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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #165 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 12:35am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:27pm:
falah wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 8:13am:
...It even has calls for more violence between settlers and aborigines...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338172056


More lies Freeliar. You really can't help yourself can you?

It is good for people to see that the Islam-haters are liars.

Your stupidity harms your own cause.


Quotes from Falah:

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The thesis in its entirety demonstrates how interaction with Muslims saved the Arnhem Land Aboriginies from being genocided by European Christians like what happedned everywhere else in Australia.


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The Yolngu had seen white Dutch in their travels to Indonesia. They had been told to be wary of the whites, and knew they needed to resist them, and they knew how to deal with them.


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Indigenous people in northern coastal areas visited by Macassans were prepared to fight invaders from the earliest instances, unlike their Southern counterparts whose timidity often allowed European settlers to gain a strong foothold that made resistance more difficult.


How should we interpret this Falah? Would the southern aborigines have been better off if they knew about and used more violent strategies?


If the Southern Aborigines had managed to defend themselves better, they might still own the land.


Can you prove your lie that my thesis calls for more violence?

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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #166 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 9:43am
 
Adamant wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 2:59pm:
Soren look at how the muslims are trying to change history.

From this incident we've learn't that Jagged 85 is the main contributor to the many inaccurate Islam/Science/Golden Age articles which are still being copied and pasted all over the internet by Muslims, and that more than 20% of Wikipedia's "Timeline of historic inventions" was provided by him.

With contributions to over 8,100 separate articles, it is unlikely that all of Jagged 85's edits will ever be fixed. And even if they were, these Wikipedia articles have already been reproduced all over the net by other sites which use Wikipedia as a source.

While Wikipedia can be a great resource for general knowledge and a decent starting point in the research of Islam, this and the other examples cited above, highlight the constant problems that Wikipedia faces for Islam related articles.

This page is featured in the core article, Islam and Propaganda which serves as a starting point for anyone wishing to learn more about this topic

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam,_Science_and_the_Problems_at_Wikipedia



Just so, thanks.

The disinterested pursuit of knowledge is an incomprehensible notion for an Islamist (as it is for a committed Marxist-Leninist or fascist).

The Golden Age o Islam, when Arabs supposedly saved ancient books for posterity, is a perennial reminder: the ARabs didn't do the translation (converts and dhimmis did who learned Arabic) and only books that supported Islam were translated.

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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #167 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 10:35am
 
Soren wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 9:43am:
The Golden Age o Islam, when Arabs supposedly saved ancient books for posterity, is a perennial reminder: the ARabs didn't do the translation (converts and dhimmis did who learned Arabic) and only books that supported Islam were translated.




What you desperately ignore is Muslim governments' role in motivating translations of ancient Greek and Persian texts.

In some cases Muslim governments offered the book's weight in gold as a reward for translation. This demonstrates a clear commitment to learning unparallelled at the time in Europe where Christian clergy discouraged common folk from learning to read at all.
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Reply #168 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 11:00am
 
Which books?
And who did the translations?



You are a living example of Muslim hostility towards any non-Muslim ideas that do not support Mohammed. Not being critical of Mohammed and the Koran is a cornerstone of your 'knowledge' and has been sinth the 7th century.
Disinterested knowledge is anathema to Muslims, has been for ever.

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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #169 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 1:00pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 11:00am:
You are a living example of Muslim hostility towards any non-Muslim ideas that do not support Mohammed. Not being critical of Mohammed and the Koran is a cornerstone of your 'knowledge' and has been sinth the 7th century.
Disinterested knowledge is anathema to Muslims, has been for ever.




The Greek classics preserved by Muslim governments were all Quranic commentaries were they?

You are morally and intellectualy bankrupt Sore One.
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Reply #170 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 5:49pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 1:00pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 11:00am:
You are a living example of Muslim hostility towards any non-Muslim ideas that do not support Mohammed. Not being critical of Mohammed and the Koran is a cornerstone of your 'knowledge' and has been sinth the 7th century.
Disinterested knowledge is anathema to Muslims, has been for ever.




The Greek classics preserved by Muslim governments were all Quranic commentaries were they?

You are morally and intellectualy bankrupt Sore One.



Didn't say they were Koranic commentaries, you devious little dissembler.
I said their sole interest was in texts that supported Islamic doctrine - religious and legal - that is why there was ZERO translation of ancient literature. Not allowed or not interested.

When was the Iliad and the Odyssey first translated into Arabic? Ovid? Pindar, Hesiod, Aristophanes? No poetry, no histories, no picaresque novels, no dramas, no comedies.

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Re: Islam is a barrier to peace
Reply #171 - Jun 5th, 2012 at 7:09pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 12:35am:
If the Southern Aborigines had managed to defend themselves better, they might still own the land.


Falah, which do you think would have been the most likely outcome in the Mildura or similar areas?

a) they would have retained ownership of the land

b) they would be dead

falah wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 12:35am:
Can you prove your lie that my thesis calls for more violence?


Can you prove your lie that I lied by making that claim about your thesis?
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