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Message started by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 12:58pm

Title: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 12:58pm
https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/senate-passes-australias-national-digital-id-5616038


The Digital ID Bill 2023 has passed the Australian Senate with 33 members voting yes and 26 against.

Multiple senators took to social media on March 27 to complain that
the legislation was rushed through the Parliament without debate.


Finance and Government Services Minister Katy Gallagher introduced amendments to the original legislation following a Senate Committee inquiry and consultation.

This will mean private businesses will now be able to apply to join the Australian government’s digital ID system within two years of royal assent.
The bill (pdf) establishes a national digital ID system and creates the framework for a centralised platform for Australians to verify their identity online.

Senators from the centre-right Liberal Party, United Australia Party, and nationalist One Nation opposed the bill, while Labor, Greens, the Jacqui Lambie Network, and former Liberal-turned-independent David Van voted for it.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:00pm
https://dailydeclaration.org.au/2024/03/28/digital-id-bill/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_source_platform=mailpoet&utm_campaign=your-daily-digest-newsletter-total-posts_2


Labor’s Digital ID Bill Forced Through Senate Without Debate


Kurt Mahlburg

28 March 2024

2.9 MINS

The Albanese Government’s Digital ID Bill, which has sparked concerns about government abuse and overreach, was pushed through the senate without debate by a Labor-Greens alliance on Wednesday.

Labor and Greens senators teamed up late Wednesday afternoon to ensure the Albanese Government’s controversial Digital ID Bill was forced through the nation’s House of Review without review.

A vote to debate the legislation tied 33 apiece, preventing senators from asking any questions about the proposal. Subsequently, the Bill itself went to a vote and sailed through parliament with 33 ayes from an alliance of Labor, Greens, Jacqui Lambie Network and independent senators.

The Coalition, One Nation and the United Australia Party’s collective 26 votes were not enough to halt the passage of the Bill, which stands as one of around 90 pieces of legislation to be shoehorned through the senate without discussion under the Albanese Government.

The Bill has enjoyed widespread support from Australia’s political and corporate elites. A fast-tracked inquiry gave Australians just one month to make submissions, and though the report noted that “most individuals who made submissions to the inquiry opposed the bills either fully or in part,” the Senate Economics Legislation Committee recommended it be passed.

One of the Bill’s vocal supporters was former Privacy Commissioner Malcolm Crompton, who just one month ago assured Australians that the senate would give the legislation proper scrutiny.

“It will be given a hard time in the Senate, which is a good thing because then we should be able to straighten out any of the weaknesses that are in the Bill,” he told A Current Affair in February.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:00pm
It's the mark of the beast followed by more compulsory vaccinations which of course will be rubber stamped by the same crooks that the idiots keep voting in :(

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:00pm
Oh, go0ddie - that'll make things easy for the chinkers....

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:02pm
The traitors pass bills and close down debate.

If they are scared of looking bad in the debate they close it down.

The politicians are traitors to the people.
We need to put them on trial in a people's court
with a gallows waiting outside parliament
and broadcast on live prime time TV in 4K video
with closeups and action slow motion replays.




Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:07pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:00pm:
It's the mark of the beast followed by more compulsory vaccinations which of course
will be rubber stamped by the same crooks that the idiots keep voting in :(


The average person is too busy working to feed their family to see it.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:10pm
Exposed: The Truth Behind Australia's Rushed Digital ID Law -

A Step Towards Totalitarian Control


Pauline Hanson's Please Explain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QclGfIuJ-Ac




Mar 27, 2024
One Nation opposes digital ID.

Labor and its allies have rushed nine laws through the Senate today with no debate or scrutiny.

One of them has horrifying consequences for our future and our freedom: the digital ID law.

This law is designed to control the Australian people.

It’s a step towards the ‘15-minute cities’ already being imposed in the United Kingdom – heavily penalising anyone trying to travel outside their community.

This is a secretive international effort to establish a one-world government with no freedom and no capacity for dissent.

Let’s never forget how easily Australian governments imposed restrictions on us during the pandemic – we couldn’t go anywhere without a digital vaccination certificate.

Our freedom of speech was suppressed by governments and big tech.

Digital ID is the first step towards these restrictions being imposed on us permanently.

A couple of years ago, because I was a Senator, I was not allowed to exchange Australian currency for Euros or British pounds.

UK political leader Nigel Farage had his bank account closed because activists disagreed with his views – he was ‘de-banked’.

All of your digital data will be owned by governments – you’ll have no physical proof you own anything, including your home.

We’ve seen how insecure this data always is – there have been nine breaches of Australians’ personal data in March 2024 alone.

Your new oppressors will tell you digital ID is in your best interests, that it will make things easier, that it will protect you from bad people.

And all it will cost is your freedom and right to privacy.

As Klaus Schwab told us: “You’ll own nothing and be happy.”

We are sheep being led to slaughter.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm
Everything is moving online. Deal with it

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:22pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Everything is moving online. Deal with it


That's not the point dopey -

why shut down the debate and ram the legislation through?




Labor and Greens senators teamed up late Wednesday afternoon to ensure the Albanese Government’s controversial Digital ID Bill was forced through the nation’s House of Review without review.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:32pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Everything is moving online. Deal with it



you wont be so happy when the digital ID allows some future conservative government to see everything you have posted and shuts down your credit card


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:42pm
Senator Malcolm Roberts opposes the Digital ID Bill


Mar 28, 2024

Senator Malcolm Roberts has opposed the Digital ID bill.
Unfortunately this Bill has been rammed through the Senate without a word of debate,
thanks to Labor, Greens and David Van.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfd9AQiXGqA


As much as the Government attempts to downplay the importance of introducing a single central digital identifier for all Australians, the truth is that this legislation is the most significant I've encountered during my time in the Senate.

It's the glue that holds together the digital control agenda by which every Australian will be controlled, corralled, exploited and then gagged when they speak or act in opposition.

The government knows Digital ID will be compulsory by the device of preventing access to government services, banking services, air travel and major purchases for any Australian who does not have a Digital ID.

The Digital ID will, in effect, create a live data file of your movements, purchases, accounts and associates containing reference to every piece of data being held in the private and government sector as a first step in a wider agenda. Tech giants have been building huge data files on every Australian for years.

Those huge data files that contain every website you visited, every post you made on their social media, everything you have ever bought online.  Keywords scanned from conversations overheard by Siri and Alexa in your home are now unmasked.

Until now, that data was anonymised using a unique identifier rather than name and address, which has always been there as well.  However, tech companies were not allowed to use it or share data with others that included the person's name and address.  Until Now.

Look for the tech giants to ask for your Digital ID as a requirement of using their service. The point of that exercise is to ensure they put the right name on the right data treasure trove.

This is why the Liberal Party have moved amendments to the Digital ID Bill to bring private corporations into this roll out earlier.  All those treasure troves of data worth billions, trillions, that have been accumulated for years illegally, by retailers, tech and data companies - all that unrealised profit just sitting there has been too much of a temptation for the Liberal Nationals to resist and is now joined with Labor in pushing Digital ID.

There will be no escape from the digital ID.

Australians now have a digital version of "papers please" and Australians will never be the same.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Everything is moving online. Deal with it


That's not the point dopey -

why shut down the debate and ram the legislation through?




Labor and Greens senators teamed up late Wednesday afternoon to ensure the Albanese Government’s controversial Digital ID Bill was forced through the nation’s House of Review without review.



They've had the bill for ages goober. At some point, you have to stop pretending and just go ahead with it.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:12pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Everything is moving online. Deal with it


That's not the point dopey -

why shut down the debate and ram the legislation through?




Labor and Greens senators teamed up late Wednesday afternoon to ensure the Albanese Government’s controversial Digital ID Bill was forced through the nation’s House of Review without review.



They've had the bill for ages goober. At some point, you have to stop pretending and just go ahead with it.



Don't call me goober -
have some respect you dopey bum and pay some taxes.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:20pm
Goober or Booby is a perfect name for you. Troll would also fit you.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:30pm
The Govt. makes their case here -
but who asked them to do it?
Did anyone here?


https://www.digitalidentity.gov.au/digital-id-bill


Legislation will enable the Commonwealth to partner with states,
territories and the private sector to create a better Digital ID experience for all Australians.

Legislation will:

    strengthen the existing voluntary Digital ID accreditation scheme
    provide legislation authority for the Australian Government's Digital ID System to expand
    strengthen privacy and consumer protections
    strengthen governance for Digital ID.


This legislation will ensure that providers of Digital IDs will be governed by legislation and
designed with privacy in mind so

Australians can trust their information is safe and secure.     ;D


https://www.webberinsurance.com.au/data-breaches-list

The Complete List of Data Breaches In Australia For 2018 – 2024

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:42pm
The Govt looking after your data:


https://www.cyberdaily.au/security/9983-victorian-court-systems-allegedly-breached-by-qilin-ransomware-gang

Victorian court systems allegedly breached by Qilin ransomware gang

Victoria’s courts have been hit by a cyber attack allegedly at the hands of Russia-based hackers.
user icon Daniel Croft • Thu, 04 Jan 2024 • Security

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In a statement released by Court Services Australia, the attack occurred just before Christmas on 8 December and resulted in unauthorised users gaining access to recordings of hearings that occurred over a seven-week period, from 1 November to 21 December 2023.

“On Thursday, 21 December 2023, Court Services Victoria (CSV) was alerted to a cyber security incident impacting Victoria’s courts and tribunals,” wrote Louise Anderson, chief executive officer of Court Services Victoria.

“The cyber incident led to unauthorised access leading to the disruption of the audio-visual in-court technology network, impacting video recordings, audio recordings and transcription services.”

The accessed hearings include those in the Supreme Court, County Court, practice court, Coroners Court, the Court of Appeal’s criminal division, one hearing in the Children’s Court and regional hearings.

“We understand this will be unsettling for those who have been part of a hearing. We recognise and apologise for the distress that this may cause people.”

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:44pm
The Govt looking after your data:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-06/aboriginal-family-support-services-sa-government-data-breach/103196460

Aboriginal child protection service contracted by SA government hit by data breach

Posted Wed 6 Dec 2023 at 6:37pm


An Aboriginal community organisation that provides services to children under government protection in South Australia has been hit by a data breach, impacting about a thousand community members.
Key points:

    Aboriginal Family Support Services (AFSS) detected the data breach on November 27
    Personal information, such as payment details and identification documents, may have been compromised
    The child protection department said there was no access to, or any breach of SA government IT systems

The Department for Child Protection said Aboriginal Family Support Services (AFSS), which is contracted by the South Australian government, detected the breach on November 27.

The department said personal information, such as payment details and identification documents, may have been compromised.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:46pm
The Govt looking after your data:

https://www.ndis.gov.au/news/9722-ndia-detects-data-breach


NDIA detects data breach


28 November 2023

The National Disability Insurance Agency (NDIA) has detected a data breach involving the alleged unauthorised disclosure of the personal details of some National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) participants and related parties.

The information that was disclosed involved some details recorded in the NDIA’s system; including:

    Full name
    Date of birth
    Gender
    Address, including postcode


In a small number of cases, the Agency is aware of further details being disclosed.

All impacted individuals will be directly contacted by the NDIA.

An NDIA staff member has been arrested and charged with the alleged unauthorised disclosure of information to two individuals who had been acting as NDIS providers. 

The pair have been barred from delivering supports to NDIS participants, with the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission issuing banning orders against the individuals and two associated provider companies.

One of these individuals has also been arrested and charged in relation to this matter.

The NDIA continues to actively monitor the situation.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:49pm
The Govt looking after your data:


https://www.goulburnpost.com.au/story/8351349/federal-police-caught-up-in-huge-law-firm-data-breach/


Federal police caught up in huge law firm data breach

By Alex Mitchell and Paul Osborne
Updated September 15 2023

Federal police officers have been caught up in a major cyber attack that's exposed a number of government departments.

The Australian Federal Police Association (AFPA) confirmed some members had their data breached in the hack on law firm HWL Ebsworth earlier this year.

The association did not reveal what data had been stolen but reports suggest it includes officer names and email addresses.

Bookstore chain Dymocks also confirmed it had been the subject of a major data breach, in a notice to customers released late on Friday.

More than 1.24 million Dymocks customers have had their names, address, phone, email, birth date and other information leaked and made available on the dark web.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:49pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
They've had the bill for ages. At some point, you have to stop pretending and just go ahead with it.



It still needs full review of the Senate though. Is there no mechanism to ensure that all bills presented to the Senate are reviewed and debated fully? Why do we have a Senate if that is not done?




Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:51pm
The Govt looking after your data:

https://www.sgst.com.au/news/prom-camping-chaos-continues-with-data-breach-say-nationals


THE private details of campers booking at Wilson’s Promontory’s Tidal River campground have had their user details compromised by the State Government’s new website.

The government website states, “Parks Victoria has temporarily paused camping and accommodation bookings for the 2023-24 season as we work with our booking system.”

Parks Victoria campsite booking system which crashed on its first day of operation, remains closed as a result.

The booking system remains unavailable for phone or online bookings.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:52pm
The Govt looking after your data:


https://www.cyberdaily.au/policy/9346-home-affairs-inadvertently-leaks-personal-data-of-50-small-businesses


Home Affairs inadvertently leaks personal data of 50 small businesses

The Department of Home Affairs confirmed overnight that it was responsible for an “inadvertent” release of personal data related to 50 small businesses that took part in a recent cyber security survey.
user icon David Hollingworth • Tue, 25 Jul 2023 • Government



The data was posted to a parliamentary website in response to a question taken on notice during Senate estimates hearings in May and has since been taken down.

Speaking to The Guardian, a Home Affairs spokesperson said that the department was “aware of a potentially unintentional data release”.

“The department will consider its obligations in accordance with the Privacy Act, including contacting impacted individuals.”

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:54pm
The Govt looking after our defence data:


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cyber-hackers-compromise-topsecret-defensive-data-in-historic-breach/video/3d41479281da39f12129070728a6caaa

Russian cyber hackers compromise top-secret defensive data in historic breach

June 17, 2023 - 6:56AM

There are concerns over data obtained by Russian cyber hackers from law firm HWL Ebsworth this week after more than 2.5 million documents were downloaded across multiple overseas jurisdictions.

The data breach is one of the largest in Australia's history and has seen key Defence and Foreign Affairs material compromised including files related to top-secret missile testing sites and sensitive information on Australia's engagement in the Indo-Pacific region.

Crisis talks are underway in Canberra as the government seeks to mitigate further risks.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jasin on Mar 28th, 2024 at 3:20pm
To think they want to get rid of cash and place all the eggs in a non-secure system on cyber-monetary control.
Madness.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm
This digitilisation just causes a whole new set of problems. Hackers will have it for breakfast, especially if they get their hands on quantum computers.

Right now, all over the world they're hoovering up and storing our presently encrypted information, waiting to crack the encryption when the quantum computers come along.

I think this digital Id is just a continuation of Labor's wet dream of social control since Bob Hawke's Australia card. So far, the system is voluntary but you know, they'll say this and that is happening and we need to tighten up. It's China's social credit system by a thousand cuts.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jasin on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:01pm
Good point.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:38pm

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
This digitilisation just causes a whole new set of problems. Hackers will have it for breakfast, especially if they get their hands on quantum computers.

Right now, all over the world they're hoovering up and storing our presently encrypted information, waiting to crack the encryption when the quantum computers come along.

I think this digital Id is just a continuation of Labor's wet dream of social control since Bob Hawke's Australia card. So far, the system is voluntary but you know, they'll say this and that is happening and we need to tighten up. It's China's social credit system by a thousand cuts.



It won't be secure - that's a Govt lie.

Also -
was this part of Labor's election platform?
I don't remember it.
Where is the democracy?

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:57pm
Where is democracy?

Well, it's a lie.

We're just living under 4 year aristocracies.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:04pm

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Where is democracy?

Well, it's a lie.

We're just living under 4 year aristocracies.



3 years actually  - of despotism.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:04pm:

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Where is democracy?

Well, it's a lie.

We're just living under 4 year aristocracies.



3 years actually  - of despotism.


Yes, 3 years.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Everything is moving online. Deal with it


That's not the point dopey -

why shut down the debate and ram the legislation through?




Labor and Greens senators teamed up late Wednesday afternoon to ensure the Albanese Government’s controversial Digital ID Bill was forced through the nation’s House of Review without review.



They've had the bill for ages goober. At some point, you have to stop pretending and just go ahead with it.



Don't call me goober -
have some respect you dopey bum and pay some taxes.


Thats why you're a goober. I'm still working at this time of the evening, and you've been bludging all day, week, month, year, decade

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:32pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
Thats why you're a goober. I'm still working at this time of the evening, and you've been bludging all day, week, month, year, decade



Bullshit - you don't paint houses at night.     ::)

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:35pm
The house painting was years ago, Goober the Troll.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:43pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
The house painting was years ago, Goober the Troll.



That's right - he works at the counter of a petrol station now.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
Thats why you're a goober. I'm still working at this time of the evening, and you've been bludging all day, week, month, year, decade



Bullshit - you don't paint houses at night.     ::)



I thought you didn't like me calling you goober and yet you prove with every post why you are a goober.  :D


By the way dumbarse,  who says you don't paint at night  :D :D

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jasin on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
The house painting was years ago, Goober the Troll.



That's right - he works at the counter of a petrol station now.

It's a better 'sniff' of work for Sniffer Smith.  ;D

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2024 at 8:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:43pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
The house painting was years ago, Goober the Troll.



That's right - he works at the counter of a petrol station now.


Do you say that because that is your job?

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:29pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:
who says you don't paint at night


Graffiti "artists" like you, do indeed like the dark. ;)

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:33pm

lee wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:
who says you don't paint at night


Graffiti "artists" like you, do indeed like the dark. ;)


What are you blabbering about fool? You can't have bobby's village idiot title so stop trying.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:34pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:33pm:
You can't have bobby's village idiot title so stop trying.


I will let him keep you. ;)

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 28th, 2024 at 11:11pm
Not worth worrying about.

We already have several digital IDs out there in the cyberworld.

Banks, VicRoads, My Health, Centrelink, the ADF, Telstra, eBay
and PayPal, My Government etc.

   All accessed using...   um...  digital IDs.      ::)


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 29th, 2024 at 6:00am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 11:11pm:
Not worth worrying about.

We already have several digital IDs out there in the cyberworld.

Banks, VicRoads, My Health, Centrelink, the ADF, Telstra, eBay
and PayPal, My Government etc.

   All accessed using...   um...  digital IDs.      ::)



Did you read all of page 2 of this thread?

The Govt has not looked after people's data -
there have been numerous data breaches.  ::)

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 29th, 2024 at 6:07am
https://thelightaustralia.com/assets/pdf/ISSUE-10-THE-LIGHT-FINAL-VERSION_SCREEN.pdf

National Digital ID
Why Australia must reject it


By STEPHEN REASON

A national digital
ID is the precursor
to introducing
social credit scores,
carbon credit,
vaccine passports
and cashless
central bank digital
currency (CBDC).
It is the crucial
component to
establishing an AI-
surveillance state.
A national digital ID system
will soon be foisted upon all
Australians – if we let it.
It will be unlike existing digital
ID. The technology will be based
on the storage of blockchain-
encrypted biometrics that can be
securely scanned and decoded
upon request. Every Australian
will be required to submit a
combination of their unique
biological aspects (fingerprints,
palm print, iris scan, DNA, face
scan, etc) to a nationwide database.
Once these biometrics have
been gathered, they will comprise
a unique digital ID that can be
routinely accessed for verification
and identification purposes. You
will be instantaneously identifiable
everywhere; geolocated and
tracked; and with all personal data
harvested and analysed – every
aspect of your life, health and
finances will be openly scrutinised
by endless AI-profiling.

A biometric
digital ID will
enable a digital
tyranny. That
is its sole purpose.
The digital ID
concept was
originally formulated
and exported from Davos,
Switzerland. It forms the key
component of the World Economic
Forum’s (WEF) vision for the
‘fourth industrial revolution’
and their stated transhumanistic
objectives. They conspire to
permanently connect humans to
technology to achieve absolute
control of everyone and everything.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 29th, 2024 at 7:16am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 6:07am:
A national digital
ID is the precursor
to introducing
social credit scores,
etc etc etc etc etc
etc etc ....


Hitler must be still alive ... or the Labor party is communicating with his afterlife 4th Reich spirit





Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 29th, 2024 at 8:08am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 11:11pm:
Not worth worrying about.

We already have several digital IDs out there in the cyberworld.

Banks, VicRoads, My Health, Centrelink, the ADF, Telstra, eBay
and PayPal, My Government etc.

   All accessed using...   um...  digital IDs.      ::)


It's what they do with your information. For example: if you fail to vote and don't pay the fine on time, they threaten to suspend your drivers license - it's computer generated

If for some reason you can't pay the fine, they then suspend your license, but what that amounts to, is the gross misuse of your drivers license information

"When the people fear the Government, there is tyranny ................ "





Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 29th, 2024 at 9:58am

lee wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 9:33pm:
You can't have bobby's village idiot title so stop trying.


I will let him keep you. ;)


Still trying for goobers title I see

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:45pm
Digital ID  :

https://twitter.com/AllBiteNoBark88/status/1773498807671746831?s=20

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:48pm

Culleton’s FOI request regarding the termination of the Great Seal of the Commonwealth


On 22 July 2021, Former Senator Rod Culleton wrote to the Attorney-General's Department
to request access to information regarding the Great Seal of the Commonwealth of Australia & its Termination.


https://rumble.com/vnmqvv-culletons-foi-request-regarding-the-termination-of-the-great-seal-of-the-co.html?fbclid=IwAR3VVtRewjJtC8PxkkOktzzbvNlSQlgLA7juClZRJz6OSsk3V8bu68mvk5Y

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 7:42am
Here's a nice read about it:

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fs1405_ems_506b1f5d-5802-4f49-ae42-6ce36b26f34f%22

THE SENATE

DIGITAL ID (TRANSITIONAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL PROVISIONS) BILL 2023

OUTLINE

1.              The Digital ID (Transitional and Consequential Provisions) Bill 2023 ( Bill ) will deal with matters arising from the enactment of the Digital ID Bill 2023 ( principal Bill ) as the Digital ID Act 2023 ( principal Act ). The principal Bill will:

a.        Legislate and strengthen a voluntary Accreditation Scheme for digital ID service providers that wish to demonstrate compliance with best practice privacy, security, proofing and authentication standards.

b.       Legislate and enable the expansion of an Australian Government Digital ID System ( AGDIS ) for use by the Commonwealth, state and territory governments and eventually, the private sector. The use of AGDIS and participation of accredited service providers will be phased.

c.        Embed strong privacy and consumer safeguards, in addition to the Privacy Act 1988 to ensure people are protected.

d.       Establish governance arrangements including the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission as the Digital ID Regulator and an expanded role for the Information Commissioner as Privacy Regulator.


FINANCIAL IMPACT

4.       The analysis in the regulatory impact statement number 1801 for the principal Bill applies to the compliance measures in this Bill.
The regulatory costs of this option are estimated to be $1.5 billion per year,
however these are offset by benefits across the whole of economy, estimated to be up to $3.3 billion per annum.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 7:54am
What I don't understand is where does the Govt get their ideas from for all their legislation?

I mean - who asked for a Digital ID?
was it a member of the public? -
was it big business? -
was it just a brain fart from some public servant? -
was it the United Nations?

The same could be said for mass immigration - whose idea was that?


If we knew who asked for it maybe we'd understand the motives behind it?



Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Mar 30th, 2024 at 8:16am

Quote:
I mean - who asked for a Digital ID?


The market. It's much easier than carrying around a birth certificate,  driver's licence and passport.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Carl D on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:16am

Quote:
c.        Embed strong privacy and consumer safeguards, in addition to the Privacy Act 1988 to ensure people are protected.


Is this going to be anything like the "protection" our governments told us would be given to the elderly and other vulnerable people when our borders opened and they let Covid rip?

They lied... and I'm pretty sure they're also lying with this.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:33am
Digital ID is nothing more than the government gaining ever more control of your lives. It is giving itself more capacity to know everything about you, control your life, harvest you, and shut you down in various ways when it deems fit- all at its fingertips.

It's nothing less than fascism. It reminds me of movies like X-115, Brazil, 1984, Total Recall.

"We're here to help you".......Don't believe it.

Ja, ja digital Id, please!




Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:35am

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:33am:
Digital ID is nothing more than the government gaining ever more control of your lives. It is giving itself more capacity to know everything about you, control your life, harvest you, and shut you down in various ways when it deems fit- all at its fingertips.

It's nothing less than fascism. It reminds me of movies like X-115, Brazil, 1984, Total Recall.

"We're here to help you".......Don't believe it.

Ja, ja digital Id, please!




it's explained here:

https://rumble.com/v1p5w54-cbdc-central-bank-digital-currency-equals-slavery.html


Short informative documentary into how CBDC will turn us into slaves.

Digital ID + CBDC + Social Credit System = Digital Slavery.

Just look at China now.

Other videos:

Stanford Computer Scientist and 25 year Silicon Valley Industry Tech veteran, Aman Jabbi, gives a grave warning for the Digital Surveillance State that is being built right now. His in-depth presentation on the dire situation facing humanity

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:51am
You just have to laugh when our politicians and media carry on about the Chinese social credit system and beat their chests and say thank God we're a democracy. Err, no, governments in the "free world" are doing exactly the same thing- mass surveillance, the stamping out of free thought, free speech and criticism. Our so-called "democracy" is  China with the thinnest disguise.

But who's to blame? You, me and every other clown who lets this pass.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:54am

More here:

https://www.facebook.com/knowyourrightsgroup/videos/1444631123138392/


Huge Digital ID and cashless update, Easter blitz and more testimonials.


On tonight’s video we addressed the Digital ID Act that was fast-tracked through Parliament this week
and what people can do about it.
We also discussed how this relates to the cashless push which could actually become a reality as early as next week!
We also mentioned the Easter blitz that is occurring in most States around the country and how people can protect themselves against the blatant revenue raising.
We reminded everyone about the KYR, ASF and BSR 25% off Easter promotions that the 3 groups are currently running this weekend as well.
And, finally, we finished off by going through the latest testimonials and some more great memes, to really get people thinking about what is going on at the moment.
As always, we covered some very powerful and very timely information so please be sure to share this around as far and as wide as possible.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:59am

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:51am:
You just have to laugh when our politicians and media carry on about the Chinese social credit system and beat their chests and say thank God we're a democracy. Err, no, governments in the "free world" are doing exactly the same thing- mass surveillance, the stamping out of free thought, free speech and criticism. Our so-called "democracy" is  China with the thinnest disguise.

But who's to blame? You, me and every other clown who lets this pass.



Armaguard is going bankrupt -
we could lose cash as soon as next week.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-28/armaguard-rejects-funding-deal-cash-transport-future-banks-coles/103643674


Armaguard rejects $26 million lifeline to avoid insolvency as Coles ends pause on cash deliveries
By business reporters Kate Ainsworth and Nassim Khadem
Posted Thu 28 Mar 2024


    In short: Armaguard has rejected a lifeline deal worth $26 million to prevent it from becoming insolvent.
    It comes after Coles temporarily paused its use of the company over the Easter long weekend, but has since resumed using its services.
    What's next? The cash transportation company says it is working with its customers and is "confident" about its long-term sustainability.

Armaguard has rejected a $26 million lifeline offered by some of Australia's biggest companies to keep the cash transport company afloat.

The company, which is controlled by trucking magnate Lindsay Fox, had been given until the end of the day to either accept or reject a financial lifeline to avert insolvency, and to keep cash flowing to major businesses.

Major banks, supermarkets, Australia Post and retailer Wesfarmers proposed the $26 million rescue package last week to prevent Armaguard's possible collapse.

But the monopoly cash transporter refused to open its books — one of the conditions of the proposed package — and rejected the lifeline deal on Thursday, confirming it would instead work on its own financial solution.

"Armaguard confirms it is working constructively with all its customers, including its retail customers, banks and other key stakeholders regarding both short-term and long-term financial solutions for the industry to remain sustainable," Mick Cronin, Armaguard Group's chief executive said in a statement.

"Armaguard continues to operate its full suite of services and is confident that over the coming months, it will get the business onto a long-term sustainable footing with appropriate support from the industry."

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:18am
It's explained here:

https://rumble.com/v1p5w54-cbdc-central-bank-digital-currency-equals-slavery.html


They want to control where you buy stuff -
how far from home and what you buy and when you buy it
so they can control you in the next lockdowns.


Even the banks have stopped having money over the counters
you have to use an ATM -
but there won't be any cash with Armaguard down -
so no ATMs - no cash - we're already digital by stealth.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 30th, 2024 at 1:21pm
Lol, the banks keep reducing the maximum amount you can withdraw from an ATM at time.

They're slowly turning the tap off- on your own money.

The banks work for and spy for the government.

We live in a pretend democracy.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 1:30pm

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Lol, the banks keep reducing the maximum amount you can withdraw from an ATM at time. Once it was $2000 now it's down to $400.

They're slowly turning the tap off- on your own money.

The banks now work for and spy for the government.

We live in a pretend democracy.



We sure do.
Govts. go to elections without a list of all the contentious legislation they want to pass.
When the debate gets too hot in parliament they shut it down and ram the legislation through.
In the case of digital ID  - Labor and Libbos agreed behind closed doors to pass it
even though they know their employers - the people - don't want it.
I call them traitors and I would say that to any of their faces if I ever met one -
and I'd tell them why.

We live in an autocratic one party state with 2 branches: Labor and Liberal.
The voting preference system keeps either one of them in power
so they are not about to change that either.
It's a job for the boys in their club - and you ain't in it.




Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:02pm
It was passed:




Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 9:39pm

The Greens are traitors and so is Jackie Lambie.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:14pm
The horror stories will start, and the government will go into cover-its-arse mode. We'll see a littered trail of broken lives from Robodebt to Digital ID.

When will people wake up to these psychopathic fascists?


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:22pm

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:14pm:
The horror stories will start, and the government will go into cover-its-arse mode.
We'll see a littered trail of broken lives from Robodebt to Digital ID.

When will people wake up to these psychopathic fascists?



get ready for your:
iris scan,
palm prints,
finger prints,
video for voice and face recognition.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Polyphemus on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:22pm:

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:14pm:
The horror stories will start, and the government will go into cover-its-arse mode.
We'll see a littered trail of broken lives from Robodebt to Digital ID.

When will people wake up to these psychopathic fascists?



get ready for your:
iris scan,
palm prints,
finger prints,
video for voice and face recognition.


All par for the course for this fascist social experiment.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:43pm

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:22pm:

Polyphemus wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:14pm:
The horror stories will start, and the government will go into cover-its-arse mode.
We'll see a littered trail of broken lives from Robodebt to Digital ID.

When will people wake up to these psychopathic fascists?



get ready for your:
iris scan,
palm prints,
finger prints,
video for voice and face recognition.


All par for the course for this fascist social experiment.



By law in Australia if you buy or sell property you have to go through PEXA and
give them a video for a voice and face print while reading a code word using your mobile phone.
It's already here.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jasin on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:03pm
Australians have just been given an Authoritarian slap in the face and there is nothing that can be done about it. Will be done about it.

Afterall. Australians are too dumb and lazy and will be done about it after a few weeks of just whinging and whining - as 'usual'.  ;) ;D

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:15pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
Australians have just been given an Authoritarian slap in the face and there is nothing that can be done about it. Will be done about it.

Afterall. Australians are too dumb and lazy and will be done about it after a few weeks of just whinging and whining - as 'usual'.  ;) ;D



My conveyancer likes it as no one has to come to his office anymore
if they have a mobile phone but
of course he charges even more than he used to.   ::)


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Jasin on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:17pm
Australia has just been 'scammed'.

Much like countries who have had their economies scammed by things like Pyramid schemes, etc.

Australians will be 'cash-less' before they know it.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Gnads on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:16am
This sums up the how this Federal Labor Party operates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74rJSsSCfI&ab_channel=PaulineHanson%27sPleaseExplain

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:28am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:15pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
Australians have just been given an Authoritarian slap in the face and there is nothing that can be done about it. Will be done about it.

Afterall. Australians are too dumb and lazy and will be done about it after a few weeks of just whinging and whining - as 'usual'.  ;) ;D



My conveyancer likes it as no one has to come to his office anymore
if they have a mobile phone but
of course he charges even more than he used to.   ::)



Moist conveyancing already needs identification verification. You've shown why lawyers offices can't be trusted with customers details you dumbarse.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:32am

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:15pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
Australians have just been given an Authoritarian slap in the face and there is nothing that can be done about it. Will be done about it.

Afterall. Australians are too dumb and lazy and will be done about it after a few weeks of just whinging and whining - as 'usual'.  ;) ;D



My conveyancer likes it as no one has to come to his office anymore
if they have a mobile phone but
of course he charges even more than he used to.   ::)



Moist conveyancing already needs identification verification. You've shown why lawyers offices can't be trusted with customers details you dumbarse.




Microsoft has rubbish security:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712359767/0#0

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:34am


Bob Hawke's "Australia Card" was a proposal for a national
identification card
for Australian citizens and resident foreigners.
The proposal was made in 1985, and abandoned in 1987.

In the House of Representatives, ALP backbencher Lewis Kent
(Serbian-born Lajco Kapolnai) said the card was un-Australian
and that it would be more appropriate to call it a "Hitlercard or Stalincard". 

Interestingly, it was alleged that Kent was "an agent of a foreign
power" and had ties to the UDBA (Uprava državne bezbednosti),
the Yugoslavian secret police.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by AusGeoff on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:59am
From a legal site...


Quote:
"PEXA simplifies the settlement process by digitalising key components, eliminating the need for physical document exchanges and reducing the likelihood of delays caused by manual handling. Moreover, PEXA enhances the security of transactions, safeguarding sensitive information and funds through robust digital protocols".


And we all know just how "secure" and "robust" digital protocols
have been recently in Australia—with the massive hacking and
thefts of millions of individuals' personal data and prime identifiers
—don't we...  not!   (Much laughter ensues.)

EG:  And this partial listing is from last year (2023) alone.

•  myGov
•  Australian Federal Police

•  Alfred Health, Melbourne
•  University of Wollongong

•  ASIC
•  American Express

•  The Department for Child Protection Aboriginal Family Support Services
•  Australian Signals Directorate

•  Royal Women’s Hospital, Parkville
•  Department of Veterans’ Affairs

•  Medibank
•  Optus

•  PayPal
•  Tasmanian Government, GoAnywhere

PEXA is simply yet another weak link in the chain of the average
Aussie's security of personal, on-line data in the thousands of
vulnerable servers across the country. 

     How long will it be before PEXA is hacked?    >:(


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Apr 6th, 2024 at 10:08am
We only need to look at the digitising of service records and the 'loss' of 172 sets to see how good this one will be.

I'm afraid there is in existence a small letter.......

Der Auschtraliakarte ...
Papers_001.jpg (42 KB | 4 )

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by John Smith on Apr 6th, 2024 at 12:22pm

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:59am:
     How long will it be before PEXA is hacked?    Angry



I think you're missing the point. Who is more likely to get hacked? 'Pexa', or some lawyers office, phone company, electricity company, gas company, insurance firm, pharmacy?

The proposed digital id is about limiting the number of companies with your details.

The point of expanding on the 'mygov' id is not to make it bullet proof, it is to make it more secure than the alternatives.

The battle between hackers and security is never ending. What is secure today, will be a virtual open door by this time next year. The govt is much more willing and able to keep up on the security front than coporations trying to maximise profits.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Apr 6th, 2024 at 2:13pm

AusGeoff wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:34am:
Bob Hawke's "Australia Card" was a proposal for a national
identification card
for Australian citizens and resident foreigners.
The proposal was made in 1985, and abandoned in 1987.

In the House of Representatives, ALP backbencher Lewis Kent
(Serbian-born Lajco Kapolnai) said the card was un-Australian
and that it would be more appropriate to call it a "Hitlercard or Stalincard". 

Interestingly, it was alleged that Kent was "an agent of a foreign
power" and had ties to the UDBA (Uprava državne bezbednosti),
the Yugoslavian secret police.



They brought it back now but 10 times as bad
and they rammed it through the Senate by shutting down debate.

That's what passes for a democracy in Australia.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:33pm

Comment from another site:


Quote:
Anyone else locked out of Bupa for NOT having digital ID?

Someone in Maria Zees channel reported this.

“I realised today that BUPA is making mandatory to set up digital ID in order to access the user’s online BUPA account.

I got locked out my online account, when I called to ask why, I was told I had to have digital ID, apparently they introduced this late last year. I cancelled my BUPA membership few minutes ago.

If anyone has private health insurance with BUPA, please check if you can access your account online”

👆This is how they get away with continuously telling you Digital ID won’t be mandatory (from the government).

They’ll impose stricter “privacy” requirements for private businesses, and impose it through corporates, just like they imposed on businesses during COVID for the death shots.



Remember the Govt. said Digital ID would not be compulsory?
Another lie.  ::)

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:37pm
It's true:

https://www.bupa.com.au/help/mybupa/troubleshooting/how-to-register-for-mybupa


Important message to Bupa Members

We’ve changed the way you access myBupa. If you have a myBupa account and haven't signed in since 29 August 2023 you need to re-register. Old logins won't work.

Setting up your Bupa digital identity is part of the registration process.


But you don't need to make a video of yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuGiptCOz0

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:57pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTADjwkTLUM

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 4th, 2024 at 11:45pm

https://cairnsnews.org/2024/05/03/a-triad-of-tyranny-compliments-of-albanese-and-labor/


A Triad of Tyranny compliments of Albanese and Labor

By Senator Malcolm Roberts

Three Bills are being rammed through the Senate to create legislation that will transform the UN-WEF plans for surveillance and control into a dystopian reality in Australia.

The first is the Identity Verification Services Bill 2023, which is designed to permit the use of biometric data to locate and track citizens and normalise it. The second, the Digital Identity Bill 2023, will ensure Australians have no choice but to succumb to setting up a digital ID. The third is the Misinformation and Disinformation Bill 2023. This is the censorship tool to make sure both the media and social media carries government sanctioned opinions only. The government in power is exempted and free to be the Ministry of Truth, spreading misinformation or disinformation. Remember how well that went during the COVID response?

The Driver’s Licence database is being upgraded to become the repository of your master identification record, which is already being used to establish your identity with a paper check and now with a facial scan.

I implored the Senate to vote against and to reject this Bill. This is the first of three Bills necessary to turn Australia into the world’s first World Economic Forum digital prison.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxgUTeo7Sio

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Daves2017 on May 5th, 2024 at 8:29pm
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Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 2:55pm
https://wentworthreport.com/2024/05/17/the-australian-uniparty/


17 May 2024

The Australian Uniparty. By Senator Ralph Babet (United Australia Party).

    The truth is that our two-party system provides only the illusion of choice.

    The Liberal and Labor parties are, at the moment, pretty much the same … especially when it comes to their intention to sell Australians out to globalist interests.

Example 1:

    The Labor government is pushing hard with its plans for Digital ID to be rolled out across Australia.

    Many people are rightly horrified by the idea. A Digital ID will make every person in this country hackable and trackable. .. It’s the first necessary step in creating a system whereby every citizen could be given a social credit score that will determine their ability to buy and sell. In other words, their ability to take part in the free market.

    A Digital ID is dangerous and must be opposed. But who will oppose it?

    What most people don’t realise is that the sinister Digital ID policy being pushed by Labor is actually a Liberal Party idea. … It was initiated by the Coalition government back in 2015. They promoted the idea as a ‘safe, secure, and convenient way to prove who you are’. And then, in 2021, the Liberal Party circulated a draft bill with the Orwellian title … Trusted Digital Identity Bill. …

    The Liberals didn’t get a chance to introduce their ‘trusted’ bill into Parliament before losing the 2022 election, but their election commitments that year included, and I quote, ‘expansion of the Digital Identity system’.

    Now, of course, the Liberal Party claims to oppose Labor’s Digital ID. But they don’t oppose the pernicious concept, only Labor’s version.

    The Liberal Party’s website promises that they will, and I quote, ‘continue to invest in the expansion of the Digital Identity system’. …


Example 2:

    Did you know it was the Liberal Party who were the original architects of the free speech curtailing Misinformation and Disinformation Bill? I kid you not.

    Before the last election, the Morrison government announced that it would introduce legislation, and I quote, ‘to combat harmful disinformation and misinformation online’. …

    Of course, the Liberals pretend to call Labor’s almost identical bill ‘Orwellian’.

    But that’s only because they are in opposition. It’s the illusion of choice. As soon as the Liberals are back in office, they will resume their globalist obligations.

    Don’t take my word for it. Listen to them. Read it from their website: “…stronger laws to combat harmful disinformation and misinformation online by giving the media regulator stronger information-gathering and enforcement powers.”

    And at the weekend, Liberal Leader Peter Dutton said he would support Labor’s Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. …

Example 3:

    The office of the e-Safety Commissioner was created by the Liberal Party (Coalition) and the current e-Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, was appointed by the Liberal Party.

Conclusion:

    Our two-party system of government is really one party with voters given only the choice of faces.

Same bureaucracy, no matter who you vote for.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 3:13pm
https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/breaking-digital-id-passed-in-australian


Australian government databases are also vulnerable to data breaches.
A spreadsheet released under Freedom of Information details 257 data breaches
of federal government departments and agencies during the past four years,
some of which had been concealed from the public.
The majority (160) occurred due to human error,
with a further 70 being attributed to malicious or criminal attacks and some to system failure.

Will the expanded Digital ID framework be impenetrable to human error, malicious attacks and system failure? Hopefully.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
https://wentworthreport.com/2024/05/17/the-australian-uniparty/


17 May 2024

The Australian Uniparty. By Senator Ralph Babet (United Australia Party).

    The truth is that our two-party system provides only the illusion of choice.

    The Liberal and Labor parties are, at the moment, pretty much the same … especially when it comes to their intention to sell Australians out to globalist interests.

Example 1:

    The Labor government is pushing hard with its plans for Digital ID to be rolled out across Australia.

    Many people are rightly horrified by the idea. A Digital ID will make every person in this country hackable and trackable. .. It’s the first necessary step in creating a system whereby every citizen could be given a social credit score that will determine their ability to buy and sell. In other words, their ability to take part in the free market.

    A Digital ID is dangerous and must be opposed. But who will oppose it?

    What most people don’t realise is that the sinister Digital ID policy being pushed by Labor is actually a Liberal Party idea. … It was initiated by the Coalition government back in 2015. They promoted the idea as a ‘safe, secure, and convenient way to prove who you are’. And then, in 2021, the Liberal Party circulated a draft bill with the Orwellian title … Trusted Digital Identity Bill. …

    The Liberals didn’t get a chance to introduce their ‘trusted’ bill into Parliament before losing the 2022 election, but their election commitments that year included, and I quote, ‘expansion of the Digital Identity system’.

    Now, of course, the Liberal Party claims to oppose Labor’s Digital ID. But they don’t oppose the pernicious concept, only Labor’s version.

    The Liberal Party’s website promises that they will, and I quote, ‘continue to invest in the expansion of the Digital Identity system’. …


Example 2:

    Did you know it was the Liberal Party who were the original architects of the free speech curtailing Misinformation and Disinformation Bill? I kid you not.

    Before the last election, the Morrison government announced that it would introduce legislation, and I quote, ‘to combat harmful disinformation and misinformation online’. …

    Of course, the Liberals pretend to call Labor’s almost identical bill ‘Orwellian’.

    But that’s only because they are in opposition. It’s the illusion of choice. As soon as the Liberals are back in office, they will resume their globalist obligations.

    Don’t take my word for it. Listen to them. Read it from their website: “…stronger laws to combat harmful disinformation and misinformation online by giving the media regulator stronger information-gathering and enforcement powers.”

    And at the weekend, Liberal Leader Peter Dutton said he would support Labor’s Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. …

Example 3:

    The office of the e-Safety Commissioner was created by the Liberal Party (Coalition) and the current e-Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, was appointed by the Liberal Party.

Conclusion:

    Our two-party system of government is really one party with voters given only the choice of faces.

Same bureaucracy, no matter who you vote for.


This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 4:00pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   



I would be great if the Govt. would guarantee that
our personal information could never be hacked.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 4:03pm

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2024 at 9:28pm
Just as an aside -
we already have a sort of Digital ID.

When you buy property:  a house or unit or apartment -
you have to go through PEXA by law -
that includes you using your mobile phone to read out a code word they give you
while on video and that is automatically uploaded to PEXA.
So the Govt has a video of your face and a voice print as well.
You also need to photograph many documents too which are all uploaded.
You don't even get a Title Deed - it's all digital now.
I don't know what happens to the old Title Deed from the previous owner?
None of that was discussed.
If you can't do all that then you have to go to your conveyancer who
puts you on video via their desktop etc to help you do it all.
Will the new Digital ID wipe all that out?
I doubt it.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 1:33pm

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   


I would be great if the Govt. would guarantee that
our personal information could never be hacked.


Interestingly, apparently quantum AI (still being developed)  is promising to deliver unhackable internet.


Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 18th, 2024 at 3:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   


I would be great if the Govt. would guarantee that
our personal information could never be hacked.


Interestingly, apparently quantum AI (still being developed)  is promising to deliver unhackable internet.



That can't work for mass communication.
You have to receive the same photon that was sent.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 4:14pm

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   


I would be great if the Govt. would guarantee that
our personal information could never be hacked.


Interestingly, apparently quantum AI (still being developed)  is promising to deliver unhackable internet.



That can't work for mass communication.
You have to receive the same photon that was sent.


Then I guess we are stuck with governments trying to manage crime in our dog eat dog economy.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 4:15pm

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2024 at 3:38pm:
This is what happens when the system is broken: our dog eat dog economy creates fraud and crime in a desperate battle for survival.


The governing party is faced with having to control this crime...hence the attraction of the Digital ID.   


I would be great if the Govt. would guarantee that
our personal information could never be hacked.


Interestingly, apparently quantum AI (still being developed)  is promising to deliver unhackable internet.



That can't work for mass communication.
You have to receive the same photon that was sent.


Then I guess we are stuck with governments trying to manage crime in our dog eat dog economy.

I'm offering an alternative to the dog-eat-dog economy....

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 18th, 2024 at 4:27pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
Then I guess we are stuck with governments trying to manage crime in our dog eat dog economy.

I'm offering an alternative to the dog-eat-dog economy....



I know for a fact that either in private industry or the Govt. -
if computers have IP or secret information on them they
are never connected to the internet.
They will be connected to a server for backups and connecting to other people
on the same project but that's all.
I don't see how any system on the internet can have 100% security in the long term.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 4:35pm

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:27pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
Then I guess we are stuck with governments trying to manage crime in our dog eat dog economy.

I'm offering an alternative to the dog-eat-dog economy....



I know for a fact that either in private industry or the Govt. -
if computers have IP or secret information on them they
are never connected to the internet.
They will be connected to a server for backups and connecting to other people
on the same project but that's all.
I don't see how any system on the internet can have 100% security in the long term.


That's why I'm offering an alternative your your competition-based dog eat dog/neoliberal, debt-based economy (see the MMT thread). 

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 18th, 2024 at 4:46pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:27pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
Then I guess we are stuck with governments trying to manage crime in our dog eat dog economy.

I'm offering an alternative to the dog-eat-dog economy....



I know for a fact that either in private industry or the Govt. -
if computers have IP or secret information on them they
are never connected to the internet.
They will be connected to a server for backups and connecting to other people
on the same project but that's all.
I don't see how any system on the internet can have 100% security in the long term.


That's why I'm offering an alternative your your competition-based dog eat dog/neoliberal, debt-based economy (see the MMT thread). 



Really?

which reply number?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/900#900

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 5:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:30pm:
The Govt. makes their case here -
but who asked them to do it?
Did anyone here?


People don't like crime and fraud, whether in the private (blue or white collar) or public sector.



Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 18th, 2024 at 5:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:30pm:
The Govt. makes their case here -
but who asked them to do it?
Did anyone here?


People don't like crime and fraud, whether in the private (blue or white collar) or public sector.



read my Reply #92.

The Govt doesn't put it's own secret info on the internet -
not even private industry does.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 18th, 2024 at 5:56pm

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 5:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2024 at 2:30pm:
The Govt. makes their case here -
but who asked them to do it?
Did anyone here?


People don't like crime and fraud, whether in the private (blue or white collar) or public sector.



read my Reply #92.

The Govt doesn't put it's own secret info on the internet -
not even private industry does.


#92?

The fraud engaged in by the big four auditing companies was certainly exposed for all to see; they used government contracts to feather their own nests, rather than benefit the public. 

And underpayment of wages by companies,  etc, fraud.



Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 18th, 2024 at 6:03pm
Story now hidden on the internet but I remember it.

Back when Windows 95 came out in 1995 -
the NSA visited Bill Gates with a court order on the grounds of National Security-
to demand that he hand over the source code of Win95.
It also prevented him or any of his Microsoft employees from telling anyone else about it.
Bill Gates was very upset as it was his intellectual property and
the ultimate security of all Win95 users depended upon keeping the source code secret.
He either had to comply or he would be sent to jail
and they would take it anyway  - he complied.
That same order is still valid to this day so
the NSA has all the source code since 1995 - that's right -
WinXP, Win7, Win10, Win11 - all of it.

We can only speculate as to how the NSA would use that information but
it's possible that if they wanted to hack any computer they could send someone a fake
Windows update that would open their computer ports to hacking by the NSA.

They could also look for weakness in the source code to be able to exploit it.
Therefore if you have a windows computer the NSA can read all of your files remotely
without you ever knowing about
- no matter how good your firewall is.
They may have passed that information to actors in other countries -
we'll never know.

That is why computers with secret information are never connected to the internet
and why especially Windows computers are not secure.



Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by thegreatdivide on May 19th, 2024 at 12:27pm

Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 6:03pm:
Story now hidden on the internet but I remember it.

Back when Windows 95 came out in 1995 -
the NSA visited Bill Gates with a court order on the grounds of National Security-


That's right. Given individuals commit fraud and crime with national security implications, governments need to take the necessary steps to manage/reduce fraud and crime.

How they do it is another question. 

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 19th, 2024 at 3:11pm
I think we all have aright to be paranoid given the appalling record of
cyber hacking – even from Govt. places:
https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/breaking-digital-id-passed-in-australian

And private industry:
Australia has been roiled by several major hacks in recent years,
including on Optus, Medibank, Latitude Financial, law firm HWL Ebsworth
and stevedore DP World and now MediSecure.

Optus alone had over 10 million records stolen.
10 million customers hacked including me.
As we speak – we all have our names, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses &
driver's license numbers out there in the hands of hackers,
all over the world just waiting to assume our identity and rip us off.

Title: Re: Debate shut down - Digital ID
Post by Bobby. on May 19th, 2024 at 5:18pm
Cyber crime costing the Australian economy $30 billion a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilbtQ6436ME

The war against data hackers is ramping up.
In the wake of the Optus and Medibank scandals –
Canberra is looking at ways to defend our cyber borders by
throwing up new internet blocks and making it illegal to pay data ransoms.

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