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Message started by capitosinora on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am

Title: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by capitosinora on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by athos on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:59am

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


I think the proposal is very good. In that case, something like the Eurasian Commonwealth should be formed.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:19pm
The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:47pm
Yeah - Penny Wongway wanted a 'Palestinian state' - now the Paycheck sheila demands one - it's off the table... Albo has spoken!!

So if you're a Chink and a Leso and a party favourite, it's OK - if you are Afghan and Musso it's no good.... hmmmmm ....

Maybe our 'government' of two parties needs to get itself sorted out in line with what the people want.....

Ukraine, you say?  Well that dastardly Putin will do as he's told, or else!!!  Wet Lettuce Leaves all round!!

No wonder that bloke in comments on some issue said we need a restriction of two terms for any 'politician' - FFS - this 'career' bullshit has ruined our country, and the real people can't get a look in for the 'parties'.... stop voting for them... there's a start.  Wake up Australia!!

Albo strikes Putin:-


Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by capitosinora on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.


Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.
:)

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Bobby. on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:07pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.


Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.
:)



Capitosinora - you're dreaming.

Ukraine would never accept Putin as their King.   ::)

Have you been smoking something?

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:13pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces,

Putin would be excellent as the head of Ukraine's parliament. Policy would need 1 vote : V Putin.  President Xi is the man to rule the White House. Charlie does Westminster.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by freediver on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:32pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


This is not an Australian model. This is the Russian/CCP model - surrender to us or die. It has nothing to do with Australia. The stooges posted the exact same crap a few months ago.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Daves2017 on Jul 6th, 2024 at 5:42pm
Look,  Australia has a miin population and completely isolated.

Other than overslves no one on the world stage cares about Australia.

Australia has nothing of value to add to world affairs.

Unless told to by Biden. Perhaps Trump will fix it on his own and won't need " that guy from down Under underwhelming tiny limited help?'

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:25pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:01pm:
Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

Because poms and yanks didn't send 38 cruise missiles every night to hit the suburbs in Australia.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Daves2017 on Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:27pm
Exactly, it's just something Australia watching on YouTube.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by tallowood on Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:31pm
On February 24, 2022 Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that the goal of the “special military operation” was the “demilitarisation and denazification” of Ukraine. Putin called the main goal of the invasion “to protect people in Donbass from genocide.”

Demilitarization includes keeping NATO out of Ukraine but also destroying Ukraine military. While the war is on Ukraine can not become NATO member, and judging by new Ukraine unpopular mobilisation law, Ukraine's manpower is getting badly depleted as well.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 6th, 2024 at 7:14pm
3.5 to 5 million Ukrainians died under Stalin's policy to remove the independent nature of the country. East Europe could enjoy peace under the Kremlin but for some reason it chooses not to.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by capitosinora on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.


Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.
:)



Capitosinora - you're dreaming.

Ukraine would never accept Putin as their King.   ::)

Have you been smoking something?


Well, apart from belittling others, do you have any other argument why you think Ukraine would never accept such a proposal. If Australia accepted being a British protectorate and the British monarch as head of state, despite the practical elimination of Australia's indigenous population, why wouldn't Ukraine do the same?

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by capitosinora on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:43am

freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


This is not an Australian model. This is the Russian/CCP model - surrender to us or die. It has nothing to do with Australia. The stooges posted the exact same crap a few months ago.


So you deny an indisputable fact about the Australian constitution? You don't even know where you live???





Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by athos on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:53am

chimera wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:25pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:01pm:
Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

Because poms and yanks didn't send 38 cruise missiles every night to hit the suburbs in Australia.


There is no need when the aborigines were eliminated, and the rehabilitated convicts became very obedient.
;D

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by athos on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:57am

chimera wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 7:14pm:
3.5 to 5 million Ukrainians died under Stalin's policy to remove the independent nature of the country. East Europe could enjoy peace under the Kremlin but for some reason it chooses not to.


Just wondering how many indigenous Australians were eliminated under British policy???
:)

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by capitosinora on Jul 7th, 2024 at 11:21am

athos wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:59am:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


I think the proposal is very good. In that case, something like the Eurasian Commonwealth should be formed.


That's right if there is a British Commonwealth, why not a Slavic Commonwealth?
Why should Slavs kill each other because someone wanted them to?

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by Frank on Jul 7th, 2024 at 11:55am

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


The Bolsheviks murdered the Russian monarch, like the Jacobins murdered the French monarch 120 years before that, both ushering in reigns of terror for years, decades.
In America, the monarch has been replaced by the constitution and 9 pseodo-princes of the Supreme Court.  There is no unifying symbol left in such republics.

Australia, like Canada, has not had a revolution and bloody ideological convulsions and civil wars that go with revolutions. 

Ukraine had a strong fascist, pro-nazi element when the Germans invaded. It also had a strong Stalinist element. They don't know who they are or who they want to be.




Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:22pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:41am:
If Australia accepted being a British protectorate and the British monarch as head of state, despite the practical elimination of Australia's indigenous population, why wouldn't Ukraine do the same?

Aboriginals didn't form the Australian parliament 100 years ago. Donbas and Crimea are ruled by Ukraine's parliament. The Russian head of state would lead Ukraine's parliamentary army against Russian invasion.


Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:24pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:43am:
So you deny an indisputable fact about the Australian constitution?

The king of Australia obeys the Australian parliament, not the UK parliament.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:29pm

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:53am:
the rehabilitated convicts became very obedient.

Not with Julian Assange. On a free vote, the monarchy got 51%.
The monarch obeys the people. 

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:32pm

athos wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:57am:
Just wondering how many indigenous Australians were eliminated under British policy???

So that's an argument against a British head of state for them.

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:33pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Why should Slavs kill each other because someone wanted them to?

Do you mean the Russian head of state? Good point!

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:54pm

chimera wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Why should Slavs kill each other because someone wanted them to?

Do you mean the Russian head of state? Good point!


Uncle Sam is the only entity fomenting war between Slavs.

Uncle Sam is fomenting conflict and dissension in many global regions.


Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 1:03pm
Ukraine has 2.2mill soldiers, Russia has 3.3m. All of them are named 'Sam' and are uncles.

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 7th, 2024 at 1:21pm
The only thing Chimera believes in is death.

Chimera loves hate and hates love.

Ukraine should surrender and comply with Russian wishes for demilitarization.

The US should remove itself from Ukraine's business.

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 1:58pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Ukraine should surrender and comply with Russian wishes for demilitarization.

Yes this is correct. Iran, Lebanon, Gaza and assorted gunmen of Palestine will surrender and comply with Israel. Beijing will surrender it's expensive military sledge-hammer to Washington.

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jul 7th, 2024 at 2:22pm
A few of these over there waving the peace flag might change a few minds.... 

"OOOOOOOHHHHRRR!"

"Yossarian.. stop moaning!" 

"I'm thinking about what I'll never get to enjoy when the Germans Russians/Ukraines shoot me down on this mission...  OOOOOOOHHHHRRR!  It's my heart murmur - it keeps murmuring 'don't go.... don't go!'"



Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by freediver on Jul 7th, 2024 at 3:00pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Australia's political model for achieving long lasting  peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages ​​permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief  of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.


This is not an Australian model. This is the Russian/CCP model - surrender to us or die. It has nothing to do with Australia. The stooges posted the exact same crap a few months ago.


So you deny an indisputable fact about the Australian constitution? You don't even know where you live???


I am saying that you are full of crap. And the same thing has been posted here before. Where did you copy and paste it from?

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by tallowood on Jul 7th, 2024 at 3:08pm

chimera wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Why should Slavs kill each other because someone wanted them to?

Do you mean the Russian head of state? Good point!



Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 4:09pm
'Euromaidan was a wave of demonstrations and civil unrest in  2013, sparked by President Viktor Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement, instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. Ukraine's parliament had overwhelmingly approved of finalizing the Agreement with the EU, but Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it.'
Tank shells  and missiles also put pressure on Ukrainian apartment housing.

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by tallowood on Jul 7th, 2024 at 5:18pm

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 7th, 2024 at 5:52pm
Victoria Nuland. Elected President 2013. Moved to Ukraine 2014. Nazi Fuhrer 2014-2024. Invaded Russia, Georgia, Philippines and Tibet. Profit : $45 trillion + GST.

Title: Re: Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Post by Daves2017 on Jul 25th, 2024 at 4:53pm
It's hard to stop laughing long enough.

Albo in very serious each way bet Albo mode gave the funniest speech today about solving the crisis.

I honestly don't know if his totally delusion and thinking the people in the middle east actually care what he says or it's just a chance for him to open his mouth and say poo no one is ever going listen too?

I guess with Albo it's a distraction from the cost of living he was elected to solve and has failed.

I like him as a blonde but I believe any chance to be relectected his going have dye his hair this time black and maybe get a earing to make friends with the greens who will control him in a minority government.

Goodbye Albo, goodbye

Title: Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Post by chimera on Jul 25th, 2024 at 7:39pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 10:41am:
If Australia accepted being a British protectorate and the British monarch as head of state why wouldn't Ukraine do the same?

Putin says he will demilitarize Ukraine. He will rule the convict colony like British governors in 1788, being 300 years out of date.


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