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Re: Chinese brands
Reply #45 - Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:08pm

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI.

DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things
and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx.
70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly
regarded.

I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic
Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI
subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their
reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service
are also up to par.

Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk.

If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them.

Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it
will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and
stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

drones shouldnt exist, I dont know where anyone gets the idea that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

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Reply #46 - Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:37pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk.

Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok.

Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes.

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Reply #47 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm

rhino wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:08pm:

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI.

DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things
and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx.
70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly
regarded.

I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic
Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI
subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their
reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service
are also up to par.

Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk.

If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them.

Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it
will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and
stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

drones shouldnt exist, I dont know where anyone gets the idea that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

Try it with mine and see what happens.

I fly them responsibly and within the rules.

All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap.

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or
even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal.

Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no
Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic.

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Reply #48 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:42pm

Kat wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:08pm:

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI.

DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things
and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx.
70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly
regarded.

I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic
Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI
subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their
reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service
are also up to par.

Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk.

If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them.

Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it
will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and
stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

drones shouldnt exist, I dont know where anyone gets the idea that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

Try it with mine and see what happens.

I fly them responsibly and within the rules.

All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap.

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or
even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal.

Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no
Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic.

Most people dont use them responsibly, they should be banned, there is zero legitimate civilian use for them. If I use a blocker you will never know Wink

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Reply #49 - Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:33am

rhino wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:08pm:

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI.

DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things
and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx.
70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly
regarded.

I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic
Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI
subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their
reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service
are also up to par.

Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk.

If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them.

Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it
will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and
stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

drones shouldnt exist, I dont know where anyone gets the idea that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

Try it with mine and see what happens.

I fly them responsibly and within the rules.

All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap.

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or
even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal.

Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no
Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic.

Most people dont use them responsibly, they should be banned, there is zero legitimate civilian use for them. If I use a blocker you will never know Wink

You really are full of it, you know that?

Obviously, sensible comment isn't wanted here.

Good-oh - I'll see myself out.

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Reply #51 - Jun 30^th, 2021 at 8:14am

rhino wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Kat wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or
even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

This comment from you says it all. You would be quite happy with spying on people in their own backyard just because you legally can.

Ah, pull your head in.

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Reply #52 - Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:02am

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:37pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk.

Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok.

Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes.

And your shoes, of course.

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Reply #53 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 12:01pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:37pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk.

Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok.

Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes

I would never buy another Jeep. I could tell you some horror stories there. They don't exactly instill confidence in American goods. The only cars worth buying in the US are Japanese cars made under strict Japanese quality criteria. Toyota, Honda, Subaru and Nissan all have factories in the US.

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Reply #54 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 1:10pm

jeep land rover , mg, jag, volvo are now run out of china.

american brands are rolling piles of junk, often made in mexico or assembled in the USA out of parts made in china.

japan still takes pride in its fleet and honda and toyota are the standout brands
mazda are reasonable.

look for the made in japan on the plate in the drivers door.
then youre sweet.

having said that , we will be moving to electric vehicles and they will tend to be fairly generic. its a simpler technology .
a lot of people will use cars they way they use those e scooters now.
just get around in one, using an app and pay per journey.

the days of big heavy vehicles and long trips are coming to an end
fossil fuels are gone and with them cheap energy.

people will be increasingly confined to their own homes.
covid lockdowns revealed that most chodes are perfectly happy with that

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Reply #55 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 1:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 1:10pm:

jeep land rover , mg, jag, volvo are now run out of china.

Well I know that Jeep is now owned by Stellantis, based out of Amsterdam, and Stellantis is a merger of Fiat Chrysler (based in Italy) and PSA (Peugeot) based in France.

Most RHD Jeeps are made either in Toledo or Ontario Canada (near Toronto). I don't know about the rest.

After Sales service for Jeep is abysmal. Parts take months to arrive, and although they have many recalls, the breakdown usually happens before the recall can be completed. I have a Safety Recall coming up in August 2023. The only way I can update my GPS maps is by installing an aftermarket unit, which costs about $3000.

When I first received it, the camber was set for US roads, and it kept going into limp mode due to the DPF being full and needing to be regenerated.

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Reply #56 - Sep 26^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

yeah, i'm probably wrong about jeep

but fiat was boke as was chrysler so two broke companies joined up. peugeot are close to broke, so is nissan.

when they get low on capital they are tempted to pump out the cars and stuff the after sales service.

they dont really care about reputation.

honda and toyota do.

even when they stuff up, they try to rectify the situation.

australia is a hot joint and the roads arent like the autobahns in europe.

you need a pretty tough vehicle.

so look to people who need tough stuff.

the taliban, ISIS, bull catchers in the NT, safari vehicles on the serengetti...usually toyotas.

peugeots and renaults and jeeps are better suited to ferrying the contestants of master chef back and forth to the set

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Reply #58 - Sep 27^th, 2022 at 10:47am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

yeah, i'm probably wrong about jeep

but fiat was boke as was chrysler so two broke companies joined up. peugeot are close to broke, so is nissan.

when they get low on capital they are tempted to pump out the cars and stuff the after sales service.

they dont really care about reputation.

honda and toyota do.

even when they stuff up, they try to rectify the situation.

australia is a hot joint and the roads arent like the autobahns in europe.

you need a pretty tough vehicle.

so look to people who need tough stuff.

the taliban, ISIS, bull catchers in the NT, safari vehicles on the serengetti...usually toyotas.

peugeots and renaults and jeeps are better suited to ferrying the contestants of master chef back and forth to the set

Just so. Ivanka likes to travel by Jeep when she's attending her various fashion events or Goya beans promotions. She's made in Chi-na all the way, but she likes to be seen stepping out of a good old American ve-hi-cle.

Same with Sloppy Steve. You always see him get into a Jeep during his perp walks for his various arraignments. One should always get arrested in style, no? I believe Roger Stone said that.

The scum go down in some godawful armoured school bus or whatever, but the Superior Man has taste: a discrete, American-badged ve-hi-cle. Ivanka should pen a self-help book about it.

We will make America great again, no?

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