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Title: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:28pm
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/it-won-t-be-china-india-any-more-universities-urged-to-pivot-to-new-student-market-20231221-p5eswp.html
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needs to capitalise on the emerging African market capitalise on the emerging African market emerging African market African market what could possibly go wrong? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by A.I. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:35pm
Why not?
The stupid Africans go to America. We get the clerical ones. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:40pm Jasin wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:35pm:
mate you are absolutely cracked get some meds ffs |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by A.I. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:57pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:40pm:
Well that's explaining it without reason JC Denton. Not my fault White Australians are all Gay and don't breed more students for the Universities here. Or are too stupid n' Redneck Housos to go to Uni anyway. ...and your answer to the problem is? :-? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by John Smith on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:08am
you cretins all herald capitalism but then cry when it works :D :D :D
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:14am
i dont
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:25am JC Denton wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:28pm:
African countries are poor, education quality is low, corruption is everywhere. African students who could afford full Australian fees would come from families of corrupt government officials or businesses who make their wealth from ruthless and corrupt exploitation of other Africans. No honest African family can spare $50-60k p.a. for 3-4 years to send a child to an Australian university. Most Australian families couldn't. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Belgarion on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:29am
There is nothing wrong with Australian universities attracting students from overseas. The fees they pay help with the running of these institutions and links can be forged that may in the long term lead to useful relations if these students rise to positions of influence in their home counties.
However problems arise when some of these students expect to get an easy ride because of the amount of money they are paying and when some universities go along with it. There was an issue a few years ago when students at, I think, Newcastle University complained about foreign fee paying students getting preferential treatment. As long as all students are given the same opportunities, no local students are disadvantaged and security issues are considered foreign students at our unis should be encouraged. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:32am
theyll find a way
theres gonna be a projected 2.5 billion jungle bunnies this century, if you can get maybe 0.1% of them to migrate to join australia's incredible 'education export' economy doing dodgy RTOs and dodgy training courses (not necessarily just university degrees) that'll be a f_ckload of people look at how many nepalese we have here now, i'd never have thought it possible; nepal isn't much wealthier than a lot of sub saharan africa in real terms the plan often is for everyone in a family or extended family or village to finance one to come over and 'study' then that provides the beach-head for the chain migration process to begin i agree they'll probably never get the volume they got with the subcons just bc ss-africa is cartoonishly poor in comparison (and probably always will be) but it's not implausible they'll try something it's going to be a lot of fun |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:34am Belgarion wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:29am:
what a vacuous f_cking take lmao australia's |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:04am Belgarion wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:29am:
Up to a point, Lord Copper. A small number of bright overseas students, yes. But most students in some courses in NSW and Vic universities, like business, accounting, commerce, nursing, are non-English speaking international students. That is a disaster. Like the bear hunter in the joke, they are not really here for the education. Both sides of politics have screwed higher education rinse the Dawkins reforms under Labor 30 years ago. Elevating colleges of higher education to universities was a huge mistake, various uncapping of student numbers was another, a push for 40% of high school graduates to go to uni was another. Each expansion touted with the Blairite slogan of 'education, education, education' and was accompanied by limited funding, incommensurate with the expansion of uni places. The solution was more and more fee paying international students. Australian higher education policy became an immigration policy. Most third world students cannot afford the fees and living expenses from their own family's resources so they must work in Australia, very often exploited ruthlessly by businesses run by their compatriots. Housing conditions for many are atrocious, again, in the hands of unscrupulous compatriot landlords. So 'international education' has screwed Australian university standards, employment and housing conditions. Most overseas graduated are employed in lower level jobs than their qualification because despite 3-4 years at an Australian university they still do not have the English and socio-cultural skills to be employed at the level of their qualifications. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:17am
you see all those guys in the turbans riding around on mopeds and e-bikes everwhere delivering kfc to people? yeah, a lot of them are supposed to be 'students'
cameron murray on how questionable the education 'export' industry is, and the figures on how much money it generates so often thrown around to justify it: https://www.fresheconomicthinking.com/p/australias-40-billion-of-education just another rort in the ezfka |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by freediver on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:23am
Would you rather drive to KFC?
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:24am freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:23am:
i have never used a delivery service in my life and almost never eat fast food anyway i would rather have less guys in turbans than more kfc |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:35am freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:23am:
It is hardly the point of a higher education policy to have food home delivered. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:36am
to all the education export sector boosters: if it really was just about the education and the receipts from that, why not just offer the courses online. why do these 'students' need to physically be present in australia to study?
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by A.I. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:05pm
Working with Botswanans in the Medical Industry.
Found them very well educated and quality workers, extremely polite and well mannered. Educated in Botswana. Botswana takes pride in its Education and doesn't have the usual 'political' crap to turn them into Americanised N*ig%%gers, etc. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:10pm
lmao how many botswananas are there going to be anywhere theres only like 2 million people in all of botswana
one day i might meet somebody from botswana, but most likely only if i ever go there myself |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by freediver on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 1:11pm Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:35am:
Are you concerned for their grades? JC Denton wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:36am:
Would you use a doctor who got his degree online? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:09pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:36am:
Good point, JC, but I'm not sure how many nurses or doctors you've seen who got their cert IVs online. How about psychiatrists? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by John Smith on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:43pm
Seems they import undesirables as their lecturers too
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:49pm freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 1:11pm:
I know someone who had this misfortune of having a Sudanese male nurse at a hospital who had 3 stabbing goes at using a syringe to get blood out of a vein in his arm. A doctor pushed that nurse aside and did it easily with one go. :-[ |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by John Smith on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:51pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:49pm:
I've had that happen with a white woman goober. Most likely just a trainee |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:57pm
Yes John,
I had the misfortune of having a blood test at my Doctor's surgery once with a medical student taking blood for a blood test out of my arm. My doctor said that this medical student needed practise so would I mind if he did it? He was a young, pimple faced white guy but I trusted him. I said yes - everyone needs practise. Well - he did it - but it hurt and I ended up with an apple sized bruise on my arm for 2 weeks. :-[ when my doctor does it he leaves only a tiny dot that disappears in 2 days. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 5:00pm Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:09pm:
so what about all the ones that dont need to do their degree in actual physical meatspace i.e most of them? commerce students blah blah blah? i did my sh1tty degree completely online, made no difference to absolutely anything it isnt 1975 anymore gramps also aus unis cant set up physical campuses in india either? that not possible? :o :o :o :o suddenly we're not such a globalised and electronically connected world after all when it comes to any opportunity to reduce importing as many browns as possible, it's weird how it always works out like that how many of em would give a sh1t about australia's allegedly amazing universities if there wasnt the opportunity to work on the side and get PR afterwards? you reckon they'd still wanna study at our illustrious institutions if those things weren't on the table? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by John Smith on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 5:39pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:57pm:
And yet you felt like pretending it had something to do with the nurse being Sudanese ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 6:19pm freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 1:11pm:
Grades- absolutely. Doctors - Australian medical education is probably the last bastion of no-compromise. So an Australian trained doctor is good. But there are many more overseas trained doctors who are sub-standard, both here and the UK and the rest of the West. The Australian Nurses Registration Board, for example, does not accept an Australian Bachelor Degree as sufficient evidence of English language competence. In my view no Australian professional body should accept an Australian degree as proof of English proficiency. Everyone who has been near a university knows what a drag overseas students from third world countries are on quality. But filthy lucre goes a wrong way. Codger explains UK situation. Australia is not the same for doctors because we don't have the same open door for Commonwealth citizens, but is the same for everyone else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QSVtUxrofY |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 7:18pm
i have nfi how unis are gonna cope in the coming world of gpt and generative ai, etc, some of that stuff is just getting so spooky good so quickly it makes me wonder if there'll even be a need for human doctors and the like in 20 years time. plagiarism will be everywhere and no one will ever be able to know. makes the constant pleading that we need to import as much critical skilled labor as possible or we're all screwed seem increasingly hollow and tenuous.
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Gordon on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 7:29pm Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 6:19pm:
Unless you're a ......... https://www.sydney.edu.au/study/applying/admission-pathways/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-pathways.html#:~:text=The%20Gadigal%20Program%20is%20our,lower%20minimum%20ATAR%20requirements |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 7:37pm
lmao
far out i wish i was boong |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 7:50pm
I wish you were as well, J.C. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:18pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 5:00pm:
Hard to say, JC. You did your sh1tty online degree, then packed up and moved over there. Any reason why? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:29pm John Smith wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 5:39pm:
I was proving that I'm not racist - any medical student can butcher your arm when trying to take blood. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:57pm Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:18pm:
over where? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:05am JC Denton wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:57pm:
Yes, where? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:08am
im here
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 25th, 2023 at 12:57am JC Denton wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:08am:
Strange. You said you hadn't been back to Aussie Aussie Aussie for years and were glad to get out. Too many snowflakes, remember? One thing about being an Aussie, JC. No matter how far one roams, one still calls Australia home. It doesn't matter how tinted one is, it's just the kind of chaps we are. You pay your respects to the traditional custodians of the land, no? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:30am
it doesn't snow that much here
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by A.I. on Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:55am JC Denton wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:30am:
Yeah - Australia is pretty 'piss-poor' with anything. Even the natives didn't put up much of a fight 200 years ago. They just stood around like Kangaroos while the Free Settlers with their American Right to own a gun, just shot them. Bushfires are piss-poor compared to Volcanic 'Lava Flows'. Now can you see the Fireries like Mr January put them out with his big hose? There really is SFA in natural wonder Tourism and what there is - is usually fenced off and banned from visitations and experiences. Since 2000 - the immigration into this country has been 79% Darkies and only 21% Whities. Both Governments have been sexually weak and this is why I don't think Higgins was raped - Politics just can't get it up. Piss-Poor Snow like a Stolen Seat in the Senate. Piss-Poor Rain unless like a Caucus Spill for a flood. Let's not mention the Women here either! NEW Zealand women (Whities) breed like Rabbits and are sexually aggressive. Australian women are 'LAME' and charge any man they have sex with as Rape or Sexual Assault. Black Men are only allowed to 'breed', not White - because that's 'Racism' for you. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by The Grappler Truth Teller on Dec 25th, 2023 at 9:47pm
We don't use that word - it's our duty to educate the Third World to help it out... well - until the Downfall comes along again... not sure which will strike the human race first - an unstoppable disease or an unstoppable war.
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by The Grappler Truth Teller on Dec 25th, 2023 at 9:50pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:08am:
Interesting character picture - I think in some ways we are all sad ghosts of what this nation once was... Our people once were warriors, Jake - thrashed the Germans and the Japanese etc .... now they are worriers.... and not much else...and with good reason... The Sellout!! |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 26th, 2023 at 1:58am JC Denton wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 7:30am:
It seemed to get on your goat though, eh? Aussie's awful, you said. No, we said, it's really quite nice. It's full of Boongs, you said. That's okay, we said, you get used to them. No, you said, I'm going to do some sh1t online degree and piss off to some tinted country. Okay, we said. Stay safe. Now you're back for Chrissie, you've suddenly noticed the lack on snow. You get that, no? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 26th, 2023 at 2:04am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 9:50pm:
Oh, I know. Lost in Gallipoli, got creamed in Vietnam, then got our arses handed to us in Afghanistan - after our elite soldiers shot goatherders in ditches and pushed 16 year old kids off cliffs. Once were warriors, innit. You pay your respects to elders past, present and emerging, ya? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Dec 26th, 2023 at 7:58am Karnal wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 1:58am:
stop |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Mar 17th, 2024 at 7:29pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:32am:
The Russian scam luring Nepalese men with the promise of a better life, only to drop them on the battlefield in Ukraine Krishna is one of hundreds of Nepalese men who are estimated to have signed up to fight alongside Russia in its war against Ukraine. The men were lured by promises of more than $US2,000 ($3,000) a month and a fast-tracked pathway to Russian citizenship. In Krishna's case, he said he was approached by a recruiter who promised him a job in Europe. But when he got to Moscow, he was told there was no work for him due to high snowfall during the northern hemisphere winter. After three months, during which he became increasingly desperate, the recruiter suggested Krishna join the Russian military. "We did realise we [made a] mistake. But the way we reached [Russia] and were tricked by the agent, we had no alternative," he said. Despite Nepal's condemnation of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the offer is attractive considering Nepal's struggling economy. Statistics show one in five people live below the poverty line, youth unemployment is almost at 20 per cent, and an average of 1,500 young people leave Nepal every day to find jobs overseas — including in Russia. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103580652 They are not sending their best.... |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on May 8th, 2024 at 9:24am
Associate Professor Salvatore Babones hit out at the education industry (!) in a scathing interview with news.com.au where he revealed Australia now takes 8% of the world’s international students, and said Nepalese and Indian students were exploiting a rule allowing the spouses of postgraduate students to work.
Mr Babones went on to address claims that education is an “export” which brings in $40 billion a year, saying that in reality Indian and Nepalese students “game the financial requirements” by getting tuition loans, which are then paid off by part-time work and full-time working spouses, meaning the same amount of money then leaves Australia again. “The scam – and I call it a scam, or a rort – is that universities are allowed in effect to sell work visas". The Noticer News |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on May 8th, 2024 at 8:32pm
It is essentially a myth that international education is an export industry, notwithstanding its classification by the Australian Bureau of Statistics as such. Indeed, O’Neil has proudly declared “international education is our fourth largest export” and needs to be protected.
Exports are defined as goods and services produced in one country and sold to buyers in another. With international education, the expectation was that students would convert their foreign currency to pay the fees and living expenses while studying here. The reality is very different. While some initial fees may be paid from abroad, most international students work while studying to cover their living expenses and further fees. This is not an export activity. We don’t count the entry of temporary workers as an export. ... “That is, someone borrowed money five years ago, put it in a bank account to show they can pay the tuition, pay the tuition out of the bank account, but their work earnings are paying that loan off”, Babones said. The practice was “absolutely routine” in India and Nepal for students to “game the financial requirements” by getting loans from family or even loan sharks years in advance to secure a visa, according to Prof Babones. “Those funds are never coming to Australia,” he said. Salvatore Babones noted similar in his recent book, “Australia’s universities, can they reform”: “In reality, everyone (except perhaps the government and the universities) knew that many international students pay for their courses out of the proceeds of their work in-country, often working excessive hours under exploitative conditions, in violation of their visa terms”. “This situation is especially common among South Asian students, and is reflected in the steep fall-off in South Asian student numbers when teaching moved online”. “With prospective students unable to rely on employment income in Australia to support their studies, new commencements of Indian students at Australian higher education providers fell 65% between 2019 and 2021; for Nepali students, the decline was 37%; for Pakistanis, 45%; for Sri Lankans, 54%”. “These countries are simply too poor to send large cohorts of international students to Australian universities based on family resources alone”. “For many South Asian students, a student visa is a very expensive but thinly disguised work visa”. https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/05/the-mask-comes-off-international-student-exports/ |
Title: Re: universities=centres of spineless hypocrisy Post by Frank on May 10th, 2024 at 4:37pm
Universities offer course in self-serving cowardice
Today, as our universities’ leaders vacillate between equivocating and cowering, that lack of principle, which was once the exception, has become the rule. It is, for example, difficult to believe that the University of Melbourne, faced with the threat that a presentation by Professor Tal Shima, an eminent Israeli aeronautical engineer, would be severely disrupted, didn’t warn the thugs that they would be arrested, charged and expelled – it cancelled Shima’s lecture. By capitulating, the university not only set an appalling precedent; it made a mockery of its commitment to the untrammelled pursuit of scientific excellence. Nor is it much comfort that the universities can be tough when they want to be, for their outrage is a case of being strong with the weak and weak with the strong. The University of Queensland savaged Drew Pavlou for misconduct that pales compared to the behaviour our academic institutions routinely accept from pro-Palestinian militants. Equally, James Cook University sacked Professor Peter Ridd for breaches of confidentiality that fall far short of the “doxxing” of Jewish academics that, at least so far, has been brushed off with barely a murmur by the University of Sydney. ... Hailed by Mussolini as “the fighters who have encouraged the reluctant, castigated the pusillanimous and forced governments to surrender”, it was those students’ tactics of occupying university premises, disrupting university life and vilifying, harassing and intimidating opponents what Theodore Adorno, the father of Critical Theory, and his Frankfurt School colleagues had in mind when they called the student protesters in 1968 “red fascists”. That those “red fascists” now pullulate on our campuses is hardly surprising. Henry Ergas |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on May 21st, 2024 at 7:34am
Wiley's 'fake science' scandal is just the latest chapter in a broader crisis of trust universities must address
The universities present a formidable lobby in Canberra, however, and have vociferously fought other attempts at regulation, including on questions of tertiary education standards and even the safety of their students on campus. They have adopted a Wall Street-style approach to their missions, paying exorbitant salaries to their leaders and gunning for eye-watering surpluses. They are interested principally in the protection of their global rankings, to which they tie their prospects of attracting future fee-payers. The problem is only becoming more urgent. The recent explosion of artificial intelligence raises the stakes even further. A researcher at University College London recently found more than 1 per cent of all scientific articles published last year, some 60,000 papers, were likely written by a computer. In some sectors, it's worse. Almost one out of every five computer science papers published in the past four years may not have been written by humans. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103868662 |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Gnads on May 22nd, 2024 at 12:07pm Gordon wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 7:29pm:
Scandalous dumbing down racial discrimination. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 1st, 2024 at 8:48pm Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:25am:
Africa has about 1.4 billion people on the continent ranging from all ethnicities. Australia has about 2 million millionaires out of the 26 million people here -- 11% of the adult population. Even if 0.1% of Africans are millionaires, they can afford to send 1.4 million students overseas. Australia is one place that is crying out for university students. Trust me, I know. I went to university in 1997, and the place was crowded with students. I am doing a university course now, and every time I go out there for a practical class or even for those student get together, there are about 1/4 of the number of students I see now compared to 1997. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 1st, 2024 at 9:04pm Now in its 9th edition, the annual report reveals that there are currently 135,200 high-net-worth individuals (HNWIs) with liquid investable wealth of USD 1 million or more living in Africa, along with 342 centi-millionaires worth USD 100 million or more, and 21 dollar billionaires. a huge % of these 'african' milllionaires will be white south africans, egyptians, arabs and indians living in africa, not jungle bunnies the ceo of botswana's biggest supermarket is indian virtually all will send their kids to a u.s or british university if they study abroad |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:08pm
Last time I looked at an Atlas, Egypt was in Africa, just as South Africa was. Many Indians live in Africa as do many Chinese. Guess what they all call themselves? African. Funny that, hey. Your Racism is showing quite brightly there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:22pm
Many Africans in Australia are white South Africans and Zimbabweans fleeing racial discrimination. I have met a Zimbabwean who did not hold back his feelings about the situation in Zimbabwe.
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:08pm:
You are an ignorant idiot of rare occurrence. Ghandi lived in Africa for 2 decades. He was never an African. You multiculti morons hide behind your total ignorance of all cultures, including your own. Your ignorant stupidity is your unbreakable shield. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:47pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:08pm:
you knucklehead north africans and egyptians are caucasoid, they are not 'african' in the sense that we all know that word to mean, including you (maybe) if you weren't deliberately playing stupid they certainly don't seem to think so either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadat_(miniseries) Quote:
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:49pm
North Africans look more like Middle Eastern people than Caucasian.
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:49pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:49pm:
i said caucasoid not caucasian |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:50pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:49pm:
Basically the same meaning. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:54pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:50pm:
no in classical human taxonomy caucasian is the european sub branch of caucasoid, which roughly equates to what we would (in more modern parlance) refer to as the human population cluster of west-eurasians, which includes both europeans and middle eastern north africans |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:25pm
Caucasians are European people who live west of the Caucasus. The origins of caucasians are primarily throughout Europe and western Asia, and even parts of northern Africa. But, I don't differentiate terminology between "caucasian" and "caucasoid".
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:36pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:54pm:
Taxonomy has been overturned by the discovery and mapping of the Human Genome. There is no DNA difference between an African and a European or an Asian or an Indigenous Australian at a gross level. They are all members of the only real race that exists, the Human one, they can all interbreed and are the same Genetically. Their only differences are minor ones based on external appearance. Racists harp on the differences as something other than environmental consequences. Fools like you who refuse to recognise Genetics as a modern science and cling to old, ancient beliefs like phrenology. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:10pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:25pm:
words have multiple meanings; caucasoid was often used in archaic terminology to refer to the entire west-eurasian population cluster, while caucasian more narrowly referred to europeans; today usually it refers to people indigenous to the caucasus mountains you love pointless semantics don't you? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:36pm:
you're the one who yourself tried to argue that "dna proved someone to be european" and i put it in my signature to mock you and the fact that you don't understand what you're saying to the point that you're contradicting your own arguments |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:25pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:10pm:
I would say that it more your thing. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:46pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:13pm:
Did I? How about you quote me, where I said that, EmpNat? I mean I don't want to accuse you of lying or anything, now do I? It just sounds like the bullshit a Racist would seize on. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:06pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:36pm:
So what do these words MEAN: Aboriginal Anglo Saxon, Celtic White European Black African Arab |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:11pm Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:06pm:
If you need explanation, consult a dictionary, Soren. I'm sorry your education has been so lacking in such basic definitions. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:12pm
Well - when they drive the Jews out they'll need more money ... no balls left in these spheres of life - just arse-raising surrender monkeying... and outright victimisation of those who don't toe the line....
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:46pm:
you literally said it, and i put it in my signature there's no way you don't remember unless you really are senile https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706849815/60 Post #69 you're a master gaslighter |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 9:23pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Where do I claim that "dna proved someone to be european"? Again, I ask for a direct quote where I said that. You are inferring Racist beliefs that don't exist in anything I wrote. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 9:47pm
He just posted a f'n screenshot of quoting you. He even put up a link to it. Are you now denying that you said that?
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 9:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 9:23pm:
white = european synonymous concepts you're not really all there are you? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:18pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 9:58pm:
White =/= European. White people exist in many other places than just Europe. That still does not equate to, "dna proved someone to be european" except in your Racist imagination. I asked for a direct quote where I supposedly made that claim, you have thus far been unable to provide on. Funny that. You're assuming that the norm for humans is being "white" when in reality it has proved to be dark skinned more than likely African. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:25pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:18pm:
holy sh1t white = indigenous european person ffs you literally said "dna proved someone to be white" which means that it identified them to be genetically an indigenous european person, part of the west-eurasian european population cluster more specifically. that is what it means and it runs contrary to the rest of the bullsh1t you post about human population groups |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:40pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:25pm:
DNA proved they were white, does not equate to everybody being European which is what you are claiming I said. Time you learnt to speak the King's English my man. You are speaking Racist gibberish. What it means is that it proved one woman was White according to the South African Apartheid regulations, not everybody. As I have said, the evidence is more that the majority of humanity comes from African stock originally. Europeans became white in their effort to more easily absorb Vitamin D from sunlight, which Africans did not need to do to the same extent. Europeans are the mutants. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 11:18pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:
'DNA proved them to be white', white as used here is synonymous with 'indigenous european person', meaning DNA identified them to a person of european ancestry, demonstrating that human sub-populations (known in archaic terminology as 'races') do in fact exist, and can be ascertained on the basis of genetic evidence alone though in the instance of the person you were referring to in the post, no DNA evidence did not prove them to be european because there was no DNA test actually taken, but the post you made completely contradicted your own b.s and was an obvious slip, that's why i keep bringing it up. it's a gotcha and more than anything demonstrates to me you have a very tenuous grasp of the points that you regurgitate mindlessly so often that is the relevance of this ffs |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:48am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:
White is a race, like black, dickheaddle. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:57am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:11pm:
You mean DNA is totally irrelevant to the meaning of these words. Yet you keep talking about DNA when talking about blacks, whites, aborigines as if DNA was relevant to understanding these markers. Why ARE you so stupid, Bbwian? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:00pm Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:57am:
Those words were coined before the discovery of DNA, Soren. Their meanings are being modified as I speak. I just wish you'd learn something rather than rely on old words the way you do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by JC Denton on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 5:19pm
no they arent, they largely mean what they always meant as genetic evidence has confirmed them to conceptually reflect the general understanding of what they were prior to what anyone knew what dna was
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 5:35pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:00pm:
You mean DNA is totally irrelevant to the meaning of these words. Yet you keep talking about DNA when talking about blacks, whites, aborigines as if DNA was relevant to understanding these markers. Why ARE you so stupid, Bbwian? What is the "new, post-dna discovery " meaning of black, African, white, European, Aboriginal, Anglo Saxon, Celtic, Asian, Indian, Arab, etc?? |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:41pm |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:15pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:
Maybe I am off-topic here. But if someone is proven to have European DNA, does their ancestry have at least some European origin? And I would say that the term would be "evolution" not "mutation". |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:06pm
White people's ancestry is European, wherever they may be in the world.
This is totally obvious and unremarkable, like Aboriginals having ancesrors from pre1788 Australia. Bbwiyawn is just playing silly old buggers, as always. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:49pm
Ultimately our ancestry is African, Franko!
A tiny bit of our ancestry is even Neanderthal or Denisovan, pre Homo sapiens species. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:59pm
Homo erectus georgicus people lived in Georgia 1.8 million years ago. Should we start saying that modern humans also came from Eastern Europe?
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Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
And so you are a black African, then, like, say, Nelson Mandela or Idi Amin. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2024 at 5:55pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
Which is rather like the point I made several posts ago. Soren would never, however admit that he once had black ancestors. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2024 at 5:56pm Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:59pm:
See. Soren would hate to admit he once had black ancestors. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:08pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 5:56pm:
As every dim 13 year old schoolboy knows, it was not called 'Africa' before the Romans. Even the Romans did not mean the whole continent, only the bit west of Egypt, the defeated Carthaginian territories. Africa is a European invention, like so much else. Tsk, tsk :o :o In any case, it is a specific race of people who get offended if you call them nigglers. Why? Because they know and you know exactly what you have noticed and what you are referring to. And it's not their DNA, no matter how much silly old senile Bbwiyawn bangs on about 'indistinguishable by dna'. You can call me a niggler and I won't get upset because I am obviously not one. Was it Milan Kundera who nailed it: call a horse-face a dog-face and he will laugh with you. Call him a horse-face and he will hate you for the rest of his life. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:11pm |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:35pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:11pm: Silly old duffer, your balls have been nailed to the floor again. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:37pm
Homo species including H sapiens arose in Africa.
You are an African, Franko! If you don’t want to be an African maybe you can be a Micronesian but since you are a Hamlet you are a descendant of Africans and I care not a whit what is was called in Roman times. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jun 4th, 2024 at 8:02pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 6:37pm:
Well, you ARE dimmer than a dim 13 year old schoolboy, my little Dutch African from the arse end of the arse end. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:01pm |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 9:03pm
Universities have cut 2291 jobs this year as vice-chancellors pocket million-dollar salaries, with 306 academic leaders paid more than state premiers.
Widespread wage theft, wasteful spending and conflicts of interest are outlined in a damning report from the National Tertiary Education Union. Using data gleaned from university annual reports and testimony from hundreds of anonymised staff whistleblowers, the NTEU details a “crisis of governance’’ in higher education. Exposing “the overpaid executive class and their reckless spending’’, the NTEU reveals universities spent $734m on external consultants in 2023. The average vice-chancellor remuneration package across 37 public universities was $1.048m – almost double the $587,000 paid to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese last year, the report shows. NTEU national president Alison Barnes said university councils stacked with corporate appointees had failed to justify vice-chancellors’ salaries, which should be pegged to premiers’ pay rates. “Vice-chancellors getting paid double the Prime Minister’s (salary) are blowing $734m on consultants while cutting jobs, stealing $400m from staff and presiding over serious potential conflicts of interest,’’ she said. “There’s not a single public institution we would tolerate this conduct in, and universities should be no exception. “Australia urgently needs a federal parliamentary inquiry into university governance and workforce planning. Public universities are publicly funded and should work for the public good.’’ https://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/university-staff-blow-the-whistle-on-wage-theft-waste-and-jobs-for-mates/news-story/6d4437dc3cc1404c7889e28c5e3e4929 |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 9:53pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:28pm:
There are rich people in Africa. They're not happy with the local universities, and they're willing to pay to have their children educated in Australian universities. As a socialist I think we should be offering scholarships to African children who do well in high school. It's a form of foreign aid, but if we do it for every country poorer than our own it will also raise academic standard. Our own young people should have to compete on ability, and if fewer of them even try (and pursue a career with only high school education) then it's not a huge sacrifice. Those non-U student will raise the standards at TAFE. This is the brave new world, after Fraser killed free tertiary education, and after successive governments have failed to fund Universities. Australian kids can't afford and often don't qualify, for university courses they want. Universities are funded mainly by fees. Let's go full socialist for our own kids. Lets lower the entrance marks for Australians (but let them float for foreigners.) Let's return to full public funding (no loans, no fees.) We can still allow foreign students, providing they pay, and furthermore we can offer scholarships (free education) for some foreign students who did well in school. We may need to increase the density of traditional universities, and/or build whole new universities, but that's the cost of being a great nation. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Biasthebull on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:24pm Aurora Complexus wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 9:53pm:
LOL |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:35pm Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 11:35am:
Students might like that work. But the idea that fewer people should be qualified, because it means cheaper services for the middle class, is fundamentally flawed. Creating more qualified people does not create more jobs requiring qualifications. It takes time for the private sector to make places for qualified people. The country with the most tertiary graduates is Russia. There's an enormous backlog from Soviet times, when people could get fewer working hours if they also studied. And what is Russia's strategic advantage now? They have lots of hackers. My vision is an Australia where everyone has some kind of qualification. We would attract investment capital. We would hit way above our weight, in trade and internet services. And we would grant citizenship to the best and brightest, educated in our own universities. We're rich, but we could be far richer. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:45pm Biasthebull wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:24pm:
Greatness is not just a matter of population, nor of GDP. Australia is already great. We rank quite well in World Happiness Index, and we're not bad in GDP per capita. There is a way forward from being great. It's to be greater. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Biasthebull on Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:42am Aurora Complexus wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:35pm:
It's nice to dream ... in the meantime homeowners are struggling to pay mortgages and put food on the table ... it's quite a struggle in our "rich" country Haven't you noticed all the home invasions and police working overtime to arrest criminals? Have you noticed rate payers being slugged with massive increases in rates? And toll increases biting into motorists incomes? Yes, we could be far richer, but we're not going to be |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:53am Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 9:03pm:
This needs to be sorted out pronto. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 24th, 2024 at 1:00am Belgarion wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 10:29am:
This is definitely a factor in accepting foreign students. In addition, Australian educated people make excellent immigrants. Quote:
That sounds like anecdotal evidence to me. I'm not saying it didn't happen. Vice-chancellors and other senior staff have discretionary power they probably shouldn't have. Quote:
I wouldn't worry about security issues, much. If a foreigner has security clearance to enter the country at all (ie they have a visa) then the demonstrative nature of student politics will probably channel them into harmless protest. They will probably "talk it out" instead of "acting it out." |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Dec 1st, 2024 at 1:24pm
Fake Indian students who were brazenly exploiting Australia’s visa system have complained they’ve been left out of pocket after their fake colleges were shut down.
The Australian government in August ordered the closure of 150 “ghost colleges” – fake schools that take fees from international students who never attend classes but work full-time instead – and sent warning notices to 140 more. Upset visa scammers have since complained to Indian newspaper The Tribune, which confirmed that some of the shut-down colleges were co-owned by or cooperating with migration agents in Punjab to provide international students with “backdoor immigration and work rights”. “I came to Australia two years ago as a student after being assured that I can work five days a week, while my attendance and course would be taken care of. Now, I have been told by my Punjab-based agent that the government has sealed the college,” one fake student told the publication. “The agent who sent us here has already shut operations in March after being booked in a visa cheating case.” Another complained that she and her brother were shocked after suddenly being ordered to report back to their ghost college after moving to Adelaide to work in a café. “The authorities later shut the college. Till now, we have no idea how to handle the situation. We have already paid the entire course fee,” said. Migration agents also confirmed that they were being affected by the Australian crackdown and similar actions taken by the Canadian government, but said they expected to find a way around the situation. “I have already shut my operations in Punjab, after Canada and Australia tightened the noose around study visas. Many private colleges in Canada and Australia have funding from agents like us,” said one agent who admitted sending hundreds of fake students to Australia. “We have told the students not to panic and there will be a way out soon.” https://www.noticer.news/fake-indian-students-complain-ghost-college-shutdown/ https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/patiala/150-ghost-colleges-in-oz-shut-down-indian-students-stare-at-bleak-future/ Needless to say, it isn't only student visas that are scammed by third worlder. |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Brian Ross on Dec 1st, 2024 at 3:31pm |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:59am Frank wrote on Dec 1st, 2024 at 1:24pm:
Australia’s courts and tribunals are bracing for tens of thousands of international students to appeal against the refusal or cancellation of their visas, amid concerns that foreign visa-holders are gaming the system to circumvent a federal government push to slash net migration. Anthony Albanese has been warned that the Administrative Appeals Tribunal and courts will “drown” in appeals from onshore international students whose visas have been or are in the process of being cancelled or refused by the Department of Home Affairs. With almost 700,000 international students currently in the country, The Australian can reveal the AAT has already been swamped with visa review applications, which can take years to process and are often lead to appeals in federal courts. New AAT figures show the number of international students who lodged reviews of their student visa refusal or cancellation between September 1 last year and August 31 soared to 15,754, compared with just 2244 the year before. In July and August this year, 4863 appeals against student visa decisions were lodged with the AAT, more than double the number lodged in the entire 2022-23 financial year. The Australian understands many of the international students lodging applications to review their visa refusals and cancellations are from India and China. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/international-student-visa-appeals-skyrocket-amid-migration-crunch/news-story/dc7f7b9a773168eb3966ab3cffae6c38 |
Title: Re: australian universities want n16gers too now Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:06am
I bring you the Guest Worker Visa to fill a specified spot ...... a genuine vacancy ... how many of those 'students' come here and set up a lucrative business with all tax concessions etc and fade later without paying a cent?
Asutralia - Hte Smrat Cuonty! **on this occasion, refrains from referencing 'inclusion' and 'affirmative action' to install those who 'speak-a da lingo etc' in positions where they make decisions on visas and such... not me - I wouldn't mention another failing of 'inclusive' policies and social science mis-managed politics... No speak-a da English = 1 stripe No come-a from-a English-a-speak-a background = 2 stripes Speak-a da same lingo as foreigners prepared to pay me to get here = 3 stripes Be sheila = 4 stripes Be Sallow = 5 stripes Have disability mental or physical = 6 stripes (and that's only customs and immigration etc)** Asutralia - Hte Smrat Cuonty! |
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