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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl Member Run Boards >> Coronavirus >> People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1683678712 Message started by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am

Title: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am

Yet everyone is out and about with no masks. Where are the hand sanitizer stations? Nowhere! And if they’re there there’s no hand sanitizer in them!

MSM isn’t reporting anything. Remember the days when the death toll was making headlines here? Now not even a mention.

Very recently I lost my Aunty because of Covid19.

She was fully jabbed and in her 60’s.

Why/what are we not being told? I just don’t understand 😔🥺😩

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:38am

Sorry to hear of the loss of your aunt, Lisa.

As to why this is happening? Well, in my (and many other peoples' opinion) the airlines, airports, travel agencies, tourism and universities (overseas students), other big businesses, etc. making money again is far more important than peoples' lives.

Especially when the majority of those dying are the elderly and people with medical issues - that way our government(s) can also save money by not having to pay for age pensions and medical care, etc.

The gradual removal of all Covid protections, starting with the removal of quarantine for international travellers and ending with the removal of mandatory masks in hospitals and other healthcare settings (because wearing masks is uncomfortable for the staff ::)) was calculated and deliberate.

I've said this before but I really do believe that in the early days of the pandemic Australia and other countries (reluctantly) closed their borders, had lockdowns and introduced quarantine and testing for international travellers in the hope that the pandemic would be over in a year. Or two at the most, like the original SARS 20 years ago.

When that didn't happen governments (no doubt under enormous pressure from the businesses listed above) finally gave up and we ended up with the failure that was "vaccines only then let it rip".

The media (and the pollies) have also played a big part in this disaster by going almost totally silent about Covid so the majority of the population think "it's over".

I'm going up to Belmont Forum in about an hour and I can almost guarantee not one single person there would know that 138 Australians died from Covid last week and 20,410 have died since that start of the pandemic (most of them in the past 12 or 18 months) and over 2,000 are in hospital right now if I asked them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Sorry to say your aunty most likely died from the jab and that's why the MSM won't talk about it because it's a typical lawyers trick to deny liability by avoiding scrutiny.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 3:45pm

You have no idea about the case of Larry’s aunt, Nails you needle phobic.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 3:45pm:

You have no idea about the case of Larry’s aunt, Nails you needle phobic.

Lisa's aunty was sacrificed so that Albert Bourla could upgrade his yacht from 40 ft to 100 ft. That's how these psychopaths operate :(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:09pm

a lot of urban folk sure do have a lot
of anxiety about dying.
a lot of them have probably never seen a dead body
they've probably never evern seen a dead pet body
its off to the vet and then run away.

this is very unatural

death is a very normal part of life.

when you get to your 60's , you need to make peace with that fact.

instead of death anxiety, you need to work on death acceptance.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:12pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 5:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 3:45pm:

You have no idea about the case of Larry’s aunt, Nails you needle phobic.

Lisa's aunty was sacrificed so that Albert Bourla could upgrade his yacht from 40 ft to 100 ft. That's how these psychopaths operate :(

You have NO IDEA of what caused that woman’s death. You are a simpleton afraid of a needle.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:14pm

I have seen three dead bodies. I don’t recommend viewing bodies—open casket etc. The person is gone, only a husk is left behind. I have seen two people, my parents, die.

I took my chihuahua and my terrier, when they were ill and beyond help, for the last merciful needle and I was petting them as they died.

You know nothing.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:15pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Yes - the Fauci/Chinese bio weapon has not done with us yet.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:32pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

70 pages of evidence to change your mind:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/1039#1039

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:10pm

But... but... Covid is over, isn't it?

Oh, wait...

https://twitter.com/LilliaMarcos/status/1655937418162483206

Quote:

Hello Arcturus? Syd school back to online learning and masking! Friend just sent me this from a Penrith fb group - note mentions pink eye…how is this sustainable?

Hope the masks are not too uncomfortable for the school staff like they apparently are for hospital and other healthcare workers these days. ::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

You're not playing with a full dick.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

You're not playing with a full dick.

You're gay.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:29pm

In all the crap in the Chinese Bioweapon thread in Fringe are two or three posts by me citing scientific papers showing the virus arose in the wet market.

This may not suit your political leanings but stiff cheddar: the only actual direct evidence shows that the virus arose in the wet market.

So did the “Spanish Flu” which arose in a wet market in Arkansas or Alabama.

Booby has no idea of science or the meaning of “evidence” or anything much.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:36pm

Carl D wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:10pm:

But... but... Covid is over, isn't it?

Oh, wait...

https://twitter.com/LilliaMarcos/status/1655937418162483206

Quote:

Hello Arcturus? Syd school back to online learning and masking! Friend just sent me this from a Penrith fb group - note mentions pink eye…how is this sustainable?

Hope the masks are not too uncomfortable for the school staff like they apparently are for hospital and other healthcare workers these days. ::)

Oops... 2 schools now.

https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1656232766319792128

:(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

...Very recently I lost my Aunty because of Covid19.

She was fully jabbed and in her 60’s...

Sorry to say your aunty most likely died from the jab and that's why the MSM won't talk about it because it's a typical lawyers trick to deny liability by avoiding scrutiny...

... Lisa's aunty was sacrificed so that Albert Bourla could upgrade his yacht from 40 ft to 100 ft.

Oh... sorry to see you've returned—only to post truly offensive
responses to Lisa. You should be ashamed of yourself mate.

And you need to apologise to Lisa,

—Just ignore him Lisa... he's an acknowledged ignoramus.

>:(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Interesting. In our little town, there’re hand sanitisers on
every store counter; in the post office and bank. Our local
Woolworths has an antiseptic paper wipes dispenser at the
entry for cleaning trolleys before using them, plus a hand
sanitiser station.

And if you need to keep up with the COVID statistics, you can
check out THIS Health Department site.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:45pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

...Very recently I lost my Aunty because of Covid19.

She was fully jabbed and in her 60’s...

It's you that should be appologizing geoff !!

Quote:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away.

This is the type of stuff the media won’t show you.

Costa Rica’s healthcare workers & school teachers were required to take two doses of the poison.

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:55pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Monk is missing a lot more cards than just the Joker. :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away...

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

LOL... a 28-second clip from Telegram!

This doesn't prove in any way, shape or form that the
teacher died from a COVID vaccination. In fact, in
Australia, there've been only 14 deaths possibly related
to a COVID vaccination from 63 million doses to more
than 19 million people.

I'm sorry to see you return after your very welcome
holiday from this site. There's been around 98% less
COVID bullshit posted here during the last few days.
Please feel free to extend your little absence—I'm sure
we'd all be more than happy for this.

::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away...

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

It proves you are a dead man walking geoff. When will your numbers come up ;)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

Anyone who relies on the MSM for truth, is a conspiracy theorist.

Listen to Tucker on twitter now that his chains have been unshackled.
What he says is spot on, yet at fox, he wasn't allowed to tell the whole truth.

It's time to expose the MSM for the mind control drug it projects.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:06pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away...

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

LOL... a 28-second clip from Telegram!

This doesn't prove in any way, shape or form that the
teacher died from a COVID vaccination. In fact, in
Australia, [highlight]there've been only 14 deaths [highlight]possibly related
to a COVID vaccination from 63 million doses to more
than 19 million people.

I'm sorry to see you return after your very welcome
holiday from this site. There's been around 98% less
COVID bullshit posted here during the last few days.
Please feel free to extend your little absence—I'm sure
we'd all be more than happy for this.

::)

there've been only 14 deaths ?

Do you have a link for that number - do you really believe that?

Natalie Boyce 21 - who died from the Moderna vax in March 2022.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:08pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away...

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

there've been only 14 deaths ?

Do you have a link for that number - do you really believe that?

Natalie Boyce 21 - who died from the Moderna vax in March 2022.

he believes what the Tell-Lies-Vision tells him :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:12pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

You could show some respect anyway ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:21pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:12pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

You could show some respect anyway ?

I am by not covering it up.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:54pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

There've been only 14 deaths ?

Do you have a link for that number - do you really believe that?

Natalie Boyce 21 - who died from the Moderna vax in March 2022.

Yes. Only 14 deaths here in Australia.

"Ms Boyce was the 14th death officially recognised by the
Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) as being linked to
COVID vaccines—and the only one Australia’s medicines
regulator has linked to either of the mRNA shots." [8 May 2023]

And 21,206,612 Australians have been vaccinated. [13 April 2023]

—All in all, a pretty good [sic] fatality rate for Australia. 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:12pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Sometimes people should show a little respect irrespective of the conspiracy theories they choose to believe.

You're assuming it's a conspiracy theory when it's not just because the MSM refuse to properly report it.

You could show some respect anyway ?

I am by not covering it up.

This is not what you are doing when you clearly can have no idea about this sad case.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:57pm

Carl D wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:38am:

We need to continue being watchful and careful. This Covid19 is still spreading AND killing us.

MSM has gone silent on this and people have concluded that must mean that everything is fine so we can all go back to normal. NOT SO!!

The latest on funerals here in Sydney is this: there’s a backlog on burying people BECAUSE people are dying of Covid19 and Covid19 associated illnesses so people are stuck in morgues for 2 weeks or longer. I had no idea things were this bad.

Now I know why our neighbour who died 4 weeks back wasn’t buried until after 14 days.

(I was trying to figure out why his funeral took a while but I didn’t know about the backlog as I wasn’t told).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:57am

Firstly, my sympathies to you, Lisa, for the loss of your relative. It has been quite a while since anyone I knew has died. It is difficult for me to empathise with many people who have lost family to a disease. However, it feels like the time is coming that I might be losing a relative soon.

On Monday, I visited my parents, as I do every week. But, this week, my father looked a bit worse for wear than usual. I have been seeing this for quite some time. Dad seems to be not interested in living for much longer. And I say that, as every time Mum and I bring up the topic of his health, he seems to just drift off into disinterested territory. Sometimes I feel like he is committing suicide by stealth.

Mum and Dad are both in their late 60s. Both are fully vaccinated. Both have suffered getting covid. However, Dad has never really recovered from his illness. Dad fell asleep in front of the television. Sometimes, I feel like that will be where Mum will discover him deceased. I get the feeling that if Mum and Dad get sick with covid again, it might be the last time for Dad.

I don't know why you don't find sanitisers in your shopping centres freely available. We still have sanitiser dispensers at the bottom of the escalators at the nearby Stockland shopping centre. Masks are voluntary. To use either sanitiser or masks is up to you. However, if your body is unable to handle a virus, I would suggest that it is up to you to take extra precautions with going out in public.

The unfortunate fact of life is that some people have immune systems that are weak enough that they could die from the common cold. Someone in their 60s can have conditions that they have developed that would lead to them dying from a virus that 99.9% of sufferers manage to recover from.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:59am

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Sorry to say your aunty most likely died from the jab and that's why the MSM won't talk about it because it's a typical lawyers trick to deny liability by avoiding scrutiny.

Hopefully, you keep your views like this posted anonymously on forums. Otherwise, you might end up dying from a different type of jab, if you spoke like that to the wrong person.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:24am

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:59pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Raw Footage: High school teacher in Costa Rica suffers a sudden cardiac arrest whilst in class and ends up passing away...

https://t.me/covidbc/11309

you COULD be correct that its only 14 but its impossible to be sure.

a few facts

you have no idea how much spike protein an individual will make after having an mrna vaccine.

some will make a bit, some a lot.

it depends on how much the mrna spreads in their system.

if they make a lot , then we know spike protein is inflamatory (this is the mechanism of myocarditis).

if this inflames and weakens the heart, maybe they have a heart attack 6 months after the vaccine, maybe a year, maybe they die 10 years later but 10 years earlier then they should have.

we simply have no idea.

the studies havent been done and teasing out what excess deaths are due to covid and what are due to the vaccine will take years .

and will there be any incentive to do it?

definitely not.

that would be the most likely reason the MSM and governments have gone radio silent.

there is a possibility (even if small) that the vaccines are responsible for the rise in all cause mortality (which seems to be mainly cardiac).

is it covid that is weakening the system or the vaccine.

if they were to investigate and find out it was the vaccine, imagine the consequence (especially as it was forced AND pfizer have total immunity).

that question will never be asked and never be answered.

they wont ask a question they do NOT want the answer to.

sir nail needs to tone it down 100,000 % but the pretext of his arguement has in no way been settled.

germany and switzerland have all but banned the vaccine.
there is no advice now to get booosters.

things are going on behind the scenes and governments will not tell you what they are but their silence should tell you something

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:31am

Yes. Not wise to overload a system with 'immune boosters' if they are not needed.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:36am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:57am:

Yes. There’s so much to consider and reflect upon in your post.

I just recalled something about Covid19: Didn’t they tell us that Covid19 loves the cold?

Winter is coming ....I say we do our due diligence and wear masks when outside (not in our gardens of course but when shopping etc) AND we carry our own hand sanitizer.

That way we can protect ourselves from ANY flu or virus (not just Covid19) AND keep germs away to the best of our ability.

We owe it to ourselves to stay healthy and out of hospitals and their morgues.

Edit : Thank you for your condolences UnSub - I must admit I’m not quite myself these days. I feel so silly crying over my Aunty who’s escaped this hell hole and is now in Heaven. I should be happy for her. Yet here I am ... just heartbroken. I’ve never been able to make sense of grief 😩🥺😔

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:54am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:59am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

Sorry to say your aunty most likely died from the jab and that's why the MSM won't talk about it because it's a typical lawyers trick to deny liability by avoiding scrutiny.

Hopefully, you keep your views like this posted anonymously on forums. Otherwise, you might end up dying from a different type of jab, if you spoke like that to the wrong person.

I really meant to say that it should have been carl and geoff that carcked it and not her aunty. It seems that bad people aren't affected by the jab because I know a few bad arses and they just keep doing bad sh.t to others the bastards. I keep saying when is it going to take its course ?? Good thing that the lawyers have been jabbed up and they are on a time clock. Poetic justice is install for them ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2023 at 10:53am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:36am:

I just recalled something about Covid19: Didn’t they tell us that Covid19 loves the cold?

Covid "loves" any time of the year, Lisa. It isn't just like the flu and never has been. When you see Covid being referred to as "seasonal" it actually means "all 4 seasons".

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:54am:

I'm glad you cleared that up for us, Sir Nail.

Just checking to see if I've got this right - you hoped that Geoff and I "carcked it" after having our Covid vaccines and we're "bad people" because we decided to get vaccinated against a dangerous virus that isn't showing any signs of going away anytime soon.

OK, got it. Thanks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:01pm

Carl D wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:36am:

I just recalled something about Covid19: Didn’t they tell us that Covid19 loves the cold?

yes you are bad because you are encouraging other people to compromise their own health and safety by injecting themselves with experimental poisons that achieve nothing else other than self harm.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:33pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Give this bloke a milky way.
When playing arsehole, you use all the cards.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:34pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

yes you are bad because you are encouraging other people to compromise their own health and safety by injecting themselves with experimental poisons that achieve nothing else other than self harm.

What does the Jonestown 'massacre' have to do with the Covid vaccines, Sir Nail?

Or any vaccines, for that matter?

I asked this same question after you posted that picture a few months back but I didn't get an answer (except maybe another meme or abuse), of course.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 11^th, 2023 at 1:01pm

Carl D wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

yes you are bad because you are encouraging other people to compromise their own health and safety by injecting themselves with experimental poisons that achieve nothing else other than self harm.

They all took the poison for the wrong reasons carl :(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:08pm

Captain Caveman wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Give this bloke a milky way.
When playing arsehole, you use all the cards.

52 cards in arsehole. I am not surprised you know the game. You are likely an arsehole master.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:36am:

I just recalled something about Covid19: Didn’t they tell us that Covid19 loves the cold?

That was the reason that Trump said it would magically go away when it got warm but it didn't.

It is less infectious in the warm but it does not go away. They originally hoped that it would behave like the flu not realising the difference that the much higher R0 would make. Because it is much more contagious it does not diminish with the heat to the level where it appears to go away like the flu virus does.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:36am:

Last year, I was given free RAT kits, included when I went to get my medication. I would test myself every week. Negative each time. I think we might be getting that sort of test kits handed out to health care card holders for this winter period.

I don't think it is a matter of covid viruses loving the cold. But, the virus spreads when people are indoors together. During the winter, we tend to huddle together.

My house is in such a state of mess right now. I have not carpet swept this house for over a year. You can imagine the build up of dirt on the carpet right now. My kitchen, although it gets swept occasionally, has not been thoroughly mopped in a while. And I don't mean a quick mop, either. I mean, the sections around the fridge, stove and counters need a decent scrubbing to rid the mouldy-looking linoleum. No wonder I have been sick with a cough, lately.

Only last month did I finish my first bottle of hand sanitiser. Those little bottles, I mean, that I got back in the year 2020. My Dettol bottle has been sitting in my car for the last 2 years. I only use it when I think I have been around people who are sick. And we in Rockhampton are not having an epidemic of sick people at the moment.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:54am:

Your immune system might be okay at the moment. But vaccinations give the body's immune system a bit of training in coping with a similar disease. You might not think that you need a vaccination. But, please stay home if you are requiring medical attention regarding having a virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 12:09am

"It turns out that if you stop reporting the data there is no pandemic. Who knew?"

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1656614454493061121

"Best to stop before the winter onslaught."

Sure looks like it.

And I'm also sure the rest of the States and Territories will follow suit very soon.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 12^th, 2023 at 12:49am

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:54am:

What a load of absolute bullshit. I'm beginning to think that you're
simply trolling this forum with the amount of your time you spend
here. You really need to get out a bit more mate, and see some
more of the real world as it is. You appear to be living in some sort
of internalised fantasy world—virtually nothing you post makes any
sense, and seems to defy common logic.

I have no idea as to why you're so personally afraid of the truth,
and consistently call other people liars. I can only assume you
carry some sort of psychological deficit?

You've not once posted any viable evidence or accredited links to
support the veritable tsunami of total nonsense that you've littered
this site with. Your entire "campaign" has been one of disinformation,
fabrication, deception, misrepresentation, blatant lies, and puerile
insults.

In all my years on the interwebs, I can't say I've ever come across
an individual who exhibits the bizarre mental characteristics as do you.
Which—against my better nature—is beginning to make me feel
genuinely sorry for you Sir Lastnail.

BTW, To voice an opinion that you wish someone dead,
be it Lisa's aunty, me or Carl is beyond the pale.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2023 at 6:09am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 9:54am:

thats true for things like tetanus rocky.

the tetanus that killed so many in the trenches in WW1 would respond to EXACTLY the same vaccine today as 100 yrs ago.

but the respiratory viruses ( thank god these usually dont kill) change constantly.

so you might be amping up your immune response against the wrong thing.

certainly you dont need 5 tetanus vaccines, only to then catch tetanus .

the fluvax changes every year and even then is usually about 50 % effective.

by all means have a vaccine or two, but your safest option is still one of "personal responsibility"

the virus doesnt really wipe out the healthy.

it picks on the diseased

nearly every disease australians have are , in the main, due to poor lifestyle choices, poor diet, smoking , drinking and inadequate exercise.

that is so easy to remedy if people had a little self discipline

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 12^th, 2023 at 6:57am

Dnarever wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Give this bloke a milky way.
When playing arsehole, you use all the cards.

52 cards in arsehole. I am not surprised you know the game. You are likely an arsehole master.

Yes, well you do need friends to play the game, so I'm not surprised you havent a clue.

The arsehole master is called the President.
See if you can round up some strangers in the nursing home and have a game.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 7:30am

Paging aquascoot's hero Dr. Gerrard (with the double r).

Hello... anyone there?

https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1656614299362816000

Quote:

"XBB subvariant explodes among Queensland COVID cases"

🔹XBB subvariants made up 62% of new COVID cases

‘Heavy’ winter is coming: XBB subvariant explodes among Qld COVID cases

Quote:

A new Omicron subvariant has taken over Queensland cases of COVID, with XBB making up almost two-thirds of new cases, as the state prepares for a “heavy winter” of coronavirus, flu and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV).

Quote:

“I think we will see a heavy winter of all three viruses, really, of COVID, of influenza and RSV, that’s certainly what happened in the northern hemisphere winter last year,” Hajkowicz said.

“They had a very big, early flu and RSV season and still a large amount of COVID transmission as well.

“I can’t see any reason why we’d be different in Australia.”

No, of course not. It is absolutely beyond comprehension to me that we threw away the safe and Covid (and flu) free Australia that we had for 2 years and now we have to deal with all of this BS (with the sickness, hospitalisations and deaths that come with it) just for the sake of travel, tourism, international students, etc., etc., etc.

https://twitter.com/Rosex77388548/status/1656619421081944064

Quote:

The perfect time to stop reporting.

Yes... very convenient, isn't it?

https://twitter.com/adzz75/status/1656630420799373312

Quote:

They're dropping like flies in my area, wait, didn't everyone have rich hybrid immunity???

Nope, doesn't look like it.

aqua? Dr. Gerrard? (aqua can 'channel' Dr. Gerrard if he wants to - just like he seems to have done here a few times in the past).

Any comments? ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2023 at 7:38am

I was in RPH again yesterday.

Less than 10% of people wearing masks - including the staff.

Crazy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 7:52am

Absolutely unbelievable isn't it Greg?

I have noticed a few more people than usual wearing masks at Belmont Forum the past week or two (possibly due to a couple of the few and far between mentions of Covid and the flu in the paper recently) but going on past experience it doesn't last long.

People become complacent and start thinking "oh, everything must be OK again because I haven't seen anything in the news lately" and most of the masks come off once more.

I even have to remind my elderly aunt occasionally when we're shopping and she sometimes says "no one else seems to be wearing masks anymore". I'm sort of relieved when we do see others wearing them so I can say to her "see, we're not the only ones trying to stay safe".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 10:18am

And while our resident antivaxxers keep carrying on about the vaccines...

115 deaths reported just for NSW and Victoria this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Other States and Territories still to report.

Except maybe Queensland which may not report at all. Maybe they've finally achieved that mythical "hybrid immunity" Dr. Gerrard was telling everyone about early last year. ::)

Meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1656664665366368256

Quote:

The Big Covid Cover Up 🚩

Aust is moving:

1) FROM: Let Covid Rip

2) TO: Let's Hide Covid

Evidence

-NSW: Scraps weekly age & gender breakdown for hosp/ICU cases & C19 deaths

-QLD ceases weekly C19 data

-VIC leaks changes

-Aust DoH does not provide tabled deaths or Vax %

We're being slowly 'conditioned' to forget that Covid even exists despite the rising case numbers and deaths.

Hard to follow aquascoot's "advice" about using "personal responsibility" when the population is getting close to being given ZERO information about how to exercise this "personal responsibility".

Working and spending, kept in the dark and fed on BS (and getting constantly sick with Covid and the flu) - exactly the way our pollies and big business like their populations.

Especially if it's mostly the elderly and people with health issues being 'culled', saves money on pensions and healthcare costs as I've said many times before.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm

You are correct Carl

You have no reason to be angry at the anti-vaxxers
They have absolutely nothing to do with the 113 deaths
Anyone who wants to can have a vaccine anytime they like

So don't be mad at the anti-vaxxers maybe be mad at the ineffective vaccine

With regards to personal responsibility that is simple

Don't smoke or drink
Do at least half an hour of cardiovascular exercise everyday
Give up processed carbohydrates and sugars
Wake up early in the morning to reset your body clock and make sure you practise good sleep hygiene
Maybe take some vitamin d

Remember that hospitals are part of the disease care system
And gyms are part of the healthcare system

Your ambition should be to stay away from the disease care system

As an analogy look at dentistry
If you are constantly at the dentist is that a sign your teeth are healthier then someone who never has to go
Your AIM should be to take personal responsibility and keep your oral hygiene excellent so that you never have to go anywhere near dentist

This simple analogy is also applicable to your health

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 5:06pm

147 Covid deaths reported this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Covid Live has case but no death numbers from Queensland because they're "not telling us". Nothing from Tasmania this week either (they're always last to report every week).

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1656903104867233792

Quote:

Last week there were

12 deaths, and

321 hospitalised

In Queensland

This week @AnnastaciaMP
doesn’t want her citizens to know how bad things are

so she’s stopped all CVID reporting

This is criminally negligent and an attack on democracy

Quote:

Lesley Daniels 🦘🐨
@LesleyDaniels
·
56m
They can see the trend is upward and want to hide it and hope that most don’t notice.

Yes.

https://twitter.com/dbRaevn/status/1656897975057281032

Quote:

We currently have no way of knowing how many covid deaths were reported in the last week in Queensland.

And so it begins... one State at a time.

Quote:

Hannah Hall
@Hannah1imagine
·
1h
that is criminal

Quote:

priscilla goulding
@pgoulding29
·
30m
As a Queenslander I can’t even begin to describe how disgusted I am. I wonder whose not so bright idea that was? We are supposed to be a democratic nation living with a government we can trust to be transparent. It’s appalling and obscenely insulting. Wish I could emigrate.

I wonder how much aquascoot's hero Dr. "I always look like I'm constipated" Gerrard had to do with this?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 12^th, 2023 at 11:26pm

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

You are correct Carl

You have no reason to be angry at the anti-vaxxers
They have absolutely nothing to do with the 113 deaths...

Indirectly, of course "the anti-vaxxers" do have a lot to do with
the COVID death rate. They've been preaching for three years
now that the vaccines are dangerous, have killed thousands of
people, and are a plot by the government to reduce the population.
All three claims are of course nonsensical, and with no evidence.

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

So don't be mad at the anti-vaxxers maybe be mad at the ineffective vaccine...

The vaccines are not and never have been "ineffective". This claim
is nothing more than yet another load of bullshit from the anti-vaxxers.
Based on official reported COVID deaths, we estimated that vaccinations
prevented 14·4 million deaths in 185 countries and territories between
December 2020, and December 2021.
[The Lancet, Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination, 23 June 2022.]

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Don't smoke or drink
Do at least half an hour of cardiovascular exercise everyday
Give up processed carbohydrates and sugars
Wake up early in the morning to reset your body clock and make sure you practise good sleep hygiene
Maybe take some vitamin d

All good advice Aqua. But... none of these things is any guarantee
against being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Consider the
the dozens of top athletes in prime physical condition who contracted COVID.

Being supremely healthy does not trump a viral infection.

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Remember that hospitals are part of the disease care system...

I know you've made this silly claim before, but it's still a groundless
one. You need to remember the millions of COVID patients that
recovered solely due to hospital care, and the thousands saved by
admission to an ICU.

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

As an analogy look at dentistry...

Inappropriate analogy. There is NO correlation between restorative
or preventative dentistry and viral-type infections. And in actuality,
we should all visit a dentist at least twice a year for a clean and descale,
particularly as we age—in order to prevent gum diseases such as
gingivitis.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2023 at 11:42pm

Go Tim !!!! (He's a virologist, by the way).

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1656900738868736002

Quote:

The time for being polite is coming to an end

Our Govt is killing us for money

If that doesn’t terrify you then you’re part of the problem

Agreed. 100%

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 13^th, 2023 at 12:06am

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 6:57am:

Dnarever wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Give this bloke a milky way.
When playing arsehole, you use all the cards.

52 cards in arsehole. I am not surprised you know the game. You are likely an arsehole master.

No President is an alternate name, you specified a different name. I would think in your version it would be Captain.

President uses 54 cards.

[quote]I'm not surprised you haven't a clue.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 13^th, 2023 at 9:25pm

Dnarever wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 12:06am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 6:57am:

Dnarever wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Booby saying someone other than him is not playing with a full deck—OH THE IRONY!

Is it still a full deck when you dispose of the jokers ?

Your deck is just 54 jokers.
Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap.

A deck where you could count all the cards.

The answer was yes, A full deck has 52 cards the jokers make 54.

Give this bloke a milky way.
When playing arsehole, you use all the cards.

52 cards in arsehole. I am not surprised you know the game. You are likely an arsehole master.

No President is an alternate name, you specified a different name. I would think in your version it would be Captain.

President uses 54 cards.

[quote]I'm not surprised you haven't a clue.

WTF are you on about?
Learn the game first, before you act like an expert.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 15^th, 2023 at 11:34pm

Here's the problem as I see it.

While we currently have the Federal government spending goodness know how much taxpayers' money on those "Top Up Your Protection" Covid vaccination ads on TV (which seem to have stopped for now) and then wondering why no one's bothering to do so while between 100 and 200 Australians are still dying from Covid every week with thousands in hospital they shouldn't really need to wonder too much when we see things like this on a regular basis nowadays:

The attached image is from today's The West Australian and it was written by Linda Reynolds, a Liberal Senator for WA.

I believe it is self explanatory.

I've also seen "Post Pandemic" and "Post COVID-19" used in the paper 2 or 3 times over the past several days as well (mostly in the Business pages, of course).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 15^th, 2023 at 11:42pm

A few people were quite surprised that Channel 10 actually mentioned the C word here:

https://twitter.com/silentanb/status/1658035968363098112

Quote:

Just re-watching MasterChef from last night as missed the first 5 mins last night. Just saw that half the contestants were away BC of COVID ripping through. This reminded me of the contestant in the previous episode saying she just had a sore throat & lost voice from screaming...

Quote:

So, MasterChef ep on right now, apparently they lost even more contestants to COVID between when last night's episode was filmed and tonight's. Interesting that they seem to be taking no precautions on screen (think was filmed in Jan?)

Quote:

Tal
@talveon
·
1h
It shocked me they actually said Covid

Probably because it was recorded earlier this year (January?) and... well.. the pandemic has ended since then, hasn't it?

Just ask Linda Reynolds, Liberal Senator for WA. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 16^th, 2023 at 12:33am

There it is again.

"post-COVID".

A Sydney chief executive has blasted those working from home as "selfish".

;D ;D ;D

Gee, Nicole... I wonder why so many workers would prefer to work from home and not get stuck in traffic jams twice a day, five days a week as well as having to pay for petrol and car maintenance (and tolls in Sydney and other Eastern States capitals) if they drive or pay for fares if they use public transport?

Not to mention the risk of being (repeatedly) infected with Covid and/or the flu every time they go into the city (especially if they use public transport).

I'm also pretty sure a lot of businesses will be happy not to pay the outrageous rents they get charged for office space in the city as well by having most or all of their staff working from home.

The only "selfish" ones are the greedy CBD office landlords who are losing rent money (oh, and the numerous CBD coffee shop owners too, of course).

::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 16^th, 2023 at 1:26am

I'm sure the smug Ms Duncan is in a position to say whatever she
likes about people working from home; I'm also sure she has a
company Mercedes or BMW to drive, and an undercover car
parking space next to the key-card-only lift.

The average Australian CEO salary is AU$417,128 plus an
average bonus of AU$304,462.

—Economic Research Institute, 15 May 2023.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 16^th, 2023 at 10:42pm

lol...

https://twitter.com/tandigi/status/1658393297533149184

Quote:

She might want to change her hashtag on her LinkedIn page.

#flexibleworking

;D

https://twitter.com/MGRANT65/status/1658409912723214338

Quote:

Her idea of flexibility is people working from two different office buildings her clients own

Yep.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 19^th, 2023 at 10:20am

OK, I'll keep updating this week's Covid numbers in this thread.

61 deaths for NSW.
28 deaths for Victoria.
2 deaths for the NT.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Queensland has stopped reporting deaths but it’s been suggested that the Queensland Covid death trend is running at around 57% of NSW, which would be 34.

(Reported) cases and hospitalisation numbers going up.

Other States and Territories still to report.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 19^th, 2023 at 11:27am

Carl D wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 10:20am:

OK, I'll keep updating this week's Covid numbers in this thread.

61 deaths for NSW.
28 deaths for Victoria.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Queensland have stopped reporting deaths but it’s been suggested that the Queensland Covid death trend is running at around 57% of NSW, which would be 34.

(Reported) cases and hospitalisation numbers going up.

Other States and Territories still to report.

Thanks Carl.

(I WAS about to start a topic requesting this).

I know for a fact that there’s something not right (here in Sydney).

Winter is more or less here and we’ve been told that Covid (in fact pretty much all flu viruses) loves the cold.

2 people (a neighbour and a relative) both died recently because of Covid19. Both were fully vaccinated too.

As I type ....people who are dying in Sydney are stuck in morgues waiting in a queue to be buried. Burials are taking place around 21 days after a person’s death.

Schools (not all) are closing down here in Sydney because of Covid19.

Note : By that I mean schools are open virtually ie students are required to stay home and continue studying online.

Even hospitals (not all) are in lockdown.

Note : By that I mean no visitors are allowed. Why? Covid19 is INSIDE the hospital itself. I recently tried to visit an Aunt who had a hysterectomy. I wasn’t allowed because of Covid19. I’m still waiting for the all clear.

So of course I’m left trying to scrounge whatever news I can find re Covid19 through MMM. All I’m discovering is deafening silence.

What am I to conclude?

Well ... I think (and I could be wrong of course)...the Cth Govt (the entity which ultimately controls information including what our media releases) has not given the green light on what may be aired wrt Covid19. Now whether that’s because more information is being collected/collated in order to establish a clear pattern and/or to prevent undue mass panic ...remains to be seen.

ALL I KNOW FOR A FACT IS THIS:

I’M NOT PREPARED TO WAIT FOR ANY GOVT TO CONFIRM WHAT I AM SEEING/EXPERIENCING. I HAVE COMMON SENSE AND THAT IS WHAT IS GUIDING ME TO CONDUCT MY DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE I DON’T END UP IN ANY HOSPITAL OR MORGUE.

My pro - active measures include :

* Masks must be worn in public (not at home or in our front or back yard of course ... or in our car).
* Hand sanitiser must be in my handbag and in the car.
* Hand sanitiser must be at all entry and exit points of our house. And said sanitiser must be easy to see/reach.
* Clothes and towels may only be worn/used once then thrown into the washing machine for a heavy duty wash.
* Bleach to be placed in showers and bathroom basins and toilets to kill germs. (I make a diluted spray consisting of bleach and water)
* Weekly home tests must be conducted on every family member to check IF anyone has contracted Covid19.
* The other thing I’m doing is wiping down all kitchen and bathroom and laundry surfaces with a diluted eucalyptus disinfectant spray I have put together. I do this twice a day and it makes those highly used rooms of the house smell beautiful too.
* All kitchen sponges must be replaced every 7 days.
* All kitchen cutlery/crockery must be washed and rinsed in hot water.
* Tea towels must only be used to dry items and may only be used once then thrown into the washing basket.
* Hands are to be dried after washing ...using disposable paper towels.

I wonder if I’ve missed anything in that list ....😩i

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 11:27am:

2 people (a neighbour and a relative) both died recently because of Covid19. Both were fully vaccinated too.

Not to be disrespectful of your loss. But were the deceased elderly and/or had other health problems? People die of influenza. Most of them have some other health issues that led them to their death, whilst they had influenza.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 19^th, 2023 at 3:48pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 11:27am:

2 people (a neighbour and a relative) both died recently because of Covid19. Both were fully vaccinated too.

You’re not being disrespectful at all UnSub.

Well the neighbour was around 80. Super fit though. But yeah ... old. My aunt was in her 60’s. No health issues from what I can tell.

Hang on ..... both had arthritis. They complained about arthritis to me.

Both were fully vaccinated too.

I don’t know what to make of it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 19^th, 2023 at 3:59pm

103 Covid deaths reported for Australia this week.

Could possibly be 20 or 30 more if Queensland hadn't stopped reporting Covid deaths for the past 2 weeks.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Actually, Tasmania haven't reported their weekly numbers yet (they're always last for some reason?).

Edit: Tasmania numbers now added. 3 deaths and 1,252 new (reported) cases

5,674 (reported) cases higher than last week for the whole of Australia (38,754 this week, 33,080 last week).

Meanwhile, looks like it isn't just Queensland not reporting Covid deaths anymore.

https://twitter.com/SMpwrgr/status/1659421494613786624

Quote:

Good news everyone, according to @healthgovau
there were no Covid deaths this week ⬇️ 😳

Genuine condolences to families of those Australians who died from Covid

I’m sorry for your loss & also for govt sweeping it under the rug instead of acknowledging it 😞

They all matter

Yes, they do.

In reality, there were 38 deaths in aged care alone in the past week.

https://twitter.com/Lyn60139787/status/1659429877387509760

More money saved on pensions and healthcare costs as far as our governments are concerned. Absolutely disgraceful.

And, the usual chirping crickets from the Prime Minister and State Premiers.

But, that's not surprising anymore... even if we had just one honest politician in this country who stood up and told the truth about Covid it would be seen as an admission that the "vaccines only then let it rip" approach that was used by our governments was (and still is) a failure.

And it's not like they didn't know that would happen... there were plenty of examples of this failure in other parts of the world where they tried the same thing before Australia followed down the same tragic path.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:07am

Yes.

Congratulations to Anthony Albanese and the ALP.

One year in government as of yesterday. And what a score.

(image credit: Sue J on Twitter).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am

The number of deaths cited in this image appear to be suspect,
considering "only" 20K deaths since the pandemic started. What's
the source for 12,583 deaths in the past 12 months?

The actual figures are here:

https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/au

In Australia, from 3 January 2020 to 5:43PM, 17 May 2023,
there have been 11,299,954 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with
20,553 deaths, reported to WHO.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:01am

Carl D wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 3:59pm:

Bingo!

And that's why they don't mention it anymore - it's just killing off the old people who - in their view - take from society but give nothing back.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:22pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am:

Yeah, I've been trying to find some 'official' source which shows Australia's Covid deaths month by month since the start of the pandemic but our governments are (deliberately) making it more and more difficult to find this (and other) information.

Queensland has even stopped reporting deaths altogether for the past 2 weeks (even though the deaths haven't stopped).

Covid Live only shows (weekly) deaths back as far as April 7th.

https://covidlive.com.au/deaths

If it wasn't for Covid Live I'm sure I could spend all day navigating my way through Australia's Health Department websites and I probably still would not be able to find what I was looking for.

I'll keep looking but I know a few people on Twitter have been keeping monthly totals since last May's Federal election and even before that. Several people commented a month or so back that there were now more Covid deaths since Anthony Albanese became PM than there were during the two and a half years of the pandemic when Scott Morrison was PM.

Meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1660468552183463936

Quote:

"Canberra silenced posts on COVID"

A FOI request by Senator Alex Antic has revealed the federal government intervened at least 4213 times to restrict or censor posts about the Covid-19 pandemic on digital platforms.

Click on the images of the article to read (because it's paywalled as usual).

Hope it was only the antivaxxer and conspiracy nutters who were being censored but I have a strong suspicion it wasn't just them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2023 at 4:13pm

Still looking for that needle in a haystack.

Best I've come up with so far:

https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/coronavirus-deaths

The 'default' view appears to be 3 months, click on MAX at the top left of the graph which then gives the attached image that now shows from the start of 2020 until today.

(The rise in deaths in 2022 also appears to coincide with the reopening of borders and the removal of the last remaining Covid protections like mandatory masks in places like aircraft, airports, public transport, hospitals and healthcare settings Australia wide).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2023 at 8:20pm

Here's another one which shows pretty much the same thing.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1660582497514823680

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:16am

yes carl

you are a FOOL to trust the authorities.

they will throw you under the bus whenever it suits them

all those premiers needed to weep crocodile tears in 2020 for each and every nursing home patient who died.

now, they are tasering you and ordering health care staff to not wear masks and come to work even if they might carry the bug.

i'm glad you have finally arrived at aquascoots position.

you have to take personal responsibility for your affairs.

no authority is there to save you.
in fact, if they think there are more votes in sacrificing you, thats exactly what they will do.

your premier is probably more concerned with the west coast eagles being thrashed by 100 points on the weekend. fans tend to vote out the incumbent when their footy team is doing poorly

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 8:06am

aquascoot wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:16am:

I was saving this one for Sir Nail but right here will do instead.

:)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 8:29am

Wow... just wow.

Anne and her family have now caught COVID 14 times. Here's the latest advice

Some people in Australia have now had COVID-19 three or more times each. With cases set to rise during Australia's winter and booster rates dropping off, here's the latest advice.

Quote:

Anne Fletcher and her family have come down with COVID-19 a total of 14 times between them.

“I've had it three times confirmed, my husband's had it four, I have two children who had it three times each, and a baby who's had it once confirmed,” she said.

Quote:

Professor Stuart Tangye is a faculty and lab head at the Garvan Institute of Medical Research, and a conjoint professor with the Faculty of Medicine and Health at UNSW.

He said it’s hard to pin down exactly why some people seem more susceptible to COVID-19, but there are some clues.

According to Professor Tangye, people who lack B cells which produce antibodies, for example, didn't necessarily suffer from severe COVID-19, but they had prolonged infections and often experienced recurrent infection more frequently.

"Basically what that told us was, antibodies were really important," he said.

"They weren't directly necessary to give you that early protection against infection. Your T cells probably did a very good job of that. But the antibodies were really important for maintaining protection, controlling the viral infection and giving you that longer tail of protection."

Here's another clue: How about our governments do their job for once and tell people just how dangerous it is to be constantly infected with a Level 3 Biohazard virus and start reinstating protections like mandatory masks in all healthcare settings for starters?

And... again... should anyone be surprised that vaccination rates have dropped off when the messaging from our governments has been "everything's back to normal like it's 2019 again... off you all go back to work and shopping and spending"?

No wonder they're starting to 'hide' the weekly Covid deaths, starting with Queensland a couple of weeks back, and the rest of Australia will soon follow no doubt.

Our current crop of useless pollies had better hope they're long gone by the time the majority of the population finally wake up to the fact that their health (and in a lot of cases, lives) have been - and are still being - sacrificed for the economy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 9:21am

Yes... exactly this.

https://twitter.com/DALupton/status/1660777182954942464

"Happy days" indeed.

And make sure you read the replies.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:38am

I guess those expensive (for the Australian taxpayer) "Top Up Your Protection" ads (which are back on TV again I've noticed) are not having the desired effect?

I wonder why?

Actually, I had no idea the Covid vaccination rates were so poor until I saw this.

Where's that "personal responsibilty" I keep hearing about? ::)

https://twitter.com/RageSheen/status/1660798941733199872

Quote:

When you have a vax-only pandemic strategy, and then don't vaccinate. Anybody who performed this well in their job would be fired. Politicians just have to win an election, which they can game easily with bribes and propaganda.

Quote:

The messaging failed almost completely, because it was supposed to. Politicians wanted it out of their in-trays, so encouraged everybody to think it was just like catching a cold.

Quote:

Sue J
@SMpwrgr
·
39m
They’re prob savings heaps of $ by denying vaccination to anyone infected in the last 6 months 🤨

people will lurch from infection to infection and never get to their mirage-like booster

but accumulating long term health issues instead.

Yep. And that's possibly the main reason why vaccination rates have dropped so dramatically.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:48am

aquascoot wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:16am:

yes carl
you are a FOOL to trust the authorities...

Can I ask you where you draw your information from detailing
the actual number of COVID deaths in Australia? You claim that
the official government data can't be trusted, and/or is bogus.

So... you know that to be so how exactly? What data can you
cite that unequivocally proves the governments are lying?

Or is that just your baseless personal guess?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:32am

"Let It Kill"

https://twitter.com/Zoso771/status/1660810230765355008

Quote:

Q: Previously well young woman now heart damage from COVID & husband hi-risk🫁transplant

“Why doesn’t govt recognise the health & economic benefit & do more to STOP SPREAD of COVID?”

A: Fed Labor MP Dr Ananda-Rajah

“Govt announced $50mill for Long Covid research”

"Have we become lax when it comes to protecting vulnerable communities from COVID?" #QandA

Yes.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 3:11pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am:

Here's another one, Geoff.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1660819080327344128

8,182 Covid deaths from 2020 up to 21st May 2022 (Federal election date).

12,499 since then up to 18th May 2023.

You might have to click on View to see the image.

(Almost everything seems to be "potentially sensitive content" since Space Karen bought Twitter and is slowly but surely destroying it). ::)

I won't post the image itself because Mirella gets a bit 'annoyed' if people 'snag' her graphs, etc. without permission (although I doubt she would come here to OzPol).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:45pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:48am:

aquascoot wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:16am:

yes carl
you are a FOOL to trust the authorities...

I am not commenting on the numbers dying

I am commenting on the fact that state premiers were conducting 1-hour daily briefings in 2020
Offering their personal crocodile tears to those who have died

And now 2 years later
When the majority of their constituents
Are more interested in the football score then in kovid
They could not even be bothered collecting the data or publishing the data on the death rates

The elderly were our living treasures in 2020

And now they are not to be mentioned
Because they are an inconvenience

I see the prime minister has announced there will be no new nursing home beds
He has also passed legislation that a registered nurse must be on premises 24/7
Speaking to my wife and her colleagues
There is virtually no registered nurse in the country who wishes to work in that position

The result has been that 25 nursing homes have closed in the last 12 months

Now it doesn't take much thought to see what is going on here

Those same authorities that yourself and Carl trusted in 2020 have thrown you under the bus

Like I said the premier of Western Australia he's probably more interested in the performance of the West coast eagles then in the performance of various public health measures for the simple reason that he will fake interest in whatever the latest trend on Twitter is

And Carl god bless him
And his story of kovid
Is no longer trending on Twitte

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:57pm

aquascoot wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:45pm:

I... will... say... this... slowly.

As... I... have... said... many... times... before... I... am... fairly... certain... this... was... because... back... in... 2020... governments... including... our... own... believed... the... pandemic... would... be... over... in... 12... or... 18... months... and... when... it... wasn't... they... gave... up*... and... we've... ended... up... in... the... mess... we're... now... in... today**.

* under... intense... pressure... from... big... business... and... others.

** as... a... result... of... the... failed... vaccines... only... and... let... it... rip... decision... by... our... governments... which... they... are... obviously... now... too... embarrassed... and... gutless... to... admit... was... a... failure.

aquascoot wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:45pm:

Now it doesn't take much thought to see what is going on here

<------- Carl (and it took great restraint on my part, believe me).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:22pm

Oh, dear. :-[

'Worst flight ever' as Jetstar travellers vomit 'non-stop' from Bali for FIVE HOURS

Quote:

Passengers on board a Jetstar flight from Bali to Brisbane have described it as the “worst flight ever” after several travellers were vomiting for almost the entire five-hour flight.

Aussie fitness guru and businesswoman Ashy Bines, her husband Steve and their two children were among those travelling on JQ58 on Sunday night, and said they began to feel unwell at the airport before their flight boarded.

Taking to her Instagram stories, Ms Bines described the “awful” experience as she and her son Taj vomited “every 20 minutes” on board the flight – which was also delayed by an hour and a half.

Family vomiting for 5 hours on Jetstar flight from Bali after getting on plane ill. Other passengers complaining of "multiple" unwell passengers. Of course nothing to do with massive Covid19 wave occurring. Living with Covid is a blast!

Indeed it is... not!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 24^th, 2023 at 8:40am

Carl D wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:22pm:

Oh, dear. :-[

'Worst flight ever' as Jetstar travellers vomit 'non-stop' from Bali for FIVE HOURS

Quote:

Not one word about Covid, of course (yet another 'episode' of ABC - Anything But Covid).

At least a few people are pretty sure about what it was:

https://twitter.com/healthb4profits/status/1660960832489132032

[quote]Family vomiting for 5 hours on Jetstar flight from Bali after getting on plane ill. Other passengers complaining of "multiple" unwell passengers. Of course nothing to do with massive Covid19 wave occurring. Living with Covid is a blast!

Indeed it is... not![/quote]

Carl

You seem extremely focused on health
Actually scrap that
You seem extremely focused on disease

I was talking to chief health officer John Gerrard
Who unlike you is a scientist

And he said that the effect of covid on your risk of dying
Can be directly correlated with your VO2 max

There is a far far stronger association with your VO2 max then with any number of vaccines or kovid antivirals

I asked him what is a good explanation for the public of a VO2 max
He said he did not want to get to technical but basically it is the amount of oxygen your body's muscles can take up when performing exercise

He said someone with a good VO2max would be able to climb four flights of stairs at a normal pace whilst carrying on a conversation

He said if you can do that you have basically eliminated your chances of kovid and indeed many other diseases taking you out

He said if everyone in Australia would commit to achieving that we would basically have very few covid deaths

So bearing in mind your terror of dying from covid
The scientific advice would be that you should
Find a set of stairs somewhere
And commit to walking up and down them
Until you can climb those stairs whilst carrying on a conversation

Now this will be difficult for you
You will have to give up following various hypochondriacs on Twitter
You will have to exert some energy

But if you are truly committed to following the science
Then you will do this

If you remain in your chair
Reading bedwetting Twitter posts all day
You are performing a sort of slow suicide

Time to get up and get after it

I will have to invoice you $100 for this excellent advice
I am finding it extremely difficult to keep the flow of information coming
When you are not willing to pay for it

I will send you my bank account details
A small commission to our mutual hero Dr John Gerrard

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2023 at 9:03am

Hey, word salad boy... what are your thoughts about airlines knowingly allowing sick people to board flights and potentially infect everyone on board?

And then make matters worse with the infected people arriving at their destinations and continuing on to infect their families and others.

Like they've been doing (and are still doing) with Covid and the flu and other diseases.

Come to think of it... the world's airlines have gotten off pretty lightly so far considering the major role they've played in the current Covid pandemic by spreading the virus around the entire world.

Like they've been doing with the flu every year for nearly 100 years.

And they're continuing to spread the latest Covid variants (and the flu, of course). No testing, no masks, no quarantine anymore.

But, hey... profits are up (and people are still getting sick and dying - but, shhhhh... quiet.... we're not supposed to talk about that anymore).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am

aquascoot wrote on May 24^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

I was talking to chief health officer John Gerrard

::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 24^th, 2023 at 12:46pm

its only word salad because you are a dumbie.

i am used to teaching intelligent quarter horses.

with you, its more like trying to teach a stubborn mule.

now, if you arent willing to walk up 4 sets of stairs 3 times a day, until you can do it whilst holding a conversation, i will have to leave you to commit slow suicide by trusting in the sick care system

please hurry and settle your account.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 24^th, 2023 at 12:48pm

Carl D wrote on May 24^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

my thoughts are , if you are a sloppy individual with a piss poor immune system you might get sick

my thoughts are that you should take "personal responsibility" to construct a robust immune system and then you dont have to give a smack

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2023 at 8:32am

I'll just leave this here for aquascoot and his hero Dr. Gerrard.

Make sure you shoot it off in an email to him (if he isn't 'in the room' at the time so you can tell him in person). ::)

https://twitter.com/StephTaitWrites/status/1661080023200325632

She's in the United States but this applies almost everywhere now, including Australia.

Quote:

Eugenics has been successfully mainstreamed. #NeverAgain is right now.

Quote:

So many of y'all who are comfortably ignoring this because it doesn't matter to you are missing that those repeat Covid infections will give you the conditions that MAKE you part of the population you've deemed expendable.

Your ableism will circle back to bite you in the ass.

Quote:

You're also missing that those 100k-250k he's talking about are *official* covid deaths - it does NOT include the heart attacks, strokes, pulmonary embolisms, etc that Covid causes later. And those deaths are NOT so centralized within so-called "vulnerable populations."

Quote:

Normalizing mass death (and preventable mass death at that) is a literal page from the Nazi playbook.

Eugenics and "useless eater" propaganda is a literal page from the Nazi playbook.

This should be setting off MASSIVE alarm bells people.

Yes, it most certainly should be setting off alarm bells.

Unfortunately, most people have swallowed the "Covid is over and it was only mild and just like a cold or flu since Omicron anyway" government and MSM propaganda.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:09am

69 deaths this week for NSW.

63 (or 59?) deaths this week for Victoria.

132 (or 128?) deaths for just 2 States.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Edit: I don't know why Covid Live have just reduced the number of deaths in Victoria from 63 to 59?

Still says 63 here (and it hasn't been revised):

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1661884919675584513

"Our thoughts are with those in hospital, and the families of people who have lost their lives".

Yeah, pig's @rse they are. If they were they'd be doing something... anything... to reduce this weekly carnage.

No wonder NSW and Victoria are rumoured to be following Queensland soon and stop reporting Covid deaths.

Hospitalisation and ICU numbers also increasing.

Other States and Territories (except Queensland) still to report.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:46am

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:09am:

69 deaths this week for NSW.

63 deaths this week for Victoria.

132 deaths for just 2 States.

https://covidlive.com.au/

No wonder NSW and Victoria are rumoured to be following Queensland soon and stop reporting Covid deaths.

Hospitalisation and ICU numbers also increasing.

Other States and Territories (except Queensland) still to report.

Thank you Carl.

I appreciate seeing this data.

My husband’s uncle died this week. He was in his early 80’s. Official cause of death? Covid19 complications. He was fully vaccinated and a very active guy who was still playing tennis and mowing lawns and trimming edges etc. He just couldn’t sit still.

The number of days before we can bury him? 16.

Funerals here are back to back. Essentially dead people are on waiting lists to be buried.

I refuse to attend viewings. I can’t bear to see my friends and relatives stone cold and grey. I have to attend funerals out of respect/regard.

I don’t understand why I’m attending the funerals of fully vaccinated friends/relatives dying of Covid19/Covid19 complications.

My conclusions:

1. I honestly believe we are not being told the truth regarding new Covid19 strains or their prevalence in the community.

2. I honestly believe incessant vaccinations must be affecting natural immunity in some individuals hence why they succumb to the new Covid19 strain/s despite being fully vaccinated.

3. I’m still totally UNvaccinated but I remain very careful. I’ve not had Covid19 yet and I’d like to keep it that way so I’m continuing my thorough proactive approach which I’ve outlined many times on OzPol regarding washing/cleaning/disinfecting/hand sanitising/masking IF out and about/never using public transport etc.

Edit : I’m starting to wonder about these viruses. Let me explain why. Even the HIV virus is apparently mutating and new medications are unable to treat certain strains. In many ways (not all) the HIV virus is like COVID19 in terms of mutating and the medical community being unable to keep up with the new strains. For this reason many people go on to develop AIDS and die. I think I might have to revisit what the HIV virus is doing these days in Australia and of course globally. Something tells me that we are not being told the full story regarding those numbers also.

It’s also important to remember that MSM is a very useful propaganda tool used by every govt on our planet. Even here in Australia.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:58am

Hi, Lisa.

Sorry to hear about your husband's uncle.

I believe it is important for as many people as possible to be made aware that Covid with it's cases, deaths and hospitalisations isn't over and probably never will be if governments don't go back to making at least some effort to reduce the spread.

Bobby used to keep us all up to date in this thread (and I believe he had another long running thread prior to that one but it had to be 'abandoned' due to the severe 'page flip' issue as it got longer and longer).

Sadly, Bobby seems to have gone to the 'Dark Side' these days, the 'side' which is populated by antivaxxers like Sir Nail and his ilk. :(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 26^th, 2023 at 11:09am

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

Thank you for your sentiments regarding our Uncle.

For the record I’m trying hard NOT to adopt an anti vaxxer perspective.

I’m also trying hard to make sense of what’s going on.

This global pandemic (irrespective of how it started) is still spreading and it’s still killing. The brutal reality is that any vaccine is unable to keep up with new strains and chronic vaccinations are hammering our natural immunity.

Where does that leave us? We must remain vigilant and proactive. We must do our due diligence to remain well as that means staying out of hospital and a morgue.

Essentially our health and survival depends on taking responsibility for our own health.

Note to all : Both the flu and Covid19 viruses love the cold. Winter is coming. Please be careful.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bit Grose on May 26^th, 2023 at 12:26pm

If there is ONE thing we have learned from the pandemic is not to do it in front of the salad, for God's Sake!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:10pm

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:09am:

Are you suggesting that we shut down our economy again, close down our borders, put our individual freedoms and liberties back on hold, place all visitors and citizens who test positive into quarantine, destroy our major industries and infrastructures, and put a million Australians back on the dole? Do you want cops(and employers) to check the status of our Covid-19 ID card on request? If you can't provide this ID, you could be arrested, detained, or could loose your job. Clearly, I'm not that misanthropic. This is NOT the Australia I remember, or would want to live in. Especially, in response to a disease no more lethal than the measles!

In reality, we are talking about a disease that only 0.0005% of our population have died (?)WITH/FROM(?). In over 3 years with this killer virus, we've had a total of 11,543,887 cases, 20,660 deaths, and 11,488,902 recoveries. We are talking about a disease with a case mortality rate(CMR) of 0.1%. A disease with a recovery rate of 99%, with 80% of symptoms being reported as none to mild. These are the facts. The rest is just media hype and omissions!

Simply reporting weekly death stats is deceptive, without including context. What was the average age of those who died? Did they die WITH Covid-19, or directly FROM Covid-19? Were there any other comorbidities that contributed to their deaths? What were other factors that led directly to their deaths(obesity, drugs, multiple organ failure, ongoing cancer treatment, immunocompromised/suppressed, etc.). So simply stating that people are still dying from covid, or just highlighting weekly deaths stats without context, is just fear mongering to the choir.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:09am:

its a pretty small choir at this stage.

just carl, geoff and gweg

more of a threesome

every one else has moved on.

carl should get some tickets to the eagles match and go support his team
live a little

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:28pm

183 (or 187?) Covid deaths so far this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Nothing from Tasmania yet - they're always late (and last) with reporting their weekly numbers.

The 21 deaths for Queensland come from their new 'system' of using "seven-day rolling averages". ::)

Perhaps aquascoot can shoot off a quick email to Dr. Gerrard and ask him WTF is that all about?

Apart from making a poor attempt to obscure the true numbers probably prior to stopping reporting the numbers altogether.

Not sure if that could be described as "following the science" but I'm sure Dr. Gerrard can clear that up for us in his reply to aqua's email.

Let us know how you go... or preferably don't. :-/

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:42pm

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:28pm:

i got onto dr gerrard.

he said his hospitals are so busy dealing with all the obese and the diabetics and other people who refuse to take 'personal responsibility" that he couldnt be bothered counting those dying WITH covid.

as he said,

we are at breaking point due to the sloppy nature of our citizens

we dont have time to spend significant time on insignificant things.

what time do the eagles kick off ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:51pm

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:42pm:

Isn't he using Queensland's new "seven-day rolling average" system yet? ::)

Oh, wait... that's for those who are dying OF Covid (which is the cause of about 80% of the deaths according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 4:49pm

Any way you look at this it's been a bad week.

Covid Live says 184 deaths:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Denis says 193 deaths:

https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1661985658821394432

I would say it's 193 because Covid Live changed Victoria's death number from 63 to 59 earlier today for some reason and they also reported 4 deaths for South Australia when the number was 9.

41,428 (reported) cases, hospitalisations up 141 and ICU up 9.

And we haven't even 'officially' started winter yet. :o

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 4:49pm:

worst week indeed

1. West Coast is absolutely embarrassing and the worst non-expansion team we've seen since 2000
When the Fitzroy comparisons start being rolled out, you know a team isn't just struggling but in the discussion for worst in league history.
The Eagles hit an all-time low last weekend, becoming the first team ever to lose by 100+ points to the side sitting 18th on the ladder.

its time for action.

when is Mcgowan going to do something about this ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:56pm

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm:

I live in Perth and I don't give a rat's behind about the West Coast Eagles.

You live in Queensland and seem to be obsessed with them lately.

I find that a little bizarre, to be honest.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2023 at 6:07pm

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm:

I live in Perth and I don't give a rat's behind about the West Coast Eagles.

You live in Queensland and seem to be obsessed with them lately.

I find that a little bizarre, to be honest.

millions of australians are obsessed with footy.

its perfectly normal

being obsessed with masks or trumps sex life seems to be a weird fetich of a couple of very odd western australians

get your sunday paper and see how much is devoted to footy and how much to masks and trumps sex life.

then get back to me on who the freaks are :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:07pm

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm:

I live in Perth and I don't give a rat's behind about the West Coast Eagles.

You live in Queensland and seem to be obsessed with them lately.

I find that a little bizarre, to be honest.

Absolute Gold! 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on May 26^th, 2023 at 9:56pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:09am:

And I see this in the news… deaths from COVID rising compared to previous week/month or whatever!
I ask out loud at that TV…. Yes but how many of them were vaxxed or felt protected?
Today I go to my gym as it’s a medical place also… I go through the waiting area and everyone was wearing a mask! So there’s this thing …medical and masks … yet in shopping centre today… not one!

Re: the lockdown we had in Victoria…. The longest on record in the world and made our state deficit sky high that Han Dan is taxing the crapola out of many! To pay it back!

All that lockdown… all that restriction, the fines, the suffering, no weddings, funerals only allowed 5 people etc. all for what?
FOR A BIG FAT NOTHING! Locked up for nothing.
Victoria still had the highest death rate!

Now this accrued debt is truly biting us all on the bum!
What a waste of time it all was.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:23pm

https://covidlive.com.au/

184 dead in the last week.

59 in Victoria.
69 in NSW.

The Fauci/Chinese bio weapon continues to murder people.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 27^th, 2023 at 12:30am

Sophia wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 9:56pm:

I couldn't agree more. Remember, there is a lot of vaccines still in stock, and the government must get rid of it. Or, they will face stiff penalties for a breach of contract.

This is another example of how the media can manipulate the minds of very smart and very dumb people. There were 3 very clear red flags, that should have been noticed. Being forced, shamed, or coerced into taking this poison was the first red flag. Claiming that wearing masks, distancing, or being vaccinated could somehow reduce or prevent being infected/reinfected by this virus, was another red flag. Fear-mongering only death stats and total cases, and ignoring recovery stats and comorbidities, was another red flag.

I think we simply wanted to believe what we were being fed. Hopefully, we can learned from our mistakes and move on! OR NOT!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 27^th, 2023 at 8:10am

Believe the Media Shellshilo - Big Brother Media is telling the truth for Big Brother Pharmacy. People must help their cause and take the stockpiles of immune-steroids. People are behind schedule and need to take jab #10!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 27^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 10:23pm:

https://covidlive.com.au/

184 dead in the last week.

59 in Victoria.
69 in NSW.

The Fauci/Chinese bio weapon continues to murder people.

3000+ Australians die each week. 184 of them die from a particular virus. Of course, you believe that the 184 people would still be alive.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2023 at 11:10pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Of course, you believe that the 184 people would still be alive.

Maybe not all of them... but possibly up to 80 percent could still be.

That's the percentage of Covid deaths that were actually caused by Covid itself according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (up until 31 March 2023).

Quote:

16,810 deaths where people died with or from COVID-19 that occurred by 31 March 2023 have been registered and received by the ABS.

The underlying cause of death for 13,456 (80.0%) of these people was COVID-19.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:08am

Jasin wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm:

I live in Perth and I don't give a rat's behind about the West Coast Eagles.

You live in Queensland and seem to be obsessed with them lately.

I find that a little bizarre, to be honest.

Absolute Gold! 8-)

Yet here you both are commenting on a political board?

Yes it would be normal in your cases to not get why people are not focused on sport.

You would make a nice pair of gold fish for someones pond.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:08am:

Jasin wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm:

I live in Perth and I don't give a rat's behind about the West Coast Eagles.

You live in Queensland and seem to be obsessed with them lately.

I find that a little bizarre, to be honest.

Absolute Gold! 8-)

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

it is a noble endeavour.

i hope carl did go to the footy and re integrate with society.

reading tweets about masks all day is no way to live

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:58am

Sport is for women.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2023 at 8:40am

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

i hope carl did go to the footy and re integrate with society.

Carl hasn't been to the footy since 1973.

My uncle took my mother and I to Lathlain Park to watch Perth Football Club (nicknamed the Demons) play.

He was a big Perth fan. He died in 1992.

Can't remember who Perth played or if they won or lost.

From memory, it was only the second or third time I'd been to the footy.

50 years ago. And I'm pretty sure I won't be going to the footy ever again.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:29am

People who die from covid have a weak enough immune system, that the disease would have only expedited their deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:40am

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

i hope carl did go to the footy and re integrate with society.

That was the last place I went to the footy too - Lathlain.

And I also watched the Demons. They were playing the Falcons (West Perth).

It must have been about 1983.

Some woman behind me spent the entire time yelling "Caaaaaarrrrn coach!"

I think she meant "Come on coach".

Never again.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:43am

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

Feeling superior is founded on obtrusion, arrogance and contempt.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

Feeling superior is founded on obtrusion, arrogance and contempt.

not at all.

as we climb the narrow road to success, we have an obligation to throw down ropes to try to help others haul themselves up.

unfortunately success barriers and limiting beliefs mean most will reject the assistance.

thats something the superior man cannot control.

but the act of mentoring is , in and of itself, helpful to the superior man .

emotional states are addictive
people who are sulking are getting a pay off from the sulking.

maybe when you were a child you were sulking and mum tried to give you a chocalate ice cream to snap you out of it.

many kids will toss the ice cream on the floor

people want to stay in the emotional state that feels familiar.

is it your mums fault if you are sulking and toss the ice cream back at her
not at all

her act is not driven by arrogance or contempt
it is driven by compassion.

its on YOU to change.
to grow up and stop being a scared and angry child

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:32am

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

Feeling superior is founded on obtrusion, arrogance and contempt.

Maybe it’s the word “superior” that lends towards a feeling of inadequacy for others?
A different word in its place … let’s think of one…

Advanced?
Wiser?
Experienced?
Guru?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:47am

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

Feeling superior is founded on obtrusion, arrogance and contempt.

but the act of mentoring is , in and of itself, helpful to the superior man .

maybe when you were a child you were sulking and mum tried to give you a chocalate ice cream to snap you out of it.

many kids will toss the ice cream on the floor

people want to stay in the emotional state that feels familiar.

is it your mums fault if you are sulking and toss the ice cream back at her
not at all

her act is not driven by arrogance or contempt
it is driven by compassion.

So your act of mentoring is one of self-interested opportunism to feel superior and is not altruistic.

Paying someone off to snap out of an undesirable emotional state is not an act of compassion - rejection of the payoff signals that the receiver is aware that they're being paid off to repress emotion and that the benefactor is likely attempting to avoid intimacy and authenticity.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:59am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:29am:

People who die from covid have a weak enough immune system, that the disease would have only expedited their deaths.

I’m glad you mentioned it in a nutshell Rocky.
I was thinking that exact thing last night because….

Watching “The dog house” an awesome show where people are assigned dogs from the rescue centre, well, a mum came in with her daughter, maybe she’s about 30ish? And with a walking stick and lacking energy… her mum helping her to move …
She said she had “long covid” and hubby says… “kidding?!”

I said… her immune system let her down?
Or she’s not helping her immune system, some don’t and just like being victims?
Then we discussed our journey we had after covid… us being double her age… yes we felt the weakness and lack of energy… but as each day went on, we pushed ourselves to do more physical work and a lot of supplementation etc. Within 2 months we were back to normal.
These people suffering long term effects even 2 years after…. It HAS to be about the immune system!

You know, inflammation and high blood pressure are a common b1tch of a thing now … but earthing/grounding helps to ease that.
My BP was always troublesome at between 140 or 150/90
Now since doing more grounding it’s plummeted to 117/60
Never had it so good.
These are the sort of things we all must keep searching for to help ourselves as doctors can only provide a bandaide via prescription.
We assault our immune systems daily without realising it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:05pm

Sophia wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:32am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:11am:

the superior man feels an urge to mentor the chode.

Feeling superior is founded on obtrusion, arrogance and contempt.

Maybe it’s the word “superior” that lends towards a feeling of inadequacy for others?
A different word in its place … let’s think of one…

Advanced?
Wiser?
Experienced?
Guru?

its a nod to a great book, all men should read

David Deida, “The Way of the Superior Man” honest book review.

Plot Summary
Masculine Essence. In a way, the Superior Man is someone who generates energy from the Masculine and sends that off into the world — his career, relationships, and purpose. It’s a call to action for men to evolve beyond the macho jerk ideal and the sensitive and caring wimp ideal. The first is all spine and no heart. The second is all heart and no spine. David Deida's Superior Man is the fusing of those two characteristics into a single man.

TABLE OF CONTENTS
Part One: A Man’s Way
1 Stop Hoping for a Completion of Anything in Life 2 Live With an Open Heart Even If It Hurts 3 Live As If Your Father Were Dead 4 Know Your Real Edge and Don’t Fake It 5 Always Hold To Your Deepest Realization 6 Never Change Your Mind Just to Please a Woman 7 Your Purpose Must Come Before Your Relationship 8 Lean Just Beyond Your Edge 9 Do It for Love 10 Enjoy Your Friends’ Criticism 11 If You Don’t Know Your Purpose, Discover It, Now 12 Be Willing To Change Everything in Your Life 13 Don’t Use Your Family As an Excuse 14 Don’t Get Lost in Tasks and Duties 15 Stop Hoping for Your Woman to Get Easier

Part Two: Dealing with Women
16 Women Are Not Liars 17 Praise Her 18 Tolerating Her Leads to Resenting Her 19 Don’t Analyze Your Woman 20 Don’t Suggest That a Woman Fix Her Own Emotional Problem 21 Stay With Her Intensity––To a Point 22 Don’t Force the Feminine to Make Decisions

Part Three: Working with Polarity and Energy
23 Your Attraction to the Feminine Is Inevitable 24 Choose a Woman Who Is Your Complementary Opposite 25 Know What Is Important in Your Woman 26 You Will Often Want More Than One Woman 27 Young Women Offer You a Special Energy 28 Each Woman Has a “Temperature” That Can Heal or Irritate You

Part Four: What Women Really Want
29 Choose a Woman Who Chooses You 30 What She Wants Is Not What She Says 31 Her Complaint Is Content-Free 32 She Doesn’t Really Want to Be Number One 33 Your Excellent Track Record Is Meaningless to Her 34 She Wants to Relax in the Demonstration of Your Direction

Part Five: Your Dark Side
35 You Are Always Searching for Freedom 36 Own Your Darkest Desires 37 She Wants the “Killer” in You 38 She Needs Your Consciousness to Match Her Energy

Part Six: Feminine Attractiveness
39 The Feminine is Abundant 40 Allow Older Women Their Magic 41 Turn Your Lust Into Gifts 42 Never Allow Your Desire to Become Suppressed or Depolarized 43 Use Her Attractiveness as a Slingshot Through Appearance

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:10pm

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:05pm:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:28pm

hi carl

you prove my point about sulky people refusing to grow.

if you dont aim to get better, you just get bitter

(understandable after the eagles lost another match by 50 points)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm

why arent we still locked down

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:54pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:05pm:

Carl

X2. not a word.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

The world was a better place when all the problems of the world were Locked Down - the air became cleaner, the noise pollution vanished, the rivers and streams looked clearer and the ozone hole shrank once more.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:21pm

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

I dunno. Maybe we should just let those people die. The rest of functional society can just get the sniffles, take a week off work/school and then come back fully immune.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

I dunno. Maybe we should just let those people die. The rest of functional society can just get the sniffles, take a week off work/school and then come back fully immune.

Catching COVID doesn't make you fully immune. Not even close.

FFS, where have you been for the last three years?

::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Xavier on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:25pm

[url]Well hopefully a full Thermonuclear World War involving many nations will cull the world's over-population a bit, as the Corona-Covid Pandemic has turned out to be a real ~~fizzer~~ Pfizer! [/url] :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:26pm

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 12:05pm:

Carl

X2. not a word.

exactly

you lack such focus, you would get sleepy by paragraph 2 and need a nap ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:32pm

This is exactly how I feel these days:

https://twitter.com/MLS_Dave/status/1662594123705008132

Quote:

The gaslighting from the pandemic minimizers in power & society's acceptance of it has me feeling like William Shatner's character in the famous Twilight Zone episode Nightmare at 20,000 feet.

FxK4i22XgAAV2I-.jpg (29 KB | 9 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

And, I agree with this 100%

https://twitter.com/1goodtern/status/1662144849888288768

Quote:

I had an angry comment from a colleague this week who asked me why I was trying to avoid catching something that everyone had to catch.
Some people are at the point where they're realising they've been tricked, but instead of being angry with the conmen they're directing their anger at the people who didn't fall for the scam.

This reply sums things up nicely:

Quote:

John Klein
@JohnKleinRegina
·
May 27
Coincidentally, zombies in movies always think everyone else should be a zombie too.

As I said last week - our current crop of useless pollies had better start hoping they're long gone by the time the majority of the population wake up to the fact that their health and in many, many cases their loved ones' lives have been sacrificed for the economy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:40pm

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

because the vax was so successful the media can't stop talking about it :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 28^th, 2023 at 6:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

I dunno. Maybe we should just let those people die. The rest of functional society can just get the sniffles, take a week off work/school and then come back fully immune.

Catching COVID doesn't make you fully immune. Not even close.

FFS, where have you been for the last three years?

::)

Only the monkey snot shot will save you :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:26pm:

exactly

you lack such focus, you would get sleepy by paragraph 2 and need a nap ;D ;D

More likely I would get bilious by paragraph 2 and need to puke.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

I dunno. Maybe we should just let those people die. The rest of functional society can just get the sniffles, take a week off work/school and then come back fully immune.

Catching COVID doesn't make you fully immune. Not even close.

FFS, where have you been for the last three years?

::)

Quote:

Catching COVID doesn't make you fully immune. Not even close.

Yes but no to worry the worst thing that could happen is that you die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 28^th, 2023 at 7:47pm

Jasin wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:25pm:

Well hopefully a full Thermonuclear World War involving many nations will cull the world's over-population a bit, as the Corona-Covid Pandemic has turned out to be a real ~~fizzer~~ Pfizer! :D

My husband keeps making these types of remarks. Every bloody day.

I find them very annoying. Just saying.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 29^th, 2023 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

why arent we still locked down

Some clown decided that it was time to let people die.

I dunno. Maybe we should just let those people die. The rest of functional society can just get the sniffles, take a week off work/school and then come back fully immune.

Catching COVID doesn't make you fully immune. Not even close.

FFS, where have you been for the last three years?

::)

Avoiding idiots like you that act like the Wuhan Flu is another Black Plague. How much toilet paper did you hoard back in the year 2020?

Mum and Dad, my brother and sister have all had covid. They have recovered sufficiently. I am the only member of my immediate family to have avoided covid, even though my job puts me interacting with the public.

Much like colds and influenza, once you get it, your body develops an immunity upon recovery. It is not forever. But, you are immune for quite some time afterwards. That is why I only get a cold every three years, these days.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 29^th, 2023 at 2:52pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:32pm:

This is exactly how I feel these days:

https://twitter.com/MLS_Dave/status/1662594123705008132

Quote:

The gaslighting from the pandemic minimizers in power & society's acceptance of it has me feeling like William Shatner's character in the famous Twilight Zone episode Nightmare at 20,000 feet.

Are you trying to say that you are a narcissistic actor that overacts his scenes?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 3:50pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 2:52pm:

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 4:32pm:

This is exactly how I feel these days:

https://twitter.com/MLS_Dave/status/1662594123705008132

Quote:

The gaslighting from the pandemic minimizers in power & society's acceptance of it has me feeling like William Shatner's character in the famous Twilight Zone episode Nightmare at 20,000 feet.

Are you trying to say that you are a narcissistic actor that overacts his scenes?

No.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 4:16pm

But... but... isn't Covid supposed to be "unexceptional" and can be treated "like any other respiratory illness" now?

Then why is this happening?

https://twitter.com/Sophs0123/status/1663013840123211778

South Australia.

Quote:

Ward 1D at Hampstead Rehabilitation Centre is in COVID lockdown.
Remind me why it is “normal” to allow an airborne virus to infect ANYONE, let alone vulnerable patients with brain injuries, neurological disorders. UNETHICAL!!

Hampstead Rehabilitation Centre

Quote:

The Hampstead Rehabilitation Centre (HRC) is a campus of the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

HRC is a 120-bed facility, which provides general inpatient rehabilitation services for people suffering from stroke, other neurological and medical disorders, orthopaedic conditions, and amputations.

In addition to the general rehabilitation wards, Hampstead has a Geriatric Evaluation and Management Unit, a Care Awaiting Placement Ward and a Transitional Ward.

Let me guess... none of the staff had been wearing masks up until now because they were no longer mandated and they were too "uncomfortable" for the staff to wear them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:21pm

And the (stupid) hits just keep on coming...

Canberra.

https://twitter.com/colintucker/status/1662959685711048704

Quote:

A little birdie told me that a ward in a certain hospital in our nation’s capital is currently experiencing a COVID outbreak, with multiple staff on sick leave.

None of the ward staff were masked — not even surgical. They are now telling remaining staff to wear N95s.

Wonder if the "multiple staff on sick leave" have figured out yet that wearing a mask at work is probably a lot less "uncomfortable" than catching Covid? Especially catching it more than once.

And then 'passing it on' to their vulnerable patients, of course,

(I hope aquascoot is showing these posts to his wife who should then show them to everyone at work). ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2023 at 5:12am

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:21pm:

And the (stupid) hits just keep on coming...

Canberra.

https://twitter.com/colintucker/status/1662959685711048704

Quote:

hi carl

if i showed your posts to my wife she would see that you accused doctors and nurses of fraud in that you said they were lying and falsely diagnosing influenza when the patient had covid.

she and her colleagues would then realise you were a conspiracy theorist and an entitled old hypochondriac who thinks the whole health system revolves around you.

as a 50 kg woman expected to deal with the morbidly obese , she is kind of used to your type.

she was pushing a morbidly obese selfish twat down the corridoor when he started laughing, saying how funny it must look that a tiny person like her was pushing him.

you wont have any carers when you finally reach your nursing home
they are leaving in droves

the entitlement and selfishness is one thing, but calling her and her colleagues lying frauds is really taking it to a new low.

congratulations ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2023 at 5:15am

and carl, most of the sick leave is taken by nurses and doctors who did not take "personal responsibility" for their health (especially their mental health) and are off work with depression, anxiety, arthritis, heart disease and diabetes.

covid is a nothing burger as Dr Gerrard (a scientist unlike yourself) has realised

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2023 at 8:52am

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 5:12am:

as a 50 kg woman expected to deal with the morbidly obese , she is kind of used to your type.

My type?

Are you assuming I'm "morbidly obese"?

Just like you keep assuming Marla is a 60 year old male working at the DMV?

Guess what? You're wrong on both counts but I don't expect you to believe it seeing as you're wrong in 99% of your posts here.

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 5:15am:

Covid doesn't care if people take "personal responsibility" or not. It's a virus and it will do what a virus of that type (SARS) does - infect people and make them sick. Very sick in many cases. And very dead in millions worldwide.

Regardless of their level of health.

And heart disease is one of the medical issues caused by Covid, especially if you've been infected more than once. Having diabetes can make it even worse.

I wouldn't be surprised if your hero, "not even a scientist's a-hole" Dr. Gerrard announces his retirement soon, joining the ranks of these people:

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1663106222323793920 (Sorry, I had the wrong link earlier).

Quote:

Politicians resigning due to exhaustion this year:
Jacinda Ardern, NZ PM
Nicola Sturgeon, Scots First Minister
Mark McGowan, WA Premier

It's a new thing. These people don't usually do this. I wonder why it's happening now?

And Tasmanian Premier Peter Gutwein resigned last year.

Yes, I wonder too?

Long Covid? And/or the realisation that the population is slowly waking up to the fact that their health and many lives have been sacrificed to Covid for the sake of the economy?

Resigning before the (Covid) sh!t hits the fan and they are made to face the consequences of allowing a level 3 biohazard virus to run rampant and cause so much sickness and death?

Especially due to maskless staff in hospitals and other healthcare settings.

I know Mark McGowan has had Covid at least once. Many people are now suspecting he's probably had it maybe 2 or 3 times and he's "burnt out" due to Long Covid.

Tragic.. and something that could have been so easily avoided by not removing mask mandates.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:03am

It's definitely getting to the stage where one could be excused for thinking the world has gone completely insane when an anime convention (in San Jose, California) has more Covid protections than healthcare settings in the US (and Australia) right now.

https://twitter.com/nickelpin/status/1662217426950561793 (then scroll down).

Quote:

Fanime 2023 COVID-19 vaccine check and pre-registration badge pickup, a complete smooth in and out in a mere 35 minutes at Friday 12 noon. I didn't stop walking at any point. The wristbands look sturdily made and waterproof although a bit long.

Stop the world, I want to get off.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:05am

Quote:

I know Mark McGowan has had Covid at least once.
Many people are now suspecting he's probably had it maybe
2 or 3 times and he's "burnt out" due to Long Covid.

And the vax didn't help him much did it?

Maybe he's a vax victim?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 8:52am:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 5:12am:

as a 50 kg woman expected to deal with the morbidly obese , she is kind of used to your type.

Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 30^th, 2023 at 10:09am

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

Quote:

I know Mark McGowan has had Covid at least once.
Many people are now suspecting he's probably had it maybe
2 or 3 times and he's "burnt out" due to Long Covid.

And the vax didn't help him much did it?

Maybe he's a vax victim?

Bobby I could be wrong but my take on the WA Premier is as follows:

He clearly (and foolishly) overworked himself by taking on BOTH WA Premier AND WA Treasurer positions. And he did this within the context of a global pandemic and global recession.

The stress and pressure alone would have caused next level exhaustion and burnout. What inevitably tends to happen after that is a physical and/or mental breakdown. Your energy and immunity levels are next to zero. Ultimately you become fair game for ANY virus (not just Covid19).

Note : All my siblings as well as my hubby have had physical breakdowns because of work pressure driven burnout. It tends to happen more readily these days (esp once you hit 40 and/or start earning around 200 K). People at certain management levels never clock off. They sleep with iPhones next to their ear and are texting emails 24/7. If these emails don’t sort out problems they get up to get into the office to handle the issue/s. They have no real life and need a round the clock support person back on the home front to handle everything for them.

Unfortunately some of these people find that by 60 they’re either dead or left struggling with serious life long health issues which will kill them before their time. It’s therefore important that our parents stay alive AND well to support us by not being sick themselves AND by giving us a hand here and there. For some of us ... that’s (sadly) not the case. 😔

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:14pm

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop

Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:03pm

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop

Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.

Then maybe you can explain why the most substantial risk factor for severe Cov-19, is INCREASING AGE? Or, why the average age of Australians dying with/from Covid-19 is around 85 yo? Why are the overwhelming numbers of deaths from Cov-19, from elderly Australians with 2 or more comorbidities(avg 3)? Why is it that almost 80% of Australians are being infected with this virus are under 40 yo? And yet over 80% of Australians who are dying from/with this disease are over 75 yo?

It doesn't take a genius to deduce that the condition of our immune system(vaccinated or not), and our general health, are the most important risk factors, that will determine the severity of this disease. Think of those people with primary immune deficiency, or who have acquired immune deficiency. Do you think that taking even 100 vaccines and boosters are going to help them? NO!!

It is probably the most obvious, and easily recognizable fact, that our immune system will gradually deteriorates as we age. It is a common sense and scientific fact, that our general health and ability to fight off pathogens, will gradually deteriorate as we age.

People with a stronger immune systems can be asymptomatic or non-symptomatic. They have over a 99% survival rate. And, those with a weaker immune system, will run the risk of moderate to severe symptoms, and even death. So, the severity of covid-19 depends entirely on the condition of our immune system. NOTHING ELSE! Not the climate, not the population density, not the number of weekly cases, not the media fear mongering, omissions and data manipulation, or even the percentage of the population who are vaccinated. NOTHING ELSE!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:27pm

I am not happy about the fact that many people of all ages (regardless of whether it is mainly the elderly and other people with health issues) are dying from something which is and was largely preventable by simple meaures such as wearing masks on planes, in airports and on public transport, etc.

And proper quarantine for overseas arrivals (too late for that now, of course).

I'm especially not happy about Covid infections of patients in hospitals and other healthcare settings where people are supposed to be safe.

The Australian Charter of Healthcare Rights states under Safety:

Be cared for in an environment that is safe and makes me feel safe

But, like the Health Acts of every Australian State and even an International Covenant that Australia is a signatory to (the sections regarding the control of epidemic and endemic diseases) this Charter is now ignored and not worth the paper it's written on anymore.

The gradual removal of Covid protections, starting with the removal of quarantine for overseas arrivals and ending with the removal of mandatory masks has been carefully planned and executed to make everyone (well, almost everyone) believe the pandemic is over and we're back in 2019 again.

Back to working and spending for the economy.

And nothing could be further from the truth as people are (slowly but surely) starting to realise.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:39pm

People with compromised immunity and the elderly should be very concerned about the possibility of catching covid19. And they should be just as worried about catching a common cold or influenza.

People who have a robust immune system or are not elderly should take care that the elderly or those with compromised immunity issues do not catch covid19 from them. Elevated hygiene practices should be in effect when you do catch a virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:02am

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:27pm:

I am not happy when anyone dies from any illness. regardless if it was preventable or not. Consider smoking, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, or obesity issues. The illnesses related to these abuses, are the most preventable deaths in medicine. Yet we give these abuses lip-service, or make only token efforts to address them.

But when confronted with a micro-organism smaller than the wavelength of visible light, we make claims that by wearing cloth/paper masks, that if 26 million Australians always keep 2 meters apart, that if we routinely wash our hands, and if we keep taking viral- spike-producing vaccines repeatedly, that this will protect us from being infected. And, will stop the infection from spreading. The stats alone have proven that these measures have been totally ineffective and impractical. Even in an ideal world, these measures would still be impractical and impossible to police!

If the immune system has been compromised because of aging, or from other comorbidities, even the common cold could become fatal. Remember, all the vaccines in the world are useless without a healthy immune system. Also, over 70% of the elderly infected with Covid-19, have also recovered. Covid-19 is NOT a death sentence, even for the elderly.

The other important issue, is the suspension of our basic personal freedoms. The most important is our freedom of choice. Once any government can force you to be injected with anything that they tell you is okay, is truly crossing the line. You should be the only person to FREELY decide what can go into your body. Red flags should start flying, whenever your decisions are made under duress, fear, coercion(jab or job), or under the threat of being discriminated against. This can create a very dangerous slippery slope in the future!

Finally, we are not talking about Ebola, HIV, Rabies, or Dengue fever. We are talking about a flu-like virus with a Case Fatality Rate less than that of the Measles! No matter how many ways you want to frame or parrot the media's ever-changing narratives, these claims will NOT be supported OBJECTIVELY by the facts.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:07am

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop

Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.

So you actually believe that your underlying health situation has no effect on how covid is going to affect you
Have you actually done anything except follow weird masking sites for the last 2 years

Your underlying health situation is the most important determinant of how you will cope with covid
And cope with it you will
Going down to Belmont plaza to go tisk tisk at all the unmasked people is going to result in you catching it eventually
Perhaps it's time to reconsider a new concept

I like to call it personal responsibility
Rare these days where it's much easier to just whine and be a sock on the internet
And now you've become a conspiracy theorist
Accusing doctors and nurses of reclassifying kovid patients of actually being influenza patients

Time to get out of the weird rabbit hole you have gone down
You are further down the rabbit hole then sir ast nail

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Captain Caveman on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:41am

The problem with the covid flu is that the knee jerk reactions around the world, controlled by investors, and the authoritarian control of corporate governments and media over the people has created a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

Societies have lost faith in governments and media, and most now realise that governments and media are corporations who put a price tag on control.
Plain and simple, there will be anarchy should the corporate governments and media take this authoritarian control angle again.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:43am

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:07am:

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop

Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.

So you actually believe that your underlying health situation has no effect on how covid is going to affect you

That's not what he said.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:45am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 3:39pm:

Proactive/precautionary practices minimises your risk of contracting many illnesses. Even Covid19.

This is an indisputable fundamental fact.

What IS at issue is this :

Defining 👉 “proactive/precautionary practices”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am

Well, it looks like I've reached an impasse (again) with ShellShilo and aquascoot.

Just going around and around in circles repeating the same things we've been repeating for the past year or two.

Tell you what... let's just leave things as they are for now and how about you both get back to me in, say, 6 months time?

I promise I will do my best to avoid saying "I told you so".

Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:19pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

she will probably be too busy looking after entitled old hypochondriacs to sign it.

bring it in if they like,

they cant attract staff at the moment, so wearing a mask all day should see more early retirements.

and the young nurses have NO interest in cleaning up after the old demented incontient patients.

so looks like the government will have to start training nurses in voluntary assisted dying

oh wait

they are

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:21pm

Implementation of voluntary assisted dying
The Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2021 (the Act) was passed in September 2021. It became available to eligible Queenslanders on 1 January 2023.

Voluntary assisted dying is an additional end-of-life choice that gives eligible people who are suffering and dying the option of asking for medical assistance to end their lives.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:52pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

Yes leave them as they are :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:47pm

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:19pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

:)

I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802 (now deleted)

Quote:

Mandating Masks In Healthcare: I will be ENDING this campaign as I can't even get 100+ likes, let alone more than several supportive comments - Few care to even spend 1 second placing a like

No wonder Govts can let it rip

No wonder indeed.

Quote:

Jonathan Stollery
@JWStol
·
15m
That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.

Yes, that's it. 100% correct.

Fxb3RgOaUAAMfEw.png (19 KB | 10 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:59pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:19pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802

Quote:

No wonder indeed.

[quote]Jonathan Stollery
@JWStol
·
15m
That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.

Yes, that's it. 100% correct.
[/quote]

carl doesnt that tell you something

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 5:14pm

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:59pm:

carl doesnt that tell you something

Yes, it did.

The vast majority of Westerners are naive, selfish, & cavalier.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 31^st, 2023 at 5:19pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 5:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:59pm:

carl doesnt that tell you something

Yes, it did.

The vast majority of Westerners are naive, selfish, & cavalier.

no

it tells you that YOU are in the vast MINORITY

this is usually refered to as a cult

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 5:22pm

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 5:19pm:

no

it tells you that YOU are in the vast MINORITY

this is usually refered to as a cult

As I said... get back to me in about 6 months time (maybe even less than that) and we'll see who's been right all along.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:19pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802

Quote:

No wonder indeed.

[quote]Jonathan Stollery
@JWStol
·
15m
That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.

Yes, that's it. 100% correct.
[/quote]

If you want to wear a mask go ahead it just proves you're a bedwetting science denier.

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus it's unlikely they will ever have mandates for these again.

Data from Random Control Trials (RCT) is conclusive masks are useless for covid.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus ...

One day, you might say something that's correct.

Today isn't that day, sweetheart.

"A total of 21 studies met our inclusion criteria. Meta-analyses suggest that mask use provided a significant protective effect (OR = 0.35 and 95% CI = 0.24–0.51). Use of masks by healthcare workers (HCWs) and non-healthcare workers (Non-HCWs) can reduce the risk of respiratory virus infection by 80% (OR = 0.20, 95% CI = 0.11–0.37) and 47% (OR = 0.53, 95% CI = 0.36–0.79). The protective effect of wearing masks in Asia (OR = 0.31) appeared to be higher than that of Western countries (OR = 0.45). Masks had a protective effect against influenza viruses (OR = 0.55), SARS (OR = 0.26), and SARS-CoV-2 (OR = 0.04). In the subgroups based on different study designs, protective effects of wearing mask were significant in cluster randomized trials and observational studies."

Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis

Conclusions

This study adds additional evidence of the enhanced protective value of masks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus ...

RCT are Random Controlled Trials the highest standard for evidence.

Masks don't work.

Dodgey studies are not the same standard as RCT which are gold standard.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:09pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus it's unlikely they will ever have mandates for these again.

Believe an uneducated internet troll, or 21 scientific studies? :-/

"A total of 21 studies met our inclusion criteria. Meta-analyses suggest that mask use provided a significant protective effect (OR = 0.35 and 95% CI = 0.24–0.51). Use of masks by healthcare workers (HCWs) and non-healthcare workers (Non-HCWs) can reduce the risk of respiratory virus infection by 80% (OR = 0.20, 95% CI = 0.11–0.37) and 47% (OR = 0.53, 95% CI = 0.36–0.79). The protective effect of wearing masks in Asia (OR = 0.31) appeared to be higher than that of Western countries (OR = 0.45). Masks had a protective effect against influenza viruses (OR = 0.55), SARS (OR = 0.26), and SARS-CoV-2 (OR = 0.04). In the subgroups based on different study designs, protective effects of wearing mask were significant in cluster randomized trials and observational studies."

Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis

Conclusions

This study adds additional evidence of the enhanced protective value of masks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:09pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus it's unlikely they will ever have mandates for these again.

Wrong again, sweety.

"A total of 21 studies met our inclusion criteria. Meta-analyses suggest that mask use provided a significant protective effect (OR = 0.35 and 95% CI = 0.24–0.51). Use of masks by healthcare workers (HCWs) and non-healthcare workers (Non-HCWs) can reduce the risk of respiratory virus infection by 80% (OR = 0.20, 95% CI = 0.11–0.37) and 47% (OR = 0.53, 95% CI = 0.36–0.79). The protective effect of wearing masks in Asia (OR = 0.31) appeared to be higher than that of Western countries (OR = 0.45). Masks had a protective effect against influenza viruses (OR = 0.55), SARS (OR = 0.26), and SARS-CoV-2 (OR = 0.04). In the subgroups based on different study designs, protective effects of wearing mask were significant in cluster randomized trials and observational studies."

Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis

Conclusions

This study adds additional evidence of the enhanced protective value of masks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:09pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus it's unlikely they will ever have mandates for these again.

you breath through a mask onto a glass what do you see ?? How is that stopping a virus :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:37pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

If you want to wear a mask go ahead it just proves you're a bedwetting science denier.

https://twitter.com/DoencaProf/status/1663743879798214658 (this is a parody account, btw)

Quote:

Condoms, seatbelts, safety goggles, harnesses = signs people are living in fear.

Quote:

Climate Action 183 +weekly covid deaths AUS
@ClimateActionN8
·
5h
Not eating raw chicken = living in fear .

Quote:

Prof Kathy Eagar
@k_eagar
·
5h
And don’t start me on safety fencing on cliffs

Quote:

Kiwi Prole 💉💉💉💉💉😷
@annect64
·
5h
Fencing off swimming pools has destroyed many a garden aesthetic.

Quote:

BigMatt
@B11GMatt
·
4h
Bungee cords… 😆

Quote:

TalulahSh Ark 🏳️‍🌈
@talulahshARC
·
3h
Sunscreen, gyms, soap, back up cameras, shoes, umbrellas, guns, insulin, viagra.

Quote:

Sue
@Sue19007777
·
3h
Helmets are soooooo restricting and ugly!!!! I far prefer to ride my horse with the wind in my hair and the sun burning my face!!!!

Quote:

Sue J
@SMpwrgr
·
2h
Seatbelts/harnesses = torso nappies
Safety goggles = eye nappies
Helmets = head nappies
Condoms = 🍆 nappies

Quote:

ian
@ian36613527
·
1h
ian
@ian36613527

·
1m
safety boots = toe nappies
hearing protection = ear nappies
personal gas detectors ( NH3, H2S, S02, CO, HCN, 02 depletion ) = lung nappies
welders hoods = eye nappies (ask ScoMo)
electrical safety switches = heart nappies
fume cupboards = lung nappies

And, you've brought up the Cochrane Review.... again...

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

You're welcome (again).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:09pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 6:42pm:

Masks don't work there is no evidence they work for respiratory virus it's unlikely they will ever have mandates for these again.

Believe an uneducated internet troll, or 21 scientific studies? :-/

Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis

I doubt anyone with more than half a functioning brain will believe a dickhead troll like you.

From your link

Quote:

4.5. Limitations and future perspective
The present meta-analysis still has several limitations. First, well-designed high-quality prospective studies and studies of masking in the general public are still insufficient.

Fourth, control subjects without masking are generally lacking in studies conducted in healthcare settings mainly due to the ethical issue.

We have current Random Controlled Trials (RCT) of masked vs unmasked which your link doesn't have any data on. What is the date on you link how much older and obsolete is it compared to Cochrane report?

Thanks for proving to everyone what a dopey dickhead troll you are. I don't know why i waste my time with dopey trolls like you
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Masks don't work case closed only an idiot would argue against RCT data.
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:41pm

People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia -

so the vaccines were fake.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

you breath through a mask onto a glass what do you see ?? How is that stopping a virus :D LOL

I see gas molecules that are way, way smaller than virus particles.

I suspect you've been looking at too many of those "BRAVE ENOUGH TO INJECT UNKNOWN SUBSTANCES BUT AFRAID TO BREATH AIR" stupid memes you post here from time to time.

Or are you the creator of them? :-/

And the gas molecules being so small is the reason why you can smell things like cigarette smoke and cooking smells (yes, even farts) through masks.

We've been through this many times on here.

Can You Still Smell Odours Through N95 Mask?

Quote:

You can still smell odours through N95 masks because the gas molecules are small enough to fit through the filters. N95 face masks are designed to stop viral-type diseases, such as COVID19, from spreading. While it can protect against large and smaller particles, the filtration isn’t enough to stop gas molecules.

(I notice Baronvonrort 'sailed' right past my previous post where I mentioned the Cochrane Review and he's posted the same image again) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:00pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:54pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 7:28pm:

you breath through a mask onto a glass what do you see ?? How is that stopping a virus :D LOL

So these bio hazard suits are totally pointless carl ?? Why don't we test an ordinary paper mask on you in a bio hazard environment and see if you are right carl ? :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:05pm

Multiple scientific studies, or a couple of internet trolls who barely graduated from primary school - who to believe? :-/

"A total of 21 studies met our inclusion criteria. Meta-analyses suggest that mask use provided a significant protective effect (OR = 0.35 and 95% CI = 0.24–0.51). Use of masks by healthcare workers (HCWs) and non-healthcare workers (Non-HCWs) can reduce the risk of respiratory virus infection by 80% (OR = 0.20, 95% CI = 0.11–0.37) and 47% (OR = 0.53, 95% CI = 0.36–0.79). The protective effect of wearing masks in Asia (OR = 0.31) appeared to be higher than that of Western countries (OR = 0.45). Masks had a protective effect against influenza viruses (OR = 0.55), SARS (OR = 0.26), and SARS-CoV-2 (OR = 0.04). In the subgroups based on different study designs, protective effects of wearing mask were significant in cluster randomized trials and observational studies."

Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis

Conclusions

This study adds additional evidence of the enhanced protective value of masks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:07pm

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

carl can see them with his magnifying glass :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:20pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

carl can see them with his magnifying glass :D LOL

Hi sir Brave Nail,
we have too many non-technical people here.
They don't see the world with our eyes.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:22pm

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:20pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

carl can see them with his magnifying glass :D LOL

Hi sir Brave Nail,
we have too many non-technical people here.
They don't see the world with our eyes.

and they take their medical advice from kyle sandilands :D LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNbmUYF_xNo

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:20pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

carl can see them with his magnifying glass :D LOL

Hi sir Brave Nail,
we have too many non-technical people here.
They don't see the world with our eyes.

and they take their medical advice from kyle sandilands :D LOL

And the late Shane Warne.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/entertainment/confidential/shane-warne-provides-update-to-his-fans-after-being-diagnosed-with-covid-19-ng-b881955096z

Quote:

Thank u for all the get well messages-they really mean a lot.
I’ve been double vaccinated so the Covid symptoms are mild, hopefully I will be up & about soon

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:48pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Carl,
viruses are so small that they can't be seen even
with the most powerful optical microscopes.

Even electron microscopes don't take clear pictures of viruses.

carl can see them with his magnifying glass :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:53pm

One of these days someone might correct the spelling mistake in that meme.

I'd do it myself right now but I'm on one of my laptops running Linux Mint and I haven't looked into how to do it on here.

Wait until I get back on the Windows PC later in the evening.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:07pm

Here you go, Bobby and Sir Nail.

Now, use it wisely (i.e. never again).

You're welcome.

:)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:29pm

And while I'm at it here's the other stupid meme you post from time to time that had the same spelling mistake and I've fixed it too.

Use this one wisely in future as well (i.e. never again).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:32pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:53pm:

One of these days someone might correct the spelling mistake in that meme...

LOL... well, considering that the anti-vaxxers know very little
about COVID, it doesn't surprise me that they also know very
little about spelling. Well, beyond 3rd grade primary that is.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:40pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:32pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:53pm:

One of these days someone might correct the spelling mistake in that meme...

LOL... well, considering that the anti-vaxxers know very little
about COVID, it doesn't surprise me that they also know very
little about spelling. Well, beyond 3rd grade primary that is.

We know more about Covid than the senile old boomers in theis forum.

These sitzpinklers and bedwetters are frightened covid is a boomer remover.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:47pm

"18th August 2021"

Cool. Now, let's look at something a bit more recent, shall we?

COVID-19 Mortality in Australia: Deaths registered until 31 March 2023

COVID-19 deaths that occurred by 31 March 2023 that have been registered and received by the ABS
Released
28/04/2023

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 8:00am

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:07pm:

Here you go, Bobby and Sir Nail.

Now, use it wisely (i.e. never again).

You're welcome.

:)

Thanks - added to memes:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1615449126/555#560

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 8:45am

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 1:19pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:28am:

I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802 (now deleted)

Quote:

No wonder indeed.

[quote]Jonathan Stollery
@JWStol
·
15m
That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.

Yes, that's it. 100% correct.
[/quote]

Anyway, Mirella didn't get anywhere with that petition but here's another one for you.

Vulnerable patients should not be contracting COVID in Australian hospitals

change.org

Quote:

Sick Australians, including cancer patients, transplant patients and the elderly, should be able to access life-saving treatment without contracting COVID.

In fact, safe access to healthcare is a right for all Australians. Healthcare providers should have multiple layers of protection to reduce risk, including safer air through clean air legislation and masks in healthcare settings.

Victorian data shows that 1 in 10 people who catch COVID in hospital die - that's 100 times the rate for the general population. In 2022, 4,477 people caught COVID in Victorian hospitals alone*. Data is not available for other states at this time.

5,023 have signed. Let’s get to 7,500!

You can thank me later if/when mandatory masks are reinstated in all healthcare settings and less patients stop catching Covid, getting even sicker (or in 10% of cases, dying).

And, yes... I have signed it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:16am

What do we even need hospitals for

According to Karl a person wearing a mask shall remain in perfect health indefinitely

If someone has their leg bitten off by a shark at a Perth beach
First aid should consist of the application of a mask
And then the person is fit to resume their holiday

A brown snake had a go at my ankle last year
I think it was probably the mask that saved me

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:22am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:16am:

That would have to be the most stupid post I have seen here in a long time.

Trust me - I've seen some almost unbelieveable ones lately (and from others besides yourself).

Especially when it's replying to my post about the need to reinstate mandatory masks in hospitals and all other healthcare settings.

::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:16am:

Think of a scenario of someone with covid was out near you, coughing up a storm, but wearing a mask. You are also wearing a mask. The mask cuts the likelihood that most of the virus will get pass the infected's mask. And your mask will shield you from breathing in most of the virus that does get through their virus.

I wonder if you use a handkerchief to sneeze into. Same principles.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:27am

AusGeoff wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:32pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:53pm:

One of these days someone might correct the spelling mistake in that meme...

LOL... well, considering that the anti-vaxxers know very little
about COVID, it doesn't surprise me that they also know very
little about spelling. Well, beyond 3rd grade primary that is.

This is all you need to know geoff ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:29am

Speaking of stupid posts...

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:27am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 11:32pm:

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2023 at 9:53pm:

One of these days someone might correct the spelling mistake in that meme...

LOL... well, considering that the anti-vaxxers know very little
about COVID, it doesn't surprise me that they also know very
little about spelling. Well, beyond 3rd grade primary that is.

This is all you need to know geoff ;)

... look who just turned up. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 10:57am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:16am:

Here you go, aqua.

Found these for you:

https://twitter.com/bufanator/status/1663606196350377984

Quote:

Calling this series: "We need to see your smile". Covid graphics for distribution: feel free to download, re-tweet & print out posters to put up in your community. Let's disrupt eugenics!

Maybe I should start printing them out and putting them up around the neighbourhood?

I have 3 printers here and lots of paper.

8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 11:03am

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 11:49am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 11:03am:

And garlic helps and really is safe and effective unlike the witches brew that kyle sandilands told everyone to take ;)

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1685529928

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 12:48pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 10:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 9:16am:

Here you go, aqua.

Found these for you:

https://twitter.com/bufanator/status/1663606196350377984

Quote:

Calling this series: "We need to see your smile". Covid graphics for distribution: feel free to download, re-tweet & print out posters to put up in your community. Let's disrupt eugenics!

Maybe I should start printing them out and putting them up around the neighbourhood?

I have 3 printers here and lots of paper.

8-)

you spend way too much time on twitter.

now mandatory masking COULD help save lives.

if it meant obese sloppy humans (1/2 the population) wore them 24/7 maybe it would cut down on their food intake.

you are welcome to share my insight with fellow cult members at the twitter mask cult

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by The Credible Poster on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 12:55pm

I'm surprised that no one here is talking about the link between the vaccine and a MS diagnoses.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm

Nom de Plume wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 12:55pm:

I'm surprised that no one here is talking about the link between the vaccine and a MS diagnoses.

There are lots of links with other ailments too such as accelerated cancers, heart inflammations, neurological conditions etc. but they will always use the lame excuse of "Correlation does not imply causation" if the medical event doesn't happen within a few seconds of taking the vax :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:47pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

"Correlation does not imply causation"

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 4:04pm

This looks promising.

Groundbreaking nasal spray protects against all SARS-CoV-2 variants

May 26, 2023

Quote:

University of Helsinki researchers have developed a molecule that, when administered nasally, effectively prevents the disease caused by all known variants of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The molecule, called TriSb92, can be a crucial tool in preventing the transmission and spread of the virus, particularly in anticipation of future pandemics.

In laboratory animal studies, TriSb92 was confirmed to offer effective protection against coronavirus infection by identifying a region in the spike protein of the coronavirus that is common to all current variants of the virus and inhibiting its functioning. The molecule is effective in preventing infection when administered nasally, even after a few hours of exposure, unlike face masks.

Quote:

Moreover, the molecule remains fully functional at room temperature for at least 18 months, making it well-suited for use as a nasal spray.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 5:52pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 4:04pm:

This looks promising.

Groundbreaking nasal spray protects against all SARS-CoV-2 variants

May 26, 2023

Quote:

[quote]Moreover, the molecule remains fully functional at room temperature for at least 18 months, making it well-suited for use as a nasal spray.

So, if this turns out to work as well in humans as it seems to do in animals so far I wonder what Sir Nail and the rest of the antivaxxers are going to do?

Call themselves something like "antinasalsprayers" or "antinosejobs" perhaps? :D[/quote]

garlic works just as well apparently and costs f.ckall and deprives bigfarmer their pound of flesh and that's what you want ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 5:54pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:47pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

"Correlation does not imply causation"

That's right carl if someone gets hit by a car and dies ten hours later it has nothing to do with the car accident ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 10:22am

And, yes... people are STILL dying of Covid in Australia.

https://covidlive.com.au/

114 deaths so far this week just from NSW and Victoria.

Cases down slightly (probably because hardly anyone is reporting their positive tests anymore), hospitalisations still going up.

Other States and Territories (except Queensland, of course) still to report.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 10:26am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:47pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

"Correlation does not imply causation"

That's right carl if someone gets hit by a car and dies ten hours later it has nothing to do with the car accident ;)

No.

If someone gets hit by a car and is then stabbed in the heart ten hours later it has nothing to do with the accident.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 10:30am

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:47pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

"Correlation does not imply causation"

Sir lastnail: "The seagull is sitting right on the spot where the fence railing is bent, therefore it must have been bent by the seagull - there's no other possible explanation".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:07pm

I look at this topic from time to time and I come away thinking 👉 WHY did I bother starting the topic???

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 10:30am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:47pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

"Correlation does not imply causation"

Sir lastnail: "The seagull is sitting right on the spot where the fence railing is bent, therefore it must have been bent by the seagull - there's no other possible explanation".

and next to it there is groggary caught out sucking the farts out of dead seagulls :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 1:24pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:07pm:

I look at this topic from time to time and I come away thinking 👉 WHY did I bother starting the topic???

Especially when we keep seeing replies like this one from Sir Nail:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

and next to it there is groggary caught sucking the farts out of dead seagulls :D LOL

What an intellectual giant our Sir Nail is. :D

151 deaths now from 3 States and the Northern Territory.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Nothing from Queensland, as usual (probably between 20 and 30 deaths there again this week with their "7 day rolling averages"). ::)

WA, Tasmania and the ACT still to report.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 2:15pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:07pm:

I look at this topic from time to time and I come away thinking 👉 WHY did I bother starting the topic???

Especially when we keep seeing replies like this one from Sir Nail:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

and next to it there is groggary caught sucking the farts out of dead seagulls :D LOL

COVID-19 update 2 June 2023

WA Health is reporting a total of 3,767 new cases in the past week to 4pm yesterday (1 June 2023). As of 4pm yesterday, there were 2,101 active cases in Western Australia.

As at 4pm yesterday, there were a total of 231 people with COVID-19 in hospital, with three in ICU.

Sadly, this week’s report to 4pm yesterday includes 15 deaths, dating back to 17 February 2022, which were reported to WA Health in the past week, aged from 72 to 95 years.

This increase in reported deaths is the result of a number of coronial investigations that have been finalised in the past week.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:09pm

Thanks Greg.

And I'm betting that even if Covid is mentioned in the paper or on the TV over the next few days all they will say is "new cases are down".

Nothing about the deaths and hospitalisations, of course.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:31pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 1:24pm:

Nothing from Queensland, as usual (probably between 20 and 30 deaths there again this week with their "7 day rolling averages"). ::)

Maybe we do not see the Wuhan Flu as much more than a mild inconvenience. One-third of Qlders have had covid since the year 2020. My entire family, including my nieces and nephew, have had the virus. They were all over it inside a week.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:43pm

Nah, I reckon Queensland was getting too close to 3,000 Covid deaths when they stopped providing the weekly numbers.

Reaching 3,000 wouldn't look too good for Annastacia and aquascoot's hero Dr. Gerrard.

https://covidlive.com.au/qld

2,977 deaths as of last week. And the week before.

If Covid Live added the 21 deaths calculated from this new "7 day rolling average" system (which they didn't do) it would have been 2,998 last week and adding another 21 for this week would make it 3,019.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:

dr gerrard

Dr John Gerrard, Chief Health Officer
BSc (Med) MB BS (Syd) MSc (Microbiology) DLSHTM DTM&H (Lon) FRACP

Dr John Gerrard will officially commence as Queensland’s Chief Health Officer in mid-December 2021.

Dr Gerrard completed his medical and specialist training in Sydney and London between 1980 and 1993 quickly becoming one of Australia’s leading infectious disease specialists. As a young doctor in 1993, Dr Gerrard rewrote Australia’s medical history by identifying the country’s earliest known case of AIDS.

Dr Gerrard moved to the Gold Coast in 1994 to take up the post of Director of Infectious Diseases at the Gold Coast Hospital. Like many other Australians, he first visited Queensland for Expo 88 and immediately fell in love with it.

The international threat of SARS in 2003 highlighted to Dr Gerrard the deficiencies in existing hospitals when it came to the risk of airborne infectious diseases. This led Dr Gerrard to help design the new Gold Coast University Hospital with the capacity to safely manage a pandemic such as COVID-19.

Throughout his time on the Gold Coast, he developed an international reputation for research in emerging infectious diseases and an organism called “Heterorhabditis gerrardi”, that glows in the dark, was named in his honour by American researchers in 2009. He is the only living Australian with a human pathogen named after him.

Since 2011 Dr Gerrard has been the principal investigator on a series of malaria vaccine trials in collaboration with Professor Michael Good from the Institute for Glycomics.

In 2014, he travelled to Sierra Leone during the West African Ebola epidemic. There, he formed part of a team that established Australia’s first Ebola Treatment Centre outside Freetown. Subsequently, he was awarded the Australian Humanitarian Overseas Service Medal.

More recently, Dr Gerrard managed Queensland’s first cases of COVID-19 when three families travelled from Wuhan, China in January 2020. Shortly after, he travelled to Tokyo as part of a mission to assist Japanese authorities in containing the outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the Diamond Princess.

These experiences led him to establish the GCUH as a COVID-designated hospital in 2020 in preparation for the arrival of the pandemic.

In April 2021, Dr Gerrard travelled to the Dutch Antilles as part of a Dutch-sponsored mission where he first experienced the full impact of COVID-19.

Dr Gerrard enjoys cycling and building and flying model aircraft. He is fluent in French. He and his wife, Anthea, have two adult daughters.
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

carls CV

expert at going to belmont plaza and going tsk tsk to the unmasked :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by The Credible Poster on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 3:41pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Jun 1^st, 2023 at 12:55pm:

I'm surprised that no one here is talking about the link between the vaccine and a MS diagnoses.

The WHO has advised that the mRNA covid-19 vaccine CAN cause Multiple sclerosis.

So to all the idiots that claim... "Correlation does not imply causation"... You are full of fake news. Do your research before you post.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:46pm:

carls CV

expert at going to belmont plaza and going tsk tsk to the unmasked :'( :'(

And an expert at making aquascoot type out ridiculous word salads at OzPolitic nearly every day.

By the way - it's Belmont Forum, not Belmont Plaza.

168 Australian Covid deaths this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Tasmania still to report and another 20 -30 deaths would probably need to be added for Queensland this week.

If/when Dr. Gerrard finds his calculator. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:08pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:

Some of my co-workers have been getting covid positive tests in the last year. They discover this a day after coming to work and interacting with other workers at close quarters. I am still yet to get covid. And the immune-compromised co-worker I had recovered sufficiently from her bout of covid, too.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:14pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 3:46pm:

carls CV

expert at going to belmont plaza and going tsk tsk to the unmasked :'( :'(

that not word salad, thats gerrards CV.

pretty impressive.

in fact AWESOME.

i think he is more in touch with the science than a pensioner with OCD.

you better get off the forum and dressed to go to the eagles game, what time are you picking up gweg. time to get in touch with the members of "real" australia

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 4:16pm

West Coast Eagles

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322406 likes.

mask petition, less then 100 likes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 7:34pm

183 deaths reported this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

The 14 deaths for Queensland are calculated from the "7 day rolling average" - 2 deaths per day this week apparently.

Hospitalisations are way up (+216) from last week.

Oh, by the way... I was reading something rather disturbing earlier today where people who have never been infected with Covid (as far as they know) are being deliberately exposed to the virus by their friends (and in some cases their own families) because their friends and families believe it is their "civic duty" to make sure everyone is infected. :D

They must be '"thinking" about that mythical herd or hybrid immunity we've been hearing about from people like aquascoot's hero in Queensland?

This probably also explains why the few remaining mask wearers are getting increasing abuse lately - the 'antimaskers' (i.e. the majority) believe the ones still wearing masks are prolonging the pandemic by trying to avoid getting infected.

Unbelieveable. So, if you're a 'Novid' (someone who has never caught Covid so far) it might be a good idea to keep that a secret - even from your own family.

It's like living in a zombie apocalypse.

I can just imagine aquascoot chanting "Go to the West Coast Eagles games Carl and get infected... and DO NOT WEAR A MASK... you must get infected or the pandemic will never end... Dr. Gerrard told me so..." ::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 8:16pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 7:34pm:

I can just imagine aquascoot chanting "Go to the West Coast Eagles games Carl and get infected... and DO NOT WEAR A MASK... you must get infected or the pandemic will never end... Dr. Gerrard told me so..." ::)

Yes, the perfect place to catch the deadly virus.

But what these anti-vaxxer morons keep forgetting/ignoring is long COVID.

Sure, the virus itself might only knock you out for a few days, but what will be the long-term effects?

Those morons who went out and caught COVID on purpose in order to gain some limited immunity from future infections, might have set themselves up for some serious health problems in the future.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 11:09pm

I forgot to mention earlier - with today's numbers Australia has now passed 21,000 Covid deaths since the pandemic started.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/deaths

21,063 deaths.

And, in South Australia the media is reporting on that State's first flu death this year:

https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/1664454173075857408

Quote:

BREAKING: South Australia has recorded its first flu death of the season. Details in 7NEWS Adelaide at 6pm

While this is tragic there's no mention of the 36 Covid deaths (Covid Live says 34) South Australia had last week or the 183 deaths for the whole of Australia.

Quote:

Al Prior
@AlrantAl
·
5h
You people are unbelievable.
One flu death…headlines
200 covid deaths/week….not a word?

Why do some deaths matter more to you than others?

Quote:

Wendy
@EcuNurse
·
2h
Wow! First flu death in SA makes the news.
Nothing about COVID deaths.
Despicable. Imagine how the grieving families feel. Death from COVID is not even worth mentioning.

Shocking and disgraceful.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by reggie1963 on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 9:35am

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 11:09pm:

BREAKING: South Australia has recorded its first flu death of the season. Details in 7NEWS Adelaide at 6pm

While this is tragic there's no mention of the 36 Covid deaths (Covid Live says 34) South Australia had last week or the 183 deaths for the whole of Australia.

[quote]Al Prior
@AlrantAl
·
5h
You people are unbelievable.
One flu death…headlines
200 covid deaths/week….not a word?

Why do some deaths matter more to you than others?

Quote:

Wendy
@EcuNurse
·
2h
Wow! First flu death in SA makes the news.
Nothing about COVID deaths.
Despicable. Imagine how the grieving families feel. Death from COVID is not even worth mentioning.

Shocking and disgraceful.[/quote]

What a shame lemmings like you weren't one of them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 10:42am

reggie1963 wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 9:35am:

What a shame lemmings like you weren't one of them.

lol... and there he is.

Finally plucked up the courage to say something, eh?

And you've still got that weird obsession with me, I see.

And I'm still not interested, by the way - whatever it is.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 8:40pm

Wow.

https://twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1664903521785790464

Louisa's daughter caught Covid at school recently (might have been the second time - not too sure), brought it home and infected her mother and possibly other family members.

Be sure to read the replies (keep clicking on "Show replies" and "Show more replies" if necessary).

I hope Louisa mentions this in the next column she writes for a local paper and it's shared far and wide.

Unbelievable.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 4^th, 2023 at 1:45am

reggie1963 wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 9:35am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2023 at 11:09pm:

I forgot to mention earlier - with today's numbers Australia has now passed 21,000 Covid deaths since the pandemic started...

What a shame lemmings like you weren't one of them.

Is this offensive comment really the best you can
offer this debate?

When you pass puberty, you may look back on these
sorts of childish comments with a certain degree of
well-earned embarrassment.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 11:23pm

This is absolute gold.

Watch Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff being questioned about Covid by Greens leader Cassy O'Connor.

https://twitter.com/CassyOConnorMP/status/1666298040175718400

Quote:

For an insight into why Tasmania has the highest SARS-Cov 2 transmission rate in the nation, here’s our part time Health Minister trying to explain why he led the National Cabinet charge with Perrottet to remove mandatory 5 day isolation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2rCtaBBdwE

That's the best 7 minutes and 22 seconds of YouTube I've seen in a long time.

Boy, doesn't Jeremy look really uncomfortable? And deservedly so. Seems to be lost for words most of the time.

And the head scratching and squirming is almost a dead giveaway that he really doesn't have a clue how to respond to Cassy's questions.

Now, someone needs to do this with our FIFO Prime Minister and the rest of the State Premiers so we can find out what's been going on with those Secret Squirrel National Cabinet meetings.

Might need to throw in aquascoot's hero Dr. Gerrard and give him a 'grilling' too, just for good measure.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 5:26am

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 11:23pm:

This is absolute gold.

Watch Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff being questioned about Covid by Greens leader Cassy O'Connor...

Thanks for the link. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

How can it be that a dickhead like this bloke can rise to the
highest political position in any Australian state?

There were so many tells in his demeanour: scratching his head,
rubbing his face, avoiding looking at O'Connor or at the camera,
rocking from one side to the other, continual umming and ahhing,
twice needing prompts, etc.

He'll be out next election. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 6:06am

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 11:23pm:

This is absolute gold.

Watch Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff being questioned about Covid by Greens leader Cassy O'Connor.

https://twitter.com/CassyOConnorMP/status/1666298040175718400

Quote:

Ever think you have gone down a rabbit hole Carl

I'm sure in some corner of Twitter
There are a bunch of people
Apoplectic with rage
About how monkeypox is being ignored

People like the incredibly well-rounded and informed Dr John Gerrard
Can't afford to have the obsessive-compulsive disease
Of the Twitter weirdo

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 10:55am

This is amazing.

There's even been people from overseas (Canada is one example) asking who Cassy O'Connor is and why they don't have any politicians like her.

Slowly but surely the lies regarding Covid are being exposed.

"Covid (Omicron) is mild"
"Covid doesn't affect kids"
"Covid isn't airborne"
"Covid is no longer exceptional and should be treated like any other respiratory illness" (it's more of a vascular illness that can and does affect nearly every organ in the body).

And many more.

And the day is getting closer when those responsible for Australia's disastrous "vaccines only then let it rip" approach will be held accountable.

That includes charlatans like Paul Kelly, Australia's Chief Medical Officer and aquascoot's hero Dr. John Gerrard, Queensland's Chief Health Officer.

Speaking of Paul Kelly - has anyone heard anything more about him since I heard he caught Covid a week or so back? Can't seem to find any online information at all now about him catching it, let alone how he's handling it.

Almost like there's a 'news blackout'... funny about that. Hope he's OK. Thoughts and prayers.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 11:33am

https://twitter.com/MsAmyLewis/status/1666418535520944129

Quote:

Rockliff: Well, there’s an area of personal responsibility for all of us.

O’Connor: It used to be called public health.

Thank you @CassyOConnorMP
for asking for the advice that was used to justify removal of isolation, it’s about time.

Yes, it most certainly is about time.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 5:12pm

Wow... Cassy is really on a roll here.

Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff yesterday.

Disability Services Minister Jo Palmer today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75k_t3oeoFQ

Tasmanian Greens leader Cassy O'Connor asks Disability Services Minister Jo Palmer MLC about what protections the Tasmanian Government puts in place to protect vulnerable Tasmanians with disabilities.

Direct YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75k_t3oeoFQ

Cassy for Prime Minister, that's what I say. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

https://twitter.com/CassyOConnorMP/

And she's been really looking forward to this week.

https://twitter.com/CassyOConnorMP/status/1666443877522235392

Quote:

It’s a Budget Estimates committee hearing from this past Monday … in the Premier’s portfolio area. Estimates on the State Budget bills are the one chance in the year we get to sit down for Q & As with Ministers like that. The Greens very much look forward to this week. 🪲

She was a journalist in "a past life" (and it shows). 8-)

Wonder who she's going to embarrass tomorrow? Is Albo in Tasmania at the moment? :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 10:24am

And the reaping continues...

143 deaths reported for NSW and Victoria this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Other States and Territories still to report.

Meanwhile...

Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton resigns from Department of Health to join CSIRO

Quote:

Victoria's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton is resigning from his position after four years in the role that saw him become one of the faces of the state's COVID-19 pandemic response.

Quote:

Professor Sutton will leave the Department of Health to take up a new position as Director of Health and Biosecurity at CSIRO from September.

And... I agree with Anna here.

Quote:

Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton resigns from Department of Health to join CSIRO - ABC News

Brett knows how bad it is and how bad it’s going to get.
He did a marvellous job until he was gagged.

I'm sure he does know exactly how bad it is and is going to get. Just like Jacinda Ardern and Mark McGowan did when they decided they'd had enough.

Quote:

I should add he still attempted to do his upmost whilst he was gagged.
Even being a NSW resident I looked for his reports..
He has always gone above and beyond.
Go well @VictorianCHO

Also...

Quote:

Matt Nisselle
@MNisselle
·
2h
After being gagged and sidelined by the change in legislation, I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did.
That must have been rough.
Thank’s for all your hard work Brett, and good luck for the future. 👍

Yes. Good luck Brett.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 3:27pm

196 deaths this week.
https://covidlive.com.au/

Could actually be 199 deaths.

https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1667037514534899712

Quote:

🔸Deaths: 199 (+15)
🔸Cases: 30,846 (-6,602)

🔹NSW: 11,719 / 81
🔹VIC: 6,135 / 64
🔹QLD: 5,474 / 14
🔹WA: 3,014 / 7
🔹SA: 2,593 / 24
🔹TAS: 964 / 4
🔹ACT: 811 / 5
🔹NT: 136 / 0

I presume the 14 deaths reported for Queensland come from the "7 day rolling average".

Probably the only thing we'll hear from the mainstream media (if we hear anything at all) is that cases are down.

And, as I've said before - that's only because most people are not bothering to test and report anymore (see the left hand news article here).

Hey, aquascoot - is it too early for me to say "I told you so?"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2023 at 10:18am

And the Covid carnage continues...

168 deaths reported so far this week just from NSW, Victoria and the Northern Territory.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Cases are down (due to people not reporting, of course) and hospitalisations are down a bit.

Hey, Bobby...there's speculation that Daniel Andrews might be 'stepping aside' soon.

https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1669450060394819587

Quote:

There is speculation that Victorian premier Dan Andrews is set to step aside with a succession plan in place that will see his deputy Jacinta Allan take the reins.

Another one 'bailing out' before the Covid sh!t really hits the fan... just like Jacinda Ardern, Mark McGowan and most recently, Brett Sutton.

He might also be having regrets over the massive number of Covid deaths as I'm sure the others did when they quit.

Another grim milestone as well this week - 8,000 (8,005) Victorian Covid deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

198 deaths this week with WA still to report.

https://covidlive.com.au/

What's going on, WA? You used to be one of the first to report Covid numbers, now even Tasmania has got theirs in before us. Hmmm...

Someone suggested that the Prime Minister should stand up in Parliament every Friday and read out the names and ages of all those who died from Covid that week.

And offer condolences to their families.

Yes, I agree (after all of the current 'distractions' are out of the way, of course).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 16^th, 2023 at 5:15pm

Carl.... keep up the good work.

I can’t thank you enough for providing the bottom line for us each time you post here.

It’s only after reading your posts over a period of just a few days that you get the picture of .... well of just how stuffed we all are. Yet people are walking around like they’ve never heard of Covid19. It’s beyond my understanding.

How I see it 👇

It matters not if you believe it’s a plandemic or a pandemic ... the take away point is this : TAKE proactive action to stay safe by erring on the side of caution. Your life is precious. Also others need you to stay well so again the message from me is to play it safe. If that means staying home more then why not do that? If that means putting on a mask in a supermarket then taking it off once you exit the place then why not do that? If you don’t believe in mask wearing then go shopping online OR go shopping early when hardly anyone is about.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2023 at 5:43pm

Thanks Lisa.

205 deaths for the week after WA finally reported their numbers.

https://covidlive.com.au/

The 14 deaths reported for Queensland are from their new '7 day rolling average' system (2 deaths per day) and is considered to be a 'mid point', i.e. deaths could be lower or even possibly about twice as many as reported.

Of course the only thing we'll probably hear in the media is that cases and hospitalisations are down... nothing about the shocking death total as usual.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 16^th, 2023 at 7:26pm

This past week, Victoria has had the highest COVID
death rate in Australia, with that number increasing.

There have been 3,956 new COVID cases this week,
down significantly from last week's total of 6,135 cases.

But... the state has 313 people in hospital with COVID,
and 17 in intensive care.

There were 113 new deaths recorded.
______________________________________________
We're in another COVID wave. But it's not like the others.

Each Omicron wave so far in Australia has had
distinguishing features—the sharp rise and fall of
BA.1, the widespread transmission among children
and families with BA.2, a shift to more infections in
older people with BA.5, then the confusing variant
mix in the summer wave of 2022-23.

Now Australia is in its fifth Omicron wave, which has
been brewing since February. But it has grown so
slowly that many people may have not realised it until
recently.

For the first time in Australia, the SARS-CoV-2 wave
may coincide almost completely with influenza and
RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) waves. The combined
impact of these three viruses may be significant.

Looking ahead, this combined threat will need careful
attention. Surveillance systems need to be re-designed
to detect, anticipate and forecast the combined burden
of acute viral respiratory infections.

—Excerpted from ABC News, 14 June 2023.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 8:33am

blah blah blah.

you are about 100 times more likely to die prematurely from your processed food diet and lack of exercise then some mild respiratory virus.

you old codgers just want to concentrate on masks and the like because thats "easy'

giving up donuts, bread, biscuits, soft drink , brekkie cereal and hitting the stairmaster is hard.

dont kid yourself, if you dont harden up, you are going to be taken out by your lifestyle, NOT by covid

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 11:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

you are about 100 times more likely to die prematurely from your processed food diet and lack of exercise then some mild respiratory virus.

Which "mild respiratory virus" would that be?

Not SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19), that's for sure.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1669933794227519490

Quote:

For those who keep telling us how dangerous flu is (which it is)

But deliberately failing to mention COVID

78 deaths

Vs.

4,159

Quote:

National notification data (NNDSS):
In the year-to-date, of the 85,986 notifications of laboratory-confirmed influenza, there have been 78 influenza-associated deaths notified to the NNDSS.

Versus

4,159 COVID deaths since 1 Jan

Quote:

50 times more Australians have died from SARS2 than influenza @AlboMP

Why is your Govt continuing to warn about flu and RSV but say little or nothing about COVID?

205 dead this past week alone

Quote:

Australians are being taken for mugs

Yes.

Yes we are.

Especially people like aquascoot.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 5:47am

And... aquascoot's hero, Dr. John "why do I look like I'm always constipated?" Gerrard (a.k.a. Dr. Death) strikes again.

Qld scraps COVID-19 alert system amid flu outbreak

Quote:

Queensland's traffic light advisory for COVID-19 will be scrapped as the state faces the threat of an early wave of flu cases.

Quote:

"I can announce with the chief health officer that we will be monitoring COVID much like any other respiratory illness," Health Minister Shannon Fentiman told reporters on Friday.

Except that it isn't much like any other respiratory illness (and they know it).

And, yeah... I'm sure they will be monitoring it. ::)

Quote:

"The traffic lights, as Queenslanders have come to know them, will end from today.

Wasn't much use anyway seeing as it's always been on Green since it started last October and even if it had changed to Amber or Red it wouldn't make any difference because even on Red indoor masks were only "recommended" and we've seen how much that (doesn't) work. That awesome "personal responsibility" at work again, eh, aqua? ::)

Quote:

"COVID does not pose the same threat that it once did, and we are going to treat it much like we treat the flu."

Except that COVID is still 53.32 times more deadly than the flu of course.

I'd sure like to see the "science" behind all this BS.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am

Carl thinks he is a more qualified scientist then Dr Girard

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Carl is a renowned conspiracy theorist who posted the he believes kovid patients are being reclassified as flu patients

Carl s very dangerous and should be deplatformed

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 8:00am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

Carl thinks he is a more qualified scientist then Dr Girard

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The only thing I'm laughing at right now is that you still cannot spell your hero's name correctly (and don't bother blaming your phone again).

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

Carl is a renowned conspiracy theorist who posted the he believes kovid patients are being reclassified as flu patients

Carl isn't (and hasn't) but your hero and that obvious idiot of a Health Minister (she's probably as useless and knows as much about health (i.e. nothing) as our own Amber-Jade Sanderson here in WA) seem to be doing just that.

From the linked article. Again.

Quote:

"I can announce with the chief health officer that we will be monitoring COVID much like any other respiratory illness," Health Minister Shannon Fentiman told reporters on Friday.

"The traffic lights, as Queenslanders have come to know them, will end from today.

"COVID does not pose the same threat that it once did, and we are going to treat it much like we treat the flu."

Translation: "We don't want COVID being a threat to tourism and the economy anymore and we are going to treat it much like we treat the flu (even though it is much, much worse than the flu)."

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

Carl s very dangerous and should be deplatformed

I can name a few people who should be "deplatformed" (including your hero and Queensland "Health" Minister Shannon Fentiman) but Carl isn't one of them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:10am

Here’s the topic I’ve been trying to find!

Carl ... keep posting up the stats.

People need to see the death count because these stats are not being overtly advertised as before.

Also people need to accept the brutal reality that the Covid19 vaccines to date have NOT put an end to this pandemic. We must continue to be vigilant.

We’re at the stage now where it no longer matters what you believe about vaccines or plandemics etc ... the fact remains : WE THE PEOPLE are stuck with a situation. I honestly don’t care who you are or what you believe in... just stay safe ie do whatever you can to stay alive and healthy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am

If you stay healthy and eat right, no matter how old you are or what your immunity situation is, for most people, this virus would be a once-off infection to cause you a little trouble health-wise. A reinfection will only be a mild inconvenience, as your body already knows how to handle the next bout of the virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 1:53pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 8:00am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

Carl thinks he is a more qualified scientist then Dr Girard

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The only thing I'm laughing at right now is that you still cannot spell your hero's name correctly (and don't bother blaming your phone again).

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

Carl is a renowned conspiracy theorist who posted the he believes kovid patients are being reclassified as flu patients

Carl s very dangerous and should be deplatformed

I can name a few people who should be "deplatformed" (including your hero and Queensland "Health" Minister Shannon Fentiman) but Carl isn't one of them.

carl in 2020 (we must listen to the politicians and the chief health officers and follow their advice)

carl in 2023 (we must not listen to the politicians and and chief health officers and we must not follow their advice).

make up your mind old boy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 1:56pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

nobody knows what that is.

some people after they get a bug, prefer to stay in their pyjamas and sit on the couch watching netflix.

and we are going to call that a medical condition, are we ::) ::) ::) ::).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 5:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 1:53pm:

Links (i.e. proof I said that in 2020) please.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 5:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 5:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 1:53pm:

Links (i.e. proof I said that in 2020) please.

::) ::) ::) ::)

i'm sure you were telling everyone it was just a mild respiratory virus and if we all took personal responsibility we didnt need to lockdown and close state borders ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:02am

The Govt. actually prevented doctors from prescribing
hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.

They should have NO right to interfere in the doctor patient relationship.
The Govt. are not doctors - they are bureaucrats.
We have a communist dictatorship to deal with.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:33am

https://expose-news.com/2023/06/26/covid-injections-have-killed-13-million-people-worldwide/#comments

Dr. Denis Rancourt: Covid injections have killed 13 million people worldwide

By Rhoda Wilson on June 26, 2023 • ( 26 Comments )

Dr. Denis Rancourt’s research has shown that the vaccination campaign in India caused the deaths of 3.7 million fragile residents. And, “in Western countries, we quantified the average all-ages rate of death to be 1 death for every 2,000 injections, to increase exponentially with age … We estimated that the vaccines had killed 13 million worldwide,” he said.

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Denis Rancourt has a PhD in physics. He held post-doctoral research positions at prestigious institutions in France and The Netherlands, before being a physics professor and lead scientist at the University of Ottawa for 23 years. He has written over 30 scientific reports relevant to covid, starting 18 April 2020 for the Ontario Civil Liberties Association and for a new non-profit organisation called Correlation. Presently, all his work and interviews about covid are documented on his website which he created to circumvent the barrage of censorship. You can follow Dr. Rancourt on Twitter HERE.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:51am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

Once you recover from your symptoms, you are not stuck with the effects of covid long term.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:40am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

Once you recover from your symptoms, you are not stuck with the effects of covid long term.

Some people take a long, long time to recover though.

It's different for everyone - that's one thing we know for sure about COVID.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

The Exposé (formerly known as The Daily Exposé) is a British conspiracist and fake news website created in 2020 by Jonathan Allen-Walker.

It is known for publishing COVID-19 and anti-vaccine misinformation.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

Once you recover from your symptoms, you are not stuck with the effects of covid long term.

Some people take a long, long time to recover though.

It's different for everyone - that's one thing we know for sure about COVID.

Usually the result of their life choices. I would take a long time to recover from influenza if I keep up this obesity.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45am:

Even so - each article should be judged on its merits.

If one article in 10 is false then 9 are true. ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:33am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45am:

Even so - each article should be judged on its merits.

If one article in 10 is false then 9 are true. ;)

It's a fake news site, and that "Doctor" has been fired and discredited.

10 out of 10 stories there are fake.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45am:

Even so - each article should be judged on its merits.

If one article in 10 is false then 9 are true. ;)

It's a fake news site, and that "Doctor" has been fired and discredited.

10 out of 10 stories there are fake.

Bullshit.
But - it does get a terrible rating here:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-expose/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:45am:

Even so - each article should be judged on its merits.

If one article in 10 is false then 9 are true. ;)

It's a fake news site, and that "Doctor" has been fired and discredited.

10 out of 10 stories there are fake.

Bullshit.
But - it does get a terrible rating here:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-expose/

Bias Rating: CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: VERY LOW

Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources.

Overall, we rate The Daily Expose a Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy and Quackery level Pseudoscience website based on promoting false and misleading information regarding Covid-19.

;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 10:20am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 7:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:26am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 11:22am:

Rocky ...I kinda sorta agree. Unfortunately there’s this ‘thing’ called LONG COVID 😩

Once you recover from your symptoms, you are not stuck with the effects of covid long term.

Some people take a long, long time to recover though.

It's different for everyone - that's one thing we know for sure about COVID.

Usually the result of their life choices. I would take a long time to recover from influenza if I keep up this obesity.

My husband has Long Covid.

He’s not been the same since getting all 4 jabs AND contracting Covid19.

The cumulative effects of all these jabs and infections have devastated his immune system AND left him with a few other medical issues. Last night he even stated that he’s thinking of retiring at the end of this year even though he’s not officially due to retire until he gets to 67.

Re Long Covid : I myself would never have believed it was real but because I’ve watched it slowly unfold before my very eyes over a period of 2 years destroying a decent hardworking family man ... my denial has been forced to cave in.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 10:29am

Remember: I’m totally UNvaccinated AND I’ve never had Covid19.

So I’m feeling very guilty right now because others have essentially put their lives and health on the line by going forward and taking all these rushed vaccines (1 ie AstraZeneca is now no longer available as it’s not considered safe) in the hope that their personal efforts would help eradicate Covid19 in the community.

Unfortunately Covid19 is still hanging around as I type and people are still being infected every day while others are still dying from it. Here in Australia. 😩

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:49pm

I am fully vaccinated and I have never had covid. I intend on getting my 3rd dose in the next month, just to keep the CQU/TAFE people happy. Given that I am going to study in a medical setting.

The thing that has made me sick over the last 2 years has been my constant drinking. If ever there was a time for catching covid, it would have been last year when I was at my worst. But, my immune system seems strong enough to withstand disease, at the moment.

Perhaps your husband has some underlying health issues unrelated to covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 1:27pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 12:49pm:

Rocky, you DEFINITELY need to be vaxxed if you’re going to work in the medical field.

Re my husband....I don’t know....he’s getting old I suppose.

I mean once men turn 60 ... all sorts of issues suddenly turn up. And IF they make it to 70 then you know...they’re basically needing chamomile tea, a soft pillow and plenty of bed rest.

We women tend to be different. I guess we just don’t have time to get sick and die. Plus who else will keep up with all the laundry, cleaning and cooking lol? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 8:19pm

It all would be age-related health problems. I have started developing muscle-related injuries (minor ones) ever since I turned 35 years old. And although my problems are related to poor diet, my age has made it difficult for me to recover from the injuries, even at 44 years of age. I could imagine in 16 years time, I might not be in all that good shape, even if I made a decent effort to try and be fit and healthy over the coming decade.

I looked quite ridiculous a couple years ago when I fell over outside my workplace. Ten years earlier, I would have got up very quickly and shook it off the injury as something minor. But, two years ago, I was rolling around on the ground doing a basic check to see that I had not broken something. My teenage co-worker treated me like I was some old man. I guess if I was 20kg lighter, I would probably not have fallen.

Your husband is probably suffering the symptoms related to the start of old age.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:03pm

Nonsense, my bil is nearly my age, 2 years in it I think, and he works part time helping his son run their auto parts store and does a lot of things, like building an area with raised vege beds surrounded by posts with 25% shade cloth, never still.

An uncle, in his mid-late 80s, flew here from England, etc.

I would be better off without this bloody arthritis etc but I am still kicking on at 76.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm

Monk, I agree that people over the age of 60 can be pretty fit. But, I think that Lisa's husband is a bit of a sook, if he cannot handle covid for a week. I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening. I could bet that the talk of an early retirement is probably due to not looking after himself in the last 10 years.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 5:23am

Well said rocky well said
Deterioration and failure are the norm unless you are proactive about it

What is the commonest reason for admission to hospital for an old person
A fall followed by a fracture

Is there something you can do to stop yourself falling

Absolutely

If everyday you practise standing on one leg and closing your eyes I'm trying to maintain your balance for 10 seconds you will have massively better balance

When you fall the commonest reason for hitting the deck is poor grip strength and the inability to grab a rail or furniture
To arrest your fall

Can you improve your grip strength

Absolutely

You can buy a pair of hand grips at Kmart for $10
Put them on the passenger seat of your car and everytime you are stopped at a red light pump your fingers and develop awesome grip strength

It's great to see rocky that you are starting to understand personal responsibility because that is the only thing that will save you

Our hospital system is a sick care system
It just lets you get sick and only then becomes interested in you

It is the equivalent of a car company selling you a car
And telling you nothing about servicing
Waiting till you break something
And then charging yourself or the taxpayer a fortune to replace or fix it

People service their car
So service your body

Two other very interesting studies

The two most rapidly rising conditions of old age
Dementia and Parkinson's disease
Are closely correlated with a lack of blood circulation through the brain

Sitting and lying down are disastrous for these conditions
You simply have to move
Get yourself a treadmill and just walk slowly whilst you watch Netflix or whatever else it is you are watching

Get yourself a whoop strap and get above 10000 steps per day everyday
Personal responsibility is where it is at rocky

Things like vaccines and cholesterol-lowering drugs
Are expensive Band-Aids that have very little to do with health

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.

::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 9:09am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

Not true.

My husband had a terrible time with Covid19 for a number of weeks (AFTER each jab too).

Note : He’s had 4 jabs (up to date vaccine passport is an essential workplace requirement for him)

Re being a sook ... most men are so doesn’t that make him normal??? 😂🤣😆

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening.

Whether you've seen it or not is irrelevant - it is indeed happening.

"Current prevalence estimates of long COVID (defined as >12 weeks) in Australia range from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases."

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening.

Whether you've seen it or not is irrelevant - it is indeed happening.

"Current prevalence estimates of long COVID (defined as >12 weeks) in Australia range from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases."

Long Covid has become a scourge and people are claiming compensation for it from our Federal govt.

That’s why I keep posting that this pandemic is NOT over folks.

Right now as I type :

1. People are STILL getting INFECTED
2. People are STILL DYING
3. People are STILL AFFECTED <—- this is where long Covid slots in

by Covid...every day. In Australia.

One of our forum members - Carl is faithfully researching and posting up the stats for us each day because MMM isn’t reporting the stats like it used to.

The brutal reality re vaccines : vaccines haven’t resolved Covid. In fact vaccines can’t keep up with the mutant Covid strains. Some vaccines have unfortunately proven to be dangerous and are no longer available.

What we CAN do is this : understand and accept the current situation for what it is ie shitful and take responsibility for our own safety. It matters not what you believe regarding this pandemic or plandemic .. it’s time to move on from that and focus on staying healthy AND out of hospital. The Covid death rates are HIGHEST in hospital environments.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening.

Whether you've seen it or not is irrelevant - it is indeed happening.

"Current prevalence estimates of long COVID (defined as >12 weeks) in Australia range from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases."

Diabetics would likely suffer long covid more than other people. Allegedly, the covid targets the insulin production or functionality -- whichever it is -- making it difficult to deal with blood sugars. A type 1 diabetic online said that her injecting insulin was about as effective as injecting water.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening.

Whether you've seen it or not is irrelevant - it is indeed happening.

"Current prevalence estimates of long COVID (defined as >12 weeks) in Australia range from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases."

Absolutely.

The sad irony is, if you're sick you should keep well away from hospitals.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:11am

Yeah, some time soon apparently I need my titanium hip replaced.

I really need a cochlear implant

But will wait and see how things look.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:11am

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am:

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.

::)

Aqua, Carl needs advice not only on how to improve his balance and grip but also his attention span.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

I don't believe in this "long covid" rubbish, as I have yet to see an example of it happening.

Whether you've seen it or not is irrelevant - it is indeed happening.

"Current prevalence estimates of long COVID (defined as >12 weeks) in Australia range from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases."

Absolutely.

The sad irony is, if you're sick you should keep well away from hospitals.

That’s basically where it’s at. Of course what’s even more effective is to do everything you can to avoid getting sick in the first place. We all have different medical conditions because these are affected by age, genetics etc so my race to stay healthy will be different to yours.

Due diligence starts with individuals being proactive about their health and safety as well as those they interact with. We know about WORK place health and safety ... yes? Well we need to apply those principles to EVERY place.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:44am

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:11am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am:

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.

::)

Aqua, Carl needs advice not only on how to improve his balance and grip but also his attention span.

i think carl knows deep down that doing balancing exercises and improving grip strength are worthwhile, they certainly would have been worthwhile for his aunt.

but they require effort and carl isnt into that.

i got onto these guys when a slipped a disc and have been doing their back exercises every day , ever since.

they offer good sensible advice.

they are much more helpful then carl ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atMJ2opvCvo

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:44am:

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:11am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am:

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.

::)

Aqua, Carl needs advice not only on how to improve his balance and grip but also his attention span.

I'm fairly certain a few people here have no problem whatsoever with their grip strength.

I have absolutely no doubt they're "exercising" it almost constantly.

One can only hope that the old myth about it also making you go blind isn't true for their sakes.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:41pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am:

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.
::)

LOL... yes mate, I was just thinking the same thing
as I read his usual "health" rant.

So many unfounded claims. Such a lack of any citations. A total lack of common logic.

And the Gold Logie for... the analogy of servicing your
car with looking after your body!

(I must remember to book my pancreas in for
its 76-year service next week.)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:49pm

All total bullshit:

Quote:

Dr. Denis Rancourt’s research has shown that the
vaccination campaign in India caused the deaths of
3.7 million fragile residents. And, “in Western
countries, we quantified the average all-ages rate of
death to be 1 death for every 2,000 injections, to
increase exponentially with age … We estimated that
the vaccines had killed 13 million worldwide,” he
said.

Check this out...

The Exposé.

—Sucked Bobby right in though. :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:51pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:49pm:

All total bullshit:

Quote:

Check this out...

The Exposé.

—Sucked Bobby right in though. :D

Yes, I told Bobby that it's a fake news site but he didn't seem to care.

The Exposé has falsely linked the COVID-19 vaccines to AIDS, miscarriages, monkeypox and hepatitis.

The website has also downplayed the number of deaths due to COVID-19 in the United Kingdom and falsely claimed that the vaccines are causing mass deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Absolutely.

The sad irony is, if you're sick you should keep well away from hospitals.

Definitely.

I'm a bit relieved now that my aunt was transferred from Royal Perth to Bentley Hospital on Monday afternoon. She had the operations on her left hip and wrist at RPH last Wednesday (they did both at the same time so she only needed to be anesthetised once).

She's in the Rehabilitation section of Bentley Hospital - I saw her there yesterday - and she's slowly on the road to recovery. They have her walking around (with assistance, of course) daily. She still has her mask and insists that she wear it when going for the walks, etc.

I'm also glad she now has her own room at Bentley and she can also watch TV there without having to pay for it like you have to do at RPH. If she'd been staying at RPH much longer I would have paid so she could watch some TV.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:10pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 1:41pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 8:24am:

Gawd almighty!

Just when I reach the point where I believe aquascoot cannot get any worse with his word salads he always manages to rise to the 'challenge'.
::)

lol,

you wouldnt put dirty fuel in your car , but you put dirty fuel in your stomach.

since you brought up pancreas. there is heaps of things you can do in terms of "personal responsibility"

Research undertaken by the World Health Fund suggests that office jobs where the worker spends a long time in a stationary position increase the risk of developing pancreatic cancer. In contrast, workers who need to be active most of the day have a greater degree of immunity.

Since diabetes is a disease of the insulin-producing pancreatic cells, it follows that people with type 2 diabetes face an increased risk of developing pancreatic cancer.

The list of health problems potentially facing people who are overweight includes pancreatic cancer. The more weight someone carries, the greater the amount of insulin their pancreas produces. Some scientists identify this as a possible disease trigger. Studies conducted within the last decade show that in ten percent of cases, pancreatic cancer could be linked to weight. Some studies also show that carrying excess fat around the waist is linked with a higher risk, even in people who are not overweight.

not to mention ceasing cigarette smoking , ceasing alcohol and eating green vegetables which has been shown to reduce risk

send your white flag with carls.
he has the address ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:15pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Absolutely.

The sad irony is, if you're sick you should keep well away from hospitals.

why was she in hospital

could it have been a fall perhaps

and yet you laugh at the idea of doing exercises to improve balance.

what a weirdo

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Absolutely.

The sad irony is, if you're sick you should keep well away from hospitals.

Ah, good to hear.

I always try to get my mother transferred to Bentley as soon as I can.

A much nicer hospital, and they seem to take COVID a little more seriously.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:31pm:

Ah, good to hear.

I always try to get my mother transferred to Bentley as soon as I can.

A much nicer hospital, and they seem to take COVID a little more seriously.

Thanks Greg.

I did notice more staff wearing masks at Bentley than I saw at RPH.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

why was she in hospital

could it have been a fall perhaps

and yet you laugh at the idea of doing exercises to improve balance.

what a weirdo

Yes, she did slip and fall.

A week and a half ago.

She's 93 years old in case you don't know (I have mentioned it a few times over the past 12 months or so but I guess with your obvious comprehension issues you must have forgotten).

And I don't believe too many people will be doing exercises to improve their balance at that age.

Tell you what - I'll show her your post when I see her again tomorrow and I'll let you know what she says (if the forum word censor allows it).

aquascoot wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

send your white flag with carls.
he has the address ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Actually, I don't. And I'm still waiting for the dozen or so that you still owe me (don't forget to add another one for your latest stupid posts in this thread).

Thanks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 4:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:31pm:

Ah, good to hear.

I always try to get my mother transferred to Bentley as soon as I can.

A much nicer hospital, and they seem to take COVID a little more seriously.

Thanks Greg.

I did notice more staff wearing masks at Bentley than I saw at RPH.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 28^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

why was she in hospital

could it have been a fall perhaps

and yet you laugh at the idea of doing exercises to improve balance.

what a weirdo

send your white flag with carls.
he has the address ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Actually, I don't. And I'm still waiting for the dozen or so that you still owe me (don't forget to add another one for your latest stupid posts in this thread).

Thanks.

hi there carl

why dont you ask her physio if balance exercises and grip strength are important ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:19am

How can anyone (even the pollies) consider this even remotely acceptable?

155 deaths this week just from NSW and Victoria.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Of course, the only thing we'll hear about from the media (if we hear anything at all) will be that cases and hospitalisations are down.

Cases are down because hardly anyone is reporting their positive cases as usual these days.

And hospitalisations are probably down because a lot of the people in hospital are dying (in larger and larger numbers).

Disgraceful.

Other States and Territories still to report.

And aquascoot - don't even think about posting one of your word salads about exercise and personal responsibility. I'm not in the mood.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:29am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

How can anyone (even the pollies) consider this even remotely acceptable?

155 deaths this week just from NSW and Victoria.

The answer is sad, but true.

They find it acceptable because those people were probably quite old and on the pension.

The government now has 155 less pension payments to make.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:44am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

correct.

you are not in the mood for anything but whining and complaining and self pity

i'll leave you to it.

let us know how effective that strategy is ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 3:52pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

Can I just add a little CONTEXT to the stats you've provided? Lets just ignore any direct/acute causalities, ongoing serious comorbidities, age, or any other contributing health issues. Lets just focus only on the resulting stats. WITHOUT ANY CONTEXT, PERSPECTIVE, OR ADDED CLARITY!

The population of NSW is 8.2M Australians. The population of Victoria is 6.7M Australians. The total population of Australia is 26.4M Australians. The average number of ALL Australian deaths annually, is around 160K(over 3K per week). These deaths(from all causes) represent less than 1% of our total population. The weekly death stats from NSW and Victoria represent only 5% of the total weekly death stats. This means that 95% of all weekly deaths in Australia are NOT covid-19-related!

Taking anything that forces our muscle cells to start producing anything foreign to the body(viral spikes), is a big red flag. Forcing, shaming, discriminating, or coercing Australians to put anything into their body against their will, is another big red flag. Taking multiple boosters each year, is also another red flag.

Finally, we are talking about a flu-like virus, with a case-mortality-rate less than the measles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

Over 98% of covid-19 sufferers WILL recover. And, over 80% of covid-19 sufferers will only develop zero to mild symptoms.

So, unless you want to add more CONTEXT to these stats(age, comorbidities, medications, prior/continuing health issues, etc.), you are just parroting the establishment's irresponsible fear-mongering rhetoric(by omission), and pandering only to the fears of the least informed.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

205 Covid deaths reported for Australia this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

I could have sworn Anthony Albanese and the ALP announced before last year's Federal Election that there was going to be a Royal Commission into the way Australia (mis)handled the pandemic if the ALP won the election.

Obviously to try and score political points against Scott Morrison and the Liberals.

Well, we're now well over year past that election and still no Royal Commission? I'm guessing since Airbus Albo now has a lot more Covid deaths on his hands than Scott Morrison he's now switched to "I won't say anything else about a Royal Commission and hopefully it won't take long for everyone to forget about it" mode. Most probably already have.

The other thing I believe I heard last year was that there won't be a Royal Commission until the pandemic is over... well, there's certainly that. The pandemic is obviously FAR from over.

But I'm sure we won't hear anything more about that as well... because we're all supposed to believe and pretend the pandemic IS over.

Bit of a conundrum for poor old Albo. May it haunt him and his government to the next election and beyond...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 7:06pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

Thanks Carl. As per usual you’ve been faithfully recording the continuing stats on infections and the death toll from Covid19.

Looking at the data it’s clear that we are still facing a virus that no vaccine can catch up to.

We MUST do our due diligence if we are to survive this scourge and that means keeping up with the stats which MMM is no longer reporting (as it once used to).

It also means doing whatever we can that works for our personal medical circumstances and not leave things to chance.

Cheers

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 1^st, 2023 at 1:31am

3500 people died in Australia every week. Of which 205 people died with the covid virus in the previous week.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 11:47am

The Covid deaths are still continuing at an alarming rate.

I didn't report last week's numbers :https://covidlive.com.au/archive/20230707

130 deaths last week.

So far this week we have 109 deaths just for NSW and Victoria.

https://covidlive.com.au/

543 new cases for Victoria this week - yeah, right. Even 2,854 new cases for NSW would be way, way below the real numbers, they're probably 10 or even 20 times more.

Other States and Territories still to report.

Meanwhile, like the NSW government says - just keep cleaning those hands, I'm sure everything will be just fine. ::)

Speaking of fine, the best advice is in the 'fine print' at the bottom. Especially the part about mask wearing (oops, can't say that - it upsets business too much).

Oh, and Australia has passed the grim milestone of 22,000 Covid deaths today as well.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 5:39pm

119 deaths reported for Australia this week.

22,066 deaths since the start of the pandemic.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Not a word from the pollies or the media as usual, I'll bet.

Funny how a couple of flu deaths make the front pages of the newspapers and are seen on the TV news but between 100 and 200 Covid deaths a week don't even get a mention.

Shameful is the politest way for me to describe it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 8:08pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 5:39pm:

Extremely polite.

It's bordering on criminal.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 11:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 5:39pm:

Extremely polite.

It's bordering on criminal.

It is totally weird. Why a flu gets more notoriety and covid swept under the carpet?
It’s obvious they’re deterring/hiding something from the public?

Oh….and I found this interesting … but we know “move on, nothing to see here!” ::)

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSLPAGHBr/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 5:31am

Carl D wrote on Jul 14^th, 2023 at 5:39pm:

Not a word from the pollies or the media as usual, I'll bet.

Funny how a couple of flu deaths make the front pages of the newspapers and are seen on the TV news but between 100 and 200 Covid deaths a week don't even get a mention.

Shameful is the politest way for me to describe it.

Probably because it is just 119 deaths of people with covid. Covid is one of the most transmissible diseases of recent years. The Baby Boomers are getting old and will be featured as the main victims of covid. But, if 120 deaths were attributed with influenza, you would probably sweep that under the carpet.

Covid takes longer to develop than influenza. I have had neither disease in the last 3 years. If I had covid, I did not know about it. Influenza is going on about 4 years since I last had it bad. The sniffles is all I have suffered in the last 2 years.

If you cannot handle covid after 3 years of the virus being around and after 2 doses of the vaccine, you were going to die this year anyway.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 6:49pm

91 Covid deaths reported in Australia this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

The number of new cases is suspiciously low. Especially Victoria where I believe the case numbers for the past few weeks are so low only because PCR tests (which are almost impossible to get these days) are counted. No RATs are included in the total.

I wouldn't be surprised if the other States start doing that soon if they're not already. The SA and WA cases also look a lot lower than I believe they should be to me.

And, as usual, hardly anyone is bothering to get tested.

The 6,251 reported cases would probably be (at least) 10 or maybe 20 times higher.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 24^th, 2023 at 3:12pm

Interesting thread here. And 100% spot on in my opinion.

https://nitter.net/PrognosticChats/status/1682760301815496704#m

(Since Space Karen has fubared Twitter beyond all hope of salvation I have to use Nitter instead).

Quote:

We are in the era of deep denial. It started with general society, it’s now impacting healthcare.
Achieving this state was pretty clever you have to admit. We didn’t arrive here by accident. It has been a global systematic co-ordinated effort.

Let’s look at it 🧵

Quote:

1. Rebrand the pandemic virus & its consequences

The pandemic branding team deserve a gold star ⭐️

Brain damage = “brain fog”
Cardiac damage = “fatigue”
Long Covid (vascular disease affecting every organ system)= “anxiety”
A leading cause of death worldwide = “mild”
Hospital admissions = “probably in with something else”

Quote:

2. Stop government press conferences & silence media reporting. Remember hearing about the excess 100,000 cardiovascular deaths since Covid in UK or the ongoing excess deaths since 2020 globally? Or that the Pandemic isn’t over? No?
Ah yes, none of that is in the news.

Quote:

3. Once media is shut down, you can safely stop surveillance systems like the ONS Survey without it being reported. The detailed data reporting can disappear. That’ll fix the numbers & perpetuate the belief it’s gone.

Quote:

4. Media shift again. Introduce a level of gaslighting to the general conversation with the public. Constantly refer to the pandemic in its past tense, let them believe it’s over by actually saying it now. Minimise any other belief. This leaks down to general public conversation.

Quote:

5. Some clever actuaries note the excess deaths still show we are in trouble. Solution; bury this final important data by shifting the baseline it’s measured against, include pandemic years in “normal deaths”, so excess deaths are now the “new normal".

Quote:

6. Now that the data is fully gone, media & government can talk about Covid having magically disappeared & the population conditioned to automatically minimise Covid/Long Covid or gaslight if presented with any factual evidence of its harm, it’s time to get rid of masks in 🏥

Quote:

Seems like a good time now to implement the withdrawal of masks in healthcare happened globally. Occurred around the same time. Had anything changed? Immunity gifting vaccine? New treatment? No longer killing or disabling?
No; 1 death globally every 3 mins when this move was made.

Quote:

So here we are. Same virus. >20 millions dead & >400 million living with its consequences globally since it appeared 3.5 years ago. Sure, an infection causes brain damage akin to ageing 10 years, what harm can a few dances with that do over the coming years?

Quote:

A job well done by governments & those focused on the economy more than health.
It’s a shame there won’t be a human alive clever enough to implement such a machiavellian scheme in the years ahead. Our brains will all be too damaged.

Yep, can't argue with any of that.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 24^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 24^th, 2023 at 3:12pm:

[quote]1. Rebrand the pandemic virus & its consequences

The pandemic branding team deserve a gold star ⭐️

Brain damage = “brain fog”
Cardiac damage = “fatigue”
Long Covid (vascular disease affecting every organ system)= “anxiety”
A leading cause of death worldwide = “mild”
Hospital admissions = “probably in with something else”

Quote:

Yep, can't argue with any of that.[/quote]

no ones reading that word salad.

can we have the west coast eagles score please?

much more newsworthy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 24^th, 2023 at 3:34pm

Good you see you've read it, aquascoot.

Despite claiming otherwise.

Whether you understood any of it is an entirely different matter, of course.

(I'm guessing you didn't).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 24^th, 2023 at 4:02pm

no one is talking about covid.

meanwhile at the eagles latest post on facebook

West Coast Eagles

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com › ... › West Coast Eagles
16 hours ago — West Coast Eagles. 322421 likes · 29386 talking about this

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Agness on Jul 25^th, 2023 at 9:27pm

Jake Winker Frogen has covid right this minute- he plays with booze but looks like he is pulling through- he is all good!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Jul 25^th, 2023 at 10:26pm

Agnes. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2023 at 9:27pm:

Jake Winker Frogen has covid right this minute- he plays with booze but looks like he is pulling through- he is all good!

That’s good to hear he is pulling through.
I wish someone knew how Jasin/Xavier is going. It’s been too long :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Agness on Jul 25^th, 2023 at 11:20pm

JWF is doing well- he must be ready to have a beer soon- went off it for a couple of days- xavier is just messing around at another forum- looking for a girl lol-

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jul 26^th, 2023 at 2:40pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

I'm so sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, this virus forces our immune system to go into overdrive. Were there any other comorbidities, or other serious medical issues involved?

Clearly, the only factor that can determine our survival rate, is the condition of our immune system. NOTHING ELSE! Our immune system is the ONLY system in the body that is specifically design to fight any/all pathogens.

Again, my condolences.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Jul 27^th, 2023 at 12:56am

ShellShilo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2023 at 2:40pm:

Unfortunately, this virus forces our immune system to go into overdrive. Were there any other comorbidities, or other serious medical issues involved?

Clearly, the only factor that can determine our survival rate, is the condition of our immune system. NOTHING ELSE! Our immune system is the ONLY system in the body that is specifically design to fight any/all pathogens.

I’ve been watching and reading much of what is being written about the corona virus and the covid injections.
It’s always a time factor that reveals stuff.
As I’ve stated times before that in jan 2022 myself, hubby and daughter all caught that dreaded corona virus. It was no picnic in the park!
I am grateful we survived it, but… long term effects we know some people are more affected than others.
Me and my family have not suffered the debilitating fatigue that a few seems to have, young ones too!
I do wonder what this corona virus is about… it’s not like the normal flu, I usually get over it within 4 days with my health regime in place.
But…. since having this corona virus, I lost my hair, taste and smell for most of 2022.
My hair has come back and the other day I could smell and differentiate between perfumes when before, for me, everything smelt like coffee.
My daughter said everything smelt metallic to her.
Our smell is not 100% recovered but seems to be improving in time… once again with our health regime in place and I do spend a small fortune on supplements. I don’t drink fluoride water, and I source buying organic foods.
Yes it takes an effort but it’s worth it when one can see the healing taking place as we assist our immune systems.
I know not everyone will do what I do but I am living proof I survived a horrid time with COVID.
I’m therefore grateful for my immune system.
Hence why I feel I have anti bodies now so I do not want to overload my immune system with any of these constant COVID jabs …. I’ve not needed it….I’ve been good as since… and no pushy fear mongering tv media was going to convince me they know me better than I do.
My body, my free choice, as should be anyone’s choice…. if others feel comfort for the need to have those COVID vax…. that’s their choice… but it wasn’t the choice for many that were cornered with the “no jab no job” bs …. and then all the horrid segregation of jab and unjabbed. Half our family ignored the other half Xmas 2021. Oh now they’re all friendly again …. but I’m having a constant battle forgiving them for their fear driven ostracism of us at the time. It’s as if I’m wondering…. would they do it again?
…. time is revealing….
Funny how big work places are now going to destroy all information of employees re: their medical records having the jabs?
Is that really necessary?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 7:17pm

Oh, just in case anyone's wondering...

168 Covid deaths reported in Australia this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Covid Live is getting a bit 'slack' lately, they haven't reported the 30 deaths for South Australia yet even though SA Health reported it hours ago.

Edit: now been updated by Covid Live

No info from the Northern Territory either by the looks of it. Queensland allegedly have no deaths this week although I find that hard to believe with their '7 day rolling average' system. They're probably about to stop reporting Covid info altogether (must have something to do with that "science" aquascoot keeps telling us about). ::)

60 deaths reported for WA this week. :o

Some of the deaths date back to March but we don't know how many thanks to former failed Health Minister and soon to be failed Premier (the latest polls don't look too good) Roger Cook not giving us any details.

No wonder Mark McGowan 'pulled the plug' a few months back, no doubt he knew the (Covid) sh!t was going to hit the fan very soon.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:12pm

60 deaths :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 8:10am

Carl D wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

This topic is probably the most important on OzPol.

It’s the quiet news articles (not just those which quietly update behind the scenes throughout the day) ....WHICH WE ALL NEED TO BE LOOKING AT MORE CLOSELY!

A very big thank you to Carl for being so faithful in updating this topic for us. I really mean that. 🙏

I’ve recently locked in a BreastScreen appointment and as I’m totally UNvaccinated I’m dreading that appointment. Due diligence has been undertaken of course. I’ve structured the appointment so it’s at 8.30 am (1st appointment for the day) which means no one else will be in the hospital waiting room when I get there and the machine will be sanitised clean and unused from the previous day. I’ll be wearing a mask (not just to guard against Covid19...the winter flu season is also here). My eldest daughter will drive me in and take me home (parking is ridiculous so I will need her to drop me off and head off somewhere and wait for me to text her to come by and pick me up when I’m finished). I’m definitely staying away from ANY form of public transport. What else???? Ahh hand sanitizer bottles are in my handbag and in the car’s glove box. Once home ... a thorough hot shower and all clothes in the washing machine.

Sometimes I think stress is what’s going to kill me NOT Covid19 😔😩🥺

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 11:31am

Thanks Lisa.

Speaking of masks... I came across the perfect reply for anyone who asks why we're still masking.

Them: "Why are you wearing a mask?".

Me: "I'm participating in a medical study".

Them: "Oh, OK" (or whatever they decide to say).

Me: "So are you but you just don't know it".

I've seen many possible replies to the "why are you wearing a mask" question over the past 12 months or so but that's the best one I've found yet. Can't wait to use it myself.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 8:33am

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Ha! One of my neighbours wears a mask when she’s out and about because she swears it protects her against the bad breath of others. That’s her main reason. Covid19 or the winter flu do not get a mention.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by capitosinora on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:23am

Benito Mussolini, father of Italian fascism:
"Fascism is the union of the state and corporations"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YgJJ0022lc

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

If I went to a Gold coast beach and saw a grown man wearing floaties I would be somewhat bemused
He would probably say he is just keeping himself safe

If I went to a shopping centre and saw a grown man wearing a mask I wiould be somewhat bemused
He would probably say he is just keeping himself safe

Why not learn to swim so you don't need the floaties
Why not develop a strong powerful immune system so you don't need the mask

Questions worth studying

Of course this would require a certain degree of personal responsibility

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

Only 34 Covid deaths reported for Australia this week which is a welcome reduction even though it is 34 deaths too many.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Personally, I am highly sceptical of these numbers, along with Queensland and their dodgy "rolling average" system which they've been using for a month or so we now have Victoria joining them with not giving out Covid information anymore and referring people to "Federal Data".

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1687321515585613824#m

Quote:

It’s now clear that @AlboMP & NC have conspired to prevent Australians from being informed on the hazard from COVID

We no longer have data in 2 States to make any assessment of risk

This is blatant discrimination against vulnerable and elderly Australians

We need to sue

Yes it is. And yes we do. And South Australia's numbers look highly "suss" this week as well.

How on earth are people supposed to use "personal responsibility" (lol) and "assess their own risk" (lol again) when the Covid information needed for them to do so is being slowly taken away and hidden?

Perhaps aquascoot can "shoot off" another quick email to his hero Dr. Gerrard and ask him how is this "following the science"?

Unless it means following "this" science?

https://nitter.net/Rrockstar10/status/1687342530621571072#m

Quote:

But Tim, by taking away all mitigation & PCR testing and then not reporting rats, magically covid disappears and there are no more deaths 🙄. @DanielAndrewsMP certainly conned ppl abt caring for our HCWs and the vulnerable.

Yes. Yes he did. And he wasn't the only one.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2023 at 5:22pm

hi carl

dr gerrard said you should focus on important things like the eagles winning the wooden spoon and leave the science to him

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2023 at 6:03pm

Yes, why?

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1687367366290903040#m

Quote:

Queensland and Victoria are no longer reporting SARS2 deaths

And South Australia will now only report them monthly through Births, Deaths & Marriages

This is a deliberate and orchestrated move by NC to hide the impact of COVID from Australians

We ARE being lied to

Why?

(NC = National Cabinet.)

Hint: The economy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 11^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Just popping in for another weekly update.

In an Australia largely populated by gullible, easily distracted sheep (the best kind of population as far as our governments and big business are concerned) with the current distractions being the AFL, Sam Kerr and the Matildas, the Voice, nuclear submarines, bank CEO's salaries, Barbie and a few more we've had another 75 Covid deaths this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

No deaths are being reported by Queensland as usual (how's that "science" going, aquascoot?) and now South Australia has stopped reporting deaths as well... it won't be long before the other States and Territories follow, I bet.

The number of new cases would also be at least 20 times higher of course. Victoria (and probably SA and WA) are only reporting PCR tests now... which are almost impossible to get... another way to make Covid 'magically' disappear.

Meanwhile, another new Covid "variant of interest" has emerged.

WHO declares ‘Eris’ Covid strain a variant of interest as cases rise globally

Quote:

A new strain of Covid-19 has been designated as a variant of interest by the World Health Organization, although the public health risk has been judged as low.

The variant, known as EG.5 or “Eris”, is related to an Omicron subvariant called XBB.1.9.2, and is growing in prevalence globally, with countries including the UK, China and US among those affected.

However, the WHO suggested the variant does not pose a particular threat. “Based on the available evidence, the public health risk posed by EG.5 is evaluated as low at the global level,” the agency said, adding that the risk appeared to be on a par with other circulating variants of interest.

Low public health risk? Yeah, right. We were told the same thing about the original Omicron when it first appeared nearly 2 years ago.

And stop calling everything Omicron for God's sake.

I'm sure "Eris" has started circulating in Australia and if it isn't already in your area it will be arriving at your nearest airport any day now.

And what will our pathetic governments do about it? Nothing, as usual.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 11^th, 2023 at 6:19pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 4^th, 2023 at 6:03pm:

Yes, why?

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1687367366290903040#m

Quote:

(NC = National Cabinet.)

Hint: The economy.

Without a functional economy there is no functional health system

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 11^th, 2023 at 6:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2023 at 6:19pm:

Without a functional economy there is no functional health system

And without healthy people there is no functional economy.

Your move.

I'm betting it'll only take me one more move (post) to have you checkmated - as usual.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 11^th, 2023 at 6:59pm

Anyway... while I wait for aquascoot's next move.

I've asked this before but does anyone know how a population of mindless sheep such as Australia's are supposed to "assess their own risk" (lol) and "use personal responsibility" (lol x2) regarding Covid when our governments are slowly but surely removing the data we need to be able to do that... assuming the majority of people are capable of doing it (which they're not, of course)?

And at the same time providing "health" advice regarding Covid (and the flu) that consists of washing your hands, coughing and sneezing into your hand or arm (which some won't do), staying home when unwell (which the majority won't do) and staying up to date with vaccinations (which the majority also won't do because they've been led to believe the pandemic is over) - and I've read somewhere just recently that our current Covid vaccines are ineffective against the new variant "Eris" (EG.5) now starting to circulate worldwide.

Not a word about using the one thing that is 'variant proof' for protection against all Covid and flu viruses currently circulating - HIGH QUALITY MASKS.

Anyone?

Bueller?

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 12^th, 2023 at 10:00am

While Covid continues to run rampant with new variants already here and more on the way and people are still dying and being hospitalised (not to mention the millions that will be disabled by Long Covid in the coming years) here is a perfect example of the mindless BS that is being used to keep the population distracted and amused.

From yesterday's The West Australian, front page and page 55.

Gotta hand it to our pollies and big business... they knew exactly what would happen once they started to slowly "spread the word" that the pandemic was over (even though it isn't), remove testing and reporting and that Covid was going to be treated "just like any other respiratory illness" (which it never has been and probably never will be).

And, as I've said a few times in the past 12 months or so - they also knew exactly what would happen as soon as mask mandates were removed... the majority of the population would immediately stop wearing them.

"Masks are sand in the gears of the economy" some fwit pollie or businessman was quoted as saying not long ago. I wonder if that would have been the case if masks had been promoted as protections instead of restrictions? Just like all other Covid containment measures were promoted as restrictions.

The only question now remaining is - how long is it going to take for the population to wake up and realise they've been 'played' and they're now sacrificing their health (and in many cases, lives) for the economy?

Won't be in my lifetime, I'm sure.

"Cheer on the Matildas
Cut out your mask and
get it on ya face!"

Yeah, nah... I don't think so. In fact they can shove it up their @sses for all I care. ;D

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Aug 12^th, 2023 at 10:28am

Thank you Carl for bringing us back down to earth.

How bloody tragic.

We’ve become a population of sheeple.

We have SFA memory and trust too easily.

But the numbers don’t lie. This plandemic/pandemic whatever it is ... remains at large.

Is it denial or misplaced trust?

I can’t stress this enough 👉 Please do whatever you can to stay healthy AND stay out of hospital this Winter. IF due diligence involves working from home (hybrid work arrangements even), wearing a mask when out and about, cooking and eating at home, using private transport rather than public transport ... just do it! Stay safe and don’t take risks with your health.

Cheers

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 12^th, 2023 at 10:47am

Thanks Lisa.

I'm now looking forward to my 93 year old aunt returning home in the next week or two. She had a bad fall at home on June 18th and fractured her left hip and broke her left wrist.

My main concern all of this time has been Covid. Since mask mandates have been removed hardly anyone at Royal Perth Hospital (where she had the operations on June 21st) and Bentley Hospital (where she recovered for the 2nd and 3rd weeks after the operations) bothers to wear masks anymore.

The transition care place in Bentley (which isn't run by the government thank goodness) where she's been for the past 5 weeks is a bit better... masks are required to be worn at all times by staff and visitors (even though most of the staff only wear 'baggy blue' surgicals) and visitors need to show a negative RAT before they can enter the building. Which reminds me - I need to do a RAT before I visit my aunt later today.

But even with all of these Covid protections in place they still had a Covid outbreak there a week ago but fortunately(?) it was on the 2nd floor and my aunt is on the 1st and she seems OK so far. That's why I'm hoping to get her home ASAP.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 12^th, 2023 at 11:54am

Carl D wrote on Aug 12^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

Which reminds me - I need to do a RAT before I visit my aunt later today.

Well, will you look at that.

Negative again.

Must have something to do with me "following the science" of always wearing a high quality mask when I'm out shopping or when I'm anywhere else with lots of people around, eh, aquascoot?

People seem surprised and they sometimes look at me in a strange sort of way when I tell them that (as far as I am aware) I have never had Covid. Some even seem to think that not getting Covid "isn't right" and that it's some sort of "Civic Duty" for everyone to be infected at least once.

As I said a few posts back - mindless sheep.

Never had the flu so far this year as well. Last time I had the flu was in 2019 - twice. Before the Covid border closures, masks, quarantine, testing and other protections stopped the flu and Covid running rampant for 2 years.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 1:12pm

Study: 30% Of People Who Have Been Vaccinated Still Plan To Live The Rest Of Their Lives Hidden In A Basement Just In Case

Perth, WA. - According to a new CDC study, 30% of Australians who have received the vaccine plan to spend the rest of their earthly lives hiding in their basements just in case the vaccine doesn't work.

"The most important thing is for all of us to stay safe," said Carl D., who has received all three versions of the vaccine. "Dr Fauci said there may be a chance the vaccine won't stop all forms of the virus, so I think the best thing I can do is stay here."

Carl told reporters he has resigned himself to hiding in his damp, dark basement with his friend Marley, living off of food orders from UberEats until they die.

"It's a good life, a really good life. This is a good thing," he said. "As long as there's any chance of death by virus still existing in the world, we're staying put!"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 1:40pm

I don't have a basement, damp, dark or otherwise.

I also don't have a friend called Marley.

And I would definitely never order and eat anything from Uber Eats.

Wonder where aquascoot is? Been a bit quiet the last few days... hope he hasn't caught that "mild respiratory virus" which is still doing the rounds (and is about to start another wave with Eris (EG.5) and several other new variants).

I certainly hope his unmasked wife hasn't caught it at work in the hospital and brought it home with her and 'passed it on'. That would be just a little bit sad not to mention slightly amusing.

Meanwhile, from the World "Health" Organization, the clueless wonders who announced that the Covid Global Health Emergency was over 3 months ago (which was immediately pounced on by governments and the media and 'rebranded' as "the pandemic is over") has some more new Covid 'advice'.

WHO issues new standing advice as Covid-19 continues to mutate

Advice which Australia will continue to completely ignore, of course.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 4:54pm

In Australia, 75 people died last week from Covid:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Death toll so far, 22,466.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 5:16pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

she follows the advice of the qualified CHO dr gerrard

if she were to start following the advice of neurotics with extreme anxiety she would be doing a disservice to patient care.

obviously patients need a smiling face.

she would never be so unscientific or downright selfish as to wear a mask and cause suffering to her patients

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 7:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 4:54pm:

In Australia, 75 people died last week from Covid:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Death toll so far, 22,466.

Yes Bobby.

You know that, I know that, anyone who reads this thread knows that and our governments and media also know that.

But Bobby - it's all about "priorities", you see. You know the old saying about how a picture is worth a thousand words? Well, here's a perfect example.

At the Matildas game yesterday.

On the left, of course, is Anthony Albanese (on one of his rare visits to Australia) who's Prime Ministership has overseen 14,000 Covid deaths since the Federal election in May last year, hasn't lifted a finger to prevent any of them and obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

On the right we have Anika Wells who is the Federal Minister for Sport and also Minister for Aged Care (a rather odd combination I have to say).

Her Aged Care department has overseen 1,069 Covid deaths in Aged Care so far this year, she hasn't lifted a finger to prevent any of them and obviously also doesn't give a sh!t.

There have been 5,836 aged care Covid deaths since the beginning of the pandemic (so far) by the way.

686 reported deaths in 2020
226 reported deaths in 2021
3,855 reported deaths in 2022 (ALP/LIB)
1,069 reported deaths in 2023 ALP (so far)

Priorities, Bobby... priorities.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 7:19pm

I know Carl -
but as for the cure?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:59am

This absurd meme originated from a viral social media post:



FALSE: Pfizer vaccine has 1,291 side effects.

Explanation: This is not a list of side effects
caused by Pfizer's mRNA vaccine, but a list
of side effects that Pfizer has focussed on and
sought in the reports that have reached them.

According to the report, no new health risks
from the vaccine were identified, and that
1,291 potential hazards were sought
but NOT found in the reports. Regarding
the stated conclusions, it is known that no
new risks or worrying information about side
effects were discovered.

These sorts of nonsensical, unevidenced and
misrepresentative memes are all too typical of
the sorts of bullshit that people like Frank, Bobby,
Sir Lastmail, Aquascoot, Wombat Woody,
Captain Caveman, et al believe without question.

   Sad really that in an allegedly
   scientifically-enlightened 21st
   century we seem to have so
   many education-resistant people
   —even those presented with
   sound, empirical evidence who
   still blindly soak up COVID
   denialism like a sponge.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:24am

Carl D wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 7:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 4:54pm:

In Australia, 75 people died last week from Covid:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Death toll so far, 22,466.

priorities indeed carl.

most humans value human "thriving"
not just human "surviving"

its why we like to explore,give birth to babies swim in the ocean, climb mountains, fly, get into relationships,go for a night out, go to the moon, test our limits, be all that we can be.

the "timid" approach yo life may get you an extra year or two but it is not the priority for most humans

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:29am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:59am:

cognitive dissonance geoff.
most medications have side effects,
and there is more under reporting then over reporting of these side effects.

busy doctors proably arent going to do a lot of unpaid cumbersome paperwork every time someone gets muscle aches or a migraine or vomiting or a rash after taking something.
how would you know anyway unless you "look"

and where is the incentive for doctors and governents and drug companies to "look"

there isnt one

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 8:44am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:24am:

its why we like to explore,give birth to babies swim in the ocean, climb mountains, fly, get into relationships,go for a night out, go to the moon, test our limits, be all that we can be.

Go to the Moon.

You know what? I was just thinking about that last night.

But what I was thinking was - with the human race's collective level of intelligence apparently declining at an alarming rate with a corresponding increase in the level of stupidity (which has been made blindingly obvious by the way the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has been/is being handled) then the Moon landings may turn out to be mankind's greatest ever achievement and they will never be 'beaten' even if mankind survives for another 1,000 years.

And I'm pretty sure we won't last that long with the way things are going (not just with present and future pandemics but also with things like the environment). We'll be lucky to survive for the next 100 years in my opinion.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 9:10am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:24am:

most humans value human "thriving"
not just human "surviving"

Can't see too much "thriving" and "surviving" happening in a world overrun by pollution and viruses, can you?

We had our chance - for nearly 2 years starting in early 2020 the planet was able to 'take a breather' due to the huge reduction in pollution with large numbers of planes grounded worldwide, cars off the roads, etc. etc. but we didn't learn anything from that of course.

Money and greed has ensured that everything has gone back to "normal" even though SARS-CoV-2 hasn't gone anywhere and is still killing and disabling people (long Covid) everywhere and pollution and destruction of the environment is once again on the increase.

100 years (tops) is what I give the human race's chances of survival if things keep going the way they are.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 9:36am

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:24am:

its why we like to explore,give birth to babies swim in the ocean, climb mountains, fly, get into relationships,go for a night out, go to the moon, test our limits, be all that we can be.

Carl you are making my case for me

Going to the moon was the Pinnacle of the spirit of adventure

And now we have the century of safety

We are indeed going backwards as we adopt the timid approach to life

Can you not see the ridiculousness in your arguement

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am

Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X.

Sums it all up perfectly.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 11:13am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:29am:

...
cognitive dissonance Geoff.
most medications have side effects,
and there is more under reporting then over reporting of these side effects.

busy doctors probably aren't going to do a lot of unpaid cumbersome paperwork every time someone gets muscle aches or a migraine or vomiting or a rash after taking something.
how would you know anyway unless you "look"

and where is the incentive for doctors and governments and drug companies to "look"

there isn't one

I was primarily pointing out the bullshit that
was Bobby's meme, rather than talking about
medications and/or their potential side effects.
He posted a claim that said there were 1,291
"side effects" from COVID vaccines.

And I agree; of course there are side effects
from many prescription drugs, but they all vary
in type, degree, and the person taking them.
And all CMI's clearly list them, so it's not as
though the doctors and/or the pharmaceutical
industry are trying to hide anything.

You also say that "there is more under reporting
than over reporting of these side effects". I've not
seen any evidence supporting this; it needs a citation.

The classic, current example is COVID vaccination:
Some people have no side effects. Many people
have reported side effects—such as headache,
fatigue, and soreness at the injection site—that
are generally mild to moderate and go away within
a few days.

Anaphylaxis after COVID vaccination is rare.
It has occurred at a rate of approximately 5 cases
per one million vaccine doses administered.
Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis
after a COVID vaccination responded well to
medicine and rest and felt better quickly.
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome
syndrome (TTS) has been rarely observed
after J&J/Janssen COVID vaccination and has
occurred in approximately 4 cases per one million
doses administered.

—https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws: Disease expert who led Australia through the Covid pandemic dies after battle with illness

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.

Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

Ms McLaws was a respected professor of epidemiologist, having worked for the World Health Organisation (WHO) as an advisor to China and aiding in disease control in 10 countries outside of Australia including Bangladesh, Cambodia and China.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12402167/Mary-Louise-McLaws-Disease-expert-led-Australia-Covid-pandemic-dies-battle-illness.html?ito=push-notification&ci=XlXE2KU_GX&cri=WVPoFHJnr0&si=g-vVEzVTCPCo&xi=5fda9a59-ef63-449e-8b40-070fa80514d7&ai=12402167

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:59am:

This absurd meme originated from a viral social media post:



FALSE: Pfizer vaccine has 1,291 side effects.

Explanation: This is not a list of side effects
caused by Pfizer's mRNA vaccine, but a list
of side effects that Pfizer has focused on and
sought in the reports that have reached them.

According to the report, no new health risks
from the vaccine were identified, and that
1,291 potential hazards were sought
but NOT found in the reports. Regarding
the stated conclusions, it is known that no
new risks or worrying information about side
effects were discovered.

These sorts of nonsensical, unevidenced and
misrepresentative memes are all too typical of
the sorts of bullshit that people like Frank, Bobby,
Sir Lastmail, Aquascoot, Wombat Woody,
Captain Caveman, et al believe without question.

   Sad really that in an allegedly
   scientifically-enlightened 21st
   century we seem to have so
   many education-resistant people
   —even those presented with
   sound, empirical evidence who
   still blindly soak up COVID
   denialism like a sponge.

The meme stands as correct:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:40pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X.

Sums it all up perfectly.

celebrating aussie sport
ie celebrating human flourishing.

aussies are great at a few things which we should be proud of

sport
mining
farming

well done albo
congratulate our heroes and ignore those who do nothing, risk nothing and produce nothing

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.

Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:34pm

Ah, the good old days.

The front page of The West Australian on Tuesday June 29th 2021.

With another 16 pages of virus coverage inside.

At that stage we only had 9 Covid deaths in WA (might not have even been 9, I haven't checked. It was 9 when Mark McGowan finally caved in to big business and opened WA's border in March last year) and 3 Covid cases gets that sort of news coverage.

Just over 2 years later and we have this sh!tfest:

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-summary/wa

Now there's not a word about it in the papers or on the TV news anymore except to occasionally say dumb things like "post Covid", "post pandemic", "after the pandemic" and "the pandemic is over".

And not a word about it from the pollies, of course.

What happened?

(No need for an answer - I already know it).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X.

Sums it all up perfectly.

Yes, well done albo. ::)

I can just picture him right now getting measured up for one of these.

And working on his Bob Hawke accent so he can say (if the Matildas win the World Cup)...

"Any boss who sacks anyone for not turning up today is a bum"

Truly cringeworthy stuff.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:17pm

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:24pm

"AFRAID TO BREATH AIR"

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

I fixed that stupid meme for you and Sir Nail months ago and I was under the impression one or both of you had 'snagged' it for future use.

I haven't kept the corrected version because, quite frankly, I was hoping to never see it posted again. Silly me. :-[

And I really don't have the time or the inclination to fix it again at the moment even though it would only take me a few minutes to do it.

Very disappointed I am. :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:30pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

Breathe not breath - OK OK.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by The Grappler on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 5:11am

Mushroom Roulette again?

My cardio is looking into why I had sudden heart failure.... heart arteries more or less collapsed ... not long after the 4th shot.

Sh-sh-she turned m-m-m-me into a n-n-n-n-n-newt! ................................... It got better!!

Anyone else sick of people being made heroes when they were blundering in the dark? They gave the Lady Of The Corona Princess - NSW 'chief health officer' who stuffed it - a medal, along with the dork 'health minister'!!

Arse covering of the finest vintage....

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 6:12am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.
Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

This is a truly disrespectful and offensive
comment for anybody to have made.

McLaws had absolutely nothing to do with
whether or not people chose to be vaccinated,
and in actuality was a voice of medical logic
and reassuring calmness in the quagmire of
clamorous media reporting and anti- vaccination
bullshit—like all the ignorant crap you've
posted here over the months.

You've really exposed yourself as the hateful,
shallow-minded, loathsome little man you are.

In fact—ironically—if you'd taken her advice
in the early days of the pandemic, instead of
stubbornly refusing the vaccine, you would've
in all likelihood avoided being infected with COVID.
Unlike those of us who wisely chose to be vaccinated,
and avoided any potentially serious illnesses
or even death.

In short you're a dickhead mate. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 6:35am

Amen!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 7:04am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 6:12am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.
Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

That's not actually true Jeffrey
If nail had taken the vaccine he would still likely have contracted kovid

My suspicion is that is why politicians have gone radio silent on the whole issue

They ran the narrative of this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms
And then guess what
It didn't end and it hasn't ended and they have nothing more to offer

So let's just get on with celebrating the Matildas and ignore a problem about which we can do virtually nothing

Except to take some personal responsibility for our own health lose weight and hit the gym
Something about Karl fines a toxic idea ::) :P :P

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 16^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15^th, 2023 at 6:12am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine ;)

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.
Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

don't worry they all profited out of it just like oncologists do when they poison people with their magic potions and then tick them off as "died from cancer" :(

As for being infected you sure as hell sound like you live in a plastic bubble terrified of being bitten by a mosquito. :D LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 7:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2023 at 4:54pm:

In Australia, 75 people died last week from Covid:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Death toll so far, 22,466.

I'm guessing there won't be any Albo/Anika pictures posted anywhere tonight. In fact, I reckon we'd have a hard job even finding them right now (I assume they were both at the game waiting for another photo op if the Matildas won).

How sad.

Might be time now for Albo to turn his attention (before he jets off overseas again) to doing something about all of the issues confronting Australians right now (including Covid) and for Anika to start turning her attention to doing something about all of the Covid deaths in Aged Care.

Like any of that is ever going to happen.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:21am

hi carl

most australians are trying to flourish and live joyfully.

you should join in

let your hair down

death is coming for us all and is unavoidable

live life now whilst you have the chance

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 7:37am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:21am:

hi carl

most Australians are trying to flourish and live joyfully.

you should join in

let your hair down

death is coming for us all and is unavoidable

live life now whilst you have the chance

Well yes... I agree that we should all be living
as hopefully and as positively as we can. We
need to ensure that all the current doom and
gloom doesn't overtake us to the point of
living in a constant state of fear and despondency.

But, at the same time we need to be realists,
and acknowledge that the SARS-CoV-2 virus
has decimated major portions of the global
population—to the tune of 6,954,340 deaths.

And we need to remember that the only 'good'
news for our media is 'bad' news.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by The Grappler on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:11am

The consensus around my sudden heart failure episode is pointing more and more at the various multiple vaccinations they insisted people my age needed. The arteries basically collapsed and near killed me. 31% heart function - no wonder I felt sick as a dog.

My cardiologist was shocked - amazed at the sudden collapse when I was in fine running order. He's keeping a close eye on this.

Back to bed now - still recovering from mega surgery.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:43am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:11am:

Who knows grappler and that is the point
No one is going to point the finger at the vaccine for the current increase in cardiovascular death
Not when both the government and the medical profession advised it

Never ask a question you don't want the answer to

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:46am

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:21am:

hi carl

most Australians are trying to flourish and live joyfully.

you should join in

let your hair down

death is coming for us all and is unavoidable

live life now whilst you have the chance

Decimated is too strong a language Jeffrey

When the conquistadors introduced smallpox to South America it is estimated that up to 90% of the Aztecs perished within the first decade
That's decimation

With kovid
If you were a healthy individual under 65
And that would certainly have been the case for the Aztecs
The death rate was less than 1 in 2000
Try and compare 1800 deaths out of 2000 to 1 death in 2000
Then you will realise you need to tone down the language and the catastrophization

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 10:18am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:46am:

...When the conquistadors introduced smallpox to South America it is estimated that up to 90% of the Aztecs perished within the first decade
That's decimation

With Covid
If you were a healthy individual under 65
And that would certainly have been the case for the Aztecs
The death rate was less than 1 in 2000
Try and compare 1800 deaths out of 2000 to 1 death in 2000
Then you will realise you need to tone down the language and the catastrophization

I have no idea why you've bought up the
topic of the Aztecs dying from smallpox 500
years ago? Do think there's some sort of
equivalence with today's Covid epidemic?

Seriously? LOL.

BTW, linguistically, "decimated" no longer
necessarily means 10% —as it was used
historically 400 years ago.

decimate [noun] —kill, destroy, or remove a
large proportion of, destroy or significantly harm,
drastically reduce especially in number.

Just as Covid has.

I invariably find it amusing that people fall
back on games of semantics when they're
so desperate to prove a point.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 10:24am

So, "The Gospel According To Aquascoot" ::) states that it is perfectly fine to allow a virus that is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard to run rampant through the Australian population causing sickness, death (at a death rate of over 50 times more than the flu) and potentially disabling millions with long Covid in the coming years.

OK then.

Oh, while I'm here... speaking of photo ops earlier on... since Albo (and Anika) obviously couldn't get out of Stadium Australia fast enough after the Matildas lost last night (I wouldn't be surprised if they left before the game finished) here's one just for Albo:

(I didn't caption it, by the way)

"wear a mask and eat a Tic-tac!" ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 11:29am

I suppose things could be worse.

British Columbia are now doing their own version of that famous 1984 film.

"Who Ya Gonna Call?

'It’s lunacy': B.C. nurses told to call 911 when no ER doctors on shift

Quote:

One of B.C.’s health authorities had a plan to keep a hospital emergency room open despite having no physicians to cover the department by demanding family doctors attend to any of their patients and ordering unsupervised nurses to call 911 for those in medical distress.

CTV News has obtained a memo sent to doctors and administrators at the Bulkley Valley District Hospital in Smithers on Friday titled “No physician BVDH ER Coverage Mitigation Plan.” It includes instruction to call “the responsible family physician of all attached patients that present” to attend them in the hospital when there would be no doctors on shift.

Nurses alone in the emergency department “will be able to provide comfort measures and some first aid…or phone 911 if the person presenting is in immediate medical distress.”

Not one word about what's probably causing all the staff shortages, of course.

Spoiler alert: Here's a clue.

Won't be long before this happens here in Australia (assuming it isn't already).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 12:19pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 10:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:46am:

hi jeff

please explain how covid has killed a large proportion of the population

smallpox did

covid also did according to you?

incorrect

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 12:20pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 10:24am:

death rate 50 x the flu :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

death rate 50 x the flu :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

We've been through this before. Several times.

I'm not going through it all again.

It's actually between 52 and 53 times more deadly than the flu.

Greg did the math and posted the exact percentage earlier this year (it was something like 52.5 times more) but I'm not looking for the post and I'm also not looking for the numbers to do the math for you again.

When was the last time the flu killed 14,000 Australians between May 2022 and today and 22,466 Australians since the start of the pandemic (and most of those deaths were in the last 2 years)?

How many times do I (and others) have to try and explain this?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 1:28pm

COVID-19: Current COVID-19 deaths*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

The COVID-19 situation continues to change, sometimes rapidly. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19. At present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu.

*This information comes from the Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases map developed by the Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering.

and the flu kills young children (OUR MOST VALUABLE ASSET)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 4:03pm

In the first 2 years of this over-hyped, manufactured flu epidemic/pandemic, most people have now seen what happens when Capitalists become the puppeteers, and the masses become their puppets.

Clearly, most people really WANT to believe that whatever the media and their government is telling them is the complete truth. Even though this truth is steeped in half-truths, lies, disinformation, omissions, and just a little duress/coercion thrown in for added dupability.

This was just another page out of Paul J. Goebbels's propaganda playbook. If you want to efficiently control how the masses think, just manufacture a crisis/confusion, keep your messages/slogans short and simple, and keep repeating them Ad infinitum(illusory truth effect).

Here's even more emerging truth about the ugly side of capitalism. For the non-critical thinkers among us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aw5BKpKKNs

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

Went to my local TerryWhite Chemmart this morning to ask about a 6th Covid vaccination which I was under the impression I was eligible for next Monday the 21st (after asking around at several other places over the past few weeks and getting vague answers).

Apparently the only people eligible for a 6th vaccination at the moment are people with medical issues and they need proof from their GP.

The rest of us have to rely on being (re)infected with a constantly mutating Level 3 Biohazard, heart, brain and multiple organ damaging bat virus for our "vaccinations".

Which obviously suits the government fine as they're saving even more money on top of the millions they're already saving on pensions and healthcare by having Covid kill off the elderly and medically vulnerable.

And with the majority of the population blissfully unaware of all this the government doesn't need to do anything except play dumb (which comes natural to them) and keep pretending that the pandemic is over and Covid is "just another respiratory illness".

But, watch out for those new variants like Eris (EG.5) and several others starting to do the rounds... despite media "reassurances" about them being "mild" (where have we heard that before?) there's no proof yet as to whether they're the same or possibly worse than current variants.

And I've also read somewhere that the vaccines available at the moment are not particularly effective against these newer variants.

We are SOOOOOO screwed...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:06pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

carl

take a breath buddy

its really not that bad :-* :-*

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:06pm

Not a bat virus, apparently a coondog virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:06pm:

carl

take a breath buddy

its really not that bad :-* :-*

No, of course it isn't.

Try telling that to the families of the 22,466 people what have died so far.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/deaths

And there will no doubt be more deaths added tomorrow.

I wonder which State or Territory will be next to stop reporting Covid deaths so they can also say "look... no more Covid deaths" (even though they're still happening).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 8:31pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Again, this is more disinformation. Every new variant/mutation of the SARS Covid virus has been either less virulent(harmful, lethal), or less contagious(infectious), THAN ITS ORIGINAL! This is just how nature works. Why you are choosing to assume that there is a more virulent and contagious variant(of the original) just around the corner, is definitely NOT supported by science or anything that we have observed. But your cognitive bias does support your belief. AS A COPING MECHANISM!

Carl D wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 17^th, 2023 at 5:06pm:

carl

take a breath buddy

its really not that bad :-* :-*

More disinformation to appeal to pathos. Let's include some context to these 22,466 Covid-19 deaths. Simply stating the total deaths, gives the impression that all these deaths have occurred today. Instead of occurring over 1,300 days(17/26M Australian/day). It also ignores all other factors relating to these TOTAL deaths(comorbidities, immunocompromised, chronic illnesses, etc.). I certainly agree that you should avoid this subject altogether :).

Finally, if we consider that over 171,000 Australians die each year(468 Australians/day), I'd say that it IS a certainty that more deaths will be added tomorrow. And, yes a few might even be Covid-19 related.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 8:38pm

Just a quick post for anyone who still cares besides me.

46 Covid deaths reported this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

With Queensland and South Australia no longer reporting weekly deaths (soon to be followed by the other States and Territories no doubt) the death number is likely to be higher.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 8:00pm

I forgot, I was supposed to get my third vaccine, soon.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 7:40am

Another quick post to remind anyone who's still interested that SARS-CoV-2 is still killing Australians with no end in sight.

69 deaths reported last week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

And that's with Queensland, South Australia and now apparently the NT not reporting weekly deaths anymore.

And I've heard a rumour that South Australia is "quietly" changing their Health Act to ensure that things like Covid mask mandates, lockdowns and other pandemic protections can never happen again (so the economy is no longer affected by the current and future pandemics, of course).

And NSW is about to drop mask mandates and other Covid/flu protections on cruise ships just as another new wave with several new variants is about to start.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw-scrap-arcane-cruise-vaccine-010739499.html

Quote:

Mr Minns said the state needed to signal to international visitors, in particular, that life was back to normal in NSW.

"Normal" except for the fact that dozens of people in NSW are still dying from Covid every week.

Sounds like the cruise industry must have "splashed some cash".

Despicable stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 9:03am

Reckon you would like to Mod this board, Carl? Get some sense in the discussion?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 10:43am

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

Reckon you would like to Mod this board, Carl? Get some sense in the discussion?

Nah, not a chance. Even if Mods were paid there isn't enough money in the country to entice me to be a Mod in this place.

And I'm too busy now looking after my elderly aunt who I brought home on Thursday afternoon after her fall 10 weeks ago. I have to take her back to the transition care place in Bentley shortly, it was just a 2 day "trial" to see how she manages at home (that's why I haven't been on here the last few days).

She's doing OK using her stroller and stick so hopefully she will be home permanently by this time next week.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 11:49am

Carl D wrote on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 7:40am:

Another quick post to remind anyone who's still interested that SARS-CoV-2 is still killing Australians with no end in sight...

Plus 640 new cases notified yesterday.

As of 22 August, the average daily incidence
of COVID infections was 763, an increase
of 3.8%, and with NSW accounting for nearly
half that number.

—Department of Health and Aged Care,
Jurisdictional reporting as at 23 Aug 2023.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 1^st, 2023 at 4:42pm

Yes, it's Friday again.

And yes - people are still dying from Covid all around Australia.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Another 65 (reported) deaths this week, would probably be higher if Queensland hadn't stopped reporting deaths a few months back.

Cases are unbelievably low as usual - because most people don't bother to test and report their positive tests anymore and Victoria (and maybe one or two other States) only record PCR tests now (which are almost impossible to get these days and if you can get one it costs $$$$$$).

Edit: According to this it's 74 deaths.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1697458784204153324#m

🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 1 September 2023

🔸Deaths: 74 (-2)
🔸Cases: 5,789 (+442)

🔹NSW: 1,917 / 15
🔹QLD: 1,043 / 7
🔹VIC: 967 / 20
🔹WA: 694 / 3
🔹SA: 546 / 25
🔹TAS: 338 / 0
🔹ACT: 175 / 3
🔹NT: 109 / 1

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am

So do I, Dr. Berger.

So do I.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1700680180606652479#m

Quote:

"Yo-yo flu"
"Spicy cough"
"The 'rona"

I find these clumsy attempts to normalise infection with a deadly pathogen, and somehow render it 'friendly', even to make it an object of affection, to be at once excruciating, pathetic and sinister.

‘We’ve been constantly sick’: Why we can’t kick the ‘yo-yo flu’

Quote:

Australia is grappling with the “yo-yo flu”, where cold symptoms continually return, as a sharp rise in respiratory infections has been driven by an early flu season, continuing cases of COVID-19 and the circulation of nasty viruses.

I haven't had the flu for 4 years now.

And, as far as I know I've never had SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

I wonder why (apart from the Covid border closures, testing, quarantine, masks and other protections)?

Hint: the answer starts with the letter M.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 27^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

Spoiler alert: Tim really isn't surprised, I'm sure.

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1706993108381233559#m

Quote:

You might have thought this significant media release from @ABSStats would make tonight’s @abcnews bulletin

Not.A.Sausage.

You’re nothing if not consistent @ABCaustralia

And a MAJOR root causes behind these deaths

And tnis is aquascoot's "mild respiratory virus".

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 27^th, 2023 at 11:15pm

Any other predictions, Nostradamus?

I'm surprised this d*ckhead wasn't appointed to head Albanese's upcoming sham of a Covid inquiry.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 6:19am

Hi there Carl

You are an isolated ignorance old pensioner

Dr cosworth is a PhD respiratory physician who has climbed to be in the esteemed position of chief health officer

When you lefty's scream believe the science

Which out of the two of you should we consider more scientifically qualified

All you are qualified to do is place a white flag in an envelope put on your mask take it to your local post office and mail it off to myself

I'll be glad to send it on to this heroic scientist and truth speaker

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 9:44am

"Dr." Nick (Covid isn't airborne) Coatsworth.

Another one who's been consistently wrong about everything they've said about Covid since the start of the pandemic, along with the likes of Collignon, Bennett, aquascoot's hero Dr. "why do I always look constipated?" Gerrard in Queensland and many more.

Here's another one of "Dr." Nick's Greatest Hits:

It’s time to remove all mask mandates for aged care workers

Feb 27, 2023

Quote:

In an interview with HelloCare, infectious disease expert and common-sense COVID-19 communicator, Dr Nick Coatsworth shared his thoughts on the prospect of removing the masks from aged care staff and letting everyone – both literally and figuratively – breathe a little easier.

“I think they should come off,” said Dr Coatsworth.

“I think they should only be used when you’re caring for a confirmed positive [case] or in a situation where your nursing home has got a significant outbreak.”

With current variants of COVID-19 now “intrinsically more mild” than earlier variants according to Dr Coatsworth, the negative impact on residents’ mental health brought about by mask-wearing should be weighted heavier than the physical ramifications of COVID-19.

"common-sense COVID-19 communicator, Dr Nick Coatsworth" ;D ;D ;D

And then...

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1706134617429070110#m

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 21 September 2023

🔹Active cases: 883 (+316)
🔹Active outbreaks: 123 (+20)
🔹Residents: 645 (+205)
🔹Staff: 238 (+111)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,104 (+7)

Oh, and... how's that shot at a political career going, "Dr." Nick?

(This might also explain his "Covid isn't anything to worry about" stance on the pandemic, wouldn't surprise me one bit).

But... just keep thinking about all of the money the government is saving on pensions and healthcare costs, eh?

Disgraceful stuff.

Before this Covid pandemic I (naively) never thought that a country like Australia could be run by such evil individuals like the ones we currently have running our governments and big business.

But, as I've said once or twice before - accountability is coming for them even though it may take a while.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am

They are accountable to

The young people of Australia who need to go to school
Young families who need to start small businesses
People who need to remain physically fit and attend gyms
Go to the beach unharrassed
People who need to travel to see loved ones
Our admirable sporting teams who need our support

Not everyone is a hypochondriac
And it would be a truly evil government that pandered to hypochondria

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

These 'groups' are also being affected by Covid infections (especially repeated infections) even though most of them don't know it yet.

Not just the "oldies" and other vulnerable people.

And surely I don't need to say it again - politicians and big business CEO's are only accountable to themselves and the almighty dollar.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:27am

Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor) hits the nail on the head, as always.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1707156228877463929#m

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-27/abs-deaths-in-graphs-covid-heart-disease-suicide/102907992

Quote:

We've known this for well over a year, thanks to the work of @karencutter4 and colleagues. Why is it still being ignored? Why is this OK? Why are we still bothering to spend billions on road safety if it kills only a fraction of those who die from COVID?

Quote:

2/ The only way to understand this disconnect is to accept that the rules which ACTUALLY govern society are diametrically opposed to those we are TOLD govern society.

The reality: individual lives and well being do not matter to either side of politics.

Quote:

3/ The only thing that matters is that the overall health of the herd is sufficient for it to be satisfactorily farmed for short term profit.

And the shame of the present situation, the deathly shame, is that Public Health has allowed itself to be co-opted to this end

Bullseye!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

These 'groups' also being affected by Covid infections (especially repeated infections) even though most of them don't know it yet.

Not just the "oldies" and other vulnerable people.

And surely I don't need to say it again - politicians and big business CEO's are only accountable to themselves and the almighty dollar.

Look what I've just found.

Covid may have permanently damaged people's immunity

Quote:

Covid infections are putting people at higher risk of diabetes, strokes, heart disease and other long-term illnesses - but experts warn it may be decades before the full impact is known.

Meanwhile, could Covid-19 also be blamed for the increased frequency and severity of colds and flu? Has it damaged our ability to fight off infections?

Northland emergency doctor Gary Payinda said some viruses, which used to cause barely a sniffle in healthy adults, were now putting people in hospital.

"We're now seeing your typical regular healthy middle-aged person presenting to ED with bad cases of RSV. And that's pretty novel for us," Payinda said.

He suspected Covid may have damaged people's immunity in subtle ways that fell below the threshold to qualify as long Covid.

I expect aqua (and our pollies, of course) to completely ignore this.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:27am:

[quote]2/ The only way to understand this disconnect is to accept that the rules which ACTUALLY govern society are diametrically opposed to those we are TOLD govern society.

The reality: individual lives and well being do not matter to either side of politics.

Quote:

Bullseye![/quote]

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:21am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

How's this for some perspective?

If this is our "future" (and I strongly suspect it is, and not just in Alice Springs, Tennant Creek and other outback towns) then I'd glady take the past if I could.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:21am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

kids in alice springs running amok?
thats rather racist of you carl.
brian will not be pleased

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:15pm:

kids in alice springs running amok?
thats rather racist of you carl.
brian will not be pleased

Really?

I didn't write the story or take the pictures. I was using it to make a point (a point that you obviously missed, as usual).

Anyway... moving right along and back to here again...

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1707156228877463929#m

Quote:

Yes, a perfect example is the front page of today's The West Australian.

While this is indeed a tragedy and my condolences to the familes of those who died I still haven't seen a front page story (or any mention in the paper at all) this week about the SEVEN West Australians who were reported (by the Department of "Health") to have died from Covid last week.

Why not? Especially seeing as it was just over 2 years ago when this same worthless rag had a huge front page story (and an extra 16 pages of "virus coverage" inside) about 3 COVID CASES in Perth (caused by one of many hotel quarantine breaches around Australia at the time) which resulted in a 4 day lockdown here.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 9:49am

Yes, Covid still hasn't gone away and Australians are still dying every week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

44 deaths reported again last week... and that's without death numbers from several States.

Cases and hospitalisations are on the way up again even if deaths are gradually being "hidden".

Expect case numbers to take a dramatic drop next week after NSW and WA close their RAT portals on Monday so positive RATs can no longer be reported and recorded.

As Covid Live is starting to become a little unreliable these days here's the "real" numbers as far as can be ascertained:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1707676061352481187#m

50 deaths not 44 as reported by Covid Live.

And, if this isn't enough to wake people up (it won't, of course) then I don't know what will.

https://nitter.net/DrMLivingston/status/1707771402898780352#m

Michael is in WA so I'm sure BA.2.86 (Pirola) has already spread to the rest of Australia by now.

Quote:

Well that rounds out another exciting week of 🦠 dodging.

Where are we up to now? RSV, HPIV-3, hMPV and what else to knock them out the park?

COVID is back.

Of course it is.

I know for runs and giggles it has to be BA.2.86 (Pirola) due to the way the patient contracted the virus.

Masks? Of course not.
Vaccinated? Of course not.

Needing my help, as shock horror, natural immunity isn’t doing a single thing to help them.

So eye protection, mask, HEPA, VirX/Envoid, Glen20, Surface Wipes, Ventilation and now the dreaded wait begins…like the times before, again and again and again for the eventual positive RATs and community spread, if, indeed people even bother testing anymore?

No, of course they don't bother testing because they believe that all they have is a "cold" (or hay fever).

In addition, the national disgrace that is Covid aged care deaths continues unabated:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1707658700654350828#m

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 28 September 2023

🔹Active cases: 927 (+101)
🔹Active outbreaks: 142 (+29)
🔹Residents: 695 (+89)
🔹Staff: 232 (+12)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,113 (+9)

Quote:

🔸5,880 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,113 reported deaths in 2023

And this will no doubt continue while we have a Federal Aged Care Minister (Anika Wells) who spends more time promoting sport (her other portfolio) than she does dealing with Aged Care and doing something about the Covid deaths.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:37am

hi ya carl

millions of australians will watch the footy finals this weekend

a handful of cult members will watch twitter commentary on masks

its time to let it go and rejoin your society

no man is an island

isolation will not keep you safe, isolation is seen by the geneva convention as a cruel and unusual punishment , stop being addicted to illness (also known as low vibration energy)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:48am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:37am:

stop being addicted to illness

You mean like being "addicted" to being infected and reinfected with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) which is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard just like what's happening with the majority of the population right now while they mistakenly believe that all they have is a "cold"?

Except that (unknown to them at the moment) their immune systems are gradually being trashed with every Covid infection leaving them susceptible to a large number of other diseases and illnesses, plus possible heart, lung and brain issues, etc.

OK... got it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 11:46am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

...Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

What an ill-informed, absurd comment!

SARS-CoV-2 is in no way a "mild" respiratory virus.
This is the sort of bullshit claim that the anti-vaxxers
made, supported by the idiocy of the conspiracy theorists.

And it's not "our young people" who're the major victims:
The Victorian Road toll shows that the 40-64 age cohort
holds the highest proportion of road fatalities with 74
recorded for 2023. This was followed by 26-39 at 64,
and 17-25 at 46.

At any rate, no "mild" respiratory virus would've killed
22,798 Australians, to date. You've been sucking up
far too many bogus claims from the conspiracists such
as Joseph Mercola, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Sherri Tenpenny,
Robert Malone, Rashid Buttar, and Meryl Dory.

Over 760 million cases and 6.9 million deaths have been
recorded worldwide since December 2019, but the actual
number is thought to be higher.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

Speaking of ill-informed, absurd comments I wonder where Sir Nail is?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=thelastnail

He hasn't been online here for a week and hasn't posted for two weeks.

Sure hope he's OK.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:42pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:32pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

70 pages of evidence to change your mind:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/1039#1039

Apart from the scientific papers I quoted there is not a shred of evidence in the 70 pages of (99% dross!)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:44pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 26^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

Reckon you would like to Mod this board, Carl? Get some sense in the discussion?

OK, missed this. Your aunt OK now Carl?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:52pm

Hi, JM.

Thanks, yep, my aunt is fine now after she came home 3 weeks ago. In fact, she seems to be walking as well as she was before her fall on June 18th but I have to keep reminding her not to get complacent and make sure she uses her walker, especially if she's been sat or laid down for some time.

We've also both just gotten over Covid which wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting it to be, especially for my aunt. But, she was on antivirals for 5 days which I'm sure helped as well.

I still won't change my mind about how serious Covid is for many people though... next time (and I intend to do my best to make sure there isn't a next time) we might not be so lucky.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:00pm

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 11:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

...Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

aquascoot also needs to be reminded that road trauma isn't contagious.

Anyway, regarding RFK Jr: it's sad to see his steady decline.

I've seen lots of his close friends and associates come out now saying they just don't know what's wrong with him.

Even his wife - the delightful Cheryl Hines - is worried about him now.

The way these cults brainwash their followers is really quite alarming.

Robert was once a very smart man, but now he's just lost the plot.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:24pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:52pm:

Yeah, most of us here are in the danger demographic.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:38pm

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1683678712/9#9 date=1683706730]The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

And superman can fly down at any time and save the world.

You sir, are a dead set moron. :-?

Monk is not playing with the full deck. :-[/quote]

Listen to the whining queen.

NO idea at ALL of what constitutes evidence, no idea of science, logic etc.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:42pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 1:52pm:

Most of us here are in the danger demographic for covid. I know I am—mid 70s not as good re covid (AND SO MUCH ELSE LOL!) mis 20s1

Covid wasn’t the motivation for moving to Tassie but it having the lowest rates of covid and now living in a small rural village REALLY doesn’t hurt.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:54pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

Quote:

🔸5,880 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,113 reported deaths in 2023

About time Albo and Anika posed for a few pictures inside one of the many aged care homes around Australia riddled with Covid , isn't it?

https://nitter.net/AlboMP/status/1707894774823518486#m

Quote:

No better way to kick off Grand Final day than the traditional North Melbourne breakfast with Sports Minister @AnikaWells.

And...

https://nitter.net/motrsprtfann/status/1707895696022802611#m

Quote:

Not one to miss an opportunity are you, definitely milking the 1 term for all its worth

Absolutely no doubt about that.

Roll on Federal election day... time to take out the trash. Once again.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

...Anyway, regarding RFK Jr: it's sad to see his steady decline.

It could be that at age 69 years—like Trump obviously
is—he's suffering from early onset dementia, or some
other form of cognitive impairment. It's ludicrous for
him to even be thinking of running for POTUS next year.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr has floated a conspiracy theory that
COVID “ethnically targeted” white and Black people
and spared Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese people. He
dished out this wild COVID conspiracy theory this
week [15/7/23] during a press event at an Upper East
Side restaurant.

In between bites of linguini and clam sauce, Kennedy,
69, warned of more dire biological weapons in the
pipeline with a “50% infection fatality rate” that
would make COVID “look like a walk in the park.”

“We do know that the Chinese are spending hundreds
of millions of dollars developing ethnic bioweapons
and we are developing ethnic bioweapons,” he
claimed. “They’re collecting Russian DNA. They’re
collecting Chinese DNA so we can target people by race.”

Bobby—not "our" Bobby—is totally nutso! :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 3:33pm

Wonder what happened here?

https://nitter.net/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1709334665566339373#m

Quote:

Australia: After weeks of posting numbers of Covid deaths at 30-50 a week, 685 deaths are suddenly added on the 10th September 2023.

Anyone?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 4:48pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 3:33pm:

Wonder what happened here?

https://nitter.net/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1709334665566339373#m

Quote:

Australia: After weeks of posting numbers of Covid deaths at 30-50 a week, 685 deaths are suddenly added on the 10th September 2023.

Anyone?

yeah carl

that shows what utter garbage your vaccines were.

jenners small pox vax was way more effective then these mrna vaccines

what a flop

no wonder the majority of sensible australians arent getting anymore of them and the government isnt pushing them at all.

embarrassment all round except for people like aquascoot who always said "personal responsibility"

send another white flag my way buddy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

So, nothing to say about the government apparently (deliberately) under reporting the weekly Covid deaths (at least for the States and Territories that are still reporting them) and then releasing them in one big 'hit' from time to time (but only to the World Health Organization, not the Australian people) because they obviously believe no one will notice?

I didn't think so.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:10pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

So, nothing to say about the government apparently (deliberately) under reporting the weekly Covid deaths (at least for the States and Territories that are still reporting them) and then releasing them in one big 'hit' from time to time because they obviously believe no one will notice?

I didn't think so.

can you not read?

what there is to "say" is that the government dont want to discuss it because the government pushed and pushed vaccines and masks and lockdowns and none of it worked

thus they are embarrassed by their actions and want you to ignore covid

you might as well do that

there is nothing you can do except take aquascoots great advice to work on your own physical health

this is also known as "personal responsibility"
a concept foreign to the inferior man

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:10pm:

You're an idiot.

There, I've finally said it. The temptation to do so finally became too much.

Sorry (not really).

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:21pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 6:10pm:

You're an idiot.

There, I've finally said it. The temptation to do so finally became too much.

Sorry (not really).

:)

so no counter arguement?

just the frustrated ramblings of someone who refuses to send all those white flags and change his foolish ways ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 9:33am

While people are still dying of Covid around Australia every week (including many elderly people) we have Stella here who "says it all" about how many Australians think about the elderly today.

If Mum stops breathing, I’m not resuscitating – I’m going house-hunting

Stella Spackman
October 5, 2023 — 5.00am

Quote:

It’s an oppressively hot day in Sydney’s inner west and four of us have congregated around the pool in the complex of someone’s rented apartment. As usual, we’re talking about our least-favourite topic – will we ever own property?

Basically, we’ve done everything right and applied the sensible advice of our elders. We worked hard at school and embarked on solid degrees at good universities and catapulted into the workforce shortly after graduation. We are the poster children for responsible decision-making, and we’re waiting to reap the reward we were promised – owning a roof over our heads.

Quote:

Of course, I could wait for my inheritance but that will probably arrive after my senior’s card. My smoking, drinking grandparents lived until their mid-90s and my health-obsessed parents will probably live forever.

To make matters worse, they have joined their generation’s hottest trend: the “grey divorce” – and are planning to sell their major asset, the family home. My mother says that, having climbed the property ladder, she is about to slide down the asset snake to meet me somewhere near the bottom. She jokes about moving in with me in my inner-west rental. Fine by me, but I’m not resuscitating her if she stops breathing, I’m jumping onto Domain.

Hey aqua, Stella wouldn't be a friend of yours by any chance would she?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where we're "at" in this once lucky (and once caring) country these days.

And...

https://nitter.net/annatime94/status/1709679815408963866#m

Quote:

Why am I not surprised that this headline is actually real.

I'm also not surprised.

Quote:

Kiwi Prole 💉💉💉💉💉😷
@annect64
1h
Replying to @annatime94
I'm not surprised either. This is what we have become.

Oct 4, 2023 · 10:34 PM UTC

Yes, I agree 100%.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 9:33am:

[quote]Of course, I could wait for my inheritance but that will probably arrive after my senior’s card. My smoking, drinking grandparents lived until their mid-90s and my health-obsessed parents will probably live forever.

To make matters worse, they have joined their generation’s hottest trend: the “grey divorce” – and are planning to sell their major asset, the family home. My mother says that, having climbed the property ladder, she is about to slide down the asset snake to meet me somewhere near the bottom. She jokes about moving in with me in my inner-west rental. Fine by me, but I’m not resuscitating her if she stops breathing, I’m jumping onto Domain.

Why am I not surprised that this headline is actually real.

I'm also not surprised.

Quote:

Kiwi Prole 💉💉💉💉💉😷
@annect64
1h
Replying to @annatime94
I'm not surprised either. This is what we have become.

Oct 4, 2023 · 10:34 PM UTC

Yes, I agree 100%.

Disgraceful stuff.[/quote]

correct carl

once upon a time people used to care about kids not missing out on schooling, not being terrifed by exageration of the risk of a mild virus. people used to care about the livelihood of small business owners

when did people become so selfish that all they care about is their own miserable safety

its so disgusting .

for once we agree

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:18pm

I've got bloody Covid again.
The only place I've been is the local shopping Center -
people cough and sneeze everywhere there.
I'm going through 100 to 200 tissues per day - for the last 2 days -
my nose is running like a tap.
Will I live?

This is my RAT test:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:42pm

Hope you're OK Bobby.

Were you wearing a high quality mask? My aunt and I managed to dodge Covid for over 2 years until we 'slipped up' 3 weeks ago when my aunt wasn't wearing a mask for 2 hours at the local Seniors Centre which is where I'm certain she caught it seeing as no one else masks there these days.

I don't see how she could have caught it anywhere else.

And then she gave it to me.

It won't happen again, I can assure you.

It was quite mild for both of us which surprised me, we've had worse reactions to the flu in the past. My aunt was on antivirals for 5 days and we've both had 5 Covid vaccinations which no doubt helped.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2080#2080 and read on from there.

You'll probably test positive (with RATs) for up to 2 weeks - took me 13 days until I tested completely negative . So much for 5 days isolation and then you're 'good to go' (back to work and shopping).

That's assuming anyone bothers to test and isolate anymore of course. The majority don't because... well... it's "just a cold", isn't it?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:54pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:42pm:

Thanks Carl,
I should have some immunity as I had Covid last Xmas.
My last AZ shot was in Jan 2022.

I don't wear any mask as I didn't have Covid.
My masks were always the cheap ones.

The fact is that people go to shopping centers and cough and sneeze everywhere
without a mask on and they probably don't even test themselves for Covid
and they don't care about anyone else.
People are filthy arseholes spreading the plague.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

The fact is that people go to shopping centers and cough and sneeze everywhere
without a mask on and they probably don't even test themselves for Covid
and they don't care about anyone else.
People are filthy arseholes spreading the plague.

Yes, I agree.

And that's aquascoot's "personal responsibility" on display once again for all to see.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:02pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Yes, I agree.

And that's aquascoot's "personal responsibility" on display once again for all to see.

I am starting to hate people in general.
Melbourne is a concrete jungle.
Most people are no better than animals such as pigs in a pig pen.
Even when they have lunch in the food courts they leave all the
packaging on the table -
whereas I take it all to the bins close by.
I don't leave a filthy table for someone else.
They don't care.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:40pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:42pm:

so it was a "mild respiratory virus " :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 7:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dear God! And you’re fully vaxxed too.

How many times have you tested positive for Covid Bobby? Isn’t this the 2nd time?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 7:08pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dear God! And you’re fully vaxxed too.

How many times have you tested positive for Covid Bobby? Isn’t this the 2nd time?

I had Covid last Xmas 2022.

My last booster shot was Jan 2022.
That was my 3rd shot of AstraZeneca.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 8:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:40pm:

so it was a "mild respiratory virus " :D :D

For my elderly aunt and I?

Yes it was.

This time. Next time we may not be so 'iucky'.

There is also the possibility of long term damage to the heart, lungs, brain and other organs which we are not aware of - yet.

And the chances of getting this damage increases with each infection.

That's why I intend to make sure there isn't a next time.

It definitely wasn't "mild" for these people.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/deaths

Why do you have to be such a d!ck about this all the time?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 8:40pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:40pm:

so it was a "mild respiratory virus " :D :D

because i have 5 grandchildren whose education and friendships were severely disrupted by the covid nonsense and i see the stats on increased anxiety in kids due to this "cult of safety"

and i see children as more important than adults

always have , always will and not about to apologise for it

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 10:39pm

I'm worried -

it's a Fauci/Chinese bio weapon that has struck me again.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 11:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:40pm:

so it was a "mild respiratory virus " :D :D

And the evidence keeps on mounting that this virus (SARS-CoV-2, more 'affectionately' known as COVID-19) can be anything but mild...

Cause of increased heart risk from COVID infection revealed

1 October 2023

Quote:

Researchers from New York University have uncovered an explanation for why infection with the virus that causes COVID-19 can increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes: it triggers an immune response in fatty plaques.

These plaques are fat deposits within the arteries, which accumulate over time, reduce blood flow and lead to complications like coronary heart disease and atherosclerosis.

Perhaps if evidence like this appeared in the media (it won't) then maybe we might see people exercising a bit more "personal responsibility", start wearing masks and stop coughing and sneezing everywhere with no concern whatsoever as to whether they infect others with a Level 3 Biohazard virus (plus the flu virus and goodness knows what else).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 5:17am

Carl D wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 11:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 6:40pm:

so it was a "mild respiratory virus " :D :D

the first thing anyone reading that would do (assuming they had a brain) is immediately adopt aquascoots philosophy of personal responsibility and get on an excellent diet and hit the gym

(assuming the gyms werent closed by some anxious authoritarian government )

obesity which doubled its rate of growth during the pandemic (which thankfully is now declared over) is the real problem ,

we cant blame the virus for everything

we must assume some "personal responsibility"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 5:39am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 7:08pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dear God! And you’re fully vaxxed too.

How many times have you tested positive for Covid Bobby? Isn’t this the 2nd time?

I had Covid last Xmas 2022.

My last booster shot was Jan 2022.
That was my 3rd shot of AstraZeneca.

I'm still alive this morning.
I got 4 hours of sleep overnight.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:23am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 5:39am:

I'm still alive this morning.
I got 4 hours of sleep overnight.

You'll be OK Bobby but it sounds like it affected you pretty badly. From memory it also wasn't too good for you the first time around.

But, you know how they say "laughter is the best medicine"? Here's some more great laughs from aquascoot that might make you feel a bit better. Reading his posts always gives me a good laugh (when I'm not rolling my eyes, of course).

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

the first thing anyone reading that would do (assuming they had a brain) is immediately adopt aquascoots philosophy of personal responsibility and get on an excellent diet and hit the gym

The majority of Australia's population these days don't seem to have a brain (or they won't have much of one left after multiple SARS-CoV-2 infections). Just the sort of population the government and big business love.

Quote:

(assuming the gyms werent closed by some anxious authoritarian government )

China? North Korea? Russia?

Quote:

obesity which doubled its rate of growth during the pandemic (which thankfully is now declared over) is the real problem ,

Really? do you have a link to a credible source declaring the pandemic over?

And, no... I don't mean this (from the Herald Sun, October 14th 2021).

Quote:

we cant blame the virus for everything

we must assume some "personal responsibility"

Perhaps you should contact the Federal government and see if they can open a new Personal Responsibility Department and put you in charge of it? Should be a pretty easy job... all you have to do is teach the majority of the Australian population to start using some "personal responsibilty" (that's sarcasm, by the way).

If you do get the job then here's a great place for you to start:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Just contact Bobby by Private Message and I'm sure he'll give you the name of the shopping centre where he believes he caught Covid again.

And after you've taught everyone there to use some "personal responsibility" you can then move on to every other shopping centre in Australia because they all probably need someone like you to teach them. At least I believe they do from what I've seen in the shopping centres I visit here in Perth.

Good luck with all of that. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:43am

Thanks Carl for the good advice.
Mr Aqua needs to get a dose of Covid so he'll understand.

Owing to the filthy pigs we have in our population -
who spread Covid everywhere -
Covid is here to stay - ineffective vaccines will be offered every year for it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 1:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:43am:

ive probably had it, all my kids and grandkids have and i see them nearly daily

never worn a mask,
never had a symptom

i can only assume , its so mild i didnt even notice it

i did have one afternoon last year where i had a couple of yawns

maybe that was it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

my fatigue from long covd lasted 20 minutes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

I wonder what the chances would be of aquascoot catching Covid when he lives on a farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population:10)?

Pretty slim would be my guess.

Even his maskless wife working in the local hospital which is probably no bigger than the average suburban house would have to be pretty unlucky to catch it.

By the way... you can get a SARS-CoV-2 antibody test which will definitely tell you if you've ever had Covid, which is useful if you're one of the rare people who weren't even aware that they'd had it and you wanted to know for sure.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

i run 2 businesses and have interactions with numerous people

now, go and get your aunt a set of hand weights so she can build core strength and doesnt suffer another fall.

try to adopt some personal responsibility for those in your care

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 3:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

try to adopt some personal responsibility for those in your care

That reminds me - have you contacted the government yet about setting up a Department of Personal Responsibility with you in charge?

Every time I think about it this keeps coming to mind for some reason?

The Ministry of Silly Walks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLp7zodUiI

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 5:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 1:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:43am:

I feel awful and I have a temp - see pic.
I just took 2 more Panadols so that should help me.

Temp_6th_Oct__2023.jpg (45 KB | 7 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:23pm

I still feel crook.

Covid-19 is a bio-weapon that attacks every organ in your body:
heart, intestines, liver, kidneys, brain, skin etc.
Common colds only attack the nasal passages, throat and lungs.

The bastards who made it should be hanged -
so far 7 million dead that we know about and
at least as many maimed or who have had their lives ruined.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:54am

Covid 19 arose in the wet market so not a bioweapon.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:43am:

Booby,

When you visit shopping centres do you wear a mask? Have up to date vaccinations?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:34am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:43am:

Bobby,

When you visit shopping centers do you wear a mask? Have up to date vaccinations?

I'm feeling a lot better this morning.
My nose is not running like a tap - temp normal.
No - I don't wear a mask in shopping centers anymore.
Maybe I should.

I reckon 3 doses of AZ was enough for me and I don't want any mRNA vaccine.
They are too dangerous - that's what killed Shane Warne.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am:

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

With the filthy pigs that are around I'm not surprised -
they cough and sneeze everywhere and don't even bother to wear a mask
or cover their nose when they expel viruses into the air -
when they show obvious signs of infection.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:51am

But you go into those pits of filth all the time. Your own fault you got covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:56am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:51am:

But you go into those pits of filth all the time. Your own fault you got covid.

Well - how else can I do my shopping?
Those pigs are everywhere.

The last time I got the flu was over 4 years ago -
that was from taking the train from Geelong to Melbourne and back.
I was crook for over 2 weeks.
You can't open the windows for fresh air and arseholes were
coughing and sneezing the whole way there and back.
The train is a germ factory.
I wonder how often they wash the air filters?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:01am

Go to a butcher shop or bulk butcher for your meat. Go to a greengrocer for your meat and veg.

Visit supermarkets early in the morning when not many people are there.

Use the sanitiser or bring your own—lots of sanitiser stations do not have sanitiser in them these days.

Wash hands after returning home.

Wear a mask when shopping/in groups of people.

Don’t eat in food courts FFS!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:04am

You didn’t keep your vaccinations up to date—the virus mutates! You don’t wear a mask. You eat in food courts. You visit big shopping centres in the middle of the day and you wonder how you got covid???

LastNail has really brainwashed you, hasn’t he?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:07am

Why not move to a nice country town? That by itself will likely redice your risk of covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:32am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:04am:

Not just Sir Nail (although he did play a large part, I'm sure).

The following link looks into how the majority of the population have being 'brainwashed' into believing SARS-CoV-2 is just a cold.

Public Health Messaging Missteps Fuel Vaccine Disinformation

(this is about the US but it also applies to Australia and most Western countries)

Quote:

Throughout the Covid-19 pandemic, not only has there been an abundance of misinformation posted on social media about vaccines; public health officials and others have committed plenty of missteps in messaging.

A veritable flood of misinformation—often in the guise of unfounded conspiracy theories—coupled with poor communication from public health authorities contributed to the U.S. having worse Covid-19 outcomes than its peers. This is partly due to the fact that among people most at risk of severe disease—the over-65 age group, immunocompromised and those with other comorbid conditions—the U.S. trails other wealthy nations in Covid-19 vaccination rates.

Quote:

In their book, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market, Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway suggest that many millions of Americans seemed to either “disbelieve what government officials were telling them about Covid-19 or to regard public health measures such as vaccines and mask mandates as encroachments on their liberty.”

Oreskes and Conway claim that 40% of Covid-19 deaths could have been prevented if Americans trusted science and government more.

Quote:

In parts of America, an inherently libertarian streak averse to government mandates of virtually any kind appears to have played a role in opposing nonpharmaceutical interventions, such as masks and social distancing, as well as Covid-19 vaccine requirements.

What’s disturbing is that the Covid-19 pandemic seems to have also brought out the vaccine skeptics in full force, not only toward coronavirus vaccines but also traditional childhood immunizations, like those targeting polio, tetanus and measles.

From smallpox inoculations—which began in the late 18th century and ended when the disease was eradicated in the 1970s—to mumps, rubella, tetanus, diphtheria, polio and measles immunizations, vaccination has saved millions of lives and prevented crippling and life-threatening illnesses from occurring.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am

As I said last week, Covid Live has now become unreliable for getting the latest Covid case and deaths numbers so I go to Denis here:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1710246419574272406#m

Quote:

🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 6 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 64 (+14)
🔸Cases: 4,668 (-887)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 9
🔹VIC: 875 / 36
🔹WA: 660 / 5
🔹SA: 645 / NR
🔹QLD: 504 / 14
🔹TAS: 275 / 0
🔹ACT: 168 / 0
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported

64 deaths last week (and that's with no death numbers from South Australia and the NT. Queensland is, as usual, using a 'rolling average' (i.e. it's a best guess).

Covid Live is showing only 21 deaths so I won't bother using them as a source from now on.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Whoever runs it has probably just about given up which doesn't surprise me with our State and Federal governments' ongoing gradual push to hide the numbers and make Covid 'magically' disappear. Especially with Christmas coming up.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:49am

Carl, there is a growing antiscience movement that has morphed out of the antivaxx movement.

From my fine forum:

Quote:

Not just antivax tho that has helped build the movement. Antiscience with anti semitic feelings too the science of Einstein and Freud called “jewish science.”

The antivaxx movement has as its theme that vaccinations of children causes autism. Children are now dying of measles again in wealthy countries.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccine-scientist-warns-antiscience-conspiracies-have-become-a-deadly-organized-movement/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:57am

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:04am:

[quote]In their book, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market, Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway suggest that many millions of Americans seemed to either “disbelieve what government officials were telling them about Covid-19 or to regard public health measures such as vaccines and mask mandates as encroachments on their liberty.”

Oreskes and Conway claim that 40% of Covid-19 deaths could have been prevented if Americans trusted science and government more.

Quote:

And, the 'peer pressure' to no longer wear a mask is getting greater and greater as time goes on. I found it interesting that the day after mask mandates in shops and other places were scrapped in WA last year many people were still wearing them but over the next few days the number dropped and dropped until only about 5% of people were wearing them. The number is now down to about 1% from what I see when I'm shopping.

Obviously many people were not aware that the mask mandates had been scrapped and continued to wear them the next day but word got around that masks were no longer mandated "you don't need to wear those anymore" (I even had a receptionist say that to my aunt and I at our GPs' office a couple of months after the mask mandates were scrapped).[/quote]

This is going to be one of the unintended negative consequences of the covid vaccine

Polio tetanus measles mumps and rubella hepatitis b vaccines are extremely effective

You may need a booster after 20 years but basically they provide nearly 100% protection

By conflating these excellent vaccines with the ludicrously ineffective covid vaccines
A lot of the general public are likely to lose faith in the vaccination process itself

How can the covid vaccines even be called a vaccination when they do not prevent infection and they do not prevent transmission
What the authorities should do is admit they got it wrong
When they said this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms
They need to look the Australian public in the eye
And apologise for such an outrageous lie

They need to then throw all the covid vaccines in landfill
Actually they seem to be doing this with two billion being disposed of
But they need to separate this useless vaccine
From the other very effective vaccines

To not do so will cost lives
And not the lives of 90 year olds with dementia
It will cost the lives of infants and young children
Who any rational person realize are our most precious generation

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:09am

The covid vaccines are effective. Without them the death toll would have approached that of the Black Death

As a new virus it mutates a lot and the mutations are pretty bad for our health.

It is not the vaccines, it is the antiscience movement that arose out of the antivax movement whioch happened pre-covid.

The antivax movement was already thriving—thousands of children in wealthy countries now die of measles, whooping cough etc, the so-called “harmless childhood diseases!” There is no science in the antivax movement, just look at the nonsense you, Nails and Booby have been spreading.

Anti science, anti commonsense bullshit artists the lot of you! Contemptible nobodies looking for attention.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:04am

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

Carl a big thank you for being so faithful in keeping this topic up to date.

The numbers are politically controlled because there are other agendas. Where does that leave us?

I think we need to do our own due diligence and take no chances by minimising all risks where possible.

And it’s not just for Covid19 ...virtually every bloody virus known to man is coming back in some mutated form and our medications/vaccines can’t keep up. We can’t ignore this fact anymore.

We MUST focus on building up immunity by eating/drinking immunity building healthy food/beverages.

I use bleach/disinfectant etc to sterilise our surfaces/floors and door handles etc.

I wash our towels/tea/towels/clothes thoroughly after single use. I wash all used cutlery and crockery twice and rinse in boiling water.

Ok so I spend a lot of money on dishwashing liquid/washing liquid/powder and bleach/disinfectant...but it’s helping me to stay and feel safe given I’m totally unvaccinated. And as I’ve never tested positive for Covid19 ... it’s working.

Note : We NEVER use public transport only our private cars AND I particularly always wear a mask (or throw a scarf 🧣 around my neck which I place up over my mouth 👄 ) if/when I’m out and about.

As we all lead different lives ... what works for me/my household may not work for you/your household.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:11am

LOL. What Larry would like to be the case.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:13am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:04am:

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:18am

For those wanting coronavirus–free dishes take comfort:

Quote:

A recent journal Food Microbiology study demonstrates that human coronaviruses remain stable for up to 21 days on glass surfaces. However, common dishwashing detergents and scrubbing devices were found to be sufficient to inactivate and eliminate these viruses from glass surfaces.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220410/Common-dishwashing-detergents-may-eliminate-coronaviruses-from-glass.aspx#

Seems lipids are one layer of the virus and adequate detergent and warm water removes that layer. Nice warm water helps. I boil some water, add it to the sink after cups, glasses and saucers are washed to tackle plates and cutlery and another lot of boiling water when I get to pans, frypans and implements used with them.

By the time I have done all that my back is screaming so I cover the dishes with a teatowel and go sit down.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:09am:

Incorrect the vaccines are not effective
Firstly there are plenty of people who have had four or five vaccines who have then contracted covid
There is no way that would be acceptable for a tetanus whooping cough measles mumps or rebella vaccine

Secondly assuming Bobby is under 65 the current advice from the Australian vaccine website is that vaccines only recommended for those over 65
So the science
And surely there is no authority higher than ATAGI
Have stopped recommending boosters

How can you say the vaccine is effective when the head scientists do not recommend it to the vast majority of the population
And the vast majority of the population continue to catch covid

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

The vaccines have markedly underperformed

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:34am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am:

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

Unfortunately, that's what happens when our governments dismantle Public Health and replace it with something called Personal Responsibility (a.k.a. "You Do You").

I've been saying that for a long time.

And, I've also been saying this for a long time - I don't know how the Federal government keeps getting away with ignoring this (which Australia is a signatory to):

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Specifically Article 12 Section 2 (c). And probably (b) and (d) as well.

As well as the States ignoring their own individual Health Acts.

Last I heard (which was a while ago) some lawyers were supposed to be looking into this.

But, in the meantime, "ignorance is bliss" as far as the majority of the population is concerned... I bet 99% of them wouldn't know anything about the above Covenant or even their own State's Health Acts.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:36am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

And we're just unlucky that you're still an idiot.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:55am

Up For Carl.

I for one appreciate your efforts ok?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:04am:

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:09am:

No they worked well.

For the flu you need a yearly vaxx—is the flu virus ineffective or does it just mutate too much?

Covid will eventually, 10-20 years time, be a once yearly vaxx as well.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:05pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am:

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

Not one shopping center has any security guards to enforce rules
of public hygiene to kick people out who have obvious signs of respiratory infection.
One time at the local center there was a fat woman sitting
on the chairs near the main entrance coughing and sneezing every 10 to 20 seconds
without using any tissues - straight into the air -
and she was still there doing it 30 minutes later.
A security guard close by did nothing about it.
Everyone walking into that center walked through a cloud of aerosol snot
full of bacteria and viruses.
IQs are very low in Melbourne.
I think about 30% of people here are morons.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Well, you are a moron for visiting those places in the middle of the day. Really—what the hell did you expect? Did you think the epidemic was over?

Don’t blame others, the “pigs” are not in your control. YOUR behavior is in your control, work on that.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:24pm

BTW, if you use bodywash or handwash they will kill all viruses and bacteria PROVIDED they contain

Sodium Laureth Sulfate.

At the moment I am using soap—an anticoronavirus decision I made. The little handbasin in the toot gets lots of soapscum, think I will clean it again then use handwash containing SLS.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:29pm

I got through 3 years of a covid pandemic in Australia without being infected with covid. 11 million cases of covid have been detected in Australia. I would presume that many of those cases are reinfections. So, perhaps 1 in 4 Australians have had covid. Living well away from infection areas, such as cities, you are less likely to experience the first case of covid, never mind the other reinfections.

This disease is such a non-issue this year that I am surprised that the topic has lasted more than 6 months.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:

Melbourne is full of Covid right now.
It's like a place full of diseased rats.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm

So move out of Melbourne.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:04pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

So move out of Melbourne.

Maybe I should move close to Hobart in the country?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

Here you go... all that you need to know.

Debunking COVID-19 myths and misinformation

This is from Canada but it also applies to Australia and just about everywhere else in the world these days.

I'm sure you'll completely ignore it (or not even bother reading any of it) as usual but at least I'm still trying.

You're welcome. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:04pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

So move out of Melbourne.

Maybe I should move close to Hobart in the country?

You are too poofy for Hobart, according to your own words.

What about a town in the Yarra Valley?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:50pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

Good find, Carl, will have a read of that tonight.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:02pm

Up For Carl.

I for one appreciate your efforts ok?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:04am:

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:04pm

Still responding to me, Larry? You do realise this makes you look like a clown, right?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:07pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:04pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

So move out of Melbourne.

Maybe I should move close to Hobart in the country?

You are too poofy for Hobart, according to your own words.

What about a town in the Yarra Valley?

I don't want to live in the roaring 40s.
Hobart is only nice for 3 months of the year in summer.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:08pm

What about a town in the Yarra Valley?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

What about a town in the Yarra Valley?

I'm staying in the plague city of Melbourne.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 2:21pm

Then stop whining when you get covid again and again.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm

I've still got Covid -
my temp is slightly above normal tonight at 37.4

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:19pm

I had the sniffles this morning had to use half a dozen tissues for the first time in ages.

Do i have covid?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:19pm:

I had the sniffles this morning had to use half a dozen tissues for the first time in ages.

Do i have covid?

Use a RAT kit to find out.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:19pm:

I had the sniffles this morning had to use half a dozen tissues for the first time in ages.

Do i have covid?

Use a RAT kit to find out.

Feeling OK now.

Don't have any RAT

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:19pm:

I had the sniffles this morning had to use half a dozen tissues for the first time in ages.

Do i have covid?

Use a RAT kit to find out.

Feeling OK now.

Don't have any RAT

I used my last RAT kit - still waiting for a friend to deliver some more.

This was the test:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

I used my last RAT kit - still waiting for a friend to deliver some more.

This was the test:

Sorry to hear you're crook Bobby.

Let's hope for a quick recovery eh mate. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:16pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

I used my last RAT kit - still waiting for a friend to deliver some more.

This was the test:

Sorry to hear you're crook Bobby.

Let's hope for a quick recovery eh mate. :)

Thanks Geoff,

I started to feel sick on the 3rd of October 2023.
So that's over 4 days now.
I have made a big improvement today - only a slight temp.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 10:15am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:16pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

I used my last RAT kit - still waiting for a friend to deliver some more.

This was the test:

Sorry to hear you're crook Bobby.

Let's hope for a quick recovery eh mate. :)

Thanks Geoff,

I started to feel sick on the 3rd of October 2023.
So that's over 4 days now.
I have made a big improvement today - only a slight temp.

Hope you're starting to feel better, Bobby.

There's probably not much point in testing yourself daily right now because it took me 13 days to show a totally negative RAT.

Unless you have quite a few RATs to spare, of course. Fortunately, I have lots of them here thanks to the WA free RAT program (which has now ended).

I still have 11 boxes with 5 tests per box and they don't expire until mid March. I'll just test myself (and my elderly aunt) from time to time and as the tests get closer to the expiry date I'll give some of them to family and friends if they want them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 2:29pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 10:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:16pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

I used my last RAT kit - still waiting for a friend to deliver some more.

This was the test:

Sorry to hear you're crook Bobby.

Let's hope for a quick recovery eh mate. :)

Thanks Geoff,

I started to feel sick on the 3rd of October 2023.
So that's over 4 days now.
I have made a big improvement today - only a slight temp.

Thanks Carl,
a friend just dropped off some kits at lunchtime.
I did another test 25 minutes ago.
I've still got it.
My temp last night was only a mild 37.4 C

My first symptoms were on the 3rd of October.
First test positive 5th of October.
Second test just now also positive.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 9:02am

This topic is possibly the most important topic in OzPol. It directly affects every single person here. Every single day.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Wow. I don't believe it.

Covid is mentioned in the media today.

COVID-19 costing the Australian economy billions

Of course it's all about the economy but hopefully it will wake more and more people up (including our pollies) and snap them out of their "she'll be right" attitude towards Covid.

But I doubt it.

Quote:

COVID-19 is costing the Australian economy billions in lost worker productivity and healthcare spending.

The pandemic may be moving into the endemic phase but the virus is still wreaking havoc on the health of the population and the economy.

Research commissioned by pharmaceutical company MSD Australia has tallied the future economic cost of the virus and found it could land anywhere between $17 billion and $56 billion each year.

"Endemic" is this case means endless illness and deaths.

And...

https://nitter.net/annatime94/status/1711967752699961737#m

Quote:

Any comment on this, Sally (McManus)?

Long COVID is also taking a toll, with Australia tracking towards a situation where 46 days are lost to each person diagnosed with the condition.

No comment by Sally... no surprise there.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:13pm

yes carl, the vaccines have been a total flop.

thank god some people took personal responsibility and worked on their fitness, thereby leaving hospitals free to treat the sloppy chodes who just relied on the vaccine .

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:15pm

sloppy people who refuse to take personal responsibility are a much bigger burden carl
and the facts sustain it

How does obesity affect the economy in Australia?
The impact on the economy is large: overweight accounts for 8.6% of health expenditure; and lowers labour market outputs by the equivalent of 371 thousand full-time workers per year. Combined, this means that overweight reduces Australia's GDP by 3.1%.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

"Personal Responsibility" ::) ::) ::)

I'm sure Bobby can tell you all about that after what's happened to him in the shopping centres he's been to lately.

Oh, and...

There he goes again.

Hope you packed your parachute (again).

;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 9:02am:

This topic is possibly the most important topic in OzPol. It directly affects every single person here. Every single day.

I haven't tested myself for 3 days but I bet it would still be positive. :(

Bloody Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:34pm

Another 51 Covid deaths this week.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1712709636682662080#m

Cases are only lower because most people don't bother testing and several States are only recording PCR tests now, no RATs.

And, once again, I totally agree with Tim the ex virologist:

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1712755770172084628#m

Quote:

51 Australians

@AlboMP continues to do

Nothing

$400Million spent on the failed voice referendum could have been used to buy updated vaccines or air purifiers for schools & businesses

Lives could have been saved

Would have been saved

Plus, the national disgrace that is Covid deaths in aged care continues with another 14 deaths this week bringing the total to 1,128 deaths for 2023.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1712728646279123087#m

While part time Federal Minister for Aged Care (and full time Minister for Sport) Anika Wells also continues to do nothing.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 4:57pm

I still have symptoms of Covid but I just got a negative test
saying that I don't have it now.

First symptoms 3rd Oct.
First test positive 5th Oct.
Second test positive 8th Oct.
Third test negative 14th Oct:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 5:47pm

Good to see you've fimally tested negative, Bobby.

As I said recently - took me a full 13 days before I finally tested negative.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2084#2084

But my symptoms (and my elderly aunt's) were very mild. In fact, if I hadn't been keeping up with all the Covid info (as little as there is lately) over the past year I probably would have thought it was "just a cold" which is what happens with most people nowadays.

Which is why I keep saying that the true number of weekly Covid cases is probably 10, 20 or even 30 times the number being reported.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 5:47pm:

Good to see you've fimally tested negative, Bobby.

As I said recently - took me a full 13 days before I finally tested negative.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2040#2040

But my symptoms (and my elderly aunt's) were very mild. In fact, if I hadn't been keeping up with all the Covid info (as little as there is lately) over the past year I probably would have thought it was "just a cold" which is what happens with most people nowadays.

Which is why I keep saying that the true number of weekly Covid cases is probably 10, 20 or even 30 times the number being reported.

The doctors at RPH told me it was pointless testing after you've been confirmed positive as the results won't be reliable.

When my mother was discharged from RPH after having COVID I asked them if they tested her that morning and they said: "No, we don't test patients after they've had the virus as the result will almost always be wrong".

:-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 5:47pm:

Thanks - saw your test.
the real Covid numbers could be 100 times what is reported.
I didn't report anything this time.
I got no response last Xmas when I reported my first case.
The Govt. doesn't care anymore.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 15^th, 2023 at 2:14am

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 15^th, 2023 at 5:14am

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 15^th, 2023 at 2:14am:

Wow -
so the Govt. is not even interested in RAT kit tests.

They really have changed their tune.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:33am

I visited the health centre in a nearby town. EVERYONE was wearing a mask! Visitors and staff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 8:47am

Quote:

COVID drug helps bring back sense of smell
Clinical-trial data suggest that an antiviral pill called ensitrelvir is among the first treatments for COVID-19 that helps the sense of smell and taste return more quickly after infection. For now, ensitrelvir is available only in Japan (under the brand name Xocova) but it is under fast-track review in the United States. “When the Omicron variants became dominant, the loss of taste and smell started to become less and less common,” says infectious-disease specialist Amesh Adalja. “But it still occurs, and it is a distressing symptom.”

Original paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03244-7

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 21^st, 2023 at 10:18am

Yes, SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) still hasn't gone away and people are still dying every week.

Another 70 deaths reported last week (even with several States no longer reporting deaths).

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1715255443541709073#m

Quote:

🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 20 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 70 (+19)
🔸Cases: 5,228 (+96)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 19
🔹VIC: 1,211 / 30
🔹SA: 862 / NR
🔹QLD: 749 / 14
🔹TAS: 355 / 1
🔹ACT: 298 / 0
🔹WA: 212 / 6
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported

Cases also on the way up again even though RATs are no longer reported, PCR tests are almost impossible to get and hardly anyone is testing anyway.

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1715215281201828057#m

Quote:

Did National Cabinet take a secret decision last week to stop reporting RAT tests across Australia?

Looks like it

Another attempt by @AlboMP to deliberately obfuscate data on COVID prevalence in Australia

COSTING $25B+ pa

What’s next?

Funny you should ask that, Tim.

Next up is the total removal of reporting of ALL Covid information, starting with New South Wales:

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1715125607569256789#m

Quote:

From 20 October 2023 this NSW COVID-19 weekly update will no longer be published on NSW Health’s website and social media channels. The best indicators of COVID-19 activity in the community at this time are emergency department presentations for COVID-19 and sewage surveillance.

Soon to be followed by the rest of the States, no doubt.

What's the bet that Queensland will be next? Especially with that buffoon of a CHO, aquascoot's hero Dr. Gerrard running things there.

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1715315031687262350#m

Quote:

Lex Luthor is in charge of Qld’s health

Expect a lot of death

Sadly, yes. And Lex Luthor is a fitting description of this clown.

Actually, "Lex" has been a bit quiet lately (which isn't such a bad thing). Is he now keeping a low profile because he's embarrassed with being wrong about Covid all the time?

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Oct 21^st, 2023 at 4:49pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2023 at 8:47am:

Quote:

Original paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03244-7

Wow that’s good!
It’s taken the good part of the whole of last year to regain my smell/taste.
Everything smelt like coffee.
Couldn’t even smell my different perfumes!
Worst part is not knowing if food is off so had to be very careful.

But that’s good news to know there’s an anti viral drug to help regain smell/taste.
It’s not just COVID that can affect those senses…. I had a sinus infection before all that COVID jazz….and I lost sense of taste/smell for a month!
So glad it came back.
Then COVID got me!
But…. since my antibodies have formed from all that I’m good as gold for nearly 2 years now… not a cough, cold, flu or sniffle since! I’m elated!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 8:28am

Another 69 (reported) Covid deaths for Australia last week.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1717770666236408228#m

Quote:

🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 27 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 69 (-1)
🔸Cases: 6,699 (+1,471)

🔹NSW: 1,911 / 17
🔹VIC: 1,407 / 32
🔹SA: 1,069 / NR
🔹QLD: 931 / 14
🔹TAS: 469 / 1
🔹ACT: 370 / 1
🔹WA: 304 / 4
🔹NT: 238 / 0

NR = Not Reported

Cases on the way up again (even with PCR tests only, no RATs).

At least Victoria is admitting it.

https://nitter.net/VicGovDH/status/1717786145193423095#m

Quote:

Community transmission of COVID is increasing across Victoria.

This is an expected part of the ongoing evolution of COVID in the community, as our immunity wanes with time.

Quote:

Frank Buijk
@FrankBuijk
43m
Replying to @VicGovDH
It is not only our immunity that wanes over time.

It is also our trust in our State governments and departments that wanes over time due to misinformation and disinformation.

Yes.

And, the esteemed Dr. Berger is spot on... as usual.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1717806186702242095#m

Quote:

"Community transmission of COVID is increasing across Victoria. This is an expected part of the ongoing evolution of COVID in the community, as our immunity wanes with time."

Oh. I thought there was going to be ever increasing hybrid immunity. I demand my money back!

I'd like mine back as well... I wonder if aquascoot has had a reply from "Lex Luthor"/"Dr. Death" yet? Maybe he can provide an answer for Dr. Berger? ::)

Meanwhile, in NSW...

https://nitter.net/NSWHealth/status/1717375558491770970#m

Quote:

With COVID-19 cases increasing in the community, some people, including people at higher risk of severe illness, may choose to wear a mask to protect themselves, such as when in indoor settings or on public transport. Be kind and considerate of someone’s choice to wear a mask.

At least they're also admitting Covid cases are increasing.

Dr. Berger's thoughts on that one:

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1717723594774683979#m

Quote:

As the ninth COVID wave grows, @NSWHealth doesn't say "wear masks". It says "please don't be beastly to the people who wear masks", like they're anxiously wringing their hands and begging the bully not to beat up the spotty kid.

This is what passes for public health in 2023.

Sadly, yes.

And now... on top of the States slowly but surely stopping the reporting of all Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths the Federal data is going to be reported monthly from now on:

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1717696575840129118#m

Quote:

Federal COVID-19 reporting is moving to a monthly reporting schedule, with today being the final weekly report. The next report is expected 10th November 2023.

The replies say it all, in my opinion.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 8:42am

And with all of that I would also like to announce that this is my final post in this section of the forum.

The reasons are:

1. The slow but sure 'hiding' of Covid information by the States and now the move to monthly reporting by the Federal government.

How are people expected to use "personal responsibility" and "assess their own risks" without the information to do so? Even if they were capable of doing that which the majority are not (i.e. they don't give a stuff mainly because they're clueless)?

2. It would appear no one reading any of these posts gives a stuff anymore judging by the number of replies lately (not counting those by idiots like aquascoot) and let's face it... this place is a bigger 'echo chamber' than Twitter/X is these days. I may as well "talk" to the walls.

Good luck everyone... you're on your own now with another huge Covid wave now engulfing Australia and the total abandonment of public health by our governments.

https://nitter.net/pizza_marcus/status/1717891464150319365#m

Quote:

Another brilliant job @AlboMP @Mark_Butler_MP
Hospitalisations up 15% across the country in 1 week. Cases up 30% with less testing, new quick speed wave and you change reporting. Loving that transparency you promised before election.

Quote:

Davo
@davo77
2h
Replying to @pizza_marcus @NobodyImpawtant @AlboMP @Mark_Butler_MP
To be fair, they’re pretty transparent that they don’t give a stuff about us

Bullseye!

But hey... Christmas is just around the corner... don't forget to spend up big... our governments and businesses will love you (or at least love your purses and wallets) for that.

Will the last person to leave this section please turn out the lights. Thanks.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 11:52am

carl

you have gone down a weird hypochondriac rabbit hole

some people have an extreme fear of flying

they probably post news articles about air crash disasters and think CASA are full of shonks

some people have an extreme fear of sharks

they probably go online and whinge about the lack of shark nets and how the government arent "keeping us safe'

its just your perspective and it is not shared by the vast majority.

how do we know it isnt?

because if it was, the media and the government would be all over it.

you want to get with the times

you should have been stressing over the ukraine and then the voice and now the palestinians

you risk being chucked out of the leftie cult

update your software

covid is so 2020 :P :P

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 4:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

I know, Aquascoot, but there's still a risk, you have to admit.

Quote:

Judge Calls Out Trump Lawyers Who Asked for COVID Delay—But Won’t Wear Masks

Judge Engoron denied a request from Chris Kise, one of Donald Trump’s attorneys, who asked for former president’s New York fraud trial to be postponed because members of the attorney general’s legal team have tested positive for COVID.

Kise said he was sitting away from the AG’s table Tuesday to avoid catching COVID and complained about his opponents’ lack of notification, saying that “the leading candidate for president of the United States in this courtroom today,” and griping “I don't think we should really be here today.”

Another Trump lawyer, Alina Habba, said she did not want to use the same microphone as the AG’s office.

Judge Engoron said that the trial would proceed as planned, clapping back at the request: “Masks are available. We are going to proceed.” A spokesperson for the AG’s office said later that it had followed the CDC’s guidelines, adding: “if there were any concerns, defendants could wear masks today or at any point, but they have opted not to.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-arthur-engoron-blasts-trump-lawyers-asking-for-covid-delaywithout-wearing-masks

DEEP STATE!!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 5:09pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

I know, Aquascoot, but there's still a risk, you have to admit.

Quote:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-arthur-engoron-blasts-trump-lawyers-asking-for-covid-delaywithout-wearing-masks

DEEP STATE!!!

carl and myself are discussing qlds chief health officer

please leave trump out of it

and please remember that he is to be called "rapist" at all times or you might get ex communicated from the oz politic leftie cult

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 14^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 10:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 5:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

I know, Aquascoot, but there's still a risk, you have to admit.

Quote:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-arthur-engoron-blasts-trump-lawyers-asking-for-covid-delaywithout-wearing-masks

DEEP STATE!!!

Sorry? What does the person you call "Trump" have to do with this?

We're talking about the heightened risk of covid.

Do you disagree with these lawyers?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 10:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Belt and braces, Bobby. You listen to Aquascoot.

You stick out your arm, take your vax and say ah when they stick something in your mouth.

With any luck, you'll get a lollipop when you're done.

Miam miam, no?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 10:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Statistically that can be true. It's been known since
day one that the vaccine(s) will not protect everybody
100% from contracting COVID, but what they will do
is decrease the severity of the infection, and usually
stop you needing hospitalisation.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 8:05am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Were you hospitalised?

Were you put in ICU?

Did you die?

No?

I guess the 3 shots of AZ did work then :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 8:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Were you hospitalised?

Were you put in ICU?

Did you die?

No?

I guess the 3 shots of AZ did work then :-/

catching a disease twice after 3 vaccines doesnt sound like the definition of a vaccine to most "real" australians

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:54pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 10:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

You're not a homo are you? :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 8:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 6:43pm:

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

Were you hospitalised?

Were you put in ICU?

Did you die?

No?

I guess the 3 shots of AZ did work then :-/

catching a disease twice after 3 vaccines doesnt sound like the definition of a vaccine to most "real" australians

I didn't die - at least not yet. :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 6:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:35pm:

...catching a disease twice after 3 vaccines doesn't sound like the definition of a vaccine to most "real" Australians

That's because you don't know how well vaccines
work—or, admittedly, don't necessarily work for
every person.

We're talking about "breakthrough" infections.

The incidence of infections among fully- and
partially-vaccinated people was 98.5% and 90%
lower, respectively, than for unvaccinated people.
This means that there is a recognised potential for
vaccinated people to contract COVID from a 1.5%
chance to a 10% chance.

This was acknowledged by researchers from early in
the vaccinations program, and pointed to the fact
that protection from COVID infections for fully
vaccinated people was extremely high.

These few facts were totally ignored and/or refuted
by the rabid anti-vaxxer brigade, often to the detriment
of their health.

Quote:

The chances of being in an ICU bed in any given week if you’re unvaccinated is 60 per 1 million people, compared with 8 per 1 million people who have two or more doses of the vaccine.

Unvaccinated people are five to eight times more likely to end up in ICU than those who are vaccinated.

—Australian Academy of Science, NSW Health COVID-19
Critical Intelligence Unit, 24 June 2022.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 7:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 12:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 10:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:43pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1683678712/532#532 date=1698482626]

28th of October.

I am well over Covid.

My old test 14th Oct.

Has to be good news Bobby! :)

Thanks - I've had it twice now -
last Xmas 2022 and this October 2023.

I guess the 3 shots of AZ didn't work?

You're not a homo are you? :-[/quote]

What? Just because a chap is happy to roll up his sleeve and cop a short, hard jab under doctor's orders, you assume he's adverse to skirt?

How very dare you!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:21pm

32 Covid deaths reported this week. And that's with half of the States not reporting any Covid numbers whatsoever.

Cases are also ridiculously low again because they're PCR tests only - no RATs.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1725391277150376337#m

25 deaths in Victoria and 7 in Tasmania.

Meanwhile, the tragic "milestone" of 6,000 Covid deaths in aged care since the start of the pandemic was reached this week.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1725400184505639366#m

Quote:

🔸6,000 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,233 reported deaths in 2023

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1725400182437892341#m

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 16 November 2023

🔹Active cases: 2,425 (+33)
🔹Active outbreaks: 324 (+7)
🔹Residents: 1,707 (+36)
🔹Staff: 718 (-3)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,233 (+48)

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1725417004683948110#m

Quote:

So here we are

Flying blind with no little or no data in the 9th wave

Australia is newest member of the third world thanks to @AlboMP

Yes. 100% this.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 7:40am

Carl D wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 11:21pm:

🔸6,000 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,233 reported deaths in 2023

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1725400182437892341#m

[quote]COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 16 November 2023

🔹Active cases: 2,425 (+33)
🔹Active outbreaks: 324 (+7)
🔹Residents: 1,707 (+36)
🔹Staff: 718 (-3)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,233 (+48)

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1725417004683948110#m

Quote:

So here we are

Flying blind with no little or no data in the 9th wave

Australia is newest member of the third world thanks to @AlboMP

Yes. 100% this.[/quote]

Carl - could you put your hand up to mod Health and Welfare? Please? Your posts alone kinda give you away as being the best person for that job.

I know that you find it difficult to accept compliments but seriously you do post the best stuff ever!

And yes I do use your posts to inform others (contacts on my iPhone and on Facebook).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 10:48pm

RAT was positive for covid on Friday

Didn't sleep much last night.

Looks like i will be having a few days off using sick leave.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 6:15am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 18^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

RAT was positive for covid on Friday

Didn't sleep much last night.

Looks like i will be having a few days off using sick leave.

I’ve had the flu all week. I still don’t feel 100%. My daily home Covid19 tests keep coming back NEGATIVE.

Doctor reckons a bad flu is going around AS WELL as Covid. I’ve not been vaccinated against either. He won’t give me antibiotics at this stage (which p1ssed me off but I understand it IS the right move given my upset tummy issues).

So I’m laying low, eating healthy home made chicken and vegetable broths with lots of fresh curry/garlic and herbs chopped up into it. Also drinking lots of herbal tea and I’m using Panadol Rapid to ease the joint aches and migraine.

Heaps of disinfectant, hand sanitiser and bleach around the house. Poor washing machine hasn’t stopped going.

Meantime in breaking news WA is REintroducing the compulsory wearing of face masks when out/about.

Hmmm interesting.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 7:02am

Carl,

Quote:

32 Covid deaths reported this week.

No - it says only 7 deaths this week - all in Tasmania.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Deaths
Fri 17 Nov - Total Confirmed Deaths

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 8:43am

Bobby, Covid Live is not very reliable anymore.

Hasn't been for a while now due to the 'hiding' of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths by most of the States.

This guy (I assume it's a guy?) seems to have a way of 'digging' through the various Health Department websites and finding information. As limited as it now is.

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1725374719527145902#m

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1725294840362221921#m

https://www.health.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-11/covid-surveillance-report-17-november-2023.pdf

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 9:11am

This new outbreak is really hitting hard even in a well ventilated and regional area as mine.
Bloody Tourists are bringing it in with them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 9:24am

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

It seems that it is unreliable. :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:10pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Very interesting to look at those graphs in the links.
Thanks Carl.
I noted with interest in the first link how Victoria is second lowest! :o
There … we are not the zombie state anymore!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2023 at 11:12pm

Yes, people are still dying of Covid in Australia.

Even with the almost total lack of reporting now being done by our governments.

Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 24 November 2023

Quote:

Jurisdiction / Cases / Deaths

🔹SA: 2,065 / NR
🔹TAS: 969 / 4
🔹ACT: 488 / 1
🔹VIC: (No data) / 43

🔹WA: (No data)
🔹NSW: (No data)
🔹QLD: (No data)
🔹NT: (No data)

NR = Not Reported

48 deaths reported this week from only 3 States (43 of those deaths in Victoria). I imagine the number would sadly be considerably higher if the rest of the States and the NT were still reporting.

Case numbers once again would need to multiplied by 100 (at least) to get anywhere near the true number.

Meanwhile, the disgrace that is Covid deaths in aged care continues unabated.

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 23 November 2023

Quote:

🔹Active cases: 2,214 (-211)
🔹Active outbreaks: 301 (-8)
🔹Residents: 1,532 (-136)
🔹Staff: 682 (-16)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,255 (+25)

Quote:

🔸6,022 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,255 reported deaths in 2023

But, just keep washing those hands and I'm sure everything will eventually be OK (not) and remember... especially if you're in NSW... be kind to people who choose to wear a mask (that's the 4th time they've posted that BS in a week). ::)

Quote:

Gertrude
@Anonymo56543274
6h
Replying to @NSWHealth
There's a cooker in your comms team.
If there's even an once of integrity left at @NSWHealth and the @NSWCHO, advise the public appropriately.
Wear a good mask, preferably N95 when you're out.
And cut the kindness crap.

Agreed. 100%

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 3:19am

I think with our new vaccinations and improved health practises we are well over the worst

https://www.health.gov.au/topics/covid-19/reporting

This is the 5th peak this year, each one has been lower than the previous one.

These charts shows since it begun we are on our 5th peak. Each being lower than the previous peak

https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/au

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

I'll be getting my 5th vaccination soon.
I do not want it and actively do things to avoid it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 5:24am

Carl D wrote on Nov 24^th, 2023 at 11:12pm:

Quote:

🔸6,022 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,255 reported deaths in 2023

Agreed. 100%

[/quote]

hi carl, there are a million people on twitter

you need to stop following the half dozen OCD mask cult nutters and get back into the mainstream

you have wandered down a rabbit hole just like nail

time for some course correction

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 7:10am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 5:24am:

hi carl, there are a million people on twitter

you need to stop following the half dozen OCD mask cult nutters and get back into the mainstream

you have wandered down a rabbit hole just like nail

time for some course correction

Is this anywhere near you?

Steve Thompson - X/Twitter (Nitter)

Quote:

The 15 bed hospital in my town Maleny has 15 COVID patients. None of them came in with COVID & coincidentally 1/3 of the staff are off with it as well. It appears almost everyone else in town is totally ignoring the threat that's why I'm thinking this wave could be a gamechanger.

And I see your hero is still as "popular" as ever.

Quote:

LM
@Lyn60139787
8h
Replying to @Steviesword
Masks are no doubt still not proportionate according to the CHO - no wonder people refer to him as Dr Death.

HAI C-19 Qld - & some mask promotion when Qld Health was more aligned to health

Seems like nearly everyone in Queensland calls him "Dr. Death". Why is that, I wonder?

Quote:

Steve Thompson.
@Steviesword
6h
Replying to @Lyn60139787
Mask use has started at Maleny Hospital now.

Did they get permission from "Dr. Death"? And how long will it last?

Quote:

lorimcgourty
@lorimcgourty
4h
Replying to @Steviesword @Lyn60139787
A little late unfortunately

As usual. The story of the entire pandemic. Too little, too late.

Quote:

Misty M. ⛰🌻🌳🌺🦋🐝😷
@Suzanne43554675
8h
Replying to @Steviesword
It won’t change a thing. Gerrard will just double down even further.

Yes, yes he will... because he's an idiot and his 'strings' are being pulled by Annastacia and big business (especially the tourism industry).

And finally... from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor).

Quote:

This seems fine

(That's sarcasm, by the way).

Carry on...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 7:41am

My partner's daughter—in Melbourne—recently
contracted COVID from her partner, who unknowingly
contracted it at his workplace and brought it home.

She's barely got any symptoms other than a sniffle,
and is still working at home (as she normally does).

He showed more influenza-type symptoms, and
spent a couple of days in bed, but is now up and
heading back to work next week.

I know both of them had at least two vaccinations
initially, but they seemed not to have followed up
with their boosters. I don't know if this is significant
or not.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 8:54am

I believe there needs to some sort of investigation into what's going on at NSW "Health" lately.

5 times in a week

Quote:

COVID-19 transmission continues to increase in NSW, with community transmission now moderate to high.

Do you need to refresh your COVID-safe habits to stop the spread of illness and protect others?

There can be no doubt whatsoever that they're just deliberately trolling now and it's about time someone was held accountable.

Disgraceful behaviour from a so called Health Department - especially with Covid running rampant in NSW (and the rest of Australia) and still causing a lot of illness and deaths.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 8:58am

At least Victoria manages to get it right.

https://nitter.net/VicGovDH/status/1727824825593565213#m

Quote:

You can protect yourself & your loved ones from COVID with these 5 other steps:

😷 Wear a mask
🏠 Stay home if sick
⏰ Test if you have symptoms
🌳 Let fresh air in or meet outdoors
💉 Stay up to date with your vaccinations. 2/2🧵

Wear a mask is #1. Well done. Even if the majority ignore it as usual.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 9:04am

Carl D wrote on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 7:10am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 5:24am:

Is this anywhere near you?

Steve Thompson - X/Twitter (Nitter)

Quote:

And I see your hero is still as "popular" as ever.

[quote]
LM
@Lyn60139787
8h
Replying to @Steviesword
Masks are no doubt still not proportionate according to the CHO - no wonder people refer to him as Dr Death.

HAI C-19 Qld - & some mask promotion when Qld Health was more aligned to health

Seems like nearly everyone in Queensland calls him "Dr. Death". Why is that, I wonder?

Quote:

Steve Thompson.
@Steviesword
6h
Replying to @Lyn60139787
Mask use has started at Maleny Hospital now.

Did they get permission from "Dr. Death"? And how long will it last?

Quote:

lorimcgourty
@lorimcgourty
4h
Replying to @Steviesword @Lyn60139787
A little late unfortunately

As usual. The story of the entire pandemic. Too little, too late.

Quote:

Misty M. ⛰🌻🌳🌺🦋🐝😷
@Suzanne43554675
8h
Replying to @Steviesword
It won’t change a thing. Gerrard will just double down even further.

This seems fine

(That's sarcasm, by the way).

Carry on...[/quote]

hi carl

if everyone is ignoring the threat, its probably because there isnt one.

i have a new rabbit hole for you to go down.

research the effect of worry on the immune system

the devestating health consequences of worrying about covid are undoubtedly trashing your immune system

the people you follow on twitter are a direct threat to your health

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 9:09am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 9:04am:

hi carl

if everyone is ignoring the threat, its probably because there isnt one.

i have a new rabbit hole for you to go down.

research the effect of worry on the immune system

the devestating health consequences of worrying about covid are undoubtedly trashing your immune system

the people you follow on twitter are a direct threat to your health

Oh, sod it... why am I wasting my time with this?

You're an idiot.

Ahhh... I feel much better now. Should have done that several replies back.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 10:06am

Carl D wrote on Nov 25^th, 2023 at 8:58am:

At least Victoria manages to get it right.

https://nitter.net/VicGovDH/status/1727824825593565213#m

Quote:

Wear a mask is #1. Well done. Even if the majority ignore it as usual.

Well, it would seem that NSW "Health" do know about the benefits of wearing a mask.

Guidance on wearing face masks

Last updated: 24 November 2023

Of course, you need to go looking for it like I've just done.

Can't upset the economy by having too many people wearing masks again - especially with Christmas just around the corner.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 10:07am

Yes, people are still dying every week from this "mild respiratory virus" and "big nothing burger".

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 1st December 2023 - dbRaevn

77 deaths reported from 5 States.

Including another 26 reported deaths in aged care.

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 30 November 2023 - Denis - the COVID info guy

Quote:

🔹Active cases: 1,946 (-117)
🔹Active outbreaks: 299 (+15)
🔹Residents: 1,334 (-84)
🔹Staff: 612 (-33)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,281 (+26)

And still not a word from any of our politicians. Disgraceful.

Tim here has a theory about that

Quote:

Why won’t @AlboMP do anything to reduce COVID transmission?

Or even talk about COVID?

LIABILITY

The Govt have received confidential legal advice without a doubt

It’s why @PeterDutton_MP remains silent as well

A truly bipartisan approach to killing Australians 💀

Bullseye!

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 8^th, 2023 at 11:33pm

Wow, looks like Victoria really isn't "the place to be" right now with 68 Covid deaths added this week.

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 8th December 2023 - dbRaevn

Plus 9 deaths from the States that are still providing numbers and the total deaths for this week is 77.

The ridiculously low number of (PCR test only) cases are also on the increase, especially in Queensland (up 20.7%).

Wonder what aquascoot's hero, Dr. Gerrard, is going to do about that? Nothing, of course.

Hope no one in Townsville needs to go to hospital anytime soon.

Townsville's public hospital under pressure as 106 staff test positive to COVID-19 - Denis - the COVID info guy.

Some comments...

Quote:

Just Jules.
@JustJul77588855
Dec 7
Replying to @BigBadDenis @JaneCaro @ShannonFentiman
This all could have been avoided if the Health Minister mandated masks for staff & visitors instead of listening to Dr Death. No wonder Annastacia is in trouble politically.

Dec 7, 2023 · 8:26 AM UTC

Quote:

CheshireKat 🦘🐨 😷
@Cheshire_Kat11
Dec 7
Replying to @BigBadDenis @ShannonFentiman
But QLD CHO Dr Death said 3 weeks ago:
-Covid waves are "getting less severe"
-There's no need to mandate masks in hospitals, they're "disproportionate" to the risk posed
-The "greatest risk" are for the over 65's.

I'm shocked that this isn't true!🙄

Quote:

🕯Gail ☺️✊🏽🐶🌈
@GailDianne1
Dec 7
Replying to @BigBadDenis @ShannonFentiman
What does Dr Death think about this 🤔

Quote:

Dave S - Federal ICAC Now!
@SssssDave
Dec 7
Replying to @BigBadDenis @ShannonFentiman
Is Qld's Dr Ghoul still against masks?

Yep, sure looks like "Lex Luthor" is loved by everyone in Queensland. ::)

And, not surprisingly, there are more Covid outbreaks, cases and deaths in aged care reported this week.

AUS - Aged care active cases and outbreaks 8th December 2023 - dbRaevn.

Quote:

Active cases: 1,996 (🔺50)
• Residents: 1,410 (🔺76)
• Staff: 586 (▼26)

Facilities with outbreaks: 317 (🔺18)

Quote:

📊AUS - Aged care resident COVID-19 deaths

Resident deaths: 22

Quote:

Scarletp
@scarletp1792
2h
Replying to @dbRaevn
Gee I wish those aged care residents would take more personal responsibility

.
😔💔

They should hire aquascoot to show them how to do it.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 4:58am

Thanks for the info Carl. 👍

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 9^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

Thanks Geoff.

Meanwhile, still in Victoria.

https://nitter.net/theheraldsun/status/1732965732991042025#m

Quote:

Covid deaths in Victoria have soared to 166 in the most recent reporting period, with nearly 60 per cent of lives lost in a younger age bracket than before. It comes as a potentially dangerous new variant, JN. 1, surfaces in the state

Not just the 'oldies' being killed by Covid anymore. Looks like there might be a bit less "flourshing" by aquascoot's precious young people happening now.

Surprised to see the Herald Sun covering this but I'll bet it isn't in their printed newspaper (that the majority of people read).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Dec 11^th, 2023 at 5:42am

So the News Corp papers make a big deal about the
climbing COVID death rate in Victoria, and the increasing
youthfulness of some of those deceased but then—
socially bankrupt and irresponsibly—puts the report
behind a paywall.

This is typical of Rupert Murdoch's cynical money-grubbing
style of news reporting. Hopefully this repugnant old man
will be dead by this time next year.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:10am

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview
15th December 2023

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1735549166548668429#m

Another 57 deaths reported this week (from the States that are still reporting).

47 of those deaths were in Victoria. 5 more in WA.

Once again, the case numbers are absurdly low because it's PCR tests only (for those who bother to get tested). No RATs.

And, yes... this would not surprise me at all:

Quote:

ian
@ian36613527
5h
Replying to @dbRaevn
Betting NSW has been recording > 100 deaths per week from covid since the reporting went monthly. probably up around 300 deaths per week this week but we'll not know and you can bet Minns and Park will be in np hurry to publish the data at the end of the current 4 wk period.

Aged care Covid outbreaks and deaths also continue.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1735539075933999262#m

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 14 December 2023

🔹Active cases: 2,126 (+180)
🔹Active outbreaks: 324 (+24)
🔹Residents: 1,460 (+76)
🔹Staff: 666 (+104)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,320 (+17)

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1735539078052053101#m

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🔸6,087 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,320 reported deaths in 2023

I notice Denis always 'tags' Anika Wells, Mark Butler and Anthony Albanese with these shocking aged care Covid case and death numbers every week but it's blantantly obvious that none of them give a sh!t... especially Wells (Federal Minister for Aged Care and Sport... but probably 99% Sport of course).

The longer they remain silent the worse it is going to be for them when they are eventually held accountable (and that applies to ALL of the pollies)... not too long now, I hope.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:15am

sounds like covid is here to stay and is going to continue to take out those with poor health

the message is

dont let yourself fall into poor health

take some "personal responsibility"

like this guy

Peter Anderson joined Surf Life Saving in 1997 at the ripe age of 61. After retiring, Peter was keen to try something different and decided surf life saving would be an interesting challenge. 23 years on and Peter said, “it’s probably the most rewarding, fulfilling and exciting thing I’ve ever done with my life.”

Peter has been involved in many rescues over his 20 years but will never forget a mass rescue involving 51 people who had washed off a collapsed sandbank He says he remembers “seeing a forest of arms in the air,” but luckily each of the 51 victims were rescued which he explained was “hugely rewarding.”

Now 80 years old, nothing is going to stop Peter. He says surf life saving “… certainly keeps me young, it keeps me fit, it keeps me active, it keeps me alert… I love it and I’ll stay as long as it gives me pleasure.”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:15am:

sounds like covid is here to stay and is going to continue to take out those with poor health

Yes, Covid IS here to stay.

Mainly thanks to our useless governments who eventually gave up trying to contain it and putting the economy ahead of peoples' health and lives.

Plus Covid isn't just killing and disabling the elderly and those in poor health... and you know it.

And even if it was, that STILL doesn't make it OK.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:40am

Carl D wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:15am:

sounds like covid is here to stay and is going to continue to take out those with poor health

how on earth could governments EVER contain it ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:57am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

how on earth could governments EVER contain it ?

Our governments (especially the WA State government) managed to contain Covid for nearly 2 years. And the flu.

Which really wasn't too difficult seeing as Australia is an island and all our government needed to do was stop these viruses coming in from overseas and escaping into the population.

Testing, masks and quarantine made that happen.

But the tourism industry, big business (crying out for more and more overseas workers), universities (crying out for more and more overseas students) and the airlines (especially Qantas and that evil little recently resigned leprechaun who was running it) and others made sure that our governments caved in and allowed Covid to run rampant, first by opening the borders followed by removing all of the protections I've mentioned above which has now caused over 23,000 Australian deaths so far.

“Some people may die, but it will be way smaller than with the flu".

I bet Carla Jayne wishes she'd never said that... but, not to worry... almost everyone has forgotten it by now.

If I ever had to travel to the Eastern States (God forbid) I would rather drive instead of paying Qantas or Virgin to fly me there.

(Why do I have to keep repeating all this over and over?) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 6:31pm

I'm sure this is all just perfectly fine - not.

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 22nd December 2023 - dbRaevn

86 deaths reported this week from the States that are still reporting (nothing from NSW or Queensland again, of course. Imagine how high the death total would be if those 2 States were still providing numbers).

Cases are also going up, even with the pitifully small number of PCR only tests being reported. Hospitalisations are also going up for most States.

Yes, all perfectly normal for this to be happening in the middle of the Australian summer, isn't it?

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 4:58am

Why are SA and Tasmania so high?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by A.I. on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 5:14am

Covid will get Monk.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 11:34am

and yet we're not in lockdown anymore even if we had the level of deaths we have now in 2020 we would be. why?

almost like the whole thing was driven by novelty and overreaction or something :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:28pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 11:34am:

1. The economy.

2. The 'cookers' who will undoubtedly go on a nationwide rampage if the government dare mention the word "lockdown". Or "masks".

The protests in Victoria during their lockdowns and mask mandates were proof of that.

I'm still not sure which one the government is more afraid of - big business (the economy) or the 'ccokers'?

Probably an equal amount of both.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:31pm

The numbers here are different:

https://covidlive.com.au/

56 deaths this week for all of Australia.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 2:03pm

Covid Live isn't very reliable anymore, Bobby.

Hasn't been for a while now since our governments starting making Covid numbers difficult to find, or they've stopped reporting them altogether. Or maybe once a month.

While I'm here - this is a perfect example of the stupidity we have to deal with these days:

Mystery illness surging through Britain after Christmas parties as Covid cases skyrocket

Yeah, it's a real "mystery", isn't it? ::)

ABC again... Anything But Covid.

https://nitter.net/PrognosticChats/status/1738218044852236300#m

Quote:

Mystery. Solved by the end of the sentence.

Yep.

And i can almost guarantee the majority of the population wouldn't be able to solve the "mystery" after reading that. Same goes for here in Australia.

Which is just what our pollies and business want.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 2:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:31pm:

The numbers here are different:

https://covidlive.com.au/

56 deaths this week for all of Australia.

Total Confirmed Deaths, Bobby.

There are many, many more but they aren't confirmed/reported any more.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 29^th, 2023 at 11:15pm

Wow, what's happening in Victoria?

Bobby, you live in Victoria, don't you?

53 deaths reported for Victoria this week, nothing from the other States or Territories (except Tasmania which claims to have 0 deaths this week).

Victoria has been having about 50 Covid deaths a week now for at least the past month or two. Wouldn't be surprised if New South Wales, Queensland and South Australia had similar numbers but their numbers are now being 'hidden'.

Western Australia also probably added a few more deaths this week but they're all undoubtedly on an extended Christmas/New Year holiday at the WA Department of "Health".

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 29th December 2023 - dbRaevn

Quote:

So far there has been no state data released for WA or ACT (and NSW, QLD and NT do not normally report state data).

SA released state data but it did not contain hospitalised or ICU numbers.

Quote:

Many states had very limited case reporting; nothing should be read into case trends this week.

VIC: Missing 6 days of data
WA: Missing weekly data
ACT: Missing ~5 days of data
NT: Missing 4 days of data

The states that did report were further impacted by reduced testing.

It's a wonder we get any data at all nowadays.

Nothing about the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in Aged Care again this week which would no doubt make part time Federal Minister for Aged Care (and full time Minister for Sport) Anika Wells happy (even though the deaths are continuing of course).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2024 at 9:24am

In case anyone missed it (as I'm sure the majority of Australians have).

Another 23 deaths in Aged Care reported last week.

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1743779848341074272#m

More savings on pensions and health costs by the government. They must be so proud of themselves... they'll balance that budget eventually no matter how many deaths it takes.

All while maintaining their total silence regarding everything Covid related (no doubt due to legal advice).

Disgraceful.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 8^th, 2024 at 11:47am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2024 at 9:24am:

All the data is freely available

https://www.health.gov.au/topics/covid-19/reporting

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 9^th, 2024 at 8:16am

Thanks Sprint.

But most of the information in that link is a month or more out of date.

With JN.1 ripping through the population it will be interesting to see what the latest numbers are - assuming we ever get to see them of course.

As for the links to the individual States at the bottom of the link they're even more out of date or irrelevant, especially WA where their last media release (on December 20th) is about "being food safe this summer." ::)

Nothing whatsoever about Covid.

If you follow the ACT link you'll find this: Changes to ACT Government COVID-19 testing and reporting activities

Quote:

Like other jurisdictions, the ACT continues to transition the management of COVID-19 to be consistent with other notifiable diseases such as influenza.

Yes, of course. Just like the rest of the States have done. Except that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is nothing like influenza, never has been and probably never will be. And they all know it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 9^th, 2024 at 10:24am

Carl D wrote on Jan 9^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

Like other jurisdictions, the ACT continues to transition the management of COVID-19 to be consistent with other notifiable diseases such as influenza.

Yes, of course. Just like the rest of the States have done. Except that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is nothing like influenza, never has been and probably never will be. And they all know it.

thnaks, the worst of covid os over, more frequent updates are considered not necessary.

Any idea when the new vaccination is available, I'll get this one.
And my tetanus/whooping cough

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 8:32am

New covid strain plus flu and RSV.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-to-know-about-the-new-covid-variant-jn-1/

Seems repeated infections cause more and more harm to the body.

Mask up in crowded situations.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 10:22am

Thanks JM. Good advice.

And, for all those (including a few here) who believe SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is "just a normal cold or flu" now then perhaps they could explain this?

First combination COVID-19 and influenza self-tests approved for Australia

7 September 2022

Quote:

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has approved the first two nasal combination self-tests (for use at home) that detect both COVID-19 and influenza viral infections in humans:

*TouchBio SARS-CoV-2 & FLU A/B Antigen Combo Test (Nasal)
*Fanttest COVID-19 / Influenza A&B Antigen Test Kit.

Combination self-tests are like other COVID-19 rapid antigen tests (RATs) but feature an additional line on the test cassette that indicates the presence of influenza A and B. For many consumers, distinguishing between COVID-19 and influenza is important in managing their infections.

If Covid and the flu are supposed to be the same now why is there an individual test for each?

Reminds me of that "notcovid nastiflu" that was running rampant in the UK just recently - it didn't show up on any of the regular flu tests but oddly enough it showed up on Covid tests. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 5:57pm

Latest data from Victoria...

An average of 377 people were in hospital with COVID
each day in the week to January 2, compared to 307 the
week before. The current average is the highest in recent
months but remains below the peak in May/June.

The seven-day average of ICU patients also increased
from 19 to 23.

The NSW chief health officer says the JN.1 variant is partially
to blame for the state's "highest level of COVID in a year",
while Victoria's health department says the variant has
contributed to an "increase in community transmissions
along with hospitalisations of COVID cases".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:02pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 5:57pm:

I'm not scared of Covid anymore -

I've had it twice and was only a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Still - it seems to be lethal to those in aged care homes.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:02pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 5:57pm:

I'm not scared of Covid anymore -

I've had it twice and was only a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Still - it seems to be lethal to those in aged care homes.

an ingrown toenail can be lethal to those in a nursing home

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

an ingrown toenail can be lethal to those in a nursing home

They die from minor falls - they are so fragile - poor buggers.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

an ingrown toenail can be lethal to those in a nursing home

They die from minor falls - they are so fragile - poor buggers.

thats why they are in nursing homes
gods waiting room
awaiting pneumonia
the old mans friend

i dont understand anyone who would want to hang out and linger in a nursing home
it sounds like hell

we would never allow animals to be treated that way
if i allowed an old horse with dementia that had lost control of its bodily functions and lay in its own pee to continue to suffer, i would be charged with cruelty (and rightly so)

voluntary assisted dying is going to become massive

even leftie hero trudeau is pushing it

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 10^th, 2024 at 6:44pm

When Canadian campaigners achieved their goal of legalising euthanasia for the terminally ill, did anyone think they would stop there? Today, six years after legalisation, pro-euthanasia activists continue to lobby for ever wider access to the ‘right to die’. And they are winning.

On 17 March 2023, Canadian law will change to make people whose sole underlying medical condition is mental illness eligible for what Canada refers to as ‘medical assistance in dying’ (MAID). MAID covers both euthanasia and assisted suicide, although the vast majority of cases in Canada are euthanasia, which means that a doctor actively ends a person’s life, rather than giving that person the means to do so him or herself.

This will be the second expansion of euthanasia since it was legalised in 2016. In March 2021, Canada made a new category of patients eligible for MAID. Before then, only those whose death is ‘reasonably foreseeable’ were eligible. ‘Track Two’, however, is available to those with a ‘serious or incurable condition’ for whom death is likely but not imminent.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 12^th, 2024 at 11:49pm

And the Covid carnage continues while our pollies and the majority of the population keep their heads in the sand (or more likely up their @sses).

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 12th January 2024 - dbRaevn

41 deaths from the 4 States that have reported, 26 of those deaths were from Victoria.

Aged care deaths continue unabated (another 32 this week) with a huge increase in outbreaks and cases.

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 11 January 2024 - Denis - The COVID info guy

Quote:

🔹Active cases: 3,195 (+597)
🔹Active outbreaks: 459 (+55)
🔹Residents: 2,135 (+351)
🔹Staff: 1,060 (+246)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 55 (+32)

Quote:

🔸6,181 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸55 reported deaths in 2024

Disgraceful stuff.

And finally...

https://nitter.net/Cheshire_Kat11/status/1745688688699580878#m

Quote:

CheshireKat 🦘🐨 😷
@Cheshire_Kat11
7h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
The Aged Care Covid carnage continues..... unabated & ignored by @AlboMP @AnikaWells @Mark_Butler_MP

Condolences to the families & loved ones of the 32 precious elders whose lives have been prematurely & unnecessarily ended. 💔

#Covid19Aus #SocialMurder
#ALPPublicHealthFailure

Yes and Yes.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2024 at 11:35pm

And the Covid carnage continues....

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 19th January 2024 - dbRaevn

69 Covid deaths reported last week from those States and Territories still providing numbers (SA is only providing (reported) weekly case numbers from now on - they're not even reporting hospitalisation numbers anymore).

54 deaths reported for Victoria. :o
11 deaths for WA.
3 deaths for the ACT.
1 death for Tasmania.

Cases appear to be dropping (apart from the ACT), probably due to further lack of testing, not actual case numbers dropping, of course.

The disgrace of aged care Covid cases and deaths continues with another 38 deaths added last week.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1748212175196594386#m

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 18 January 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,192 (+61)
🔹Active outbreaks: 419 (-16)
🔹Residents: 2,133 (+16)
🔹Staff: 1,059 (+45)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 93 (+38)

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1748212177385947582#m

Quote:

🔸6,219 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸93 reported deaths in 2024

93 aged care deaths in the first 20 days of 2024.

I don't know why Denis 'tags' Anthony Albanese and Anika Wells with these numbers every week because it's obvious neither of them gives a s*it... same as nearly every other pollie in Australia.

I've seen a few people on Twitter/X lately saying they normally wouldn't wish harm upon anyone, even politicians, but it's getting to the stage where they wouldn't be upset if Karma catches up with some of these pollies very soon... and I'm inclined to agree.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 25^th, 2024 at 10:52am

Hopefully it won't be long before we see this happening in Australia:

Class-action lawsuit approved over COVID-19 outbreaks in Quebec long-term care

Quote:

A judge has approved a class-action lawsuit that accuses Quebec's health network of failing to protect long-term care centres during the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic and causing avoidable suffering and death to thousands of residents.

And... in Scotland...

Long Covid: NHS legal action launched by family of girl

Quote:

The mother of an 11-year-old Aberdeenshire girl with long Covid has launched a legal action against their health board, in what lawyers claim is the first case of its kind in Scotland.

Helen Goss, from Westhill, is seeking damages from NHS Grampian on behalf of her daughter, Anna Hendy.

The action claims the health board is responsible for "multiple failings" in Anna's treatment and care.

Watch out Australia... you're next.

And about time too.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 9:11am

We were shown fake videos using crisis actors:

https://www.brighteon.com/33bf1d9d-be3a-4d92-9014-3f22d35575d1

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm

There will be a second wave of deaths—seems multiple infections of covid19 leads to damage to many organs incl the brain.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:22pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

There will be a second wave of deaths—seems multiple infections of covid19 leads to damage to many organs incl the brain.

this is possibly true but lets not foget that covid kills those with co'morbidities.

the fat, the diabetic, the unfit,

so if you dont want to die prematurely, work on your fitness and nutrition.

you cant escape catching covid forever.

it will infect you eventually.

personal responsibility to make yourself as healthy as possible is your best bet

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

There will be a second wave of deaths—seems multiple infections of covid19 leads to damage to many organs incl the brain.

I've already had Covid twice but it only made me a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Nowhere near as bad as the flu -
once I was crook for 6 weeks from the flu
back in the 1990s.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

There will be a second wave of deaths—seems multiple infections of covid19 leads to damage to many organs incl the brain.

I've already had Covid twice but it only made me a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Nowhere near as bad as the flu -
once I was crook for 6 weeks from the flu
back in the 1990s.

covid is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

therefore, control what you can

get fit !!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 5:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

COVID is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

Links to evidence supporting this claim please.
It contradicts all accredited medical reports.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 6:34pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

COVID is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

Links to evidence supporting this claim please.
It contradicts all accredited medical reports.

if you get vaccinated for tetanus, diphtheria, hep b, measles, mumps, german measles then you never (or extremely rarely) get that disease.

are you saying that is the case for covid ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 8:44am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:25pm:

I've already had Covid twice but it only made me a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Nowhere near as bad as the flu -
once I was crook for 6 weeks from the flu
back in the 1990s.

covid is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

therefore, control what you can

get fit !!!!!!!!!

My opinion is that the first strain of Covid was an escaped bio weapon from Wuhan -
that's why it killed 100s of young, healthy, doctors and nurses in Italy
when it first struck.

However - something about it made it almost impossible for it
to retain its original DNA & RNA structure and coding.
It mutated within a few weeks and quickly became less harmful.

What happened in Italy set the whole world on a course of disaster
as we thought we were facing something as bad as the black plague.

The Black Death was a bubonic plague pandemic occurring in Europe from 1346 to 1353.
One of the most fatal pandemics in human history,
as many as 50 million people perished,
perhaps 50% of Europe’s 14th century population.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Yadda on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:09am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

There will be a second wave of deaths—seems multiple infections of covid19 leads to damage to many organs incl the brain.

I've already had Covid twice but it only made me a bit ill for 2 days each time.

Nowhere near as bad as the flu -
once I was crook for 6 weeks from the flu
back in the 1990s.

covid is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

therefore, control what you can

get fit !!!!!!!!!

'get fit !!!!!!!!!'

aquascoot,

IMO, better advice would be, .....get healthy.

How ?

As much as you can, try avoid eating processed foods.

And try to get ~30 minutes of aerobic exercise every day. [....walking, cycling, gardening]

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:17am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

get fit !!!!!!!!!

Tell that to the families of the over 6,000 Australian aged care residents who have been killed by Covid since the start of the pandemic (another 23 deaths added last week by the way in case you missed it... and I'm sure you did).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 10:22am

Oh, and I'm sure nearly everyone missed this too (due to governments sweeping Covid death numbers under the rug these days).

Another 51 deaths reported last week ... from just 2 States... 16 of those deaths in WA.

Edit: 35 deaths were added for South Australia last week which isn't shown on the graph with SA's now monthly reporting of death numbers... that brings last week's death total to 86 from 3 States.

(I have to do a screenshot because Nitter (a Twitter/X 'frontend') has been playing up the past few days... works one minute and not the next... I suspect Space Karen (Elon Musk) is ramping up his efforts to stop anyone without an X account viewing posts).

coviddata.jpg (73 KB | 7 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 6:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

COVID is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

Links to evidence supporting this claim please.
It contradicts all accredited medical reports.

if you get vaccinated for tetanus, diphtheria, hep b, measles, mumps, German measles then you never (or extremely rarely) get that disease.

Are you saying that is the case for COVID...

Put simply; yes.

What I am asking for is a referencer supporting your claim
that a COVID vaccination does not prevent one getting
infected with the virus. The Mayo Clinic says the COVID
vaccines currently being used do not use the live virus that
causes COVID. Because of this, the vaccines cannot
cause you to become infected with COVID.

(BTW, tetanus and diphtheria are not viruses.)

And viruses and bacteria are totally different things anyway.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 7:29pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 6:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

COVID is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

Links to evidence supporting this claim please.
It contradicts all accredited medical reports.

if you get vaccinated for tetanus, diphtheria, hep b, measles, mumps, German measles then you never (or extremely rarely) get that disease.

Are you saying that is the case for COVID...

i'm not talking about getting covid FROM the vaccine
i'm talking about the fact that you will get it after the vaccine because, unlike the other, very worthwhile vaccines, the covid vaccine does not stop you getting infected

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28^th, 2024 at 9:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 26^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

COVID is obviously
1 super infectious
2 super mutable
3 not being stopped by jabs

Links to evidence supporting this claim please.
It contradicts all accredited medical reports.

if you get vaccinated for tetanus, diphtheria, hep b, measles, mumps, german measles then you never (or extremely rarely) get that disease.

Can you catch measles if you've been vaccinated against measles?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 5:07am

glad you asked

Could I still get measles if I am fully vaccinated? Very few people—about three out of 100—who get two doses of measles vaccine will still get measles if exposed to the virus. Experts aren't sure why. It could be that their immune systems didn't respond as well as they should have to the vaccine.

is the covid vaccine 97 % effective for all people who have had 2 doses

please stick to your area of expertise, fantasising about trumps genitals ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JaSin of Peanut Butter on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 5:11am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 5:07am:

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 5:48am

Conflicting results for death due to Covid:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Jan 26th 2024.

Vic 35
SA 34

Total 69

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 9:59am

Bobby... again... Covid Live hasn't been reliable for some time now.

I don't know if it's because the owner of the site can't get access to the increasingly (deliberately) hard to find Covid data or they just don't care anymore?

dbRaevn on Twitter is the most reliable source of information lately - he searches and finds the data on the various Federal and State Health Department websites but thanks to Space Karen's (Elon Musk's) ramping up of efforts to stop anyone without a Twitter/X account from viewing posts and threads it's also getting increasingly difficult to get the Covid information from him (dbRaevn) unless you have a Twitter/X account and I, for one, am not going to sign up for an account.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 11:49am

carl

i have to agree with you

we have gone from state permiers spending the entirety of their midday 1 hr press conferences doing nothing but covid stats , to then not even wanting to say the word.

we had a tiny outbreak of measles (2 cases) and the nightly news ran it but not a mention of covid.

something very very fishy is going on.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 11:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29^th, 2024 at 11:49am:

Yes indeed.

As I've said a few times - in my opinion the total 'radio silence' from our pollies about Covid nowadays is probably due to the fact that for them to at least acknowledge the ongoing death toll (not to mention health issues like Long Covid) would be an admission on their part that their "vaccines only and let it rip" approach has failed.

And they cannot honestly say that they didn't know this would happen after they (presumably) watched and saw the same approach fail in places like the US and the UK before they tried it here in Australia.

And, as I've said before - I'm also sure the pollies have had legal advice from someone like the Solicitor General to say nothing about Covid anymore in an attempt to avoid liability which would no doubt result in class action lawsuits (which I have no doubt are on the way but the pollies and others responsible for the Covid disaster are hoping to delay them for as long as possible).

But, the walls are slowly starting to close in on them... I only hope I'm still around to see them all eventually get what they deserve.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 30^th, 2024 at 10:41am

It's a bit embarrassing to think that the only thing our useless Federal Health Minister has done is 'rebrand' the Medicare Card.

Oh, and do stupid Elvis impersonations. "Wannabe star". ::)

Commemorating 40 years of Medicare

The Australian Government is releasing a special edition Medicare card in 2024 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of Australia’s world class universal health insurance scheme.

Let's see what a few people have to say about that, shall we?

https://twstalker.com/AlanBixter/status/1751891002066087945

Quote:

Jenny Gump @NobodyImpawtant
16 hours ago

“When I was health minister in the middle of a pandemic where over 30,000 Australians have died and the thousands more have long covid, my true accomplishment is I rebranded the Medicare card” @Mark_Butler_MP How embarrassing.

Yes indeed.

Quote:

Alan Baxter ♛ @AlanBixter
2 hours ago

@NobodyImpawtant @Mark_Butler_MP Given that this is the first piece of work he has done since being made Minister of Health, it far worse than embarrassing.

Yes. Yes it is.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 10:59am

Just a quick update... yes, people are still dying and being disabled by Covid in Australia, especially in aged care. Over 100 Covid deaths in aged care in Australia now since the start of this year.

Disgraceful. And not a single word from the pollies, as usual.

Evidence is also starting to emerge of Covid causing damage to unborn babies while they're still in the womb.

I'll update all of this when I get a bit more time (assuming anyone cares, of course). I've been a bit busy this past week and haven't had time to post.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 1:07pm

Carl, please ask FD to make you Mod of this board!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 5:54pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

Carl, please ask FD to make you Mod of this board!

Ahhhh... no.

Meanwhile...

Tell us how you REALLY feel about NSW "Health", Tricia.

(And I'm sure the same applies to the rest of the States and Territories)

Because the above link may not work (you may get a "Instance has been rate limited" error) due to Space Karen's ongoing destruction of Twitter/X by stopping anyone without an account from viewing posts, here's a screenshot:

tricia.jpg (143 KB | 4 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 6:09am

starting to get some traction in the UK

Closed petition Launch a Public Inquiry into excess mortality ...

UK Parliament
https://petition.parliament.uk › petitions
A Public Inquiry must be urgently held to discuss the reasons and potential causes behind the excess death rate in England and Wales since the middle of ...

Debate: Excess Death Trends - 16th Jan 2024

Parallel Parliament
https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk › westminster-hall
16 Jan 2024 — That this House has considered trends in excess deaths. It is always a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Gary. I thank the ...

Trends in Excess Deaths Westminster Hall Debate

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Inquiry into excess deaths in Scotland since the start of ...

Scottish Parliament Website
https://www.parliament.scot › business-items › excess-...
Chamber and committees. COVID-19 Recovery Committee. Inquiry into excess deaths in Scotland since the start of the pandemic.

My intervention in the debate on Excess Deaths - Danny Kruger
dannykruger.org.uk
https://www.dannykruger.org.uk › news › my-interve...
24 Oct 2023 — I was pleased to be able to attend the debate on excess deaths in Parliament on Friday, opened by Andrew Bridgen MP.

Deaths: Younger Age Cohorts - Hansard - UK Parliament

Hansard - UK Parliament
https://hansard.parliament.uk › Lords › debates › Deat...
11 Jan 2024 — Hansard record of the item : 'Deaths: Younger Age Cohorts' on Thursday 11 January 2024.

OSR's review of excess deaths reporting

UK Statistics Authority
https://osr.statisticsauthority.gov.uk › publication › osr...
13 Feb 2023 — The Office for Statistics Regulation (OSR) has undertaken a short review of the reporting of these data. While it is for producers to set out ...

Excess mortality in England and English regions

GOV.UK
https://www.gov.uk › government › statistics › excess-...
Analysis estimating excess mortality during and after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 10:51am

Yes indeed.

Too many patients are catching COVID in Australian hospitals, doctors say. So why are hospitals rolling back precautions?

Quote:

Steve Irons' older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.

But a patient in the room next door to Jim's had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. "After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him," says Steve, who'd flown up from Tasmania. "I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him."

And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. "For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death," Steve says. "It didn't have to happen that way. If they'd had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now."

Quote:

Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they've been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.

Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals' failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is "just a cold".

Quote:

Of course, evidence clearly shows COVID is nothing like a cold, particularly for hospital patients who are at higher risk of severe illness and death. Shocking data released under Freedom of Information laws last year revealed 5,614 people were suspected to have caught COVID in Victorian public hospitals between 2020 and April 2023, with more than one in 10 confirmed or suspected to have died as a result of their infection. In Queensland, similar data shows an average of 13 people caught COVID in hospital every day in the 18 months to June last year, with one patient dying every two days.

Can't wait for the class action lawsuits to start - if they haven't already.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 11:48am

covid is everywhere carl

you can run (or cower) but you cant hide .

well you can if you want to be a hermit i suppose but is that really living?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 12:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 11:48am:

covid is everywhere carl

you can run (or cower) but you cant hide .

well you can if you want to be a hermit i suppose but is that really living?

Indeed.

Doesn't really have anything to do with what I've posted though, does it?

It was about people catching Covid in hospitals and other healthcare settings and many of them dying. 1 in 10 Covid HAI's - (Hospital Acquired Infections) in Victoria resulted in deaths and I suspect the rest of the States are about the same because it seems that doctors, nurses and staff don't want to wear masks and hospitals don't want to pay for them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:26pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 10:51am:

Yes indeed.

Too many patients are catching COVID in Australian hospitals, doctors say. So why are hospitals rolling back precautions?

They're rolling back precautions so that the frail and elderly die quicker by catching COVID.

It may seem cynical, but that's exactly what they're doing.

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems and thus are a burden on the health system.

By allowing them to easily catch COVID (and die quickly) it frees up hospital beds for younger people who have jobs and pay taxes.

It's very sad, but also very true.

The government wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

Not always.

The earlier strains were more lethal to the young - kids were dying from COVID.

That's rare now.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

no lol

they were always waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lethal to old people than young people, unless youre saying that the older strains were a bit more lethal to the young than newer ones are, not saying that the older strains were in absolute terms more deadly to young ppl than older people

death rate always looked about like this, even in april 2020

when you subtract obese people, it gets even less deadly for everyone

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

You're completely missing the point.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that COVID has never killed a child. It has never killed a healthy person. It has never killed anyone under 90 years of age. It has never .... fill in the blanks. You are 100% right, and are the true master of the universe. There, now we can move on.

My main point still stands: the government (system) wants old and sick people - on the pension and sickness benefits - to die.

It benefits them, and thus they encourage it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by JC Denton on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 4:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

if the govt wanted really wanted old ppl to die, then they should have just let covid rip in 2020 rather than do absolutely everything they could to reduce the infection rate

but even then it would have been a crappy plan - bc covid is simply too piss weak to kill that many old people anyway

the reason we don't have any covid protections anymore is bc everyone got bored of the SimCrisis larp and didn't want to play it anymore. if they did and there was still an appetite for covid doomerism in australia and abroad, we would still be locked down. it was a novelty and a bit of a meme, but like all fads and trends it got old after a while.

ofc people are still dying from it, but no one can quantify just how many because no one is checking/testing anymore anyway. it's all obviously enormously hypocritical and illogical but don't tell that to me tell that to the people who desperately demanded lockdowns in 2020-2021 and now pretend like covid doesn't exist at all in 2024

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 5:13pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

Quote:

Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

very true

10/10

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 11:03pm

Here's something else that's very true and scores 10/10.

Tim the ex virologist sums things up pretty well about how screwed up this country is at the moment.

https://nitter.poast.org/LettersfromTim/status/1756609967657029835#m

In case the link doesn't work here's a screenshot:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by I, Robot on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 11:11pm

COUGH ON A CHINESE PERSON - FOR GOOD LUCK & FORTUNE.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by I, Robot on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 11:19pm

...remember, 100 years ago.
That Pandemic was swept under the rug as well.
People, Newspapers, etc - all no longer talked about it.
While millions still died.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 6:55pm

This week's Covid report in Light's "post-pandemic" Australia.

61 deaths from the States that are still reporting, another 34 in Victoria.

Aged care deaths continue unabated - 167 deaths so far in just a month and a half.

Meanwhile, for those who keep telling us that "hitting the gym" and "keeping fit" is the best way to deal with Covid:

Long COVID can destroy your ability to exercise. Now we know why.

As a new study shows, the answer lies in some long COVID sufferers’ muscle damage and their bodies’ ability to make energy.

Quote:

For many people with long COVID, a major symptom is difficulty with exercising, because when these patients push past their limits it can lead to a devastating cycle of fatigue that boosts the risk of worsening their condition.

These issues with exercise, which is known as post-exertional malaise (PEM), are also the defining symptoms of myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS).

Now a new study, published in the journal Nature Communications, provides an explanation for this feeling of exhaustion, suggesting that patients with long COVID experience a range of changes in their body after exercising, including widespread muscle damage, changes in muscle composition, and disrupted energy metabolism.

This study “actually shows the damage” to the body that is being caused by post-exertional malaise, says Lucinda Bateman, a physician at the Bateman Horne Center, who specializes in treating patients with ME/CFS and long COVID. As Bateman notes, this includes showing “the inflammation, the damage, the scarring, the clots,” which are all found in the muscles of long COVID patients. Researchers also found differences in the activity of the mitochondria—the body’s microscopic energy factories—following exercise.

But... but... it's "just a cold" now, right?

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 7:18pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

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Most people who die from COVID now are either very old or have significant health problems that are a burden on the health system.

always were bro

if the govt wanted really wanted old ppl to die, ...

Oh, but they do.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 8:56pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 16^th, 2024 at 6:55pm:

This week's Covid report in Light's "post-pandemic" Australia.

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But... but... it's "just a cold" now, right?

Thanks for the update Carl.

8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2024 at 7:38pm

In case anyone's still interested.

Nobody knows exactly how many Covid deaths (or cases) there are in Australia every week now because the States are no longer reporting them - or they only report them monthly (usually buried away in an obscure corner of their Health Department websites).

But, there were 40 Covid deaths in aged care around Australia last week which is a huge increase over the 10 to 15 weekly deaths since the start of this year.

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1791387575451795555

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40 Australians died in Residential Aged Care in the last 7 days

2,150 residents and

960 staff all infected with COVID

THIS is a National CRISIS

Meanwhile @AlboMP
and @Mark_Butler_MP
are doing NOTHING

Yes, it is a National CRISIS
Yes, Albanese and Butler continue to do NOTHING.

And the useless Federal Minister for Aged Care (and Sport), Anika Wells, also continues to do NOTHING.

But, as long as the economy is 'chugging along' (for the moment) and the mindless masses can enjoy their Netflix, footy and Bali holidays nothing else matters (to them), eh?

"BE COVIDSAFE"? I don't think so, especially not in any Australian Aged Care facility right now.

Oh, and in case anyone hasn't noticed yet - Australia is having another massive Covid surge (thanks to another new variant or variants brought here from overseas) but you won't hear about it from the pollies or the mainstream media of course.

Just in time for winter with it's usual flu and other respiratory illnesses and an uninformed population the majority of whom can't be bothered to take even the slightest precautions to protect themselves and others.

Disgraceful stuff.

Let's see what happens if/when H5N1 "bird flu" mutates into a human to human transmission variant (not far away now I'm guessing) with a 50% fatality rate. Should be interesting to say the least.

I'm also guessing it won't be too easy for the pollies and big business to BS everyone into believing H5N1 is "just a cold" like they've done with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

As I've said before... if we get human to human transmission of H5N1 with a 50% fatality rate the pollies won't need to be too afraid to mandate masks, quarantine, lockdowns and other protections like they are nowadays with Covid and the flu, etc.

The majority will start doing those things without any government mandates once they see people starting to drop like flies which, sadly, will probably be about the only thing that will wake them up.

Also...

https://x.com/pjfred60/status/1791391746674524287

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@AnikaWells
Do you have any words of consolation to those 40 families who have lost a loved one directly from covid this week? I'm pretty sure if a bus load of pensioners died together in a road accident we'd hear something from you or @AlboMP
or @Mark_Butler_MP
Need to do more.

No, of course she doesn't.

And, yes... I'm sure we'd hear from them if it was a busload of pensioners in a road accident. Even if it's for no other reason than another photo op for Albanese (and another distraction from his almost legendary incompetence).

And, yes... they need to do more (which wouldn't be too hard seeing as they're doing NOTHING at the momemt - except perhaps rubbing their hands together with glee thinking about all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 18^th, 2024 at 10:38am

We were told by the pollies that the elderly and other medically vulnerable people would be protected when Australia opened up it's borders and let Covid rip.

They lied.

People can't even get safe access to healthcare anymore because doctors and staff won't even put on a mask "Wahhhh... masks are too uncomfortable". If that's the case then maybe the antimaskers should consider a new career outside of health care - where part of the job should be that they're supposed to be responsible for patients' health and wellbeing.

Don't forget - Federal election next year and it's time to take out the trash... starting with the three pieces of human (and I use the term loosely) garbage that I mentioned in my previous post - Albanese, Butler and Wells.

And Butler.... medically vulnerable people who cannot tolerate the Covid mRNA vaccines are still waiting for Novavax to arrive in Australia and become available. Any chance of that happening in the near future before too many more of them 'drop off the perch'?

Nah, didn't think so (more pension and healthcare costs savings is all he's thinking about these days, same as Albanese and Wells).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 18^th, 2024 at 11:49pm

Speaking of H5N1 "bird flu"...

Raw Milk Sales Skyrocket as Idiots Believe Drinking Bird Flu Will Give Them 'Immunity'

Pasteurization kills H5N1, but raw milk has "high concentrations" of the virus. Please don't drink raw milk.

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Sales of raw milk in the U.S. have risen 21% since bird flu was first confirmed in dairy cattle in late March, according to a report from PBS Newshour, citing new data from research firm NielsenIQ. Why on Earth would people drink raw milk at a time when pasteurization has been shown to kill the virus? Because some people believe intentionally being exposed to H5N1 will give them “immunity” to the disease. Seriously.

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While there have been no known cases of human-to-human transmission of the virus, that has the potential to change if mutations occur. The World Health Organization has globally identified 889 human cases and 463 deaths from H5N1 since 2003, putting the mortality rate at roughly 52%.

We really are the most stupid species on the planet, aren't we?

And the United States seems to have more stupid people than anywhere else in the world.

From 4 years ago...

Coronavirus: Man dies taking fish tank cleaner as virus drug

Coronavirus: Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment

Unbelievable.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2024 at 7:59am

Things like this (and they're extremely common these days) are the reason why we're in the current sh!tshow with Covid and the flu, etc. here in Australia.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1792835057755058232

Dr. Noor Bari.
MBBS BSc Hons Infectious Diseases.

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@NSWCHO

I am in a situation that could only be true as a comedy skit.

It’s autumn going into a nasty winter.

Waves are rising of many viruses.

I’m in a medical centre.

Everyone is coughing and has a runny nose.

No one is in a mask of any sort.

If you don't have an X/Twitter account here's the whole thread.

https://nitter.poast.org/NjbBari3/status/1792835057755058232#m

If that doesn't work then here's the rest of it:

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The doctor is sick and unmasked

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The pathology person is sick and unmasked

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The receptionist is sick and unmasked

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All the patients, the patients parents friends and relatives are sick, and unmasked

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I’m pretty sure that if advice is not achieving the outcome needed, then mandates are required when winter hospital overwhelm looms.

Yes, agreed. But our governments are now too gutless to mandate masks and other Covid/flu/etc. protections. Even in hospitals and other healthcare places.

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Countdown to the article about the person that died in the ED waiting room.

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Tick tock @RyanPark_Keira

He's the NSW Minister for "Health", by the way (Ryan Park MP).

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Yes, there is a point to mask if everyone is sick.

They probably don’t all have the same virus. Turning up with one virus and leaving with three is more likely to result in a trip to ED

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Oh my word.

An entire family of mask wearers have turned up now… and they are in baggy blues… in this environment.

Snowflakes and hot places spring to mind. Poor things.

Another public health promotion failure. Where are the TV ads for respirators? And kid respirators?

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snow ball rather...

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One tiny dot is turning blue with coughing… 👀 a Dad of another kid is talking loudly on the phone about mycoplasma.

Wonder what happens to babies when you expose them in a medical centre to mycoplasma, whooping cough and every other virus that’s here?

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I’m supposed to be in a waiting room. Turns out I’m actually at a horror show

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There is no air cleaning device visible.

I don’t even think I’m gonna get away with being here.

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Oh and after hours spent in the pathogen 🔥 that is this waiting area... turns out they don't have properly trained staff to do the procedures they advertise they do anyway... wonder what on the earth could have cause such a skills shortage right about now? Hmmm?

I noticed the same thing yesterday when I had a blood test at a local pathology place... I was the only person there wearing a mask and while I was in the waiting area a lady came in with a young child who was visibly (and audibly) unwell.

They both (presumably reluctantly) put on masks before they went with the (unmasked) staff member to have the blood test done.

Oh, there was a small air purifier in the waiting area but it wasn't turned on, of course. The same air purifier that was there the last time I had a blood test 6 months ago. It was turned on at the time but there was a big flashing red light on the top of it which I assume indicated the filter needed to be replaced. That probably wasn't done so I'm guessing the thing is now totally clogged up so they just leave it off.

This country is so screwed right now.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm

Carl D wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 7:59am:

If you don't have an X/Twitter account here's the whole thread.

https://nitter.poast.org/NjbBari3/status/1792835057755058232#m

If that doesn't work then here's the rest of it:

[quote]The doctor is sick and unmasked

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The pathology person is sick and unmasked

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The receptionist is sick and unmasked

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All the patients, the patients parents friends and relatives are sick, and unmasked

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I’m pretty sure that if advice is not achieving the outcome needed, then mandates are required when winter hospital overwhelm looms.

Yes, agreed. But our governments are now too gutless to mandate masks and other Covid/flu/etc. protections. Even in hospitals and other healthcare places.

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Countdown to the article about the person that died in the ED waiting room.

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Tick tock @RyanPark_Keira

He's the NSW Minister for "Health", by the way (Ryan Park MP).

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Yes, there is a point to mask if everyone is sick.

They probably don’t all have the same virus. Turning up with one virus and leaving with three is more likely to result in a trip to ED

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snow ball rather...

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I’m supposed to be in a waiting room. Turns out I’m actually at a horror show

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There is no air cleaning device visible.

I don’t even think I’m gonna get away with being here.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 22^nd, 2024 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

I agree.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:34pm

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

Your record of being wrong 100% of the time is still intact.

"Compared with flu, COVID-19 can cause more severe illness in some people. Compared to people with flu, people infected with COVID-19 may take longer to show symptoms and may be contagious for longer periods of time." 20 Mar 2024

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

May 15, 2024:

Patients hospitalized with COVID-19 were more likely to die than those hospitalized with influenza during the fall and winter of 2023-2024, according to an analysis of Veterans Affairs data.

Among over 11,000 patients hospitalized for either illness during this past fall and winter, 5.7% of patients with COVID-19 died within 30 days of admission versus 4.24% of patients with influenza, reported Ziyad Al-Aly, MD, of the VA St. Louis Health Care System, and colleagues.

After adjusting for variables, the risk of death in people hospitalized for COVID-19 was 35% higher (adjusted HR 1.35, 95% CI 1.10-1.66), the authors detailed in a research letter in JAMA

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

these data are corrupted as the drug companies make a fortune off anti covid drugs and nothing off anti influenza drugs.
hence they corrupt the researchers.

who pays the piper calls the tune ::)

ask any none who has had covid recently how it was

"sore throat, sniffles and tired for 48 hrs"

a mild respiratory virus ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:42pm

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

these data are corrupted ...

You have proof of this, or is that just some bullshit you've spun in order to cover your mistake?

I'm more than willing to look at the proof.

Are you willing to provide it?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

Even masks that are rated 95% protection from air antigens as small as 0.3 microns, are not very effective against the SARS-CoV-2 virus(0.1 microns). To be effective against this virus, the ratings would need to be 99.9999% protective. And, the pore size would need to be 3 times smaller.

Even if the masks don't fully shield us, they just might help us from receiving the infective dose. It only takes a few hunred viruses to get through to infect you. I'm sure you are already aware of all the other problems wearing masks(eating, drinking, sleeping, etc).

Remember, the industry most infected by this virus was the medical industry. If their safety protocols weren't working for them, why would we think they would work for us?

But again, we are talking about a FLU-LIKE virus, with a case fatality rate less than that of the measles. Any normal immune system is more than capable of dealing with this virus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

They only thing that we have done by vaccinating and masking over 90% of the population(Australian), is create a population where more masked and vaccinated people are now being infected and dying from this virus. That's it!

It is mindless arrogance and igborance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him. But, if you really want to feel fully protected, buy a completely self-contained Hazmat suit, with an unlimited supply of CO2 scrubbers, and start living at the bottom of your swimming pool. And even this isn't 100% fulllproof.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 22^nd, 2024 at 10:07pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

That's why you need to wear high quality masks and not 'baggy blue' surgical masks (although 'baggy blues' are better than nothing).

And, yes - a 0.1 micron virus can easily pass through a 0.3 micron hole in a mask assuming the virus particle(s) have a direct, unobstructed path through the mask, which they don't.

Multiple layers and fibres, plus the fact that the fibres in high quality masks are also 'electrically charged' make it almost impossible for virus particles to find their way through one of these masks - assuming they're fitted and worn properly.

The Physics of the N95 Face Mask

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The fibers in regular cloth or paper face masks filter out particles by physically blocking them—but the fibers in an N95 mask also use a great physics trick. These fibers are electrically charged.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 23^rd, 2024 at 1:07am

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 3:17pm:

What about the people who ARE wearing masked, and HAVE been vaccinated? Why ARE these people STILL being infected and dying from this flu-virus?

Masks and vaccinations have proven to be quite effective, but not 100% effective.

Moreover, COVID is not the flu.

no , its now milder then the flu which is why everyone except carl is not concerned

Au contraire.

(Almost) everyone is not concerned nowadays because they have been led to believe Covid is now milder than the flu.

Which it isn't, of course.

It started with that doctor in South Africa saying in late 2021 that "Omicron is mild".

Which it wasn't. And still isn't, although I'm pretty sure the original Omicron isn't around anymore - it's been replaced with 'new and improved' vaccine and prior infection temporary immunity variants.

Honestly. I've lost count of how many times I've tried to explain this to you (and others here) in the past.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 23^rd, 2024 at 3:59pm

Carl D wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 10:07pm:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

The fibers in regular cloth or paper face masks filter out particles by physically blocking them—but the fibers in an N95 mask also use a great physics trick. These fibers are electrically charged.

I don't think most folks plan on living their entire life wearing a mask. Any masks designed to fit all, will fit no one perfectly. At some point in time your masks will have to come off(eating, drinking, exercising, etc.). How are you still protected?

I think we've forgotten that we do have a very evolved immune system. It's job is to produce antibodies to protect us from any/all antigens/pathogens. Even from pathogens anywhere in the entire universe. At a 99.9% survival rate(vaccinated or not) it is doing its job well.

All vaccines need a normal functioning immune system to work. But the immune system does NOT need any vaccines to work!

Remember, we are talking about a pathogen smaller than the visable spectrum of light. In other words, if you can shine a light through a mask, then a virus can also pass through.

As I've said before, you would need a mask that is 99.99999% effective against pathogens smaller than 0.2 microns. The best masks(not shields) is only 95% effective against these tiny pathogens. And, 5% of a million pathogens is more than the few hundred needed to infect you.

Carl D wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 1:07am:

Au contraire.

(Almost) everyone is not concerned nowadays because they have been led to believe Covid is now milder than the flu.

Which it isn't, of course.

It started with that doctor in South Africa saying in late 2021 that "Omicron is mild".

Which it wasn't. And still isn't, although I'm pretty sure the original Omicron isn't around anymore - it's been replaced with 'new and improved' vaccine and prior infection temporary immunity variants.

Honestly. I've lost count of how many times I've tried to explain this to you (and others here) in the past.

Is it even possible that you could be wrong? Even a year before vaccines were available, over 95% of covid-19 victims had zero to moderate symptoms and fully recovered. This is still true today, vaccinated or not.

I stated in early 2021 that the virus doesn't care if you're vaccinated or wearing masks. It can still infect you. And, that vaccinating everyone would only increase the number of vaccinated people becoming infected and dying. And, that's exactly what happened!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:12am

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https://x.com/michael_hoerger/status/1737582325779624059

Mike Hoerger, PhD MSCR MBA
@michael_hoerger
Director of the top public U.S. #COVID forecasting dashboard (PMC).

#HealthPsych PhD Program Director, #CovidCancer scientist, over 100 science publications.

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As a clinical health psychologist, I notice that many people are using psychological defense mechanisms to downplay the risk of COVID.

These are my Top 7 examples:

(For those without an X/Twitter account):

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#1 – Denial – Pretending a problem does not exist to provide artificial relief from anxiety.

Examples:

“During COVID” or “During the pandemic” (past tense)

“The pandemic is over”

“Covid is mild”

“It’s gotten milder”

“Covid is now like a cold or the flu”

“Masks don’t work anyway”

“Covid is NOT airborne”

“Pandemic of the unvaccinated”

“Schools are safe”

“Children don’t transmit COVID”

“Covid is mild in young people”

“Summer flu”

“I’m sick but it’s not Covid”

Taking a rapid test only once

Using self-reported case estimates (25x underestimate) rather than wastewater-derived case estimation

Using hospitalization capacity estimates to enact public health precautions (lagging indicator)

Citing mortality estimates rather than excess mortality estimates. Citing excess mortality without adjusting for survivorship bias.

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#2 – Projection – When someone takes what they are feeling and attempts to put it on someone else to artificially reduce their own anxiety.

Examples:

“Stop living in fear.” (the attacker is living in fear)

“You can take your mask off.” (they are insecure about being unmasked themselves)

“When are you going to stop masking?”

“You can’t live in fear forever.”

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#3 – Displacement – When someone takes their pandemic anxiety and redirects their discomfort toward someone or something else.

Examples:

Angry, seemingly inexplicable outbursts by co-workers, strangers, or family

White affluent people caring less about the pandemic after learning that it disproportionately affects lower-socioeconomic status people of color

Scapegoating based on vaccination status, masking behavior, etc.

“Pandemic of the unvaccinated”

Vax and relax

“How many of them were vaccinated?” (troll comment on Covid deaths or long Covid)

Redirecting anxiety about mitigating a highly-contagious airborne virus by encouraging people to do simple ineffective mitigation like handwashing

“You do you” (complainers are the problem, not Covid)

Telling people to get vaccinated or take other precautions against the flu or RSV but not mentioning Covid

Parents artificially reducing their own anxiety by placing children in poorly mitigated environments

Clinicians artificially reducing their own anxiety by placing patients in poorly mitigated environments

Housework to distract from stress

Peer pressure not to mask

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#4 – Compartmentalization – Holding two conflicting ideas or behaviors, such as caution and incaution, rather than dealing with the anxiety evoked by considering the incautious behaviors more deeply (hypocrisy)

Hospitals and clinicians claim to value health/safety but then don’t require universal precautions

Public health officials claim to value evidence but then give non-evidence based advice (handwashing over masking), obscure or use low-value data over high-quality data (self-reported case counts over wastewater), etc.

Getting a flu vaccine but not a Covid vaccine

Interviewing long Covid experts who recommend masking in indoor public spaces but then going to Applebee’s

Masking in one potentially risky setting (grocery store) but not masking in another similar or more-risky setting (classroom)

Infectious disease conference where people are unmasked

Long Covid and other patient-advocacy meetings where only half the people mask

In-person only EDI events

Not testing because it’s just family

Mask breaks

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#5 – Reaction formation – expressing artificial positive feelings when actually experiencing anxiety

“It’s good I got my infection out of the way before the holidays”

“I had Covid but it was mild”

Anything quoted in Dr. Jonathan Howard’s book, “We Want Them Infected: How the Failed Quest for Herd Immunity Led Doctors to Embrace Anti-Vaccine Movement”

Herd immunity (infections help)

Hybrid immunity (infections help)

“It’s okay because I was recently vaccinated”

“Omicron is milder”

“Textbook virus”

“Building immunity"

To be continued...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:14am

Continued...

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#6 – Rationalization – Artificially reducing Covid anxiety through a weak justification.

Examples:

“I didn’t mask but I used nasal spray”

“I don’t need to mask because I was recently vaccinated”

“It finally got me.”

“You’re going to get Covid again and again and again over your life.”

“It’s not Covid because I don’t have a sore throat.”

“It’s not Covid because I took a rapid test 3 days ago.”

“It’s not Covid because I’m vaccinated.”

“Airplanes have excellent ventilation.”

“I’ve had Covid three times. It’s mild.”

“Verily was cheaper.”

“Nobody else is masking.”

“Nobody else is testing.”

“My roommates don’t take any precautions, so there’s no point in me either.”

“I have a large family, so there’s no point in taking precautions.”

Surgical masks (they are actual “procedure masks,” by the way)

Various pseudo-scientific treatments used by the left and right

Handwashing as the primary Covid public health recommendation

Droplet transmission as a thing

Public health guidance that begins with “data shows” (sic)

Risk maps that never turn deep red

5 expired rapid tests

“Masks recommended” instead of universal precautions

“Seasonal”

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#7 – Intellectualization – using extensive cognitive arguments to artificially circumvent Covid anxiety

Examples:

Unending threads to justify indoor dining

Data-rich public health dashboards that use low-quality metrics and/or don’t change public health recommendations as risk increases

The entire justification for “off-ramps”

Oster, Wen, Prasad

Schools denying air cleaners because it “could make children anxious”

Schools not rapid testing this surge because it “could make children anxious”

The mental gymnastics underlying the rationales for who can get vaccinated, how frequently, or with what brand

Service workers told not to mask because it could make clients uncomfortable

“What comorbidities did they have?”

“The vulnerable will fall by the wayside”

Musicians and others holding large indoor events

5-day isolation periods

And, yes.... masks DO work.

Masks and respirators for prevention of respiratory infections: a state of the science review

22 May 2024

Authors: Trisha Greenhalgh https://orcid.org/0000-0003-2369-8088 trish.greenhalgh@phc.ox.ac.uk, C. Raina MacIntyre https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3060-0555, Michael G. Baker https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1865-1536, Shovon Bhattacharjee https://orcid.org/0000-0003-1241-641X, Abrar A. Chughtai https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4203-7891, David Fisman https://orcid.org/0000-0001-5009-6926, Mohana Kunasekaran.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:25am

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.

You seen many cases of Polio lately?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 24^th, 2024 at 12:14pm

Rockhampton had about 300 people gather over at the Showgrounds for the annual Bookfest. People touching DVDs and books. One guy was sniffling away near me, obviously in the early stages of his runny nose. A few people coughed near me. We have the agricultural show in about 3 weeks time. The 300 people in the building at the time might spread the germs among 3 times that many people in town. The Show will have an outbreak of influenza, the common cold and covid, no problem at all. I might even wear my face mask for the first time in a year.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 24^th, 2024 at 1:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:25am:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.

You seen many cases of Polio lately?

no

because polio vaccines actually work ;D ;D ;D

remember

"this all goes away once we get enough jabs in arms" (to qoute dr anastasia, gladys, dan, scomo ) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 24^th, 2024 at 2:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:25am:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.

You seen many cases of Polio lately?

There have been 3 cases of Polio in the US since 2000. Polio still exist in 2 countries(Pakistan and Afghanistan).

Since most people have been vaccinated, we might be infected, but never reach the disease stage. There are also VARIANTS of the Poliovirus. Which accounts for the over 600 cases from around the world.

https://speakingofmedicine.plos.org/2023/03/17/why-is-polio-making-a-comeback-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/#:~:text=Variant%20polioviruses%20are%20now%20the,Congo%2C%20Yemen%2C%20and%20Nigeria.
https://www.who.int/news/item/08-04-2024-statement-following-the-thirty-eighth-meeting-of-the-ihr-emergency-committee-for-polio#:~:text=Sudan%20and%20Sudan.-,Wild%20poliovirus,samples%20to%20date%20in%202024.

Remember viruses are simply dormant without a host. They don't just die out.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 24^th, 2024 at 3:43pm

Carl D wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:14am:

And, yes.... masks DO work.

So does covering your face when you cough and sneeze. So why are the people practicing these safety protocols still being infected? Do you really believe that 26M Australians can keep 2 meters apart ALL THE TIME? Or, that wearing a cloth/paper mask will prevent a virus from infecting you ALL THE TIME? Do you think that being vaccinated will prevent infection? I'm afraid the stats disagree with you.

Do all mask fit perfectly?
Can light pass through your mask?
Do you need to take off your mask to eat, drink, sleep, etc.?
Do you sometimes breathe in air through the sides of your mask?
Do you always practice safe hygiene with your mask?
Are the pore size in mask smaller/larger than the coronavirus?
Can the coronavirus enter the body via the eyes?
Does 95% protection also mean 5% unprotected?

If people want to believe that this flu-like illness is as dangerous as Rabies, that's their business.
If people want to take multiple designer vaccines for the rest of their life, again that's their business.
If people want to ignore the 99% recovery rates, and focus only on the daily numbers of infections and death, that's their business.
If people want to ignore the excluded facts(comorbidities, age, immunocompromised, etc.) and believe only in the manufactured fear/hype, thats their business.
If people want to use government experts as a substitute for common sense, again it is none of my business.

However it becomes my business, when MY liberties/privacy are suspended. And, I am forced/coerced to become part of this mass hysteria. About a disease that is less fatal than the measles. To take an unlimited number of vaccines or lose your job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

Sorry, there are just too many red flags to ignore the obvious.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 24^th, 2024 at 4:30pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

Carl D wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:14am:

And, yes.... masks DO work.

So does covering your face when you cough and sneeze. So why are the people practicing these safety protocols still being infected?

It's not 100% effective 100% of the time - that's why.

However, even 50% effective 50% of the time is better than nothing.

Wouldn't you agree?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 24^th, 2024 at 4:33pm

ShellShilo wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:25am:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.

You seen many cases of Polio lately?

There have been 3 cases of Polio in the US since 2000.

Thank you.

So your answer is a resounding 'no'.

I rest my case.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

aquascoot wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 5:57pm:

Your "mild respiratory virus" has been responsible for another 37 deaths in Australian aged care this week.

And another massive increase in cases since last week.

40 deaths last week. 37 deaths this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1793880309609779565

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 23 May 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,687 (+609)
🔹Active outbreaks: 416 (+47)
🔹Residents: 2,532 (+384)
🔹Staff: 1,155 (+225)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 425 (+37)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1793880311962685662

Quote:

🔸6,551 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸425 reported deaths in 2024

Plus who knows how many more deaths outside of aged care due to our governments no longer reporting those deaths. Or only reporting them monthly (usually in some obscure, hard to find location on their Health Department websites).

Disgraceful stuff.

It's about time we had mandatory (high quality) masks in aged care facilities (also in hospitals and all health care facilities) don't you think?

And... (see attached screenshot)... with 3 elderly Australians dying from Covid every day at the moment... yes, it is sociopathic.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 24^th, 2024 at 11:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 4:33pm:

Thank you.

So your answer is a resounding 'no'.

I rest my case.

Did you look at my references at all? There are over 600 cases in countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan. But I agree that in modern industrialized countries, cases are very rare.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 4:30pm:

It's not 100% effective 100% of the time - that's why.

However, even 50% effective 50% of the time is better than nothing.

Wouldn't you agree?

Yes, I would certainly agree. NOTHING is 100% effective 100% of the time. So, are you saying that wearing a mask is better than nothing? And, that the reason people are still being infected is because masks are NOT 100% effective 100% of the time? The real question is WHY NOT? Just how effective are they? Do you think that our immune system really needs the help of a designer drug to fight this virus?

We were first told that wearing a mask would protect us from this virus. Then we were told that not always. We were told that the new man-made vaccine would protect us from the virus. Then, that the vaccine would just lessen the severity of the illness. We were told that if we were vaccinated we would not die from the virus. Finally, we were told that if we just keep taking boosters shots indefinately, we would be protected for life.

Clearly people only see and believe what they want to see and believe. Even when the stats consistantly showed a 99% recovery/survival rate(vaccinated or not), it was ignored. Only the daily numbers of infected and deaths were sensationalized all over the media. Covid-19 had reached "star status".

Everyone in my family(except me) has had Covid-19. And, not one of them even knew it(testing kit).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2024 at 10:19am

Spot on as always, Henry.

https://x.com/RageSheen/status/1794070008584339737

Quote:

The hilarious perversity of articles trying to figure out how many infections are happening, in a pandemic, with an absent testing regime.

Like a realty show where weather forecasts are made by meteorologists isolated on a desert island.

COVID cases are rising across Australia. Here's what we know about the new variant: FLiRT

Quote:

As the weather gets colder, a family of highly transmissible COVID-19 subvariants has been detected in Australia.

The family, nicknamed FLiRT, is not as playful as it sounds and has been the key contributor to rising case numbers and hospitalisations across the country.

Here's a look at how many case numbers have been reported in Australia and whether this new variant is a cause for concern.

Quote:

Getting an idea of official figures is difficult because fewer people now test and register their cases.

"fewer people" = almost no one. Same as the number of people wearing masks these days.

And also because you can only register PCR tests (no RAT's) for nearly a year now in all States. If you can actually get a PCR test, of course.

I wonder how much longer our useless pollies can keep up the charade that Covid isn't a problem anymore and it's now just like any other respiratory illness? And trying to ignore it?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2024 at 1:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 10:25am:

ShellShilo wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:

It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.

You seen many cases of Polio lately?

https://x.com/RageSheen/status/1794261893965873584

Quote:

In the heady days after WW2, when rebuilding societies rather than accumulating wealth in existing status hierarchies was central to our societies, we took real joy in defeating infectious disease.

Yep.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:38am

carl , you still dont get it

polio was a life changing disease . polio affected out most valuable people, our children

of course we should fight it

covid changes your life in that you might have to buy a box of tissues

if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly

we used to call respiratory infections "the old mans friend"

when did we develop such incredible attachment to am almost life that is decaying and miserable

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:42am

you can fight mother nature and you will lose but only 100 % of the time

The term “old man’s friend” is often used when referring to pneumonia. The term is attributed to William Osler, who in the first edition of his book The Principles and Practice of Medicine (1892) wrote:

In children and in healthy adults the outlook is good. In the debilitated, in drunkards and in the aged the chances are against recovery. So fatal is it in the latter class [i.e. the elderly] that it has been termed the natural end of the old man

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:44am

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:38am:

carl , you still dont get it

With steadily mounting evidence that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) can cause long term damage to multiple organs - brain, heart, lungs, etc. and even death in children and young adults, especially after multiple infections it would appear you are the one who still doesn't "get it".

Here's just one example of what "Long Covid" is doing to the world's population. From the UK:

Long Covid rates hit TWO MILLION as Tories ramp up the war on disabled and chronically ill people

Quote:

New government statistics have confirmed what millions of people already knew. Specifically, this was that cases of long Covid across the UK are rampant and ever on the rise – now up to two million people. Of course, for people living the daily realities of this devastating chronic illness especially, the news didn’t come as a surprise.

You need to stop listening to people like this incompetent buffoon:

CHO defends long-Covid stance, says virus becoming ‘unexceptional’

Quote:

Queensland’s CHO has doubled down on calls to scrap the term “long Covid,” saying the scientific community was “hotly debating” whether Covid continues to be classed as an exceptional virus.

(The rest is paywalled as usual for The Courier Mail but you get the idea).

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:38am:

if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly

I have admitted nothing of the sort. And you know it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on May 26^th, 2024 at 12:51pm

Last night, I sat in the car after work. I used my phone for 10 minutes to surf the internet. Then I fell asleep. The next thing I know, it was 11pm. I had been asleep for an hour in my car. I woke up sufficiently to drive home. Once I pulled in to the driveway, I shut off the engine and then fell asleep in my driver's seat again. I woke up 2 hours later at 1 am. I went upstairs and got in to bed. I fell asleep at 1:30am. Woke up at 8 in the morning.

Those people who have suffered covid, have they ever had the symptoms of the sudden need to fall asleep during their illness? I don't seem to have this problem when I have the common cold.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2024 at 1:21pm

Carl D wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:44am:

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:38am:

carl , you still dont get it

You need to stop listening to people like this incompetent buffoon:

CHO defends long-Covid stance, says virus becoming ‘unexceptional’

[quote]Queensland’s CHO has doubled down on calls to scrap the term “long Covid,” saying the scientific community was “hotly debating” whether Covid continues to be classed as an exceptional virus.

(The rest is paywalled as usual for The Courier Mail but you get the idea).

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:38am:

if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly

I have admitted nothing of the sort. And you know it.
[/quote]

you certainly HAVE admitted "the above"

all you do is quote death statistics for nursing homes. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

gods waiting room

time to lose the death anxiety and embrace your and my destiny

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2024 at 11:30pm

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 1:21pm:

all you do is quote death statistics for nursing homes. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Yes.

And do you know why?

Because they are the only Covid death statistics our governments are releasing weekly these days. South Australia reports all other Covid deaths monthly (for now) and I don't know if the other States and Territories are reporting them at all anymore. Doesn't look like it.

Aged care deaths are reported weekly for the time being, at least. As these deaths tragically increase I'm almost certain these aged care deaths will not be reported for much longer. But the deaths will continue... including all of the deaths that are still happening weekly outside of aged care but are no longer being reported.

Even Covid deaths in hospitals are not being recorded anymore. Here's the latest in this dystopian Covid nightmare we're now living in:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1794502720482889929

Quote:

South Australia: "Patients who went to hospital for one thing, then died of COVID will never be known according to SA Health as records were never kept"

The only State that was keeping records of Covid deaths in hospitals (or reporting them at least) was Victoria where there was a 10% fatality rate - 10% of people who caught Covid in Victoria's hospitals died but I'm betting they've now stopped keeping records as well.

Hopefully it still won't be enough to stop the lawsuits from the families of those who died - which I'm sure are on the way.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:18am

dystopian covid nightmare ;D ;D ;D ;D

thats YOUR nightmare carl and totally of your own creation.

if you think about covid 24/7 you become covid

if you think about trumps sex life 24/7 you become obsessed

if you think about anything over and over, you deepen the grooves in your mind, like a cart going over a muddy road again and again and again

want to stop covid affecting you?

stop thinking about it

this is the EXACT reason the wise medical authorities sanctioned DR BERGER (your hero)

because his obsession is having a negative effect on people, as is yours

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2024 at 7:10am

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

dystopian covid nightmare ;D ;D ;D ;D

thats YOUR nightmare carl and totally of your own creation.

Saw a comment on X (formerly Twitter) the other day from someone who's medical issues meant that if they caught Covid they could possibly die.

Oh, and there's many, many people like that, by the way. The same people (like the elderly) who were told by our lying, spineless governments that they would be protected when the borders opened and Covid was unleashed on the population.

Anyway, this medically vulnerable person said on X that it might have been better if Covid had turned out to be a zombie apocalypse because then it would have been easier to see and avoid the infected when out shopping, etc.

Because - at the moment - for every maskless person with a hacking cough, sneezing, runny nose, etc. walking around in crowded public places (and there's LOTS of them) there's probably one or two more who are infected but not yet showing symptoms. But they're still potentially infecting others.

Not just with Covid, but with the flu, RSV and whatever else is 'doing the rounds' right now.

And that could only be described as a massive (deliberate) public health messaging failure by our governments.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:17pm

Carl D wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 7:10am:

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

dystopian covid nightmare ;D ;D ;D ;D

thats YOUR nightmare carl and totally of your own creation.

saw a comment on X (formerly twitter) recently from someone who was nearly killed in a car accident.
oh and there are many other people who have been injured in car accidents
anyway , this person said it might have been better if we set the speed limit at 20 kph

because at the moment, for every driver out there driving around, braking and changing lanes and accelerating, theres a risk they are going to hit others

and the fact the authorities wont reduce the speed limit to 20 kph could only be described as a massive (deliberate) road transport messaging failure by our governments :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2024 at 7:50pm

OK... moving on after reading aquascoot's stupid and pointless post.

https://x.com/CrabbBrendan/status/1794925855342469260

Quote:

No accurate figures so it's up to the brilliance of @Mike_Honey_
@dbRaevn
& a few others to estimate what's going on. This suggests that over 1 million people have C0VID in Oz right now, & that almost half of the entire population has had C0VID in the last 6 months. These numbers are extraordinary.

Yes. Yes they are.

And the number of upcoming deaths and Long Covid cases will also be extraordinary... if we ever get to see these numbers.

Also...

https://x.com/briankirsty/status/1794716388495593528

This is also extraordinary (see attached image).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 27^th, 2024 at 10:52pm

It doesn't matter if every man, woman, or child is infected with Covid-19. Or, even if they are re-infected every year for the rest of their lives. All that matters is it's virulence and case fatality rates. Vaccinated or not.

I just don't understand your obsesion with this disease. This illness has been doing the same thing for over 4 years. No matter WHAT variant form it takes from its standard. Still, over 98% of its victims recover. And, since 80% of covid-19 suffer from zero to moderate symptoms, it's not a very virulent pathogen at all. Did you know that around 80% of the elderly DO RECOVER??

Does your daily death list indicate if those in palliative care laying immobile in nursing and respite center, have DNR orders? What are the ages listed on your daily death list? How many on your list had multiple comorbidities and other chronic illnesses listed on their death certificate? How many died FROM the virus, and how many died WITH the virus? The death certificate in some states make no distinctions.

I think for people living under these conditions in nursing/respite centers under palliative care, their death is more a mercy than a tragedy.

Maybe you could list also the number of recoveries. Just to avoid claims of bias, and just fear-mongering.

Maybe you can credit the government for providing the hospitals with the antiviral resources to treat people.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2024 at 8:53am

ShellShilo wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 10:52pm:

Almost everything you've posted there has been addressed by me (and others) many, many times over the past year or so and I am not going to waste my time repeating them again.

Oh, except (and this has been explained here many, many times):

Quote:

How many died FROM the virus, and how many died WITH the virus?

COVID-19 Mortality in Australia: Deaths registered until 31 January 2024 (this is the most recent report I can find).

Quote:

21,827 of the 687,639 death registrations received by the ABS between March 2020 and January 2024 were of people who died from or with COVID-19.
The underlying cause of death for 17,276 of these people was COVID-19.
There were a further 4,551 people who died of other causes (e.g. cancer) but COVID-19 contributed to their death.

And, again, the reason why I am "obsessed" with this virus is because it has killed and disabled millions worldwide - and continues to do so.

And I'm sure the majority of the population would also be "obsessed" with this virus if they knew about the steadily mounting evidence of the damage that it can do to multiple body organs but they don't. And no one, especially our governments, is telling them.

Especially after multiple infections and even if you're up to date with vaccinations - and the majority of people are not. Another (deliberate) government messaging failure (saves them money on vaccines).

All of this is due to deliberate government silence nowadays. They know they stuffed up with their "vaccines only and let it rip" approach and they're now too gutless to admit they were wrong and it has cost many, many lives (approximately 25,000 so far in Australia alone).

As I've also said before - I'm sure governments have also been given legal advice to stay silent about Covid now in an attempt to avoid liabilty for the deaths and long Covid cases. Gutless wonders, the lot of them.

And, this "disease" and "illness" is still classified as a Level 3 Biohazard which is one level above the flu (2) and one level below things like Ebola (4 - the highest level) despite recent attempts by that useless and quite possibly corrupt body, the World "Health" Organization to have SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) 'reclassified' as Level 2, and I'll bet hardly anyone knows about that as well.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:32am

carl,

get over yourself

admit it is a mild respiratory virus and stop calling everyone else out for being part of some grand conspiracy ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2024 at 12:38pm

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

carl,

get over yourself

admit it is a mild respiratory virus and stop calling everyone else out for being part of some grand conspiracy ::)

Got anything useful to add to the thread apart from your usual repetitive trolling?

Perhaps you could actually do something useful for once and shoot off a quick email to Mark Butler and ask him what happened to the Novavax Covid vaccine the many people who cannot tolerate mRNA vaccines have been waiting for?

https://x.com/realanitawhite/status/1795252268524302826

Quote:

XBB Novavax application for TGA registration withdrawn by Sponsor.😡😡😡

@Mark_Butler_MP
Australians who cannot get vaccinated because they need this particular vaccine deserve an explanation and REMEDY from YOU.

Call a press conference.

Yes, call a press conference you useless excuse for a Federal Minister for Health and Aged Care.

And...

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1795253224594932064

Quote:

What a disgrace

why have @Novavax
withdrawn their application?

What hurdles did @Mark_Butler_MP
put in the way to prevent this from being registered in Australia?

#ThirdWorldVaccineNation

Yes, Tim. I'm wondering the same thing.

More proof that the government is more than happy to see the elderly and other medically vulnerable people 'bumped off' by Covid to save money on pensions and health care costs. Oh, and vaccine costs as well.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2024 at 1:44pm

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

admit it is a mild respiratory virus and stop calling everyone else out for being part of some grand conspiracy ::)

Might be getting harder to obtain Covid case numbers and deaths in Australia but here's what your "mild respiratory virus" has been doing in the United States in the past 5 months:

https://x.com/BNOFeed/status/1795195453627048409

Quote:

So far this year, nearly 3.3 million COVID cases have been reported in the U.S., causing 283,605 hospitalizations and 29,370 deaths.

Wow, so very, very mild, isn't it?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 28^th, 2024 at 2:12pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 12:38pm:

More proof that the government is more than happy to see the elderly and other medically vulnerable people 'bumped off' by Covid to save money on pensions and health care costs. Oh, and vaccine costs as well.

Yes.

That's exactly what's happening.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:26pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 8:53am:

It sounds like we humans just can't protect/defend ourselves from this raging indiscriminate killing viral behemoth.

I remembered asking you sometime ago a few important questions. You ignored them all and continued ranting that the viral end is nigh. And, that a medically-imposed form of fascism is our only hope.

You clearly are not interested in any actual perspective or objectivity. You are not interested in any unbiased truth. You are a fear-mongerer of half-truths. Hense why a little knowledge can be so dangerous. But let me ask you,

Do you want every man woman and child in Australia to wear masks in public indefinately?

Do you want every man woman and child in Australia to take vaccines and booster shots indefinately?

Do you want every man woman and child in Australia to keep 2 meters apart indefinately?

Do you want our personal liberties/freedoms pre-Civid-19 to be suspended indefinately?

Should we shutdown all sporting venues, schools, parks, beaches, building sites, libraries, museums, and all sporting events indefinately?

Should we bring back all curfews, and limit all interstate and international travel indefinately?

Should every man woman and child have a Covid-19 medical card on their person, and must present it when asked indefinately?

Should Australian businesses require its customers to wear masks, or risk being ejected by cops? Or risk closure orders for non-compliance, indefinately?

Should every Australian be forced/coerced to put anything into his/her body that the government says is for the "greater good", indefinately?

Should we continue to arrest and fine Australians for refusing to wear a mask, or not keeping their distance indefinately?

Should we deputize more thugs to respond to all reported Covid-19 breeches? Arresting/fining people in their own homes, and breaking up meetings and parties indefinately?

If we were talking about N. Korea or China, I wouldn't even bat an eyelid. But all these things happened in Australia. So much so that there were rallies in other countries trying to free us!

This is when enough was enough. We took to the streets to air our grievances, and to take back our liberties and freedoms. We ended this immature knee-jerk reaction, that had less than a buckleys chance of ever working.

So, again what specifically would you have Australians do, to fight this rampant killer virus? What would your plan be? Clearly all the other plans have failed. Do you really think that medical science has no anti-viral treatments for this virus? Most people dying from this virus, were already dying.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:44pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

admit it is a mild respiratory virus and stop calling everyone else out for being part of some grand conspiracy ::)

So far this year, nearly 3.3 million COVID cases have been reported in the U.S., causing 283,605 hospitalizations and 29,370 deaths.

Wow, so very, very mild, isn't it?

You do realize that this also means that more than 99% of those infected did NOT die!

29,370 deaths/3,300,000 infected = 0.0089 x 100% =0.89% or 99.1% survival.

So, yes with a recovery rate this high it is very very mild(3,270,300 survivors). But when you spew out thousands of death, without any context, it gives the impression of massive numbers of deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:09pm

Anyone else care to have a go at this because, quite frankly, I am (once again) sick and tired of going around in circles with the same tired old discussions we've been going through for years.

I'll finish up by saying "you do you" and we'll see how things are going with Covid in a year or so (assuming our cowardly, pathetic governments don't even take the most basic steps to slow down the spread of this virus - and I'm sure they won't).

No one is asking for lockdowns or border closures but things like masks in hospitals, aged care and all other healthcare settings would make a big difference like they did before governments were obviously pressured into removing them - same as they were pressured into removing masks on planes, in airports, public transport and lastly in hospitals and healthcare.

Let's see how many healthy people are left in Australia (and worldwide) in about 5 years time if the current rate of Covid infections and reinfections isn't reduced. The pollies' precious economy will be up the creek without a paddle when that happens.

Assuming "bird flu" doesn't take out half of the population first, of course. And I'm sure our pathetic pollies will be doing their best to try and convince everyone that it's "just a cold"... until it's too late to stop it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 29^th, 2024 at 5:44pm

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:09pm:

totally agree

but the root cause is maccas, crispy creme, kfc and the coca cola corporation.
nothing to do with a mild cold virus ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 29^th, 2024 at 10:49pm

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:09pm:

Man has been on this planet for around 6 million years. Germs and viruses for billions of years. The real threats to our survival is war and overpopulation.

Our immune system is the second most complicated system in the body(second to the brain). Even a half functioning immune system is more than capable of fighting off most known(or unknown) pathogens/antigens.

Now modern man has decided(for profit) that our immune system now needs help for this 7th generation SARS virus. More contagious but less virulent than the orginal.

Man decides that he can't wait the 1-3 days for the immune system to make its own antibodies to fight this virus. Antibodies that aren't fooled by any viral variances.

But man decided to force muscle cells to genetically clone only a part of this virus(spike proteins). Once these antigens were formed in the cell and released into the body, they could prompted a immune response. But these antibodies are specific ONLY to the coded SPIKE PROTEINS. Not all of the markers on the entire virus.

But of course these spike proteins are NOT sentient. They can go anywhere in the body they want, in search of ACE2 receptor sites. That is before they are programed to die(supposedly). They don't care where these sites are(brain, heart, lymph nodes, kidneys, intestines, blood vessels, lungs, stomach, etc.). And, neither does the immune response. This response will also destroy receptor sites(and cells). Destroying these sites, will directly diminish the important regulatory functions of this enzyme(ACE2).

Here are some stats you should really look at.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

As far as panicking for the future, I really wouldn't worry. None of us will be here! As of April 14, 2024 there have been 24,414 total deaths with or from this virus. There have been 1,546 days from the start of this virus until this date. The current population of Australia is 26,676,748 people. Lets assume that all rates stay the same, and the population desn't change,

1,546 days x 26,676,748 people/24,414 deaths = 1,689,287days. Or, 4,628 YEARS(4,901 YEARS GLOBALLY).

I agree that you should always do you. Just as long as I am not forced/coerced to do you!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on May 29^th, 2024 at 11:13pm

The current todal covid deaths in Australia is at 24,000

This means another 10,000 in about the last 12 months this compared to about 400 Flu deaths.

I don't know the probability of another stronger strain emerging.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:26am

Dnarever wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 11:13pm:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

As of April 13th 2024. I can only use the data that I'm given. Although plus or minus 400 death will not make that much of a difference.

All variants of the same strain will be weaker(in some aspect) than the parent strain. We have seen this in all the variants of this virus.

By the end of 2023(30/11/2023), 20,755 Australians died with or from this virus. Not sure where 10K new deaths are coming from?

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-until-30-november-2023.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2024 at 2:14am

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 5:44pm:

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:09pm:

totally agree

but the root cause is maccas, crispy creme, kfc and the coca cola corporation.
nothing to do with a mild cold virus ::) ::)

You keep saying that over and over.

So, I'll ask you now - do you have any proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "mild cold virus"?

And by proof I mean actual scientifically/medically verified proof?

Not this sort of "proof", by the way (we'll have to check up on Gordon in a few months time and see if he still holds that view - especially if he has a few more infections in the meantime).

By the way - "hitting the gym" is probably one of the worst things you can do right after a Covid infection, especially if you already have heart issues (even if you don't know you have them).

When can I return to exercise after COVID? (one of many articles on the subject).

As someone who has been affected by Long Covid said on X (formerly Twitter) the other day - it's about time the burden of proof was shifted to the people who are claiming this virus is now nothing more than "just a cold".

I won't be holding my breath waiting for that proof. Meanwhile, there is more and more proof (and that's real proof) that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is most definitely not "just a cold" and never has been and probably never will.

So, I'll just sit back and wait for you to post a link or links to real proof that this virus is now "just a mild respiratory illness" or "just a cold".

Take as much time as you need, I'll wait. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

go get yourself a dementia screen moron ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 30^th, 2024 at 1:56pm

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

go get yourself a dementia screen moron ;D ;D ;D

I can tell the time. Sadly, you can't.

Maybe you should go to bed at 7pm tonight - seems like you need the extra sleep.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on May 30^th, 2024 at 4:08pm

That Perth time?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:00pm

Hi JM.

Hi Greg.

Yep, I made that post at 12:14am this morning Perth time. I often stay up late these days.

Just popping in to see if aquascoot has found any verifiable proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now a "mild respiratory virus".

I'm guessing this is what he's come up with so far - and I'm sure it's (probably more than) a bit like his mind actually. :)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 30^th, 2024 at 6:18pm

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:00pm:

sure

its mild

if it was not mild , people would be having vaccine 7 by now

a few hypochondriacs probably are ;D ;D

but 99.9 % of australians have stopped getting vaccinated for this "common cold"

this is called the wisdom of the crowd.

stay up til the wee hours of the morning reading dr bergers tweets and living down your rabbit hole of hypochondria

the rest of the population arent going to join you no matter how much you scaremonger :-[ :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 30^th, 2024 at 6:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

He needs to get an early start every day to deal with all the 'shenanigans' going on at his little farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

:)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2024 at 5:32am

3:32am here in Perth.

Just woke up and I've decided to fire up the PC to check and see if aquascoot has found any proof that Covid is now just a "mild respiratory virus".

Nah, didn't think so.

Back to bed... be back later.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on May 31^st, 2024 at 2:42pm

Quote:

COVID-19 mortality

In 2022:
There were 9,859 deaths due to COVID-19 registered in Australia (27.1 deaths per 100,000 people).

For those who died from COVID-19:
Their median age at death was 85.8 years. This is higher than the median age at death for all-cause mortality which was 82.2 years.

Cardiac conditions were the most commonly reported pre-existing conditions and were present in 33.0% of COVID-19 deaths in 2022.

For those who died with COVID-19 as a contributory condition:

The most common underlying cause of death was Dementia, including Alzheimer’s disease (489 deaths).
The median age at death was 83.8 years.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/2022#revisions-to-causes-of-death

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 31^st, 2024 at 3:50pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 5:32am:

He's too upset today.

The orange rapist has been found guilty on all 34 charges in the hush money trial.

It'll take some time for his cult members to get over that.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2024 at 5:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 3:50pm:

He's too upset today.

The orange rapist has been found guilty on all 34 charges in the hush money trial.

It'll take some time for his cult members to get over that.

;D ;D ;D

Oh, and aquascoot... next time you're here (no hurry):

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2024 at 6:02pm

Anyway... while we're waiting here's this week's proof that SARS-CoV-2 still isn't "just a cold".

Another 29 Covid deaths in Australian aged care. Outbreaks and cases are still on the increase.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796435022876168600

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 30 May 2024

🔹Active cases: 4,238 (+606)
🔹Active outbreaks: 469 (+76)
🔹Residents: 2,927 (+430)
🔹Staff: 1,311 (+176)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 454 (+29)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796435025296335111

Quote:

🔸6,580 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸454 reported deaths in 2024

I don't know how many Covid deaths there were outside of aged care due to most State/Territory governments not reporting anymore or just reporting monthly but the ACT had another 4 deaths this week:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796426900178706469

Quote:

ACT weekly COVID update: 24 May to 30 May

🔹PCR cases only: 242 (+52.2%)
🔹Deaths: 4 (+4)
🔹Total deaths: 316 (+4)
🔹Hospital: 67 (+139.2%)
🔹ICU: 0 (+0)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

Also...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796410694403043646

Quote:

"Vic hospitals moved to Stage Two response, allowing them to demand visitors, staff wear masks." By Mandy Squires

Monkeypox and measles outbreaks too. Wow. :o

And...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796365033070567579

Quote:

"South Australia's entire public hospital system is operating under an internal emergency with long patient wait times and delayed elective surgeries."

🔹270 staff currently off sick with COVID

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-30/sa-public-hospitals-in-internal-emergency/103915690

Ignoring Covid and/or pretending that it's now "just a cold" sure is going real well, isn't it?

And, just for aquascoot - from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (I like the reply by Dr. Rebecca Michalak).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on May 31^st, 2024 at 11:05pm

Around 60% of victims of the SARS-CoV-2 virus are asymptomatic during the entire course of the infection. This means they get infected and recover without showing any symptoms at all. 80% of those who are symptomatic report only mild to moderate symptoms. This is true worldwide! Even in people over 60, 33% were asymptomatic.

Most people who succomb to this disease were also fighting other serious chronic illnesses. It is these comorbidities, and the condition of the immune system, that will determine the severity and outcome of this disease. Remember, it would be an evolutionary disadvantage for any virus to kill its host. The longer the host is around, the more hosts the virus can infect.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/14/covid-symptoms-40-coronavirus-cases-asymptomatic-study-finds/6495693001/

In fact, studies have now shown that people who have had the common cold, can be asyptomatic to this virus. This is because exposure to the common cold can produce a variant of the HLA gene(HLA-B15).

"This gene codes for a protein that helps the immune system identify SARS-CoV-2 and other coronaviruses such as the common cold.".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-07-20/asymptomatic-covid-19-linked-to-hla-gene-variant-common-cold/102619476

Many people have the common cold to thank for being asymptomatic to this virus. So, for them the symptoms from this virus is even LESS than the common cold. Remember asymptomatic is NOT the same as presymptomatic.

Every member of my family was infected with this virus(except me). If I hadn't tested them, they would never had known they were even infected. Is this a terrible virulent disease? Is Covid-19 a death sentence for most people? For over 90% of those infected, absolutely not! And, 60% don't even know they have it.

It is none of my business what others choose to do with their own bodies. But there were just too many red flags for me to just jump on board for the common good. Being forced or coerced by the government, is the biggest red flag of them all.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 10:05am

Nice try, Professor Hanmer.

https://x.com/GeoffHanmer/status/1796408562677387760

Quote:

Look, this is simple and I am typing this slowly. @AlboMP
unless your mate Mark does something about reducing COVID transmission in the community, your mate Chalmers is going to have a whopping blowout in his health budget, more people will die and your government will be toast.

(Mark Butler and Jim Chalmers)

Unfortunately, simple and slowly is still too much for these useless pollies to understand.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 10:23am

But, as bad as Covid is right now I have this feeling something a lot worse is coming.

A third U.S. farmworker infected with bird flu is the first to experience respiratory symptoms

Quote:

A third human case of H5 bird flu tied to the ongoing U.S. outbreak in cattle has been detected in a farmworker in Michigan, state health authorities confirmed on Thursday.

The unnamed individual worked on a dairy farm and was in close contact with infected cows, the state health department said in a statement. The farm involved is different from the one where an earlier human case was detected last week.

“With this case, respiratory symptoms occurred after direct exposure to an infected cow,” Natasha Bagdasarian, chief medical executive of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, said in a statement. The individual was not wearing protective equipment, she said.

Quote:

The significance of respiratory symptoms relates to the possibility of onward spread. In people, influenza transmits via the respiratory route. A person with flu virus in their airways could be more likely to spread the virus — if the virus has the capacity to transmit between humans — than a person with an infection in their eye.

And with a maskless, clueless population and zero messaging from governments this isn't going to be a lot of fun - especially if this virus maintains it's current 50% fatality rate.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 3:48pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 10:23am:

But, as bad as Covid is right now I have this feeling something a lot worse is coming.

A third U.S. farmworker infected with bird flu is the first to experience respiratory symptoms

Quote:

[quote]The significance of respiratory symptoms relates to the possibility of onward spread. In people, influenza transmits via the respiratory route. A person with flu virus in their airways could be more likely to spread the virus — if the virus has the capacity to transmit between humans — than a person with an infection in their eye.

And with a maskless, clueless population and zero messaging from governments this isn't going to be a lot of fun - especially if this virus maintains it's current 50% fatality rate.

[/quote]

Are you saying that you know more about this virus than almost the entire population? That we all should go back into medical bondage and global isolation indefinitely? Just because you feel that social repression is the only way to stop this virus from infecting people(it didn't)? And, to protect society AT ANY COST!! You do realize that we can, and do medically treat this virus directly!

Our elderly and infirmed will continue to die from colds, flus, covid-19, and many other chronic illnesses. And, there is not much anyone can do, except to make them more comfortable. If their immune system is compromised, all the vaccines in the world won't help.

It is intellectually dishonest and hypocritical to expect others to answer your questions and defend their position, when you simply ignore/dismiss their questions and concerns. Is your position just too weak to defend?

Even the government realizes that it can't keep manufacturing fear indefinitely. As more and more people keep recovering(vaccinated/unvaccinated) from this virus, they soon realized that all the fear-mongering was nothing but hype.

Maybe you can show me any stats that show the reinfection rate of unvaccinated recovered victims? And, compare this rate to the vaccinated recovered victims. This would certainly help your pro-vaccination case. Instead of using only pathos, try logos!

This government, for a time got away with the same kind of repression that is still used in N. Korea. Fortunately we weren't born under this level of social repression. We ended this nonsense. We decided that our freedoms and liberties were much more important, than any disease milder than the measles.

No matter how many ways you want to spin your narrative, the facts won't change.

60% of those infected will be asymptomatic. And will have NO symptoms during the entire course of the illness.
80% of those infected will have mild to moderate symptoms(visit to your chemist) throughout the course of the illness.
99.9% of those infected will recover, regardless of their vaccination status
Those with multiple chronic morbidities, are immunocomprimised, or are DNR will still have the greatest risk of dying. WITH or FROM this illness!!

Now these ARE the relevant facts that you seem to keep ignoring. I guess posting them would undermine the mania of your fear campaign.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 5:12am

yep.

40,000 doctors in australia and carl has found ONE (dr david berger) who agrees with him.

and this same dr berger has been sanctioned by the medical authorities for scaremongering ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and carl says the ohter 39,999 are wrong ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i think we can say who has become the conspircay theorist

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 8:35am

FAFO.

F Around Find Out.

That's the stage we're at now... with Covid and "Bird Flu".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 8:53am

Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

Quote:

How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?

PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE CATCHING COVID (OR THE FLU OR RSV, ETC.) IN HOSPITALS AND DYING because the doctors and staff don't want to mask and the hospitals don't want to pay for the masks.

And there's been thousands of Covid hospital deaths Australia wide over the past 2 years.

The lawsuits are coming. Of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:55pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 8:53am:

Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

Quote:

How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?

Do you really think that a virus smaller than the wave-length of visible light cares, if its host is in a hospital or not?

Do you think that humans can erect physical barriers to prevent anyone from being infected? That is almost impossible! And certainly impossible to maintain.

Do you think that many doctors and nurses don't wear mask because they know that they don't work? Or, that they're just tired of being abused, for telling people to do something that is useless and unnecessary?

Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.

If you did choose to address the questions posted, instead of playing the death card(out of context), you would clearly see what the overwhelming majority of Australians have seen. WE WERE HAD/CONNED!

But, "Fool me once shame on you, but fool me twice...". We know better now. At least most of us!

People have a right to their own opinions about anything. But when they pick and choose only the facts that support their own confirmation bias, and ignore all other facts, then they're just being intellectually dishonest. Who exactly do you sue, for catching the flu??? Is Covid-19 the only disease under your radar?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 3:11pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.

You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported the highest infection rates?

You science deniers crack me up sometimes.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 3:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.

You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported "WITH" the highest infection rates?

You science deniers crack me up sometimes.

Not sure what you mean here. Was it syntax or semantics? Are you implying/saying that the healthcare industry did NOT have the highest rate of infections. I never mentioned "exposure" rates. I'd assume that would be a given. :) My point was, that this industry was the expert industry on healthcare prevention. Yet this same industry couldn't protect itself from infections.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:27pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 8:53am:

Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

Quote:

How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?

i cant move....

except my fingers to be a 'drama queen"
whats the ambulance for?
if you need an ambulance, how many people go and post about it on Twitter first ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 3:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.

You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported the highest infection rates?

You science deniers crack me up sometimes.

i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack

are doctors trained in science?

is carl ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 5:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:

i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack

are doctors trained in science?

is carl ;D ;D ;D ;D

Are you referring to Dr. David Berger?

If so, can you provide us with a link with the names of the 39,999 people who think he's a quack?

And if you're referring to the ridiculous complaint to the AHPRA 2 years ago about Dr. Berger's social media posts - it was done by ONE anonymous complainer (Dr. Berger said at the time that he was pretty sure he knew who it was but he wouldn't say).

Anyway, if you could just find a (credible) link with those 39,999 names that would be great. If you like you can post it with a (credible) link proving that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus" or "just a cold" when you've also found that. It's only been a couple of days now so there's no rush.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Gordon on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 6:01pm

Covid 2024 equals a sniffle for 3 days. ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 6:42pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 5:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:

i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack

are doctors trained in science?

is carl ;D ;D ;D ;D

hi carl

who runs hospitals?

concretors?
fishermen?
truckies?

no they are run by people called doctors, who have decided that masks are not neccessary

now show us your medical degree or bugger off ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 7:36pm

Let's see...

I'll show you my medical degree when you show me proof of the two things I've asked about in my previous post.

And seeing as I don't have a medical degree you are never going to see it, just like I am never going to see the proof I've been asking for.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 7:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 7:36pm:

why is it a rediculous complaint when it was deemed worthy of taking action against the quack ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:16pm

Sadly, there's even more aged care deaths this week.

Another 49.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1798945547719680243

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 6 June 2024

🔹Active cases: 4,413 (+232)
🔹Active outbreaks: 499 (+32)
🔹Residents: 3,051 (+164)
🔹Staff: 1,362 (+68)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 503 (+49)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1798945550181769571

Quote:

🔸6,629 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸503 reported deaths in 2024

And another large increase in outbreaks and cases.

How much longer can our useless pollies keep their heads ~~in the sand~~ up their @sses and pretend this isn't happening?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:47pm

And...

https://x.com/Mike_Honey_/status/1798546805967446399

Quote:

Australian COVID-19 cases update:

Reported cases continue to rise, now well past the peaks reported in the prior JN.1 wave in January.

The Reff (case momentum) is up from around 1.15 a week ago to 1.21, so the wave is accelerating.

Reported cases only, of course.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 12:44am

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:16pm:

Sadly, there's even more aged care deaths this week.

Another 49.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1798945547719680243

Quote:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1798945550181769571

[quote]🔸6,629 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸503 reported deaths in 2024

And another large increase in outbreaks and cases.

How much longer can our useless pollies keep their heads ~~in the sand~~ up their @sses and pretend this isn't happening?

[/quote]

Sadly, still no context or perspective included. Just spewing out deaths and infections! Lets just look at the stats you've provided. But with a bit more context and perspective.

The number of outbreaks, active cases, or even the number of infections are all irrelevant. Do we count the number of flu and cold infections? No, because their number of deaths are so low. Yet, a media-hyped-up flu virus kills 15(average) elderly people/day, and it jumps to the no.1 disease in Australia. We just ignore all the other illnesses that are killing thousands of us EACH DAY!

503 deaths between Jan 1, 2024 and Jun 7, 2024(158 days). This represents 3 deaths per day during this period. Or, 0.07% of all daily deaths from illnesses in Australia.

Australia loses around 4,466 people each day to other illnesses(heart disease, lung cancer, diabeties, obesity, dementia, melanomas, strokes, kidney disease, etc.).

So, let me ask you,

How many people are employed in residential aged care facilities in Australia(workforce)?

How many people are living in residential aged care facilities in Australia(residents)?

What is the average age of residents in a residential aged care facility?

What is the average age of those who died with/from covid-19 in residential aged care facilities?

How many of the residents reported dying with/from Covid-19, also had a DNR order filed?

How many of the 503 deaths were staff members? How many were residents?

How many other chronic comorbidities were also listed on these 503 death certificates?

What was the mortality/recovery rates of this illness in residential aged care facilities?

Do you think that ANY policy restrictions could prevent everyone at residential aged care facilities from dying with/from covid-19??

I don't expect you to answer these questions. You seem to want to alarm, NOT inform. If you did, you would quickly learn that any percentage that is less than than 1%, WE JUST CAN'T CONTROL!! Between 0-1% the events/outsomes are based only on CHANCE, NOT SCIENCE!!

The only thing we CAN do, is treat 100% of people who are infected. But there is absolutely nothing we can do to prevent 100% of people from becoming infected. Or preventing 100% of people dying from this disease. As long as you breathe in air, you will always have a chance of becoming infected. Treating and saving 99.9% of sufferers is nothing to just take for granted either.

Even from the beginning, this world-wide jump-on-the-band wagon charade, had a buckly's chance of sucess. It was always a no-brainer that 26M people could never stay 2 meters apart indefinitely. Or, would wear anything on their face that they weren't use to.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 4:40am

all valid points shell but heres the crux of the matter

some people just want to live forever (probably low level narcisists)

and they think if they dont die from covid they will.

its completely screwed up thinking

when you get to 80 , you should bow down and give thanks that you did , look back on all the thriving you enjoyed and then make your peace and accept your very very very immenent departure

you can go out with a flu like illness where you drift off peacefully

or you can lie there as you get pressure sores, you get gangrenous toes, skin cancers eat your face, your bowels and bladder fail and lie in a bed of your own mess, your brain fails and you howl out at night and they try to sedate you with tranquilisers like some wild animal .

you can literally decay in front of your family until they are begging for you to leave

carl sees covid deaths in nusring homes as a tragedy

but he speaks only for carl

if i found myself in that situation i would be dissappointed if they made me suffer for no reason other then to make their stats look better and to enrich pfizer pumping me full of antivirals .
i would welcome a friendly face, not one hidden behind a mask .

if i treated a horse or a dog the way we treat the elderly, letting them suffer so the system can make cash off them (doctors, pharmacists, the bond on homes), i would have the rspca prosecuting me

we need an rspca

royal society for the prevention of cruelty to the aged

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 8:51am

Yes.

SadKangaroo was right.

SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) really took out (and continues to take out) the wrong people.

Perhaps "bird flu" will do a better job after it mutates into direct human to human transmission (if it hasn't already)? But, I doubt it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 12:55am

Bird flu in Australia is being contained.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:21am

Carl D wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

so you would prefer it took out infants and healthy teenagers?

you sicko :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 7:35am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:21am:

so you would prefer it took out infants and healthy teenagers?

you sicko :'( :'( :'(

No, that isn't what I meant.

And you know it.

Please stop trolling because you're really not very good at it.

Oh, and by the way... SARS-CoV-2 is (and has been since the start of the pandemic) taking out infants and healthy teenagers as well as people in other age groups.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 12:55am:

Bird flu in Australia is being contained.

Yes, and we heard the same thing being said about Covid 4 years ago.

Stay tuned... I have no doubt whatsoever that human greed, selfishness and stupidity will ensure that 'history will repeat itself' (with far more tragic results this time).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:04am

Chickens don't get on planes and go overseas and have their infected cough over the fruit and vege section of Woolies.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:30am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Chickens don't get on planes and go overseas and have their infected cough over the fruit and vege section of Woolies.

Indeed.

That will happen after "bird flu" mutates into a human to human direct transmission variant so it's just like Covid and the flu.

If it hasn't happened already... and evidence is starting to emerge that it may already have done so... and with a 50% + CFR (Case Fatality Rate) it will mean we're screwed unless something is done to try and stop it... which doesn't appear to be happening so far.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 12:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

are you saying australians want to go back into lockdown so carl doesnt catch cold ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 12:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 12:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

are you saying australians want to go back into lockdown so carl doesnt catch cold ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, he isn't.

And you're still hopeless at trolling.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 1:38pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:30am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Chickens don't get on planes and go overseas and have their infected cough over the fruit and vege section of Woolies.

Indeed.

That will happen after "bird flu" mutates into a human to human direct transmission variant so it's just like Covid and the flu.

What? Chickens are going to get on planes and fly overseas and cough over the fruit and vege sections of supermarkets?

Geez, you are an alarmist.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:30am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Chickens don't get on planes and go overseas and have their infected cough over the fruit and vege section of Woolies.

Indeed.

That will happen after "bird flu" mutates into a human to human direct transmission variant so it's just like Covid and the flu.

What? Chickens are going to get on planes and fly overseas and cough over the fruit and vege sections of supermarkets?

Geez, you are an alarmist.

Humans. Not chickens.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

Lockdowns began in Australia on the 22nd March 2020. At that time there were only 7 recorded deaths from/with Covid-19. And, only 607 confirmed cases.

The lockdown was officially declared, "finished" in Sept. 2022. Even forced-isolation for those infected. At this time, there were 10,112,229 reported cases of covid-10. There were also 14,421 deaths with/from covid-19(0.1% mortality).

So a 2K times increase in deaths, and a 17K times increase in cases, were all during the lockdown.

Lockdowns have done more damage to the Australian society than the virus ever could. If we ignore everything else, then I agree that the rate was lower. Just NOT the numbers!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus. The death rate has(for the most part) remained the same. Regardless of restrictions, isolations, vaccinations, curfews, business closures, and lockdowns.

In fact everything the government said would happen because of their restrictive policies, DIDN'T! It just became a game of double downing, endless excuses and blaming.

Maybe you can give some examples of these lowest death rates during the lockdown period? And compare them to the before and after the lockdowns? I contend that on average these rates stayed the same.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by MattE on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:57pm

The lockdowns and the rules were overreach.

I remember being yelled at by someone for not wearing a mask outdoors in the fresh air. At the time it was mandatory, but the rule itself nonsensical and I didn't follow it.

The evidence overseas at the time was being outdoors was totally safe and in fact preferable. Yet, Gladys Berejiklian gave into the scare mongering media and imposed an outdoor mandate.

These silly rules have meant a lot of people no longer trust the information from health officials. They were ordered by these people to do things which everyone knew did nothing to stop the spread. They lost credibility.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 6:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:30am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Chickens don't get on planes and go overseas and have their infected cough over the fruit and vege section of Woolies.

Indeed.

That will happen after "bird flu" mutates into a human to human direct transmission variant so it's just like Covid and the flu.

What? Chickens are going to get on planes and fly overseas and cough over the fruit and vege sections of supermarkets?

Geez, you are an alarmist.

Humans. Not chickens.

Thanks, Greg.

Yeah, I should have added something like "then humans will spread it all around the world" to that post.

I did think about editing the post after I made it but I wasn't expecting anyone to make a ridiculous comment about chickens getting on planes and flying overseas. And coughing all over the fruit and veggies in supermarkets.

After all the years I've been here I really should have known better. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

During most of the lockdown there was no vaccine.

In the early days in the US for example the onset of the virus resulted in tens of thousands of deaths with hospitals stuffed full and refiguration trucks in the streets. Without a quick lockdown we could have experienced this as well, instead over the first 15 odd months we had numbers like 2000, deaths in Vic and 1,500 in NSW.

Interesting dynamics in the USA across the board. One is that following the vaccine Deaths in republican stated have been double that of Democrat states. This is because democrat states = take the vaccine and republican states = die before taking the vaccine and they literally did. Some of the Trump lost states could have been impacted by the Trump mass spreader events.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

Can we just stick to the Australian stats on this virus? Using the stats of a country with a population of over 330M, tends to be misleading. It would be irresponsible of our government to base their policy decisions on the stats from another country. We can't just ASSUME that what happens in America will also happen here.

Australia is NOT America. We don't have the density, the population, the environment, the geography, the seasons, and so many other differences. And, highlighting large numbers of deaths in a population of 330M, is intellectually dishonest and fear-mongering. People only hear 10's of thousands of deaths, instead of only 0.006% of their population(0.07% Aust.).

Lockdowns started on March 22, 2020. It COMPLETELY ended in early Sept. 2022. That's a period of over 31 months. But lets take YOUR "15 odd months", which would mean the lockdown ended on June 22nd 2021.

Before this period there were only 7 deaths from/with covid 19, and 607 cases. At the end of this period of lockdown(15 odd months), there were 910 deaths with/from this virus, and 30,366 cases. Even during this period when vaccines weren't available, there were only 900 deaths. And a 98% survival rate.

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-at-a-glance-22-june-2021?language=en

Maybe you can post your source for these reported thousands of deaths in just 2 states?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:35pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:18pm:

Can we just stick to the Australian stats on this virus?

The Branch Covidians don't like our stats.

Quote:

The median age for those who died from COVID-19 was 85.7 years (84.0 years for males, 87.6 years for females).

Most deaths due to COVID-19 have other conditions listed on the death certificate (95.9%).

On average, deaths due to COVID-19 had 3.2 other diseases and conditions certified alongside the virus.

Those with a country of birth in the Middle East had the highest age-standardised death rate at 35.4 deaths per 100,000 people.

Those with a country of birth in Sub-Saharan Africa had the lowest age-standardised death rate at 10.0 per 100,000 people.

Those born in the Eastern European region had the highest median age at death at 90.9 years.

The mortality rate from COVID-19 is 1.7 times higher in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people compared to non-Indigenous people.

For Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander females, the rate of mortality with COVID-19 is nearly three times higher than that of non-Indigenous females.

The rate of mortality in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 45-54 and 55-64 years of age is around 4 times higher than non-Indigenous people of the same age.
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have a high prevalence of chronic diseases such as diabetes, renal disease, and cardiovascular disease with an earlier onset of these conditions.

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-until-31-july-2023

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 12:11am

Perhaps we should just 'cut to the chase' here (once again) and ask why our Federal and State governments have allowed almost 25,000 people to die from a virus that should never have been allowed to escape and run rampant in Australia in the first place?

Not to mention all the seemingly endless sickness that a lot of people are now suffering from and Long Covid cases, etc.

Australia is an island and it wasn't impossible to stop Covid... in fact, we did it for almost 2 years until we had to 'give up for the economy' with a vaccines only 'strategy' that was doomed to failure after other countries (notably the US and the UK) tried the same 'strategy' before Australia and failed dismally (and disastrously).

We should also be asking (once again) why Australia (and other countries) has been allowed to get away with ignoring at least one International Covenant which we've been a signatory to for over 50 years.

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Specifically Article 12, Section 2(c) and probably (d) as well.

Quote:

1. The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health.

2. The steps to be taken by the States Parties to the present Covenant to achieve the full realization of this right shall include those necessary for:

(a) The provision for the reduction of the stillbirth-rate and of infant mortality and for the healthy development of the child;

(b) The improvement of all aspects of environmental and industrial hygiene;

(c) The prevention, treatment and control of epidemic, endemic, occupational and other diseases;

(d) The creation of conditions which would assure to all medical service and medical attention in the event of sickness.

We should also be asking (once again) why our Federal and State governments are also being allowed to get away with ignoring their own Health Acts that say pretty much the same thing as that Covenant in regards to "epidemic, endemic, occupational and other diseases".

Obviously that Covenant and our Health Acts are 'not worth the paper they're written on'. Especially if they affect the economy.

Same goes for the Australian Charter of Healthcare Rights which states quite clearly:

Quote:

Safety

■■ Receive safe and high quality health care that meets
national standards

■■ Be cared for in an environment that makes me feel safe

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 12:46pm

i dont think ANY environment would make you feel safe carl

best you stay in your bedroom

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 12:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 12:46pm:

i dont think ANY environment would make you feel safe carl

best you stay in your bedroom

Thank you for yet another useless "contribution" to the discussion.

Oh, I'll ask again while I'm here - have you found any (genuine) proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "mild respiratory virus"?

No? I didn't think so.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 1:01pm

stay safe carl

lead a long dull unintersting but very safe life

that is the definition of human thriving :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 12:11am:

Going by the number of people who are being infected (and many dying) with Covid, flu and RSV, etc. in hospitals, other healthcare settings and aged care (mainly because staff won't wear masks) this is obviously also being ignored.

These are the important questions that need to be answered but I'm guessing that as long as 99.9% of the population probably have no idea about any of this our governments can continue to ignore them while people continue to die from Covid (and the flu) every year with no end in sight.[/quote]

I don't think "Medical Fascism" is conducive to the individual's right of self-determination, and an adequate standard of living. Or, his right to "freely pursue his own economic, social and cultural development.".

The government's response to this flu, almost destroyed our country's economy. Their policies ended the dreams of thousands of small business owners. And, put hundreds of thousands of Austrlians on the dole.

Australians now know how it feels to be under authoritarian rule. Being told what they can do, when and where they can do it, and with whom(and how many) they can do it with, was just too much. Especially, when the why's keep changing every day. People could see with their own eyes, that this manufactured hype was just that!

Not only were these draconian policies immature, but they were impossible to maintain, enforce and monitor. And, you want us to go back to these restrictions, isolations, and confinements again? For YOUR greater good!

If this government tries to enslave us, or suspend our freedoms again, we will march and remove them again. This is an illness with a case mortality rate(CMR) of less than the Measles, and a survival rate of over 99%. No rational mind could see this virus as virulent or mortally dangerous.

If you're going to defend your position, then you must address the concerns of those who disagree with you. I'd be very happy to be wrong. Can you can demonstrate why my own immune system is NOT adequate to fight this virus?

But if you are just going to spew out your own version of the truth, then we're done. You remind me of how Joe McCarthy found his "shtick" in Wheeling W. Virginia. But at the end of the day he was just another fraud, committed for attention and self-aggrandisement.

https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/amex31m-soc-speechredscare/the-speech-that-launched-the-1950s-red-scare-mccarthy/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svUyYzzv6VI

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:56pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

But if you are just going to spew out your own version of the truth, then we're done.

Is that a promise?

If you're really done here could you take aquascoot with you? That would be great.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:00pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

This is insane logic.

Do you not see where you're going wrong?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:56pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

But if you are just going to spew out your own version of the truth, then we're done.

Is that a promise?

If you're really done here could you take aquascoot with you? That would be great.

Thanks. :)

then you would have a non challenging "safe space"

sounds like your idea of bliss ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

So instead of gaslighting me, and implying that there are flaws in my reasoning, maybe you can provide more specific details?

We obviously don't see things in the same way. My reality is my reality, and your reality is your reality.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:56pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:56pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

But if you are just going to spew out your own version of the truth, then we're done.

Is that a promise?

If you're really done here could you take aquascoot with you? That would be great.

Thanks. :)

Uh..NO! ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4mkIzk8qXU

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 7:30pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

it would always have been better to educate people and let them make their own decisions

the swedish approach

in the end there wasnt any difference between stockholm and melbourne in terms of covid deaths

but the west has really shot itself in the foot with 1/2 of all american states now passing laws that PROHOBIT lockdowns being imposed again

i suppose if there was a nasty virus (not covid) people would voluntarily lockdown

certainly if covid killed young children in large numbers i would expect my daughters to go into voluntary lockdown with the grandkids

thats the point

health should always be a matter between the doctor and the patient

dan andrews or justin trudeau or donald trump arent doctors and they should just present the info to the doctors who should inform the public and let the public decide what risk they are willing to accept

we also face the reality that people have dropped off in other vaccines because they had a negative reaction to mandates

thats unfortunate

i get my tetanus jab every 10 years as i muck around with horses
i am amazed how many people i know who arent up to date with the good vaccines like tetanus

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

i suppose if there was a nasty virus (not covid) people would voluntarily lockdown

Hey, look at that.

You agree with the esteemed Dr. David Berger for once.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1800760211504091473

Quote:

It's only a matter of time before we face a deliberately engineered pandemic. I smile wryly at those who say about lockdowns "Never again!"

If the pathogen is engineered effectively enough, it won't need governments to mandate lockdowns. People will do it themselves.

Yes. Yes they will.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

NO! I'm not! Are you?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:55pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

NO! I'm not!

That makes it even sadder :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

I also had my tetanus shot when my first grandchild was born. Although tetanus is uncommon, it can be very serious. Did you know that if you've had the common cold, that you may already have antibodies against this virus. This explains why 60% of people infected, are asymptomatic during the entire illness.

I agree with you. Any illness that is clearly dangerous to humans, would need no prompting/threats/coercion from the government. People would take whatever actions/advice to avoid being infected, VOLUNTARILLY! But this virus just isn't that virulent to anyone not in the high-risk category.

Also, I don't think the office workers in Brisbane need to start panicking that the bird flu will get them yet. It is unfortunate how a little knowledge can be so dangerous in the hands of some people.

No one knows everything. But before I stick a rushed experimental scheduled 4 poison into my arm(indefinitely), or my children's, I will know everything there is to know about this drug.

The first problem is, there is NO guarantee that the vaccine will stay in the muscles during inoculation. Once these nano-encased lipids get into the bloodstream they can go anywhere in the body. Looking for other ACE2 receptor sites. We are now changing the body's normal metabolism!

I wonder what would've happened if there wasn't any fear-mongering, to herald the arrival of this virus? I doubt if most people would've noticed anything different in their daily lives.

We have had viral outbreaks in Australia since the 60's. But, we never tried to kill the patient to kill the virus. People really don't realize just how close we came to destroying this nation's economy. Just to stop a relatively mild virus! That is insane!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

NO! I'm not!

That makes it even sadder :-/

On that, we DO agree!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 11:25pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

Quote:

Can we just stick to the Australian stats on this virus? Using the stats of a country with a population of over 330M, tends to be misleading.

In individual cities in the US tens of thousands died in a few months before lockdowns. It is valid to see the comparative results between those who took action and those who didn't.

You said that it made no difference but when we look at places who didn't effectively lock down quickly the fact that it did make a huge difference is obvious. NY for example were early hit and had 83,000 deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 12:34pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

i somewhat concur

but i doubt the vaccines killed many people
just as i doubt covid killed many people (other then those who were in gods waiting room).

the problem is that mandates and lockdowns divided people and made them lose trust in vaccines which is entirely counter productive.

if covid was a terrible scourge maybe we should have pumped out a vaccine without the usual years of trails

but it wasnt

it was just another medical issue and shoudl have been dealt with in exactly the same way as other medical issues

by doctors and patients

not by politicians and police and major social , educational , family and career disruption

people were not allowed to visit dying relatives interstate
were not allowed to be there for births of their children
missed out on weddings and funerals

that was a large over reaction and the public wont take kindly to it again and who knows , it may actually be neccessary in the future

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:31pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

NO! I'm not!

That makes it even sadder :-/

On that, we DO agree!

Read what you've written and figure out where your "logic" is wrong.

You're making a massive fool of yourself. Seriously.

I'll give you a hint:

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

Prove. Not give anecdotal evidence or meaningless stats.

Provide proof that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus".

I'll tell you now, you can't do it. It's impossible, and that's where you're going wrong.

Sit down and think about it for a minute - the penny will eventually drop.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 11:25pm:

I don't remember saying that early lockdowns would make little difference in the death/infection tallies(but I could have). Even during the first "15 odd months" of the lockdowns. There just isn't any direct causal links between lockdowns and mass infections/deaths.

I do remember pointing out population density as a contributing factor. For example you used NY. It has the highest population density of all the US states(27K people/sq. mile). In comparison, Sydney's population density is 1.1K people/sq. mile.

Does this mean the virus will spread 27 times faster in NY than in Sydney? No, there are other factors that must be considered. Australia is NOT the same as other countries. Many factors might not apply here.

You said that there were thousands of covid deaths in NSW and Victoria within the "15 odd months" of the lockdown. But my research shows there were only around 900 recorded deaths throughout Australia.

My point is, that we should NOT base our policies and strategies on the stats from other countries. We certainly know more about these factors in our own country than we do in the US.

We know that there were only 7 covid deaths, and over 600 cases before the lockdowns. After lockdowns(15 odd months) there were over 900 deaths, and over 30K cases. If we calculate that the 7 deaths were in 1 month, then there should only be 105 deaths in 15 months of lockdowns. Why was there over 900 deaths? The government will just blame the people and create even tighter restrictions

The last two points are, it doesn't matter how many people are infected. All that matters is how many people die DIRECTLY from this virus. And how many people recover from this virus. Remember, even over 80% of our elderly recover from this virus.

Finally, there is asolutely NOTHING we can do to "CONTROL CHANCE". Since the mortality rate of this virus is less than 1%, we are in the realm of chance. The variables in this range are almost infinite.

So let me ask you, do you think that 26M people can stay 1.5 meters apart indefinitely? Do you think that masks WILL protect you from being infected? Do you think that vaccines will prevent anyone from being infected?

So why did we almost destroy our own country thinking that these measures could? It would have been cheaper for the government to issue everyone(including children) with their own completely self-contained HAZMAT suit!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:31pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 3:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Covid Deaths in Australia will soon cross 25,000.

Thru the lock down period Australia had one of the lowest death rates.

That would have to be one of the most twisted pieces of "logic" I've seen in my life.

Surely you're joking :-/

All I'm saying is that, the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but it's insane.

Do you honestly not understand the flaw in your "reasoning"?

YES, I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FLAW IN MY REASONING!!

I hope you're joking ::)

NO! I'm not!

That makes it even sadder :-/

On that, we DO agree!

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

So let me ask you something? Prove that the lockdown DID slow the spread of this virus. That fewer people were being infected. And, that fewer people were dying. And NO anecdotal evidence or meaningless stats! Okay?

So, "sit down and think about it for a minute - the penny will eventually drop.".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:06pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

No, I'm asking you a question.

Why won't you answer it?

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

Yes or no?

Those are your words: "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus".

Prove it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:23pm

Oh, look... here's more evidence that aquascoot's "mild respiratory virus" is anything but.

From the UK...

https://x.com/_CatintheHat/status/1801019335693029729

Quote:

When you mass infect a population with a disease which, according to the World Health Organisation, causes long-term chronic illness in 10% of infections, then sadly a “tsunami of disability” is the inevitable consequence.

Scientists warned us…

Yes, and it will be exactly the same for Australia and the rest of the world.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:51pm

people who prefer to wear their pyjamas all day after they have a cold dont have long covid .

they have a slack attitude and love the sick role

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

ShellShilo? Hello ... :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 12:34pm:

i somewhat concur

but i doubt the vaccines killed many people
just as i doubt covid killed many people (other then those who were in gods waiting room).

the problem is that mandates and lockdowns divided people and made them lose trust in vaccines which is entirely counter productive.

if covid was a terrible scourge maybe we should have pumped out a vaccine without the usual years of trails

but it wasnt

it was just another medical issue and shoudl have been dealt with in exactly the same way as other medical issues

by doctors and patients

not by politicians and police and major social , educational , family and career disruption

people were not allowed to visit dying relatives interstate
were not allowed to be there for births of their children
missed out on weddings and funerals

that was a large over reaction and the public wont take kindly to it again and who knows , it may actually be neccessary in the future

I never meant to imply there was an inordinate amount of adverse vaccine events. Any adverse event less than 1%, is just friken bad luck.

All vaccines will have some adverse reactions and side effects. However, this is NOT a normal vaccine. I doesn't work in the body like a normal vaccine. All other vaccines use dead, attenuated, partial, or modified real pathogens. The immune system's antibodies can recognize multiple markers(not just one) on the pathogens/antigens.

Also, ACE2 receptor sites are found all over the body. If these mRNA attach to ACE2 receptors on cardiac muscle cells, they will force them to produce spiral spikes. This will then prompt the immune system to attack them(cardiac muscles). I'm curious! Do people not understand how the immune system works?

Forunately, it is rare for a healthcare worker to inject this vaccine directly into a blood vessel. But it does happen. This doesn't happen with normal vaccines. But the more injections in the population, the greater the chances of adverse events in the population.

My mother passed away during the lockdown. I was not allowed to say my final goodbys.

I agree that your medical problems should always be between you and your doctor. The line is drawn when I am threatened, ridiculed, coerced, or forced to put anything into my body against my will. This should be a no-brainer to anyone!

What medical decisions others choose is none of my business. If you don't want medical help, no doctor can force you too. So how can the government? I think this was only to show the world, that Australia can do one better than any other country.

We can isolate longer, suspend more civil liberties, have higher fines, hire dumber thugs for enforcement, build better containment centers, close down more businesses, force medical ID's/passports, close down interstate borders, stop international flights, enforce curfews and impossible mandates(distancing and masks), and jab or job.

The world was so impressed, that they actually marched to free Australia in solidarity! That actually brought a tear to my eye.

I doubt if the government will ever make that mistake again!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:48pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

No, I'm asking you a question.

Why won't you answer it?

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

Yes or no?

Those are your words: "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus".

Prove it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

ShellShilo? Hello ... :-/

Hang in there son. I'm going to have tea now, and watch a tele-drama. Then I'll get back to you! Okay?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 7:21pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

ShellShilo? Hello ... :-/

Hang in there son. I'm going to have tea now, and watch a tele-drama. Then I'll get back to you! Okay?

Good.

Remember, I want proof - not anecdotal evidence or irrelevant stats.

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Dnarever on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:42pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 11:25pm:

Quote:

I do remember pointing out population density as a contributing factor. For example you used NY. It has the highest population density of all the US states

I used NY as a similar population I am aware that other factors are involved.

I could have included Texas where the deaths were over 100,000. Obviously higher population and it being a republican state made a difference, more reluctance to lock down mask or have the vaccine.

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just isn't any direct causal links between lockdowns and mass infections/deaths.

It is a fact that places like Australia that locked down quickly had much fewer deaths than places that didn't. There were other factors but the base fact is correct. It wasn't a coincidence that places that were slow to act equated to more people dying.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 11:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:31pm:

Read what you've written and figure out where your "logic" is wrong.

You're making a massive fool of yourself. Seriously.

I'll give you a hint:

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

Prove. Not give anecdotal evidence or meaningless stats.

Provide proof that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus".

I'll tell you now, you can't do it. It's impossible, and that's where you're going wrong.

Sit down and think about it for a minute - the penny will eventually drop.

In my original post(#736) that seemed to have pushed your button, I made no such statement. Yet you claimed that it was logically flawed and insane. It wasn't until post(#738) that I was clarifying to another poster, that I made that statement.

So let me see if I understand YOUR conditions. You want me to prove MY assertion, but I can't use any data or stats(well Carl would be screwed), because stats and data are meaningless. And, no personal experiences or anecdotal evidence are allowed. Because they just don't matter.

My logic was simple. I would show the numbers of covid deaths/infections before the lockdown, before vaccines, during the lockdowns, and after lockdowns. These numbers are based on death certificates, hospital admissions, and aged care reports.

If the lockdowns and other restrictions were working, we would expect to see a decline in the rate of infections/deaths. Instead, the rate of deaths/infections stayed around 1%.

In fact, after 2022(end lockdowns) the death rates was falling to less than 1% each year. Now this was more likely due to the virus running out of viable hosts(herd immunity).

As I have said before, any stats under 1% is just bad luck. We just can't control chance. If 99.9% of people survive this virus, that's as good as it gets! This the main reason why people marched. So many Australian couldn't see the hype. Only the reality. The Government was turning Australia into a centralized authoritarian nation.

A fraction of a percent of people are going to die from this illness, no matter what safety protocols they adopt. Our physical and mental health will change as we age. Entropy will always win in the end.

I doubt if any of this will satisfy your thirst for knowledge. So let me concede that if I'm not allowed to provide evidence to support my opinion, then I can't "PROVE" that my opinion is sound or valid. Somehow, I don't think you're really interested in proof! Are you?

I won't ask you to prove your belief that the lockdown strategies DID directly decrease deaths and infections rates. That would indeed be impossible. Even if you could present stats and data. Hence why data from other countries are used.

So, could you now point out where in post #736 my logic was flawed? Or why it is insane? Maybe someone else here can help you to explain?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 1:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:42pm:

Okay, lets look at Texas. It DOES have over 100,000 deaths. But you didn't mention that these were the total accumulated deaths since early 2020. Right? Now lets add some more context! As of April 11, 2024, the total deaths with/from Covid was 104,793 people(1% mortality).

Now lets also include, that out of a total of 9,190,299 cases, there were 9,071,389 people who survived(99% survival). This is around 68 Texans dying each day with/from this virus, since the start of the pandemic.

I also don't think that this virus has any partisan preference. It is an equal opportunity virus. It will infect young/old, masked/unmasked, vaccinated/unvaccinated, republicans/democrates, Black Americans/White Americans, ALL EQUALLY!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 10:42pm:

Although this might seem intuitively obvious, the stats and data just don't support this claim. What the stats and data HAVE shown us, is that this is a less virulent form of the original SARS virus. That the majority of people infected are asymptomatic, or reported having zero to mild symptoms. Those not in the high-risk category have an over 99% chance of survival.

This was really just a storm in a teacup.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 2:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 7:21pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

So you are basically saying, that because I disagree with you, my logic must be flawed!! Wow!!

ShellShilo? Hello ... :-/

Hang in there son. I'm going to have tea now, and watch a tele-drama. Then I'll get back to you! Okay?

Good.

Remember, I want proof.

Can you prove that "the lockdown did absolutely nothing to slow the spread, and number of deaths/infections from this virus"?

So, that's a 'no'.

White flag accepted ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:25pm

Meanwhile, the reaping of the elderly and vulnerable continues unabated.

Another 48 Covid deaths in Australian aged care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1801481310768443683

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🔸6,677 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸551 reported deaths in 2024

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1801481308587364861

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 13 June 2024

🔹Active cases: 4,147 (-141)
🔹Active outbreaks: 487 (+12)
🔹Residents: 2,888 (-94)
🔹Staff: 1,259 (-47)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 551 (+48)

And...

South Australia. Another 28 deaths (reported monthly).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1801478287463764256

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SA weekly COVID update: 5 June to 11 June

🔹PCR cases only: 1,666 (-31.4%)
🔹Deaths: 28 (+28)
🔹Total deaths: 1,815 (+28)
🔹Hospital: NR
🔹ICU: NR

NR = Not Reported

ACT. 3 more deaths.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1801479370617589826

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ACT weekly COVID update: 7 June to 13 June

🔹PCR cases only: 201 (-25.5%)
🔹Deaths: 3 (+2)
🔹Total deaths: 320 (+3)
🔹Hospital: 45 (-15.0%)
🔹ICU: 2 (-1)
🔹Vent: 1 (+1)

And Victoria. 134 deaths in 28 days - about 33 deaths per week (see the summary).

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1801408109816254960

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Vic Covid update
"The number of people in hospital with COVID-19 has decreased this week. The 7-day average is 368, compared to 412 last week"
Peak? False peak? Wastewater data (still rising) but 2 weeks old.
Regardless, Covid is still circulating at high levels in the community.

Nothing from the other States or Territory, I just imagine how much of a Covid disaster New South Wales must be in at the moment if they were still reporting cases and deaths.

https://x.com/annatime94/status/1801415726873591999

Quote:

"The pressure on NSW hospitals right now is like we've never seen before':
Ryan Park

What a mystery @RyanPark_Keira

“We are seeing big increases in not only the number presenting but also the severity of the illnesses they're presenting with”.

Another mystery.

Yes, what a mystery indeed (Anna is being sarcastic there by the way. She knows that it's Covid causing most of these issues).

Of course, 99.9% of the Australian population knows nothing about all of this - just the way the pollies like it.

And, of the few that do know I'm sure the majority of them couldn't care less (including at least 2 regular posters here).

Tragic and disgraceful.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:33pm

carl

i do believe you spend more time thinking about covid, then gweg spends thinking about trumps penis

both seem unhealthy habits :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:37pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

And, of the few that do know I'm sure the majority of them couldn't care less (including at least 2 regular posters here).

Tragic and disgraceful.

And, right on cue... here's the first...

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:33pm:

carl

i do believe you spend more time thinking about covid, then gweg spends thinking about trumps penis

both seem unhealthy habits :'( :'( :'(

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:55pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

And, of the few that do know I'm sure the majority of them couldn't care less (including at least 2 regular posters here).

Tragic and disgraceful.

And, right on cue... here's the first...

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:33pm:

carl

i do believe you spend more time thinking about covid, then gweg spends thinking about trumps penis

both seem unhealthy habits :'( :'( :'(

::) ::) ::)

carl,

you've already admitted 99 % of people couldnt care less

we live in a democracy

whats your problem ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 6:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

carl,

you've already admitted 99 % of people couldnt care less

we live in a democracy

whats your problem ?

My biggest problem right now is trying to work out why someone like you isn't a politician... because you certainly have a 'talent' for it.

Perhaps you could get a job writing press releases for your hero, John "Dr. Death"/"Lex Luthor" Gerrard?

You missed your calling in life, of that I'm certain.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 8:50am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

And, of the few that do know I'm sure the majority of them couldn't care less (including at least 2 regular posters here).

Tragic and disgraceful.

And, right on cue... here's the first...

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:33pm:

carl

i do believe you spend more time thinking about covid, then gweg spends thinking about trumps penis

both seem unhealthy habits :'( :'( :'(

::) ::) ::)

carl,

you've already admitted 99 % of people couldnt care less

we live in a democracy

whats your problem ?

The problem is intention.

You wanted, let me repeat that, wanted the elderly to die so young men could get their dicks wet and you could get on the piss away from the wife, all while at the same time advocating against every measure from wearing masks to social distancing that would have allowed less restriction on movement while also trying to help reduce the spread and protect the most vulnerable as much as possible during the height of COVID when we knew the least about it.

The goal was always the hope that the strains would weaken over time, with a mix of the natural life cycle, reduced transmissions and mutation chance thanks to mitigation efforts and the high coverage from vaccines to reduce the lengths and severity of infections so it would become like a seasonal flu.

The elderly and at risk would still die, but lockdowns and mitigation efforts would be a thing of the past.

But you didn't care about the elderly other than wanting them to die for trivial things early on, to now.

Other people, much more in the 99%, have far more humanity than you and while they will accept these deaths in the same way as we do the seasonal flu numbers, they won't revel in it as part of trying to win an online argument such as yourself.

Intention matters.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 12:50pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:25pm:

And, of the few that do know I'm sure the majority of them couldn't care less (including at least 2 regular posters here).

Tragic and disgraceful.

And, right on cue... here's the first...

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 5:33pm:

carl

i do believe you spend more time thinking about covid, then gweg spends thinking about trumps penis

both seem unhealthy habits :'( :'( :'(

::) ::) ::)

carl,

you've already admitted 99 % of people couldnt care less

we live in a democracy

whats your problem ?

harsh and unfair

you say "intention'

i say "priorities"

and children and teenagers, their school experience, the ability to play team sports and participate in rites of passage are a bigger priority then the elderly.

children are more important then old people and i get tired of the living treasures lies that are told

many elderly are put away and ignored and lead miserable lives of decay and would welcome covid.

its a bit rich that people who probably put their oldies in nursing homes because they are a nuisance, then try to act morally superior by calling them "our most precious generation"

i'm happy to call out hypocricy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 12:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 12:50pm:

i'm happy to call out hypocricy.

Including Aquascoot's own hypocrisy or "hypocricy"?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 2:48pm

It is an evolutionary disadvantage for any virus to kill its host. It needs its host to pass itself on to other hosts.

Our immune system will attack any pathogen that enters the body. But, these antibodies will also attack and destroy any normal cells/tissues that get in the way to the pathogen. This also causes bacterial infections, which also must be addressed.

It is a physiological fact that our immune system changes as we age. It tends to either overreact or underreact to pathogens as we age. Corticosteroid drugs are used for an overactive immune system. And, antibodies/immunoglobulin therapy are used for an underactive immune system.

Since viruses(unlike bacteria) are found INSIDE the cells/tissues, these cells will be attacked and destroyed as well. And, the more cells/tissues destroyed, the weaker the functioning of the organ. Eventully, the organ will shut down!

I believe that it is a tragedy and a blessing, that those being kept alive on drugs, with multiple comorbidities and other chronic illnesses, will no longer continue to suffer.

Keeping someone alive to watch themselves decay physically and mentally, and knowing they can no longer function normally in society, is definitely the OPPOSITE of humanity.

Because of their compromised immune system, our elderly will continue to die because of the "complications" from ANY pathogen.

Using the "elderly guillt card" will not change this medical/social reality.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

The problem is intention.

You wanted, let me repeat that, wanted the elderly to die so young men could get their dicks wet and you could get on the piss away from the wife, all while at the same time advocating against every measure from wearing masks to social distancing that would have allowed less restriction on movement while also trying to help reduce the spread and protect the most vulnerable as much as possible during the height of COVID when we knew the least about it.

The goal was always the hope that the strains would weaken over time, with a mix of the natural life cycle, reduced transmissions and mutation chance thanks to mitigation efforts and the high coverage from vaccines to reduce the lengths and severity of infections so it would become like a seasonal flu.

The elderly and at risk would still die, but lockdowns and mitigation efforts would be a thing of the past.

But you didn't care about the elderly other than wanting them to die for trivial things early on, to now.

Other people, much more in the 99%, have far more humanity than you and while they will accept these deaths in the same way as we do the seasonal flu numbers, they won't revel in it as part of trying to win an online argument such as yourself.

Intention matters.

Are you saying that the government was 'intentionally" stupid?

Did you think that any government could keep 26M people 1.5m apart indefinitely? Could any government force 26M people to wear useless masks(even Kindy kids), but take them off to eat drink and sleep, indefinitely?

How about the closing down of small businesses, or forcing people to get jabbed? How about carrying a medical ID, to be allowed in restaurants and other venues? Then closing down international and national borders, schools, parks, beaches, weddings, funerals, etc.? This is clearly extreme ignorance and overreach.

Does any rational mind think that man could physically prevent anyone from catching a cold(all are coronaviruses)? Then why did they think they could prevent anyone from being infected with THIS virus?

If the government was really serious about prevention, they would've issued every man woman and child their own self-contained Hazmat suit. Or, at least to those in the high-risk categories.

The government's only intention was to "one-up" the rest of the world! There was never a chance that any of their restrictive measures would prevent jack!

If you are going to blame the government for each new death, then you must also praise the government for each recovery as well. And, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is already a weaker version of the original SARS virus! And, so are all of its variants(less virulent).

This was all a media-manufactured viral hype from the beginning. At least the government now knows just how far it can go the next time. Once people started seeing just how many people were recovering(vaccinated or not), the jig was up!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 5:27pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

And, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is already a weaker version of the original SARS virus! And, so are all of its variants(less virulent).

Citation needed.

Thank you.

Oh, and I don't mean 'proof' like that South African doctor saying "Omicron is mild" in late 2021 which started the whole "Covid is nothing to worry about anymore, it's just a cold" BS (which governments, business and the media gleefully 'pounced on' and they've run with it ever since).

And that's also why every variant since has been called Omicron. In fact, we should have been through the whole Greek alphabet by now if it hadn't been for that mistake.

Also, if the number of Covid deaths has been lower lately it's probably only because millions of the elderly and vulnerable have already been 'taken out' worldwide by Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:15pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

I was never talking about the government, I was referring to posters here, what they were advocating for, and why they were doing it.

You're in the privileged position of hindsight and are lucky that you're not looking back, had things gone differently and you're not complaining that the Government didn't do enough or worse, not around to complain at all.

Nothing would please you because you don't like being told what to do, and if you weren't told what to do, the virus was much worse and it killed a significant portion of the population as it was allowed to run wild, you'd be complaining that the Government didn't tell others what to do.

It's those like you who liken outlawing drink driving and being forced to wear a seatbelt or a bike helmet to an authoritarian communist state.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:51pm

for skip

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 11:24pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

And, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is already a weaker version of the original SARS virus! And, so are all of its variants(less virulent).

Or, it could be becaused of 'herd immunity'(not enough uninfected people to infect). Most likely!

Look, you might be 100% correct in your concerns. And, I could be 100% wrong. But you can't just dismiss the concerns of others with some silly social label. Or just ridicule their questions as being irrelevant.

With no more than a cursory understanding of basic immunology, human physiology, biochemistry, virology, and epidemiology, your opinions will be far from informed. And, from reading your parroted posts, I'd say that you are not very informed on the subject.

Without this background understanding of how the body works, or how the body defends itself, it will be very difficult to defend your position. You must cut copy and past what others say.

Simply stating that the survivor rate of this virus is 99.9%(vaccinated or not), should've ended any argument about the severity of this virus. Even the government stop posting this stat. It would've completely undermined its anxiety and fear campaign.

Keeping people anxiety-ridden and fearfull, would justify their suspension of civil liberties, and in almost destroying the country's economy. They couldn't do this if people knew that this virus is less severe than the measles?

Remember, just because a virus mutates doesn't mean that it will become more virulent. Historically, mutated viruses are generally less severe than the original.

Remember, viral mutations are mainly to avoid detection from the host's immune system. Or, to be able to replicate faster. These are more important than killing the host.

Anyway, here's a few websites you might want to take a look at.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/How-does-SARS-CoV-2-Compare-to-SARS-CoV.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9436716/#:~:text=SARS%2DCoV%2D2%20binding%20affinity,exposed%20than%20SARS%2DCoV%20RBD.

https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-vs-sars#severity

From Massachusetts General Hopital, and Harvard Medical School.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/01/14/1072504127/fact-check-the-theory-that-sars-cov-2-is-becoming-milder

Omicron the latest and the least virulent.

https://enviromicro-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1751-7915.14064

Will the SARS-CoV-2 virus evolve to become more/less deadly? Historically, it will be less virulent!

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/will-covid-19-evolve-be-more-or-less-deadly

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 8:31am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

for skip

That's a cop-out by those who were failed by the education system.

Your opinion is not worth the same as researched and proven fact.

I know it might seem that way because the morning news shows often have some housewife or random from the street sitting opposite an expert in their field for "balance" but it doesn't make each of their conclusions worth the same thing.

You complain when your option isn't listed to because it's been proven unfounded and rather than looking within and questioning your beliefs when reality says you're wrong, you invent conspiracy to justify being stubborn.

It doesn't mean as we learn more, evidence can't change and be updated which may support a gut feeling you've had in the past, or a justification used to fight against being told what to do, but that's just luck.

Your gut feelings aren't evidence.

Although I'm glad that the passing of time has proven some of your gut feelings to justify your tantrums over not wanting to wear a mask, needing to escape the wife and kids or generally being told what to do turned out to not be too far-fetched.

What is scary though is if we face another more dangerous pandemic in our lifetimes, which I sincerely hope not, more people will react like you did during COVID in greater numbers and it will be the end of us.

I'm just hoping in this nightmare scenario there are steps individuals can take to protect themselves and it's only those who nominate and compete in the Herman Cain Awards who win them.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 8:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

for skip

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Education system.

You confuse critical thinking skills with seeking information that validates your already-held beliefs.

You've been let down because you've been left mainly with the latter, or at least the mistaken belief that the two are equal.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:38pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

how would you know.

my "intuition" was that covid was a respiratory virus that killed off the weak and unhealthy
i consider myself healthy

therefore i saw no need to poop my pants

i never sought reassurance from some whacky conspiracy theorists

and i think my intuition has been born out.

i see despite carls and your "messaging"
, less then 50 % of residents in nursing homes have agreed to a booster in the last 12 months

so the majority of the most vulnerable people ALSO think its a mild respiratory virus.

if anyone is down a rabbit hole its carl

he continues to call the qld CHO, a man with a ph d in immunology "Dr Death"

maybe you could advise him on becoming "educated" ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Unless you are an Infectious Disease Specialist, Epidemiologist, Virologist, Public Health Expert, Intensive Care Specialist, Pulmonologist, Immunologist, General Practitioner, Researcher or Scientist, your intuition is nothing but an uninformed gamble based on your wants and desires.

You got lucky.

And I'm so glad you did. I would have loved to take the same bet as you, but the stakes were too high.

Instead, I wore a mask, got vaccinated, socially distances where possible and started a neighbourhood group to force us all to get to know each other and help out the elderly around us with the things they needed from a shopping run to something as simple as putting the bins out for them.

To the community in general, they're full of arseholes bitching and moaning about masks, accepting the most stupid of logic about them killing people all to justify not being told what to do, at least the small community we created during COVID has lasted and we're a better neighbourhood for it.

Quote:

i see despite carls and your "messaging"
, less then 50 % of residents in nursing homes have agreed to a booster in the last 12 months

so the majority of the most vulnerable people ALSO think its a mild respiratory virus.

You can't make that claim either. They could be scared by the conspiracy theories around the vaccines.

Quote:

if anyone is down a rabbit hole its carl

he continues to call the qld CHO, a man with a ph d in immunology "Dr Death"

maybe you could advise him on becoming "educated" ::) ::)

I don't know enough about his position to make any claim either way.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:38pm:

I see.

So, have you spoken to the majority of aged and vulnerable people and asked them?

Don't you think it's more likely that due to the total lack of information being given by our governments and the media these days most people probably don't even realise Covid is still a major concern and therefore don't see the need to get vaccinated? Or keep up to date with their vaccinations.

And it is still killing people at a rate of about 10 times more than the flu (over 100 deaths in Australian aged care during the past 3 weeks with no end in sight plus all the other deaths that are not being reported anymore).

Quote:

he continues to call the qld CHO, a man with a ph d in immunology "Dr Death"

Oh, I'm not the only one.

Now, if you asked Queenslanders what they think of him I'm certain the majority would agree with me, especially those who know that Covid isn't just a "mild respiratory virus".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

It depends on what your priorities are.

Early on during the pandemic, I lost friends in the US, I had close relatives in isolation watching the elderly die around them. These were people I cared about and respected, some family some close friends, and their messaging was simple.

Please wear your mask when you go outside, don't risk it, if not for you, for those around you. Try to avoid getting the virus and if you do, stay home.

So I did.

At the time we didn't know how well masks worked to protect the wearer, but the understanding was that respiratory droplets were the main transmission vector and masks helped reduce their escaping into the environment which would help reduce transmission.

So I did.

So at the time, I would be an advocate of "doing the right thing", kept up to date on the latest medical and scientific understanding and the best advice to protect yourself and your family and I would advocate for that.

Fast forward to now and while a lot has been learned about COVID from the virus to the vaccines and everything in between, the greatest lesson I learned had nothing to do with the virus itself but the people.

I used to be far more active in my community. I did Meal on Wheels, I would donate money to various causes and would generally be a considerate person, opening doors for people, giving up my seat on public transport for those who need it etc.

But I learned that all of that is a waste of time to an ungrateful and entitled population.

People would not take the most simple of actions to help out those around them during COVID and not only that, they would attack those who did.

I could accept if you one was a little baby and didn't want to wear a mask because they don't like being told what to do, but to then attack others who are, deliberately trying to spread the virus by coughing on people etc, all to prove a point.

I'm done.

I had people deliberately coughing on me before we had access to vaccines because I was doing the weekly shop, wearing a mask and social distancing, and they'd just cut in front of me while I'm getting a jar from the shelf because they couldn't wait their turn. So much for 1.5 meters. I asked them "you right mate" and they just turned and started coughing in my face.

Then some will make comments when we were wearing our masks during the mandates that anyone doing that is scared or a sheeple etc, like in person, getting up in your face and screaming so much you can feel their spittle all over you, not just some little bitch behind a keyboard, then trying to make life difficult for the staff at restaurants or shops just trying to survive during lockdowns.

These people showed me that mateship and all the things we Aussies claim as our culture, it's all bullshit.

It's all about what others can do for me, fullstop.

People are just selfish trash and will gladly take take take but never offer to help in return.

They are not worthy of my compassion, my time, effort or money.

Unless I know you and you are within my circle, there is no automatic caring or respect.

Brisbane will flood again, I won't be going up there as part of the mud army ever again. My wife won't and I'd hope our children won't either.

If people want to be front bottoms, then they'll be treated like it.

That said, as much as I'd love to become selfish and just stop caring about those around me. It's not that simple in practice.

During the Christmas storms on the Gold Coast, I had a generator, plenty of fuel, portable fridges and plenty of battery storage for smart devices

3 of my neighbours had extension cords over the fence powering their fridges for a week from the geny and with even our cell going down, I setup some directional wifi so they could share the starlink connection I have as a backup so they could at least communicate with relatives without having to drive a few suburbs away to get phone reception again.

But I guess they are in the circle we created since COVID.

The point is, it's all about your priorities.

Ask me during the pandemic and I would have been all about community, doing what was right by me and my family, but also what was right where possible for those around us.

Ask me now, bugger em.

They won't lift a finger to help those around them and the proportion of people like that is so high, I'm done thinking about them and their needs, so bugger em.

We know, even with the vaccines that COVID isn't a mild respiratory virus and while I will do what is needed for myself and my family, I don't care about anyone outside my circle.

Not anymore.

I would agree with a lot of what you're saying about the CHO, but at the end of the day, I really find it hard to care about the rest of the people in the state. They have shown themselves unworthy of it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 2:36pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

I've had the exact same COVID experiences from the general public as you, and now my attitude to others is exactly the same as yours.

This is an excellent post, and I can't find a single point to disagree with.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 3:15pm

very interesting, is this guy more qualified then carl, skippy and pecca
this guy who says that covid is just another respiratory virus and there is nothing special called long covid?
this guy who says we dont need to collect stats becasue the virus has weakened?

are we to believe the science or 3 whacky conspiracy theorists ?

Dr John Gerrard, Chief Health Officer
BSc (Med) MB BS (Syd) MSc (Microbiology) DLSHTM DTM&H (Lon) FRACP

Dr Gerrard was appointed Chief Health Officer for Queensland Health in December 2021. He was the long-term Director of Infectious Diseases at the Gold Coast Hospital, where he was instrumental in the design the Gold Coast University Hospital, which has been at the front line of Queensland’s COVID-19 response.

A leading infectious disease specialist, Dr Gerrard identified Australia’s earliest known case of AIDS early in his career. He has since been involved in malaria vaccine trials and has worked internationally to strengthen pandemic preparedness, including travel to Sierra Leone during the 2014 West African Ebola epidemic, where he helped establish Australia’s first Ebola Treatment Centre. He was awarded the Australian Humanitarian Overseas Service Medal for this work.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 4:37pm

Yes.

Dr. John Gerrard.

This man:

Queenslanders told spread of COVID strain of Omicron is 'necessary' — what does that mean?

23 Dec 2021

Quote:

Queensland's new Chief Health Officer John Gerrard has been telling people this week the spread of COVID-19 in the Sunshine State is not only inevitable — it's "necessary".

Quote:

"In order for us to go from the pandemic phase to an endemic phase, the virus has to be widespread," Dr Gerrard said.

"We all have to have immunity [and] there's two ways you can do that – by being vaccinated or getting infected.

"Once we've done that, once the virus is spreading, once we all have some degree of immunity, the virus becomes endemic and that is what is going to happen."

The Health Minister is backing chief health officer John Gerrard, as a collection of respected scientists and clinicians makes an unprecedented call for his sacking, amid claims his office adopted an “unscientific let-it rip” approach to the Covid pandemic.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 4:49pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 4:37pm:

Yes.

Dr. John Gerrard.

This man:

Queenslanders told spread of COVID strain of Omicron is 'necessary' — what does that mean?

23 Dec 2021

Quote:

Queensland's new Chief Health Officer John Gerrard has been telling people this week the spread of COVID-19 in the Sunshine State is not only inevitable — it's "necessary".

[quote]"In order for us to go from the pandemic phase to an endemic phase, the virus has to be widespread," Dr Gerrard said.

"We all have to have immunity [and] there's two ways you can do that – by being vaccinated or getting infected.

"Once we've done that, once the virus is spreading, once we all have some degree of immunity, the virus becomes endemic and that is what is going to happen."

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 4:49pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 4:37pm:

Yes.

Dr. John Gerrard.

This man:

Queenslanders told spread of COVID strain of Omicron is 'necessary' — what does that mean?

23 Dec 2021

Quote:

Queensland's new Chief Health Officer John Gerrard has been telling people this week the spread of COVID-19 in the Sunshine State is not only inevitable — it's "necessary".

Admittedly, this was in the early days of the original Omicron variant and he obviously fell for the "Omicron is mild" BS but since when has it ever been a good idea to be (repeatedly) infected with a dangerous virus? Or any virus for that matter? Even if you've been vaccinated.

And, just recently:

Unprecedented calls to sack CHO over bombshell claims of ‘let it rip’ Covid approach

[quote]The Health Minister is backing chief health officer John Gerrard, as a collection of respected scientists and clinicians makes an unprecedented call for his sacking, amid claims his office adopted an “unscientific let-it rip” approach to the Covid pandemic.

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea.

That was a couple of months ago and Gerrard hasn't been sacked - and he won't be as long as he keeps saying what government and business want to hear, regardless of how many die or end up suffering from "Long Covid" (same as what's happening in the rest of Australia).

[/quote]

but he is the science that you and skippy and gweg say we must believe

as skippy says

"unless you have degrees like John Gerrard you should shut your mouth "
[/quote]

I can only speak for myself, but my point with the story time earlier, was that as we know more, my position has changed over time.

I've kept myself educated to the degree of what is needed to protect myself and my family.

I don't know enough about the risks to others outside of our categories, not the overall changes in the virus.

I'm trying to lead my life in the world as it is now.

Do I miss the before time, of course, but I'm also a realist and will live in the now.

I've gotten over the doom scrolling during COVID, seeking, then verifying any new information that came to hand.

That said, all this talk has me interested in knowing more about what the CHO has been advocating for, and why.

I'm not blessed with an abundance if free time to learn about that, despite the time I've spent on here lately haha...

It comes in waves, peaks and troughs, and I feel like I'm headed towards another break.

I come here to be exposed to views I don't hold to better understand why I hold them and if I need to reevaluate.

The level of racism and overall stupidity that is common place around here, one can only take so much.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:38pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

What does your critical thinking skills deduce about a virus that

99.9% of its victims recover?
60% of its victims are completely asymptomatic ?
80% of its elderly victims also recover?
80% of its victims report zero to moderate symptoms?

And, it has been this way for the last 4 years.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:41pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Those statistics will give great comfort to the family members of the 7,010,681 people who have died from COVID so far.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:37pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Correct, but I'm not talking about now with hindsight, I'm talking about what it was like in the beginning with all the unknowns at the time.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:40pm

Hey, here's some more of aquascoot's awesome "personal responsibility" (that's sarcasm, by the way) on display (not Dr. Michalak but everyone else on the plane) and the main reason why we're swimming in never ending Covid (and flu, RSV, etc.) soup.

https://x.com/drbecs/status/1802117719430775138

Quote:

International flight, 35 rows deep, many ‘spicy’ coughs about the place, not a single other mask in sight. Silly that everyone makes a pre-check-in declaration they ‘aren’t infectious or unwell’ when someone can cough up a lung when boarding and @qantas just waves them onboard 🙄

Yes, it is silly, isn't it? And fatal for over 7 million people worldwide so far.

But quite understandable when money is all the airlines (and other businesses) are concerned about.

And those pre-check-in declarations that they ‘aren’t infectious or unwell’ are obviously not worth the paper they're written on.

Just like that International Covenant which Australia is a signatory to that I post about from time to time and our own Federal and State governments' Health Acts.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:26am

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

when you are the only one masking up on an international flight
and you call the other 499 people insane
i think you need to look in the mirror and own your "narcissistic personality disorder"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 7:45am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:26am:

when you are the only one masking up on an international flight
and you call the other 499 people insane
i think you need to look in the mirror and own your "narcissistic personality disorder"

I'm not really sure what that has to do with what I've posted?

Perhaps Clippy could give you a hand in future?

Carry on...

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 8:02am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:26am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

when you are the only one masking up on an international flight
and you call the other 499 people insane
i think you need to look in the mirror and own your "narcissistic personality disorder"

Thankfully my last flight to Singapore a few weeks ago saw the vast majority of people wearing masks.

The flight back not so much.

The flight there looked like mostly Singaporeans going home, where as the flight back to Brisbane was more Asutralians.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 9:26am

Anyway... what I would really, really like to know is...

... if SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory illness" as aquascoot and others keep telling us then why is it that every time there is an "economic conference" or similar where the rich and powerful meet they always have to take PCR tests before they can attend?

Including the latest one in St. Petersburg earlier this month.

Plus other Covid safety measures.

And I'm sure the airconditioning systems were upgraded too (lots of air changes per hour, filters to the max, etc.). Just like the pollies worldwide have done, even here in Australia with Parliament House in Canberra and probably all of the States and Territories as well.

Not the sort of measures one would expect to see for a "mild respiratory virus", are they?

And I'm also pretty sure they never used to do this for other respiratory illnesses like the flu in the past.

Anyone care to explain? aquascoot? Hello?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 9:38am

* waits for the conspiracy answers...

Edit: didn't realise * actually does something here...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:41pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Those statistics will give great comfort to the family members of the 7,010,681 people who have died from COVID so far.

It is flippant, and a gross misrepresentation of my comments. I have never implied that these stats COULD give comfort to the family and friends, who've lost love-ones, with/from covid-19. That would be cruel and insensitive!

These stats were meant to give comfort to those infected, to the hundreds of millions of survivors, and to the billions of people around the world who've never been infected.

These stats were also meant to give perspective and context to the media's selective information campaign. I don't want to spread fear and anxiety. Just to sell more papers!

But lets look at the world's stats in context. As of April 13, 2024.

704,753,890 Covid-19 cases
7,919,681     Deaths WITH/FROM covid-19(no specifics added).
675,619,811   Covid-19 recoveries
1.1%             Worldwide case mortality rate

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Clearly this disease is NOT the species-ending diseases it was hyped up to be!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:43pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:41pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 5:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 17^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:

education system or indoctrination system ::) ::)

Those statistics will give great comfort to the family members of the 7,010,681 people who have died from COVID so far.

Who used that term?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 6:34pm

Months after being diagnosed with COVID-19, one in five people are still suffering from symptoms, new research finds

One in five adults infected with COVID-19 may still be suffering its effects months after their diagnosis, according to new research out of the United States.

An investigation by more than two dozen researchers found while the average time of recovery was 20 days, an estimated 22.5 per cent failed to recover 90 days after infection.

Vaccination prior to infection and infection during the Omicron variant wave were associated with greater recovery … results were similar for reinfections.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

1 in 5 chodes , when asked

"do you feel tired or have headaches"
"do you prefer to get around in your pyjamas then go to work

said

YES

i'm surprised its not 4 in 5 reporting these vague non specific symptoms ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Super Nova on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 9:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

My smell and taste was effected for 6 months after i got it about 9 months ago.

People die of the flu every year. Covid is here to stay and it will take some of us every year until AI designs a solution.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Who used that term?

I used this term! I can use another synonym if you like. But I think you get the gist. This media-manufactured hype just didn't exist in reality.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

At least the researchers were honest enough to vet their own results. They are basically telling us that there may be errors in their results.

"The research team noted the results may have been limited by the self-reported recovery time and the "potential for measurement error, uncontrolled confounding and selection bias".

Again, we are talking about the research study results done in the US. NOT IN AUSTRALIA! The researchers here have stated that their results are "similar". Does this mean less than one in five? Or, more than one in five?

Even Dr. Gerrard has stated that the term "Long Covid" should be scrapped. And, he explains why.

"Using this term long COVID implies this virus has some unique, exceptional and sinister property that differentiates it from other viruses," Dr John Gerrard said.".

Nothing in this virus makes its properties more exceptional than any other coronaviruses.

But let me ask you just one question, which will make everything about "Long Covid" mute. Out of the almost 12M cases of Covid-19 in Australia since 25 Jan. 2020, just how many Australians have actually died from "Long Covid"??

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 11:35pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Even Dr. Gerrard has stated that the term "Long Covid" should be scrapped. And, he explains why.

"Using this term long COVID implies this virus has some unique, exceptional and sinister property that differentiates it from other viruses," Dr John Gerrard said.".

Yes. Yes he did.

And then this happened...

Queensland health apologises over Long Covid comments

Quote:

Queensland Health has apologised over any distress caused by comments made by the state's Chief Health Officer calling for the term ‘Long Covid' to be scrapped. John Gerrard earlier this month said that identifying Covid as a sinister or unique virus was “doing more harm than good”.

Quote:

Queensland's Acting Chief Health Officer this weekend apologised for the distress caused by the research, telling 9News in a statement that it wasn't the intention. Gerrard could not be reached for comment.

No, of course he couldn't. No surprise there. ::)

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

But let me ask you just one question, which will make everything about "Long Covid" mute. Out of the almost 12M cases of Covid-19 in Australia since 25 Jan. 2020, just how many Australians have actually died from "Long Covid"??

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:57am

Carl D wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 11:35pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Yes. Yes he did.

And then this happened...

Queensland health apologises over Long Covid comments

Quote:

[quote]Queensland's Acting Chief Health Officer this weekend apologised for the distress caused by the research, telling 9News in a statement that it wasn't the intention. Gerrard could not be reached for comment.

No, of course he couldn't. No surprise there. ::)

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 6:30am

Carl D wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 11:35pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Yes. Yes he did.

And then this happened...

Queensland health apologises over Long Covid comments

Quote:

No, of course he couldn't. No surprise there. ::)

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 8:01am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:57am:

Dr. Gerrard only apologized because it was politically correct to do so. NOT because he was scientifically incorrect. Telling people the truth about "long covid" would be politically incorrect.

And, good luck with the numbers of deaths, that can be DIRECTLY attributed to "long covid".

Dr. Gerrard didn't apologise.

Dr. Gerrard has NEVER apologised for any of the mistakes he's made about Covid since becoming Queensland's CHO nearly 3 years ago.

Mistakes that have largely contributed to the deaths of 3,700 Queenslanders so far since Queensland (like the rest of the country) "opened up and let it (Covid) rip".

Queensland's Acting Chief Health Officer apologised on his behalf (actually, it was on behalf of Queensland Health and not Gerrard himself because Gerrard "could not be reached for comment". I believe that in itself is significant because I'm sure the Acting CHO would have been in big trouble with Gerrard if the apology had been made on his behalf and especially if it was made without Gerrard knowing about it).

Apparently Gerrard went on holidays shortly after making his Long Covid comments - how convenient.

And, yes - it would be "good luck" with finding out the numbers of deaths that can be DIRECTLY attributed to "Long Covid" because it's like 'getting blood out of stone' finding out the number of actual Covid deaths these days - except the deaths in aged care. And I'm sure we won't be seeing those for too much longer (but the deaths won't be stopping, of course).

aquascoot wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 6:30am:

2 million and rising

BULL poo ::) ::)

Prevalence of ongoing symptoms following coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in the UK: 30 March 2023

Quote:

An estimated 1.9 million people living in private households in the UK (2.9% of the population) were experiencing self-reported long COVID (symptoms continuing for more than four weeks after the first confirmed or suspected coronavirus (COVID-19) infection that were not explained by something else) as of 5 March 2023

This is the latest release
30 March 2023

Nearly a year and a half old and no new releases since.

No surprise there - just like Australia is now doing the UK has been slowly but steadily 'hiding' the increasing case numbers, deaths and now Long Covid cases.

Might actually be 3 or 4 million UK Long Covid cases by now if their government (like ours) didn't lack the intestinal fortitude to release an up to date report.

And...

Every COVID Infection Increases Your Risk of Long COVID, Study Warns

Dec 27, 2023

Quote:

“Each subsequent COVID infection will increase your risk of developing chronic health issues like diabetes, kidney disease, organ failure and even mental health problems,” physician Rambod Rouhbakhsh warned journalist Sara Berg in an American Medical Association podcast earlier this year.

“This dispels the myth that repeated brushes with the virus are mild and you don’t have to worry about it. It is akin to playing Russian roulette.”

Quote:

The adverse health effects from two infections are worse than one, and three infections worse than two, the researchers explain. This means long COVID is cumulative, at least within this group of people and with this number of re-infections.

As their research is only based on US veterans affairs patients, it may not translate to everyone, but this is not the only study to find this concerning trend.

A study with much broader sampling involving people aged 18 and over across 10 Canadian provinces points to the same conclusion.

No wonder governments worldwide have taken a 'vow of silence' regarding Covid nowadays.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:08pm

carl

you are a silly billy.

most people nowadays eat a totally processed diet of pure garbage
they couldnt walk up 6 flights of stairs
they sit on the couch and binge watch netflix
they drink and smoke pot

they are , of course, going to suffer depression, chronic tiredness, fatigue, body aches and pains because of their garbage lifestyle

now YOU come along and tell them they can blame ALL THESE THINGS on covid (which nearly everyone has had) and not have to blame their own garbage lifestyle for their garbage health

of course they are going to take you up on the offer

smart people like John Gerrard tell them to piss off with their lies.

YOU are an ENABLER

shame on you

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:25pm

I can see aquascoot's struggling to come up with something to refute what I've posted.

Again.

I don't think he actually reads any of the articles that I post links to.

That's how one should be staying informed, reading articles from real medical people, not charlatans like John Gerrard who will only tell you what the government and big business want him to say.

Speaking of being informed - I like the latest comeback I saw posted by someone on X (formerly Twitter) the other day for when someone asks them why they're still wearing a mask:

Random unmasked person: "Why are you still wearing a mask, are you living in fear?"

Masked person:"I'm not living in fear - I'm living informed."

Can't wait to use that one myself if and when someone is brave enough to ask why I'm still masking in shops, etc. (no one has so far).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

true

people tend to steer clear of weirdos

i notice you have called dr gerard a charlatan, yet again

have you read his cv

Dr Gerrard has a long track record of research into emerging infectious diseases and vaccine development.

He was recognised for ground-breaking research into the emergence of AIDS in Australia and honoured with the Humanitarian Overseas Service medal for his work in confronting the Ebola outbreak in West Africa in 2014.

Dr Gerrard was the medical specialist lead in two separate international COVID responses – one aboard the Diamond Princess in Japan in February 2020 and the other in the Dutch Antilles in early 2021.

He was instrumental in designing the Gold Coast University Hospital to manage patients with highly infectious viruses like COVID.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:18pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 11:35pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Yes. Yes he did.

And then this happened...

Queensland health apologises over Long Covid comments

Quote:

No, of course he couldn't. No surprise there. ::)

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 18^th, 2024 at 10:54pm:

The issue here isn't how many have died from "Long Covid". The issue is how many have been so badly affected by it causing many of them to be no longer able to work (or shop and take holidays, etc.) to support the pollies' precious economy.

I don't know the number for Australia at the moment but right now in the UK it's about 2 million people and rising.[/quote]

In the UK, if Covid-19 is listed as one of the causes on your death certificate, then you died of Covid-19. The primary cause of death becomes irrelevant. This includes those who had not been tested for the virus prior to their death.

In other words, if you're brought into the hospital without a head, and you test positive for Covid-19, you'll be counted as a covid-19 death. Not sure where you got the 2M deaths and counting from. As of April 13, 2024 there have been,

24,910,387 Covid-19 cases
22,954,691 Covid-19 recoveries
232,112 Covid-19 related deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk

The issue and only issue here, is the mortality rate of this disease. The numbers of those infected is huge, but so are the numbers of recoveries.

Although I'm certain that there is at least ONE person, who may have died directly from "long covid". I can't find it. However, finding covid-related deaths and cases is everywhere.

I agree that the negative impact of "long covid" on the economy is very real. But it pales in comparison with the damage done to the economy, by the governments useless and ineffective policies.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:39pm

Yes, Dr. John Gerrard does have some impressive qualifications.

And, if he wasn't being 'manipulated' by Steven 'Giggles' Miles (and Annastacia Palaszczuk before him) I'm sure Dr. Gerrard would have used his qualifications to improve peoples' health instead of doing something like this:

Queenslanders told spread of COVID strain of Omicron is 'necessary'

And this:

Queensland chief health officer confirms COVID-19 wave, but says mask mandate would be 'disproportionate'

And a few more that I can't be bothered looking for at the moment.

I mean, a man with his impressive medical qualifications must know that SARS-CoV-2 was (and still is) classified as a Level 3 Biohazard, shouldn't he?

I don't have any medical qualifications but I do know what this virus is and what it is capable of doing (and has been doing for over 4 years now).

But, I'm also not being manipulated by stupid politicians (and big business) like Dr. Gerrard is.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:52pm

so carl knows better then dr gerrard?

talk about deluded ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

so carl knows better then dr gerrard?

talk about deluded ::) ::) ::)

*sigh*

I believe it's time to give up. Way past time, actually.

What I do know is - I could probably have a more intelligent and productive discussion with the average preschooler than I'm having here with you right now.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

Keep on fighting the good fight Carl!

I, at least, appreciate it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 8:31pm

vaccine injured speak out:

Jun 17, 2024

Just a few days ago Kara was in Canberra to give us her testimony in our Excess Mortality inquiry.
The United Australia Party will keep pushing this issue until those responsible are held accountable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cPwSSa-s88

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 5:09am

i would consider the number of vaccine cripples to be the same as the number of long covid cripples

very very small and insignificiant

covids main damage was to peoples fear centres in the brain

turning a mild respiratory illness or a mild jab in the arm into some sort of boogey man

its childish behaviour

fear of the unknown

i bet all these people are afriad of the dark ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:38am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Keep on fighting the good fight Carl!

I, at least, appreciate it.

Thanks JM.

But, it is getting more and more difficult trying to talk some sense into people like...

... aquascoot on the one hand who is either totally ignorant or just trolling.

... and Bobby on the other hand who seems to have gone so far down the rabbit hole of antivaxxer conspiracy nonsense that I doubt he is ever going to be able to find his way out.

But, I'll make the effort to keep "fighting the good fight".

And I also appreciate the efforts of SadKangaroo and greggerypeccary. Thanks guys.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 12:34pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:38am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Keep on fighting the good fight Carl!

I, at least, appreciate it.

totally ignorant for defending the highly qualifed qld chief health officer who holds multiple degrees in infectious diseases

and carl who defends a guy who was reprimanded by the medical board for lying on social media (dr berger)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you cant make this stuff up

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 12:34pm:

you cant make this stuff up

Well, apparently you can because you've just done it.

As usual.

:D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:29pm

LOL, poor Scoot, giving Booby a run for “Biggest idiot of OzPol.”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:35pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:38am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Keep on fighting the good fight Carl!

I, at least, appreciate it.

There's something else I just don't understand.

When the government was creating legislation to violate the peoples' civil liberties and privacy, you supported their actions.

When the government mandated that people keep 2 meters apart, and must wear masks outdoors(even while driving), you supported their actions.

When the government told the members of the Healthcare, Building and Construction, and Education industries that they all must be vaccinated, or look for another job, you supported their actions.

When the government mandated people to carry and present Covid-19 status cards, in order to enter shops, businesses, theaters, or even to dine out, you totally supported their actions.

When the government told people that wearing masks and being vaccinated WOULD prevent them from becoming infected, you believed their every word.

When the government was fining and arresting people for not wearing masks(or distancing), and the states started hiring thugs to break-up private parties and home gatherings, you still supported their actions.

When the government was fining, and closing down thousands of small businesses for medical non-compliance, you still supported their actions!

When the government started initiating curfews in certain communities, and designated other coommunites as "hot spots", you supported their actions.

When the government closed down our national/international borders, you agreed with and supported their actions.

When the government used taxpayer's money to builld covid-19 detention centers and other holding facilities, you still supported their actions.

Even when the government's lies, misinformation, and omissions were exposed, you still stuck by the government.

SO, WHY AREN'T YOU STILL SUPPORTING, AND PARROTING THEIR NEW DIRECTION NOW?!!!

This is a real disease. And, it can be fatal to people in the high-risk categories. But a simple cold/flu can also be fatal to them.

The government realized that its restrictive policies were doing more harm to the nation, than this virus ever could! And, that nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:41pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

... nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!

When was the last time you met someone with polio?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:42pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

LOL, poor Scoot, giving Booby a run for “Biggest idiot of OzPol.”

most "real" ausrtralians consider carl to be a cult leader about as reputable as david koresh :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:48pm

You mean—other idiots like you?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:48pm:

You mean—other idiots like you?

are you calling 99.9 % of the population idiots?

your cult leader was sooking because 500 of the 501 people on a plane werent wearing masks.

that makes you and carl members of a very small weird cult

yuk :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 5:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

most "real" ausrtralians consider carl to be a cult leader about as reputable as david koresh :'( :'(

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:56pm:

makingstuffup.jpg (72 KB | 1 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:57pm

hi there david

are you and the branch davidians staying safe ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

... nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!

When was the last time you met someone with polio?

Smallpox is the only infectiuos diease that the WHO has declared totally eradicated. ONE down, and many more infectious diseases to go!

Not since the early 2000 has anyone in Oz has had polio. But the poliovirus still exist in Pakistan and Afghanistan. So, unless an infected person from these countries comes to Australia, poops or spits in your coffee, you've got nothing to worry about.

It is a testament to genius of Jonas Salk. The vaccine he used is made up of inactive REAL polioviruses. NOT this lab-created coded mRNA strand, that forces normal cells to make viral antigens.

But even if I did meet a person in Oz infected with polio, I still wouldn't worry. Only 0.5% of ALL those infected become paralized. And, only 10-20% of those paralyzed will die. In fact, Polio has a case mortality rate even less than Covid-19, measles, mumps, smallpox, and the common flu. So again not to worry!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:50pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

... nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!

When was the last time you met someone with polio?

Smallpox is the only infectiuos diease that the WHO has declared totally eradicated.

Ah.

So, you retract this statement?

"nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

... nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!

When was the last time you met someone with polio?

Smallpox is the only infectiuos diease that the WHO has declared totally eradicated.

Ah.

So, you retract this statement?

"nothing man can do will stop people from being infected by a virus!"

When I say infected, I mean when any virus decides to use you as a host. It goes up your nose/mouth and finds a favorite cell to infect. There is nothing we can do to stop this. Unless all citzens are wearing special clothing all the time.

We may not be able to prevent being infected. But, we can prevent the illness

But if you have the proper antibodies(from vaccines), then the infection WON'T PROGRESS TO BECOME THE DISEASE!

That is what I mean by becoming infected. Viruses are smaller than the visible wavelength of light. How do you suggest we prevent viruses from infecting us?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:48am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:00am:

When I say infected, I mean when any virus decides to use you as a host. It goes up your nose/mouth and finds a favorite cell to infect.

Indeed.

So, why do you think the 'best advice' from our governments and health departments (apart from getting vaccinated which doesn't stop you being infected and infecting others) is to wash and sanitise your hands and cough and sneeze into your hand or elbow?

Why no mention of wearing (high quality) masks? Or any type of mask at all?

Perhaps it's because masks are a very visible reminder that we're still in the middle of a pandemic and that 'upsets' businesses and the economy in general?

And I am also 100% certain that our governments are now too gutless to try and reinstate mask mandates anywhere or even recommend wearing them. Even if they wanted to - which they obviously don't.

Someone said last year that a study should be done to try and find out why masks seem to be the equivalent of poison in this country (and most western countries). I believe I've already posted the answer to that - see above.

Quote:

How do you suggest we prevent viruses from infecting us?

Well, not by endlessly washing and sanitising your hands and shopping trolley handles and coughing and sneezing into your hand or elbow.

And certainly not by doing things like this (taken by me at Belmont Forum shopping centre last September - and it's still there, by the way):

IMG_20230906_101437_001.jpg (105 KB | 5 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 4:55am

other people take pics of their grandkids

carl takes photos of the escalators at belmont shopping centre

and carl thinks everyone else is a weirdo

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 7:09am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 4:55am:

other people take pics of their grandkids

carl takes photos of the escalators at belmont shopping centre

and carl thinks everyone else is a weirdo

Your posts still tend to make me believe you could be working for some obscure government department responsible for spreading misinformation/disinformation and providing general distractions about this pandemic (in between selling $2 bags of horse manure).

But, the main problem I have with that theory is you're still not very good at it. Hopeless, in fact.

Mind you, there is still the chance that it could be true because, after all, being hopeless and incompetent seems to be one of the main qualifcations for working in government (especially politicians and public "servants") these days.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 2:03pm

so the government the public service and politicians are all in on the conspiracy and only carl knows the truth

you sound like alex jones :D :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 2:25pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:48am:

Because any other advice would be a lie! How can you enforce masking and distancing? Will it eventually become the new dystopia, where we shoot/arrest all violators on sight?

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:48am:

Why no mention of wearing (high quality) masks? Or any type of mask at all?

Perhaps it's because masks are a very visible reminder that we're still in the middle of a pandemic and that 'upsets' businesses and the economy in general?

Masks are not poison. I think the most obvious answer is, MASK DON'T WORK! In theory or in practice.

Masks were NOT designed to prevent tiny viruses from infecting us.
Masts were NOT designed to fit all faces perfectly.
Wearers can still breathe in LARGE pathogens from the sides and the top of the mask.
Pathogens can enter through the eyes and into the tear ducts.
Masks need to be taken off when eating, drinking, or sleeping.
Masks can't prevent the wearer from infecting others.
For many, masks can make breathing difficult.

I think that the wearing of masks has indeed had a very negative impact on our economy. And on our society in general. So, yes it would be prudent and logical that the government never make this same mistakes again.

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:48am:

And I am also 100% certain that our governments are now too gutless to try and reinstate mask mandates anywhere or even recommend wearing them. Even if they wanted to - which they obviously don't.

Why would the government reinstate its own failed policies?? Especially when they don't work. How does the government reconcile the fact, that people are still being infected and dying, in spite of all their mandates, closures and restrictions??

Why would you want to enslave your own people again? Forever! This would be an insane thing to do. Unless you are a true misanthrope!

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 12:48am:

The question was not what you WOULDN'T do. But what you WOULD do to prevent people from becoming infected?!

If the government was serious in stopping infections, it would issue us all self-contained Hazmat suits. Which must be worn at all times, forever!

All this, for a disease with a CMR of less than 1% for the last 4 years? Do you think that we're all going to die, if we do nothing about this disease? Do you think there's no medical treatment for this disease?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 3:34pm

Pssst... I'll let you in on a little secret.

Masks DO work.

Masks like K95's, P2's, KN95's, etc. that is.

And only if they're fitted properly.

The masks that DON'T work are 'baggy blue' surgicals (although they are better than nothing) which I saw most people wearing when we had mask mandates nearly 3 years ago... and they especially don't work when a large number of the 'baggy bluers' were wearing their masks under their noses and chins all the time.

The ones that especially amused me were the ones walking around shopping centres for ages with a drink bottle or a paper coffee cup (probably empty) in their hands and their 'baggy blues' under their chins so they could take advantage of the 'rule' that said you don't have to wear a mask when you're eating or drinking.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 4:07pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Simply saying that something is true, does NOT make it so! Exactly how do you eat or drink while wearing a mask? YOU CAN'T!! So being allowed to do this is just allowing for the obvious!

No mask can fit anyone perfectly. If you have facial hair, or any open gaps in the fit, pathogens can enter. Masks are marginally better than covering your mouth and nose with your hands, when you sneeze or cough.

Even if mask did prevent infections in 100% of cases, do we then start covering the eyes?

I've given you specific reasons why masks(regardless of grade/type) don't prevent people from being infected. Maybe you can provide the specifics why masks do work?!

Again, what are your suggestions to prevent people from being infected with this mild flu-like virus? Just how far, and how long are you willing to go for the common good? NO LIMIT???

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 5:23pm

Meanwhile (and I am sure that aquascoot and ShellShilo think this is perfectly normal) there has been another 59 Covid deaths in Australian aged care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1804021987007942858

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 20 June 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,737 (-306)
🔹Active outbreaks: 453 (-7)
🔹Residents: 2,724 (-115)
🔹Staff: 1,013 (-191)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 610 (+59)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1804021989163831708

Quote:

🔸6,736 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸610 reported deaths in 2024

I'm sure if there was a bus crash today resulting in the deaths of 59 elderly people it would be front page news around the country and on every TV news bulletin (and another photo op for Albanese).

And we'd no doubt be seeing and hearing about it for at least a week.

59 Covid deaths in aged care.... chirping crickets.

Same as the more than 100 aged care deaths in the previous 3 weeks.

Needless to say (once again)... the majority of the Australian population have no idea what's happening with all of these aged care deaths... just the way the pollies, big business and the media want it.

Disgraceful stuff.

I (and the very few other people who are aware of this carnage) thought Australia was better than this. Sadly, we were mistaken.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 3:08pm

Covid?

This guy wants to hang all the politicians - LOL
He's had enough - he wants to line them all up and punch the bugger out of them.
Does he have anger management problems?

Video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:24am

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 5:23pm:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1804021989163831708

[quote]🔸6,736 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸610 reported deaths in 2024

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:39am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 3:08pm:

You can really find some characters, Bobby. This guy is embellishing how much concern he had for this specific virus. I don't really blame the guy for how he feels about the exaggerated seriousness of the WuhanFlu. But, he could have worded it to a style without making empty threats of killing politicians.

I wonder what has happened recently that gets him upset. I managed to get through the last 4 years relatively unscathed. Whilst you guys were buying up toilet paper from the supermarkets, we had our supermarket supplies in stock a good month after you guys started panic buying. It was just a matter of wearing a mask when you went out in public for the time period about 2 weeks at most.

The guy needs to get over himself.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 6:30am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:24am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 21^st, 2024 at 5:23pm:

I assume there must be a reason for keeping everyone informed that 5(avg) elderly resident of nursing homes, and aged care facilities, are dying each day. Throughout all of Australia.

What would you suggest we do to stop the elderly from dying in these facilities??
[/quote]

carl wants legislation to outlaw death
anything less is a government cop out.

there should be huge fines for nursing homes when a "living gem" dies

the loving children who dumped them there need answers .

heaven forbid they took some "personal responsibility" for looking after the elderly.

nope

they shut them away to cure thier own severe death anxiety and then virtue signal by crying crocodile tears when a kind virus ends their decay.

this "outrage" is about salving the guilt of the ones who "granny dumped"

it has nothing to do with the quality of life of the elderly.

how do we know?

less then1/2 of the elderly in nursing homes have allowed themselves to be vaccine boosted in the last 12 months

unlike carl, they accept the inevitability of death and want a peaceful death, not a horrible slow deacy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 8:01am

I see it took nearly two days for our main two 'death and disease apologists' to come up with some sort of replies to my last post about the disgrace of the continuing (and escalating) Covid deaths in Australian aged care.

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:24am:

What would you suggest we do to stop the elderly from dying in these facilities??

How about they start to do SOMETHING as opposed to the NOTHING that they're doing right now?

"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

Mandatory masks (not baggy blue surgicals) worn properly - not under the nose or chin, testing for all residents, staff and visitors and isolation for positive cases as well as making sure everyone is up to date with their vaccinations would be a good start.

Which brings me to:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 6:30am:

less then1/2 of the elderly in nursing homes have allowed themselves to be vaccine boosted in the last 12 months

Well, 'death and disease apologist' #1 (although it is a close contest between you and ShellShilo but you're still in the lead so far), let me try to explain this to you again - the main reason why the elderly in nursing homes (and the majority of the Australian population) are not up to date with their Covid (and flu) vaccinations is because our governments have managed to convince almost everyone that the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is over and it's now just another 'normal' cold or flu. Which it isn't, of course.

The 'antivaxxer' and 'antimasker' brigades (and there's a lot of these in our healthcare systems too) also have a lot to do with this.

How many times do I have to keep repeating all of this?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 8:03am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Covid?

This guy wants to hang all the politicians - LOL
He's had enough - he wants to line them all up and punch the bugger out of them.
Does he have anger management problems?

Video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

I thought it was funny video. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 9:01am

By the way, 'death and disease apologist' #1 (that's you aquascoot)...

... is there any chance we could get to see proof that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus" as you keep claiming?

I'm not really in a hurry to see it (because it doesn't exist) but it has been quite a while since I asked.

And, while you're here... perhaps you could find out why the rich and powerful need to have PCR tests (no unreliable RATs for them) and other Covid protections every time they've had one of their "economic conferences" while the rest of us are left to swim in Covid soup?

As I said... no hurry. But sometime before the end of this year would be great.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:38pm

sure,

its MILD.

a MILD football injury like a slightly sprained ankle puts you out of action for a week
(as opposed to a nasty injury like an ACL that puts you our for a year).

a MILD virus like covid puts you out of action for a week (for many people MUCH LESS :D :D)
(as opposed to a nasty illness like hepatitis or meningitis which might lay you up for much more)

covid is MILD by any definition.

its so mild its often asymptomatic

it only bothers the severely frail and those with terrible lifestyle choices (the obese for example)

if you are young and take personal responsibility , its a nothing burger
if you are very old and just lingering and slowly decaying, its a gift.

only those with a very large ego think they have the right to live forever

big ego = big suffering

maybe try to shrink your ego and sense of self importance carl

maybe stop worrying about your own self and think about all those teenagers harmed by lockdown to keep YOU safe

a little bit of gratitude would be in order ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:50pm

Oh, look...here's more evidence that Covid isn't "mild" or "just a cold".

The relationship between SARS-CoV-2 infection and type 1 diabetes mellitus

Quote:

Key points

Epidemiological studies and meta-analyses reported an increase in the incidence of type 1 diabetes mellitus during the COVID-19 pandemic as well as an association between SARS-CoV-2 infection and the risk of new-onset type 1 diabetes mellitus.

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), transmembrane serine protease 2 (TMPRSS2) and alternative receptors of SARS-CoV-2 have been identified in several human cell types, including pancreatic islet β-cells.

SARS-CoV-2 proteins are detected in both exocrine and endocrine cells (including β-cells) of post-mortem pancreas samples from patients with COVID-19 and in samples from non-human primates intranasally or intratracheally infected with SARS-CoV-2.

SARS-CoV-2 can infect and replicate in pancreatic β-cells ex vivo, resulting in structural and functional alterations of these cells.

Pro-inflammatory cytokines produced during SARS-CoV-2 infection can impair human pancreatic islet function.

SARS-CoV-2 infection might promote islet autoimmunity through various mechanisms, including bystander activation of T cells, disruption of peripheral tolerance, viral persistence, molecular mimicry and activation of endogenous human retroviruses.

And I'm sure this will also be ignored by our governments... and our resident 'death and disease apologists'.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 2:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 8:03am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 3:08pm:

I thought it was funny video. :)

He seemed serious.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 2:49pm

Now, let's see... who should I believe?

Is it:

(a) Real medical experts who are releasing study after study which shows SARS-CoV-2 isn't a "mild respiratory virus" or "just a cold". And it's not just the elderly dying and suffering.

Or:

(b) A farmer living in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: 10) who sells $2 bags of horse manure (and posts more of it on OzPolitic every day).

Hmm... tough choice. :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 3:45pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:

Oh, look...here's more evidence that Covid isn't "mild" or "just a cold".

The relationship between SARS-CoV-2 infection and type 1 diabetes mellitus

Quote:

And I'm sure this will also be ignored by our governments... and our resident 'death and disease apologists'.

Based on the weekly, monthly, or even yearly case mortality rates of covid-19 alone, this is clearly a very mild flu.

Based on the reported number of asymptomatic carriers(60% of cases) who were unaware that they were infected, this is clearly a very mild flu.

Based of the severity of the symptoms reported(80% from zero to mild), this is clearly a very mild flu.

These stats have been consistent for the last 4 years. What is YOUR evidence that would suggest, that Covid-19 is anything BUT a mild form of the flu??

Clearly you do not understand the role of the ACE2 receptor sites(which are all over the body), including the beta cells in the pancreas(produce insulin), or the function of the immune system.

Why is there an autoimmune response in the Beta cells? What other biochemical pathways contribute to type 1 diabetes? What does peripheral tolerance, human retroviruses, or pro-inflammatory cytokines mean? What do the T-cells(lymphocytes) do?

The problem with blindly accepting what experts say, is that you don't know when, or if their wrong. Sometimes it only takes a little research, and a little common sense to find the truth.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 4:35pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 2:49pm:

who to believe

a an old codger from perth with no qualifications

b a qld state health officer with 3 medical degrees

Hmm....tough choice ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 5:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:50pm:

Oh, look...here's more evidence that Covid isn't "mild" or "just a cold".

The relationship between SARS-CoV-2 infection and type 1 diabetes mellitus

My interaction with a lady with type 1 diabetes.... on facebook.... was one where she said that her insulin medication was about as useful as injecting water. She was sick for quite a long time because of covid.

As a type 2 diabetic, if I caught the virus, I would probably be sicker than many people who have no diabetic conditions. Dad is a type 2 diabetic. When he caught covid, he described it as a heavy cold.

Whenever I catch influenza, it takes me 2 weeks to recover. The first week, I am in a bad state of health. I get to kill off the virus with lemon water. Then the second week is the recovery stage where I am just mucousy for a while waiting for the taste and smell to return. Normally, I don't eat all that much during the influenza. I can lose quite a bit of weight during that stage. But the diabetes limits how quickly I recover.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 6:46pm

Here's some more of what aquascoot's "mild respiratory virus" is doing to people.

With a bit of that awesome "personal responsibility" thrown in for good measure.

This is in the UK (where it's summer, of course) but it also applies to Australia and most of the rest of the world these days.

https://x.com/voidscream101/status/1804163670059917743

Quote:

I've been working as a receptionist at a UK GP surgery for nearly a year now. Here are some observations about recurrent trends/problems I've noticed 🧵 (1/)

Here's the rest of it for those without an X account:

Quote:

• So many people call with unshakeable flu-like symptoms. Some have been ill for 4+ weeks straight without improving. Most at this point are demanding antibiotics and often they get them.

• People with unshakeable illnesses aren't generally old or chronically ill. (2/)

Quote:

They're usually 20-50 with no underlying conditions. Often they proudly tell you how fit and healthy they normally are.

• Many calling with nasty coughs, fevers, body pain etc. But they can't take a GP call right now as they're at work/at a restaurant/the cinema/shopping (3/)

Quote:

• See also: patients desperately trying to get medication from the GP for their clearly infectious illness because "they're flying abroad tomorrow".

• So many under 40s call asking for a "general health check up" (which is only offered to over 40s) (4/)

Quote:

and when you dig deeper they tell you they haven't been feeling quite right and they're tired all the time.

• Lots of people report they've been getting "more colds than usual" in the past year or so. They think it means they have a deficiency and ask for blood tests. (5/)

Quote:

• So many kids ill constantly. Babies who have been ill for more than half their short lives. Possibly one of the most heartbreaking things.

• A small but notable number of "sudden behaviour changes" in children under 10 that makes you wonder. (6/)

Quote:

But yes, of course theyve been ill recently. Kids are always ill.

• Just as many calls for flu-like and gastrointestinal symptoms are coming through now as in the middle of winter. This stuff just isn't seasonal anymore (and is almost definitely covid in a lot of cases). (7/)

Quote:

• Many people haven't tested for covid when you ask.

• A fair number don't think it can be covid unless they lose their taste/smell.

• Those that have tested, tested once on first day of symptoms and are certain that means it isn't covid. (8/)

Quote:

• Care homes reporting "virus outbreaks" but say they have no Covid tests when you ask if they've tested.

• Patients telling me now in June, A+E is "busier than it ever was during Covid" with patients waiting 8+ hours just to get a seat, let alone be seen by a doctor. (9/)

Quote:

• Patients calling up desperate and in tears because they just can't concentrate or remember anything and their boss is yelling at them and they don't understand why this is happening. It must be stress right? (10/)

Quote:

• Any female patient over 40 calling with classic long covid symptoms puts it down to the menopause. Even if they're 60 and have already been through it.

• Patients who (ironically) don't remember to mention they've been having memory problems (11/)

Quote:

until you ask when they call up with other potential long covid symptoms- fatigue, brain fog, recurrent headaches etc.

• A lot of hair loss- a seriously surprising amount. And usually it's the young people - teens to 30s - who call. (12/)

Quote:

Presumably because older people assume it's old age. More than half of the sudden hair loss people I've spoken to can recall having a "nasty cold" in the few weeks beforehand.

• So many people with any new, ongoing respiratory symptoms (13/)

Quote:

e.g. cough, shortness of breath who say it all started with a "bad cold".

• A small but still significant number of young people (20s and 30s) calling for sick notes as they've had strokes and heart attacks. (14/)

Quote:

• A lot of scabies. To the point where I had to check Google to find out how common it's supposed to be and only then learnt there's abnormally high amounts of scabies right now.

• Parents calling panicked because their kid hasn't had their measles vaccine yet (15/)

Quote:

and there's a baby with it at their nursery/a kid with it at school.

• So much Scarlet Fever and Strep Throat. So much.

• Parents calling with kids with severe coughs that cause them to cough so hard they're sick. Many also reporting whooping cough outbreaks at school. (16/)

Quote:

That about covers it. And caveat that I didn't work this job pre-pandemic so cannot personally compare.

But there is clearly so much sickness around. The impacts of Covid are everywhere.

What are public health doing???

And finally...

Quote:

With this post blowing up it has found the anti-vaxxers, so I will only say this once.
90% of kids have not been vaccinated.
Most the UK population has not been boosted in 2 years.
Plenty I speak to are unvaccinated.
But they have all been repeatedly infected with Covid

Yes, this is all "perfectly normal", I'm sure. Not.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 8:09pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 2:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 8:03am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 1:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 3:08pm:

I thought it was funny video. :)

He seemed serious.

It's all fantasy. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 5:19am

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 6:46pm:

I've been working as a receptionist at a UK GP surgery for nearly a year now. Here are some observations about recurrent trends/problems I've noticed 🧵 (1/)

Here's the rest of it for those without an X account:

[quote]• So many people call with unshakeable flu-like symptoms. Some have been ill for 4+ weeks straight without improving. Most at this point are demanding antibiotics and often they get them.

• People with unshakeable illnesses aren't generally old or chronically ill. (2/)

Quote:

And finally...

Quote:

Yes, this is all "perfectly normal", I'm sure. Not.[/quote]

hay carl

stay off X

its seriously affecting your mental health

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 8:11am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 5:19am:

hay carl

stay off X

its seriously affecting your mental health

"hay" aquascoot ::)

Nothing to say about the steadily mounting evidence that your "mild respiratory virus" is nothing of the sort?

No surprise there.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 8:11am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 5:19am:

hay carl

stay off X

its seriously affecting your mental health

"hay" aquascoot ::)

Nothing to say about the steadily mounting evidence that your "mild respiratory virus" is nothing of the sort?

No surprise there.

yeah its mild

its now a good money spinner for big pharma who get the taxpayer to shell out 2000 for legavrio every time some old fart gets the sniffles . ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:01pm

White flag accepted.

Just pack it with the other dozen or so you owe me and send them when you get time.

Thanks.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

What about anger management over Covid:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

What about anger management over Covid:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

no one better then the guy from the donut shop

a true aussie legend

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 8:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

What about anger management over Covid:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

Loved it! Especially about wearing an hazmat suit if there was really a pandemic.

There will always be sheep willing to conform, and do whatever they're told. It's always easier to be led, than to lead. Thanks Bobby!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:31am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

Loved it! Especially about wearing an hazmat suit if there was really a pandemic.

Ah, so you don't believe we've been in a pandemic for the last four and a half years with SARS-CoV-2, a virus that has been responsible for 7 or 8 million (official) deaths worldwide so far?

Interesting.

Quote:

There will always be sheep willing to conform, and do whatever they're told. It's always easier to be led, than to lead.

You mean like the majority of the population who have now been led to believe the pandemic is over and SARS-CoV-2 is just a "mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold"?

And led to believe the best way to protect yourself from Covid, the flu and all other airborne viruses is to wash and sanitise your hands and shopping trolley handles?

Oh, and let's not forget - make sure to hold on to those "UV sanitised and protected" handrails when they're shopping (and you've admitted there yourself that these viruses enter your body through your nose and mouth so you can wash and sanitise your hands for eternity but it will do nothing to prevent people being infected.

If Paul Joseph Goebbels was alive today I'm sure he'd be proud of the 'excellent' propaganda job our governments have done (followed up by the total silence they've now employed) to convince people a dangerous virus is now nothing to worry about and it's perfectly OK to carry on working, shopping and spending.

Let's see how they go with "bird" flu which may be just one mutation away from direct human to human spread with its current 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate).

I'm anticipating a total media blackout on that one before too much longer (except perhaps for how it's affecting the economy) - just like what's happened with the UK Covid Inquiry which has determined that the pollies there from the current and former Prime Ministers down were quite happy to let Covid rip and take out as many elderly and vulnerable people as necessary "for the economy".

From Eat Out to Help Out to ‘let it rip’: The key Covid revelations from Boris Johnson today

7 December 2023

Quote:

Mr Johnson said the elderly have ‘had a good innings’ and should be allowed to catch the virus in order to avoid further restrictions, the inquiry has heard.

Seen anything about that in Australia's media during the past 6 months or so while their Inquiry has been running? I haven't.

Funny about that.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that our governments have been doing - and are continuing to do - the exact same thing?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:45am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

What about anger management over Covid:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

no one better then the guy from the donut shop

a true aussie legend

Great clips - LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:46am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

you owe dr gerrard a few hundred

and dr berger owes me a few hundred .

we need them to settle up first

What about anger management over Covid:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/814/582/playable/422e8284a089dda6.mp4

No worries Shilo. - LOL

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am

Good morning Bobby.

You wouldn't be trying to 'bury' my posts by any chance would you?

Seems to be happening quite a bit lately.

I'll be quite happy to keep reposting mine if I consider it necessary.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:59am

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

I hath explained unto thee many times that only
the first wave of Covid was the bio weapon from Wuhan.
It quickly mutated to less powerful versions.
Almost all the people who died from Covid were very old, fragile people in nursing homes
who would probably have died from any common cold anyway.
Such people can even fall out of bed, land on soft carpet and die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 9:14am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

Sadly, Bobby... thou hath been deceived by the likes of Sir Nail, aquascoot and (more recently) ShellShilo.

And here's the link to my earlier post which I consider to be important, even if it will be ignored by the majority.

I'll repost it in full if I consider it necessary as the day (and the thread) progresses.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:32pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

just because YOU consider it to be important does not make it so.

100,000 perth residents consider the form of the west coast eagles to be important

are you happy for other peoples issues to be rammed down YOUR throat

your behaviour is very narcissistic

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

are you happy for other peoples issues to be rammed down YOUR throat

I'm surprised you even need to ask me that.

After all, I read your posts all the time. As ridiculous as they are.

Mind you, I can't say I'm happy but I do tolerate it.

For now.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:54pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

Dear Carl,
many blessings.

But don't you remember my earlier posts?

When the first bio weapon virus hit the Italian hospitals in 2020 it was an apocalyptic disaster.
100s of healthy doctors and nurses died even though they had N95 masks and double layer bio suit protection.
I thought it was the End Times -
I thought that 50% or more of the world's population would die
so I can understand the panic that happened.
Later on we found that Fauci had transferred gene splicing technology and money to Wuhan
which was all they needed to make a bio weapon and Wuhan was
involved in a covert operation for the Chinese military to make bio weapons.
94 pages here on that:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/0#0

However the virus kept mutating to much less deadly versions as per above.
It became no more powerful than the common cold -
one type is a Rhinovirus as is Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:57pm

x
Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

are you happy for other peoples issues to be rammed down YOUR throat

I'm surprised you even need to ask me that.

After all, I read your posts all the time. As ridiculous as they are.

Mind you, I can't say I'm happy but I do tolerate it.

For now.

:)

but aqua does not "ram his opinions down your throat"

aqua says "if carl wants to mask up, feel free to mask up, i shall not lecture you"

and if i dont want to mask up, you should extend to me the same courtesy and not lecture me

this is called "minding your own business"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:35pm

"Hay" aquascoot. ::)

Here's a special treat for you from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor who flies around Australia in his own small plane to treat patients... unlike that charlatan John Gerrard who sits in an office all day and occasionally spouts nonsense about the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1805215406380240997

Quote:

My latest newsletter, with a lot of interesting stuff in it, above and beyond the Black N95s. And a reference at the end that you'll only get if you were old enough to be staying up until 9pm in the mid eighties, but if you were... it'll make you smile.🙂

The newsletter:

https://co2radical.com.au/2024/06/24/free-box-of-black-n95s-we-found-some-finally/

Buy an Aranet4 CO2 monitor and get a FREE box of N95 masks!!

Isn't that great? Perhaps you could give a few N95's to your wife to wear when she's working at the local hospital so she can help by hopefully reducing the number of patients being infected with Covid in our hospitals (and about 10% of them dying - at least in Victoria, the only State to release the numbers so far).

You're welcome. :)

Oh, and (from the bottom of the newsletter):

Quote:

And, lastly, in the immortal words of Sergeant Phil Esterhaus of the Hill Street Blues:
“Let’s be careful out there!” 😉

David Berger

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:05pm

the disgraced dr berger ;D ;D ;D

He was accused by the regulator of undermining public health messaging in his social media posts.

“When Dr Berger has made comments that disagree with politicians, government bodies and public health organisations, pharmaceutical companies and other medical professionals he has done so using emotive and pejorative language,” it found.

“The terms used by Dr. Berger often imply that the persons or organisations at issue are acting either deceptively or coercively. And for motives other than the public health interest.

“When referred to in this manner, it would be reasonable for the reader to doubt the integrity of the persons and organisations targeted by the practitioner, and to lose confidence in the public health pronouncements and programs promoted by them.

“While the board considered that it is quite likely that Dr Berger did not deliberately intend to undermine public health messages the manner and the language used in his social media comments have made it likely that readers could reach negative conclusions about public health initiatives and the people responsible for them.”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:06pm

why does carl refuse to accept the word of the health experts?

is he a conspiracy theorist ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 5:10pm

One anonymous complaint to the AHPRA about Dr. Berger.

And, with the Covid disaster currently engulfing Australia and the state of our hospitals and healthcare systems in general does anyone really think he was/is still wrong with his social media comments?

As the old saying goes - "the truth hurts".

Oh...

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

the disgraced dr berger ;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

why does carl refuse to accept the word of the health experts?

is he a conspiracy theorist ?

... see attached image.

:)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 6:15pm

On page 13 of today's The West Australian.

Would have been better on the front page and there's no mention of wearing masks (of course) but at least it's something.

Sadly, not too many people will probably read it. And, the few that do will no doubt ignore it anyway.

Oh, and I wish people would stop saying things like "get the jab" and "jabbed" because vaccination rates are low enough as it is and saying things like that doesn't help.

IMG_20240627_124628.jpg (148 KB | 2 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:02pm

Here's an interesting report on the effects of lockdowns on mental health in Australia:

Effect of lockdown on mental health in Australia

Quote:

Victorian women experienced greater mental health decline compared to the rest of Australia during 2020 COVID-19 lockdowns, new University of Melbourne research has found.

The negative impacts of lockdown were more severe for women in couples, with children under 15, and for women who lived in flats or apartments, data taken from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) Survey showed.

Quote:

The analysis showed that while, on average, the effect of the Victorian 2020 lockdown on mental health overall was very small (from 71.6 in 2019 to 69.4 in 2020) and on par with other states (from 72.0 in 2019 to 70.9 in 2020), coupled women with children experienced a 4.4 point decline during lockdown, compared with only 1.2 point decline for coupled men with dependent children.

No mention of the tens of thousands of lives saved by the lockdowns, of course.

The esteemed Dr. David Berger has something to say about it though:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1806163472335638944

Quote:

Minimal (though non-zero) effect on mental health from the lockdowns in Vic. Now, who are the 40,000 people you would have been prepared to see die who were prevented from dying, and do you think those deaths might have had any effect on mental health?

I won't be holding my breath waiting for an answer to that.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:27pm

you and berger should get a room

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

you and berger should get a room

Ouch! That hurt!

Rush me to the burns unit. ::)

Got anything useful or relevant to say about what I've posted?

No? I didn't think so.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:00pm

carl, do a poll.

ask around and see if your friends know anyone who died of covid

i dont and i was asking my colleagues and they dont either.

weird

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:00pm:

carl, do a poll.

ask around and see if your friends know anyone who died of covid

i dont and i was asking my colleagues and they dont either.

weird

Not really so weird if you're living on a farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

And, I hope you're not trying to say that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) hasn't killed anyone in the past four and a half years.

Please tell me that isn't what you're implying.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

i know plenty of people

i'm going on a quest to find someone who knows someone who died of covid .

it seems harder then one might think if what carl and berger say is true :-/ :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 1:24am

Carl D wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 8:00pm:

carl, do a poll.

ask around and see if your friends know anyone who died of covid

i dont and i was asking my colleagues and they dont either.

weird

You should really read this for context. Pay attention to words like "underlying causes", "associated causes", "preexisting chronic conditions", and "other causes", as they relate to the deaths attributed to Covid-19.

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-until-31-january-2024

Instead of just parroting incomplete stats, half-truths, and omissions, maybe you could turn your powers of alarmism into reassurance? For the common good!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 1:52am

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 1:24am:

Of course.

But, I've posted that link myself just recently and it was ignored by the 'usual suspects' here.

So, let's have another look, shall we?

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-until-31-january-2024

And...

Quote:

Again...

Quote:

The underlying cause of death for 17,276 of these people was COVID-19.

17,276 out of 21,827 deaths.

That's almost 80% of Covid deaths that were a direct result of COVID-19 (79.149677% to be exact).

To make it really simple for you: 17,276 Australians would still be alive (or would at least have had longer lives if they were very elderly) if they hadn't been infected with COVID-19.

And it's been that same approximately 80% for every one of those "COVID-19 Mortality in Australia" reports that have been released ever since Covid was allowed to run rampant and all remaining protections were removed nearly 3 years ago.

Which, once again, settles the "from or with COVID-19" BS that we've been hearing over and over for the past few years. Not just on here, but also on social media.

I've even seen quite a few idiots still going on with this "from or with Covid" crap on X (formerly Twitter) just recently regarding the disgrace of the escalating aged care deaths in Australia.

Speaking of which, there should be another aged care Covid report due tomorrow... I'll post the numbers when they become available (unless the Federal and State governments stops reporting them like they've already done with nearly all other Covid case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths reporting).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 5:35pm

Another 47 Covid deaths in Australian aged care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1806576442789990796

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 27 June 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,429 (-224)
🔹Active outbreaks: 406 (-27)
🔹Residents: 2,429 (-240)
🔹Staff: 1,000 (+16)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 657 (+47)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1806576445587886388

Quote:

🔸6,783 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸657 reported deaths in 2024

Denis 'tags' these two every week - @AnikaWells and @AlboMP but a fat lot of good it would do.

Wells (or her social media team) hasn't posted on X since last November and Albanese (or his social media team) is too busy posting any pointless crap that involves yet another photo op for him.

In addition, there is a Covid report from the ACT this week, 4 more deaths reported there.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1806528457683419541

Quote:

ACT weekly COVID update: 21 June to 27 June

🔹PCR cases only: 215 (+13.1%)
🔹Deaths: 4 (+4)
🔹Total deaths: 324 (+4)
🔹Hospital: 40 (-9.0%)
🔹ICU: 0 (+0)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

And Victoria:

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1806474421831688268

Quote:

Vic COVID update:
"The number of people in hospital with COVID-19 has decreased this week. The 7-day average is 254 compared to 311 last week"
Good news-peak passed (for now)
Bad news-wastewater reporting dumped
Why? Seriously? Let's just fly completely blind with a novel virus

So, no more wastewater reporting for Victoria. Wastewater testing results are the most accurate indication of how much Covid is in the community (because almost no one is testing and you can only report PCR tests) and now they're hiding that.

I wonder which State or Territory will be next to 'hide' this reporting? I don't know who else still reports (I know WA still does) but I'm betting we won't be seeing any more wastewater reporting (or aged care deaths reporting) before the end of the year - probably sooner.

If you take a close look at that Victorian Covid Summary it shows there were 212 Covid related deaths between the 15th May and the 11th June - 53 deaths a week.

I can just imagine how bad the numbers must be for the rest of Australia (especially NSW) right now if they weren't being 'hidden'.

Disgraceful stuff.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 5:40pm

i think thats where we differ carl.

from what i have seen, most people stay at home until they lose control of their bowels, they cannot stand up on their own or they develop dementia and , only then, do they go to a nursing home.

to me, that would be hell and i would be extremely pleased to get out of there with a dose of a respiratory virus.

what is the alternative?

lie there , doing nothing , going nowhere, and enable pharmacists, doctors and the corporations to make money by prolonging your existence?

to what end?

once i cant walk, control my bowels or use my brain, death will be a kindness.

and as long as i can walk, control my bowels and use my brain, i will be staying at home living my life of "personal responsibility"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 6:18pm

You know, things might not seem half as bad if we only had politicians with some compassion, honesty and integrity these days.

All it would take is the Prime Minister to make a national announcement on TV to, first of all, offer condolences to the familes of all those who have died and are still dying from Covid and secondly, to apologise to the nation for the (deliberate) mistake they made in letting Covid rip (and the lie of telling everyone the elderly and vulnerable would be protected).

But there's a snowball's chance in hell of that ever happening... all we get now is deliberate silence and hiding of Covid information which was no doubt agreed upon at one of their Secret Squirrel National Cabinet meetings after they let Covid rip and they saw the (predictable) results.

And I'm also absolutely certain they had legal advice to take a 'vow of silence' regarding Covid.

Would be nice if someone who looks after these National Cabinet meeting minutes would "accidentally" release them... or perhaps Julian Assange could help out now that he's free and back in Australia? Anonymously, of course.

Speaking of NSW earlier... this is the sort of thing that seems to be more important (to them) than Covid hospitalisations and deaths:

https://x.com/NSWHealth/status/1806129752559997176

Quote:

The NSW Chief Health Officer has issued a warning for the community not to consume Uncle Frog's Mushroom Gummies after several people presented to hospital experiencing unexpected toxicity.

https://x.com/NSWHealth/status/1806129754669776916

Quote:

Since April 2024, at least five people have been treated in NSW hospitals after ingesting the gummies, named.
• Uncle Frog's Mushroom Gummies – Cordyceps
• Uncle Frog's Mushroom Gummies – Lion's Mane.

There have also been hospitalisations interstate.

And, while I'm not trying to say this isn't serious I'm sure it isn't anywhere near as serious as (if Victoria is any indication) 50 or more NSW Covid deaths every week. And all of the hospitalisations (a LOT more than the 5 hospitalisations since April for Uncle Frog's Mushroom Gummies, I'm sure).

You really couldn't make this stuff up.

Oh, and... "Uncle Frog's Mushroom Gummies" ;D ;D ;D (sorry, but that's probably the funniest and most stupid name I've ever seen).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:21am

Wow... New South Wales really is a flu and Covid disaster area at the moment. But, I suspect so is most of the rest of Australia.

NSW records almost 40 per cent increase in influenza cases over a week, with emergency departments seeing a rise in admissions

Quote:

In short: More than 12,000 cases of influenza have been reported in NSW over the past week.
Authorities said there has been a "significant" impact on emergency departments.
What's next? People are being urged to get vaccinated and treat their symptoms at home.

Quote:

New South Wales emergency departments are "getting slammed" by influenza this winter, with an almost 40 per cent increase in the number of infections over the past week.

A respiratory surveillance report released on Thursday by NSW Health revealed 12,421 cases of influenza had been reported in the week ending June 22.

It was a 38 per cent increase on the previous week.

"Influenza is having an enormous impact on our emergency departments at the moment," Health Minister Ryan Park said.

Quote:

There have been 4,850 reported cases of COVID-19 in New South Wales in the week to June 22, 2024.

"Please check your vaccination status against COVID, particularly the elderly are still recommended to have boosters regularly," Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said.

"In the case of influenza, we would like to see those numbers of vaccinations much higher than they are."

The health minister urged people to stay at home if they feel unwell and to contact a general practitioner or the Healthdirect telehealth service if their symptoms are not life-threatening.

"Please only use our emergency departments if you need them," Mr Park said.

"The impact on our EDs at the moment is quite significant.

No mention of masks, of course.

https://x.com/plumskyjam/status/1806435133987377353

Quote:

So how about Park does something to fix it rather than just stand idly by as though he is powerless to prevent our healthcare systems being slammed and the personal impact for people throughout the community? It’s really a pathetic response

Yes it is - "We've tried doing nothing so far and we're all out of ideas".

And, while getting vaccinated is important it should never be the first line of defence against these respiratory viruses - especially Covid. "Prevention is better than cure".

I (and many others I'm sure) still think back to most of 2020 and 2021 when Australia was almost 100% flu and Covid free... gee, what were we doing then that was different to now, I wonder? (That's sarcasm, by the way).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:40am

yeah

its sad

by making people get a covid vaccine (which was pretty useless and didnt work)

the community have got the idea that all vaccines are crap.

no

it was just the lucrative, poorly researched , over hyped , covid vaccines

people should get a flu vac and make sure their tetanus and shingles vac are up to date

as to covid vaccines

write off the billions spent, put them in landfill and congratulate pfizer who now get to make a killing selling anti virals ;D ;D ;D

we call this "a grift" :-[ :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:38am

I still wonder from time to time if any of our pollies have 'pangs of conscience' about the rampant respiratory viruses in Australia right now and the death and illness they're causing?

Surely they must know what NEEDS to be done - mandatory masks in hospitals, all healthcare settings and aged care, on all public transport and ESPECIALLY on planes and in airports.

But, because they've successfully made almost the entire Australian population believe these life saving measures are restrictions instead of protections they don't have the courage to try and mandate masks anymore let alone recommend them.

Plus they don't want to upset their big business mates because masks = less shopping and spending, so they believe (because everyone sees them as restrictions and they're a very visible reminder that we're still in a pandemic).

And we also have a population where a large number of people simply will not comply (or wear their baggy blue surgicals under the nose or chin) even if masks were mandated.

That's one of the prices we now have to pay for the "freedom" that Australians like to brag about... but, it's a little too much "freedom" (i.e. people will do whatever they like with no thought or concern for others) in my opinion.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:17pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:38am:

But they're saving 99.9 times more people then are dying. Should we give them credit for that? Or should we give our immune system credit for both??

As I've asked before, what exactly would you want all Australians to do if you were in charge?

Would you have Australians wear masks and keep 2 meters apart indefinitely?
Would you threaten Australian workers with jab or jobs?
Would you close down all non-essential businesses?
Would you threaten pensioners with jab or pension?
Would you mandate that all newborns must have Cov-19 vaccinations?
Would you have Australians keep taking vaccines against their will, indefinitely?
Would you use taxpayer money to build Covid-19 interment/collection facilities?
Would you have Australians carry Covid-19 ID as proof that they're not infected?
Would you isolate Australia from the rest of the world indefinitely?
Would you mandate curfews in hot spots?
Would you close down beaches, museums, sports centers, and parks indefinitely?
Would impose more stringent fines and jailtime for those who don't comply?
Would you use tax money to hire more thugs to enforce your mandates?
Would you want every Australian to wear a self-contained Hazmat suit at all times?

So, instead of mindlessly parroting stats of those who have died WITH/FROM Covid-19, maybe you might have some ideas on how we can prevent this.

You're right that people will do what they want to. Until they have a reason NOT TO! Do you have a reason why they shouldn't?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:38pm

Going around and around in circles here.

Again.

I believe I've said what I want and need to say in this thread.

Numerous times.

Time to move on to something more productive (and less time wasting).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:06pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

So, you're NOT going tell me what you think the government SHOULD be doing to fight this deadly plague?

Also, why are you NOT blaming the doctors, nurses, and the entire Healthcare System for all these Covid-19 deaths? Do you think that it is politician who are providing the treatment for this disease?

No policy, mandate, or vaccine can stop any virus from entering your mouth, nose, or eyes. But we certainly can treat the disease and its symptoms.

And, at a 99.9% recovery rate, for over 4 years, I think our healthcare industry is doing a great job!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:47am

Quote:

I do believe Kate here sums it up nicely:

https://x.com/KateFra72146006/status/1806959568947404963

Quote:

There is no other plausible explanation as to why all data on Covid is being pulled from public records, the Gov needs the economy to keep growing and our health is the cost.

They took the risk & lost, now the economy will die along with us.
Really bad move.

Yep. Agreed 100%

That's it for me with this thread. Good luck Australia, you're going to need it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:10pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

Social distancing, masks, and vaccines work (to some extent).

This has been proven.

Go back to "Four People Maximum" in hospital lifts, and everyone should be wearing masks in all health care provider buildings.

There's a good start, and it's easy to implement.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:47am:

Quote:

I do believe Kate here sums it up nicely:

https://x.com/KateFra72146006/status/1806959568947404963

[quote]There is no other plausible explanation as to why all data on Covid is being pulled from public records, the Gov needs the economy to keep growing and our health is the cost.

They took the risk & lost, now the economy will die along with us.
Really bad move.

Yep. Agreed 100%

That's it for me with this thread. Good luck Australia, you're going to need it.[/quote]

you agree 100 % with THAT. (that the economy and the people are going to die because of a mild respiratory virus ?)

FFS ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

you agree 100 % with THAT. (that the economy and the people are going to die because of a mild respiratory virus ?)

FFS ::) ::) ::)

"Sick people can't work"
"Dead people don't shop"

Thus endeth the (economic) lesson for today.

A lesson that our pollies and big business are too stupid to understand or they're deliberately ignoring.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:22pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

you agree 100 % with THAT. (that the economy and the people are going to die because of a mild respiratory virus ?)

FFS ::) ::) ::)

the average age of someone dying WITH covid is 82.

are nursing home patients flooding the shopping malls and doing lots of discretionary spending ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

Social distancing, masks, and vaccines work (to some extent).

This has been proven.

Go back to "Four People Maximum" in hospital lifts, and everyone should be wearing masks in all health care provider buildings.

There's a good start, and it's easy to implement.

And, so does putting your hands over your mouth and noses when you cough or sneeze, will ALSO provide some protection TO SOME EXTENT!

The fact that more and more people were still being infected, despite masks, distancing, and vaccinations, also proves that these measures don't work. Do you think that we can stop the common cold? How about the flu? So why would you think we can stop this virus?

If people want to follow these mandates to feel safe, then that is their right. But no one should be forced/coerced/threatened to comply. If masks, distancing, and vaccines will protect you from this virus, then it should also protect you from those infected.
Right?

Also,, were all these measures meant to be indefinite?

Is this the kind of culture you want your kids to grow-up in? A culture where masks, distancing, and multiple yearly vaccinations, is the new norm? A culture where government can directly intrude into the private lives of Australians? A culture where its people must carry, and present medical ID cards to live a normal life? NO THANKS!! I'll gladly take my chances with this flu-like virus!!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:54pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:

The fact that more and more people were still being infected, despite masks, distancing, and vaccinations, also proves that these measures don't work.

No, it doesn't prove that at all.

You're not using sound reasoning.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 3:29pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

you agree 100 % with THAT. (that the economy and the people are going to die because of a mild respiratory virus ?)

FFS ::) ::) ::)

Actually, what I should have added was:

A lesson that our pollies and big business are too stupid to understand or they're deliberately ignoring in pursuit of short term profits and short term "economic growth".

And, with the ongoing rate of Covid (and flu, RSV, etc.) sickness and deaths plus increasing numbers of people with Long Covid it will definitely be short term.

Even shorter if/when "bird" flu mutates into a direct human to human transmission variant - and I'm pretty sure that's not too far away now if it hasn't happened already.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 5:00pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

you agree 100 % with THAT. (that the economy and the people are going to die because of a mild respiratory virus ?)

FFS ::) ::) ::)

carl

you are out of your mind

my wife works in hospitals and the obesity epidemic and the diabetes epidemic have governments panicking

they cant build hospitals fast enough to keep up with the results of this "lack of personal responsibility"

on my wifes ward currently are four 150 kg plus blobs who cant walk and are awaiting nursing home placement

often there for months waiting for a spot and cant go home because they cant walk (due to their lack of personal responsibility).

covid occupies no beds and if it did , the covid component is over in 2 days and then the next month of back breaking work for the nurses (who are all quitting by the way) is dealing with these elephants who cant toilet or shower themselves. (and idiots like you want them to do this in a suffocating mask)

in terms of affecting the economy covid is a nothing and obesity is a catastrophe

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 5:03pm

In 2018, obesity cost the Australian community $11.8 billion and if nothing is done, may cost an estimated $87.7 billion by 2032.

National Obesity Strategy 2022–2032 – At a glance

Australian Government Department of Health
https://www.health.gov.au › documents › 2022/03

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 5:04pm

Approximately 1.4 million Australians live with diabetes, and there are another 500,000 estimated current cases existing but undiagnosed. The cost of diabetes in Australia is estimated to be a staggering $14.6 billion.

Australian Diabetes Educators Association - Treasury.gov.au

Treasury.gov.au
https://treasury.gov.au › sites › default › files › 2...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 5:06pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 6:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:

The fact that more and more people were still being infected, despite masks, distancing, and vaccinations, also proves that these measures don't work.

No, it doesn't prove that at all.

You're not using sound reasoning.

There is nothing wrong with my reasoning. Or, is it flawed and unsound only because it differs from yours?

Do you think that the infection rate and mortality rates could be a good indicator of how well the government's Covid-19 policies are working?

What other objective indicator/factors would YOU use, to demonstrate that these policies are working or not?

I thought my deductive reasoning was obvious. If all of the government's policies were working, how would it manifest itself in society? What exactly does a continued increase in the number of infection cases, and the number of Covid-19 deaths indicate?

Especially, during the government's containment phase(vaccination, boosters, masks, containment camps, distancing, curfews, border closures, sports/recreation center closures, non-essential business closures, and bans on group gatherings)?

Or, is it because you believe that the government is always right? Or, have the right to do whatever it wants to its people? For any reason it can create?

Being forced to comply with the government's mandated polices, was the biggest and most obvious red flag. Why didn't people see it? Australians are NOT sheep!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 7:01pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:

The fact that more and more people were still being infected, despite masks, distancing, and vaccinations, also proves that these measures don't work.

No, it doesn't prove that at all.

You're not using sound reasoning.

There is nothing wrong with my reasoning.

Your claim is not based in any objective reasoning or logic.

One day, hopefully, you'll see where you're going wrong.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 7:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 7:01pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:

The fact that more and more people were still being infected, despite masks, distancing, and vaccinations, also proves that these measures don't work.

No, it doesn't prove that at all.

You're not using sound reasoning.

There is nothing wrong with my reasoning.

Your claim is not based in any objective reasoning or logic.

One day, hopefully, you'll see where you're going wrong.

Still trying to gaslight people with empty bluffs.

Since when are the numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, NOT OBJECTIVE FACTS?

So tell me, what objective reasoning or logic can you posit, that proves that the government programs have worked?? Good luck with that, genus!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:23pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 7:59pm:

Since when are the numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, NOT OBJECTIVE FACTS?

Nobody said they weren't.

An increase in the number of COVID cases and deaths is proof that COVID cases and deaths are increasing.

It is not, however, proof that "masks, distancing, and vaccinations ... don't work".

I'm not sure why you don't understand this.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:00pm

I'm guessing it might be time to ask our two resident death and disease apologists how many Australian Covid deaths a year are acceptable so people can work, shop and take holidays maskless?

10,000?
15,000?
More?

While I'm here... this is a perfect example of why we're in the Covid mess we're in right now.

From page 4 of today's Sunday Times newspaper.

How much mis/dis/lack of information can you spot in this one short article? From the Premier and the WA government no less.

I've spotted 5 so far. I'll post them later.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 10:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:23pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 7:59pm:

Since when are the numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, NOT OBJECTIVE FACTS?

What I don't understand, is why you can't understand exactly what you're saying?

If you're saying that the numbers of cases and deaths ARE OBJECTIVE FACTS, then why can't I use them to gauge the effectiveness of the government's policies, mandates and restrictions? Especially since they relate DIRECTLY to this virus.

I thought that the purpose of all these mandates, restrictions and policies, and vaccinations, was to CURB THE SPREAD of this virus. Or, to prevent people from becoming infected. Right?

Wouldn't it be logical and reasonable, to measure the effectiveness of these policies/programs, on an increase/decrease of Covid-19 cases and deaths within the population? Doesn't this seem reasonable/logical to you?? It does to me.

Although the idea that man can physically prevent anyone in society from being infected by a virus, is ludicrous and silly! Another huge red flag.

So, where was my logic flawed? And, what objective evidence can YOU posit, that will show that these mandates, policies, and restrictions DO work? Whether I can prove/disprove anything(which I have) is irrelevant. Your position is simply NOT right by default! So where is your evidence??

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 12:07am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:00pm:

I've spotted 5 so far. I'll post them later.

Well, here's what I have. And there's a lot more than 5.

* There's that word "jab(s)" again... creates a negative 'vibe' right from the start (I'm sure aquascoot can tell us all about "vibes" - perhaps when he's finished feeding the horses tomorrow morning?).

* "Vaccine fatigue"? Nah, an almost total lack of government and health department messaging (and idiot antivaxxers) is to blame there.

* "... get immunised against potentially deadly illnesses such as influenza, meningococcal and shingles" Yes - but what about SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19)?
And... while vaccines are important they should not be the first line of defence (but they can't say the word "mask", of course) and you really should avoid catching any of these if you can, vaccinated or not.

* "During the COVID-19 pandemic..." - the only mention of the C word in the whole article and it's used to imply the pandemic is over (which it isn't).

* "We have also seen a spike in misleading and dangerous information...." Yes, and apart from the antivaxxers and antimaskers most of it has been (and is still) coming from our governments.
Like "wash your hands" and "cough and sneeze into your hands or elbow" to protect people from airborne viruses like Covid, flu and RSV.

* "It is so important that we counter this misinformation...." Well, better late than never. And, when will you start? Hint: Start by using the "m(ask)" word - if you dare.

* 803 hospitalisations for influenza and 650 for RSV since January. How many hospitalisations for Covid in that same time period? Oops... can't tell us... it's now a big secret.

* "My government's free immunisation program for illnesses like influenza and RSV make it easy for Western Australians to keep themselves and their loved ones safe" Great, but what about keeping everyone safe from Covid?

* "I encourage everyone to make informed decisions..." lol... with a population the majority of whom can't think any further ahead than what's for dinner, what's on TV tonight and when can they take their next Bali holiday? Hilarious stuff!!
And, I'm sure aquascoot will be along in the morning to give us another lecture about that awesome "personal responsibility" ::)

* "... and not to assume they're immune..." lol - again. The majority wouldn't be assuming or even thinking about it at all (see previous comment above).
And... vaccination for any of these illnesses does not provide immunity... you can still catch and spread them.

* "... for the benefit of the whole community" lol x3... that's the funniest thing in the entire article (see 2 comments up - again). And... someone should post that one up in our hospitals, all healthcare settings and aged care places where staff won't even put on a mask to protect the medically vulnerable and elderly from any of the abovementioned illnesses - especially Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 7:12am

Listen to her story - the Covid vaccine nearly killed her.

https://x.com/AussieVal10/status/1807380373351059676

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 5:27pm

Good to see that it wasn't just me who noticed.

EXCLUSIVE COMMENT: WA Government Vaccination Campaigns Ignore COVID Crisis, Warns Dr. Andrew Miller

Not sure who or what did the transcript because parts of it look a little 'odd' (maybe someone should have proofread it) but you get the idea.

Quote:

“At this stage, acknowledge that it’s still an ongoing problem in our community.

“Don’t worry about who’s responsible for that or why it is the way it is at the moment.

“Just get on with fixing it. That’s what the government’s supposed to be there to do.

Yes, it is.

But, they've 'painted themselves into a corner' now with making almost everyone believe Covid is over or it's just "mild" and they can't see any way out of that without making themselves look like bigger idiots than they already are - even if they wanted to fix it (which I'm sure they don't).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 5:54pm

people would still have confidence in vaccines if the following LIE was not told

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

and 99 % of people complied

and then promptly got covid

and brain dead numpties wonder why they arent fronting up for more vaccines :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 6:45pm

Yes.

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms" was a result of (a) governments not being aware of what SARS-CoV-2 was/is still capable of or (b) they knew and decided to deliberately ignore it because of the enormous pressure they were under at the time to open Australia up again then opening up and hoping Covid would soon become nothing more than a common cold.

They 'gambled and lost'... with the result that 25,000 Australians (so far) have lost their lives. As well as the ongoing hospitalisations, sickness everywhere and long Covid cases.

And now they're making things worse for themselves (and us) by trying to cover up their mistakes by taking a 'vow of silence' regarding Covid as well as removing or hiding all Covid case number, hospitalisation and death reports.

I'm predicting this is all going to end badly for these politicians responsible for this mess... accountability is coming. But, it is taking a lot longer than I (and many others) would like.

https://x.com/AlrantAl/status/1807634631195504702

Quote:

With the constant Govt denialism, I keep coming back to this quote from Jaws…

“I think that I am familiar with the fact that you are going to ignore this particular problem until it swims up and BITES YOU ON THE ASS!”

I think its now biting our society on the ass..

Correct.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 2:52pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 6:45pm:

Correct.

I'm afraid, that you're just a flea biting the back of an elephant.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 3:25pm

ShellShilo wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 2:52pm:

I'm afraid, that you're just a flea biting the back of an elephant.

Yes, I'm afraid you're probably right.

I took my 94 year old aunt for her 9 monthly eye checkup at a place in Murdoch this morning.

The 'photoshopped' picture of the Mona Lisa wearing a 'baggy blue' surgical mask was still on the wall behind the reception desk... been there for about 2 or 3 years but none of the staff were wearing any sort of mask of course.

But at least there were a couple of bottles of hand sanitiser and even a couple of boxes of tissues on the reception desk.

Just what people need to deal with airborne viruses (that's sarcasm, by the way).

Apart from the KN95's being worn by my aunt and I there were baggy blues on one or two of the patients in the very busy (small and stuffy) waiting area... with one mask being worn under the nose.

Spoke to a couple of staff and they agreed with me that it isn't a good idea to get infected with Covid or any other respiratory viruses even if you've been vaccinated but it doesn't seem to occur to them that the best way to protect yourself is to wear a mask (I suspect they do know but they don't want to 'scare' patients and potentially lose business by masking - might also be "orders from the top").

Pity aquascoot wasn't there to give them one of his "personal responsibility" lectures. ::)

I almost gasped when the eye doctor checking my aunt told me she had one elderly patient who has had Covid 7 times so far!!! He is in extremely poor health but he's also a heavy smoker. Poor guy, I don't think he will make it to the end of this year, especially if he gets Covid infection #8 or even the flu or RSV.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 5:03pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 3:25pm:

ShellShilo wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 2:52pm:

I'm afraid, that you're just a flea biting the back of an elephant.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

7 times and he's still here

does that not PROVE what a weak virus this is? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 5:03pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

7 times and he's still here

does that not PROVE what a weak virus this is? ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, it doesn't.

Anything more you'd like to add?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 5:49pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 3:25pm:

Spoke to a couple of staff and they agreed with me that it isn't a good idea to get infected with Covid or any other respiratory viruses even if you've been vaccinated but it doesn't seem to occur to them that the best way to protect yourself is to wear a mask (I suspect they do know but they don't want to 'scare' patients and potentially lose business by masking - might also be "orders from the top").

I think if you ask anyone that question, I doubt if anyone is going to say, "Yes, it IS a good idea to be infected with Covid..."?

And, wearing a mask is far from being the BEST way, to protect/prevent yourself from becoming infected.

I hope your aunt is okay. I couldn't even say my last goodbyes to my own mother when she passed(I have since)!!

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 3:25pm:

I almost gasped when the eye doctor checking my aunt told me she had one elderly patient who has had Covid 7 times so far!!! He is in extremely poor health but he's also a heavy smoker. Poor guy, I don't think he will make it to the end of this year, especially if he gets Covid infection #8 or even the flu or RSV.

Was this victim asymptomatic? Were his symptoms mild or severe? Clearly Covid-19 is NOT the deadly virus it was hyped-up to be!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 6:25pm

The Forever Pandemic.

Just when the latest wave seemed to be receding.

But, that's what happens when we (or, our governments) chose to "live with the virus".

Experts warn new contagious FLuQE Covid subvariant ‘taking off’ in Australia

A new variant of Covid has already produced a bulge in cases, and now experts are warning an even more contagious subvariant will hit Aussies soon.

Quote:

A highly transmissible Covid subvariant is “taking off” in Australia and will likely produce a bulge in new cases, disease experts warn.

The FLuQE subvariant is ripping through the US, and University of South Australia biostatistician Adrian Esterman said the mutation would hit Australians in just a few weeks.

“It might take another few weeks to hit us, but it will,” he told NewsWire on Wednesday.

“It’s really starting to take off and in America, it’s starting to skyrocket.”

So, is the Australian government going to do anything to stop this from entering the country? Mind you, it's probably already here.

Don't we have biosecurity laws that are supposed to prevent things like this? I'm sure we do but I'm guessing they don't apply to viruses and other illnesses that only affect humans these days?

How about masks on planes? Enforcing declarations that people are supposed to sign before boarding planes to Australia saying they're not sick or infectious with (enforced) penalties for lying? Testing before boarding flights and/or after arriving? Quarantine?

Australian government and the airlines: "Nah, we're good. Thanks for asking anyway" (and then they continue counting their $$$$$).

Quote:

Professor Esterman said a portion of the country’s elderly population might not be properly prepared for the coming wave.

With 657 deaths in Australian aged care so far this year (6,783 aged care deaths since the beginning of the pandemic) we also weren't "properly prepared" for the last one (and the one before... and the one before...).

But, just carry on working, shopping, spending and taking interstate and overseas holidays... the economy needs YOU (to die, be sick almost all the time from repeated infections, or become disabled from Covid if necessary).

What a fustercluck.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 6:59pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 6:25pm:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 7:35pm

I haven't seen Australia's alleged Biosecurity Laws but I'm pretty sure I can sum them up in 2 sentences:

1. Any virus or illness that only affects and kills humans, especially the elderly and medically vulnerable (so we can save money on pensions and healthcare costs) - "Welcome to Australia, make yourself right at home (and make sure you invite all of your friends)".

2. Any virus or illness that can (negatively) affect the economy by killing or causing sickness in cattle, sheep, poultry, etc. - "We'll be all over you like flies on sh!t, you won't stand a chance, no matter what it takes or how much it costs (the taxpayers)".

Am I right? I believe I am after what I've seen (and continue to see) since the start of the Covid pandemic.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:12pm

And here's the latest report card from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare:

https://x.com/aihw/status/1807912217657950611

Quote:

Our report card on Australia's health is out now! 📣

Take a dive into the key information and statistics on the health of Australians, the health system and factors that influence our health. 🏥

And... just for aquascoot... a comment from the esteemed Dr. David Berger:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1808529273621451100

Quote:

The fact that a novel infectious disease is the third leading cause of death in Australia and nobody apparently cares, shows that almost everyone can be habituated to almost anything, no matter how outlandish it may once have seemed.

Yes. Yes it does. Including a few posters here.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 9:50am

Masks? Nah, of course not.

https://x.com/MaccaPolitical/status/1808980186102444490

Quote:

Lots of guesswork here. (Apart from the dead)
Masks?? 🙄

Oh, look... it's aquascoot's hero, Dr. Death/Lex Luthor making one of his rare appearances to spout more nonsense.

https://archive.md/6PlR4

Quote:

Queensland is bracing for a new wave of Covid cases as chief health officer John Gerrard warns the virus is becoming “complex” as it rapidly mutates and competing strains put pressure on hospital services.
Dr Gerrard reports that three sub-variants are now in circulation – FLiRT, FLuQE and most recently de-FLiRT.
“Due to this mutation, as well as fluctuating community immunity, we are witnessing more than one wave each year,” he said.
“Covid-19 has not yet developed a clear seasonal pattern.”

No - and it never will, you muppet. And you know it.

Quote:

Dr Gerrard assures there is no evidence of increased disease severity associated with any of the new variants.

No, of course there isn't. Especially now with hardly anyone testing and reporting and governments 'hiding' what little Covid information, cases, deaths and hospitalisations are still available (just waiting for aged care death numbers to 'disappear', won't be long now, I'm sure).

And, didn't you say nearly 3 years ago that it was "necessary" for everyone to be infected?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-24/qld-coronavirus-covid19-omicron-from-pandemic-to-endemic/100722924

Quote:

Queensland's new Chief Health Officer John Gerrard has been telling people this week the spread of COVID-19 in the Sunshine State is not only inevitable — it's "necessary".

Quote:

Still waiting nearly 3 years later... so, when will it happen?

How does this idiot (and others like him around Australia) manage to keep his job? Don't answer that, I already know.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 11:46am

Carl D wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

Masks? Nah, of course not.

https://x.com/MaccaPolitical/status/1808980186102444490

Quote:

Lots of guesswork here. (Apart from the dead)
Masks?? 🙄

Oh, look... it's aquascoot's hero, Dr. Death/Lex Luthor making one of his rare appearances to spout more nonsense.

https://archive.md/6PlR4

[quote]Queensland is bracing for a new wave of Covid cases as chief health officer John Gerrard warns the virus is becoming “complex” as it rapidly mutates and competing strains put pressure on hospital services.
Dr Gerrard reports that three sub-variants are now in circulation – FLiRT, FLuQE and most recently de-FLiRT.
“Due to this mutation, as well as fluctuating community immunity, we are witnessing more than one wave each year,” he said.
“Covid-19 has not yet developed a clear seasonal pattern.”

No - and it never will, you muppet. And you know it.

Quote:

Dr Gerrard assures there is no evidence of increased disease severity associated with any of the new variants.

Queensland's new Chief Health Officer John Gerrard has been telling people this week the spread of COVID-19 in the Sunshine State is not only inevitable — it's "necessary".

Quote:

Still waiting nearly 3 years later... so, when will it happen?

How does this idiot (and others like him around Australia) manage to keep his job? Don't answer that, I already know.[/quote]

he keeps his job by being in alignment with the 99 % of the population who are not rampant hypochondriacs ::) ::) ::)

you go and align with the crackpot dr berger

everyones happy ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 1:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 11:46am:

he keeps his job by being in alignment with the 99 % of the population who are not rampant hypochondriacs ::) ::) ::)

you go and align with the crackpot dr berger

everyones happy ;)

Ah, do you mean the 99% of the population who are now blissfully unaware (due to deliberate silence from our governments and the media) that a virus that is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard is still killing many Australians and making many more sick every day of the year with endless Covid waves?

That 99%?

OK, got it.

That reminds me, the latest numbers from the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in aged care (and the continuing disgrace of the pollies' silence) should be released today.

I'll post them later (unless they've stopped reporting them since last week - and that wouldn't surprise me one bit).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 11:46am:

he keeps his job by being in alignment with the 99 % of the population who are not rampant hypochondriacs ::) ::) ::)

you go and align with the crackpot dr berger

everyones happy ;)

what are people in aged care facilities doing there?

you cant get into one until you are so broken down, that if you were of an animal species , the RSPCA would demand you be treated with compassion and euthenased.

yet we insist on making people endure suffering for what end?

ever heard of someone leaving a nursing home and moving onto a fruitful life in the community?

we need an RSPCA( royal society for prevention of cruelty to aged .)

and we need to recognise covid as the old mans friend, come to release him from the suffering he is being forced to endure by a heartless society

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 5:23pm

More pension and healthcare costs saved for the government this week.

And no doubt 'cheered on' by the likes of aquascoot.

Another 39 Covid deaths in Australian aged care.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1809086375402319905

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 4 July 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,041 (-328)
🔹Active outbreaks: 395 (+9)
🔹Residents: 2,134 (-292)
🔹Staff: 907 (-36)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 696 (+39)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1809086377637916975

Quote:

6,822 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸696 reported deaths in 2024

And, as always, Denis 'tags' the utterly useless Anika Wells (Australian ~~Minister for Aged Care and~~ Minister for Sport) who hasn't 'tweeted' since November 17th and equally useless PM Anthony Albanese (who only 'tweets' stupid selfies most of the time - as long as they've got nothing to do with Covid cases and deaths in hospitals, aged care, or anything Covid related, of course).

Also...

‘Top five’: Shocking Covid stat as cases soar

Quote:

Experts have sounded a warning over “complex” and highly-transmissible Covid subvariants taking off in Australia — as new data shows the virus is among the nation’s top five killers.

Queensland chief health officer John Gerrard told the Courier Mail three sub-variants are now spreading in the state – FLiRT, FLuQE and most recently de-FLiRT.

“Due to this mutation, as well as fluctuating community immunity, we are witnessing more than one wave each year,” he said. “Covid-19 has not yet developed a clear seasonal pattern.”

The FLuQE subvariant is ripping through the US will likely produce a bulge in new cases in Australia, experts have warned.

This comes as newly-published data shows the illness has become the third leading cause of death in Australia — marking the first time in over fifty years an infectious disease has ranked so highly in the nation’s mortality statistics.

But, I'm sure all of these new variants are just as "mild" as previous ones - just ask "Dr. Death"/"Lex Luthor" John Gerrard, aquascoot or ShellShilo.

In the meantime, carry on... working, shopping and spending and taking interstate and overseas holidays (and be sure to bring back a few more new Covid variants when you return seeing as there's nothing and no one to prevent it anymore).

What a shambles.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 6:21pm

Anyway... to try and lighten a mood a little.

Not Australia this time but the UK.

Just for aquascoot from the esteemed Dr. David Berger again:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809123305963860233

Quote:

*DIDN'T*EXPECT*TO*GET*COVID*AT*GLASTONBURY*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

As Jammer says:

Quote:

A journalist with BBC News, going to Glastonbury in the middle of a COVID surge and being surprised by getting COVID is about as 2024 as it gets.

It most certainly is. Poor Anna.

And...

https://x.com/LJPG_23/status/1809130243111989525

Quote:

Looking at this monstrous crowd, there would’ve been people infected already and people who were getting infected. This is when Coldplay were on and ironically playing, ‘Fix You’, with Michael J Fox on stage placing himself in a risky situation with epic COVID swirling around🤷🏼‍♀️

Hope Michael J Fox is OK at least.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 6:36pm

lol... after looking into this further it seems Anna (or her boss at the BBC) wasn't too happy.

https://x.com/Kegel7/status/1808639260079133099

Quote:

@anna_michaux
instead of locking down your account and deleting tweets, you could try doing some investigative journalism & reporting into the damage Covid is causing throughout society.
Covid-19: Even mild infections can cause long term heart problems.

Yes, and I can just imagine some of the replies she got before she deleted her Tweet.

https://x.com/anna_michaux

Quote:

These posts are protected
Only approved followers can see @anna_michaux’s posts. To request access, click Follow.

Thank goodness someone took a screenshot of her Covid post (which has no doubt been spread far and wide by now) before she deleted it and locked her account. ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 8:00pm

You see, as "mildly" amusing as Anna's Glastonbury Covid saga and her response is, it's just the 'tip of the iceberg' when it comes to showing what governments and the media are doing these days to maintain the myth that "Covid is over" or, at worst, it's "just a cold" now.

Anything that puts even the slightest doubt into peoples' minds that the myth may not be true must be discredited or eliminated immediately.

Especially if it has the potential to adversely affect the economy in any way.

Edit: Here's another one !!

https://x.com/AcrossTheMersey/status/1808996600116621321

Quote:

BBC News Journalists enjoying Glastonbury in the middle of a COVID surge and getting sick, is becoming par for the course. Definitely not COVID though, just a case of the “Festival Flu.”

https://x.com/AcrossTheMersey/status/1809230002744877465

Quote:

“Festival Flu” succeeds last year’s “Fringe Flu.”

Wonder what’s next.

"Festival Flu". "Fringe Flu" ;D ;D ;D

And.... another comment by the esteemed Dr. Berger (just for aquascoot):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809214915699478826

Quote:

The fatuous incuriousness of these people.

Yes indeed.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:21pm

And... the Australian Covid sh!tshow rolls on...

New South Wales again.

From Dr. Noor Bari (and, just for aquascoot, that's Dr. Noor Bari MBBS BSc Hons Infectious Diseases).

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810301349357301927

Quote:

@NSWCHO

What the???

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810301610465378758

Quote:

Everyone, you *have* to see this video… BUT trigger warning…

It has an unbelievable number of pandemic bloopers.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810301701506920738

Quote:

Sydney has to get sicker before it gets better?

What on the earth?

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810302168148349243

Quote:

The Premier @ChrisMinnsMP
out and about spreading germs live on TV!

I don’t know what to do to erase that image of him coughing straight into both hands with everyone else just standing around stoically getting infected.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810302648194912284

Quote:

@Channel7

What kind of reporting is this?

WELL FITTED MASKS. Yes say it out loud. RESPIRATORS. Your poor defenceless viewers are being kept in the dark BY YOU.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810302968325107985

Quote:

Yes everyone, we have opened a phone line to tell you to stay home.

No one is going to ED with not sick kids or for no reason.

The wait alone weeds out anyone that isn’t desperate, and frankly even desperate people go home and die sometimes..

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810303256758980810

Quote:

And where may I ask did you get the staff for these emergency clinics? Hmmm?

GP surgeries? ED? Ward staff? Theatres? Where?

Cos we aren’t sprouting staff numbers.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810303443585864087

Quote:

I have been to ED with sick kids repeatedly over the last few weeks and I can assure you they were in need of more than a phone call!

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810303988857987420

Quote:

I feel so sorry for everyone that watches channel 7 news.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810304861256491083

Quote:

A 🤬 red alert disaster and you can’t mention masks or even role model staying home when sick.

Putting more trampolines at the base of the cliff is not the answer. You aren’t a kid anymore @ChrisMinnsMP
You can’t just live in fantasy magic land and pretend doing nothing to promote prevention is ok!

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810305177536344566

Quote:

Go. Home.

https://x.com/NjbBari3/status/1810307379323674712

Quote:

Vaccines, masks, respirators, fresh air, HEPA, stay home when sick, use that number if needed.

Thats the advice that should be given.

Yes, but that might start to sow the seeds of doubt in peoples' minds about being told the Covid pandemic is over or it's "just a cold" now.

And our useless pollies can't afford to lose face (and, more importantly to them, votes) by admitting they were wrong.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:27pm

carl

its important that emergency departments are freed up so any footballers injured on the weekend or at training can recieve the best timely care.

as such , covid should be dealt with by woolworths who are able to provide tissues for runny noses and panadol for the odd headache

by doing so, we can ensure hospitals are available for the truly important people

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:30pm

dr berger should stop stressing over covid and help these players with their rehab

The West Coast Eagles' injury list will be updated every round during the 2024 premiership season.

Injury List

Player Injury Estimated Return
Rhett Bazzo

Groin
1 week
Matt Flynn

Ankle
Test
Elijah Hewett

Foot
1 week
Callum Jamieson

Knee
TBC
Noah Long

Knee
Season
Jeremy McGovern

Hand
Test
Jack Petruccelle

Hamstring
1 week
Dom Sheed

Hamstring
1-2 weeks
Jake Waterman

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:27pm:

I know you're trying to be a smart@ss there but you know what?

That's probably the most believable post you've made here in a long, long time. If not ever.

The only thing you left out was the word Politicians.

Footballers and Politicians (but not necessarily in that order).

Perhaps there's hope for you yet?

But, I seriously doubt it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 9^th, 2024 at 6:48pm

Yes, I'm betting that a politician or a "star" footballer wouldn't have to wait nearly 2 hours to get a bed at Royal Perth Hospital like my 94 year old aunt did on Saturday afternoon.

Mind you, it's a lot better than South Australia at the moment where I've heard that people have had to wait up to 24 hours to get a bed.

And with the current Covid/flu/RSV/goodness knows what else sh!tshow in New South Wales I'm sure Joe and Jane Average will have long waits for a hospital bed there too.

And then there's Queensland... but I won't discuss that right now (perhaps you can shoot off a quick email to your hero CHO and ask how things are going there - just don't expect an honest reply. Or, more likely, don't expect any reply at all).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 10^th, 2024 at 8:56am

I've said this before but I do believe it deserves another repeat.

It really is quite bizarre the apparent lengths our pollies are going to in a huge effort to make everyone believe "Covid is over" or, at worst, it's now "just a cold".

And it's the same in the UK, the US, Canada and nearly everywhere else in the world.

It was (and still is) a worldwide 'coordinated' effort.

From the almost total silence from the Prime Minister down to Premiers like NSW's Chris Minns having press conferences while he's obviously sick (second time he's done this, I've heard), no mention of masks whatsoever and now we have WA with it's "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination campaign with no mention of the third biggest killer in Australia - SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) at all.

The pollies have really 'painted themselves into a corner', haven't they? They gambled and lost when they opened up Australia and let Covid rip and now they're too cowardly and afraid to admit they're wrong and try to reinstate protections like masks (on planes and all public transport, hospitals and healthcare settings and aged care at the very least).

And, as I've also said on several occasions in the past - I'm sure the pollies have also had legal advice to now remain silent about Covid in an attempt to evade responsibility and accountability (about the only thing the pollies are good at these days, apart from giving themselves massive yearly pay rises, of course).

But, as I've also said before - accountability is coming one day and I only hope I'm still around to see it happen.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 10^th, 2024 at 11:24am

Carl D wrote on Jul 10^th, 2024 at 8:56am:

The doctors at RPH sent my mother home, despite her being very ill.

They said the place was full of COVID and that she'd be much safer at home.

:(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 10^th, 2024 at 6:29pm

I think my aunt and I are OK after being at Royal Perth on Saturday and Sunday. Doesn't seem like we caught anything.

Saw a couple of masks here and there but most staff/patients were unmasked. But, I did see quite a few masks being worn in the Emergency Department waiting area when I got there at 5pm Saturday.

The staff kept the KN95 mask on my aunt as much as possible while she was there and I had mine on during the brief visit on Saturday afternoon when I couldn't get in to see her and I had it on again when I picked her up at 7am Sunday.

Might have to get a few RATs next time I'm shopping, I had heaps of them but I threw them out in March when they expired (the 'freebies' from the WA State government).

Maybe I should have kept half a dozen, even if they're expired they would probably still work for some time afterwards. And besides, you can't report positive RATs anymore anyway.

Strange thing is, we had a visit from a chap with Rehabilitation in the Home (RITH) on Monday morning and they're part of the WA Government Department of Health.

When he called to say he was coming he asked me a few questions about Covid and if we felt unwell or we thought we'd been exposed recently. I mentioned that we'd been to RPH (which he would/should have known) but we thought we were OK.

And he was wearing a mask (baggy blue but better than nothing) when he came to see my aunt.

I thought it rather strange when you look at everything else the WA Government is doing to try and ignore Covid these days (the new "Don't Assume You're Immune" campaign is a classic example).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 5:13pm

239 dead Victorians in 28 days.

https://x.com/JordanCrane2/status/1811589970349748694

Quote:

239 dead Victorians in 28 days.

This is up from 212 dead Victorians in the previous reporting period.

This must stop.
@JacintaAllanMP

@MaryAnneThomas

What you are doing isn't working, let's get this fixed. Now!

Well, of course what they're doing isn't working because they're not doing anything.

Some of the replies...

Quote:

KJ
@_Science_Wins
23m
Replying to @JordanCrane2 @JacintaAllanMP @MaryAnneThomas
If 239 Victorians died on the Roads from Car 🚗 accidents there would be cries like: “this carnage has to stop!”

But, because these people died of #COVID behind closed doors, the Government & Media couldn’t care less.

What a callous society we have become...

Quote:

Judy Smith
@JudySmi98006978
1h
Replying to @JordanCrane2 @JacintaAllanMP @MaryAnneThomas
Deaths in Victoria from Covid increased - 239 in 28 days.
How can this be unremarkable? Almost 60 per week.
Someone’s child, parent, grandparent, sibling.
No acknowledgement, no condolences to families.
When did we become so uncaring?

Quote:

Dr Duc Dau
@handonthepulse
1h
Replying to @JordanCrane2 @JacintaAllanMP @MaryAnneThomas
Jesus

Quote:

Diane Vesovic
@diane_vesovic
3h
Replying to @JordanCrane2
Do something now @JacintaAllanMP @MaryAnneThomas why do you allow these deaths to Victorians happen when you have the power to stop people from dying? This isn’t the Australia l used to love & know

No, no it isn't. But, as I've said before - I'm convinced Australia has been like this for a long time now but it's taken the Covid pandemic to make it obvious.

No information available about Covid deaths from the other States and Territories at this stage, of course. And there probably won't be any more from Victoria soon as well.

Meanwhile, no word yet on Covid cases and deaths in Australian aged care this week. Wonder if they've finally decided to 'hide' those numbers now?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 5:43pm

i felt the same way when schoolkids were not allowed to go to school and thrive

"this is not the australia i know" was my initial thought

the idea that we would put the selfish concerns of the boomers above our duty to children and grandchildren was a stain on our society

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 5:44pm

the ABC agrees

Lockdowns caused 'high psychological distress' in 70pc of high school students, study finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-25/lockdown-mental-health-effects-students-research/101094088

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 5:44pm

shameful disgraceful entitled stuff from our older hypochondriacs

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 5:47pm

Yes, what exactly IS going on here?

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1811645597549519017

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities.

What's going on here?? @healthgovau

Replies...

Quote:

Kym
@Poupon123
30m
Replying to @BigBadDenis @healthgovau
Medical neglect...

Quote:

Rob T 🎗️
@Robhaspatience
37m
Replying to @BigBadDenis @healthgovau
Perhaps it was time to "clock off", so they did 🙄😅

Quote:

Maddie
@136sooverit62
1h
Replying to @BigBadDenis @healthgovau
Someone's having a POET'S day? Sorry Denis, if you don't laugh you'll cry. Beyond a joke! 😡

And, if you follow the links starting from here (scroll down to July 2024 - COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities 18 September 2020 Collection)...

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/covid-19-outbreaks-in-australian-residential-aged-care-facilities#july-2024

... you end up in another useless loop of oblivion as the esteemed Dr. David Berger did last week when he was trying to find information about Covid with the WA Government's "Don't Assume You're Immune" advertising campaign.

This HAS to be deliberate... there is absolutely NO WAY our governments could be this incompetent. Or could they?

(Sadly, I'm suspecting it must have been a REALLY BAD week for Covid deaths in Australian aged care this week).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Yadda on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 6:24pm

The title of this thread........
"People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia"

response......

No !

I am not.

FACT;
No segment of the Covid-19 virus has ever been isolated.
- THIS IS A CLAIM MADE BY MANY 'AFORE-TIME' RESPECTED MEDICAL SCIENTISTS.

'AFORE-TIME' = = before the emergence of the 'Covid-19' virus

If that is true, what are the 'real world' implications, regarding the development of a vaccine for the 'Covid-19' virus ?

JUST STOP.......AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO SOME OF US.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 6:37pm

Speaking of the esteemed Dr. David Berger again...

... this one's just for aquascoot (and his hero, Dr. Death/Lex Luthor Gerrard):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1811654892869521804

Quote:

How it started...

December 2022

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1811654895935815895

Quote:

How it's going...

July 2024

Replies... see below.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 9:12am

Well, it doesn't look like we'll be seeing any numbers for Covid cases and deaths in Australian aged care this week. Funny about that.

As I said - I strongly (and sadly) suspect the death numbers have increased (a lot) from the 39 deaths reported the week before.

Still the same incorrect and useless links as yesterday when trying to find this week's numbers.

No doubt this will all be blamed on a "computer glitch" or "administration error" or something like that when they return to "work" on Monday but I still suspect this is deliberate.

Tim the ex virologist is also suspicious and so are a few other people.

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1811698830276198403

Quote:

39 dead last week and this is the best @healthgovau
can do?

I hope this is an IT error but given the 616 deaths this year with zip action @Mark_Butler_MP
has form for trying to cover this up

Yes he does.

And, what's next? Banning masks like they've already started doing in the US?

Imagine that - going from being fined for NOT wearing a mask to being fined FOR wearing a mask in the space of 3 years (with the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic still raging and another much, much worse pandemic - "bird" flu - about to follow).

You really can't make this stuff up.

We truly have some evil f...ers in governments and business these days, don't we? Mind you, just like our selfish and greedy population, it's been like that for a long, long time but it's taken the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic to make it really obvious.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 2:21pm

carl

the public expect there to be "births in maternity units'

and the public expect there to be "deaths in aged care"

its not newsworthy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by ShellShilo on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 4:38pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 9:12am:

39 dead last week and this is the best @healthgovau
can do?

I hope this is an IT error but given the 616 deaths this year with zip action @Mark_Butler_MP
has form for trying to cover this up

You are really becoming obsessive and intransigent. I'm out!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 6:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

carl

the public expect there to be "births in maternity units'

and the public expect there to be "deaths in aged care"

its not newsworthy

0 (ZERO) aged care COVID deaths in 2019 and earlier.

Followed by...

6,822 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸696 reported deaths in 2024 so far (plus an unknown number of deaths that haven't been reported last week due to a "computer glitch"... or "something").

So, how many aged care Covid deaths a year does aquascoot believe is "acceptable"?

Keeping in mind that the majority (if not all) of these deaths could have been avoided if staff and visitors in aged care facilities wore high quality masks (and wore them properly) and all aged care residents were up to date with their Covid vaccinations (another government failure).

Go on... tell us. How many?

Of course, I should also mention that nearly 25,000 Australians (including all of the aged care deaths) could still be alive today if our governments had done their job and not allowed Covid to escape and run rampant followed by the removal of all Covid protections. like quarantine and masks, etc.

ShellShilo wrote on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 4:38pm:

You are really becoming obsessive and intransigent. I'm out!

Bye. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 7:22pm

Looks like the "computer glitch" or "whatever" has been fixed.

Another 31 Covid deaths in Australian aged care last week.

Not as bad as I was expecting (assuming the numbers are true) but still very bad. As well as tragic and unnecessary.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1812012213668049274

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 11 July 2024

🔹Active cases: 2,707 (-224)
🔹Active outbreaks: 357 (-13)
🔹Residents: 1,898 (-188)
🔹Staff: 809 (-36)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 726 (+31)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1812012217283531152

Quote:

6,852 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸726 reported deaths in 2024

Are we getting close to the number of aged care Covid deaths a year that are considered "acceptable" to aquascoot (and others) yet?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 15^th, 2024 at 6:22pm

And...

... continuing on from here (and that's another white flag aquascoot owes me, by the way)... here's Professor Deborah Lupton PhD with something to say about masks in sport:

https://x.com/DALupton/status/1812690167951708590

Quote:

In case you were ever in doubt about which social group is considered the most important to protect from C19 - it's elite sports competitors. Not babies, children, HCWs, teachers, older people, disabled people, people with chronic conditions etc etc ...

I never had any doubts about that whatsoever.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Jul 16^th, 2024 at 9:29am

Carl D wrote on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1812012217283531152

[quote]6,852 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸726 reported deaths in 2024

Are we getting close to the number of aged care Covid deaths a year that are considered "acceptable" to aquascoot (and others) yet?[/quote]

You're assuming there is a limit. There isn't.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 16^th, 2024 at 12:20pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 15^th, 2024 at 6:22pm:

I never had any doubts about that whatsoever.

people are inspired by elite sportspeople
they make life worth living for a lot of the population.
watch the passion and joy with which people line the streets for the tour de france
the world is a better place because of it.

people in aged care are suffering
they are often in positions of decay that, if they were an animal, we would insist that suffering stop on the basis of compassion
yet you show no compassion to the elderly person who is in bed all day with pressure sores, the indignity of loss of control of their bladder and the indignity and terror that must occur when dementia has set in and the person has no idea where they are or who anyone is.
you delight in making them suffer needlessly when drifting off with a respiratoty virus would be a blessing

shameful narcissistic stuff :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 16^th, 2024 at 1:36pm

I'm just waiting for aquascoot and his ilk to suggest that the elderly and other vulnerable people should just be taken outside and shot.

After all, they're no longer working and paying tax.

Or contributing to 'the economy' in any meaningful way.

With his farming 'background' I'm sure he has a lot of experience in that area when dealing with sick farm animals who are no longer of any (monetary) value to him.

So, why don't you just come right out and say it instead of 'beating around the bush' with your word salads?

And... I still believe you would make a great politician. You definitely have a 'talent' for it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jul 17^th, 2024 at 5:35pm

It is not like any Country Party/National politician has ever shown any evidence for having brains.

Before 1972:

Some drongo boring away when he says “I am a Country member” and Gough pipes up and says “We remember!”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 8:47am

Carl D wrote on Jul 13^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

Are we getting close to the number of aged care Covid deaths a year that are considered "acceptable" to aquascoot (and others) yet?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 16^th, 2024 at 9:29am:

You're assuming there is a limit. There isn't.

Yes, I'm afraid you're right. After all, we've been 'conditioned' to accept anything up to 1,000 flu deaths a year in Australia for decades.

Now we're being 'conditioned' to accept anything between 10,000 and 15,000 Covid deaths a year as well.

I've read somewhere recently that Australia is looking at 'resetting' (i.e. increasing) the baseline number for calculating excess mortality to allow for all of these Covid deaths every year so everything looks (almost) 'normal' again.

To keep the economy going, of course.

Quite bizarre, to put it mildly.

And again, I guarantee hardly anyone remembers Australia being (mostly) Covid and flu free for most of 2020 and 2021 with the border closures, testing, quarantine and masks, etc..

I foolishly believed at the time that governments and business would have stopped and said "hey, look at all the lives that are being saved, perhaps we should continue with all or at least some of these protections".

But, sadly, human greed and stupidity ended up winning, as usual (and we're now all losers as a result - at least healthwise).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 10:32am

Yes, Bupa... please explain.

https://x.com/silentanb/status/1813554704204583184

Quote:

If this isnt the surest sign that we are in a respiratory sh*tstorm and the actuaries know it, I don't know what is:
[Bupa excluding lung and chest hospital investigations and treatment of *pneumonia* from basic policies]
@Bupa
pls explain?

And, I'll bet the other health insurers won't be far behind... if they're not already doing it.

Also (just for aquascoot)... from the esteemed Dr. David Berger:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1813684384710685045

Quote:

The actuaries know what's happening.

Yes, I'm sure they do.

I consider health insurance providers to be one of the biggest scammers around these days (along with real estate agents and used car salesmen).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 6:19pm

And the disgraceful reaping of our elderly continues.

Another 30 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1814161420352938149

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 18 July 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,877 (-631)
🔹Active outbreaks: 255 (-79)
🔹Residents: 1,378 (-404)
🔹Staff: 499 (-227)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 757 (+30)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1814161422844367012

Quote:

6,883 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸757 reported deaths in 2024

Nothing reported from the States and Territories about other Covid deaths apart from those in Aged Care, of course.

And, as always, total silence from our heartless (and useless) pollies.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 22^nd, 2024 at 6:50pm

With the large number of elderly and other vulnerable people dying from Covid in Australia at the moment and the politicians (and the majority of the population) not giving a d@mn, I wonder how long it will be before we see some of these here?

Switzerland To Offer $20 ‘Suicide Pod’ Deaths to Citizens Who Can’t Afford Basic Necessities

Quote:

Citizens in Switzerland who are too poor to afford basic necessities are being offered the chance to be euthanized at a discounted price, the government announced on Wednesday.

The portable suicide pods will be used for the first time in Switzerland, allowing people with various illnesses, mental issues, or social problems to end their life for just $20.

Firstpost.com reports: The space-age-looking Sarco capsule, first unveiled in 2019, replaces the oxygen inside it with nitrogen, causing death by hypoxia.

I can just imagine our politicians (and a few of our forum members) having wet dreams about getting something like this.
Not just for 'dealing' with the elderly but also for 'dealing' with the increasing number of poor and homeless people (caused mainly by our useless politicians).

By the way... the movie Soylent Green was set in 2022... fiction becomes reality.

Quote:

It would cost $20 to use.

I have $100 right here... should be good for 5 politicians. :)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 24^th, 2024 at 4:48pm

i still dont get why you think deaths in aged care are a big deal , carl

are births in a maternity hospital not the norm?

what is the norm for a nursing home?

people staying a few weeks and then heading off home ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 24^th, 2024 at 4:56pm

Life expectancy for long-term care residents. In studies, median survival after admission to a nursing home ranged from 13.7 months to 2.7 years

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 26^th, 2024 at 7:32pm

Another 18 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1816670821022093692

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 25 July 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,428 (-285)
🔹Active outbreaks: 212 (-14)
🔹Residents: 1,019 (-235)
🔹Staff: 409 (-50)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 775 (+18)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1816670824323330421

Quote:

6,901 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸775 reported deaths in 2024

While this is a big reduction in deaths from previous weeks and months it is still unacceptable in my opinion... especially with the continuing silence from our useless politicians.

And, from Victoria (the only remaining State/Territory providing regular Covid death numbers - for now) - 228 Covid deaths between 12th June and 9th July.

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1816610771083886934

Quote:

Vic COVID update
"The number of people in hospital with COVID19 has decreased this week. The 7-day average is 148 (week ending 22 July) compared to 194 last week."
But with the lag "Deaths have increased. In the most recent 28-day period there were 227 COVID19 associated deaths."

Also...

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1816611061350694980

Quote:

Just a reminder that @VicGovDH
has decided to cease Covid wastewater reporting.

I'm sure it won't be long before the rest of the States and Territories do the same... the next step in making Covid 'magically' disappear (even though it hasn't and probably never will).

Oh... and I wonder where aquascoot is today?

Hope he isn't feeling unwell... maybe he's caught a "mild respiratory virus" or something? :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 26^th, 2024 at 11:04pm

I know why (and so does Tim).

But he must ask the question anyway.

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1816792447063888187

Quote:

Why does no one in the media say a word about this???

And, just like with the pollies, I'm sure it will be chirping crickets from all those he's 'tagged'.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 1:44pm

Zero.

Yes, zero.

https://x.com/JordanCrane2/status/1817359550766604658

Quote:

227 Victorians died in the last 28 days.

In August 2021, 61% of Australians said that less than 100 deaths per year was acceptable as we opened up.

0, the only number we should accept!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 1:58pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

Zero.

Yes, zero.

https://x.com/JordanCrane2/status/1817359550766604658

Quote:

227 Victorians died in the last 28 days.

In August 2021, 61% of Australians said that less than 100 deaths per year was acceptable as we opened up.

0, the only number we should accept!

It says zero deaths here:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 3:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:

It says zero deaths here:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Yes, Bobby.

Yes it does.

It also says zero cases for Victoria, WA, Tasmania and the NT for last week. Do you believe that?

Do you believe there were only 410 cases for the rest of the States and Territory last week?

410 cases for the whole of Australia in a week?

It also says zero deaths for the whole of Australia last week.

And yet there were another 18 deaths just in Australian Aged Care last week.

I've said this a couple of times over the past few months - Covid Live is no longer reliable. They've probably given up which isn't surprising when you consider how difficult our governments have now made it to find these numbers.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 3:54pm

carl,

governments respond to community concerns

clearly deaths in aged care are of no concern to the community

are the community concerned with births at maternity hospitals

no , because thats where you go to be born

and aged care is where you go to die

only you seem to not understand this glaringly obvious fact

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 4:44pm

Another boring word salad from aquacoot.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 5:07pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

Another boring word salad from aquacoot.

salad is good for you

when you go to aged care, you get slop and you die within 12 months

every schoolboy knows this

covid is the least of your problems

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 5:14pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:

It says zero deaths here:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Are you saying there's a conspiracy to cover up the true Covid deaths?

What about the true vaccine deaths?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 5:23pm

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:05pm

Another 15 deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1819237842993991781

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 1 August 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,634 (+174)
🔹Active outbreaks: 198 (+3)
🔹Residents: 1,197 (+136)
🔹Staff: 437 (+38)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 790 (+15)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1819237845602799719

Quote:

6,916 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸790 reported deaths in 2024

Cases and outbreaks increasing as well.

And, as usual, chirping crickets from our useless (and cowardly) pollies.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:11pm

Deaths

Fri 2 Aug - Total Confirmed Deaths ZERO.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:19pm

Good afternoon Bobby.

I've given my opinion about why Covid Live is no longer reliable these days - several times in fact (and the most recent time was just last week from memory).

Ah! Here it is.

forgiven.

namaste.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:26pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:19pm:

But 100s of people die in aged care every day.

forgiven

namaste

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 6:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 4:11pm:

Deaths

Fri 2 Aug - Total Confirmed Deaths ZERO.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Must have updated it since you posted that.

15 Covid deaths for the ACT.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/deaths

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1819266944585158897

Quote:

ACT weekly COVID update: 26 July to 1 August

🔹PCR cases: 65 (-18.7%)
🔹Deaths: 15 (+15)
🔹Total deaths: 347 (+15)
🔹Hospital: 12 (-20.0%)
🔹ICU: 1 (+1)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

The other States and Territories have either stopped reporting deaths altogether or they're only reporting monthly (except for aged care deaths - for now).

And Victoria seems to be more concerned about one death from a legionnaires' outbreak at the moment than the 8 Covid deaths a day (227 over 28 days) they've been having lately.

And I'm guessing the other States and Territories (especially NSW) would be almost or just as bad if they were still reporting deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:10pm

Good old WA... last again.

https://covidlive.com.au/

0 cases and 0 deaths this week. :-/

In fact, not even "0" deaths, it's "-" deaths.

But there's still quite a few people in hospital so it seems (unless it's old data from last year or something?).

And with the WA Government's "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination campaign still running... you know, the campaign that doesn't mention Covid at all (despite Covid being responsible for more deaths than all the other illnesses they mention combined) it's really nothing short of a miracle.

Feels like I'm back in 2021 (when WA really was still Covid free). ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:30pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:10pm:

carl

its just you and dr berger now carrying on the fight against this "mild resporatory virus"

the last of the mohicans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZisDHg6v0

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:30pm:

carl

its just you and dr berger now carrying on the fight against this "mild resporatory virus"

the last of the mohicans

Hmm..

Perhaps you could "shoot off" another quick email to your hero, Dr. ~~Death/Lex Luthor~~ Gerrard and ask him why Queensland's recently launched vaccination reminder advertising campaign has followed WA and doesn't mention Covid at all?

No hurry... you can even print out his reply when you get it and post it to me with all of those white flags I'm still waiting for.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:38pm

Oh... and if his answer is "consumer research" I'll be very suspicious because that was the "excuse" given by a spokeswoman for our State Health Minister for not mentioning Covid in the WA Government's campaign.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2165#2165

::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 9:29pm

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 11:00pm

covid19 is a vascular virus, not a respiratory one.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 4:26am

Carl D wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:30pm:

carl

its just you and dr berger now carrying on the fight against this "mild resporatory virus"

the last of the mohicans

i did

heres his reply

Hi Aqua,
i have so many letters from relatives of the very frail and elderly who were so grateful their mother or father got to pass peacefully from covid . it truly is the old mans friend.
modern medicine is so good at keeping people alive that many beloved parents were passing from a slow rotting decay.
now they get a cold, it settles in their chest, they have a peaceful sensation of drifting off to sleep.
it is the most wonderful thing.
callous virtue signallers like a certain Dr Berger, are a disgrace to the medical profession and hence we have collectively taken action to reprimand them.
wishing you all the best and know that you and i and the silent 99 % are on the right side of history.

sincerely

Jon

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 4:27am

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 11:00pm:

covid19 is a vascular virus, not a respiratory one.

not a respiratory virus?

says who?

you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 9:02am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 4:26am:

Who's Jon?

Sounds like someone who lives on the farm next to you in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

Is his name Jon Gerard?

Try again... it's John Gerrard, Queensland Chief Health Officer that you need to email.

If you can find some way to contact him directly, of course. I've had a quick look myself but there doesn't seem to be. I wonder why? :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 9:23am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 4:27am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 11:00pm:

covid19 is a vascular virus, not a respiratory one.

not a respiratory virus?

says who?

you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Says many people who know a lot more about Covid than you do.

Here's one:

Is coronavirus a disease of the blood vessels?

Dr Phoebe Kitscha explores how and why Covid-19 affects the whole circulatory system, and the research that is trying to tackle it.

Quote:

When Covid-19 first emerged, it was initially thought that – like other coronaviruses affecting humans – it mainly caused lung problems.

But as the outbreak progressed, case studies began to suggest that some of the most severe complications of the disease affected more than just the lungs. From reports of ‘sticky blood’ raising the risk of deep vein thrombosis, heart attack or stroke, to neurological effects, many complications seemed to be affecting the blood vessels.

And...

Every COVID Infection Increases Your Risk of Long COVID, Study Warns

Dec 27, 2023

Quote:

And then there's brain ~~fog~~ damage:

https://x.com/DaniBeckman/status/1769117085425402331

Quote:

COVID-19 will never be like the Flu. Never.
At least not for the brain.

Shall I continue? There's many, many more studies that show SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) isn't just a "mild respiratory virus".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2024 at 12:51pm

From The John Snow Project:

Are You Serious? COVID-19 Hasn't Gone Away?

Talk to most people about COVID-19 risks and a common response is, “If it was that bad, governments would do something about it.”

Quote:

We’ve written previously about the analogies to smoking and the historic role governments played in normalizing harm even after the risks were well proven.

While COVID-19 has been causing disruption at the Olympics and regions around the world report sustained high rates of transmission, just this week three studies have been published demonstrating COVID-19’s role in increasing the risk of deafness and harming the vascular system following acute infection, and causing immune dysregulation and cardiovascular damage in people with Long Covid. These join the many thousands of studies evidencing the short and long-term harm of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Yes, but it's "just a cold" now, isn't it?

And, a comment from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (just for aquascoot):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1819903178575650860

Quote:

I'm genuinely fascinated to understand how so much evidence of harm can have come to be ignored in such a short time. It tells us an incredible amount about how humans function in groups.

Yes, it does. And I am also genuinely fascinated.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2024 at 7:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2024 at 7:30pm:

carl

its just you and dr berger now carrying on the fight against this "mild resporatory virus"

the last of the mohicans

You mean this "mild respiratory virus"?

https://x.com/portna/status/1819760494485344305

Quote:

You know COVID is mild and affects only the weak, vulnerable and old, when Olympic athletes are dropping like flies.

Any comment to make about that?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 5:19am

youre talking to yourself now carl (because no one except you even remembers what covid was)

you are amping up your anxiety, flooding your body with cortisol , probably having poor sleep fearing this bug, ruining your immune system

google

"self fulfilling prophesy"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 7:56am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 5:19am:

And... there it is. Another white flag happily accepted by me.

Thanks. :)

Now, if you'll excuse me I have work to do continuing with putting in my application for the age pension with Centrelink seeing as I'm 67 today (Happy Birthday to Me [smiley=beer.gif]) and it's time to become a "leaner" and a "taker" (in your opinion) after I worked for 45 years then spent my super over the past 5 years (super will run out by the end of this year).

And, before you ask - I retired 5 years ago and lived off my super so I could take care of my elderly aunt and also take care of my own medical issues... prostate cancer and thyroid surgery.

Oh, and.... bite me!

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 12:18pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 5^th, 2024 at 5:19am:

hi carl

ive never actually encountered anyone who boasted on a public forum that he had spent all his super (meant to ease the burden on the taxpayer) and was now going to delight in bludging on their taxes.

most people who are mixing in society would understand how socially backward such a statement would be

you do get out and mix with your fellow humans dont you ?? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1821792250751545446

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 8 August 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,450 (-120)
🔹Active outbreaks: 195 (+10)
🔹Residents: 1,090 (-66)
🔹Staff: 360 (-54)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 811 (+21)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1821792253838553573

Quote:

6,937 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸811 reported deaths in 2024

And...

https://x.com/GlendaTooFunny/status/1821810986598502569

Quote:

Remembering a time we were told we’d protect our elderly …

Yes, I remember that time. And, I wonder where the 2.4 billion dollars went? Probably towards upgrading the airconditioning, ventilation and filters, etc. for the pollies all around Australia.

Disgraceful.

Plus, another 188 Covid deaths in Victoria between 6 Jun 2024 and 23 Jul 2024.

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1821696152720597359

Quote:

Vic COVID update
"The number of people in hospital with COVID-19 has decreased this week. The 7-day average is 119 (week ending 06 August), compared to 139 last week.
In the most recent 28-day period (26 Jun 2024 - 23 Jul 2024) there were 188 COVID19 associated deaths."

Also, while I'm here...

https://x.com/COVID19_disease/status/1821721841049690195

Quote:

⚠️ BREAKING

🇨🇳 China Faces New COVID-19 Surge with Recombinant Variant XDV.1

Recent reports from China reveal a concerning resurgence of COVID-19 driven by a new recombinant variant, XDV.1, which combines Delta and Omicron strains.

A combination of Delta and Omicron has the potential to be very, very bad.

But, I'm sure our governments will be able to convince the majority of the population that it's "just a cold", like all the other variants up until now (assuming the majority even hear about this, which I'm sure they won't. Not from the media, anyway).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:22am

Carl D wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 2:57pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:22am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

if it was me in aged care, that would be a welcome relief

what are you planning to do in aged care skip???

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 3:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 2:57pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:22am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

if it was me in aged care, that would be a welcome relief

what are you planning to do in aged care skip???

If it were hospice I'd tend to agree, but your lack of humanity is appalling.

If I make it to aged care, I hope I'd not be sharing it with people of the likes of you, those who are unworthy of the gift of life.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 3:50pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 2:57pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:22am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

if it was me in aged care, that would be a welcome relief

what are you planning to do in aged care skip???

please explain the difference between a nursing home and a hospice in terms of how people spend their day

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 10:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 3:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 2:57pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:22am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:57pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

if it was me in aged care, that would be a welcome relief

what are you planning to do in aged care skip???

please explain the difference between a nursing home and a hospice in terms of how people spend their day

Changed the goal posts again?

Who said anything about a nursing home, it's aged care.

They're not the same thing.

My mother is in her early 80's in aged care. She has some medical issues that require a nurse so she made the choice to move in there.

She still has a car, she's still active in the community, she just lives in aged care.

There are many like her there too.

She didn't want to be a burden on her kids and refused to stay with us and use something like Blue Care, so we let her make her own choices.

Maybe you'll be lucky, maybe we'll all be lucky, and you'll expire soon before you'll need aged care. Perhaps you've already got nobody left given the glimpse into the person you really are by the posts you make here.

The thought of growing old must be a lonely and sad existence for you. No wonder you see dying from COVID more preferable than aged care.

But if you're thinking like that already, just remember you're in control of your life, you can choose how it ends.

Don't dawdle though.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am

aged care = nursing homes moron

average time to death from admission to nursing home = 11 months

the left PRETEND to be the people of compassion

It is pure BS

compassion means you stand for a reduction is human suffering

allowing people to slowly decay in old age is the definition of suffering , moron

you think they just die of "old age'

if you remove compassionate deaths like covid, you are left with a horror show

The RSPCA would prosecute anyone who let an animal die thus

The lefts compassion is basicly non existant

And in other policy areas their desire to make people victims is also a gaurantee to increase human suffering

when a conservative tries to encourage improvement and personal responsibility to break the cycle of victimhood (a state of pure suffering), the evil leftie mocks the idea

disgraceful disgusting selfish creeps

and with the insolence to pretend to be holier then thou ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 8:59am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

The lefts compassion is basicly non existant

So, if that's true (and it isn't) then you're a "lefty" now, are you? Because you seem to have zero compassion (at least when it comes to the human elderly).

Oh, and I've read somewhere that Centrelink currently have something like 340,000 Age Pension applications to process (340,001 with mine just added :)).

No wonder the government is more than happy for Covid to keep 'taking out' the elderly to save money on pensions and healthcare costs as I've said many times before.

And, as I've also said before - they're getting away with this (for now) because the majority of the population don't know about this national disgrace and the pollies believe that as long as they keep silent the majority of people will never know.

And, sadly, they're probably right.

I also suspect aquascoot is a little 'envious' of the elderly and the age pension because by the time he reaches the current pension age of 67 it will probably have been put up to 70 or more (or the age pension will be 'abolished' altogether).

Too bad, so sad (for you).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 10:11am

I'd be surprised if he wasn't already taking an aged pension and blowing it all on the track right away.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 11:55am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

lol

the compassion of the leftie intellectual telling people they disagree with , to go kill themselves ;D ;D

the irony

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 11:56am

Carl D wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

The lefts compassion is basicly non existant

where did i say pensioner , fool

i said people in nursing homes ::) ::) ::) ::)

you know, the ones leftie intellectuals cry crocodile tears over ::) ::) ::) ::)

like you posting the stats for nursing homes and then conflating that with all pensioners ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Might be just me but I suspect that a lot of the elderly in Aged Care ("nursing homes") are also on the Age Pension.

Anyway... whether the elderly are in Aged Care on the pension or at home on the pension I'm certain the government would lke to see as many as possible 'drop off the perch' from Covid and other illnesses to save money.

And, I strongly suspect people like aquascoot would like to see that too. Or, at the very least they just don't care.

aquascoot's post last week was another big clue for me (I knew the words "leaner" and taker" would trigger him). ;D

Especially when it was posted in response to me saying I did something which I was perfectly (and legally) entitled to do and I had very good reasons for doing it.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:34pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

You just proved aqua to be correct ... compassion is non-existent with you lefty lot. You have convinced people that you are "compassionate', but it's all politics, isn't it?

You don't really have any genuine compassion for anyone. If you were on the battlefield, you'd be asking the wounded if they were rightwing or leftwing, then you'd treat them accordingly

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 1:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 11:55am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

lol

the compassion of the leftie intellectual telling people they disagree with , to go kill themselves ;D ;D

the irony

Oh, so you don't like it when people treat your life with the same disdain you show others...?

The irony...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 1:38pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

It was an experiment to see how he would react to people treating his life with the same disregard he shows to others.

Interesting reaction time him and the usual suspects...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 5:22pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 7:37am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

Sounds like you'd better end your life before you get to that stage, do us a favour and make it sooner than later yeah?

It was an experiment to see how he would react to people treating his life with the same disregard he shows to others.

Interesting reaction time him and the usual suspects...

oh it was just an experiment

my bad ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 13^th, 2024 at 2:26pm

As well as the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in Aged Care we also have things like this:

https://x.com/alijzimmerman/status/1822604050652684588

Quote:

It's an absolute disgrace.

I stood in a regional ICU almost 2 weeks ago and watched a very close friend die, from a hospital acquired infection of covid.

He was infected by either a healthcare worker, another patient, or a visitor.

"Absolute disgrace" is an understatement.

Quote:

It is only a matter of time before the lawsuits begin, and as far as I'm concerned the quicker, the better.

Yes, the quicker, the better.

Alison lives in Australia, by the way. Could be Melbourne or Sydney, not too sure. She doesn't say in her profile.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 13^th, 2024 at 2:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

oh it was just an experiment

my bad ;)

Funny how you react when people treat you, like you treat others.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13^th, 2024 at 3:17pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

As well as the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in Aged Care we also have things like this:

https://x.com/alijzimmerman/status/1822604050652684588

Quote:

"Absolute disgrace" is an understatement.

[quote]It is only a matter of time before the lawsuits begin, and as far as I'm concerned the quicker, the better.

Yes, the quicker, the better.

Alison lives in Australia, by the way. Could be Melbourne or Sydney, not too sure. She doesn't say in her profile.[/quote]

hi carl

this person was already in ICU

do you think they just maybe might have had something wrong with them that got them there in the first place?

do you ever engage your brain ::) ::)

as the husband of a hospital nurse, your allegations are absolutely disgusting

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 13^th, 2024 at 3:41pm

Do you think this person would still be alive today if they hadn't been infected with Covid while in hospital?

All because staff don't want to wear masks and hospitals don't want to pay for them.

And... masks DO work, by the way.

Hospitals don't even want to pay for the maintenance of the few "air cleaners" they have and would prefer to put them into storage instead.

Disgraceful (and criminal) stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 5:50pm

And, another 15 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1824309254712353180

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 15 August 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,538 (+92)
🔹Active outbreaks: 207 (+16)
🔹Residents: 1,147 (+57)
🔹Staff: 391 (+35)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 826 (+15)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1824309258248392824

Quote:

6,952 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸826 reported deaths in 2024

Denis still continues the exercise in futility with 'tagging' Anika Wells and Anthony Albanese.

Wells hasn't posted anything on X since last November and Albanese is too busy looking for photo ops (anywhere except in Aged Care, of course).

In other words - neither of them care.

Disgraceful stuff. Wouldn't you agree, aqua?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 23^rd, 2024 at 6:22pm

Still no end in sight.

Another 22 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1826814798111416764

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 22 August 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,159 (-176)
🔹Active outbreaks: 164 (-23)
🔹Residents: 865 (-125)
🔹Staff: 294 (-51)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 848 (+22)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1826814800988664032

Quote:

6,974 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸848 reported deaths in 2024

Disgraceful.

And, some reporting from the States this week:

47 Covid deaths reported in South Australia for the past month (they only report monthly - for now).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1826805777090122041

Quote:

SA weekly COVID update: 23 August 2024

🔹PCR cases only: 237 (+11.2%)
🔹Deaths: 47 (+47)
🔹Total deaths: 1,863 (+47)
🔹Hospital: NR
🔹ICU: NR

NR = Not Reported

Not reporting hospital admissions there, of course. Which isn't surprising considering the shambles that is SA Health these days... ambulance ramping off the scale, etc., etc.

Victoria - another 134 Covid deaths between July 10th and August 6th.

https://x.com/AndrewHewat/status/1826765473796817321

Quote:

Vic Covid update
"The number of people in hospital with COVID-19 has increased this week. The 7-day average is 112 (week ending 20 August), compared to 106 last week."
"recent 28-day period (10 Jul2024 - 06 Aug2024) there were 134 COVID19 associated deaths"
Notice a pattern yet?!

Yep, I've noticed it.

Another 2 Covid deaths in the ACT this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1826843694097698850

Quote:

ACT weekly COVID update: 16 August to 22 August

🔹PCR cases: 58 (-27.5%)
🔹Deaths: 2 (+0)
🔹Total deaths: 354 (+2)
🔹Hospital: 5 (-68.7%)
🔹ICU: 0 (+0)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

And lastly seeing as Queensland doesn't provide ANY Covid data at all these days, just like WA (apart from wastewater sampling for WA - for now)... how about that whooping cough there, eh?

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1826448434821582974

Quote:

Queensland whooping cough cases skyrocket amid vaccine hesitancy. By Jackie Sinnerton

"Case numbers have exploded 6900%, with 7000 already recorded so far this year – up from 100 in the same period last year."

I'm sure aquascoot's hero, John ~~Dr. Death/Lex Luthor~~ Gerrard would say that it's "necessary" for everyone to get whooping cough to build that "wall of immunity" like he said about Covid nearly 3 years ago (and we've seen how well that's been working out, haven't we?).

And, finally... from The Vertlartnic... says it all, really.

(Won't be long before all Covid reporting stops, in my opinion).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

Just got back from a shopping center supermarket.

It was full of germs -
a woman coughed all over her right hand and then used the same hand
to work the screen at the self checkout.
Many people were coughing and sneezing everywhere without
covering their mouths and noses.
It's disgusting and so unhygienic.
I think I'll have to go back to early morning or late night shopping.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

A total, deliberate Public Health messaging failure by our governments, isn't it, Bobby?

Were you wearing a (high quality) mask?

Because hand washing/sanitising won't stop you catching airborne viruses (and governments know it).

No Amount of Hand-Washing Can Make COVID-19 a Seasonal Virus

Looks like Covid (and flu, RSV, Mpox, etc.) conscious people like me will be wearing a mask in crowded places for the rest of our lives.

The alternative will be to get increasingly (and possibly permanently) sick with repeated infections.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:55pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

There should be security guards kicking those dirty people out of the shopping centers
but even at the height of Covid they never did.
They should be fined $10,000 for each offence.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 6:06pm

Another 9 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1829410138505011640

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 29 August 2024

🔹Active cases: 969 (-158)
🔹Active outbreaks: 140 (-15)
🔹Residents: 754 (-90)
🔹Staff: 215 (-68)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 857 (+9)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1829410142028489137

Quote:

6,983 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸857 reported deaths in 2024

9 deaths in a week is the lowest number for quite some time but it is still 9 deaths too many in my opinion.

Meanwhile, another 5 Covid deaths in the ACT reported this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1829380100917514652

Quote:

CT weekly COVID update: 23 August to 29 August

🔹PCR cases: 49 (-15.5%)
🔹Deaths: 5 (+66.6%)
🔹Total deaths: 359 (+5)
🔹Hospital: 6 (+20.0%)
🔹ICU: 1 (+1)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

No Covid death numbers from the other States, of course.

But, if the death numbers we saw from Victoria over the past few months are any indication I would guess that the other States are having many deaths, especially NSW, SA and probably Queensland as well.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 9:36am

Not Australia this time but the UK.

After seeing vaccination advertising campaigns here by the WA and Queensland governments that don't say anything about SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) we now have the "new" UK Labour government doing the same thing.

https://x.com/GwynneMP/status/1829190663419900286

Quote:

School is just round the corner 🍎

Now is the time to catch up on any missed vaccines to make sure your child is protected from measles and other diseases as they head back to the classroom or nursery this autumn.

There were 115 replies as of the time I posted this and 99% of them were asking why Covid isn't mentioned.

Like this one:

https://x.com/CounsellingSam/status/1829197865933213813

Quote:

Who's paying you to avoid talking about Covid and #LongCovid, Andrew?

Yes, I wonder about that too.

And especially this one:

https://x.com/DavidFoxon2/status/1829274254803656793

Quote:

You are owned, I think you're complicit. Why won't you talk about SARS-COV2?

It's literally your job!

"New" government, same sh!t, different party. Just like we got here with Albanese and his bunch of incompetents 2 years ago.

Yes, and I also think he's complicit. They're all complicit... nearly every government in the world. Especially Western governments.

And, yes... it is literally his job (this will probably be amended or disappear from the relevent UK government website soon, if it hasn't already).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 11:22am

hi carl

did you read his responsibilities list carefully

he is responsible for the

"VACCINE DAMAGE PAYMENT SCHEME'

doesnt that tell you something about the radio silence on covid vaccines?

or are you too stupid to see the link ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:19pm

Be careful, aquascoot.

You seem to be slipping further and further down that antivaxxer rabbit hole with each passing week.

You'll end up bumping into Bobby and Sir Nail when you get to the bottom.

And, seeing as Andrew Gywnne isn't doing anything so far about the #1 item (COVID-19) at the top of his responsibilities it could take him a while to get to #6 (Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme).

But, I'm sure you'll notice it doesn't say "COVID-19 Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme".

Sadly, other vaccines have caused health issues besides the small number caused by the Covid vaccines but these numbers are insignificant compared to the milllions of lives the vaccines have saved.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 1:27pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:19pm:

anti vaxxer rabbit hole ? :D :D :D

your dementia is setting in.

we have already established that the vast majority of australians have not had their covid vax ,up to number 7 now for yourself i believe ?

seems the whole country agree with me and think you are down the rabbit hole, mr bugs bunny ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. at least you have dr berger ( the sanctioned tin foil hate wearing conspiracy theorist) to keep you company .

he can eat your word salad ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 1:47pm

lol... I always have to laugh when aquascoot talks about someone else's word salad right at the end of one of his own.

;D ;D ;D

Oh, and again (for about the 10th time) why would people bother to get any more Covid vaccinations when now they believe "the pandemic is over", "it's just a cold" or "it's just like other common respiratory viruses"?

Especially when we've seen governments running vaccination advertising campaigns (WA, Queensland and now the UK) that don't mention Covid at all - despite the fact that Covid is still causing more sickness and deaths than all of the other illnesses in their campaigns combined.

By the way - I'm still waiting for some proof that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus" as you keep claiming.

Susan here would like to know as well.

https://x.com/SusanDavidsonM2/status/1830075262207168528

Quote:

I think that the burden of proof should be on those who claim that "Covid is like other common respiratory viruses".

I haven't seem any science at all to support that assumption, but I have seen masses of scientific publications that say the opposite.

So, if you let me know when you have that proof it will be much appreciated.

I'm guessing you might be busy with organizing to send all those white flags you owe me (add another one after this post, btw) but you can leave those for now if you'd just hurry up with that proof.

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 1:57pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 1:47pm:

lol... I always have to laugh when aquascoot talks about someone else's word salad right at the end of one of his own.

;D ;D ;D

Yes, it is amusing.

Regarding COVID, my mother's agency carer told me this morning that many of her elderly clients have COVID at the moment.

And, an ambulance crew who attended my mother the other night said that RPH was full of it again.

It's everywhere! :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 2:24pm

That's not good, Greg.

We're supposed to be at the 'end' of the latest Covid wave here in Perth at the moment.

COVID-19 wastewater surveillance - WA Department of Health

I'm sure the next wave will be starting soon if what's been happening in the US over the past few months is any indication, at least one new variant has caused a huge wave there and I'm sure that variant is already here in Australia.

I've been trying to work out the best time to take my aunt to her dentist in Perth City for a check up and clean. I thought right about now might be good but now I'm not so sure.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 7:47pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 7:57pm

Good evening Sir Nail.

Who said all the "unjabbed" would be dead after 3 years?

And I'm pretty sure it wasn't James Tiberius Kirk (that picture is from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier).

(Bonus points for anyone who can tell me what he's doing there and who he's talking to) :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 7:57pm:

That's what they were telling us at the time. Scare mongering to scare people to take their monkey snot injections just like geoff did. He took one too many the poor chap :(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 11:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:

That's what they were telling us at the time.

Who was telling you that?

Quote:

Scare mongering to scare people to take their monkey snot injections

I've had 6 Covid vaccinations since June 2021 (2 AstraZeneca, 2 Pfizer and 2 Moderna) and I'm pretty sure none of them contained "monkey snot".

And, I wasn't "scared" into taking them with any "scare mongering".

And I feel perfectly fine. No ill effects whatsoever from any of them.

I am also certain the vaccinations were the main reason why my elderly aunt and I didn't have any major problems dealing with Covid when we caught it for the first time a year ago (she has also had the same 6 vaccinations as I have).

Quote:

just like geoff did. He took one too many the poor chap :(

What is this obsession you seem to have with Geoff lately? And what makes you think he "took one too many"?

Oh, before I go... here's the answer for the bonus points in my last post. 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am

I'll continue this here (from this thread).

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 5:24am:

Carl D wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Ahhh... Queensland.

That magical land of bananas, tourists, theme parks and a CHO who believes it is "necessary" for everyone to be infected (repeatedly) with a BSL-3 virus (SARS-CoV-2) to attain that mythical herd or hybrid immunity.

A land that never had/has any hospital or healthcare workers off sick with the abovementioned virus or any other viruses.

Amazing.

Unlike WA where I was told on the two occasions when I took my aunt to Royal Perth Hospital since July that they had quite a few staff off sick with Covid or the flu most of the time these days.

And nothing has changed since then as Greg mentioned yesterday.

And I suspect it's the same everywhere else in Australia.

But not in the magical land of Queensland, of course.

Where do I sign up to move over there?

hi there dumb dumb .

one of the rorts being run was that staff automaticly got 7 days paid leave if they could test positive .

of course, most were assymptomatic as we know this is a very weak virus

much less then influenza A my missus tells me

as YOU pointed out some old guy in aged care has had covid 5 times

how weak is this virus ;D ;D

anyway, management got sick of staff posting on facebook at the beach or at dreamworld when they were supposedly "sick" with covid , so they cut if back to only 2 claims a year.

of course all the slackers just keep their one positive RAT and then message a pic to the nurse unit manager when they want a week off at taxpayer expense

and because AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU 46 % of nurses are thinking of quiting and they are already worked to death by old fat immobile entitled dickheads pissing the bed thru laziness, when staff take a week off the others just get smashed even harder

so yes covid has made nursing much worse and a lot of good nurses are leaving due to the fat lazy entitled buzzer ringing patients.

it has nothing to do with covid you clown

now you and gweg get your elderly relatives up to cas so the burnt out staff can care for them whilst you and gweg lecture us on trump for the 140,000th time

and then you can tell us how virtuous you both are ::) ::) ::)

My original reply there still stands, by the way.

Anyway... you're trying to tell us (again) that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is a "very weak virus".

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

So, where is the proof?

I'm not expecting an answer anytime soon, of course.

Actually, I'm not expecting an answer ever.

What I am expecting, however, is for you to ignore the question and run away like you've done after every single time I've asked you this before (and then you usually come back days or weeks later and repeat the same BS).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 10:26am

This gentleman (tern) is a pastor in the UK and it sounds like he's having a conversation with someone like aquascoot.

https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1830520830465397233

Quote:

I don't often push in conversations, but yesterday I pushed.

Him: "Why don't we see T so much any more?"

Me: "He has Long Covid."

Him: "No, he doesn't, he has a post-viral condition after that infection he had last year."

Me: "You mean after that Covid infection?"

Here's the rest of it:

Quote:

Him: "It didn't sound like Covid."

Me: "Do you know what symptoms he had when he was ill."

Him: "It was a stomach bug, wasn't it?"

Me: "A stomach bug and chest infection. During a wave of a covid variant that frequently caused gastric issues."

Quote:

Me: <quickly looks up news story about Covid symptoms last autumn>

Him: "Oh. <pause> He doesn't think it's long covid."

Me: "No. Do you think that his opinion is what determines what it is?

Quote:

Him: "No."

Quote:

There was so much going on in that conversation.

I pushed because it started with a passive aggressive accusation that someone in our community had stopped being involved because of some flaw in my leadership or character. "Why don't we see T so much any more"

Quote:

So, yeah, I'm defensive, but I'm also pissed off.

It drives me nuts that people who *are aware* of the harm that 'an infection' can do are trying to pretend that Covid can't do that damage.

Quote:

Why try to pretend it was something else?

Can't we try to reduce the risk of all harmful infections?

That's what we used to do.

Quote:

We're in this bizarre contorted world mindset where people twist their view of the world to pretend that everything is back to 2019 normal, when it isn't. It just isn't.

Quote:

They'll tie themselves up in deluded knots to deny reality.

Quote:

And the problem with that is that the more knots you tie, the more twisted your mind becomes, and the more you become vulnerable to other knot tiers.

Quote:

You get caught up in not just your own set of knots, but in the knots of professional and amateur knot tiers both good intentioned and bad intentioned.

Quote:

And when your mind and life are tangled, you're controllable, manipulable, steerable.

Quote:

The more lies you believe, the more you want to believe.

Quote:

And then it all breaks

The first reply says it all:

https://x.com/LadyChuan/status/1830594873973784838

Quote:

They literally can’t say the word.

It’s like a computer glitch where certain programs are no longer recognized because they have been erased from the hard drive’s memory.

Quite bizarre. Not just in the UK but also here in Australia and most of the world nowadays.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 12:44pm

By the way... your "very weak virus" has caused over 1,000 deaths a week in the US for the past 3 weeks.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1830469716051456024

Quote:

🇺🇸US weekly COVID update: 177,573 new cases and sadly 1,262 new deaths.

"This is the third week in a row with more than 1,000 new COVID deaths in the U.S."

I thought the pandemic was supposed to be over?

Truly horrifying.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:38pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

I'll continue this here (from this thread).

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 5:24am:

Carl D wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:

hi there carl

stop obsessing over covid and go watch your aunt to make sure she doesnt fall and break her wrist again

you would make a lousy nurse

always focusing on the irrelevant whilst there are real dangers

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:40pm

as for the piddley numbers of people dying WITH covid

consider this

Each year, there are about 3 million emergency department visits due to older people falls.2
Each year, there are about 1 million fall-related hospitalizations among older adults.2
In 2019, 83% percent of hip fracture deaths and 88% of emergency department visits and hospitalizations for hip fractures were caused by falls.3
Each year, nearly 319,000 older people are hospitalized for hip fractures.3
Falls are the most common cause of traumatic brain injuries (TBI).

i suppose thats just a yawn to you ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:56pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

What I should have said was: "... ignore the question and run away or try to distract us with irrelevant (in response to the question) word salads".

Still waiting for the proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "weak virus".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:57pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 9:20am:

So, I'll ask (again) - where is the SCIENTIFIC proof that this virus is now "weak", "just a cold" or a "mild respiratory virus"?

Because, as someone said the other day:

Quote:

how about YOUR claim that an aged care patient had now had it 6 times :D :D :D

how piss weak is that :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:59pm

why is carl anti-science??

On 5 May 2023, the WHO Director-General announced that WHO no longer considered COVID-19 to be a PHEIC

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 2:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:57pm:

how about YOUR claim that an aged care patient had now had it 6 times :D :D :D

how piss weak is that :D :D :D :D

I didn't make the claim, it was posted by a doctor on X earlier this year and I posted it here. And, no... I am not going to search for it again.

Actually, from memory it was 7 times... and the person concerned was just about "on death's door" according to the doctor. He/she may have died since then, I don't know.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 1:59pm:

why is carl anti-science??

On 5 May 2023, the WHO Director-General announced that WHO no longer considered COVID-19 to be a PHEIC

Is this the same WHO Director-General (Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus) who said Covid was airborne at a press conference in February 2020 but quickly changed that to "droplet based" after Dr. Mike Ryan (sitting next to him) whispered in his ear and passed him a note?

A "mistake" that has cost millions of lives since then.

As well as the massive amounts of time and money wasted worldwide on things like "keep a 1.5 meter distance between people" signs and floor stickers, perspex screens for supermarket checkouts, hand sanitiser everywhere, etc., etc.

Yep, sure sounds like the sort of organization and people we should trust with our health and lives.

Still waiting for that proof, by the way.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 3:24pm

Oh, and please... PLEASE don't tell me the WHO were so stupid and incompetent they didn't know that as soon as they announced the end of the PHEIC for Covid last year, governments and the media worldwide (especially Western governments like ours) would 'pounce' on this and proudly announce "The Pandemic Is Over".

Because that's exactly what happened. And most people believed it, of course.

Much celebration followed but most of the celebrating was done by the virus which now has virtuallly unlimited access to billions of human hosts with the opportunity to create endless mutations for itself and continue with more and more death and sickness.

Don't forget that proof. Thanks.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 4^th, 2024 at 7:05pm

While aquascoot is still looking for proof that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus", here's some more proof that it isn't.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1831207685964140843

And straight from the "horse's mouth" so to speak (Australian Bureau of Statistics).

As of July 31st, 2024.

Quote:

ABS data: Deaths due to acute respiratory infections by state and territory of registration by 31 July 2024.

🔹COVID: 2,503
🔹Influenza: 310
🔹RSV: 78

Deaths due to COVID in 2024:

NSW: 832
VIC: 653
QLD: 414
WA: 260
SA: 212
TAS: 81
ACT: 42
NT: 9

Source: https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/deaths-due-covid-19-influenza-and-rsv-australia-2022-july-2024

No wonder we haven't seen any Covid death numbers from New South Wales for a long time now... they've had the most Covid deaths so far this year (as I've suspected for a while). Followed by Victoria and Queensland.

"Mild", my @ss.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 10:02am

And... an eerie silence descends upon the thread after real proof is presented from the ABS that this "mild respiratory virus" or "weak virus" is still over 8 times more deadly than the flu here in Australia.

What will aquascoot's next move be?

* Sarcasm?
* Name calling?
* Disappear from the thread for a few days?
* Consult Mrs. aquascoot (who presumably knows a lot more about this than he does seeing as she works in a hospital)?

Stay tuned. :)

Oh, and while you're pondering your next move, perhaps you could shoot off another quick email to your hero, CHO John Gerrard, and ask him why Queensland's recent vaccination advertising campaign (just like WA's) didn't mention Covid at all when Queensland has had...

* 414 Covid deaths.
* 62 Influenza deaths and
* 34 RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) deaths (Wow! Highest in Australia for RSV).

...for 2024 up to until July 31st.

I'll be waiting with bated breath for you to post his reply. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

And I'm sure you're perfectly fine with that happening?

Yes, of course you are.

Same as our governments are perfectly fine with it because of all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs (as I've said many times before).

By the way... Covid is (and has been) killing young people and infants too. More than the flu does.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:19pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

wrong :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 4:35pm

The old should die, so the young can get their dicks wet and drink beer. That's always been scoot's philosophy.

And there is a line in the sand where it makes sense.

The young who need to be building their lives to support the next generations until it's their turn should not have to sacrifice everything for the elderly who are clinging onto life in their late 90's.

The problem is Scoot has set the age far lower than that, mid 60s even.

And it's also important to note that the idea of working to support a community and not just an entirely selfish endeavour is also counter to much of Scoots rhetoric so it's extremely kind for me to assume this is his intention.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:19pm:

Carl D wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

wrong

Covid Is Way More Lethal to Kids Than The Flu

In the US, nearly six times more kids and teens died from Covid in one year than did from the flu, according to a new analysis of pediatric mortality data.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 9:00am

H5N1 "bird flu" again.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1833015348372623413

Looks like they've dragged CMO Kelly out of hibernation to do a bit of 'minimising' for something that has a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) in humans.

https://x.com/scarletp1792/status/1833041494871347364

Quote:

Meanwhile the CMO is very alert, very alert but not alarmed…

Also he says there’s “no evidence … that it would cause serious illness in humans”

Where have I heard that before 🤔

https://x.com/Sophs0123/status/1833289532902674870

Quote:

Why is Paul Kelly still CMO?! How many Australians have died from COVID because of his mistakes?!! He misled the public into thinking Omicron is ‘mild.’ I fear for the health & lives of Australians if H5N1 arrives here…

Yes, why is he still CMO?
And, yes... we are going to be totally screwed if/when H5N1 arrives here (if it hasn't already).

Someone said on X the other day that they might apply for the job of CMO next time it becomes available because there doesn't seem to be much work involved... and you get a big fat taxpayer funded pension when you retire, of course.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:03pm

And...

... while we have the government and CMO (Chief Minimising Officer) Paul Kelly telling us there's nothing to worry about, along comes this:

US Confirms First Human Case of Bird Flu With No Known Animal Trace

Quote:

Another person has fallen ill with bird flu in the United States, but this time, public health officials don't know how they caught the highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (HPAIV).

Thankfully, the patient has recovered, but they are the 14th person to fall ill with bird flu in the US this year, and the first patient with "no immediate known animal exposure", according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

All previous human cases were among workers who had contracted the virus from sick animals on poultry or dairy farms. This new case is a mystery the CDC is desperately trying to solve.

On August 22, an adult patient tested positive for the avian virus at a hospital in the state of Missouri, where only poultry and wild birds have previously tested positive for the H5N1 strain of the virus.

Tick tock... tick tock... time is running out.

As I've said before... if this "bird flu" (and Mpox) goes full human to human transmission (if they haven't already) it will be fascinating to watch how the government tries to convince everyone that it's "just a cold" like they've done with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

I have a feeling it's going to be a 'hard sell', even with a population as selfish, stupid and gullible as ours.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

hi carl

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

meanwhile

Heart attack is a leading cause of hospitalisation and death in Australia, claiming on average 19 lives every day. That's one person every 74 minutes. An estimated 430,000 Australians have had a heart attack at some point in their lives, and every year, 57,000 Australians suffer a heart attack.

dont spend significant time on insignificant things

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

How many Australians died of COVID-19 in 2019?

Quote:

Heart attack is a leading cause of hospitalisation and death in Australia, claiming on average 19 lives every day. That's one person every 74 minutes. An estimated 430,000 Australians have had a heart attack at some point in their lives, and every year, 57,000 Australians suffer a heart attack.

And how much of that is caused by (repeated) Covid infections these days?

Quote:

dont spend significant time on insignificant things

Yes, I agree with you for once.

I do spend way too much time reading and replying to your posts.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

How many Australians died of COVID-19 in 2019?

Quote:

And how much of that is caused by (repeated) Covid infections these days?

[quote]dont spend significant time on insignificant things

Yes, I agree with you for once.

I do spend way too much time reading and replying to your posts.

:)
[/quote]

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections ;D ;D ;D

and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections ;D ;D ;D

Do I? Where did I say that?

However, I do think (and I've said this before) you should be a politician.

Quote:

and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

Sir Nail has gone so far down the conspiracy/antivaxxer nutter rabbit hole there's absolutely no chance he'll ever find his way out (and Bobby isn't too far behind him).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 5:15am

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections ;D ;D ;D

Do I? Where did I say that?

However, I do think (and I've said this before) you should be a politician.

Quote:

and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

Sir Nail has gone so far down the conspiracy/antivaxxer nutter rabbit hole there's absolutely no chance he'll ever find his way out (and Bobby isn't too far behind him).

carl has gone so far down the rabbit hole of "safetyism" theres no way he'll ever find his way out (and gweg isnt far behind him )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 8:19am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 5:15am:

carl has gone so far down the rabbit hole of "safetyism" theres no way he'll ever find his way out (and gweg isnt far behind him )

Hey, aquascoot.

Ever heard of this?

Precautionary principle

Quote:

The precautionary principle (or precautionary approach) is a broad epistemological, philosophical and legal approach to innovations with potential for causing harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking.

It emphasizes caution, pausing and review before leaping into new innovations that may prove disastrous.

Our governments (reluctantly, apparently) applied this in dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) pandemic at the beginning (until it became obvious the virus wasn't going away like the original SARS virus did 20 years ago and it also became obvious that the virus wasn't becoming "mild" or "just like a cold").

And, this "Precautionary Principle" should definitely apply to even more dangerous viruses like "bird flu" and Mpox but because our governments have 'painted themselves into a corner' with their (ongoing) disastrous handling of Covid they're now too afraid (and more concerned about their precious economy - especially with an election coming up) to even recommend basic protections like quarantine and masks.

Perhaps you should also include this "Precautionary Principle" in your numerous word salads about "Personal Responsibility"?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 1:44pm

ah

the 'timid' approach to life :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

Back in the US again.

https://x.com/BNOFeed/status/1835513580575215910

Quote:

Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 150,210 est.
- Average: 166,986 (-4,752)
- In hospital: 5,299 (+3)
- In ICU: 625 (+5)
- New deaths: 1,232
- Average: 1,281 (+24)

Note: Limited data

And...

https://x.com/MeetJess/status/1835580128929198420

Quote:

5000 people have died in a little over a month.
Seems awfully high for a pandemic that’s “over”.

And this is an undercount

Yes, it does.

And, yes, I'm sure it is.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 17^th, 2024 at 5:22am

Carl D wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Back in the US again.

https://x.com/BNOFeed/status/1835513580575215910

Quote:

Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 150,210 est.
- Average: 166,986 (-4,752)
- In hospital: 5,299 (+3)
- In ICU: 625 (+5)
- New deaths: 1,232
- Average: 1,281 (+24)

Note: Limited data

And...

https://x.com/MeetJess/status/1835580128929198420

[quote]5000 people have died in a little over a month.
Seems awfully high for a pandemic that’s “over”.

And this is an undercount

Yes, it does.

And, yes, I'm sure it is.[/quote]

hi there carl

it seems the government you love so much when it is doing what you like has revealed its true colours now it is doing what you dont like.

you put your trust in them and they let you down

you are totally correct

they want you to die

5000 deaths is 5000 more houses on the market and 5000 less pensions

has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health.

clearly albo wants you gone

even i can see it

they dont even advertise covid vaccines

they want you dead mate

you and the million or so other older suatralians are just a burden and they need that cash for their green energy dreams

you have been betrayed

they are not going to help you

you are on your own

abandoned

anyone who isnt a pet interest group is just nothing to them

albo probaly gets slightly erect knowing his budget is getting better as covid does the jobe for him

but keep voting labor ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 17^th, 2024 at 8:51am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 17^th, 2024 at 5:22am:

hi there carl

it seems the government you love so much when it is doing what you like has revealed its true colours now it is doing what you dont like.

you put your trust in them and they let you down

you are totally correct

they want you to die

5000 deaths is 5000 more houses on the market and 5000 less pensions

has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health.

clearly albo wants you gone

even i can see it

they dont even advertise covid vaccines

they want you dead mate

you and the million or so other older suatralians are just a burden and they need that cash for their green energy dreams

you have been betrayed

they are not going to help you

you are on your own

abandoned

anyone who isnt a pet interest group is just nothing to them

albo probaly gets slightly erect knowing his budget is getting better as covid does the jobe for him

but keep voting labor ;)

I've been looking at this word salad for the past 5 minutes and I'm still trying to work out if it's meant to be sarcastic or not?

Because (shock, horror) I agree with what you've posted and you are correct (for a change) except for:

1. "the government you love so much".

I do not - and never have - loved the government. Any government. Quite the opposite, in fact.

2. "has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health."

Yes, it has - and yes, I do. But you should have already known that.

3. "but keep voting labor"

Nah... I don't think so. I voted Labor from when I became eligible to vote in 1975 up to and including the last Federal and State elections.

But - never again. And I won't be voting Liberal so don't worry about that.

Now I'm just going to sit back and wait for aquascoot to appear and try to tell us he didn't post any of that (maybe his alter ego "Mr. Ed" hijacked his account?) ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 17^th, 2024 at 1:16pm

its not sarcastic at all.

politicians thought they could get votes early in covid by presenting themselves as the people who would "keep you safe"

now that there is no votes in covid and they are under the pump with housing shortage, knocking off 5000 old homeowners a year and seeing them come on the market makes political sense

5000 homes at maybe a million each is 5 billion worth of housing, they dont have to build

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 9:48am

Yes, of course.

Tell us something we didn't already know.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1836542322835857645

Quote:

Why Albanese never wanted a COVID royal commission. By Scott Prasser

"Because the government wanted to avoid exposing any of the five Labor states and territories that held office during the pandemic to any detailed scrutiny."

(Click on the images to read the article because the direct link is paywalled, as usual).

After all the "We have a plan to tackle Covid" BS and the attacks on Scott Morrison from Albanese before the Federal election he and his useless government did absolutely nothing (except make things worse by removing all remaining protections).

The replies (so far) are in the attached image:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 6:30pm

Ah, yes... the "you do you" era of COVID mitigation.

People can't make "risk assessments" without knowing the risks

Julia Doubleday
Sep 17, 2024

Quote:

As politicians pushed us all “back to normal”, a common refrain from the top was that we “had the tools” to deal with COVID, and that individuals could now make their own decisions about what sorts of risks they were comfortable taking.

I’ve written at length about the absurdity of attempting to individualize what is a collective problem. What was once a libertarian, far-right wing idea - disease control should be the territory of individuals, not society at large- was first promoted by Republicans, then mainstreamed by liberals in order to paint Biden’s failed vaccine-only herd-immunity strategy as a success.

As we settled into a cycle of endless waves of disease driven by rapidly evolving new variants, our government and public health bodies continued to promote the fantasy that everyone can make their own decisions about whether or not to get infected.

Of course, anyone who does make the “risk assessment” that catching COVID is unsafe for them is functionally shut out of society. It’s hardly a choice freely made, as the social and economic punishments for failing to “return to normal” continue to intensify.

But it wasn’t enough to snatch away free tests, vaccines and COVID treatments, all but eliminate the isolation period for active infections, and push people to view disease control as a personal responsibility. Along with instructing people to make their own “risk assessments” about COVID, our government also downplays, minimizes, and flat out denies the risks of recurrent infections.

Quote:

For example: COVID causes cognitive damage. That seems like an important piece of information to give the American public while you encourage them to make risk assessments about whether to contract it every year, does it not?

What about parents deciding to send their kids back to schools with zero precautions?

Should they be warned that COVID carries a significant risk of brain damage following infection, before deciding whether it’s a good idea to let their children catch it twice a year?

And if that information is quite deliberately kept from the public by the same bodies failing to provide collective mitigations, are you asking people to make “risk assessments”, or are you just pushing them to catch COVID?

This is in the US but it also applies to Australia and most of the rest of the world.

And, from Tim (the ex virologist):

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1836680723346100280

Quote:

Ahhhhhhhh

The @AlboMP
special

The pretend PM tried many times, as protections were removed by him, to say it was up to individuals to “assess their own risk”

Bit hard to do when he removed every last vestige of Govt reporting

I wish he’d stay in Delaware with Joe

Yep, me too.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 1:53pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Ah, yes... the "you do you" era of COVID mitigation.

People can't make "risk assessments" without knowing the risks

Julia Doubleday
Sep 17, 2024

Quote:

[quote]For example: COVID causes cognitive damage. That seems like an important piece of information to give the American public while you encourage them to make risk assessments about whether to contract it every year, does it not?

What about parents deciding to send their kids back to schools with zero precautions?

Should they be warned that COVID carries a significant risk of brain damage following infection, before deciding whether it’s a good idea to let their children catch it twice a year?

And if that information is quite deliberately kept from the public by the same bodies failing to provide collective mitigations, are you asking people to make “risk assessments”, or are you just pushing them to catch COVID?

This is in the US but it also applies to Australia and most of the rest of the world.

And, from Tim (the ex virologist):

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1836680723346100280

Quote:

Yep, me too.

[/quote]

a labor PM telling people to take "personal responsibility"

this will not go down well with those who see themselves as "eternal infants"

carl suffers from learned helplessness

here is one of his pleas for help to albo....

help!

help!

please help me

albo, please help me

i thought you were my mummy albo

can i suck on your booby albo

dont leave me albo

i am incapable of "personal responsibility" ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 6:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

a labor PM telling people to take "personal responsibility"

this will not go down well with those who see themselves as "eternal infants"

carl suffers from learned helplessness

here is one of his pleas for help to albo....

help!

help!

please help me

albo, please help me

i thought you were my mummy albo

can i suck on your booby albo

dont leave me albo

i am incapable of "personal responsibility" ;D ;D ;D

Ever thought of creating and entering a Vogon Poetry competition?

You'd win for sure.

Meanwhile, there have been another 5 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1837016332145152268

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 19 September 2024

🔹Active cases: 803 (+134)
🔹Active outbreaks: 117 (+18)
🔹Residents: 582 (+106)
🔹Staff: 221 (+28)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 882 (+5)

Outbreaks and cases are on the increase again.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1837016334783369377

Quote:

7,008 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸882 reported deaths in 2024

And, the usual silence from the pollies. of course.

Disgraceful.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 7:40pm

Vogon poetry? Too, too cruel Carl!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 3:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 7:40pm:

Vogon poetry? Too, too cruel Carl!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogon poetry is the third worst in the universe.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings wrote the worst with the Azgoths of Kria in second place.

I'm sure aquascoot's word salads would easily put him in first place. ;D

Anyway...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1837395153155510691

Quote:

Sick leave soars amid flu, COVID and cold collision. By Kate Aubusson

"Personal leave among employees of small businesses soared in August to more than 38% above the pre-COVID baseline and 14.3% points higher than in August last year."

https://archive.md/scxNc

Quote:

The storm of influenza, pneumonia, colds and other germs circulating this winter drove a massive surge in the number of Australians taking sick leave.
Payroll data from business management platform MYOB shows sick, carers, and personal leave among employees of small businesses soared in August to more than 38 per cent above the pre-COVID baseline and 14.3 percentage points higher than in August last year.

I wonder when the government and business will wake up to the fact that sick (or dead) people don't work, shop, take overseas and interstate holidays, etc.?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 10:44pm

Amanda Hu on X:

https://x.com/amandalhu/status/1837666676307026080

(You may have to click the speaker icon at the bottom right of the video to hear it).

Quote:

lol @22_Minutes
this was pretty good actually. It captured how absurd our current reality is quite well

Yes, it most certainly does.

ABC... Anything But Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 5:15am

Carl D wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 7:40pm:

Vogon poetry? Too, too cruel Carl!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://archive.md/scxNc

[quote]The storm of influenza, pneumonia, colds and other germs circulating this winter drove a massive surge in the number of Australians taking sick leave.
Payroll data from business management platform MYOB shows sick, carers, and personal leave among employees of small businesses soared in August to more than 38 per cent above the pre-COVID baseline and 14.3 percentage points higher than in August last year.

I wonder when the government and business will wake up to the fact that sick (or dead) people don't work, shop, take overseas and interstate holidays, etc.?[/quote]

hi ya carl

still trolling on line and obsessing on twitter rather then tending to your sick aunt

by the way, as you point out, this is a disease killing nursing home residents

how many of them are currently commuting to work, hitting the shops and ringing flight centre to organise their next trip?

most are probably hoping for a calm and dignified death

this is only available in the form of the "old mans friend" aka pneumonia

covid is their friend

now, insult me again by calling my informative post "word salad" and maybe have a go at my wife for not masking up whilst looking after sloppy entitled old whingebags in the failing public hospital system ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 8:17am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 5:15am:

hi ya carl

still trolling on line and obsessing on twitter rather then tending to your sick aunt

Not trolling.

Not obsessing.

And, my aunt is elderly, not sick. Oh, and she has a 'message' for you. It consists solely of a raised middle finger. Hope you enjoy it. :)

Quote:

by the way, as you point out, this is a disease killing nursing home residents.

Yes, yes it is. And it is disgraceful that our governments won't lift a finger to prevent any of these deaths, let alone acknowledge them or, at the very least, offer condolences to the families.

But I'm sure they're thinking about the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs, as I've said many times before.

Quote:

how many of them are currently commuting to work, hitting the shops and ringing flight centre to organise their next trip?

If you're talking about the elderly then obviously most of them are probably retired and no longer working.

As for holidays, I believe quite a lot of elderly people do take interstate and overseas holidays. I always find it interesting that the monthly Senior Newspaper we get here usually has the first half of the paper devoted to how (financially) tough things are for seniors these days but the second half of the paper is almost exclusively ads for holidays (especially cruises).

But, (and I'm sure you knew it) what I was talking about when I said "I wonder when the government and business will wake up to the fact that sick (or dead) people don't work, shop, take overseas and interstate holidays, etc.?" is this:

Long COVID cost Australian economy about $9.6 billion in 2022

And, it's been getting worse since 2022.

You'd think the pollies would be concerned about that if nothing else. But it would require them to admit they stuffed up with their "vaccines only and let it rip" failure and they're now too gutless (and worried about lawsuits... and elections) to admit it.

Quote:

most are probably hoping for a calm and dignified death

this is only available in the form of the "old mans friend" aka pneumonia

Really? I wouldn't call hacking up a lung and gasping for air a "calm and dignified death".

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covid is their friend

Sure it is. ::) See above.

I'm hoping that the latest, even more contagious XEC Covid variant which has been running rampant in the UK and Europe and has now arrived in Australia (so much for those "I don't have any illnesses" declarations people have to complete before flying to Australia, eh?) "makes friends" with some of our pollies and hits them really, really hard.

Especially when many people in the UK have reported on social media that they cannot even WALK after catching this latest variant and feel sicker than they've ever been in their lives.

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now, insult me again by calling my informative post "word salad" and maybe have a go at my wife for not masking up whilst looking after sloppy entitled old whingebags in the failing public hospital system ::) ::)

No worries... your "informative" (lol) post is a word salad. As usual.

And, if your maskless wife believes her job consists of "looking after sloppy entitled old whingebags in the failing public hospital system" then perhaps she's in the wrong line of work?

However, I strongly suspect that's probably more to do with the way YOU see her job.

Oh, and I wonder who's responsible for the "failing public hospital system" in Queensland? Go on, have a guess... and when you figure it out perhaps you could "shoot off" another quick email and ask him why he isn't doing his job.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 12:54pm

way too long

i'm not reading 'war and peace" from some old codger with severe death anxiety ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 2:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 12:54pm:

way too long

i'm not reading 'war and peace" from some old codger with severe death anxiety ::) ::)

White flag accepted.

Again.

I might have to rent one of those self storage places to keep them all... if you ever get around to sending them to me.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 2:17pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 2:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2024 at 12:54pm:

way too long

i'm not reading 'war and peace" from some old codger with severe death anxiety ::) ::)

White flag accepted.

Again.

I might have to rent one of those self storage places to keep them all... if you ever get around to sending them to me.

:)

i tried to send them but gweggy stole them to wipe off his keyboard

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 24^th, 2024 at 9:29am

My mother died partly of pneumonia because it had turned septic. I have had a pneumonia inoculation plus a booster. I assume Mum would have had the first shot but not the booster.

While her death was a tragedy at least she died before the dementia took away her knowledge of her kids (she didn’t recognise my younger sister earlier, which broke my sister’s heart.) But we went to lunch there twice just before her death so she relearned her youngest child.)

I guess Mum did just lie on her chair in the lounge for two days before I had her taken to the local hospital. Old people’s friend?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:11pm

And look what we have here...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1843517798582297056

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Chief medical officer Professor Paul Kelly to retire.

"Professor Kelly’s last day in the department will be 21 October 2024."

After that Guardian 'puff piece' let's see what a few people think about that, shall we?

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Maddie
@136sooverit62
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
He's just collected his salary for 4 1/2 years as he's done SFA except deny the seriousness of Covid-19. Hope he gets a 'good retirement/Christmas gift' like the one he wished on all of us!

Oct 8, 2024 · 5:12 AM UTC

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💜JaguarBeesOz-Indoor Air Quality Legislation
@bees_oz
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
This is such good news. 🥳🎉
I thought he'd leave last year. He's obviously remained in the job to maximise his salary for his superannuation benefits.
I hope Brett Sutton is brought in & we get a move on.
#CovidIsAirborne #CovidIsNotOver #CleanAir

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Denise C.
@SpudBenBean
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Can't come soon enough ...
'Dry tinder' 🤬
'No different to any other respiratory virus' 🤯
'Hybrid immunity' 🤨

Oct 8, 2024 · 5:13 AM UTC

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Jordan Crane
@JordanCrane2
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Is this because of the upcoming c19 inquiry?

Oct 8, 2024 · 6:03 AM UTC

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Matt Nisselle
@MNisselle
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Hooray!!!
I hope he doesn’t sail off into the sunset though; there’s still his reckoning on the horizon!
Hopefully…

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Alix
@Stuckonaredrock
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Preparing for future health threats while failing to procure vaccines for the current ones🤦‍♀️

Hopefully the next CMO might prioritise existing vaccine & medication shortages whilst reclaiming the role of public health from politicians who put the business lobby front & centre.

Oct 8, 2024 · 6:02 AM UTC

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Dan Jago
@dj1au
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
His lack of expertise, leadership and advice led to thousands of deaths and disability.

Professor Kelly’s lack of expertise, and poor communication provided false reassurance to the public

Oct 8, 2024 · 7:06 AM UTC

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Appit
@Appit15
2h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
It's not like he's done anything of note. He's been the acting head of the CDC since 1st Jan 2024 - I've only seen them appear in the news once since then.

🤔 Think that was only the announcement it had an office!!

Like many before him, he skips away with a healthy pension.

Oct 9, 2024 · 8:31 AM UTC

And many more just like that.

Finally... from Tim (the ex virologist):

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Tim 🇦🇺🇮🇱
@LettersfromTim
Oct 8
I think I speak for many Australians when I say

GOOD RIDDANCE

To this sociopath who facilitated the quiet slaughter of tens of thousands of vulnerable Australians

Agreed.

Now, when do we get rid of aquascoot's hero Dr. Death/Lex Luthor in Queensland?

Come to think of it... where IS he these days? Has he gone into hiding again while Covid and other viruses run rampant (especially the new XEC Covid variant that's caused/ is still causing chaos in the UK, Europe and now Australia)?

And when do we get rid of "Butterballs"? That's Mr. bad Elvis impersonator (and good for nothing else) by the way.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Setanta on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:11pm:

And look what we have here...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1843517798582297056

Quote:

Chief medical officer Professor Paul Kelly to retire.

"Professor Kelly’s last day in the department will be 21 October 2024."

After that Guardian 'puff piece' let's see what a few people think about that, shall we?

[quote]
Maddie
@136sooverit62
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
He's just collected his salary for 4 1/2 years as he's done SFA except deny the seriousness of Covid-19. Hope he gets a 'good retirement/Christmas gift' like the one he wished on all of us!

Oct 8, 2024 · 5:12 AM UTC

Quote:

Jordan Crane
@JordanCrane2
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Is this because of the upcoming c19 inquiry?

Oct 8, 2024 · 6:03 AM UTC

Quote:

Matt Nisselle
@MNisselle
Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Hooray!!!
I hope he doesn’t sail off into the sunset though; there’s still his reckoning on the horizon!
Hopefully…

Quote:

And many more just like that.

Finally... from Tim (the ex virologist):

Quote:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:31pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Now you're using X as evidence of something like LastNail? Anonymous posts as evidence of something? Peas in a pod?

Unlike Sir Nail's "evidence", a lot of these people are real people with real medical knowledge.

And, you really can't argue with cold, hard evidence, can you?

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

And that's just this year so far.

While I'm here, I'll also add this:

Exhibit C

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🇺🇸US weekly COVID update: 91,800 new cases and sadly 1,209 new deaths.

"This is the 8th week in a row with more than 1,000 new COVID deaths in the U.S."

Pretty scary stuff for a pandemic that's supposed to be over.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 14^th, 2024 at 6:40pm

Wow.

And it would be the same for the rest of Australia (if the other States and Territories apart from Victoria were not 'hiding' these numbers).

Thousands of patients caught COVID in NSW hospitals last year and hundreds died, new data shows

Quote:

In short:

At least 6,007 patients caught COVID in NSW public hospitals in 2023 and 297 died — about 115 infections and six deaths per week, on average.

Experts say infection control protocols are not good enough, with some doctors warning widespread indifference to COVID is costing too many lives and adding unnecessary pressure to the health system.

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Thousands of patients caught COVID in NSW public hospitals last year and hundreds died, fuelling concerns among infection control experts and healthcare workers that hospitals are not taking strong enough precautions against airborne viruses.

NSW Ministry of Health data released under freedom of information laws shows at least 6,007 patients caught COVID in hospital in 2023 and 297 died — about 115 laboratory confirmed infections and six deaths per week, on average.

Similar figures were recorded in the first few months of 2024, with 1,729 patients catching COVID and 86 dying between January and April this year. For context, about 2,100 people died from or with COVID in NSW in 2023, suggesting about 14 per cent of those were patients who contracted the virus in hospital.

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The data was released following an application by lawyer Peter Vogel who, for 18 months, was pointed between the Ministry of Health — which initially denied holding "complete and accurate records" of hospital acquired COVID infections — and the Clinical Excellence Commission, which directed Mr Vogel back to the Ministry of Health, which eventually released the data he had sought.

Yes, thank you to Peter Vogel for continuing to pursue this.

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Hospitals know how to stop COVID spreading

Stéphane Bouchoucha, president of the Australasian College for Infection Prevention and Control, said the new figures were "concerning and tragic" especially for the families of people who had died.

"We know how COVID is transmitted and we know how to prevent healthcare associated infections," Dr Bouchouca said — by ensuring good ventilation and air filtration, testing and contact tracing, isolating infected patients and requiring healthcare workers to wear masks.

If hospitals were recording similar numbers of deaths from golden staph infections, Dr Bouchoucha said, swift action would be taken. "But I think people react differently because it's COVID — 'It's alright, it's a respiratory disease, it's not so bad' — trying to minimise the fact it is still a healthcare associated infection," he said.

"This is the core business of infection prevention and control … The premise that we can allow some deaths, to me, is wrong."

Yes, it is wrong. And all because a large number of noisy, complaining healthcare workers don't want to wear masks.

From Tim, the ex virologist:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1845619124724289584

Quote:

Well done @psvbluemts
- without your efforts this data would remain hidden by @NSWHealth

Yes, I'm sure it would. Hidden forever, no doubt. As long as the population are working, shopping and spending nothing else matters to our pollies and big business.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 8:11am

Yes, disgraceful stuff indeed.

After finding out that Victoria has a 10% fatality rate for hospital acquired Covid last year (also obtained under Freedom of Information laws) we've now seen that NSW has a 14% fatality rate.

I wonder what the rate is for the rest of Australia, especially Queensland? Probably at least 10% by the look of things.

No wonder our governments have been trying so hard to keep all of this 'swept under the rug' to the point where they're too scared to even mention the C(ovid) word anymore.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 4:32pm

hi carl

the big hotel owners and airlines who are big political donors told albo that this covid crap was costing their bottom line

hence covid is over

surely you know thats how politics works

now run along and let albo get on with freeing up some houses and cash as old people drop off the perch

thats about all albo sees you and your ilk as useful for ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:22pm

Tragically, there's been a huge increase in Covid Aged Care deaths in Australia this week.

74 reported deaths.

Cases and outbreaks are also on the increase again.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689450542236076

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 24 October 2024

🔹Active cases: 907 (+309)
🔹Active outbreaks: 142 (+46)
🔹Residents: 653 (+204)
🔹Staff: 254 (+105)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 970 (+74*)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689572462276828

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*64 deaths reported in the last week are due to delayed reporting from a single aged care service provider.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689453192937970

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7,096 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸970 reported deaths in 2024

And the majority of Australians continue to be blissfully unaware (and uninformed by government and the media) of this ongoing tragedy while the pollies continue their cowardly 'vow of silence' regarding all things Covid related (except for thinking and probably talking amongst themselves about all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs, of course).

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:29pm

That's weird -
they are only reporting 2 Covid deaths for the whole of Australia today for the last week:

https://covidlive.com.au/

Fri 25 Oct - Total Confirmed Deaths

2 deaths in the ACT.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

... I've said this many times but Covid Live is no longer reliable and hasn't been for some time now (altough they are correct with the 2 reported ACT deaths this week).

It isn't their fault though - it's due to our Federal and State governments 'hiding' or delaying reporting of Covid deaths these days to try and maintain the illusion that the pandemic is over.

Anyway... while I'm here... I wonder if we'll see this reported in the media here? (Spoiler alert: Probably not).

Japan COVID deaths 14 times that of flu after guidelines lifted

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More than 30,000 people in Japan died of COVID-19 in the first year after most coronavirus-related guidelines were lifted in May 2023, a figure over 14 times higher than deaths caused by influenza during the same period, government data showed Thursday.

Coronavirus infections led to 32,576 deaths during the 12 months, with those aged 65 or older accounting for 97 percent of the total, while the number of influenza fatalities reached 2,244, according to the health ministry's vital statistics.

But, just like Australia, I'm sure the pollies there are pleased and don't care that 97% of these deaths are people aged 65 and over.

The esteemed Dr. David Berger sums it up well:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1849581119781704183

Quote:

Once it became apparent that it was mainly just Grandma and Grandpa who were going to die, and thus the impact was concealable and plausibly deniable, all effort evaporated.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1849582213815521328

Quote:

The 'dry tinder' people, the people who said Grandma and Grandpa had 'had their moment and it was now time for them to be sacrificed for the younger generation', well they won. And now we live with an endemic, repeatedly infecting, debilitating virus with long term consequences.

Yes. Exactly like Australia. And the US, the UK, Canada and many more.

And no doubt cheered on by the likes of aquascoot and his ilk.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:54pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

It says -

https://covidlive.com.au/

COVID Live data is collected from media releases and verified against state and federal health departments.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 5:00pm

OK, I'm out for the day.

I feel a headache coming on.

Anyone else want to take it from here and play with Bobby?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 1:51pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 5:00pm:

OK, I'm out for the day.

I feel a headache coming on.

Anyone else want to take it from here and play with Bobby?

No one wants to play with you either.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

Thank you Bobby.

Your forgiveness means a lot to me. ::)

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to imagine what would be happening if 74 elderly Australians had died in a bus crash last week.

It would be the leading news story on every TV station and on the front page of every newspaper in the country for at least a week.

And the pollies (especially that fraud Albanese) would be all over the media offering their fake condolences to the families.

74 aged care deaths from SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) and all we have is chirping crickets from the media and the pollies.

As I said - disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 3:45pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

When you're old you're expected to die at any time from any cause -

even tripping on a mat and falling on to soft carpet.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 8:26am

So, if it wasn't for Covid, most or all of those 74 aged care residents would still be alive today.

Same as the 790 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of this year.

And I'm also sure that most of the 7,096 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of the pandemic would still be alive.

And most of these deaths are mainly due to staff and visitors, tradesmen, etc. not wanting to wear a mask - same as with hospitals and other healthcare settings.

And you're OK with that?

I see.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 12:23pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 8:26am:

hi there carl

YOU SAID and i quote

"covid is just as big a threat to the healthy as to the unhealthy"

so how come it is the old and frail and unhealthy who are dying and not the staff, visitors and tradesmen.

care to rectify your lie ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 12:23pm:

Ah, there you are.

When you were 'missing' from here for a couple of days I was wondering if it might have been busy on that little farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

Or you might have caught that "mild respiratory virus" you keep telling us about.

Or you might have been looking for the (long awaited) proof that Covid is now "mild" or "just a cold".

So, any luck with that? :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:33pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 12:23pm:

i've had it carl, as have 99 % of the population.

and they found it "mild"

because they are "healthy"

a liar like you states the following

"covid is just as big a threat to the healthy as to the unhealthy"

the population know you are "lying" :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 6:36pm

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 7:15pm

Despite the 'distraction' of the US elections this week we are still having Covid Aged Care deaths here in Australia.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1854761689906135233

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 7 November 2024

🔹Active cases: 973 (+79)
🔹Active outbreaks: 178 (+27)
🔹Residents: 770 (+111)
🔹Staff: 203 (-32)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 988 (+6)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1854761692615369017

Quote:

7,114 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸988 reported deaths in 2024

Disgraceful stuff.

And, speaking of disgraceful stuff - look what we have here:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1854762442326523929

Quote:

Queensland: Chief Health Officer John Gerrard resigns from Qld government role. By Taylah Fellows

"Premier David Crisafulli has revealed Dr Gerrard tendered his resignation on October 13 during caretaker mode."

I'm sure aquascoot will be upset that his hero, Dr. Death/Lex Luthor has suddenly resigned.

Another one 'riding off into the sunset' hoping to escape the accountability that they should be facing for Australia's disastrous 'let it rip' Covid policy which has resulted in over 25,000 deaths (so far) and countless Long Covid cases (and by "accountability" I don't mean our recently concluded sham of an inquiry).

As the saying goes... the Internet keeps receipts.

Let's see what a few of the punters have to say, shall we?

Quote:

Miel
@Mielgray
2h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Hmmmm. One CMO and two CHOs gone, within weeks

Nov 8, 2024 · 7:05 AM UTC

Quote:

Not This Little Black Duck 💉💉💉💉😷⚖️☮️
@YoiksAndAway
3h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Good riddance
But the #COVID Minimisation & spread task was achieved 🤬🚮

Quote:

KellySeven🐀
@KellySeven3
2h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Yes! Hope the next one is better. :)

Pretty much have to be.

Nov 8, 2024 · 6:37 AM UTC

Quote:

Kym
@Poupon123
3h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
He’ll be missed..... as if....

Nov 8, 2024 · 5:50 AM UTC

Quote:

Good Luck with Everything
@DS59074747
1h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Yay good news for a Friday

Quote:

Dan Jago
@dj1au
1h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Perhaps he saw the writing on the wall, given the ALP were expected to lose.

His attempt to deny long covid, telling everyone it was necessary to get infected.

And, allow me add my very own "GOOD RIDDANCE GERRARD".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 7:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 12:23pm:

I got covid coming back to Australia from Europe last week. It's irritating but no biggie. And I only had the two AZ shots back whenever, 2021. Probably well and truly ineffective by now, if not always.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 1:00am

And there's still no end in sight to the Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care.

Another 13 deaths this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1857298818028675161

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 14 November 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,359 (+384)
🔹Active outbreaks: 196 (+23)
🔹Residents: 1,043 (+271)
🔹Staff: 316 (+113)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 1,001 (+13)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1857298820855738853

Quote:

7,127 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,001 reported deaths in 2024

1,001 Aged Care Covid deaths this year alone. And not a word from the pollies, as usual. Disgraceful (and cowardly) stuff.

Meanwhile, Covid cases are on the increase around the country again, just in time for Christmas (as usual).

https://x.com/Mike_Honey_/status/1857326160960712759

Quote:

Australian COVID-19 weekly stats update:

The risk estimate is up sharply to 0.8% Currently Infectious, or 1-in-122. That implies a 22% chance that there is someone infectious in a group of 30.

No doubt this is the XEC variant which was recently brought into the country just like all it's predecessors.

This is the variant that had people in the UK and Europe saying on social media that they've "never felt sicker in their lives" with some saying they were even unable to walk for some time after getting infected.

But, here in Australia it's "she'll be right, mate. I'm sure it's just a cold" as usual. Yep, sure thing (not).

But, just keep working, shopping and spending (until you drop - and possibly quite literally drop).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 1:09am

And, if that's not bad enough, look what's coming soon:

Teenager in critical condition with Canada’s first human case of bird flu

Quote:

A teenager is in critical condition in a British Columbia children’s hospital, in what is believed to be Canada’s first human case of bird flu.

“This was a healthy teenager prior to this, so no underlying conditions,” said the provincial health officer Bonnie Henry in a news conference on Tuesday.

“It just reminds us that in young people this is a virus that can progress and cause quite severe illness and the deterioration that I mentioned was quite rapid.”

Seems like this is something that won't just 'bump off' the elderly so the young can flourish, does it, eh, aquascoot?

This H5N1 "bird flu" is now very, very close to becoming a human to human direct transmission (and probably airborne) variant. If it hasn't happened already.

And, with it being 30 to 40 times more deadly than Covid (which is still at least 10 times more deadly than the flu) we are in for a rough ride.

Of course, I'm sure our governments will try to ignore or minimise this as much as possible for as long as they can but I predict they will have a very hard time getting everyone to believe this is "just a cold" like they've managed to do with Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 12:04pm

75 pages of carl wetting his pants over the sniffles :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 12:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 12:04pm:

75 pages of carl wetting his pants over the sniffles :'( :'(

Let's see what happens soon when we have a lot of very sick people who will probably have no idea why they're so sick.

And, the few that may be able to figure it out (or someone 'in the know' tells them) will be wondering and asking why the government didn't warn them or attempt to do anything to stop it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 1:20pm

Tim the ex virologist is spot on with his comments as always:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1857605800669446506

Quote:

Just in time for Xmas

Where are the JN.1 vaccines @Mark_Butler_MP
?

3 YEARS IN A ROW

You’ve FAILED to ensure Australians have updated vaccines to protect against circulating variants

3 YEARS demonstrating you and @AlboMP
don’t give a damn

Thousands are DEAD because of you

Yes, yes they are.

And yes, they don't give a damn.

Disgraceful stuff.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:00pm

Anyway... I've posed this question several times before but here goes again (I know I'm just shouting into the void here as usual but nevermind...).

So... Australia is supposed to have some of the toughest (if not the toughest) biosecurity laws in the world which are (presumably) meant to protect the population from harmful (and deadly) things like... well... viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

If that's true then why are we swimming in endless Covid (and flu, RSV, mpox, etc.) soup (except for the wonderful short time in 2020 and 2021 when Australia was virtually Covid and flu free due to border closures, testing, quarantine and other protections)?

And what's the deal with this declaration that every person flying to Australia is supposed to complete before boarding the plane stating that they are not sick or carry any infectious diseases? Especially when we see people posting on social media about being on a plane (and they're usually the only one wearing a mask) surrounded by coughing and sneezing people that the airline staff were apparently quite happy to let board the plane.

If our supposed "toughest in the world" biosecurity laws and this alleged "I'm not sick" declaration prior to coming to Australia were enforced (which they obviously are not) then Australia should still be Covid and flu, etc. free. Right?

Seems like our biosecurity laws only apply when it comes to protecting the economy. For example - Australia's quick response to a potential foot-and-mouth outbreak in cattle and the government's current panic about H5N1 "bird flu" (but they're only concerned about the economic impact of H5N1 at the moment).

Let's see what happens when H5N1 goes human to human airborne transmission...we'll probably get 'chirping crickets' from the government and the media like they've now done with Covid.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:30pm

Respiratory infections are fatal for the elderly and the otherwise unwell, not anyone else.

It used to be said that 'pneumonia was the friend of the elderly" meaning it was an infection that knocked them over relatively quickly, sparing them long periods of agony.

Deaths due to acute respiratory infections by age and sex
More males have died from COVID-19 compared to females across 2022-2024. The reverse has been true for influenza and RSV.
Those aged over 90 years are the only age group to consistently record more deaths of females than males from COVID-19. Nearly two thirds of Australia's population of persons aged over 90 years are female.
More females (355) than males (319) have died from influenza in 2024.
All three of these acute respiratory infections are more likely to cause death in older age groups than younger age groups.

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/deaths-due-covid-19-influenza-and-rsv-australia-2022-september-2024

See also

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/life-expectancy-deaths/what-do-australians-die-from/contents/what-do-the-very-old-die-from

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 7:26pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

carl,

i know a lot of people.

i have NEVER met ANYONE who engaged in a conversation obsessing over whether people on airplanes were filling out their cough symptoms correctly before boarding a flight

it would be of zero interest to anyone

i imagine qantas just throw them in the bin

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sophia on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

After being away a month overseas in September just gone… I’m going to say… it seems a lot of coughing everywhere… it’s just normal and all sorts of reasons… allergies is a big one.
I found whenever I got in a bus to travel… I have a need to start clearing my throat, and I get sniffles… out comes the tissues.
I decided to put a mask on to see it symptoms subsided and they do.
Wherever we went, there’s a cough here, there, everywhere. Planes and buses.
Just something hubby and I noticed… there are lots of sounds of coughs from various people all around.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Yeah, I've just checked and they may as well throw these in the bin:

Incoming Passenger Card - Australia

As I suspected, not worth the paper (or cardboard) it's printed on.

"If you are NOT an Australian Citizen: Do you have tuberculosis? Yes/No"

lol... I wonder if the airline staff would notice if someone boarded the plane with tuberculosis? It's quite possible they wouldn't - and even if they did the passenger would probably still be allowed to fly anyway ($$$ again).

I'm also wondering if that means it's OK to fly to Australia if you do have tuberculosis as long as you're an Australian Citizen? ::)

And they seem to be more concerned about illegal pornography, tobacco and alcohol than they do about infectious diseases like Covid that has killed over 25,000 Australians so far.

Mind you, the card hasn't been updated since July 2019 (how convenient - just before the ongoing Covid pandemic started).

Of course, questions 6 to 11 are obviously more to do with protecting the economy... what a surprise!

What a sick joke (literally).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:28pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

What action do you recommend?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:34pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:28pm:

What action do you recommend?

Stopping obviously sick people coming into Australia would be a good start. You know, the ones hacking up a lung and blowing their noses endlessly when they arrive at the airport to board the plane.

Masks on planes and in airports. No exceptions. But the airlines and airports don't like that as we've seen during the Covid pandemic. Apparently it discourages people from travelling which costs them $$$. Plus, it's a constant reminder that we're still in a pandemic when everyone is supposed to believe it's over.

Testing and quarantine would be even better... except that everyone from the airlines right down to the Bali Bogans would be complaining endlessly about the 'inconvenience' and cost (assuming they had to pay for it - which they should).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:01pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:34pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 8:28pm:

What action do you recommend?

Only for Covid or for every respiratory illness like colds and the rest?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:23pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Only for Covid or for every respiratory illness like colds and the rest?

Measures to stop Covid would also be effective against other respiratory illnesses.

I thought that would be obvious seeing as they all spread in the same way.

As I've said before - the measures taken in 2020 and most of 2021 to stop Covid entering Australia and spreading were also effective against the flu.

After Australia's borders were closed (well, sort of) and quarantine for overseas arrivals started in late March 2020 I remember saying to one of the ladies at our local TerryWhite Chemmart when I was asking about the flu shot that I didn't think the flu was going to be a problem in Australia that year.

She said "Do you think so?" and I said "Yep".

And I was right.

And then we threw all that away from late 2021 onwards when the government gave up and surrendered to Covid (under pressure from big business) just like the rest of the world did.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:38pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Only for Covid or for every respiratory illness like colds and the rest?

Wasn't that because of those wonderful, tested and effective vaccines against covid?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 11:09pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:38pm:

Wasn't that because of those wonderful, tested and effective vaccines against covid?

Ah, yes - the good old "vax and relax" approach.

As effective as the vaccines are, our government should have known (and probably did know) that this was never going to be an effective 'strategy' against a constantly mutating SARS virus.

Especially after they must have seen what happened in the US, the UK, Canada and several other countries that tried the same thing ("vax and relax") before us and failed.

But, our government had to go with it anyway (no doubt under pressure from big business, as I said).

After it proved to be a failure with the result of having 25,000 Covid deaths (so far) and countless Long Covid cases (which are also increasing) our governments (Federal and State) have now taken the cowardly approach of going completely silent about everything Covid related even with continuing wave after wave of Covid and steadily increasing death and sickness numbers.

They're not even mentioning Covid in vaccination campaign ads as we've seen in the recent ads in WA and Queensland (and also in the UK, so I believe) in an attempt to evade accountability for the Covid disaster they've unleashed upon their populations.

As I've also said several times - let's see how good they are at getting everyone to believe H5N1 "bird flu" is "just a cold" like they've done with Covid. Mind you, with a population as stupid and selfish as the majority of Australians are it wouldn't surprise me at all if government manages to pull it off.

The first thing they will probably try is staying silent about H5N1 for as long as possible, especially with Christmas coming up (which is also the reason why I doubt we'll hear anything from government and the media about this latest XEC "I've never felt sicker in my life" Covid variant currently sweeping across Australia after being flown in from overseas, as usual).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 2:00pm

carl thats way too long

no one is going to read that much about the sniffles

if it was cancer they might be prepared to read it but with the sniffles, they just want some tissues and a panadol

not a 1000 word lecture from a hypochondriac

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 2:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

I'm betting you read it.

All of it.

After all, why comment if you didn't?

And I see by your reply that you have nothing to refute what I've posted. As usual.

But, if you want something useful to do, please find us some proof that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just "the sniffles".

You'll find it in the same place as the proof that Covid is now just a "mild respiratory virus".

Good luck (you'll need it).

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 2:56pm

no i didnt

too much word salad

keep it simple

"personal responsibility " has a nice ring to it .

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 3:20pm

You two are so funny ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 3:35pm

Only the first strain of Covid-19 was the really dangerous bioweapon -

it wiped out 100s of healthy young doctors and nurses in Italy who were caring for Covid patients.

The later mutant strains mostly wiped out nursing homes full of very old fragile people
at the end of their lives who would have died anyway if they had caught a common cold -
even died if they would have fallen out of bed on to soft carpet.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 4:11pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

You two are so funny ;D

Why, thank you Jasin.

We aim to please. :)

If you don't have time to stay around to see the inevitable conclusion of our latest 'exchange' I am going to predict it will end (as they always do) with aquascoot owing me another white flag.

Oh, wait...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

no i didnt

too much word salad

keep it simple

"personal responsibility " has a nice ring to it .

There it is. From the OzPolitic King of Word Salads, no less. ::)

Just add it to the pile (of white flags). Thanks. :)

Helpful hint (I may have mentioned this before): If you send all the white flags you me, Greg and Karnal at the same time you'll only need to make one trip to the Post Office and they may also give you a bulk discount. 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 6:54pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 4:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

You two are so funny ;D

no i didnt

too much word salad

keep it simple

"personal responsibility " has a nice ring to it .

gweg and karnal are on suicide watch

trump derangement may take them out before they catch the sniffling virus :D :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 9:33pm

No, I haven't forgotten.

The orderly slaughter of our elderly in Australian Aged Care continues while our governments remain silent and probably continue to rub their hands together with glee thinking about all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs.

Another 12 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

Cases and outbreaks are still on the increase.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1859806029887963181

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 21 November 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,393 (+79)
🔹Active outbreaks: 204 (+25)
🔹Residents: 1,025 (+22)
🔹Staff: 368 (+57)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 1,012 (+12)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1859806032878502113

Quote:

7,138 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,012 reported deaths in 2024

Disgraceful stuff.

I have to wonder - if/when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes the next big pandemic (not far away now) will the government abandon the young like they have done/are still doing with Covid and the elderly?

Because it looks like H5N1 may sicken and kill a lot of younger people too.

Spoiler alert: Probably (after they try to stay silent about it as long as they possibly can - at least until after Christmas and the New Year anyway).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 10:35pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:18pm:

The virus arose in the wet market, not a lab.

There is some middle ground.

Firstly there's the "wet market" theory.

But there's quite a bit of evidence that the virus escaped from a lab. That doesn't mean it was genetically engineered, or improved. What labs do, is breed viruses (or bacteria) so there is enough to test. The lab in Wuhan may have bred an otherwise very rare virus, and then through negligence allowed it out of the lab.

And there aren't just two options. There's also the possibility that Chinese scientists deliberately bred a virus which would affect Europeans the most, and then released it in China. But this requires that Chinese scientists are more advanced than Western ones (they padded the designed virus with end molecules to disguise it.)

Virus engineers aren't a big number of people. They're academics who don't want to waste time researching what has already been researched. They have little interest in international rivalry ... I could sum it up by saying they're scientists.

It is possible that virus scientists in China were bought off by government. But really not likely. The most likely explanation, in my opinion, is that the Wuhan lab was experimenting with the COVID virus, but negligently disposed of some of their stock.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 9:33pm:

And what exactly do you think the government should do?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 11:04pm

Aurora Complexus wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:

And what exactly do you think the government should do?

Oh, gee... I dunno?

Perhaps mandatory (high quality, not 'baggy blue' surgical) masks in aged care , hospitals and all healthcare settings would be a good start?

Anyone working in healthcare or aged care who thinks this is too much of an imposition on their "comfort" or "freedom" or whatever (and there's lots of them, apparently) is obviously in the wrong line of work and should consider looking for other employment.

Here's an example (from the UK).

Quote:

Student with us on ward round today. Consultant masked, senior nurse masked. Student states “oh I don’t have to mask, that’s the rules”.

Hubris? Stupidity? Something else?

It keeps getting weirder.

It definitely does. And it's the same here in Australia.

Oh, and it would also help if the government (and the media) would end their "vow of silence" regarding everything Covid related these days (which is their cowardly way of attempting to escape accountability for their disastrous "vaccines only and let Covid rip" decision 3 years ago) and stop pretending that everything's fine and Covid doesn't exist anymore.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 12:03am

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 11:04pm:

Aurora Complexus wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:

And what exactly do you think the government should do?

OK, I agree with that. Government should definitely do more to protect nursing home and hospital residents.

I sometimes suffer ill health (being 60-something and with a long history of smoking drinking and other drug use, it's fairly predictable.) But I'm afraid of going to hospital, because among the diseases that are concentrated there, is COVID.

I'm vaccinated with boosters by the way. The selling point for me isn't just because I might get sick and die. I'm more concerned about getting infected and passing it on to my mother or father, who are both in their 90's.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 1:43am

And, we really must keep asking ourselves...

... what happened with this fraud?

https://x.com/AlboMP/status/1438663671283019780

Sep 17, 2021

Quote:

This morning I outlined our plan to tackle Covid and ensure we come out of this pandemic stronger than ever.

That was 8 months before the last Federal election which Albanese and the ALP won, of course.

And he had several more 'Tweets' at around about the same time criticising Scott Morrison's handling of the pandemic and how he (Albanese) and Labor had a 'plan' to deal with it.

So, what happened after the Federal election in May 2022? NOTHING.

In fact, Albanese and the ALP made things worse by gradually removing all remaining protections like masks, quarantine for overseas arrivals, testing and isolation, etc., etc.

And then, in cahoots with the State Premiers at one of their 'Secret Squirrel' National Cabinet meetings they all decided to take a vow of silence regarding everything Covid related from that point on so now the majority of the population believe Covid has 'gone away' or, at worst, it's now "just a cold".

The most incredible thing is - exactly the same thing happened in the US, the UK, Canada and nearly every other country in the world at almost the same time.

And the media worldwide has also taken a 'vow of silence' about Covid since late 2021 or early 2022.

And, it's absolutely incredible that when governments have changed - the Federal and some State governments here in Australia and, more recently, the UK government, NOTHING CHANGES REGARDING THE ONGOING PANDEMIC. Still the same 'conspiracy of silence' regarding all things Covid related from ALL the pollies, regardless of whatever political party they belong to.

Like Albanese, lots of talk while they're in Opposition. But when they win government nothing happens accompanied by the abovementioned 'conspiracy of silence'.

It was obviously planned in advance worldwide once it became obvious that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) wasn't going to 'fizzle out' after a year or two like the original SARS did 20 years ago (that should have been a BIG warning) and people had to continue to die (and be disabled by 'Long Covid') for the economy.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aurora Complexus on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 2:07am

Carl D wrote on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 1:43am:

And, we really must keep asking ourselves...

... what happened with this fraud?

https://x.com/AlboMP/status/1438663671283019780

Sep 17, 2021

Quote:

This morning I outlined our plan to tackle Covid and ensure we come out of this pandemic stronger than ever.

Perhaps the leaders are concerned about the economy, and think all mask mandates are bad for the economy.

It was much easier in South Korea, where people were already accustomed to wearing masks when they thought they might have a cold, or when there was a cold around. Compulsory masking sat easy with them. South Korea had the best COVID outcome of any developed economy which wasn't an island (New Zealand had a better outcome, but they're islands.)

But masking does not sit easy with Australians. We're a lot like Americans, we feel safe when others keep their distance but we have blind spot for the circumstances (like standing in line) when we're seriously at risk of respiratory diseases. Perhaps there's a vanity factor too.

Rather ghoulishly perhaps, I'm curious what happens if another respiratory disease, with equal of worse fatality than COVID, should happen to break loose. I think world governments will bifurcate, into those willing to spend millions of lives for the sake of the economy, and those willing to "lock down" and to hell with the economy. So many governments have been overthrown, despite doing what I think was the right thing (lives over economy.) Incombent governments may be willing to roll the dice on a future infection, even if that kills half of humanity.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 8:01am

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Aurora Complexus wrote on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 2:07am:

Exactly.

Governments such as ours (all Western governments, in fact) have deliberately 'sold' Covid (and flu, etc.) containment measures such as masks, isolation, etc. as restrictions rather than protections.

And selfish and gullible populations such as ours were more than happy to go along with it. Can't have anything interfering with our overseas holidays (especially Bali) now, can we?

It looks like the next big pandemic is getting ready to start - H5N1 "bird flu" which, at the moment, is a lot more dangerous and deadly than Covid. As I've said several times, our governments may have a bit more difficulty convincing (almost) everyone that H5N1 is "just a cold" like they've done with Covid but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they succeed eventually.

As a perfect example of how governments have been trying to pretend Covid is over look no further than here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2156#2156

Western Australia's 5.2 million dollar "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination advertising campaign which ran on TV and in the newspapers a few months back.

They mention making sure you're up to date with all of your vaccinations except for COVID-19. Not a mention of Covid anywhere. When someone asked the WA Department of Health "why?", a spokesperson said the omission of Covid was "based on consumer research". Yeah, right.

This "omission" was despite the fact that from January 1st to July 31st this year there were 260 Covid deaths but "only" 14 flu deaths and 0 RSV deaths in WA.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/2171#2171

Queensland also did the same thing (no mention of Covid at all) in their vaccination advertising campaign which they started just after WA's and I also believe the UK's "new" government did it too - not a word about Covid even though it's still killing a lot more people than the flu and other illnesses.

Totally unreal... it feels like I'm living in an episode of The Twilight Zone.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 8:05am

You really need more than mask Carl when responding to that poster who takes pride in being a self proclaimed paedophile.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:29pm

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1862314720558293424

Outbreaks and cases still on the increase.

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 28 November 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,377 (+29)
🔹Active outbreaks: 237 (+42)
🔹Residents: 1,016 (+19)
🔹Staff: 361 (+10)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 1,033 (+21)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1862314723766935969

Quote:

7,159 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,033 reported deaths in 2024

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:36pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:29pm:

Another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1862314720558293424

Outbreaks and cases still on the increase.

Quote:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1862314723766935969

[quote]7,159 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,033 reported deaths in 2024

Not that anyone seems to care, of course (too busy with stupid "Black Friday"/"Cyber Monday" sales and Christmas/New Year coming up).

And the pollies are undoubtedly still counting all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs (while distracting everyone with stupid things like social media bans for under 16's).

Disgraceful stuff.[/quote]

ABS data shows median age for covid deaths is over 83 years of age.

How many old people in aged care Carl?

My Aunt has caught covid twice in aged care she is still alive despite refusing any vax boosters beyond the 2 she had to have.

I tell her to get outside in the sun her Vit D levels are pretty good.

Numerous studies have shown severe covid is linked to low Vit D levels your immune system needs Vit D to function.

Have peple bothered to kepp up to date and read this stuff or do they still believe the lies they were told in the media and by politicians?

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:46pm

1. How many Aged Care Covid deaths would there be in Australia if our governments had done their job and stopped the virus entering the country and then letting it rip?

2. How many total Covid deaths would there be in Australia if our governments had done their job and stopped the virus entering the country and then letting it rip?

Answers:

1. ZERO (instead of 7,159 and counting).

2. ZERO (instead of 25,000 plus and counting).

Go ahead and try to prove me wrong.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:50am

Where is the acknowledgement of all these ongoing Covid deaths and condolences offered to the families by our pollies?

Why are all the pollies from our spineless PM down (and the media) afraid to even say the "C(ovid)" word anymore?

As I've said many times before - if 21 elderly Australians had died in a bus crash last week it would be all over the news for at least a week.

And Albanese would be there offering his fake condolences (and taking a few more 'selfies' to add to the collection).

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:01am

And.. I am still wondering if the government is taking the piss or they're just terminally stupid when they keep putting "BE COVIDSAFE" on these reports every week?

Probably a bit of both.

"Inconsiderate" would be the politest way for me to descibe it.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:13pm

We could do with another pandemic.
You know. One that is ten times as deadly and spreadable than Covid. Wipe out a few billion or more.
The timing is just right.
WHO sends out the alarm and the world goes "not that trick again" because Covid wasn't really as pandemic and terrible. It turned out to be a real fizzer and seemed to be over once Hospital patient Joe Biden got in power.
The timing is right because the world will ignore it. No lockdowns, etc .
...until it is way too late to be effective.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:32pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

nope

if 21 school kids died in a bus crash it would.

you think way too highly of yourself

most people who go to a funeral are thinking about the traffic, or what to cook for tea tonight before they get to their car , before they get out the door of the funeral service .

to the vast majority ,an old person dying in a nursing home is less traumatic then a koala dying crossing the motorway.

get some humility please

get a dose of realism

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:15pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

It's already on the way... H5N1 "bird flu" which is about to mutate into 'full blown' human to human transmission (i.e. airborne). If it hasn't already - and some believe it has.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 10:26am

Carl D wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

It's already on the way... H5N1 "bird flu" which is about to mutate into 'full blown' human to human transmission (i.e. airborne). If it hasn't already - and some believe it has.

Well we can only hope so. The human world needs to be cleansed from the filth of overpopulation.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:47pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

a yawn is appropriate

thats how 99 % of people in "real" australia feel about old fuddy duddy hypochondriacs 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 8:10pm

And while some of our resident antivaxxers and conspiracy nutters still carry on about the vaccines that have been estimated to have saved millions of lives worldwide there were another 13 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1864885675419668946

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 5 December 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,373 (+11)
🔹Active outbreaks: 232 (+11)
🔹Residents: 1,009 (-3)
🔹Staff: 364 (+14)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 1,046 (+13)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1864885678166986778

Quote:

7,172 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,046 reported deaths in 2024

Disgraceful stuff. As is the continuing use of "BE COVIDSAFE" on these weekly reports.

And I still have to admire Denis with his futile 'tagging' of Anika Wells and Anthony Albanese every week.

Wells is too busy looking for her next big sporting opportunity photo op (while ignoring Aged Care) and she hasn't posted on Twitter/X for over a year.

And Albanese is... well... looking for his next photo op anywhere (as well as boring the heck out of everyone with his top songs for 2024 (which he was rightly roasted for doing). ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Dec 8^th, 2024 at 7:25am

Carl D wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 8:10pm:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1864885678166986778

[quote]7,172 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,046 reported deaths in 2024

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 8^th, 2024 at 10:36am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 8^th, 2024 at 7:25am:

you admire people who spend their precious time doing futile things :-/ :-/

Indeed.

It is futile trying to get our cowardly politicians to even say the C(ovid) word anymore.

Even when it is still killing an average of 80 Australians a week (according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics numbers from January 1st to July 31st this year).

And that's why I admire his persistence. It's a pity there weren't a few more like him (and there probably would be if our governments and the media hadn't imposed an almost total 'blackout' on everything Covid related for the past 2 years).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 8^th, 2024 at 6:46pm

Well, there's a few people here at OzPolitic who won't have to worry about this (COVID finding a home in their brain).

Mind you, the virus does accumulate and persist in other parts of the body besides the brain so they should be concerned about that (especially the heart).

From page 9 of today's The Sunday Times.

"Mild respiratory virus" and "just a cold" my @ss.

Time to everyone to wake up and realise you've been duped by our pollies and big business.

(And kudos again to John Flint who somehow manages to get these articles printed in The Sunday Times and The West Australian despite the 'vow of silence' taken by the pollies and the media about Covid for the past 2 years).

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 7:14pm

And... while some here are still carrying on about vaccines there were another 14 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1867438647202787764

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 12 December 2024

🔹Active cases: 1,243 (-48)
🔹Active outbreaks: 196 (-18)
🔹Residents: 890 (-63)
🔹Staff: 353 (+15)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 1,060 (+14)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1867438650080079929

Quote:

7,186 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,060 reported deaths in 2024

Why isn't this front page news?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 6:55am

Well, back in the 80s I would read on the weekend:

The Weekend Financial Review

National Times

and even the good old Nation Review.

The last two are gone and the AFR is a shadow of what it used to be. Bland papers with little of interest in them

Hell, even the Australian used to be pretty good and there was The Age, also mostly crap now.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:13am

Bible Experts Determine Goliath Died Of COVID-19

ISRAEL - Working at an archaeological dig in the Valley of Elah, Bible experts have come up with an interesting theory concerning the death of Goliath, hulking giant of the Philistines who fought David in one-on-one combat.

Though he did have severe head trauma and neck problems, his death is now being counted as a COVID-19 death.

"While we didn't test him per se, he exhibited a lot of the symptoms of COVID-19," said one Bible scholar as he carefully worked to unearth some ancient face masks from Bible times. "The wooziness, the falling down, the headache -- it's all pretty clearly indicative of the novel coronavirus." He also stated that the virus ran rampant among the Philistines because they did not social distance, while Israel was relatively safe because King Saul declared a lockdown.

At publishing time, scholars had proposed that everyone who died in the Flood, the Israelite conquest of Canaan, and the flattening of Sodom and Gomorrah also died of COVID-19.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 12:02pm

I'm almost certain Frank only ever visits 3 websites:

1. OzPolitic.

2. The Babylon Bee.

3. X (formerly Twitter).

Wonder which one he has for a homepage? :-/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 12:06pm

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Good one. ;D

https://babylonbee.com/news/bible-experts-determine-goliath-died-of-covid-19

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:13pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:

I'm almost certain Frank only ever visits 3 websites:

1. OzPolitic.

2. The Babylon Bee.

3. X (formerly Twitter).

Wonder which one he has for a homepage? :-/

Adorable: Trump And Musk Debut Matching Christmas Pajamas

'Elon On The Shelf' Installed In All Congressional Offices To Remind Lawmakers To Be Efficient

See also
https://philosophynow.org/issues/165/A_God_of_Limited_Power
And
https://thecritic.co.uk/god-of-god-light-of-light/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Yadda on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

LOL

.....an article which aptly confirms that old saying;

"The more things change, the more they remain the same."
- Alphonse Karr

Quote:

This proverb makes the observation that “even the most turbulent of changes do not affect reality on a deeper level other than to cement the status quo.”

hehe

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Plus_%C3%A7a_change,_plus_c%27est_la_m%C3%AAme_chose

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:58pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:

I'm almost certain Frank only ever visits 3 websites:

1. OzPolitic.

2. The Babylon Bee.

3. X (formerly Twitter).

Wonder which one he has for a homepage? :-/

yours would be AgedCarecovid.com.au.

i believe you are the sole subscriber :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 8:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:58pm:

yours would be AgedCarecovid.com.au.

i believe you are the sole subscriber :'( :'(

Yes.

Very amusing.

Meanwhile... I wonder how many Covid deaths there were in Australian Aged Care this week? Or how many Covid deaths for all age groups?

No one knows because our governments (and Covid) are taking Christmas and the New Year off (apparently).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1872520431896609036

Quote:

🇦🇺AUSTRALIA weekly COVID update: 27 December 2024

How very "convenient". Just a small report from South Australia about a "downward" trend in cases (because hardly anyone is testing, as usual. And especially at this time of year).

Let's see what a couple of the 'punters' have to say about that, shall we?

Quote:

TheBossRoss 🇪🇺 🧶 ❄ 📷 6x💉
@BettinaSRoss1
3h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Covid is on a Christmas break, I see. Joy to the world and all that ... 🤦‍♀️

Dec 27, 2024 · 6:35 AM UTC

Quote:

Matt Nisselle
@MNisselle
3h
Replying to @BigBadDenis
The ‘busiest’ time of the Australian calendar for SARS & they all shut down….

Dec 27, 2024 · 6:41 AM UTC

Of course.

And... as always... disgraceful stuff.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 9:59pm

Shocking!

1st week of 2025 and already another 27 Covid deaths reported in Australian Aged Care.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1875531755886895451

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 2 January 2025

🔹Active cases: 1,725 (+254)
🔹Active outbreaks: 287 (+52)
🔹Residents: 1,270 (+181)
🔹Staff: 455 (+73)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 27 (+27)

Another big increase in outbreaks and cases as well.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1875531758671917264

Quote:

7,231 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸27 reported deaths in 2025

And, as usual, not a word from the pollies or the media.

Truly disgraceful stuff.

Especially the continuing use of "BE COVIDSAFE" on the reports.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 8:30am

While someone is still being "invigorated" by "personal responsibility" (careful, don't make a mess of your phone screen) :o, the disgrace that is Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care continues.

Only 11 days into the New Year and already 40 deaths reported (13 more last week).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1877562488381637060

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 9 Jan 2025

🔹Active cases: 1,907 (+193)
🔹Active outbreaks: 289 (+16)
🔹Residents: 1,408 (+143)
🔹Staff: 499 (+50)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 40 (+13)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1877562491905126728

Quote:

7,244 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸40 reported deaths in 2025

And:

https://x.com/_Science_Wins/status/1877662156134699060

Quote:

My 79 year-old Neighbour died of #COVID mid-week.

When I last encouraged her to get vaccinated (mid-year) she told me: “I’ve had it before, so I’ve got good immunity - even the Government says we all do now!” 🤦‍♂️

This is Public Health failure…

UNNECESSARY DEATH 😔

Yes, it is. All as a result of deliberate public health messaging failure by our governments.

Truly disgraceful stuff.

Also:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1877636850803991002

Quote:

🇦🇺AUSTRALIA weekly COVID update: 10 January 2025

Cases are up again (for the States and Territory that are reporting but cases would be up everywhere, of course).

But, hey... never mind all that. How good's the cricket and tennis? ::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:24pm

Yes, people are still dying of Covid in Australia.

Especially in aged care.

(Been a bit busy the past week sorting out a few things with My Aged Care and Centrelink regarding my aunt's care package which has finally been approved).

There were another 21 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week, 61 deaths so far this year and we're only just over halfway through January.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1880104207308714231

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 16 Jan 2025

🔹Active cases: 1,587 (-261)
🔹Active outbreaks: 251 (-28)
🔹Residents: 1,139 (-223)
🔹Staff: 448 (-38)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 61 (+21)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1880104210097926293

Quote:

7,265 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸61 reported deaths in 2025

And, as usual, not a word from the pollies or the media.

Disgraceful stuff.

Tim, the ex virologist, sums it all up quite well.

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1880876784666935765

Quote:

21 COVID deaths last week in Aged Care homes

61 so far in 2025 - averaging just under 4 deaths per day

Not a word from media

Not an ounce of action from @AlboMP
or flunky @Mark_Butler_MP

If you vote Labor at the Federal election you’re complicit in Govt manslaughter

Yes. Yes you are. However, I doubt that anything would change if the Liberals win the Federal election this year.

And, also from Tim, an update on the US Covid situation:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1881161334609617345

Quote:

Anyone who thinks “it’s over” needs to wake the f... up

Yes. Yes they do.

Quote:

BNO News
@BNOFeed
Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 207,014 est.
- Admissions: 14,491 (-20%)
- In hospital: 12,386 (+3%)
- In ICU: 1,735 (+6%)
- New deaths: 910
- Average: 674 (+14%)

910 deaths in a week... and not a word from their media or pollies, just like Australia.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 6:56pm

If people are still dying from Covid. Shouldn't there be lockdowns?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 7:58pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:24pm:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1880104210097926293

[quote]7,265 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸61 reported deaths in 2025

And, as usual, not a word from the pollies or the media.

Disgraceful stuff.

Tim, the ex virologist, sums it all up quite well.

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1880876784666935765

Quote:

Anyone who thinks “it’s over” needs to wake the f... up

Yes. Yes they do.

Quote:

BNO News
@BNOFeed
Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 207,014 est.
- Admissions: 14,491 (-20%)
- In hospital: 12,386 (+3%)
- In ICU: 1,735 (+6%)
- New deaths: 910
- Average: 674 (+14%)

910 deaths in a week... and not a word from their media or pollies, just like Australia.[/quote]

Pretty bloody bad and there could still be a new mutation that radically ups the death toll.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 8:21pm

Covid, schmovid. Pneumonia.

"The old man's friend" is a term used to describe pneumonia, which is a common cause of death in the elderly. The term was first used by Sir William Osler in the late 1800s.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2025 at 3:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 8:21pm:

How very 'aquascootish' (but without the word salad).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jan 26^th, 2025 at 10:49am

Looks like there wasn't a report on Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

How very unsurprising.

Australia Day long weekend, of course - I'm betting the people responsible for preparing the weekly report 'knocked off' early on Friday and they won't be back until Tuesday.

Meanwhile...

Spinal surgery, aged care, long COVID: Australia’s most expensive hospital stays revealed

Paywalled as usual but here's the article:

Quote:

Private health insurers are increasingly concerned about long and intensive hospital stays for patients suffering severe post-COVID symptoms including pneumonia, delirium and muscle wastage, as researchers warn the disease continues to place immense strain on Australia’s health system.

Almost half a million hospital stays each cost private health funds $10,000 or more in 2023, the latest analysis of claims data reveals, an increase of 8 per cent on the previous year.

The most expensive claim was $785,625 for a small bowel obstruction, followed by $753,362 paid to a public hospital caring for an elderly man awaiting admission to residential aged care for 613 days, and $605,419 for a man with a serious bacterial skin infection (cellulitis).

A woman spent three months in hospital with severe complications from spinal fusion surgery to treat lower back pain, costing her insurer $343,950. A further 13 claims related to complications from spinal fusion surgery cost more than $180,000, despite doubts about the efficacy of the procedure.

The analysis by Private Health Australia, the peak body representing health funds, also found insurers continued to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars to patients in hospitals with serious symptoms of long COVID.
In two of the most severe cases of long COVID recorded in private hospitals, a woman in her 80s spent almost 100 days in hospital, while a man’s four-month ordeal cost his insurer $70,000.

“Health funds are particularly concerned about long COVID, not only for respiratory illnesses, but the effects on a whole range of body systems,” said Private Health Australia director of policy and research Ben Harris. “COVID and long COVID are continuing to wreak havoc in the community, continuing to hospitalise people for long periods of time, and continuing to have an effect on private health insurance premiums.”

Professor Martin Hensher, a health economist at the University of Tasmania’s Menzies Institute for Medical Research, said that while the high claims represented the most extreme cases, they were a reminder of the significant burden of COVID-19 on individuals and the health system.

“This is an illness that didn’t exist five years ago … it’s additional demand on the system,” Hensher said. “The wake-up call here is that, while [long COVID] is never going to be like heart disease or cancer in terms of scale, actually we’ve got people who are being hospitalised at very high cost.”

In a separate analysis of public hospital data, published in the Medical Journal of Australia in November, Hensher and a team of researchers found hospital admissions related to post-COVID symptoms and complications cost taxpayers an average of $11,000.

Estimating the true cost of long COVID to the health system was difficult, Hensher said, because state and federal governments do not collect data on how many people have the disease.

“We don’t really understand the true scale of the problem,” Hensher said. “People really have long COVID, so we need to know how can we make the health system work properly for these people.”

Professor Steven Faux, who runs the long COVID clinic at St Vincent’s Hospital in Sydney, recently had a patient in her 90s who contracted COVID in June but could not clear it, returning to hospital several times with superinfections.

“Generally, we don’t see people who are going to survive stay in hospital longer than four weeks … but what happens is they don’t get better in the community, which is the definition of long COVID,” Faux said. “The GPs struggle to continue managing them and then send them back in for more acute treatment.”

Faux said employers and insurers covering income protection were increasingly asking the clinic for help getting employees with long COVID back to work. “We’re saying they will improve because the evidence says they will, but they need access to multidisciplinary, well-coordinated treatments,” Faux said.
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Federal Health Minister Mark Butler announced $14.5 million in funding for long COVID research in June, which he said would “generate knowledge to support new diagnostic and therapeutic approaches for people with long COVID”.

Faux said the St Vincent’s clinic had received funding to investigate how to care for people with long COVID but did not expect results for several years. Meanwhile, he anticipated “a sort of a struggle”.

A 2023 analysis found long COVID costs the Australian economy at least $5.7 billion. Analysis by Hensher and others published in the Medical Journal of Australia in November, estimated the annual economic burden of long COVID at between $1.7 billion and $6.3 billion.

So much for this "mild respiratory virus".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 1^st, 2025 at 11:03pm

Another 6 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

88 Aged Care Covid deaths for the whole of January.

And, as usual, not a word from the pollies or the media.

I believe Tim the ex virologist sums things up pretty well:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1885374894852235428

Quote:

88 COVID deaths in Aged Care in January

The Media don’t care

@AlboMP
cares even less

4,500+ have died from COVID in Aged Care homes since Albanese was elected in May 2022

He’s done nothing to prevent even one death

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1885548813580197946

Quote:

Where are you @abcnews
@Hayley_Gleeson
???

Not interested because they’re old? In aged care?

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 5:53am

yesterdays news.

carl probably is still terrified on the Y2K virus ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 11:08am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 5:53am:

yesterdays news.

carl probably is still terrified on the Y2K virus ::) ::)

Yes, of course it is.

88 Aged Care Covid deaths in a month in Australia is just so... normal, isn't it?

Especially in the middle of summer.

I suppose we should be thankful for still getting these reports for now... if this was the US under the Trump/Musk/RFK Jr. regime we wouldn't be getting any reports at all... about any illnesses (even though the illnesses and deaths will continue and probably escalate).

Oh, and I'm not terrified of anything, except for the occasional scare when I try to imagine what the heck goes on at that little farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

Thank you. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 7:20pm

Anyway...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1885811362557010242?

Quote:

Unacceptable’: Doctors raise alarm as COVID runs rampant in Aussie aged care facilities.

"The COVID death rate of our elderly in residential care is double that of the pandemic peak. Experts are blaming poor vaccination rates."

https://archive.md/k2w7n

Quote:

Twice as many elderly Australians in residential care have died from Covid in the past almost three years than in the peak of the pandemic, with experts pointing the blame at “really, really poor vaccination” rates in the country’s aged care homes.
Australia recorded 2415 Covid-related deaths in residential aged care between February 18, 2020, to May 19, 2022.
Since then, Australia has recorded 4778 deaths between May 27, 2022, to January 16, 2025.
Since then, Australia has recorded 4778 deaths between 27 May 2022 to 16 Jan 2025.
Latest Covid vaccination data in aged care homes reveals that more than 100 aged care facilities have fewer than 10 per cent of their residents vaccinated against the virus.
More than 200 other aged care facilities had less than 20-30 per cent of their patients vaccinated either in the past six months or in the past 12 months.

Definitely unacceptable.

And, who is responsible for this?

Oh, yes... that would be the same government(s) who are now too afraid to mention the C(ovid) word anymore, even in State government vaccination advertising campaigns.

The same government(s) who are no doubt rubbing their hands together with glee thinking about all the money they're saving on vaccines, pensions and healthcare costs.

https://x.com/Steviesword/status/1885846754744230274

Quote:

But in positive news vacancies in Aged care facility beds are increasing. This is all down to The Human Sacrifice Policy.

Exactly.

And, as long as our governments and the media maintain their 'conspiracy of silence' regarding all things Covid, the majority of the population will remain blissfully unaware of this national disgrace.

Shocking.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 2:59pm

carl, we have a massive shortage of housing for young people in australia.

many homes in good suburbs with good services are occupied by the elderly and the government need these freed up.

your best bet is to assume 'personal responsibility"

the government see you and your type as a cost and you can expect no help from them

i, however can offer you excellent advice on diet and nutrition exercise sleep and other healthy practices.

ill health does NOT mean a lack of covid vaccine in the bloodstream

there is a bit more to it then that ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 12:16am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 2:59pm:

carl, we have a massive shortage of housing for young people in australia.

We have a massive shortage of housing (especially affordable housing) for everyone in Australia at the moment. What's your point?

Quote:

many homes in good suburbs with good services are occupied by the elderly and the government need these freed up.

Really? Why? So, are you saying the government should deliberately kill off the elderly and other vulnerable people so these homes and services can be "freed up"?

How very Trump/Musk/RFK Jr. ish of you. I really should be shocked but because I know you so well I'm not in the least bit shocked or surprised.

Quote:

your best bet is to assume 'personal responsibility"

Is that the same "personal responsibility" that has now replaced "public health" by governments in Australia and most Western countries (and no one bothers to assume)?

Quote:

the government see you and your type as a cost and you can expect no help from them

Again - how very Trump/Musk/RFK Jr. ish of you.

What do you suggest? A Logan's Run or Soylent Green 'solution' to the (alleged) problem? Hmm... I probably shouldn't be giving you ideas.

Quote:

i, however can offer you excellent advice on diet and nutrition exercise sleep and other healthy practices.

OK, I'll bite. Let's see this "excellent advice".

Quote:

ill health does NOT mean a lack of covid vaccine in the bloodstream

there is a bit more to it then that ;)

Huh? What are you going on about?

Oh, OK... I'll bite again (I just know I am going to regret this). Let's see this "bit more to it than that" (just add it to your "excellent advice on diet and nutrition exercise sleep and other healthy practices"). ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:03am

hi carl

dont get upset at me for explaining what the government is doing to YOU.

by your own admission they dont care about covid anymore

i dont set policy.

as to health advice

go and ask your GP for a physical

if he is good he will spend a lot of time on your weight, your kidney function, your blood pressure, your sugar, your cognitive scores.
your sleep habits, your prostate, your bowel, your cholesterol , check you for skin cancers
i doubt he will even mention your covid vax status

unless you go to some quack like Dr Berger (sanctioned by the medical authorities i believe)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:03am

*Yawn*

My weight and health are fine for my age, thank you.

Still going on about the esteemed Dr. David Berger (who has more medical knowledge in one of his big toes than you have in your entire body), I see.

And, again... the only reason he was "sanctioned" was because he upset a few "high and mighty" snowflakes when he (quite rightlly) pointed out their incompetence in (a) not recognising the primary mode of SARS-CoV-2 transmission (airborne) and (b) ignoring the correct ways of dealing with it (masks and clean air, etc.).

But, we've been through this many, many times but you continue to bring it up again and again (kinda like Baronvonrort with his 'baggy blue' surgical mask picture and the Cochrane Review).

I still can't decide if you have a bad memory or you're just trolling?

And, speaking of the esteemed Dr. David Berger - you'll notice I haven't been posting anything from him for a while now. That's because, like many intelligent people, he's almost totally abandoned X/Twitter these days because of the cesspit it's become thanks to that borderline fascist, "Space Karen" Musk.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 12:13pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

yawn

word salad

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 2:39pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 12:13pm:

yawn

word salad

White flag accepted.

Once again.

Ever thought of setting up a white flag manufacturing business on that little farm?

That way you could send them directly to me (and other members here).

Cuts out the "middle man", so to speak.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 10:40pm

Yes, Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care are continuing.

4 deaths last week and 14 the week before (that report said 7 but it was an "error")

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1890276770978623542

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1887751582714110290

Disgraceful stuff.

Speaking of disgraceful...

Anika Wells deflects blame for rise in home care wait times and aged care Covid-19 deaths

Quote:

In a recent interview with Sky News’ Andrew Clennell, Minister for Aged Care and Sport Anika Wells skirted around key concerns regarding the aged care sector, particularly the alarming rise in COVID-related deaths and worsening home care package wait times.

Despite serious questions being raised, Wells remained defensive, shifting blame to past governments and deflecting responsibility for the current state of aged care.

During the interview, Clennell pressed Wells on the troubling statistic that COVID-19 deaths in aged care facilities have now surpassed those seen during the height of the pandemic.

Instead of acknowledging the government’s responsibility in managing infection control, Wells downplayed the severity of the situation, attributing the rise to increased community transmission and changes in lockdown policies.

“Look, that statistic, while I agree is alarming, is a result of it being more prevalent in the community because we aren’t locking down nursing homes like we did…,” Wells explained, before shifting the focus to the alleged preferences of aged care residents.

“Actual residents [are] saying to me when I go around nursing homes, please don’t lock us down again.”

While it is true that residents may prefer more freedoms, Wells failed to address the government’s role in ensuring adequate infection prevention measures within facilities.

Way past time for that useless Wells to be replaced. Mind you, with the current 'head in the sand' approach to Covid by our governments these days I doubt her replacement would be any better.

And, yes... Aged Care Package waiting times are getting worse... we had to wait nearly 10 months to get the package for my elderly aunt and I've heard the wait time is nearly 15 months if you apply right now.

Obviously the government is hoping the elderly will 'drop off the perch' before their packages are approved. Same as the government obviously doesn't care about the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in Aged Care... more money saved on pensions and healthcare costs.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm

indeed carl

the government would like you to disappear as you are just a burden to them

this will become much more so as the population ages and there are fewer taxpayers to fund aged care.

your best bet is to look after your health and not rely on those who wont help you.

another word for this (two words actually) is personal responsibility.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 3:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

Indeed. I'm sure they would.

So, as long as you don't call me a "leaner" and a "taker" if I say that I intend to live as long as I possibly can (hopefully to at least 100 which is another 33 years) to get as much money out of the government as I can in age pension and healthcare costs then I won't call you a hypocrite.

Deal? :)

Oh, and my elderly aunt will be 95 a week next Tuesday so she will have been on the age pension for 35 years, she retired at 60 in 1990.

How's that for "personal responsibility"? 8-)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 3:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

I hope to get as much of my tax back as possible.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:16pm

A reminder of the lockdowns 4 years ago.
The cheekiest man in Australia - LOL - ;D

He says to the cop - at 5:36 -
you're getting a bit butt hurt aren't you -
I can see you're starting to breathe a bit heavy -
you're getting cranky - you need to stay calm mate -
stay calm everything is going to be fine.

You need to supply your details
ohh that need word
my details - what do you want - my star sign?

What's your name?
You Can Call Me Daddy

Video

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fdtSaWrS6sHa/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:59pm

one of the best bobby

daniels donuts still the all time fave

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:59pm:

one of the best bobby

daniels donuts still the all time fave

LOL - ;D

yes this one:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:18am

make a great PM that guy

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 4^th, 2025 at 11:19am

Carl D wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

I was on full disability support pension for over a year until I turned 65 and could access my super. I could also have applied for a carer pension supplemented for looking after Mum but did not.

Will be looking for a part pension soonish due inflation.

Intend to do one better than Mum and live to 102. (Mum was a smidge off 101 when she died.)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Mar 4^th, 2025 at 5:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 4^th, 2025 at 11:19am:

Carl D wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

you are an accomplished "leaner"

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 7^th, 2025 at 1:33pm

LOL.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Mar 8^th, 2025 at 9:31am

Meanwhile...

... while aquascoot goes on about "lifters" and "leaners" the Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care (and Covid deaths in all other age groups no doubt) continues.

Another 7 Aged Care Covid deaths last week:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1897859271595114623

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 6 Mar 2025

🔹Active cases: 563 (+33)
🔹Active outbreaks: 104 (+1)
🔹Residents: 411 (+4)
🔹Staff: 152 (+29)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 114 (+7)

And 4 deaths the week before:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1895339399367533036

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 27 Feb 2025

🔹Active cases: 549 (+4)
🔹Active outbreaks: 106 (+11)
🔹Residents: 416 (+19)
🔹Staff: 133 (-15)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 107 (+4)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1897859274476601731

Quote:

7,318 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸114 reported deaths in 2025

As always, Tim the ex virologist sums it up quite accurately:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1897926387802976334

Quote:

4,500+ COVID deaths in Aged Care since @AlboMP
took office in May 2022

Neither the PM or his health minister @Mark_Butler_MP
have done a thing to reduce transmission

Shameful

Vote accordingly

Yes, it is shameful. And disgraceful.

And, yes... I have voted accordingly in my WA State election postal vote and I will also vote accordingly in the upcoming Federal election (hint: I didn't vote Labor or Liberal).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 9:22am

Another 14 Covid deaths in Australian Aged Care last week.

Not 7 as the government "erroneously" reported.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1900421049302532129

After seeing how bad things have been with Covid (and the flu) during summer I'm dreading to think how bad winter is going to be this year.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 12:38pm

14 people in aged care died last week !!!!!!!!

hold the press.

this is earth shattering news

the people of australia are outraged and demand a royal commission ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 12:55pm

7,332 Aged Care Covid deaths in Australia since the start of the pandemic.

128 Aged Care Covid deaths in Australia since the start of this year.

So, how many Aged Care Covid deaths does aquascoot consider to be acceptable?

Especially seeing as the majority of these deaths could probably have been avoided by something as simple as staff and visitors wearing high quality masks.

Oh, that's right... can't say the "M" word in Australia anymore, can we? Masks=Poison as far as the majority of the population (and governments) are concerned.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 5:45pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 15^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

when a new born baby dies in a maternity ward, people are devestated

when an aged care patient dies in an aged care facility, people are often relieved (both the patient and the family)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Mar 16^th, 2025 at 6:11am

Look at how we were brainwashed to live in fear.

We couldn't get any news about Covid without moving
cartoons of the Covid virus in the background:

All the media participated in a climate of fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhDL_Lq5nY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBAlPh20sYU

at 3:06 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-BHD5WDck

at 13:12 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqyovZ1G6Fg

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Mar 16^th, 2025 at 1:31pm

its the decade of safety

every nincompoop who sent me a text during the recent cyclone (or as i call it, prolonged rain with gusty wind event) ended by saying "stay safe"

even people i respect have fallen for the cultural hypnosis :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 7:58am

But, hey... it's "mild" and "just a cold" now, isn't it?

20 Deaths A Day: Australia’s Ongoing Covid Toll

Covid-19 is still killing Australians — and the full picture shows sobering numbers and a lack of action on some of the key lessons of the pandemic.

Quote:

MELBOURNE, March 27 – Twenty Australians are dying every day because of Covid-19 — five years after the pandemic that changed the world was declared and three years after the country largely ended restrictions.

The figure comes from a recent study comparing excess mortality before and after the pandemic declaration to account for deaths beyond those directly attributable to Covid.

That study indicated the toll is still mounting and is significantly higher than official figures — that concentrate on direct COVID-related deaths — indicate.

It also points to critical gaps in Australia’s vaccination rates, indoor air quality and pandemic preparedness that require urgent action.

Overall, it found Australia’s pandemic excess death toll was now more than 30,000 — and almost all of those deaths had been since the country ‘reopened’ in late 2021 and early 2022.

Yes, but as long as our governments and the media continue with their conspiracy of silence regarding all things Covid then the majority of the population have no idea about this ongoing death toll.

Just what the government and big business want.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:03am

Quote:

Australia’s pandemic excess death toll was now more than 30,000

How many of those deaths are caused by the vaccines?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:15am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

Quote:

Australia’s pandemic excess death toll was now more than 30,000

How many of those deaths are caused by the vaccines?

Oh, bugger off, Bobby.

That cr@p is really getting tiresome 5 years into this (ongoing) pandemic.

Grow up and stop trolling.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:20am

Carl D wrote on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

Quote:

Australia’s pandemic excess death toll was now more than 30,000

How many of those deaths are caused by the vaccines?

Oh, bugger off, Bobby.

That cr@p is really getting tiresome 5 years into this (ongoing) pandemic.

Grow up and stop trolling.

I have challenged your narrative:

https://expose-news.com/2025/03/29/dr-sam-bailey-is-fined/

Dr. Sam Bailey is fined and has medical registration cancelled for
exercising her right to freedom of speech and her duty to challenge the narrative.

New Zealand’s Dr. Sam Bailey has been outspoken about the lack of scientific evidence behind lockdowns, social distancing, PCR tests and covid injections deployed during the covid era. For videos criticising the response to the covid “pandemic” that she posted in 2020 and 2021,
a tribunal has recently fined her NZ$158,000 and cancelled her medical registration.

Whether you agree with Dr. Bailey or not, she has the right to air her opinions and the right, duty even, to initiate and engage in open scientific debate. Her case is not about science but about censorship and freedom of speech, which is protected under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990. Her case exemplifies the New Zealand government’s intent to silence anyone who asks medical questions and challenges their narrative.

By Rhoda Wilson on March 29, 2025 •

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 1^st, 2025 at 9:21am

Carl D wrote on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

Quote:

Australia’s pandemic excess death toll was now more than 30,000

How many of those deaths are caused by the vaccines?

Oh, bugger off, Bobby.

That cr@p is really getting tiresome 5 years into this (ongoing) pandemic.

Grow up and stop trolling.

You are asking for the impossible Carl.

Booby doesn’t have the brains or education for contributing to the debate so he just trolls. Look at the “Cultural Marxism” thread: not a shred of evidence CM exists, not a shadow of a shred of evidence that the people on his idiotic list of “cultural marxists” are actual cultural marxists which is a non-existent concept anyway. Ditto his idiotic list of members with anti social personality disorder which should start and likely end with Booby.

All Booby will do in any thread is troll.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 6:41am

https://wentworthreport.com/2025/04/16/australias-giant-vaccine-study-abandoned-and-destroyed-smells-like-a-cover-up/

Posted on 16 April 2025 by David Evans

Australia’s giant vaccine study abandoned and destroyed;

smells like a cover-up. By Joanne Nova.

In August 2021, as the masses were being coerced and cajoled into vaccinations, the government announced a gigantic long term study with 10,000 Australians that would run for five years. They promised they would include the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and generate 100,000 samples, and 11 million datapoints.

No stone would be left unturned to make sure the vaccines were safe and effective. “The Science” was being used to reassure the people.

Less than two years later the data must have looked terrible, because they suddenly stopped the study. They muttered something about archiving the data until more funding was available. (Sure, sure).

Now, they want to quietly destroy the data and make sure no one can ever use it, or find out the secrets it hides with an FOI application.

The cost of the entire project was $20 million, a pitifully small fraction of the $18 billion we spent on Australia’s Covid 19 treatment experiments, and it’s nothing compared to the human cost of suffering involved. Now, we’re trying to save a few dollars because the National Archives can’t afford to buy another 8 Tb hard drive from Officeworks or spend 0.1% of the Covid budget renting a cool room in a warehouse. Does anyone believe these excuses any more? …

A cynic might say those who set this study up did it purely for the purpose of “radiating confidence” in vaccines, and they never intended to finish it.

But we know that if a miracle happened and the results had turned out well, they’d be running adverts, going on talkshows and sending a star recruit with a QoVax badge on a spaceflight with Katy Perry.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 9:16am

JoNova, LOL!

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 9:19am

Seems it was a search for a new covid vaccine, abandoned after it kept returning false HIV–positive readings.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 9:45am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 9:19am:

Seems it was a search for a new covid vaccine, abandoned after it kept returning false HIV–positive readings.

Exactly.

Australian COVID vaccine terminated due to HIV ‘false positives’

December 11, 2020

Quote:

A billion-dollar deal for the Morrison government to buy more than 50 million doses of the University of Queensland’s potential coronavirus vaccine has been abruptly terminated after several trial participants returned false positive HIV test results.

UQ, working in partnership with Australian global biotech company CSL, will abandon its current clinical trials following the discovery. It informed the federal government of the initial data on Monday, which was then referred to health authorities for urgent medical advice.

Sources with knowledge of the current trials said pathology tests had in the past weeks confirmed the positives were in fact false and the health of the participants has not been put at risk.

Bobby should have known that, of course. It was big news at the time.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 10:48am

Booby doesn’t know. . .much about anything.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 2:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 6:41am:

Lol

Nobody wants to talk about covid, least of all government.

It's embarrassing.

Only carl still cares.

That's because he doesn't have real problems to solve

A good recession should fix his mindset

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Apr 18^th, 2025 at 10:04am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 2:19pm:

Lol

Nobody wants to talk about covid, least of all government.

It's embarrassing.

What's embarrassing is that you keep bringing this up after I (and others) have tried explaining it to you many times.

Quote:

Only carl still cares.

Au contraire.

When I had my 7th Covid vaccination last week I asked the lady at TerryWhite about how many people were still booking and getting Covid vaccinations and she said "lots".

At least it proves that not everyone has swallowed the government (and aquascoot) Kool-Aid and believe that Covid is now a "big nothing burger", a "mild respiratory virus" or "just a cold".

Quote:

That's because he doesn't have real problems to solve

Yeah, like being the sole carer for my 95 year old aunt who is suffering from increasing dementia and mobility issues isn't a problem. That's also why I'm not posting here much these days, by the way.

And, I always have a bit of a chuckle when people keep telling me I can get a Carer's Allowance or Carer's Pension from Centrelink. I don't need extra money... I could do with some real help with looking after her. But, that's typical of today's society - the majority believe more money is the solution to everything (hint: it isn't).

Quote:

A good recession should fix his mindset

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18^th, 2025 at 10:15am

I spent a couple of days in the stroke unit at RPH this week.

No COVID precautions at all.

The guy from the kitchen serving meals - lovely old guy - had an old blue mask around his chin, but that was about it :(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Apr 21^st, 2025 at 8:07pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 18^th, 2025 at 10:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 17^th, 2025 at 2:19pm:

Lol

Nobody wants to talk about covid, least of all government.

It's embarrassing.

What's embarrassing is that you keep bringing this up after I (and others) have tried explaining it to you many times.

Quote:

Only carl still cares.

A good recession should fix his mindset

I couldn't care less about any recession. Good or bad. I'm on the age pension so my income is guaranteed regardless of what happens to the economy.

As I've said before - I'm so relieved I'm not starting out in life trying to find (and keep) a job these days.
[/quote]

Carl!!!

You just said
" It is virtuous of people to look after others without sucking on the government titty"

Carl

This is the very essence of the concept of "personal responsibility"

Progress is being made

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:14am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 21^st, 2025 at 8:07pm:

Carl!!!

You just said
" It is virtuous of people to look after others without sucking on the government titty"

No, I didn't.

Want to try again?

Quote:

Carl

This is the very essence of the concept of "personal responsibility"

Progress is being made

Thanks.

Now, if we could just get the remaining 99.999999999% of the population to exercise some "personal responsibility" instead of their current "me, me, me" attitude that would be real progress.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:25am

Carl D wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:14am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 21^st, 2025 at 8:07pm:

Carl!!!

You just said
" It is virtuous of people to look after others without sucking on the government titty"

No, I didn't.

Want to try again?

Quote:

Carl

This is the very essence of the concept of "personal responsibility"

Progress is being made

Exactly Carl.

We need the older Australians who are very asset rich to take a pay cut , so that young people can get a start in life.

Do you like my idea of

You pay NO tax on the first 250,000 you earn in your working life.

Time to give something back

This could easily be funded by a$ 10 a fortnight drop in the aged pension

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:34am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:25am:

Hey, look... I've found something even better than Brian's Twilight Zone picture.

:)

troll_008.jpg (130 KB | 5 )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 10:10am

Carl D wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:25am:

Hey, look... I've found something even better than Brian's Twilight Zone picture.

:)

Incorrect

Aquascoot wants the spoilt retirees who are doing very well to stop acting so selfishly. :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Apr 23^rd, 2025 at 8:07am

Carl D wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2025 at 8:25am:

Hey, look... I've found something even better than Brian's Twilight Zone picture.

:)

Carl

Are YOU saying older Australians should just think about

ME ME ME?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Apr 23^rd, 2025 at 8:45am

What I'm now saying is you should really stop trying to think. Full stop.

It is probably giving you lots of unnecessary headaches.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 1^st, 2025 at 9:24pm

Now I've seen it all.

From Wednesday's The West Australian.

Covid being blamed for increased alcoholism in Australia.

;D ;D ;D

I'm surprised they didn't also try to blame lockdowns or the vaccines. ::)

And, no mention of the nearly 30,000 (and counting) Australian deaths caused by Covid itself, of course.

Oh, well... I suppose we can add this to the list of the ongoing damage Covid is causing... like brain ~~fog~~ damage, heart issues, etc., etc.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 2^nd, 2025 at 8:09am

Hi Carl

You dumb dumb.

The increased alcoholism wasn't caused by the virus.
It was caused by bed wetting politicians ( and bed wetting people like yourself) wanting lockdowns which led to more drinking.

Covid is not the cause.
People like YOU are :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2025 at 9:27pm

And... wave after wave of endless Covid with it's associated death and sickness continues.

Death numbers that are at least 5 times more than the flu according to Australian Bureau of Statistics figures for last year.

From page 14 of today's The Sunday Times.

I wonder if our governments are going to mention the C(ovid) word ever again, especially in vaccination advertising campaigns?

Covid wasn't mentioned again in this year's "Don't Assume You're Immune" WA government advertising campaign which didn't seem to be on the TV and the newspapers anywhere near as long as it was last year (they didn't mention Covid last year either).

"current data does not indicate that this variant leads to more severe illness than other variants in circulation." WHO reported on Friday.

So, it's still at least 5 times more deadly than the flu with a countless number of extra long Covid cases to come, I take it?

And, again... I'm still wondering when the world's airlines (including our own Qantas and Virgin) are going to be held accountable and made to pay compensation for spreading Covid, flu and other diseases worldwide all year round with not the slightest effort being made to do anything about it?

I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 26^th, 2025 at 7:54am

Hay Carl. Nobody is talking about covid any more.

It's old news.

As Brian would say

Twilight zone

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2025 at 8:22am

(Reposting this because the above 'noise' caused a page flip).

Carl D wrote on May 25^th, 2025 at 9:27pm:

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on May 26^th, 2025 at 8:50am

For a Pandemic. It sure did come and go so quickly!
Once Trump was out and Biden in, the world had its vaccines on the plate.
As for all those billions in poor countries who never got the vaccines (they couldn't afford 'that.many' jabs). Seems the Pandemic just didn't show up either.

Only the World that lived dependently on the American Media Left narrative of archaic Western Politics SEEMED TO HAVE GOTTEN SICK (in opposition to Trump).

...BECAUSE ITS POLITICS, ARCHAIC WESTERN POLITICS - WAS ALWAYS SICK.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:03am

Carl D wrote on May 25^th, 2025 at 9:27pm:

"current data does not indicate that this variant leads to more severe illness than other variants in circulation." WHO reported on Friday.

So, it's still at least 5 times more deadly than the flu with a countless number of extra long Covid cases to come, I take it?

It seems that I'm not the only one who sees through all the BS.

https://x.com/PrognosticChats/status/1926368952520695889

Quote:

One of the greatest PR moves of the pandemic so far has been the use of “this variant does not lead to more severe illness than other variants” - which sounds good, until you realise other variants have killed tens of millions & disabled hundreds of millions so far

Correct.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am

Jasin wrote on May 26^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

Africa - the continent which had hardly any Covid vaccines had hardly any Covid deaths.

What does that say?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:14am

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am:

Africa - the continent which had hardly any Covid vaccines had hardly any Covid deaths.

What does that say?

I would say you're mistaken.

COVID-19 pandemic in Africa

Quote:

Deaths 254,032 (as of 10 May)

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't call a quarter of a million deaths "hardly any".

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:34am

Carl D wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:03am:

Carl D wrote on May 25^th, 2025 at 9:27pm:

It seems that I'm not the only one who sees through all the BS.

https://x.com/PrognosticChats/status/1926368952520695889

Quote:

Correct.

It's seems that " I am the only one " says Carl.

So everyone else is wrong and Carl is right ::)

We call this arrogance, narcissism and delusion :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:42am

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:34am:

It's seems that " I am the only one " says Carl.

So everyone else is wrong and Carl is right ::)

We call this arrogance, narcissism and delusion :'(

Care to read what I posted again?

Try it a little more slowly this time then perhaps you'll see your mistake.

Good luck. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:45am

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am:

Jasin wrote on May 26^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

Africa - the continent which had hardly any Covid vaccines had hardly any Covid deaths.

What does that say?

Official reports suggest that Africa was somehow spared from the worst effects of COVID-19, despite warnings that the pandemic would be devastating for the continent. But researchers have uncovered a different picture of the pandemic’s impact in Africa.

African countries consistently reported lower rates of COVID-19 infections and deaths between 2020 and 2022 than countries elsewhere, despite fewer resources to tackle a widespread pandemic. One factor contributing to this so-called “Africa paradox” has been the challenge in gathering accurate data, McKay and team said.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:49am

Carl D wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:34am:

It's seems that " I am the only one " says Carl.

So everyone else is wrong and Carl is right ::)

We call this arrogance, narcissism and delusion :'(

Care to read what I posted again?

Try it a little more slowly this time then perhaps you'll see your mistake.

Good luck. ::)

Hi Carl

Your dementia is showing.

You wrote

I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE THROUGH THE BS

You really do think you have special powers don't you.

This is delusional.

You are now in a rabbit hole by yourself

The consequence of spending too much time obsessing over yourself.

Tragic

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:53am

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

Carl D wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 10:34am:

It's seems that " I am the only one " says Carl.

So everyone else is wrong and Carl is right ::)

We call this arrogance, narcissism and delusion :'(

Care to read what I posted again?

Try it a little more slowly this time then perhaps you'll see your mistake.

Good luck. ::)

Hi Carl

Your dementia is showing.

You wrote

I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE THROUGH THE BS

You might wanna make an appointment with Specsavers.

You missed a crucial word.

"It seems that I'm not the only one who sees through all the BS."

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on May 27^th, 2025 at 6:48pm

TRUMP

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on May 27^th, 2025 at 7:12pm

Carl D wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2025 at 9:06am:

Africa - the continent which had hardly any Covid vaccines had hardly any Covid deaths.

What does that say?

I would say you're mistaken.

COVID-19 pandemic in Africa

Quote:

Deaths 254,032 (as of 10 May)

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't call a quarter of a million deaths "hardly any".

And the Yanks with a much smaller population Africa had well over 1 million deaths.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 10:49am

This was also in yesterday's The West Australian. Not on the front page where it should be... it was on about page 10.

‘Have a serious think’: Health Minister Mark Butler urges COVID boosters as new NB.1.8.1 variant surges

Quote:

Health Minister Mark Butler has urged Australians to get their COVID booster jab after a surge in infections from the new subvariant NB.1.8.1.

The variant is behind surging infections in parts of Asia, with the World Health Organisation reporting it is spreading faster than other circulating strains.

Wastewater screening in WA has detected the new highly contagious variant of Omicron as the dominant variant in Perth.

Mr Butler said people aged over 75 should seek out a booster if it’s been more than six months since their last, while those aged between 65 and 74 should get one if it has been more than a year.

“For everyone else, have a serious think,” he warned.

Here's a radical thought, "Butterballs" - how about you and the Federal government "grow a pair" and stop (apparently) being afraid of the antivaxxers, antimaskers, antilockdowners and your big business buddies and actually do something useful for a change like run a national advertising campaign on TV and in the newspapers telling people about the ongoing dangers of Covid (which is still at least 5 times more deadly than the flu) and to get up to date with their vaccinations?

Oh, and to "mask up" in risky situations - especially on planes and on public transport (oops, we also can't say the M(ask) word anymore, can we?).

And, while you're at it, tell the States to do the same thing with their vaccination advertising campaigns. You can start with WA which, as I've mentioned several times here recently, didn't say a word about Covid in their "Don't Assume You're Immune" recent advertising campaign. Just like last year.

I know a few people who have been quite sick the past couple of weeks and they have/had no idea if it was Covid or the flu or something else (they never bother to test, of course).

And, I can guarantee the majority of people here in Australia have had no more than 2 or 3 Covid vaccinations since 2021... a lot of them probably haven't even had 1.

Unbelievable (deliberate) negligence by our governments.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 2:24pm

So people under 65 should have a " think".

Note he won't recommend it.
Maybe scared of lawsuits ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 3:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 2:24pm:

So people under 65 should have a " think".

Note he won't recommend it.
Maybe scared of lawsuits ::) ::)

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 10:49am:

You're welcome (again) Chief Annoying Runny Nose.

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 5:01pm

Someone in government believes they will be open to lawsuits if they recommend covid vaccines to the under 65 group.

They happily recommend fluvax , rsv vax, MMR vax but NOT covid.

Why?

They undoubtedly have experts with more knowledge then YOU carl and they say

" Have a think about it"

Clearly they know it's not like other vaccines.

Do they tell mothers to have a think about vaccinating their baby

Nope

In fact they miss out on family tax benefit if they don't

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 6:28pm

*sigh*

Anyone else care to take this from here?

Feels like Groundhog Day (again) trying to deal with Annoying Runny Nose today.

::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 6:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 5:01pm:

Someone in government believes they will be open to lawsuits if they recommend covid vaccines to the under 65 group.

They happily recommend fluvax , rsv vax, MMR vax but NOT covid.

Why?

They undoubtedly have experts with more knowledge then YOU carl and they say

" Have a think about it"

Clearly they know it's not like other vaccines.

Do they tell mothers to have a think about vaccinating their baby

Nope

In fact they miss out on family tax benefit if they don't

They know alright -

mRNA technology was invented for people who had incurable cancers and
was considered a last risky resort to try and save their lives.
They would insert some RNA from the cancer cells in the hope the body
would learn how to destroy any cells that contained it -
so destroying the cancer.
Then someone had the bright idea to use it to fight the Covid virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:51pm

America would have used thalidomide if they could get away with it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:03pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:51pm:

America would have used thalidomide if they could get away with it.

You better listen to Carl and get your mRNA jab tomorrow.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:45pm

How fun were the Lockdowns.
The cities became prisons. It was a laugh.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 6:28pm:

*sigh*

Anyone else care to take this from here?

Feels like Groundhog Day (again) trying to deal with Annoying Runny Nose today.

::)

Yes it is annoying when you are proven wrong and have no comeback

Why do YOU think the government tell the population to " think about it"

If it's so good, why not " advise them to have it"

Take your time ;)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 9:42pm

Knowing governments and big business the way we do (or should do by now) - and human nature in general, which one of our explanations would be more likely to be correct?

Take your time.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 11:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 6:28pm:

*sigh*

Anyone else care to take this from here?

Feels like Groundhog Day (again) trying to deal with Annoying Runny Nose today.

::)

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 11:49pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:45pm:

How fun were the Lockdowns.
The cities became prisons. It was a laugh.

Daniel Andrews closed the whole State down over a couple of Covid cases -

he went completely insane.

We are still paying for it now with increased and new taxes.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 5:15am

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 9:42pm:

Knowing governments and big business the way we do (or should do by now) - and human nature in general, which one of our explanations would be more likely to be correct?

Take your time.

So you're saying we can't trust governments and big business?

But we COULD trust them when they locked you down , fined you for a solo trip to the beach but allowed big business like bunnings and Harvey Norman to stay open whilst demolishing small mum and dad businesses

Have a think about it

Take your time

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 7:37am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 5:15am:

So you're saying we can't trust governments and big business?

I believe that's what I've said. Twice so far.

Quote:

But we COULD trust them when they locked you down , fined you for a solo trip to the beach but allowed big business like bunnings and Harvey Norman to stay open whilst demolishing small mum and dad businesses

I didn't say that.

And, as I've also said before - the lockdowns, fines, mask and vaccine mandates were done in the hope that the pandemic would be over in a year or two, like the original SARS 20 years ago.

When that didn't happen with SARS2, governments and big business decided it was time for (lots of) people to die for their precious economy. Without the majority of people being aware of what they were/are doing.

And they've achieved this by taking a "vow of silence" regarding everything Covid related for the past 2 or 3 years. Including vaccinations.

Quote:

Have a think about it

Take your time

Sorry, I don't have much time for this today - I have to get my 95 year old aunt ready to go into a care facility for 5 days starting tomorrow so I can get some much needed respite. I really wanted about 2 weeks but I'll take what I can get at this stage.

Besides, I see Marla is making you look stupid (again) in the America section so I imagine you'll be busy there for a while. Hint: If I were you I'd give up while I'm behind. ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 8:08am

So the government and big business are honest when they align with Carl's wishes

And they are dishonest when they don't align with Carl's wishes ::)

The rest about respite etc and Marla would seem to be word salad.

You and Marla could open a salad bar together.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 8:20am

White flag accepted.

Now, if you'll excuse me I have important matters to attend to.

(By the way - it's 6:20am here in Perth in case you didn't know).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 8:22am

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 8:20am:

White flag accepted.

Now, if you'll excuse me I have important matters to attend to.

(By the way - it's 6:20am here in Perth in case you didn't know).

Twilight zone

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 10:24pm

And... the Covid sh*tshow rolls on with the majority of the population still blissfully unaware.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1931142492231200880

Quote:

A big jump in reported COVID cases in QLD (+45.6%, 94 in hospital, +74%), with increases also in SA (+37%), NSW (+9.5%), and ACT (+3.4%).

Aged care cases up (+17.4%) with 13 reported deaths. WA delayed, VIC/TAS updates due 13 June.

Another 13 deaths in Australian Aged Care. No report from WA for 2 weeks in a row now (not surprising seeing as they cannot say the C word anymore - even in vaccination advertising campaigns).

However, someone has access to WA wastewater figures:

https://x.com/AndrewG76201347/status/1931156227041689694

Up... up... up... and notice how testing (yellow line) has completely flatlined now. No testing... no cases (everyone probably thinks Covid is now just a cold or, at worst, the flu).

Also:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1930852569016066550

Quote:

Worrying new COVID variant NB.1.8.1, wreaking havoc in China, is now in Victoria.

COVID cases in Victoria jumped 55% in late May as NB.1.8.1 variant wreaking havoc in China hit Victoria. Flu cases rose 45% & RSV infections jumped 19.3% in the same week.

Yes, and thank you to the airlines again for bringing this here... no testing... no masks... no quarantine... visibly (and audibly) sick people being allowed to board planes with no questions asked and no attempt made to stop the spread of all these illnesses. All they care about is money (just like everyone else these days).

I like this reply:

https://x.com/Mike_Honey_/status/1930866801141019026

Quote:

I’m so confused - isn’t this the outcome this rag was clamouring for, throughout the pandemic?

“For The Economy”

Ofc in the end it’s just a new angle for them to try and see how the clicks and engagement tracks.

"this rag" is the Herald Sun, of course. And, yes - Mike is correct.

Not surprising for "this rag"... they proudly proclaimed the pandemic was over nearly 4 years ago.

From October 2021:

https://imgur.com/zKITlVL

Look out, Bobby... NB.1.8.1 is coming for YOU!!

Shocking and disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 10:32pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 10:24pm:

Look out, Bobby... NB.1.8.1 is coming for YOU!!

Shocking and disgraceful stuff.

I am aware but not alarmed.

If Covid is powerful enough to kill me then so is the common cold,
and so is the flu.
In any case my immune system would remember the last 2 doses of Covid I had
and be able to produce anti-bodies to fight it.

100s of people in aged care homes die every day -
they are so delicate that even the smallest thing can kill them -
even falling over on to soft carpet,
or choking on a piece of toast.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 11:05pm

Here are some more words of wisdom from the esteemed Dr. David Berger:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1931297059711107501

Quote:

I guess I'm going to have to keep repeating this until they finally slam my coffin lid shut, but...

You really, really, really do not want to keep getting COVID, or any other viral infection for that matter, but especially COVID.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jun/07/rod-stewart-cancels-us-tour-dates-with-glastonbury-legends-slot-weeks-away

aquascoot should also take note of this.

You're welcome.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 9:24am

Some people are NOT dying of Covid in Iran... tsk, tsk ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 9:47am

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

Some people are NOT dying of Covid in Iran... tsk, tsk ::) ::) ::)

Indeed.

And, your point being..... ?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 10:39am

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

Some people are NOT dying of Covid in Iran... tsk, tsk ::) ::) ::)

Carl thinks the vaccine protects you from. Death.

It has been renamed the immortality vaccine.

In fact. It's so useless , you can catch covid after receiving 8 doses.

That's how ridiculous it is.

So ridiculous that the government won't even advise people to get it.

Only Carl and the conspiracy theorist Dr Berger can't stop obsessing over this non event ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 10:56am

Twilight Zone... tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 2:38pm

While people are arguing about kids getting the Covid vaccine we still have this going on at the other end of the age scale:

https://x.com/DavidJoffe64/status/1938492806349394191

Quote:

There is no end to bottomless pit of ignorance of denial of reality from our "so called" government.

Will no one ask our leaders for their views on the acceptability of this vile decimation of the elderly?

f....ng Albo Pty Ltd... A sh!t stain of morality

I couldn't agree more.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1938490684245455055

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 26 June 2025

🔹Active cases: 2,446 (+24.0%)
🔹Active outbreaks: 307 (+17.1%)
🔹Residents cases: 1,752 (+22.6%)
🔹Staff cases: 694 (+28.0%)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 247 (+27)

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 2:42pm

Dear Carl,
many blessings.

There is nothing we can do about Covid.
The vaccines don't work very well and cause too many dangerous side effects and
people in old people's homes will die anyway of common colds and flu too.

We have to accept death as part of life.
100 years ago, not many people even reached 50 years of age.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 9:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 2:42pm:

Dear Carl,
many blessings.

There is nothing we can do about Covid.

The vaccines don't work very well and cause too many dangerous side effects

and
people in old people's homes will die anyway of common colds and flu too.

We have to accept death as part of life.
100 years ago, not many people even reached 50 years of age.

bobby,

It is 2025.

If BIG PHARMA want us to take their 'COVID' vaccines [which they still do!! ],
shouldn't every one of those corporate groups....who manufacture vaccines,
be able to give us evidence [e.g. from safety trails/studies],
which could convince us, that their particular vaccine is safe ?

Informed consent.

I mean.....if only the vaccine manufactures, themselves, know what their vaccines contain.......
shouldn't the vaccine manufactures at least run some exhaustive safety trails/studies,
AND PUBLISH THEM.....
so that everyone CAN HAVE A HIGH CONFIDENCE, that their vaccines are not harmful ?

That sounds reasonable to me.

After all.....we don't want the chance of ppl dropping dead......only a few days after they have been vaccinated.

Do we ?

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1749984214/14#14

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:47pm

Yadda,

Quote:

I believe the true toll of negative consequences has been hidden from us.

Also - it's very hard to know how many people were saved by the vaccines
versus how many died or suffered life long medical problems from it.
It was always a cost/benefit analysis and gamble.

I mean -
I got Covid twice, a long time after I was 3 times vaccinated with AZ -
would I have died without the vaccine?
- no one knows.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 11:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:47pm:

Yadda,

Quote:

Hmmm.

Stay safe bobby........and all.

I didn't get the vaxx.

I'm not sure if i ever caught 'COVID'.......

But back, .....it was when we all had to wear masks in public,
i remember i had one 'off' day, when i know that i felt a bit 'confused'.

It was just the one day, that i felt, 'not myself'......but OK again, after that.

It was back on 2020-Aug-30,
i know the date, because i decided record how i was feeling that day.....

Quote:

COVID episode???
Around 11.00 am, preparing bath, was feeling a little disoriented and 'confused'.
I had to think, deliberately, about what are usually routine daily tasks.

I was not 'with it'.
An inability to both focus and then 'retain' ?
A dementia episode ?

It was just that day.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aquarius on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 8:38am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 10:32pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 10:24pm:

Look out, Bobby... NB.1.8.1 is coming for YOU!!

Shocking and disgraceful stuff.

True.

Older people are always going to be more susceptible to any infection due to their immunosenescence. And mRNA vaccines do not give the best protection to the elderly because their reponse levels are inferior to those in younger people. They'd be better off with inactivated vaccines.

Or they could take antiretrovirals if infected.

Viruses evolve and weaken over time. And that is exactly what we are seeing with the mutations of covid. It's not the same virus.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 8:47am

Number of Australian Aged Care SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) deaths up until 2019: 0 (zero).

Number of Australian Aged Care SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) deaths from 2020 - 2025: 7,451 (and counting).

Effort made by government to anything about this disgraceful carnage: 0 (zero).

Perhaps a little bit of effort was made by the previous Morrison Federal government but that was all part of the 'general'attempt to stop the virus in the hope it would 'go away' after 12 or 18 months like the original SARS 20 years ago.

How anyone (apart from the usual suspects on this forum) can find this even remotely acceptable is completely beyond me.

Mind you, a lot of it has to do with the fact that the majority of the population are completely unaware of this or anything Covid related these days - just what government and big business was hoping for.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aquarius on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:08am

Frail aged. Comorbidities. Lack of proper infection control practices. Carers with no experience.

Nursing homes ... God's waiting rooms. People die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:21am

Aged Care was originally for those elderly who had no relatives and/or children (here in Australia) to take care of them. Which is a fair call and service of society.

But 90% of those in Aged Care since are these days the Elderly who are DUMPED by their Children and/or Relatives who just can't be f#@ked. No wonder they are never happy.

That angry & upset old lady who was tasered by Police, for expressing her hate for being in the Aged Care Facility had bloody EIGHT kids and not one of them or all of them collectively wanted anything to do with her until after she was dead which is a majority circumstance of visitation - they only visit when they're about to die.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:23am

Aquarius wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:08am:

Frail aged. Comorbidities. Lack of proper infection control practices. Carers with no experience.

Nursing homes ... God's waiting rooms. People die.

Indeed.

My 95 year old aunt had another fall on Friday and had to be admitted to a major Perth public (State government run) hospital.

The ambulance paramedics told me to wait at least 2 hours before I go to see her because of the usual ambulance ramping. When I got there just over 2 hours later she was still waiting with the ambulance paramedics.

Anyway, during the whole time I was there I didn't see more than 2 or 3 masks being worn but there were quite a few hand sanitiser stations to be seen.

If this is supposed to be the response to what is predicted to be the worst flu (and Covid, but they won't mention that of course) season in many years then no wonder we are well and truly f___ed.

It is also quite ironic and ever so slightly amusing when I see signs throughout the hospital saying "we are following the current government health advice".

Yeah, right... reminds me of the idiom of the fox guarding the henhouse.

Worst flu (and Covid, RSV, etc.) season in years... of course it will be. And again, how many people remember when Australia was mostly flu and Covid free for most of 2020 and 2021 and if they do remember - what the reasons were for that?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:33am

Jasin wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

Disgraceful, isn't it?

Unfortunately, this is another sad product of our selfish "me, me, me" society these days. I've been staying with and taking care of my elderly aunt for the past 20 years since my mother died (all 3 of us lived together back then) and especially the last 2 years since my aunt had her first serious fall.

After her latest fall on Friday I've been informed that her admission to full time aged care is going to be expedited. It's very sad but unfortunately necessary now because she is constantly at risk of falling and I can't watch her all day and night and I don't/haven't had anyone to help me.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Aquarius on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:59am

Jasin wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

I always remember a lady who was admitted to the dementia hostel I was working at. She was maybe in the early stages of dementia but she was really on the ball. (however sometimes tended to over imbibe!)

She came to me one morning and asked if she would be able to go home that day. I explained that it might be a bit unsafe for her at home because of her broken arm - caused by the over imbibing.

She replied - but darling, if I went home today and died tomorrow, I'd die happy because it was in my own home. :'(

I've always remembered that because it was basically the same sentiment for most of those older people in care - they didn't want to be there. They weren't afraid of dying - just didn't want to merely exist and languish for years in some alien environment (to them) whilst slowly declining and then thankfully succumbing to their age and frailties ... all the while having been "cared" for by some staff who neither had the time nor compassion to make them not feel like a nuisance.

On the other hand, there are wonderful carers who work in these facilities. But it doesn't really change the residents' views - they simply would prefer not to be there. And if that meant death, then so be it ...

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 11:15am

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:33am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

A nursing home is the best place for her. You can't monitor her 24/7.
Nursing homes are purpose built for very old people.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 11:36am

Carl,

Quote:

My 95 year old aunt had another fall on Friday and had to be admitted
to a major Perth public (State government run) hospital.

That's what happens -
they even fall over on to soft carpet and still manage to break an arm or a hip.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:10am

People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia is the claim here.

This is simply not true in the general community—thanks largely
to the 90+ percent of the vaccinated population, which has set
herd immunity in place.

Refer: https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/aus

This confirms that only two people in Australia have died from
COVID this year, on 4 January and 10 January.

But I do agree, the COVID death rate in aged care facilities is not
acceptable under anybody’s opinion. Of course, there's the obvious
co-morbidity problem with the aged infirm. Someone who's ninety
or ninety-five can easily die from even a minor respiratory illness
that develops into—say—pneumonia for example.

So... at first glance the claim is true of course, but on closer examination
it needs to be considered in the light of actual statistical data, rather
than a misleading, dramatic headline.

I have to note too that the "big pharma" conspiracy theorists are
still active on this forum. Will they ever acknowledge the millions
of lives saved with COVID vaccinations?

Or will they continue to harp on about people suffering from so-called
long COVID—but without acknowledging those same people may
well have died without the vaccine?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 10:12am

Hey Geoff.

As I have pointed out to Bobby several times during the past 2 years or so - Covid Live is no longer (and hasn't been for quite some time) a reliable indication of Covid cases and deaths in Australia.

This is mainly due to the almost total lack of information provided nowadays by State and Federal governments.

Quote:

This confirms that only two people in Australia have died from COVID this year, on 4 January and 10 January.

And that cannot possibly be right because there have been 27 deaths in Australian Aged Care alone just for last week and a total of 247 deaths since the start of this year.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1938490684245455055

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/covid-19-outbreaks-in-australian-residential-aged-care-homes-27-june-2025

And that's just for Aged Care. Who knows how many deaths there have been in the 'general population'?

Seeing as Covid is still at least 5 times more deadly than the flu according to Australian Bureau of Statistics figures for last year then if you mulitply the number of flu deaths so far by 5 then you'll probably get a fairly accurate number.

Yes, the resident antivaxxers are still at it. With the exception of Sir Nail thank goodness. Perhaps he's finally "seen the light" and realised vaccines actually save many, many lives?

But, I doubt it.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 10:20am

Oh, and it doesn't look too good with Covid for the whole of Australia right now.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1938522035430502658

Quote:

COVID cases increasing across most of Australia: QLD (+28.9%) 201 in hosp (+45.6%), ACT (+20.7%), NSW (+17.5%), WA (+17.5%) 156 avg daily hosp, VIC (+16%), SA (+9.5%).

TAS down (-11.7%)

Aged care up (+24%) with 27 deaths reported.

WA's cases are really skyrocketing at the moment. Maybe people are not washing their hands enough? ::)

Information and advice from governments on TV, radio and newspapers, even about Covid vaccinations? Zero. Nada. Zilch.

Just keep working, shopping and spending. Nothing to see here is the government's "official" response.

Disgraceful stuff.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:15am

Have to agree with you Carl.
Covid is still a problem.

If only we had an effective vaccine instead of the garbage currently on offer.

You have had 7shots and still live in fear .
Obviously they don't frigging work

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:35am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 2:10am:

But I do agree, the COVID death rate in aged care facilities is not
acceptable under anybody’s opinion. Of course, there's the obvious
co-morbidity problem with the aged infirm. Someone who's ninety
or ninety-five can easily die from even a minor respiratory illness
that develops into—say—pneumonia for example.

Covid HAS become a minor respiratory illness.

Sir William Osler first referred to pneumonia as “the old man's friend”—identifying it as a common cause of relatively peaceful death in the late 1800s. Taken off by it an acute, short, not often painless illness, the old man escapes those “cold gradations of decay” so distressing to himself and to his friends.’ In describing pneumonia, Osler was well aware the pneumonia causes discomfort: “Pain in the side develops often of an agonizing character.” He also knew of its death toll, as he commented that “So fatal is it in this country, at least, that one may say that to die of pneumonia is the natural end of old people.”

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 7:22pm

Frank wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:35am:

Covid HAS become a minor respiratory illness.

You know, I could spend lots of time providing links which prove that isn't true.

Like I've done so many times here in the past.

But, since this is Frank (and I am really very busy right now) I will just reply with one word which is very much "Frankesque":

BOLLOCKS

Thank you for your attention.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 7:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

More BOLLOCKS (after the first 2 lines).

You're welcome (again). :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 8:13pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:35am:

Covid HAS become a minor respiratory illness.

You are captured.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 12:36am

I was as crook as ever today - Temp. 37.5 C.
I took a test at midnight and I've got bloody Covid.

see here:

C stands for control line region, and T stands for test line region.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:04am

Ah, congratulations Bobby.

How many times have you had it? 2, 3 or more?

Not to worry though - Covid is just a "mild respiratory virus" now.

Just ask Frank or aquascoot (but check out my signature at the bottom of my posts first).

But, seriously - I hope it doesn't affect you too much this time and get well soon.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:08am

Carl D wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:04am:

Carl,
I think I'm gunna die this time - my 3rd infection.
I had a coughing fit & I thought I had broken a rib from coughing but it's OK.
Today I went through over 200 tissues.

The only place I’ve been to in the last few weeks is the local shopping center.
There is always someone sneezing and coughing in there.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 6:09am

Hay Bobby.

Remember what Dan said

This all ends when we get enough jabs in arms.

Now I hope you have been on vitamin d which halves the severity of covid. Pfizer won't tell you that because they want you sick so the government can pay them , not just for their worthless vaccine but 2000 for their anti viral drugs. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 6:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 6:09am:

Dan was full of bullshit.

I take Vitamin D every day -
have done so for the last 15 years or more.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 7:38am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 6:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 6:09am:

Dan was full of bullshit.

I take Vitamin D every day -
have done so for the last 15 years or more.

Dan kept everyone safe Bobby.
All that sacrifice
And now they are just letting it rip because their vaccine is a Dud.

Pfizer should be sued under Australian consumer law for making false claims .

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 7:38am:

Dan kept everyone safe Bobby.
All that sacrifice
And now they are just letting it rip because their vaccine is a Dud.

Pfizer should be sued under Australian consumer law for making false claims .

That's not the reason why "they" decided to "let it rip".

And I'm sure you know that.

And Pfizer should be thanked for saving possibly millions of lives with their vaccines.

I'm sure you know that too. Or you should.

I wonder how Bobby is going today?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:27am

Carl D wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 7:38am:

Dan kept everyone safe Bobby.
All that sacrifice
And now they are just letting it rip because their vaccine is a Dud.

Pfizer should be sued under Australian consumer law for making false claims .

I think I'm a little better today -
this 3rd dose of Covid is far worse than the previous two.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:27am:

Carl D wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 7:38am:

Dan kept everyone safe Bobby.
All that sacrifice
And now they are just letting it rip because their vaccine is a Dud.

Pfizer should be sued under Australian consumer law for making false claims .

I think I'm a little better today -
this 3rd dose of Covid is far worse than the previous two.

Hey Bobby.

Being unwell is uncomfortable and it's a challenge.
You can use discomfort and challenge to grow.
You can emerge from the experience a stronger person.
This is the way to deal with pain, ill health. cancer etc

Use it to make you stronger.

Resisting , being a cry baby, constructing a narrative of " poor me" will not help.
Meditate and imagine your powerful immune system smashing this puny virus.

Research has shown this actually works.
It's good science, unlike an ineffective Dud of a vaccine :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:41am:

dear Horse man,

I am trying to put a positive spin on it.

The violent reaction to this Covid infection is because my
immune system was primed by 3 shots of AstraZeneca and
two actual cases of Covid before -
it was ready to hit the Covid on the head.
I've been through over 200 tissues per day and coughed my guts out
and my nose was either dry or running like a tap.
I have had a constant bad headache that Panadols won't fix although
they allow me to sleep for up to 4 hours at a time.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 2:52pm

For my man flu - or should I say Covid I'm gonna make a chicken soup.

It's on now: 2 drumsticks, onion, garlic, and herbs and salt - no oil -
to be simmered at the lowest possible temperature for at least 1.5 hours -
then I'll add some mixed veges with carrots and maybe a few noodles for 10 minutes?
maybe use a spud instead of noodles?

That's what I need.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 4:44pm

And here it is - it was very nice indeed.

I had 3 bowls like this:

Chicken soup - the only food to eat when you have man flu.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 7:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:41am:

I wonder what might have happened to my elderly aunt and I if we hadn't been vaccinated with this "ineffective Dud of a vaccine"?

We both had Covid in September 2023.

She was 93 years old at the time and she'd had 5 Covid vaccinations up until then.

I was 66 and I'd had 4 Covid vaccinations.

If I hadn't tested both of us with RATs I wouldn't have known that we even had Covid.

And, no... before you go off again like a frog in a sock... I don't believe it means that Covid has become a "mild respiratory virus" or "just the sniffles". Bobby is proof of that. I believe it means the vaccines work and they keep a lot of people out of the hospital (or the morgue).

How many Covid vaccinations have you had, Bobby? If you've only had 2 then you're a 'sitting duck' for getting badly affected by Covid... and it appears that is what happened.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 7:17pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 1:04am:

I haven't had it once. Never. Ever.

Oh, and I'm vaccinated.

I wonder if those two things are connected.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:18pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 7:10pm:

How many Covid vaccinations have you had, Bobby?
If you've only had 2 then you're a 'sitting duck' for getting badly affected by Covid... and it appears that is what happened.

I already said in reply 1299 above:

The violent reaction to this Covid infection is because my
immune system was primed by 3 shots of AstraZeneca and
two actual cases of Covid before.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 11:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:18pm:

I already said in reply 1299 above:

The violent reaction to this Covid infection is because my
immune system was primed by 3 shots of AstraZeneca and
two actual cases of Covid before.

Ah, but the excellent Pfizer Covid vaccines are available. The latest one here in Australia is still the JN.1 vaccine which is already a bit out of date variant wise but still provides a reasonable amount of protection.

I don't know if you're still allowed to have a Covid vaccination right after being infected or even if it's recommended? Some time ago you had to wait 3 months (I think?) after a Covid infection before vaccination.

Mind you, that was in the days when the majority of Covid cases were reported and that stopped long ago. Probably best to ask your GP about when would be the best time for a vaccine if you're interested.

Oh, and don't take any notice of people like aquascoot - Covid is still NOT "a mild respiratory virus" these days (and the money going to Pfizer for producing the vaccines is not being used by the CEO to pay for mistresses and yachts).

:)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 11:25pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 11:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:18pm:

I already said in reply 1299 above:

The violent reaction to this Covid infection is because my
immune system was primed by 3 shots of AstraZeneca and
two actual cases of Covid before.

But I don't trust mRNA vaccines -
there are too many dangerous side effects and what about the switch off button?
What causes it to stop making antigens?

AstraZeneca used the old fashioned and harmless monkey adenovirus -
over 40 years of history and success -
that's why I only took it instead of the mRNA stuff.
It's no longer available.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:22am

You are improving Bobby.
You now have the confidence that you won
Men don't want a hug, they want to win.

You stood up to the virus and kicked its ass.

By the way, pain and challenge " reset" your toughness.

Women who have given birth naturally report about 1/2 the distress when they get a flu.
Why?

Because childbirth is SO PAINFUL
It recalibrates them

So covid is like " no big deal".

It's why you always want to keep stress testing yourself.
Loving the adventure of seeing what your body can do

What's the alternative.

Hide in your bedroom and slowly rot away. Weak timid frightened meek cowardly soft and fragile ?
Yuk

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:30am

Quote:

Loving the adventure of seeing what your body can do

In research studies, more than 200 symptoms have been linked to long COVID. Symptoms may stay the same over time, get worse, or go away and come back.

Common symptoms of long COVID include:

Extreme tiredness, especially after activity.
Problems with memory, often called brain fog.
A feeling of being lightheaded or dizzy.
Problems with taste or smell.

Other symptoms of long COVID include:

Sleep problems.
Shortness of breath.
Cough.
Headache.
Fast or irregular heartbeat.
Digestion problems, such as loose stools, constipation or bloating.

Some people with long COVID may have other illnesses. Diseases caused or made worse by long COVID include migraine, lung disease, autoimmune disease and chronic kidney disease.

Diseases that people may be diagnosed with due to long COVID include:

Heart disease.
Mood disorders.
Anxiety.
Stroke or blood clots.
Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, also called POTS.
Myalgic encephalomyelitis-chronic fatigue syndrome, also called ME-CFS.
Mast cell activation syndrome.
Fibromyalgia.
Diabetes.
Hyperlipidemia.

Yep, sure sounds like a lot of fun, doesn't it?

What an adventure. Not.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 9:04am

Bobby has Covid

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 10:21am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:22am:

This time hit me very hard.
I'm still not 100% but it's been only 5 days.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 10:23am

Carl D wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:30am:

Quote:

Loving the adventure of seeing what your body can do

Don't you mean "Loving the adventure of seeing what SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) can do to your body"?

Especially after multiple infections. And extra especially if you're not up to date with your vaccinations.

Long COVID: Lasting effects of COVID-19

[quote]In research studies, more than 200 symptoms have been linked to long COVID. Symptoms may stay the same over time, get worse, or go away and come back.

Common symptoms of long COVID include:

Extreme tiredness, especially after activity.
Problems with memory, often called brain fog.
A feeling of being lightheaded or dizzy.
Problems with taste or smell.

Other symptoms of long COVID include:

Sleep problems.
Shortness of breath.
Cough.
Headache.
Fast or irregular heartbeat.
Digestion problems, such as loose stools, constipation or bloating.

Some people with long COVID may have other illnesses. Diseases caused or made worse by long COVID include migraine, lung disease, autoimmune disease and chronic kidney disease.

Diseases that people may be diagnosed with due to long COVID include:

Heart disease.
Mood disorders.
Anxiety.
Stroke or blood clots.
Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, also called POTS.
Myalgic encephalomyelitis-chronic fatigue syndrome, also called ME-CFS.
Mast cell activation syndrome.
Fibromyalgia.
Diabetes.
Hyperlipidemia.

Yep, sure sounds like a lot of fun, doesn't it?

What an adventure. Not.[/quote]

I had many of those symptoms. >:(

It's a bio weapon.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 12:51pm

I rang work this morning. Not coming in today or tomorrow.
I got Covid off a guy called Bobby. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 12:54pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 12:51pm:

I rang work this morning. Not coming in today or tomorrow.
I got Covid off a guy called Bobby. :)

I did go to the supermarket but at 7am when there was hardly anyone there -
and with a mask and washed hands. :-[

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:07pm

Forums are contagious

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:31pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:07pm:

Forums are contagious

They say you should wait 4 days between Covid tests so
I'll do another test tomorrow or Saturday.
My nose is still running and I'm still coughing so I'm sure I've still got it.
I have gone down from 200 tissues a day to only 100.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:37pm

Go outside for some fresh air, find some Chinese people and cough and sneeze on them. It the only way to exorcise the Covid. I guarantee you will start to feel better.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:53pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:

Go outside for some fresh air, find some Chinese people and cough and sneeze on them. It the only way to exorcise the Covid. I guarantee you will start to feel better.

I'm a responsible person.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 6^th, 2025 at 9:09am

Meanwhile, the apparent deliberate slaughter of our elderly continues unabated.

Another 23 deaths last week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1941026198253195429

Quote:

COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 3 July 2025

🔹Active cases: 1,850 (-22.2%)
🔹Active outbreaks: 260 (-7.1%)
🔹Resident cases: 1,302 (-24.5%)
🔹Staff cases: 548 (-16.3%)
🔹Reported deaths in 2025: 269 (+23)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1941026200920773129

Quote:

7,473 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸1,078 reported deaths in 2024
🔸269 reported deaths in 2025

And... here comes yet another new variant. About to be brought to Australia once again by airlines who are only interested in profit and greed (no masks, no testing, no quarantine, just more $$$$ for them).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1941050120138834066

Quote:

🇦🇺Australia: New Covid-19 variant known as XFG, ‘Stratus’ spreading overseas: What Australians must know.

"A new, highly contagious Covid-19 strain has emerged globally as thousands of Australians prepare to travel overseas. This is what we know"

https://archive.md/5uUx8

Quote:

The latest Covid-19 variant is known as XFG (“Stratus”), which is often called a “Frankenstein variant” because it’s a mix-and-match of different virus types, or has many changes.

This basically means it’s a new version built from parts of others. Like a puzzle, these changes make XFG unique. These unique features often help it spread more easily, which is why health experts worldwide are keeping a close eye on it.

It’s another example of how the virus keeps evolving.

But, as usual, as far as our governments are concerned it's "nothing to see here, just keep working, shopping and spending, taking overseas holidays (and keep getting sick and dying) for the economy.

Irresponsible, disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 6^th, 2025 at 9:28am

In my wife's Small public hospital there are currently 7 patients Out of 20, who are occupying a 500 dollar a day bed because they are " awaiting placement in a nursing home"

This at a time when nurses are on strike
At a time when there is a crisis in attracting public hospital nurses who want to do acute care medical nursing and not changing nappies and being hit by dementia patients.

Clearly governments recognise they have way more elderly patients then they can care for.

The system cannot deal with them all.

Covid is therefore not a priority.

Therefore in the words of the very wise aquascoot you are going to have to take personal responsibility for your own health and that of any relatives.

Governments are not your extended family.
They will increasingly abandon you

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 10:36am

This is Covid for me on my 3rd infection - Corona means crown - a spike protein -

I was drowned, I was washed up and left for dead
I fell down to my feet and I saw they bled
Yeah, yeah
I frowned at the crumbs of a crust of bread
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I was crowned with a spike right through my head

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 11:23am

If you think that was bad, Bobby, then wait for number 4.

Oh, you are thinking about getting another Covid vaccination I take it?

At one time you had to wait 3 or 4 months after a Covid infection before you could get another vaccine but I don't believe anyone (especially the government) cares anymore.

The government saves money on vaccines by allowing everyone to get infected several times a year... that's the government's "idea" of Covid vaccinations these days.

Except they don't tell you the part about all the heart, lung and brain damage, etc. that this "natural vaccine" can cause.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 11:28am

Carl D wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

I don't want any mRNA vaccine - I don't trust it.
If they still had AstraZeneca I'd take it in 3 months but it's not available anymore.

This 3rd dose of Covid is much worse than the last 2 -
I was over those in a day or two.

I just spoke to old guy who has a cold and he refuses to get a Covid test -
tells me it can't be Covid. ::)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 6:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

Incorrect.

Heart lung and brain damage would cost the government a fortune and if THE SCIENCE showed the vaccines reduced these things, the vaccine would be close to mandatory.

Instead The SCIENCE says NO if you are under 65.

Your false medical advice should be banned ( the way they banned you quack idol Dr Berger )

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:34am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 12:36am:

I was as crook as ever today - Temp. 37.5 C.
I took a test at midnight and I've got bloody Covid.

see here:

C stands for control line region, and T stands for test line region.

Old test:

New test - all clear but I still have symptoms:

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 12:24pm

Unbelievable.

Bobby's just been 'floored' by Covid for the third time and he's still carrying on about the vaccines.

I'm ignoring aquascoot and CerealBrain (lol) because I would have expected nothing less from those two.

Definitely Twilight Zone here.

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Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 3:02pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 12:24pm:

Listen smartarse.
Covid is a bad virus - it is a genetically engineered bio weapon -
the result of a crime against humanity.

That doesn't mean that a genetically engineered vaccine is any good -
how many people died from the vaccines?

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:42pm

Bobby,

1. I am not being a smartarse.

2. Yes, Covid is a bad virus but it is NOT a "genetically engineered bio weapon" that was deliberately released. Worst case scenario (in my opinion) - it was a naturally occurring virus that was being 'tinkered with' (i.e. gain of function research for creating vaccines) in the lab and someone got a little careless and took it home with them. The rest is history, as they say.

3. Yes, some people have died from the vaccines but it is a tiny number compared to the 20 million (estimated) deaths so far from the virus itself.

This has happened with other vaccines too so I don't see why all the "focus" is on the Covid vaccines?

4. You've had 3 Covid infections now and you're not up to date with your vaccinations. At the risk of sounding like a "smartarse" if I were you I would do everything possible to avoid infection number 4.

One of many articles on the subject:

Every COVID Infection Increases Your Risk of Long COVID, Study Warns

Quote:

Science Alert Vaccines ensure bouts of COVID are far less deadly than they were at the pandemic‘s start, yet multiple studies now suggest even seemingly mild cases of the coronavirus have a cost. With every single infection, our risk of long COVID increases.

While this risk starts (relatively) low for most of us, particularly those vaccinated and in younger people or children, there are concerning signs it may not stay low. If each new invasion of our bodies allows this insidious virus a greater chance to cause damage, such small risks will eventually add up to a big one.

Even if you only experience the symptom of the initial infection mildly.

“Each subsequent COVID infection will increase your risk of developing chronic health issues like diabetes, kidney disease, organ failure and even mental health problems,” physician Rambod Rouhbakhsh warned journalist Sara Berg in an American Medical Association podcast earlier this year.

“This dispels the myth that repeated brushes with the virus are mild and you don’t have to worry about it. It is akin to playing Russian roulette.”

Russian roulette... yes, that sums it up perfectly.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:44pm

What the hell is long covid?
The government shut down all the long covid clinics.

Some people after they get a mild respiratory virus and spend a few days on the couch watching Netflix, discover they kind of like wearing their pyjamas all day.

And morons spreading the long covid rubbish are " enabling " them
to continue in the sick role.

Long covid is just another excuse for people to rationalise their anxiety and their laziness.

Get out of bed and move.
Have some God dammed self respect and stop with the hypochondriasis.

As for your claim that 100s of millions of people have suffered permanent ill health from covid.

Stop making stuff up

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:56pm

Oh, do go away you annoying little troll.

You really are trying my patience lately.

Why do we have to keep going over the same things again and again?

Now, if you'll excuse me I have some more paperwork to do regarding the admission of my elderly aunt into aged care.

I might be back later... then again, maybe not.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Frank on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:00pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:

;D :D :D

You don't know your own mind, gramps.

Because if you call it "tinkered with" then it's not genetically engineered.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

I'm pretty sure I've got long Covid now.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:54pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:

Bobby,

1. I am not being a smartarse.

2. Yes, Covid is a bad virus but it is NOT a "genetically engineered bio weapon" that was deliberately released. Worst case scenario (in my opinion) - it was a naturally occurring virus that was being 'tinkered with' (i.e. gain of function research for creating vaccines) in the lab and someone got a little careless and took it home with them. The rest is history, as they say.

It is a bio weapon.

You need to read all 126 pages here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/1885#1885

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 4:02pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

Carl is listening to the Beatles classic

All you need is love.

But In Carl's version it's titled

All you need is fear :'( :'(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 6:15pm

The only fear I have at the moment is the possibilty of losing too many brain cells from reading your posts (and the posts of several others here).

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Gordon on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 6:24pm

Well I've been feeling like crap for 9 days now, headache, cough, nose running like a tap and all the other usual symptoms. Didn't stop me from going skiing for the last 2 days tho ;D ;D ;D

Just got home and grabbed a covid test, neg to covid,rsv,flu A&B.

Whatever I've got is way worse than pissweak covids.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 1:51pm

You live in New Shanghai city. What do you expect?
I've got a Waterview that would cost millions of dollars to afford, if it were in that lost paradise you live in.
You need to sell up Gordo and move to a cleaner and clearer environment.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:13pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 1:51pm:

Covid is everywhere in Melbourne -
every supermarket, shopping center, bus and train is a disease factory spreading:
Covid, RSV and Flu A & B as we speak.
There must be 1000s of victims getting infected every day.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 9:18am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:13pm:

And still no word from our so called leaders (government) about how to take precautions to protect ourselves from all this sickness.

Not even advice to make sure you're up to date with your Covid vaccinations.

And definitely no mention of the m(ask) word, of course.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 10:32am

Carl D wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 9:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:13pm:

It's time for the return of masks and strict hand cleaning at the
entrances to all shopping centers and supermarkets.

However - I still don't trust the mRNA vaccines.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:06pm

I always wear a mask when I go into a bank.😷

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:24pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

I always wear a mask when I go into a bank.😷

Very funny.

The trouble is that Melbourne shopping centers and supermarkets are full
of people who look like death warmed up -
as white as ghosts - walking around coughing and sneezing everywhere.
No wonder the disease is spreading -
I'm still recovering from my Covid after 2 weeks. >:(

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 5:29pm

I didn't realise or feel the pollution of a major city like Sydney Shanghai until I moved back from 4 years of clean air in the Riverina. Cities are a sickly state of living. I got sick of it after just 2 years, despite the good money. City people are so miserable and angry compared to country people.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by aquascoot on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 5:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

I always wear a mask when I go into a bank.😷

Pale sickly fragile.

That's what happens when you eat the modern diet, take the modern medicines and tune into the modern media.

You need physical acts of endurance , a diet of meat fish chicken fruit and veggies. And a mind which loves a challenge and despises the cult of safety and comfort.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 6:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

I always wear a mask when I go into a bank.😷

Maybe they need to consult a real live Indian Guru to show them a better way?

Mike Tyson did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CxCx3oVp1M

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:03am

Now we know where Tyson gets his gunja addiction from. Lol

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:32am

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:03am:

Now we know where Tyson gets his gunja addiction from. Lol

We all need a real live Indian Guru to show us a better way.

People used to have to spend a lot of money to go to India to find one -
but now it's all there for free on YouTube. :)

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jovial Monk on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 12:18pm

With King Donald I having dismantled USAID expect more diseases to hit us, UK, US, Europe etc,

Probably cases of Ebola virus in the US or China etc this year. Monkey pox and so on.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 5:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:32am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:03am:

Now we know where Tyson gets his gunja addiction from. Lol

We all need a real live Indian Guru to show us a better way.

People used to have to spend a lot of money to go to India to find one -
but now it's all there for free on YouTube. :)

Yes. Look what they did for Lennon and the Beatles. Turned them into druggos. ;D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Bobby. on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 5:21pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 5:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:32am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 10:03am:

Now we know where Tyson gets his gunja addiction from. Lol

We all need a real live Indian Guru to show us a better way.

People used to have to spend a lot of money to go to India to find one -
but now it's all there for free on YouTube. :)

Yes. Look what they did for Lennon and the Beatles. Turned them into druggos. ;D

Did they?

Gurus are anti- drug.

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by SerialBrain9 on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Vaccines Caused 80% of Autism Cases in America, Official Data Shows

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/vaccination-and-neurodevelopmental-disorders-a-study-of-nine-year-old-children-enrolled-in-medicaid/

https://slaynews.com/news/vaccines-caused-80-autism-cases-america-official-data-shows/

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by Jasin on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 8:30pm

Isn't Autism another word for Leftism ?

A lot of Americans think Australia's use of English is Tourrets Syndrome.
No f#ckin way. :D

Title: Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 8:36pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

Vaccines Caused 80% of Autism Cases in America, Official Data Shows

The data shows no such thing.

From your own sources:

"Vaccinations required for school attendance have increased nearly threefold since the 1950s, now targeting 17 infectious diseases. However, the impact of the expanded schedule on children’s overall health remains uncertain."

"These results suggest that the current vaccination schedule may be contributing to multiple forms of NDD".