My thoughts are that anyone who'd believe this absolute nonsense would have to be a complete half wit.

Adamant wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:50pm:


I don't have any doubts at all. There is absolutely no evidence of Hindu presence in Makkah. The claims made in that article are just plain silly.

For instance, the claim about the number 786. Firstly, Muslims do not believe in numerology. The reason some Muslims in the sub-continent do use this number is because it's the numerical representation of the basmalah, the opening phrase of the Qur'an.

Adamant wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:50pm:


Yes pagan Arabs did defile the Ka'abah with their debaucherous rituals, that doesn't make it a Hindu temple. Roman pagans defiled the site of the Jewish temple with pagan rituals, but again that doesn't make it a pagan temple.

Islam is a monotheistic bastardization of the pre-Islamic polytheistic religion followed by the inhabitants of 7th century Arabia.
Its pagan heritage is clearly evident in it's rock-worship. 
Mohammed's attempt to link the Kaaba to Abraham is evidence of his complete misunderstanding of the Jewish tradition which he used to bastardise the pagan Arab tradition.
He made Islam simoultaneously a parody of paganism AND of monotheism. That he was able to perpetrate this parody on the Arabs is no accident either.

Interesting stats Adam. It paints a very different picture to the terrorism stats that Muslims post to make it seem like Islaic terrorism is not such a problem after all (these always seem to leave off the body count and appear to equate graffitti with math murder).

Do you have more general stats for broader time periods?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Can you tell me what exactly is supposedly pagan about using a lunar calendar? All calendars rely upon the movement of astral bodies, that's just a fact of measuring time (for all of recorded history). There's nothing specifically pagan about it.

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


I also heard breathing air was pagan... no?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Even if this were the case, how is that pagan?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Again, how is it pagan?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Not quite sure what the significance of the word "only" is here, you've used it a few times though... is this something to do with some kind of delusion about supremacy in numbers or something?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Firstly the Torah is a component of the Bible, so saying "Torah and Bible" is redundant. Do you even know a little bit about the stuff you're pretending to be an authority on?

Secondly, on what basis do you state "supposed to be from a completely new and original source"?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Which two books? The ones you didn't realise one is a component of the other?

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


I don't know what on earth you're waffling on about here... but please do amuse me and explain what you think this means.

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


Who said you need to understand Arabic to understand the Qur'an? This is absolute fantasy on your part. The Qur'an is for all mankind, Arab-speaking or not. You will not fully appreciate its linguistic miracle without understanding the Arabic language, true. But that's not what you're speaking about here.

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


I very much doubt you even know anything about what it contains. You're an ignoramus.

Adamant wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:


That website is absolute bollocks. Most of the stuff on it cannot be substantiated, and of those that can the motives and perpetrators are often concocted for the propaganda purposes of the site's agenda. Also it claims that the non-Muslims killed nobody, yet hundreds of thousands of their troops are occupying the Muslim lands, murdering people day in day out... why isn't it registering on this supposed "scorecard"? Why? Because it's a load of bollocks, and if you had half a neuron you'd know it.

Interesting tit bit for your edification Abu.

This was in the site you think is full of crap, do you sympathize with her hate or do you prefer the fact that she is moronic piece of camel dung?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dTWlXRnZbVc

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:10pm:


After the time of Ibrahim & Isma'eel (peace be upon them), the Arabs slowly declined into paganism, and began to defile the house their ancestors once used as a place of worship for the one true God.

This was thousands of years before Muhammad's (pbuh) time.