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Reply #60 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:24pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
FD's line here seems to be to pretend the worst thing that happened to Yasminn was that she was called an idiot.


Yeah, it's not like she said people who insult the prophet should be beheaded.  Cos that would be OK. 

Free speech innit. 



What does that have to do with Yassmin?
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Reply #61 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
FD's line here seems to be to pretend the worst thing that happened to Yasminn was that she was called an idiot.


Seems so......he ignores all the threats of violence offered her way.  Why is that, Effendi?  Does freedom of speech extend to that sort of crap?  If you were she, would you hang around in a place where retards are able to get away with that schit.......just to test their resolve and commitment to their cause?
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Reply #62 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
Depends on your definition of "right" baranacle.

I think FD's contention is that reacting to her free speech by calling her to be deported - including by elected politicians, racially abusing her and threatening her with gang-rape, to the extent that she was forced to change her residence - doesn't violate her rights.


Precisely.

The right to free speech does not also enshrine the right not to collect a backwash of disapproval from your audience.
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Reply #63 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
Gandalf I recall you were opposed to 18c. Yet you support the Victorian legislation that Blair Cottrel is being charged with. As far as I can tell, the Victorian legislation is worse. What makes you support it but not 18c?
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Reply #64 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:26pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
Depends on your definition of "right" baranacle.

I think FD's contention is that reacting to her free speech by calling her to be deported - including by elected politicians, racially abusing her and threatening her with gang-rape, to the extent that she was forced to change her residence - doesn't violate her rights.


Precisely.

The right to free speech does not also enshrine the right not to collect a backwash of disapproval from your audience.
well said!
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Reply #65 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:27pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
FD's line here seems to be to pretend the worst thing that happened to Yasminn was that she was called an idiot.


Seems so......he ignores all the threats of violence offered her way.  Why is that, Effendi?  Does freedom of speech extend to that sort of crap?  If you were she, would you hang around in a place where retards are able to get away with that schit.......just to test their resolve and commitment to their cause?



It was certainly ok by FD that the Antifa woman he liked to call Mouldylocks suffered the same treatment. Just went on and on about how he disagreed with what she had done. Not a word about what was done to her.
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Reply #66 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:27pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
FD's line here seems to be to pretend the worst thing that happened to Yasminn was that she was called an idiot.


Yeah, it's not like she said people who insult the prophet should be beheaded.  Cos that would be OK. 

Free speech innit. 



What does that have to do with Yassmin?


Apologists like yourself will defend free speech but only from one direction.
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Reply #67 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
Depends on your definition of "right" baranacle.

I think FD's contention is that reacting to her free speech by calling her to be deported - including by elected politicians, racially abusing her and threatening her with gang-rape, to the extent that she was forced to change her residence - doesn't violate her rights.


Precisely.

The right to free speech does not also enshrine the right not to collect a backwash of disapproval from your audience.




Who has questioned the right to disapprove?
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Reply #68 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
FD's line here seems to be to pretend the worst thing that happened to Yasminn was that she was called an idiot.


Yeah, it's not like she said people who insult the prophet should be beheaded.  Cos that would be OK. 

Free speech innit. 



What does that have to do with Yassmin?


Apologists like yourself will defend free speech but only from one direction. 


that's ridiculous.

Would you like to try again? Or just recant your statement?
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Reply #69 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
that's the way FD, keep pretending there weren't calls for her to be raped or killed.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


When do these threats ever get carried out?

It's rhetoric.

Wishful thinking.
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Reply #70 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
While driving north to suck some Aussie beer and check out the Aussie catmeat women at the club... I was pondering on one of the Universe's great secrets...

(pulls up camp chair to fire..."

Now set down a piece and I'll lay it out for you...

Taking France as an example, they've accepted all these Muss-lims as refugees....  so it seems these Muss-lims all settle into ghettoes with crowding, high crime rates and low incomes - remarkably similar to Australia - in which their chances of a job are small and their chances of being robbed etc are high and the endless internecine pressure of tribe against tribe, village against village etc are a serious factor in raising their anger level .... anyway, all that notwithstanding, their declining economic state is now held up as one reason they become 'radicalised'.

Now - I'm only an old bushie here - but it seems to me that if they are becoming 'radicalised' through lack of economic opportunity - they are economic refugees, and not refugees pure and simple...  they came to France looking for a better deal and got a worse one, often through their own choices...

If things are so bad in France, they can always go back home....
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Reply #71 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:29pm
 
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It was certainly ok by FD that the Antifa woman he liked to call Mouldylocks suffered the same treatment. Just went on and on about how he disagreed with what she had done. Not a word about what was done to her.


She got herself into a fight and got punched in the face as a result. No sympathy from me. She would have caused that man serious injury if he had not punched her in the face. She is part of a movement that consciously uses violence and intimidation to silence their opposition. She has threatened many people with violence herself.
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Reply #72 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:31pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
that's the way FD, keep pretending there weren't calls for her to be raped or killed.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


When do these threats ever get carried out?

It's rhetoric.

Wishful thinking.


says the guy who hides under his bed when the neighbour says boo
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Reply #73 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:29pm:
She got herself into a fight and got punched in the face as a result. No sympathy from me. She would have caused that man serious injury if he had not punched her in the face. She is part of a movement that consciously uses violence and intimidation to silence their opposition.


Yes. So she deserved all of those threats of rape and death, her work details, home details, family details and nude photos published all over the internet with express instruction to do her harm?

Much like Yassmin has received? Should know threats of graphic theats of sexual violence and death are to be expected, rrrright? Boys will be boys, after all.

Pfffft. Uppity women , hey?
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Reply #74 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:33pm
 
What nude photos of her?

Who is trying to silence her? Does she even have anything to say?
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