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Question: Do you support this law? [Vic RARTA 2001 S25(2)]

Yes    
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No    
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Undecided    
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Total votes: 9
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Reply #15 - Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I don't think he was charged for criticising the government.



the large numbers of Muslims
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Can you define "large" and please, clearly, define "Muslim".

Thank you.
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Reply #16 - Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:37pm
 
Large: of considerable or relatively great size, extent, or capacity.
Muslim: an adherent of Islam.
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Reply #17 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 12:07am
 
Moriaty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 10:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I don't think he was charged for criticising the government.



the large numbers of Muslims
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Can you define "large" and please, clearly, define "Muslim".

Thank you.



Well - it's not a few dozen - we're talking about 10s of 1000s.
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Reply #18 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 12:27am
 
Mjölnir wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:37pm:
Large: of considerable or relatively great size, .


So a few thousand is a year is "relatively great" when compared to general immigration numbers?

Gilding the lily is one thing, embedding the poor flower in metres of solid gold is another...

Fact's people!

Try facts rather your bombastic and fundamentally flawed statements.

The ease by which you can be proved to be distorters, liars and mis-representer's (sic) is embarrassing to which ever flavour of fantasy based politics you claim to belong to...

Sit down and consider actually living in the moment and appreciating the reality of today rather than the diminutive dream world you wish to inhabit...

#sad #lowenergy #covfefe
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Reply #19 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 12:23pm
 
Would you also like us to define 'number', or can you figure that one out for yourself?

Alinta wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:47pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I don't think he was charged for criticising the government.

When was this law made?


2001

Charged under S 25 (2)....

(2)     A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons, knowingly engage in conduct with the intention of inciting serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other person or class of persons.

Note

"Engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other material.

Penalty:     In the case of a body corporate, 300 penalty units;

In any other case, imprisonment for 6 months or 60 penalty units or both.

    (3)     For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2), conduct—

        (a)     may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over a period of time; and

        (b)     may occur in or outside Victoria.

    (4)     A prosecution for an offence against subsection (1) or (2) must not be commenced without the written consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rarta2001265/


So Victoria has made it illegal to mock religious people?

Was this something to do with 9/11?
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Reply #20 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 12:23pm:
Would you also like us to define 'number', or can you figure that one out for yourself?

Alinta wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:47pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I don't think he was charged for criticising the government.

When was this law made?


2001

Charged under S 25 (2)....

(2)     A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons, knowingly engage in conduct with the intention of inciting serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other person or class of persons.

Note

"Engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other material.

Penalty:     In the case of a body corporate, 300 penalty units;

In any other case, imprisonment for 6 months or 60 penalty units or both.

    (3)     For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2), conduct—

        (a)     may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over a period of time; and

        (b)     may occur in or outside Victoria.

    (4)     A prosecution for an offence against subsection (1) or (2) must not be commenced without the written consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rarta2001265/


So Victoria has made it illegal to mock religious people?

Was this something to do with 9/11?



I suppose it would be the same as
Muslims holding a mock crucifixion outside a proposed church.
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Reply #21 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:24pm
 
Christians hold mock crucifixions all the some. Some a little less mock than you would expect. Christianity has been the butt of jokes, and an increasingly hostile political atheism, for decades.
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Reply #22 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
Christians hold mock crucifixions all the some. Some a little less mock than you would expect. Christianity has been the butt of jokes, and an increasingly hostile political atheism, for decades.


Yes FD,
Religious numbers are declining -
maybe it's all those pedophiles in churches?

Quote:
A 2013 Roy Morgan poll indicated that non-religious Australians comprised approximately 37% of the population.



http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2016/08/09/4515206.htm

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Reply #23 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
Christians hold mock crucifixions all the some. Some a little less mock than you would expect. Christianity has been the butt of jokes, and an increasingly hostile political atheism, for decades.


not quite what bobby suggested though is it FD!
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Reply #24 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:34pm
 
John what do you think of the charges Blair is facing?
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Reply #25 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
John what do you think of the charges Blair is facing?


Sucked in to him.
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Reply #26 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:40pm
 
Do you think the law being used is a good idea?
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Reply #27 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:40pm:
Do you think the law being used is a good idea?


In this case, yes. Would you be whinging if a muslim was making an anti Christianity video and police charged them with the same crime?
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Reply #28 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 9:05pm
 
Muslims make anti Christian videos all the time. Have you ever seen me complain?

In a recent discussion with Gandalf, Gandalf expressed his support for charging the Muslims holding up the beheading placards. I disagreed with him. Unlike you, I am consistent in my views. I don't change my mind about whether a law is good or bad depending on who is getting charged at the moment.

Do you?
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Reply #29 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 9:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Muslims make anti Christian videos all the time. Have you ever seen me complain?


that's a trick question, right?

freediver wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Do you?


nope. I think anyone promoting hatred deserves to go to jail. I don't care what religion they are.
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