We give Palestine over $30 million a year in foreign aid.


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"Right now, I am prepared to be a suicide bomber." "With Allah's help, I will fight for ISIS, the Islamic State." "I am ready to stab a Jew and drive a car over them." "We have to constantly stab them, drive over them, and shoot them." "Stabbing and running over Jews brings dignity to the Palestinians." Palestinian children are taught to hate. If you want to free the Palestinians, you must free their children's minds from hate. https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1712506046135091634

If you teach kids to hate then don't be surprised if they become terrorists when they grow up.

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سیاست‌ندار @fckislamiccults “Shove 🇵🇸up your ass” That’s how #IraniansStandWithIsrael https://twitter.com/fckislamiccults/status/1711630314546888818

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Translated from Persian by Google Martyr and wounded production ceremony with tomato sauce in the Gaza Strip https://twitter.com/XkbarX/status/1713008999380156753

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Hamas leader live in luxury in Qatar. They send their kids to school in Europe.


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GUESS WHERE THIS HOUSE IS…….. WAIT PALACE….. YEP YOU GUESSED IT PALESTINE  WHY NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLAR MANSIONS IN THE HILLS RIGHT NEXT TO POVERTY KEEP THE PEOPLE POOR WHILE YALL EAT Palestine Communist Party In communities throughout the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, a surprising degree of luxury exists alongside the poverty. This study includes “A Photo Album of Palestinian Luxury in the West Bank,” offering a more complete picture of living standards there. The truth is that alongside the slums of the old refugee camps, which the Palestinian government has done little to rehabilitate, a parallel Palestinian society is emerging. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Are we missing something here? https://twitter.com/giezwacoin/status/1712826260710195684

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Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

If you teach kids to hate then don't be surprised if they become terrorists when they grow up.

Is that what happened to you?

Check out Peccary trying hard to be a smart arse.
He's about as successful a Troll as John 'The Gronk' Smith.

Maybe Peccary needs a new nickname. He runs a rip-off music store in Perth. Maybe we'll call him...
Greggory 'The Rapper' Peccary?

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We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 16^th, 2023 at 8:54pm:

Hamas leader live in luxury in Qatar. They send their kids to school in Europe. Quote: GUESS WHERE THIS HOUSE IS…….. WAIT PALACE….. YEP YOU GUESSED IT PALESTINE  WHY NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLAR MANSIONS IN THE HILLS RIGHT NEXT TO POVERTY KEEP THE PEOPLE POOR WHILE YALL EAT Palestine Communist Party In communities throughout the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, a surprising degree of luxury exists alongside the poverty. This study includes “A Photo Album of Palestinian Luxury in the West Bank,” offering a more complete picture of living standards there. The truth is that alongside the slums of the old refugee camps, which the Palestinian government has done little to rehabilitate, a parallel Palestinian society is emerging. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Are we missing something here? https://twitter.com/giezwacoin/status/1712826260710195684

He’s not the only Palestinian terrorist billionaire. The fact that the Palestinian govt are beholden to these Palestinian terrorists means 1 thing : Palestine as a country needs a complete rethink. Why? It’s failed.

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 7:25am:

We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel

Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya dopey dim wit.You should go back to mongs forum it's an asylum for half wits like you.

The Greens think we should boycott Israel they are just as delusional as you.


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In 2021, two-way goods and services trade amounted to approximately $1.34 billion, of which Australian exports were worth $325 million and imports from Israel $1.02 billion. Israel's innovation eco-system is one of the most developed in the world, shaped by a sophisticated system of major global investors, start-ups, the Israeli military and universities. There are more than 400 multinational research and development (R&D) centres in Israel, established by global companies such as Apple, Facebook, GE, Google, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, and Samsung.Apple opened its first R&D office outside the US in Israel. https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/israel/israel-country-brief

All the precision weapons our Air Force use are Israeli technology.

About 80% of our Naval weapons systems come from Israel here is one.

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Typhoon Weapon Station The Typhoon is a type of remote weapon station manufactured by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems of Israel, The weapon is mounted on a stabilized deck mounting which allows it to remain on target as the platform beneath it moves. The stabilizer has an accuracy of 0.25 milliradians (mrad), allowing it to keep the weapon aimed to within 250 millimetres (9.8 in) on a target 1,000 metres (3,300 ft) away. The mounting does not penetrate the platform, making it relatively simple to fit the weapon to ships. Typhoon can use sights attached to the weapon mount or it can receive inputs from an independent Electro-Optical Detector (EOD) or Fire Control Radar (FCR). Using its own sight the Typhoon system can provide firing solutions entirely without outside assistance, allowing it to function fully independently. The cannon system mounted can be an ATK, Oerlikon, Mauser or Giat model in the 20–30 mm caliber range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Weapon_Station

Reagan spent billions on the American star wars missile defence system they couldn't get it to work.

Israel figured out how to shoot missiles down with missiles their Iron Dome has been doing it for years.

We buy a lot of stuff from Israel we don't give them handouts.

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Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit

My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising.

Try again you moron

Our aid to Palestine ends up in the hands of terrorists.


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UNRWA @UNRWA 🛑URGENT CLARIFICATION FROM @UNRWA With regards to reports on social media of looting of an UNRWA warehouse. UNRWA would like to confirm that no looting has taken place in any of its warehouses in the Gaza Strip. [1/2] https://twitter.com/UNRWA/status/1713950145618841820

People have saved the posts they deleted before they started backpeddling.  ::)

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John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 7:57pm:

Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron

You said

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 7:25am:

We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel

Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries?

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 7:57pm:

Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron

My Air Force friends say whatever the US gives Israel is compensation for restraint of trade as the US doesn't want Israel selling precision weapon technology to everyone.

Have a look at the list of countries that also use precision weapon technology from Israeli technology they are all friends of the US and Israel.

The precision weapons technology the US has comes from Israel.

Have a look at the new F35 the Israelis don't get the US electronic package they developed their own which will be superior along with cheaper and more reliable.

This is about Australian aid to Palestine only brain dead half wits deflect to other countries.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron My Air Force friends say whatever the US gives Israel is compensation for restraint of trade as the US doesn't want Israel selling precision weapon technology to everyone. Have a look at the list of countries that also use precision weapon technology from Israeli technology they are all friends of the US and Israel. The precision weapons technology the US has comes from Israel. Have a look at the new F35 the Israelis don't get the US electronic package they developed their own which will be superior along with cheaper and more reliable. This is about Australian aid to Palestine only brain dead half wits deflect to other countries. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Israel was only able to build a weapons industry because of all the aid, advanced technology and industrial assistance it was given.

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries?

No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on.

Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on. Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D

Piss poor deflection Mimo, I've never intimated I speak for others, unlike you.

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:13pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on. Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D Piss poor deflection Mimo, I've never intimated I speak for others, unlike you.

So according to you if I say something I'm speaking for Australia but if you say something you're not?

That's what I like about you choo, you're a hypocrite through and through and you are constantly inconsistent.

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:12pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:06pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron My Air Force friends say whatever the US gives Israel is compensation for restraint of trade as the US doesn't want Israel selling precision weapon technology to everyone. Have a look at the list of countries that also use precision weapon technology from Israeli technology they are all friends of the US and Israel. The precision weapons technology the US has comes from Israel. Have a look at the new F35 the Israelis don't get the US electronic package they developed their own which will be superior along with cheaper and more reliable. This is about Australian aid to Palestine only brain dead half wits deflect to other countries. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Israel was only able to build a weapons industry because of all the aid, advanced technology and industrial assistance it was given.

That's bullshit Mimo. The Israelis made the UZI long history in good weapons.

Israeli also invented the pill camera as a spin off from military work.

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Gavriel Iddan is an Israeli electro-optical engineer and the inventor of wireless capsule endoscopy. Initially at RAFAEL Armament Development Authority working on guided missile technology, Iddan got the idea for an endoscopic capsule while on sabbatical in Boston from a neighbour of his, an Israeli gastroenterologist suffering from undiagnosed stomach pain. After working on the idea for almost twenty years, he successfully created a prototype in 1998 – a disposable pill-sized camera that passes straight through the digestive tract, continuously broadcasting to an external receiver. Iddan's invention was approved by the FDA in 2001.[1] In 2011 he became a European Inventor Award nominee.[2] Dr. Iddan was born in October 1941 in Haifa Israel.

He was born in Israel or was it called Palestine back then?
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Lots of medical innovations from Israel. For such a small country they produce a lot of Nobel prize winners.

To counter this pill camera muslims gave us the bomb you stick up your ass as a precision weapon.

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:16pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:13pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on. Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D Piss poor deflection Mimo, I've never intimated I speak for others, unlike you. So according to you if I say something I'm speaking for Australia but if you say something you're not? That's what I like about you choo, you're a hypocrite through and through and you are constantly inconsistent.

Your defence is you used the royal "we"?

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:21pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:16pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:13pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on. Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D Piss poor deflection Mimo, I've never intimated I speak for others, unlike you. So according to you if I say something I'm speaking for Australia but if you say something you're not? That's what I like about you choo, you're a hypocrite through and through and you are constantly inconsistent. Your defence is you used the royal "we"?

So you decided to make up what 'we' was? :D

You decided to make up what 'NO' was in regards to one of my posts.
Can you admit you're a hypocrite or will you hide behind 'stupidity' as usual??

Poll added

It's sorted.

Biden Announces He Has Secured Pinky Promise From Hamas Not To Use $100 Million For Terrorism

WASHINGTON, D.C. — After authorizing $100 million dollars for humanitarian aid in Gaza, President Biden assured Israel and other allies that he has received a pinky promise from Hamas that they won't use the money for terrorism.

"That's the strongest promise there is," Biden reminded reporters who questioned him on the matter. "They even put sugar on top and said 'Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye.' There is no stronger guarantee that this money will be put to good use helping innocent Palestinians instead of making homemade rockets to murder people with. It's all ok, folks!"

Biden then tripped on a nearby sandbag and broke 23 bones, forcing him to call a lid for the day.

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries?

I naturally assumed "we" meant the western world.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? I naturally assumed "we" meant the western world.

And what would you call the 'TRUE' politically 'Western' world Peccary?  :-?
I'm curious? ;)

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:13pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 8:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: Quote: Israel aren't terrorists and we don't give them foreign aid ya pey dim wit My comment wasn't just about Australia dumbarse,  and Israel gets over $3.8b in military aid from the USA annually, and rising. Try again you moron You said John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:25am: We should block all aid to terrorists,  starting with Israel Who is "we", Mimo? Do you speak for other countries? No  I speak for anyone who cares about what is going on. Why? Do you actually believe you speak for Australia? ;D ;D ;D Piss poor deflection Mimo, I've never intimated I speak for others, unlike you.

To be fair ... Frodo is a Five Foot Fruitloop and as such he often speaks for other Fruitloops. OzPol ought to respect the fact that the long term unemployed ignorant idiot has finally discovered a purpose in his empty existence. Let Frodo be the Voice for all Fruitloops I say 😂🤣😆

Frank wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 12:24pm:

It's sorted. Biden Announces He Has Secured Pinky Promise From Hamas Not To Use $100 Million For Terrorism WASHINGTON, D.C. — After authorizing $100 million dollars for humanitarian aid in Gaza, President Biden assured Israel and other allies that he has received a pinky promise from Hamas that they won't use the money for terrorism. "That's the strongest promise there is," Biden reminded reporters who questioned him on the matter. "They even put sugar on top and said 'Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye.' There is no stronger guarantee that this money will be put to good use helping innocent Palestinians instead of making homemade rockets to murder people with. It's all ok, folks!" Biden then tripped on a nearby sandbag and broke 23 bones, forcing him to call a lid for the day.

FMD! Biden is doing a Chamberlain all over again. Peace in our time OR piss poor waste of our time?

Pieces In Our Time!!

Hamas has built an extensive tunnel system under Gaza with all that EU and Arab aid money.  It's not for a metro line.

We should stop handing out foreign aid.....FULL STOP.

stop throwing our money at deadbeats, bludgers, terrorists and primitives who don't give a flying f@#k about us other than as a cash cow.

Let them get themselves out of trouble.

STOP WASTING OUR TAXES.

Hamas leader Khaled Meshal: personal wealth: $5 billion.

Support the Palestinians with humanitarian aid.



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Valkie wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 6:50pm:

We should stop handing out foreign aid.....FULL STOP. stop throwing our money at deadbeats, bludgers, terrorists and primitives who don't give a flying f@#k about us other than as a cash cow. Let them get themselves out of trouble. STOP WASTING OUR TAXES.

Albo wasted $450 million on the Abbo referendum.

All he does is piss our tax payers money against the wall.

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

Hamas leader Khaled Meshal: personal wealth: $5 billion. Support the Palestinians with humanitarian aid. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/152/166/485/original/5b7d1da2e00f73d8.png

This arsehole and his mob have now infiltrated Facebook with sponsored adverts asking for donations starting at $250 and doubling after that.

Needless to say ... the comments which are coming up are scathing.

Our foreign aid to Palestine goes to the UNRWA.


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UNRWA @UNRWA 🛑 Spreading unsubstantiated claims about @UNRWA must stop immediately. Making serious allegations in the public domain, unsupported by any evidence or verifiable facts in support thereof may amount to misinformation. FULL Statement ⬇️ Readers added context they thought people might want to know Claims against UNRWA have been documented for a long time. The headmaster of an UNRWA school  was a terrorist. reuters.com/article/middle… Film by David Bedein in Jenin, UNRWA policies and practices vimeo.com/856467890 UNRWA teachers celebrated Oct 7 massacre unwatch.org/report-u-n-tea… UNRWA teacher holds hostage in attic washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense… https://twitter.com/UNRWA/status/1730650140229201949

The comments are good. ;D

Our taxpayers money is funding Islamic terrorists to attack the Jews.

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‘Not A Single Cent’: Germany Joins European Union in Pulling Funding for U.N. Palestinian Aid Group November 28, 2023 1:24 PM Germany announced it would be freezing funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), a body specifically dedicated to Palestinian refugees, amid reports it has distributed antisemitic material, incited violence, and had alumni who participated in the October 7 atrocities in Israel Berlin has contributed nearly a billion dollars to UNRWA in the last five years, making it the single largest donor to the agency, which has come under renewed scrutiny since the Israel-Hamas war began for its record of failing to prevent foreign aid from falling into the terror group’s hands. “UNRWA is not making a contribution to a peaceful solution,” Max Lucks of the Green Party said. “Not a single cent from Germany should reach teachers who glorify the terror of Hamas.” “[T]here cannot be a status quo ante with UNRWA,” Falko Drossman of the left-leaning Social Democratic Party said, calling for “a new initiative” when it comes to providing aid to Palestinians. Last Tuesday, the European Union similarly moved to withhold 39 million euros from dozens of Palestinian non-profits, including UNRWA, demanding the groups provide “procedures and tools used to enforce the contractual obligations stemming from the restrictive measures and anti-incitement clauses.” At least two of these NGOs have been accused by an official of engaging in “incitement of hatred,” the Irish Times reported last Thursday. Switzerland’s federal council undertook a similar process freezing 600,000 euros until nearly a dozen Palestinian non-profits “carry out an in-depth analysis of the compliance of these organizations’ communications with the FDFA’s Code of Conduct and anti-discrimination clause.” Since Hamas invaded Israel in early October and massacred over a thousand people, reports have emerged which suggest that at least 100 terrorists who participated in the attacks were graduates of UNRWA-run institutions, and over a dozen educators within the system celebrated the attacks on social media. “Allah is Great, Allah is Great, reality surpasses our wildest dreams,” wrote Osama Ahmed, a UNRWA teacher in Gaza, in a characteristic Facebook post publicized by UN Watch, a watchdog organization, in its report released in early November entitled, “UNRWA: Hate Starts Here.” The report documents numerous senior-ranking members of the organization gloating about the October 7 atrocities, including Rawia Helles, the director of a training center in Khan Younis, a town in the southern Gaza Strip. Helles applauded the depraved acts of Palestinian terrorists, calling one operative a “hero” and “prince” for his actions. She was also featured in a UNRWA appeal on YouTube in October, raising awareness about the organization’s work. Mohammad Adwan, an English teacher within a UNRWA-funded institution in Rafah, justified the Hamas attack against “a people [Jews] that Europe wanted to get rid of.” As U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Nikki Haley led an effort to cut U.S. funding to UNRWA after reports emerged that schools run by the organization were distributing antisemitic books to school children. The funding was renewed under President Biden. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/not-a-single-cent-germany-joins-european-union-in-pulling-funding-for-u-n-palestinian-aid-group/

Others are cutting foreign aid to this terrorist basket case we should do the same.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

We give Palestine over $30 million a year in foreign aid.

I doubt any of it comes from you, dear boy   ;)

Absolutely.

All aid which goes to Gaza ends up in the hands of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Even the direct food aid ends up profiting Hamas because they levy taxes and duties against it, using the money for weapons, tunnel construction etc.

I do not feel sorry for the people in Gaza. They support Hamas. They have no interest in peace.

MattE wrote on Dec 6^th, 2023 at 9:40pm:

Absolutely. All aid which goes to Gaza ends up in the hands of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Even the direct food aid ends up profiting Hamas because they levy taxes and duties against it, using the money for weapons, tunnel construction etc. I do not feel sorry for the people in Gaza. They support Hamas. They have no interest in peace.

They kill their own women and children, but people blame the Israeli's for it.

Foreign aid is going to pour into Gaza.

About time, too.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-weighs-plan-to-flood-gaza-tunnels-with-seawater-a375dd0b

It worked in South Africa.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2023 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2023 at 10:50pm: We give Palestine over $30 million a year in foreign aid. I doubt any of it comes from you, dear boy   ;)

It comes from every single Australian citizen, Greg - as you well know.... we ALL pay tax every time we pay for anything.... it's not just about income tax, you know....

Individuals and other withholding taxes       46.0       45.6       46.3       47.1       46.5
Superannuation fund taxes       2.3       1.9       2.5       2.6       2.8
Company tax       19.3       19.6       18.9       18.3       18.3
Petroleum rent resource tax       0.3       0.3       0.3       0.2       0.2
GST       13.7       13.6       13.6       13.5       13.8
Total excise and customs duty       8.0       8.8       8.3       8.2       8.3
Major bank levy       0.3       0.3       0.3       0.3       0.3
Other tax revenue       2.6       2.8       2.8       2.8       2.8
Non-tax revenue       7.4       7.2       7.0       6.9       7.0

So depending on what you include here, a person in receipt of pension ONLY perhaps with a tiny super fund could be paying tax as high as 25-30%, maybe more!!  And without the income level to support this!!

Some of you need to get a life and a brain and start thinking.... even GST says nearly 14% - what pensioner can afford 14% on top of everything else? $70 while they're sleeping - AND it will be more than that since the lowest incomes have to spend more in areas that cost them GST!!!**  You with me yet? Excise on everything?  Paying companies for company tax?  Paying the banks for the levy?

Say a pensioner gets $500 a week - $150 leaves the door instantly while they sleep as taxes... that leaves $350 to live on..... you with me yet?  Someone goes to work - earns $1200 a week - 32% income tax (haven't got time to do the real figures but let's say filters down to 20%) + 30% is out of their pocket before they wake up.... maybe a little different, but what does that leave when 50% is gone instantly out of $1200?  $600 .....  you won't be in the casino at Monte Carlo with that!!

You need to be in some grift that has tax dodges to make any money here today in Australia - but you have no choice about your being taxed to provide money to terrorists and New Deep South Plantation Owners.

**GST is THE most insidious tax for removing more and more from the very lowest paid in the land... you lot really need to wake up.  NOW THEN - ABOUT THAT TAX REFORM!!!???  ALBO???  VOLDEMORT?  GET GOING ON IT!!  You've all got far more important work to do than working out how to rob the Australian people of their democratic right to a vote and to have that vote heeded by you!!

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What evidence is there that the Palestinians are willing and able to build a functioning society?

None. Every time they are given the choice to build a functioning society or to kill Jews, they invariably go for the latter.

Palestinians are simply not interested in creating a Palestinian society or state, they are only interested in, and are defined by, hating the Jews and wanting to kill them. Palestinians are the Israelis' "new-caught, sullen peoples, half devil and half child".

If the Jews disappeared from Israel overnight, Palestinians would run the place into the ground within weeks and sink back into barren, fractious, slovenly torpor. There is nothing to being 'Palestinians' beyond Jew killing, resentment and spite.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2023 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2023 at 10:50pm: We give Palestine over $30 million a year in foreign aid. I doubt any of it comes from you, dear boy   ;)

Baron should be very proud of the fact that he is not financing the overweight whining complaining sooks in Gaza
I wonder if there is a gofundme for Noble Australians to donate towards drones and munitions for the wonderful Israeli people

'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whassis, then?




Australia pauses funding for United Nations agency amid October 7 terror allegations

6:06PM JANUARY 27, 2024
Australia has paused funding for a key United Nations agency in Gaza after allegations emerged some staff were involved in the October 7 attacks.

On Friday, UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) commissioner-general Philippe Lazzarini revealed Israeli authorities had provided information about the alleged involvement of “several” employees in the attack.

“To protect the agency’s ability to deliver humanitarian assistance, I have taken the decision to immediately terminate the contracts of these staff members and launch an investigation in order to establish the truth without delay,” he said.

“These shocking allegations come as more than 2 million people in Gaza depend on lifesaving assistance that the Agency has been providing since the war began. Anyone who betrays the fundamental values of the United Nations also betrays those whom we serve in Gaza.”


On Saturday, Australia’s Foreign Minister, Senator Penny Wong, released a statement saying the allegations were “deeply concerning” and funding for the agency would be “temporarily paused”.

“We welcome UNRWA’s immediate response, including terminating contracts and launching an investigation, as well as its recent announcement of a full investigation into allegations against the organisation,” she said.

12 UNRWA workers on video taking part in Oct 7th terrorist attack.

Over 3000 UNRWA workers social media accounts show links to Hamas.

Why did it take Penny Wrong so long to act?

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Why aren't they in Git'Mo awaiting trial in twenty years or more?

We should stop giving to a lot of groups..... starting at home...................

Free the tent cities first!

Once again, all of you have no real understanding of complexities of world politics, and its effect on humanity.   If you dont want to get involved in the middle east, then be prepared to pay alot higher prices. 

The children dying in Palestine were not terrorists.   Develop some empathy and imagine just for one second, that you are the parent or grand parent of one of those children.   

The Children of Palestine HAMAS were indeed Terrorists.
From stone throwing to rejoicing in joy at the sight of Israeli hostages under duress. All captured on film chanting "Death to Jews".
Those little Terrorists wanting to become big Terrorists one day.

Jasin wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

The Children of Palestine HAMAS were indeed Terrorists. From stone throwing to rejoicing in joy at the sight of Israeli hostages under duress. All captured on film chanting "Death to Jews". Those little Terrorists wanting to become big Terrorists one day.

And what would you have done Jasin?  If your children, or your brother were all killed by bombs and tanks.  Will you just lay down and die?

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:58pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 10:50pm: The Children of Palestine HAMAS were indeed Terrorists. From stone throwing to rejoicing in joy at the sight of Israeli hostages under duress. All captured on film chanting "Death to Jews". Those little Terrorists wanting to become big Terrorists one day. And what would you have done Jasin?  If your children, or your brother were all killed by bombs and tanks.  Will you just lay down and die?

He who cast the first stone, was a Terrorist called HAMAS.

Israel has, with the UN. Done its best to help Palestinians/Palestine with many concessions, peaceful solutions and even to the 'advantage' of Palestine by majority - but every effort during every decade, the Palestinian (Terrorist) response was just "Death to Israel and Jews!"
So when the people of HAMAS butchered, raped, murdered, executed unarmed citizens of Israel during a music concert - they were asking for their martyrdom by bombs and tanks.

Do you think USA shouldn't have responded against the Japanese because of Pearl Harbour?
Do you think the USA and Britain should not respond to the Houthi attacks from Yemen?
Do you think the Ukrainians shouldn't respond to Russia's invasion?

Hiding behind 'Women & Children' being genocided is as bad as a HAMAS Terrorist using them as Shields.

Come now Tickle & Rose. Do you think Israeli soldiers should just go after the heavily armed HAMAS terrorists with just baseball and cricket bats so as not to harm the 'guilty by association' Women and Children who use 'emotional blackmail' of themselves in support of their Terrorist men?

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Jasin wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 11:06pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 10:58pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 10:50pm: The Children of Palestine HAMAS were indeed Terrorists. From stone throwing to rejoicing in joy at the sight of Israeli hostages under duress. All captured on film chanting "Death to Jews". Those little Terrorists wanting to become big Terrorists one day. And what would you have done Jasin?  If your children, or your brother were all killed by bombs and tanks.  Will you just lay down and die? He who cast the first stone, was a Terrorist called HAMAS. Israel has, with the UN. Done its best to help Palestinians/Palestine with many concessions, peaceful solutions and even to the 'advantage' of Palestine by majority - but every effort during every decade, the Palestinian (Terrorist) response was just "Death to Israel and Jews!" So when the people of HAMAS butchered, raped, murdered, executed unarmed citizens of Israel during a music concert - they were asking for their martyrdom by bombs and tanks. Do you think USA shouldn't have responded against the Japanese because of Pearl Harbour? Do you think the USA and Britain should not respond to the Houthi attacks from Yemen? Do you think the Ukrainians shouldn't respond to Russia's invasion? Hiding behind 'Women & Children' being genocided is as bad as a HAMAS Terrorist using them as Shields. Come now Tickle & Rose. Do you think Israeli soldiers should just go after the heavily armed HAMAS terrorists with just baseball and cricket bats so as not to harm the 'guilty by association' Women and Children who use 'emotional blackmail' of themselves in support of their Terrorist men?

You must have watched the debate carried out in Oxford university with Ben Shapiro.   Of all of the right wing debater out there.  I admire him the most, as he is smart and very quick thinking.

He put forth the argument that what Israel did in Gaza is justified, just as allied destruction, and killing of German population especially towards end of WW2 was justified.  And later on, this was morphed into other countries and conflict. 

When the allies bombed German, and Japan during WW2, and vice verse, it was to cripple the productive capability and infrastructure.  The objectives were clear.   So the purpose, was that eventually, German  / Japan would not able to replenish their war inventory, and thus leads to their defeat.

In Gaza.  We know that the Hamas is underground, its productive facilities does not exist in Gaza itself.  It was made else where, with fundings from else where.   And after decades of bombing, invasion, occupations and arrests, it is clear that there will be no military solution to this conflict.   The only reason that the bombs were dropped at the rate higher than even back in WW2 against Japan and German per meter square - is that, to cause as much carnage as possible on to the civilian population. 

The stats and numbers do not lie. 

As of December 30, 2023 Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor estimated Gaza Strip deaths as 30,034 total and civilian deaths at 27,681 which would mean about 2,353 militant deaths.
The US in all of its wars against ISIS, dropped ONE 2000 pound bomb.  Where as the Israeli government dropped hundreds
Over 70% of civilian housing are destroyed in Gaza. 

 It is not like they are going after HAMAS terrorists with baseball and crickets balls.  No, they are going after the civilians with bombs and shells.

You sound like a smart chick Tick.

Israel, although the Left/Media expect them to act like Nazi's and gas the 'helpless' Palestinians, in gas chambers.
Israel does its best to exist as a Military nation (more than religious one) upon the most 'Professional' level possible.

The USA was a close third to Nazi's and Soviets when it came to 'atrocities' of War in WW2 in Europe. Those three were far from the pack of other nations in this.

So there is a 'state of being' when it comes to Military action that asks for Professionalism. Though only a few nations aim for this. Pol Pot obviously didn't.

Now what we have here with Palestine come HAMAS is that Mohommedism has its Holy War based against Christianity, not Jews. It's the basis of why their Religion was created in the first place. You could say...
Europe stole Religion from the Middle-East (Judaism) and called it Christianity. Mohommedism was invented to get it back.
With this said - HAMAS is going 'against the grain' when attacking Israel. Especially when Islam is readying its last Great Jihad against Christian Europe (specifically France).
This 'cause' will bring about the effect that Palestine will cease to exist, not from being 'conquered', but by self-destructing... like a terrorist blowing himself up.
So, in essence - when you see all those Palestinians around the world Protesting and Promoting their 'existence' overseas. You could say "Now you know what it was like for the Jews when they had no homeland."
What goes around, comes around.  ;)

Hi Jason, I think you have misunderstood the entire Israel and Palestine situation.   Let me repeat this… there is NO military solution to this.    Lets look at the numbers. 

Israel was attacked by Hamas on 7/10/2023.  We are now into the 4th months of conflict.   The death toll at as of at 31/12/2023, was 30,034 total and civilian deaths at 27,681 which would mean about 2,353 militant deaths.  Conservative estimate of the number of HAMAS fighters prior to the conflict sits between 25000 and 30000 depending on source.   So this means, assuming HAMAS stopped recruiting all this time,  the Israeli government has to kill at least further 250 thousand to complete its objective.   But is it possible.

Absolutely NOT!
1.  The Israeli government was only able to kill 27000 civilians at the direct cost of 220 million US dollars a day over a period of 2 months.   In order to kill another 250000, it would mean the war will have to drag on for another 20 months.   
2. Remember, 220 million is only the direct cost.  The indirect cost of pulling productive young men and women from their usual jobs into the reservist,  would be unmeasurable.   It could cripple the entire Israel economy. 
3. From the actual picture of HAMA fighters, you can easily say that they are a band of low cost soldiers.  Perhaps the entire 25000 fighters can live within expenditure of 10000 US dollars a day.  It would be exceptionally cheap to maintain.  And with mounting increase to civilian casualty, they will have endless supplies of foreign funding and recruits.   But how long, can Israel sustain 220 million dollars a day?  A year?  2 years?  5 years?
4. Even if you killed the entire HAMAS army, with this amount of destruction, there will absolutely no question that there will be HAMAS 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 within the next few years.

To make it all simple.  War is like... running a business.  Is current Israeli attack is going to:
1) Stop recruits from joining HAMAS?  NO, its going to increase
2) Stop HAMAS from obtaining more foreign funds?  NO. Its going to increase.
3) Stop HAMAS from receiving more war inventory? NO. Its going to increase.
4) Stop HAMAS gaining more allies?  NO, its going to increase.
So its not going to work.

And that is not even taken into account, if the crisis will escalate to neighbouring countries. 

You see, paradoxically, all of you people who support Israel action is actually making average Jewish people less secure, less safe  in the long run.   Continue down this path, Israel is looking at economic disaster, and more enemies around its borders.   War is never the solution. 

Very smart post indeed Tickle&Rose. I'm impressed.
And of course, I think you are very right in what you posted there.
But you know, there is always more than just 'one' right answer and more than just Maths to explain the universe as well.

Let's take Russia & China. How would you go about voiding them (defeating them) Politically and Militarily?
Easy. Make them War against each other.  ;) The two 'bad guys' cancelling each other out.
With Israel and HAMAS. Israel can afford to drag it out. Hamas can't. Hamas Moslems are going against their Mohommedistic nature in attacking Israel and are in a race against time. Soon all of Islam will do to the French, what the Germans did to the Jews. They will extract their Christian Sacrificial 'Messiah' out of France to die for their Moslem sins. Hitler the Prophet offset the Messiah Jesus. So too will a Messiah for the Moslems offset their Prophet Mohommed. What goes around, comes around.
When Islam (as a Military Empire) gets its Messiah - it will fold as an Empire and lay down its 'weapons'. Moslems will thus become 'unarmed' and like the wandering Jews of old.
Hamas will cease to exist, forced to comply with all other Moslems in their new existence. While the unarmed wandering Jews of old, are now rising as a Military entity and in the future will be the New 'Empire' of the Middle-East.
In short.
What the Germans did to the Jews.
The Moslems will soon do to the French.
Then the Italians (Mafia+Vatican) will genocide the unarmed and vulnerable Moslems by the millions. Of course, the Moslems will pray to Allah for salvation and beg to the world for help (but past transgressions like Terrorism and Jihads won't be forgotten) - but the world will turn a blind eye. Only one nation will come to their aid and save them - ISRAEL. Ironic huh? ;) Israel, by then will be more Militarily powerful than it is currently and it will destroy Italy (Mafia/Vatican).
Thus Christianity in Germany has already been broken. Soon Christianity in France will burn like a Notre Dame cathedral and Christianity (Vatican) will be destroyed by its own deal with the Mafia devil. Thus, only Great Britain will remain of the Big 4. But by the time Great Britain's Christianity is taken to the Test. Israel and Islam will be 'United' (amazing huh?  ;)) and Great Britain must 'carry its Union Jack cross' and make the ultimate sacrifice to make Israel and Islam into 'Istari' (I-star-I: The Star of David between the two Pillars of Heaven in accordance with the Koran).
Basically, this is how it will be. It's a future that can't be denied or escaped from. Even a Muppet (The Dark Crystal) can see it coming.  ;).
So, with this said. Hamas will fail and self destruct. Israel doesn't need to 'conquer', it only needs to prevail and not be defeated, etc. Terrorism in itself is nothing more than the last vapors of a once glorious Empire. When Islam soon turns to its last great Jihad against Christianity (the death of 'christian' France), Hamas won't be receiving any support from the likes of Iran or any other Moslem nation or entity. Hamas will implode. This is why you see Palestinians around the world showing they still 'exist' like how the Jews did - homeless, for Palestine as a nation will cease to exist by its own hand. The process you could say, is half-way there.
Islam falls from being an Empire but rises into the Garden of Religion. Jews fell from the Garden of Religion, but now Rise into being the premier Empire of the Middle-East.
...it's all just a process.
Why? Well that takes a lot to explain - but you I can say that the discovery/colonisations of the New Worlds are having an effect of 'change' upon the Old Worlds.

As a Jew myself, I can easily explain the cause of Nazi Germany and why it did to us Jews what it did. We are as much to blame for our 'holocaust' as anyone else. Nazism was our 'Frankenstein' Monster and as the humbling joke goes: What was Jesus's last words to his Jewish people when nailed to a cross? "Wait till my little brother Hitler gets you - you bastards! >:(" What goes around, comes around. Redneck Prophets and Gay Messiahs... oh look! As I have said for years on this Forum. France's next President is 'Gay'. A fitting 'Messiah' for the Moslems don't you think Tickle&Rose? ;)

Thus you are mathematically right with Israel. Currently it is not sustainable or even feasible to obliterate HAMAS by its own means. But by not allowing HAMAS to 'regain' what it has already lost, Hamas will eventually collapse in on itself like a star that has run out of hydrogen and then helium. It too cannot sustain much in the manner of what it first tried to achieve - which is all that Israel needs to do.

Judaism is the Middle-East's theme on Asia (the Holy City)
Mohommedism is the Middle-East's theme on Africa (the Holy Land).
Christianity is the Middle-East's theme on Europe (the Holy Ghost).
With the emergence of the New Worlds into the consciousness of the Old Worlds. Old Religions are falling back upon their pasts. In the end - Israel and Islam will cease to exist, as Istari will remain. As too will Christianity.
They will be relics upon Museum shelves and their books will be found in Libraries among many others. For the 'Empire' of the Middle-East will be ruled (wait for it ;)) by a Zoroastrian (Greek word).

So, I know you want to ask. How do I know or come about all this? Well, I've run out of type limit characte  :(

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Now where was I (at this time of the wee hours)?
You probably relate to all things 'Down Under' Australia for the likes of British and USA cultural influence, if not Media as well. But I tend to look at things happening in the world as a 'Day Ahead' Australian. Sure, we may be 'Down Under' the likes of both nations. But we are also a 'Day Ahead' of them. You could say that the USA and its fascination with all things 'The End of the World', is because compared to us here - it really is at the End of the World (time wise).
This enables me to see through a lot of things, even a Glass Darkly. USA may be in the Penthouse 'up there' with that superiority (Space), but we are 'the future' (Time). In essence, it isn't hard to see where some things in this world have come from and where they are destined to go because of it. It's set in stone Tickle&Rose, just like writing was when it was created upon the Temple of Ur upon the worship of Sin (Sumerian for the 'moon') : Sin-Ur (Sinner). ;)

There is a good Mathematical thing to remember: "With all things being 'equal'...". Humanity as a creature upon this world of life (Gaea) is 'evolving' not just as species, but as a consciousness and as a part of this Gaean Life's influence on this planetoid. We are a part of 'nature' (Gaea) and thus even the fear of Global Warming, Pollution and Nuclear War... is a part of Natural occurrence. We are meant to make the world as it is currently, for that too is a 'process' in the making towards our future and I can assure you - despite the USA's (Media's) obsession with the 'End of the World'. It won't happen. We have many World Wars to go, I can assure you.  ;) The human world will not be destroyed by a WW3 Nuclear Holocaust.  :o Billions will die because of it, billions will die 'for it'. But it is not 'the End' of the story. We are not even remotely close to Humanity and its 'Happy Ending'.   8-) But it always helps to stay aware of the circumstances and not be in the wrong place at the wrong time when a Nuke comes like a Mass Extinction Meteor. I mean, its like not putting oneself in danger at a Music Festival, when Hamas Terrorist still roam - just because one believes that Woke/Media/Lefty attitudes think it will never happen because Palestinians would never do such a thing - they're victims and supporting them is all the rage in the Media/Woke/Lefty/Activism virtual signalling.

Well I hope Tickle&Rose that you find my recent posting(s) at least entertaining, if not 'stimulating' in offering you something 'new' that I know you have never seen (read) before. Nothing worse than 'sensory deprivation' (the true nature of being in a Prison) eh?
If, like Frank (one of a few smart posters here), you find my inclusion of humour into what I have written a bit hard to take seriously. Remember, its just a Divine Comedy after all. If you want to understand the world as a whole (no good saying like a virtual signaller that the World is 'One'/We are all 'One' - if you don't see the differences first) then you must place yourself upon Sin (the moon) and accept that you are indeed a 'Lunatic' and looking back at Ocean-Earth, experience something not too dissimilar to what Astronauts (Cosmonauts) experience when they also do, come to realise that it is still a Mad Mad World after all.  :)

Long ago, upon the top of the Temple of Ur in Sumeria, the Priests of Sin (Ab-Sin-nanna) looked up at our 'companion' in the sky where she at full (moon) would gravitationally uplift the waters in their bodies towards her and at such time, the Priests would feel the presence of their Pituitary Gland activate in their mind's awareness of clarity. For as a Male's body seeds the Female's body. The Female's mind seeds the Male's mind and Sin, in all her full beauty - seeded the minds of those Priests and thus they created 'Writing' to harvest their knowledge immortal. A woman's body creates a Child upon the seed of a man. A man's mind creates a Dream upon the seed of a woman.

From War comes Peace.
From Peace comes Suicide.
From Suicide comes Tranquility.
From Tranquility comes War.
-JaSin (2002)

As a Palestinian once said in 2045 AD. "Something lost (Palestine), is something gained (the World)."

As an Aborigine once said from Russia. "Something lost (the past), is something gained (a future)."

Well enough from me Tickle&Rose. Hope this helps a bit. Hope this has been fun. Hope you'll understand. Hope you see - that the best things in life, is like allowing your mind to roam free.

Down Under, but also a Day Ahead of the End of the World.

Get that up ya It_is_the_Light.   :P

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Imam of Peace @Imamofpeace Must watch: https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1734890657787818000

Looks like countries have decided they aren't going to give their taxpayers money to fund terrorists.

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We must put the brakes on terror ambulances June 4 2004 The United Nations and Red Cross have been providing cover for terrorists - literally. And American taxpayers are footing some of the bill. Last week, an Israeli television station aired footage of armed Arab terrorists in southern Gaza using an ambulance owned and operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA). Palestinian gunmen used the UNRWA emergency vehicle as getaway transportation after murdering six Israeli soldiers in Gaza City on May 11. The footage shows two ambulances with flashing lights pull onto a street. Shots and shouts ring out during the nighttime raid. A gang of militants piles into one of the supposedly neutral ambulances, clearly marked "U.N." with the agency's blue flag flying from the roof, which then speeds away from the scene. AccessMiddleEast.org, a nonprofit global news monitoring service, posted the video (shot by a Reuters TV cameraman) on its Web site last week. To date, Access Middle East managing director Richard Bardenstein in Israel informs me, not a single U.S. television news station has expressed interest in showing the footage to American viewers. Why should we care? Because since 1950, the U.S. has provided UNRWA with $2.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies - about one-third of the relief agency's total budget. And because instead of investigating this latest black eye-inducing scandal, the U.N. is blasting American troops for defending themselves against such outrageous tactics - now being emulated by Iraqi guerrilla warriors sniping at our men and women from ambulances in Fallujah. International relief officials are in stubborn denial about the abuse of their emergency vehicles and hospital credentials by terrorists. They claim the videotaped May 11 ambulance-assisted attack was an isolated incident and that the driver was forced to transport the gunmen. But this ambulances-for-terrorists program has been going on for years. According to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at the Center for Special Studies (CSS), senior UNRWA employee Nahed Rashid Ahmed Attalah confessed to using his official U.N. vehicle to bypass security and smuggle arms, explosives, and terrorists to and from attacks. He was in charge of distributing food supplies to Palestinian refugees. Nidal 'Abd al-Fataah 'Abdallah Nizal, a Hamas activist, worked as an UNRWA ambulance driver and admitted he had used an emergency vehicle to transport munitions to terrorists. U.N. vehicles aren't the only ones being used by terrorists. An intensive care ambulance carrying the acronym of the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) was used to deliver an explosive belt found underneath a stretcher on which a sick child was lying in spring 2002. Female suicide bomber Wafa Idris, who blew herself up in a January 2002 attack in Jerusalem, was a medical secretary for the PRCS. Her recruiter was an ambulance driver for the same organization. PRCS receives financial support from governments and organizations around the world, including the American Red Cross and International Committee of the Red Cross. The UNRWA has long been suspected of providing aid and comfort to terrorists. Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., chairman of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, recently documented how "buildings and warehouses under UNRWA supervision are allegedly being used as storage areas for Palestinian ammunition and counterfeit currency factories." Cantor's 2002 report also noted that UNRWA hosts summer camps in martyrdom for young terrorists-in-training. Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., has also lobbied for increased scrutiny of UNRWA funding, which has been used to publish anti-Semitic textbooks and posters in schools that "glorify homicide bombers and the slaughter of innocents." More- https://www.ocala.com/story/news/2004/06/04/we-must-put-the-brakes-on-terror-ambulances/31308636007/

We have known the UNRWA are corrupt for decades.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 11:08pm:

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Penny Wong must resign


Writing in this magazine in October, 2017, regular columnist Andrew L. Urban explained how that year alone, ‘half of the US$693 million that the Palestinian Authority receives as foreign aid… was paid out as stipends to convicted terrorists and their families’.

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Last week, the New York Times and  Wall Street Journal revealed horrendous details about the direct involvement of UNRWA employees, teachers and others in the 7 October murders, rapes and kidnappings.
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On 2 July 2018, in a media release awash with diplo-jargon, Ms Bishop explained that, ‘Any assistance provided by the Palestine Liberation Organisation to those convicted of politically motivated violence is an affront to Australian values.’ In other words, we will not fund ‘pay for slay’. Commendably, in the 2020 Budget, the Coalition went even further, halving DFAT funding to UNRWA from $20 million to $10 million.

And so it remained until Labor won office in 2022, when, without any apparent hesitation, that reduction in funding was fully re-instated by Foreign Minister Penny Wong. Then, following the barbaric terror attacks of 7 October, Australian aid to the Palestinians was again further increased by many tens of millions with six million dollars earmarked specifically for UNRWA. After an outcry, Ms Wong made the ludicrous claim that she had told the Palestinians that the money must not be used to fund terror. What a joke.

Last week, the New York Times and  Wall Street Journal revealed horrendous details about the direct involvement of UNRWA employees, teachers and others in the 7 October murders, rapes and kidnappings. ‘UNRWA’s problem is not just “a few bad apples” involved in the 7 October massacre,’ a senior Israeli official said. ‘The institution as a whole is a haven for Hamas’ radical ideology.’ The intelligence reports cited claimed that nearly 50 per cent of all UNRWA employees had close relatives with official ties to Hamas or other militant outfits and one-in-four male employees took part in Hamas activities.

The following questions must be answered: What risk assessment did Penny Wong or her department undertake before she reinstated (and then increased) Australian aid to UNRWA and other Palestinian bodies? And: Who provided the advice to Penny Wong that DFAT’s and Julie Bishop’s determination  that Australian tax dollars risked being used to fund terror no longer applied in 2022?

If an individual provides funds to a terrorist organisation they go to jail. Penny Wong must resign, and those at DFAT or Home Affairs who failed in their duties to the taxpayer must resign too.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/02/penny-wong-must-resign/

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After an outcry, Ms Wong made the ludicrous claim that she had told the Palestinians that the money must not be used to fund terror.

;D

This must be what Phil was talking about.


philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 2:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 2:37pm: freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 2:01pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 8:37am: freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2024 at 8:34pm: https://www.dfat.gov.au/crisis-hub/hamas-israel-conflict#:~:text=Australia%20has%20listed%20Hamas%20as,organisations%2C%20either%20directly%20or%20indirectly. Quote: Australia has listed Hamas as a terrorist organisation, and it is also a designated entity subject to counter-terrorism financing sanctions under the Australian sanctions law. It is a criminal offence to fund listed terrorist organisations, either directly or indirectly. It is also a criminal offence for a person to provide or collect funds, where that person knows or is reckless to the fact that the funds will be used to facilitate or engage in a terrorist act. I wonder if the terrorists will get their hands on any of Penny Wong's 20 million dollars? The funding will be delivered through the U.N. and aid agencies like the Red Cross....The funding is for humanitarian aid only....HAMAS does not have access to the funds!!! ::) ::) ::) https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/further-humanitarian-assistance-occupied-palestinian-territories-and-region And yet the funds will still make it easier for Hamas to carry out terrorist attacks, and for the terrorist supporters to continue supporting them. How do you ensure that none of the funds end up with Hamas? It is not up to me to ensure anything....Do you have any evidence the U.N. or Red Cross are corrupt and working with HAMAS....Should Australia suspend all humanitarian aid based on your suspision these organizations are corrupt....Show me the evidence??? :-? :-? :-? You declared that Hamas does not have access to the funds. How do you know this? The funds were provided to the U.N. and Red Cross....Are they corrupt....Are you claiming the Australian Government and U.N. are working with HAMAS and are somehow funnelling funds to their terrorist effort....Do you have any evidence of what you are claiming mate??? :-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 2:49pm: It is the same dilemma faced be every multinational company and aid organisation - how do you do business in a corrupt country without becoming corrupt yourself? It is not as easy as you suggest to dismiss. For a lot of them the answer is simply, you don't. Unfortunately it doesn't work that well for aid organisations, as endemic corruption and the need for aid tend to go hand in hand. I do not need to prove anything to ask you to back up your assertion: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 8:37am: HAMAS does not have access to the funds!!! How do you know this? Is your argument that seeing something written on a piece of paper about who is sending the money into Gaza proves that Hamas does not get their hands on it? The money does not get sent to a bank account in Gaza FFS....The U.N. and Red Cross are provided with the funds to send truck loads of humanitarian aid into the camps they run inside Gaza....Should all humanitarian aid to Gaza be cut off FD??? :-? :-? :-?

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 12:34pm:

John, whose fault was it that you claimed the Palestinian people are illegally occupying Palestinian land? Yours or mine? philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2024 at 11:29am: freediver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 12:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 7:50am: freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2024 at 3:45pm: [quote]The money does not get sent to a bank account in Gaza FFS How do they pay for everything locally? Cash? You're just making this up as you go along, aren't you? [quote]The money does not get sent to a bank account in Gaza FFS....The U.N. and Red Cross are provided with the funds to send truck loads of humanitarian aid into the camps they run inside Gaza....Should all humanitarian aid to Gaza be cut off FD??? Are you serious or are you just trolling....What can Palastinians buy locally FD....Do you really believe the U.N. and Red Cross give cash to refugees to spend at the local Woollies....Do you believe the aid comes in the form of ammunition and weapons....Do you have any evidence the U.N or Red Cross are corrupt and supporting HAMAS FD....You're just making this up as you go along, aren't you....What good would cash be to refugees in Gaza FD??? ::) ::) ::) Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown Yes I am serious. I think you are extremely naïve about the ability of organisations to function in a corrupt society without becoming corrupt themselves.

Penny Wong won't go to Gaol.
BECAUSE

Australians are too lazy to do anything about it directly.
Too lazy. Simple as that.

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The IDF uncovered a giant subterranean data center used by Ham🫏 in a tunnel hidden underneath a UN agency's headquarters, guess which one! The answer may surprise you! Actually it won't. See 4th picture. https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1756367120932225372

UNRWA said they weren't aware Hamas had a base under their building. UNRWA were supplying this Hamas tunnel with electricity and internet.

UNRWA = Hamas in Gaza we should stop all foreign aid to Palestine.

Each death of an innocent Palestinian creates how many future Hamas fighters ?

The IDF tactic is self defeating and only ensures that the hostilities continue well into the future.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 11:29pm:

Each death of an innocent Palestinian creates how many future Hamas fighters ? The IDF tactic is self defeating and only ensures that the hostilities continue well into the future.

Islam creates Hamas fighters have you read the Hamas covenant? Did you comprehend what is written does it match their actions?

What does article 8 say?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1696934241

Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948.

Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis.

Israeli Jews don't do so well in combat with armed Palestinians.

Palestinians are so bad, they even shoot and blow themselves up in the process. That's terrorism for you.
...terrible isn't it. ;)

Dnarever wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 11:29pm:

Each death of an innocent Palestinian creates how many future Hamas fighters ? The IDF tactic is self defeating and only ensures that the hostilities continue well into the future.

What 'tactic' is that? And do you have a better one? Lay down and let the Muslims slaughter them?

To seek forgiveness for the complicity in the Israeli crimes against Palestinians.

Australia should publicly apologize to Palestinians.

The Moriori (of the Chatham Islands) took a 'peaceful' non-combative response to the Maori entering their islands. (The white whalers were already in an out, but no problem).
Eventually the Maori got their numbers up and brutally massacred the Moriori like placid dumb herbivores.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 8:54am:

To seek forgiveness for the complicity in the Israeli crimes against Palestinians. Australia should publicly apologize to Palestinians.

After Palestinians apologise for terrorism on 7 october and before, in Israel and across the world for 80 years.

All Palestinians are Terrorists.
Simple as that.

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Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant reveals that approximately 1,468 UNRWA workers are ‘part’ of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and 30 of them actively participated in the Oct. 7th massacre. He also published the identities of 12 of those terrorists, pictured above. https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1758782937061859644

The US has permanently suspended all aid to UNRWA we should do the same.

Our taxpayers shouldn't be funding Islamic terrorists.

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🇦🇺 @dfat Your official Marc Innes-Brown just told the Senate that members of the UNRWA Gaza Telegram group were not UNRWA staff. This is a total lie:  https://unwatch.org/unrwa-terrorgram/ He also falsely impugned our motives for exposing UNRWA's deep ties to terrorism. We demand he be fired. https://twitter.com/UNWatch/status/1758445951352549403

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AusPolMate Researched Threads & oddities @AusPolMate · Feb 16 UNRWA's  own documentation makes it clear Teachers are using Telegram. This became the standard platform during COVIDVery poor form Marc Innes-Brown and @dfat . Here is just one example of where this information can be found.https://google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=76bbf6d7e3e1f4739&q=https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/annex_c_-_tor.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiX3sXi5a-EAxU9TGwGHej4A10QFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3tP3Rd5t5fbpsKZ9UjHw94 https://twitter.com/AusPolMate/status/1758460062916657405

They should fire Marc Innes-Brown for telling lies

Dnarever wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 11:29pm:

Each death of an innocent Palestinian creates how many future Hamas fighters ? The IDF tactic is self defeating and only ensures that the hostilities continue well into the future.

Not a bad tactic. That way the US and the rest of the world keep throwing billions in arms and dollars at them

We should stop giving access to this Forum to John Smith the Houso.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 10:57pm:

Palestinians apply makeup for propaganda. Quote: Translated from Persian by Google Martyr and wounded production ceremony with tomato sauce in the Gaza Strip https://twitter.com/XkbarX/status/1713008999380156753

They've been doing this faking up propaganda for decades..... & the leftoid imbeciles lap it up.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2023 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2023 at 10:50pm: We give Palestine over $30 million a year in foreign aid. I doubt any of it comes from you, dear boy   ;)

It comes from anyone who pays tax.

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:38pm:

Once again, all of you have no real understanding of complexities of world politics, and its effect on humanity.   If you dont want to get involved in the middle east, then be prepared to pay alot higher prices.  The children dying in Palestine were not terrorists.   Develop some empathy and imagine just for one second, that you are the parent or grand parent of one of those children.

Neither do you.

They support Hamas & have put their children in the firing line by circumstance or deliberately to follow the ideology.

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:58pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 10:50pm: The Children of Palestine HAMAS were indeed Terrorists. From stone throwing to rejoicing in joy at the sight of Israeli hostages under duress. All captured on film chanting "Death to Jews". Those little Terrorists wanting to become big Terrorists one day. And what would you have done Jasin?  If your children, or your brother were all killed by bombs and tanks.  Will you just lay down and die?

So you're suggesting the Israelis should just lay down and die to appease those terrorist arseholes?

The Palestinians & HAMAS have hidden behind their women & children as human shields for decades.

That's why the terrorist tunnel network headquarters under hospitals, schools & kindergartens.

Hamas started this current conflict & Israel is determined to finish it.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 15^th, 2024 at 11:29pm:

Each death of an innocent Palestinian creates how many future Hamas fighters ? The IDF tactic is self defeating and only ensures that the hostilities continue well into the future.

Just like the juvenile crime wave we're now experiencing ...

all you lefties advocate is to do SFA & let it continue ...

the same as you are doing in regards to Hamas & it's terrorist activities.....

"ohhhh don't do that, don't retaliate you'll only make more terrorists"....

if Hamas & the Palestinian people don't want Israel to attack/bomb their hidey holes in GAZA then don't attack, kidnap & murder Israelis.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 12:29am:

Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948. Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis. Israeli Jews don't do so well in combat with armed Palestinians.

You're deluded.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 8:54am:

To seek forgiveness for the complicity in the Israeli crimes against Palestinians. Australia should publicly apologize to Palestinians.

The geographic location was once call Palestine - Gaza is not a country called Palestine , neither are the people Palestinians ..... just Arab muslim extremists. 

if you apply that logic then the Israelis are Palestinians too.  ;D

Gnads wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 11:53am:

if Hamas & the Palestinian people don't want Israel to attack/bomb their hidey holes in GAZA then don't attack, kidnap & murder Israelis.

Most Palestinians will only stop resisting, when Israel supports and implements UN res 242.

Gnads wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 11:55am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16th, 2024 at 12:29am: Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948. Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis. ... You're deluded.

How so?

The IDF is a terrorist organisation (no better than Hamas) and they are killing innocent men, women, and children.

This is not opinion - it is a fact.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 11:55am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16th, 2024 at 12:29am: Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948. Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis. ... You're deluded. How so? The IDF is a terrorist organisation (no better than Hamas) and they are killing innocent men, women, and children. This is not opinion - it is a fact.

this is true

by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival

the gaza car park is way behind on its construction date

one wonders if anastasia palashay is over seeing its construction

chop, chop israel.

you need to move the gazans out to their new home in the sinai ASAP

aquascoot wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival

and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::)

John Smith wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::)

Since 1948, all up some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel.

Over the past decade of civil war in Syria, Bashar al-Assad has managed to kill more than ten times that number. Although precise figures are hard to come by, Assad is reckoned to have murdered some 600,000 Arab Muslims in his country. Meaning that every six to 12 months he manages to kill the same number as died in every war involving Israel ever.

There are lots of reasons you might give to explain this: that people don’t care when Muslims kill Muslims; that people don’t care when Arabs kill Arabs; that they only care if Israel is involved. Allow me to give another example that is suggestive.

No one knows how many people have been killed in the war in Yemen in recent years. From 2015-2021 the UN estimated perhaps 377,000 – ten times the highest estimate of the recent death toll in Gaza. The only time I’ve heard people scream on British streets about Yemen has been after the Houthis started attacking British and American ships in the Red Sea and the deadbeat idiots on the streets of London started chanting: ‘Yemen, Yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around.’ Because like all leftists and Islamists there is no terrorist group these people can’t get a pash on, so long as that terrorist group is against us.
Douglas Murray

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:17pm:

Since 1948, all up some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel.

we're not talking about what happened since 1948.  Good to see you had to go back 70 yrs to make your point though  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:20pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:17pm: Since 1948, all up some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel. we're not talking about what happened since 1948.  Good to see you had to go back 70 yrs to make your point though  :D :D

That's for comparison. The point was the rest of the post, inconvenient for you so you ignored it.

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:20pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:17pm: Since 1948, all up some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel. we're not talking about what happened since 1948.  Good to see you had to go back 70 yrs to make your point though  :D :D That's for comparison. The point was the rest of the post, inconvenient for you so you ignored it.

What are you comparing? A terrorist is a terrorist, no matter how many they kill. That there are worse then Israel doesn't excuse what Israel has done in any way shape or form.

John Smith wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:23pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:20pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:17pm: Since 1948, all up some 60,000 people had died on every side in all wars involving Israel. we're not talking about what happened since 1948.  Good to see you had to go back 70 yrs to make your point though  :D :D That's for comparison. The point was the rest of the post, inconvenient for you so you ignored it. What are you comparing? A terrorist is a terrorist, no matter how many they kill. That there are worse then Israel doesn't excuse what Israel has done in any way shape or form.

You never carry on like this when Muslims murder ten times more other Muslims.
Why?

aquascoot wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 2:38pm: Gnads wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 11:55am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16th, 2024 at 12:29am: Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948. Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis. ... You're deluded. How so? The IDF is a terrorist organisation (no better than Hamas) and they are killing innocent men, women, and children. This is not opinion - it is a fact. this is true ...

Indeed.

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Gaza wartime TikTok trend shows what wonderful people  Gazans are - a man buys a street vendor's whole stock, gives it away to passersby. In this case, chilled water bottles sold for 2 shekels ($0.55) each. The catch? The water was humanitarian aid, should have be distributed free anyway. #TheGazaYouDontSee https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1762772953521930280

Why is aid that should be given for free being sold?

Are the UN and UNRWA totally corrupt?

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Israel Defense Forces @IDF "Over 450 @UNRWA employees are military operatives in terror groups in Gaza... This is no mere coincidence, this is systematic. There is no claiming: 'we didn't know.'" Watch the full statement by IDF Spokesperson RAdm. Daniel Hagari regarding UNRWA workers that were involved in the Oct. 7 massacre, and the kidnapping of innocent Israelis that are still held hostage by Hamas. https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1764954449955484133

Why are we giving taxpayers money to UNRWA who are infested with Islamic terrorists?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 11:55am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 16th, 2024 at 12:29am: Israel is a terrorist in the Middle East. Israel and Jews have murdered more than 100,000 Palestinians since 1948. Murdering unarmed, innocent women and children is a sport for Israelis. ... You're deluded. How so? The IDF is a terrorist organisation (no better than Hamas) and they are killing innocent men, women, and children. This is not opinion - it is a fact.

Not a "fact" at all ....it's a lie.

John Smith wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::)

Hamas - their own ... who constanly use them as human shields ... put them on the front line to hide behind.

You just keep eating your bowl of terrorist propaganda every morning for breakfast.

Admit it ... you're a closet Jew hater.

Gnads wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 9:08am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:13pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::) Hamas - their own ... who constanly use them as human shields ... put them on the front line to hide behind. You just keep eating your bowl of terrorist propaganda every morning for breakfast. Admit it ... you're a closet Jew hater.

I hate closet-Jews too.

John Smith wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::)

the israeli prime minister is answerable to the fine people of israel.

the gazans can take up any griping with their leadership...hamas

aquascoot wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:13pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::) the israeli prime minister is answerable to the fine people of israel. the gazans can take up any griping with their leadership...hamas

The only fine people in Israel are the 2 million Palestinians.

Moral, respectable Jews have already left the criminal state of Israel. The Jews left behind in Israel are not the best of the bunch.

I'd go one further

STOP THROWING OUR TAX DOLLARS AT ALL THE PARASITES IN EVERY COUNTRY,

Including Australia.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 12:32pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 5:13pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2024 at 3:29pm: by not eliminating the enemy (the population of gaza), innocent jewish teenagers were butchered at a music festival and the 6000 innocent Palestinians killed by israel in the 17 yrs prior to Oct 17? What about the over 70 kids abducted and taken over the border by isreali forces?  ::) the israeli prime minister is answerable to the fine people of israel. the gazans can take up any griping with their leadership...hamas The only fine people in Israel are the 2 million Palestinians. Moral, respectable Jews have already left the criminal state of Israel. The Jews left behind in Israel are not the best of the bunch.

a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza

aquascoot wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza

A lot of Jews have already been boxed up.

Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict.

Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF.

Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 7:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict.

The Pallys are winning the war in the bedroom -

multiplying like rabbits to overpower Israel.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict. The Pallys are winning the war in the bedroom - multiplying like rabbits to overpower Israel.

Jews are very busy vanquishing gentiles and turning gentiles into servants.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict. The Pallys are winning the war in the bedroom - multiplying like rabbits to overpower Israel.

They cannot even feed themselves. It has been a long time since cannon fodder won a war.

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:41pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict. The Pallys are winning the war in the bedroom - multiplying like rabbits to overpower Israel. They cannot even feed themselves. It has been a long time since cannon fodder won a war.

If the Palestinian women and children had been allowed to arm themselves there would be a lot more boxed IDF losers.

The Israelis have women in the armed forces. My guess is that it has nothing to do with whether the Palestinian women are "allowed" to. They don't because they are not as stupid as the men. It takes a particular dedication to stupidity to get yourself killed for a long lost, evil cause.

Everything that is occurring in Gaza today, the death, and the food shortages, and the suffering of the inhabitants of Gaza,
is   >> a gift <<   from Hamas [and ISLAM], to all of the inhabitants of Gaza.


The Israelis are fighting a war, which Hamas started.
.....and a war which Hamas wanted.



If Hamas wanted to end the present conflict they could......easily.

So easily.

But Hamas understands so well, that the present suffering of the inhabitants of Gaza,
is very bad PR, around the world, for Israel.

And it, is   >> a gift <<   to all devout followers of ISLAM worldwide, who themselves, may be seeking a 'legitimate' motive [excuse], to start a local conflict, from their own jurisdiction, against a local infidel enemy.

Israel, is between a rock and a hard place.



But the Gazan's chose Hamas.
.....so, let the Gazan's whine and suffer, and whine and suffer, and whine and suffer, ....and die.
.....or, let the Gazan's help Israel, to destroy the Hamas leadership.


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Followers of ISLAM........
.......are so happy to start religious conflicts.      [Allah states this fact, himself.......]

Wherever such religiously motivated conflicts [against local infidels], are started by devout followers of ISLAM,
these conflicts, in themselves encourage yet more devout followers of ISLAM, to start their own local conflicts.


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"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


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Fighting and killing is prescribed for moslems, it is obligatory....


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4.95 : Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of allah with their goods and their persons. allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath he distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-

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61.4 : Truly allah loves those who fight in his cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.

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22.58 : Those who leave their homes in the cause of allah, and are then slain or die,- On them will allah bestow verily a goodly provision: Truly allah is he who bestows the best provision

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9.39 : Unless ye go forth, he will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For allah hath power over all things

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8:74 Those who believed and left their homes and strove for the cause of allah, and those who took them in and helped them - these are the believers in truth. For them is pardon, and bountiful provision.

ISLAM, it is such a versatile faith.
/sarc off

Why are we giving money to the corrupt UNRWA?

We have given them over $52 million since this war started.


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“Just A Few Bad Apples”: 8,000 UNRWA Teachers Rallied for Hamas Terrorist to Head UNRWA Union I took the floor at the United Nations: “Mr. President, the Vienna Declaration protects the right to life. There is a mantra we hear from UNRWA and its supporters: that UNRWA does lifesaving work. Is this true? Well, we know at least 14 UNRWA employees took part in the Hamas atrocities of October 7th. Now, UNRWA defenders like Senator Chris van Hollen, AOC and Ken Roth, say, “Well it’s just a few bad apples.” Is this true? Well, we know that 450 UNRWA employees are Hamas and Islamic Jihad operatives. We know 3,000 UNRWA teachers were part of a Telegram chat group that celebrated the atrocities of October 7th. http://unwatch.org/unrwa-terrorgram/ And Mr. President, it’s much worse. In Sept. 2011, Suhail al-Hindi, chair of the UNRWA staff union in Gaza and principal of an UNRWA boys school, was suspended for his role with Hamas. He is a member of the Hamas politburo with Yahya Sinwar. What was the response? Did UNRWA staff express outrage that one of their peers, a school principal, was part of a terrorist group that openly aims to slaughter all Jews? No, Mr. President, the exact opposite: the entire UNRWA staff in Gaza, 8,000 teachers and school principals, went on strike for months to support this Hamas terrorist leader.  📸https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1771833500921987168 Their strike for Hamas shut down 243 schools, and abandoned 220,000 students. And so UNRWA reinstated him. This happens all the time. Last year, when we exposed UNRWA teacher Riyad Nimr for glorifying a massacre of Jewish worshippers in a synaogue, the entire UNRWA teachers union in Lebanon went on strike and parades to support him. http://unwatch.org/hamas-unrwa-staff-slam-suspension-of-teacher-who-promotes-terrorism/ Mr. President, is complicity with Hamas terrorism ‘life-saving work’?” https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1778211396070650042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778211396070650042%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

We should transfer our aid from Gazza to Jordan.

I believe our aid $$$ is used by Hamas and doesn’t see the starving citizens.

Nor do I totally trust Jordan but they seem the best out of a bad bunch .

It’s such a mess over there best action would be to stay the hell out of it!

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 20^th, 2024 at 11:36pm:

We should transfer our aid from Gazza to Jordan. I believe our aid $$$ is used by Hamas and doesn’t see the starving citizens. Nor do I totally trust Jordan but they seem the best out of a bad bunch . It’s such a mess over there best action would be to stay the hell out of it!

We're broke why are we borrowing money that has to be repaid with interest to give it away.

All foreign aid with the exception of disaster relief must stop.

Only 1 party has this policy.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 7:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict.

More confirmation of your support for terrorists.

They've always outnumbered the Jews you idiot.

Thing is ... the Israelis wage war far better and have been kicking extremist terrorists arse for over 50 years.

More power to them.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:30pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:41pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:37pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 5:34pm: a few jews may leave israel but all the gazans will have to leave gaza A lot of Jews have already been boxed up. Each time there is armed conflict more Jews die than in the previous conflict. Hamas and Hezbollah are getting stronger and are better in armed combat than the IDF. Eventually, the Palestinians and their associates will greatly outnumber the Jews. The demographic bomb could spell the end to the conflict. The Pallys are winning the war in the bedroom - multiplying like rabbits to overpower Israel. They cannot even feed themselves. It has been a long time since cannon fodder won a war. If the Palestinian women and children had been allowed to arm themselves there would be a lot more boxed IDF losers.

Typical - you have the same mindset as an Hamas terrorist...you have no compunction about killing women and children .... something Hamas has been doing to their own for decades ...

hiding behind them and using them for cannon fodder and propaganda.

Low life scum is what they and you are.

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 20^th, 2024 at 11:36pm:

We should transfer our aid from Gazza to Jordan. I believe our aid $$$ is used by Hamas and doesn’t see the starving citizens. Nor do I totally trust Jordan but they seem the best out of a bad bunch . It’s such a mess over there best action would be to stay the hell out of it!

Jordan is as complicit in wanting Israel and Israelis gone from the region.

If they were the best of a bad bunch why aren't they saying to the Gazans ... come live here??

Jordan did help Israel in shooting down incomings from Iran.
Jordan is a strange country - probably going for a Switzerland status in the Levant?

Jasin wrote on Apr 21^st, 2024 at 9:51am:

Jordan did help Israel in shooting down incomings from Iran. Jordan is a strange country - probably going for a Switzerland status in the Levant?

There were missiles entering their airspace. I think it that scenario you shoot first and ask questions later.

What's surprising is that they have the military tech to do this.

As with everything in the Middle East it’s complicated and all related to history.

I happily admit I have very limited knowledge on the subject.

My understanding is that after the 6 day war Jordan accepted a huge amount of Palestinian refugees and actually assisted with rearming the PLO and and supported raids into Israel by the PLO.

In return the Palestinians attempted to overthrow the king of Jordan and take control of the country.

This didn’t succeed and eventually the Palestinian people were driven out of jordan.

While I believe it’s correct no Arab country wants to solve Israel problem with Palestinians I also believe they are very weary of Palestinians entering en mass for fear of being overthrown by them.

I’m no expert and happy to read others opinions on the issue.

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2024 at 12:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 9:51am: Jordan did help Israel in shooting down incomings from Iran. Jordan is a strange country - probably going for a Switzerland status in the Levant? There were missiles entering their airspace. I think it that scenario you shoot first and ask questions later. What's surprising is that they have the military tech to do this.

Jordan has around 70 F16 fighter jets.
Last year the US gave them Patriot missile defence.

When the Islamic state burned the Jordanian F16 pilot alive the King responded by executing all Islamic state prisoners.

Abu Musab al Zarqawi was a Jordanian terrorist and Al Qaeda leader in Iraq.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2024 at 12:52pm:

As with everything in the Middle East it’s complicated and all related to history. I happily admit I have very limited knowledge on the subject. My understanding is that after the 6 day war Jordan accepted a huge amount of Palestinian refugees and actually assisted with rearming the PLO and and supported raids into Israel by the PLO. In return the Palestinians attempted to overthrow the king of Jordan and take control of the country. This didn’t succeed and eventually the Palestinian people were driven out of jordan. I’m no expert and happy to read others opinions on the issue.

Jordan fought a civil war with the PLO.

I see this wiki page has been edited to remove the part with Jordan shelling Palestinian refugee camps and changed to surrounded and targeted.
Wiki is turning into crap it will give you something to read and think about.

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Jordan allowed the fedayeen to relocate to Lebanon via Syria, where they later became involved in the Lebanese Civil War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

This Lebanese lady talks about the civil war in Lebanon.
https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1712280627821650015
https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1712562125238124849

There is a fair amount of butthurt at present due to the fact Jordan shot down attack from Iran many muslims are saying the King has to go for taking sides with Israel.
They don't mind using force to overthrow leaders they dislike.

Have a read of wiki on Black September listen to Brigitte then when you learn about Islam you will start to understand why poo always happens in the Middle east.

Once upon a time our immigration stopped those people coming here so we wouldn't have those problems yet our politicians decided we needed this cultural enrichment.

The 2000 visas Penny Wong gave to Gazans have become applications for asylum so they get medicare,centrelink and dept of housing what could go wrong.
Gaza had over 50% unemployment they were obese from living on foreign aid thanks to Labor we have just imported a shitload of freeloaders.

Jordan kicked out the Palestinians after Black September


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Palestinian insurgency in South Lebanon The Palestinian insurgency in South Lebanon was a multi-sided armed conflict initiated by Palestinian militants against Israel in 1968 and against Lebanese Christian militias in the mid-1970s. It served as a major catalyst for the outbreak of the Lebanese Civil War in 1975. Fighting between the Palestinians and the Christian militias lasted until the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, which led to the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) from Lebanese territory. Lebanese inability to expel Palestinian fighters The unarmed citizenry could not expel the armed foreigners, while the Lebanese army was too weak militarily and politically. More here- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_insurgency_in_South_Lebanon

The Palestinians started the civil war in Lebanon it was Israel who helped the christians against the muslims.

Amal Clooney a Lebanese human rights lawyer is being criticised by the ignorant jew haters for not commenting on Israel-Gaza-Hezbollah -Syria and Iran.

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... and cease all aid to terrorist state Israel.

More lies from Bvr. Phalangists were terrorists financed and armed by Israel.

Wikipedia:


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The beginning of the civil war is typically dated to April 13, 1975, when the Phalangists attacked a bus taking Palestinians to a refugee camp at Tall al-Zaʿtar, Lebanon.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 11:09pm:

... and cease all aid to terrorist state Israel.

We don't give any aid to Israel ya dopey dickhead.

We have given over $50 million to Palestinians since Oct 7th when Hamas broke ceasefire.

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

I would like to donate Bvr and his ilk to Israel as a test dummies for torture practice.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 12:27am:

I would like to donate Bvr and his ilk to Israel as a test dummies for torture practice.

You first clown.

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Head of UNRWA just  admitted that all their aid goes to Hamas, which then sells it to the people and makes huge profits on this “aid”

“Food is available in the markets, but there is no cash”

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Visegrád 24 @visegrad24 BREAKING: Israel releases videos showing Hamas terrorists using UN vehicles and an UNRWA logistics compound in Eastern Rafah. This is located just a few hundred meters away from Israeli soldiers. The video was recorded on Saturday. https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1790475110899712231

Our aid goes to UNRWA who are infected with Hamas terrorists.

We shouldn't be funding terrorists with Australian taxpayers money.

blip

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Baronvonrort wrote on May 5^th, 2024 at 12:30am:

Head of UNRWA just  admitted that all their aid goes to Hamas, which then sells it to the people and makes huge profits on this “aid” “Food is available in the markets, but there is no cash”

LOL. Now the UN wants to drop cash from helicopters. Maybe soon they will sound like the NRA and demand we drop guns and ammos so they can defend themselves from Hamas.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 19^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Quote: Visegrád 24 @visegrad24 BREAKING: Israel releases videos showing Hamas terrorists using UN vehicles and an UNRWA logistics compound in Eastern Rafah. This is located just a few hundred meters away from Israeli soldiers. The video was recorded on Saturday. https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1790475110899712231 Our aid goes to UNRWA who are infected with Hamas terrorists. We shouldn't be funding terrorists with Australian taxpayers money.

I agree, 100%

But that position/view among all Australians would be in the minority, would be my guess.


Q.
Why is it so, so difficult, for reasoning human beings [in our community/nation],
to see what type of 'culture' [of violence], our tax dollars are supporting,
and thereby encouraging ?

They [we] refuse, to engage in discrimination, between good and evil.



e.g.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihadist-intimidation-and-thuggery

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/sharia


PLUS.......
TheReligionofPeace
[lots of updated information on ISLAMIC violence worldwide]
https://thereligionofpeace.com/


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KJV
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."


KJV
"My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:

......Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;"




Seeking to discriminate......between what is good, and what is evil,
is not a bad thing.

But many today, are convinced, that to do so, is immoral.

What darkness, envelopes us.

freediver wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 7:18am:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 5th, 2024 at 12:30am: Head of UNRWA just  admitted that all their aid goes to Hamas, which then sells it to the people and makes huge profits on this “aid” “Food is available in the markets, but there is no cash” LOL. Now the UN wants to drop cash from helicopters. Maybe soon they will sound like the NRA and demand we drop guns and ammos so they can defend themselves from Hamas.

Where's dividie?  He'll soon put us right on the need for the UN and a single world power run and majority ruled by extremist and radical and totally one-sided persons from the same kind of cultures and countries.  Always wanted an African dictator or an ayatollah to order us about at his whim and by his laws.  Not to mention a single over-riding global law that will bring Hamas to heel instantly and stop the fighting ...... still waiting on the UN to send in the enforcers of this law ....

Lex sine dentibus nulla lex

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Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305

Baronvonrort wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 11:05pm:

Quote: Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305

More lies from the Israeli Jew propaganda bureau.

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 12:11am:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 11:05pm: Quote: Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305 More lies from the Israeli Jew propaganda bureau.

Piss off your terrorist supporting scum.

Gnads wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 12:17pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:11am: Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 11:05pm: Quote: Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305 More lies from the Israeli Jew propaganda bureau. Piss off your terrorist supporting scum.

I don't support terrorist state Israel.

Gnads, clean yourself, zip up and stop using yourself as a public latrine.

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:04pm:

Gnads wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 12:17pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:11am: Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 11:05pm: Quote: Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305 More lies from the Israeli Jew propaganda bureau. Piss off your terrorist supporting scum. I don't support terrorist state Israel. LTYC, clean yourself, zip up and stop using yourself as a public latrine.

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UNRWA school turned Hamas launch site: An anti-tank missile was fired from an UNRWA school toward our troops. IDF forces operated in a medical clinic nearby, when an explosive in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft detonated and killed 3 soldiers. During later scans in the school, we found large quantities of weapons. @UNRWA how long will you keep silent to grenades, weapons and tunnel shafts breaching the sanctity of children’s classrooms? https://x.com/IDF/status/1796168686379671940

The US has stopped all funding for UNRWA when are we going to stop giving these terrorist supporters our taxpayers money?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 11:47pm:

Quote: UNRWA school turned Hamas launch site: An anti-tank missile was fired from an UNRWA school toward our troops. IDF forces operated in a medical clinic nearby, when an explosive in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft detonated and killed 3 soldiers. During later scans in the school, we found large quantities of weapons. @UNRWA how long will you keep silent to grenades, weapons and tunnel shafts breaching the sanctity of children’s classrooms? https://x.com/IDF/status/1796168686379671940 The US has stopped all funding for UNRWA when are we going to stop giving these terrorist supporters our taxpayers money?

When Israeli Jews have taken over the Australian government.

or ...

When Bvr performs the Haj.

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:04pm:

Gnads wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 12:17pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 12:11am: Baronvonrort wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 11:05pm: Quote: Nioh Berg ♛ ✡︎ אסתר @NiohBerg The bodies of the Israeli hostages were found inside an UNRWA building At this point just abolish the UN. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1793723619891364305 More lies from the Israeli Jew propaganda bureau. Piss off your terrorist supporting scum. I don't support terrorist state Israel. Gnads, clean yourself, zip up and stop using yourself as a public latrine.

The only one full of shyte here is you you anti-Semitic/Jew hating racist.

Shush, Gnads. Maybe climate change will come along and smack him out.

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Additional humanitarian assistance for Gaza 12 June 2024 Australia will provide an additional $10 million in humanitarian assistance to address urgent needs in Gaza. Since 7 October, Australia has committed $72.5 million in humanitarian assistance to address essential needs in Gaza and respond to the protracted refugee crisis in the region. https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/additional-humanitarian-assistance-gaza

$72.5 million of taxpayers money to reward Hamas terrorists for starting a war.

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“Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves”: Emirati-Palestinian Shouting Match at World Economic Forum Meeting in Riyadh A meeting between Secretary of State Antony Blinken and a group of Arab officials about a month ago flew off the rails after an unusual shouting match between the UAE foreign minister and a senior adviser to the Palestinian president, according to five sources with knowledge of the incident. The heated spat reflects skepticism over the Palestinian Authority’s planned reforms and disputes among Arab leaders, both of which could challenge the Biden administration’s efforts to forge a post-war strategy for Gaza. According to the sources, during the meeting al-Sheikh said the Palestinian Authority is conducting reforms and created a new government as the U.S. and Arab countries asked, but it isn’t getting enough political and financial support. Toward the end of the meeting the Emirati Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed pushed back and said he hasn’t seen any significant reform inside the Palestinian Authority, the sources said. According to two sources, the Emirati foreign minister then called the Palestinian leadership “Ali Baba and the forty thieves” and claimed senior officials in the Palestinian Authority are “useless” and therefore “replacing them with one another will only lead to the same result.” “Why would the UAE give assistance to the Palestinian Authority without real reforms?” he asked. Tensions between the UAE and the Palestinian Authority stem from both personal and policy disputes and there has long been a rift between Emirati President Mohammed bin Zayed (MBZ) and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. The Emiratis on the other hand have for years accused Abbas and the Palestinian leadership of being corrupt. The Palestinian leadership accused the UAE of betraying them after the Emiratis normalized relations with Israel in 2020. https://www.gulf-insider.com/ali-baba-and-the-40-thieves-emirati-palestinian-shouting-match-at-world-economic-forum-meeting-in-riyadh/

:)

More bogus Israeli propaganda from Bvr.

Bvr swallows the propaganda and then regurgitates it.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 12:24am:

More bogus Israeli propaganda from Bvr. Bvr swallows the propaganda and then regurgitates it.

Aussie muslim says he would prefer a zionist bomb falling on his head to being supported by a degenerate poofter like you.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


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A muslim man has a message for #QueersforPalestine and #GaysForGaza https://x.com/TheHarrisSultan/status/1798508625952141663

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 12:07am:

Quote: Additional humanitarian assistance for Gaza 12 June 2024 Australia will provide an additional $10 million in humanitarian assistance to address urgent needs in Gaza. Since 7 October, Australia has committed $72.5 million in humanitarian assistance to address essential needs in Gaza and respond to the protracted refugee crisis in the region. https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/additional-humanitarian-assistance-gaza $72.5 million of taxpayers money to reward Hamas terrorists for starting a war.

Penny Wong gives another $10 million of taxpayers money to Islamic terrorists taking it to $92.5 million since Hamas started this war on Oct 7th.

The leftards love Islamic terrorists


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Additional humanitarian assistance for Gaza and the West Bank 23 September 2024 Australia will provide an additional $10 million in response to the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the West Bank. https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/additional-humanitarian-assistance-gaza-and-west-bank

The Libertarian party have a sensible policy with foreign aid.
No foreign aid unless it's disaster relief.
Starting a war doesn't count for disaster relief.

We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine. But, we should never entertain the whingeing nature of the Israelis.

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 24^th, 2024 at 8:35pm:

We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine. But, we should never entertain the whingeing nature of the Israelis.

Well that's a lovely fence sitting, Bob each way kinda thing to say. How could you go wrong!

Well, that 30 million actually dont go to Palestine, its for the organisations that works in Palestine.  And right now... there is not much help that can get through anyway. 

Furthermore, these 30 million dollars is to keep the other oil rich countries happy.   After all.. we ARE dependant on them with our petrol and diesel driven economy.   Sometimes, in this complicated, international world of politics, if you can buy better relationship, it is always a good thing. 

23 Apr 2024 — The Palestinian political faction Fatah charged on air that Hamas had deliberately killed aid workers, stolen aid and manufactured a food crisis in Gaza.

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Is it Palestine Islamic Jihad or Hamas who have taken over UNRWA facility?

Why are Australian taxpayers funding terrorists?

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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 24^th, 2024 at 8:35pm:

We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine. But, we should never entertain the whingeing nature of the Israelis.

Bloody whinged their way to the borders and isolated Hamas in a small enclave now.... useless ...

Actually it could possibly be a good thing if 1200 Rockie citizens were taken off the board and - well - nobody would kidnap 250 or so.... so I won't draw that comparison re 'whinging'.

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Visiting Ramallah in the West Bank, Luxembourg’s Foreign Minister Xavier Bettel asks UNRWA representatives why their textbooks for Palestinian school kids are full of antisemitism and terrorism glorification. He holds one of the books in his hands but get no response from UNRWA https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1872767529778893281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1872767529778893281%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Our tax dollars being wasted by UNRWA

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WATCH⚡️ UN Is a total Joke. REPORTER: "Who are the 'armed actors' that seized the UNRWA facility in Jenin?" UN: "I'll have to get back to you." REPORTER: "Why did it take the UN four days to put out a statement about it, whereas you reflexively condemn Israel within 30 seconds of any incident?" UN: "I’ll refer you to UNRWA." https://x.com/Osint613/status/1871562422219092345

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 24^th, 2024 at 8:35pm:

We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine. But, we should never entertain the whingeing nature of the Israelis.

::) And why wouldn't they have a right to whinge?

Always under attack on 2 fronts from terrorist Hamas & Hezbollah ..... thousands of rockets fired into Israel before Oct 7th .... and since.

The foreign aid sent to Gaza (Palestinians) gets hijacked by Hamas. If aid workers don't give them what the want they kill them.

This woman - a Muslim - Islam Hejazy was riddled with bullets by multiple gunmen for not giving them aid money.


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Palestinian gunmen in the Gaza Strip shot and killed an aid worker from a US-based charity, firing on her car in what officials from the Hamas-run government told her family was a case of mistaken identity, Reuters reported Friday. However, anti-Hamas Palestinian activists cited by the Walla news site said that Hamas gunmen murdered her for refusing to turn over aid funds to the terror group. The car in which Islam Hejazy, Gaza program manager at HEAL Palestine, was traveling was intercepted on Thursday in the area of Khan Younis in the south of the enclave.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-gunmen-slay-female-aid-worker-in-gaza-in-volley-of-bullets/

"Palestinians" - aintcha sick of 'em?


Palestine Justice Movement @PalestineRising
Watch the brilliant conversation with Randa Abdelfattah and Jumana Bayeh
@RandaAFattah  and  @jumanabayeh    discussing their on going work to uncover the history of Arab and Muslim culture and political activism in "Australia"

Creating an archive is mainly an effort to centre Arab voices in "Australia"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeErbqhasAAmZe7?.jpg

https://x.com/PalestineRising/status/1864819479424970779


Why aren't they back in "Palestine"?

Last time Trump was POTUS he cut all funding to UNRWA.

Will he do the same this time?

Will Albo and Penny increase the amount of taxpayers money they will give terrorist supporters to make up for what America isn't going to pay?

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

We give Palestine over AU$30 million a year in foreign aid.

Perhaps a comparison to the US $17.9 billion
(that's $17,000 MILLION) given to Israel every year, might be timely ?

Since 1967 the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and the Golan Heights have been under Israeli military occupation (illegal military occupation according to international law and the United Nations)  

This has resulted in ALL foreign aid to these areas of Palestine under the control of the Israeli Government. 
This control - and strict limit on aid getting through was designed to keep every Palestinian man, woman and child permanently on the brink of malnutrition.
This arrangement was known unofficially - in Government circles - as the "Gaza diet"   

https://visualizingpalestine.org/visual/the-gaza-diet/

So if you are a hater of every Palestinian man, woman and child - you can sleep well at night, knowing most foreign aid - from Australia to Palestine - never makes the distance.


https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1145047


https://global.unitednations.entermediadb.net/assets/mediadb/services/module/asset/downloads/preset/Collections/Embargoed/05-02-2024_UNRWA_Gaza-01.jpg/image1170x530cropped.jpg


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buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 4:01pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2023 at 10:50pm: We give Palestine over AU$30 million a year in foreign aid. Perhaps a comparison to the US $17.9 billion (that's $17,000 MILLION) given to Israel every year, might be timely ? Since 1967 the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and the Golan Heights have been under Israeli military occupation (illegal military occupation according to international law and the United Nations)   This has resulted in ALL foreign aid to these areas of Palestine under the control of the Israeli Government.  This control - and strict limit on aid getting through was designed to keep every Palestinian man, woman and child permanently on the brink of malnutrition. This arrangement was known unofficially - in Government circles - as the "Gaza diet"    https://visualizingpalestine.org/visual/the-gaza-diet/ So if you are a hater of every Palestinian man, woman and child - you can sleep well at night, knowing most foreign aid - from Australia to Palestine - never makes the distance. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1145047 https://global.unitednations.entermediadb.net/assets/mediadb/services/module/asset/downloads/preset/Collections/Embargoed/05-02-2024_UNRWA_Gaza-01.jpg/image1170x530cropped.jpg .

So they WANT the colonizers' money?!   :o :o

Funny how these terrorists are always running out of food and medicine but never out of weapons and ammunition.  ::)

I find it unfunny how they are surrounded by some of the world’s richest countries but fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway?
But they happily beg/seek money from western nations who they despise and wish to destroy!

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:27pm:

... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway?

This question was covered in my first - and only - response

If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered

Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF



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...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023. Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance. Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-against-aid-workers#:~:text=The%20war%20in%20Gaza%20is,the%20Near%20East%20(UNRWA).

The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance


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An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says. Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-workers-systematically/103666184

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:37am:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:27pm: ... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway? This question was covered in my first - and only - response If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF Quote: ...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023. Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance. Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-against-aid-workers#:~:text=The%20war%20in%20Gaza%20is,the%20Near%20East%20(UNRWA). The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance [quote] An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says. Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-workers-systematically/103666184

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So where did Hamas get the money for miles of tunnels, rockets, weapons?

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 8:01am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:37am: Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 9:27pm: ... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway? This question was covered in my first - and only - response If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF Quote: ...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023. Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance. Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-against-aid-workers#:~:text=The%20war%20in%20Gaza%20is,the%20Near%20East%20(UNRWA). The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance [quote] An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says. Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-workers-systematically/103666184

So where did Hamas get the money for miles of tunnels, rockets, weapons?


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My obvious question is if Israel stops all movement out of Gaza how exactly did Albo manage to bring so many here and planning to bring millions more?

When time permits I will search out quotes of other Arab leaders explaining why they Will not help the Palestinian people.

Oh brother Arab, why do you torture them so?

Palestinian aid money at work:




The speed with which civilians found their uniforms, famine bounced back, and supplies became available for a military parade, weapons, and transportation is nothing short of a miracle. The miracle of the smoke and mirrors show that is Gaza.

https://x.com/Claire_V0ltaire/status/1883188592228565463

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.

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According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The Left support Terrorism. Simple as that.

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:27pm: We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war. They have already done some polling. Quote: According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

ISLAMOPHOBIA! tsk, tsk  ::) ::)

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:34pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:27pm: We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war. They have already done some polling. Quote: According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you.
Previous opposition:


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A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest. Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp. At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said. "That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

Those terrorist women and children wouldn't hesitate to murder a Israeli.

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:44pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:34pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:27pm: We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war. They have already done some polling. Quote: According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid. You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you. Previous opposition: [quote]A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest. Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp. At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said. "That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

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And?

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:03pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:53pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:44pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:34pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:27pm: We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war. They have already done some polling. Quote: According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid. You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you. Previous opposition: [quote]A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest. Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp. At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said. "That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

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All right I'll be frank

Who the bugger is silly enough to think you are going to have free and fair elections in Gaza.

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 4:03pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:53pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:44pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:34pm: freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2025 at 3:27pm: We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war. They have already done some polling. Quote: According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid. You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you. Previous opposition: [quote]A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest. Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp. At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said. "That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/ And?

All right I'll be frank

Who the bugger is silly enough to think you are going to have free and fair elections in Gaza.
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I am not suggesting we try to predict the future.