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Message started by Captain Nemo on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:47am

Title: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:47am
They usually say: "The polls always tighten closer to the actual election" ... what happens when the polls are already 50-50 6 months out?  ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:46am
I predict the election will be in March, weekend the 22,23rd.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:35am

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:46am:
I predict the election will be in March, weekend the 22,23rd.


Could be. Labor might want to avoid doing another Budget.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:47am
Parties 1 & 2 - People 0.

I predict a whitewash of Labor - but jeez - with that Opposition? 

A rush of Indepedendents, sadly people still want to believe in the Madonna complex, which is why they imagine voting in TEALs will generate a more loving home of Australia... you can't vote in more vapid middle 'class' sheilas and actually expect them to know WTF they are doing.... other than enjoying the sweet life doing nothing and crying about how hard it is ... perfect JOB for a sheila - except these aren't jobs or careers - they are duties to the people... do the job or get out!

It will take a few evolutions for the people to work out that it's past time to ditch all the parties , and actually work out what is and what is not important and even real.  Nonsense like 'the voice' and 'wage gap' are not remotely real.... all this gonad cutting is not real.... all these 'commissions' filled up with old mates and used to circumvent the law and courts and act as Star chambers need to go .... get rid of the governor-general after that last debacle of yet another old mate copping a sweet ride for life ... enough of this government handing out these lovely 'posts' like some smacking Feudal Lords Dominant Over All  (I will give you a thousand acres!!  Best way is to cut out these 'jobs' without any worth).. I guess we'll just have to become a Republic... can still be part of the BritCom ... Chuckie can still be King Without Power and a friendly visiting monarch we all adore...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:05pm
At State level, due to the backblast from the Voice By Stealth, which has not gone unnoticed despite the relative media silence over it - most people commenting on anything related to it are boiling mad and lusting for vengeance over a government that went directly against their wishes - Labor will suffer like they did in the NT - again, jeez - look at the Opposition...  FFS.. what have we got that's any good for this country?

In NSW I don't even know who the Opposition leader is.... I heard someone say it was another Dago named Fuktifino or something... Jesus, them Dagoes know where the easy money is.

Country's in dire straits - divided against itself as never before - all the good will that went to the Cheers following Ruddski's groveling apology has vanished now given their hostility and endless demands without merit - and Albo's voice farce put an end to it.  Slowly but surely people are waking up and are standing their ground...  they said NO once - they'll do it again, and again, and they will not be silenced this time by abuse or violence or threats.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:08pm
Can't vote on that poll - might disturb the spirits or something and bring on disaster for the people - again.

**day dreams**  Ah yes - just like the Good Old Days of the Weimar Republic.... the 'Left' are hopeless liars; the 'Soft Right' are hopeless liars; the rest of the Leftists and Rightists are useless empty seats.... unable to form a government perhaps the politicians could just decide to hand over dictatorship to a Neo-Hitler type of either Left or Right, and rely on the democratic process to control him (it won't be a 'her' - women in power are not considered 'strong') ... and then the fun will begin.  Many good things might eventuate - the Sydney to Brisbane Autobahn might be finished etc... people will be ordered into homes and jobs...... a schtrong military will be built up ....national resources and virtues will become paramount ... and the Gauleiters currently controlling the various departments will behave according to the FuhrerPrinzip, take orders from the top ONLY!!... and they will only occdasionally actually meet with der Fuhrer and get some guidelines - otherwise they will just rampage across the land at their whim, fully trusted by Das Reich.  The Ministry of Abo Affairs (MAA, MAA) will apportion out the land to its pets and will enforce removal of Der Chews occupying it now, resume their property .... The Ministry of Justice will ensure that justice is the sole prerogative of the State at its whim ... The Ministry for Fair Pay will ensure that some are paid more per hour to make up for the hours they don't work (sort of an old mate sheila governor-general gig, where they make up this terrible wage gap of her never having served and getting service super by giving her a calculated equivalent - now that's 'The Wage Gap' for you, right there and written loud - sheilas being paid more for actually doing less!) ....

The position we find ourselves in here today, with these useless and ineffectual parties wrecking everything, is so similar it just isn't funny, even down to the concept that the New Chews are Invaders and must be moved off Volks land and Der Vrei Volk must have precedence in everything........ none so blind as you lot with your buckets of bleach ...  on the count of three - duck heads again...

Advance Australia - Where?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:19pm
The teals will be interesting to watch.

They are going full tilt in Duddos  electorate and I predict on the back of their vote Duddo will retain his seat.

Labor would be upset! They could easily upset the Lnp and take the seat otherwise.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm

Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Sep 29th, 2024 at 12:37am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


We need more people to stand as True Independents.... not allied or associated with any party.... and prepared to put their full platform up for scrutiny....

When elected - my government will:-

.Immediately ban all 'gender transition' treatments for minors apart from psychiatric care.
.Re-open all National Parks and Public Lands to all equally - National Parks are in use as National Parks on a permanent basis, and Public Land is Public Land - not something to be handed to a private group without full and proper process as pertains to all equally.
.Drain the swamps of public service organisations and 'commissions' and make them lean and mean and keen, with special focus on those that support division by advocating for only one or a few groups, and not all equally.
.Abandon and revoke all 'treaties' signed with our own citizens, and resume all lands given unreasonably, reverting their holding instead into blocks of land for each family to live on or sell if they wish, determined on merit alone.
.Legally preclude the states from playing with 'treaties'.
.Will institute a 'reverse boat people policy', wherein malefactors of all kinds who show no sign of changing their ways will be placed on 'boat people' boats and transported back to the country of the 'people smuggler'.
.Will offer onshore processing of refugees, a fair opportunity to learn a useful skill while being processed, and then settlement here for those validated.
.Will develop a reasonable and reasoned immigration program, and will take a firm stand on excluding those who will not fit in without trouble.
.Will develop a program to deport those born here who persist in adhering to the wrongful kinds of 'traditions' of their 'old country' to the detriment of this country.
.Will develop a Provisional Citizenship system, wherein a person must show assimilation, working towards self-sufficiency, and respect for the law of this land and of those in it, or have citizenship revoked.
.Will formulate policy that those who state they are not citizens of this country and bound by the same rules as everyone else, will have their citizenship canceled, will be obliged to apply for visas on merit, and will receive no benefits of citizenship.

Just a one page simple request.... you understand..... a statement from the heart ..... simple really.... we haven't got to the re-education camps yet.... round up The Usual Suspects.... clean out the tent cities of Gaza Luvvahs etc and send 'em for an indeterminate period of re-education... when their minds are right they get out.... on parole...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:54am
So, we are approaching the "killing season" in Federal politics ... will someone in the Labor Cabinet make a move on Albo?   ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by tallowood on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:11am
Will US elections results influence Australian elections and if so which way?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:27am

tallowood wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:11am:
Will US elections results influence Australian elections and if so which way?


Zero impact. it never does unless by coincidental cycle alignment.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:30am

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:54am:
So, we are approaching the "killing season" in Federal politics ... will someone in the Labor Cabinet make a move on Albo?   ;)


I suspect not but have not been following closely. I would say a slightly lower probability than someone peeling the potato. If the Liberals only had a person fit to lead potato head would be chips.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:53am
If there were thoughts of someone making a move on Albo ... I'm guessing it won't be Richard Marles!   ;D

Top Marles staffer claims she was ‘bullied’ out of job



In an emotional press conference, Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles’s chief of staff Jo Tarnawsky has appealed to Anthony Albanese to intervene, alleging she was bullied, pushed aside and prevented from doing her job for the past five months.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 13th, 2024 at 9:18pm
Newspoll: 51-49 to Coalition

Marginal changes on the primary vote prove sufficient to give the Coalition a two-party lead in Newspoll for the first time this term.

The latest Newspoll records a two-party lead for the Coalition for the first time since this term, at 51-49 after a 50-50 result three weeks ago, though both major parties are unchanged on the primary vote, Labor at 31% and the Coalition at 38%.
The movement is down to a one-point drop for the Greens to 12% and a one-point increase for One Nation to 7%. Anthony Albanese is down three on approval to 40% and up three on disapproval to 54%, edging out past results in August (41% and 54%) and last November (40% and 53%) as his worst net result for the term. Peter Dutton is respectively up one to 38% and steady at 52%, with preferred prime minister narrowing from 46-37 to 45-37. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1258.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 15th, 2024 at 11:31am
Anthony Albanese buys $4.3 million ‘clifftop perfection’ property.

Wow, the optics of this during a cost of living crisis.   ::)

Blimey, couldn't wait six months? This kind of stuff proves he has lost any political nous he may have once had.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 21st, 2024 at 8:50am
The monthly Freshwater Strategy poll in the Financial Review has the Coalition with a lead of 51-49, a slight improvement for Labor on a 52-48 result last time.

The primary votes are all but entirely unchanged, with Labor steady on 30%, the Coalition down one to 41% and the Greens steady on 13%.

Despite the headline result, the changes on personal ratings favour the Coalition, with Anthony Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrowing from 45-41 to 44-43.

Peter Dutton is up three on approval to 37% and up one on disapproval to 39%, while Anthony Albanese is up one to 35% and steady on 49%.

The poll also got in quick with a question on the Prime Minister’s headline-grabbing $4.3 million property purchase last week, finding 36% saying it had worsened their view of him, 4% that it had improved it, and 52% that it had no impact. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1034.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 21st, 2024 at 11:29am
It's far too early to make any definitive predictions. While I would have preferred Labor to perform better, they must still be held accountable for falling short of expectations. But does that necessarily warrant their removal from office?

The alternatives are undeniably worse, and we need to find a middle ground. However, I hope that doesn’t result in another unstable Labor/Greens minority government.

The only safe prediction I can make at this stage is that, regardless of the outcome, the usual suspects will insist the results validate their pre-existing obsessions. Reality hasn’t held much sway with them thus far, and I see no reason why that should change any time soon. Calling this a prediction may be a cheap shot, given its inevitability, but it’s simply too early to offer anything more informed.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:24am
After ticking in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago, the latest Essential Research poll ticks back with a four point drop to 28% (down a point on two polls ago), while the Coalition recovers the point it lost last time to hit 35%.

The Greens are steady on 12%, One Nation is down one to 7%, and undecided component is up one to 6%.

The pollster’s 2PP+ measure, which has shown a tight tussle for around a year now, has the Coalition up one to 48% and Labor down three to 46%.

The poll also includes the monthly leadership ratings, which give Peter Dutton his best results to date, his approval up three to 45% and disapproval down three to 39%. Anthony Albanese is up two to 44% and up one on disapproval to 48%.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:28am



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:56am
And ... as another nail in Albo Labor's coffin:

AEMO head ‘cannot guarantee’ cheaper power under current roadmap

Australian Energy Market Operator chief executive Daniel Westerman has told a Senate committee that the electricity market roadmap was on the ‘lowest cost pathway’ but that was no guarantee for consumers of electricity prices coming down.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 12:37pm
Australian elections are irrelevant. Nothing changes after an election. All the promises expired on election night.

WGAF.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 1:34pm
You left out - "Deep Sorrow For Voters Whichever".

You KNOW our politicians are a few boats short of a ferry service .... in many ways .....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 1:35pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:56am:
And ... as another nail in Albo Labor's coffin:

AEMO head ‘cannot guarantee’ cheaper power under current roadmap

Australian Energy Market Operator chief executive Daniel Westerman has told a Senate committee that the electricity market roadmap was on the ‘lowest cost pathway’ but that was no guarantee for consumers of electricity prices coming down.


Yeah - that's the way - got to have an overpaid and over-perked 'chief executive' for Moving Deck Chairs .... to do a job a clerk could do and already does.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 3:46pm
If Albo Labor was banking on a rate cut just prior to next year's Federal election, they may be facing yet another nail in the coffin if this inflation prediction is correct:


IMF inflation warning: World goes low as we stay high

The IMF has issued a grim inflation outlook for Australia.

Australia’s run of high inflation is on track to exceed all advanced economies except Slovakia’s, ­according to new IMF forecasts that will increase pressure on the ­Albanese government.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:02pm
Election day, 2025, from the perspective of the voters .........

.....like a lonely Australian traveler on a moonless night, who, hearing footsteps behind him, fears to turn around, so instead raises and looks in a mirror darkly.......... and so views what band of loathsome beasts is shuffling its way towards Canberra this time around ...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:52am
“mired in mediocrity”   ;D  Nailed it!


Kim Carr’s memoir is an elegy for older-style Labor politics. Only time will tell if it’s an elegy for the Labor project itself
Frank Bongiorno

The former senior minister seems nostalgic for a time when the ALP could rely on a large base of blue-collar workers and their families


The moniker ‘true believer’ could almost have been invented for former Labor minister Kim Carr, writes ANU prof Frank Bongiorno. His memoir adds him to a chorus of former party heavyweights criticising the Albanese government. Photograph: Mick Tsikas/AAP


The moniker “true believer” could almost have been invented for Kim Carr. Indeed, he began his almost 30-year Senate career at the very election, 1993, that Paul Keating claimed had been a “victory for the true believers”.

His career was devoted to the proposition that if Australia embraced new technologies and developed the right skill base, it could still make things – an idea that seems to be fashionable in federal Labor government circles again.

It, therefore, matters that he has joined the growing number of former senior Labor politicians who have become increasingly critical of the direction of the Albanese government.

Carr is critical of the small target strategy that Anthony Albanese used to get into office, his policies being “more like running repairs than substantial reforms”. The party, says Carr, has become alienated from low-income voters, leaning in to an “identity politics” that has caused it to lose touch with its traditional support base – whose welfare was really Labor’s raison d’être.

Carr could fairly be described as “old school Labor”. His memoir, A Long March, published this month by Monash University Publishing, does nothing to dispel that impression.

Carr, the product of a working-class family – his father was a boilermaker – joined the Labor party in 1975 amid the outrage over the dismissal of the Whitlam government. He was a senior minister in the Rudd and Gillard governments, as minister for innovation, industry, science and research. He played an important role in forming the Rudd-Gillard “dream team” in 2006. He was a victim of its later disintegration, which resulted in Julia Gillard’s demotion of him.

Carr cannot be dismissed as a lone voice, for he is among several former Labor heavyweights deeply worried about the government’s direction. Others include former New South Wales premier Bob Carr, former foreign minister Gareth Evans and – the hardest critic of all – former prime minister Paul Keating, all mostly concerned with Aukus. Bill Kelty, an architect of Labor’s Accord of the 1980s and 1990s and former Australian Council of Trade Unions leader of deep influence in that era, has described the government as “mired in mediocrity”.

Recent media commentary suggests that some present government members, including Albanese, are finding this running commentary frustrating. But it is not new for former leaders to criticise aspects of government policy from the sidelines after they have ceased to be active politicians. Gough Whitlam had some hard things to say about the government run by Bob Hawke and Keating on occasion, such as the reintroduction of university fees. Keating was critical of the Whitlam government’s economic performance. Whitlam responded in kind, calling him “a smart-arse”. No one seemed unduly worried on either side.

It seems different now. While getting re-elected was no doddle in the 1980s and 1990s, governments seem to have an even more precarious existence these days. If they are more sensitive to the criticism of party elders, it possibly reflects a stronger sense of the fragility of their hold on power.

There is also the question of whether the critics are imagining a past that was better than it actually was. Carr can sometimes seem nostalgic for a Labor party able to rely on a large base of blue-collar workers and their families for support in an economy that still employed large numbers of workers in manufacturing, mining and transport. Senior Labor figures of the 1980s on the right of the party, such as Keating or Bob Carr, who were notably pro-American when in office, can seem inconsistent or even hypocritical when offering meaty criticism of the government for positioning itself too closely to the United States today.

It is, however, alarming to learn from Carr’s memoir of the lack of debate within the opposition under Albanese when Scott Morrison presented it with the fait accompli of Aukus in 2021. There was no caucus vote on its acceptance. And, since Labor came to office, it has been hard to discern in the party’s internal affairs since then the kind of robust debate and disagreement that has previously been a feature of the Labor party when it contemplates foreign and defence policy. As we are often reminded by those who look back to “better” times, Hawke was overruled by his own party in the mid-1980s after he agreed to allow America to test MX missiles off the Australian coast.

...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:54am
Every federal Labor government since Andrew Fisher’s in 1910 – the first to win a national election – has been criticised by people on its side of politics for not going far enough or fast enough. The Albanese government is no different in that respect. But the word “timidity” is increasingly being thrown about when the government is mentioned, and it does not have the positive spin of the “caution” or “moderation” heard earlier in the government’s life.

Carr’s A Long March is, in some respects, an elegy for an older kind of Labor politics. Only time will tell if it turns out to be an elegy for the Labor project itself.

Frank Bongiorno is Professor of History at the Australian National University and is in conversation with Kim Carr at the Canberra Writers festival on 27 October

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/kim-carr-memoir-elegy-labor-rudd-gillard-alp


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:58am
Nobody wants idiot Dutton in power other than the Murdoch press.

Liberals have been led by a string of idiots and the Liberal political body rejected intellectuals like Turnbull.

There will never be an intellectual Liberal Prime Minister, only idiots like Abbott and Dutton.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:23am
I already feel sorry for Weeping Queensland... whichever way it goes.... a disaster for all... and potential for the outbreak of Civil War.

Secede Now!  Note Gon'Mo Island north of West Malaria....
Queensland_coloured_states_meme.jpg (161 KB | 19 )

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:50am
Get help.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:54am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:50am:
Get help.


I'll send it to you as soon as I can find someone near you....

Just one look at that map shows you how big the dog is that this Brisdrain tail is wagging with all its Madness Modern Educated Mk 1.  I notice the fifteen plus huge freehold land claims aren't in their backyards ....... of course not - it's only the semi-educated hill billies out there who can be affected......   8-)  8-)  8-)  8-)





Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 26th, 2024 at 12:00pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 26th, 2024 at 12:34pm
We know - it's all too much to handle this reality....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bias_2012 on Oct 26th, 2024 at 1:52pm
We ought to call in the administrators and abandon the Elite's democracy. Bring in something new, for the people. The Libs and Labs are eons past their use-by date, their psyches are from prehistoric times, no one thinks like them anymore

This is how they think ...

Millions of immigrants when there's no housing - just madness

Proposing nuclear power plants when nuclear is going out of fashion - more madness

$368 billion for submarines with no money to pay for them - extreme madness

National social security bill going through the roof - insane

Yes, we need to close Parliament and put Australia under administration while we minimize the overbearing influence of the ALP, the Coalition, and their supporters








Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 26th, 2024 at 2:00pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 1:52pm:
We ought to call in the administrators and abandon the Elite's democracy. Bring in something new, for the people. The Libs and Labs are ions past their use-by date, their psyches are from prehistoric times, no one thinks like them anymore

This is how they think ...

Millions of immigrants when there's no housing - just madness

Proposing nuclear power plants when nuclear is going out of fashion - more madness

$368 billion for submarines with no money to pay for them - extreme madness

National social security bill going through the roof - insane

Yes, we need to close Parliament and put Australia under administration while we minimize the overbearing influence of the ALP, the Coalition, and their supporters


Ask not what your country can do for you.

Give until it hurts and then some.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:34pm
It’s going too be a labor minority government answering too the greens negotiating with teals and independents.

This is why the labor dogs are so vocal atm attacking the greens.

Once government is formed suddenly they all be best friends again. Just like the Rudd: Gillard: Rudd; Chinese years

I’ve all ready put money on it.

Nobody voted Albo in last election.
We voted Scomo out

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Oct 26th, 2024 at 8:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.


Maybe - How sad for all Australians.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Oct 26th, 2024 at 8:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.


Maybe - How sad for all Australians.



At least Dutton can manage money -

Labor never could.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:39am

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:34pm:
It’s going too be a labor minority government answering too the greens negotiating with teals and independents.

This is why the labor dogs are so vocal atm attacking the greens.

Once government is formed suddenly they all be best friends again. Just like the Rudd: Gillard: Rudd; Chinese years

I’ve all ready put money on it.

Nobody voted Albo in last election.
We voted Scomo out


"Nobody voted Albo in last election.
We voted Scomo out"


Nailed it!  8-)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:58am
Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club: Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades


PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Oct 27th, 2024 at 3:48pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club: Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades


PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.



As long as Albo registered the bribes it's OK.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 27th, 2024 at 10:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club: Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades


PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.



As long as Albo registered the bribes it's OK.


Pretty sus when you think about how Qatar Airways was restricted by the government eh?  ;)

Any link there in protecting Qantas from increased competition?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 11:46am
The Qantas flight path under Joyce: high-flyer to nosedive
Joe Aston’s book about Qantas examines the murky relationship between the nation’s politicians and the Flying Kangaroo.



The Treasurer never asked former Qantas chairman Alan Joyce for upgrades but accepted one for himself and his family in 2018



Any link to Albo Labor helping Qantas by blocking Qatar Airways?

Just a coincidence?  ::)


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:16am
I'll give you another prediction about Albo post election loss:-

He'll make a statement, regarding the voice insanity, that he never realised how deep seated racism was in the average Australian's heart.... and that's the only reason his disastrous idea failed....

Talk about out of touch with real democracy and real equality etc.... to his kind, real equality is being handed specials every five minutes.... things that nobody else gets... started with the feminists years ago - and I saw the writing on the wall then... now look at the state of the country.... for real without the rose coloured glasses.

Namby-pambying has lead to:-

firstly, out of control youth, many such living the gangstah life and thinking it's the way things are and is good fun, many die as a result of their own actions, and many end up lifetime criminals as a result - then there is the introduction, as a measure to halt this, of the Midnight Express I warned you all about - the NT shipping baddies 1500 miles away for 're-education'.. I Told You So!

secondly, out of control Aboriginal demands and behaviour and the totally incorrect assumption on the part of many such that they are Entitled™ to anything they want or want to do, since they are told over and over what victims they've been.  The fact that they are mostly victims of their own unwillingness to accept that things have changed is ignored; that nobody forces them to crimes is ignored; that nobody forces them to live where they do and how they do is ignored; that the cries of 'Whartey's Way made us violent to our women etc' are made absurd by the reality that remote communities are the worst at it - all to satisfy 'the narrative' that somehow they are 'owed' far more than those penniless convicts, early Free Settlers, refugees and so forth who came here and built a better life under the prevailing new standards.  I Told You So!

thirdly - read the second - the same in many cases applies to certain kinds of immigrant populations... and in some cases that is made even worse by their bringing here ancient feuds to the death ... madness....  I Told You So!

Anyway - there's more but you need to do your own work - that way you actually 'own' your resolutions of issues and your resolves to do something.  THINK on it.... DO something... I can't do it all for you.   8-)


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 11:35am



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 5th, 2024 at 3:18pm
The move to cut HECS debt will go over well with younger voters I reckon, but Labor will need to do something substantial for the older groups because Labor has the younger voting group sewn up already:


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 7th, 2024 at 9:52am
There is a world-wide rejection of incumbent governments and a world-wide rejection of "woke" agendas, so what does Freebie Albanese come up with?

"Banning" under 16s from social media.  ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:41am
That's to undercut their access to information and chat rooms about cutting off their balls and tits etc, as well as getting them - hopefully - to concentrate more on their study.

Great idea - stops them being crowd-pushed into 'transgender' or drugs or being poof or whatever, stops bullies networking to 'get' others etc... something young girls excel at - along with sucking up sweetly to the teacher so the boy gets blamed for it, keeps them away from porn and twisted ideas of sex and such ... imagine girls (and boys) of thirteen being groomed online to do BJs and such and take it up the tail pipe and into thinking they MUST 'give out' early and even that under-age pregnancy is the go-to thing ....  FFS ....

Best idea any advisory to the government body came up with - and parents will agree totally - it's hardly an Albo initiative.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:04am
Unenforceable, indeed there will be no penalties.

Not retrospective.

It was "against the law mate" to smoke and drink alcohol too.

This can't actually work and gives the owners of social media platforms even more excuse to fail to monitor posts, since it will now be "against the law mate" for younger kids.

They will claim that anything goes coz everyone is now over 16 on here.  :(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:11am
Parental empowerment returns..... one bit at a time .... at the heart of every politician lies the soul of a dictator fashioned by his/her own upbringing  ....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:47pm
The fortnightly Essential Research poll has Labor bouncing back three points on the primary vote after a four-point slump last time, to 31%, with the Coalition down a point to 34%, the Greens steady on 12% and One Nation up two to 9%, with the undecided component down a point to 5%.

Labor’s improvement does not flow through to the 2PP+ measure, on which the Coalition’s lead shifts from 48-46 to 49-47. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1131.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 10th, 2024 at 10:24pm
First Newspoll result from The Australian in four weeks, showing the Coalition with an unchanged two-party lead of 51-49.

Both major parties are up two on the primary vote, Labor to 33% and the Coalition to 40%, with the Greens down one to 11% and One Nation down two to 5%.

Anthony Albanese is steady on 40% approval and up one on disapproval to 55%, while Peter Dutton is up two on approval to 40% and down one on disapproval to 51%.

Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows from 45-37 to 45-41. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1261.

Nine Newspapers has the monthly Resolve Strategic poll has Labor unchanged on 30%, the Coalition up one to 39%, the Greens down one to 11%, One Nation steady on 5%, independent down one to 11% and others up one to 4%.

Two-party preferred somewhere between 50-50 and 51-49 to the Coalition, based on preference flows at the 2022 election.

Anthony Albanese is up two on approval to 37% and down one on disapproval to 51%, while Peter Dutton is up four to 45% and down one to 40%.

The two leaders are tied 37-37 on preferred prime minister, after Albanese led 38-35 last time.




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 13th, 2024 at 8:50am
It all adds to the negative perception of Labor.

Cbusted: Union-linked fund’s super-sized betrayal of the grieving
One of the nation’s biggest super funds, Cbus, will face the Federal Court over alleged mishandling of $20m in insurance money, imperilling the political standing of its chairman, Labor Party president Wayne Swan.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 13th, 2024 at 9:59am
Well - so far I've predicted the NT, Queensland, and Trump - missed out on the Gaga Strip - the ACT .... but you know what they're like... they imagine they are all 'activist' down there...

So when I say AlboCorp will see the rear of the field all the way - I mean it.  Albo sank Labor with the 'voice' madness; then the Voice By Stealth via the states; the continuing addiction of Labor to the lies of feminism about 'poor underpaid women' etc; the quantum leap of Labor from a national wage case to a 'sector bargaining' concept (see teachers, police and nurses in NSW - policy of division and isolation of each group for easy disposal one at a time) under the tutelage of the rather odd-looking ACTU 'president' (easy to see what we have there - same old, same old); the direct assault on one of the few remaining man-dominated Unions with any power (they must think we're all stupid out here);** the craven approach to ultravicious Gazan/Hezbollah genocide attempts against Israel; Wong's clearly shown ineptitude in the international sphere; the inability of Labor to come to grips with the Aboriginal problem but instead to make it all worse; and now The Rudd Legacy - Curse Of The Bigmouth ..... well ..... what can you expect but a whitewash across Australia?

**I can understand Labor wanting to upgrade its propaganda arm in schools etc so as to advance 'The Cause' - and upgrade/pay off its enforcement arm so as to have them more malleable and under orders to attack any 'right wing' movements but cheer on the 'left' and other murderous lunatics - for 'The Cause' .... but why are they running down the nurses and ambos?

Anyway - Labor has shot itself down this time...


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2755137618090190

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:01am

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:40am
WOW!

This has just blown a hole in Albo's anti-nuclear campaign.  ;D

UK and US join forces to speed up advanced nuclear technologies
New agreement for civil nuclear collaboration signed by UK and US at COP29 in Baku, helping strengthen energy security.


The United Kingdom and United States have joined forces at COP29 to speed up the deployment of cutting-edge nuclear technology to help decarbonise industry and boost energy security.

The UK Energy Secretary Ed Miliband and US Deputy Secretary of Energy David Turk have today (Monday 18 November) signed a new agreement while in Baku for climate talks that will help pool together billions of pounds worth of nuclear research and development – including the world’s leading academic institutions and nuclear innovators.

The UK will take a leading role in the forum, which aims to support information-sharing on advanced nuclear technologies and make them available for use in industry by 2030. 

New technologies such as advanced modular reactors can help decarbonise heavy industry such as aviation fuel, hydrogen or advanced steel production, by providing low-carbon heat and power. They are also smaller and can be made in factories, making them quicker and cheaper to build.

This will support the commitment made last year at COP28 to triple nuclear energy capacity globally by 2050, with 31 countries signed up including the US and UK.

The UK is reversing a legacy of no nuclear being delivered and moving forward with its advanced nuclear reactor programme and Great British Nuclear’s small modular reactor competition, as well as continuing development of the Sizewell C project. New nuclear will help to secure thousands of good, skilled jobs and support energy independence beyond 2030.

Energy Secretary Ed Miliband said:

Nuclear will play a vital role in our clean energy future.

That is why we are working closely with our allies to unleash the potential of cutting-edge nuclear technology.

Advanced nuclear technology will help decarbonise industry by providing low-carbon heat and power, supporting new jobs and investment here in the UK.

As part of this new agreement, the Generation IV International Forum will no longer include Russia – ensuring future collaborations remain among mutually willing parties who respect nuclear safety norms.

The new agreement will come into force from 1 March 2025 and is expected to also be signed by: Canada, France, Japan, Republic of Korea, Republic of South Africa, China, Euratom, Switzerland and Australia.  8-)

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-us-join-forces-to-speed-up-advanced-nuclear-technologies#:~:text=The%20new%20agreement%20will%20come,%2C%20Euratom%2C%20Switzerland%20and%20Australia.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:59am

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:29pm
Home, drawn and quartered: longest run of negatives

The Albanese government is ­presiding over the longest household recession with GDP per ­capita going backwards for the past six quarters, in a trend that exceeds any period in the past 50 years.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/labor-presiding-over-longest-run-of-negative-gdp-per-capita-since-1970s/news-story/cb39be0c27ad5f3280446a801b1aefea

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:31pm
Meanwhile,

Emergency energy powers activated to keep NSW lights on
The Australian Energy Market Operator will use emergency powers to reduce demand for electricity in NSW to combat blackouts fears as outages at power stations continue.

It will be another nail in Albo and Bowan's political coffin if widespread black/brownouts occur this Summer.  ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Dec 1st, 2024 at 1:33am
My updated prediction is the green vote is contracting and without it labor has zero chance.

I don’t think it will even be close.

Dutton crew will be the next pigs too the trough.

Albo really believe people voted for him when really people voted against Scomo.

Goodbye Albo, keep dying your hair blonde.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:51am
Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM

Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.

When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:03am

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:04am
These yawn posts are really working for you in the Tavern mod vote I see.  ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:46am

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM

Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.

When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!


And it was Labor and Albo accused of dividing the nation...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:47am

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:04am:
These yawn posts are really working for you in the Tavern mod vote I see.  ;D


I get it though, it's the same tired shtick from you lot.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.

Australians are fed up with the likes of her & Lydia Thorpe.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.


Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:25pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Nobody wants idiot Dutton in power other than the Murdoch press.

Liberals have been led by a string of idiots and the Liberal political body rejected intellectuals like Turnbull.

There will never be an intellectual Liberal Prime Minister, only idiots like Abbott and Dutton.


Turnbull an intellectual?  ;D ;D

A bed wetting traumatised kid raised by a single father(Albanese a single mother) lived in very modest digs until his fathers business picked up.

A defender of Kerry Packer and a partner in Jewish American Bank Goldman Sachs who'd have guessed you'd be a fan? ;D


Quote:
In 1987, Turnbull established an investment banking firm, Whitlam Turnbull & Co Ltd, in partnership with Neville Wran, the former Labor Premier of New South Wales, and Nicholas Whitlam, the former Chief Executive of the State Bank of New South Wales and the son of former Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam. Whitlam parted company with the firm in 1990; it operated as Turnbull & Partners Ltd until 1997.

Turnbull left the firm he co-founded in 1997 to become a managing director of Goldman Sachs Australia, eventually becoming a partner in Goldman Sachs and Co.

Additionally, he worked as a director of Star Technology Systems from 1993 to 1995.

During this time Turnbull was also the chairman of Axiom Forest Resources, which conducted logging in the Solomon Islands under the trading name Silvania Forest Products.

The latter's work was described by the Australian International Development Assistance Bureau as a "clear-felling operation",[62]

and the then Solomon Islands Prime Minister Solomon Mamaloni reportedly threatened to close it down for "constant breaches of logging practices", according to a critical article in the Solomon Times.[63][64]

Turnbull purchased a stake in the internet service provider OzEmail in 1994 for $500,000. He sold this stake several months before the dot com bubble burst in 1999 for $57 million to then-telecommunications giant MCI Worldcom.[65]

In May 2002, Turnbull appeared before the HIH Insurance royal commission to be questioned on Goldman Sachs's involvement in the possible privatisation of one of the acquisitions of the collapsed insurance company.

The Royal Commissioner's report made no adverse findings against him or Goldman Sachs,[66] however, Turnbull was one of nine defendants who settled later litigation over the collapse in undisclosed payments, thought to be worth as much as $500m.


Not forgetting what he has squirrelled away in offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying tax.

And him whilst Prime Minister giving his mates in the setup company The Great Barrier Reef Foundation $500 million of tax payers money with out any scrutiny and due diligence.

The bloke is as big a crook as Albanese is an inept F*#@ wit.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.


Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda like Thorpe.

Payman Muslims - Thorpe Aboriginal.

And like Thorpe the only reason she sits in the Senate is because of the safe senate seat handed to her by one of the majors the ALP.

Thorpe riding in on a Greens ticket.

Neither now represent the parties who put them there & IMO should have to resign - not be allowed to sit as independents.

They do not represent the vast majority of their constituents.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:32pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:46am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM

Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.

When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!


And it was Labor and Albo accused of dividing the nation...



They were.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:35pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.


Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Dec 11th, 2024 at 2:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.


Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?


Always looking to be spoon fed?

Her whole demeanor/ language in the Parliament when Hanson tabled documents questioning her eligibility to be there Under Section 44 of the Constitution. Not game to say it outside. For a woman whose parents fled the Taliban why would she support Muslim terrorist organisations like Hamas & Hezbollah?

There are Muslim Arab Israelis being held hostage by Hamas since Oct 7th.

Along with Thorpe - a  pair of Senate pariahs.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 11th, 2024 at 3:21pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 11th, 2024 at 3:24pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" mess.  ;D

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’
ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.


The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.


Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?


Always looking to be spoon fed?


Always looking for facts and valid reasons.

It seems to me that you hate her merely because she's a Muslim (and female).


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm
Spud will never be PM  :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:37pm
I’m no longer so sure.

The green vote is collapsing but I can’t see it showing up on labor radar?

Without those preferences things may become very dicey.

I still firmly believe Duddo may struggle to retain his own seat.

The question I ask is who will the Teals preference?

Fwiw Jacki Lambie network is on its last legs and running on empty.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:03pm
Teals will increase their numbers as people are sick of the majors especially liberals,  Labor will be returned to minority gov which is great after what they did with cfmeu

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:12pm

LNP never again wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
Teals will increase their numbers as people are sick of the majors especially liberals,  Labor will be returned to minority gov which is great after what they did with cfmeu


That was my original vote and thought but the polls I see show the greens are going too suffer big time next election.

With those preferences that would always flow to labor missing I think it’s going too become much more dynamic.

As you say people are abandoning the major parties ( I’m one) but how and where these new votes flow thu as preferences no one can be sure of

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:16pm
The whole world thought Johnson, Trump and ScoMo were a bad thing. Apparently Covid was the clincher and the Media went to work pushing Biden and Albanese here.

Now the world realises, they were really duped.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:20pm

LNP never again wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Spud will never be PM  :)



Lisping Albo is gone.

Who could replace him for Labor?  -  Jim Chalmers?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 12th, 2024 at 9:55am
Meanwhile, the swing away from Labor is increasing ...




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 12th, 2024 at 11:15am

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 12th, 2024 at 12:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:20pm:

LNP never again wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Spud will never be PM  :)



Lisping Albo is gone.

Who could replace him for Labor?  -  Jim Chalmers?


The guy who I said should have got the job in the first place - Jason Clare.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Dec 12th, 2024 at 10:51pm
I suspect Spud will be our next PM god help us.

People never seem to learn.

The one common thing about conservative policy and the thing that virtually all conservatives have in common is being mean and nasty.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Dec 12th, 2024 at 10:53pm

LNP never again wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Spud will never be PM  :)


I hope you are right but suspect not.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 16th, 2024 at 12:10pm
Always enjoy Alan's work:

[media width=400]https://youtu.be/LNm_BtdgnNs[/media]

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 16th, 2024 at 9:08pm
Latest Roy Morgan poll:

A Coalition Government, with a slim majority, would now win a Federal Election with the two-party preferred vote unchanged from last week: L-NP 52% cf. ALP 48%, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds.

Primary support for the Coalition increased 3% to 41% this week – the highest it has been since the last Federal Election. The increase in primary support for the Coalition came largely at the expense of One Nation, but also due to drops in support for the ALP, Greens and Other Parties which all lost support.

ALP support was down 0.5% to 27.5%, Greens support was down 0.5% to 12.5%, support for One Nation dropped 1.5% to 5% and support for Other Parties was down 0.5% to 3.5%. Support for Independents remained steady at 10.5%.

A representative cross-section of 1,672 Australian electors from December 9-15, 2024.


https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9771-federal-voting-intention-december-15-2024

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 16th, 2024 at 9:46pm
The Financial Review reports the final monthly Freshwater Strategy poll for the year has voting intention results identical to last time, with the Coalition leading 51-49 from primary votes of Labor 30%, Coalition 40%, Greens 14% and others 16%. Anthony Albanese is at 34% approval and 51% disapproval, up one on both counts, while Peter Dutton is steady on 37% and down one to 40%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister widens from 44-43 to 46-43, but a suite of questions on the leaders’ attributes produces better results for Dutton, including a 44% to 31% lead for being a strong leader. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1051.

The poll finds 48% expect the Coalition to win the election, 18% in majority and 29% in minority, compared with 39% for Labor, 25% in minority and 14% in majority.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm
The strange thing about Australia is that if one party wins the Federal, the other wins the majority of State elections.
Go figure.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:55pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:
The strange thing about Australia is that if one party wins the Federal, the other wins the majority of State elections.
Go figure.


Well that’s always been a Australian thing.
I always vote out who represents me in the house and vote exactly the opposite in the senate.

You really want these absolute scum of society having complete and unfitted control of Australia!?!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 17th, 2024 at 2:06am
Ever since the Voice to Parliament bullcrap, Queensland went into conservative mode more than usual. Sick of the crap about the spoiled demographic wanting more and more. The LNP will have a large voter support in the Federal election 2025. Chances are, we are going to hear the whingeing of Labor supporters in the Sydney region claiming that we are a bunch of racists for not bowing to the demands of the apathetic minority.

Did I tell you about the story about indigenous people who went to work in major cities... Oh, wait a minute...

*looks around the forum for Gnads and his inevitable surmise about my story being made up*

Anyway, they went to live in cities to try and get better-paying jobs and live in safer communities. They kept getting rejected by employers in the white collar industries simply because they did not have the experience to work those jobs. They had to settle for "okay" jobs that paid the rent and kept them fed. That, despite having the qualifications and the volunteer work in regional towns to get a foot in the door.

City people know so little about the experiences of indigenous Australians. Most indigenous Australians that complete post-secondary qualifications are not given a chance to make a living in cities. That is why they stick to regional and rural areas to obtain employment.

That is the reason why city folk are usually pro-Labor, whilst regional and rural areas are pro-LNP.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 18th, 2024 at 6:52pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2024 at 7:17pm

Polls are completely useless, especially this far out from the election.

Having said that, I think the ex-Queensland copper accused of kidnapping Aboriginal children, driving them out into the bush, stealing their shoes and then making them walk back home will be our next totally useless Prime Minister.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:22pm
Just accept this poll - all Labor states to Fall...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:22pm:
Just accept this poll - all Labor states to Fall...


I don't think we need polls to tell us that Albanese is a dud.

The ALP will lose the next federal election - this seems quite obvious.

I didn't want Albanese as the Labor leader, and I haven't liked much about his performance as Prime Minister.

Let's hope Dutton does a half decent job   :-/


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 25th, 2024 at 10:03pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:34am
Albo Labor is in strife.  :o


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by whiteknight on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:11am
I wonder who wins the next election be it labor or the coalition, if we will be in for a hung parliament.   :-?   

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 9:26am
Swing against Albo Labor by state ...

Very interesting result in VIC. (4.6%)  :o

Labor should be very worried.  ;)







Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 9:35am
Victoria might hold out - they're a pretty bad lot of political 'leaders' on all sides down there... figures..... talk about some dumb decisions and dumber public utterances...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 9:37am

whiteknight wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 10:11am:
I wonder who wins the next election be it labor or the coalition, if we will be in for a hung parliament.   :-?   



NEXT LOT!!


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 19th, 2025 at 9:05pm
He has a way with words!    ;D


Opinion
Albanese’s inaction drives his own party towards extinction

Richard Flanagan
Writer
January 18, 2025 — 5.00am

Extinctions sometimes strangely entwine – like the ancient Maugean skate ray, of which it is estimated fewer than 120 remain and which will likely be driven to extinction in the next few years because of the Tasmanian salmon industry, and the federal ALP, of which 78 lower house members remain.
Maugean skates need oxygen to survive and breed. Untreated sewage flowing from salmon feedlots into Tasmania’s remote Macquarie Harbour equals that of a city of a million people. All that poo eats so much oxygen that large areas become marine death zones. The ALP is similarly suffocating in a deluge of corporate poo that eats the values and purpose it needs to survive.


Illustration by Simon Letch

And yet, under Anthony Albanese, Labor gives the ever stronger impression that it has never seen a corporation that it won’t prostrate itself to. Each knee-step taken in his bizarre pilgrimage of national humiliation, from his log cabin origins to his house on the hill, is loudly tolled by the sound of the corporate cash registers jubilantly ringing with growing profits. Qantas and the promised legislation to make it pay customers compensation for late or cancelled flights? No action – ka-ching! The gambling industry and the ads more than 70 per cent of Australians want gone? No action – ka-ching! More coal mine approvals, new gas fields approvals, $1 billion for a Gina Rinehart-backed mine? No problem! Ka-ching! Even a spineless environmental measure like Tanya Plibersek’s “nature positive” bill is axed by Albanese at the behest of the West Australian mining industry. Ka-ching! Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

The word extinction was first paired with species in the 1880s as a result of a Cambridge don’s search for the last great auk, a penguin-like bird hunted to extinction by humans. “A healthy population existed until close to the time of the species’ extinction,” Tim Flannery wrote in a recent piece in New York Review of Books. “When it came, however, the decline of the great auk was swift and relentless.” While “the great auk was difficult to hunt at sea”, Flannery continued, “when it came ashore to breed it was uniquely vulnerable.”

And so too Albo. His much-remarked gifts of backroom dealing and party wrangling that worked in the darkness of factional intrigue serve him less well on the naked, exposed rock of government. In 2022, Labor secured just 32.58 per cent of the national primary vote, its lowest vote since 1934. Labor’s electoral fortunes give every appearance of spiralling only further downwards at the next election, with the party falling, according to the latest poll, to 31 per cent.
Great auks were not difficult to tame. There was one in the court of Louis XIV at Versailles, perhaps a little lost, like Albo at the Murdochs’ recent Christmas bash. A Danish savant kept another on a leash, not unlike the salmon barons who seem to have Albo on speed dial, with the prime minister seemingly ever ready to fly to Tasmania solely to endorse salmon companies with a record of environmental destruction, one so bad their actions led to the banning of salmon farming in Washington state (Cooke Aquaculture, owners of Tassal). According to Hilary Franz, the state commissioner of public lands there, “Cooke’s disregard ... recklessly put our state’s aquatic ecosystem at risk.”

Then there are the owners of Huon Aquaculture, JBS, a global byword for criminality. In 2017, its owner brothers Joesley and Wesley Batista admitted to bribing over 1800 politicians and public officials in Brazil. Corruption was, according to an interview Joesley gave in 2017 before going to jail with Wesley, “the rule of the game. And what’s most important, corruption was on the upper floors, with the authorities.” Today Wesley’s son Henry Batista, described in The Australian Financial Review as “the Kendall Roy of salmon”, works in Hobart as CEO of Huon Aquaculture. (Henry was not implicated in the senior Batistas’ corruption.)
According to the Australia Institute, the three 100 per cent foreign-owned Tasmanian salmon companies have paid no corporate tax for the past five years. For Albo – who has extraordinarily floated plans to exempt Macquarie Harbour from all federal environmental law under a national-interest provision typically reserved for emergencies – that’s seemingly more reason to ensure the rule of law doesn’t apply to the salmon mafia.

And once one industry can exist outside the law, why not others? Why not Woodside, which plans to keep its gas fields pumping until 2070 and open new ones, making a mockery of net zero by 2050? Why not Hancock Prospecting? And while at it, criminalise those who protest such things as the fossil fuel industry’s responsibility for the climate crisis.
If you talk to extinction experts, they will point out that a sighting of a large flock of birds can mean little as to their future prospects. A flock of, say, 78 birds may give a misleading view of the birds’ prospects as a species, when perhaps only 16 of the birds are capable of reproducing. With Labor’s primary vote steadily collapsing, Albo may be remembered not as a nickname, but as a byword for a mass extinction event.

...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 19th, 2025 at 9:06pm
The ordinary person who has lived through the extraordinary, frequently heavy-handed state interventions of recent years with COVID, knows exactly just how powerful the state is. So too does Peter Dutton, a former Queensland walloper who in other circumstances might be thought to have the electoral appeal of a venomous axolotl. What the new right gets right though is that people are angry, that life gets harder, and people want change. People want the state to act – for the people.

What the right offers them is its newly found intent to use the state to achieve change. From Weimar Germany on, the cry of state action, no matter how mindless and destructive, has always appealed to societies where the established polity has grown incapable of acting. Dutton’s call for nuclear reactors built by the state may be a shroud to help the fossil fuel industry continue to profit. But at a deeper level it appeals as Donald Trump’s equally spurious calls for a wall appealed – it speaks of politicians willing to use the state to address problems. If hypocritical posturing, it nevertheless suggests a will to action.
Yet for Labor, still mired in its 1990s romance with the Hawke-Keating legacy, it too often is the market and only the market that has power. The best the state can do is kneel before it. And if Qantas or Tabcorp or News or Woodside or Tassal don’t wish to alter their ways, Labor simply agrees, rewarding and further enabling them.

The problem is that what is at stake is much greater than the Labor Party, but democracy itself. A society that no longer can use the state to address its problems – from the environment to housing to rapidly escalating inequality to the increasingly unfettered power of corporations – looks more and more like the US, where Luigi Mangione became a folk hero for allegedly murdering a health insurance company CEO. Historically, assassinations only become celebrated as political protest when political systems have grown sclerotic and violent change is often imminent – from Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 to the Romanovs in 1917 to the Rwandan dictator Habyarimana in 1994.

Delay, deny, defend: a version of the words found on Mangione’s shell casings refers to the immoral practices used by American insurance corporations in refusing to honour legitimate health claims. But they also can sound uncomfortably close to the strategy and rhetoric of the Albanese government in regard to so much of its failure to act on the many problems besetting our country.
For democracy does not die in darkness. It grows terminally ill in the Chairman’s Lounge. What Labor gets wrong is thinking that people respect it for grovelling to greed. For being photographed with Alan Joyce or in proximity of a Murdoch. For backing the Batistas. They don’t. They are enraged. Labor’s diminishing flock of lesser auks will be hunted down by the corporate raiders feasting on all the plumage and flesh that the state can offer in perks, breaks, subsidies, exemptions – what are, incidentally, our taxes, our heritage, our way of life – until all that is left is a bare, ever hotter rock and beneath it a dark seething sea covered in salmon feedlots, poo-flecked foam devoid of life.


Richard Flanagan is the first writer to win both the Baillie Gifford Prize (for non-fiction) and Booker Prize (for fiction). His most recent book is Question 7.

https://archive.is/isu8j#selection-3675.0-3795.11

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 21st, 2025 at 9:18am
Latest Freshwater Poll.

Oh yeah!!!



  8-)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:09am
The "big three" are looking good for Dutton. Can WA and SA save Albo?

Even in those two states, the Labor lead is reducing.  ;D







Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 5:39pm
“Voters swing to Dutton as Australians expect to be worse off in 2025
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton now holds a lead as preferred prime minister over incumbent Anthony Albanese.
Peter Dutton leads Anthony Albanese as preferred prime minister, ahead by 39 to 34 per cent after being tied on the key question at the end of last year.“

“SMH

I don’t believe labor has the time to dump Albo which is there only chance.

This due to the internal rules Rudd made up to protect himself and his faceless men.

If the green vote collapsed as predicted it will be a Lnp majority government!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 6:07pm
Darwin Has Fallen

Brisbane Has Fallen

Transylvania Has Fallen

Washington Has Fallen

NEXT!!!  The betrayal of 61 to suit 39 will not go unnoticed.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 12:47am
The figures are getting even more ugly for Labor in Victoria.

It seems that Albo's early "unofficial campaign" has backfired.
The more people see his ugly face and hear his whining voice, the worse it gets for him and Labor.




Nationally, the swing has grown to 2.6% Dutton is now equal with or ahead of Albo as Preferred PM.  :o

Vic has blown out to 5.3%  ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:29am
Inaction.
Democrats, ALP, France

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 24th, 2025 at 9:54am
BTW, there is one poll out today showing the Primary vote for State Labor here in Victoria is now at 22 odd percent.  :o

I don't think that poll is accurate but I do think Labor is going to be smashed at the next State election. So much economic waste and mismanagement is enough to turn even die-hard Labor voters against them.

The poll finds Labor plunging six points from an already weak position to 22%, with the Coalition up four to 42% and the Greens steady on 13% (the same sample of respondents in the federal poll published earlier this week had Labor at 25%, the Coalition at 38% and the Greens at 13%). Brad Battin debuts with a 37-27 lead over Jacinta Allan as preferred premier, compared with a 30-29 lead for John Pesutto in the November result. Twenty-eight per cent rated themselves more likely to vote Liberal after the leadership change compared with 11%, while 11% rated themselves more likely and 18% less likely to vote Labor on account of the rather less newsworthy fact of former Treasurer Tim Pallas’s retirement.

Albo will cop some of the collateral damage this year at the Federal poll too.  ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 27th, 2025 at 12:05am
As reported in The Australian, Newspoll has become the last poll series to return for the year, showing the Coalition opening up a 51-49 two-party lead after a 50-50 result in the last poll in early December. Labor is down two points on the primary vote to 31%, its equal worst result for the term, with the Coalition steady on 39%, the Greens up one to 12% and One Nation steady on 7%. Anthony Albanese’s personal ratings are his worst result to date at both ends, with approval down three to 37% and disapproval up three to 57%, while Peter Dutton is up one to 40% and steady on 51%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows from 45-38 to 44-41, also Albanese’s weakest showing this term. The poll also finds 24% expect a Coalition majority government, 29% a Coalition minority, 33% a Labor minority and 15% a Labor majority. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1259.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 29th, 2025 at 10:12am
Latest MORGAN Poll:

ALP 29.5 L-NP 40.5 Green 11.5 ON 6 IND 9* other 3.5

* on readout everywhere, likely would get less at election "held now"

2PP 52-48 (=) by respondent prefs
51 to L-NP (-1) by last-election

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 30th, 2025 at 11:21am
Another one bites the dust. (Rats deserting the sinking ship?)

Stephen Jones to leave parliament
David Crowe
January 30, 2025 — 9.33am

Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones will leave politics at this year’s federal election in a fourth departure from the Albanese government, surprising colleagues with the news before parliament resumes next week.

Jones, a senior member of the Labor Left and a longstanding supporter of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, confirmed his resignation in a statement on Thursday morning but gave no reason for his departure.

The announcement comes as Jones seeks support in parliament for changes to superannuation and a new regime to crack down on financial scams while also heading into the federal budget scheduled for March 25.


Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones unveiled the government’s anti-scam laws in October.Credit:Dominic Lorrimer

“I want to express my immense gratitude to my community for the faith and trust they have placed in me to be their representative since 2010,” Jones said in the statement, published at 9.30am.

“I want to thank the prime minister for his friendship and support over many decades and for the trust he has placed in me to be the assistant treasurer and minister for financial services.

“To my family and friends, whose love and support has enabled me to represent our great community with the dedication it deserves, I thank you wholeheartedly.​”

Earlier, colleagues suggested Jones’ resignation appeared to be due to personal factors, including his marriage to a long-term friend last year, leading him to choose a life outside politics.

Jones worked as the national secretary of the Community and Public Sector Union from 1993 and became its national secretary for five years until 2010 when he entered parliament.

He holds the NSW seat of Whitlam, which covers parts of the Illawarra and Southern Highlands, which he won with 60.1 per cent of the vote in two-party terms at the last election.

Former Indigenous Australians minister Linda Burney and former skills minister Brendan O’Connor left the cabinet last July but have remained in parliament on the backbench until the election, allowing for a smooth transition to replace them in the ministry and Labor to find candidates for their seats.

Former government services minister Bill Shorten said last September he would leave government and took up a post as vice chancellor of the University of Canberra this month. He has left parliament, and his seat will be filled at the general election, avoiding the need for a byelection.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/stephen-jones-to-leave-parliament-20250130-p5l891.html

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 30th, 2025 at 12:12pm
A handy site for those interested in the various seats:




https://www.pollbludger.net/fed2025/

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by lee on Jan 30th, 2025 at 1:42pm
And in other news - Labor's Nature Positive Plan is back on the table. So much for Albo removing it. ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Jan 30th, 2025 at 5:46pm
Again - I predict Untergang for Labor and its allies for the Usual Reasons that we all know.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:14pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.



Albo will succumb to the Trump effect -

people want an alpha male not a lisping, woke, progressive socialist.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:19pm
With Peccary on his side. Al'baloney ain't gonna win ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:14pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.



Albo will succumb to the Trump effect -

people want an alpha male not a lisping, woke, progressive socialist.


I’m always open too another view point and listen too his last news press speak.

His a slightly dumber version of Donald Duck with the same speaking impediment and stupidity in his brain.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Jan 30th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.


Not exactly - it's a need to preference the better of two weavils...

A lot of Laborites are jumping ship.... it's a hard life ... many of the voice-lovers are doing so...  they see the writing on the ballot papers... a little balls from DuttonCoGov on transgender butchery and on reversing the voice by stealth moves and inserting real improvements for Abos based on their accepting personal resposibility will push him over the line by a country mile..



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:17am

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:36am
RedBridge Group has its first federal poll since November (not counting its MRP poll with Accent Research), which has the Coalition leading 51.5-48.5 on two-party preferred compared with a 50-50 result last time.

On the primary vote, Labor is down three to 31%, the Coalition up two to 40% and the Greens steady on 11%.

The poll also finds Coalition supporters are more firm in their voting intention (61% solid versus 34% soft) than Labor voters (51% solid and 39% soft).

Attendant media coverage is making much of regional breakdowns showing a 9% swing against Labor in the outer suburbs, compared with 5% in the inner and middle suburbs, essential no change in provincial cities, and a 3% swing in Labor’s favour in rural areas, although the error margins on these individuals breakdowns are around 6%. The poll was conducted last Monday to Friday from a sample of 1013.

The regular weekly Roy Morgan poll likewise records the Coalition with a 51.5-48.5 lead on both the respondent-allocated and previous election flow measures of two-party preferred (which were respectively 50-50 and 50.5-49.5 in Labor’s favour last time).

The primary votes are Labor 29% (down one), Coalition 40.5% (up two), Greens 11% (down half) and One Nation 4% (down one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1688.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gnads on Feb 11th, 2025 at 11:40am

Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.


That's LNP

are you dyslexic?  ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Frank on Feb 11th, 2025 at 12:46pm
https://youtube.com/shorts/OhWa-Z9uq_0?si=n4ExIrDl8Vfgu3FN

Greens are the extremists of Australian politics.

Multiculturalusm is nonsense.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 14th, 2025 at 8:37pm
Labor is on the rocks - Albo will lose
after seeing the Victorian State by-election results.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/werribee-byelection-labor-on-track-to-win-victorian-seat/ba85d41b-c534-488a-b321-1855fefd3b88

Labor will retain Werribee despite a 16.5 per cent swing against its primary vote
and a 10.2 per cent on a two-party preferred measure.



https://www.9news.com.au/national/prahran-byelection-greens-candidate-angelica-di-camillo-concedes-defeat-for-innermelbourne-seat/424395f6-b514-4d59-bed0-ff4c69d2fc38

Greens concede inner-Melbourne seat of Prahran in byelection
Greens candidate Angelica Di Camillo has conceded defeat
in Saturday's byelection for the inner-Melbourne seat of Prahran.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:44pm
Having watched Albo “shock horror “  today at being heckled on the south coast of NSW I can see in his face his been completely and utterly out of touch.

He honestly believes his the most popular person in Australia.

His so insulated that  if a nuclear war was to rain on us the best protection would be to have him on top of you.

I’m saying now majority Lnp victory and if Duddo can get his teams brains working.

A couple of decades of Federal Lnp government.

You were given a chance labor.
You were no better.
Begone

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:54pm

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:44pm:
Having watched Albo “shock horror “  today at being heckled on the south coast of NSW I can see in his face his been completely and utterly out of touch.

He honestly believes his the most popular person in Australia.

His so insulated that  if a nuclear war was to rain on us the best protection would be to have him on top of you.

I’m saying now majority Lnp victory and if Duddo can get his teams brains working.

A couple of decades of Federal Lnp government.

You were given a chance labor.
You were no better.
Begone



I have suffered through many questions times in the Federal parliament on TV.

Not once have I ever seen Albo give a straight answer to any question.

He's gotta go.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Feb 14th, 2025 at 10:08pm

Quote:
2025 Election predictions


I predict that it will be a Saturday.

I predict that I will vote at a local school or if not vote early.

I predict that I will not vote for a Liberal.

I predict that the independents will not research very well. (I intend to visit them this time).

I predict that the Green candidate in my area will be a nut. (hope to be wrong).

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Feb 14th, 2025 at 10:16pm
Very likely The Potato will win the election and Australia as usual will be a worse place as a result.

Don't know why people never seem to work it out.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Feb 14th, 2025 at 11:03pm
It might have been more beneficial for labor if they hadn’t won the last election?

They certainly pick up a huge load of left over manure from Scomo and sons.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Feb 14th, 2025 at 11:13pm

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
It might have been more beneficial for labor if they hadn’t won the last election?

They certainly pick up a huge load of left over manure from Scomo and sons.


Yes but that is true of every election.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 14th, 2025 at 11:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 10:08pm:

Quote:
2025 Election predictions


I predict that it will be a Saturday.

I predict that I will vote at a local school or if not vote early.

I predict that I will not vote for a Liberal.

I predict that the independents will not research very well. (I intend to visit them this time).

I predict that the Green candidate in my area will be a nut. (hope to be wrong).



Yep - you're a rusted on Labor voter -

no matter how bad Albo is you will still vote for him.   ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions - Dutton to copy Trump
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 5:31am
Election campaign.

Dutton is copying Trump - a new DOGE - dept. of Govt efficiency.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/02/12/australian-public-service-peter-dutton-efficiency/


Peter Dutton wants to DOGE-ify the public service.

Andrew Podger February 12, 2025

Dutton’s commitment

Dutton’s Insiders interview followed his lecture at the Menzies Research Centre. In the interview, Dutton referred to the possibility of $24 billion of savings over the four-year forward estimates — $6 billion a year — from reversing the growth in APS employees over the past three years.


more here:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jan/27/from-doge-to-smoge-peter-duttons-coalition-is-an-eerie-echo-of-trump-and-musks-america-ntwnfb

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 12:40pm
Saw an interesting clip on ABC news 24 this morning.

Both sides of politics are secretly and seriously considering death taxes.

They want to take a large portion of any inheritance you get
if say your parents die.
That means that if you are living in your family home you'll lose it.
You'll have to sell it and give the Govt perhaps half the money.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 1:48pm
45% death taxes in the UK:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80b50ee5274a2e8ab51b53/5013_Taxation_of_lump_sum_death_benefits.pdf



The Taxation of Pensions Act received Royal Assent on 19 December 2014. From April
2015 lump sum death benefits paid from a registered pension scheme or non-UK pension
scheme are taxed at 45% where the owner of the pension rights dies age 75 or over.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:01pm
LTYC loves Anal. Something about being snoop dog on the sniff

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:11pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:01pm:
LTYC loves Anal. Something about being snoop dog on the sniff



LTYC is a homo -

not that .....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
Saw an interesting clip on ABC news 24 this morning.

Both sides of politics are secretly and seriously considering death taxes.

They want to take a large portion of any inheritance you get
if say your parents die.
That means that if you are living in your family home you'll lose it.
You'll have to sell it and give the Govt perhaps half the money.




Many countries have death taxes.
Almost every country is in massive debt - they are broke
including us - $1.2 trillion of Federal debt -
so they will steal any pile of money they can get their hands on
to pay the interest.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 15th, 2025 at 4:44pm
I think AlboGroup is dead in the water... the failure began on Day One of the 'voice' madness... and hasn't picked up yet.. I doubt anyone is going to forget the Voice By Stealth pushed by the Labor states - which is a large part of why they are being thrashed .... the people will never be happy at seeing their votes ignored and ridden over ...

Hardly spoken about in the media, of course - they are hoping that dog is sleeping enough to not be noticed .... they are wrong, of course.... the people want their rights back ... and for the Abos - some REAL solutions instead of pandering to them every time.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 6:01pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 4:44pm:
I think AlboGroup is dead in the water... the failure began on Day One of the 'voice' madness... and hasn't picked up yet.. I doubt anyone is going to forget the Voice By Stealth pushed by the Labor states - which is a large part of why they are being thrashed .... the people will never be happy at seeing their votes ignored and ridden over ...

Hardly spoken about in the media, of course - they are hoping that dog is sleeping enough to not be noticed .... they are wrong, of course.... the people want their rights back ... and for the Abos - some REAL solutions instead of pandering to them every time.



Yes - Labor is on the nose all across Australia:

mass uncontrolled immigration causing a housing crisis,
pressure on hospitals, schools, roads and all infrastructure,
wasting money – $450 million wasted on "the voice."
signing up for 8 AUKUS nuke subs at 9 times the correct price for $360 billion,
out of control prices on everything.
Albo never answers any questions in parliament.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15th, 2025 at 10:01pm
The upcoming election.
We have been ripped off over submarines.
Is Labor to blame?
ScoMo signed it but did he know:


Look at the actual cost of the subs that the Yanks pay:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia-class_submarine


Quote:
Planned cost: about US$1.65 billion each (based on FY95 dollars, 30-boat class and two boat/year build-rate)
Actual cost: US$1.5 billion (in 1994 prices), US$2.6 billion (in 2012 prices)[108][109]
Annual operating cost: $50 million per unit (in 2012 prices)


Let's say that the cost is A$5 billion each.

We're paying $368 billion for 8 subs.
368/8 = $46 billion for each sub, 46b/5b = 9
which is about 9 times the price that we should be paying.

I know – yes -
we will get submarine manufacturing Australian locations in the deal but still -
why should we pay 9 times the price?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 16th, 2025 at 9:45pm
The regular Newspoll from The Australian finds the Coalition leading 51-49, unchanged on three weeks ago, from primary votes of Labor 31% (steady), Coalition 38% (down one), Greens 12% (steady) and One Nation 7% (undecided).

Anthony Albanese is steady at 37% approval and up one on disapproval to 58%, while Peter Dutton is respectively up one to 41% and steady on 51%.

Preferred prime minister result Albanese’s lead widens 44-41 to 45-40). The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1244.



YouGov has the first of what it promises will be regular multi-level regression and post-stratification polling, a formidable effort compiled from 40,689 interviews conducted between January 22 and February 12. This produces estimates for all 150 electorates based on their demography, which you can learn more about on the YouGov site. https://au.yougov.com/politics/articles/51612-mrp-coming-soon

Its median projection is 73 seats for the Coalition, 66 for Labor, 8 for independents and 1 each for the Greens, Katter’s Australian Party and the Centre Alliance.

For all the talk of Victoria, it suggests Labor’s biggest headache is New South Wales, where it trails in Bennelong, Eden-Monaro, Gilmore, Hunter, Macquarie, Paterson, Robertson, Shortland and Werriwa. A summary list names Labor’s other projected losses as Aston, Chisholm and McEwen in Victoria, Bullwinkel and Tangney in Western Australia, and Lyons in Tasmania, though there may be more to it than that because the full data set also finds the Liberals marginally favoured in Boothby in South Australia.

With the caveat that MRP has a better record with standard two-party contests than with minor parties and independents, Labor is favoured in all three of the Greens-held seats in Brisbane (even historically conservative Ryan) and to recover Fowler from Dai Le, while the teal incumbents are reckoned to be “safe”.

In terms of national voting intention, the Coalition leads 51.1-48.9 on two party preferred from primary votes of Labor 29.1%, Coalition 37.4%, Greens 12.7% and One Nation 9.1%.

An excellent results display allows you to bring up each electorate’s results individually and download a full data set.

https://au.yougov.com/elections/au/2025

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:51pm
It will be

Labor-Greens -Teals , with Greens and Teals reaming Labor
A disaster.

Liberals One Nation Libertarian.
One Nation and Libertarian to keep Dutton honest.


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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Feb 16th, 2025 at 11:26pm
Not Labor by a landslide - Labor IS the landslide.  If the people forget this treachery they are not worth saving....

One roll of the dice... if the Eld Gel and I don't sell and buy in a quiet spot for her - and me - closer to requirements..... and we still sell up and then go into rental with cash in the bank - I'm leaving Australia - like I should have done in the early 1970's.... one year to go I said to my then Professor gf who went to England - and I'm on that plane... just one more year to serve, baby, one more year than I deserve ...... shattered shoulder and then battling to get a living.... just slipped away, and nobody wants to know you.  Somewhere a wrong direction, I ran out of songs to play ....

Truly - I linked with a past gf (different) on DNA - we're related.... and she still hates my guts after fifty years for dropping her when I found out we were related ........  FFS... that was about it for me with this mad country.

So - maybe long overdue with the prof in England - or I've got a neurosurgeon in Switzerland.  Phark this mad house.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 11:30pm
The monthly Resolve Strategic poll for the Nine Newspapers offers cold water for the notion that an interest rate cut might have improved Labor’s fortunes, giving the government its worst result for the term: Labor is down two points on the primary vote to 25%, the Coalition is up one to 39%, the Greens are steady on 13%, and One Nation is up two to a new high of 9%

Having earlier shied away from two-party measures, the pollster is evidently now regularly publishing respondent-allocated figures, which in this case have the Coalition lead blowing out from 52-48 to 55-45. Applying 2022 election preference flows would have it at 53-47.

There are only slight movements on leadership ratings, with Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton both up a point on both approval and disapproval, Albanese to 37% approval and 58% disapproval and Dutton to 41% approval and 51% disapproval. Dutton leads 39-35 as preferred prime minister, out from 39-34. The poll was conducted Tuesday (the day of the rate cut) to Sunday from a sample of 1506.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:54am
This is abysmal for Labor.

They should have removed Albo last year.








Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:40pm



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 6th, 2025 at 11:00am
The fortnightly Essential Research records little change on voting intention, with an increased Coalition result among women cancelling out a drop among men. Labor is down a point to 29% with the Coalition steady on 35%, the Greens up one to 13% and One Nation down one to 8%.

The Coalition nudges ahead on the 2PP+ measure, now leading 48-47 after a 48-48 result last time.

Leadership ratings that normally come monthly are included for the second fortnight in a row, with Anthony Albanese down two on approval to 41% and up one on disapproval to 49%, while Peter Dutton is steady on 41% and down one to 44%.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 6th, 2025 at 11:10am
The weekly Roy Morgan poll did not replicate the surge to Labor it recorded last week, with the Coalition recording a 50.5-49.5 two-party lead on respondent-allocated preferences, compared with a 51-49 Labor lead last time.

The primary vote were Labor 28.5% (down three), Coalition 40% (up three-and-a-half), Greens 13.5% (steady) and One Nation 4% (down one).

The result on previous election preference flows was 50-50, after Labor led 53-47 last week. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1673.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 6th, 2025 at 11:28am



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Mar 6th, 2025 at 12:32pm
I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Frank on Mar 6th, 2025 at 1:37pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....


I can't see the Coalition gaining 23 seats.
They have 53. Need 75+1 to govern.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 6th, 2025 at 1:41pm
I don't see either major party getting 75+1 seats.

It will be a minority government.

The LNP will probably get the most seats but not 75+1.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Mar 6th, 2025 at 2:05pm

Frank wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 1:37pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....


I can't see the Coalition gaining 23 seats.
They have 53. Need 75+1 to govern.



I only predict the Untergang of Labor - not the Rise Of The Other Party Machine.

You all know by now I want none of the parties.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 11th, 2025 at 11:54am
Meanwhile, as Trump creates a recession and Albo pays out for failed airlines and steel mills, there will be a lot of grumpy investors out there in May.

What's that old saying?

"Sell in May and go away."  ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:12am
A Freshwater Strategy poll conducted for the News Corp papers points to a combined 5% swing against the teal independent members in Wentworth, Warringah, Mackellar, Goldstein, Kooyong and Curtin, which if uniform would return all but Warringah and Wentworth to the Liberal Party.


No further detail on voting intention was provided beyond the fact that the incumbents’ primary votes had “largely held up”, but the Liberals had gained potentially decisive support at the expense of Labor and the Greens.

Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton were tied 39-all on preferred prime minister, and 42% said they would support their MP backing a Labor minority government against 47% who said they wouldn’t. The poll was conducted last Wednesday to Friday from a sample of 830.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:47am
Libs will bleed more seats to the teals as they have nothing to offer  :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:53am

LNP never again wrote on Mar 13th, 2025 at 9:47am:
Libs will bleed more seats to the teals as they have nothing to offer  :)


Yet the poll above indicates a potential 4 seat gain to the Libs.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 17th, 2025 at 9:50am
The Financial Review reports the latest Freshwater Strategy poll has the Coalition’s lead in from 52-48 to 51-49. Labor’s primary vote is unchanged at 31%, but the Coalition is down two to 39% and the Greens are up one to 14%. Anthony Albanese’s net approval rating is up one to minus 10% while Dutton’s is down four to minus 12%. Albanese is up two on approval to 37% and up one on disapproval to 47%; Dutton is down one to 35% and up two to 46%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 45-43 to 46-42.

42% now expect Labor to win the next election, up five (though only 7% expect a majority Labor government), with the Coalition down five to 45% (18% for a majority).




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Mar 17th, 2025 at 10:16am
I predict failure of Labor (the Labor 'leadership' is its worst enemy);

a borderline LNP government (the LNP 'leadership' is its own worst enemy);

a reduction in Greens votes (the Greens are their own worst enemy);

rise in Independent voting;

and One Nation to fail again (the ON 'leadership' is its own worst enemy) ...

We, the Electorate of The People First And Foremost, must never forget the evils wrought by the major parties UPON this nation by exercising despotism of a self-appointed elite over the past forty and more years ... if you doubt me on this - just look around you.... Do Not Vote For Those Intent On Destroying Your Livelihood And Your Way Of Life and reducing you to citizenship of the growing Tent Cities ... to suit their own madness!!!  If an Independent shows the same colours - Do Not Vote For Him/Her either!


.. the above unpaid advertisement brought to you free by the growing Grappler Party, coming soon to an electorate near you - We ARE The People, and we pursue your rights without fear or favour! .....                                            vote no to major parties

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 18th, 2025 at 12:36pm
Cyclone Alfred? What about Cyclone Jim?
Jim Chalmers is blaming Cyclone Alfred’s $1.2bn cost to the economy as a ‘big new pressure’ on his budget next Tuesday, but what about the federal Treasurer’s big-spending policies?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/cyclone-alfred-cost-to-budget-dwarfed-by-labors-bigspending-agenda/news-story/67c7efbd2ab71e4f30687162888a9bcd

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 18th, 2025 at 10:29pm
The Guardian reports the fortnightly Essential Research poll has the major parties unchanged on the primary vote, with Labor on 29% and the Coalition on 35%, and the Greens down one to 12%, with the remainder including an undecided component of 6%.

The pollster’s 2PP+ measure has a 47-47 tie (the balance being undecided), after the Coalition led 48-47 last time.

The stability on voting intention is in contrast to much improved personal ratings for Anthony Albanese, who records his first net positive result in this series since October 2023, the month of the Indigenous Voice referendum. Albanese is up five on approval to 46% (The Guardian report says up four, but the previous published result was 41%) and down four on disapproval to 45%. Peter Dutton is steady on 41% approval and up two on disapproval to 46%.

The poll also finds 31% supporting and 39% opposing Peter Dutton’s proposal to reduce work-from-home arrangements for public servants (with women particularly opposed), which he has since dialled back.

Albanese’s suggestion that Australia might send peacekeeping troops to Ukraine was supported by 33% and opposed by 40%. The poll had a sample of 2256 – double the usual size – and was conducted from Wednesday to Sunday.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Mar 18th, 2025 at 10:57pm
It’s going too be so close.

Some nut job may end in control as a independent.

Remember Windsor and  clown oakshot , his speech?  oh please god not again!

Please, not that again, ANYTHING but that again!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:33am
Is Nemo cherry picking his polls again?
:D :D



Quote:
If a Federal Election were held now the ALP would be returned to Government with an increased majority with the ALP on 54.5% (up 3%) ahead of the L-NP Coalition on 45.5% (down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds
.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9841-federal-voting-intention-march-16-2025

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:37am

John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:33am:
Is Nemo cherry picking his polls again?
:D :D



Quote:
If a Federal Election were held now the ALP would be returned to Government with an increased majority with the ALP on 54.5% (up 3%) ahead of the L-NP Coalition on 45.5% (down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds
.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9841-federal-voting-intention-march-16-2025



God help us - not another 3 years of Albo?      :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:47am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:37am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:33am:
Is Nemo cherry picking his polls again?
:D :D



Quote:
If a Federal Election were held now the ALP would be returned to Government with an increased majority with the ALP on 54.5% (up 3%) ahead of the L-NP Coalition on 45.5% (down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds
.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9841-federal-voting-intention-march-16-2025



God help us - not another 3 years of Albo?      :o


I know right ... imagine a full term of government with zero scandals, zero rorts, zero misuse of taxpayer funds, zero corruption, zero sex scandals, zero knifings by colleagues AND two surpluses

who wants stable govt? What the fakr is happening to us :D :D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 19th, 2025 at 9:17am

John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2025 at 6:33am:
Is Nemo cherry picking his polls again?
:D :D



Quote:
If a Federal Election were held now the ALP would be returned to Government with an increased majority with the ALP on 54.5% (up 3%) ahead of the L-NP Coalition on 45.5% (down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds
.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9841-federal-voting-intention-march-16-2025


Wow! that Morgan poll is way outside the average of the other polls.

Either Morgan is the only one getting it right or the only one that is way off.

Time will tell.









Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 19th, 2025 at 9:47am
Adam who?  :D

Many Greens voters don't know who their leader Adam Bandt is, but that might not be a problem

By Annabel Crabb
Topic:Elections
5h ago


Twenty-five per cent of respondents — when asked their opinions of Adam Bandt — said they'd never heard of him. (ABC News: David Sciasci)

Last month, the research firm Redbridge asked voters in 20 key federal seats for their broad views on party leaders Anthony Albanese, Peter Dutton and Adam Bandt.

As you would expect in the nation's current cheesed-off state of mind, all three men enjoyed sub-zero popularity among respondents. Everyone hates everything right now, especially if it's anywhere near politics. The PM's net approval rating was minus 16, Dutton's minus 11, and the Greens leader was minus 23.

None of this is particularly surprising.

But here's something that might surprise you.

Twenty-five per cent of respondents — when asked their opinions of Adam Bandt — said they'd never heard of him.

And — stranger still — this rate of non-recognition was highest among respondents planning to vote Green.

Thirty-one per cent of Greens voters had never heard of the Melbourne MP who has led their preferred party for five years, compared with just 23 per cent of Labor voters and 22 per cent of Coalition voters for whom Bandt's name did not ring a bell.

In fact, Adam Bandt's name recognition was strongest among the people least likely to vote for him, and weakest among the voters most firmly in his party's sights.

He's best-known among the over-65s, among people who own their houses outright and among those who describe themselves as being under no financial stress.

But Bandt draws the biggest blank among renters (33 per cent), young people (39 per cent), and people describing themselves as under a "great deal" of financial stress.

That doesn't mean these voters aren't planning to vote Green. They are: The very same research confirms that approval of the Greens remains strongest among those who rent, are aged between 18 and 24, and/or live in households earning less than $1,000 a week.

Two modern realities

What can be made of these baffling results?

Basically, it's a clear (and possibly, for Bandt, bordering-on-brutal) demonstration of two modern realities.

The first is that the success of the Greens has very little to do with who the leader is, and everything to do with brand identification. Unlike the major parties, where leadership challenges can engender rapid reversals of direction, the Greens tend to chug along fairly consistently regardless of who's "in charge" of their party room, which in any event makes decisions "by consensus", which is Greenspeak for "meetings that are courteous and go for longer than the average carbon-based-life-form's tolerance for being in a meeting stocked only with wholegrain snacks".

In fact, after the 2010 election, when South Australian Greens senator Sarah Hanson Young mounted a challenge to the party's then-deputy Christine Milne, nobody found out about it for several weeks, and even then the story only emerged because Bob Brown casually mentioned the incident during a press conference about something else.

The Greens are a party whose purpose is written on the tin. It's branding genius, actually: If you care about the environment, vote Green. The colour of trees. Simple!

Greens voters aren't tuning in

The second take-out from the Redbridge research is that — among younger voters especially — disengagement from the details of politics is incredibly high.

The 2025 election — as the ABC's Patricia Karvelas wrote last year — will be the first at which Millennial and Generation Z voters outnumber Baby Boomers.

Redbridge principal Tony Barry says that among younger voters, media consumption patterns are highly fragmented, and disengagement from politics is common.

"This is underpinned by their assessment that political parties are no longer personally relevant to them because they are perceived not to be offering any solutions to salient issues," he says.

"The media diets of older voters continue to be over-indexed by legacy media."

Why are older, wealthier, home-owning, major-party-supporting people simultaneously more likely to have heard of Adam Bandt, and less likely to vote for him?

Because they're also more likely to watch the news on TV or read newspapers, or follow politics in some kind of linear way, which younger voters most certainly do not.

And Bandt — whose party plagues both Albanese and Dutton, but usually for different reasons — has the distinction of regular name-checks on both Sky News and The Guardian, two outlets whose only common feature is their membership of a legacy media contingent whose rusted-on consumers skew older.

...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/adam-bandt-greens-vote-federal-election/105067990

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Mar 20th, 2025 at 8:44pm
The Libbos are ahead in the betting.

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Coalition  1.72

Labor      2.10

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 20th, 2025 at 10:00pm
Labor has some unions vowing to "smash them" and now some of the Muslim leaders are out to remove two Labor ministers.   :o

Mosques, flyers, flags: Muslim Vote ramps up war against Labor
Muslim Vote volunteers have leafleted mosques, distributed tens of thousands of flyers and decked Lakemba in Palestine flags as its campaign to topple two Labor ministers ramps up.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/mosques-flyers-palestine-flags-inside-muslim-votes-war-to-win-sydneys-southwest/news-story/ca6d45da3763976d9aedc2337725ce1c

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 24th, 2025 at 12:39pm
We can expect a lull in polling this week ahead of the budget, followed by an avalanche next week in its wake – which, according to Simon Benson of The Australian, is “expected” to follow upon an announcement by the Prime Minister next weekend of an election for either May 3 or May 10. In the absence of new federal voting intention results, two pollsters have produced detailed breakdowns of their recent polling aggregated from the start of the year, one being the especially extensive quarterly Newspoll aggregation in The Australian, the other encompassing results for the four largest states from Freshwater Strategy in the Financial Review.

Newspoll has two-party results of 50-50 from New South Wales, unchanged from the previous quarterly aggregate, suggesting a Coalition swing of around 1.5% compared with the 2022 election result; 51-49 to Labor in Victoria, compared with 50-50 last quarter, a swing of around 4%; 57-43 to the Coalition in Queensland, a substantial move from the 53-47 result last quarter, a Coalition swing of around 3%; 54-46 to Labor in Western Australia, unchanged on last quarter for a swing of around 1%; and 50-50 in South Australia, after Labor led 53-47 last quarter, suggesting a Coalition swing of 4%.

This combines results of three polls from a national sample of 3757, ranging from 271 for South Australia to 1149 for New South Wales. Also featured is an array of demographic detail that you can access by sifting through the BludgerTrack poll data feature, together with reams of further polling detail since the 2022 election.

Only primary votes were provided from Freshwater Strategy, but the results imply a Coalition lead of around 52-48 in New South Wales, a Labor lead of around 51-49 in Victoria, a Coalition lead of 54-46 in Queensland and a Labor lead of 56-44 in Western Australia. This combines three monthly poll results from a national sample of 3152, ranging from 318 for Western Australia to 947 for New South Wales.

https://www.pollbludger.net/

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Mar 24th, 2025 at 2:50pm
Where's Peccary's formal Promise that Albanese will win.
The ABC are in full throttle propaganda that he will win and that people should vote Left ALP

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 24th, 2025 at 3:32pm
Labor had around 32% of first preference votes when AnAl was elected.

After shafting Australia for the last few years they will get even less next election.


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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 24th, 2025 at 3:34pm
AnAl and Labor have stuffed the economy


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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 24th, 2025 at 3:47pm
Meanwhile, Monique Ryan has just thrown away Kooyong.   ;D

Whether or not the sign was placed illegally, this has probably cost her the seat.

Kooyong MP Monique Ryan, husband apologise after removing political rival's sign

In short:
The husband of federal Victorian MP Monique Ryan has apologised after he was filmed removing a sign belonging to rival Kooyong candidate Amelia Hamer.

Mr Jordan said he believed the sign was illegally placed and that he should have reported his concerns to council.

Ms Ryan also apologised for the incident, saying: "It should not have happened."

The husband of federal Victorian MP Monique Ryan has apologised after being filmed removing a sign belonging to Liberal Kooyong candidate Amelia Hamer in Camberwell.

The video captured Peter Jordan removing the sign belonging to Ms Hamer, who is running against Dr Ryan, with Mr Jordan claiming it was illegally placed on public property.

In a statement Mr Jordan apologised "unreservedly" for removing the sign.

"It was a mistake," he said. "I believed the sign was illegally placed but I should have reported my concerns to council."

Dr Ryan also apologised for the incident, saying "it should not have happened".

"All concerns around signage should be reported to council," she said.


Federal MP Monique Ryan with Mr Jordan on federal election day in 2022. ((AAP: Diego Fedele))

Victorian Liberal senator James Paterson criticised the behaviour on Monday.

"The teal politicians are the first and the loudest to preach integrity … [and] the first and the loudest to preach honesty. But when they think no-one is looking, they behave very differently indeed," he said.

"The footage that's emerged today of Monique Ryan's husband Peter Jordan reflects very badly on her and her campaign and the way in which they have conducted themselves."

In a statement, the City of Boroondara said advertising materials or objects were not permitted to be posted or placed on public land or council-controlled land.

The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) said it was aware of the incident but that it did not regulate the placement of electoral signs

"The placement of signage is not regulated in electoral law, save for the requirement that campaign signs cannot be placed within 6 metres of the entrance to a polling place," an AEC spokesperson said.

"The AEC is aware that some local councils have regulations in place around the placement of campaign signs or corflutes

"Questions about signage on public land are generally a matter for local council.

"While the AEC does not regulate the placement of electoral signs, we are reminding all candidates and campaigners of the importance of civility while campaigning at this year's federal election."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-24/federal-mp-monique-ryan-and-husband-apologise-after-sign-removal/105088472

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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Mar 25th, 2025 at 8:30am
The good people of Australia vote for a PM and spud is unelectable

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 26th, 2025 at 9:56pm
Wow! This could be a big winner.

Coalition promises to halve fuel excise, shaving 25c off a litre of petrol
By political reporter Evelyn Manfield

In short:
The Coalition is promising to cut the fuel excise by 25c, after rejecting Labor’s income tax cuts.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton said the $6 billion 12-month policy would save families hundreds of dollars at the petrol pump.

What's next?
The opposition leader will deliver his reply to the federal budget on Thursday night.

Filling up your car will cost less under a Coalition government, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has promised, as both major parties compete on cost of living solutions, ahead of the election.

The opposition has promised to cut the fuel excise by 25c for a year — taking the rate from about 50c to 25c per litre.

Mr Dutton said his policy would take effect as soon as he wins office, unlike Labor's new tax cuts that are more than a year away.

"If elected, we will deliver this cost of living relief immediately — whereas people have to wait 15 months for Labor's 70-cents-a-day tax tweak," Mr Dutton said in a statement.

The opposition leader will outline the $6 billion policy in his Budget Reply speech to parliament on Thursday night, as the fight continues over which party will better help voters combat high living costs.

According to the Coalition's calculations, the change will save someone filling up a 55-litre car about $14 a week — or more than $700 across the year.

Mr Dutton said his policy would make "a real difference" after his colleagues slammed Labor's tax cuts as a "cruel hoax."

"Our plan will save many hundreds of dollars for families across Australia," he said.

"The commute to work, taking the kids to school or sport, the family drive, or the trip to the shops will all cost less under the Coalition."
The Coalition voted down Labor's income tax cuts in parliament on Wednesday, ahead of offering voters a different cost-saving measure.

It shows the parties alternate proposals on living costs, after the opposition neutralised Labor's health policies on Medicare and cheaper PBS medications.

Coalition says fuel excise cut won't impact road funding
The fuel excise is a federal government tax collected from producers or importers when the fuel leaves their depot.

While suppliers can set their own prices, the cost of fuel at the petrol station generally fluctuates in line with wholesale prices.

A competition watchdog review found a previous cut to the excuse resulted in sharp price falls across the country.

That was when the tax was slashed for six months under the former Liberal government to help combat a spike in fuel prices facing drivers, but the Labor government let the discount lapse after they were elected, arguing it was too costly.

Ahead of its expiration in 2022, Mr Dutton used Question Time to quiz the government about if it would extend the cut.

A year later, amid a prolonged period of above $2 petrol prices in late 2023, Independent MP Dai Le called on the government to bring back the discount.

At the time, Liberal MP Warren Entsch, who represents the regional Queensland seat of Leichhardt, told the ABC the revenue helped to fund the nation's road network.

While the revenue raised through the tax was historically tied to road funding, in recent decades it has operated more as a general revenue-raising tax, therefore the opposition said its policy would not reduce road funding.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-26/coalition-halve-fuel-excise-25-cent-petrol/105100580

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Deep State Feller on Mar 26th, 2025 at 10:02pm
What a huge miss - not having those mega storages on the western side of the divide to catch all that water....  I suppose Lake Eyre will be fifty feet deep.... that's the end of the serpent down there....   8-)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 28th, 2025 at 10:08am
As the starter gun is fired ...








Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 31st, 2025 at 9:45am
Labor's polling has improved over the last week.

The Australian has treated us earlier than usual to the post-budget Newspoll, which credits Labor with a two-party lead of 51-49, a reversal of the last three results and the first Labor lead since July. The primary votes are Labor 33% (up one), Coalition 37% (down two), Greens 12% (steady) and One Nation 6% (down one).

Anthony Albanese is up two points on approval to 43% and down one on disapproval to 52%. Peter Dutton net rating is minus 18, down from minus 14 down two on approval to 37% and up two on disapproval to 55%, and that Albanese now holds a lead of 11 points on preferred prime minister, out from nine points from 47-38 to 49-38.

Despite Labor’s improved position, responses to the budget are not positive: 16% expect it will leave them better off and 35% worse off; 22% rate it good for the economy and 32% bad; but 38% felt the Coalition would have done better compared with 47% who felt otherwise. The poll was conducted Thursday to Saturday from a sample of 1249.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Mar 31st, 2025 at 11:48am

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 26th, 2025 at 9:56pm:
Wow! This could be a big winner.

Coalition promises to halve fuel excise, shaving 25c off a litre of petrol
By political reporter Evelyn Manfield


When was the last time a Liberal kept a commitment to reduce costs ? OH thats right - NEVER.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 10:03am
A new DemosAU poll from New South Wales encompassing federal as well as state voting intention. The federal voting intention numbers have the Coalition leading 51-49, compared with 51.4-48.6 to Labor at the 2022 election, from primary votes of Labor 30% (33.4% in 2022), Coalition 38% (36.5%), Greens 12% (10.0%) and One Nation 9% (4.9%).

The poll also finds Anthony Albanese leading Peter Dutton 39-38 on preferred prime minister, and 31% holding that Australia is headed in the right direction compared with 52% for the contrary view. The poll was conducted last Thursday to Saturday from a sample of 1013.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Dnarever on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 11:49am
I predict Australia to have its first spud PM and that the country will be sorry for the mistake.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 3:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 11:49am:
I predict Australia to have its first spud PM and that the country will be sorry for the mistake.


Unless Trump manages to alienate even his most ardent supporters before our election, Dutton will continue to ride the same manipulative rhetoric that has kept Trump afloat, and, predictably, people will fall for it.

Never mind that it was Dutton’s party that played a central role in creating the housing affordability crisis. Never mind that, throughout their last term, they did nothing but exacerbate the problem. Forget that they have opposed every single Labor policy aimed at addressing it. Ignore the progress Labor has made.

Let’s also forget that the Coalition had no interest in fixing this issue when they were warned about it in the early 2000s. They have no interest in fixing it now.

And, above all, let’s ignore the fact that Peter Dutton is personally heavily invested in real estate, he has no desire to see prices drop.

No, instead, let’s just pin it all on Albo and place our trust in the very people who engineered this mess, who were warned at every stage but bulldozed ahead regardless, to somehow lead us out of it.

If this forum is any indication, that’s exactly what will happen. And, just like in the US, by the time people realise their mistake, it will be far too late.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 4th, 2025 at 7:58pm
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Sportsbet now has Labor in a clear lead:

Labor   1.53

Coalition   2.50

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 4th, 2025 at 8:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 4th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Sportsbet now has Labor in a clear lead:

Labor   1.53

Coalition   2.50


that's because dutton looks like a cartoon character from South Park and has zero personality as well as zero policies.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 4th, 2025 at 8:13pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 4th, 2025 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 4th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Sportsbet now has Labor in a clear lead:

Labor   1.53

Coalition   2.50


that's because dutton looks like a cartoon character from South Park and has zero personality as well as zero policies.



He did a good Budget reply speech - did you see it?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 5th, 2025 at 9:26am
Labor is winning:

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Sportsbet

Labor  1.44

Coalition  2.75

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 6th, 2025 at 10:44am
RedBridge Group poll, which found 25% wanted a Labor majority government and 31% a Coalition majority government.

Twenty per cent of Labor voters wanted them to govern in minority, 14% with the support of the Greens and 6% with the teals (evidently the question was an either-or on this count). Twenty-eight per cent of the small sample of respondents aged 18 to 34 felt the best result would be a “Greens-Labor coalition” (which the report is possibly conflating with a Greens-supported minority government).

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 6th, 2025 at 10:49am
A new poll RedBridge Group and Accent Research, which appears from the reporting to be a national poll, though in other respects it looks like the third wave of the marginal seat tracking poll that last reported in early March. It credits Labor with a two-party lead of 52-48, out from 51-49 in the pollster’s last result from March 13 to 24.

The primary votes are Labor 33% (down one), Coalition 36% (down two) and Greens 12% (up one).

The poll also finds 40% now feel the government is “focused on the right priorities” compared with 43% for the contrary view, which compares with 30% and 52% when the same question was asked in November.

Thirty-eight per cent rate Peter Dutton and the Coalition as “ready for government” compared with 43% for unready, which compares with 40% and 39% in November.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 7th, 2025 at 11:46am




Newspoll, which we can presumably expect to report on a weekly basis through the campaign period (and to do so earlier in the day than we’re accustomed to). It’s another encouraging result for Labor, who now lead 52-48 on two-party preferred, out from 51-49 last week (and from 51-49 in the Coalition’s favour in the previous poll from four weeks ago). Labor’s primary vote is steady at 33%, with the Coalition down one to 36%, the Greens steady on 12% and One Nation up one to 7%.

Peter Dutton nonetheless narrows his deficit on preferred prime minister from 49-38 to 48-40. Personal ratings are little changed: Anthony Albanese is down one on approval to 42% and up one on disapproval to 53%, Peter Dutton is up one on approval to 38% and steady on disapproval at 55%.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 7th, 2025 at 12:24pm
It’s a race too the bottom but we already know who the looser will be-

Australians.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 7th, 2025 at 12:24pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
It’s a race too the bottom but we already know who the looser will be-

Australians.



Very true.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2025 at 12:29pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 11:46am:
... One Nation up one to 7%


How could any decent person even contemplate voting for One Nation?

One Nation has appointed a convicted rapist, Sean Black, as its campaign director ahead of the federal election.

A judge said Black showed no remorse for raping and assaulting his former wife when he was jailed in 2018.

Sexual violence prevention advocates say Black is "not a fit and proper person" for the role.


"Black raped the woman after she told him to stop physically abusing her in October 2007.

"He also pushed her down the stairs and kicked her. In another incident, he slammed a door on her fingers."

Pauline Hanson says violent, convicted rapist is "a good man".

3 mins to 3 mins 8 secs:

https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/no-way-pauline-hanson-shuts-down-rumours-of-a-preference-deal-with-clive-palmer/


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 12:29pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 11:46am:
... One Nation up one to 7%


How could any decent person even contemplate voting for One Nation?


It’s a free country and people can vote as they want.

She’s certainly not on my radar and I can only speculate she appeals to people because she’s anti immigration and her brand is built on that.

I can take her seriously ( would never vote for her) but she’s always unfortunately surrounded herself with the most horrible of men.
Right from the beginning, she is the “type “of woman who sadly is easy prey for the worse scumbags who can’t actually be called “men”.

Sean Black.
James ( Peter slippers bum boy)Aspley.
Labor’s own Mark Latham!

She’s even on record for reaching out to Australia biggest clown- Barnaby Joyce to join her party.

I actually have respect for her it’s just the scumbag men she has always surrounded herself with that reflected so poorly on her.

Again personally I don’t even acknowledge one Nation in the polls because, well, I just can’t go that dimwit backwards right but if someone can?
I support there right to vote how they want!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:34pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
... it’s just the scumbag men she has always surrounded herself with that reflected so poorly on her.


Agreed.

But this time she has doubled down and claimed that the violent, convicted rapist she hired is "a good man".

There's no excuse for that.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
... it’s just the scumbag men she has always surrounded herself with that reflected so poorly on her.


Agreed.

But this time she has doubled down and claimed that the violent, convicted rapist she hired is "a good man".

There's no excuse for that.


I said I respect her.

I never gave her any credit for intelligence 😉

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on Apr 8th, 2025 at 11:46am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 3:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2025 at 11:49am:
I predict Australia to have its first spud PM and that the country will be sorry for the mistake.


Unless Trump manages to alienate even his most ardent supporters before our election, Dutton will continue to ride the same manipulative rhetoric that has kept Trump afloat, and, predictably, people will fall for it.


Well, I didn’t quite expect Trump to actually light the fuse on the global economy, but here we are.

As the fallout begins to hit home, with the Aussie dollar already taking a nosedive, Dutton may find himself scrambling to change his messaging away from one that is so Trumpesque.

The problem is, he's got little else to sway hearts and minds at the moment, at least nothing based in reality.

Not that this matters that much...

It certainly throws a spanner in Clive’s ambitions, which were already looking like a fever dream stitched together with mining money and Facebook ads.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 9th, 2025 at 12:14pm



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 9th, 2025 at 12:21pm
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Sportsbet now has Labor in a clear lead:

Labor   1.34

Coalition   3.28


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 10th, 2025 at 10:04am
Speaking of predictions ... There is one poll by Compass (probably unreliable) that reckons Chris Bowen could lose the seat of McMahon.

That would require a swing of over 10%   :o

Mind you .. that would be fantastic!   ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on Apr 10th, 2025 at 10:16am

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 10th, 2025 at 10:04am:
Speaking of predictions ... There is one poll by Compass (probably unreliable) that reckons Chris Bowen could lose the seat of McMahon.

That would require a swing of over 10%   :o

Mind you .. that would be fantastic!   ;D


I'd always liked Chris Bowen, but I'd hoped for more this term.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Frank on Apr 10th, 2025 at 11:45am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 10th, 2025 at 10:16am:
I'd always liked Chris Bowen, but I'd hoped for more this term.



I rest my case.....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 12th, 2025 at 1:39pm
I'm calling it.

Labor will form a minority government but will receive the lowest Primary vote since 1934.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Apr 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm
Labor , increased majority and liberals bleeding more seats to independent  :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jasin on Apr 12th, 2025 at 9:38pm
I see NLP getting in much like the swing to Trump from Harris teabag.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 13th, 2025 at 1:35pm
Speaking of "drunken sailors" ... both sides throwing about 10 Billion to buy some votes.

Coalition unveils plans to let first home buyers deduct mortgage payments from taxes
Exclusive by chief digital political correspondent Jacob Greber

In short:
Coalition Leader Peter Dutton has announced a plan to allow first-time buyers of newly built homes to be able to deduct mortgage payments from their income taxes if he is elected on May 3.

The policy would mean a family on average incomes would be around $11,000 a year better off — or $55,000 over five years.

Peter Dutton has super-charged his fight against Labor over housing policy with a promise that first time buyers of newly built homes would be able to deduct mortgage payments from income taxes under a Coalition government.

In what would be a controversial but historic structural change to the nation's tax system, the policy would mean a family on average incomes would be about $11,000 a year better off — or $55,000 over five years.

As first revealed by the ABC, the "first home buyers mortgage deduction scheme" would be limited to five years and the first $650,000 of a mortgage.

It would also be means-tested at $175,000 for singles and $250,000 for couples.

Mr Dutton announced the policy at the Liberal campaign launch in western Sydney on Sunday, hours before Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in Perth will showcase Labor's plans to enable first home buyers to enter the market with a 5 per cent deposit, avoiding lenders mortgage insurance.

"Today I bring a message of hope to all Australians seeking to own a home of their own," Mr Dutton told the audience of party faithful.

"I will be a prime minister who restores the dream of home ownership."

Coalition housing spokesperson Michael Sukkar told the ABC that the Coalition's housing policy would demonstrate that Labor's offering on housing is a "lazy Clayton's policy".

He said the Coalition, by contrast, would offer "a massive structural change to our tax system to provide a huge tax concession to encourage first home buyers, to give them the firepower in the first place".

The Coalition is expected to insist that its policy would help boost supply of housing by being linked to new construction.

"In Australia you only get a new house built if someone is prepared to commit," he said.

"The way you unlock supply is encourage someone to pre-commit to a new dwelling."

While of huge up-front benefit to first home buyers, the Coalition's scheme is likely to receive heavy scrutiny from economists and tax experts.

In most countries where mortgage interest payments are tax deductible, governments tend to claim a substantial portion of the capital gain of people's homes when they sell.

Announcement to set up battle over housing

The Coalition's plan sets up a direct contest with Labor, which will also spruik its first home buyer centric housing policy at the campaign launch in Perth.

Labor has vowed to allow all first home buyers to purchase a property with a 5 per cent deposit, avoiding the need for lenders' mortgage insurance.

Some 50,000 Australians a year already access the income-capped version of the scheme, but the government expects that number will grow to nearly 80,000 after the expansion.

The scheme will not have income caps or a limit on the number of places available.

The government will also pledge $10 billion to go towards building 100,000 properties over eight years exclusively for first home buyers.

"The housing that is being built today is not affordable for most young people who are entering the market and that's the real problem," Housing Minister Clare O'Neil told Insiders.

"What we are doing is supplementing supply at the affordable end of the market and that's where it is really needed.

"Our government will roll up its sleeves and get involved, that is the only answer for the housing crisis confronting our country."

Ms O'Neil said it was too early for her to comment on the Coalition's policy in detail, labelling it "public policy on the run for a campaign on the slide".

"One thing I will say is we have to help young people into home ownership and I'm not sure how this policy is going to assist us to do that," she said.

"The difficulty they are facing is saving a deposit and that is why 5 per cent deposit for first home owners across the country is such a game-changer for young people."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-13/coalition-first-home-buyers-mortgage-taxes/105170766

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 13th, 2025 at 1:57pm
Nah, nah - while they're on the ropes - we need rental assistance equality for pensioners with a mortgage...s'only fair, innit?

We've done all the hard yards for sixty years and more - time for a bit back, ay?

Now watch all the WOP house hoarders get in on this one - being as how they'll simply buy their next one on a 'company' - and thus will be first home buyer again for that company.

We're not stupid, Albo Dutton!

I've told yez all what's wrong with this 'immigration' business ... but I'll try again...

Once upon a time in the mist-shrouded Land of Oz..... there was a troll name Guvvenmint who decided that the population, following the greatest man-made catastrophe in human history, needed to grow - so the people, groaning - as instructed - readily if not happily took in the hungered, the poor, the downtrodden and a few Nazi escapees of the world - at near zero rates ... Ten Pound WOPS, dig it ... and then expected them to get by and prosper through sheer hard work and application.....

As time went by and the Fat closed in on the thinking of Guvvenmint and his newly educated in the social sciences henchtrolls - the great decision was made that Immigrants - as opposed to immigrants = New Australians ..... MUST be self-supporting to even come here...

So the New Immigrants happily arrived on our shores - not with a Dick Wittington knapsack over their shoulders over which they looked back on the horros of Europe's Greatest War, and ready to build an Italian restaurant and work in the mines and the Snowy Schemes and buy farms and property and such to prosper and get ahead here - the New Immigrants arrived armed and ready with a bank hoard of gold, and ready to BE instantly self-sufficient - buying homes and such and preying - as the now Old New Australians were doing - deeply on the bowels of Affirmative Action and all the other Madness that Guvvenmint and cronies had devised to oppress the Real People...

Having arrived here with more cash in hand that the average family could generated in twenty years of savings after costs, let alone some poor boy on his own at sixteen and struggling to find work and having to build a life from scratch - LMFAO - and instantly buying a home - these Immigrants could then proceed to get into the 'investment housing market' - thus cutting Australians out of the chance of a Home...

Thus were Australians thrust into Hunger Games and forced to compete for some petty allotment annually while living in Tent Cities.... meanwhile the Immigrants, rich as Croesus and wearing fine suits and more and more getting into the professions via affirmative action etc - got onto councils and into government at all levels, and proceeded to BAN Tent Cities and evict and fine those forced into them...

How history repeats itself.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5462BvrUUw

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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 15th, 2025 at 4:36pm

Dutton is history.    :o

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Labor  1.18

Coalition   5.10


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 15th, 2025 at 4:45pm

Still 18 days to go but Dutton is finished – it's over.

OMG - another 3 years of lisping Albo and millions more immigrants.  :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2025 at 10:31am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 4:36pm:
Dutton is history.   


Will the Libs keep him on as leader, to face Albo again in another three years?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 16th, 2025 at 10:44am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 4:45pm:
Still 18 days to go but Dutton is finished – it's over.

OMG - another 3 years of lisping Albo and millions more immigrants.  :o


... not to mention more Aboriginal Supremacism and loss of rights in speech and actual freedom on Open Range Australia... they've started bashing up tourists in Alice Springs now... they're gonna take back their land if it kills them ...

What a tragedy for Australia - another term of this pack of losers, misfits and boozers... hanging by their fingernails... and what a piss poor showing from the 'opposition' - who are not offering anything - not standing for anything..... just throwing luke warm water into the luke warm milk already watered down by Labor.

I TOLD YOU, DUTTO!  STAND for some things - don't just keep on with the same old saying 'Labor this and Labor that' - like they're doing...Labor has nothing to offer this country but more privilege for the insider groups, more destitution and disempowerment for the Silenced Majority, and higher and higher bills and a total lack of real control over reality in the economy and social spheres.

And what have the others got to offer?

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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 22nd, 2025 at 10:45pm
I haven't watched any of the debates including the one tonight.

I imagine it was pretty much like this? :


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 22nd, 2025 at 11:09pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2025 at 10:45pm:
I haven't watched any of the debates including the one tonight.

I imagine it was pretty much like this? :



Pretty much - I expect a surge from DuttoGroup as this enters the final straight.  I've cast my vote early.

I'm thinking a close finish, with a rise in the Outlier parties etc.  I still say that any 'government' that can only pull a third of the primary vote has got to start asking itself why they are going so wrong.  Duzzen madda who wins - even with the minor parties a 'winner' who cannot pull somewhere within cannon shot of 50% is no government at all.

I wonder how Crumpet of Patriots will poll... I think Greens will fall... One Nation will go up ...

Jeez - there was an Aboriginal party and an Australia Voice party - don't know what the latter stood for.  At least an Aboriginal party means they now accept they can only have any MORE inside running by being elected.

https://australiasvoice.com.au/

Ah!  Australia's Voice - Fatima Payman - and a host of others of the Usual types, including a coupla non-Muslim femmes... typical delusional Anglo chicks.  They want a republic and a few other things, and a cessation of the 'genocide' in Gaza.  Simple then - tell idiot Hamas to stop fighting and build a nation instead.

https://www.indigenouspartyofaustralia.com/

You read them for yourself.... I won;t always be here to spoon feed you.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:45am
Labor is still way ahead even after the debate last night.


We shouldn't have compulsory voting.

If like me -
you're in an ultra, super safe Labor seat then
you still have to get into your car -
drive to a voting place,
risk a car accident on the way,
find a park,
stand in a line,
vote and then drive home.
Use your petrol which costs you money.

You've lost 1 to 2 hours of your time and money
when you already know the outcome -
Labor will win no matter what you do.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:54am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:45am:
We shouldn't have compulsory voting.



typical of the retarded right ... when they lose they want to rig the system so they might win

bugger of idiot .. without compulsory voying, no one would bother voting and only idiots on the extremes will vote. You'd end up with patriots of trump of whatever he buggeren idiot calls it in govt. How retarded can you be?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:55am
Well Bobby , there are “other ways “.
Sometimes a good friend who is aware of your address and birthdate might be prepared to present as your good self and vote in your place.

I’m personally a fan of the postal vote which not only allows you to vote from home but gives the added bonus of allowing you 14 days after the election to vote.

Many find amusement in seeing who has won and than choosing how to vote accordingly.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:55am

I don't think it's fair to call some a criminal because
they don't want to vote.

https://www.andrewbyrneslawgroup.com.au/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-voting-in-australia

If you are facing the possibility of jailtime from not paying fines
due to not voting, you need the help of a criminal lawyer.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:57am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:55am:
I don't think it's fair to call some a criminal because
they don't want to vote.



drama queen much? No one forces you to vote. All you have to do is get your name marked off. And not voting does not result in any criminal convictions ... now answer my question, how retarded can you be?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 9:06am

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:55am:
I don't think it's fair to call some a criminal because
they don't want to vote.



drama queen much? No one forces you to vote. All you have to do is get your name marked off. And not voting does not result in any criminal convictions ... now answer my question, how retarded can you be?



If you are facing the possibility of jailtime from not paying fines
due to not voting, you need the help of a criminal lawyer.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:58am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 9:06am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:55am:
I don't think it's fair to call some a criminal because
they don't want to vote.



drama queen much? No one forces you to vote. All you have to do is get your name marked off. And not voting does not result in any criminal convictions ... now answer my question, how retarded can you be?



If you are facing the possibility of jailtime from not paying fines
due to not voting, you need the help of a criminal lawyer.


I don't know what the rules are in shitville, but in NSW you cannot go to jail for unpaid fines

try again

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 11:53am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 8:45am:
Labor is still way ahead even after the debate last night.


We shouldn't have compulsory voting.

If like me -
you're in an ultra, super safe Labor seat then
you still have to get into your car -
drive to a voting place,
risk a car accident on the way,
find a park,
stand in a line,
vote and then drive home.
Use your petrol which costs you money.

You've lost 1 to 2 hours of your time and money
when you already know the outcome -
Labor will win no matter what you do.


Do what I do, Bobby.

Use public transport and vote early at an early voting centre.

There's an early voting centre in the Perth CBD, so I'm hopping on a bus today and going there to vote.

No driving, no looking for a parking spot, and no queues.

A $3 bus fare isn't gonna send me broke.

Simples.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 11:53am:
Do what I do, Bobby.

Use public transport and vote early at an early voting centre.

There's an early voting centre in the Perth CBD, so I'm hopping on a bus today and going there to vote.

No driving, no looking for a parking spot, and no queues.

A $3 bus fare isn't gonna send me broke.

Simples.



Thanks Greggy,
I'd prefer not to have to vote at all - just stay home.   :-[

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:00pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1727480849/226#226 date=1745373184]

Do what I do, Bobby.

Use public transport and vote early at an early voting centre.

There's an early voting centre in the Perth CBD, so I'm hopping on a bus today and going there to vote.

No driving, no looking for a parking spot, and no queues.

A $3 bus fare isn't gonna send me broke.

Simples.



Thanks Greggy,
I'd prefer not to have to vote at all - just stay home.   :-[/quote]

Fine.

Don't complain about what the government does though.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:00pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1727480849/226#226 date=1745373184]

Do what I do, Bobby.

Use public transport and vote early at an early voting centre.

There's an early voting centre in the Perth CBD, so I'm hopping on a bus today and going there to vote.

No driving, no looking for a parking spot, and no queues.

A $3 bus fare isn't gonna send me broke.

Simples.



Thanks Greggy,
I'd prefer not to have to vote at all - just stay home.   :-[/quote]

Fine.

Don't complain about what the government does though.




Only cause I'm in an ultra, super safe, Labor seat.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:36pm
Up here is a safe Nationals seat - we're working on it...

Sadly for the Nationals - they, like all the parties, are surrendering to the screeching for sheilas all the time - I don't mind the local State member personally, but I remain opposed to forcing women onto us as our great leaders - for the very real reasons that they are not impartial, imagine themselves superior to Christ, imagine that election equals power, and work to a false agenda, and even outside of that their real world experience is minute.

Affirmative Action once had its day
And those damned Abo rights, boys, must soon fade away
Though they murder Australia
By night and by day
They all must like children
Be taught how to play....



Footwarning:-  Labor STILL has a policy that 'winnable seats must be allocated AT LEAST 50% to women."  That means, children of the blind - that it is MORE than possible to have 100% women and NO men!  WAKE UP!
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Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:56pm

An anti Peter Dutton YouTube video:   ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euE8eZTyQQg

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 1:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:56pm:
An anti Peter Dutton YouTube video:   ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euE8eZTyQQg


Have they got on on Albo?  Fair's fair....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 1:07pm
So many issues - so little time.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNOxrJH548c

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 1:36pm

Another good one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBqVVBUdW84

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 1:48pm
https://www.facebook.com/reel/687733940431156

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 4:19pm

https://www.noticer.news/pauline-hanson-one-nation-preference-coalition/


Trumpet of Patriots party chairman Clive Palmer revealed on Friday that
his party would preference Labor and Coaltion last in order to “break up the two-party duopoly”.


“Liberal and Labor are the same, 99% of the time they have the same policies and Australians are fed up,” Mr Palmer said.

“I’ve seen the quality of the people that operate in the Opposition and in the Government who share picnics together on weekends and other social outings.

“They don’t really dislike each other, it’s a case of you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. That’s why we’ve had a Uni-Party for many years and that’s why we are going backwards.”

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 4:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 4:19pm:
https://www.noticer.news/pauline-hanson-one-nation-preference-coalition/


Trumpet of Patriots party chairman Clive Palmer revealed on Friday that
his party would preference Labor and Coaltion last in order to “break up the two-party duopoly”.


The voters choose where the preferences go, not the political parties.

Politely decline to take their how-to-vote cards and direct your preferences the way you want them allocated.



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 6:11pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euE8eZTyQQg

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 6:22pm
Kindness may not be weakness - but weakness surely is................

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 7:05pm
Even the swinging voters won't back spud as he is hideous,  ,

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 7:08pm

LNP never again wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 7:05pm:
Even the swinging voters won't back spud as he is hideous,  ,


He really is, as the video says, a front bottom.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Belgarion on Apr 24th, 2025 at 12:31pm
I voted this morning. Rather busier than normal for my country town, waited 7 minutes, then done. I mentioned to the AEC lady that the 'how to vote' pamphlet pushers seemed to be rather closer to the polling place than legally permitted and she replied that they were technically far enough away but the narrow path from the street to the church hall allowed them to set up a gauntlet, as it were, the voters had to pass through. Somewhat annoying. One local candidate happened to be there holding court with the party faithful. Seemed a nice enough bloke.   

Of note is the number of candidates in this electorate, 10 this time instead of the usual 6 or so. The minor parties looking at a seat they have not usually bothered with and a well funded teal appearing for the second time.

Think the Nationals will get it back from the Independent who was actually elected as a National but jumped ship.  We will see.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 2:20pm
God help us - Labor can't lose.



Sportsbet

Labor      1.15

Coalition  6.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 3:44pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 11:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 2:20pm:
God help us - Labor can't lose.



Sportsbet

Labor      1.15

Coalition  6.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604



Can Dutton get a miracle like ScoMo did?



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:13am
https://www.facebook.com/reel/703411195462082

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on Apr 27th, 2025 at 7:45am
Heh. Facebook.

You know i read an article the other day that the IQ of the average Tik Tok user is 90. I thought immediately of Gordy.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 8:30am

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 7:45am:
Heh. Facebook.

You know i read an article the other day that the IQ of the average Tik Tok user is 90. I thought immediately of Gordy.


Seems a tad high.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:41am
My Vote Compass chart:



I have moved from top left over the years.   :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/vote-compass/

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 1st, 2025 at 7:47am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 11:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 2:20pm:
God help us - Labor can't lose.



Sportsbet

Labor      1.15

Coalition  6.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604



Can Dutton get a miracle like ScoMo did ?



Majority or minority government, it appears Labor have victory 'in the bag'
The only better result would see Dutton losing his seat - ah la Howard
As the LibNais drop further and further in the polls, there must be a few numbers men considering who should be the frontrunners in the upcoming leadership stoush

Remembering, the LAST leadership ballot - after the Morrisson fail - Dutton was the only one to put his hand up



.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 1st, 2025 at 7:52am
Sportsbet, now reads.

Labor     1.00

Coalition     7.00

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 7:59am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 7:52am:
Sportsbet, now reads.

Labor     1.00

Coalition     7.00



No - it's -

1.11

7.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 1st, 2025 at 10:08am

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:41am:
My Vote Compass chart:



I have moved from top left over the years.   :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/vote-compass/


I went through the compass and thought I'd answer the questions based on a mix of what Frannie, Grappler, Leroy, Boris etc advocate for in their posts here.

Things like,

"Should transgender women be able to compete in women's leagues" - Strongly Disagree,

"Should the Government setup a Truth commission to investigate historical injustices with Indigenous people" - Strongly Disagree,

etc.

You'll never guess how it turned out /s



So if you're anti:

Action on climate change
No cost doctors visit
Immigration
Trans rights
Eelectricity and childcare subsidies
Higher taxes for the rich
Closing property tax loop holes
More affordable housing

You end up as an extreme right winger...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAPGijDFJiQ

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on May 1st, 2025 at 10:47am
Penny Wong's comment yesterday about The Voice was a shockingly bad mistake.

I think it will be the difference between a Labor majority and a Labor minority government.

I reckon Albo will be fuming.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 1st, 2025 at 11:07am

Captain Nemo wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 10:47am:
Penny Wong's comment yesterday about The Voice was a shockingly bad mistake.

I think it will be the difference between a Labor majority and a Labor minority government.

I reckon Albo will be fuming.


She's right...  But so are you.

Now is not the moment, Australians have made their position abundantly clear.

Were we a more principled electorate, and had the Liberals not been biding their time for a ready-made scare campaign, it would not be unreasonable to draw a parallel between the Voice and Marriage Equality.

We were told marriage equality would undermine the very institution of marriage, yet it has only strengthened it. It laid bare the falsehoods peddled in the lead-up to that vote, fear-mongering dressed up as moral concern.

The Voice, if it ever does pass, will do precisely the same. It will reveal the lies for what they are, and those repeating them, here and elsewhere, as either complicit or credulous.

But to be so smugly overconfident in the electoral outcome as to say “now is the time”? That’s hubris. It may well have been the difference between forming government outright and limping into minority, or worse.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on May 1st, 2025 at 11:57am
Interesting that Wong fell into the semantic trap of discussing 'gay marriage' as separate from Marriage (sort of like discussing Men and Women and men and women, you understand) - I guess she went about it the Wong Way....

We all (wink, wink) know 'gay marriage' is a furphy and not the real thing.... ay?

As for her voice gaffe.....I applaud her honesty on the eve of an election - now let the people wake up to what they are really getting with Labor .... just another shot at Stalinist despotism - we'll tell YOU what you'll accept, voter!!  And we're working hard to make elected position a hereditary thing for our mates and families... just like the aristocracy in the House of Lords!!  Ah - the joys of an egalitarian country under New Labor....



I wouldn't call a 50% casualty KIM rate, not included WIMs (Wounded In Marriage), 'strengthening marriage' by any stretch of fantasy .. that part of the agenda - destroying the nuclear family - has worked a treat....


"It's a good unit - I'd say the Division will hold on until it's down to Brigade strength - but after that..."

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by aquascoot on May 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm
Albo should win pretty easy.

Neither are good for Australia.

What they SHOULD say is

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

But that message would never resonate with the lazy entitled electorate.

So they have to bribe with borrowed dollars and try to scare you about the other guy not bribing as much with borrowed dollars.


Freaking insane but the electorate get leaders who "sync" with their own mindset.

We don't attract what is good for us, we attract what we are  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2025 at 1:12pm

aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm:
Albo should win pretty easy.

Neither are good for Australia.

What they SHOULD say is

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

But that message would never resonate with the lazy entitled electorate.

So they have to bribe with borrowed dollars and try to scare you about the other guy not bribing as much with borrowed dollars.


Freaking insane but the electorate get leaders who "sync" with their own mindset.

We don't attract what is good for us, we attract what we are  :'( :'( :'(


Makes you wonder about the people who vote for One Nation.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Sir lastnail on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 4:21pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!



The election is over - it's finished.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2025 at 5:25pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:21pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!



The election is over - it's finished.


Will the Libs replace Dutton after he loses the election?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:21pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!



The election is over - it's finished.


Will the Libs replace Dutton after he loses the election?



I dunno Greggy -

they are normally ruthless with losers.    :-/

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2025 at 5:30pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:21pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!



The election is over - it's finished.


Will the Libs replace Dutton after he loses the election?



I dunno Greggy -

they are normally ruthless with losers.    :-/


Will they replace him with a woman?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:28pm:
I dunno Greggy -

they are normally ruthless with losers.    :-/


Will they replace him with a woman?



The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably chose  Angus Taylor:


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by philperth2010 on May 1st, 2025 at 5:55pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Dutton is history:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.06

Coalition 10.25



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Dutton is well and truly farked !!!


True....He will also loose the election and the Leadership of the Liberal Party....Who will replace him???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2025 at 6:09pm
Dutton is history - it's over - he's gone:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.05

Coalition 9.50



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by aquascoot on May 1st, 2025 at 8:03pm
I think it's hard to dislike albo.
He's not an intellectual knob like rudd or Wong
He's not overly serious like shorten .
He seems pretty low key.pretty relaxed.
He seems like the sort of bloke. Who if he was your neighbour. You'd lend him your mower.
He seems like he'd invite you over for a BBQ and cook some snags and laugh at a few dirty jokes


All in all, I am surprised he is leading a party like Labor who all seem to have a stick up their ass.

They are probably lucky they've got him.
I think if they gave the leadership to Wong. Plibosek ,Bowen they would  be disconnected from " real' Australia

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Sir lastnail on May 1st, 2025 at 8:28pm

aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
I think it's hard to dislike albo.
He's not an intellectual knob like rudd or Wong
He's not overly serious like shorten .
He seems pretty low key.pretty relaxed.
He seems like the sort of bloke. Who if he was your neighbour. You'd lend him your mower.
He seems like he'd invite you over for a BBQ and cook some snags and laugh at a few dirty jokes


All in all, I am surprised he is leading a party like Labor who all seem to have a stick up their ass.

They are probably lucky they've got him.
I think if they gave the leadership to Wong. Plibosek ,Bowen they would  be disconnected from " real' Australia


The problem with Dutton is that he still thinks he is a cop ready to pounce on someone who steps out of line :D LOL

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:23am

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 6:09pm:
Dutton is history - it's over - he's gone:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.05  1.06

Coalition 9.50  11.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Updated.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 6:09pm:
Dutton is history - it's over - he's gone:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.05  1.06

Coalition 9.50  11.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Updated.



It's over - the election is over.     :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:34am
Majority or minority government?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:38am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:34am:
Majority or minority government?



Hopefully a minority so Labor can't do whatever they want -

that might save us in the next 3 years.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by tickleandrose on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:46am
The election is not over yet.   Dutton is expecting a Morrison style win. 

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:49am

tickleandrose wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:46am:
The election is not over yet.   Dutton is expecting a Morrison style win. 



It's over, it's finished, it's a dead parrot.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:53am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:47am:
They usually say: "The polls always tighten closer to the actual election" ... what happens when the polls are already 50-50 6 months out?  ;D


the libs get screwed :D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:53am

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:38am:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:34am:
Majority or minority government?



Hopefully a minority so Labor can't do whatever they want -

that might save us in the next 3 years.


So speaks a high school dropout! What if Labor has to rely on the neoliberal Greens?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:54am

What about Dutton's seat of Dickson?

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/electorate-betting-8866861

Sportsbet

Dutton   1.38

Labor 3.35





Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:57am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:53am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:38am:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:34am:
Majority or minority government?



Hopefully a minority so Labor can't do whatever they want -

that might save us in the next 3 years.


So speaks a high school dropout! What if Labor has to rely on the neoliberal Greens?



Monk is a high school dropout.

https://greens.org.au/wa/magazine/neoliberalism-unhinged

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Sir lastnail on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 8:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 6:09pm:
Dutton is history - it's over - he's gone:


Sportsbet

Labor 1.05  1.06

Coalition 9.50  11.00



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


Updated.


Dutton is farkeeeeeeeeed !!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Will they replace him with a woman?

The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably choose Angus Taylor:



Love her or hate her, Julie Bishop is the ONLY female LibNat I've ever had any respect for



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:27am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Will they replace him with a woman?

The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably choose Angus Taylor:



Love her or hate her, Julie Bishop is the ONLY female LibNat I've ever had any respect for


Well, she's too busy throwing swinger parties with her rich boyfriend.

Who does that leave?   :-/

Not Cash, surely.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:27am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Will they replace him with a woman?

The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably choose Angus Taylor:



Love her or hate her, Julie Bishop is the ONLY female LibNat I've ever had any respect for



She is not an MP anymore - she retired in 2019.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by tickleandrose on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:31am
The problem with the modern liberal party is that there are not much moderates left.  Just a bunch of angry old man really who is not happy about anything except for themselves.   Well, at least thats the vibe I get. 

They are even getting the exclusive brethren to hand out pamphlets!   If that is not out of touch with modern society, I dont know what is. 

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 2nd, 2025 at 3:54pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:27am:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Will they replace him with a woman?

The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably choose Angus Taylor:



Love her or hate her, Julie Bishop is the ONLY female LibNat I've ever had any respect for



She is not an MP anymore - she retired in 2019.



This is universally realised - just pointing out there's been no one rise through the ranks to come anywhere near her for integrity and drive

Senator James Paterson comes close. but as a Senator, he's intelligible to take his career any further - and will only ever toe the party line,

.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:11pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:27am:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 5:43pm:
Will they replace him with a woman?

The Libbos don't have a woman with balls like Maggie Thatcher.

They will probably choose Angus Taylor:



Love her or hate her, Julie Bishop is the ONLY female LibNat I've ever had any respect for



She is not an MP anymore - she retired in 2019.



This is universally realised - just pointing out there's been no one rise through the ranks to come anywhere near her for integrity and drive

Senator James Paterson comes close. but as a Senator, he's intelligible to take his career any further - and will only ever toe the party line,

.


That's a common myth.

Despite being a member of the Senate he can still become PM.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm

Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:44pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)


Not answering questions has been the norm for Dutton, why should we start demanding it of Albo first who for the most part has not been running from the media this whole time.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:47pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)


Not answering questions has been the norm for Dutton, why should we start demanding it of Albo first who for the most part has not been running from the media this whole time.



They all do it but it's up to the media to try and keep them on topic.

Albo obviously went on to the show to promote his ideas for the election tomorrow
and no question was going to stop him.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on May 2nd, 2025 at 6:38pm
Final prediction prior to the main vote ...

IMHO it is certain Labor will form government, but I still think there is no net gain for Labor, so a minority Labor government awaits.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 7:33pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)



Hold on -

The ABC asked both Albo and Dutton what they would do if they lost and
both avoided the question and said what their election policies were.
They were both let off the hook.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 2nd, 2025 at 11:47pm
This Friday night before the election tomorrow -
an almost certain win for Labor.


Sportsbet

Labor   1.08

Coalition  9.30



https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:17am
Our voting system:

https://votingsystemspreferentialandproportional.weebly.com/preferential-pros-and-cons.html



PREFERENTIAL

ADVANTAGES
-        The successful candidate has to achieve an absolute majority so all votes and 2nd votes and so on may be used, preventing vote wastage

-        Preference allocations allowing people to have their other choices and views represented

-        No gerrymandering in Australia in particular as the Australia Electoral Commission

-        It allows particles of like-minded philosophies or policies to ‘exchange preferences,’ in order to assist each other win

Promotes a strong two party system, ensuring stability in the parliamentary process


DISADVANTAGES

-        Very complex system, that is often found difficult to complete

-        Very hard also to count and recount votes, can take a very long, strenuous time to count

-        Donkey votes can become more occurent as people may not understand the voting process, or just not care, creating an unfair result

-        When people use a ‘how to vote card’, they often can give away votes, without meaning to

-        Promotes a ‘two party system’ that is detrimental to minor parties and independent

Voters have to express a preference for candidates that they don’t want to support at all. (NSW and Queensland solved this by having optional preferential voting)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:31am

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 7:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)



Hold on -

The ABC asked both Albo and Dutton what they would do if they lost and
both avoided the question and said what their election policies were.
They were both let off the hook.


That one I'll give them both a free pass.

You can't project that you expect to lose to the point of having planned it out before the vote is even cast.

That's almost as bad as what Wong did, reviving the Voice idea.

No, that's an acceptable question for both to avoid.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:38am

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 7:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)



Hold on -

The ABC asked both Albo and Dutton what they would do if they lost and
both avoided the question and said what their election policies were.
They were both let off the hook.


That one I'll give them both a free pass.

You can't project that you expect to lose to the point of having planned it out before the vote is even cast.

That's almost as bad as what Wong did, reviving the Voice idea.

No, that's an acceptable question for both to avoid.



I admit that it was  cheeky type of question but both
leaders should have said - or words to that effect that -
they would not answer it -
rather than pretend the question never existed -
it's just plain dishonesty and we see it for almost every question
in question time in parliament too.

I don't vote for dishonest people.
Albo and Dutton are both dishonest.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by SerialBrain9 on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:24am
Albozo, Wong and the Chinks…

Why aren’t they being arrested?  >:(

IMG_6938-compressed.jpeg (104 KB | 2 )

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gordon on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29am
Labor is a dead certain to win, I just put $1000 @ 1.10.

Will my win offset the inflation they will cause?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:38am

Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29am:
Labor is a dead certain to win, I just put $1000 @ 1.10.

Will my win offset the inflation they will cause?



You won't be happy if Dutton gets a miracle like ScoMo.   ;D


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gordon on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:38am:

Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29am:
Labor is a dead certain to win, I just put $1000 @ 1.10.

Will my win offset the inflation they will cause?



You won't be happy if Dutton gets a miracle like ScoMo.   ;D


I'll be happy either way because if Dutto wins I'll be better off.
The bet was just insurance Win win.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:38am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 7:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Albo was just on ABC 24 -

he was asked a question about street crime in Melbourne
and his answer had nothing to do with street crime -
it was about Labor's election policies on everything else.

The ABC person who asked the question didn't even re-ask it
or pull Albo up on avoiding the question.
So - the ABC is giving Albo a free ride.   ::)



Hold on -

The ABC asked both Albo and Dutton what they would do if they lost and
both avoided the question and said what their election policies were.
They were both let off the hook.


That one I'll give them both a free pass.

You can't project that you expect to lose to the point of having planned it out before the vote is even cast.

That's almost as bad as what Wong did, reviving the Voice idea.

No, that's an acceptable question for both to avoid.



I admit that it was  cheeky type of question but both
leaders should have said - or words to that effect that -
they would not answer it -
rather than pretend the question never existed -
it's just plain dishonesty and we see it for almost every question
in question time in parliament too.

I don't vote for dishonest people.
Albo and Dutton are both dishonest.


They're politicians, they’re not going to pass up a microphone if one’s going.

I’ve got time for those who, especially during Question Time or Senate hearings, actually answer the question they’re asked rather than using it as a springboard for whatever talking points their staffers handed them that morning. But let’s be honest, those ones are rare. Usually, they’re the quieter moderates from Labor or the more principled Independents. You won’t find them in the Coalition, never have.

That’s largely because the Coalition weeds out anyone remotely connected to their electorate during preselection. The only ones who slip through are a few from the Nationals, and even then, they’re pushed to the back bench and are rarely given the chance to speak or eventually go Independent once the penny drops.

The system’s not perfect, but it's the best we have, better than most. But pretending there’s no difference between Labor and the Coalition with the Uniparty line, or "they all do it"...

That’s just think tank rot, fed to people to muddy the waters and make Coalition rule seem inevitable.

The differences are vast, especially in terms of who each party actually governs for once they’ve won office.

Now more than ever, the electorate will need to be tricked into voting for the Coalition as it's become abundantly clear, they're not the better economic managers and they don't govern for us.

After one term of Labor, they've improved on nearly every metric that was either stagnant or going backwards under the last Coalition stint.  But if you believe the Coalition advertising, things have never been worse.

Like I said, we as an electorate need to be tricked into voting for them.  It's their only way back into office.

And them taking the Trump approach this time, it's clear he did that to the US too, tricked them into voting for him and now the pain is about to hit worse than ever.

It's too late for them, but hopefully not for us.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:40am
Kanga,

Quote:
The differences are vast,
especially in terms of who each party actually governs for once they’ve won office.


No they are not.
Both Labor and Libbos are pretty much the same.
Neither will answer hard questions.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:45am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:40am:
No they are not.



yes they are ... thats why you spend years crying about Albo, Dan and everyone else related to labor

one day you'll get your wish and the libs will cut your dole and medicare... then you'll cry that they were ever elected

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:40am:
No they are not.



yes they are ... thats why you spend years crying about Albo, Dan and everyone else related to labor

one day you'll get your wish and the libs will cut your dole and medicare... then you'll cry that they were ever elected



I have never received a penny of social security in my life.
I applied twice after losing 2 different jobs - both times retrenched-
over 20 years apart -
and they found many reasons to refuse me any money -
both times under a Labor Govt.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:54am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am:
I have never received a penny of social security in my life.


you're not on a pension? :D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:58am

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:54am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am:
I have never received a penny of social security in my life.


you're not on a pension? :D



No - no pension - I'm not old enough.

Never applied for their dole -
I knew they would stuff me around and
ask me to apply for 20 jobs per month. etc.
I don't want a job -
I'm fed up with the work force - it's for suckers.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:01am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:58am:

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:54am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am:
I have never received a penny of social security in my life.


you're not on a pension? :D



No - no pension - I'm not old enough.

Never applied for their dole -
I knew they would stuff me around and
ask me to apply for 20 jobs per month. etc.
I don't want a job -
I'm fed up with the work force - it's for suckers.


Same.

I left work to look after my parents, but now they have both passed away.

Too young for the pension, and I'm not applying for JobSeeker.

I'm just living off my savings.

And yeah, I could never return to the normal workforce - it is for suckers.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:01am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:58am:

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:54am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am:
I have never received a penny of social security in my life.


you're not on a pension? :D



No - no pension - I'm not old enough.

Never applied for their dole -
I knew they would stuff me around and
ask me to apply for 20 jobs per month. etc.
I don't want a job -
I'm fed up with the work force - it's for suckers.


Same.

I left work to look after my parents, but now they have both passed away.

Too young for the pension, and I'm not applying for JobSeeker.

I'm just living off my savings.

And yeah, I could never return to the normal workforce - it is for suckers.



We have something in common.

I made far more GST for the Govt than I ever made in wages for myself.
It seems that everyone was making big money out of my work except me.
Stuff them all.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:09am

I had to wait 1 hour and 15 minutes in line – just got back.

Only 2 officers issuing ballot papers for about 200 people in line.
Some people started arguing in the line.   ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:19am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:09am:
I had to wait 1 hour and 15 minutes in line – just got back.

Only 2 officers issuing ballot papers for about 200 people in line.
Some people started arguing in the line.   ::)


Jesus!  Over an hour.  I'd never do that.

I voted on Wednesday.

Nine minutes in line, then five minutes inside.

All done in less than 15 minutes  :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:19am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:09am:
I had to wait 1 hour and 15 minutes in line – just got back.

Only 2 officers issuing ballot papers for about 200 people in line.
Some people started arguing in the line.   ::)


Jesus!  Over an hour.  I'd never do that.

I voted on Wednesday.

Nine minutes in line, then five minutes inside.

All done in less than 15 minutes  :)



You lucky devil.

1 hour and 15 minutes in line was the longest ever for me.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:32am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:01am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:58am:

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:54am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:53am:
I have never received a penny of social security in my life.


you're not on a pension? :D



No - no pension - I'm not old enough.

Never applied for their dole -
I knew they would stuff me around and
ask me to apply for 20 jobs per month. etc.
I don't want a job -
I'm fed up with the work force - it's for suckers.


Same.

I left work to look after my parents, but now they have both passed away.

Too young for the pension, and I'm not applying for JobSeeker.

I'm just living off my savings.

And yeah, I could never return to the normal workforce - it is for suckers.



We have something in common.

I made far more GST for the Govt than I ever made in wages for myself.
It seems that everyone was making big money out of my work except me.
Stuff them all.


I just can't handle office people anymore.

And meetings   >:(

FFS, we used to have meetings to discuss when we would have our next meeting.

Too much paperwork, too many meetings and too many people passing the buck.

I'll never go back to that.

I just do some voluntary work on an orchard now and drive some old people around to medical appointments.

Also take dogs into nursing homes to entertain the poor old buggers there.

I don't receive a cent, but it's far more rewarding than anything I've ever done for a wage.




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:32am:
I just can't handle office people anymore.

And meetings   >:(

FFS, we used to have meetings to discuss when we would have our next meeting.

Too much paperwork, too many meetings and too many people passing the buck.

I'll never go back to that.

I just do some voluntary work on an orchard now and drive some old people around to medical appointments.

Also take dogs into nursing homes to entertain the poor old buggers there.

I don't receive a cent, but it's far more rewarding than anything I've ever done for a wage.




Ohh God - meetings -  :-X
it was always the people who knew the least who said the most.

Glad you found something good to do.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:41am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:32am:
I just can't handle office people anymore.

And meetings   >:(

FFS, we used to have meetings to discuss when we would have our next meeting.

Too much paperwork, too many meetings and too many people passing the buck.

I'll never go back to that.

I just do some voluntary work on an orchard now and drive some old people around to medical appointments.

Also take dogs into nursing homes to entertain the poor old buggers there.

I don't receive a cent, but it's far more rewarding than anything I've ever done for a wage.




Ohh God - meetings -  :-X
it was always the people who knew the least who said the most.

Glad you found something good to do.


And there's always one prick in the meeting who keeps it going longer than needed.

Chairperson: "So, if there are no further questions, I'll close the meeting.".

Dickhead in the corner: "Actually, I have a question".

Everybody else: "Groan"  :(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on May 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm
Well, that was annoying.
It took over 30 mins to vote today. There were fewer actual voting stations at our usual booth today. A long line.  :(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 2:33pm

Captain Nemo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm:
Well, that was annoying.
It took over 30 mins to vote today. There were fewer actual voting stations at our usual booth today. A long line.  :(


Early polling is the way to go.

Although, this year is the first time I've ever had to queue at an early polling booth.

There were about 20 people in front of me, and it took nine minutes to get to the front.

All up, the whole process took 14 minutes.

Every other year it's been 5 or 6 minutes total.

It's still better than lining up at a school on Saturday morning though.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 2:33pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm:
Well, that was annoying.
It took over 30 mins to vote today. There were fewer actual voting stations at our usual booth today. A long line.  :(


Early polling is the way to go.

Although, this year is the first time I've ever had to queue at an early polling booth.

There were about 20 people in front of me, and it took nine minutes to get to the front.

All up, the whole process took 14 minutes.

Every other year it's been 5 or 6 minutes total.

It's still better than lining up at a school on Saturday morning though.



So you never got a democracy sausage into ya?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:33pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 2:33pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm:
Well, that was annoying.
It took over 30 mins to vote today. There were fewer actual voting stations at our usual booth today. A long line.  :(


Early polling is the way to go.

Although, this year is the first time I've ever had to queue at an early polling booth.

There were about 20 people in front of me, and it took nine minutes to get to the front.

All up, the whole process took 14 minutes.

Every other year it's been 5 or 6 minutes total.

It's still better than lining up at a school on Saturday morning though.



So you never got a democracy sausage into ya?


Not in the last 20 years.

Last time I voted at a school on election day was 11 March 2006, when I worked for Ben Wyatt.

"As largely predicted, Ben Wyatt retained the seat for the Labor party, with a swing against him of 4.86%. Wyatt claimed victory within two hours and became one of three Aboriginal parliamentarians in Western Australia."

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:45pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7wl2EzqtZg

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 4:33pm:
Not in the last 20 years.

Last time I voted at a school on election day was 11 March 2006, when I worked for Ben Wyatt.

"As largely predicted, Ben Wyatt retained the seat for the Labor party, with a swing against him of 4.86%. Wyatt claimed victory within two hours and became one of three Aboriginal parliamentarians in Western Australia."



You worked for Ben Wyatt -  you were a Labor Party employee?

That explains everything.   ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:22pm

Did you all know that political parties are allowed to tell lies in their election pitch?

I saw the Labor party how to vote card - it was full of well known lies -
the most obvious one was about Dutton's $600 billion nuclear plan.
The real figure is not even half that.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Baronvonrort on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time


He'll still be Prime Minister though.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time


He'll still be Prime Minister though.



The Libbos will consider a minority Labor Govt. as a win.    ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:51pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time


He'll still be Prime Minister though.



The Libbos will consider a minority Labor Govt. as a win.    ;)


Does that mean they'll keep Dutton as leader?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time


He'll still be Prime Minister though.



The Libbos will consider a minority Labor Govt. as a win.    ;)


Does that mean they'll keep Dutton as leader?



Nahh - Angus will get the steering wheel.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Baronvonrort on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:27pm
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albo_retire.jpg (89 KB | 2 )

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:50pm
;D


Sportsbet

Labor  1.04

Coalition  11.00


https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:55pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:27pm:
.


Good on him.

And good on Howard and all the Liberal Prime Ministers who have done the same.

If you think it's so easy, run for Prime Minister yourself.

Nothing is stopping you from doing the same.



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:58pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 5:46pm:
AnAl was elected with 32.5% first preference votes last time.

I doubt he will get that many first preference votes this time


He'll still be Prime Minister though.



The Libbos will consider a minority Labor Govt. as a win.    ;)


Does that mean they'll keep Dutton as leader?



Nahh - Angus will get the steering wheel.



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm
;D    ;D    ;D


Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  19.00


https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm:
;D    ;D    ;D


Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  19.00


https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/48th-parliament-of-australia-8571604


So, Dutton still has a chance?   :-/

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:14pm:
So, Dutton still has a chance?   :-/



Dutton reckons he's gunna get a miracle like ScoMo.   :)


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:18pm
Antony Green predicted the election yet?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



of course he is -

the country can't survive 3 more years of Labor -

imagine millions more immigrants?     :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:28pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



of course he is -


He might just pull it off.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:29pm


Will Dutton lose his seat? 5.8% swing with 5% counted. We might see a surprise.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:31pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:29pm:
Will Dutton lose his seat? 5.8% swing with 5% counted. We might see a surprise.


I hope so.

That would be the icing on the cake.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:29pm:
Will Dutton lose his seat? 5.8% swing with 5% counted. We might see a surprise.


I hope so.

That would be the icing on the cake.



Poor Dutton - that would be a humiliation.     :'(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:18pm:
Antony Green predicted the election yet?


No, but he pretty much hinted at it a few minutes ago.

The Libs are buggered.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:18pm:
Antony Green predicted the election yet?


No, but he pretty much hinted at it a few minutes ago.

The Libs are buggered.



That's one way to put it.     :-X

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:34pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:18pm:
Antony Green predicted the election yet?


No, but he pretty much hinted at it a few minutes ago.

The Libs are buggered.



That's one way to put it.     :-X


Antony Green said: "I'm not really prepared to call it just yet, but there is absolutely nothing good for the Libs".

;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:35pm
5% counted.

3.2% swing to Labor.       :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:37pm

AG: "Labor outperforming in all areas."


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:45pm

Liberal dude just predicted a "thumping"   :o

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



But with a swing against him, personally

it's not sure if this is down to his nuclear power station policy ?

or his over the counter, non-prescription supermarket nicotine vape policy ?

The nationwide swing to Labor is around 5% average

.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:49pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



But with a swing against him, personally

it's not sure if this is down to his nuclear power station policy ?

or his over the counter, non-prescription, nicotine vape policy ?

The nationwide swing to Labor is around 5% average

.


The Libs ran a terrible campaign, they had poo policies and Dutton is a poo candidate.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:49pm:
The Libs ran a terrible campaign, they had poo policies and Dutton is a poo candidate.



their main policies they either flip flopped on, or didn't want to talk about :D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:57pm

poor Peter -

he could get PTSD after this.    :(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by tickleandrose on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:00pm
Liberals need to be more moderate.  Fire that person who decided its good idea to associate with Exclusive Brethren.    May be get Josh Frydenberg back.   Angus is not going to cut it.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:01pm
Hopefully the Green vote goes way down in the Senate.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:03pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:57pm:
poor Peter -

he could get PTSD after this.    :(


Peter Talks Shit Daily?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:49pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



But with a swing against him, personally

it's not sure if this is down to his nuclear power station policy ?

or his over the counter, non-prescription, nicotine vape policy ?

The nationwide swing to Labor is around 5% average

.


The Libs ran a terrible campaign, they had poo policies and Dutton is a poo candidate.



... yet just a decade back, he was touted as a future Coalition PM


.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:13pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:49pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



But with a swing against him, personally

it's not sure if this is down to his nuclear power station policy ?

or his over the counter, non-prescription, nicotine vape policy ?

The nationwide swing to Labor is around 5% average

.


The Libs ran a terrible campaign, they had poo policies and Dutton is a poo candidate.



... yet just a decade back, he was touted as a future Coalition PM


.


He was a huge mistake.

Liberals organise meetings to discuss who might replace Dutton before a vote counted

Mind you, I thought Albo was a huge mistake for Labor but he's turned out to be very good for them.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:21pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Sportsbet

Labor  1.01

Coalition  21.00


Dutton's still in the race then?



But with a swing against him, personally

it's not sure if this is down to his nuclear power station policy ?

or his over the counter, non-prescription supermarket nicotine vape policy ?

The nationwide swing to Labor is around 5% average

.




it's all reminding me of the Rudd Labor victory where Howard lost his seat


.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:26pm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:28pm

Dutton is being butt slammed -

he is gunna lose his seat  -  like Howard -

humiliating.     :-[

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29pm
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1727480849/358#358 date=1746268084]
Dutton is being butt slammed -

he is gunna lose his seat  -  like Howard -

humiliating.     :-[/quote]

Yeah  :)

I might open a second bottle of Margaret River red to celebrate.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:30pm
Dutton is history. Nice!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm

Antony Green has called it for Labor.

"It could be a BIG win for Labor, but it's certainly a win".


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gordon on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm
I made 1k.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1727480849/358#358 date=1746268084]
Dutton is being butt slammed -

he is gunna lose his seat  -  like Howard -

humiliating.     :-[/quote]

Yeah  :)

I might open a second bottle of Margaret River red to celebrate.



Nahh - you don't wanna wake up with a Labor hangover.  :-[
( like Monk )

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:32pm

Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm:
I made 1k.



You bet $1,000  so you made $100 profit.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:33pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:29pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1727480849/358#358 date=1746268084]
Dutton is being butt slammed -

he is gunna lose his seat  -  like Howard -

humiliating.     :-[/quote]

Yeah  :)

I might open a second bottle of Margaret River red to celebrate.



Nahh - you don't wanna wake up with a Labor hangover.  :-[
( like Monk )


I don't get hangovers.

Antony Green: "It could be a BIG win for Labor, but it's certainly a win".


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:33pm
Sipping Tassie water here. . .

Did have 2 stubbies Coopers Sparkling Ale earlier during the Brew Rat Chat as usual.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:34pm

Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:31pm:
I made 1k.


26 million Australians have done even better than that.

"It could be a BIG win for Labor, but it's certainly a win".

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:35pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:33pm:
Sipping Tassie water here. . .

Did have 2 stubbies Coopers Sparkling Ale earlier during the Brew Rat Chat as usual.



Now you're on the goon bag.   ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:37pm
And what is wrong with that horrible James McGrath person? What a wank stain.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:38pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:35pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:33pm:
Sipping Tassie water here. . .

Did have 2 stubbies Coopers Sparkling Ale earlier during the Brew Rat Chat as usual.



Now you're on the goon bag.   ::)



Water, you ASPD creep!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:39pm
.


ALP wins DICKSON

9.2% SWING AGAIST DUTTON






.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:40pm
Looks like, eh? What a nice person to lose his seat, couldn’t think of anyone who deserves it more!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm
9.2% swing against Dutton!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm
Congratulations to labor.
A important win in the history of the country.

The Lnp has simply imploded and I hope they can pull themselves together and offer up a credible opposition and hopefully a better choice for government in 3 years time.

It’s time to embrace the labor parties policies and work together too make them succeed.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:37pm:
And what is wrong with that horrible James McGrath person? What a wank stain.


He still won't concede.

His tongue is so far up Dutton's poo hole it's not funny.

I'm guessing he's hoping for a job in whatever company Dutton becomes CEO of after this massive election loss.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:45pm

Channel 7 says Dutton has lost Dickson.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm
Nice to see Labor primary vote is higher, 35%

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
Congratulations to labor.
A important win in the history of the country.

The Lnp has simply imploded and I hope they can pull themselves together and offer up a credible opposition and hopefully a better choice for government in 3 years time.

It’s time to embrace the labor parties policies and work together too make them succeed.


dutton was hoping to cash in on the rise of trump ... his problem is that aussies aren't as stupid as the yanks are

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:37pm:
And what is wrong with that horrible James McGrath person? What a wank stain.


He still won't concede.

His tongue is so far up Dutton's poo hole it's not funny.

I'm guessing he's hoping for a job in whatever company Dutton becomes CEO of after this massive election loss.



Did you see CHalmers when McGrath had his hissy fit about the Greens? It was all he could do not to actively facepalm.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:45pm:
Channel 7 says Dutton has lost Dickson.


I wouldn't want to be the Dutton family dog tonight.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:48pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:37pm:
And what is wrong with that horrible James McGrath person? What a wank stain.


He still won't concede.

His tongue is so far up Dutton's poo hole it's not funny.

I'm guessing he's hoping for a job in whatever company Dutton becomes CEO of after this massive election loss.



Did you see CHalmers when McGrath had his hissy fit about the Greens? It was all he could do not to actively facepalm.


They just can't believe what an idiot he is.

"Tell us what you really think"   ;D

He really is a deluded, ass-licking piece of poo.

"Just wait for the pre-poll numbers".




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:57pm

Poor old Frannie will wake up tomorrow in his nursing home to find out that Dutton has lost (twice), and then he'll realise that Trump had a lot to do with it.

Life is good   :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:57pm:
Poor old Frannie will wake up tomorrow in his nursing home to find out that Dutton has lost (twice), and then he'll realise that Trump had a lot to do with it.

Life is good   :)



But ... but.... the paradigm shift!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:01pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:57pm:
Poor old Frannie will wake up tomorrow in his nursing home to find out that Dutton has lost (twice), and then he'll realise that Trump had a lot to do with it.

Life is good   :)



But ... but.... the paradigm shift!




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:03pm

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
Congratulations to labor.
A important win in the history of the country.

The Lnp has simply imploded and I hope they can pull themselves together and offer up a credible opposition and hopefully a better choice for government in 3 years time.

It’s time to embrace the labor parties policies and work together too make them succeed.


dutton was hoping to cash in on the rise of trump ... his problem is that aussies aren't as stupid as the yanks are


Possibly, I believe that many more issues played a part as well.

It’s important now that we accept the results and work together constructively to see policy such as renewable energy are successful.

We aren’t Americans and we respect the democratic process.

It’s fair to offer improvements to labor policies but we must do it from a positive perspective.

They are the return government.

I have nothing but support to offer them.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:03pm

LABOR WINS ELECTION

Albanese government returned to office as Dutton voted out of parliament



Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!



I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat




.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:08pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!



I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat




.


You took the words right out of my mouth   :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:11pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


He lost because he tried to be Australia's Trump.

And, he's a front bottom.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:11pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


Really letting the ASPD out for a trot tonight, eh?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


He lost because he tried to be Australia's Trump.

And, he's a front bottom.



No - I'm serious -
there are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1734646942/0#0

Dutton lost the poofter vote.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:15pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


He lost because he tried to be Australia's Trump.

And, he's a front bottom.



No - I'm serious -
there are 1 million poofters in Australia ...


I'm not questioning your expertise, Bobbi.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:15pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.




Doesn't matter what the thread, what subject is being discussed, how utterly irrelevant it is ... you always make it gay.

Always.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm
My ALP MP won with over 70%!

Good times.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:18pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
My ALP MP won with over 70%!

Good times.


Excellent!  70%!!!

No results for my seat yet   :(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:18pm
No idea what electorate I am in. Not on roll ATM due doxxers incl Booby/Aussie but a creep from Twitter as well.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:20pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:03pm:

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
Congratulations to labor.
A important win in the history of the country.

The Lnp has simply imploded and I hope they can pull themselves together and offer up a credible opposition and hopefully a better choice for government in 3 years time.

It’s time to embrace the labor parties policies and work together too make them succeed.


dutton was hoping to cash in on the rise of trump ... his problem is that aussies aren't as stupid as the yanks are


Possibly, I believe that many more issues played a part as well.

It’s important now that we accept the results and work together constructively to see policy such as renewable energy are successful.

We aren’t Americans and we respect the democratic process.

It’s fair to offer improvements to labor policies but we must do it from a positive perspective.

They are the return government.

I have nothing but support to offer them.



his nuclear crap also played a big part .... aussies don't want nuclear plants in their backyards

that and the fact that he managed to outspend albo, even on issues he spent years opposing

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:20pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:09pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
9.2% swing against Dutton!


I can't wait to see his concession speeches

1. For losing the election

2, For losing his own seat


.



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.




Doesn't matter what the thread, what subject is being discussed, how utterly irrelevant it is ... you always make it gay.

Always.


He's a little obsessed, yes.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:21pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:
Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.


Don't lie, we know you voted for him

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:22pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+



Obsessed. You utterly obsessed.

And wrong. Dutton lost because for the first time ever, the Zoomers and the Millennials outnumbered the Boomers.

It's just that simple. Expect more unless the coalition can become less out of touch and repulsive.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:23pm

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:20pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:03pm:

John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 8:42pm:
Congratulations to labor.
A important win in the history of the country.

The Lnp has simply imploded and I hope they can pull themselves together and offer up a credible opposition and hopefully a better choice for government in 3 years time.

It’s time to embrace the labor parties policies and work together too make them succeed.


dutton was hoping to cash in on the rise of trump ... his problem is that aussies aren't as stupid as the yanks are


Possibly, I believe that many more issues played a part as well.

It’s important now that we accept the results and work together constructively to see policy such as renewable energy are successful.

We aren’t Americans and we respect the democratic process.

It’s fair to offer improvements to labor policies but we must do it from a positive perspective.

They are the return government.

I have nothing but support to offer them.



his nuclear crap also played a big part .... aussies don't want nuclear plants in their backyards

that and the fact that he managed to outspend albo, even on issues he spent years opposing



And in the final week when he should have been disclosing costings and policies, he went on the culture war rampage.

Tone-deaf.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:24pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+



Obsessed. You utterly obsessed.

And wrong. Dutton lost because for the first time ever, the Zoomers and the Millennials outnumbered the Boomers.

It's just that simple. Expect more unless the coalition can become less out of touch and repulsive.


100% correct.

The Boomers are rusted on.

The Zoomers and the Millennials are not.

The Libs were too stupid to realise that.




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:24pm

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+



Obsessed. You utterly obsessed.

And wrong. Dutton lost because for the first time ever, the Zoomers and the Millennials outnumbered the Boomers.

It's just that simple. Expect more unless the coalition can become less out of touch and repulsive.



When our standard of living plummets more,
when we get millions more immigrants who have nowhere to live -

I'll blame the poofters for voting for Albo.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:28pm
*Anti*Social*Personality*Disorder*

Immune to reason.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by tickleandrose on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:28pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:24pm:

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+



Obsessed. You utterly obsessed.

And wrong. Dutton lost because for the first time ever, the Zoomers and the Millennials outnumbered the Boomers.

It's just that simple. Expect more unless the coalition can become less out of touch and repulsive.



When our standard of living plummets more,
when we get millions more immigrants who have nowhere to live -

I'll blame the poofters for voting for Albo.


And those people also have families and friends.  Many of them Liberal as well, but they wont stand aside to let liberals discriminate against them. 

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:28pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:24pm:

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:16pm:
Pathetic “reasoning.” Dutton never had any gay/lesbian support.

More to do with the nuclear flip flop etc. Lack of policy substance.

Nah, your ASPD on full public view tonight, creep!



Dutton lost because he lost the poofter vote.
There are 1 million poofters in Australia and Albo appealed to them.
Dutton lost the poofter vote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/lgbti-population-abs-data/104746854

More than 910,000 Australians — or 4.5 per cent of the population — identify as LGBTI+



Obsessed. You utterly obsessed.

And wrong. Dutton lost because for the first time ever, the Zoomers and the Millennials outnumbered the Boomers.

It's just that simple. Expect more unless the coalition can become less out of touch and repulsive.



When our standard of living plummets more,
when we get millions more immigrants who have nowhere to live -

I'll blame the poofters for voting for Albo.


I haven't had any income for three years.

Despite that, tonight I celebrated with Margaret River wine and rib eye steak.

I'm better off now than I was three years ago, despite not having a regular wage.

Thanks Albo   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm
Concession speech coming up

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm


Dutton speech.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:35pm
Emotional, of course, but reasonable—should have let that side show more.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm:
Dutton speech.



I thought it was awesome.

Very hard to keep your head straight when obviously in such a difficult headspace.

Very respectful.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:43pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm:
Dutton speech.



I thought it was awesome.

Very hard to keep your head straight when obviously in such a difficult headspace.

Very respectful.



Good speech - I think he was holding back tears.     :'(    :'(    :'(

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:47pm
Leigh Sales

Quote:
Coalition must question identity: Analysis with Leigh Sales
L
By Leigh Sales

After its 2022 loss to Labor and the elevation of Peter Dutton to the leadership, the coalition decided the path to re-election was a move to the right.

This election result is a repudiation of that.

The Coalition has not won back any of its blue-ribbon Liberal heartland seats, such as Wentworth or Kooyong.

It has not picked up any suburban seats from Labor, based on the current numbers.

Coalition MPs have talked about cost of living and energy prices, but too much time and passion were hijacked by so-called culture war issues, such as Indigenous welcomes to country and the "hate media".

What that suggests is that the issues the Coalition is talking about, and focusing on, are the wrong things: distractions the regular Australian doesn't really care about.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/federal-election-2025-live-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:51pm
It’s a massacre.

🤦‍♀️ ffs😞

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm

Looks like the Greens have zero seats now?




Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:54pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm:
Dutton speech.



I thought it was awesome.

Very hard to keep your head straight when obviously in such a difficult headspace.

Very respectful.


Yep, good speech.

I give him credit for that.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:56pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now?


Always look on the bright side of life 😎

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:58pm
Victory speech now PM Albo

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:59pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now?


Always look on the bright side of life 😎



Adam Bandt lost his seat in Melbourne?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:00pm
Don’t know . Imo opinion it’s better to have a majority government.

Not my side but still best for the country.

I’m watching Albo .

Being respectful and responsible in his victory speech

His buzzing.

Great to see.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:03pm
He is no Gough Whitlam  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But nothing wrong in the speech, incl the little dig at Welcome to Country  ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:03pm
I’m shocked really.

It wasn’t a win but a hammering.

🤦‍♀️ Ffs 🤦

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm
Probably the first I did not help in any way, no letterboxing or handing out HTV or anything. Hmmm.

Second.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm

OK - so who will control the Senate?

That is the question.

Will Labor get a blank cheque?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:06pm

A stunning result across the country.

I thought Dutton's concession speech was good. Congratulated Albo and his winning candidate in Dixon. No sour grapes at all.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:08pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm:
Probably the first I did not help in any way, no letterboxing or handing out HTV or anything. Hmmm.

Second.


Yes your obviously poison ☠️ 😅

Lnp will happily fund you too support labor next election 😜

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:08pm

Captain Nemo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:06pm:
A stunning result across the country.

I thought Dutton's concession speech was good. Congratulated Albo and his winning candidate in Dixon. No sour grapes at all.


Agree 100%

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:10pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm:
Probably the first I did not help in any way, no letterboxing or handing out HTV or anything. Hmmm.

Second.



So - a confession -

Monk is a Labor party hack.    ;)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:11pm
Nice work with the green and gold Medicare card.

Doctors are crying atm

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:12pm
Can we show who voted in poll above ?

I predicted Labor Majority government months ago

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:12pm
10 Independents—that a record? All teals?

No Greens in Reps. Wow!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:13pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm:
OK - so who will control the Senate?

That is the question.

Will Labor get a blank cheque?


God help us if that happens!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:14pm

LNP never again wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:12pm:
Can we show who voted in poll above ?

I predicted Labor Majority government months ago


I never vote in polls here:

1. Never enough for worthwhile result

2. No weeding out of sock votes

3. Most polls here are stupid.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:14pm

LNP never again wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:12pm:
Can we show who voted in poll above ?

I predicted Labor Majority government months ago


Labor minority.

I’m humbled .

Totally blindsided by the results.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:18pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:05pm:
OK - so who will control the Senate?

That is the question.

Will Labor get a blank cheque?


God help us if that happens!



It might take a week or so until we know.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:23pm
Only problem having the election today. . . the Lure Coursing Fun Run was cancelled (wailing and lamentations. . .)

;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:24pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:32pm:
Dutton speech.



I thought it was awesome.

Very hard to keep your head straight when obviously in such a difficult headspace.

Very respectful.



i have to agree
Awesome AND respectful
As was Albo's



ALP now has 87 seats - and rising
LibNats at 37 - and steady




.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:27pm
Dutton lost his seat?

Hahaha!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:28pm
But no sour grapes eh Booby? Jeez.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:29pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:27pm:
Dutton lost his seat?

Hahaha!


Yeah, was pretty funny   :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:29pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


We've got 3 years to change you mind :)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:30pm

An historic victory.

A Labor landslide.

Well done Albo; suck eggs Dutton.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:30pm
Now the Senate. . .will there be fewer Green Senators? Hope so.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:36pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


We've got 3 years to change you mind :)



No - seriously - Labor has put us on the wrong track -
they haven't addressed the core problems -
the problems they created which will only get worse.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.



that worked out well for you :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:42pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:36pm:
No - seriously - Labor has put us on the wrong track -


no scandals
no corruption
no rapes
2 surpluses

not doing it for you? Prefer the chaos and turmoil of the libs do you?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:48pm
Doesn’t matter what track we are on now.

We all have to work together to make it the right track.

We can get off the at the station in three years time but for now we must make things happen for the better of our country.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:51pm
2 greens seats held

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:51pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:48pm:
Doesn’t matter what track we are on now.

We all have to work together to make it the right track.

We can get off the at the station in three years time but for now we must make things happen for the better of our country.



Indeed. Australia has resoundingly said "NO!" to the divisive politics of the coalition.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Sir lastnail on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:55pm
Dutton is well and truly farrrrrrrked.....

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:55pm:
Dutton is well and truly farrrrrrrked.....


Yes, Mr Obvious. We had sort of gathered that.    ;D

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by buzzanddidj on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:11pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now ?





Sad in the long run, for Australia
Adam Bandt seems to be JUST holding on, for the moment - according to Anthony Green

Australia needs an environmental conscience, more than it EVER has.





.
.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Jovial Monk on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:17pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now ?





Sad in the long run, for Australia
Adam Bandt seems to be JUST holding on, for the moment - according to Anthony Green

Australia needs an environmental conscience, more than it EVER has.


The Greens, neoliberals, are not that environmental conscience.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by mothra on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:36pm
It's very, very quiet on here. Few bruised egos maybe?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Daves2017 on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:41pm
I’m here, not bruised.

I would say bashed!

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Karnal on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:42pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


Hi there, Bobby. Where's your Master?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Karnal on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:42pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:41pm:
I’m here, not bruised.

I would say bashed!


Ever get the feeling you've been fisted?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Leroy on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:44pm

Melanias purse wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:42pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:41pm:
I’m here, not bruised.

I would say bashed!


Ever get the feeling you've been fisted?


Nah, don't hang around with your type.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Karnal on May 4th, 2025 at 12:00am

Leroy wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:44pm:

Melanias purse wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:42pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:41pm:
I’m here, not bruised.

I would say bashed!


Ever get the feeling you've been fisted?


Nah, don't hang around with your type.


And yet, you feel the need to whisper sweet nothings in my ear.

Pillow talk, innit.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 4th, 2025 at 6:05am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:36pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


We've got 3 years to change you mind :)



No - seriously - Labor has put us on the wrong track -
they haven't addressed the core problems -
the problems they created which will only get worse.


Seems like you have TDS and ADS if you genuinely believe that...

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Aquarius on May 4th, 2025 at 8:35am

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


Absolutely.  Millions of immigrants welcomed in by Labor will be highly likely to vote for Labor. 

Expect a couple more million shortly ...  >:(


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Aquarius on May 4th, 2025 at 8:43am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now ?



Sad in the long run, for Australia
Adam Bandt seems to be JUST holding on, for the moment - according to Anthony Green

Australia needs an environmental conscience, more than it EVER has.


.


No problem ... we have the Teals now.  In fact, if the Teals were honest, they'd remove that last vestige of blue from their colours and just go green ....


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gordon on May 4th, 2025 at 8:49am
Here's the best thing that happened.


Greens including Adam Bandt at risk of election wipe-out while teals could expand presence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-04/teal-independent-crossbench-holds-greens-risk-wipe-out/105248386

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by aquascoot on May 4th, 2025 at 9:08am
Congratulations to albo .

Like Trump. He recognised the mindset of the voters and tapped into that.

What do people want.

They want a leader who is not an intellectual, who knows how to hold that smiling winning frame, who understands people are basically scared and tired and don't want to think.

There is a good saying politicians need to remember.

Milk for babies
Meat for men.

Dutton got associated with Trump. But Dutton is nothing like Trump
He is probably more like Keating.
Ideas like nuclear power are meat.
Voters want milk.
They are babies who are hungry and feel vulnerable and they would never vibe with an idea like that.


Will albo fix the housing crisis and the deficit.
Not a freak ING  chance.

Doesn't matter.
Like Trump fixing the USA economy is not going to happen.


What leaders need to do is create the right vibe and the right atmosphere.

They must think of the voters as frightened infants who just want to be told a nice fairy tale.

That's their job.
To keep the population asleep

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Gordon on May 4th, 2025 at 9:11am

aquascoot wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 9:08am:
Congratulations to albo .

Like Trump. He recognised the mindset of the voters and tapped into that.


I disagree. Albo/Labor did a massive Bradbury.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2025 at 9:51am

mothra wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:36pm:
It's very, very quiet on here. Few bruised egos maybe?


Only a matter of time before Frannie & Friends start saying the election was rigged.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2025 at 9:55am

In the end it took just two hours to call time on two decades in politics.

Opposition leader Peter Dutton lost the Brisbane seat he has held for 24 years to Labor, one of a long list of Coalition casualties in a landslide victory that delivered the government a second term.

The Dickson result — which came in just hours after polls closed and shortly after the race was called in Labor's favour — makes Mr Dutton the first opposition leader in Australian history to lose their own seat at a federal election.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 4th, 2025 at 10:08am

Aquarius wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 8:35am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


Absolutely.  Millions of immigrants welcomed in by Labor will be highly likely to vote for Labor. 

Expect a couple more million shortly ...  >:(



There will be riots in the streets.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by KangAnon on May 4th, 2025 at 11:38am

Aquarius wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 8:35am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


Absolutely.  Millions of immigrants welcomed in by Labor will be highly likely to vote for Labor. 

Expect a couple more million shortly ...  >:(


Let the conspiracies begin. 

It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with Dutton and the Liberals attempting to emulate a Trump-style campaign, only for Trump to implode the US economy, forcing them to abandon that strategy entirely.

Left scrambling, the Liberals were then reduced to campaigning on their actual election platform, a platform so deeply toxic to the average voter that, without the cover of culture war distractions and gimmicky “DOGE”-style cuts designed to hoodwink the disengaged, they marched straight into one of the most comprehensive federal election defeats in modern Australian history.

No, it was Immigrants...

Cope harder loser hahahaha.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Labor majority government on May 4th, 2025 at 12:47pm
Show who voted where in poll above and when

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by aquascoot on May 4th, 2025 at 1:13pm

Aquarius wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 8:35am:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 10:22pm:
Great speech by Albo.

Let’s be positive and support him going forward.

And hold him and labor to account the moment they stuff something up😡



It won't be pretty in 3 years time with the cost of living skyrocketing
and millions more immigrants flooding our cites -
rents and house prices up too.
People voted for more of the same and Labor will deliver.


Absolutely.  Millions of immigrants welcomed in by Labor will be highly likely to vote for Labor. 

Expect a couple more million shortly ...  >:(



Albo would be derelict in his duties NOT to import millions more.

They probably vote labor and even if they get some lame basic wage service job, a million people earning basic wage being trolley boys or uber drivers or NDIS carers is 40 billion in increased GDP and so albo can say the economy is growing.


Is it good for the country, for our exports, for house prices.
Why would that matter.


Albo is playing the game of getting ticks in boxes.
I applaud his strategy.

He is not playing the game of long term prosperity .
And why would he?
Why would he do things that help the country in 10 or 20 years?
The countries prosperity depends on the efforts of each individual.
Prosperity is not albos responsibility.
Winning elections is


Prosperity is a " personal responsibility"

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Captain Nemo on May 4th, 2025 at 1:28pm

LNP never again wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 12:47pm:
Show who voted where in poll above and when


Not visible to me, perhaps the admins can do it?

I was one of the 10 who got it completely wrong.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 4th, 2025 at 4:12pm
comment from another site:


You can do all the soul searching in the world, but the answer is as simple as the nose on your face.
Why would the majority of the voting population vote for another three years of increasing living costs and decreasing real wages.’? Why would people vote to increase the migrant floodgates and destroy the housing market and virtually deny children the opportunity to build their own home? Why would people vote for continuing the ridiculously expensive and ludicrous push towards net zero when the rest of the planet has embraced Nuclear?
The reason is because the majority of the people base their lives and thought processes on main stream media visual and print. For the entire three years this media has endorsed every stupid and destructive policy of this Government. Not once has this Prime Minister and his party been made accountable for the broken promises, the lies, the deceit- blaming the rest of the world and Donald Trump as the reasons behind collapsed living standards of the Australian People. Like sheep, and as during the Covid Hoax, the people have swallowed every morsel of the bullshilt coming out from the media.
Yesterday’s election was no surprise …baa…baa…baa…

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by John Smith on May 4th, 2025 at 5:11pm

Aquarius wrote on May 4th, 2025 at 8:43am:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2025 at 9:53pm:
Looks like the Greens have zero seats now ?



Sad in the long run, for Australia
Adam Bandt seems to be JUST holding on, for the moment - according to Anthony Green

Australia needs an environmental conscience, more than it EVER has.


.


No problem ... we have the Teals now.  In fact, if the Teals were honest, they'd remove that last vestige of blue from their colours and just go green ....


most of the teals are libs who cared about the environment. If the libs hadn't totally ignored the science and kept pushing coal at the behest of the more extreme right, the teal seats would still be lib seats


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 4th, 2025 at 8:15pm
Nuclear power... one wheel off...

Anti-work-from-home - largely affecting the women's vote... another wheel gone.

Fake economic plans... wheel 3

Dutton himself - wheel 4.


Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by philperth2010 on May 5th, 2025 at 3:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


Sorry to dissapoint you Bobby but Dutton got his arse kicked and lost his seat....The LNP is in a mess of their own making....Australian's have voted against Nuclear and shown Dutton the door???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2025 at 3:23pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


Sorry to dissapoint you Bobby but Dutton got his arse kicked and lost his seat....The LNP is in a mess of their own making....Australian's have voted against Nuclear and shown Dutton the door???

:-? :-? :-?


That was along time ago when I made that claim.


Only 1 in 3 people voted for Albo -
34.5% of the primary vote - yet it's a landslide -
caused by preferential voting -
2 out 3 people think he's no good.

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by philperth2010 on May 5th, 2025 at 3:32pm

Bobby. wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


Sorry to dissapoint you Bobby but Dutton got his arse kicked and lost his seat....The LNP is in a mess of their own making....Australian's have voted against Nuclear and shown Dutton the door???

:-? :-? :-?


That was along time ago when I made that claim.


Only 1 in 3 people voted for Albo -
34.5% of the primary vote - yet it's a landslide -
caused by preferential voting -
2 out 3 people think he's no good.


More Australian's thought Dutton was a dud....Including his own electorate!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: 2025 Election predictions
Post by Bobby. on May 5th, 2025 at 3:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 5th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


Sorry to dissapoint you Bobby but Dutton got his arse kicked and lost his seat....The LNP is in a mess of their own making....Australian's have voted against Nuclear and shown Dutton the door???

:-? :-? :-?


That was along time ago when I made that claim.


Only 1 in 3 people voted for Albo -
34.5% of the primary vote - yet it's a landslide -
caused by preferential voting -
2 out 3 people think he's no good.


More Australian's thought Dutton was a dud....Including his own electorate!!!

::) ::) ::)



That's true but his nuclear ideas aren't dead yet:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-05/nationals-keep-nuclear-coalition-review-election-2025-loss/105253116

Nationals MPs '100 per cent' back nuclear being kept as Coalition dissects loss.

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