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Message started by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm

Title: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)

What a typically deceptive, Bbwiyawnesque ABC  headline!




Raad received no conviction and was discharged conditionally, meaning she needs to display good behaviour for the next 25 months.

During closing arguments, Raad's lawyer Rose Khalilizadeh told the court that at the time of the offending Raad was a "vulnerable woman in a relationship of coercive control" who was "conditioned to not question her husband's decision making".



Isn't EVERY Islamist marriage like that?
Er... yes.


Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:38pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)

What a typically deceptive, Bbwiyawnesque ABC  headline!




Raad received no conviction and was discharged conditionally, meaning she needs to display good behaviour for the next 25 months.

During closing arguments, Raad's lawyer Rose Khalilizadeh told the court that at the time of the offending Raad was a "vulnerable woman in a relationship of coercive control" who was "conditioned to not question her husband's decision making".



Isn't EVERY Islamist marriage like that?
Er... yes.

No, I’ve lived in a number of Muslim households and husband and wives talking things over and reaching consensus was not unknown; however in this case I’d believe that she had no say.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 24th, 2024 at 2:07pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
however in this case I’d believe that she had no say.



Why, what was going to happen to her had she refused to go to Syria?

Would she have been murdered in an honor killing here at home by other muslims?





Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Aquarius on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:17pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1718176240/0#0 date=1718176240]
What a typically deceptive, Bbwiyawnesque ABC  headline!

Raad received no conviction and was discharged conditionally, meaning she needs to display good behaviour for the next 25 months.

During closing arguments, Raad's lawyer Rose Khalilizadeh told the court that at the time of the offending Raad was a "vulnerable woman in a relationship of coercive control" who was "conditioned to not question her husband's decision making".



Isn't EVERY Islamist marriage like that?
Er... yes.

No, I’ve lived in a number of Muslim households and husband and wives talking things over and reaching consensus was not unknown; however in this case I’d believe that she had no say.


That's interesting - and very unusual.  You've lived in a number of muslim households?  Is that Arab or Asian muslims?

I worked for business muslims for 8 years.  You could say I was on a steep learning curve ... 

And I can tell you this, I didn't learn anything good about them.  Most corrupt business I ever worked in.  Probably the only corrupt one.



Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:02pm
I don't understand why it is a crime to enter a combat area where Australia is not directly involved when the alleged perpetrator is a non-combatant.

It looks like a bogus law that couldn't be enforced.

If such a law could be enforced it would imply media personalities, priests, teachers, first responders, and medical personnel could not enter such proscribed areas.

Australia is compelled to pass laws that violate human rights.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Aquarius on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


And so have I. 

Who is attempting anything? I've stated the facts. That's my experience. I could write books about that place.

Does the truth hurt? 


Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:40pm

Aquarius wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


And so have I. 

Who is attempting anything? I've stated the facts. That's my experience. I could write books about that place.

Does the truth hurt? 


Depends on whether it is the truth or not.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by freediver on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:56pm
I have seen Brian Ross interact with Muslims on here. He is afraid to ask them about Islam, beyond giving them safe prompts to trot out the usual propaganda. It's like he went out of his way to get lied to. I wonder if Brian was locked in a room with a Nazi would he come out thinking the Nazi is just a normal person like Brian because they never discussed anything more substantial than what they had for breakfast. Or does he give himself permission to dislike Nazism in a way he does not allow for Islam.

His repeated position on this is entirely vacuous and meaningless.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2024 at 6:44pm

freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
I have seen Brian Ross interact with Muslims on here. He is afraid to ask them about Islam, beyond giving them safe prompts to trot out the usual propaganda. It's like he went out of his way to get lied to. I wonder if Brian was locked in a room with a Nazi would he come out thinking the Nazi is just a normal person like Brian because they never discussed anything more substantial than what they had for breakfast. Or does he give himself permission to dislike Nazism in a way he does not allow for Islam.

His repeated position on this is entirely vacuous and meaningless.


Oh, dearie, dearie me, Freediver you do like to lie, don't you?  I have only interacted with one Muslim to my knowledge here, Gandalf and I have never fed him any "safe prompts".   I have seen you deliberately antagonise people just to make up prompts, rather than honest discussion.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jun 24th, 2024 at 9:15pm

freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
I have seen Brian Ross interact with Muslims on here. He is afraid to ask them about Islam, beyond giving them safe prompts to trot out the usual propaganda. It's like he went out of his way to get lied to. I wonder if Brian was locked in a room with a Nazi wonuld he come out thinking the Nazi is just a normal person like Brian because they never discussed anything more substantial than what they had for breakfast. Or does he give himself permission to dislike Nazism in a way he does not allow for Islam.

His repeated position on this is entirely vacuous and meaningless.



Islam's outlook, value system and aims are totally different to the values, outlook and directions of modern Western secular countries.  Islam is fundamentally incompatible with and opposed to almost every aspect of Western culture. This is not surprising since Islam is where it has always been: a pre-modern outlook and ideology than has not gone through the transformative experiences of Western thought and values in the last 500 years, from Renaissance, Reformation,  Deism, Scepticism, Scientific and idustrial revolution, secularization, liberal democracy, freedoms of speech, conscience, though, enquiry, religion, etc.

Anyone who says that Islam is compatible with Western values and outlook is either totally ignorant or is a bareface liar, most likely both.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by freediver on Jun 24th, 2024 at 9:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
I have seen Brian Ross interact with Muslims on here. He is afraid to ask them about Islam, beyond giving them safe prompts to trot out the usual propaganda. It's like he went out of his way to get lied to. I wonder if Brian was locked in a room with a Nazi would he come out thinking the Nazi is just a normal person like Brian because they never discussed anything more substantial than what they had for breakfast. Or does he give himself permission to dislike Nazism in a way he does not allow for Islam.

His repeated position on this is entirely vacuous and meaningless.


Oh, dearie, dearie me, Freediver you do like to lie, don't you?  I have only interacted with one Muslim to my knowledge here, Gandalf and I have never fed him any "safe prompts".   I have seen you deliberately antagonise people just to make up prompts, rather than honest discussion.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


You were here for all the previous Muslims. You were sprouting the same crap the whole time, while running away from any real issues.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:18pm

freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:56pm:
I have seen Brian Ross interact with Muslims on here. He is afraid to ask them about Islam, beyond giving them safe prompts to trot out the usual propaganda. It's like he went out of his way to get lied to. I wonder if Brian was locked in a room with a Nazi would he come out thinking the Nazi is just a normal person like Brian because they never discussed anything more substantial than what they had for breakfast. Or does he give himself permission to dislike Nazism in a way he does not allow for Islam.

His repeated position on this is entirely vacuous and meaningless.


Oh, dearie, dearie me, Freediver you do like to lie, don't you?  I have only interacted with one Muslim to my knowledge here, Gandalf and I have never fed him any "safe prompts".   I have seen you deliberately antagonise people just to make up prompts, rather than honest discussion.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


You were here for all the previous Muslims. You were sprouting the same crap the whole time, while running away from any real issues.


Really?  Post some examples then, Freediver 'cause I have no memory of them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Bias_2012 on Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)



Not much of a sentence - no conviction and free to go home





Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jun 24th, 2024 at 11:31pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
however in this case I’d believe that she had no say.



Why, what was going to happen to her had she refused to go to Syria?

Would she have been murdered in an honor killing here at home by other muslims?

Quite possible.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Aquarius on Jun 26th, 2024 at 4:15pm

Muhammed Zahab taught mathematics at Al Noori Islamic school in Greenacre.  He had a Masters degree in education so you'd think he would be a responsible person.  But he was just being a good muslim doing what the prophet told him to do.  So it's rather concerning that these radical teachers are educating kids who will possibly end up joining these terrorist groups in the future. 

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:26pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)



Not much of a sentence - no conviction and free to go home


There was no crime.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:33pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 11:31pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
however in this case I’d believe that she had no say.



Why, what was going to happen to her had she refused to go to Syria?

Would she have been murdered in an honor killing here at home by other muslims?

Quite possible.


Well, that's Islam for you - Go over there to assist wiv the killing of the filthy infidels - or we'll kill you here.

Vast majority of 'they just want the same as everyone else' Muslims.

Diversity of choice is Islam's strength, insh'allah.









Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:48pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)



Not much of a sentence - no conviction and free to go home


There was no crime.

Jihad is a crime against humanity, decency.


Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Gnads on Jul 1st, 2024 at 1:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:40pm:

Aquarius wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


And so have I. 

Who is attempting anything? I've stated the facts. That's my experience. I could write books about that place.

Does the truth hurt? 


Depends on whether it is the truth or not.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



So you say ... but the same could be asked of you all the time. tsk tsk tsk.

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jul 1st, 2024 at 7:59pm
Why not submit her to Islamic law?


https://x.com/Salwan_Momika1/status/1807450669986570558

Islam is a toxic cancer in Western societies. On humanity, come to think of t.
It is a toxic cancer in every society. It is shite.
Islam is no improvement on any society. It is a degregation  everywhere.


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Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:45pm

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Gnads on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 8:52am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:45pm:


queefing again Bwyan?

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 1:33pm





Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 1:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

"He was always polite and charming. There was really nothing to object to."' - Hitler's nurse on his final hours


Tsk, tsk  :o :o

Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 2:21pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 5:10pm:
Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced over charges of entering terrorist-controlled region 8-)



Not much of a sentence - no conviction and free to go home


There was no crime.


Actually there was a crime ... she was forbidden by law to assist anyone considered to be a terrorist, or terrorist organization, ISIS was/is considered as such

However, the Judge must have considered that that law didn't apply to her, therefore she received no conviction, after she traveled all the way to Syria to be with her terrorist husband who was a member of a terrorist organization





Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:54pm

Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 1:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

"He was always polite and charming. There was really nothing to object to."' - Hitler's nurse on his final hours


Tsk, tsk  :o :o



Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Frank on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 7:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 1:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I haven't live with any Muslims but I have known numerous ones.  I've served with them, I've studied with them and I've worked with them.  They were all good people and all lived normal lives with me and themselves.  I don't doubt their may be some bad ones but I have yet to encounter any.  Attempts to stereotype them all as bad are stupid and shallow.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

"He was always polite and charming. There was really nothing to object to."' - Hitler's nurse on his final hours


Tsk, tsk  :o :o



Oh, that's a new and relevant contribution from brain dead Bbwiyawn.

How often do you sshitt your bed, Bbwiyawn? Piss?


Title: Re: Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad sentenced
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 8:53pm

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