfish ,

WA are not behaving as "real" australians and the other states will not forget this when future crisis arise (which they will), Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
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Reply #547 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:18pm:
How will Delta get to WA?

My guess is the AFL Grand Final will be the culprit.

Apparently a bunch of AFL people were given travel exceptions and allowed into Perth this morning   Roll Eyes


Yep, that would be my guess too.

Because, if there's one thing we've learnt over the past 18 months its how good some of these sports "stars" are at complying with Covid rules and quarantine, etc. Roll Eyes
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Reply #548 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:56pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:49pm:
its 1941 and the japanese have just started to cross the kokoda track


Really? Are you sure about that? Did this also happen in the alternate reality of 'aquaworld'?

(Hint: When did the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor?)

Anyway... go away... the grown ups are trying to have a conversation here. Smiley
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Western Australia provides update on possibility of hosting AFL grand final

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West Australian Police Commissioner Chris Dawson says the state will wait for the AFL to make a decision on whether the grand final can be held at the MCG before committing to host the 2021 decider in Perth.

On Wednesday, the AFL announced that Optus Stadium would be its first-choice venue if holding the game at the MCG proved unfeasible amid Melbourne’s Covid-19 outbreak.

However, as the league is yet to determine whether the game needs relocating from Melbourne, Western Australia has not signed off on welcoming the code for the decider on September 25.

“We are not yet at a point where we’ve made a decision,” Dawson told ABC Perth on Thursday.

“We have not made a decision because the AFL has not yet made a decision, they have to make a decision themselves.”

Dawson said the state would not host the game at the expense of the health and safety of West Australians.


At least we're smart enough not to have 'signed on the dotted line' just yet.
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From the NSW thread

But also relevant here.
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WA upset by potential change to Qantas international flights

Qantas has flagged it could make a major change when flights to the UK eventually resume, and WA Premier Mark McGowan is not happy.

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West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has hit back at a suggestion by Qantas that Perth may lose its status as a transit hub for flights to London due to WA’s notoriously strict border rules.

Qantas has unveiled its expectation for the return of overseas flights, which are slated for mid-December if Australia hits the 80 per cent vaccination rate needed to trigger the reopening of our international border.

The UK, Singapore, Japan, the US and Canada are among the destinations with high vaccination rates that Qantas expects to fly to first.

With flights to the UK expected to be especially popular, Qantas said it was considering using Darwin as a transit point for non-stop services to London, which before the pandemic, took off and landed at Perth.


Cry me a river, Alan Joyce.

After your little 'dummy spit' here and Jayne Hrdlicka from Virgin's stupid comment back in May its blatantly obvious what the #1 priority is for both of you (hint: it isn't the health and welfare of ordinary Australians).
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aquascoot wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 1:27pm:
“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.




hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, Grin Grin Grin

WA will end up a laughing stock


Hermits?    Grin

"In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

"The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks."



its 1941 and the japanese have just started to cross the kokoda track


the PM rings WA.

would you like to join us in confronting this threat. the rest of the nation recognises lives will be lost but we also recognise that a threat gets bigger the longer you ignore it.

the premier of WA responds  "no thanks, we think the best thing to do about the japanese is to hide in our bedrooms and , hopefully, they will never get here"

cowardly, unpatriotic, selfish ,

WA are not behaving as "real" australians and the other states will not forget this when future crisis arise (which they will), Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

You mean unarmed Australians just all didnt rush to Kokoda without any plan or SMEAC and full of good intentions about confronting the Japanese and hoping to win without any resources,weapons or plans? So why do you think thats what we should do with Covid? Our forebearers werent that stupid, why should we be?
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Reply #553 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 4:15pm
 
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WA upset by potential change to Qantas international flights

Qantas has flagged it could make a major change when flights to the UK eventually resume, and WA Premier Mark McGowan is not happy.

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West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has hit back at a suggestion by Qantas that Perth may lose its status as a transit hub for flights to London due to WA’s notoriously strict border rules.

Qantas has unveiled its expectation for the return of overseas flights, which are slated for mid-December if Australia hits the 80 per cent vaccination rate needed to trigger the reopening of our international border.

The UK, Singapore, Japan, the US and Canada are among the destinations with high vaccination rates that Qantas expects to fly to first.

With flights to the UK expected to be especially popular, Qantas said it was considering using Darwin as a transit point for non-stop services to London, which before the pandemic, took off and landed at Perth.


Cry me a river, Alan Joyce.

After your little 'dummy spit' here and Jayne Hrdlicka from Virgin's stupid comment back in May its blatantly obvious what the #1 priority is for both of you (hint: it isn't the health and welfare of ordinary Australians).


Good call by Qantas. If travel opens between Australia and the UK, but not between WA and the rest of Australia then bypassing Perth is the obvious and sensible thing to do.

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According to ABC

WA COVID scare as NSW truck drivers test positive while in community

Two trucks drivers who travelled to Western Australian from New South Wales have tested positive to COVID-19 after going to several sites across WA.

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

The two men have been taken by ambulance to a hotel in Perth to self-isolate and quarantine.
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Reply #555 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 6:37pm
 
Yep, just saw that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/nsw-truck-drivers-test-positive-for-covid...

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Two trucks drivers who travelled to Western Australian from New South Wales have tested positive to COVID-19 after going to several sites across WA.

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

The two men have been taken by ambulance to a hotel in Perth to self-isolate and quarantine.

More to come.


Hopefully its just another Covid 'scare' but with any luck the AFL Grand Final will be moved somewhere else instead of Optus Stadium here in Perth.
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Reply #556 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 7:03pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 6:37pm:
Yep, just saw that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/nsw-truck-drivers-test-positive-for-covid...

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Two trucks drivers who travelled to Western Australian from New South Wales have tested positive to COVID-19 after going to several sites across WA.

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

The two men have been taken by ambulance to a hotel in Perth to self-isolate and quarantine.

More to come.


Hopefully its just another Covid 'scare' but with any luck the AFL Grand Final will be moved somewhere else instead of Optus Stadium here in Perth.


Yep.

Fingers crossed, this will stop the grand final being held here.

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Reply #557 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 7:05pm
 
If these truck drivers end up causing another Covid outbreak and another lockdown then it will be time for some serious questions to be asked.

Like why on earth are truck drivers being allowed to just drive into WA from NSW which has been a Covid 'basket case' for over 2 months now without being tested before leaving NSW and again when they get here?

Oh...

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The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.


Bit late, eh?  Why were they allowed to leave NSW when they obviously had concerns about having Covid if they were tested?

Essential workers? What a load of BS. Covid doesn't know or care about the difference between "essential workers" and everyone else.

Planes... ships... trucks... its almost like "someone" wants to see a major Covid outbreak here in WA to divert attention away from the incompetence of Gladys Berejiklian (and Scott Morrison).
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Scene: A Covid testing clinic somewhere in New South Wales, two interstate truck drivers enter.

Truck Drivers: "Hi, we've both had a cough and a bit of a runny nose for the past few days and we'd like to get tested for Covid"

Testing Official: "Come right this way, gentlemen, this will only take a few minutes"

5 minutes later...

Testing Official: "There you go, all done. Now, the results will take a day or two to come back but in the meantime make sure you isolate yourselves at home or some other suitable location"

Truck Drivers (winking to each other): "No wucking furries"

1 minute later:

Closing scene (at least for NSW) outside testing clinic:

Truck Drivers (in unison): Nah, stuff it... ROAD TRIP TO PERTH TIME!!!!!!!

You couldn't make this stuff up...
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If its the Delta strain then its all over.
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I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.
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rhino wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.

Unless it's transmissible to marsupials and it mulls around there on the alien highway for a few years, then... y'know...

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rhino wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.


Only a matter of time though.

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Reply #563 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 8:15pm
 
Apparently interstate truck drivers are regularly tested for Covid from what I was reading a short time ago but obviously the system is flawed if this sort of thing happens.

A recent suggestion is for interstate trucks to change drivers at the border before entering WA but that would probably be difficult (and expensive) to implement.

But, not as expensive as the cost of lockdowns, I'm sure.
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Reply #564 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 8:21pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 7:36pm:
Scene: A Covid testing clinic somewhere in New South Wales, two interstate truck drivers enter.

Truck Drivers: "Hi, we've both had a cough and a bit of a runny nose for the past few days and we'd like to get tested for Covid"

Testing Official: "Come right this way, gentlemen, this will only take a few minutes"

5 minutes later...

Testing Official: "There you go, all done. Now, the results will take a day or two to come back but in the meantime make sure you isolate yourselves at home or some other suitable location"

Truck Drivers (winking to each other): "No wucking furries"

1 minute later:

Closing scene (at least for NSW) outside testing clinic:

Truck Drivers (in unison): Nah, stuff it... ROAD TRIP TO PERTH TIME!!!!!!!

You couldn't make this stuff up...



nah ... truck drivers are getting their results back in a matter of hours. Of course it 's only a preliminary result and their tests are sent away for further analysis which then takes longer. If preliminary comes back negative they're free to cross the border but must minimise contact by sleeping in cab and waiting in the cab whilst dock workers at the delivery point unload
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Reply #565 - Aug 27th, 2021 at 8:25pm
 
Thanks, John.

Yep, hopefully things will be OK.

Mark McGowan (or more likely his 'social media team') is keeping everyone up to date here:

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%...

Seems like these 2 truck drivers were doing the right things, at least - sleeping in their truck and wearing masks when outside. Good to see.
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Carl D wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
Apparently interstate truck drivers are regularly tested for Covid from what I was reading a short time ago but obviously the system is flawed if this sort of thing happens.

A recent suggestion is for interstate trucks to change drivers at the border before entering WA but that would probably be difficult (and expensive) to implement.

But, not as expensive as the cost of lockdowns, I'm sure.


Trailer exchange parks—only the trailer goes interstate.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 27th, 2021 at 10:27pm:
Trailer exchange parks—only the trailer goes interstate.


Yep, that would be best at this stage. Hope something like that can be organised soon.

The "heard it on Facebook" crowd are at it again but I have to wonder if there might at least be a grain of truth in this one seeing as the AFL Grand Final could be played here at Optus Stadium and I'm sure the State government and AFL wouldn't want a major Delta outbreak here right now which may cause the game to be cancelled or played with no crowd.

The other ongoing issue is the crisis condition of WA's hospitals and health system which would be overwhelmed with a Covid outbreak just like what's happening in NSW.

We'll see what happens next week.

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Front page of today's West Australian.

Question: What "home essentials" does Harvey Norman sell? Last time I checked they didn't sell food, drink, toilet paper (lol), medicines or other medical products.

Anyone?

Anyone except aqua, that is... I already know what his answer will be... "a new big screen TV for Fat Steve and Fat Janeen to watch during Covid lockdowns". Tongue
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Carl D wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:13pm:
Front page of today's West Australian.

Question: What "Home Essentials" does Harvey Norman sell? Last time I checked they didn't sell food, drink, toilet paper (lol), medicines or other medical products.

Anyone?

Anyone except aqua, that is... I already know what his answer will be... "a new big screen TV for Fat Steve and Fat Janeen to watch during Covid lockdowns". Tongue


Yes.

I guess that because they sell phones and tablets, which can be used as tools to keep in contact with family and friends, they are deemed "essential".

Anyway, I'm pissed off about the two truck drivers.

I assume they have the Goodrem variety of COVID.

So, why aren't we in lockdown?

Simple answer - the AFL has McGowan's balls in a vice.

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TVs , washing machines, ovens, microwaves, all essential items for most people, thats just the way it is.
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TVs , washing machines, ovens, microwaves, all essential items for most people, thats just the way it is. 


True.

Don't buy from them though - they treat their employees like sh!t.

Well, more so than most employers.

JB's are no better.

Good Guys is the preferred option.

Not that they're that great either.
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People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.
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People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


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Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-co...


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Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:31pm:
The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.

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Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:31pm:
People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


The "we don't want a major Covid outbreak here" mindset is probably the strongest of all in WA right now.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:31pm:
The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.



Give it 2 weeks, turd.

It's coming your way.

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Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:31pm:
People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


The "we don't want a major Covid outbreak here" mindset is probably the strongest of all in WA right now.



Yeah, because other people really wanted it.
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Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-co...




FFS  Roll Eyes

Why are we letting these people in?

And that truck yard in Kenwick - I have an associate whom I buy guitars from who lives right near that.

I won't be visiting him for a while.

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Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:31pm:
The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.


Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.



Give it 2 weeks, turd.

It's coming your way.



Two weeks?

I'm expecting it within the next two hours.

And I'm deadly serious.

Delta is here - it's only a matter of time before we go back into lockdown.

Until then though, I'll enjoy the freedom afforded to me by McGowan's tough lockdown policy.


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Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.




Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

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Carl D wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-co...




FFS  Roll Eyes

Why are we letting these people in?

And that truck yard in Kenwick - I have an associate whom I buy guitars from who lives right near that.

I won't be visiting him for a while.



What's going on here?

Quote:
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Close contacts
People seated in the same row as the case, the two rows in front, and the two rows behind should:

    Self-quarantine at home for 14 days

    Seek immediate attention if symptoms develop
    For more information refer to Self-quarantine in Western Australia to prevent the spread of COVID-19 (PDF 184KB).


I thought ALL overseas arrivals were supposed to go into hotel quarantine (as inadequate as it is) for 14 days, not quarantine at home?

No wonder we're sitting on a Covid 'time bomb'. Shocked
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I'll enjoy the freedom afforded to me by McGowan's tough lockdown policy.





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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.




Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

https://i.imgur.com/X1C7Cp1.jpg



yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching
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Reply #585 - Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.




Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

https://i.imgur.com/X1C7Cp1.jpg



yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching


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Reply #586 - Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching


Our 5th lockdown will probably only happen due to the incompetence I've mentioned in my previous post.
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Reply #587 - Aug 28th, 2021 at 9:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.




Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

https://i.imgur.com/X1C7Cp1.jpg



yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching


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how many people in WA 
2 1/2 million?

you get to 70 % vax  (that will be hard without the covid blowtorch)

thats still 900,000 un vaxed.

and from what we see in isreal, they are lining up for number 3 vax as cases rise.

so maybe over a million cases.

delta is SOOOO contagious, you are going to have 1/2 a million cases next year.

if you lock down every time you get a few cases, you'll be locking down forever, so that wont happen,

especially when the rest of OZ is over it.

but say you get 1/2 a million cases next year or even over the next 2 years.

at 10 % hospitalisation thats 50,000 admissions.

see, if you are like most of the rest of the world , its over pretty quick.

but if you draw it out, you have old people in hospital for weeks, 50,000 of them
you will paralyse your hospital system for years, instead of for a few months.

most countries end up with about the same number of deaths.

some have them quick and some draw it out but you wont get away without 1000's of deaths.

that is impossible.

you will hust have many lockdowns, a demolished health system.
you will waste your entire health budget on 85 yo who you will never wean off the ventilator and who probably shouldnt have been admitted in the first place.

look at india, it had a bit of pain for a month or 2 , now its all over. its back playing test cricket.

all WA is doing is slowly slwoly slwoly ripping off ther band aid.

you premier cannot protect you from delta

that is not possible

you are going to have many admissions, much chaos and much mayhem.

better to just get on with it , rather then be the only place on earth still pooping your pants next year, whilst everyone else is kicking back with  a beer, rolling their eyes at you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #588 - Aug 28th, 2021 at 9:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 7:17pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask,  and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.




Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

https://i.imgur.com/X1C7Cp1.jpg



yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching


Wanna make a bet?



Yeah, let's make a bet, turd. You  will dishonour it like you dishonoured every bet. Dishonour is what you do, turd. That's why you are tagged a turd.  You'd  die before you would be honest and honourable.  You get that trait from your dad, Bbwian. A family thing.






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Reading this article this morning about WA.
Does this sound a bit harsh or extreme?

http://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/why-doctors-believe-wa-s-ne...
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Sophia wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:09am:
Reading this article this morning about WA.
Does this sound a bit harsh or extreme?

http://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/why-doctors-believe-wa-s-ne...


The problem I have with this is the exemptions given to sporting clubs.

People can't travel here for compassionate reasons, but if some footballers from New Zealand and Victoria want to come here to play some silly game they're ushered right in.

Not good.
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Reply #591 - Aug 30th, 2021 at 11:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Sophia wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:09am:
Reading this article this morning about WA.
Does this sound a bit harsh or extreme?

http://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/why-doctors-believe-wa-s-ne...


The problem I have with this is the exemptions given to sporting clubs.

People can't travel here for compassionate reasons, but if some footballers from New Zealand and Victoria want to come here to play some silly game they're ushered right in.

Not good.


This has been a problem everywhere. Sports players, millionaires and movie stars getting special treatment.
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Reply #592 - Aug 30th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
Sophia wrote on Aug 30th, 2021 at 10:09am:
Reading this article this morning about WA.
Does this sound a bit harsh or extreme?

http://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/why-doctors-believe-wa-s-ne...


Yes, Lols, it is harsh and extreme.

But, what's the alternative? End up like NSW with 149 deaths so far (and counting) and out of control cases?
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From a WA reader:
McGowan's continuous uneducated attacks on Gladys Berejiklian and the NSW liberal government policy of ‘get the jab’ as the best solution to the Delta variant reveals much about his own Government’s policy failures. He inherited an economy that was at the start on a mining boom. The political pain, as a result of some very hard community infrastructure decisions, was already borne by the previous Barnett liberal government but McGowan has done nothing to capitalize on it. The ineptitude handling of the lack of resources in the hospital system is why he keeps the borders shut. When Delta comes to WA it will be a disaster to his personal ratings, nothing else matters to him. Lowest vaccination rates in Australia especially in the vulnerable indigenous communities. Mental health of those unable to have loved ones cross the border will be around for years to come. Industry pleading for workers to allowed in to pick the crops or even just keep the cafe doors open has fatigue and resulting accidents a real threat. Does he care, answer no.
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dont tell rhino but iron ore prices are down 45 %.

WA is rooted
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FFS, the grand final is being played here   Roll Eyes
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 7:00pm:
FFS, the grand final is being played here   Roll Eyes


*sigh*

Well, at least I should have had my second Covid vaccination before then and my aunt had her second one last week so at least we can stock up on toilet rolls and 'bunker down' if there's a Covid outbreak and lockdown as a result of this.

Let's see if Mark lives up to his 'promise' of not letting wives, girlfriends and other assorted 'hangers on' come here for the game (not like what Annastacia has done with the NRL in Queensland).
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Carl D wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2021 at 7:00pm:
FFS, the grand final is being played here   Roll Eyes


*sigh*

Well, at least I should have had my second Covid vaccination before then and my aunt had her second one last week so at least we can stock up on toilet rolls and 'bunker down' if there's a Covid outbreak and lockdown as a result of this.

Let's see if Mark lives up to his 'promise' of not letting wives, girlfriends and other assorted 'hangers on' come here for the game (not like what Annastacia has done with the NRL in Queensland).


I can tell you that if he lets the WAGS in, he'll lose my vote at the next election.

There's just no need for it.
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This grand final is going to be a disaster for us.

There's going to be a parade, and the stadium is going to be filled to capacity.

Absolute insanity.

Then again, Delta is going to come to Perth sooner or later so at least we'll be ready for it I suppose.

All those panic buyers out there should stock up on toilet paper just before the grand final, because a week or two after the extremely boring game we're going into lock-down. Nothing surer.

Interestingly, I heard that Eddie McGuire isn't allowed to come to Perth for the grand final.

Not sure why, but it seems weird.

Maybe he's an anti-vaxxer   Undecided
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Josh Frydenberg warns WA Delta will seep across its borders ‘within a week or a month’

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Josh Frydenberg has warned WA that Delta will inevitably seep across its borders soon — ‘whether it’s a week or whether it’s a month’ — and the State better be prepared.


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Mark McGowan has accused the Federal Government of being “on a mission” to infect Western Australians with COVID.


Yep, sure sounds like that to me (and probably most West Australians as well). Probably just so Scotty from Marketing and his 'puppet' Gladys in NSW can say "I told you so...".

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“If the borders remain shut and if all states don’t follow the plan, jobs will be lost, businesses will close, the wellbeing of Australians will suffer, our debt burden will increase and our recovery will be slowed,” Mr Frydenberg said.


Hello???? What's happening in NSW and Victoria at the moment with their out of control Covid cases and deaths? Oh, that's right... small businesses don't matter as long as the Liberals' big business mates can 'flourish'.

Can't wait for the Federal election so we can finally bounce these Liberal (money before lives) muppets out on their ears as they so richly deserve.
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Well, we might be 'stuck' with the AFL Grand Final and its potential Covid consequences but at least we can have a good laugh at poor old Eddie.

The front page of yesterday's West Australian.  Grin

Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if he does end up coming here anyway. Roll Eyes
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"Obviously the AFL has essential people, Mr. McGuire was not one of them".

- Mark McGowan.

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Carl D wrote on Sep 3rd, 2021 at 8:29am:
Josh Frydenberg warns WA Delta will seep across its borders ‘within a week or a month’

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Josh Frydenberg has warned WA that Delta will inevitably seep across its borders soon — ‘whether it’s a week or whether it’s a month’ — and the State better be prepared.


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Mark McGowan has accused the Federal Government of being “on a mission” to infect Western Australians with COVID.


Yep, sure sounds like that to me (and probably most West Australians as well). Probably just so Scotty from Marketing and his 'puppet' Gladys in NSW can say "I told you so...".

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“If the borders remain shut and if all states don’t follow the plan, jobs will be lost, businesses will close, the wellbeing of Australians will suffer, our debt burden will increase and our recovery will be slowed,” Mr Frydenberg said.


Hello???? What's happening in NSW and Victoria at the moment with their out of control Covid cases and deaths? Oh, that's right... small businesses don't matter as long as the Liberals' big business mates can 'flourish'.

Can't wait for the Federal election so we can finally bounce these Liberal (money before lives) muppets out on their ears as they so richly deserve.


Imagine you’re Mark McGowan and you tell West Australians “I know we’re COVID-free and our economy is doing well, but I’ve agreed to a national plan developed in Canberra and I’m going to let infected people from the east fly and drive into WA and I know a lot of West Australians will get sick, and many will die as a result, but it’s for the good of the federation and because people in Sydney want to come for a holiday.”

It would be political suicide.

And we've got Michaelia Cash (Federal Senator from WA and Morrison attack dog) claim that the High Court will reverse itself and rule against WA if the boarders remain shut after the 70% or 80% target is reached.

In doing so she has left the door open for the Commonwealth to support another challenge to the boarder restrictions.

But she has exposed the weakness of the government's position. Scott Morrison has again lied to federal parliament by claiming the Commonwealth did not purse Clive Palmer's challenge when in fact Christian Porter intervened to support it.

Morrison knows that supporting an attempt to open WA boarders so WA citizens can get infected and die is so politically toxic he will brazenly lie to Parliament.

We are not so naďve as to think the boarder will keep covid out forever. it's inevitable that it will get in. But we want to open on our terms. By continuing to push the issue the Coalition risks losing the support of a traditionally Liberal voting State.

If Albanese is set to become the next PM, he will need to win seats in WA, seats Morrison will need to defend to continue his residence of the Lodge.

That’s good news and good luck – as if any more could possibly be bestowed on one politician – for McGowan, who again finds himself in a glorious sweet spot to command promises from the East as the election cycle rolls around again.
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So far so good. Despite having finals we haven't had any scares. Let's hope it stays that way.
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Ah, yes, Raven.

But, we still have the GRAND Final to be concerned about.

I've already seen one muppet from Victoria on another forum telling everyone that he wants to get to Perth to see the AFL Grand Final by any means possible.

He says he "knows a way to do it" (illegally, presumably) despite being told by others that the WA Police have become very good at spotting people like him and more than likely all he will see of Perth (assuming he even makes it here) is the inside of the airport and the inside of his quarantine hotel room where he will be spending 14 days at his expense before being sent back to where he came from.

With a hefty fine as well, one would hope.

And, I'm sure the Grand Final would look exactly the same on his TV at home in Victoria as it would in a quarantine hotel room in Perth... would work out a LOT cheaper for him as well.

I also have no doubt whatsoever that this idiot is just the 'tip of the iceberg', there's probably thousands more thinking the same thing right now.
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Mark McGowan reveals WA hard border could stay until April


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-mark-mcgowan-reveals...

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Mark McGowan has dropped a border bombshell, revealing WA could remain closed to COVID-stricken eastern States until April.

While he has acknowledged he “can’t keep the State locked forever”, the Premier told The West Australian that WA’s reopening date could still be seven months away.

If WA remains COVID-free, Mr McGowan has flagged his intention to set a date to permanently abolish the border about six to eight weeks after the State hits a vaccination rate of between 80 and 90 per cent.

“I can’t put a date on (reopening the border) because it’ll be above 80 per cent (vaccination). We’ve got to get above 80 per cent,” Mr McGowan said.


I'm sure most West Australians agree with you, Mark.

Oh, and...

'Get vaccinated and get ready': PM's warning to Western Australia


https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-scott-morrison-tells-wes...

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The Prime Minister has urged Western Australians to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and to prepare to reconnect with the rest of the country.
Scott Morrison has encouraged Western Australia to prepare its health system to deal with coronavirus now after WA Premier Mark McGowan said his state's hard border with the rest of the country would remain until 2022.


Here's Scotty from Marketing with the warnings again. Still looking for that rapidly narrowing 'window of opportunity' to hold a Federal election somewhere between everyone forgetting about your Fathers Day bungle and Covid cases/deaths spiralling out of control and praying you can still win, eh, Scotty?

Bad news, pal... its probably too late for you already.
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march 2022  news release......

the dreaded omega variant strikes perth.

the new variant with a fatality rate 5 x that of delta has devestated perth.

whilst the eastern states kick back with a beer, perth hospitals show scenes of utter chaos as ambulances queue for a kilometre outside casualties where the staff are all in quarantine due to the deadly omega variant.

the premier faces a massive backlash due to his failure to open up the state earlier
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Here you go, aqua... just for you.

Front page of today's West Australian.

Print it out and frame it if you like. Cool
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the west australian
headline
may 2022.

premier forced to stand down as perths hospitals overwhelmed.
eastern states send oxygen and ventilators to perth as they face the hyper contagious omega variant.

as all other countries reach herd immunity, the world looks on in horror as western australia and NZ are devestated by this new strain.

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Raven wrote on Sep 7th, 2021 at 12:32am:
So far so good. Despite having finals we haven't had any scares. Let's hope it stays that way.


I suspect that with NSW giving up on containing it, it's now just a matter of time before it spreads to other states. At least you are a long way away from the New South Welshmen, you don't have them jumping your border .. i have them almost at my door
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aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
the west australian
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premier forced to stand down as perths hospitals overwhelmed.
eastern states send oxygen and ventilators to perth as they face the hyper contagious omega variant.

as all other countries reach herd immunity, the world looks on in horror as western australia and NZ are devestated by this new strain.




you talking about NSW there horse boy? there hospitals can't cope now and thats with lockdowns. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:36pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
the west australian
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premier forced to stand down as perths hospitals overwhelmed.
eastern states send oxygen and ventilators to perth as they face the hyper contagious omega variant.

as all other countries reach herd immunity, the world looks on in horror as western australia and NZ are devestated by this new strain.




you talking about NSW there horse boy? there hospitals can't cope now and thats with lockdowns. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



not at all

nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping

people motivated to get vaxxed.



WA cant cope now and may get the mu variant (more contagious).

when you hide from mother nature, you get weaker and she gets stronger.

NSW will be kicking back with a beer in 6 weeks, just as WA poops its collective pants
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aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping



NSW Covid: ICU nurses send open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning about staffing levels


https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/nsw-covid-icu-nurses-send-op...

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Hundreds of ICU nurses across NSW have signed an open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning the hospital system is already “in crisis”.


I also posted this yesterday but aqua probably didn't read it or just ignored it.
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Carl D wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping



NSW Covid: ICU nurses send open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning about staffing levels


https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/nsw-covid-icu-nurses-send-op...

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Hundreds of ICU nurses across NSW have signed an open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning the hospital system is already “in crisis”.


I also posted this yesterday but aqua probably didn't read it or just ignored it.




december 25  The Western Australian.

as melbounre gets ready for the first day of the ashes and sydeny people party on the beaches, the communities of perth remain in strict lockdown.

the hospital system in WA which never learnt to cope with any level of covid whatsoever remains extremely fragile. despite having only a few  dozen cases, WA has been unable to get these figures down to zero and the premier predicts months more lockdowns . all cancer screening and elective surgery is cancelled.
as the iron ore price continues to plummett, unemployment reaches 10 % in the west and prime minister morrison rules out financial support as the other premiers have adhered to the roadmap out of covid.

out of sync , WA looks likely to remain a basket case for many months, the premiers approval ratings plummett
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“Mark McGowan is the Gollum of Australian politics,” Mr Perrottet told Sky News. “You can just picture him over there in his cave with his little precious, the GST, and he's been caught out by his own budget.

“Yesterday, he (Mr McGowan) lashed out at the other premiers across the country before they've even said anything. And the reality is what transpired is because of the GST revenue.

“What struck me about WA’s substantial surplus is there is no reform to actually protect those monies into the future.”




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aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2021 at 7:50pm:
hospitals coping


you're on drugs if you think NSW's hospitals are coping. People from sydney already have had to travel to Wollongong to get into a hospital because Sydneys are over run. Once numbers reach 2000 cases a day (currently on about 1500 a day) NSW has no more room. Why do you think Ibis Berejiklian has decided to stop giving daily briefings on case numbers?
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Mark McGowan Promises To Re-Open WA Border Once 180% Of Population Jabbed


Western Australia premier Mark McGowen has softened his stance on his state’s border, saying he will consider opening up once 180% of the population is fully vaccinated.

“I’ve always said we’ll take a common-sense approach to opening up,” McGowen told journalists today. “Whether it’s 180% or 190% we’ll wait to see what the modelling shows us. But it’s certainly something we’re looking at”.

He said it would be foolish to re-open at a 170% vaccination rate, as some in Western Australia have been advocating. “Look, I know there are some cowboys out there who are talking about those kinds of rates. But that would be reckless. We don’t want to lose what we’ve got here”.

A survey of Western Australia residents found that many believed the 170% rate was too cavalier. “There’s still a risk,” one said. But most said they were confident that dad would get it right.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/09/10/mark-mcgowan-open-border-180/
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And... they're off and running. The footy moron brigade, that is.

Trying to sneak into WA for the AFL Finals.

Throw the book at these selfish, inconsiderate idiots, I say.

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Can't believe this has to be explained to people... oh, wait... we're talking about footy morons here. Say no more.  Roll Eyes

Mind you, with the way things are going with Covid cases in Victoria I wouldn't be surprised if they join NSW in the "extreme risk" category very soon then these clowns won't be able to travel to WA for any reason.

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Truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA returns positive COVID-19 test but no lockdown planned


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A truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA has tested positive for COVID-19, the WA Health Minister has announced.

But neither a lockdown nor any other restrictions are being considered at this stage, and there are no changes to plans for the AFL grand final.


Of course not... we could have 100 cases a day before the end of the week and we wouldn't be told or have any sort of lockdown until after the AFL Grand Final. Roll Eyes
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Carl D wrote on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 6:21pm:
Truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA returns positive COVID-19 test but no lockdown planned


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A truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA has tested positive for COVID-19, the WA Health Minister has announced.

But neither a lockdown nor any other restrictions are being considered at this stage, and there are no changes to plans for the AFL grand final.


Of course not... we could have 100 cases a day before the end of the week and we wouldn't be told or have any sort of lockdown until after the AFL Grand Final. Roll Eyes


a grand final is a celebration of human athleticism and courage

a lockdown is a celebration of human fragility and cowardice
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Woke up to rain and thunderstorms here in Perth this morning after the great weather we've had for the past week.

Hope the thunder and lightning isn't heralding the arrival and escape of Covid after the AFL Grand Final at Optus Stadium last night. Shocked
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Carl D wrote on Sep 26th, 2021 at 10:38am:
Woke up to rain and thunderstorms here in Perth this morning after the great weather we've had for the past week.

Hope the thunder and lightning isn't heralding the arrival and escape of Covid after the AFL Grand Final at Optus Stadium last night. Shocked


Yeah, it pissed down at 7.30 this morning.

My driveway was flooded.

Big change from yesterday. I can still hear thunder too.

Unfortunately, this wet weather means that those eastern-staters who want to continue celebrating at pubs today will all be indoors, instead of sitting outside in the beer gardens.

That's a bit of a concern.


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lol... poor Eddie!  Cry

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The two idiot Victorians who snuck in for the Grand Final will have to stay behind bars until October 13.

Their case was heard in a Perth court this morning (by phone link) and it has been adjourned until that date.

I hope it was worth it, guys.

"Prominent Melbourne restaurateur Hayden Burbank, 49, and his 39-year-old financial planner friend Mark Babbage allegedly left Melbourne for Darwin on September 14 then flew to Perth on September 22."

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Here we go    Roll Eyes

A ship full of people infected with COVID has docked in Fremantle.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:01pm:
Here we go    Roll Eyes

A ship full of people infected with COVID has docked in Fremantle.



Nothing against them, by the way.

Give them all the treatment we can - they need to be looked after.

But we're going into lock-down within the next ten days - I can feel it.


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I agree. They need to be treated.

But, if they're being taken to Fiona Stanley Hospital I sure hope they've fixed the lift 'malfunction' since the MV Darya Krishna episode in July.

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"A mechanical fault with one of the lifts at Fiona Stanley Hospital has resulted in a breach during the transfer of one of the crew members," Mr Cook said.


And, yes, I strongly suspect Perth and most of WA will be having another lockdown in the very near future (which I'm sure will make aquascoot and a few others here very happy).
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Mutation shows the Virus is WINNING.
It's 'Growing'.



Winning what, you chronic incel fart sucker? All viruses mutate over time as part of their natural evolution and biology. Only diffy being thanks to you anti-vaxer conspiracy bag of dicks, the strains have become more lethal, not less. Now go clean up your room before your mother takes away your Xbox privileges.
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Singapore oil tanker crew members rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid COVID-19 fears

Two crew members on board an oil and chemical tanker berthed in Fremantle have been rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid concerns they could have been infected with COVID-19.

The Cayman Islands-flagged Stolt Sakura arrived at the West Australian port on Saturday morning, after several workers reported flu-like symptoms at sea.


Two crew members on board an oil and chemical tanker berthed in Fremantle have been rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid concerns they could have been infected with COVID-19.

The Cayman Islands-flagged Stolt Sakura arrived at the West Australian port on Saturday morning, after several workers reported flu-like symptoms at sea.

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To date, 12 workers out of the 22 crew on the ship, who are all from the Philippines, have returned inconclusive results to rapid antigen COVID tests.

Most have reported mild or no coronavirus symptoms.

Rapid antigen tests are notorious for returning false positives and require a follow-up PCR test to confirm an infection if they give a result other than negative.

WA health authorities boarded the ship on Saturday morning to swab the crew and confirm whether they have been infected with the virus through PCR testing.

The results are expected to be made public on Sunday.
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WA Health says 12 of 22 crew members on oil tanker Stolt Sakura positive for COVID-19

Testing has identified 12 positive COVID-19 cases among 22 crew members on oil and chemical tanker the Stolt Sakura, which docked in Fremantle Harbour yesterday.

Three of the crew members are in hospital in Perth, with two in ICU.

The other crew members are quarantining on the ship.

A diplomat from Serbia who flew into Perth on September 29 has also tested positive for COVID-19.

The man, aged in his 30s, flew into the WA capital with his wife and child and all were self-quarantining in an apartment.

The diplomat tested positive for COVID-19 a few days after his arrival.

The family has since been transferred to hotel quarantine.

More to come.

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Saw some interesting stats today.

The Perth suburbs with the highest vaccination rates are Peppermint Grove and Claremont.

For those form the east, those suburbs are full of highly paid professionals - doctors, judges, surgeons, lawyers, etc.

The suburbs with the lowest vaccination rates are Kwinana, Rockingham, Gosnells, and Armadale.

Again, for those from the east, those suburbs are full of warehouse workers, the unemployed, bikie gang clubhouses, and high school drop outs.

Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2021 at 8:17pm:
Saw some interesting stats today.

The Perth suburbs with the highest vaccination rates are Peppermint Grove and Claremont.

For those form the east, those suburbs are full of highly paid professionals - doctors, judges, surgeons, lawyers, etc.

The suburbs with the lowest vaccination rates are Kwinana, Rockingham, Gosnells, and Armadale.

Again, for those from the east, those suburbs are full of warehouse workers, the unemployed, bikie gang clubhouses, and high school drop outs.

Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree.




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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2021 at 3:16pm:
WA Health says 12 of 22 crew members on oil tanker Stolt Sakura positive for COVID-19

Testing has identified 12 positive COVID-19 cases among 22 crew members on oil and chemical tanker the Stolt Sakura, which docked in Fremantle Harbour yesterday.

Three of the crew members are in hospital in Perth, with two in ICU.

The other crew members are quarantining on the ship.

A diplomat from Serbia who flew into Perth on September 29 has also tested positive for COVID-19.

The man, aged in his 30s, flew into the WA capital with his wife and child and all were self-quarantining in an apartment.

The diplomat tested positive for COVID-19 a few days after his arrival.

The family has since been transferred to hotel quarantine.

More to come.

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Delta has arrived.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2021 at 2:25pm:
The two idiot Victorians who snuck in for the Grand Final will have to stay behind bars until October 13.

Their case was heard in a Perth court this morning (by phone link) and it has been adjourned until that date.

I hope it was worth it, guys.

"Prominent Melbourne restaurateur Hayden Burbank, 49, and his 39-year-old financial planner friend Mark Babbage allegedly left Melbourne for Darwin on September 14 then flew to Perth on September 22."




Good, jail is right.

I have been adversely affected by covid and have been careful to do the right thing.
It really irks me when people deliberately breach medical regulations during a pandemic.
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Setanta wrote on Oct 4th, 2021 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2021 at 8:17pm:
Saw some interesting stats today.

The Perth suburbs with the highest vaccination rates are Peppermint Grove and Claremont.

For those form the east, those suburbs are full of highly paid professionals - doctors, judges, surgeons, lawyers, etc.

The suburbs with the lowest vaccination rates are Kwinana, Rockingham, Gosnells, and Armadale.

Again, for those from the east, those suburbs are full of warehouse workers, the unemployed, bikie gang clubhouses, and high school drop outs.

Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree.




Great bit of class warfare there bro! Go the new left!


That's an interesting take on my post, but completely inaccurate.

I'm not attacking any particular class of people here - I'm just pointing out some facts and then offering a solution.

Throughout the world it's become quite clear that adults with a higher level of education are much more likely to get the jab and to believe the vaccine is safe and effective.

And it's not just me saying that.

This, from the US:

"Results from a new USC Dornsife study show that U.S. adults with higher education are significantly more likely to get a COVID-19 vaccination and to believe in the vaccine’s safety and effectiveness."

Education is a bigger factor than race in desire for COVID-19 vaccine

"Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree."

And what did I say?

"Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree."

Nothing to do with warfare - it's about identifying a problem and finding solutions for the future.

It's no coincidence that the people on this forum who are rabid anti-vaxxers are the same people who constantly mock universities and bachelor degrees.

It's no stretch of the imagination to conclude that if more people had been better educated (in general), that the current global COVID death toll would be far less.

The stats from Perth, which I mentioned earlier, only reinforce this conclusion.


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Urging people to educate themselves and their children is not class warfare!
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People with a higher level of education used to get the best jobs that paid the most money

Now they get 2 degrees including a masters an end up working as a barista

And they become very bitter and resentful
About people like my farrier
Who can barely spell his name
But who pulls down half a million dollars a year

In fact it enrages them

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Their intellectual elitism is worthless in the work place
Now that artificial intelligence has taken over
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 5th, 2021 at 8:46am:
People with a higher level of education used to get the best jobs that paid the most money

Now they get 2 degrees including a masters an end up working as a barista



And they get two jabs of vaccine, which is the point I'm making.

The amount of money they make is completely irrelevant.

But, as usual, you rank money above everything else.  Even health.

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Reply #639 - Oct 5th, 2021 at 8:54am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 5th, 2021 at 8:46am:
People with a higher level of education used to get the best jobs that paid the most money

Now they get 2 degrees including a masters an end up working as a barista

And they become very bitter and resentful
About people like my farrier
Who can barely spell his name
But who pulls down half a million dollars a year

In fact it enrages them

And they become balls of hateful spiteful resentful smug intellectual elitism

Their intellectual elitism is worthless in the work place
Now that artificial intelligence has taken over
So they spew out their rage and frustration all over the internet
There are several offender's on this site

Your acid-spitting about education says more about you than you think (or would like).
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It rather does, doesn’t it?
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Another one.

WA on high alert after interstate truck driver tests positive

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WA is on alert after another COVID-19 scare involving an interstate truck driver.

The Health Department has released a list of potential exposure sites after it was notified the driver had returned a positive test result in Victoria on Tuesday — almost a week ago.

The driver, who is in his 20s, was potentially infectious the whole time he was in WA, from September 30 to October 3.

Now in quarantine in a South Australian medi-hotel, the driver was tested at the border between SA and Victoria after he had been in WA.


Wasn't something supposed to have been done months ago to prevent this sort of thing happening? Roll Eyes

And, while I'm here I'd like it put on the record that I am offended (and slightly amused) by the new ads I've seen on free to air TV the past few days from the Australian Government (i.e. Scotty from Marketing) regarding Covid vaccinations.

While I fully agree that everyone needs to be vaccinated as soon as possible (and my elderly aunt and I are fully vaccinated) I don't care for the part where the 'voiceover' person in the ad says "Now that COVID-19 is in our community".

Here's some news for you, Australian Government... it isn't in OUR community in WA (or South Australia, Queensland, Tasmania and the Northern Territory) at the moment and we'd like to keep it that way, thank you very much.
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Perth Man In Crowded Pub Wondering If He’ll Ever Enjoy Freedoms Of Gold Standard NSW

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“Did you hear New South Wales is leading the nation out of COVID?” Ranaford shouted, accidentally spilling beer as he jostled for space in the standing-room-only venue.


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The two idiots from Melbourne who came for the Grand Final got 10 months prison time today.

They only have to serve three though.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:03pm:
The two idiots from Melbourne who came for the Grand Final got 10 months prison time today.

They only have to serve three though.



ten seems excessive, three seems more reasonable

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lol...

Coronavirus crisis: COVID chief Neville Power charged over alleged border breach

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EXCLUSIVE: The man tasked by Prime Minister Scott Morrison to spearhead the country’s post COVID-19 economic task force has been charged with breaching WA’s strict quarantine laws.


Subscriber only article but I'll probably read it in tomorow's paper.

Looks like yet another Scotty from Marketing failure.

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Another subscriber only article from last week but the headline tells the story:

WA hard border: 82 per cent of West Australians back Mark McGowan’s hard border stance

Yep, and I'm one of the 82 per cent.  Smiley
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This is a very sad state of affairs

I'm sure if we polled 5 year olds about whether they wish to face the challenge and adventure of going to school
82% of them they will prefer the safe space of mummies cuddles

But we know that human beings are not built for safety & security
They are built for adventure and challenge

Without adventure and challenge there is no growth
They would become smaller people
More fragile children
More mediocre children

If we expect 5 year olds to face up to the challenge of their humanity

Surely surely surely we must expect adults to set a good example for them

This abdication of your responsibility as a parent or grandparent
To present a resilient strong competence role model for your children and grandchildren

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Alternate link:

Former COVID-19 advisor Neville Power charged with breaching Western Australia's coronavirus restrictions

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The man who spearheaded Australia's post-COVID-19 economic task force has been charged with breaching Western Australia's coronavirus border restrictions during a private helicopter flight from Queensland.

Police alleged Neville Power and a 36-year-old man failed to complete G2G passes before flying into WA on October 9.

Mr Power, 63, was the head of the National COVID-19 Commission Advisory Board and is the former chief executive of Fortescue Metals Group.

He is the current chairman of Perth Airport and the Royal Flying Doctor's Service.

Police alleged that Mr Power and the other man left Queensland on September 8 and flew in the helicopter to Exmouth.

They say the helicopter stopped to refuel in Carnarvon and Geraldton before arriving at Perth's Jandakot Airport on October 9.


Disgraceful is probably the best word to describe this.

Oh, and the usual 'one rule for them and another for the rest of us', of course.
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Reply #649 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:38am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:25am:
This is a very sad state of affairs

I'm sure if we polled 5 year olds about whether they wish to face the challenge and adventure of going to school
82% of them they will prefer the safe space of mummies cuddles

But we know that human beings are not built for safety & security
They are built for adventure and challenge

Without adventure and challenge there is no growth
They would become smaller people
More fragile children
More mediocre children

If we expect 5 year olds to face up to the challenge of their humanity

Surely surely surely we must expect adults to set a good example for them

This abdication of your responsibility as a parent or grandparent
To present a resilient strong competence role model for your children and grandchildren

Is woeful cowardly and pathetic


What is actually pathetic is that one of the many jobs of governments, both Federal and State, is to PROTECT THE POPULATION from all threats, including pandemics.

Something which they are about to criminally disregard (and already have in NSW and Victoria) by caving in to big business and the almighty dollar and allowing Covid to run loose in Australia with the resulting deaths which are predicted to reach about 10 a day.

I keep seeing references to 'Nuremberg 2.0' type trials coming up in the future for all of these politicians (and big business leaders) for allowing this to happen. Bring it on, I say.
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Reply #650 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 6:54am
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 24th, 2021 at 7:04pm:
Another subscriber only article from last week but the headline tells the story:

WA hard border: 82 per cent of West Australians back Mark McGowan’s hard border stance

Yep, and I'm one of the 82 per cent.  Smiley


I'm one of the 82% too.

Well done, Mark.

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Yep, and here's another 'Well done, Mark' initiative:

WA to get Bunnings vaccination clinics as government plans more hubs in Perth suburbs

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West Australians will soon be able to receive COVID-19 vaccinations at some Bunnings stores, as the WA government sets up pop-up clinics across the state.

Premier Mark McGowan said six or seven pop-up clinics would be set up at the hardware stores from the weekend of November 6 and 7.

No bookings will be required at the clinics.


This was also set up in Queensland recently and its a great idea, the more people who get vaccinated and the more places that are available to get it done the better.

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Hi Carl

No place on earth can keep kovid out

You are certifiably insane if you think you can

And for grown men to expect more courage from five year olds then from themselves is woeful

If we expect 5 year olds to voluntarily expose themselves to stress

What sort of mediocre society does not expect that of grown men

And I use the term men loosely
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Reply #655 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 10:10am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Hi Carl

No place on earth can keep kovid out

You are certifiably insane if you think you can

And for grown men to expect more courage from five year olds then from themselves is woeful

If we expect 5 year olds to voluntarily expose themselves to stress

What sort of mediocre society does not expect that of grown men

And I use the term men loosely


Again... no-one has said we can keep Covid out forever.

I'm expecting to see it break loose here in Perth and WA any time now despite Mark McGowan's best efforts to try and protect us.

The 'goal' here is to get everyone vaccinated (or as many people as possible) before we have outbreaks like NSW and Victoria.

Vaccines have always been used until now for preparing a population for pandemics. Not for trying to bring them under control after the outbreaks occur.
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 25th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Hi Carl

No place on earth can keep kovid out



That's correct.

And nobody has said anything to the contrary, which makes me wonder why you keep bringing this up.
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Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

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Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.


Sounds like a REALLY BAD idea to me. Especially since Queensland has reported 2 new cases today.

Hopefully, Mark McGowan will put a stop to this stupid plan before we get a major Covid outbreak here.
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Carl D wrote on Oct 26th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

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Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.


Sounds like a REALLY BAD idea to me. Especially since Queensland has reported 2 new cases today.

Hopefully, Mark McGowan will put a stop to this stupid plan before we get a major Covid outbreak here.


Absolutely nobody should be allowed into WA, from anywhere, unless they are fully vaccinated.


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https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1452563756538494980

This was from yesterday.

'JohnR1507' has helpfully reminded Mr. McGowan today that there are new Covid cases in Queensland.
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Carl D wrote on Oct 26th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

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Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.


Sounds like a REALLY BAD idea to me. Especially since Queensland has reported 2 new cases today.

Hopefully, Mark McGowan will put a stop to this stupid plan before we get a major Covid outbreak here.
they will still need to be vaccinated to enter.
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I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).

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Yeah, I am on tenterhooks—can I enter Tassie, can I re-enter SA? So far, if I drive straight through Victoria stopping only to refuel I can enter Tassie. It may not remain like that.
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Carl D wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 10:36am:
I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).




the people of the eatern states have decided that the mediocre life of the chode is not worth living.
they prefer human flourishing to "lingering'
they prefer thriving to "surviving"

WA is now out of step with the entire planet.

how cowardly
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
Carl D wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 10:36am:
I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).




the people of the eatern states have decided that the mediocre life of the chode is not worth living.
they prefer human flourishing to "lingering'
they prefer thriving to "surviving"

WA is now out of step with the entire planet.

how cowardly



Lol   Grin

We have no restrictions, and have only had a few days lockdown since the pandemic began.

Life is normal here, and has been for a very long time.

You're so out of touch with reality, it's not even funny anymore.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
Carl D wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 10:36am:
I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).




the people of the eatern states have decided that the mediocre life of the chode is not worth living.
they prefer human flourishing to "lingering'
they prefer thriving to "surviving"

WA is now out of step with the entire planet.

how cowardly



Lol   Grin

We have no restrictions, and have only had a few days lockdown since the pandemic began.

Life is normal here, and has been for a very long time.

You're so out of touch with reality, it's not even funny anymore.




the marathon must be run.

every other place on earth has recognised this.

gweggy and carl are still in bed , congratulating themselves on their level of personal comfort , ignoring the fact that the brutal journey is still in front of them.

they definitely were fed their desert before their meat and veges as children
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
Carl D wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 10:36am:
I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).




the people of the eatern states have decided that the mediocre life of the chode is not worth living.
they prefer human flourishing to "lingering'
they prefer thriving to "surviving"

WA is now out of step with the entire planet.

how cowardly



Lol   Grin

We have no restrictions, and have only had a few days lockdown since the pandemic began.

Life is normal here, and has been for a very long time.

You're so out of touch with reality, it's not even funny anymore.




the marathon must be run.

every other place on earth has recognised this.

gweggy and carl are still in bed , ...



Again, we are not in lockdown, and we have no restrictions.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Throughout this pandemic, WA has been the best place in the world to live.

Life is completely normal here.

What part of this don't you understand?
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again,

you and everyone else in WA is going to catch covid,
possibly repeatedly,
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

recognising that all that can be done, has now been done, WA should join the rest of australia in living with covid.

why try to keep it out?
what benefit is that to WA?
your immunity is waning every day.

you want it circulating as a matter of urgnecy to keep priming your immune system

WA citizens will be more likely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish
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Reply #668 - Oct 27th, 2021 at 4:03pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
again,

you and everyone else in WA is going to catch covid,
possibly repeatedly,
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

recognising that all that can be done, has now been done, WA should join the rest of australia in living with covid.

why try to keep it out?
what benefit is that to WA?
your immunity is waning every day.

you want it circulating as a matter of urgnecy to keep priming your immune system

WA citizens will be more likely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish

Everyone is going to catch it eh? Do you have a timespan to go with that?

I'd bet you've never had the flu, let alone smallpox, cholera or polio.

So far about 175,000 Australians have contracted covid.
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ely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish
what a load of fabricated bollocks.
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:08pm:
they definitely were fed their desert before their meat and veges as children


Did it come in a sandwich?

(Sits back and watches that one zoom right over the top of his head)

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Reply #671 - Oct 27th, 2021 at 4:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them


Didn't you tell us a while back that you were prepared get the Covid vaccine 100 times live on TV?

Well, we're still waiting... better hurry up and arrange it before more doses end up being thrown in the bin.

Be sure to let us know the date, time and channel in advance. I wouldn't miss it for the world.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
again,

you and everyone else in WA is going to catch covid,
possibly repeatedly,
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

recognising that all that can be done, has now been done, WA should join the rest of australia in living with covid.

why try to keep it out?
what benefit is that to WA?
your immunity is waning every day.

you want it circulating as a matter of urgnecy to keep priming your immune system

WA citizens will be more likely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish

Everyone is going to catch it eh? Do you have a timespan to go with that?

I'd bet you've never had the flu, let alone smallpox, cholera or polio.

So far about 175,000 Australians have contracted covid.


well my friend, england is recording 50,000 cases a day, mainly in vaxxed people, not sick , but the virus is going to become an endemic nasal virus.

vaccines dont work to stop the nasal colonisation because that relies on a different antibody

Ig A from memory

so unless they come up with a nasal spray vaccine, you will be exposed to covid over and over.

WA gains nothing by waiting.

each day, their vaxxed population loses a little bit of immunity.

very foolish stuff
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 5:43pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 4:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 3:49pm:
again,

you and everyone else in WA is going to catch covid,
possibly repeatedly,
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

recognising that all that can be done, has now been done, WA should join the rest of australia in living with covid.

why try to keep it out?
what benefit is that to WA?
your immunity is waning every day.

you want it circulating as a matter of urgnecy to keep priming your immune system

WA citizens will be more likely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish

Everyone is going to catch it eh? Do you have a timespan to go with that?

I'd bet you've never had the flu, let alone smallpox, cholera or polio.

So far about 175,000 Australians have contracted covid.


well my friend, england is recording 50,000 cases a day, mainly in vaxxed people, not sick , but the virus is going to become an endemic nasal virus.

vaccines dont work to stop the nasal colonisation because that relies on a different antibody

Ig A from memory

so unless they come up with a nasal spray vaccine, you will be exposed to covid over and over.

WA gains nothing by waiting.

each day, their vaxxed population loses a little bit of immunity.

very foolish stuff

Are there many Scoots? Are you Legion? Aqua Scoot, Boot scoot, Coot Scoot, Delta Scoot...

One post you tell us the Poms' covid number are up because they're fat lazy bastards with a bad diet. Now they're the omen of things to come... Do you think we're all watching the tele while hoeing down on deep fried Mars bars?


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WA gains nothing by waiting.

each day, their vaxxed population loses a little bit of immunity.

very foolish stuff
lol, look at this idiot.
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. Do you think we're all watching the tele while hoeing down on deep fried Mars bars?



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everyones numbers are up.

its just the poms foolishly keep testing.

most countries wont bother

why would they?

once people are vaxxed, who cares.

its a meaningless statistic .

all the vaxxed people will have covid up their nose.

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The ideal thing to do is get everyone vaxxed really fast, then open up.
This article explains why. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-21/covid-vaccine-peak-protection-period-miis...
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The ideal thing to do is get everyone vaxxed really fast, then open up.
This article explains why. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-21/covid-vaccine-peak-protection-period-miis...

Yep. why would you take the risk in WA right now because WA is actually carrying the country economically. Look what happened in Brazil, it closed the mining industry., if that happens in WA we are all stuffed, thats just the facts. 98 percent vax rates is the figure we should be aiming for though before opening up in my opinion and I think Mcgowan is onto it, he has obviously listened to the noble knowledgable  Rhino and his advice.
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Gordon wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 8:13pm:
The ideal thing to do is get everyone vaxxed really fast, then open up.
This article explains why. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-21/covid-vaccine-peak-protection-period-miis...

Yep. why would you take the risk in WA right now because WA is actually carrying the country economically. Look what happened in Brazil, it closed the mining industry., if that happens in WA we are all stuffed, thats just the facts. 98 percent vax rates is the figure we should be aiming for though before opening up in my opinion and I think Mcgowan is onto it, he has obviously listened to the noble knowledgable  Rhino and his advice.



lol

iron ore price has halved.

and if you bothered to read gordons excellent link to the ABC no less

it points out the foolishness of waiting to allow in the virus as you miss out on peak protection.

aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.


has mcgowan mentioned vitamin D yet?
if not , why not
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Flight Centre threatens to sue Mark McGowan if he refuses to open the borders when Western Australia hits 80 per cent vaccination

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Flight Centre claims it will sue the WA Government if domestic and international borders don't reopen when the state hits 70 to 80 per cent vaccination rates. 

Chief executive Graham Turner said he thought he would have a 'good chance' of winning a legal challenge if borders weren't opened.


Two words - and they start with F and O.

I'm hoping it'll be a cold day in hell before the CEO of Flight Centre (or any other company) dictates to a State government about how they handle Covid and keep people safe.

How many Covid deaths and hospitalisations does Graham consider acceptable so Flight Centre can go back to making money? Perhaps he can team up with Jayne from Virgin and come up with a number? (Hint: anything other than zero is the wrong answer).

Someone should also have a word in Graham's ear and remind him that anyone with half a brain and Internet access can book their own interstate and overseas holidays and trips without paying a huge fee to Flight Centre (or any other agents).

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aquascoot wrote on Oct 28th, 2021 at 5:24am:
aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.



Grin Grin Grin

So much 'common sense' (and fun) that there's even a game for it now... I hear a lot of the 'selfish, expendable oldies' are playing it and having a good laugh at your expense.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 10:16am:
Flight Centre threatens to sue Mark McGowan if he refuses to open the borders when Western Australia hits 80 per cent vaccination

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Flight Centre claims it will sue the WA Government if domestic and international borders don't reopen when the state hits 70 to 80 per cent vaccination rates. 

Chief executive Graham Turner said he thought he would have a 'good chance' of winning a legal challenge if borders weren't opened.


Two words - and they start with F and O.

I'm hoping it'll be a cold day in hell before the CEO of Flight Centre (or any other company) dictates to a State government about how they handle Covid and keep people safe.

How many Covid deaths and hospitalisations does Graham consider acceptable so Flight Centre can go back to making money? Perhaps he can team up with Jayne from Virgin and come up with a number? (Hint: anything other than zero is the wrong answer).

Someone should also have a word in Graham's ear and remind him that anyone with half a brain and Internet access can book their own interstate and overseas holidays and trips without paying a huge fee to Flight Centre (or any other agents).



Who the hell uses Flight Centre anyway?   Undecided
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Who the hell uses Flight Centre anyway?   Undecided


No-one that I know.

A lot of them have closed down here in Perth (and probably Australia wide) since the start of the pandemic. The one in Belmont Forum (near Aldi) is still open (or has reopened) but it doesn't seem particularly busy when I've been up there lately.
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Belmont Forum Flight Centre still wasn't busy when I was up there just after 11am today. I counted one customer which is one more than I usually see.

And, perhaps Graham should consider updating the company's 'logo'? The Concorde hasn't flown since 2003.


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those poor flight centre workers.

probably have mortgages and kids

and selfish old chodes have demolished their lives

how ugly
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 4:29pm:
those poor flight centre workers.

probably have mortgages and kids

and selfish old chodes have demolished their lives

how ugly


Indeed.

But, as Scotty from Marketing keeps telling us (especially the unemployed)... there's plenty of jobs out there if you look for them.

Don't forget his words of wisdom: "If you have a go, you'll get a go".
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Carl D wrote on Nov 4th, 2021 at 3:12pm:
Belmont Forum Flight Centre still wasn't busy when I was up there just after 11am today. I counted one customer which is one more than I usually see.

And, perhaps Graham should consider updating the company's 'logo'? The Concorde hasn't flown since 2003.




I know a couple of people who worked for Flight Centre.

Terrible employer, apparently.

I dealt with them once, for a European trip, and they would answer my emails straight away whenever I asked a question.

That is, until I paid - after that they never replied again.

I've been told that once they receive payment, you are effectively put on an ignore list.

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aquascoot wrote on Oct 28th, 2021 at 5:24am:
rhino wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 8:45pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 27th, 2021 at 8:13pm:
The ideal thing to do is get everyone vaxxed really fast, then open up.
This article explains why. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-21/covid-vaccine-peak-protection-period-miis...

Yep. why would you take the risk in WA right now because WA is actually carrying the country economically. Look what happened in Brazil, it closed the mining industry., if that happens in WA we are all stuffed, thats just the facts. 98 percent vax rates is the figure we should be aiming for though before opening up in my opinion and I think Mcgowan is onto it, he has obviously listened to the noble knowledgable  Rhino and his advice.



lol

iron ore price has halved.
yes it has, down to around 110 a tonne. Only $55 a tonne more than they allowed for in the budget. Lol. You do it to yourself  every time.

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and if you bothered to read gordons excellent link to the ABC no less

it points out the foolishness of waiting to allow in the virus as you miss out on peak protection.

aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.


has mcgowan mentioned vitamin D yet?
if not , why not
yes, yes, we are all doomed, how many times you said that now? Ever been right about anything?  Grin
I think I will go on your track record of zero out of 10,000.  Grin
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yes, yes, we are all doomed, how many times you said that now? Ever been right about anything?  Grin
I think I will go on your track record of zero out of 10,000.  Grin

It's the Cassandra complex...

Predict a disaster every year and just one time you might jag one... And then hype yourself as a visionary!
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I'm surprised anyone is still using them after this happened last year:

Airlines cancel - Flight Centre still charge $350 (Whirlpool Forums - long thread).

People must have short memories.

Wonder if they're still doing it or have started doing it again because I've recently read that some (or all?) of the airlines have now pulled out this 'trick':

Airlines are apparently advertising and allowing people to book flights then the flights are being cancelled at the last minute so the airlines don't lose their 'slots' at airports.. I'm assuming the people booked for the flights are offered a later flight or a refund if they decide to cancel the trip (perhaps minus a $350 fee?).

Well, I suppose if the airlines are now using this 'trick' at least its a lot less fuel wastage and less pollution/noise than what they were doing last year - flying empty or almost empty planes on their regular routes so they wouldn't lose their 'slots' (although I wouldn't be surprised if that still happens as well).

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Premier reveals WA plan for border to re-open to domestic and international travellers

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Western Australia will reopen to domestic and international travellers when the State hits a 90 per cent vaccination milestone — likely in late January or early February.

The exact transition date — which will also trigger the reintroduction of some restrictions — will be announced when WA hits the 80 per cent double dose mark for everyone aged 12 and above.

The decision is based on new Health Department modelling showing that almost 200 fewer West Australians would die with COVID-19 if the border reopens at 90 per cent vaccination instead of 80 per cent.


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Once the reopening date is set — likely in early December — it will be “locked in,” Mr McGowan said.


I wouldn't be locking anything in at this stage, Mark. Wait and see what happens with the rest of Australia first because I'm expecting most of Australia to be in lockdown again by Christmas.

And, definitely keep a sharp eye out for any 'fiddling of numbers' like what's (allegedly) been happening with hospital cases in Victoria.

‘Not sustainable’: Dozens of COVID-19 patients missing from ICU figures

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Dozens of COVID-19 patients in Victoria’s intensive care units are missing from official figures, as the state’s health department fails to publicly report those who are lingering in hospital, including some of the most gravely ill.

The revelation indicates the pressure on Victoria’s strained hospital system is significantly worse than previously thought and discredits widely reported government statistics that suggested ICU admissions due to COVID-19 cases have been slowly falling since mid-October from a high of 163.


I'm expecting to see a lot more of that in the coming months.

Oh, and...

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The modelling estimates 313 COVID patients would die in the first year after an outbreak at a vaccination rate of 80 per cent, compared to 117 deaths at 90 per cent. Case numbers would hit 104,000 and 43,000 respectively at the two different vaccination rates.


Does anyone else besides me find that completely unacceptable? Big business and people like aquascoot won't care, of course.
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And, while (almost) everyone is getting excited about everything opening up here in Australia we have this:

Posted 3h ago

Europe's COVID-19 surge a 'grave concern' says WHO, as hospitalisations double in one week

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The World Health Organization (WHO) has warned 500,000 people could die of COVID-19 in Europe and Central Asia in the next three months, as virus transmission rates surge across the region.


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WHO Europe director Hans Kluge said Europe was back at the "epicentre" of the pandemic, facing a resurgence of cases, hospitalisations and deaths.

Case numbers were beginning to near-record levels again and the pace of transmission in the region was of "grave concern", he said.

"Over the past four weeks, Europe has seen a greater than 55 per cent increase in new COVID-19 cases," Dr Kluge said.


But, never mind... 'no wucking furries' is the prevailing attitude here in the Land of Oz (at least until the s*it hits the fan before too much longer).
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Carl D wrote on Nov 5th, 2021 at 1:44pm:
Oh, and...

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The modelling estimates 313 COVID patients would die in the first year after an outbreak at a vaccination rate of 80 per cent, compared to 117 deaths at 90 per cent. Case numbers would hit 104,000 and 43,000 respectively at the two different vaccination rates.


Does anyone else besides me find that completely unacceptable? Big business and people like aquascoot won't care, of course.



No, it's  just you.

In 2019, there were 902 flu deaths in Australia. In 2017, 1181 deaths.


https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over...
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Geez I'm getting sick of repeating myself here but the reason why all of those flu deaths were virtually ignored for so long was because the population had been 'conditioned' over the years and decades to accept those deaths as 'normal' and that nothing could be done about it. Which suited big business (airlines airports, tourism, etc.) and governments just fine because to do something about it costs money.

Now they want to do the same with Covid and slowly 'condition' people to accept a certain number of deaths every year. All for the sake of the almighty dollar.

But, if Covid has taught us one thing (or should have) its that something can (and should have in the past) been done about stopping or reducing all these yearly flu deaths and its now up to everyone to demand that something be done about it from here onwards.

And, while I'm here... for a State like Western Australia which has only had 1112 Covid cases and 9 deaths (all as a result of overseas/interstate cases coming here) since the start of the pandemic I would expect at the very least for the State government to hold a referendum on the subject of reopening everything and then having up to 313 deaths a year (on top of more flu deaths, of course) which are entirely preventable at this stage but we all know that will never happen.

(A recent survey revealed that over 80% of people here want the 'hard border' to remain).

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Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do -  to protect you.


Pathetic. What happened to your sense of agency and self-determination? You have, are,  the worst of all words - no greater principle you defer to, no personal strength to be a self-determining individual at your own reckoning.


You are an example of the 'do not ask what I can do for my country or myself, I am demanding to know what my country and everyone else can do FOR ME!!!!"

Pathetic and a little repulsive.  Like a worm.i
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Frank wrote on Nov 5th, 2021 at 8:03pm:
Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do -  to protect you.


Grin Grin Grin

lol... I couldn't give a flying fig about governments... Federal and State, Liberal or Labor.

I know exactly what I'd like to see happen to the lot of them but it isn't suitable for posting on a 'family forum'.

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Carl D wrote on Nov 5th, 2021 at 8:39pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 5th, 2021 at 8:03pm:
Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do -  to protect you.


Grin Grin Grin

lol... I couldn't give a flying fig about governments... Federal and State, Liberal or Labor.

I know exactly what I'd like to see happen to the lot of them but it isn't suitable for posting on a 'family forum'.

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good stuff.

tell the premier to go away and let people get on with

1  human flourishing

2  personal responsibility.

carl, you cant seriously say "i dont give a rats about the bedwetting premier keeping the border closed".
you cheer on his lunacy on a daily basis.

you need an extended holiday in" small government" florida or sweden to come to your senses
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As I said... I couldn't care less about ANY politician... Labor or Liberal.

What I do care about is the fact that Perth and Western Australia is living a 'Covid Free' lifestyle at the moment and has been for 99& of the time since the start of the pandemic.

Right now we have no masks and virtually no restrictions whatsoever. OK, I know we're still supposed to be social distancing and checking in with our SafeWA app or pen and paper when entering shops and other premises but a lot of people don't bother anymore (if they even did to start with) and no-one checks to see that people comply.

And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
As I said... I couldn't care less about ANY politician... Labor or Liberal.

What I do care about is the fact that Perth and Western Australia is living a 'Covid Free' lifestyle at the moment and has been for 99& of the time since the start of the pandemic.

Right now we have no masks and virtually no restrictions whatsoever. OK, I know we're still supposed to be social distancing and checking in with our SafeWA app or pen and paper when entering shops and other premises but a lot of people don't bother anymore (if they even did to start with) and no-one checks to see that people comply.

And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.


Great post.

Nailed it.

Those from the east can't seem to get their heads around how good life has been here since March 2020.

Keep up the good work, Mr Premier.

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Carl D wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

I'm betting mask-wearing will be mandatory in Australia on and off over the next year, or at least until a large percentage of a state's population's pathogen response eases (which will only happen if state hospitals are not overloaded) and (the big 'and') senior politicians do not see there being any further political capital in continuing the mandate.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

I'm betting mask-wearing will be mandatory in Australia on and off over the next year, or at least until a large percentage of a state's population's pathogen response eases (which will only happen if state hospitals are not overloaded) and (the big 'and') senior politicians do not see there being any further political capital in continuing the mandate.


I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

I'm betting mask-wearing will be mandatory in Australia on and off over the next year, or at least until a large percentage of a state's population's pathogen response eases (which will only happen if state hospitals are not overloaded) and (the big 'and') senior politicians do not see there being any further political capital in continuing the mandate.


I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.


Politicians have invested too much of their political capital in states that have kept covid in low numbers, to throw political caution to the wind.

The same would be true of New Zealand, which appears to have kept the covid death rate exceptionally low.

The dice premiers will be rolling for, will be their lasting political legacy as the 'saviours of the people'.
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WA the hermit state of the world,, baaa baaa baaa
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baaa baaa baaa

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As I said... I couldn't care less about ANY politician... Labor or Liberal.

What I do care about is the fact that Perth and Western Australia is living a 'Covid Free' lifestyle at the moment and has been for 99& of the time since the start of the pandemic.

Right now we have no masks and virtually no restrictions whatsoever. OK, I know we're still supposed to be social distancing and checking in with our SafeWA app or pen and paper when entering shops and other premises but a lot of people don't bother anymore (if they even did to start with) and no-one checks to see that people comply.

And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.


What is it with you mongs in WA - Bbwian, turd, you, phillperf etc?   Who is keeping your borders closed, who is giving the health orders that YOU SUPPORT??  Politicians. Politicians tou do not care about, only support.  You guys are weird, stupid. 





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Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:34pm:
baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 8:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:34pm:
baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?
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Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 8:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:34pm:
baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?

They are both in control of hermit kingdoms, the difference being in WA they don't have to eat grass because they have our iron ore to sustain Kim Jong McGowan's political agenda.

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Johnnie wrote on Nov 7th, 2021 at 9:25am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 7th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 8:56pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 8:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:34pm:
baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?

They are both in control of hermit kingdoms, the difference being in WA they don't have to eat grass because they have our iron ore to sustain Kim Jong McGowan's political agenda.


The cartoon is satirical and not intended to be factual.

Western Australia is not a kingdom.

The Kim family sealed North Korea off from the world to establish and sustain a tyrannical and murderous regime.

Given the McGowan government (as with the New Zealand government), likely by fluke and isolation, achieved an almost zero-covid status, it's hard to imagine any government of the day not wanting to defend that record.
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The West Australians will be allowed out of their paddock sometime later next year so says their shepherd Mark.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.


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Johnnie wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 2:38am:
The West Australians will be allowed out of their paddock sometime later next year so says their shepherd Mark.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.




Why would we want to leave our paddock?   Undecided

We have no restrictions, and no COVID.

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Reply #713 - Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am
 
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.
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Reply #714 - Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:23am
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.
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Reply #715 - Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:27am
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


Are you OK there Carl, alone with roast lamb for xmas again.

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Reply #716 - Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:21pm
 
Morrison says McGowan doing 'more harm than good' in border closure plan (might need to scroll up a bit... stupid link).

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Now he is being asked about Western Australia’s commitment not to open the border until 90% of the state’s over-12 population is fully vaccinated.

Morrison says WA premier Mark McGowan will be doing “more harm than good”.

The modelling done by the Doherty Institute makes it very clear – and that’s what was agreed in the national plan, not just once but twice – and that is once you hit 80% double-dose vaccination rates, then you’re able to move forward...

Of course, there’s a big difference between 70 and 80%. When you look at the curve of the pandemic, once you hit 80% – whether it’s a low number of cases you’re going into, like would be the case in Western Australia, or a high number of cases like we’ve seen in New South Wales and Victoria – once you hit that 80% threshold, there is a scientifically-backed in position which says that you can take the next step.

And the advice we have from the secretary of Treasury, from Dr Kennedy, is once you go over 80% and you keep things locked down, you are doing more harm than good to your economy.

You’re actually putting a price on Australians when you continue to put heavy restrictions on your economy, once you hit 80% vaccination rates.


The only harm being done is to Scotty from Marketing's re-election chances at the upcoming Federal Election.

I (and most of WA, I'm sure) would like to see more of that.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:37pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

I'm betting mask-wearing will be mandatory in Australia on and off over the next year, or at least until a large percentage of a state's population's pathogen response eases (which will only happen if state hospitals are not overloaded) and (the big 'and') senior politicians do not see there being any further political capital in continuing the mandate.


I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.

Thats right. You yourself have to catch public transport, some of us have a choice.
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Reply #718 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 6:09am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:23am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.




No covod no restrictions and no prospect of economic growth

Trade is absolutely essential for economic growth

And the Australian economy is becoming increasingly reliant on tourism educational services
Skilled immigration in order to have a functional economy

Carl and Gregory think that you can have 100 guys dig up some iron ore
And then 1 million parasites in Perth whose function in the economy is to be consumers

That has 0 prospect of working
It will work in the short term for the selfish entitlement of Gregory and Carl
And it will work in the short term for the bedwetting Premier
But where is the job prospects for our most precious generation
The young people of western Australia
Who are orders of magnitude more precious than the lingering fossils

Without a functional economy very very few of them have a functional future
And without a functional economy there will be no public health system to pander to the bed wedding Gregory and Carl

They would appear to be shooting themselves with a self inflicted wound
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Sounds like its about time for Western Australia to finally secede from the rest of the country, eh, aqua?

Cool
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Carl D wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 6:37am:
Sounds like its about time for Western Australia to finally secede from the rest of the country, eh, aqua?

Cool



Tell me Karl do you think there are any young people in western Australia who might like to travel
Who have higher aspirations for their life then sitting on the sofa in their bubble of safety

It's not all about you and Greg
Thinking only of oneself is the definition of selfishness
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Reply #721 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 8:35am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 6:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:23am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.




No covod no restrictions and no prospect of economic growth

Trade is absolutely essential for economic growth

And the Australian economy is becoming increasingly reliant on tourism educational services
Skilled immigration in order to have a functional economy

Carl and Gregory think that you can have 100 guys dig up some iron ore
And then 1 million parasites in Perth whose function in the economy is to be consumers

That has 0 prospect of working
It will work in the short term for the selfish entitlement of Gregory and Carl
And it will work in the short term for the bedwetting Premier
But where is the job prospects for our most precious generation
The young people of western Australia
Who are orders of magnitude more precious than the lingering fossils

Without a functional economy very very few of them have a functional future
And without a functional economy there will be no public health system to pander to the bed wedding Gregory and Carl

They would appear to be shooting themselves with a self inflicted wound


The times they are a-changin', old man.

WA is doing just fine, and we'll be doing just fine in the future.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions - life is good  Smiley

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Reply #722 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 9:33am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 8:27am:
Tell me Karl do you think there are any young people in western Australia who might like to travel
Who have higher aspirations for their life then sitting on the sofa in their bubble of safety

It's not all about you and Greg
Thinking only of oneself is the definition of selfishness


Young people can travel as much as they like, I couldn't care less. As long as they don't bring Covid back with them or start complaining when they have to quarantine if borders suddenly slam shut while they're travelling (I'm predicting all of this quarantine free travel that's starting up right now won't last past Christmas when I'm still predicting most of Australia will be back in lockdown).

Assuming the Federal and State governments don't start lying about the number of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths, of course. They wouldn't do that now, would they?

As far as selfishness goes... yep, we've seen a lot of that since the start of the pandemic with people walking out of hotel and home quarantine, lying on border passes to get where "they" want to go and stuff everyone else, fleeing the major cities to regional areas in the time available before lockdowns commenced, refusing to social distance, sanitise hands and check into venues with phone apps or pen and paper, etc., etc.

Now THAT'S the definition of selfishness. Especially when people may die as a result of their selfishness.
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Reply #723 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 9:50am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:23am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.

Really??

What's this, then?

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-busin...

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-regional-travel

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-health

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-what-you-can-and-cant-do
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Reply #724 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:08am
 
Can't see where any of that has any effect on people going about their daily lives here?

For example, later this morning I'm planning on walking (weather permitting) to 3 or 4 different business premises (including Belmont Forum shopping centre) within about a kilometer radius of where I live and the only "restriction" I have is that I have to sign in with our SafeWA app (or pen and paper) at each of them.

And, as I've said before, I see many many people not even bothering to do that in my daily travels.

I'm planning on going to a local restaurant with family and friends in a couple of weeks time... once again, all we have to do is sign in with the app or pen and paper.

No masks, no Covid... just the way over 80& of us like it and we want it to remain that way.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:08am:
Can't see where any of that has any effect on people going about their daily lives here?

For example, later this morning I'm planning on walking (weather permitting) to 3 or 4 different business premises (including Belmont Forum shopping centre) within about a kilometer radius of where I live and the only "restriction" I have is that I have to sign in with our SafeWA app (or pen and paper) at each of them.

And, as I've said before, I see many many people not even bothering to do that in my daily travels.

I'm planning on going to a local restaurant with family and friends in a couple of weeks time... once again, all we have to do is sign in with the app or pen and paper.

No masks, no Covid... just the way over 80& of us like it and we want it to remain that way.



Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

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Reply #726 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:25am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:10am:
Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Hopeless and mediocre


Yes, I agree. So I'll just repeat this in case anyone missed it.

Carl D wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 9:33am:
As far as selfishness goes... yep, we've seen a lot of that since the start of the pandemic with people walking out of hotel and home quarantine, lying on border passes to get where "they" want to go and stuff everyone else, fleeing the major cities to regional areas in the time available before lockdowns commenced, refusing to social distance, sanitise hands and check into venues with phone apps or pen and paper, etc., etc.

Now THAT'S the definition of selfishness. Especially when people may die as a result of their selfishness.

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Reply #727 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:47am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 10:10am:
Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Hopeless and mediocre


But, if in fact you're not referring to the selfish 'groups' I've mentioned in my earlier post then that should really be

us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us

Over 80% of us according to a recent survey. You know - the 80%+ that would like WA to stay Covid free for as long as possible and not have all the hospitalisations and deaths like they're having over east.

Another 10 Covid deaths in Victoria yesterday (which is 1 more in a single day than WA has had for the ENTIRE PANDEMIC so far) and 4 in NSW in case you haven't been keeping up.
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Don't worry Carl you will live forever
A living treasure
Our most precious generation

You should ask your Premier to pass legislation outlawing death in the state of western Australia
Anyone found dying should be fined $2,000
It is unacceptable behaviour
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More selfishness (and stupidity):

'I want that nurse': How suspicion was raised at Perth clinic over alleged fake coronavirus vaccine injection

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The Perth nurse allegedly caught giving a teenager a fake coronavirus injection may have put an unknown number of lives at risk, the Australian Medical Association (AMA) has warned.
"It almost is unbelievable," AMA President Dr Omar Khorshid said, describing the arrest of 51-year-old Christina Hartmann Benz after a "vigilant" doctor at a private Perth medical clinic allegedly watched her put a needle into a teen's arm but not inject the liquid.
"Not only is it potentially illegal, almost certainly unprofessional, but it's also putting the lives of those individuals who've availed themselves of her service actually at risk."


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Eyebrows were raised, Dr Khorshid told Today, when an unusual number of people allegedly began booking their vaccine jabs specifically with Ms Hartmann Benz at the Victoria Park Respiratory Clinic.
"There were suspicions within the practice that something wasn't quite right," he said.
"You wouldn't expect large numbers to be coming and saying 'I want that nurse.'
"That's very unusual."


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During Ms Hartmann Benz's vaccine appointments, the door had allegedly always been closed while giving injections.
Dr Khorshid said a "very vigilant" doctor had done "the right thing" and observed Ms Hartmann Benz allegedly stick the needle into a 15-year-old's arm but not inject the vaccine.
The syringe was then allegedly disposed of, still containing a full dose.


Can't see it mentioned but I hope all of those people who booked the appointments to *not* get vaccinated get charged as well seeing as its fairly obvious they all 'conspired' to do this. Probably antivaxxers who wanted to make it look like they were vaccinated so they wouldn't be locked out of pubs and clubs, etc. when restrictions are eventually introduced here for the unvaccinated.

Wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them were also using fake SafeWA apps or wrote false names and numbers with the pen and paper option (that's if if they even bothered to make it look like they were checking in at shops and other premises which I doubt).

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Carl D wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 11:42am:
More selfishness (and stupidity):

'I want that nurse': How suspicion was raised at Perth clinic over alleged fake coronavirus vaccine injection

Quote:
The Perth nurse allegedly caught giving a teenager a fake coronavirus injection may have put an unknown number of lives at risk, the Australian Medical Association (AMA) has warned.
"It almost is unbelievable," AMA President Dr Omar Khorshid said, describing the arrest of 51-year-old Christina Hartmann Benz after a "vigilant" doctor at a private Perth medical clinic allegedly watched her put a needle into a teen's arm but not inject the liquid.
"Not only is it potentially illegal, almost certainly unprofessional, but it's also putting the lives of those individuals who've availed themselves of her service actually at risk."


Quote:
Eyebrows were raised, Dr Khorshid told Today, when an unusual number of people allegedly began booking their vaccine jabs specifically with Ms Hartmann Benz at the Victoria Park Respiratory Clinic.
"There were suspicions within the practice that something wasn't quite right," he said.
"You wouldn't expect large numbers to be coming and saying 'I want that nurse.'
"That's very unusual."


Quote:
During Ms Hartmann Benz's vaccine appointments, the door had allegedly always been closed while giving injections.
Dr Khorshid said a "very vigilant" doctor had done "the right thing" and observed Ms Hartmann Benz allegedly stick the needle into a 15-year-old's arm but not inject the vaccine.
The syringe was then allegedly disposed of, still containing a full dose.


Can't see it mentioned but I hope all of those people who booked the appointments to *not* get vaccinated get charged as well seeing as its fairly obvious they all 'conspired' to do this. Probably antivaxxers who wanted to make it look like they were vaccinated so they wouldn't be locked out of pubs and clubs, etc. when restrictions are eventually introduced here for the unvaccinated.

Wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them were also using fake SafeWA apps or wrote false names and numbers with the pen and paper option (that's if if they even bothered to make it look like they were checking in at shops and other premises which I doubt).



That clinic is next to Aldi, in East Victoria Park (opposite Bunnings).

I was gonna get my jabs there, but decided to go elsewhere.

Glad I did now.

These anti-vaxxers are crazy.

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Reply #731 - Nov 9th, 2021 at 7:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 8:35am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 9th, 2021 at 6:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 11:23am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 10:43am:
Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.


I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.




No covod no restrictions and no prospect of economic growth

Trade is absolutely essential for economic growth

And the Australian economy is becoming increasingly reliant on tourism educational services
Skilled immigration in order to have a functional economy

Carl and Gregory think that you can have 100 guys dig up some iron ore
And then 1 million parasites in Perth whose function in the economy is to be consumers

That has 0 prospect of working
It will work in the short term for the selfish entitlement of Gregory and Carl
And it will work in the short term for the bedwetting Premier
But where is the job prospects for our most precious generation
The young people of western Australia
Who are orders of magnitude more precious than the lingering fossils

Without a functional economy very very few of them have a functional future
And without a functional economy there will be no public health system to pander to the bed wedding Gregory and Carl

They would appear to be shooting themselves with a self inflicted wound


The times they are a-changin', old man.

WA is doing just fine, and we'll be doing just fine in the future.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions - life is good  Smiley



Oh, and no daylight savings.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions, and no daylight savings - life is good  Smiley
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Reply #732 - Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:40am
 
Actually, I don't believe the antivaxxers are the only ones not wanting to get vaccinated.

I'm betting a lot of people with no plans to travel and with no family interstate or overseas won't be getting vaccinated because they believe the WA 'hard border' won't come down if the State doesn't reach 90% fully vaccinated which is what Mark McGowan has stipulated.

Can't blame them really... we've enjoyed an almost Covid free lifestyle since the start of the pandemic and they no doubt want it to stay that way. Most of us do, especially elderly people or people with elderly parents and relatives who are most at risk from Covid... vaccinated or not.

And who wants to start wearing masks in summer? Especially with some of the scorchers we have here in Perth.

It depends on how much pressure is put on Mark McGowan by Scotty from Marketing and big business and if he 'caves in' like the other States have done. ScoMo is already upset about Mark McGowan not wanting to open WA up until we reach 90& vaccination and wants 80% like the rest of the country has done/is doing.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 11:40am:
I'm betting a lot of people with no plans to travel and with no family interstate or overseas won't be getting vaccinated because they believe the WA 'hard border' won't come down if the State doesn't reach 90% fully vaccinated which is what Mark McGowan has stipulated.

The problem with that strategy is that the state will become hyper-focussed on the remaining few percent, as the hard border cannot and will not remain in force due to the recalcitrance of an ultimately tiny minority (given the reason for the remaining few percent of holdouts likely owes more to procrastination than ideology).

And, because of the almost complete success in managing to keep covid out, or at very low numbers, I'm sure state government senior politicians will not entertain a last-minute U-turn.

There will likely be increasingly harsh restrictions of movement/access to public facilities for the unvaccinated, until most of the remaining relent out of exhaustion.
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Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

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Western Australia’s borders could open to the rest of the country in the first few weeks of 2022, significantly earlier than planned.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt flagged the change during a television appearance on Sunday morning.

“We’d like to see Western Australia open as soon as possible,” he told ABC’s Insiders host David Speers.

“We are hearing that they are considering bringing that forward to at least, well, coincidentally, to time with the cricket.”


Yes, indeed... what a coincidence. Roll Eyes

So, the question that now needs to be asked is: how many Perth and WA hospitalisations and deaths are acceptable for a game of cricket?

Especially since the players will be coming straight here from Sydney and only needing to have a 5 day quarantine before playing the fifth test here in Perth.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of people are not happy about this and I don't blame them.

$$$ ahead of peoples' lives again. Damn hypocrites.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:22am:
Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

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Western Australia’s borders could open to the rest of the country in the first few weeks of 2022, significantly earlier than planned.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt flagged the change during a television appearance on Sunday morning.

“We’d like to see Western Australia open as soon as possible,” he told ABC’s Insiders host David Speers.

“We are hearing that they are considering bringing that forward to at least, well, coincidentally, to time with the cricket.”


Yes, indeed... what a coincidence. Roll Eyes

So, the question that now needs to be asked is: how many Perth and WA hospitalisations and deaths are acceptable for a game of cricket?

Especially since the players will be coming straight here from Sydney and only needing to have a 5 day quarantine before playing the fifth test here in Perth.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of people are not happy about this and I don't blame them.

$$$ ahead of peoples' lives again. Damn hypocrites.


Yes.

Another very bad decision.

bugger the cricket.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:22am:
Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

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Western Australia’s borders could open to the rest of the country in the first few weeks of 2022, significantly earlier than planned.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt flagged the change during a television appearance on Sunday morning.

“We’d like to see Western Australia open as soon as possible,” he told ABC’s Insiders host David Speers.

“We are hearing that they are considering bringing that forward to at least, well, coincidentally, to time with the cricket.”


Yes, indeed... what a coincidence. Roll Eyes

So, the question that now needs to be asked is: how many Perth and WA hospitalisations and deaths are acceptable for a game of cricket?

Especially since the players will be coming straight here from Sydney and only needing to have a 5 day quarantine before playing the fifth test here in Perth.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of people are not happy about this and I don't blame them.

$$$ ahead of peoples' lives again. Damn hypocrites.




thats a subjective question.

an ashes test will bring a lot of joy to maybe 100,000 spectators over 5 days.

now if covid was killing children, the ammount of suffering from even a handful of deaths might mean that the suffering outweighs the joy.

if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

when death is approaching from old age, a peaceful respiratory "slipping away" may be preferable to a painful death from bone cancer or a humiliating death from dementia.

these are hard questions and there are no right answers.

the young have been asked to do most of the sacrificing so far and it seems equitable that the elderly and infirm can also be asked to contribute to community flourishing and joy
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Thank you, aqua.

Noted and promptly filed away with most of your other posts in the round filing cabinet under my desk.

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Carl D wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:52am:
Thank you, aqua.

Noted and promptly filed away with most of your other posts in the round filing cabinet under my desk.

Smiley



hi carl.

i have composed an open letter on your behalf.
i think you should consider it.


"dear fellow citizens of australia, i want to express my enormous gratitude to you all, especailly the young, for putting their lives on hold for 2 years so that i could be the priority.
you have given up so much
being with your friends at school
travel
opportunites to play team sports and visit other states and countries.

i am so grateful

and that 2 years has enabled me to get 2 shots of free vaccine and now a booster !!!, so i am now as healthy as i could possibly be.

there is nothing more you can do for me
you have already done so much

please now get on with your lives and accept this letter of gratitude.
your sacrifice has been so great and i am so appreciative.

yours sincerely  carl and gweggy
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:49am:
if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...
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Thanks again, aqua.

Noted and filed away with your previous post(s).  Roll Eyes

While I'm here:

‘I don’t like him’: Aussie cricket star burns WA Premier Mark McGowan

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Former Australian spin bowler Stephen O’Keefe has taken a swipe at West Australian Premier Mark McGowan in response to the state’s hardline border restrictions.

On Friday, McGowan said the WA border would open only when 90 per cent of the population aged 12 years and older have had two Covid-19 jabs, which is not expected until late January or early February.

The announcement cast doubt over the fifth Ashes Test, scheduled to start in Perth on January 14.


lol... I very much doubt that Mark McGowan cares what you think, Stephen.

And, on behalf of myself and probably most West Australians... sod off!
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 11:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:49am:
if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...



so whats the old mans friend now north?

immortality seems to be what carl and gweggy think they deserve.

as you say, we should just pass legislation banning death

big fines for anyone who doesnt comply
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 5:55pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 11:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 10:49am:
if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...



so whats the old mans friend now north?

A blast of morphine.
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Reply #743 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 5:07pm
 
While the rest of Australia is falling over themselves in the big rush to reopen everything (including unrestricted interstate and overseas travel) the voice of common sense and reason is still here in WA:

Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan says COVID-19 outbreaks in Europe pose 'risk' to Australia

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Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan has warned coronavirus cases in hotel quarantine will grow as parts of Europe battle "massive" outbreaks.

Mr McGowan held a COVID-19 update on Monday morning where he announced one infection was recorded in hotel quarantine overnight.

The positive case, a flight crew member, was picked up through the state's testing regime and remains in isolation.


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“Our expectation is the number of cases in hotel quarantine will grow because people in particular are returning from Europe,” he said.

“They’re having a massive outbreak in parts of Europe now.

“When Australians return from there, it’s causing some risk to Western Australia and Australia more generally.”


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Mr McGowan added it shows the "value" of hotel quarantine.


Still don't agree with this bit but its the best we have at the moment seeing as the Federal government failed in their responsibility to handle quarantine and 'handballed it' to the States last year.

So, while almost everywhere else in Australia seems to believe the pandemic is over (and, I'm still predicting they're going to get a big reminder real soon that it isn't) at least our Premier is still doing his best to protect West Australians. Smiley
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hi carl.

covid is surging in europe amongst very highly vaccinated populations.

you can gaurantee that will happen here as well.

might as well face your destiny now whilst you still have antibodies.

next year, you will be older and have less antibodies and the virus may well be more virulent.

when you refuse to face a threat, you get weaker and the threat gets stronger.


remember

human beings were not designed for security and safety.

they were designed for challenge and adventure.

you are fighting mother nature and human nature on so many levels.
but you will lose that fight in the end.

covid is way way way smarter then you or your foolish premier
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 5:21pm:
covid is way way way smarter then you or your foolish premier


Covid isn't smart at all although I sometimes wonder about that seeing as it always seems to 'outsmart' most of our so called leaders (mainly because they're more concerned about money and the economy than peoples' lives).

Oh, and....
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i think that rubbish bin is where your premiers policies belong.

fancy think you can keep out a virus that has spread to every corner of the globe.

i'll bet my left arm that WA has covid everywhere within 6 months.

you cant outrun your destiny
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Latest: WA is due to open up mid next year sometime.
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Reply #748 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 5:38pm:
i think that rubbish bin is where your premiers policies belong.

fancy think you can keep out a virus that has spread to every corner of the globe.

i'll bet my left arm that WA has covid everywhere within 6 months.

you cant outrun your destiny
You said that 6 months ago. And 6 months before that. You wont have any body parts left if you keep going.
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So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.
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rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.



rhino,

WA is like a farm on the top of a hill, with bushfires out of control heading for it, bragging that it is in fine shape because nothing is ablaze YET.

WA is like a fattie sitting on a couch watching the tour de france saying he is in better shape because his pulse and respiratory rate is less then the cyclists.

you are going the "early crow"
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 5:38pm:
i think that rubbish bin is where your premiers policies belong.

fancy think you can keep out a virus that has spread to every corner of the globe.



Nobody thinks that, and nobody has said that.

You're just making up bullshit, as usual.

Meanwhile, in sunny WA: no toll roads, no pokies, no restrictions, no masks, no COVID, no worries   Smiley
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rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.

In Niall Ferguson's 'Doom - The Politics of Catastrophe', he describes those economic forecasters who 'predicted' the 2007-2008 GFC.

After he'd researched their work, he noted that all of them had been predicting economic meltdown every year, some for over a decade.

They were all ignored, until they jagged one. Some were then hailed as economic 'prophets' by those who'd not looked back at their regular annual failed prophecies.

It reminded me of an experiment in 'predicting' airline crashes. Data was collected from many recent (at the time) airline crashes including insignificant details like the colour of the planes' branding... Long story short, they were able to successfully 'predict' with reasonable 'accuracy' the details of the next crash including a proximal date of the disaster.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 10:05am:
rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.

In Niall Ferguson's 'Doom - The Politics of Catastrophe', he describes those economic forecasters who 'predicted' the 2007-2008 GFC.

After he'd researched their work, he noted that all of them had been predicting economic meltdown every year, some for over a decade.

They were all ignored, until they jagged one. Some were then hailed as economic 'prophets' by those who'd not looked back at their regular annual failed prophecies.

It reminded me of an experiment in 'predicting' airline crashes. Data was collected from many recent (at the time) airline crashes including insignificant details like the colour of the planes' branding... Long story short, they were able to successfully 'predict' with reasonable 'accuracy' the details of the next crash including a proximal date of the disaster.



We will see Mr North

Early days

The virus isn't going anywhere and neither is western Australia
They couldn't keep the cane toad out
Their chances of keeping out a tiny little fragment of RNA carried by a symptomatic people is 0
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 10:17am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 10:05am:
rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.

In Niall Ferguson's 'Doom - The Politics of Catastrophe', he describes those economic forecasters who 'predicted' the 2007-2008 GFC.

After he'd researched their work, he noted that all of them had been predicting economic meltdown every year, some for over a decade.

They were all ignored, until they jagged one. Some were then hailed as economic 'prophets' by those who'd not looked back at their regular annual failed prophecies.

It reminded me of an experiment in 'predicting' airline crashes. Data was collected from many recent (at the time) airline crashes including insignificant details like the colour of the planes' branding... Long story short, they were able to successfully 'predict' with reasonable 'accuracy' the details of the next crash including a proximal date of the disaster.



We will see Mr North

Early days

The virus isn't going anywhere and neither is western Australia
They couldn't keep the cane toad out
Their chances of keeping out a tiny little fragment of RNA carried by a symptomatic people is 0

If you'd been keeping up, you'd have known that the WA government has already warned West Australians that covid will enter WA after the hard border and travel restrictions have ended.

Doesn't require any 'clairvoyance' to jag that one.

What that state government is doing is bracing itself to preserve hospital resources, not eliminate covid once the hard border is removed.
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 10:17am:
Early days

The virus isn't going anywhere and neither is western Australia
They couldn't keep the cane toad out
Their chances of keeping out a tiny little fragment of RNA carried by a symptomatic people is 0


Once again... NO-ONE has said that Western Australia (or anywhere else for that matter) can keep Covid out.

Its like some sort of weird obsession with you.

Why do we have to keep repeating this over and over?

The best we can hope for is to keep it out for as long as possible and try to make sure our health system is prepared and also to get everyone (or as many people as possible) vaccinated.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 10:05am:
rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.

In Niall Ferguson's 'Doom - The Politics of Catastrophe', he describes those economic forecasters who 'predicted' the 2007-2008 GFC.

After he'd researched their work, he noted that all of them had been predicting economic meltdown every year, some for over a decade.

They were all ignored, until they jagged one. Some were then hailed as economic 'prophets' by those who'd not looked back at their regular annual failed prophecies.

It reminded me of an experiment in 'predicting' airline crashes. Data was collected from many recent (at the time) airline crashes including insignificant details like the colour of the planes' branding... Long story short, they were able to successfully 'predict' with reasonable 'accuracy' the details of the next crash including a proximal date of the disaster.

yes a,  phenomenon racecourse touts have long been familiar with and a foundation of the Adventist religious movement.
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 5:16am:
rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of  WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.



rhino,

WA is like a farm on the top of a hill, with bushfires out of control heading for it, bragging that it is in fine shape because nothing is ablaze YET.

WA is like a fattie sitting on a couch watching the tour de france saying he is in better shape because his pulse and respiratory rate is less then the cyclists.

you are going the "early crow"
I analysed risk for many years , what you are trying to maintain is that WA is at increased risk because of Mcgowans border policy, any argument you make shows the opposite though and I deal in cold hard facts  , not airy fairy attempted analogies based on  what vision you saw in the paddock last night. So you can make as many stupid Nostradamus style predictions as you like, but the hard facts re, WA is at decreased risk and will remain so when the borders open. There is zero dispute amongst anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together that closing movement till as many people as possible are vaccinated is exactly the right tactic, as other countries and states are now proving this
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um,

dear rhino, carl and north (the trifecta of cognitive dissonance).

australia has now sent
10 million
doses of vaccine overseas because they were about to expire.

they were
unwanted


so everyone has had ample time to get the vax and procrastinating at this point is a
"non fruitful " strategy.

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.
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Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)
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um,

dear rhino, carl and north (the trifecta of cognitive dissonance).

australia has now sent
10 million
doses of vaccine overseas because they were about to expire.

they were
unwanted


so everyone has had ample time to get the vax and procrastinating at this point is a
"non fruitful " strategy.

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

You should watch 'The Father'.
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #764 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:53pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes.  That's correct.

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Reply #765 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



Entering Victoria is to do with Victorian travel rules, slimy.  As for WA residents returning FROM Melbourne, you will have to quarantine yourself, turd.





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Reply #766 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:53pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes.  That's correct.



so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?
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Reply #767 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:34pm
 
oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

WA lists victoria as 'extremely high risk"


As part of our safe and sensible controlled border arrangement, conditions of quarantine apply to travellers coming into WA. These conditions apply to travellers arriving from a low risk jurisdiction. Travellers from medium, high, and extreme risk jurisdictions are not permitted to enter unless approved.

you wouldnt be allowed back, much less back to work

what a silly billy
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Reply #768 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:57pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:53pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes.  That's correct.



so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Well, if they are exempt from quaranteen.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-travel-wa

On arrival
By air

If you are arriving by plane there are several things you need to do.

You must complete a health screening on arrival at Perth Airport. You will need to scan your G2G Pass and, if applicable, verify if you have suitable premises for self-quarantine.

If you are required to self-quarantine, you must complete your quarantine period before you can travel to a regional area of WA by air or by road. This is unless your destination can be reached without stopping, except as required by law or necessary for fuel or rest.

If you use a taxi or ride-sharing service to get to your self-quarantine premises, you must wear a mask and inform the driver and any fellow passengers of your quarantine direction. They will also be required to wear a mask.

You are not permitted to use public transport, such as a bus or train, to get to your self-quarantine premises.

If you do not have suitable premises to self-quarantine, you will be directed to enter a government-approved quarantine facility at your own expense for 14 days.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-1...
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Reply #769 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:59pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:34pm:
oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

what a silly billy


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Reply #770 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:34pm:
oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

WA lists victoria as 'extremely high risk"


As part of our safe and sensible controlled border arrangement, conditions of quarantine apply to travellers coming into WA. These conditions apply to travellers arriving from a low risk jurisdiction. Travellers from medium, high, and extreme risk jurisdictions are not permitted to enter unless approved.

you wouldnt be allowed back, much less back to work

what a silly billy


"unless approved"

And I would be approved.

I'm a Perth resident who has been double vaxxed, and I'm working from home.

No problems whatsoever.

You really do have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.

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Reply #771 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:53pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


Yes.  People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.



for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes.  That's correct.



so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Well, if they are exempt from quaranteen.



Exactly.

And I AM exempt from quarantine.

No toll roads, no pokies, no daylight savings, no restrictions, no COVID, no masks.

Life is good   Smiley
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Reply #772 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:12pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:34pm:
oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

WA lists victoria as 'extremely high risk"


As part of our safe and sensible controlled border arrangement, conditions of quarantine apply to travellers coming into WA. These conditions apply to travellers arriving from a low risk jurisdiction. Travellers from medium, high, and extreme risk jurisdictions are not permitted to enter unless approved.

you wouldnt be allowed back, much less back to work

what a silly billy


"unless approved"

And I would be approved.

I'm a Perth resident who has been double vaxxed, and I'm working from home.

No problems whatsoever.

You really do have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.



lol.

roll into work i said.

not roll out of bed
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Reply #773 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:02pm:
And I AM exempt from quarantine.




I doubt it.  Slimy Macedonian content farmers are not on the exempt list:

Approved travellers from high risk jurisdictions:

Approved travellers include:

certain senior Government officials
certain active military personnel
a member of the Commonwealth Parliament
a person carrying out functions under a law of the Commonwealth
a specialist or category of specialist required for the performance of time critical services where the specialist's skills are not otherwise reasonably available in Western Australia who is approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer; or
any person or category of persons who has been approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer.
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Reply #774 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 4:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:02pm:
And I AM exempt from quarantine.




I doubt it.  Slimy Macedonian content farmers are not on the exempt list:

Approved travellers from high risk jurisdictions:

Approved travellers include:

certain senior Government officials
certain active military personnel
a member of the Commonwealth Parliament
a person carrying out functions under a law of the Commonwealth
a specialist or category of specialist required for the performance of time critical services where the specialist's skills are not otherwise reasonably available in Western Australia who is approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer; or
any person or category of persons who has been approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer.
https://www.wa.gov.au/government/publications/covid-19-coronavirus-controlled-bo...



oh dear,

more white flags from gweggy.

i simply have nowhere to store them
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Reply #775 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 5:08pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 3:02pm:
And I AM exempt from quarantine.




I doubt it. 


Go ahead.

You'd be wrong.

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Reply #776 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 5:10pm
 
so gweggy is saying he is in one of those categories.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

maybe the military?

responsible for sending out white flags  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #777 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?
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Reply #778 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:31pm
 
Just for aqua:

Another day of zero local Covid cases for the great State of WA.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1461231036549844995

The only threat to us at the moment (as usual) is those endless pesky infected 'returning travellers' from overseas.
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Reply #779 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?



if you have friends in melbourne, (which the bed wetters in WA have labelled extremely high risk) you WILL NOT be able to visit them
(according to the WA website).

now gweggy says you can fly to melbounre for the weekend and return to WA and roll into work on monday  (his words not mine).

we have established he is a liar.

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

say you had a "friend" in melbourne getting married.

you are happy to unfriend them because safety and security are way more important
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Reply #780 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:37pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?



if you have friends in melbourne, (which the bed wetters in WA have labelled extremely high risk) you WILL NOT be able to visit them
(according to the WA website).

now gweggy says you can fly to melbounre for the weekend and return to WA and roll into work on monday  (his words not mine).

we have established he is a liar.

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

say you had a "friend" in melbourne getting married.

you are happy to unfriend them because safety and security are way more important

What happened to Mrs Scoot?

No 'silly billy' in this post.
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Reply #781 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:38pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:25pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 1:40pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 12:35pm:
what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety


No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.



really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)


What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?



if you have friends in melbourne, (which the bed wetters in WA have labelled extremely high risk) you WILL NOT be able to visit them


Incorrect.

I can get on a plane tomorrow and go to Melbourne.

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Reply #782 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
now gweggy says you can fly to melbounre for the weekend and return to WA and roll into work on monday  (his words not mine).



Incorrect.

They were your words, not mine.

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Reply #783 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm
 
aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?

I've been talking about how good life is here in Perth and WA at the moment.

For example, my 91 year old aunt and I had lunch at a cafe in North Perth then we went for a drive and ended up at Belmont Forum to do a bit of shopping before coming home.

No restrictions... no masks... no Covid... no worries. Just how over 80% of us want to to remain for as long as possible. At least until the New Year, anyway.
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Reply #784 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.



Three strikes.  You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."



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Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?



You didn't.  Neither did I.

But now he's saying it's my words, not his.

And, he's wrong - we are free to leave the state.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

I've never known anyone to be so out of touch with reality as aquascoot.

Everything he says is completely wrong.

I don't know how he does it.

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Reply #786 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.



Three strikes.  You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."





Which of course means that any travel issues are not caused by WA but by the States that have allowed Covid to run loose (NSW and Victoria) and those that are planning to do so shortly.
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Reply #787 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:51pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:33pm:
so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.



Three strikes.  You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."





Which of course means that any travel issues are not caused by WA but by the States that have allowed Covid to run loose (NSW and Victoria) and those that are planning to do so shortly.


Exactly.

aquascoot has no idea what he's talking about.

I get the feeling that he's never left his own state.  Ever.

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Reply #788 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?



You didn't.  Neither did I.

But now he's saying it's my words, not his.

And, he's wrong - we are free to leave the state.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

I've never known anyone to be so out of touch with reality as aquascoot.

Everything he says is completely wrong.

I don't know how he does it.




gweggy stop it Grin Grin Grin Grin

i cannot accept any more white flags.

you said you could go to melbourne for the weekend and then return sunday night and roll into work monday.

you cant

unless you are telling us you fit one of the criteria frank posted.

its on your website

now go and start stitching that white flag to the pole for me like a good boy
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Reply #789 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:54pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?



You didn't.  Neither did I.

But now he's saying it's my words, not his.

And, he's wrong - we are free to leave the state.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

I've never known anyone to be so out of touch with reality as aquascoot.

Everything he says is completely wrong.

I don't know how he does it.




gweggy stop it Grin Grin Grin Grin

i cannot accept any more white flags.

you said you could go to melbourne for the weekend and then return sunday night and roll into work monday.

you cant



I can.

And they were your words, not mine.

Three strikes, buddy - you're out!
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Reply #790 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:59pm
 
I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Yes, they were.
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what time are you dropping gweggy at the airport tomorrow for his weekend in melbourne carl?

and dont forget to pick him up sunday night so he can be ready for work monday.


now if you were going from sydney, you could do this.

but not from WA.

so much for your freedoms  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin.

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Reply #792 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:09pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Yes, they were.


Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good   Smiley

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Reply #793 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:16pm
 
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Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Yes, they were.


Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good   Smiley

Thank you Mr McGowan.




what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with your lie that you could go to melbourne for the weekend and return and face no restrictions.

when carl picks you up at the airport i suggest you will both face hefty fines.

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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:09pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Yes, they were.


Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good   Smiley

Thank you Mr McGowan.




what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with your lie that you could go to melbourne for the weekend and return and face no restrictions.




You have no idea what you're talking about.

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Not everyone shovels horse poo for a living.

You've had three strikes - you're out.

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I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really? Under what circumstances (other than those elite exempted under very specific circumstances) can anyone else exit WA and return without quarantine?
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i think the premier needs to be informed that you are intending to try to illegally return to WA after visiting melbourne.

The WA health websire lists melbourne as extreme risk and does not grant approvals to enter WA except for the rare people on franks list  (MP's and military commanders for example).

so whats our exempt category?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
i think the premier needs to be informed that you are intending to try to illegally return to WA after visiting melbourne.


Nothing illegal about it at all.

I can go, return, and continue work the next day without breaking any laws.

If you "think" otherwise, let our wonderful Premier know.

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/people/mark-mcgowan

Let me know how that goes, okay?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?


Yep.
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?


Yep.

How?


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aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:09pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 6:59pm:
I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?


Yes, they were.


Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good   Smiley

Thank you Mr McGowan.




what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with ...




Oh, I'm just rubbing it in.

Thanks to Labor governments we don't have those things.

And, thanks to Labor governments we don't have COVID, masks, restrictions, or lockdowns.

Life is pretty good here   Smiley
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NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:30pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?


Yep.

How?

If the reason you can do this is because you are one of the few exempt, it would hardly be the experience of 99% of west australians.

Given that, it's not worth raising it as proof that the state is actually open to residents in the way you imply.
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Not everyone shovels horse poo for a living.




No - but you do.   Wink
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Another one for all the idiots who believe home quarantine is a great idea.

Woman allegedly breached COVID self-quarantine to shop in Fremantle after arriving from Darwin

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A woman has been charged after allegedly breaching her COVID quarantine to go shopping in Fremantle.

The 55-year-old woman from Leda, in Perth’s southern suburbs, arrived in Perth on a flight from Darwin on November 19.

In line with WA’s strict quarantine requirements, the woman was ordered to isolate at home for 14 days.

However, police allege the woman breached quarantine on several occasions, including by going to a clothes store in Fremantle.

She is also alleged to have stayed at another property, where she was not permitted to self-quarantine, and had not taken a 48-hour COVID test.


Its about time the authorities started making a real example of people like this with massive fines and/or prison time.

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Hope they're doing a better job of screening here in Perth than what they're doing in Queensland.  Roll Eyes

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Carl D wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 6:23pm:
Another one for all the idiots who believe home quarantine is a great idea.

Woman allegedly breached COVID self-quarantine to shop in Fremantle after arriving from Darwin

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A woman has been charged after allegedly breaching her COVID quarantine to go shopping in Fremantle.

The 55-year-old woman from Leda, in Perth’s southern suburbs, arrived in Perth on a flight from Darwin on November 19.

In line with WA’s strict quarantine requirements, the woman was ordered to isolate at home for 14 days.

However, police allege the woman breached quarantine on several occasions, including by going to a clothes store in Fremantle.

She is also alleged to have stayed at another property, where she was not permitted to self-quarantine, and had not taken a 48-hour COVID test.


Its about time the authorities started making a real example of people like this with massive fines and/or prison time.

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Hope they're doing a better job of screening here in Perth than what they're doing in Queensland.  Roll Eyes



Shopping in Fremantle?   Undecided

Hardly the place to go shopping.

Anyway, keep up the hard border, Mr Premier.

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Anyway, keep up the hard border, Mr Premier.



Seconded. Smiley

Especially with the developing Covid situation in South Australia (after being open for only 2 days).

https://twitter.com/SAHealth/status/1463785350745128962

And, forget Lambda and Mu (have these arrived in Australia yet?).... here comes the 'new and improved'.... *drum roll*...
Nu variant
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10238113/New-Botswana-variant-32-horrif...

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British experts have sounded the alarm over a new Covid variant believed to have emerged in Botswana that is the most mutated version of the virus yet.

Only 10 cases of the strain, which could eventually be named 'Nu', have been detected so far.

But it has already been spotted in three countries, suggesting the variant is more widespread.

It carries 32 mutations, many of which suggest it is highly transmissible and vaccine-resistant, and has more alterations to its spike protein than any other variant.


And, just like its predecessors it seems to have the 'magical' ability to teleport itself around the world. Simply amazing!  Roll Eyes

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Scientists told MailOnline, however, that its unprecedented number of mutations might work against it and make it 'unstable', preventing it from becoming widespread.

They said there was 'no need to be overly concerned' because there were no signs yet that it was spreading rapidly.


Yeah, OK. But, I'm sure we all heard the same thing about the original Covid strain at the start of the pandemic nearly 2 years ago.

Nek minnit... over 5 million dead (and counting) worldwide.
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Reply #806 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:54pm
 
And... here we go... Mark is finally 'caving in' just like the rest of Australia.

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/covid-communications/covid-19-coronavirus-get...

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Thanks to the efforts of the Western Australian community, WA will transition safely, easing its borders on Saturday 5 February, 2022.


All of these businesses (and Scotty from Marketing) that have been putting pressure on State governments to have everything reopened may find that it backfires on them badly here in WA just like it probably will in other States that are now "living (and dying) with Covid".

For one thing, from February 5th my elderly aunt and I will only be going out of the house (and spending money) when it is absolutely essential. I'm not risking her life (and mine) especially since I've been hearing that even the 2 doses of the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine we've both had are totally ineffective against Omicron.

Wonder if Mark is aware of that?

I strongly suspect a lot of people (especially the elderly) will feel and respond exactly the same way. Businesses won't be making too much money if people are not in the shops spending and staying home instead because they're worried about getting Covid.

Oh, and...

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* provide proof of being double dose vaccinated against COVID-19 when entering certain businesses, venues and large events.

*check in using the SafeWA app or a manual contact register.


Wonder who's going to be checking and enforcing that seeing as no-one appears to be doing it (check in using the SafeWA app or a manual contact register only) at the moment and LOTS of people here still don't bother checking in.

I've also heard that hardly anyone is checking in lately in the other States that have allowed Covid in because they don't want to be notified that they've been in a Covid 'hotspot' and have to spend Christmas in quarantine. Can't say I blame them.

Also...

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Masks will be required in high risk indoor settings, including:

*on public transport, taxis and ride share vehicles


While I agree with that (even though it wouldn't be happening if we don't allow Covid in) what will probably happen is a lot of people who normally use public transport will just use their cars instead causing even more congestion on the roads. Brilliant.

Total madness... all for the sake of the almighty dollar. As usual.
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All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!
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i  think we can gaurantee that we are all going to get omicron.

it looks like the entire population of the UK and the USA will have it by christmas
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Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!


Another foolish State (with a Liberal government, of course) which had ZERO Covid cases for a very long time until they recently reopened and decided to 'let it rip'.

Another 12 new cases in SA today and the number of exposure locations continue to grow (the whole of Adelaide was listed as an exposure location a few days back).

With Christmas just a week and a half away can you imagine anyone in their right mind saying they've been in an exposure location and then having to isolate themselves for 7 or 14 days?

This also explains why the number of people checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper registers has started to drop dramatically in the lead up to Christmas.

Here in Perth I've spoken to a number of people on my 'shopping travels' this morning and they've all said the same thing I said yesterday... when WA reopens on February 5th and Covid gets loose they will be leaving their homes for essential reasons only which doesn't bode well for the WA economy.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses which will probably (once again) bear the brunt of reduced income with people staying home because they don't want to get Covid.


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Carl D wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:39pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!


Another foolish State (with a Liberal government, of course) which had ZERO Covid cases for a very long time until they recently reopened and decided to 'let it rip'.

Another 12 new cases in SA today and the number of exposure locations continue to grow (the whole of Adelaide was listed as an exposure location a few days back).

With Christmas just a week and a half away can you imagine anyone in their right mind saying they've been in an exposure location and then having to isolate themselves for 7 or 14 days?

This also explains why the number of people checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper registers has started to drop dramatically in the lead up to Christmas.

Here in Perth I've spoken to a number of people on my 'shopping travels' this morning and they've all said the same thing I said yesterday... when WA reopens on February 5th and Covid gets loose they will be leaving their homes for essential reasons only which doesn't bode well for the WA economy.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses which will probably (once again) bear the brunt of reduced income with people staying home because they don't want to get Covid.





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aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
they aim to survive, not to thrive.


Yeah, but as long as Qantas, Virgin, Flight Centre, tourism and the international student 'industry' are thriving too bad, so sad for everyone else, eh?
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Oh, and let's not forget the skilled migrant rorts which will no doubt be resuming very soon as well.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 3:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
they aim to survive, not to thrive.


Yeah, but as long as Qantas, Virgin, Flight Centre, tourism and the international student 'industry' are thriving too bad, so sad for everyone else, eh?



carl  , omicron is going to infect every australian in the next 6 months. thankfully it doesnt cause respiratory illness.  just tiredness and headache.

the average chode hiding at home is already tired and has a headache from holding his head still whilst he absorbs endless stimuli from his tv.

he wont even notice the difference.

and the rare men who want to have adventures can get back to thriving.

this is what steven covey calls a win/win.

now run along and forget about covid.

aqua declares the pandemic over.

i know that rough if you are a pfizer executive or a chode
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
aqua declares the pandemic over.


Phew! Thank goodness for that.

Almost as big a relief as Scotty from Marketing telling us that Omicron is nothing to worry about.

And, I'm sure both of you have exactly the same medical qualifications and expertise (i.e. NONE).

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One thing's for sure, it doesn't look like our hospitals will be prepared for the arrival of Covid in February.

COVID is coming to WA: Will hospitals be ready when border reopens on February 5?

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But it hasn’t stopped almost endless Code Yellows, where WA hospitals have been at capacity.

One Code Yellow was even called as Monday’s media conference on COVID unfolded.


So, no different to every other Australian State it would seem.
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We might be getting Covid here in WA earlier than expected.

Three truck drivers test positive for COVID-19 after spending time in Western Australia

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The cases stem from two different trucks that entered the state on December 9 carrying four drivers, with all testing negative for the virus at the border before being allowed in.

The first truck was carrying two drivers, who were in WA from December 9 to December 11.

Both returned positive PCR tests for COVID-19 after returning to South Australia.

"So it is possible both men were infectious during the three days that they were in Western Australia," Health Minister Roger Cook said.


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Freedom day is coming soon Carl so you just hang in there and get your triple booster shot.
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Johnnie wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 7:35pm:
Freedom day is coming soon Carl so you just hang in there and get your triple booster shot.


We already have freedom.

No masks.

No lockdowns.

No restrictions.

It's life as normal here in Perth.

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A big shout out to today's West Australian for reminding everyone (unintentionally, of course) what reopening WA and the rest of Australia is really all about.

Doesn't matter if the peasants have to stay in their homes for fear of getting Covid after February 5th (with the resulting disastrous effects on small businesses, etc.) as long as the wealthy can start hopping onto planes again and travelling to Rome and other overseas destinations (the Perth to London flights will also be resuming soon).

The Letters to the Editor section is also full of people 'gushing' about how wonderful it is that WA is opening up on February 5th. Just one letter complaining about still needing to be tested for Covid and still requiring a G2G pass.

Wonder if the paper will give 'equal space' in tomorrow's letter section for all those who believe opening up is a really, really bad idea (especially after watching what's happening to the rest of Australia)?

Alan Joyce has no doubt been jumping for joy as I'm sure Jayne "we need to open up even if people die" from Virgin and Graham "better open all the States up soon or I'll take them to court" from Flight Centre have as well now that they can go back to counting their millions.

Can't remember where I read it or who said it but someone remarked a while back that some people would be prepared to stand on top of a pile of dead bodies to defend their wealth.

Can't argue with that after what we've seen and heard since the start of the pandemic.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 4:09pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 3:50pm:
aqua declares the pandemic over.


Phew! Thank goodness for that.

Almost as big a relief as Scotty from Marketing telling us that Omicron is nothing to worry about.

And, I'm sure both of you have exactly the same medical qualifications and expertise (i.e. NONE).

Roll Eyes



Carl is an example of how Covid is as much a psychic epidemic as a viral one. Lots of people are psychically 'infected' and have no ability to find their way back to equilibrium.
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Carl is an example of someone who likes to believe there's a special place in hell reserved for those who put money and the economy ahead of peoples' lives.

Like we're seeing all around Australia right now.

Carl would also like to believe that when the time comes I'll have a 'ring side seat' to the above scenario (I'll even offer to fan the flames to keep them hot and strong from time to time as well).
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:55pm:
Carl D wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:39pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!


Another foolish State (with a Liberal government, of course) which had ZERO Covid cases for a very long time until they recently reopened and decided to 'let it rip'.

Another 12 new cases in SA today and the number of exposure locations continue to grow (the whole of Adelaide was listed as an exposure location a few days back).

With Christmas just a week and a half away can you imagine anyone in their right mind saying they've been in an exposure location and then having to isolate themselves for 7 or 14 days?

This also explains why the number of people checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper registers has started to drop dramatically in the lead up to Christmas.

Here in Perth I've spoken to a number of people on my 'shopping travels' this morning and they've all said the same thing I said yesterday... when WA reopens on February 5th and Covid gets loose they will be leaving their homes for essential reasons only which doesn't bode well for the WA economy.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses which will probably (once again) bear the brunt of reduced income with people staying home because they don't want to get Covid.





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Sadly, it doesn't look like a lot of small businesses all around Australia will be thriving after borders are opened, Covid runs loose and people don't want to leave their homes.

This is a restaurant in Gympie, Queensland last night after Queensland's border was opened last Monday and compulsory masks were reintroduced yesterday.

Seen several more hospitality venues reporting a big downturn in customers in Queensland yesterday as well. Same thing will happen everywhere in Australia (including here in WA) after the borders reopen.

And...

Saturday 18 December – coronavirus cases in Queensland:

• 24 new locally acquired cases
• 5 new interstate acquired cases
• 2 new overseas acquired cases

But, as I said, as long as airlines and other associated big businesses are making money who cares about small business? Tragic.
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Reply #823 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 12:50pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 11:09am:
A big shout out to today's West Australian for reminding everyone (unintentionally, of course) what reopening WA and the rest of Australia is really all about.

Doesn't matter if the peasants have to stay in their homes for fear of getting Covid after February 5th (with the resulting disastrous effects on small businesses, etc.) as long as the wealthy can start hopping onto planes again and travelling to Rome and other overseas destinations (the Perth to London flights will also be resuming soon).

The Letters to the Editor section is also full of people 'gushing' about how wonderful it is that WA is opening up on February 5th. Just one letter complaining about still needing to be tested for Covid and still requiring a G2G pass.

Wonder if the paper will give 'equal space' in tomorrow's letter section for all those who believe opening up is a really, really bad idea (especially after watching what's happening to the rest of Australia)?

Alan Joyce has no doubt been jumping for joy as I'm sure Jayne "we need to open up even if people die" from Virgin and Graham "better open all the States up soon or I'll take them to court" from Flight Centre have as well now that they can go back to counting their millions.

Can't remember where I read it or who said it but someone remarked a while back that some people would be prepared to stand on top of a pile of dead bodies to defend their wealth.

Can't argue with that after what we've seen and heard since the start of the pandemic.


That's right, Carl. What Mark McGowan opening up WA to the world is really all about is Australians being allowed to leave.

I know, I know, so unfair. Still, you can always import a few to compensate. I'm sure there are plenty of people in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka or even the east coast of Australia, happy to travel over to WA to help pick crops or pack goods or work in your convenience stores - all the jobs you need filled while you're busy mining your iron ore.

The University of Western Australia can get some students, the Margaret River can get some tourists, your service sector can get some badly-needed labour, and WA can keep on keeping on while the trains load the ships and sail away with all that red dirt.

Some call it capitalism. Others call it globalisation. Others call it being awesome. I call it carrying on.

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Reply #824 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:33pm:
Carl is an example of someone who likes to believe there's a special place in hell reserved for those who put money and the economy ahead of peoples' lives.

Like we're seeing all around Australia right now.

Carl would also like to believe that when the time comes I'll have a 'ring side seat' to the above scenario (I'll even offer to fan the flames to keep them hot and strong from time to time as well).


We Australians like to think we’re a tough lot but the truth is we’re a bunch of bedwetters. It’s time we found our balls.

For months we have been told that when Covid restrictions eased case numbers would naturally increase but there was no need for panic.

And so what happened? Case numbers increased and we sharted our britches.

This is the inconvenient truth that Covid has exposed.

There are two Australias: One is the rugged, relaxed and confident character of our national mythos and the other is the anxious, angry and cosseted character who demands unconditional protection from all life’s slings and arrows.

When you get right down to it, there are essentially just two basic options for dealing with this disease: One is that we lockdown and lockout forever and the other is that we accept that eventually most of us will get Covid in some form or another.

This is what health experts have been saying ad nauseam as they pushed for higher vaccination rates and prepared us for life after lockdown. It seems that most of us nodded our heads but few of us actually listened.

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Reply #825 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:33pm:
Carl is an example of someone who likes to believe there's a special place in hell reserved for those who put money and the economy ahead of peoples' lives.

Like we're seeing all around Australia right now.

Carl would also like to believe that when the time comes I'll have a 'ring side seat' to the above scenario (I'll even offer to fan the flames to keep them hot and strong from time to time as well).


We Australians like to think we’re a tough lot but the truth is we’re a bunch of bedwetters. It’s time we found our balls.

For months we have been told that when Covid restrictions eased case numbers would naturally increase but there was no need for panic.

And so what happened? Case numbers increased and we sharted our britches.

This is the inconvenient truth that Covid has exposed.

There are two Australias: One is the rugged, relaxed and confident character of our national mythos and the other is the anxious, angry and cosseted character who demands unconditional protection from all life’s slings and arrows.

When you get right down to it, there are essentially just two basic options for dealing with this disease: One is that we lockdown and lockout forever and the other is that we accept that eventually most of us will get Covid in some form or another.

This is what health experts have been saying ad nauseam as they pushed for higher vaccination rates and prepared us for life after lockdown. It seems that most of us nodded our heads but few of us actually listened.

Joe Hildebrand



So, Carl, please take the plastic sheets off the mattress and grow a set.
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Reply #826 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 9:34pm
 
Speak for yourself, wog. We grew here.

You can grow your own.
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Reply #827 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 9:40pm
 
Let's hope that Mark McGowan is smart enough (and I'm sure he is) not to allow what I've heard is happening in Queensland, South Australia and probably Tasmania now as well where people are getting tested for Covid prior to boarding the planes in Sydney and Melbourne and after they arrive in the abovementioned States they're allowed to wander around wherever and whenever they want to until the test results come back which could be days later.

And, when you also have the slackness described in these two Whirlpool forum posts happening its no wonder that Covid has 'escaped' and well on the way to making the abovementioned States end up like NSW and Victoria.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan has held off with opening WA up until February 5th so he can see the 'mistakes' being made by the rest of Australia and hopefully avoid them here.
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Reply #828 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 10:38pm
 
On Feb 5, you'll be in exactly the same position. That's the point of vaccines: high case loads, low hospitalisations and deaths.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Reply #829 - Dec 21st, 2021 at 7:13pm
 
And, here we go...

Queensland couple test positive after arriving on flight from Brisbane

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COVID has crossed WA’s hard border, with two positive cases confirmed from interstate visitors.

A couple aged in their 30s flew in from Queensland before the State was elevated to medium risk.

The couple arrived in Perth on December 19 on Virgin Australia flight VA470 from Brisbane.

They have not spent any time in the community and went straight into self-quarantine at a home in Perth’s east with four relatives.

All four relatives have so far tested negative for COVID.

It’s not yet known whether the couple have the Omicron strain of the virus.

The new exposure sites include Perth Airport on Sunday from 10pm to 11pm and a 7-Eleven store in Midland on Monday at 12pm.


Fingers crossed this isn't going to ruin our Christmas like what's happening everywhere else in Australia.

Hint for Marky Mark... when you announce a border closure you need to do it IMMEDIATELY. Not 3 days later.

Anyway, we can't have a Covid outbreak here in WA just yet, wouldn't want to miss all of those staged videos and photos of joyous reunions at Perth Airport from February 5th like we've seen from all those now Covid infested other States, would we?
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Reply #830 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 6:15am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 2:39pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!


Another foolish State (with a Liberal government, of course) which had ZERO Covid cases for a very long time until they recently reopened and decided to 'let it rip'.

Another 12 new cases in SA today and the number of exposure locations continue to grow (the whole of Adelaide was listed as an exposure location a few days back).

With Christmas just a week and a half away can you imagine anyone in their right mind saying they've been in an exposure location and then having to isolate themselves for 7 or 14 days?

This also explains why the number of people checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper registers has started to drop dramatically in the lead up to Christmas.

Here in Perth I've spoken to a number of people on my 'shopping travels' this morning and they've all said the same thing I said yesterday... when WA reopens on February 5th and Covid gets loose they will be leaving their homes for essential reasons only which doesn't bode well for the WA economy.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses which will probably (once again) bear the brunt of reduced income with people staying home because they don't want to get Covid.




Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.

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Reply #831 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 6:15am
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2021 at 10:38pm:
On Feb 5, you'll be in exactly the same position. That's the point of vaccines: high case loads, low hospitalisations and deaths.

Wake up and smell the coffee. 

Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.
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Reply #832 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 7:04am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 6:15am:
Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.



Wow, Alec Baldwin has killed 12 people (so far)?  Shocked

UK Omicron deaths rise to 12

December 20 2021 - 8:12PM

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Twelve people in Britain have died with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus, Britain's Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab says, refusing to rule out a tightening of social restrictions before Christmas.


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In addition to the 12 deaths, Raab said 104 people were currently in hospital with Omicron. Officials warned last week that hospitalisations could hit new highs as the effects of the latest surge work their way through the population.


And, that's just in the UK.

That would make Alec a mass murderer, on his way to joining the lofty ranks of Scotty from Marketing and the rest of our useless politicians who knowingly allowed Covid (up to and including Omicron) into Australia and let it 'escape' causing 1254 deaths and counting.
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Reply #833 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 11:12am
 
Meanwhile, WA's daily 'rag' The West Australian continues with its long 'tradition' of ramping up the fear factor to sell more newspapers.

Who here in WA can forget their huge
YOU WILL GET VIRUS
headline from March or April 2020?

Today's 'effort' is
XMAS COVID CASES ALERT
then below it we have Majority back Feb 5 to end hard border as now it's Mr 77%

Wow, I didn't know until today that the population of WA was only
811
which is the number of people they surveyed. Probably in the wealthier suburbs too, I'll bet.

Of the 811, 46% believed February 5 was the "right time" to let COVID-19 in.

18% believed the date was "too late" (despite the Omicron surge in cases elsewhere).

The remaining 36% believed the border opening was "too soon".

Not surprisingly, older West Australians believe the virus is being let in too soon while the younger ones support the February 5th reopening date.

As I've said before - if Mark McGowan goes ahead with this very risky reopening I hope he won't be making all the same mistakes the other States have made but at the moment it looks like that's exactly what is going to happen.

* 1162 interstate arrival and departure flights and 260 international flights scheduled for Perth Airport in the week beginning February 5th.
* Just 227 interstate and 61 international flights this week for comparison.

What could possibly go wrong? Roll Eyes
But, I'm sure Qantas, Virgin and all the other airlines will be thrilled.

Bit of a worry too when the new Health Minister is also telling us it's time to open up. Wonder who's pulling her strings?
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Reply #834 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:33pm
 
hi carl

this brutal disease is devestating NSW.

number of people with omicron currently in ICU

zero



such a god send.  you really want to catch this

you would be crazy to let delta in but you should be paying people with omicron to come to WA
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Reply #835 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:40pm
 
I think you'll find the WA government will renege on the February 5 border reopening.

Already the AMA state president has already signalled that a review of the issue is 'highly likely'.

What will follow over the next few weeks will likely be a gradual shifting of political rhetoric towards reopening the border closer to March if not later.
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Reply #836 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:52pm
 
I hope so, MeisterEckhart.

As an example, my nearly 92 year old aunt has her Covid booster shot booked in for January 28th, Mine is a week later on February 4th which is a bit too close for comfort if the border does open February 5th.

I'll be keeping a close eye out to see if they change the timing of the boosters from 5 months to 4 or even 3 and if they do I'll be asking to have ours done sooner.
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Reply #837 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 1:04pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:52pm:
I hope so, MeisterEckhart.

As an example, my nearly 92 year old aunt has her Covid booster shot booked in for January 28th, Mine is a week later on February 4th which is a bit too close for comfort if the border does open February 5th.

I'll be keeping a close eye out to see if they change the timing of the boosters from 5 months to 4 or even 3 and if they do I'll be asking to have ours done sooner.

The best place to watch is not another Australian state, but New Zealand.

They have announced:
extending border restrictions to end of February,
booster shots brought forward to 4 months after the second shot,
48 hour testing prior to entry into the country,
all passengers on any inbound flight with even one passenger testing positive for omicron are to be treated as close contacts and forced into quarantine.

My guess is WA will be watching NZ as a political 'canary in the coalmine'.
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Reply #838 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 1:38pm
 
It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

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Reply #839 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 3:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 1:38pm:
It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.




you cant be too careful  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #840 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 5:16pm
 
Round them god damned sheep up again Clem, the 3rd jab is now mandatory for all sheep in WA.
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It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

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Reply #842 - Dec 22nd, 2021 at 5:39pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 1:38pm:
It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.


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Reply #844 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:21pm
 
And, here we go... I'm sure people like aqua will be thrilled.

‘It’s arrived’: Masks mandatory, large events cancelled after COVID-19 case bar-hopped in Northbridge

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Masks will be mandatory indoors and major public events over Christmas will be cancelled after a COVID-19 case bar-hopped in Northbridge at the weekend while potentially infectious.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday afternoon, WA Premier Mark McGowan confirmed the case was a male backpacker who arrived from Queensland on December 12, when no border restrictions were in place.

The unvaccinated man, 25, entered WA just one hour before the border with Queensland was lifted to require travellers to self-quarantine when there was only a “handful” of positive cases in Queensland.

He has been in WA for 12 days staying in a house in Girrawheen with four other people and his girlfriend, who is symptomatic. All are considered close contacts. His housemates were camping near Mandurah and have been contacted by Health WA.


ONE HOUR... unbelievable!

I always suspected some idiot from the eastern States would ruin Christmas for everyone here. And, why the hell are unvaccinated backpackers being allowed into WA during a pandemic which is steadily getting worse?

And, once again, this is why border closures need to be implemented IMMEDIATELY when they are announced, not days later.

No lockdown but we might as well be having one because I don't think too many people will be out and about wearing masks in the heat we're going to be having over the next week... 42 degrees forecast for Saturday and Sunday for starters.

http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml




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Reply #845 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:28pm
 
wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

Grin Grin

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves
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Reply #846 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:28pm:
wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

Grin Grin

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves


Why am I not surprised that you're the first to reply?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #847 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:33pm
 
carl, your state has messed up.
the guy had delta and has interacted with hundreds of people.

i told you to make love to the sniffles version...omicron.

but , no, you thought you could outamart mother nature

now you have the deadly delta...the most severe variant.

when you try to hide from a threat, it gets stronger

Mr perrotet may be willing to send you some red cross packages full of omicron.

it would be of benefit to open them asap
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Reply #848 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:38pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:29pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:28pm:
wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

Grin Grin

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves


Why am I not surprised that you're the first to reply?  Roll Eyes

Maybe a case of misery loving company?

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Reply #849 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
carl, your state has messed up.


Yeah.

No COVID, no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions, no businesses closed.

A real mess.
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The European Union approved its
FIFTH
Covid-19 vaccine Monday, stepping up its battle against the omicron virus variant as the WHO called for greater efforts to ensure the pandemic ends next year.



So ending after 3 years, in 2022, is in no way sure. EXPERTS are calling for the fifth jab.


Will there be a sixth? seventh? What IS the EXPERT UBNDERSTANDING??  Uncertainty.  They do not know.

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Reply #851 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:46pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:
And, why the hell are unvaccinated backpackers being allowed into WA during a pandemic which is steadily getting worse?


Right on, Jenny.  Smiley
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Reply #852 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:49pm
 
Still won't get any argument from me, that's for sure.

She's also had a few more comments to make which I totally agree with, can't be bothered doing any more screenshots right now so here's the thread if anyone's interested:

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1473912044340408320

Oh, and Mark McGowan ... sorry, Mark's social media team... if you must insist on making announcements, etc. on Facebook you really need to change the settings so you don't need to have a Facebook account just to read it.
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Reply #853 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 9:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:33pm:
carl, your state has messed up.


Yeah.

No COVID, no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions, no businesses closed.

A real mess.


No immigration.

Oh-er, the old boy's having an existential crisis.

Colonialism ended far too soon, no?
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Reply #854 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 2:45am
 
Looking through this thread, Raven is astonished to see those on the east coast acting disgusted with our approach to COVID and hoping we get our "comeuppance."

No doubt they are reacting with glee now that we have confirmed cases.

What the f.uck is wrong with you? WA's government chartered a course through the pandemic and the people supported that course. Democracy in action.

And all you've done is piss and moan about how our State has decided to handled COVID.

Is it the tall poppy syndrome? You can't handle the fact that some of your fellow Australians are living a carefree life?

Take comfort. After Feb 5 we will be the same as you. High number of infections, similar death toll. We're already on par with NSW with our mask mandate.
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incorrect.

if my neighbours had super anxious kiddies who cried and shook with fear at the prospect of having to go to school because they were very scared.

and if my neighbours said they wear going to isolate those children and keep them at home and safe, if they were going to "chart a course" which the kids approved of, if they were going to gloat when one of my kids skinned their knee in the playground and tell me how irresponsible i was for not putting my kids safety first and foremost

i would call them out on it.

i would say to my neighbours

youre kids are going to have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life but it will be mediocre.

i'm not attacking them because i want their kids to get hurt.
i want their kids to experience all there is to experience.

your premier is acting like an over protective mother hen and it is a co dependant relationship with an anxious population.

there is nothing good about it
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Reply #857 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:00am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 5:25am:
incorrect.

if my neighbours had super anxious kiddies who cried and shook with fear at the prospect of having to go to school because they were very scared.

and if my neighbours said they wear going to isolate those children and keep them at home and safe, if they were going to "chart a course" which the kids approved of, if they were going to gloat when one of my kids skinned their knee in the playground and tell me how irresponsible i was for not putting my kids safety first and foremost

i would call them out on it.

i would say to my neighbours

youre kids are going to have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life but it will be mediocre.

i'm not attacking them because i want their kids to get hurt.
i want their kids to experience all there is to experience.

your premier is acting like an over protective mother hen and it is a co dependant relationship with an anxious population.

there is nothing good about it


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Reply #858 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:04am
 
What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend
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Reply #859 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:05am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:00am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 5:25am:
incorrect.

if my neighbours had super anxious kiddies who cried and shook with fear at the prospect of having to go to school because they were very scared.

and if my neighbours said they wear going to isolate those children and keep them at home and safe, if they were going to "chart a course" which the kids approved of, if they were going to gloat when one of my kids skinned their knee in the playground and tell me how irresponsible i was for not putting my kids safety first and foremost

i would call them out on it.

i would say to my neighbours

youre kids are going to have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life but it will be mediocre.

i'm not attacking them because i want their kids to get hurt.
i want their kids to experience all there is to experience.

your premier is acting like an over protective mother hen and it is a co dependant relationship with an anxious population.

there is nothing good about it


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Not a sermon

Sound advice on the damage that's your mother hen Premier is inflicting on the mental state of your population
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Reply #860 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:19am
 
I have to go up to our local chemist in a few hours to pick up some tablets for my elderly aunt. I only need to wear a mask after getting out of the car to go into the chemist, thank goodness.

I'll be interested to see how busy it is up at our local shops today with 39 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.

The mask mandate here is supposed to be lifted on Tuesday morning (at the earliest). Just in time for the Boxing Day sales. Maybe.

Edit: the Boxing Day sales are actually on Boxing Day, December 26th. I thought they might have been on the Tuesday holiday with Boxing Day being on a Sunday.

In that case it will be really interesting to see how busy things are on Sunday with 42 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Also, spare a thought for a lot of (especially elderly) people who can't afford to run their airconditioners (if they even have them) on the extremely hot days we have coming up here so they usually spend most of the day in shopping centres where it is cool.

Can't see them wanting to sit around all day in shopping centres with masks on, even if it is a lot cooler than staying home.
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Reply #861 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:52am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:04am:
What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend


382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.
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Reply #862 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am
 
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.
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Reply #863 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:21am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:19am:
I have to go up to our local chemist in a few hours to pick up some tablets for my elderly aunt. I only need to wear a mask after getting out of the car to go into the chemist, thank goodness.

I'll be interested to see how busy it is up at our local shops today with 39 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.

The mask mandate here is supposed to be lifted on Tuesday morning (at the earliest). Just in time for the Boxing Day sales. Maybe.

Edit: the Boxing Day sales are actually on Boxing Day, December 26th. I thought they might have been on the Tuesday holiday with Boxing Day being on a Sunday.

In that case it will be really interesting to see how busy things are on Sunday with 42 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Also, spare a thought for a lot of (especially elderly) people who can't afford to run their airconditioners (if they even have them) on the extremely hot days we have coming up here so they usually spend most of the day in shopping centres where it is cool.

Can't see them wanting to sit around all day in shopping centres with masks on, even if it is a lot cooler than staying home.


Yes, but should they not rejoice at the opportunity to sit in shopping centres and catch covid?

They should have taken Aquascoot's advice. They've had over a month since lockdown ended to hit the gyms and get in shape.

Chodes, lives of pure garbage. The evolutionary blowtorch is our friend, no?

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Reply #864 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:41am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am:
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.


Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS   Roll Eyes

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.
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Reply #865 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:41am:
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am:
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.


Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS   Roll Eyes

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.


Now now, Greggery. In three months time, Aquascoot can say he warned us of all this. Drink fresh vegetable juice, he'll say, do some star jumps, go for a run round the block. The chodes only have themselves to blame.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

You?
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Reply #866 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:33pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:41am:
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am:
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.


Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS   Roll Eyes

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.


Now now, Greggery. In three months time, Aquascoot can say he warned us of all this. Drink fresh vegetable juice, he'll say, do some star jumps, go for a run round the block. The chodes only have themselves to blame.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

You?


your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.
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Reply #867 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:10pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:33pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:41am:
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am:
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.


Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS   Roll Eyes

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.


Now now, Greggery. In three months time, Aquascoot can say he warned us of all this. Drink fresh vegetable juice, he'll say, do some star jumps, go for a run round the block. The chodes only have themselves to blame.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

You?


your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.


It may not happen overnight, Aquascoot, but it will happen.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?
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Reply #868 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:52am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:04am:
What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend


382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.

In mid September there were 1200 people in hospital, Musta Faken.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/dec/17/c...


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Reply #869 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:56pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:19am:
Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.



Wow, very busy at Belmont Forum when I went near there about an hour ago. Didn't stop and go inside, just drove along the streets around the outside of the shopping centre. The carparks that I could see were full with people driving up and down looking for a parking spot.

Probably last minute Christmas shopping despite the heat and masks. Or maybe people have started panic buying in anticipation of a lockdown after Christmas? I'm pretty sure we would already be in lockdown if it wasn't for Christmas.
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Reply #870 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:33pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:41am:
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 10:12am:
aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.


Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS   Roll Eyes

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.


Now now, Greggery. In three months time, Aquascoot can say he warned us of all this. Drink fresh vegetable juice, he'll say, do some star jumps, go for a run round the block. The chodes only have themselves to blame.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

You?


your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.


It may not happen overnight, Aquascoot, but it will happen.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?

Your elderly auntie in earlier times?

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Reply #871 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:41pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:52am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 7:04am:
What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend


382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.

In mid September there were 1200 people in hospital, Musta Faken.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/dec/17/c...




Oh, I see. Thanks, old boy.

What was the vaccination rate in mid-September? 

I'm curious.
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Reply #872 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 3:41pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 1:56pm:
Carl D wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 9:19am:
Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.



Wow, very busy at Belmont Forum when I went near there about an hour ago. Didn't stop and go inside, just drove along the streets around the outside of the shopping centre. The carparks that I could see were full with people driving up and down looking for a parking spot.

Probably last minute Christmas shopping despite the heat and masks. Or maybe people have started panic buying in anticipation of a lockdown after Christmas? I'm pretty sure we would already be in lockdown if it wasn't for Christmas.


Fascinating.  Car parks full in shopping centres.
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Reply #873 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:22am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 5:25am:
incorrect.

if my neighbours had super anxious kiddies who cried and shook with fear at the prospect of having to go to school because they were very scared.

and if my neighbours said they wear going to isolate those children and keep them at home and safe, if they were going to "chart a course" which the kids approved of, if they were going to gloat when one of my kids skinned their knee in the playground and tell me how irresponsible i was for not putting my kids safety first and foremost

i would call them out on it.

i would say to my neighbours

youre kids are going to have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life but it will be mediocre.

i'm not attacking them because i want their kids to get hurt.
i want their kids to experience all there is to experience.

your premier is acting like an over protective mother hen and it is a co dependant relationship with an anxious population.

there is nothing good about it


First up, Raven calls b.ullshit on you telling parents how to raise their children.

Secondly, how very condescending of you, referring to us as children.

We're not "super anxious" we always knew COVID was going to get to WA. Infact it's here now.

Saying we have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life is a sad indictment on your mindset.

Trying to frame the argument as WA being scared children hiding is negated by the fact that we are reopening.

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Reply #874 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:54am
 
Now, we know vaccination is not that great at all. No brain politicians only believed vaccination and took no prevention steps 2 days ago. It has given  disastrous COVID-19 consequence to Australia national wide except WA.

Even it's low death rate, people sick and isolation will still cost a lots in economy.
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Reply #875 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:54pm
 
McGowan will be tested in the coming days after shutting xmas down is his state, no cricket no travel no parties and mandatory masks and 3rd jab with no notice.
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Reply #876 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 10:15pm
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:54am:
Now, we know vaccination is not that great at all. No brain politicians only believed vaccination and took no prevention steps 2 days ago. .


The no brain sheeple believed the no brain politicians on anything with vaccine. The sheeple don't think their politicians tell lies.

No we have advice the vaccine loses effectiveness after 10 weeks with Omicron so the sheeple will be lining up for 5 booster shots a year.
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Reply #877 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 10:25pm
 
With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.
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Reply #878 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 7:15am
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 10:25pm:
With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.


Well, hardly anyone bothered getting tested yesterday (Christmas Day + 43 degree heat) and I couldn't really blame them. 2 new cases reported.

Can't see too many getting tested today either with the Boxing Day sales on and 44 degrees forecast.

And, while it was disappointing for the passengers involved (especially at Christmas) I just have to point out the irony here:

Airport chaos as dozens of flights cancelled on Christmas Eve

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Thousands of travellers have been dealt a huge blow after Jetstar cancelled dozens of Christmas Eve flights across the country.

More than two dozen flights were pulled from their domestic schedules on Friday, with popular routes heavily impacted, throwing plans into disarray.

Jetstar confirmed flights have had to be cancelled because frontline staff have needed to get tested and isolate as close contacts.

At least 14 Jetstar and Qantas flights between Sydney and Melbourne have been removed on Friday.

Ten Qantas and Jetstar flights between Sydney and Brisbane have been axed, while four flights between Sydney and the Gold Coast were cancelled.

A Virgin Australia spokesperson confirmed while no flights were cancelled on Friday, schedule changes had been made throughout the week.


Same thing has been happening worldwide.

As I said... I had to point out the irony because the airlines were one of the main businesses pushing for borders to be reopened regardless of Covid, even if ‘some people may die’ in one particular case.

I don't usually believe in Karma but its nice to think that's what is happening to the airlines here.






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Reply #879 - Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm
 
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.
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Reply #880 - Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:46pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 7:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 10:25pm:
With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.


Well, hardly anyone bothered getting tested yesterday (Christmas Day + 43 degree heat) and I couldn't really blame them. 2 new cases reported.

Can't see too many getting tested today either with the Boxing Day sales on and 44 degrees forecast.

And, while it was disappointing for the passengers involved (especially at Christmas) I just have to point out the irony here:

Airport chaos as dozens of flights cancelled on Christmas Eve

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Thousands of travellers have been dealt a huge blow after Jetstar cancelled dozens of Christmas Eve flights across the country.

More than two dozen flights were pulled from their domestic schedules on Friday, with popular routes heavily impacted, throwing plans into disarray.

Jetstar confirmed flights have had to be cancelled because frontline staff have needed to get tested and isolate as close contacts.

At least 14 Jetstar and Qantas flights between Sydney and Melbourne have been removed on Friday.

Ten Qantas and Jetstar flights between Sydney and Brisbane have been axed, while four flights between Sydney and the Gold Coast were cancelled.

A Virgin Australia spokesperson confirmed while no flights were cancelled on Friday, schedule changes had been made throughout the week.


Same thing has been happening worldwide.

As I said... I had to point out the irony because the airlines were one of the main businesses pushing for borders to be reopened regardless of Covid, even if ‘some people may die’ in one particular case.

I don't usually believe in Karma but its nice to think that's what is happening to the airlines here.









lol


airlines save people from dying you silly billy.

and they save young healthy people .

when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly




The official death toll for the September 11 attacks stands at 2,996, including the 19 hijackers, but research suggests that there is a further, indirect toll as a result of behavioural changes induced by fear.

In the months after the 2001 terror attacks, passenger miles on the main US airlines fell by between 12% and 20%, while road use jumped.

The change is widely believed to have been caused by concerned passengers opting to drive rather than fly. Travelling long distances by car is more dangerous than travelling the same distance by plane.

Measuring the exact effect is complex because there is no way of knowing for sure what the trends in road travel would have been had 9/11 not happened. However, Professor Gerd Gigerenzer, a German academic specialising in risk, has estimated that an extra 1,595 Americans died in car accidents in the year after the attacks – indirect victims of the tragedy.


it is vital to reopen airlines to save lives.

as you are well aware.

"you cant put a price on a human life"

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Reply #881 - Dec 27th, 2021 at 10:09pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 8:46pm:
lol

airlines save people from dying you silly billy.

and they save young healthy people .

when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly



lol
lol
lol

and lol x 10 again...

Airlines are responsible for spreading Covid around the entire globe.

Same as they are responsible for spreading the flu around the globe every year since international air travel began.

And, they're also responsible for the Covid outbreaks in the previously Covid free Australian States of Queensland, South Australia and Tasmania. Aided and abetted by their idiot Premiers, of course (Frank, please take note - I'm including a LABOR Premier in there).

Do you think Covid and the flu grow wings and fly from continent to continent and State to State here in Australia by themselves?

How do you think Omicron has now become the dominant Covid strain around the entire world in less than 2 months?

Anyway, let's have another look at this 'classic' (after I've picked myself up off the floor where I was rolling around in fits of laughter):

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when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly


Yeah, especially if you need to travel from say, Australia to the United States or the United Kingdom. Make sure you pack your scuba gear, for starters.  Roll Eyes

There's definitely a "Silly Billy" here and I'm pretty sure it isn't ME.
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Reply #882 - Dec 27th, 2021 at 10:28pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


One really has to wonder what's going on with our idiot politicians including Mark McGowan (Frank, I'm criticizing another LABOR Premier here, that's 2 in 2 posts... yay for me!) when Mark is making everyone wear masks for another week in the stifling heat we're having here at the moment and also causing the cancellation of New Years Eve events because of ONE CASE when he's still planning to make the same mistakes the other States have made after he opens everything up at 12:01 AM (12:01...lol... and not one second before, I'll bet... typical government idiocy) on February 5th and 'let it rip'.
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Reply #883 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 5:37am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 10:28pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


One really has to wonder what's going on with our idiot politicians including Mark McGowan (Frank, I'm criticizing another LABOR Premier here, that's 2 in 2 posts... yay for me!) when Mark is making everyone wear masks for another week in the stifling heat we're having here at the moment and also causing the cancellation of New Years Eve events because of ONE CASE when he's still planning to make the same mistakes the other States have made after he opens everything up at 12:01 AM (12:01...lol... and not one second before, I'll bet... typical government idiocy) on February 5th and 'let it rip'.



mark should tell you to bounce out of bed , put on your running shoes and commence the marathon.

south africa is kicking back with a beer
hospitals coped no worries.

mark knows that western australians dont want to do the brutal miles , so he is letting you all have a sleep in.

of course , each day he waits, your immunity drops.

its a non fruitful path but the chode rarely thinks about anything but instant gratification
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Reply #884 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:57am
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption   Roll Eyes
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Reply #885 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:57am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 5:37am:
mark should tell you to bounce out of bed , put on your running shoes and commence the marathon.

south africa is kicking back with a beer
hospitals coped no worries.

mark knows that western australians dont want to do the brutal miles , so he is letting you all have a sleep in.

of course , each day he waits, your immunity drops.

its a non fruitful path but the chode rarely thinks about anything but instant gratification


I have to admit Mark is a bit on the boring side.

All his social media team ever posts on 'his' Twitter account are daily Covid reports almost every day since the start of the pandemic.

I also have to wonder if Mark and his 'team' have shares in Facebook seeing as you need to have a Facebook account to read the information in the FB links they post?

That's a big 'get stuffed' from me, by the way.

On the other side of the country I notice Annastacia's team in Queensland now has daily warm, fuzzy feel good stories about her garden and pets, endless 'thank yous' etc, etc. which are an obvious attempt at deflection from her incompetence with allowing Covid into Queensland when it was Covid free for so long. Just like South Australia and Tasmania have done.

I'm also expecting a flood of 'feel good stories' from Mark's social media team after February 5th when Covid starts spreading though Perth's population (if it isn't already thanks to our backpacker 'friend') and we're expected to wear masks for eternity and have other previously unnecessary restrictions to deal with as well.

A pox on the lot of them.

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Morning, Greg - good to see you've also survived the weather we've had here since Christmas Day.

I've had a running battle with trying to save my front and back gardens from being burnt to a crisp and I'm expecting a big increase in my next water bill.
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NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has repeatedly criticised the Palaszczuk government’s position and escalated his attack on Monday.

This is passive aggressive stupidity from the Queensland Premier at her worst. Getting rid of PCRs for tourism testing is absolutely critical so there can be a focus on the clinical needs of patients at risk,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

“South Australia has seen the light and someone needs to switch on the lights in the Queensland Premier‘s office.”

He claimed there could “easily be another 100,000 to 150,000 tests purely and simply for people who want to holiday in Queensland” before the end of the year.

Mr Hazzard, who has been urging NSW residents only to get PCR tests if they have coronavirus symptoms, on Sunday accused Ms Palaszczuk of “effectively perverting the purposes of pathology testing”.

His comments follow days of disagreement between the two states as the demand for testing in Sydney and regional NSW continues to exceed capacity.
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Yep, that's what it was all about in Queensland when Annastacia decided to let Covid loose there - tourism $$$

Australians caught up in testing bungles speak out, Qld tourism testing sucking 'energy' out of NSW

Frustration and heartbreak as COVID-19 testing delays force some to spend holidays alone

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Nationwide delays in releasing COVID-19 results have upturned many Australians' holiday plans.

Some people have waited up to six days for test results, while others have been given negative tests clearing them to mix with family and friends, only to then be told they are actually positive.


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New South Wales Health Minister Brad Hazzard has slammed Queensland's requirement for incoming travellers to get tested for COVID-19, saying it is putting unnecessary stress on his state's testing capacity.

Queensland is one of three open states that require tests to enter, and the requirement for travellers to produce a negative PCR test will not be reconsidered until January 1.

"The focus should be only on clinical testing. The energy and capacity of pathology is being sucked out of New South Wales," Mr Hazzard said.

"Over the next four days we could have up to 600,000 tests and a quarter of those will be purely and simply for tourism to Queensland."


I'm off to grab a few bags of popcorn... there's nothing quite as entertaining as watching State Premiers 'battle it out'.

Especially when one is Liberal and the other Labor. Cool
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Reply #890 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 9:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:57am:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption   Roll Eyes


If there's one thing I've learned since the start of the pandemic its that Covid doesn't attend sporting events or infect any of the players and spectators... like the AFL, NRL, cricket, tennis and horse racing (the Melbourne Cup back in November).

Mind you, I'm sure Covid is smart enough (its definitely smart enough to keep outwitting our stupid pollies and big business leaders) not to bother attending what is no doubt one of the most pointless and boring events on the social calendar here in Perth... the Perth Cup which will probably be held in stifling heat as usual - spare a thought for the poor horses.

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Reply #891 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 9:31am
 
Quite a few of us here in Perth might be asking Mark McGowan the same question after February 5th.

I'm pretty sure low income families especially won't have the money to spend on a weekly mask supply. More than likely they will keep using the same masks week after week which will no doubt do wonders for their overall health. Not.
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Reply #892 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:14am
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 8:00am:
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Morning, Greg - good to see you've also survived the weather we've had here since Christmas Day.

I've had a running battle with trying to save my front and back gardens from being burnt to a crisp and I'm expecting a big increase in my next water bill.


I haven't moved from the house.

Aircon has been on 24/7.

Was 46 here on Christmas Day.
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Front page of today's West Australian has Mark McGowan telling us masks will probably be here to stay after February 5th.

Why? If you're going to make the same stupid mistakes South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania have made then what's the point?

I thought we were supposed to have a Safe Transition Plan for February 5th?

Doesn't seem too safe to me when the first thing I see is:

Quote:
...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.


Our way of life doesn't include having to wear masks or have any other restrictions except for the past week since that idiot backpacker decided to do a Covid tour of Perth lasting over a week (the last 2 or 3 days were even after he began to feel sick).

And, Marky Mark goes on to say that masks have been highly effective in stopping the spread of Covid in the eastern States. Really? I think its about time you took off those rose coloured glasses and had a good look at what's happening over there.

Well, I still admire Mark to a certain degree for resisting the pressure from Scotty from Marketing and businesses to open up for as long as he has.

I'll be sitting back from the safety of my home after February 5th (as I'm sure many will be doing instead of being out and about spending money) when a lot of these same businesses that pushed for reopening then start complaining they've lost customers and they'll have to close or severely restrict their opening hours. Just like what's been happening in the other States.

I'll have my popcorn standing by ready to enjoy the show.

Oh... and a special congratulations are in order to Queensland today for joining the quadruple digit club.

Hope you're paying attention, Marky Mark.
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Reply #894 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 2:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:57am:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption   Roll Eyes


Ah, the Noble Man, punting on his GGs on the "narrow road to success".

Unless he loses, then it's the highway to chodedom, those with dicks wider than they're long.

Either/or, no?
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First we have...

‘Get tested’: WA Premier Mark McGowan’s blunt message to close contacts

Then we have...

Close contacts of French backpacker stifle WA trace efforts by turning off phones

(Subscriber only article as usual but the 'headline' tells the story)

Carl's solution: If they're also backpackers here on visas then fine them, cancel their visas and deport them. Immediately.

If they're citizens or permanent residents of Australia then it should be a big fine and/or jail time.

Time to stop 'pussy footing' around and start making a real example of some of these selfish idiots.
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Reply #896 - Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:46pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 2:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 7:57am:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 27th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.


He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption   Roll Eyes


Ah, the Noble Man, punting on his GGs on the "narrow road to success".

Unless he loses, then it's the highway to chodedom, those with dicks wider than they're long.

Either/or, no?


a tragedy is currently unfolding in perth.

their top jockey, William Pike has refused to be vaccinated.

i will shoot him thru an email.

he is right not to trust politicians but he may trust a fellow horseman
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Send him your booster, Aquascoot, that might do it.

He'll need it. He feeds his horse a bowl of hay a day.
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he wont have it currently.

i sent him an email saying
you cant fight city hall and that the best way to beat the chodes in the bureaucracy would be to get the vax, earn millions of dollars, buy a SUV, get a hot girlfriend and then splash muddy water all over the fat public servants who make these rules.

hopefully william will reconsider.

the superior man will face many obstacles

being a little cry baby and a quitter is not the path of the superior man

the superior man will sleep on it, develop a plan and bounce out of bed and implement that plan.

thus , all adversity, all haters, all critics, all complaining family and jealous chode friends are merely used as fuel to inspire action.

haters provide the emotional juice to propel you onto glory.

fat public servant beauraeucrats serve as the fuel on this journey
the heroes path.

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Frank wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 8:01am:
NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has repeatedly criticised the Palaszczuk government’s position and escalated his attack on Monday.

This is passive aggressive stupidity from the Queensland Premier at her worst. Getting rid of PCRs for tourism testing is absolutely critical so there can be a focus on the clinical needs of patients at risk,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

“South Australia has seen the light and someone needs to switch on the lights in the Queensland Premier‘s office.”

He claimed there could “easily be another 100,000 to 150,000 tests purely and simply for people who want to holiday in Queensland” before the end of the year.

Mr Hazzard, who has been urging NSW residents only to get PCR tests if they have coronavirus symptoms, on Sunday accused Ms Palaszczuk of “effectively perverting the purposes of pathology testing”.

His comments follow days of disagreement between the two states as the demand for testing in Sydney and regional NSW continues to exceed capacity.

 
Brad Hazzard has a hide to criticise anyone least of all Anna Palaszczuk .

He & Kerry Chant & Gladys Bignose let Covid loose on the Nation ....

they did nothing but let it run rampant in NSW until they were forced to implement border closures & the same restrictions as other states.

Too little too late.

Now they & all the Federal Tory(LNP) politicians want to infect all of QLD with their escaping Covid lepers .....

and see the state slowly shut down business by business(by stealth)..

instead of all at once & short term with previous lockdowns to prevent it running rampant....

the end result will be the same as what you have been complaining about ....

are you too thick to see that?
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Carl D wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 12:19pm:
Front page of today's West Australian has Mark McGowan telling us masks will probably be here to stay after February 5th.

Why? If you're going to make the same stupid mistakes South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania have made then what's the point?

I thought we were supposed to have a Safe Transition Plan for February 5th?

Doesn't seem too safe to me when the first thing I see is:

Quote:
...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.


Our way of life doesn't include having to wear masks or have any other restrictions except for the past week since that idiot backpacker decided to do a Covid tour of Perth lasting over a week (the last 2 or 3 days were even after he began to feel sick).

And, Marky Mark goes on to say that masks have been highly effective in stopping the spread of Covid in the eastern States. Really? I think its about time you took off those rose coloured glasses and had a good look at what's happening over there.

Well, I still admire Mark to a certain degree for resisting the pressure from Scotty from Marketing and businesses to open up for as long as he has.

I'll be sitting back from the safety of my home after February 5th (as I'm sure many will be doing instead of being out and about spending money) when a lot of these same businesses that pushed for reopening then start complaining they've lost customers and they'll have to close or severely restrict their opening hours. Just like what's been happening in the other States.

I'll have my popcorn standing by ready to enjoy the show.

Oh... and a special congratulations are in order to Queensland today for joining the quadruple digit club.

Hope you're paying attention, Marky Mark.

 
Stupid mistakes because of the whinging business sector & people like Scoot et al.

Now the idiots are whining because they are being shut down one by one as staff and patrons test positive.

Serves the bastards right.

The same thing will happen in WA.

And yes it is quite reasonable for you to ask why were all the restrictions enforced in the first place ... all that has been a wasted exercise now.

But for a time we QLDers were a lot more free & relaxed than the 2 states that think they're the only ones of importance.
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Reply #903 - Dec 29th, 2021 at 2:30pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 7:06am:
 
Stupid mistakes because of the whinging business sector & people like Scoot et al.

Now the idiots are whining because they are being shut down one by one as staff and patrons test positive.

Serves the bastards right.

The same thing will happen in WA.

And yes it is quite reasonable for you to ask why were all the restrictions enforced in the first place ... all that has been a wasted exercise now.

But for a time we QLDers were a lot more free & relaxed than the 2 states that think they're the only ones of importance.


We already have a lot of anger brewing here over New Years Eve cancellations despite no new Covid cases being reported yesterday.

But, the Perth Cup isn't being cancelled, of course.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-28/wa-events-industry-laments-covid-19-rules...

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After almost two years of last-minute cancellations, strict COVID-19 rules and a lack of overseas talent, Western Australia's events industry had been hoping this New Year's Eve would be the start of its recovery.

But those hopes were dashed by the state government's announcement that coronavirus restrictions would continue until at least January 4, in part due to low testing rates.

While Ascot Racecourse will be allowed to welcome crowds for the Perth Cup on January 1, New Year's Eve events that were expected to host thousands of revellers — including music festivals — have been canned.


But, I'm sure Mark McGowan will keep us all safe here in WA until exactly 12:01am on February 5th when Covid will be allowed to cause the same chaos here as it is causing in the other States.

No doubt all the little Covid viruses have set their microscopic alarm clocks for the 'big day' in February already and are raring to go 'on the dot' at 12:01am.
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Carl D wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 2:30pm:
But, the Perth Cup isn't being cancelled, of course.



Of course not.

Mark's not gonna take on organised crime syndicates.

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Gnads wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 7:06am:
Carl D wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 12:19pm:
Front page of today's West Australian has Mark McGowan telling us masks will probably be here to stay after February 5th.

Why? If you're going to make the same stupid mistakes South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania have made then what's the point?

I thought we were supposed to have a Safe Transition Plan for February 5th?

Doesn't seem too safe to me when the first thing I see is:

Quote:
...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.


Our way of life doesn't include having to wear masks or have any other restrictions except for the past week since that idiot backpacker decided to do a Covid tour of Perth lasting over a week (the last 2 or 3 days were even after he began to feel sick).

And, Marky Mark goes on to say that masks have been highly effective in stopping the spread of Covid in the eastern States. Really? I think its about time you took off those rose coloured glasses and had a good look at what's happening over there.

Well, I still admire Mark to a certain degree for resisting the pressure from Scotty from Marketing and businesses to open up for as long as he has.

I'll be sitting back from the safety of my home after February 5th (as I'm sure many will be doing instead of being out and about spending money) when a lot of these same businesses that pushed for reopening then start complaining they've lost customers and they'll have to close or severely restrict their opening hours. Just like what's been happening in the other States.

I'll have my popcorn standing by ready to enjoy the show.

Oh... and a special congratulations are in order to Queensland today for joining the quadruple digit club.

Hope you're paying attention, Marky Mark.

 
Stupid mistakes because of the whinging business sector & people like Scoot et al.

Now the idiots are whining because they are being shut down one by one as staff and patrons test positive.

Serves the bastards right.

The same thing will happen in WA.

And yes it is quite reasonable for you to ask why were all the restrictions enforced in the first place ... all that has been a wasted exercise now.

But for a time we QLDers were a lot more free & relaxed than the 2 states that think they're the only ones of importance.


You let us in. What did you expect us to do? Mask up and self-isolate?

Come come. We NSWers ran around Queensland coughing on everybody and infecting you. Remember, you people asked for it.

Ask Aquascoot.
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It's official;
Of the 11 random people at my local IGA all taking part in the pop-up check-out survey, 7 were in favour of keeping WA borders permanently shut and just 4 were against Lol.
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goosecat wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 4:58pm:
It's official;
Of the 11 random people at my local IGA all taking part in the pop-up check-out survey, 7 were in favour of keeping WA borders permanently shut and just 4 were against Lol.

 

awesome people arent filling out surveys in IGA's

they are too busy being awesome

sampling bias
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its official

i surveyed 11 people at my local gym and they were all in favour of letting it rip
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More non-awesome people, including yourself apparently lol.
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goosecat wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 6:23pm:
More non-awesome people, including yourself apparently lol.



the first part of your sentence is certainly true

most people spend their time durping around.
they bounce out of bed and their entire aim is to be stimulated as much as possible and remain as safe as possible whilst doing so.


porn, sweet and fatty foods , gaming, netflix and alcohol are the easiest way to be safely stimulated and so thats their life.

the life of pure garbage.

maybe you think becoming a fat , porn addicted, cry baby who wallows in self pity and wants an authority figure to keep him "safe' is a meaningful existence

i dont.

but i acknowledge thats how most people live their lives.

they dont really live them

they just exist and seek out ways to distract themselves, stimulate themselves and remain safe
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 6:29pm:
maybe you think becoming a fat , porn addicted, cry baby who wallows in self pity and wants an authority figure to keep him "safe' is a meaningful existence



Well, this guy sure did:

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aquascoot wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 6:03pm:
its official

i surveyed 11 people at my local gym and they were all in favour of letting it rip


80% of them had strong authoritarian tendencies, which will of course emerge under the right conditions.

Read your Zuby. That's four times the national average, no?
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Reply #913 - Dec 29th, 2021 at 11:18pm
 
Mark McGowan said recently that only something like an "emergency" would cause a delay in WA reopening on February 5th.

Well, I'd have to say the current "emergency" (unfolding disaster, actually) in the eastern States should qualify as a reason to keep WA's borders closed.

Here's hoping.
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Reply #914 - Dec 31st, 2021 at 12:05pm
 
Dear media - please stop normalising neurotics who are going to spend the rest of their lives in a self-imposed lockdown, hiding from a virus against which they are vaccinated. Please instead consider referring them to mental health services. I am respectfully begging you.

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Reply #915 - Dec 31st, 2021 at 12:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 6:29pm:
i acknowledge thats how most people live their lives.

they just exist and seek out ways to distract themselves, stimulate themselves and remain safe

As you admit, the instinct of nearly every human who has ever lived - where they have the wherewithal to do so.
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Reply #916 - Dec 31st, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 29th, 2021 at 11:18pm:
Mark McGowan said recently that only something like an "emergency" would cause a delay in WA reopening on February 5th.

Well, I'd have to say the current "emergency" (unfolding disaster, actually) in the eastern States should qualify as a reason to keep WA's borders closed.

Here's hoping.


Agreed.

And Mark gets to determine what an emergency is, so he very clever in using that terminology.

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Reply #917 - Dec 31st, 2021 at 4:56pm
 
Covid is coming to get you lot out West, make no mistake.

It's Marks final defiant last stand, Feb the 5th or bust.

New years has been shut down and all interstate visitors and festivities are no longer allowed in WA because of that one filthy disease carrying back packer.
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Reply #918 - Dec 31st, 2021 at 5:16pm
 
Ted Cruz confuses Washington state with Western Australia in attack on Covid ‘kill-joys’

The US Republican mistook a Facebook post by the Australian state on New Year’s Eve party restrictions for an edict by the Democrat-run state

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US senator Ted Cruz has been ridiculed for posting a tweet in which he mixed up the American state of Washington with Western Australia while criticising Covid restrictions.

The Republican politician – who tried to win the party’s presidential nomination in 2016 – retweeted a post by the government of Western Australia, whose handle is WA Government – that appeared to advise a woman that dancing would not permitted at a New Year’s Eve party at her home.


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US senator Ted Cruz has been ridiculed for posting a tweet in which he mixed up the American state of Washington with Western Australia while criticising Covid restrictions.

The Republican politician – who tried to win the party’s presidential nomination in 2016 – retweeted a post by the government of Western Australia, whose handle is WA Government – that appeared to advise a woman that dancing would not permitted at a New Year’s Eve party at her home.


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A lot of Americans also don't know the difference between Australia and Austria from what we've seen over the years.

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Reply #919 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:18am
 
The selfishness and stupidity continues...

The George COVID rules breach as 300 party the night away on NYE

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About 300 party-goers are understood to have breached New Year’s Eve COVID rules by partying the night away at Perth’s The George.

It’s understood police stumbled across the party while patrolling the Perth CBD last night.

The West Australian understands police will now launch a major investigation into the incident which has set off alarm bells given the new outbreak of COVID-19 in Perth.

Police attended The George as part of a routine inspection around 11.30pm on New Year’s Eve and found the doors locked and the windows blocked out.

Officers could not get in through the front door and so scaled the wall to get inside where they will allege they found “several hundred” people attending a private, ticketed event.

Police Commissioner Chris Dawson said he had seen vision of many of the guests flouting mask-wearing rules and dancing, with evidence SafeWA QR code posters had been ripped off the walls.


So, no excuses then... can't say they didn't know because it was obviously deliberate.

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Let's hope so.


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Reply #921 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:28am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:18am:
The selfishness and stupidity continues...

The George COVID rules breach as 300 party the night away on NYE

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About 300 party-goers are understood to have breached New Year’s Eve COVID rules by partying the night away at Perth’s The George.

It’s understood police stumbled across the party while patrolling the Perth CBD last night.

The West Australian understands police will now launch a major investigation into the incident which has set off alarm bells given the new outbreak of COVID-19 in Perth.

Police attended The George as part of a routine inspection around 11.30pm on New Year’s Eve and found the doors locked and the windows blocked out.

Officers could not get in through the front door and so scaled the wall to get inside where they will allege they found “several hundred” people attending a private, ticketed event.

Police Commissioner Chris Dawson said he had seen vision of many of the guests flouting mask-wearing rules and dancing, with evidence SafeWA QR code posters had been ripped off the walls.


So, no excuses then... can't say they didn't know because it was obviously deliberate.

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Mr Dawson slammed the venue for its “blatant disregard” and of the COVID restrictions and warned the operators of The George faced fines of up to $250,000 and losing their liquor license over their “selfish behaviour”.


Let's hope so.




Let's hope they all get the book thrown at them.

I know the room they partied in quite well.

I've attended many functions there - it's right out the back of the building, hidden away.

Pity, it's a good pub, but I hope they get shut down for this.
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Reply #922 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:45am
 
Cry Cry Cry

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry

Punish!!!  PUNISH!! 

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)
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Reply #923 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:50am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:45am:
Cry Cry Cry

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry

Punish!!!  PUNISH!! 

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)


Exactly.

Own goal.
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Reply #924 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:50am:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:45am:
Cry Cry Cry

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry

Punish!!!  PUNISH!! 

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)


Exactly.

Own goal.

Cheesy


You dickheaddles were boasting how normal your lives were in WA.  But now you are baying for punishment for dancing even as you have an average of 4 cases a day in a state of 2.6 million.

Your are out of your minds (no news there).



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Reply #925 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:50am:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:45am:
Cry Cry Cry

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry

Punish!!!  PUNISH!! 

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)


Exactly.

Own goal.

Cheesy


You dickheaddles were boasting how normal your lives were in WA.  But now you are baying for punishment for dancing even as you have an average of 4 cases a day in a state of 2.6 million.

Your are out of your minds (no news there).






indeed frank.

actually they are hypnotised.

how do you hypnotise someone?

you get them to focus on one thing, put all their attention on it


covid, covid, covid covid covid.

then you use a repetititve monotone to induce a durr state

keep you safe, keep you safe, keep you safe.

after 2 years of focus on one word and 2 years of monotonous repitition of catchphrases, they are now puppets.

its really not their fault.

they are just easily hypnotised and too lazy to think for themselves

safety safety safety

keep the community safe


from a cold virus  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #926 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 3:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:50am:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 9:45am:
Cry Cry Cry

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!!  Angry Angry  Cry Cry

Punish!!!  PUNISH!! 

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)


Exactly.

Own goal.

Cheesy


You dickheaddles were boasting how normal your lives were in WA. 




They were, and still are.

Hardly any cases of COVID, and all we do is wear a mask inside.

Life is good   Smiley
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Reply #927 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 3:26pm
 
As insane as WA

Walking your dog is no longer an exception to Quebec's curfew
However, the provincial government indicated it would again permit dog walking as soon possible.


https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/walking-your-dog-is-no-longer-an-exc...

Other idiotic Australian states also limited time spent outdoors - until they did a complete about-face and encouraged time outdoors.

It's about pandering to the gweggys and Carls, the hyponotised brown shirts (and browned pants) of society.

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Reply #928 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:33pm
 
I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.
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Reply #929 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:20pm
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:
I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.


China is the biggest customer would they be fuxked as well if production is slowed or stopped?


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I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #931 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:
from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome Grin Grin Grin


Seriously, what sort of 'reality' are you living in? Come on, tell us... we'd really like to know.

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With the Omicron variant fuelling a rapidly rising COVID wave across Australia, healthcare services are already being overwhelmed. One of the most critical indications is extensive ambulance response delays and understaffing.


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In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.


aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.


Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.
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Reply #933 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:35pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:
I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



What's outrageous is the owners of The George and the customers blatantly ignored public health orders and possibly endangered the entire community.

Can't say they didn't know because the cancellation of these type of New Years Eve events, compulsory masks required and no dancing were well publicised last week and the fact that the owners took down the SafeWA QR code posters and blacked out the windows to hopefully avoid attracting attention means they knew exactly what they were doing.

Not wearing masks and dancing also means the customers also knew what they were doing was in breach of public health orders.

Throw the book at the lot of them, I say.


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Reply #934 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:40pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:
I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



What's outrageous is the owners of The George and the customers blatantly ignored public health orders and possibly endangered the entire community.

Can't say they didn't know because the cancellation of these type of New Years Eve events, compulsory masks required and no dancing were well publicised last week and the fact that the owners took down the SafeWA QR code posters and blacked out the windows to hopefully avoid attracting attention means they knew exactly what they were doing.

Not wearing masks and dancing also means the customers also knew what they were doing was in breach of public health orders.

Throw the book at the lot of them, I say.




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Reply #935 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:29pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:
I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



What's outrageous is the owners of The George and the customers blatantly ignored public health orders and possibly endangered the entire community.

Can't say they didn't know because the cancellation of these type of New Years Eve events, compulsory masks required and no dancing were well publicised last week and the fact that the owners took down the SafeWA QR code posters and blacked out the windows to hopefully avoid attracting attention means they knew exactly what they were doing.

Not wearing masks and dancing also means the customers also knew what they were doing was in breach of public health orders.

Throw the book at the lot of them, I say.




Absolutely.

The maximum fines should apply to the selfish individuals, and the pub (although I like to drink & eat there often) should lose its liquor licence.

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Reply #936 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 5:54am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:
from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome Grin Grin Grin


Seriously, what sort of 'reality' are you living in? Come on, tell us... we'd really like to know.

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With the Omicron variant fuelling a rapidly rising COVID wave across Australia, healthcare services are already being overwhelmed. One of the most critical indications is extensive ambulance response delays and understaffing.


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In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.


aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:
I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.


Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.



ambulance services are overwhelmed because of people lhave been terrified by the catastrophising main stream media who love a crisis

people like gordon who are sensible, have panadol, vit d and zinc and take "personal responsibility" for their health.

rather then ring an mbulance and screech about "me,me,me"
they take a few panadol and then go mow the lawn.

i have no doubt that 50 % of tyhe australian population have lost the ability to take on ANY personal responsibility for their health (one only has to look at the 70 % overweight statistic) and at the first sign of a runny nose or sore throat will dial 000.

its going to cost lives because they will clog up the system with their hypochondria and prevent "real' cases getting thru.


we need to educate people NOT to call an ambulance the moment they get a positive test
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Reply #937 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:17am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:
I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



You anti everything tools always play the lowest common denominator trying to score a point.

They weren't being "punished" for dancing ...

they were being punished for ignoring the Covid regulations of 1."limited numbers" in an enclosed area indoors and 2. Not wearing face masks when they can't social distance(dancing) indoors.

No regard for anyone else in the community... just self indulgent arseholes.
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Reply #938 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:21am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:
from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome Grin Grin Grin


Seriously, what sort of 'reality' are you living in? Come on, tell us... we'd really like to know.

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With the Omicron variant fuelling a rapidly rising COVID wave across Australia, healthcare services are already being overwhelmed. One of the most critical indications is extensive ambulance response delays and understaffing.


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In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.


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I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.


Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.

 
Again utter BS ...... there have been ramping issues going on around the country & you well know it was going on in QLD well before Covid ...

and it has got worse with COVID.

Do you ever tire of making up BS just to make a post about wishing COVID on the community & especially our most vulnerable?
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Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:
I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in.  Grin

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



What's outrageous is the owners of The George and the customers blatantly ignored public health orders and possibly endangered the entire community.

Can't say they didn't know because the cancellation of these type of New Years Eve events, compulsory masks required and no dancing were well publicised last week and the fact that the owners took down the SafeWA QR code posters and blacked out the windows to hopefully avoid attracting attention means they knew exactly what they were doing.

Not wearing masks and dancing also means the customers also knew what they were doing was in breach of public health orders.

Throw the book at the lot of them, I say.




send them to the Russian Front

 
I'd say that's what should happen to you - spreading all misinformed tripe that you peddle ad infinitum.
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Reply #940 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:30am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 5:54am:
Carl D wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:
from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome Grin Grin Grin


Seriously, what sort of 'reality' are you living in? Come on, tell us... we'd really like to know.

Ambulance services buckling as COVID-19 surges in Australia

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With the Omicron variant fuelling a rapidly rising COVID wave across Australia, healthcare services are already being overwhelmed. One of the most critical indications is extensive ambulance response delays and understaffing.


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In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.


aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:
I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.


Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.



ambulance services are overwhelmed because of people lhave been terrified by the catastrophising main stream media who love a crisis

people like gordon who are sensible, have panadol, vit d and zinc and take "personal responsibility" for their health.

rather then ring an mbulance and screech about "me,me,me"
they take a few panadol and then go mow the lawn.

i have no doubt that 50 % of tyhe australian population have lost the ability to take on ANY personal responsibility for their health (one only has to look at the 70 % overweight statistic) and at the first sign of a runny nose or sore throat will dial 000.

its going to cost lives because they will clog up the system with their hypochondria and prevent "real' cases getting thru.


we need to educate people NOT to call an ambulance the moment they get a positive test


Not very observant of you ... his pic had a photo of a box of Aspirin.

And you need to take care with that because it can cause stomach problems & a few other side effects.

It's recommended it only be used under doctors direction and for cardiac problems only.

Not COVID.
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Follow the science, Carl, Dr Aqua is right. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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Vigorous exercise should be used to treat people with severe anxiety, a study suggests.


Researchers found that patients who took part in a 12-week group exercise program with different intensities of activity experienced a reduction in their anxiety symptoms.

Malin Henriksson, a doctoral student at Gothenburg University and one of the researchers, said: “There was a significant intensity trend for improvement — that is the more intensely they exercised, the more their anxiety symptoms improved.”

The paper, published in the Journal of Affective Disorders, concluded: “Exercise has few side effects, is inexpensive and overall beneficial for general somatic health.”
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Reply #942 - Jan 5th, 2022 at 6:25pm
 
A few observations after spending about 2 hours at Belmont Forum today.

1. I lost count of how many people I saw walking around wearing masks under their noses, under their chins or not wearing one at all (and no-one, not even security did anything about it).

2. Places selling takeaway drinks must be making a fortune lately judging by the number of people I saw with a takeaway coffee or cold drink seemingly permanently attached to their hands (and their masks permanently under their chins or no sign of a mask whatsoever) while they walked around the centre.

3. I'm pretty sure that walking around the shopping centre with your mobile phone glued to your ear and talking doesn't qualify as an exemption to keep your mask under your chin or have no mask at all.

4. The SafeWA app or pen and paper register may as well not exist as far as a lot of people are concerned. Same goes for social distancing. And, no-one bothers to check that people are complying, of course.

5. It seems to be getting close to the point where the number of 'abandoned' masks in the shopping centre carparks (tossed on the ground as people get into their cars) will soon equal or exceed the number of empty shopping trolleys left lying around (too lazy to take them back to a trolley return area - even if its only 2 cars away from where they are parked).

Seriously, with all this going on daily, when (not if) Covid gets loose here in Perth we are all going to be royally screwed just like the rest of Australia.

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Reply #943 - Jan 5th, 2022 at 6:34pm
 
it will be short and sharp.

27 % prevalence in nsw today on a random sample of 100 people.

they probably have a million cases.

it will be all over in 3 to 4 weeks and they havent gone anywhere near running out of ICU beds

in fact of the 80 people in ICU,  58 are there with delta!!!

omicron is a blessing

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Reply #944 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am
 
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

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Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


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“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.
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Reply #945 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 12:01pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am:
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

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Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


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“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.


I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

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Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be   Undecided
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Reply #947 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:17pm:
Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be   Undecided


Went for lunch today at Baci Cafe in North Perth Plaza with my elderly aunt (Donna and the staff at Baci are fantastic, by the way. Great food).

After lunch we had a look around Coles and bought a few things we needed but there were no shortages of anything as far as we could see. Not even toilet paper... plenty available.

Oh, we can drop the masks (for the time being at least) from 6pm tonight except for 'high risk' areas like hospitals, aged care homes and public transport but we'll be taking a few masks with us whenever we leave the house from tomorrow just in case.
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Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

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Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.


Umm... wouldn't it be easier (not to mention a hell of a lot safer after seeing the Covid disaster which has happened to the rest of Australia) NOT to open up on February 5th?

At least not until everyone has a chance to get their booster shots?

If I see staged photos and videos of 'joyous reunions' at Perth Airport on February 5th (like we saw in the other now Covid infested States when they reopened) I'll have to try very hard not to throw up... or throw something at the TV screen.

Mark McGowan is obviously under incredible pressure to reopen the border from ScoMo and big business... let's hope he can hold out for at least another 6 months or so but I doubt he will be able to.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 12:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am:
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

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Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


Quote:
“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.


I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.



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Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:54pm:
Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

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Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.


Umm... wouldn't it be easier (not to mention a hell of a lot safer after seeing the Covid disaster which has happened to the rest of Australia) NOT to open up on February 5th?

At least not until everyone has a chance to get their booster shots?

If I see staged photos and videos of 'joyous reunions' at Perth Airport on February 5th (like we saw in the other now Covid infested States when they reopened) I'll have to try very hard not to throw up... or throw something at the TV screen.

Mark McGowan is obviously under incredible pressure to reopen the border from ScoMo and big business... let's hope he can hold out for at least another 6 months or so but I doubt he will be able to.



the easy route is usually the wrong route

its easier to buy a big mac then to construct a salad
its easier to drink to free yourself up then to become awesome whilst sober
its easier to watch porn then find a quality woman
its easier to be a spectator then a player
its easier to be an employee then an employer
its easier to take steroid then lift weights in the gym
its easier to give your kids an ipad then take them camping

and yes it is easier to sit in a safe space then move forward with a spirit of adventure

its also more mediocre as the easy path always tends to be
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm:
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a state of flourishing


Still in the fantasy world of 'aqualand', I see.

The only things that are 'flourishing' in the rest of Australia are Covid cases, hospitalisations and sadly, deaths.


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Reply #952 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 12:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am:
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:
Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


Quote:
“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.


I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.



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a state of flourishing


Indeed.

More death. A shortage of workers. Food shortages.

So much flourishing.

Not in WA though.  I wonder why   Undecided
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:54pm:
Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

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Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.


Umm... wouldn't it be easier (not to mention a hell of a lot safer after seeing the Covid disaster which has happened to the rest of Australia) NOT to open up on February 5th?

At least not until everyone has a chance to get their booster shots?

If I see staged photos and videos of 'joyous reunions' at Perth Airport on February 5th (like we saw in the other now Covid infested States when they reopened) I'll have to try very hard not to throw up... or throw something at the TV screen.

Mark McGowan is obviously under incredible pressure to reopen the border from ScoMo and big business... let's hope he can hold out for at least another 6 months or so but I doubt he will be able to.



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Reply #954 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:01pm:
the easy route is usually the wrong route

its easier to buy a big mac then to construct a salad
its easier to drink to free yourself up then to become awesome whilst sober
its easier to watch porn then find a quality woman
its easier to be a spectator then a player
its easier to be an employee then an employer
its easier to take steroid then lift weights in the gym
its easier to give your kids an ipad then take them camping

and yes it is easier to sit in a safe space then move forward with a spirit of adventure

its also more mediocre as the easy path always tends to be


Thanks, but I've already had lunch.  Roll Eyes
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the chode always averts his eyes when offered a more noble path

safety and timidity is his approach to life.

and outrage at people who dont value safety and timidity  Grin Grin Grin
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Pity the WA State election wasn't being held this year in March instead of last year because I'm absolutely certain Mark McGowan wouldn't be opening up (or even be thinking about it) on February 5th if that was the case.
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It is not covid decimating the workforce, it is the covid rules.

During lockdown - 'allowed' 1 hour exercise outdoors. Considered, scientific, sensible?? No, of course not but fineable.

Now - stay out doors, open windows, get exercise and sun.

Same health officials advice, 6 months apart.


Covid action, climate action - the same mindless 'do something' yappers. 
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Reply #958 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:37pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
It is not cid decimating the workforce, it is the covid rules.

During lockdown - 'allowed' 1 hour exercise outdoors. Considered, scientific, sensible?? No, of course not but fineable.

Now - stay out doors, open windows, get exercise and sun.

Same health officials advice, 6 months apart.


Covid action, climate action - the same mindless 'do something' yappers. 


Hitting the Johnny Walker Blue, old boy?

We don't have lockdown in Perth.

We don't even have to wear masks much any more.

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We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.

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Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, ...



The citizens of Western Australia.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 12:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am:
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:
Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


Quote:
“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.


I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.



WA needs to stick to it's guns & keep it's borders shut ....

and from what has happened here since they were opened & what's happened in NSW & Vic where they are about to reintroduce harsh restrictions(de ja vu you dopey Tnucs) Palaszczuk should have kept QLDs borders shut.

Our public health systems are overrun, understaffed & under resourced to deal with 
highly contagious wave of the "very mild" Omicron variant.

Idiots.... those here know who those idiots are.
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Should have left the double up because it appears some here need telling more than twice how stupid they are.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:17pm:
Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be   Undecided

 
Certainly is here in regional QLD ... no tissues, no toilet paper, no domestos type cleaner  in Woolies today.....

many other food stock items not on the shelves.

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 12:01pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 11:53am:
Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:
Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.


Quote:
“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.


Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.


I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.



incorrect

a state of flourishing


You have definitely drunk all the Cool Aid ... idiot.
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Reply #965 - Jan 7th, 2022 at 7:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.




Be funny if you're riding it prematurely in a hearse ey?  Roll Eyes
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If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo.
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Reply #967 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:02am
 
With 90%+  vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?


And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?


You can't  have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.



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Reply #968 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:43am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:02am:
With 90%+  vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't  have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.



All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.
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Reply #969 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:45am
 
Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 7:17am:
If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo.


Would be nice but I do believe most of us here in WA would not want to lose him to Canberra.
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Reply #970 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:21am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:43am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:02am:
With 90%+  vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't  have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.



All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.



Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks

Victoria put up with 260 days of lockdown with nothing to show for it
Now all the eastern states have to put up with is maybe 30 days of people having bad head Colds
And then we can resume human flourishing

People who are so risk averse that they are scared of a head cold
Really need the help of our mental health services
To treat their insane and unrealistic death anxiety
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Reply #971 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:31am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:21am:
Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks



Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-...

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The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.


And, where will this fabled "herd immunity" come from for a virus that continues to mutate plus it is able to infect people more than once?

You sound like most of our politicians with their 'heads in the sand' approach which has allowed this Covid tsunami to be unleashed on most of Australia.
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Reply #972 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:50am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 11:21am:
Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks



Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-...

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The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.


And, where will this fabled "herd immunity" come from for a virus that continues to mutate plus it is able to infect people more than once?

You sound like most of our politicians with their 'heads in the sand' approach which has allowed this Covid tsunami to be unleashed on most of Australia.


The WHO have made numerous misleading statements with Kung Flu starting with no evidence of human to human transmission.

The WHO redefined herd immunity claiming we can get if from vaccination despite those who make the vaccines saying this will be impossible.

Quote:
AstraZeneca Scientist Says Delta Variant Makes Herd Immunity Impossible. Here's Why


Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" now that the Delta variant is circulating.

Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious.

But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people," Pollard said.

https://www.sciencealert.com/delta-variant-means-we-can-rule-out-herd-immunity-s...



NSW and VIC are 2 of the most highly vaxxed places on earth yet cases are exploding among the vaxxed.

Once upon a time the WHO might have been great these days they're next to useless.

Why did they redefine herd immunity i wonder how much big pharma contributes to the WHO budget.

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Reply #973 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 12:19pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:43am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:02am:
With 90%+  vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't  have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.



All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.

Soooooo..... With 90+% vaccination rate what catastrophe are you forecasting?
You forgot to say.
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New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why   Undecided
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Reply #975 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 1:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.



Die, dear? You, dear?

Come come. One can only die once, no?

As every schoolboy knows.
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Reply #976 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 1:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:50pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, ...



The citizens of Western Australia.


I say, are you letting cadavers in yet?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 12:34pm:
New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why   Undecided


ACT..........................1,305 cases and 0 deaths (so far).

Queensland.............. 11,174 cases and 2 deaths.

Tasmania.................. 2,223 cases and 0 deaths (so far).

South Australia.......... 3,707 cases and 2 deaths (yesterday, no numbers for today yet).

Update: 4,274 cases and 5 deaths for South Australia today.

Northern Territory...... 594 new cases (the true 'Gold Standard' Howard Springs quarantine facility for overseas "returned travellers" served them well unlike the other States' city hotels - until the NT foolishly scrapped quarantine after they reopened their borders on December 20th and relied on vaccination and tests which were obviously as big a failure as they were for the other now Covid infested States).

WA.......................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.


Hmm, I'm also wondering why? Undecided
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Reply #978 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 2:01pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:41pm:
We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.




Be funny if you're riding it prematurely in a hearse ey?  Roll Eyes



People die their own deaths, not statistical ('premature') deaths.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 12:34pm:
New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why   Undecided



thats a tiny tiny tiny number of deaths considering the number of infections.

this is a very mild disease
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Reply #980 - Jan 8th, 2022 at 4:17pm
 
China and WA are going great guns but China is only holding out until the winter corona games are finished, McGowan looks like he is in it for the long haul waiting for another variant.
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I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals
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miketrees wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up


Yep.

It won't be good.

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Reply #983 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 12:07pm
 
Well, my elderly aunt and I intend to make the most of the next 4 weeks because there's a definite possibility we won't be leaving the house after February 5th except for essential shopping (if the supermarket shelves are not empty like what's happening over east) and we'll also go out for the occasional drive, only getting out of the car where there's not a lot of people around.

Found this cartoon this morning which sums things up here at the moment rather nicely, I believe.
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miketrees wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals


If WA want the virus, Queensland is a big example. Do you have enough test for spiking cases or hospital beds? Can you afford the supply chain or transportation to be stopped by virus? ... A lot of questions to be answered before opening. It is better to setup a set of conditions and open up slowly.
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Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:55pm:
miketrees wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals


If WA want the virus, Queensland is a big example. Do you have enough test for spiking cases or hospital beds? Can you afford the supply chain or transportation to be stopped by virus? ... A lot of questions to be answered before opening. It is better to setup a set of conditions and open up slowly.



incorrect.

people are currently , recently double vaxxed.

and so their immuntiy is currently at it s peak and will only decline over time.

it is safer to get the disease when your immunity is at its peak .

ie   right now
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Reply #986 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 8:23pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 6:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm:
incorrect

a state of flourishing


Still in the fantasy world of 'aqualand', I see.

The only things that are 'flourishing' in the rest of Australia are Covid cases, hospitalisations and sadly, deaths.




Aqua's problem with WA is that we don't follow the conservative narrative. Hard borders don't work, mandates don't work and economies suffer.

WA has a massive surplus and strong economy whilst the eastern states, who have opened up have seen their spending slump to "lockdown" levels.

Despite being "open for business" spending across dining and retail in the eastern states has dropped considerably.
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Reply #987 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 8:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:59pm:
incorrect.

people are currently , recently double vaxxed.

and so their immuntiy is currently at it s peak and will only decline over time.

it is safer to get the disease when your immunity is at its peak .

ie   right now


incorrect.

Being double vaccinated is almost totally ineffective against Omicron.

Everyone (or as many people as possible) need to have their booster shots and so far very few people have had them.
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Reply #988 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 8:49pm
 
Interesting opinion piece in today's West Australian by Andrew Miller about the impending reopening of WA on February 5th.

He says that soon after the 'sugar hit' of Love Actually type scenes of joyous reunions at the airport the majority of West Australians will then experience huge reductions in health, freedom and business. Just like what has happened in the other States.

He hopes Mark McGowan has been paying attention to all of this and tries to make sure we are as prepared as we can possibly be if we do reopen in 4 weeks time.
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Reply #989 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 9:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:59pm:
Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:55pm:
miketrees wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals


If WA want the virus, Queensland is a big example. Do you have enough test for spiking cases or hospital beds? Can you afford the supply chain or transportation to be stopped by virus? ... A lot of questions to be answered before opening. It is better to setup a set of conditions and open up slowly.



incorrect.

people are currently , recently double vaxxed.

and so their immuntiy is currently at it s peak and will only decline over time.

it is safer to get the disease when your immunity is at its peak .

ie   right now

Don't fool yourself by vaccination like politicians. 93% vaccinated in NSW and still over 40, 000 contracted with virus a day. What's a "joke"? even flu vaccines won't be like this. Prevention works better than vaccination on COVID-19
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Reply #990 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 9:33pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:59pm:
Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:55pm:
miketrees wrote on Jan 8th, 2022 at 10:59pm:
I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals


If WA want the virus, Queensland is a big example. Do you have enough test for spiking cases or hospital beds? Can you afford the supply chain or transportation to be stopped by virus? ... A lot of questions to be answered before opening. It is better to setup a set of conditions and open up slowly.



incorrect.

people are currently , recently double vaxxed.

and so their immuntiy is currently at it s peak and will only decline over time.

it is safer to get the disease when your immunity is at its peak .

ie   right now


I won't trust vaccine much. One of my friends, his son got and he got it. Both double vaccinated. However, his wife unvaccinated and didn't get COVID.
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Reply #991 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 9:52pm
 
NSW has a population of about 8.2 million.

The total double vaxxed (12+ years old) is about 6.5 million.

so, just under 2 million of the total population are unvaxxed.

Those unvaxxed requiring hospitalisation are in the vast majority in NSW.

If New Zealand's figures (which are easy to find) are a guide for NSW:

'Based on the cases in the last fortnight, unvaccinated people are 5 times more likely to get Covid-19 than people who have received two doses, and 81 times more likely to be hospitalised.'
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Only Politicians and Political people (like Protestants) die from this Politically spread disease from a Politically oppressed Chinese nation of Political filth.


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A great COVID-19 divide is widening in Western Australia as the state edges towards its reopening date

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Two West Australian epidemiologists are calling for the state's border opening to be delayed to avoid a potential health "catastrophe" but, in a clear divide, key sectors of the economy warn any delay would be disastrous for jobs and businesses.


And there it is in a nutshell... most people want the WA border to stay closed, businesses want it open. Haven't they been watching what's going on over east or do they think things will be different in WA after February 5th?

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Premier Mark McGowan is sticking to February 5 as the date when Western Australia's isolation ends, telling people to hurry up and get vaccinated against COVID-19.

That is despite the Premier acknowledging there has not yet been any health modelling on the impact of the Omicron variant in WA, although it is due "in coming weeks".


Don't need to wait for any modelling, Mark. Just look at what's happening to the rest of Australia.

Meanwhile...

ServiceWA app launches to help keep WA safe

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The WA Government has launched the ServiceWA app – a free, convenient and secure mobile application that will help Western Australians with WA’s Safe Transition.

The app allows people to show proof of their COVID-19 vaccination, check in at businesses and venues with SafeWA, and access their G2G Pass for interstate travel - all in one convenient place.

It helps people access important COVID-19 information, including how to prepare a household for COVID-19, where to get tested, where to get vaccinated and exposure location sites.

The ServiceWA app requires the user to set up or use a Digital Identity to create an account to prove who they are online - meaning the app is safe, secure and not accessible by anyone else.


"WA's Safe Transition"  Grin Grin Grin (sorry, I shouldn't laugh but I can't help it).

So, no longer content to just keep using the current system - SafeWA app and vaccination certificate from Medicare to show when requested we are now going to have this all encompassing app that requires a Digital ID to set it up.

Looks like the pollies' (of ALL political persuasions) wet dreams are slowly coming to fruition using Covid as an 'excuse' - an app which everyone will need to have on their phone (the SafeWA app will be phased out eventually) so we can be tracked wherever we go 24/7/365.

Together with a cashless society which is what we're also well on the way to becoming (once again using Covid as an 'excuse') including a cashless card for all welfare recipients (including age pensioners) it looks like 1984 is finally arriving even if it is nearly 40 years late.
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Carl D wrote on Jan 11th, 2022 at 7:57pm:
Looks like the pollies' (of ALL political persuasions) wet dreams are slowly coming to fruition using Covid as an 'excuse' - an app which everyone will need to have on their phone (the SafeWA app will be phased out eventually) so we can be tracked wherever we go 24/7/365.

Together with a cashless society which is what we're also well on the way to becoming (once again using Covid as an 'excuse') including a cashless card for all welfare recipients (including age pensioners) it looks like 1984 is finally arriving even if it is nearly 40 years late.

Don't forget to ditch your smartphone. It cannot be switched off and signals to cell towers constantly. You have been trackable since the day you first used that phone.
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Off to a good start.

New COVID app ServiceWA leaves users feeling frustrated after lengthy set up process and technical issues

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West Australians have expressed their frustration at the being forced to sit in queues and navigate a long and complicated process to sign up for the State Government’s new COVID app, with some even refusing to download it at all.

The ServiceWA app launched today is designed to house a proof of vaccination certificate, location check-ins and G2G passes in one place ahead of the February 5 border reopening.

Premier Mark McGowan told how “will be an incredibly important and useful tool for Western Australians as we head into WA’s Safe Transition”.

But, it wasn’t long before West Aussies vented over the frustrating set-up, which involves moving between two apps and remembering several login details and passwords.

“Well, setting up the #ServiceWA app may cost you your sanity. Good luck,” one Twitter user wrote.


I won't be touching this until the current SafeWA app stops working. Might not even bother then because, as I've said already, once Covid gets loose here (if it hasn't already) I'll be leaving the house for essential shopping only.

Might even have to look at getting home deliveries instead.

Assuming the supermarket shelves are not empty like they are over east, of course.
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A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".


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Reply #1001 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?
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Reply #1002 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:53am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?


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It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.


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Reply #1003 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:59am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:53am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?


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It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.



Like adding 'la' or 'meh' to the end of sentences as Malaysian and Singaporean English speakers do?

Or the Canadian / Kiwi 'ay' at the end of sentences?

Or the Australian habit of abbreviating words to a diminutive by appending'-ie' or 'o' or 'a'? Do even Australian public speakers refer to going to the football match or the footy?

Language evolves to suit the regional speakers of the language.

If adding 'one' is the norm for Aboriginal English speakers of a particular region, then, so it is.



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Another thing that speakers of the Australian vernacular (the Australian broad accent - i.e. Strine) should understand: Other English speakers usually do not perceive it as cute or cool (as we may think they do). They often perceive it as slovenly and trashy.

It is likely responsible for perpetuating the myth that we speak the way we do because we are all descended from convicts and talk in the same trashy way our 'underclass ancestors' did.

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It is a pathetic one, isnt it, ey, but f**k.  There, four different dialects.

Because just saying 'it is pathetic' is unintelligible without a 'one' or 'ey' or 'isn't it' after it.


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Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:14am:
It is a pathetic one, isnt it, ey, but f**k.  There, four different dialects.

Because just saying 'it is pathetic' is unintelligible without a 'one' or 'ey' or 'isn't it' after it.



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Reply #1007 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:47am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

 
Pidgin & Creole are based on English

there was very little actual tribal language in it.

It was a bullshyte exercise .... as other dialect users across the state would not have understood that either.

It was in fact laughable.
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Reply #1008 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:51am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:53am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?


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It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.



Like adding 'la' or 'meh' to the end of sentences as Malaysian and Singaporean English speakers do?

Or the Canadian / Kiwi 'ay' at the end of sentences?

Or the Australian habit of abbreviating words to a diminutive by appending'-ie' or 'o' or 'a'? Do even Australian public speakers refer to going to the football match or the footy?

Language evolves to suit the regional speakers of the language.

If adding 'one' is the norm for Aboriginal English speakers of a particular region, then, so it is.





Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.

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Reply #1009 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:56am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:53am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?


Grin
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.



Like adding 'la' or 'meh' to the end of sentences as Malaysian and Singaporean English speakers do?

Or the Canadian / Kiwi 'ay' at the end of sentences?

Or the Australian habit of abbreviating words to a diminutive by appending'-ie' or 'o' or 'a'? Do even Australian public speakers refer to going to the football match or the footy?

Language evolves to suit the regional speakers of the language.

If adding 'one' is the norm for Aboriginal English speakers of a particular region, then, so it is.





Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.


Are you aboriginal?
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Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:47am:
as other dialect users across the state would not have understood that either.

It was in fact laughable.

It's possible that speakers of other aboriginal vernaculars would not have understood it.

The question would be: did it help the Noongar, Yamatji, Wongi people of Western Australia understand it more clearly when spoken in a vernacular they could more easily comprehend?

Monolingual English speakers are usually the laughing stock throughout the world, largely not least for their blind ignorance of the respective local English spoken.
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Reply #1011 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:53am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:26am:
A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?


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It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.



Like adding 'la' or 'meh' to the end of sentences as Malaysian and Singaporean English speakers do?

Or the Canadian / Kiwi 'ay' at the end of sentences?

Or the Australian habit of abbreviating words to a diminutive by appending'-ie' or 'o' or 'a'? Do even Australian public speakers refer to going to the football match or the footy?

Language evolves to suit the regional speakers of the language.

If adding 'one' is the norm for Aboriginal English speakers of a particular region, then, so it is.





Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.



Any aboriginals who find it easier to understand her than him have zero hope for a normal, healthy life. And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out, him speaking slowly and with great effirt to articulate, as if talking to hard of hearing retards  - and then her garbling and mumbling and fluffing her words. She is clearly struggling with finding a way to 'Aboriginalise' even further his simple, clear words.

And if any white person spoke to Aborigines like that they would rightly feel insulted, ridiculed and mocked.

Sofg bigotry of low expectations preening as cultural sensitivity.

It is a pathetic one, isn't it, but.


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Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?
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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?



In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8
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Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?



In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8

Almost identical to how non-Australians perceive the broad Australian accent.
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Reply #1015 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:30pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?


The old boy wouldn't be too happy with that, Meister. Frank's always said how important indigenous consultation is, it's just the way he is.

Consultative, innit.
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Thankfully the rest of us have Sir Les Patterson, Rodney Rude and Kevin bloody Wilson as our cultural ambassadors.
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Reply #1017 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:51pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:19pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?



In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8

Almost identical to how non-Australians perceive the broad Australian accent.


Strange. I could have sworn the old boy assimilated.

Oh well. At least he's not tinted.
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She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306
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Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306


Fccn, eh?

Who's been spying on Aussie pencil cases, as every schoolboy knows?

I got detention for that. Your prog teachers back in jolly old Scandinavia probably gave you an award.

What did they give you for writing CUNT on your knuckles in Liquid Paper?

A holiday to New South Wales?
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Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306


Fccn, eh?

Who's been spying on Aussie pencil cases, as every schoolboy knows?

I got detention for that. Your progressive pedagogy-set back on jolly old Scandinavia probably gave you an award.

What did they give you for writing CUNT on your knuckles in Liquid Paper?

A holiday to New South Wales?



Please trnslte into Abrignl one.


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Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 9:22pm:
GKarnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306


Fccn, eh?

Who's been spying on Aussie pencil cases, as every schoolboy knows?

I got detention for that. Your progressive pedagogy-set back on jolly old Scandinavia probably gave you an award.

What did they give you for writing CUNT on your knuckles in Liquid Paper?

A holiday to New South Wales?



Please trnslte into Abrignl one.




No speaka Danish here, wog. This is Aussie. You speaka English here, okay? Choppie choppie.
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Reply #1024 - Jan 13th, 2022 at 2:19am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 12th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306

Gin one do good job, Gowan one hard understand sometime one.
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Hard to believe that so many Australians are ignorant of the multiple indigenous languages still spoken today as a first language in remote Australia with a kriol used as a lingua franca in remote communities.

Reminds me of the Chamberlain tragedy when aboriginal elders in central Australia tried to advise mainstream Australians that dingos were more than capable of snatching unattended babies but were ignored and scoffed at as ignorant and backward.

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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 13th, 2022 at 9:11am:
Hard to believe that so many Australians are ignorant of the multiple indigenous languages still spoken today as a first language in remote Australia with a kriol used as a lingua franca in remote communities.

Reminds me of the Chamberlain tragedy when aboriginal elders in central Australia tried to advise mainstream Australians that dingos were more than capable of snatching unattended babies but were ignored and scoffed at as ignorant and backward.


If they sent their kids to school we wouldn't have this dialect problem.
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Reply #1027 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 1:55pm
 
Here's the toilet roll shelves of our local IGA in Kooyong Rd. Rivervale this morning.

Just some tissues left. I think that might be paper towels on the top shelf, I didn't have a good look.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? Nearly 2 years after the Great Toilet Roll Panic of 2020 surely everyone would realized by now just how ridiculous hoarding toilet paper is?  Cheesy

Especially since we're still 3 weeks away from WA's Grand Reopening & Let It Rip Day.

We need a new Covid variant that only targets stupid people - trouble is, if that happened there wouldn't be too many of us left on Planet Earth which may not be such a bad thing come to think of it...
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Speaking to Europeans, this obsession with toilet paper seems to be an 'Anglo' thing.

Ironic that tissue paper isn't hoarded, being, as it is, an effective catch-all for every leaking hole.
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Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 1:55pm:
Here's the toilet roll shelves of our local IGA in Kooyong Rd. Rivervale this morning.

Just some tissues left. I think that might be paper towels on the top shelf, I didn't have a good look.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? Nearly 2 years after the Great Toilet Roll Panic of 2020 surely everyone would realized by now just how ridiculous hoarding toilet paper is?  Cheesy

Especially since we're still 3 weeks away from WA's Grand Reopening & Let It Rip Day.

We need a new Covid variant that only targets stupid people - trouble is, if that happened there wouldn't be too many of us left on Planet Earth which may not be such a bad thing come to think of it...


I went to the Vic Park Woolworths today, and they didn't have a single pain killer on the shelf.

All Panadol, Nurofen, and Aspirin completely sold out. Not a single pack left.

In the meat section, there was just one pack of sausages, a couple of packs of gravy beef, and a single pack of chicken mince.

Strangely, there was still some toilet paper left on the shelves. Not much though.

People are idiots.

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Reply #1030 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:28pm
 
Hi, Greg.

I didn't have a look at the shelves with Panadol and other pain killers while I was at IGA but I'll bet they were empty as well.

This is what started the 'Panadol Panic':

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10385667/Covid-Australia-Panic-buying-P...

Coles has now put limits on buying Panadol and other painkillers (and toilet rolls, pasta, etc.) but I wouldn't be surprised if the 'tag teams' are back in action again - one family member or friend goes in to buy as many as they can then they come out and the next one goes in and so on...

Just like what was happening when panic buying started at the beginning of the pandemic 2 years ago.

So much for "we're all in this together" and "let's all look after each other" and all the other meaningless, feel good things we've heard over the past 2 years.
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Reply #1031 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:39pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Hi, Greg.

I didn't have a look at the shelves with Panadol and other pain killers while I was at IGA but I'll bet they were empty as well.

This is what started the 'Panadol Panic':

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10385667/Covid-Australia-Panic-buying-P...

Coles has now put limits on buying Panadol and other painkillers (and toilet rolls, pasta, etc.) but I wouldn't be surprised if the 'tag teams' are back in action again - one family member or friend goes in to buy as many as they can then they come out and the next one goes in and so on...

Just like what was happening when panic buying started at the beginning of the pandemic 2 years ago.

So much for "we're all in this together" and "let's all look after each other" and all the other meaningless, feel good things we've heard over the past 2 years.


As soon as I heard that guy on TV say this:

'The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home.'

I knew it would result in panic buying.

FFS   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1032 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 3:41pm
 
Just look at what the mandating dictator has done to you lot, you are all alone confused and isolated from the rest of the world with a leader playing Russian roulette with mother nature, yikes!

Pretty soon the rest of Australia will be mandating West Australians to stay put as their infection numbers surge from Feb 5th and the rest of us get back to some normality, we don't want them here.

https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/wa-vaccine-mandate-to-expand-stat...
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Reply #1033 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:29pm
 
I still have to ask (as a lot of people are asking)... who is going to enforce these mandates? Checking vaccination certificates, etc.?

Because, as has been said many times already... I'm sure the staff at these places where vaccination proof will be required would rightfully say that it isn't their job and they're not getting paid enough to do their normal jobs as well as checking and putting up with abusive customers who don't have or don't want to show proof of vaccination of which I'm sure there will be many.

And, if this is 'enforced' the same way check ins and social distancing, etc. are 'enforced' right now (i.e. they're not) then the whole thing is a complete waste of time and effort.

But... that's government for you.  Roll Eyes
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the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Oops...

Twitter calls Australian minister Mark McGowan sick for getting speech translated to Aboriginal-English

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Mark McGowan, the State Premier of Western Australia, has a big role to play in preventing the Covid spread in Australia. His job involves taking measures to prevent misinformation around vaccination, especially in areas where vaccine rates are low.

One such measure is getting brutally trolled because it has come off as a supremely racist initiative.

Why?

Because it seems that the minister looks at the Aborginals as some "uneducated folk who cannot understand plain Australian English".


Careful, Mark... most of us already suspect you're been 'bullied' into opening WA up to Covid just like what's happened in the other States but we don't want you to 'lose the plot' before February 5th.

We want you to keep a clear head and remain focused in the Covid crisis over east so you can hopefully make a snap decision to keep WA closed for at least another 6 months.
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Reply #1036 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:49pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:35pm:
the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The irony of aqua telling us over and over that Omicron is mild and we all need to catch it as soon as possible.

Try telling that to the families of the 56 people who died of/with Covid around Australia in the past 24 hours.

NSW - 29 deaths
Victoria - 18 deaths
South Australia - 6 deaths
Queensland - 3 deaths

Tragic and completely avoidable (as I'm sure will be brought up in a future Royal Commission).
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Another good reason not to open up on February 5th.

How COVID-19 could ‘incapacitate’ FIFO camps when WA opens

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Miners could face the end of two years of prosperity where they remained almost untouched by COVID-19 within Premier Mark McGowan’s fortress WA when the state opens up in three weeks.


Yep, can't afford to have the mining industry crippled by Covid. Keep the border closed, Mark.
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Reply #1038 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:35pm:
the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic


They're idiots.

There's nothing to panic about.

Unless, of course, you're unvaccinated.

Life's about to get real hard for the Novaks of Perth.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:35pm:
the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The irony of aqua telling us over and over that Omicron is mild and we all need to catch it as soon as possible.

Try telling that to the families of the 56 people who died of/with Covid around Australia in the past 24 hours.

NSW - 29 deaths
Victoria - 18 deaths
South Australia - 6 deaths
Queensland - 3 deaths

Tragic and completely avoidable (as I'm sure will be brought up in a future Royal Commission).



those are such tiny tiny numbers


we were told at the start it had a case fatality rate of 1 to 2 %.
which would be 250,000 to 500,000.

now you are getting all bent out of shape by single figures!!!!

eh gads man

have you lost your mind !!!!


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aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:42pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:49pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 4:35pm:
the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The irony of aqua telling us over and over that Omicron is mild and we all need to catch it as soon as possible.

Try telling that to the families of the 56 people who died of/with Covid around Australia in the past 24 hours.

NSW - 29 deaths
Victoria - 18 deaths
South Australia - 6 deaths
Queensland - 3 deaths

Tragic and completely avoidable (as I'm sure will be brought up in a future Royal Commission).



those are such tiny tiny numbers


we were told at the start it had a case fatality rate of 1 to 2 %.



If someone you love dies from COVID, they're 100% dead.

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but the numbers are so tiny

we really dodged a bullet.

time for gratitude i would think
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Reply #1042 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:48pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:42pm:
those are such tiny tiny numbers

we were told at the start it had a case fatality rate of 1 to 2 %.
which would be 250,000 to 500,000.

now you are getting all bent out of shape by single figures!!!!

eh gads man

have you lost your mind !!!!



Get back to us in about 6 months when we will have the 'double whammy' of Covid and the flu to deal with.

There's even reports from overseas that some people have caught both at the same time, they call it Flurona.

Interesting times ahead. And, probably not very pleasant times for a lot of especially vulnerable people, unfortunately.
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covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

not even close

self inflicted disease is way more common and thats what is clogging up our hospitals.

they are overflowing with heart disease, diabetes,cancer and mental health issues mostly due to people lack of "personal responsibility" for their health.
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:55pm:
covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.


You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.

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everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

the marathon must be run.

nsw is close to the finish line, victoria close behind, qld is putting in a noble surge.

WA is still in bed, hiding from the physical education teacher who is looking for their sorry asses and is going to drag them , kicking and screaming , to the start line .

hopefully the citizens of WA have spent the last 2 years doing brutal training to prepare


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:55pm:
covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.


You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.



Now now, Greggery, people should be grateful to be coughed on. If they catch obesity their condition could become terminal.

Covid's a state of mind. The placebo effect can be very powerful indeed.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.
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Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:55pm:
covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.


You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.



Now now, Greggery, people should be grateful to be coughed on. If they catch obesity their condition could become terminal.

Covid's a state of mind. The placebo effect can be very powerful indeed.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.


everyone wants a quick fix.

just a jab and youre done, youre healthy

health doesnt work like that



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aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.


You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.


You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.




soft and sloppy individuals most certainly do catch it


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.


You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.



The jury's still out on that one, Greggery. They've done studies where they show weak-willed people pictures of cakes, KFC, Maccas,  etc. They put on 5kgs without eating a thing.

The mind is a powerful tool, you see. Place it in the hands of a chode and you get what you expect. Lives of pure garbage.

Put it in the hands of a truly great man, however, and you can achieve miracles.

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Reply #1051 - Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
health doesnt work like that


You don't have to answer, but, if you choose to (cos if you do, this thread will ramble), how does health work?
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duplicate again
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 5:55pm:
covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.


You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.



Now now, Greggery, people should be grateful to be coughed on. If they catch obesity their condition could become terminal.

Covid's a state of mind. The placebo effect can be very powerful indeed.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.


everyone wants a quick fix.

just a jab and youre done, youre healthy

health doesnt work like that




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Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.


You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.



The jury's still out on that one, Greggery. They've done studies where they show weak-willed people pictures of cakes, KFC, Maccas,  etc. They put on 5kgs without eating a thing.

The mind is a powerful tool, you see. Place it in the hands of a chode and you get what you expect. Lives of pure garbage.

Put it in the hands of a truly great man, however, and you can achieve miracles.

Fore!


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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:12pm:
health doesnt work like that


You don't have to answer, but, if you choose to (cos if you do, this thread will ramble), how does health work?


well the first thing any healthy individual does (mentally healthy that is) is to fully accept that we are on this earth for a very very short time.

and to spend 2 years treading water in the false belief that you can create a 'safe space" is sheer lunacy.

i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

it makes you 'bounce out of bed with a plan"

the insulated urban individual does not want to confront this harsh reality
( in the same way he chows down on a bacon snadwich but doesnt want to see the appalling life of the pig in a cage)

covid is just a tiny dose of this reality and it freaks people out.

that alone reveals how delusional they are and what a false reality they are living in .

they could confront this reality and use it as motivation to work on their fitness and their nutrition.

but i suspect that even confronting that death is approaching rapidly and trying to "do" something would create unbearable death anxiety for them

as they ran around the block every morning at 5 am , they would be thinking "i am doing this because i dont want to DIE young" and that would create existential fear.

so they outsource that responsibility to "authority figures" (politicians, chief health officers, doctors , cops ) to "keep them safe"

it never works because thats not reality.

i think it would be good if everytime someone died, the corpse stayed in the house for a week and the kids and grandkids got to hang around it and  accept death as part of the reality of life.

the pandemic has revealed a few things

one is the incredible level of death anxiety in society

two is the incredible desire for safety

both are non fruitful modes of being
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LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

From today's West Australian.

I haven't tried downloading and setting this up yet (still using the SafeWA app which is supposed to be phased out before too much longer).

Doesn't inspire me with much confidence. And, as others have pointed out, why can't our vaccination status be linked to the existing SafeWA app like it has been in other States with their check in apps?
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:53pm:
i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

That's very true.

Death has been sanitised or censored for the convenience of the metropolitan so that we can live with the delusion that its inevitability should be a only a concern to people of a netherworld.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 7:53pm:
LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

From today's West Australian.

I haven't tried downloading and setting this up yet (still using the SafeWA app which is supposed to be phased out before too much longer).

Doesn't inspire me with much confidence. And, as others have pointed out, why can't our vaccination status be linked to the existing SafeWA app like it has been in other States with their check in apps?


Downloaded the new ServiceWA app and tried to set it up on my Samsung Galaxy S5 phone which I've had for nearly 5 years which Samsung haven't provided any updates for since 1st March 2017. Running Android 6.0.1

Got to the part where it says I need the myGovID app to get a "digital identity" for the ServiceWA app to work.

Tried to download and install the myGovID app and I get the message "This app is not compatible with your device". Cheesy

What a joke... if the WA government expect me to buy a new phone to run their new app then they can think again. Or, they can pay for it.

I'll keep using the SafeWA app to sign in at shops, etc. and when it stops working I'll just use pen and paper. I already have my Covid vaccination certificate on my phone and I'll also print out and laminate a paper copy and carry that with me too like I've done for my aunt's certificate.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 7:53pm:
LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

From today's West Australian.

I haven't tried downloading and setting this up yet (still using the SafeWA app which is supposed to be phased out before too much longer).

Doesn't inspire me with much confidence. And, as others have pointed out, why can't our vaccination status be linked to the existing SafeWA app like it has been in other States with their check in apps?


We dont laugh at you yet, Carl, we'll save all that for Feb 5th, when we storm your airports and kill your chodes.

Don't worry about Aquascoot, he'll stay isolating on his farm, watching the Superior Man drive past on the freeway, his hot babe filly by his side, coughing, his Maccas wrappers landing on Aquascoot's front lawn,  causing Aquascoot to curse and call his long-suffering wife to rescue the Superior Man's rubbish, dispose safely and sanitise.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 8:56pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 6:53pm:
i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

That's very true.

Death has been sanitised or censored for the convenience of the metropolitan so that we can live with the delusion that its inevitability should be a only a concern to people of a netherworld.



Aquascoot lives in a suburban housing estate on the hinterland of the Sunshine Coast, Meister. His local Maccas drive-thru is less than a k away.

The long-suffering Mrs Scoot has to bribe Aquascoot from driving thru between meals, as you do.

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Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 9:39pm:
We dont laugh at you yet, Carl, we'll save all that for Feb 5th, when we storm your airports and kill your chodes.

Don't worry about Aquascoot, he'll stay isolating on his farm, watching the Superior Man drive past on the freeway, his hot babe filly by his side, coughing, his Maccas wrappers landing on Aquascoot's front lawn,  causing Aquascoot to curse and call his long-suffering wife to rescue the Superior Man's rubbish, dispose safely and sanitise.

Now that's comedy!

More of it!

We're not getting through this without it.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 1:55pm:
Here's the toilet roll shelves of our local IGA in Kooyong Rd. Rivervale this morning.

Just some tissues left. I think that might be paper towels on the top shelf, I didn't have a good look.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? Nearly 2 years after the Great Toilet Roll Panic of 2020 surely everyone would realized by now just how ridiculous hoarding toilet paper is?  Cheesy

Especially since we're still 3 weeks away from WA's Grand Reopening & Let It Rip Day.

We need a new Covid variant that only targets stupid people - trouble is, if that happened there wouldn't be too many of us left on Planet Earth which may not be such a bad thing come to think of it...


I went to the Vic Park Woolworths today, and they didn't have a single pain killer on the shelf.

All Panadol, Nurofen, and Aspirin completely sold out. Not a single pack left.

In the meat section, there was just one pack of sausages, a couple of packs of gravy beef, and a single pack of chicken mince.

Strangely, there was still some toilet paper left on the shelves. Not much though.

People are idiots.



Went back up to our IGA again this morning and, sure enough... all the painkillers were gone. Same with all the toilet rolls.

I wonder what would happen if deputy chief medical officer Michael Kidd told everyone they needed to jump off a cliff to avoid getting Covid?

And, I'm also wondering if a lot of those people now hoarding Panadol, Nurofen and other painkillers are eating them like lollies because they 'think' it will stop them getting Covid?

We'll just have to wait and see if there's a massive increase in liver damage cases in the coming months and years.

Just to show how stupid people are these days, have a look at this:

Aussie shopper points out bizzare twist in Panadol, Nurofen panic buying nightmare

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Stock supply shortages and panic buyers have seen shelves at supermarkets and pharmacies across the country stripped bare of pain medication – well, almost.

Last week, Australians were urged to stock up on essentials they would need in case they were diagnosed with Covid-19.

One of the key items deputy chief medical officer Michael Kidd suggested Aussies should have on hand was paracetamol or ibuprofen in order to manage fevers and mild aches or pains.

“My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with Covid-19,” he said.

“It’s important to be prepared because you won’t be able to go to your supermarket or pharmacy if you are diagnosed with Covid-19.”


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A photo, posted to Twitter by user Katerina, shows the shelves at Chemist Warehouse store that usually display Panadol and Nurofen completely empty.

However, right next to it, are rows and rows of the pain killer Panamax.

Just like Panadol, Panamax contains the active ingredient paracetamol is used to relieve pain and fevers.

It is also significantly cheaper, costing $2.99 for 100 tablets, compared to Panadol which costs $13.49 for the same amount.

“Lol when people don’t realise Panamax is paracetamol,” Katrina wrote.


Grin Grin Grin

Idiots.... idiots everywhere...
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Reply #1064 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 6:19pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 9:30pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 14th, 2022 at 7:53pm:
LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

From today's West Australian.

I haven't tried downloading and setting this up yet (still using the SafeWA app which is supposed to be phased out before too much longer).

Doesn't inspire me with much confidence. And, as others have pointed out, why can't our vaccination status be linked to the existing SafeWA app like it has been in other States with their check in apps?


Downloaded the new ServiceWA app and tried to set it up on my Samsung Galaxy S5 phone which I've had for nearly 5 years which Samsung haven't provided any updates for since 1st March 2017. Running Android 6.0.1

Got to the part where it says I need the myGovID app to get a "digital identity" for the ServiceWA app to work.

Tried to download and install the myGovID app and I get the message "This app is not compatible with your device". Cheesy

What a joke... if the WA government expect me to buy a new phone to run their new app then they can think again. Or, they can pay for it.

I'll keep using the SafeWA app to sign in at shops, etc. and when it stops working I'll just use pen and paper. I already have my Covid vaccination certificate on my phone and I'll also print out and laminate a paper copy and carry that with me too like I've done for my aunt's certificate.

Idiots.


I emailed ServiceWA app support last Friday evening telling them about the problem I was having but so far I haven't had a reply.

I was talking to a friend of ours who we met at Belmont Forum on Wednesday afternoon and he told us about a friend of his who was having a similar problem with the new ServiceWA app. He phoned support and was basically told "oh, well... you'll probably need to buy a new phone".

Maybe that's why I haven't had a reply to my email because I stated quite clearly that I was not going to buy a new phone. But, in all fairness it isn't the new ServiceWA app causing a problem with my phone its the Federal government's myGovID app causing it.

Speaking of Belmont Forum, I've noticed there was a Covid exposure site on Monday at Guzman y Gomez.

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-update-wa-five-new-cases-of-commun...

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The new cases follow the release of an updated list of exposure sites in Perth this morning including Wattle Grove Motel (January 18 and 19), BGC Fibre Warehouse and Distribution in Canning Vale (January 18), Guzman y Gomez outlet at Belmont Forum shopping centre (January 17) and Sagitta CrossFit in East Victoria Park (January 17).


Guzman y Gomez is at the southern end of Belmont Forum near Aldi. My aunt and I were sitting on the seats outside Aldi two days later (Wednesday) when we ran into our friend that I mentioned above.  Shocked
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https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100769100

Suck on that, leftards.

Look on the bright side, Greggery, it'll kill off your chodes, those with dicks wider than they're long.

They should have read Zuby while they had a chance.

You should be okay.
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Reply #1066 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm
 
Big announcement from Mark McGowan coming up in a few minutes (nearly 7:30 here).

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484092707916349443

Hope he's decided not to open up on February 5th.
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Reply #1067 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm
 
Looks like we're still planning to reopen on February 5th but under very strict conditions including continuing quarantine.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132174949654528

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132178762276873

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

Not too keen on the self quarantine part unless it is enforced with regular checks or the use of a tracking device.
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Surprise surprise.

12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.
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Reply #1069 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:06pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

They;re running out of time.

McGowan's strategically ambiguous rhetoric on the matter is receding.
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Reply #1070 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:16pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
Looks like we're still planning to reopen on February 5th but under very strict conditions including continuing quarantine.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132174949654528

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132178762276873

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

Not too keen on the self quarantine part unless it is enforced with regular checks or the use of a tracking device.



Good news:

Premier Mark McGowan announces delay to WA border opening amid fears Omicron will 'cripple' state

The planned reopening of Western Australia's border to the rest of the country on February 5 will be delayed indefinitely, Premier Mark McGowan has announced.

Mr McGowan called a late night press conference to announce the delay, which he said was due to the changing health risks posed by the Omicron COVID-19 variant.

He said a new date would be considered over the next month.
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Reply #1071 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:16pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
Looks like we're still planning to reopen on February 5th but under very strict conditions including continuing quarantine.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132174949654528

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132178762276873

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

Not too keen on the self quarantine part unless it is enforced with regular checks or the use of a tracking device.



Good news:

Premier Mark McGowan announces delay to WA border opening amid fears Omicron will 'cripple' state

The planned reopening of Western Australia's border to the rest of the country on February 5 will be delayed indefinitely, Premier Mark McGowan has announced.

Mr McGowan called a late night press conference to announce the delay, which he said was due to the changing health risks posed by the Omicron COVID-19 variant.

He said a new date would be considered over the next month.

Well, well, well!

I spoke to soon!

He drew the card.

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Reply #1072 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:19pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 10:16pm:
Carl D wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
Looks like we're still planning to reopen on February 5th but under very strict conditions including continuing quarantine.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132174949654528

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132178762276873

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

Not too keen on the self quarantine part unless it is enforced with regular checks or the use of a tracking device.



Good news:

Premier Mark McGowan announces delay to WA border opening amid fears Omicron will 'cripple' state

The planned reopening of Western Australia's border to the rest of the country on February 5 will be delayed indefinitely, Premier Mark McGowan has announced.

Mr McGowan called a late night press conference to announce the delay, which he said was due to the changing health risks posed by the Omicron COVID-19 variant.

He said a new date would be considered over the next month.

Well, well, well!

I spoke to soon!

He drew the card.



He had to.

He had no choice.

Well done, Mr. McGowan   Smiley
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A new date?

Come come. You people think you're better than us, well I have news for you.

You're not. You people have just as many tinted races as we do.

Boongs, Muslims, terror suspects, dole bludgers, the lot.

You people should have thought of covid before you went and got infected.

Now you'll get it for sure.
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Reply #1074 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm
 
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!
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Reply #1075 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:24pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm:
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!


McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.
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Reply #1076 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:28pm
 
Yes, well done Mark McGowan.  Smiley

Now, let's wait and see who is going to be first up with threats to take him and the WA government to court for not reopening on February 5th.

I have 3 big businesses in mind already and one of them has previously threatened to take any States that refused to reopen to court.

I'll have my bag of popcorn ready. Cool
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Reply #1077 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:31pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm:
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!


McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

What happened tonight was a powerful strategic move.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

It won't surprise me if WA's unvaxxed are ordered to remain inside at home indefinitely except in medical emergencies.
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Reply #1078 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 5:23am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm:
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!


McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

What happened tonight was a powerful strategic move.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

It won't surprise me if WA's unvaxxed are ordered to remain inside at home indefinitely except in medical emergencies.


omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

qld saw a DROP in the number of ICU admissions yesterday.

and lets not forget omicron is killing significantly less people then seasonal flu in 2018 which killed several thousand.

in fact, it will probably just be the case that omicron kills the same people the flu used to.

the flu needle in 2018 had a 58 % efficacy and thats probably comparable to current corona vaccines.

we didnt close states in 2018 but we are now.

i think its just because people havent dealt with it before.

i know about 35 people in qld who have had omicron and they are all fine.
a few had a day or two with headaches and temps and felt exhausted but all fine now.

nowhere near as bad as ross river or q fever.
not even in the same ballpark.

they are now not going to be able to be terrified by the mainstream media because it wasnt terrible.

thats probably what ends the pandemic in a month to 6 weeks.

everyone gets it and then sees it wasnt such a big deal.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

thats unnatural.
covid is natural.
getting it is natural.


a year spent in africa where malaria still kills 1 million people a year, who die a horrible death , would get some people back in sync with nature.

ask an african if he fears a sniffley nose more then a systemic illness that attacks your brain and your liver .

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.

planet "weak fragile soft pussy"
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Reply #1079 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 6:48am
 
Poor aqua... I guess Mark McGowan also didn't read your email.  Roll Eyes

I see you're still comparing COVID-19 with the flu.

I've mentioned this before but I'm sure it needs repeating:

When did Australia have this many deaths and hospitalisations from the flu in the middle of summer?

And, what do you think is going to happen when Australia gets hit with COVID-19 and the flu at the same time when winter arrives in a few months time, especially if there's another newer, more vaccine resistant Covid variant to deal with?

At least WA may be spared having to deal with the flu for the third year in a row due to our continuing strict border controls and that will be good. Especially for the elderly and immunocompromised, etc.
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Reply #1080 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 6:57am
 
Well nobody has any immunity to covid so that is why is spreading in summer

What will happen when we get both coved and the flu together?

Well you can be 100% certain we will be getting them together
So it is very wise of you to ask someone with Aquascoots common sense what's going to happen

So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name

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Reply #1081 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:30am
 
Just shows how out of touch Peter Dutton and the Federal government is with how people feel here in WA.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-today-live-coronavirus... (need to scroll down for the story so I've quoted the whole thing).

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Federal government front bencher Peter Dutton says West Australians have been left wondering what's next after Premier Mark McGowan pushed back the February 5 border reopening date.

Mr Dutton told Today many WA residents would be feeling disappointed by the decision.

"You can see the disappointment when you hear the West Australians speak and they're asking what next? How do they get through this?" he said.

"The most important thing is to see WA through to the other side.

"People are separated from their families, there are small businesses suffering, West Australians want to be opened up to the rest of the country so they can travel again."


Really, Peter? You can see the disappointment in WA already after the announcement was made by Mark McGowan last night? Hilarious stuff.

At last count nearly 80% of West Australians wanted the "hard border" to continue so I doubt there's too many people disappointed today.

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No they don't (except maybe the bogans who miss Bali) and I'm sure small businesses here will not be suffering as much as those in the eastern States with Covid running loose.

Oh, and... "SIT DOWN BOOFHEAD!"

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Reply #1082 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:43am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 6:57am:
So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name


That sounds pretty rational to me


So, you're still saying Covid is no worse than the flu?

I'm sure the relatives and friends of the 5 million dead (and counting) would tend to disagree with that.

Oh, and...

Will COVID-19 become endemic? Why 'mild Omicron' won't end the pandemic

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Professor of Biosecurity at the University of NSW Raina MacIntyre said COVID-19 will never be endemic.
"Case numbers can rise very quickly, requiring surge capacity in the health system," she said.
"If case numbers overwhelm the health system, people who could have survived with oxygen or other therapy are unable to get into hospital and the death rates rises.
"The death rates we quote depend on everyone who needs hospital care receiving it."


Others tend to disagree, of course. But, with all the mistakes we've seen made by governments and health officials in the past 2 years I believe we must always look at Covid from a worst case scenario from here onwards.


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Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus
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And thank you for bringing up Peter Dutton

One of our most admirable politicians

Strong confident and competent
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Reply #1085 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am
 
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
46 deaths
in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone.  Shocked

Edit: Plus another
20 lives lost
in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's
66 deaths from just 2 States so far.


aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.

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Reply #1086 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:42am
 
Oh Carl you are just being silly

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who are appropriately vaccinated
That would be the consensus

The chief health officer Dr Murphy said so yesterday

Everyone is going to catch omicron
That is also the consensus

The head of the ama said it
Chief health officers of Queensland New South Wales Victoria and South Australia have set it

Listen to The science Karl

Don't listen to Mr McGowan he is living in a false reality
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 5:23am:
omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.


Just for the record, the people of WA didn't make the decision; it wasn't a referendum.

Its' a political decision backed by medical advice.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.
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Reply #1088 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:56am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am:
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
46 deaths
in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone.  Shocked

Edit: Plus another
20 lives lost
in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's
66 deaths from just 2 States so far.


aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.



As I have pointed out to you before Carl, you must keep things in perspective. There are 8 million people in NSW. As of last night:

259, 132 active covid cases
2743 in hospital
209 in ICU
68 on ventilators. 

So doing the sums here, only some 3% of the population has Covid at the present time, of those only around 1% are in hospital, of those only around 8% are in ICU and of those only 30% are on ventilators. The unvaccinated or partially vaccinated make up the majority of these hospital admissions.

So you can see that the panic being encouraged by the media and irresponsible people like the WA Premier is unwarranted. However given that Stockholm Syndrome is rampant among WA natives it isn't surprising that the Premier is able to get away with this and still have support from the frightened people.
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Reply #1089 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 9:22am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am:
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
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Edit: Plus another
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https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.



Scoot will say those people who died either didn't matter, or didn't deserve to live because the were old or overweight.

He'll say and advocate for anything to protect his ego from being exposed to evidence that don't suit his opinions.
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Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:42am:
Oh Carl you are just being silly

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who are appropriately vaccinated
That would be the consensus

The chief health officer Dr Murphy said so yesterday

Everyone is going to catch omicron
That is also the consensus

The head of the ama said it
Chief health officers of Queensland New South Wales Victoria and South Australia have set it

Listen to The science Karl



I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.
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Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:16am:
I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.


Thank you, Mustapha. I will.

aqua, can you estimate for us how many of the 5 million+ COVID-19 deaths worldwide (so far) would have occurred if Covid hadn't existed?

Take your time... I have all day.
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McGowan to WA and the rest of the world

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 5:23am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm:
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!


McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

What happened tonight was a powerful strategic move.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

It won't surprise me if WA's unvaxxed are ordered to remain inside at home indefinitely except in medical emergencies.


omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

qld saw a DROP in the number of ICU admissions yesterday.

and lets not forget omicron is killing significantly less people then seasonal flu in 2018 which killed several thousand.

in fact, it will probably just be the case that omicron kills the same people the flu used to.

the flu needle in 2018 had a 58 % efficacy and thats probably comparable to current corona vaccines.

we didnt close states in 2018 but we are now.

i think its just because people havent dealt with it before.

i know about 35 people in qld who have had omicron and they are all fine.
a few had a day or two with headaches and temps and felt exhausted but all fine now.

nowhere near as bad as ross river or q fever.
not even in the same ballpark.

they are now not going to be able to be terrified by the mainstream media because it wasnt terrible.

thats probably what ends the pandemic in a month to 6 weeks.

everyone gets it and then sees it wasnt such a big deal.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

thats unnatural.
covid is natural.
getting it is natural.


a year spent in africa where malaria still kills 1 million people a year, who die a horrible death , would get some people back in sync with nature.

ask an african if he fears a sniffley nose more then a systemic illness that attacks your brain and your liver .

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.

planet "weak fragile soft pussy"


Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?
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Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:23am:
Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?


Looks like he's gone.

Must have gone off to consult Dr. Google (and Zuby again, of course).

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.
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Reply #1097 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:31am
 
In case you miss it, aqua.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/1092#1092

Any time today will do.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:30am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:23am:
Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?


Looks like he's gone.

Must have gone off to consult Dr. Google (and Zuby again, of course).

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.


Perfectly understandable. It's always wise to read Zuby once you've made up your mind.

Bonus thought: 21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good)
As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad).
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Reply #1099 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 11:18am
 
Was listening to ABC talkback radio this morning and some WA health professionals reckon the state of dysfunction and overload in WA WITHOUT Covid is about how NSW is coping in the peak of the Omicron outbreak.

The real reason WA can't open up is it has the worst health system in Australia.

Tell the truth, McGowen!!!

Western Australia has the lowest number of intensive care unit (ICU) beds on a per capita basis in the nation, with just six beds available for every 100,000 people, according to a medical journal report.

New South Wales led the nation with 10.8 beds for every 100,000 people

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-16/wa-icu-bed-count-lowest-in-nation-medical...
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Gordon wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 11:18am:
Was listening to ABC talkback radio this morning and some WA health professionals reckon the state of dysfunction and overload in WA WITHOUT Covid is about how NSW is coping in the peak of the Omicron outbreak.

The real reason WA can't open up is it has the worst health system in Australia.

Tell the truth, McGowen!!!

Western Australia has the lowest number of intensive care unit (ICU) beds on a per capita basis in the nation, with just six beds available for every 100,000 people, according to a medical journal report.

New South Wales led the nation with 10.8 beds for every 100,000 people

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-16/wa-icu-bed-count-lowest-in-nation-medical...


Aha. You've exposed the whole WA covid response.

Cunning, no?
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Reply #1101 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm
 
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?


Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

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Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?


Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?




Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?


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Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?


Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?




Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/


Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?


Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?




Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/


Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/



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Cry me a river...

COVID-19: Glory, Lynx, Wildcats, Eagles, Dockers, Scorchers all scrambling after border blindside

Quote:
WA’s professional sports teams were left in shock and limbo on Thursday night after Premier Mark McGowan announced the February 5 border opening date would be delayed indefinitely.

As Perth Glory owner Tony Sage put it: “We’re f...ked.”

It lobbed a grenade at the 2022 AFL fixture, while the seasons of the summer teams have now descended into chaos -- with some fearing financial disaster should their home fixtures have to be scrapped.

Perth Wildcats, Perth Glory, Perth Lynx and the Fremantle and West Coast AFLW teams are on the east coast and had planned to return following the opening date for a glut of catch-up home games. Perth Scorchers are preparing for their 14th away game in a row on Saturday in a final against Sydney Sixers.

Players from all sports will be allowed back into the State, but the fact they will now need to serve 14 days quarantine on return to WA will cause havoc.


Nice to be living in a State that puts peoples' lives and health ahead of sport.

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McGowan offered no indication on how long the border could remain closed, but offered the AFL clubs a glimmer of hope when he hinted they may be able to negotiate further exemptions from the rules announced to allow travelling teams into Perth.

“Sport is not my number one priority,” the Premier said.


Thank you, Mark.  Smiley

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Former Glory captain Rostyn Griffiths, a West Australian who now plays for Melbourne City, labelled McGowan “an absolute f….n clown” on Twitter.


lol... and I'm sure Mark cares about that just as much as the rest of us do.  Grin Grin Grin
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 12:53pm:
Mark McGowan  ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.


19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f33978...


Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?


Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?




Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/


Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/



First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.


I've got three now   Wink
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Reply #1109 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 2:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:11am:
Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth


Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.


I've got three now   Wink



Isn't one enough?

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Reply #1111 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:16pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 2:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:11am:
Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth


Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.


incorrect. the data dont lie.

unneccessary deaths would be the 50,000 uk residents who will now die of cancer.

tragic and avoidable.

how many cancers are we missing in australia.

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Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:53pm:
Cry me a river...

COVID-19: Glory, Lynx, Wildcats, Eagles, Dockers, Scorchers all scrambling after border blindside

Quote:
WA’s professional sports teams were left in shock and limbo on Thursday night after Premier Mark McGowan announced the February 5 border opening date would be delayed indefinitely.

As Perth Glory owner Tony Sage put it: “We’re f...ked.”

It lobbed a grenade at the 2022 AFL fixture, while the seasons of the summer teams have now descended into chaos -- with some fearing financial disaster should their home fixtures have to be scrapped.

Perth Wildcats, Perth Glory, Perth Lynx and the Fremantle and West Coast AFLW teams are on the east coast and had planned to return following the opening date for a glut of catch-up home games. Perth Scorchers are preparing for their 14th away game in a row on Saturday in a final against Sydney Sixers.

Players from all sports will be allowed back into the State, but the fact they will now need to serve 14 days quarantine on return to WA will cause havoc.


Nice to be living in a State that puts peoples' lives and health ahead of sport.

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McGowan offered no indication on how long the border could remain closed, but offered the AFL clubs a glimmer of hope when he hinted they may be able to negotiate further exemptions from the rules announced to allow travelling teams into Perth.

“Sport is not my number one priority,” the Premier said.


Thank you, Mark.  Smiley

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Former Glory captain Rostyn Griffiths, a West Australian who now plays for Melbourne City, labelled McGowan “an absolute f….n clown” on Twitter.


lol... and I'm sure Mark cares about that just as much as the rest of us do.  Grin Grin Grin


the sporting arena is where people go to challenge themselves .

mark has no place in such a place  Grin Grin Grin
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.


I've got three now   Wink



Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?


Is one enough?  You've got to be kidding!

Haven't you heard the old joke?

Q. How many guitars does a guitarist need?

A. Just one more  Grin  It's so true - it's always just one more.

And no, mine are not Chibsons - they are genuine Gibsons made in the US of A.

A '50s Les Paul, a '60s Les Paul, and a Les Paul Special - TV Yellow.

Don't play 'em much though - too damn heavy!
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 1:11pm:
First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.


I've got three now   Wink


Wow impressed. Love them.

Always wanted a Les Paul recording like Les finished up playing, also like the gold tops though would happily take a 59 burst (the holy grail).
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aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:16pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 2:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:11am:
Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth


Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.


incorrect. the data dont lie.

unneccessary deaths would be the 50,000 uk residents who will now die of cancer.

tragic and avoidable.

how many cancers are we missing in australia.

one shudders to think


So you're unwilling to correct your previous misinformation?

So you're lying about that now?
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