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Title: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 1:30pm

New UK coronavirus strain found in Perth hotel quarantine system as three arrivals test positive

"Three people in Western Australia's hotel quarantine system have tested positive for the new COVID-19 variant from the UK, Premier Mark McGowan has revealed."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by JJ on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 1:38pm

It's widely being referred to as the South African mutation at this stage.

The good news is the vaccines should be effective against it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am

Well, let's hope they can keep a lid on this before it gets loose. Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I guess we're lucky (again) that the recent hotel quarantine breaches happened before this new variant arrived in Perth and they've (hopefully) tightened up the security in these hotels.

And, I see this muppet is still at it:

Coronavirus quarantine breacher Jenny D'Ubios arrested again for alleged wrong bail address

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-05/wa-quarantine-breacher-jenny-dubios-arrested-over-bail-address/13033834

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A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

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The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 11:01am

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

[quote]The Magistrates Court heard the resident of an address provided by Ms D'Ubios, in Perth's southern suburbs, had not agreed Ms D'Ubios could stay there.

The police prosecutor said the resident had "never given permission" for her to stay and had not spoken to Ms D'Ubios for "eight months".

The court heard Ms D'Ubios went to see police in Perth and provided a second address but this was also unsuitable.

The prosecutor said a person contacted at the second address did not know Ms D'Ubios.

He told the court she had "continually been evasive" in dealing with authorities, "doesn't give the correct address" and did not consult with the residents.

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.[/quote]

I agree. Get rid of 'em!

In all seriousness, that woman has some very serious mental issues though so, as a duty of care, the WA Health Department should offer her some help.

Otherwise, she's just gonna be doing stupid irresponsible things wherever she goes.

A little time in a mental health facility wouldn't hurt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 11:45am

There's heaps of different 'Strains' going around.
Not much interest in Peru/Chile strain that can increase in very 'sparsely' populated areas - now that's dangerous, but because it ain't UK or USA...

Mutation shows the Virus is WINNING.
It's 'Growing'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 11:01am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm

I see in today's West Australian newspaper that our Premier, Mark McGowan, is extremely concerned about this new COVID-19 variant.

He says that National Cabinet should consider banning all flights to Australia from the United Kingdom for the time being.

That will be up to the Prime Minister so I won't be holding my breath waiting for him to make a decision.

Premier McGowan says that at the very least people should be tested for COVID-19 before they board the planes to come here - which is what a lot of people, myself included, have been saying for a while now. For "returned travellers" from everywhere, not just the UK.

But, this new COVID-19 variant has probably already spread to all corners of the globe by now so banning flights from the UK won't make much difference anymore. It'll be too little, too late as usual.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

what about all those stranded aussies.... :'( :'( :'(

we owe them!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:45pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

what about all those stranded aussies.... :'( :'( :'(

we owe them!

they dont matter cods.

all that matters is keeping gweggy safe.

are they doing anything as meaningful as posting "the alledge child rapist blah,blah, blah" 100,000 times ::) ::) ::) ::)

the whole world must bend to gweggys higher purpose.

his mission in life

his reason for existence :-/ :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:47pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

what about all those stranded aussies.... :'( :'( :'(

we owe them!

Maybe.

But, as I've said once or twice in the past - I'm prepared to bet that a large number of them are expatriates who have been happily living overseas for years but now that things are getting a bit "virusy" over there they all want to come back to Australia where they believe its safe.

Which it (relatively speaking) is - for the time being.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:49pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

what about all those stranded aussies.... :'( :'( :'(

we owe them!

Maybe.

But, as I've said once or twice in the past - I'm prepared to bet that a large number of them are expatriates who have been happily living overseas for years but now that things are getting a bit "virusy" over there they all now want to come back to Australia where they believe its safe.

Which it (relatively) is - for the time being.

but but but when Albo does come up for air he always says loud and clear..

bring em home.. or.........

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mix_Master on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 5:03pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 5:10pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.[/quote]

Yes.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Mutant strain: Australian leaders to consider tighter rules on UK arrivals

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/states-want-early-testing-of-passengers-from-uk-over-fears-of-mutant-virus-20210106-p56s3c.html

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Prime Minister Scott Morrison has recalled national cabinet a month early to decide whether to tighten precautions on international arrivals over fears travellers from the United Kingdom will spread a more infectious mutant coronavirus strain.

The nation's leaders will meet on Friday rather than in February to consider the health advice from Australia's top medical officers, who will meet on Thursday ahead of Friday's leaders' phone hookup.

Definitely a step in the right direction but I hope they consider (and act) quickly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:49am

Authorities worried UK strain of COVID-19 may be so infectious it broke through normal quarantine protocols

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-08/coronavirus-queensland-uk-strain-hotel-quarantine-cleaner/13039558

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Authorities in Queensland are highly concerned about the case after the woman, aged in her 20s, was out in the community for several days, before developing symptoms on Wednesday and testing positive.

Quote:

It is the first time in the nation that a person has been out in the community while unknowingly ill with the highly-infectious strain.

I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

Yet when it was said to ban flights from Asia you screamed racism.
Funny the double standards you show. ;D

Don't even bother replying. You're a waste of skin.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:57am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

Yet when it was said to ban flights from Asia you screamed racism.

Nope. Not me.

I said ban flights from all countries, right from the start.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:49am:

I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?

And... they're off and running again...

Thousands of shoppers flock to Brisbane supermarkets ahead of three day lockdown

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/thousands-of-shoppers-flock-to-brisbane-supermarkets-ahead-of-three-day-lockdown/news-story/f0a5249282de42fb09c3e1119b3fca16

Quote:

Panic buying has broken out across Greater Brisbane as the city prepares to enter a strict three day lockdown from Friday evening.

Despite pleas from the Queensland Premier and chief health officer, queues quickly formed outside the city’s supermarkets and shelves were rapidly emptied.

No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:54am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:49am:

I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?

No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied. ::)

Lol ;D

Idiots.

Three days. They don't have enough food etc. to last three days?

FFS ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:57am

lol... yep... I had to double check just to make sure the lockdown was for 3 days and not 3 months. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 11:45am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:49am:

I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?

No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied. ::)

Three days my arse.....this will be extended.
And....
What did the premier expect?
Stupid bitch forces an illegal lock down and the scared people go crazy.
The dumb fkkk would have known this would happen. If she didn't then she needs new advisors.

What good does pleading over the air do pubslut?
You and your dumbarse health advisors can eat a dick. You create unease because you're fkkkn retarded. They all are.

Funny thing is.....
You can still go to work.
Can still go shopping.
So long as the multi nationals are filling their bank accounts.
Oh....And it starts at 6pm on Friday..... why not straight away? ;D ;D ;D
What everyone in Brisbane needs to do is stay home all together. No one leave home for one whole week.
No doctors, no supermarkets, no petrol.....nothing. Shut the joint down. Like a blockade on a job site.

bugger you Anna whatevertgebuggeryourlastnameis slut.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 1:57pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 11:45am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:49am:

I see that Brisbane is now going into a 3 day lockdown, I wonder if the same will be happening in WA (and the rest of Australia) very soon?

No mention of toilet rolls in the article but I'll bet they were the first shelves to be emptied. ::)

Three days my arse.....this will be extended.
And....
What did the premier expect?
Stupid bitch forces an illegal lock down and the scared people go crazy.

How is it illegal?

Which law, exactly, has been contravened?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:26pm

Just got back from Belmont Forum shopping centre.

Very busy up there at the moment - especially Coles and Woolworths. Haven't seen as many cars entering the shopping centre carparks from the surrounding streets since just before Christmas.

Has the panic buying started again in Perth?

(Maybe they're all going to the shopping centres to escape the heat? 40 degrees outside right now).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:26pm:

I'm guessing it's the heat.

I'm not moving from air conditioned comfort today.

Currently 40.2 degrees outside.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by JaSin. on Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:51pm

There is a disease in Victoria Park, WA that is killing the lives of thousands.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trick+with+a+knife+strawpeople&&view=detail&mid=9D7CA8EC77BEC24D13009D7CA8EC77BEC24D1300&&FORM=VRDGAR

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:07pm

LOL.

the premier has seen how many votes there are in

1 manufacturing a problem
2 offering yourself as the solution to the problem.

he could ring Dr Jill Biden for some advice perhaps?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

Well, that's just f___ing great, isn't it?

I have to take my 90 year old aunt to the doctors tomorrow because she's been almost unable to walk for the past 2 days (her left hip is giving her increasing trouble).

Then, I'm supposed to take her to the eye specialist at Murdoch on Tuesday for her 6 month eye checkup.

And, on top of all that, I have to spend all day and overnight at Royal Perth Hospital on the 25th February (which just happens to be my aunt's 91st birthday and I won't be with her on the day) to have half of my thyroid and the lump attached to it removed.

Fantastic. These f___ing "returned travellers" strike again.

They stopped the "floating petri dishes" (cruise ships) last year but they didn't stop the flying ones - which are worse regarding the spread of COVID-19, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

I have to have my mother at RPH tomorrow at 9am.

Hopefully all hospital appointments are still going ahead.

Then, I have a medical appointment myself on Tuesday.

It's funny - I actually needed to get more toilet paper, as I'm down to my last few rolls.

I don't think there'll be any left on the shelves tomorrow.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:35pm

Geez, one hotel worker gets a positive to COVID and the whole of WA goes into lockdown!
Why don’t they just lock down the suburbs where it strikes?
So these hotel workers get the Covid because of returned OS travellers?
Maybe lockdown the towns these quarantine hotels are in?

Well 5 days lockdown is better than 5 months!

So here’s Queensland about to open borders to NSW and WA shut shop.

Nothing is certain except... this virus will never go away in this immediate future.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:49pm

Sophia wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:35pm:

The quarantine hotel is in the Perth CBD :(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:35pm:

The quarantine hotel is in the Perth CBD :(

So is just Perth going into lockdown? Or the whole of WA? And border closed again?
I heard on news there may be that spread of mutant Covid in Melbourne that came from Perth :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:03pm

Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:22pm

Just had a call from my doctor (who works at the same medical practice as the doctor my aunt goes to), he says we can't go there tomorrow and my aunt's doctor will be calling at around about the time of her appointment tomorrow (10:45am) and she'll decide if my aunt needs to go in and see her and in the meantime she will give my aunt advice about her hip issue over the phone (she does seem a little better this afternoon, I actually bought her a cheap walking stick at KMart Belmont Forum this morning and its making it a lot easier for her to move around the house).

We'll probably get a call tomorrow cancelling her eye checkup at Murdoch on Tuesday, we're not too worried about that one at this stage, it can be rescheduled for later if necessary.

I recall reading about an article published in one of the Eastern States newspapers recently where the writer described these increasing number of "Aussies" wanting to return to Australia as "Biological Terrorists". Of course, that description never made it into the actual published article. Gee, I wonder why?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:26pm

Sophia wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!

There's been a lot of talk about that recently. But, no action so far, of course.

When you have some of these "returned traveller Karens" complaining about having to spend 2 weeks in quarantine at 5 star inner city hotels you can probably imagine the outrage from a lot of them if they had to quarantine at places like remote mining camps, etc.

Carl's comment: "Don't like it? Don't bother coming to Australia".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:27pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

They're Australians, they're allowed to return home. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!

Bloody hell you go on. You hear from a few people not enjoying their lodgings but the vast majority just do the time and catch up on their reading.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:31pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:27pm:

They're Australians, they're allowed to return home. :o

Yeah, right.

I'm still prepared to bet that the majority of them have been living overseas for years (for things like tax purposes) and now that things are getting a bit "virussy" where they're living they suddenly want to become "dinky di Aussies" again.

And, I bet they'll be off overseas again as soon as the pandemic is over. While still retaining their Australian citizenship, of course. Stuff 'em.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 7:26pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:27pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

They're Australians, they're allowed to return home. :o

When it's safe.

Until then, stay the hell away.

They chose to leave the country - they weren't forced.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 7:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

these appointments will need to be cancelled.

only covid matters.

other medical conditions are not to be taken into consideration

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mjölnir on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 7:33pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:22pm:

Just had a call from my doctor (who works at the same medical practice as the doctor my aunt goes to), he says we can't go there tomorrow and my aunt's doctor will be calling at around about the time of her appointment tomorrow (10:45am) and she'll decide if my aunt needs to go in and see her and in the meantime she will give my aunt advice about her hip issue over the phone (she does seem a little better this afternoon, I actually bought her a cheap walking stick at KMart Belmont Forum this morning and its making it a lot easier for her to move around the house).

We'll probably get a call tomorrow cancelling her eye checkup at Murdoch on Tuesday, we're not too worried about that one at this stage, it can be rescheduled for later if necessary.

I recall reading about an article published in one of the Eastern States newspapers recently where the writer described these increasing number of "Aussies" wanting to return to Australia as "Biological Terrorists".Of course, that description never made it into the actual published article. Gee, I wonder why?

Umm, because they are not?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:02pm

Its time the Federal and State governments started to get their sh*t together REAL QUICK and STOP GAMBLING WITH PEOPLES' LIVES in this country.

They need to:

1. Make sure people are tested for COVID-19 BEFORE they get on a plane to Australia (we keep hearing about that but when will they start doing it?)

2. Quarantine these "returned travellers" OUTSIDE of the major cities (we keep hearing about that one too but so far... yep, you guessed it... all talk and no action).

3. If they can't implement 1 and 2 then CLOSE THE DAMN BORDERS PROPERLY until the pandemic is under control overseas.

I've read somewhere recently that there are an increasing number of people in this country who are getting mighty p***ed off with all of these "returned travellers" bringing COVID-19 into Australia. I can't say I'm surprised. I bet there's been a big increase in that number just from WA alone after today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:05pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

Sorry to hear that Carl

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:37pm

Thanks, Sprint.

My aunt is feeling a bit better now. I still believe it was something she did last Thursday - bending over or something like that.

I had a biopsy done on the lump on the right side of my thyroid last July but the results were inconclusive. The doctor at RPH said there was a 15% chance it could be the beginning of thyroid cancer which is why they're (hopefully) removing it on February 25th.

At least I managed to complete my nearly 8 weeks of 5 day a week radiation treatment for prostate cancer (39 "fractions" as they call them) from mid October until mid December before an outbreak of COVID happened here in Perth, that's what I was most concerned about before the treatments started.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:19pm

Sophia wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Oh... and it’s been said and suggested on this forum.... why are these quarantine hotels in the heart of busy capital cities ffs!

Because they werent built specifically for COVID19 quarantine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:25pm

Cant even believe that question was asked. I mean, why didnt we have large quarantine hotels fully equipped and with appropriate staff and security in isolated locations just waiting for an epidemic to come along.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mjölnir on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:59pm

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:25pm:

I think they want them sent to something like Aboriginal missions. Perhaps Christmas Island or other such facilities even though they would claim those facilities are not fit to send border breachers to.

Perhaps reopen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Head_Quarantine_Station
WA could use Rottnest Island.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by J.D. on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:07pm

Dictator Mark has this covered.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:09pm

COVID-19 Lockdown Sparks Perth Panic Buying | 10 News First.

Dunny paper gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZl3AQeUlIs

In Melbourne during out lockdown -
the plumbers did a roaring trade as people had
flushed kitchen paper towels down the dunnies and
blocked the sewers as they had no crap paper.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by J.D. on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:20pm

The Sandgropers had better hunker down, the mutant variant is on the loose.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mjölnir on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:09pm:

I've never understood that TP thing, We have two toilets both in bathrooms, toilet paper is handy and all but a trip from the dunny to the shower is not an international flight.

It seems some people think TP for their bungholes is the height of existence. It seems there are a lot of Butt-heads out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHv2dIM3t9I

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:56pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:25pm:

I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:05am

So, I wonder which hotel quarantine f___up is responsible for this latest outbreak?

Let's see... might have something to do with this new highly contagious strain of COVID-19 spreading through the hotel airconditioning system? Which, last I heard, was the #1 suspect in the Hotel Grand Chancellor in Brisbane outbreak a few weeks back. Although we still haven't seen any results from testing to see if that was the case. They wouldn't be trying to "sweep it under the carpet" and hoping everyone forgets about it, would they?

Or, is it possibly another case of hotel quarantine "guards" not doing their job properly... too busy playing with their phones, sleeping on the job, sleeping with "returned travellers" in quarantine, etc., etc.

One thing is certain - our Premier, Mark McGowan is no doubt very worried right now seeing as we have a State election in just over a month. Which is probably the main reason for the "snap" lockdown.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:07am

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:56pm:

I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by J.D. on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:35am

Carl D wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:07am:

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:56pm:

I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.

It's to late for Rottnest Island, you lot are doomed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:45am

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 10:25pm:

I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.

Herding cats? I have some experience with that and it sucks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mjölnir on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:47am

Carl D wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:05am:

Sleeping bags on a coral outcrop up north somewhere? Dampier Islands? Just not in my back yard, please? ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 1:25am

Carl D wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 12:07am:

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 11:56pm:

I reckon even Rottnest island is a brain fart. The logistics involved are insane whichever. As has been shown you cant just put people somewhere and expect them to stay there.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be leaving Rottnest Island until the end of their quarantine. I doubt too many of them would be capable of swimming the 18km to the mainland.

yeah, until the first one drowns trying to attempt it. They will still need to quarantine within their facilities on Rottnest which will require a level of enforcement, that would involve another whole workforce to be recruited, trained and housed appropriately.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

please realise that if the appointment is non urgent, you need to be a good citizen and do your part.

we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 11:01am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

A woman who walked free from prison yesterday after fleeing hotel quarantine in Perth halfway through her mandatory quarantine period is back behind bars, the WA Police Minister has revealed.

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.

I agree. Get rid of 'em!

In all seriousness, that woman has some very serious mental issues though so, as a duty of care, the WA Health Department should offer her some help.

Otherwise, she's just gonna be doing stupid irresponsible things wherever she goes.

A little time in a mental health facility wouldn't hurt.[/quote]

What mental health facility have you got?

Funding has been stripped out of mental health all over the country and many mental health specific facilities have been closed.

That why we have so many nutters living in the general community.

Small psych wards have been set up in some hospitals but resources are limited.

She just needs to be shown that the hotel room was luxury by sticking her in a womens prison cell for a month or two.

"Alternative health practitioner" ....whats that?

A self appointed quack?

Must have been bad as she had to ply her trade in Spain.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

I thought Boris had already done that?

Isn't the UK in lockdown?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:07am

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

what about all those stranded aussies.... :'( :'( :'(

we owe them!

Yep .... the same as all the dual citizen Lebs that live in Lebanon most of the time .....

and every time things hot up there they demand to be bought back to Aust by the govt because they're Aussie citizens.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 9:28am

Gnads wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Absolutely!

I thought Boris had already done that?

Isn't the UK in lockdown?

People can leave the UK by air as long as they test negative to COVID.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 9:34am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

If my mother doesn't get immediate medical attention, she might die.

Her appointment was crucial.

She wasn't visiting the place for a bit of recreation - she was accessing vital medical help that will hopefully save her life.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 12:18pm

Lockdowns are a necessary evil to stop the spread, but there must be some common sense involved. The immediate risk of life threatening illness vs. the possible later threat of covid. Easily assessed and the risk can be managed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 12:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 9:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

that would be a decision for the hospital not you.
if they think the visit can be delayed, they will delay it.

you are in a city that has covid.

you could have it and take it into the hospital and infect ill patients,
its not all about you.

the chief health officer must keep the community safe and will make the appropriate decisions
and you must abide by the experts decision

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 2:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 12:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 9:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

why would you hope that?

the premier is locking down to keep everyone safe but YOU think the hospital system should see YOU despite the fact YOU may bring covid in and affect vulnerable people.

that would be a decision for the hospital not you.
if they think the visit can be delayed, they will delay it.

The surgeons said it couldn't be delayed.

They've now just called me and said they're rushing her in to emergency surgery.

If I didn't take her to that appointment yesterday, things would have been very different today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 3:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 9:34am:

Now you understand what that pregnant woman in northern NSW must have been feeling when she was refused access to a QLD hospital. I hope it turns out better for your mum than it did for her.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:41pm

I hope your mother is OK, Greg.

My aunt still has pain in her left hip and has difficulty walking without the stick I bought for her on Sunday.

Because I couldn't take her to the doctor yesterday the doctor called us on the phone and sent a script through to our local chemist for some Prodeine Forte tablets which I picked up a bit later and she needs to take one or two each night before bed. That's on top of the 2 Panadol Osteo tablets in the morning and afternoon.

This lockdown has probably come at a good time for her since she can't leave the house so hopefully it will give her time to recover.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:49pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:41pm:

Thanks Carl.

There's no guarantee the operation will be a success and, I'm worried about the anaesthetic.

It's gonna be hard dropping her off at the hospital tomorrow morning (she has to go in for surgery at 6.30am).

Then, I have to go back and look after Dad who appears to be in his last days.

He's blind, deaf, and can't walk, and now doesn't seem to know who he is or where he is.

I'll make him some breakfast, give him his meds, and just pray mum makes it through the surgery.

Tomorrow ain't gonna be my best day.

And of course, I hope your aunt is okay.

Getting old sucks balls.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:56pm

Meanwhile....

'Bunch of cowboys': Insider claims hotel quarantine security guards in Western Australia are mostly foreign students who are paid 'off the books' in cash - and share IDs so they can Uber on the side

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210309/Claims-hotel-quarantine-security-guards-Western-Australia-mainly-foreign-students.html

Quote:

An insider has blasted Western Australia's hotel quarantine system and accused security companies of hiring and exploiting foreign students.

The source claimed guards were paid minimum wage in cash and off the books so they could work double the 20 hours allowed under their visa arrangements.

It was also alleged that hotel security guards were sharing IDs so they could get away with working a second job such as driving for Uber.

This also made front page news in today's West Australian (see attached image).

I'm sure I heard on the news about a month ago that we weren't going to be using these "el cheapo" security guards for hotel quarantine here in Perth anymore and the police and military were going to be used instead after that idiot woman walked out of the Pan Pacific hotel in the city and ended up in Rockingham nearly 50km away.

What happened? ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:59pm

Sorry to also hear about your dad, Greg.

Yes, getting old really does suck.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:00pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:

This is alarming.

McGowan needs to get serious on this poo.

Stop the smacking daily photo ops, and sort this poo out.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:06pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:59pm:

Sorry to also hear about your dad, Greg.

Yes, getting old really does suck.

Sounds worse than it is I suppose.

I got him the latest and best hearing aids recently, so he can hear, when his carers put them in for him (I have Amana Living help me out during the week).

He can walk to the toilet and back, but that's it.

He's totally blind in one eye, but can see shapes and colours in the other.

I usually buy him Maccas or KFC for lunch, and he loves that.

Someone at RPH told me I should watch his salt intake.

I laughed in their face and said he's gonna eat whatever he wants every day for the rest of his life.

He's almost 90 - salt ain't a consideration at this point.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:07pm

And another...

‘Recipe for disaster’: Returned traveller sounds alarm over Perth’s Four Points quarantine hotel

https://www.smh.com.au/national/recipe-for-disaster-returned-traveler-sounds-alarm-over-perth-s-four-points-quarantine-hotel-20210201-p56ya5.html

Quote:

An immunocompromised woman staying in the same hotel that produced WA’s first local COVID-19 case in 10 months has warned the hotel is primed for more cases thanks to inadequate ventilation and poor PPE use.

Arsiyanti Ardie arrived in WA from Jakarta on January 21 and was sent straight to the Four Points by Sheraton in Perth where she said hotel staff were being provided with poor quality PPE that was not being worn properly.

Quote:

“I kind of look down the hallway to look at the guards sitting on their phones and they will have their masks below their nose and hanging loose,” she said.

Now, isn't that a surprise? ::)

(I've since read somewhere that the WA government is no longer going to use that hotel for quarantine, wonder which hotel they will try next?)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 7:45pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:

The security companies involved in the subcontracting are getting paid $70 per man hour by the govt. to supply the staff. I have heard that in many cases that after taking a big slice they are subcontracting the work out again to other companies who are doing the dodgy stuff to increase their profit. And they all employ Indians who make good call centre workers but shouldnt be trusted with important stuff. Just bums on seats.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 3^rd, 2021 at 7:09am

Carl D wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:56pm:

After what happened in Victoria in the same situation how would another state govt. be as stupid to allow this type of thing to occur?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

Coronavirus WA: Fourth day of no COVID-19 cases from community spread paves way for lockdown to end

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-fourth-day-of-no-covid-19-cases-from-community-spread-paves-way-for-lockdowns-to-end-ng-b881787448z

Quote:

WA has recorded a fourth straight day of zero new locally-acquired cases, keeping Perth and the South West on track for an end to lockdown at 6pm tomorrow.

Fingers crossed.

And, while I'm here I have to wonder why everyone in Perth is locked down at the moment and yet there doesn't seem to have been any reduction in the flights in and out of Perth Airport since the start of the week (I can usually hear them from where I live, even more so when they use the shorter cross runway like they're doing today).

They always say that the majority of flights in and out of Perth are FIFO (Fly In, Fly Out workers) these days but I heard earlier in the week that even those had been drastically reduced due to the sudden lockdown.

I hope a lot of these planes are not carrying more COVID cases ready to cause another hotel quarantine outbreak.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 4:45pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

WA has recorded a fourth straight day of zero new locally-acquired cases, keeping Perth and the South West on track for an end to lockdown at 6pm tomorrow.

Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 4:45pm:

Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.

The masks don't worry me either. Mind you, the only times I've been out of the house since Monday was for a daily walk to the Kooyong Road IGA to get a few things and to get a bit of exercise and I'm there and back in about 40 minutes.

What does worry me though is my aunt, I'm not sure if she can deal with having to wear a mask and she hasn't been out of the house since last Saturday.

She says she's OK but I really need to take her out somewhere before too much longer. Might have to let her try a mask on indoors to see how she goes.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:20pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 4:45pm:

Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.

I was just talking to my father's carer before she went home, and she said she has a few clients who can't wear the masks.

They get anxiety attacks and end up ripping them off.

These poor old buggers want to get out of the house, but the carers aren't allowed to take them anywhere unless they wear a mask (which they refuse to do).

The only slight problem I have is when I wear sunglasses with the mask, the sunglasses continually fog up.

First world problems :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:28pm

Saw this letter in today's West Australian.

Probably something that a lot of people never think about.

We were planning to go somewhere for my aunt's 91st birthday in a few weeks time. Her birthday is on the 25th but unfortunately I'm supposed to be in Royal Perth for an operation that day so I'm hoping we can go somewhere a few days before the 25th.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2021 at 5:01pm:

Perth goes into full lock-down in three hours time, at 6pm.

Masks are now mandatory here.

You should have seen the run on toilet paper at Woolworths ;D

god you're an idiot

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe

A letter writer in yesterday's paper begs to differ.

The writer said that after seeing what happened with panic buying in the supermarkets here in Perth last Sunday afternoon just before the lockdown started it was obvious that "we are not all in this together and it was all about self preservation".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:41pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 4:45pm:

Lockdown will probably finish tomorrow, at 6pm, but I'm guessing we're gonna have to wear the masks for another fortnight.

Not that it bothers me at all - they're no problem.

Considering the amount of smoke and ash flying around, the masks are quite welcome at the moment.

81 homes lost so far :'(

Poor old McGowan's got his hands full.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Sorry to hear all that Greg. I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:41pm:

Considering the amount of smoke and ash flying around, the masks are quite welcome at the moment.

81 homes lost so far :'(

Poor old McGowan's got his hands full.

An absolute tragedy.

We had small amounts of ash falling from the sky even in Rivervale. I did also notice that the temperature didn't seem to get as high as it was supposed to yesterday which wasn't surprising with the sun being blocked by smoke all day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:01pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Sorry to hear all that Greg. I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.

Cheers John.

The surgery went well, and she survived the anaesthetic - they gave her an epidural to reduce the risk.

She's in intense pain today, however, and they can't find anything to relieve it.

Dad had a carer for four hours today, so I could get some work done. She said he slept most of the time.

I've just woken him up, taken him outside, and given him a beer (it's 4pm here).

I'll make him some dinner in a couple of hours and then go through the long slow process of getting him back in bed for the night - brushing teeth, toilet, medication, eye drops, etc.

It's like having a small child to look after again :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Sorry to hear all that Greg. I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.

good to hear it all went well for your mum. The pain will ease with time.

As for your dad, It's the cycle of life. Good onya for looking after him.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

My mother died over 10 years ago and
now my father is dying in a rest home.
As far as I know he's bedridden and in pain.
I can't even go and see him.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

My mother died over 10 years ago and
now my father is dying in a rest home.
As far as I know he's bedridden and in pain.
I can't even go and see him.

That sucks, Bobby. Sorry :'(

My Dad is 90% blind and deaf, but he can walk to the toilet and back (with a walker) and isn't in any pain or discomfort at all.

He's just bored shitless and says he's had enough.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:24pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2021 at 11:31am:

we are all in this together and cancelling non urgent hospital appoitments keeps our most vulnerable people safe

we are all in this together.

the politicians and chief health officers havent missed a pay cheque.

the big business interests are seeing their share prices boom and they are cracking the champagne with their mistresses on their yachts.

and the tourism operators, coffee shop owners, resturant owners, gym owners travel agents and hairdressors are all in it together (as in they are all in bankruptcy court together)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

It's terrible.
I heard my father's voice on the phone -
he sounds very weak and was slurring his words.
He said " I'm not long for this world "

We don't let animals suffer like this yet it happens to humans -
our own loved ones.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

ive often thought that bobby.

when i have gone to nursing homes, i have seen people who have such profound health issues and suffering, that if they were one of my farm animals and i let them suffer like that, the RSPCA would charge me with cruelty.

its quite the double standard

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

That's 100% true - it is cruelty.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by The Ungulate Who Said No on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 7:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 5:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2021 at 6:49pm:

Sorry to hear all that Greg. I know what you're going through. I hope every thing works out for you and your parents.

Glad she's doing well so far and hope the recovery continues goes well.

Just make sure she doesn't stumble across your account here. If she saw you posting photos of innocent children insinuating a link to incest, she'd die of shame of what her son has become.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by J.D. on Feb 4^th, 2021 at 9:04pm

WA has always been in isolation from the rest of the world, they are like Tasmanians.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2021 at 1:35pm

Well, it looks like we may have dodged yet another COVID-19 'bullet' here in WA although we still have some restrictions like having to wear masks for the next week.

Meanwhile, the numbnuts in Canberra look like they're getting us all lined up for the next wave of outbreaks:

Flight caps to increase, hotel quarantine system to remain - key points from today's National Cabinet meeting

https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-national-cabinet-flight-caps-to-increase-hotel-quarantine-the-same/083df31f-c98f-42d0-8223-ec31ad5f9bc8

Quote:

Flight caps for returned travellers will increase again next week to help get overseas Australians home, the prime minister confirmed today.
National Cabinet met this morning and determined the country's hotel quarantine system would remain despite recent coronavirus transmission in the facilities.

Yeah, like that was a surprise. Hope they're ready for the inevitable lawsuits if the virus gets loose here and people start dying. I know for a fact that if anything happens to my elderly aunt because of COVID-19 my name will be at the top of the list of plaintiffs.

I also found this picture when I was reading a few more articles this morning, can anyone else see the irony there?

(It was taken at Heathrow in London, btw).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 7^th, 2021 at 10:14pm

This strain was so deadly it infected ... no one. :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Feb 8^th, 2021 at 12:03am

Maybe the virus got bored to death in Dullsville .

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2021 at 5:37am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 7^th, 2021 at 10:14pm:

This strain was so deadly it infected ... no one. :D

it infected the minds of an increasingly hypochondriacal population.

and the treatment the hypochondriacal population are increasingly addicted to is the virtue signalling politician who is happy to demolish businesses and pamder to the "worried well".

the "worried well" hould be very "worried" about a trillion dollar debt and a demolition of tax paying businesses becuase that will mean

way way less services in the future for them

less health care
less aged care
less welfare.

they might not like that much
but that the consequence of hiding under your sheets for 18 months and being a quivering fraidy cat

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:00am

(Sorry for bumping this older thread but I didn't want to start a new one or put it in one for other States).

Here we go...

COVID-19 safety breach potentially exposes Perth hospital staff to virus

https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-safety-breach-exposes-perth-hospital-staff-to-virus/3551ec56-3fc7-4441-97b1-90e682c54f97

Quote:

Three staff members at the Royal Perth Hospital may have been exposed to coronavirus after a safety breach involving a service lift used by a COVID-19 patient.
It has been revealed the lift, used by a ship captain who was treated at the hospital last week, wasn't properly cordoned off, exposing the staff to the potentially deadly virus.
The captain, a man in his 60s, was flown to Perth on Friday night after being evacuated from the cruise ship, the AquaGenie.

Glad I don't have to go anywhere near Royal Perth Hospital for another 5 weeks and WTF are they doing bringing Covid infected people all the way down to Perth from a ship in Karratha? Don't they have any medical facilities up there?

I'm hoping that by this time next week Perth isn't starting another 5 day (or longer) lockdown. Idiots.

(btw, the AquaGenie isn't a cruise ship - its a cargo ship and it has now left Australian waters. Thank goodness).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:14am

Carl D wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:00am:

Jesus ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Jesus ::)

My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

Quote:

A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.

All we ever seem to hear about is reviews into procedures (always after potentially deadly stuff ups are made, just like with hotel quarantine).

Proper procedures should have been in place and enforced since the first Covid case arrived in Australia in late January last year.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:28am

Carl D wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Jesus ::)

My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

Quote:

A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.

We're too complacent here in Perth.

I've got to take both parents to RPH in the next few weeks.

Great ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:32am

Hope your parents are OK, Greg.

At least 2 of the 3 potentially infected RPH staff are fully vaccinated and the third has had the first vaccine dose and all 3 are now isolated but that isn't a guarantee that others haven't been infected, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 11:21am

Roger Cook is handling this well, just ask Mcgowan. Stop your whinging.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 12:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 5:10pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

What the h3ll is wrong with these people? She (and others like her) should be put onto the first available flight out of Australia with "Do not return" stamped on her passport.

Yes.

She is an Australian citizen so they can't do that

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 2:43pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Jesus ::)

My thoughts exactly.

And... (from the article):

Quote:

A review will now be undertaken into the hospital's procedures.

given that covid will become an endemic infection, just what level of spread is WA willing to tolerate ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 3:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

given that covid will become an endemic infection, just what level of spread is WA willing to tolerate ?

You need to ask the right people, not us.

Here you go:

https://www.premier.wa.gov.au/Ministers/Mark-McGowan/Pages/Contact.aspx

https://www.premier.wa.gov.au/Ministers/Roger-Cook/Pages/Contact.aspx

(You're welcome) :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 3:45pm

well the virus isnt going to be interested in the opinion of a beaureacrat politician.

its going to do what it wants to do.

so do you accept that in 6 months, or 1 year or 2 years, there will be community transmission and people being hospitalised and dying from covid or do you think "fortress WA" can continue indefinitely ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 6:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 3:45pm:

"Fortress WA" can continue indefinitely as far as I (and most West Australians, I suspect) am concerned. Or, at least until the Covid pandemic is over.

The only danger to our "fortress" at this stage are mistakes like this:

Another one.

Coronavirus crisis: Full review underway after second PPE breach confirmed at Royal Perth Hospital

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-full-review-underway-after-second-ppe-breach-confirmed-at-royal-perth-hospital-ng-b881850498z

Quote:

An investigation is under way after a second COVID breach occurred at Royal Perth Hospital yesterday.

A staff member caring for a COVID-positive patient removed their surgical mask before completely exiting a patient’s room.

The incident was detected immediately and the staff member was placed into self-quarantine.

Quote:

It comes as a service lift at the same hospital was not appropriately cordoned off after it was used to transport the captain of the bulk-carrier MV AquaGenie from the emergency department to the intensive care unit.

Three staff members who were not wearing PPE used the lift prior to it being cleaned.

Mr Cook said the lift should have been cordoned off and the situation was continuing to be reviewed.

I sure hope our good luck with avoiding a major Covid outbreak continues but if things like this keep happening (and with winter approaching) I have my doubts.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 8:18pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 3:45pm:

[quote]It comes as a service lift at the same hospital was not appropriately cordoned off after it was used to transport the captain of the bulk-carrier MV AquaGenie from the emergency department to the intensive care unit.

Three staff members who were not wearing PPE used the lift prior to it being cleaned.

Mr Cook said the lift should have been cordoned off and the situation was continuing to be reviewed.

I sure hope our good luck with avoiding a major Covid outbreak continues but if things like this keep happening (and with winter approaching) I have my doubts.
[/quote]

why would it ever be 'over'

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 11:07pm

I have to agree with you aqua a huge over reaction in WA they will never build up any immunity at that rate... even a lift has to be sterilised........... ::) ::) come on!!!!!

I can only guess everyone is living in fear over there.... and I am amazed they do not care about this isolation or bubble they will be living in especially waiting for this virus to wear itself out.... :D :D :D which appears to be what they are hoping for....Houston WA has a great big problem..

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 2:33am

I am currently living in WA and there is no isolation, there is the check in app at the stores but one one cares. And their economy is economy is booming. Huge dollars coming in from iron ore, they can stay isolated indefinitlely

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:00am

cods wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 11:07pm:

Living in fear? In WA?

You wouldn't even know there was a pandemic here.

Life is normal.

You have to sign in to pubs and shops with an app - that's about the only change here.

Nobody is living in fear - it's business as usual here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am

Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world
This virus which seems like it has spread to the corners of the globe incredibly quickly
I think you are living in a fantasy world

And the world will pass you by

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

its just inevitable.

a highly highly infectious respiratory virus which mutates and can spread to the corners of the globe in hours!!!!.

you cant keep a fat lethargic toad out.

you wont be hit hard, so much as have to adapt to the new norm.

community transmission

some deaths

some need for the vulnerable to isolate

lots of vaccinations

fortress WA cant keep out a toad.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

hospitalisations and deaths in texas and florida have plummeted.

back to business as usual.

they are over the pandemic in 15 months.

WA has not even begun to take their medicine.

they are going to be so far left behind , they will rue the day they foolishly thought they could hide under the bed and the tsunami would magicly spare them

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:20am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.

No. It's complacency.

I live here. I know.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:22am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

Is English not your first language?

"We're going to get hit hard one day.

"That's what I've been saying for ages."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:53am

If you get a letter from the tax office saying you are about to be audited

You can do what western Australia is doing

And throw the letter in the bottom drawer

And hope that the threat will just go away

Or you can face up to the threat

And confront it head on

Throwing that audit letter in the bottom drawer
Is making western Australia feel all smug
Because they are able to just ignore it

But that audit letter is your destiny

You can't make the threat go away by ignoring it

The problem just becomes bigger and stronger
And you become smaller and weaker

When I think about the people who are most afraid of this virus
It seems to me they are shrinking away from life
They are becoming smaller and weaker
That's not a fruitful long-term strategy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death
::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:16am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

It's OK to appropriate words when done advisedly...

In this case it betrays your unenlightened sense of fatalism...

In your cosmos, every disease or catastrophe is destined to become 'endemic', so (particularly where rational and intelligent focus are required) 'resistance is useless'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:22am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:00am:

cods wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 11:07pm:

you are avoiding the facts mate closing your borders is not normal living... it cannot be sustained ..

rhino wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 2:33am:

sorry mate I disagree no one can do that....if you only eat iron ore... maybe :-/ and even then I still say NO ONE CAN

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:02am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

North what has got into you

You appear to be channeling Gregory

Are you denying that measles and mumps and chickenpox are still endemic diseases

Aqua scooter is very much in favour of vaccinations
To reduce the number of infections

This is the case for measles and mumps and rubella and chickenpox
But are you saying they have been eradicated
Not as far as I am aware

And if we accept that there are going to be ongoing cases for the foreseeable future
Then how can you justify the concept of fortress western Australia

It makes no sense

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:05am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:02am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

I think I know your greatest inner fear... You fear that every thought that comes into your head is not immediately true... I'd bet you can't tell the difference between whether you dreamed something or read it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am

Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare :o :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:32am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 9:23am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.

He doesn't understand.

No matter how many times you explain something to him, he just ignores it and goes off on his own completely irrelevant tangent.

It's weird.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 10:58am

Not as weird as trying to construct fortress western Australia :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 1:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

you wont be hit hard, so much as have to adapt to the new norm.

community transmission

some deaths

some need for the vulnerable to isolate

lots of vaccinations [/quote[

fortress WA cant keep out a toad.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

hospitalisations and deaths in texas and florida have plummeted.

back to business as usual.

they are over the pandemic in 15 months.

WA has not even begun to take their medicine.

they are going to be so far left behind , they will rue the day they foolishly thought they could hide under the bed and the tsunami would magicly spare them

so all this has occurred with a vaccination program starting. Whats your point? The fact that WA due its geographical isolation has been more successful in being able to isolate, so what? No other place in Australia is attempting herd immunity by way of allowing community transmission and overseas experience has already shown that to be a dismal failure, the virus is now mutating in Brazil and India due to this tactic and becoming more deadly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 22^nd, 2021 at 10:14am

Two people staying at a Perth quarantine hotel have contracted the UK strain of COVID-19 from returned overseas travellers from India who were in another room.

The WA Health Department said the infections were previously reported as being acquired overseas, but genome sequencing data had since revealed the two people caught the virus at the hotel.

The guests caught the virus from an infected couple who were staying in a room opposite them at the Mercure Hotel in Perth.

Ban arrivals from India: McGowan

Quote:

WA Premier Mark McGowan's office said the returned overseas travellers who passed on the virus had arrived from India.

In a statement, Mr McGowan called for Australia to consider temporarily banning all travellers from India from entering the country.

Good idea, Mark. An even better one would be to spend some of the billions of dollars in mining royalties you're getting at the moment and (re)open and expand quarantine facilities on Rottnest Island for ALL "returned travellers", not just the ones from India.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 22^nd, 2021 at 10:24am

Carl D wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2021 at 10:14am:

Looks like quarantine in city hotels is still as dangerous as ever.

Two people catch UK coronavirus strain while in Perth hotel quarantine, sparking India ban call

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-21/two-people-contract-covid-19-while-in-perth-hotel-quarantine/100085932

[quote]
Ban arrivals from India: McGowan

[quote]WA Premier Mark McGowan's office said the returned overseas travellers who passed on the virus had arrived from India.

In a statement, Mr McGowan called for Australia to consider temporarily banning all travellers from India from entering the country.

On the right track here. I would prefer indefinite to temporary though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 7:52am

Coronavirus crisis: WA Health knew Mercure hotel was 'high-risk'

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/two-contract-covid-in-wa-hotel-quarantine-c-2655223

Quote:

There are fresh concerns over Western Australia’s hotel quarantine system after a pregnant mother and her four-year-old daughter contracted COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine.

Genomic testing has confirmed the virus spread to the pair at Perth’s Mercure Hotel from a couple who had returned from India and were staying across the corridor.

It also emerged that the government had known for weeks that the Mercure was the highest-risk of WA’s quarantine hotels due to ventilation issues.

Premier Mark McGowan on Thursday announced the Mercure would no longer accommodate returned overseas travellers.

Oh, and...

West Australian Premier concedes quarantine hotel at centre of COVID-19 transmission is ‘not one of the best’

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/west-australian-premier-concedes-quarantine-hotel-at-centre-of-covid19-transmission-is-not-one-of-the-best/news-story/bdb49cfaae1595227706ca9c3d273e41

Quote:

Authorities have begun an investigation into how the transmission occurred.

“Somehow, between two rooms that had closed doors, there has been transmission,” Mr McGowan said.

“We’re doing everything we can to make sure we test anyone who was on the floor during the relevant period to make sure there was no further transmission into the broader community.

“At this point in time, we have no indication there was further transmission. The relevant people on the floor were required to wear PPE.

“We put in place measures to keep them away from the room in question. We put in place HEPA filters which filter the air.”

Obviously, the HEPA filters are not sufficient to prevent airborne transmission of the virus in hotels.

And, weren't the airlines telling us just recently that the HEPA filters on their planes prevent the spread of Covid between passengers during the flights? Judging by the number of "returned travellers" arriving with Covid it doesn't look like the filters work too well on planes either. Especially when everyone is supposed to test negative before they board the flights to Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 8:09am

One has to laugh

Fortress western Australia

Isolation for the rest of eternity

Can't even keep out a slow moving cane toad

But think they can keep out possibly the world's most contagious airborne respiratory virus

The entire state is living in lala land ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:19am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 8:09am:

One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia

"Fortress Western Australia" has been doing just fine for the past 12 months even with the occasional stuff up with hotel quarantine, etc.

The only threat to our "fortress" (and the rest of Australia) is this never ending stream of "returned travellers" bringing Covid back with them - especially the new strains - and the continuing dangerous use of inner city hotels for quarantine.

Apart from that, Perth (and the whole of WA) is back to our pre Covid way of life. For now, at least. Mind you, apart from the one 5 day lockdown a couple of months ago we've pretty much had a 'normal' existence here since the start of the pandemic.

But, this 'normal' way of life does cause a high level of complacency amongst the population (no social distancing or using contact tracing apps or pen and paper when entering shops, etc.) which will make any Covid outbreak more difficult to control.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:40am

Carl D wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 8:09am:

One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia

I walked past the Mecure Hotel (a quarantine hotel) in the CBD this morning at 7am, and there were police in masks everywhere.

There was a 000 bus parked outside, with police cars (flashing lights on) at front and back.

Not sure what's going on there :-/

New arrivals from the airport I guess (?)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:46am

Hi, Greg.

They might be moving "high risk" quarantined people to another hotel?

Perth coronavirus quarantine hotel stops taking travellers after guests infected in their room

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/no-more-travellers-at-wa-quarantine-hotel-after-new-covid-cases/100065494

Quote:

The West Australian Premier says Perth's Mercure Hotel will not take any new returned overseas travellers after the virus was transmitted between people in quarantine who were staying in separate rooms.

Quote:

Health Minister Roger Cook said the Chief Health Officer had found all 10 hotels were suitable for quarantine, but some represented a lower risk than others.

He therefore recommended the Mercure should be used for very low-risk guests.

Mr Cook said the government was in the process of transitioning the hotel to a dedicated low-risk facility when the transmission event was detected.

Rottnest Island still seems like a good choice to me.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:54am

Carl D wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:46am:

[quote]Health Minister Roger Cook said the Chief Health Officer had found all 10 hotels were suitable for quarantine, but some represented a lower risk than others.

He therefore recommended the Mercure should be used for very low-risk guests.

Mr Cook said the government was in the process of transitioning the hotel to a dedicated low-risk facility when the transmission event was detected.

Rottnest Island still seems like a good choice to me.

[/quote]

Ah, that must be it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 11:29am

Passenger who returned to Melbourne from Perth has tested positive for COVID

A Victorian man has tested positive for COVID-19 in Melbourne after completing 14 days of quarantine at a Western Australian hotel at the centre of a coronavirus outbreak.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 12:02pm

2 Indian families next door to each other in adjacent rooms and Indian security guards. Maybe that was the issue.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 1:04pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 9:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 8:09am:

One has to laugh
Fortress western Australia

past 12 months ::) ::) ::)

get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 1:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 1:04pm:

get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe

Not wit all dat iron ore we ain't!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 4:02pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 1:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 1:04pm:

get back to me in 2024 when the rest of the world is ignoring "fortress WA" and you are a stagnant isolated catastrophe

Not wit all dat iron ore we ain't!

yeah,

that should employ 20 blokes and a dragline.

what are the rest going to do/

hide under their bed and live on twiggy forrests royalties?
how mediocre

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:12pm

We're in lockdown!

Man, there'll be some toilet paper fights at Woollies this afternoon ;D

From midnight tonight, Perth is in lockdown for three days.

The entire long weekend (we get two Anzac Day holidays - Sunday and Monday).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:21pm

I had a funny feeling this was coming, so yesterday I did all my shopping (for myself and my parents), filled up the car with petrol, and filled the wine racks, etc.

Perth and Peel plunged into three-day lockdown after quarantine hotel COVID transmission

Perth and the Peel region have been plunged into a three-day lockdown after several people contracted COVID-19 while staying in hotel quarantine.

The lockdown will begin at midnight tonight. Masks will be mandatory from 6pm, although the Premier Mark McGowan recommended people wear them immediately.

Anzac Day services around the Perth and Peel regions have been cancelled, with Mr McGowan urging people to take part in driveway dawn services instead.

I'm quite looking forward to a long-weekend of Netflix, guitar playing (and maintenance), and relaxing outside with a good book and a glass of wine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:

i would slit my wrists if i had to do that for 3 days.

i would wake up at 6 am saturday and be bored by 6.05 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:

i would slit my wrists if i had to do that for 3 days.

i would wake up at 6 am saturday and be bored by 6.05 :'( :'( :'(

It's gonna be great.

I get up at 4am most days.

I'll have plenty of time this long-weekend to catch up with a lot of stuff.

And I get out of two lunches that I didn't really want to go to :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:50pm

I am forced to live in Perth at the moment, luckily not in a dog box apartment. We went into the city today for the promise of a decent meal. What I noticed, lots of homeless, lots and lots of homeless camped in shop doorways everywhere and on the street begging and carrying on. I havent seen that many homeless anywhere since I was in SF during the GFC. The city appeared to be nearly deserted apart from the homeless, lots of businesses closed down and a lot looking like they were hanging on by a shoestring. Refuse and garbage everywhere, junkies shooting up in full view. It really was depressing. No cops around but quite a few Indian security guards patrolling the malls in groups of 3 and ignoring anti social behaviour, the guards all seemed pretty fearful. The suburbs are thriving, I think Perth city has had it though. You cant charge $15 an hour for parking for this sh1te.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:56pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:

Yep, I was in the city today and you've described it perfectly.

Unfortunately, it's like that every day.

The amount of homeless people and beggars is truly amazing.

There are two now who live in my office doorway.

London Court is up for sale at the moment - I don't think they'll get much for it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 1:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:12pm:

Well, this is uncanny... when we had the first lockdown a few months back the first I heard about it was when I read your post on this forum at the time and the same happened when I came here yesterday afternoon. :o (I've been busy trying to sort out a problem with my older PC last night and again this morning and I finally gave up).

Anyway, back to the topic. What I would like to see is all the small businesses who are losing so much money (or even their entire business) due to this latest lockdown get together and start a class action lawsuit against the Federal and/or State government then we might see how quickly they sort out this ongoing hotel quarantine fiasco.

As I've said before, I'm amazed at how quickly the Federal and State governments have set up things like Covid contact tracing apps, etc. but when it comes to setting up proper quarantine (i.e. not in city hotels) for all these "returned travellers" (and also things like helping the unemployed and homeless) they're slower than a wet week.

I know the owners of 2 small businesses, one lost $20,000 and the other $5,000 during the last 5 day lockdown and I'm pretty sure they're not too happy right now. And, they're just the "tip of the iceberg", so to speak. Also, with JobKeeper finished, there will be a lot of staff (especially casuals) who won't be getting any pay over the long weekend.

I wouldn't want to be a casual worker who has rent to pay - especially since rents have skyrocketed here after the WA rent increase/eviction moratorium finished at the end of March.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm

‘Just nuts’: Perth Mercure Hotel patient zero travelled to India for a wedding

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-update-live-perth-in-lockdown-after-hotel-outbreak-states-impose-restrictions-new-clot-cases-20210423-p57lzm.html?post=p524sl#p524sl

Quote:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

Quote:

The Victorian man, who has since returned to Melbourne, spent five days in Perth as a ‘tourist’ visiting several sites and transmitted the virus to a Kardinya receptionist who had hosted him at her home.

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan made the revelations during a press conference this afternoon, adding it was “just nuts” the federal government had allowed people to travel to high-risk countries.

“The person in the hotel the other day who was infectious had recently gone to India, who passed it onto the people across the corridor,” Mr McGowan said.

“It was not his fault that it spread across the corridor. But the fact of the matter is the Commonwealth let him go to India recently.”

Mr McGowan said Australians travelling to countries with large COVID numbers and then returning a positive test had become a growing problem. Some, he said, had travelled to Europe and Africa to attend sporting events.

“We should be dealing with that issue,” he said.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:46pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

[quote]The Victorian man, who has since returned to Melbourne, spent five days in Perth as a ‘tourist’ visiting several sites and transmitted the virus to a Kardinya receptionist who had hosted him at her home.

Quote:

"Just nuts" is probably the politest way to describe it. WTF is wrong with people? Especially the Federal government for allowing these people to travel. I'm surprised we're not overrun with Covid in Australia by now.[/quote]

Yep, crazy.

A stupid wedding has now disrupted 2 million people, and put many at risk of infection.

FFS ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 7:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:

And you bozos re-elected big girl's McGown.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 7:46pm

Perth records positive community-transmitted coronavirus case on day one of lockdown

The WA Health Department has confirmed a positive COVID test result has been returned from a person within the community on day one of Perth's snap lockdown.

The man in his 40s presented for a COVID-19 test yesterday as he had gone to one of the locations visited by the COVID-positive Victorian case.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 9:24pm

It must be everywhere by now. I saw the list of places he visited, 2 different restaurants every day plus other facilities.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 9:35pm

Frank wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:56pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2021 at 5:50pm:

And you bozos re-elected big girl's McGown.

To be honest there was no opposition, the Liberals wiped themselves out. But Mcgowan is very popular over here, particularly amongst young people, I have no idea why. But West Aussies will get what they deserve for electing him. Everything has gotten worse since he was elected, hospital system stuffed, OMCG out of control, meth problem worse, he has no solutions except knee jerk reactions and he is a blatant liar. Look at the way he covered for his old buddy Cook, what a disgrace, blatant lies, the guy thinks hes invincible and look at his ego, blatantly lying to support Cook and knows he will get away with it. Wasnt even questioned in the local media. West Aussies just arent that bright and he is representative of the population. Its obvious there has been a lot of inbreeding over here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 10:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

[quote]Premier Mark McGowan made the revelations during a press conference this afternoon, adding it was “just nuts” the federal government had allowed people to travel to high-risk countries.

“The person in the hotel the other day who was infectious had recently gone to India, who passed it onto the people across the corridor,” Mr McGowan said.

“It was not his fault that it spread across the corridor. But the fact of the matter is the Commonwealth let him go to India recently.”

Mr McGowan said Australians travelling to countries with large COVID numbers and then returning a positive test had become a growing problem. Some, he said, had travelled to Europe and Africa to attend sporting events.

“We should be dealing with that issue,” he said.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 10:53pm

This will be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of businesses judging from what I saw in Perth the other day, all entirely due to one stupid self entitled Indian. They need to publish this faukers name.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:21pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:23pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:21pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?

These people are so good at playing the race card its not funny.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:10am

On the up side, it's been wonderfully peaceful today.

Hardly any cars driving by - it's great.

Caught up with lots of repairs etc. around the house today.

Quite enjoying this long-weekend lockdown.

Feel real bad for the small businesses though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:56pm

Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan reveals new case numbers on day two of lockdown

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan-reveals-new-case-numbers-on-day-two-of-lockdown-ng-b881855615z

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan says West Australians should expect COVID restrictions to continue beyond Monday night, despite no new cases of community transmission being recorded overnight.

Mr McGowan today revealed the only new case of the virus was a returned traveller from India who remains in hotel quarantine.

Despite the encouraging news, the Premier indicated lockdown could continue beyond its scheduled end of midnight tomorrow but refused to reveal how likely it was or how long it would go on for.

I suspect we'll probably be wearing masks for the whole of next week, at least.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:10am:

It is very quiet, isn't it? I went to the Kooyong Road IGA again today and, just like yesterday, there were very few people shopping when I was there (about 10am both days).

Everyone must have fled down south before the lockdown at midnight Friday.

Took advantage of the 'quiet time' to do a bit of work on my PC, put some blue LED fans in - 2 at the top of the case and one at the rear. They were unlit originally. Also replaced the 2 white LED fans at the front with blue ones and also did a bit of tidying up with the cables, etc. (that's the worst thing about building your own PC... cable management).

I've given up with the second older PC I've also been stuffing around with the past 2 days, I suspect there's something wrong with the power supply because it has damaged 2 Samsung solid state drives over the past couple of months. I've taken the motherboard and graphics card out and put them in storage because I'm sure they're OK. The blue case fans came out and went into the PC I've worked on today (the one in the picture). I'm going the ditch the old case and suspect power supply that's still in it - I never did like that old case anyway.

I've taken the side panel off for the attached picture, it does have a window on it but it looked better for taking the picture (then I put it back on).

20210425_162506.jpg (170 KB | 21 )

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 8:33pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:56pm:

I suspect we'll probably be wearing masks for the whole of next week, at least.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:10am:

Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?

And yeah, it's nice and quiet. I'm loving it :)

I suspect we'll have to wear masks for the next week or so. No big deal.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 9:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 6:10am:

Mcgowan doesnt. hes busy defending Cook again over the mecure hotel which should not have been used,. f K up after f up after f up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 8:33pm:

Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?

Nah, not really. Apart from the occasional game of old arcade classics on the MAME emulator.

Actually, the motherboard and CPU are 4 years old. Bought in April, 2017. The 24" BenQ monitor was bought in 2015. Here's what's in the computer case right now:

Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 (Kaby Lake) CPU , 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1065 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

The graphics card, computer case and power supply (SilverStone 750W) are recent additions in the last few months. Also, the keyboard and mouse are only a few months old as well - Philips brand (yep, that Philips) bought from BigW at Belmont Forum.

Back to the topic... and the idiocy continues...

Party-goers hide behind plants as police bust house party in Mullaloo on day one of lockdown

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/party-goers-hide-behind-plants-as-police-bust-house-party-in-mullaloo-on-day-one-of-lockdown-ng-b881855881z

Quote:

A group of party-goers have taken a leaf of faith, hiding behind plants to avoid police during a bust at an illegal house party in Mullaloo last night

City travellers are continuing to ignore warnings to stay put in a bid to escape the strict coronavirus lockdown.

Just a day after Police Commissioner Chris Dawson urged people to heed isolation advice, Premier Mark McGowan revealed hundreds of travellers were still trying to flee from the restrictions.

Police at eight checkpoints, along with mobile patrols, had uncovered alarming ignorance among the 8334 vehicles which had been stopped since the lockdown came into effect at midnight on Friday.

“As of this morning, a total of 287 vehicles did not have a valid reason to leave Perth and Peel and were turned around,” Mr McGowan said.

The lockdown is for 3 days, people. Not 3 months.

Perhaps they wouldn't have been in such a rush to try and leave if they knew this was going to happen?

Quote:

A statement announcing the lockdown read: “Anyone who has travelled outside of the Perth metropolitan area and Peel region since Saturday, April 17, must wear face masks in public from 6pm tonight.”

But at a press conference on Saturday afternoon, the state government went further, saying those who had flocked to the countryside had to stay inside their holiday accommodation and could only go outside for the same four reasons people in Perth and Peel could, including one hour of exercise.

From what I read in today's Sunday Times it doesn't look like anyone was taking any notice of that with the huge crowds at the beaches and markets, etc. down south in the last 2 days. And, how would the police know who was from the Perth/Peel region and who wasn't? Unless they're checking vehicle licence plates which would probably only catch a small number of people anyway.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:06am

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 8:33pm:

Jesus, that's a serious set-up!

Do you use it for gaming?

Nah, not really. Apart from the occasional game of old arcade classics on the MAME emulator.

Actually, the motherboard and CPU are 4 years old. Bought in April, 2017. The 24" BenQ monitor was bought in 2015. Here's what's in the computer case right now:

Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 (Kaby Lake) CPU , 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1065 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

The graphics card, computer case and power supply (SilverStone 750W) are recent additions in the last few months. Also, the keyboard and mouse are only a few months old as well - Philips brand (yes, that Philips) bought from BigW at Belmont Forum.

Back to the topic... and the idiocy continues...

Party-goers hide behind plants as police bust house party in Mullaloo on day one of lockdown

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/party-goers-hide-behind-plants-as-police-bust-house-party-in-mullaloo-on-day-one-of-lockdown-ng-b881855881z

Quote:

A group of party-goers have taken a leaf of faith, hiding behind plants to avoid police during a bust at an illegal house party in Mullaloo last night

Some people never learn (wish I had a dollar for every time this has been said since the start of the pandemic).

And...

Coronavirus WA: Hundreds of city motorists caught trying to leave at police border checkpoints

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-hundreds-of-city-motorists-caught-trying-to-leave-at-police-border-checkpoints-ng-b881855842z

[quote]City travellers are continuing to ignore warnings to stay put in a bid to escape the strict coronavirus lockdown.

Just a day after Police Commissioner Chris Dawson urged people to heed isolation advice, Premier Mark McGowan revealed hundreds of travellers were still trying to flee from the restrictions.

Police at eight checkpoints, along with mobile patrols, had uncovered alarming ignorance among the 8334 vehicles which had been stopped since the lockdown came into effect at midnight on Friday.

“As of this morning, a total of 287 vehicles did not have a valid reason to leave Perth and Peel and were turned around,” Mr McGowan said.

The lockdown is for 3 days, people. Not 3 months.

Perhaps they wouldn't have been in such a rush to try and leave if they knew this was going to happen?

Quote:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:46am

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.

Good.

BIG fines, I hope.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:46am:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.

Good.

BIG fines, I hope.

BIG fine (and prison time) for this idiot, I'm hoping.

Man pulls knife on WA police officers after mask request outside Nollamara supermarket

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/man-pulls-knife-on-wa-police-officers-after-mask-request-outside-nollamara-supermarket-20210425-p57m7y.html

Quote:

A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.

Quote:

Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.

Good to see. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to sue the police for injury/stress/whatever. One thing's for sure - there's very little chance of him suffering brain damage (he'd need a brain for that).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 11:02am

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:46am:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.

Good.

BIG fines, I hope.

A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.

[quote]Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 1:12pm

rhino wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:23pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:21pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 6:01pm:

A man believed to be the patient zero of the Mercure Hotel cluster had recently returned to Perth from attending a wedding in India.

That REALLY bugs me.
How can that happen ?
I was not allowed to travel to NZ to see my father who was dying.
The Aust Govt said no to my application to travel to NZ.

So how can he travel to india ?

These people are so good at playing the race card its not funny.

We taught them, we encourage them. They are just taking advantage of the West's loss of cultural confidence.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

Gladys had to deal with a much bigger outbreak in the northern beaches and she didnt lock down the entire city.

she has more courage then those living in "fortress WA" ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 11:02am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:46am:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:06am:

The cops were active in Scarborough this morning. I saw 2 people apparently getting fined for not wearing masks.

Good.

BIG fines, I hope.

A 55-year-old man has been charged after police said he threatened them with a knife after refusing an order to wear a mask outside a northern suburbs supermarket on Saturday.

[quote]Police deployed a Taser on him to help protect members of the public nearby after more refusals.

Jesus Christ!

What the hell is wrong with these people? :o[/quote]Mcgowan has created the biggest meth addiction and mental health crisis on the planet per capita and you have to ask this? Didnt we discuss the city full of out of control meth junkies in the CBD the other day? Whats your mate doing other than defending the pathological liar Cook? You should have voted for the work experience kid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Gladys had to deal with a much bigger outbreak in the northern beaches and she didnt lock down the entire city.

she has more courage then those living in "fortress WA" ::) ::) ::)

Its a sh1thole. Homeless and the mentally ill with no facilities literally everywhere, camping on the beaches, central CBD, parks, family play areas. Homeless tents and their used syringes and their rubbish everywhere.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:42pm

Coronavirus crisis: Perth and Peel lockdown to end at midnight tonight as planned

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-perth-and-peel-lockdown-to-end-at-midnight-tonight-as-planned-ng-b881856431z

Quote:

WA has recorded no new cases of coronavirus overnight, meaning the snap lockdown will end at midnight tonight as scheduled.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said he wanted to thank everyone for their patience and understanding over the past three days.

“I wish we didn’t have to go into lockdown, but it was necessary and it has worked,” he said.

Some restrictions will still be in place despite the lockdown ending.

“Interim restrictions will come into force from midnight tonight allowing us to take a stepped-down approach after the three-day lockdown,” Mr McGowan said.

Quote:

The interim restrictions will be in place from 12.01am Tuesday morning until 12.01am Saturday morning.

From tomorrow, people in Perth and Peel will be free to leave their homes. Masks will remain mandatory indoors, outdoors and on public transport.

That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:44pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:

[quote]The interim restrictions will be in place from 12.01am Tuesday morning until 12.01am Saturday morning.

From tomorrow, people in Perth and Peel will be free to leave their homes. Masks will remain mandatory indoors, outdoors and on public transport.

That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.[/quote]

I'll be working from home all this week, so all good.

And masks don't worry me at all.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

I'll be working from home all this week, so all good.

And masks don't worry me at all.

Yep, masks are OK with me as well. Even my 91 year old aunt didn't mind wearing them during the last lockdown a few months back. She'll be happy to get out of the house tomorrow, she hasn't been out since last Wednesday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:30pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:

That's a relief... until the next hotel quarantine stuff up, at least.[/quote]

hang on a minute.

covid is going to be with us FOREVER.

is fortress WA really going to keep hotel quarantine going FOREVER.

that sounds insane.

at some point, you must "face your destiny"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

at some point, you must "face your destiny"

What on earth are you going on about now?

If our "destiny" is to be overrun with Covid like so many other countries (especially India at the moment) it will only be because of the endless stream of "returned travellers" bringing the virus back to Australia with them and the "not fit for purpose" city hotel quarantine system that has failed so dismally up until now.

And, I strongly suspect "Fortress WA" is going to keep hotel quarantine (or preferably something better) going for as long as it takes to try and keep everyone safe, hopefully until everyone's vaccinated or the virus "burns itself out" with any luck.

Time for me to go (tea time). Someone else can play with you now or you can just carry on and play with yourself. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:33pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

at some point, you must "face your destiny"

What on earth are you going on about now?

I don't think even he knows.

He's just an ignorant contrarian who tries to stir up trouble.

Ignore the useless prick.

He's just not worth it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

at some point, you must "face your destiny"

What on earth are you going on about now?

I don't think even he knows.

He's just an ignorant contrarian who tries to stir up trouble.

Ignore the useless prick.

He's just not worth it.

Yeah, Carl, go with gweggowry turd, he's from Perth too. He'll tell you all about his special subjects of rape and sodomy and irrational fear of white supremacist terrorism. You can also meet his dad, Bbwian, he's also in Perth. And his cousin, philperth. It's all happenin' in Perf. Go wiv it. Intellectual capital. Take your plunger.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:19pm

Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:35am

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:19pm:

Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.

no they arent.

peccas position is that

"i enjoy having a chardonay in the back yard and reading a book. i dont like the footy.
i WONT be getting the vaccine."

therefore, the premier should stop all overseas visitors. if young people want to travel or play sport or study overseas, thats tough titties. i must be protected (despite the fact i wont man up and be vaccinated) and if every other citizen of WA follows my lead, thats just dandy.
we can all stay at home and the federal government can mail us cheques forever and young people can stay in perth also forver because they should learn to appreciate the life that i have and join me sipping chardonay alone at home and posting my ideology on the internet.

if you have kids or grandkids with plans to move out of WA with a "spirit of adventure", then you should be appalled by the selfish attitude of people like pecca.

the least they could do is do their bit and get vaccinated and stop hiding under the skirts of the girly man premier

hopeless, mediocre and totally self centred

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:17am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:35am:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 10:19pm:

Its true that Perth is an intellectual vacuum, but then so are most of Aquas posts.

Careful, scoot, that you're not projecting fear of your own lack of intellectual prowess and your predisposition towards expressing schadenfreude.

'When a shepherd goes to kill a wolf, and takes his dog to see the sport, he should take care to avoid mistakes. The dog has certain relationships to the wolf the shepherd may have forgotten'.

You devoted a lot of posts here to trivialising the virus's effect... Now you're making the claim that we should all get vaccinated as a civic duty (or, in your speak: 'man up and be vaccinated'... I guess you don't mean women aren't bound by your new-found sense of civic duty!)' implying that you were hopelessly wrong about its trivialisation.

Your 'dog' (if you will) is your inability to recognise your own hypocrisy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am

Incorrect North incorrect

Whilst I still consider the virus a non species ending event
And something which should never have been catastrophized

The major devastation of the virus
Is due to the extreme overreaction of those in authority
Who have created ridiculous concepts such as fortress western Australia

We are now in the situation where if we are going to rescue young people
And allow them to have a decent future
We are all going to have to man up and get vaccinated

Not to save us from the devastating effect of a mild respiratory virus

But to save us from the devastating effect of having to continue with this nonsense of devoting every thought breath word and action to covid.

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

We didn't and instead we have convinced people that the end of the world is upon us
Having gone down that ridiculous rabbit hole
The only way out is for everyone to now become vaccinated

So we have to do this for future generations

Unless you think future generations should never travel because they might infect Gregory and Carl upon their return

How ugly

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:31am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

The main issue with this virus is its apparent ability to rapidly mutate into more infectious and more deadly variants.

I assume your reference to 'those in authority' include virologists, medics and clinicians in general - i.e. professionals who have spent their respective entire careers studying pathogens and/or working within the health industry.

Are you actually qualified to contradict their opinion?

Without denigration, why do you think the nation should take the advice of a barely educated farmer over the advice of these professionals?

Should, say, Indians stop worrying and get back to worshipping in their millions in confined places?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:44am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.

aquascoot has spent the last 12 months telling everyone that C19 is a hoax, and that the numbers have been made up by the media and politicians, but now he wants to push old people out of the queue so that he can be the first to get vaccinated.

What a smacking idiot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

Its been unusually warm in Perth for April which also may have helped to avoid a Covid outbreak but the weather changes at the end of this week with some rain and much cooler temperatures forecast.

Australia is expected to ban ALL flights from India this week. Well, that's a start, at least. Should have been done months ago along with bans from other "high risk" countries until the hotel quarantine fiasco (Australia wide) is sorted out.

Meanwhile, Scotty from Marketing has a message for all of us:

PM warns social media can be 'used by the evil one', in speech to Christian conference

https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-pentecostal-christian-speech-social-media-identity-politics/6ed20b11-689e-4d84-b593-bf6b26cdc11b

Quote:

Identity politics is an "evil thing" threatening to steal the hope and courage of Australia's young people and social media can be "used by the evil one", the Prime Minister has warned in a speech revealing more about his pentecostal faith.
Scott Morrison, in a recent speech at a Christian conference, called on his fellow attendees to "raise up the spiritual weapons" against the growing tendency and told them the country needed them.

"The Evil One"? Is that Mark McGowan? Anthony Albanese? Anyone who doesn't agree with him? :D ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:07am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

Oh, it'll happen again alright.

Thanks to smacking idiots who refuse to wear masks, social distance, and obey lock-down orders.

Don't throw your masks away yet.

I have a good supply in my car, at work, and at home - we'll be needing them again in the not too distant future (as well as for the rest of this week).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:07am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

PM warns social media can be 'used by the evil one', in speech to Christian conference

"The Evil One"? Is that Mark McGowan? Anthony Albanese? Anyone who doesn't agree with him?

Yes, once a politician evokes religious imagery via his (feigned or sincere) religiosity (particularly evoking god(s)/good over demon(s)/evil), you know it's time to watch out...

He risks putting himself in the service of 'evil' to justify his alarm.

He's also a politician and is bound to sometimes choose the best of the worst options... Like defending the behavior of powerful colleagues to whom he owes a debt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.

I think the smacking idiot
Is someone such as yourself
Who demands that young people never be allowed to have a decent life
But also paradoxically demands the right not to be vaccinated
Thereby meaning that the only way to keep a fool such as yourself safe
Is for the younger generations to give up their liberties
So you can sit in your backyard sipping your Chardonnay in safety

How very very selfish
You should be ashamed of yourself

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:40am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

As I pointed out to Bobby in my excellent Post
Even with covod ravaging the Indian society
The number of people dying every day in India from cardiovascular disease
Is still three times the number of people dying from covert

It is far from a species ending event

As for people being vaccinated

Isn't that what all the cowards hiding under their bed were screaming about for the last 12 months
And now that the vaccine is available
They don't want to have it because they prefer to stay at home and sit there Chardonnay and read their books
And they don't give a stuff about people who want a resume an adventurous life

Are the Fremantle Dockers and West Australian eagles allowed to travel
Can young people go and enjoy a spectacle

If you speak to the old farts
They are happy to cancel such events in perpetuity
And they don't want to make the small sacrifice of having a vaccine so that people can start having some fun
They just want the premier to lock the stayed up forever

If not forever North then tell me
If everyone takes the Gregory peccary line and does not get vaccinated
When exactly do you think western Australia will be open for business

Reprehensible hypocritical people

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:45am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.

No, the idiot is definitely you.

You spent 12 months telling everyone it's a hoax, and that the numbers are lies made up by the media and politicians, and now you're pushing over old people to get at the front of the vaccination queue.

How very selfish and hypocritical - you should be ashamed of yourself.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:03am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

Urgent media conference being held at 9am this morning (in one hour).

Doesn't sound good.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:16am:

We should have just said this is going to be a bad flu season

Try telling that to places like the US, the UK, Italy and now India. They've had a really bad flu season. Two in a row, actually.

If the only way that young children can get to go and watch the Fremantle Dockers play is that I have to make the Noble sacrifice of having a vaccine
Then I shall make the Noble sacrifice of having a vaccine
Because unlike you
I care about the mental health of young people

As for knocking over old people in a desperate attempt to get the vaccine
You really have lost the plot
I would say the major problem for the government now would be convincing people to have the vaccine
So that young people can again lead a life of freedom

Selfish people like you are too cowardly to have it
I am more than happy to have it despite the fact I don't think the the virus is a problem
If it'll put a smile on a teenager's face

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year
Fortress western Australia will still be in place
Keeping selfish old people such as Gregory safe

Mediocre hypocritical reprehensible

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:10am

Spends 12 months saying it's a hoax, and that the numbers are lies made up be the media and politicians.

Nek minnit!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:40am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year

Finally, some good news.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:44am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year
e

You say that like its a bad thing. Also want to do schoolies? Stay in WA

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:48am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:40am:

Your excellent post? What... You're an 80's teen film star now?

Anyway, 'your excellency', you're not qualified to speak on the virulence of pathogens or actions we need to take, anymore than a teenage barista who's never stepped foot on a farm is qualified to give you advice on animal husbandry.... Even if they think they might have a thing for sheep.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

And also the ones who STILL don't use the SafeWA app or a pen and paper register when shopping, etc.

Coronavirus WA: Many West Australians not using SafeWA app and QR codes while out shopping during lockdown

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-many-west-australians-not-using-safewa-app-and-qr-codes-while-out-shopping-during-lockdown-ng-b881856425z

Yes, I've seen it myself while out shopping the past few days. Been happening since it became 'compulsory' a few months back.

(Its a subscriber only article but the story is obvious, I'll probably read it when I get today's West later on.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

I'm usually the only one who signs in with the app when I go to Woollies etc.

Hardly anyone uses the hand sanitiser, cleans the basket handles, or signs in.

Bastards!

News conference in a few minutes.

(Four new cases in quarantine hotels overnight)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year

Finally, some good news.

Oh, yes... and I suspect the people down south (especially in places like Margaret River) have had enough after this past long weekend with seemingly half of Perth's population fleeing down there to escape the lockdown.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:03am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:40am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

I suppose there will be no schoolies for the young people of western Australia this year

Finally, some good news.

I can't believe he thinks cancelling schoolies is a bad thing ::)
So many less unwanted teenage pregnancies, for a start.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:38am

WA Premier fears COVID explosion in hotel quarantine after 78 of 79 arrivals on plane are from India

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/wa-premier-fears-covid-explosion-in-hotel-quarantine-after-78-of-79-arrivals-on-plane-are-from-india-c-2696029

Quote:

Western Australia has reported no new local coronavirus cases on the first day following the lifting of a snap lockdown.

However, there were four cases in hotel quarantine and a fifth under investigation.

All five of those returned travellers were in COVID-plagued India and arrived in Perth on a flight from Kuala Lumpur.

Premier Mark McGowan on Tuesday said emergency health meetings on Tuesday morning revealed 78 of 79 passengers on the flight had been in India.

WTF???? All these people STILL arriving from India? We're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic FFS!!

Quote:

He fears this will place a significant strain on the hotel quarantine system.

Understatement of the year!!!

Just a matter of time before there's another outbreak and we're back in lockdown... and, it'll probably be longer than 3 days this time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by ChrisP on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:42am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:38am:

WTF???? All these people STILL arriving from India? We're in the middle of a steadily worsening pandemic FFS!!

[quote]He fears this will place a significant strain on the hotel quarantine system.

Understatement of the year!!!

Just a matter of time before there's another outbreak and we're back in lockdown... and, it'll probably be longer than 3 days this time.[/quote]

It is not going away anytime soon. Get used to it!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Well, it looks like we've dodged another Covid bullet here in Perth but I'm sure it won't be long before our luck runs out, especially with winter almost here.

No need to sign in with app at individual shops if you already did at at the shopping centre, thats why. I have observed that most are using the app. Maybe they do it different in Vic park, high amount of Indians and Chinese so they are probably arrogant about it. would not surprise me if these people are hoping to deliberately spread it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:47am

ChrisP wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:42am:

It is not going away anytime soon. Get used to it!

No, it won't. Not when they keep flying thousands of potentially infected people into the country every week... especially from places like India at the moment.

This guy had the right idea back in December.

Fully close the international borders – with no exceptions

https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/fully-close-the-international-borders-with-no-exceptions-20201220-p56p3j

Quote:

With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.

Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by ChrisP on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:55am

Perhaps you should blame this bloke? Isn't he advising the Government?

https://www.health.gov.au/about-us/who-we-are/leadership

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 12:50pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:47am:

ChrisP wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:42am:

It is not going away anytime soon. Get used to it!

With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.

Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.

um

maybe you ignoramuses want to think about things like global supply chains when you start "shreiking" about closing all borders ::) ::).

if we cant import all the things you lazy chodes refuse to make then you might have to go without your 'entitled standard of living"

its truly pathetic that cowardly chodes think the solution is to build a wall around australia and then its problem solved.

1/2 the australian population have family overseas.
and calling for the cessation of allowing ex pats back home?
what if YOUR kid was studying at oxford.

this "i'm alright jack" attitude is woeful.

and for the people who screeched about their safety to now not want to roll up their sleeves (which would appear the only way back to normality) is incomprehensible to anyone who isnt a recluse.

as for peccas comments that young people should not get to go to schoolies as a right of passage, play interstate sport, seek jobs in sydney and melbourne or overseas and then return home to loved ones at any time they please...it merely shows the selfishness of some australians.

the response to covid has brought out the very worst in the selfish chode

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 1:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:47am:

ChrisP wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:42am:

It is not going away anytime soon. Get used to it!

With the benefit of hindsight, we should have bitten the bullet back in March (2020) and closed the national border completely to international travellers.

Pigs will probably fly before that ever happens, especially with the clowns we have running the show in this country.

We'll build a wall, and India will pay for it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 4:28pm

Well that was interesting.
Landed in Coolangatta airport this morning, walking out towards doors that lead to luggage pick up and vehicle pick up area, and what do I see.... about 12 police, standing before exit, all radioed up, visible guns in holsters, and I’m thinking wow, who’s this welcoming committee for?
I asked a security guard watching over car pickup/drop off area, who the police are greeting.
He said..... people from Perth!
Oh and BTW, the plane I’m in from Melbourne all wore masks, except for the hostesses.
And these police had no masks on either.
Just as observation.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 4:46pm

what a dogs breakfast LOLS.

if ever there was a need for a focused strong unshakeable military type response it is to this debacle.

the CCP is now back to full production. (strong leadership and strategic implementation)

the virus is demolished.

the CCP is also currently exploring sources of iron ore in south africa, brazil and chile.

soon they will say bye bye to WA and the fine citizens of perth can starve behind their walls ,

no courage, no jobs, no income, no purpose.

except to survive

surviving not thriving

coping mentality.

just trying to "cope' with this harsh world.

its woeful

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 4:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 4:46pm:

You know nothing of where the CSNSP is at. They release nothing that is detrimental to their own narrative...

And what does get out... They hunt down the sources and bash them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:44pm

so are you telling me that if there were mass burials , the american satelites wouldnt be having a field day.

and they wouldnt notice that the high speed trains werent rolling around the country in full numbers.

face it north, china whipped covids ass because they are disciplined and pull together, something our moronic states will never do.

didnt you read LOLS statement about cops from qld ready to arrest people from perth.

hopeless and inept

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:44pm:

You don't seriously believe the CSNSP didn't just bolt in their homes people with the virus to die (the ones they hadn't bulldozed) and corralled the rest into (what looked like) dog boxes?

You know very little of totalitarian capacity for stage-managing a state display... Leni Riefenstahl would turn in her grave...

Where do you think Xi Jinpig is getting his ideas from?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:03pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 5:44pm:

will you accept the Wall st journal as credible

BEIJING—China’s economy surged 18.3% in the first quarter from a year earlier, a record rate of growth that reflected the recovery from a deep coronavirus-induced trough in early 2020 and the continued momentum of the world’s second largest economy.

The rate of gross domestic product growth in the first three months of 2021 was sharply higher than the 6.5% year-over-year growth recorded in the final quarter of 2020, though it fell short of the 19.2% growth expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal.

Analysts had anticipated GDP growth in the first three months of the year to jump sharply when compared with the year-earlier period, when the Chinese economy suffered a historic 6.8% contraction as the coronavirus’ initial emergence forced Beijing to shut down large swaths of the country.

In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-economy-grows-more-than-18-in-first-quarter-11618539141

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

I think the key takeaway here is: China (read CSNSP) has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more...

The CSNSP isn't reporting credible virus death rates any more... No one's questioning them any more because there's no point... The CSNSP will veer off into a rant about 'racism' and send its 50 cent army to do what its does best... fling their faeces across social media.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:21pm

Makes it easier when you can run the whole charade at a loss and recoup the money by confiscating it from Chinese billionaires because they're 'causing arguments and disrupting the social order'.

Nothing the CSNSP does it legit, free or out of good will...

But appearances are everything...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

1/2 the australian population have family overseas.
and calling for the cessation of allowing ex pats back home?
what if YOUR kid was studying at oxford.

“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” - Mr. Spock (Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan).

In our current situation the many is the 25 million people living in Australia who I'm sure would wish to remain Covid free and the few is the 35,000+ expats trying to get back here (bringing Covid with them in a lot of cases).

If you'd bothered to read the link I posted earlier you'd see that the writer of the article says the same thing.

Quote:

These consequences are many multiples of the pain and suffering faced by international travellers stranded overseas and desperate to return to Australia who will suffer as a result of this policy.

This is, however, a classic case of accepting the pain of a few to protect the wellbeing of the many.

Some may accuse me of being heartless and cruel for this policy advocacy, to which I would respond that I have a daughter in London and a son in Melbourne who I have not seen for almost a year.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 8:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

In recent weeks, China has reported economic indicators showing growth of 30% or more from a year earlier.

Heres what you dont know, the Chinese government sets GDP targets every year, these targets are met with borrowed money. Governers have been known to be executed for not meeting targets, this has resulted in a large number of useless projects including the notorious and well documented empty cities. Any economy can meet GDP targets with borrowed money, this is exactly the method Trump used, borrow more money, the economy goes gangbusters and all is well, only its not. Are you a ware of Chinas debt level?
Quote:

otal Chinese debt across all sectors (household, government, and corporate) rose to 318 percent of the GDP in the first quarter of 2020, according to the Institute of International Finance. And based on early signs, Beijing seems open to fiscal policies to keep China’s economy afloat that will balloon the national debt even more.

Yet, some debt categories are seeing breathtaking growth. For instance, the South China Morning Post reports that consumer debt has experienced and, today, is “among the fastest-growing segment of overall debt, particularly in the form of mortgage and consumer loans.” Household debt increased to 57.7 percent of China’s GDP in the first quarter of 2020, according to the National Institution for Finance and Development. Meanwhile, China’s external debt grew to $2.09 trillion over the first quarter of 2020.

They are actually in serious trouble if they dont keep expanding their markets, basically a week away from starvation if the house of cards collapses. They cant keep duplicating infrastructure on borrowed money to meet GDP targets, that is insane and is doomed to failure

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 9:12am

While we had (seemingly) half of the Perth/Peel population fleeing to our south west during the 3 day lockdown someone managed to travel a bit further.

Coronavirus crisis: Perth man faces fine or jail after ‘fleeing WA lockdown for New Zealand’

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-perth-man-faces-fine-or-jail-after-fleeing-wa-lockdown-for-new-zealand-ng-b881858631z

Quote:

The West Aussie accused of fleeing Perth’s COVID-19 lockdown by flying to New Zealand faces a significant financial penalty - or jail time.

Authorities in NZ say the man made use of the trans-Tasman bubble to fly quarantine-free into Auckland via Sydney on Monday, the final day of Perth and Peel’s long weekend lockdown.

The travel appears to breach the conditions of Western Australia's lockdown and the trans-Tasman travel regime introduced last week.

Hopefully both.

How on earth did he manage to get onto the plane in Perth to start with seeing as we were supposed to be having a 3 day lockdown?

(Perhaps we should also be asking "why was a plane flying passengers from Perth to Auckland during Perth/Peel's 3 day lockdown?")

Coronavirus crisis: NZ investigates Perth lockdown breach

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/nz-investigates-perth-lockdown-breach-c-2696245

Quote:

The New Zealand government is investigating a person who skipped Perth’s COVID-19 lockdown to fly to Auckland.

The person made use of the trans-Tasman bubble on Monday to fly quarantine-free into Auckland and on to Northland, where he is now self-isolating.

NZ paused travel from Western Australia in light of the three-day lockdown from Saturday to Monday.

How many people are (still) not doing their jobs properly to allow things like this to happen? I also have to wonder how many might have known this guy wasn't supposed to be flying from Perth to Auckland but the "not my job/problem syndrome" strikes again?

No wonder we keep having restrictions and lockdowns.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 12:32pm

And, on a lighter note... the entire Perth area was smothered in smoke again yesterday and this morning.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/perth-blanketed-by-smoke-after-controlled-burn-bushfire/news-story/6512db422a81bea85e93bebe03f367da

Quote:

Parts of Western Australia are waking up to air quality as bad as some Indian cities on Thursday, and health authorities are warning residents to avoid exertion as smoke blankets the region.

The thick smoke appeared on Wednesday as the result of controlled back burning and affected Perth’s CBD and parts of the southwest.

Came across this little 'gem' just now:

https://twitter.com/BellTowerTimes/status/1387274649600348163

Quote:

BREAKING: "todays smoke isn't real, it's just 5G vapours released by the Government to coerce citizens into wearing masks", reckons guy who watches too much YouTube

:D :D :D

The "guy who watches too much YouTube" wouldn't be anyone from this forum, by any chance? ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 1:13pm

Just heard on the news that a woman in the Perth CBD in her 50s refused two requests from police to wear a mask, and ultimately threw it back in their face.

She's now in custody, and will remain behind bars until her court hearing in June.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:40pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP = 47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 5:34pm

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

is that government debt or bank debt.

remember that debt in australia is 97 % debt generated by the banks creating money out of thin air to finance

property speculation and consumer spending (neither of which add to productivity).

chinese debt is government debt targeted at productive businesses .
thus it adds to productivity.

there is a reason that china is the worlds manufacturing hub and melbourne and sydeny are now 2 of the the top 3 most expensive cities to buy property in the world.

japan was just like that (before it began 30 years of stagflation)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 5:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 5:34pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

yeah, thought you couldnt understand it, basic economics.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:32pm

i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds :D :D :D.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:33pm

I love watching aqua and rhino go at it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

I love watching aqua and rhino go at it.

Is that when you arent driving around drunk? Does the following remind you of anyone?

Quote:

Chronic Severe Alcoholics
Most likely what a person pictures when the term alcoholic is used, the chronic severe alcoholic subtype only accounts for about 9 percent of the entire US alcoholic population. A chronic severe alcoholic likely started drinking and struggling with alcohol-related issues and problematic drinking at a young age and is currently middle-aged. This subtype also battles antisocial personality disorder at high rates and regularly has issues with the law and therefore criminal or legal troubles as well.

Alcohol is often implicated in exacerbating aggression, and the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence (NCADD) publishes that 40 percent of all violent crimes cite alcohol as a contributing factor. Chronic severe alcoholics suffer from psychiatric disorders more often than other subtypes of alcoholics, including bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety disorders.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 8:51pm

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

I love watching aqua and rhino go at it.

Is that when you arent driving around drunk? Does the following remind you of anyone?

Quote:

pecca? Do any of those personality characteristics remind you of anyone?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:01am

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 5:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 5:34pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 4:40pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

yeah, thought you couldnt understand it, basic economics.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:41am

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?

well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.

but you miss the point.

all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.

the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,

the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government :o :o :o,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 10:33am

Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased restrictions for Perth including masks and derby crowd

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan-announces-eased-restrictions-for-perth-including-masks-and-derby-crowd-ng-b881859958z

Quote:

Perth and Peel residents will be forced to continue wearing masks indoors for another week but a crowd of 45,000 will be permitted at Sunday’s western derby as post-lockdown restrictions are wound back from midnight tomorrow.

Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 10:56am

Yes Karl everyone should give up football
Travel
Work
Tourism
Visiting relatives in other states
Visiting relatives overseas
Working in other states
Working overseas
Studying in other states
Studying overseas
Importing critical infrastructure from overseas
Exporting overseas
Importing essential workers from overseas

They should all be done indefinitely and for all time
So that Carl and Gregory can remain safe under their beds
Risking nothing
Doing nothing
Producing nothing
And achieving nothing ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:09am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 10:56am:

No... they should all be done until the pandemic is under control which won't be for some time when you look at the situation overseas plus the steadily increasing number of infected "returned travellers" arriving every week and the "not fit for purpose" city hotel quarantine that's still being used.

A letter writer in yesterday's paper said that the easiest way to remove the Covid risk to Australia is to stop all overseas arrivals and he also believes a large number of them only want to come back here because its the safer option. Which is also something that I (and many other people I've spoken to lately) believe to be true.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Neferti on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:56am

If CoVid doesn't kill you the jab will! ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 12:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:41am:

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?

well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.

So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

Quote:

but you miss the point.

all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.

the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,

the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government :o :o :o,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt

wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 12:50pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 12:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:41am:

rhino wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?

well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.

So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

Quote:

but you miss the point.

No my roundup drinking friend, you miss the point, the Chinese are building empty cities with borrowed money for no other reason than to boost their GDP. And not just cities, they are duplicating unneeded infrastructure, all on borrowed money. That is not wealth creation

[quote]
all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.

the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,

the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government :o :o :o,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt

wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.
[/quote]

could you outline which bits are complete nonsense or are you just awestruck by my excellent arguement and left speechless by your ignorance ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 10:33am:

Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? ::)

Ah, here we go. Today's West Australian.

"masks to remain amid other restrictions"

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

I've also noticed a shortage of newspapers the past 2 days at our local IGA and the newsagent close by even at 11am.

Maybe everyone's buying them to read The Gospel According To Saint Mark (McGowan)?

"Thou shalt wear thy masks for at least one more week." ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

And religion

Spot

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

being willing to compete and put your body on the line.

it is the complete opposite of the girly man "safe space" of the trembling chode who wants the authorities to "keep me comfortable "

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 6:18pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.

Excellent point

It's also about learning to incorporate aggression into a competitive spirit

The intellectual who does not play sport tries to repress that aggression
And then it usually spills out as bitterness

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 6:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 5:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.

Dunno... Was Einstein bitter?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 6:32pm

Stephen Hawking was so bitter he lived 60 years longer than he should of.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 7:14pm

hawking had to overcome great adversity
be resilient
deal with physical set backs
keep pushing forward despite his body being spent

in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 7:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.

Yes. he did.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 8:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

hawking had to overcome great adversity
be resilient
deal with physical set backs
keep pushing forward despite his body being spent

in many ways, he had the spirit of the elite athlete.

But he didnt play sport. You claimed

Quote:

The intellectual who does not play sport tries to repress that aggression
And then it usually spills out as bitterness

Any evidence of this at all or just another bullsh1t Aquascoot claim based on you knowing nothing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:39pm

Overseas Australians could face jail for trying to come home

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-india-travel-loophole-qatar-to-be-closed-federal-government/5cd48d9d-86e2-4c7e-880c-b2ca0bf51cc5

Quote:

For the first time in history, the Australian government could make it illegal for Australian citizens in other countries to return home.

Nine News understands the Federal Government is considering invoking sweeping powers under the Biosecurity Act, which would mean from as early as midnight tomorrow, it would be a crime for anyone to return to Australia if they have been in a high-risk country 14 days prior to arriving.

The act empowers Health Minister Greg Hunt to do whatever is necessary to stop the spread of a listed disease.

Quote:

Penalties include five years jail or a $66,000 fine.

The move would come into effect days after two people circumvented travel bans from India, returning to Australia via Doha in a loophole that has since been closed.

With over 9000 Australians in India, the Federal Government has indicated they will restart repatriation flights as soon as they can, but with coronavirus rampant in India, that could be months away.

Well, this is an interesting development. But, unless something is done about the problem of continuing outbreaks from hotel quarantine and the increasing number of infected "returned travellers", especially from India, it probably had to happen eventually.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:44pm

Probably a good idea anyway, theres enough Indians here already.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm

I have no issue with being germaphobic about various diseases. But, if you isolate the vulnerable to disease, and practice good hygiene and social distancing practices, you should be able to avoid excessive transmissions of viruses.

Trying to make it illegal to allow citizens to come home from overseas comes down to be a human rights violation. Two weeks quarantine and testing should be the only other requirement that new/returned arrivals should be subjected, on top of the practices they are required to do now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:05am

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm:

There's already legal action in progress from a group of stranded Australians.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/stranded-australians-have-filed-legal-action-with-the-un-against-the-morrison-government

We'll probably be seeing more of this if these latest changes go ahead.

But, from what I've read somewhere recently, the Federal government will have 6 months to respond to any legal action of this nature and even if a ruling is made by the United Nations’ Human Rights Committee the government doesn't have to abide by it anyway (i.e. they can just ignore it).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:16am

People were told to come home. Then people were told not to go. They were told this a number of times, this message was widely broadcast everywhere, including social media. Half of Australians overseas left in the last few months, it doesnt matter they were granted an exemption, they wanted the exemption which we now know was granted in many cases for frivolous reasons. These people applied for the exemption to travel thinking they were somehow above everyone else. F em.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:29am

A letter writer in the paper the other day had an interesting idea since a lot of people are also complaining that they can't travel overseas at the moment.

He said that people should be allowed to leave Australia right now for any reason at all (since they don't pose a Covid threat by leaving) BUT on the understanding that they will go to the 'back of the queue' if they wish to return with no guarantee they will even get a flight back at all for the foreseeable future.

I agree. Mind you, I don't believe there is actually a 'queue' but, if there was one, it is definitely a good idea. It will at least make people think twice before leaving, especially for frivolous reasons, then hoping to get back again almost straight away.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:46am

I bet there would be plenty of people in hotspots for covid19 willing to step over their dead mothers to get a plane trip to Australia or New Zealand. Allegedly, Cuba tried a policy of putting HIV positive people quarantined somewhere on the island, for the purposes of living out their days and not infecting other Cubans. Supposedly, it worked.

I could imagine that there a plenty of people that would use places like Australia and New Zealand as a refuge until case numbers die down in their countries. But, for people from Australia going overseas for anything not work-related, I do not see any reason why they cannot wait it out until the virus is under control. And for work-related matters, surely video calls and emails can do a lot more these days than a trip overseas.

Get citizens back home as soon as reasonably possible. But they can get tested and quarantined for 2 weeks after that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2^nd, 2021 at 3:23pm

McGowan has done the right thing :

A crowd of 45,000 was due to attend the match after a 75 per cent capacity limit was imposed in the wake of Perth's Anzac Day weekend outbreak.

Mr McGowan said the decision to cancel attendance was made on medical advice.

"The decision to have no crowds at the stadium also helps us in preventing possible transmission on public transport," he said.

"Having 45,000 people try to get to [Perth] Stadium at the same time is too much of a risk.

"The game will still go on and people can watch the game from their own homes."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 2^nd, 2021 at 5:15pm

Wow, no-one was more surprised than I was when I heard there were not going to be any crowds at the game this afternoon.

Well done, Mark McGowan.

I wonder how many fans actually turned up at Optus Stadium earlier in the day before the announcement was made? Glad I didn't have to go anywhere near there today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2021 at 8:52am

Western Australia regions of Perth and Peel face nervous wait as Premier Mark McGowan flags possible lockdown

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-03/perth-and-peel-wait-covid-tests-mcgowan-lockdown/100111370

Quote:

Western Australia is in a 'holding pattern" as authorities trace the movements of two food delivery drivers who caught COVID-19 from a housemate who worked in a Perth quarantine hotel.

On Sunday WA Premier Mark McGowan said Perth and the Peel region had avoided being plunged into another snap lockdown, just a week after the last one which was triggered by another case of COVID-19 transmission in a different quarantine hotel.

However, he stressed that could change as early as today, as more information about the two drivers' movements came to light.

So, there's STILL the possibility of another lockdown this week. Better check and make sure we've got enough toilet paper before I go to the shops later. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 3^rd, 2021 at 9:30am

hope you have had your operation carl???..

Carl D wrote on May 1^st, 2021 at 12:29am:

I disagree we are a country of whingers they would demand and demand and write letters and do interviews making us look like the enemy....look whats happened in India no one made them go it was their choice their own risk....if you go o/seas EXPECT to get stuck there do not expect to come home when it suits you because this could very well be the future for a long time...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2021 at 10:30am

Hi, cods.

Nope... operation is now scheduled for May 26th, 3 weeks from Wednesday. Attempt #5 from memory. Unless it gets cancelled again which is a definite possiblity with all this Covid business here in Perth at the moment.

Yep, the situation in India is a tricky one but apparently about half of the 9,000 "stranded Aussies" wanting to come back went there since the start of this year and about 1,000 went in the past month. "Very stupid people" is probably the politest way to describe it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3^rd, 2021 at 11:25am

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2021 at 10:30am:

Insanity ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2021 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3^rd, 2021 at 11:25am:

Insanity ::)

There's really no other way to describe it. It also makes a mockery of these alleged "closed borders" and "hard borders" we've been hearing about over the past year with all these people flying in and out almost nonstop.

Right now, I'm listening to plane after plane coming in to land at Perth Airport since they've been using the shorter cross runway this morning (presumably due to the strong easterly winds) and I'm wondering how many more Covid cases are arriving and if we're going to have another quarantine outbreak and lockdown.

A lot of these planes could be the early morning FIFO flights returning but I'm pretty sure FIFO doesn't use the larger aircraft I've been seeing and hearing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2021 at 2:52pm

What a fiasco.

Coronavirus WA: COVID-positive food delivery drivers visited 76 food businesses over weekend

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-covid-positive-food-delivery-drivers-visited-76-food-businesses-over-weekend-ng-b881862206z

Quote:

More than 70 food businesses across Perth were visited by COVID-positive food delivery drivers during the course of two days, a new exposure list reveals.

McDonald’s, Hungry Jack’s, Nando’s, Subway and KFC were among the potential hotspot sites listed by the Health Department.

However, despite the delivery drivers picking up food from numerous outlets and travelling all over Perth, Premier Mark McGowan deemed the venues “very low risk”.

The delivery drivers were housemates of a hotel security guard who contracted the virus from returned travellers.

If we're not in lockdown again by the end of this week I'll be very surprised.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3^rd, 2021 at 3:01pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2021 at 2:52pm:

McDonald’s, Hungry Jack’s, Nando’s, Subway and KFC were among the potential hotspot sites listed by the Health Department.

I'm safe then.

But seriously, yes: lock-down is coming, plus an indefinite period of mask wearing.

Neither of the two bother me personally, but it's gonna be horrible for business owners and their employees.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 3^rd, 2021 at 3:13pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2021 at 10:30am:

well I will keep the old fingers crossed there is no more delays I often ask myself if this was one of the Premiers waiting for an operation would they also go through this many delays???????....I cant see it happening to be honest....

yes to all those Australians who took themselves off to India in the midst of something that has shown it is not going away.... I say tough you are stranded...the threats this govt has made has nothing to do with racism..fancy dragging that tired old excuse into this I understand some people have travelled to other countries and tried to return from there as if they have never been to India and thats shameful..

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 9:48am

Coronavirus WA: UWA academic warns mask fatigue setting in as Perth rides out COVID storm

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-uwa-academic-warns-mask-fatigue-setting-in-as-perth-rides-out-covid-storm-ng-b881864581z

(Subscriber only article but the 'headline' tells the story anyway).

Mask wearing still doesn't bother me or my elderly aunt but I was reading the other day where a lot of small businesses in Perth are still experiencing up to a 50% downturn in business which some of them attribute to the ongoing mandatory wearing of masks.

Perhaps a lot of people (especially the elderly) are preferring to stay home instead of having to wear a mask outside?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:04am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

it seems its the hospitality industry that suffers the most, I am thinking how would you be going for coffee and cake with a mask on????..... ::) ::) ::) whats the rules over there carl lift it up when you want a bite only one at a time... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:08am

cods wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:04am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

Well, yeah.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:09am

cods wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:04am:

Hi, cods.

You can take the masks off (or, just pull it under your chin like I do) for the entire duration of your meal and/or drink. At least I believe you can. That's what I see everyone else doing.

That's the problem with having crowds at the footy and other sporting events, most of the spectators would probably keep a drink (alcoholic, of course) in their hand for the entire game (as Greg said last week about the footy here in Perth) so they wouldn't need to wear a mask at all until they left to go home.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:13am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:09am:

cods wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:04am:

then it makes no sense or do they believe the germs only pass between humans when they are moving...lol sorry but it all seems like super over reaction to me...

and as per usual its the little man that pays for it..

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:16am

Oh, great.

Perth's hotel quarantine system could see fewer security guards due to shortage of vaccinated workers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-06/concerns-hotel-quarantine-security-shortage-vaccinated-workers/100119274

Quote:

Western Australia's hotel quarantine system could see a significant reduction in security guards from Monday, due to a shortage of vaccinated workers.

At least 30 per cent of the security guards staffing WA's quarantine hotels have not been vaccinated against COVID-19, just four days out from a government-imposed deadline.

But the government has indicated a reduction in guards could be managed due to the reduced number of returning Australians quarantining in WA.

So, what happens when our "returned traveller" numbers go back up from 500 to 1000+ a week?

Mind you, it isn't like these "security guards" are much use anyway (except for sitting around playing with their phones and occasionally catching the virus and potentially spreading it across half of Perth and the metropolitan area giving us all the 'joy' of more lockdowns and mask wearing, etc.).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am

Calm down

Astrazeneca and now making over a million vaccines a week here in Australia
This vaccine reduces the risk of hospitalization by 95%
Meaning that once we have vaccinated the population
It will actually be impossible for the hospital system to be overrun

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

With that rate of vaccine production and assuming the population are not reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated
We will have the whole problem solved by the end of the year

Airports back at maximum capacity
People coming in going at will

It just relies on everyone getting the vaccine

If people don't want to get the vaccine they are obviously just lazy no hopers who never want lockdown to end
There is one word for such people
Disgusting chodes

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:22am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

maybe they have run out of masks and are afraid to tell you carl???.... if they are anything like our Parliament House security I would say you wont miss them... ;D ;D ;D comedy capers...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:25am

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

at least there are consequences for those who choose no to have it..I think a lot will change their minds how about if and when they catch the virus after we have all been done.. they are then put in self isolation for 6 months....after all this is costing the nation a motza...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:30am

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

What about all of the people (myself included) who cannot have any Covid vaccine because they're immunocompromised?

Should we say "oh, too bad, they will just have to make the ultimate sacrifice so the airports can be back to maximum capacity and people can come and go at will"?

You really need to stop covering yourself with Roundup every day. :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:43am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

Yep.

He took the T**** line.

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Next minute, aqua's pushing old people out of the way in the vaccination queue.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

Incorrect

I have never said the virus is a hoax I have nearly said it is not a catastrophic disease

The virus represents a very small threat of death

The vaccine represents and incredibly incredibly small threat of death

Continued economic lockdown represents catastrophic societal failure

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:05am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:30am:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

You sure about that

My understanding is the only people who cannot have the vaccine are those who have had an anaphylactic reaction to a previous vaccine

I am sure there are many many many immunocompromised people having the vaccine

Can you provide a link stating that is the official policy that the immunocompromised do not be vaccinated

I doubt it

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:06am

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

For the majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

Incorrect

Aqua had the vaccination so that young people can enjoy human flourishing

Gregory peccary despite looking after to elderly relatives
Has decided not to have the vaccination
And put their lives at risk
One has to wonder about his motivations

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:25am

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:05am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:30am:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

The information seems to keep changing.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19/who-can-get-vaccinated-for-covid-19#compromised-immune-systems-or-allergies

But, I definitely saw a list a few months back where it stated that it was not recommended immunocompromised people have a Covid vaccine at that stage.

And,

https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/affected-cancer/covid-19-and-cancer/covid-19-vaccines-and-cancer/FAQs

Safety and effectiveness

Quote:

People with cancer were not included in most clinical trials for the COVID-19 vaccines. This is because clinical trials typically need to see whether the vaccines will work in people with healthy immune systems.

So, at the present time no-one really knows how the Covid vaccines affect people with compromised immune systems, or cancer and its follow up treatments.

In my case, since I completed 2 months of 5 days a week radiation treatment for prostate cancer on December 10th and I'm still having Lucrin injections every 3 months for at least the next 18 months plus I'm due to have half of my thyroid removed later this month (unless it gets cancelled again) I, for one, won't be taking any chances with a Covid vaccine until my GP tells me it is safe for me to have it.

My 91 year old aunt also won't be having any Covid vaccine until her GP tells her it is safe.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Neferti on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:59am

My immune system is compromised and I will NOT be having the jab.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:10pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:06am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

For the majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close

And still, you push elderly people out of the queue so you can get the jab yourself.

Everything you say is a contradiction of the last thing you said.

It's your MO.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:06am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:29am:

But you said the virus was a hoax.

What changed your mind?

"Just a mild case of the sniffles", wasn't it, according to aqua?

For the majority of the population that is entirely correct
It is nothing like sars or abola
Not even close

And still, you push elderly people out of the queue so you can get the jab yourself.

Everything you say is a contradiction of the last thing you said.

It's your MO.

not pushing anyone out of the way.

meanwhile, you live with elderly vulnerable people and refuse to front up for the vaccine, thereby endangering them.

its your MO

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:46pm

roll up your sleeves Carl

For most people with immunocompromise, the Oxford University/AstraZeneca can be given at any time, and the main priority is to be vaccinated as early as possible, according to the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI).

‘Many immunocompromising conditions are associated with a higher risk of severe illness and complications from COVID-19 … [and] vaccination should be strongly encouraged,’ it states.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/more-advice-on-covd-vaccines-for-immunocompromised

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:49pm

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:25am:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 11:05am:

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:30am:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

Any coward that does not wish to get the vaccine
Can then be ignored as a fool

that gp needs his head read.

the risk of covid to a 91 yo is large
the risk of the vaccine is small

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:50pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:46pm:

As I said, only if and when my GP tells me it is safe for me to do so. Same goes for my aunt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:53pm

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:46pm:

As I said, only if and when my GP tells me it is safe for me to do so. Same goes for my aunt.

um.

i just gave you the advice from the colledge of GP's website.

you want to educate this doctor

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 2:43pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 12:53pm:

um.

i just gave you the advice from the colledge of GP's website.

you want to educate this doctor

um.

One thing I've learned is to not rely too much on information I read on the Internet (which is being constantly reinforced just from reading some peoples' posts on this forum). ;)

Again... my GP will let me know if and when it is safe for me to be vaccinated against Covid. And, he's in a position to make the best decision since he has my entire medical history available to him.

And, even after that, it will still be my choice whether or not to have the vaccine (I will if it is safe).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 4:18pm

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

Here's the story from today's West Australian.

Yes, I've noticed that myself in my travels during the past week - people not wearing masks properly or not at all.

Some people may have a medical exemption but most of the ones I've seen looked pretty fit to me (and, they weren't doing any sort of 'vigorous exercise' either).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 4:41pm

WA coronavirus restrictions: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased rules for Perth and Peel

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/wa-coronavirus-restrictions-premier-mark-mcgowan-announces-eased-rules-for-perth-and-peel-ng-b881865476z

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan has announced eased restrictions for Perth and Peel from midnight tomorrow, with masks only required on public transport and at large events.

Mr McGowan announced the eased restrictions after all 115 close contacts linked to the security guard from the Pan Pacific Hotel were tested, and returned negative results.

Those close contacts remain in quarantine.

“Masks will now only be required on public transport, or at events or venues with more than 1000 people,” the Premier said.

They will also be required in hospitals, disability and aged care facilities.

I will continue to do what I've been doing since the first lockdown in February - carry a mask with me wherever I go (just in case).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 5:36pm

about time he caught up with Gladys ....why punish everyone seems like its always when a special weekend is coming it must be hell for all our little cafes and takeaways..

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 5:42pm

cods wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

about time he caught up with Gladys ....why punish everyone seems like its always when a special weekend is coming it must be hell for all our little cafes and takeaways..

Yep, happened to us on the ANZAC Day weekend.

Now, Sydney is getting it just in time for Mother's Day.

Greater Sydney and NSW Covid restrictions: new coronavirus rules for Mother’s Day weekend explained

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/06/greater-sydney-covid-restrictions-tonight-nsw-coronavirus-rules-explained-masks-indoors-singing-dancing-weddings-mask-wearing-public-transport-new-south-wales-mothers-day-weekend

Quote:

The New South Wales premier, Gladys Berejiklian, has announced new restrictions for greater Sydney, including Wollongong, the Central Coast and the Blue Mountains, following two cases of local Covid transmission in Sydney’s east.

At least it isn't a complete lockdown like we had over the ANZAC Day weekend... not yet, anyway.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on May 6^th, 2021 at 5:45pm

there is still one they havent found thats why....here in ACT we have none of that....lolol....

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:16pm

Virus's generally do not have an Australian Holiday calendar

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:17pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

Uh-oh!

Five more suffer blood clotting after receiving AstraZeneca jab

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-vaccine-update-queensland-man-blood-clotting-case-townsville-astrazeneca-covid19-vaccine/f18ae6b3-09eb-40da-b74c-e88c8ece3b50

Quote:

Five more people are being treated for serious blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, the Therapeutic Goods Administration has said.
The cases are in a 74-year-old man and a 51-year-old woman from Victoria, a 66-year-old man from Queensland, a 64-year-old woman from Western Australia and a 70-year-old man from Tasmania.
Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young said the 66-year-old is in intensive care as a "direct result" of receiving the COVID jab on March 30.

Haven't we been told (many times) that the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for everyone over 50?

I'm guessing we'll be seeing quite a few more "reprehensible idiots who refused to be vaccinated" now?

And, I'm inclined to agree with a letter writer in our West Australian a few weeks back who suspects we've been told the AstraZeneca vaccine was safe for over 50's because it has already been given to a large number of aged care residents throughout Australia and the Federal government is worried about lawsuits if many elderly people start dying as a result of blood clots (the government can blame AstraZeneca who, as well as the other Covid vaccine manufacturers, are apparently 'immune' from lawsuits pertaining to their Covid vaccines due to the rapid development and testing).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 5:12pm

Well, it was extremely obvious that today was the day when masks were no longer mandatory except on public transport, at footy games, events with 1,000 people or more, hospitals, etc.

Could hardly move in Belmont Forum this afternoon (Mother's Day tomorrow probably also had something to do with it being so busy) and while many people were using the SafeWA app (or pen and paper) when entering stores there still wasn't too much social distancing to be seen.

Let's see how long our "Covid free lifestyle" lasts this time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 5:46pm

More good news for WA.

McGowan moves to permanently reduce WA’s overseas traveller intake

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/mcgowan-moves-to-permanently-reduce-wa-s-overseas-traveller-intake-20210507-p57q0w.html

Quote:

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has flagged a permanent reduction to the maximum number of returned international travellers Perth will take each week in an effort to reduce the risk of another hotel quarantine breach.

Prior to the Anzac Day long weekend lockdown, the state was receiving up to 1025 returned travellers a week, temporarily reduced to 512 in the wake of the breach.

Mr McGowan indicated the cap would remain at 530, with three of WA’s hotels considered ‘high risk’ due to ventilation issues in the process of being taken offline.

Zero would be my preferred number and I'm pretty sure most West Australians would agree.

Meanwhile, check out these idiots.

InterContinental Hotel Perth staff hold ‘tone deaf’ and ‘disrespectful’ COVID-themed party

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/intercontinental-hotel-perth-staff-hold-tone-deaf-and-disrespectful-covid-themed-party-ng-b881866433z

Another subscriber only article by our "esteemed" West Australian but since I bought it again today (I really need to break that habit) I've attached the full story.

Wonder if these muppets will feel like partying if they lose their jobs and they're lined up at Centrelink after the pandemic is over because no-one wants to stay in their hotel anymore due to 'left over' Covid concerns?

Oh, I didn't hide their faces - the paper did. I wonder why? ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 6:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2021 at 10:21am:

you seriously are daft.

1 the nursing home residents got the pfizer vac.

2. covid itself carries a 10 fold increased risk of thrombosis, more then the vaccine.

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)
and the vaccine CERTAINLY DOESNT SCARE ME , the risk of a clot is less then 1 in 200,000.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

time to decide.

expecting everyone to do the hard yards for you is no longer acceptable

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:11pm

Apparently blood clotting occurs normally quite often.

Quote:

........ Venous thrombosis, comprising deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and pulmonary embolism (PE), occurs with an incidence of approximately 1 per 1000 annually in adult populations (1).
Rates are slightly higher in men than women.
About two-thirds of episodes manifest as DVT and one-third as PE with or without DVT.
The major outcomes of venous thrombosis are death, recurrence, post-thrombotic syndrome and major bleeding due to anticoagulation.
Thrombosis is also associated with impaired quality of life, particularly when post-thrombotic syndrome develops (2, 3).
Death occurs within one month of an episode in about 6% of those with DVT and 10% of those with PE (4).
The mortality rate for PE has been estimated to be high as 30% in studies that included autopsy-based PE diagnosis (5), pointing out the fact that many PE are not recognized clinically before death.
Mortality rates are lower among patients with idiopathic venous thrombosis and highest among those whose thrombosis occurs in the setting of cancer.

Venous thrombosis is a disease of aging, with a low rate of about 1 per 10,000 annually before the fourth decade of life, rising rapidly after age 45 years, and approaching 5–6 per 1000 annually by age 80 .........

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2020806/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:18pm

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)

As someone who was diagnosed with serious prostate cancer which rated 9 as a Gleason score just over a year ago (which I'm hoping has been successfully treated) and also has an almost 4cm lump on the right side of the thyroid which has a 15% chance of being the beginning of thyroid cancer (and I'm still waiting for my operation to have it removed which is now supposed to be May 26th... appointment attempt #5) I can say with absolute certainty that Covid and the vaccines don't worry me in the slightest.

But, I am worried about my 91 year old aunt and the tens of thousands of others in this country who would probably die if the virus gets loose here... vaccine or no vaccine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:28pm

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

we will get a super spreader event soon and there will be a lot of deaths.

we need to offer the vaccine for a resonable period of time (by october , everyone who wants one can have one) and then let it rip and let the evolutionary blowtorch make all the people who dont want the virus OR the vaccine come to their senses ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.

nope.

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

now we have one, they dont want to get it.

they just want to keep borders closed.

unacceptable.

have the vaccine or have the virus.

simple choice.

neither scares me

both seem to terrify the confused conflicted inconsistent cretins

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 8^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)

you are confused.

are you SERIOUSLY SAYING that even if we ALL got vaccinated, we still need to keep our borders closed ?
seriously

at what point will you accept an end to fortress australia

do tell ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 8^th, 2021 at 8:08pm

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

Unbelievable... you seriously need to seek professional help - you can start by killing less brain cells with the Roundup. Better hurry though, I strongly suspect you don't have too many left.

nope.

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

Link? :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 8:18pm

Calm down, aqua... you seem to be getting a bit overexcited (too much Roundup exposure today?).

No one has any definite proof yet that Covid vaccines are effective, especially against all the new variants that are appearing lately.

And, from what we've seen with recent "returned travellers" testing positive after being fully vaccinated overseas, the vaccines don't stop people getting Covid and spreading it to others. Which would be a disaster here in Australia considering the low number of vaccinated people we have so far.

Another important question is - what do you think would happen to a Federal government (with an election due next year) that allowed Covid to escape into the community and potentially cause tens of thousands to die if we "let it rip" after this October as you suggest.

I'm sure Scott Morrison is thinking about that every day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 8^th, 2021 at 8:30pm

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)

He is talking about fortress Western Australia, and yes, Mcgowan can keep it going indefinitely, he has an unbeatable majority and lots of cash$$$, they budgeted for $55 a tonne iron ore now its $200.PT. I think that gives Mcgowan an extra $20b if I heard correctly. I dont like him, but thats the facts.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 8^th, 2021 at 8:40pm

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)

Carl - oh, that is scary.
Good luck for you.

In New Zealand, they are not recommending covid vaccines for the very elderly.
I think that is a valid idea.

If enough 'other' people get vaccinated, the very elderly will be protected by the herd immunity.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

I doubt it but there's a definite possibility they may be screaming after receiving the vaccine. Especially the AstraZeneca one.

The chance of blood clots (for young AND old) and now this:

Health authorities investigate after WA woman develops large-scale bruising after COVID-19 jab

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/health-authorities-investigate-after-wa-woman-develops-large-scale-bruising-after-covid-19-jab-ng-b881867249z

Quote:

WA health authorities are investigating after a grandmother developed bruising all over her body days after receiving her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The daughter of 80-year-old Maureen DeBoick, from near Mt Barker in the Great Southern, shared shocking images of her elderly mother’s bruise-covered hands, saying she had to be airlifted from Albany to Fiona Stanley Hospital two weeks ago for treatment.

“It started off as a spot on her tongue that got bigger overnight,” Trudy Love posted on social media. “It progressed very quickly to the inside of her gums bleeding & everywhere she touched on her body came out in a huge dark bruise straight away.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 9^th, 2021 at 12:33am

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Poor Maureen DeBoick.
That is very sad.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cancer

your 90 yo aunts risk , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE 1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:44am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 12:33am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Poor Maureen DeBoick.
That is very sad.

dont be sucked into individual cases sprint.

recently a car was swept away in the floods in qld and the guy died because he was stuck in his seat belt and couldnt get free.

so sad.

murderous seat belts
if only he hadnt put on that seat belt.

NO.

if something greatly reduces the risk of death 99 % of the time, then if you die in the other 1 % scenario, it doesnt change the fact that you are way way way safer wearing a seat belt.

and you are way way way safer having the vaccine.

i havent come upon a siuation where australians have shown their national stupidity quite as bad as this.

old people should have it because its way way safer.

young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:46am

rhino wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 8:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

i think you are enjoying "fortress WA" just a little too much.

Oh, yes... as are most West Australians, I'm sure.

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

isnt it ironic that covid doesnt scare me (but it obviously scares YOU)

but i thought you were saying china is on the brink of caollapse?

that price wont hold up then ::) ::) ::).

and why not use that extra cash to build new infrastructure and jobs for young people,
why use it to maintain a safe space.

rediculous

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:47am

I hear you Aqua.

For Maureen and her family, it is a very sad time.
To say the least.

The media is not giving a balanced view and they are escalating some things.

But, for this lady and those who loved her. :( :(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:01am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:47am:

this is NOT NEW sprint.

fluvax carries a risk of anaphylaxis and death.

probably thousands of people have died from an allergic reaction to penicillin.

having a ceasarian increases the mothers chances of dying in the next 6 weeks by well over double (due to clots).

you can find "tragic cases" everywhere.

but you have to weight up the risks
make a sensible analysis and then move forward.

i can gaurantee you one thing.

for every person who dies from covid vaccines this year there will be many more who die from a ladder fall

There were 226 patients who died as a result of the ladder‐related fall, with 186 (82.3%) aged over 60 years.

the media dont report it because its not sexy.

maybe we should ban ladders from households and all remain safe under our beds ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:04am

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:44am:

young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer

lol... "human flourishing". What a load of bollocks.

More population... more congested roads, more pollution, more things like hospitals unable to cope with an increased population... more chance of the next pandemic killing tens or hundreds of thousands in Australia (assuming this one doesn't, there's still a big chance that will happen).

I'm done with this. Find someone else to play with.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2021 at 12:11pm

Carl D wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:04am:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:44am:

young people should have it because when we get to 90 % vaccinated they can recommence "human flourishing"

its a no brainer

you are channelling pauline hansen ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 9^th, 2021 at 10:02pm

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

but you have to weight up the risks
make a sensible analysis and then move forward.

sensible analysis? You? really? ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?

The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the risk of covod
Are now the same people who are shrieking about the risk of the vaccine

I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the world with the spirit of adventure
Then you can kid yourself that you would if you could
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:25pm

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?

The people who shrieked about the vaccine? But, Aquascoot, that's you.

You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation.

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 10^th, 2021 at 5:53pm

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just a few months ago you were going to play Russian Roulette with the virus and send your vaccine to the "noble Ghurkas", living on a bowl of dirt a day.

Now?

i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be associated with the weak individuals who think a 1 in 200,000 risk is "dangerous".

christ.

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 10^th, 2021 at 6:29pm

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again

I must say that I never watch A Current Affair but I would definitely make an exception to watch that particular episode. In fact, I would have to record it and show it around the neighbourhood.

"Hey, kids... look what this numbnuts is doing... never, ever do something stupid like that"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:08pm

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?

The ironical thing is that the same people who are shrieking about the

I think the collective subconscious of the Australian chode
Quite likes staying at home
Quite likes working from home whatever the hell that means
Quite likes the idea of Scott Morrison mailing them a cheque

And quite likes the idea of the country continuing in this mediocre state in perpetuity

Vaccine resistance
A population that says it wants a vaccine so they can return to normal
But when push comes to shove
They don't want to return to normal

They are in love with their own mediocrity
If you never challenge yourself to move out into the
And coved provides the perfect cover for your inaction and lack of courage

You shrieked about taking your vaccine. You said you wanted to catch the virus and get herd mentality. You said you'd send it to the "noble Ghurkas" so they could get back to work and feed their kids an extra bowl of dirt a day.

You? Yes, dear, you. You shrieked and you howled and you said we're not gonna take it. Look at the"noble Donald", you said, it's positively Biblical. Not so much a man but a God. He let the virus in to test the strength of the Real Americans. The chodes, you said, who live lives of pure garbage, will die off, leaving only the strong, who relish adversity. You welcomed the virus. Catching it would give you the opportunity for self reflection and gratitude meditation.

What about the ancillary symptoms, we said, the heart and lung problems, the reduced brain function? Okay, you said, maybe not that. But you will visit the doctor, pick up your vaccine, and send it off to Pakistan at the earliest opportunity - unlike the virtue-signalling leftards, so mean and selfish.

No, only the "noble righty" wants to help the poor, lift them off the scrap heap and feed their poor, starving children an extra bowl of dirt a day - to he who has all, more shall be given. You said.

Have you changed your mind now?

Yes, but what about the "noble Ghurka"?

There he is, working hard and bringing his dirt home to put in a bowl for his poor, starving children - thanks to the leftards shutting our borders and not letting him come over here.

You're just going to ignore him now that he's served his purpose, are you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 10^th, 2021 at 8:09pm

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?

the noble gurkha will have truckloads of vaccine available to him.
aussie chodes dont want it.
they know that they will have to go back to work if the crisis ends
they want to remain in lockdown forever ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:01pm

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

Actually Nepal is in crisis, the virus is swathing through the population and they have run out of vaccine with only a small number of Nepalis vaccinated, they are in the same boat as India now. Nepal is in a lot of trouble.

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-nepal-stares-at-covid-abyss-as-cases-skyrocket-by-1200-in-weeks-7308073/

Quote:

Explained: Nepal stares at Covid abyss as cases skyrocket by 1200% in weeks
Last month, the little Himalayan nation that has around 31 million people was reporting just about 100 cases a day. Now, that figure is slowly nearing the 10,000-mark.

You should try reading, watching or listening to world news sometimes, that way you might actually learn a bit of whats going on in the world instead of constantly making crap up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:42am

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 4:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 7:43am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2021 at 6:40am:

Carl D wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 11:15pm:

Thanks, Sprint. :)

aquascoot wrote on May 8^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

the population were SCREAMING for a vaccine.

As Lols said a couple of days ago, the vaccine name should be changed to Russian Roulette. :o

you have seriously lost the plot.

your risk of death from covid, maybe 1 in 20 at least if you are old and have cance
r

your 90 yo aunts risk , maybe 1 in 4.

your RISK FROM THE VACCINE 1 in 200,000 of a clot and 1 in 1 million of death,

now carl

think hard

truy to use your brain.

would your aunt rather play russian roullet with 1 in 3 chambers loaded or with 1 in 1000000 chamber loaded.

your continuied amping up of the fear is illogical.

i noticed when s shark kills someone in WA, you all want sharks demolished despite it being such a low low risk.

learn to live with SOME risk
its unavoidable.

1 in 1 million sounds good to me

Strange. Just were going to play Russian R
Now?

i have indeed changed my mind.

if the vaccine was in short supply , i wouldnt be lining up with the anxious chodes to get it.

but now that the media rea catasrophising about the "deadly vaccine", i dont want to be

i couldnt live with myself if i was that lilly livered.

so i had it and am happy to go on a current affair and have 100 vials of the vaccine given to me IV if it means we all get back to work and making australia great again

No, the "noble righties" don't want it. They want to catch the virus. They want to bounce out of bed each day with a challenge to overcome. You said you could use the downtime to learn a new language.

You said you plan to send your vaccine off to the Gurkhas. Now now, we said, that's a bit ambitious.

No, you said, you meant it. No vaccine for you. Remember? Off to the "noble Gurkhas", Parcel Post.

Why are you now virtue signalling to the leftards? Were you just pretending?

Or are you tricking us now?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2021 at 12:52pm

what are you on about you stupid idiot.

the noble right want to get back to business.

we miss productive work and going overseas with a 'spirit of adventure"

it is the chodes , hiding under the kitchen table who wont get jabbed.

by and large , people who like the "enforced laziness' of the covid catastrophisation

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm

Not being able to travel overseas isnt "enforced laziness" you thick wally. We can see what your churlishness is about now, you cant go on your trips to Bali, no wonder you are sooking like a schoolgirl.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

the noble businessman travels overseas to trade and enrich the society. he is a giver.

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:59pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 12:52pm:

No, dear, you said so yourself. You wanted to catch the virus, you'd send your vaccine to the noble Gurkhas.

How will you do that? We said.

Where there's a will there's a way, you said. The Superior Man embraces adversity. Who knows? Maybe you could take up the violin.

The jig's up, dear. When did you become a leftard?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:16pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

contributor v consumer.

its fascinating that many city dwellers think being a consumer is some sort of noble calling.

they actually think living a parasitic existence enobles them.

incredible stuff

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:27pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

I live in a rural environment, farmers consume just like everyone else, your claim makes no sense, but hey, whats new.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:28pm

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?

a few fly in fly out miners using german, korean or japansese excavators.

the average chode in perth must be bursting with personal pride , living a parasitic existence off the royalties from someone else digging stuff up ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:31pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:28pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

the chode hides under the table in fortress australia and hopes to live off royalties from iron ore (that he is too lazy to mine). he is a taker

And just another point, if Australia is too lazy to mine iron ore then how on earth are we exporting it in great quantities to China? magic?

nah, the iron Ore industry employs around half a million people directly and indirectly and is currently supporting the standard of living you are currently enjoying and the cheap trinkets you are buying. . Its responsible for 30 percent of government revenue. The whole country has avoided a recession largely because of Iron ore, thats indisputable.
And the machinery is serviced and repaired in Perth, I know this because I live near a main highway which is chock a block full of dump trucks and mine machinery going back and forth up north. Mcgowan has built a high truck servicing and layby area at Muchea about 50 k from Perth.
Anything else you dont know since you are are on a roll here?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:39pm

Anyway, had my idiot quota for the morning, between you Unsub and grappler you got more dementia than an entire old peoples home.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:41pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Sorry, are you saying you don't want to catch the virus now, or are you just shifting the paradigms?

I'm confused.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2021 at 1:19am

WA hotel quarantine security guard stood down over breach of coronavirus protocols

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-11/wa-hotel-quarantine-security-guard-stood-down/100130212

Quote:

A West Australian quarantine hotel security guard has been stood down for working a second job and another is under investigation, the state government has revealed.

The WA government moved to prevent hotel quarantine security staff from working a second job in February, after the state was plunged into lockdown when a guard tested positive to COVID-19.

As compensation, hotel quarantine workers were eligible for a 40 per cent loading on their base salary.

In response to questions from the ABC about compliance with the secondary employment rule, the state government revealed one security officer had been stood down for breaching the statutory declaration.

A government spokeswoman said security staff were required to complete a statutory declaration with their employer confirming they would not undertake secondary employment.

And, the incompetence continues.

As I've said before - all these so called security guards seem to be good for is sitting around playing with their phones and occasionally catching Covid then potentially spreading it across half of Perth.

Won't be long before we have another lockdown here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 12^th, 2021 at 6:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

The noble righty lauds the noble consumer. The customer is always right, he says.

Great noble capitalists like the noble Donald, ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc, always praised his customers. Russian oligarchs and Saudi sheikhs? Great guys, always up for a party, believe me. Scottish golfers? Good putters, just be sure to check the rooms for lighbulbs when they check out. Chinese whales? The hookers love them, always done in two minutes.

The big fella's a good customer himself. Rather than pay his bill, he offers the owner a selfie with the Donald to stick on the wall. Think how many customers will come back if they see that.

No, from the casinos to the Trump Foundation to Trump University to the citizens of America Inc, one thing's for sure: the customer is always right.

Unless it's a RIGGED witch hunt, so unfair. Then it's THEFT.

We need to study him, no? 5 years is the minimum.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

simple.

produce cattle

sell to the chinese who make something for trade (phones white goods, cloths).

this is called 'trade'

your idea is

produce cattle

donate to city parasites who produce nothing.

this is called 'charity and entitlement"

i'll deal with the chinese and they can deal with me.

if you just want to consume and not produce, then both myself and the chinese should ignore you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:16pm

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 6:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

we are discussing something that does not have anything to do wit trump and yet you and gweggy still see everything thru the trump lens..

the Trump derangement syndrome still rages :D :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:59pm

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

Fair enough, you take the cattle and we will take the iron ore, ok? The cattle export market is currently worth $1.35 Billion to Australia, iron ore market is worth 128 billion upwards. Because you favour the user pays principle then we will have to withdraw all services from rural areas including health, education etc, , you people just arent paying your way. And dont bother to ask for any iron ore money, we dont want you farming parasites living of our mining money.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2021 at 8:34pm

rhino wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

not a problem.

hospitals are a health hazard
and education is now indocrination.

happy to oblidge.

by the way, i own my cattle.
i think rio tinto owns the iron ore.

or do you and gweggy and carl get the shovels out every day and actually earn your keep

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 12^th, 2021 at 8:39pm

Rio Tinto does not own the iron ore which enables your standard of living. You can also give up your internet services , scheme electricity and water, RFDS, these are all subsidised by city folk who earn the bulk of Australias income. And if you need any hospital or medical treatment you will have to pay for that as well. All subsidised by city folk. Live cattle trade, Lol ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 12^th, 2021 at 10:36pm

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 6:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

we are discussing something that does not have anything to do wit trump and yet you and gweggy still see everything thru the trump lens..

the Trump derangement syndrome still rages :D :D :D

Oh? You don't have an opinion on the "noble retailer"?

Perhaps you'd rather shift the paradigm.

Don't discuss customers, marketing, sales, the "noble capitalist" or the ex-Entertainer In Chief and CEO of America Inc.

We'll talk about the chodes instead, shall we?

The "noble righty". He's on holiday, leftards. He's no longer into America, he's now a jolly Maoist.

You?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Karnal on May 12^th, 2021 at 10:44pm

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

rhino wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 12:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:57pm:

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2021 at 1:36pm:

so when you sell something overseas you are a giver but when someone else does it they are a taker. gotcha.

Its bizarre how overly simplistic this view is. How do you hope to make any money as a contributor if you have no one to consume it.

Rhino doesn't get the shovel out every day, dear. He saves it for special occasions.

You?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 12^th, 2021 at 11:27pm

I need my shovel for Aquas constant bullshit.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:32am

If all this is true then we've been even luckier in Perth over the past 12 months than we believed.

Pulling back the curtain on WA’s ‘festering’ hotel quarantine conditions, ex-guard fears more virus leaks

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-wa-s-festering-hotel-quarantine-conditions-ex-guard-fears-more-virus-leaks-20210506-p57pen.html

The state’s hotel quarantine system has been plagued by five virus transmissions to security guards, now an ex-guard reveals how he put cling wrap around his head in protest of the lack of sanitation and PPE at a different hotel.

Quote:

″It’s a festering Petri dish,” is how a hotel quarantine whistleblower describes his time guarding international arrivals at Perth’s Intercontinental Hotel late last year, before a state review unmasked the unsafe conditions for security guards.

The security guard, who does not wish to be identified for work reasons, describes an unruly environment where guests would open their room doors at random, and he felt disgusted at the lack of sanitation. In one extraordinary revelation the guard said a guest was simply forgotten and stayed in the hotel for three months.

The guard worked for three months at the hotel via a subcontractor until he thought he contracted the virus and quit his $400-a-day pay packet in November 2020.

$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. ::)

Quote:

Those he worked with were mostly foreigners on $23 an hour, who he said did not have a proper command of English and whose own sanitary standards were well below those expected for the job.

The guard said behind the theatre of arrivals being escorted from the airports and into the hotel under police guard, inside it was “chaos”.

He said arrivals were assigned rooms in a lottery system meaning families of four had to share a one-bed room, while a single adult got the penthouse.

“There’s no windows open in these hotels and at one point in September it was boiling and I remembered thinking, ‘I’m breathing it all in now, I’m breathing in corona’,” the self-confessed germophobe said.

Quote:

He claimed a man from China stayed at the hotel undetected for three months, well beyond his quarantine, because no one told him he could go until a nurse made the discovery.

lol... definitely a government run operation. Reminds me of a "returned traveller" who wrote to The West Australian a few weeks back and said (amongst other worrying things about the way things were being run) she was told she would be able to come out of her hotel room at 6:02PM which was exactly 14 days to the minute after she arrived at Perth Airport. 6:02PM, not 6:00 or even 6:01PM. ::)

Quote:

He said the state of staff eating areas and toilets was “horrendous”, with food and takeaway wrappers all over the floor, and the bathrooms made him gag.

When the guard raised the lack of sanitation or masks with management, he claims to have been told to keep his mouth shut. Part of his contract included signing a waiver preventing workers from speaking to the media.

“They think they’re law enforcement, but we were babysitters at most,” he said.

But, I'm sure things have improved since then. Haven't they? :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:35am

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

or do you and gweggy and carl get the shovels out every day and actually earn your keep

Can't speak for the others but Carl has been retired and living on his super for the past 2 years after working for over 45 years.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:44am

Carl D wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. ::)

Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates, works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:49am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:44am:

Carl D wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. ::)

Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates, works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .

Maximum shift length is 10 hours.

c) By agreement between the employer and the majority of affected employees at a particular establishment, an employee may be rostered to work up to 12 ordinary hours per shift if:

(i) proper health monitoring procedures are introduced;and

(ii) suitable roster arrangements are made;and

(iii) proper supervision is provided;and

(iv) adequate breaks are provided;and

(v) an adequate trial or review process is implemented when 12 hour shifts are first introduced.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:44am:

Carl D wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. ::)

Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates, works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .

Maximum shift length is 10 hours.

wrong, they working 4 x 12 hour shifts on and 4 off. They cant do 10 hour shifts for obvious reasons. Ring them up and ask them Pecca.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:44am:

Carl D wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

$400 a day??? To sit around playing with your phone all day? Paid for by taxpayers, of course. I was definitely in the wrong line of work for all those years. ::)

Casual rates, 12 hour shifts, no penalty rates, works out to less than $25 per hour including weekends, nights and public holidays, substantially below award. Amazing Pecca isnt straight onto this .

Maximum shift length is 10 hours.

wrong, they working 4 x 12 hour shifts on and 4 off. They cant do 10 hour shifts for obvious reasons. Ring them up and ask them Pecca.

You didn't read the rest of my post.

I can assure you that under the Modern Award, "The maximum number of ordinary hours that an employee may be rostered to work on a shift is 10."

However:

(c) By agreement between the employer and the majority of affected employees at a particular establishment,an employee may be rostered to work up to 12 ordinary hours per shift if:

(i) proper health monitoring procedures are introduced;and

(ii) suitable roster arrangements are made;and

(iii) proper supervision is provided;and

(iv) adequate breaks are provided;and

(v) an adequate trial or review process is implemented when 12 hour shifts are first introduced.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Happens every day, in every state.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:57am

Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending. This is precious, you are now driven to defend companies which pay below award wages. Im guessing you dont care because they are all of a certain ethnicity, eh?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Happens every day, in every state.

ah, so you support employers paying Indian workers below award rates. well, well, well. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:16am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:57am:

Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.

Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:19am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Happens every day, in every state.

ah, so you support employers paying Indian workers below award rates. well, well, well. :)

Nope.

Despite my protests, it happens every day in every state.

Again, not sure where you got the idea I support it.

"Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews"

Now you'll be accusing me of supporting genocide ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:16am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:57am:

Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.

Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.

But you are Blanche, you are.
[quote]
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Happens every day, in every state.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:34am

Heres something else I bet you know and covertly defend, even though the government is paying 40 percent more for the contracts on the basis that the guards employed do not take other employment not one guard on those contracts is receiving any more remuneration than previous, it is all going to the contractors. and many guards still have multiple jobs because of this. Its a massive con trick aided and abetted by people like you.
Now we have an inkling of why you find it difficult to sleep at night.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:35am

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:16am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:57am:

Its irrelevant whether they agreed or not, they are working 12 hour shifts for below award money, which you are now defending.

Nope.

You're confusing me with someone else.

I'd never defend those scumbag employers.

But you are Blanche, you are.
[quote]
greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:55am:

rhino wrote on May 13^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

These companies are under paying on a government contract. i know who has the contracts if you dont.

Happens every day, in every state.

Nope.

Stating a fact doesn't mean I support it.

Wait until your hangover wears off, and read the thread again - you'll hopefully see where you went so horribly wrong.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 13^th, 2021 at 11:39am

too late, everyone can see this thread and your defense of the companies underpaying Indian guards because "it happens in every state".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 14^th, 2021 at 10:08am

No masks, crowd limits as WA eases rules

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/no-masks-crowd-limits-as-wa-eases-rules-c-2831707

Quote:

Western Australia will welcome back capacity crowds and no longer require the wearing of face masks under a further easing of coronavirus restrictions.

From 1201am on Saturday, Perth and the neighbouring Peel region will return to the conditions that existed prior to the Anzac Day weekend lockdown.

Face masks will only be required at the airport and there will no longer be limits on attendees at weddings and funerals.

Major venues including the 60,000-seat Optus Stadium will return to being able to host 100 per cent capacity crowds.

Just in time for the footy this weekend. ::) Mind you, I would love to have seen how the enforcing of mask wearing (and social distancing) for up to 60,000 spectators would have been achieved. Impossible would be my guess.

All back to normal here in Perth again. Until the next hotel quarantine Covid outbreak, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Neferti on May 14^th, 2021 at 11:03am

Carl D wrote on May 14^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

No masks, crowd limits as WA eases rules

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/no-masks-crowd-limits-as-wa-eases-rules-c-2831707

Quote:

Don't hold your breath! ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on May 14^th, 2021 at 12:14pm

With underpaid, untrained and unqualified security guards holding the fort what could go wrong?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 3:50pm

Ah, just in time for the upcoming WA Day long weekend. What a surprise. ::)

Crewman tests positive for COVID on board ship docked off WA coast

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/covid-incident-emerging-at-kwinana-port-in-wa/100181358

Quote:

A crew member from a freight ship docked at Kwinana Bulk Jetty in Western Australia has tested positive for coronavirus.
The man, believed to be the cook on the ship Allegra, was removed from the vessel and taken away by ambulance under police escort at 8:00pm last night from the terminal in Perth's south.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said the man was aged in his 20s and was now in hotel quarantine.

He said the crew member was initially taken off the ship on Sunday when he became unwell.

Next Covid outbreak could be due here in Perth before the end of the week so we're locked down for another long weekend.

Wonder if everyone's getting their caravans, etc. ready to flee to the South West before another lockdown like what happened during our ANZAC Day long weekend lockdown?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:14pm

And, Perth is getting their first planeload of "stranded Aussies" from India arriving tomorrow.

COVID-19: First repatriation flight from India to Perth to touchdown on Wednesday

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-19-first-repatriation-flight-from-india-to-perth-to-touch-down-on-wednesday-ng-b881886735z

Subscriber only article again but I've read it in today's West. The plane will be arriving tomorrow afternoon (Wednesday) and all of these "returned travellers" will be transported to a Perth City hotel (The Westin) for quarantine. They have all been *allegedly* checked for Covid before boarding the plane in India but we've seen how well that *doesn't* work a few times already.

rhino wrote on May 14^th, 2021 at 12:14pm:

With underpaid, untrained and unqualified security guards holding the fort what could go wrong?

Is it too early to ask that question again? But, whatever happens I'm sure the footy at Optus Stadium on Saturday night will go ahead as planned, Covid outbreak or not. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:54pm

And... here we go again.

WA coronavirus transmission reported in hotel quarantine after man infected by guest in next door room

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/wa-coronavirus-case-got-virus-in-hotel-quarantine/100180480

Quote:

Another person has been infected with COVID-19 while staying in a Perth quarantine hotel and authorities are urgently investigating how it took place.
The Health Department confirmed the virus was transmitted between two guests in neighbouring rooms at the Pan Pacific Hotel.

Genome sequencing data confirmed they had the same sequence of virus.

It is not yet known how transmission occurred.

Unbelievable that some people are getting paid lots of money for this ongoing sheer level of incompetence.

Stand by for another Perth lockdown in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Oh, and:

Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 8:51pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:54pm:

Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.

Im not entirely sure of that. Not saying its not possible but I just dont believe thats the obvious cause of transmission.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2021 at 9:21am

rhino wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 8:51pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:54pm:

Its transmitted through the air, i.e. aiconditioning system in the hotels, you morons.

Im not entirely sure of that. Not saying its not possible but I just dont believe thats the obvious cause of transmission.

Very difficult to prove but it is a definite possibility. Trouble is, most of these quarantine hotels are quite old. The Pan Pacific (formerly the Sheraton Perth) is nearly 50 years old - I actually watched it being built when I was a kid and lived in the flats on Terrace Road, it officially opened in January 1973 from memory.

No doubt a lot of upgrades have been done over the years but I'm sure most of the original ducting is still there and, like all of these hotels being used for quarantine, the air conditioning systems were never designed and could probably never be modified (without spending a lot of money) for quarantine purposes.

Well, one potential Covid problem has been resolved, at least. The crewmember on that ship has now tested negative.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/covid-incident-emerging-at-kwinana-port-in-wa/100181358

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 11:20pm

This is a big problem and possibly responsible for most or all of the quarantine Covid outbreaks we're having in Australia lately.

WA Health taking cautious approach to 'moderately positive' COVID case who spent a day in the community

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/wa-health-cautious-to-positive-covid-case-community/100194358

Quote:

A man has returned a "moderately positive" COVID-19 test result, one day after finishing 14 days in a Perth quarantine hotel.
Western Australia's Chief Health Officer Dr Andy Robertson said the man, who had travelled to Perth from Colombia via the United States, returned a negative result on his day-10 of quarantine and was therefore able to leave on Friday, when his two weeks were complete.
Dr Robertson said the man, who is a maritime worker, was required by his employer to be tested for the virus, which he did after leaving the hotel and has since returned the "moderately positive" result.

Conclusion: As some have said over the past 12 months -14 days quarantine is not long enough and needs to be extended by at least another week.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 7^th, 2021 at 5:32am

Carl D wrote on Jun 6^th, 2021 at 11:20pm:

Conclusion: As some have said over the past 12 months -14 days quarantine is not long enough and needs to be extended by at least another week.

now now carl.

we use lockdowns here in australia.

victoria is in lockdown with 30 cases.
england had 100,000 NEW cases last week and continues to open up.

ay the current rate of 5 new cases a day, we finish covid paranoia in 10,000 years.

i call on all state premiers to lock up the chodes for 10,000 years.

you cant put a price on a human life.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 8^th, 2021 at 12:09am

WA Government on Twitter

Quote:

A previously confirmed COVID-19 case has tested positive, after being cleared. This is not uncommon.

Anyone who has attended a potential exposure site at the times listed must get tested for COVID-19 and monitor for symptoms over the next 14 days.

Replies

Tarnya New
@tamn1977
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@WAGovernment
Emergency powers about to run out?

Daniel
@Daniel35985335
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@WAGovernment
I forgot it was a public holiday. Thanks for the reminder. Should I buy masks today or we gonna give this one a miss?

;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 9:29am

Western Australia to move to phase five COVID-19 restrictions

https://www.9news.com.au/national/wa-covid-western-australia-to-move-to-phase-five-covid19-restrictions/d9c49aeb-32c4-4b70-88fc-0a5e168b17e3

Quote:

Western Australia will move to phase five COVID-19 restrictions from Wednesday, essentially sending the state back to a pre-pandemic existence.
Under the changes, it will mean the two-square-metre rule and 75 per cent restrictions for the state's hospitality industry will be removed, with some venues allowed to return to 100 per cent capacity.
It's effectively a return to pre-COVID life for the hospitality sector.

Until the next hotel quarantine outbreak, of course.

Quote:

WA Premier Mark McGowan said the decision was based on the latest health advice.
"We're confident in doing this," Mr McGowan said today.
"We know we can put up a border when we need to ... we know Western Australians do the right thing."

In response to whether the shift to phase five would mean WA could be forced into lockdowns in the event of any future locally acquired cases, Mr McGowan said he hoped it wouldn't come to that.

Yep, right after everyone's stampeded off to the shops again to strip the shelves of toilet paper and other 'essentials', just like the rest of Australia does every time there's a lockdown. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 3:18pm

Nobody saw this coming ::)

Perth and Peel back to masks and limited capacity restrictions from noon as WA records new community case

"The Perth and Peel regions will go back to phase one restrictions over fears a new COVID-19 community case is the quick to spread Delta variant.

"West Australians will need to wear a mask indoors and outdoors when they cannot physically distance as the two square metre rule comes back into place and venues are limited to a maximum of 150 patrons for the next three days."

And:

Live breaking news: NSW, WA, NT, QLD report new Covid cases, with health authorities instating new restrictions and lockdowns

"Australia's Covid battle has significantly worsened in the past 24 hours, as multiple states and territories respond to new cases and expanding contacts."

As predictable as ... well, something that's really predictable.

I guess there'll be a nationwide shortage of toilet paper tomorrow.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 3:27pm

Freaking unbelievable, isn't it?

As I've said before - time for all the small businesses who are losing so much during these outbreaks, lockdowns and restrictions to get together and file a massive class action lawsuit against the Federal and State governments then see how long it takes for them to fix this hotel quarantine fiasco which has been the cause of every single Covid outbreak in Australia.

Or preferably - put a complete stop to all overseas arrivals until this worldwide Covid pandemic is under control.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 3:46pm

Shut the border to WA!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 4:11pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 3:27pm:

how long it takes for them to fix this hotel quarantine fiasco which has been the cause of every single Covid outbreak in Australia.

scomo seems intent on stopping the transition away from hotels and into more isolated camps ... or at least he seems to want to stop the one proposed for Brisbane/Toowoomba region

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 4:18pm

.
;D :-*
.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVNR4ks/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 5:10pm

Sophia wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 4:18pm:

.
;D :-*
.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVNR4ks/

;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 4:11pm:

scomo seems intent on stopping the transition away from hotels and into more isolated camps ... or at least he seems to want to stop the one proposed for Brisbane/Toowoomba region

Wonder if he will change his mind now that masks are required to be worn in the ACT as well?

Surely he will have to wear one like everyone else? And, preferably one that doesn't have the Australian flag printed on it seeing as a lot of people quite rightly consider that to be disrespectful.

That is when he manages to return to Australia, of course (is he back yet?).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:07pm

I also wonder if the owners of any of these hotels being used for quarantine have ever thought to themselves: "Hmm, perhaps we should be thinking about protecting the health of everyone here in Australia and tell the Federal and State governments that they cannot use our hotels for quarantining all of these "returned travellers" any more?"

Governments would then be left with two choices:

1. Build proper quarantine facilities away from the major population centres (which we've heard lots of talk about for months but still no action so far). Or, use some of the existing facilities like Christmas Island (or Rottnest Island here in WA).

2. Stop all overseas arrivals until #1 is set up and operating or the pandemic is over or under control worldwide (this would probably happen before they get their heads out of their collective @sses and implement #1).

But, seeing as most or all of these hotels would be almost out of business due to lack of tourism, etc. if they were not getting paid for being used for quarantine then I can't see them refusing to be used for quarantine purposes anytime in the foreseeable future.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:08pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 3:27pm:

Yes. This needs to happen.

I see the footy at Optus Stadium got cancelled today because of Covid (at the very last minute).

There'll be a lot of angry football fans around.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

And risk the only real profit any of them are likely to make anytime soon? Not on your life ... literally

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:38pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

1. Build proper quarantine facilities away from the major population centres (which we've heard lots of talk about for months but still no action so far). Or, use some of the existing facilities like Christmas Island (or Rottnest Island here in WA

just fly them to xmas island for two weeks before they can come to the mainland, once they come to the mainland they stay in isolated camps for another week before they are released into society

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 1:53pm

Glad I wasn't anywhere near Optus Stadium yesterday when all the people who turned up to watch the game had to go home again and the match was played in an empty stadium.

Just came back from the IGA in Kooyong Rd. and I was talking to a couple of people I know who sit on the seats outside the shops and socialize. One of them was there yesterday afternoon when buses were dropping off disappointed fans across the road from the shops and most of them were cursing and swearing.

Probably not quite as bad as the post I read on another forum where someone said his boss had come over from Sydney last week to watch the Eagles play. Hadn't seen them play for about 2 years and all he got for his trouble was to watch the Eagles get thrashed by the Western Bulldogs on the TV in his hotel room where he has to spend 14 days in quarantine at his own expense. Ouch!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:44pm

Here we go again.

Perth and Peel to enter a 4 day lockdown (at least) from midnight tonight.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1409487050424786952

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-one-new-local-case-linked-to-gym-iga-dog-groomer/58108dd8-6c46-4b53-9554-786f6bb62f61

Just as well I didn't have anything special planned for the rest of this week. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:30am

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:44pm:

We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:44pm:

We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.

Some people love a lockdown

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:09am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:44pm:

We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.

Some people love a lockdown

True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.

Same here. I know a couple of small business owners (one of them I used to work for) and their employees who won't be very happy at the moment, same as all small business owners.

But, my elderly aunt and I don't mind staying home for a few days with the wet weather we're having right now although it is supposed to clear up later.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:44pm:

We all saw this coming.

Oh well, four days at home will be nice.

Some people love a lockdown

True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.

Just be careful
A house may appear 2 be a safe space but there are many hazards

I hope that you have appropriate signage near your shower
Warning of the risks of slipping on a wet floor

Remember that when eating there is always the possibility of choking
Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

With so many Australians now being bedwetters
And winter being upon us
The use of electric blankets is potentially deadly

Finally if reading in bed
Be aware that if the page was to give you a nasty papercut
Tetanus could occur
Take a nail file and smooth off the edges of all pages before reading

One can't be too careful
And you can't put a price on human life

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:22am

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

True.

I feel sorry for the business owners and workers who lose money - that goes without saying.

But I actually don't mind a short lockdown - I get a lot done around the house.

Yep.

It's a great day to stay inside.

Very wintery out there at the moment.

I'll tackle a few work emails, restring a couple of guitars, and catch up on some Netflix.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:26am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:20am:

Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

The Heimlich manoeuvre is discouraged by ~~just about~~ every medical organisation and professional in the country.

It's never been used in Australia, as it's extremely dangerous and not very effective.

If Americans (I'm looking at you Mrs Doubtfire) wanna do that crap good luck to them, but don't promote it here.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-heimlich-manoeuvre/3053794

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:08am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:20am:

Can you tell us what the price is for getting you to stop posting rubbish like this?

Just a 'ballpark' figure would be OK for now. Thanks in advance (just running off for a minute to check my wallet) .::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:26am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:20am:

Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

Indeed, whacks on the back then chest compressions is what is taught in 1st aid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:26am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:20am:

Your alternatives are to not eat
Or to have a carer standing behind you at all times ready to carry out the Heimlich maneuver

Okaaay…. If they’re telling us what not to do when someone is choking…. Then what do we do instead?

I was watching a restaurant video footage a couple weeks ago incidentally… of a worker that was stacking chairs. It showed he was eating something and started to choke. Looking around desperately and no one about, hitting his chest, getting frantic, he got a chair and started to fall on his chest area against the chair, after a few unsuccessful attempts he finally dislodged the stuck food.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:14am

Can you give us the ballpark figure for the number of Australians currently on ventilators for treatment of kovid

I'll give you a hint

It's a number less than 1

Sounds like it's very rational to have the entire country in panic mode ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:16am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:14am:

I'll give you a hint - "Stay Tuned".

I hope I'm wrong but with winter and the Covid outbreaks all around Australia at the moment I predict we might be in for a rough time over the next few months.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:16am

PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:17am

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….

The value of doing a 1st aid course. IMO they should be compulsory.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:49am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

PS…. I just saw reply a minute before my question what to do instead… RE: whacks on back and chest compressions….

The value of doing a 1st aid course. IMO they should be compulsory.

Definitely recommended to do. And I wish it were compulsory.
I did do a level 2 first aid course with St. John’s Ambulance many years ago.
So much has changed since. Might do another updated one soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:55am

I did senior first aid every 2 years and resusc every 6 months for 30 years, Im seriously over Annie.
Fun fact , the doll they use is an actual death mask from a real woman who drowned in the Seine in the 1800s.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:58am

rhino wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:55am:

They changed the timings its now CPR every year and first aid every 3. Still hoping myremote first aid course goes as planned in August

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 1:19pm

Went up to the Kooyong Road IGA about an hour ago to get a few things.

I was surprised that it was so quiet when I got there (about 10:30am) but the lady on the checkout said it was very busy earlier.

I was even more surprised to see that they still had quite a few packs of toilet rolls and paper towels, I was betting with my aunt that they would probably have none left which no doubt would have been the case if the Perth/Peel lockdown had been announced earlier in the day yesterday (it was announced at about 8pm last night).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 3:12pm

The endless parade of idiots continues...

Perth lockdown: Vehicles attempting to flee city after lockdown turned back at Two Rocks checkpoint

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/perth-lockdown-vehicles-attempting-to-flee-city-after-lockdown-turned-back-at-two-rocks-checkpoint-ng-b881914528z

Quote:

Dozens of motorists attempting to escape Perth’s four day lockdown have been turned back at the border overnight.

Police were stopping traffic at eight checkpoints as soon as the clock struck 12:01am to enforce the lockdown order that bars travel outside the Perth and Peel region.

Officers stopped 555 vehicles, with 38 told to turn around after attempting to get through after midnight.

However, at least 100 cars and caravans were seen on the freeway making it past the check points just before lockdown.

I'll give them 10/10 for determination, at least. No-one in their right mind should even have been thinking of travelling anywhere with the cold and rain we had last night.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:13pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 8^th, 2021 at 12:09am:

WA Government on Twitter

Quote:

Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:46pm

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:13pm:

Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/

Perhaps he should have waited until he stopped the car before recording his little rant?

Let's see... driving a car and not paying attention to the road in front of him while recording himself... waving his left hand around while steering with his right (could even have been holding the phone with his right hand and steering with his knees).

Have to assume he's driving an automatic otherwise your guess is as good as mine as to what he's using to change gears. :o

Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a knock on the door from the police seeing as they probably know who he is and where he lives.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:02am

FIFO workers not exempt from Perth lockdown

https://www.australianmining.com.au/news/fifo-workers-not-exempt-from-perth-lockdown/

Quote:

A ‘stay where you are’ order has been issued by Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan, as the state enforced a snap four-day lockdown to combat multiple COVID-19 outbreaks across Australia.

The outbreak at Newmont Corporation’s Tanami gold mine has forced several Australian states into precautionary lockdowns, with premier McGowan asking fly-in, fly-out (FIFO) mine workers to remain on site or at home.

I should think so.

I've noticed its been a bit quiet at Perth Airport in the early morning for the past 2 days, I can usually hear the numerous FIFO flights taking off in the distance from about 5:15am if I'm awake but there's been a huge reduction which is probably a bit of a worry for the airport seeing as the FIFO's have been their main source of income since the start of the pandemic.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:07am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:02am:

FIFO workers not exempt from Perth lockdown

https://www.australianmining.com.au/news/fifo-workers-not-exempt-from-perth-lockdown/

Quote:

Yeah, I hear those flights at 5.15 every morning too.

Nothing yesterday or today.

I'm not leaving the house at all during this lockdown - not for anything.

Have plenty of food, so no need to go anywhere.

I've got carers looking after my mother, and my father can't have visitors at the nursing home.

Been answering work emails etc. since about 2am this morning, so most of my day's work is done.

Gonna start binge watching 'Queen of the South' on Netflix (and finish reading my Obama book).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:28am

I was recently reading up about FIFO workers here and apparently the mining companies used to provide accomodation so the workers could live 'on site' instead of constantly travelling to and from work as they do now.

I don't know if the accomodation was provided free of charge? Probably wasn't but I'm sure the mining companies would have only charged a minimal rent, no doubt much cheaper than private landlords were charging up in WA's north west anyway.

This all stopped when the Federal government made some tax changes and after that it was cheaper for the mining companies to fly workers in and out than it was to provide accomodation for them 'on site'. Big win for the airlines and airports. Not so much for the workers who now have to constantly fly to and from work (lots of stress involved there I've heard) not to mention the environment with all the pollution from the increased flights.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:31am

Carl D wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:46pm:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:13pm:

Yep… lockdowns and holidays.

This guy sums it up well.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVprwm1/

The thing I have noticed about videos in tik tok, is that they are all reversed, for instance, even writing is reversed when showing an item or product.
I’m just assuming he’s a passenger. He never takes his eyes off the phone/recording device.
Even my daughter’s videos or photos she takes and sends to me are reversed and it’s puzzling.
Maybe it’s a phone setting?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am

You might be right there, Lols.

Looking at the video again I can see out of his rear window what looks like a couple of cars passing in the other direction so the image probably is reversed (or he's in America). ::)

But, he's still an idiot in my opinion.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:41am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:28am:

A friend of mine from NZ lives on-site.

From memory, Rio only charge him about $160 per month for his three bedroom house in Parabadoo.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:08am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

;D :)
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows :)
Fact can be stranger than fiction.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

;D :)
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows :)
Fact can be stranger than fiction.

Jesus.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:31am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Jesus.

I think we've lost her. :'(

But, I suppose in all fairness, as a Victorian she has been subject to the worst Covid lockdowns and restrictions seen in Australia so far which was bound to have adverse effects on people sooner or later.

Turning to the "dark side" of conspiracy theories could be the 'last straw' for a lot of Victorians.

Don't want to upset you further Lols but I see the AFL now wants to move all the football to Victoria from now to avoid the lockdowns in other States and even play games 6 days a week to make sure they finish the season on time. Which is the exact opposite to last year when Melbourne couldn't even host the Grand Final.

Hope they don't bring Covid with them.

And, even more good news - Daniel Andrews is back on the job and I'm sure he will make certain he looks after everyone in Victoria just like he did before his unfortunate accident earlier this year.

(Carl now ducks for cover). :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:37am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

;D :)
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows :)
Fact can be stranger than fiction.

Jesus.

Yes! Lots of gospel/religious teachings in TikTok too :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:38am

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:37am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

;D :)
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows :)
Fact can be stranger than fiction.

Jesus.

Yes! Lots of gospel/religious teachings in TikTok too :)

Not surprised, it seems chock a block full of shite.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:41am

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Jesus.

I think we've lost her. :'(

But, I suppose, in all fairness, as a Victorian she has been subject to the worst Covid lockdowns and restrictions seen in Australia so far which was bound to have adverse effects on people sooner or later.

Turning to the "dark side" of conspiracy theories could be the 'last straw' for a lot of Victorians.

Don't want to upset you further Lols but I see the AFL now wants to move all the football to Victoria from now to avoid the lockdowns in other States and even play games 6 days a week to make sure they finish the season on time. Which is the exact opposite to last year when Melbourne couldn't even host the Grand Final.

Hope they don't bring Covid with them.

And, even more good news - Daniel Andrews is back on the job and I'm sure he will make certain he looks after everyone in Victoria just like he did before his unfortunate accident earlier this year.

(Carl now ducks for cover). :o

;D :)
Footballers…. They travel wherever they want that’s not in lockdown!
Don’t you worry Carl…. Once we go back into lockdown again now that HanDan is back… them footballers will up and leave… follow their balls to kick around ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:44am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:37am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:11am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 11:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Just a little off topic… about WA…. I saw this!

Anyone in WA got a handle on this info?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVQ23Jn/

Its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

SO given its on Wiki, not exactly top secret.

Reckon they had anything to do with this little bit of history in WA :D

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJVpWDxX/

No, ands stop watching dodgy comedians on Tiktok. And also what does emu management in 1932 have to do with a radio commuications facility not built til 1968?

;D :)
This is one of my faves…

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJV7A1Fw/

Oh and RE: secret bases aka communications facility… who really knows :)
Fact can be stranger than fiction.

Jesus.

Yes! Lots of gospel/religious teachings in TikTok too :)

Not surprised, it seems chock a block full of shite.

Aaawww not really. Like anything on the internet…. It’s got all sorts.
Actually, TikTok …. it’s on trend and hoards are going there, it’s expanding exponentially. Many make huge money within there too.
Have a look at the critters forum I posted an interesting vid someone shared online at a animal kingdom, it’s fascinating :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm

Just had to check if the mask wearing rules have changed here in Perth since yesterday (they haven't).

Walked up to the Kooyong Rd. shops and back (about 40 minutes in total) and in that time I saw 3 people on the street not wearing masks.

Didn't look like any of them qualified for a mask wearing exemption, especially the 30ish year old lady waiting at a bus stop. Hope she had one in her bag when the bus arrived or she'd be walking.

The lady living near us also saw several people not wearing masks when she was doing her shopping earlier.

Also saw 3 or 4 police cars driving around during my walk (may have been the same one or two). I wondered if they were checking to see if people were wearing masks because the only time we usually see (mostly hear) the police around our area is when they're chasing stolen cars or hoons. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:18pm

Coronavirus crisis: One new local coronavirus cases for WA, Premier Mark McGowan reveals

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-one-new-local-coronavirus-cases-for-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan-reveals-ng-b881916084z

Quote:

WA has recorded one new locally acquired COVID-19 case overnight, raising the prospect of the Perth and Peel lockdown extending beyond Friday and into the school holidays.

The 37-year-old male attended a Joondalup gym at the same time as both the original case 1022 on Tuesday and case 1023 on Saturday.

Contact tracers have not yet determined when the man contracted the disease, but he is not believed to have spent time in the community while infectious.

If the lockdown is extended I'll probably have to stay in the house at all times. Not to protect myself from Covid but to avoid all the riots on the streets that won't be too far off.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:27pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:18pm:

If the lockdown is extended I'll probably have to stay in the house at all times. Not to protect myself from Covid but to avoid all the riots on the streets that won't be too far off.

I might have to pop down to the shops tomorrow morning and get a few more things before he announces an extension to the lockdown on Friday.

Come Friday afternoon, the idiots will have stripped the shelves bare of toilet paper and pasta ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

They still had quite a few toilet rolls at the Kooyong Rd. IGA when I went there a while ago same as they did yesterday (I combine my allowed 1 hour of exercise with a walk to the shops).

Not sure if they were the same ones that were there yesterday or the shelves had been restocked but the manager (Tony) has probably put a few packs of toilet rolls aside in his office or the storeroom for the regular 'oldies' who shop there, same as he's done in previous lockdowns.

Better check how much we have, might have to grab an extra pack if I go up there again tomorrow.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:49pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

If we get at least one more positive case tomorrow and one on Friday, I reckon Mark will extend the lockdown for a week.

If he does that, people will go crazy with panic buying on Friday afternoon.

I still don't get why they do it though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 4:44pm

Things have been heating up a bit on Mark McGowan's Twitter account today.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1410069595054956544

I was rather amused by this reply. Well, I suppose if you're in lockdown you might as well practice your Photoshop skills. 8-)

tyrant.jpg (69 KB | 20 )

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:31pm

Raven wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.

I just went to Aldi.

Woman in front of me didn't sign in and didn't wash her hands.

Saw her later on in the store carrying a massive pack of toilet paper rolls.

FFS ::)

Buggered if I can figure out the panic-buyers' reasoning.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Prime Minister for Canyons on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:31pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.

Its happening here in Canberra and we aren't even in lockdown

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:46pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 12:31pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 11:45pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 30^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Raven was driving behind a police car, fourcops in it and not one wearing a mask.

You can only drive maskless with people from your own household. Good to see WA police upholding community safety.

Its happening here in Canberra and we aren't even in lockdown

I really don't get it.

I just can't understand what's going through their head.

Anyway, good news for WA today - no new cases overnight.

If that's repeated tomorrow our lockdown should end at midnight Friday/Saturday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 3:00pm

McGowan giving a press conference in 45 minutes (at 1.45pm).

Will Perth's lockdown be extended, or will it end at midnight tonight?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 4:10pm

Lockdown finishes tonight at midnight.

Masks are mandatory for the next nine days, and there a few other restrictions.

We got off lightly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 4:28pm

Yep, got off lightly again but our "luck" will run out sooner or later.

I'm sitting here wondering who's on all the planes that have been going over us and landing at Perth Airport when the whole city is in lockdown? More Covid cases arriving?

They're using the shorter cross runway from 8am to about 3 or 4pm like they usually do every second Friday while they do maintenance on the main runway.

FIFO is still at a standstill today and even if it wasn't most of the planes are the large ones that wouldn't be used for FIFO anyway. Freight perhaps? Maybe a few but not all.

Speaking of planes, I hope amongst all the changes announced at the National Cabinet meeting today something is being done about this:

Pandemic no barrier to private jet arrivals in Australia

Quote:

The COVID-19 pandemic has not stopped the rich and famous from coming to Australia by private jet – at least 113 private international flights have landed since April last year, mostly from the United States.

Passengers on private jets include celebrities and other wealthy individuals, business executives on corporate trips and sporting teams such as the charter plane for contestants, families and staff in the World Surf League in March.

Quote:

But the busiest airport for arrivals was Bunbury Airport in Western Australia, with 22 flights - all from the US and all this month.

Too scared to land and be seen at Perth Airport because of the extremely likely and well deserved outrage, eh?

As we've said before (many times)... one rule for "them" and another for the rest of us.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2021 at 12:55am

And the 'hits' just keep on coming...

WA hospital emergency department potentially exposed to COVID-19 during transfer of sick seafarer

https://www.9news.com.au/national/wa-coronavirus-geraldton-hospital-staff-patients-exposed-to-seafarer-after-infection-breach-in-lift/60d8b99e-2e5f-45de-bb6f-6f41f12e7546

Quote:

Dozens of staff, patients and visitors at a regional Western Australian hospital are being directed to get tested for COVID-19 following a breach in infection protocols.
The breach occurred when a Singaporean seafarer was brought to the hospital after being taken off the international bulk carrier, MV Emerald Indah, on Sunday.
The infected crew member spent around three hours in the Emergency Department getting an X-ray and tests.

Well, at least Geraldton is 420km away from Perth so we should be OK here.

Oh, wait... there's more...

Quote:

They later tested positive for COVID-19 and was transferred to a Perth hospital on Monday morning.

Let's hope the protocols at the "Perth hospital" (Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital so I've read in another online article) are 'up to scratch'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:02pm

Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:25pm

Sophia wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:02pm:

Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/

Been like that in Perth all week, Lols.

Rain, rain and more rain (and wind).

Especially last Sunday afternoon and again this afternoon (Friday). Just heard tonight that the worst is to come on Monday.

Our 4 day lockdown ended at 12:01am last Saturday with interim restrictions in place until last Tuesday and lesser restrictions from then until this coming Monday.

From last Saturday:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-03/businesses-stay-closed-as-perth-emerges-from-lockdown/100264840

So, should be back to 'normal' here in Perth from 12:01am Monday (until the next Covid outbreak, of course).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 12:24am

Carl D wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Jul 9^th, 2021 at 11:02pm:

Is WA / Perth still under lockdown because…. maybe good thing…

Has this just happened, some flooding there?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJbo2WS5/

Oh crap! :o and… does that mean we always get your weather 2-4 days later? Maybe I get the alum dingy and oars on the ready?

Geez… we are still fixing the mess here from that horrid once in a 100 years devastating so many trees and houses!

Our fences are still kaput… and a huge mess if fallen trees… too much work … I want to go somewhere calmer. Where’s such a place? Does it exist?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 1:05pm

Man jailed for breaching WA COVID quarantine rules after having tradies work on his house

A Perth man who had tradespeople visit his home when he was meant to be quarantining has been sentenced to seven months in jail for breaching COVID rules.

The 53-year-old arrived at Perth Airport from Brisbane on June 27 and was told to self-isolate for 14 days due to a COVID outbreak in Queensland.

He chose to quarantine at his home in the beachside suburb of Scarborough.

Under the rules, he was not allowed to have visitors, but WA Police say he had tradespeople conduct work at his property.

He also had members of the public come to his house to buy items he listed online for sale.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 1:32pm

Bugger.

I'm sitting here wondering if we'll be able to make it to a family and friends lunch at the Whale+Ale in Clarkson this coming Sunday before we have another lockdown here in Perth.

Just been organized this morning and I'll now be counting down the days (and checking WA's Covid news) until Sunday. We would have already been there by now if it wasn't for our latest lockdown and follow up restrictions.

Oh, and...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 1:05pm:

He chose to quarantine at his home in the beachside suburb of Scarborough.

Seems like the "authorities" all around Australia need to be beaten over the head repeatedly with a big stick that has the words "HOME QUARANTINE DOESN'T WORK" written on it in large letters.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 9:15am

All eight crew members on that boat in Fremantle have tested positive.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 9:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2021 at 9:15am:

All eight crew members on that boat in Fremantle have tested positive.

Yes.

Its a bit of a worrying situation. Especially when Mark McGowan was saying there's a possibility of a 'leak' of the virus into the community if crew members have to be taken off the ship to hospitals.

I'm sure he's just trying to be honest with us but it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence especially when you look at what's happening in the Eastern States right now.

I've noticed he's also limited the people who can reply to his two threads about this on his Twitter account which is something I've never seen him do before (yep, I know he doesn't post these and probably doesn't even read them, same as just about every other politician in the country).

I suppose I can't blame "him" seeing as there's a lot of crazies who usually reply to "his" tweets.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 22^nd, 2021 at 9:23am

How long before our 'luck' runs out here in WA?

Take your pick:

1. COVID quarantine breacher Kyle Stephens sentenced after road trip through regional Western Australia

2. Two more crew members of cargo vessel docked off Perth test positive to COVID-19

3. Queensland man escapes COVID-19 hotel quarantine in Perth using bed sheet rope

4. Coronavirus crisis: Woman allegedly ditches hotel quarantine in Perth CBD

#4 is (once again) particularly worrying. How does someone just "leave" their hotel room and "dine and shop in the Perth CBD"?

Its a bit like the Muppet Show with this Covid crisis, isn't it?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 23^rd, 2021 at 6:52am

Jesus, what an idiot this woman is.

Bunbury hairdresser Sweeney Todd Barber’s Shop asks vaccinated clients to cancel appointments

“For those clients I have still been seeing, I sincerely ask that if you have had the COVID vaccine could you please cancel your appointment as I am no longer comfortable taking on COVID vaccinated people,” the store’s owner Abi Locock wrote.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 23^rd, 2021 at 8:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2021 at 6:52am:

Jesus, what an idiot this woman is.

Bunbury hairdresser Sweeney Todd Barber’s Shop asks vaccinated clients to cancel appointments

Quote:

Sweeney Todd Barber’s Shop recently took to Facebook, asking customers to cancel their appointments if they had received a COVID jab.

Yes, of course... Facebook. ::)

Another idiot like this one back in May.

Quote:

A Queensland business owner is refusing customers who have received a COVID-19 vaccine because of information she discovered on “the rabbit warren of the internet”.

Spending less time in that "rabbit warren" (especially social media) might help.

Quote:

Originally from Melbourne, Adler’s Palm Beach business also provides “crystal healing” and “frequency technology and sound healing for your full mind body hair experience”.

:D :D :D

Quote:

In social media posts, she explained why she made a rule stating “we are not your hairdresser if you have had the COVID vax”.

Social media. ::) ::)

These clowns must "think" the vaccines give you Covid... they probably also "think" people are being injected with microchips so the government can control them (with the 5G towers). ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:58pm

And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

Quote:

Another vessel is on its way to Western Australia with crew members suspected to be infected with COVID-19.

Almost a week after the BBC California docked in the state with 10 infected crew members on board, Premier Mark McGowan said the Darya Krishna alerted authorities that four of its 20 crew members were unwell with respiratory disease symptoms.

Quote:

The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by cods on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 12:07am

you havent had any protesters screaming abuse because they have been told to stay home and stop spreading germs?????>.. lucky you maybe all the loonies live in the East it seems that way at times...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 12:20am

I tell you Cods, Im in WA for a while, I have to say, its great. Its like an isolated island.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 5:14am

cods wrote on Jul 26^th, 2021 at 12:07am:

you havent had any protesters screaming abuse because they have been told to stay home and stop spreading germs?????>.. lucky you maybe all the loonies live in the East it seems that way at times...

We had a bunch of stupid Karens driving around with anti-vax slogans painted on their cars while Gordon's mate in Sydney was punching horses, but that's about it.

Most people here do the right thing, and it's worked out well for us so far.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:56am

"Gladys-level STUPID", indeed.

Yes, call it off now, Mark. Or, move it to somewhere safer.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 9:06am

Carl D wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

"Gladys-level STUPID", indeed.

Yes, call it off now, Mark. Or, move it to somewhere safer.

The word safe was not used often enough in that tweet
I expect the word safe to be used at least 20 times to prove the virtue of the tweeter

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:58pm:

And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

Quote:

[quote]The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.

Just a matter of time before we're in lockdown again here in Perth, I'm predicting it'll be within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be until after my birthday party on August 8th (my birthday is the 5th but we're planning to have the party on Sunday the 8th).

[/quote]

Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

Quote:

wo unvaccinated Western Australia healthcare workers have been put into isolation after a quarantine breach involving three sick crew members from a COVID-riddled ship.
Health Minister Roger Cook said the state had recorded two new COVID-19 cases linked to the Darya Krishna ship docked in Fremantle.
Three crew members were taken to the Fiona Stanley Hospital and tested positive.
Mr Cook said a mechanical fault had resulted in a "disappointing" breach which has required the 14 day isolation of two healthcare workers who entered an unclean lift.

Planes... ships... and now lifts.

"Unclean lift" breach #1

"Unclean lift" breach #2

Maybe they should just use the stairs? ::)

Edit: More on today's "Unclean lift" saga

Quote:

On arrival at the hospital, the crew members were tested for COVID-19 and the results had since shown they were all infected.

The trio were initially kept in negative pressure rooms at FSH’s emergency department and then taken to the intensive care unit via a service lift which is not accessible to the public.

They rode the lift to level one, where ICU is located. The lift then went up to level nine for cleaning and to be ventilated for 30 minutes to reduce the risk of infection.

But within 90 seconds of reaching level nine, the empty lift malfunctioned and started moving due to a “mechanical failure” before it could be cleaned and ventilated.

Two hospital staff — a trainee nurse and a technician — were able to enter the lift on two separate occasions. They were initially told to isolate at home but have now been sent to hotel quarantine.

To compound the double blunder, both healthcare workers had decided they did not want to receive a COVID-19 vaccination, despite being eligible for a Pfizer jab since February.

It could almost be called a comedy if the potential consequences were not so serious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:58pm:

And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

Quote:

[quote]The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.

Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

Quote:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:45pm

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:39pm:

The absolute stupidity behind some of the decisions which are being made, they are putting the covid isolation areas on the top floors of the hospitals. This Cook idiot does not have a clue.

Unbelievable, isn't it?

I've added a bit more to my previous post, btw.

Let's hope the name on the side of the ship isn't an omen (if you remove the C). :o

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:17pm

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:39pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 25^th, 2021 at 11:58pm:

And, here comes another one.

Another ship with possible COVID-infected crew heading to WA

Quote:

[quote]The ship was expected to drop anchor off Fremantle on Monday with a view to docking during the week.

Perth's next lockdown is getting closer and closer.

Unvaccinated hospital workers forced into isolation after WA quarantine breach ("Unclean lift" breach #3).

[quote]wo unvaccinated Western Australia healthcare workers have been put into isolation after a quarantine breach involving three sick crew members from a COVID-riddled ship.
Health Minister Roger Cook said the state had recorded two new COVID-19 cases linked to the Darya Krishna ship docked in Fremantle.
Three crew members were taken to the Fiona Stanley Hospital and tested positive.
Mr Cook said a mechanical fault had resulted in a "disappointing" breach which has required the 14 day isolation of two healthcare workers who entered an unclean lift.

Planes... ships... and now lifts.

"Unclean lift" breach #1

"Unclean lift" breach #2

Maybe they should just use the stairs? ::)

[/quote]The absolute stupidity behind some of the decisions which are being made, they are putting the covid isolation areas on the top floors of the hospitals. This Cook idiot does not have a clue.
[/quote]

I'm so angry about this.

I have no problem with the crew being treated - they must be given the best possible care wherever it's available.

However, everyone saw this coming.

We all knew this was going to backfire, so why didn't Cook and why didn't he make sure we would all be wrong?

He needs to go. Now.

Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.

Agreed.

And, this "technical fault" with the lift is definitely a bit suss.

Was the lift sent to the 9th floor with no-one in it and someone was supposed to meet it there and stop it leaving until it was cleaned and ventilated? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Or, did someone ride with the lift up to the 9th floor and then forgot to 'lock it out' to stop it from leaving that floor?

Unbelievable incompetence. And, don't get me started on unvaccinated health care workers. The State government has been 'dithering' on making vaccination compulsory for them for months now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 27^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Don't put it down as a technical fault with the lifts - that's a cop out.

Those sort of things should have been considered in advance.

He's hopeless - time for Mark to give him the boot.

All they had to do was put some ropes & bollards around the lifts on every floor, with a security guard in attendance, while the patient was being taken up.

Simple, easy to implement, and a good back-up just in case the doors did accidentally open on the wrong floor/s.

Such stupidity. Such incompetence. Unbelievable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Steampipe on Jul 28^th, 2021 at 7:36pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Quote:

But the busiest airport for arrivals was Bunbury Airport in Western Australia, with 22 flights - all from the US and all this month.

I pretty sure Bunbury airport did not get any flight from the US last month and has never in its life had a plane from the US land there.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 5:37am

Getting a bit tired of these football arseholes.

"WA Police have charged Fremantle Dockers assistant coach Josh Carr after he allegedly breached quarantine rules in Perth."

Fremantle Dockers assistant coach Josh Carr charged over alleged quarantine breach in Perth

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:38pm

And... here we go again.

Mark McGowan press conference: WA FIFO worker tests positive to COVID-19 but holds fire on new lockdown

Quote:

Mark McGowan has revealed a FIFO worker has “probably or possibly” been COVID positive in the community in recent weeks.

However, the Premier did not announce that Perth would be plunged into its fourth lockdown of the year.

Mr McGowan said the FIFO worker, a maintenance contractor in his 30s from Fortescue’s Cloudbreak mine site, had returned a “very, very weak” positive test result.

“The suspicion is that he may well have been positive at some point in the community,” Mr McGowan said.

“We don’t know if he’s infectious because, to further complicated matters, this person had been COVID positive back in March and April of last year.”

The FIFO worker was at Perth Airport between 4am and 7am on July 20 at the same time as an infected man who flew from Queensland to WA after completing hotel quarantine.

Encouragingly, that man had the Alpha strain of the virus rather than the much faster spreading Delta variant.

Another lockdown for Perth by this weekend? Anyone? (My guess is YEP!!). ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:50pm

WA and tassie risk being the 2 last places on earth to come to terms with covid.

nsw is on its way.
the marathon has commenced.
their hospitals are learning the processes that will be needed from no on to deal with covid.
how to tweak the system so you can cope, with staff who are not inappropriately quarantined.

qld is learning some lessons.
the 2 prestigous schools that were locked down along with their parents resulted in every paediatric cardiac surgeon in the state being forced to isolate (they must all have kids at these elite schools)
then a mad scramble had to be done to release one for emergency surgery.

eventually, people learn to be pragmatic, they learn to handle the novelty.

this is going to be an absolutley inescapable learning curve for every hospital and health system in australia.

so it good that this is now occuring

and then people will eventually learn to just get on with living .

this will happen last in WA and tassie.

but it has to happen.

when qld,nsw victoria and SA are all opening up (say in december), they will have been blooded . they will be veterans.
they will feel confident they can handle it.

wa and tassie will be trembling virgins and then , whammo, they will get hit and struggle.

the struggle is inevitable.

might as well start learning the skills

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Once the weather warms up, it will miraculously disappear.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:14pm

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?

by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.

WA and Tassie will be totally out of sync with the rest of the world.

my prediction is we will never again see the eastern states able to prevent some community spread

and that will become the reality for WA in november

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:14pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?

by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.

which is exactly what was predicted, allow the virus to spread like you advocated and it mutates, which is exactly what it has done. Now you are admitting it is a concern, thats a step in the right direction, just listen to your intellectual superiors next time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:14pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

Its just the sniffles, remember?

by delaying we have inherited the delta which is more of a threat.

but delay is now rather silly.

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

we will have to learn the lessons of personal responsibility whilst facing a much bigger challenge.

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:12pm:

Once the weather warms up, it will miraculously disappear.

Yep, its going to be 22 degrees here in Perth on Friday which is the warmest its been here in what seems like forever so we should be OK. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:55pm:

me thinks you will care when delta hits, which it most certainly will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUGZwlLoZh0

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:27pm

.....

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:28pm

Anyway... I hope I can have my birthday party this Sunday before we're in another lockdown (my birthday is tomorrow but the party is on Sunday because one of the attendees is working tomorrow).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

Rubbish, quite often it is appropriate to slow things down and make a plan on how to deal with that particular emergency. In fact anyone who has had training in emergency response has been taught exactly that, slow down, make a plan, appoint commander(s) etc.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

Do you also walk around town barefoot in a soiled toga holding a lamp?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:10pm

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

not if you spend 18 months making that plan ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

Population

- Sweden: 10 million

- Australia: 25 million

COVID cases

- Sweden: 1,101,900

- Australia: 35,086

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Active Cases

- Sweden: 10,639

- Australia: 3,762

Did you study maths in year nine?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

they were all at the start and nearly all elderly.

now we have to face up to the fact we are going to have a spread of delta which targets younger people.

our deaths are in the future.

we will pay a higher price for our inertia

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

they were all at the start and nearly all elderly.

You really are a horrible, horrible little man.

Just to recap:

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620

- Australia: 927

Less than half our population, yet almost 16 times the death count.

You really are are an incredibly stupid, ignorant, ageist prick (who obviously never studied maths in primary school).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

it's summer in Sweden. Thing always improve over the summer

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:10pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

not if you spend 18 months making that plan ;D ;D ;D ;D

How would you know? You dont have any experience at dealing with emergencies.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:18pm

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:10pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

when something "comes at you in life", delay in facing it usually results in that thing getting stronger and you getting weaker

not if you spend 18 months making that plan ;D ;D ;D ;D

How would you know? You dont have any experience at dealing with emergencies.

he helped a horse that got stuck once ..... does that count?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

they were all at the start ...

Nope.

100% wrong, yet again.

The majority of deaths have been in the last eight months.

How many times can you be wrong in one day? I'm curious.

COVID Deaths

- Sweden: 14,620 (population 10 million)

- Australia: 927 (population 25 million)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:21pm

aquas a know all dikhed who has never done anything, thats his problem. Considers actually researching a subject before claiming to know everything about it wasted effort by his own account.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:21pm

....

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:32pm

rhino wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

aquas a know all dikhed who has never done anything, thats his problem. Considers actually researching a subject before claiming to know everything about it wasted effort by his own account.

Everything he claims to be true is actually the exact opposite of the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZg9DCunHEk

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 11:24am

WA couple returning from Victoria fined for breaching quarantine with four-hour pub session

On Monday, a WA couple was fined $1,500 and released after spending 15 days in custody for failing to quarantine upon returning from a locked-down Victoria last month.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Agatha on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 7:20pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

sweden did not face the delta variant in the first year as they learnt to tame the beast.

still spruiking the same crap no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong

less deaths in sweden today then oz

and awesome freedom to live a rich life, as opposed to cowering in a corner.

they were all at the start ...

It's not over yet.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

Guess who's at it again?

Why am I not surprised Clive is another anti vaxxer nutter? And, he's obviously still p****d off with WA and our Premier, Mark McGowan.

Clive Palmer vaccination threat: Mark McGowan blasts billionaire over ‘terrible’ idea

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/clive-palmer-vaccination-threat-mark-mcgowan-blasts-billionaire-over-terrible-idea-ng-b881963716z

Quote:

This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.

Yes, of course. But, as usual... yours truly is still buying The West Australian at the shops every day so here it is... I wonder if Clive can make an even bigger fool of himself than he already has? (I'm sure he can).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

flip... and... Clive's STILL an idiot with too much spare time (and money) on his hands.

Oh, is he also threatening all of the other States with lawsuits over their vaccine rollouts? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:47pm

Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:50pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.

If anyone deserved to get covid it's that fat fool

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:50pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 10^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

This article is available to subscribers who have digital access included in their subscription.

If anyone deserved to get covid it's that fat fool

It would kill him too.

Thoughts & prayers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 8:34pm

Looks like he's a real sucker for punishment.

Clive Palmer says he will sue over WA's mandatory vaccination requirement for travellers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754

Quote:

Queensland businessman Clive Palmer says he will launch a High Court challenge to Western Australia's plan to make people from high-risk states show they have had at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccination before entering the state.

He's also been putting his stupid yellow ads in The West Australian again over the past week or two... not full page ones thank goodness, just smaller ones at the bottom of the front page which is bad enough. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 8:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!

From what I've read the past few days the AFL players will not be allowed to bring their wives or girlfriends or any other family to Perth if the Grand Final is held here and Mr. McGowan may also be insisting that all players have been vaccinated.

Hopefully, with conditions like that the AFL will give it to another State instead of WA if the game cannot be played at the MCG.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 8:45pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 8:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:47pm:

Sh1t!

It looks like McGowan is supporting the push to have the GayFL grand final played here in Perth.

FFS, NO!

We don't want them here!!!

From what I've read the past few days the AFL players will not be allowed to bring their wives or girlfriends or any other family to Perth if the Grand Final is held here ...

One would hope that goes without saying.

McGowan better get tough on this - we don't want them here!!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 17^th, 2021 at 6:21pm

I accompanied a friend who was getting her first Pfizer jab at the new Perth Convention Centre Clinic today.

From the minute she walked in the door until the time she walked out, 35 minutes in total.

And that includes the 15 minute wait in the post-jab area.

Can't complain about that.

Took me about the same at the Claremont Showgrounds jabby place.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 17^th, 2021 at 7:23pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 16^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

I wonder if the feds will help him with this law suit as well :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 9:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2021 at 6:21pm:

I arrived 45 minutes early for my first 'jab' at the vaccination hub near Perth Domestic Airport on June 17th and went in straight away, I ended up walking out about 20 minutes before my actual appointment time (11:30am) even with the 15 minute wait after the 'jab' because they were so quiet that day.

I'm guessing my second appointment for September 13th at Claremont Showgrounds might take a bit longer probably due to more people making bookings for the vaccines especially after they've seen what's happening in NSW at the moment.

I'm going to ask my 91 year old aunt's GP today about her second Covid vaccination because she's due for it and we haven't heard anything yet, they didn't make a second appointment for her when she had the first 'jab' in mid May.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 9:54am

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

I wonder if the feds will help him with this law suit as well :D :D

Surely ScoMo isn't that stupid, is he? Oh, wait.... silly question.

But, I did read somewhere recently (may have been in our West Australian newspaper) that the Federal government won't be backing Clive on this which isn't surprising seeing as they want to get as many people vaccinated as soon as possible.

Oh, here's Clive's ad which was in yesterday's paper at the bottom of the front page, he's been running them for the past few weeks... most of them were about border closures costing jobs, etc. but this is a new one.

Yes, Clive, I'll actually agree with you this time... WA does need more hospitals (and the doctors, nurses and staff to run them).

Maybe Clive should pay for some of those things instead of wasting his money on stupid lawsuits and ads in the paper?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 12:20pm

Agreement reached on purpose-built quarantine facility in WA

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The Commonwealth and Western Australian Government have today reached an agreement to move forward with the delivery of a 1,000 bed purpose-built quarantine and emergency response facility in the state.

Under the agreement, the Commonwealth will fund the construction of the facility and the Western Australian Government will operate the facility and meet operational costs during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Quote:

Planning for the facility aims to secure the first 500 beds being ready by the end of March 2022.

Well, its finally a step in the right direction but I'm hoping we're not in the same situation (or worse) as NSW by the end of next March. That's a LONG time to wait.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 12:24pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 12:20pm:

Agreement reached on purpose-built quarantine facility in WA

Quote:

[quote]Planning for the facility aims to secure the first 500 beds being ready by the end of March 2022.

Well, its finally a step in the right direction but I'm hoping we're not in the same situation (or worse) as NSW by the end of next March. That's a LONG time to wait.[/quote]

They building it next to the Jandakot Spudshed? :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm

Even though I have tickets for it, I hope McGowan cancels the Bledisloe Cup scheduled for Saturday week.

I'll be pretty disappointed with him if he doesn't.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:37pm

Idiots from all over this wide brown land would try to get there!

Piss off! Said idiots would have to drive through SA! We are doing OK thans very much, don’t want brainless idiots bringing COVID here!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:45pm

Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:45pm:

Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.

you might get morons with yachts trying to bypass the lockdown :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:56pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:45pm:

Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.

you might get morons with yachts trying to bypass the lockdown :D

Yep.

Despite having two shots of Pfizer Comirnaty in me, I'm laying low that weekend.

I don't trust anyone.

Plus, metal objects keep sticking to me when I get close to 5G towers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 8:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:56pm:

Plus, metal objects keep sticking to me when I get close to 5G towers.

Watch out for those weaponised 5G bats, Greg... probably more dangerous than swooping magpies at this time of year. :o

Where's Sir Nail? I'm surprised he hasn't been on to this already. :D :D ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 11:55pm

And, what do we have here?

Plane load of detainees from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone flown to Western Australia

Quote:

While the ABC has been told a plane load of Villawood detention centre detainees and guards had been moved from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone to Western Australia in an early-morning operation, Australian Border Force will not say why.

Quote:

The ABC understands the group boarded a large passenger jet, which later stopped in Melbourne to pick up another detainee.

By then, there were 72 detainees and guards on board.

"For each detainee, we had two other officers that were assigned to us," Mr Basa said.

"So, although we were secured, we still had to have two other officers sitting either side of us and [we were] handcuffed the entire time, for over 17 hours."

Upon arrival in Perth, Mr Basa said he was swabbed before being taken into a quarantine facility inside the Yongah Hill detention centre at Northam, which is just under 100km north-east of Perth.

He said he was still in the dark as to why he and the others had been moved across the country.

Yet another gamble with Covid... which up until now has 'won' nearly every time - here in Australia and worldwide.

Been reading rumours that the Federal government needs Villawood emptied for refugees coming from Afghanistan... no-one knows at this stage.

And...

Quote:

The Premier of Western Australia, Mark McGowan, said he was not told about the transfer.

Quote:

Northam Shire President Chris Antonio said he was angry not to have been told about the detainee transfer.

I'll bet Mark is pretty angry as well.

Hope there's an explanation coming... and soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by goosecat on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:59am

Carl D wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 11:55pm:

And, what do we have here?

Plane load of detainees from Sydney's COVID-19 red zone flown to Western Australia

Quote:

[quote]The ABC understands the group boarded a large passenger jet, which later stopped in Melbourne to pick up another detainee.

By then, there were 72 detainees and guards on board.

"For each detainee, we had two other officers that were assigned to us," Mr Basa said.

"So, although we were secured, we still had to have two other officers sitting either side of us and [we were] handcuffed the entire time, for over 17 hours."

Upon arrival in Perth, Mr Basa said he was swabbed before being taken into a quarantine facility inside the Yongah Hill detention centre at Northam, which is just under 100km north-east of Perth.

He said he was still in the dark as to why he and the others had been moved across the country.

The Premier of Western Australia, Mark McGowan, said he was not told about the transfer.

Quote:

Northam Shire President Chris Antonio said he was angry not to have been told about the detainee transfer.

I'll bet Mark is pretty angry as well.

Hope there's an explanation coming... and soon.[/quote]
Well if you want to force everyone to learn to live with it as soon as possible and "reopen"as soon as possible, whilst dealing with states not following that program, just find as many ways possible to increase the chances of "accidentally" infecting the recalcitrant states. ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 2:10pm

A Victorian woman slapped with a suspended jail term and criminal record for having a picnic with her dying father while subject to quarantine rules has won an appeal to have her sentence reduced.

A Victorian woman slapped with a suspended jail term and criminal record for having a picnic with her dying father while subject to quarantine rules has won an appeal to have her sentence reduced.

“The appellant was 49 years of age at the time of the offending, with outstanding antecedents, and she lawfully entered Western Australia after making all necessary inquiries and applications to enter with permission to visit her dying elderly father,” he said.

“The appellant understood that she was permitted to visit her father at the hospital. That was so until her father, a patient in palliative care, was transferred to the second hospital.

“The appellant had a negative COVID-19 test result on day two of her self-quarantine ... [and] was actively meeting her obligations.”

The woman is the fourth person to successfully appeal their jail sentence for breaching quarantine laws in WA.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/victorian-woman-given-jail-term-for-visiting-dying-father-in-wa-wins-appeal-20210818-p58jrf.html

So if you are not up go speed on the arcane rules - you are ok with the rules until we move your dad to another hospital, and then you are no longer ok - you get sentenced to jail time which you can, for now and in our infinite mercy, appeal.

The WA CMO, like Allah, is all-knowing, merciful.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 5:11pm

Goose wrote on Aug 19^th, 2021 at 11:59am:

Well if you want to force everyone to learn to live with it as soon as possible and "reopen"as soon as possible, whilst dealing with states not following that program, just find as many ways possible to increase the chances of "accidentally" infecting the recalcitrant states. ;)

And, if that doesn't get WA to join 'Covid Club Australia' then the AFL just might.

AFL grand final: Perth parade touted as part of WA’s pitch to bring football showpiece to Optus Stadium

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A grand final parade through the Perth CBD has formed part of WA’s official pitch to secure the AFL showpiece.

The league has drawn up contingency plans to move the game from its traditional home in Victoria amid the substantial pandemic crisis playing out on Australia’s east coast as we near the finals period.

WA is one government asked by AFL powerbrokers to pitch for the decider, given the likelihood it will be moved away from Melbourne where a COVID curfew is in place until at least September 2.

This has placed Perth’s Optus Stadium in a prime position to host the big match, and even a “festival” of finals football over multiple weekends, according to The West Australian.

The WA Government’s pitch is also said to have touted St Georges Terrace as a potential host for a spectacular Melbourne-like grand final parade.

Morons.

Here's the front page of today's West Australian.

"IT MAY BE MORE THAN GRAND FINAL COMING TO WA"

They've got that right... Covid could be coming as well and before you know it we'll be just like New South Wales and Victoria.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 20^th, 2021 at 4:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Even though I have tickets for it, I hope McGowan cancels the Bledisloe Cup scheduled for Saturday week.

I'll be pretty disappointed with him if he doesn't.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2021 at 7:45pm:

Whether it goes ahead or not, I'm not going (despite having tickets).

I decided that weeks ago.

I don't wanna be in a stadium with who knows how many anti-vaxxers and anti-mask morons.

Its been cancelled (by New Zealand).

Rugby Australia blindsided after New Zealand pulls out of third Bledisloe Cup Test in Perth because of COVID-19

Quote:

Rugby Australia (RA) claims it has been blindsided by New Zealand Rugby's (NZR) decision not to send the All Blacks to Perth to play the third Bledisloe Cup Test.

The Rugby Championship fixture, scheduled for August 28, was thrown into chaos by New Zealand's announcement on Friday, which RA called a "unilateral decision".

The All Blacks were initially scheduled to fly to Perth on Sunday in preparation for the Test.

But with New Zealand in lockdown with rising COVID-19 cases and the uncertainty around the schedule, NZR decided not to send the All Blacks squad.

Quote:

RA said it would work through alternative dates for the match to still be played in Perth, with close to 60,000 tickets already sold for the match.

It is believed the West Australian government was set to allow the All Blacks into the state, provided they arrived seven days before the match and completed "soft" quarantine, as interstate AFL teams currently do.

"Soft quarantine"? WTF? Even 14 days probably isn't long enough from what we've seen since the start of the pandemic, thank goodness its been cancelled.

Now all we need to worry about is the AFL.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:04pm

FFS ::)

Perth confirmed to host AFL grand final if MCG unavailable

"Optus Stadium will host the 2021 AFL grand final if coronavirus outbreaks and lockdowns force league heavyweights to abandon its traditional home the MCG."

Piss off! We don't want you here >:(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:04pm:

not everyone is a chode.

some people like to test their athleticism in the arena.

they are sporting "heroes"

i have never heard of a fattie watching netflix being referred to as a hero

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:25pm

Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?

At least you can't catch Covid from watching the game on TV, can you? Oh, wait... the 5G conspiracy nutters might be on to that soon if they're not already.

"Covid mind control signals are being beamed directly into your living room via your TV" :D :D

Now, where's Sir Nail today? ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:48pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:25pm:

Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?

Probably, yeah.

Still not good though.

We don't want the teams and their entourages from the east coming here.

It's absolute madness.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 6:11pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25^th, 2021 at 5:25pm:

Wonder what will happen if we have another Covid outbreak and lockdown just before the Grand Final?

Will the game be played in an empty Optus Stadium?

Actually, no.

That dill, Gill, said he won't hold a grand final without a crowd.

Just cancel the bloody thing already then.

FFS, it's just a game.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:18pm

How will Delta get to WA?

My guess is the AFL Grand Final will be the culprit.

Apparently a bunch of AFL people were given travel exceptions and allowed into Perth this morning ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:27pm

“He will make sure that COVID won’t come to Perth and if it does, he will go straight back into lockdown. That’s exactly why we don’t have any cases.”

‘Hard to fault it’: Life inside fortress WA

It’s not even noon and Oliver Tallis is already run off his feet. Customers line up along his cafe counter and every table is busy with digital nomads and parents with young children.

In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:27pm:

hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, ;D ;D ;D

WA will end up a laughing stock

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:27pm:

hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, ;D ;D ;D

WA will end up a laughing stock

Hermits? ;D

"In sun-kissed Scarborough, a coastal suburb of Perth, it feels like the weekend has come in early. Dozens of surfers crowd the beach. Couples walk the dog down the promenade and children shriek in the playgrounds.

"The only reminders of the coronavirus pandemic are the mandatory check-in QR codes and bottles of unused hand sanitiser on the counter. There are no crowd restrictions, no two-square-metre rule, no face masks."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:42pm

AFL grand final crowds could still be banned in WA if COVID outbreak occurs, emergency chief says

Quote:

WA will not hesitate to ban crowds from an AFL grand final in the event of a COVID scare, the state's emergency coordinator says.

But the AFL has all but ruled out allowing the game to go ahead in an empty stadium, preferring to postpone or relocate it.

Relocate it NOW would probably be the best option.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:48pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:42pm:

AFL grand final crowds could still be banned in WA if COVID outbreak occurs, emergency chief says

Quote:

Relocate it NOW would probably be the best option.

Yep.

Relocate to Christmas Island.

Don't come here!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:27pm:

hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, ;D ;D ;D

WA will end up a laughing stock

its 1941 and the japanese have just started to cross the kokoda track

the PM rings WA.

would you like to join us in confronting this threat. the rest of the nation recognises lives will be lost but we also recognise that a threat gets bigger the longer you ignore it.

the premier of WA responds "no thanks, we think the best thing to do about the japanese is to hide in our bedrooms and , hopefully, they will never get here"

cowardly, unpatriotic, selfish ,

WA are not behaving as "real" australians and the other states will not forget this when future crisis arise (which they will), :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:18pm:

How will Delta get to WA?

My guess is the AFL Grand Final will be the culprit.

Apparently a bunch of AFL people were given travel exceptions and allowed into Perth this morning ::)

Yep, that would be my guess too.

Because, if there's one thing we've learnt over the past 18 months its how good some of these sports "stars" are at complying with Covid rules and quarantine, etc. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:49pm:

its 1941 and the japanese have just started to cross the kokoda track

Really? Are you sure about that? Did this also happen in the alternate reality of 'aquaworld'?

(Hint: When did the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor?)

Anyway... go away... the grown ups are trying to have a conversation here. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 2:06pm

Western Australia provides update on possibility of hosting AFL grand final

Quote:

West Australian Police Commissioner Chris Dawson says the state will wait for the AFL to make a decision on whether the grand final can be held at the MCG before committing to host the 2021 decider in Perth.

On Wednesday, the AFL announced that Optus Stadium would be its first-choice venue if holding the game at the MCG proved unfeasible amid Melbourne’s Covid-19 outbreak.

However, as the league is yet to determine whether the game needs relocating from Melbourne, Western Australia has not signed off on welcoming the code for the decider on September 25.

“We are not yet at a point where we’ve made a decision,” Dawson told ABC Perth on Thursday.

“We have not made a decision because the AFL has not yet made a decision, they have to make a decision themselves.”

Dawson said the state would not host the game at the expense of the health and safety of West Australians.

At least we're smart enough not to have 'signed on the dotted line' just yet.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 3:01pm

From the NSW thread

But also relevant here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 3:41pm

WA upset by potential change to Qantas international flights

Qantas has flagged it could make a major change when flights to the UK eventually resume, and WA Premier Mark McGowan is not happy.

Quote:

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has hit back at a suggestion by Qantas that Perth may lose its status as a transit hub for flights to London due to WA’s notoriously strict border rules.

Qantas has unveiled its expectation for the return of overseas flights, which are slated for mid-December if Australia hits the 80 per cent vaccination rate needed to trigger the reopening of our international border.

The UK, Singapore, Japan, the US and Canada are among the destinations with high vaccination rates that Qantas expects to fly to first.

With flights to the UK expected to be especially popular, Qantas said it was considering using Darwin as a transit point for non-stop services to London, which before the pandemic, took off and landed at Perth.

Cry me a river, Alan Joyce.

After your little 'dummy spit' here and Jayne Hrdlicka from Virgin's stupid comment back in May its blatantly obvious what the #1 priority is for both of you (hint: it isn't the health and welfare of ordinary Australians).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 3:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 1:27pm:

hermits, social outcasts, agarophobics, ;D ;D ;D

WA will end up a laughing stock

You mean unarmed Australians just all didnt rush to Kokoda without any plan or SMEAC and full of good intentions about confronting the Japanese and hoping to win without any resources,weapons or plans? So why do you think thats what we should do with Covid? Our forebearers werent that stupid, why should we be?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 4:15pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

Good call by Qantas. If travel opens between Australia and the UK, but not between WA and the rest of Australia then bypassing Perth is the obvious and sensible thing to do.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 6:31pm

According to ABC

WA COVID scare as NSW truck drivers test positive while in community

Two trucks drivers who travelled to Western Australian from New South Wales have tested positive to COVID-19 after going to several sites across WA.

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

The two men have been taken by ambulance to a hotel in Perth to self-isolate and quarantine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

Yep, just saw that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/nsw-truck-drivers-test-positive-for-covid-in-wa/100412490

Quote:

Two trucks drivers who travelled to Western Australian from New South Wales have tested positive to COVID-19 after going to several sites across WA.

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

The two men have been taken by ambulance to a hotel in Perth to self-isolate and quarantine.

More to come.

Hopefully its just another Covid 'scare' but with any luck the AFL Grand Final will be moved somewhere else instead of Optus Stadium here in Perth.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

Yep, just saw that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/nsw-truck-drivers-test-positive-for-covid-in-wa/100412490

Quote:

Hopefully its just another Covid 'scare' but with any luck the AFL Grand Final will be moved somewhere else instead of Optus Stadium here in Perth.

Yep.

Fingers crossed, this will stop the grand final being held here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:05pm

If these truck drivers end up causing another Covid outbreak and another lockdown then it will be time for some serious questions to be asked.

Like why on earth are truck drivers being allowed to just drive into WA from NSW which has been a Covid 'basket case' for over 2 months now without being tested before leaving NSW and again when they get here?

Oh...

Edit:

Quote:

The NSW Department of Health confirmed they had the virus after they had arrived in Perth.

Bit late, eh? Why were they allowed to leave NSW when they obviously had concerns about having Covid if they were tested?

Essential workers? What a load of BS. Covid doesn't know or care about the difference between "essential workers" and everyone else.

Planes... ships... trucks... its almost like "someone" wants to see a major Covid outbreak here in WA to divert attention away from the incompetence of Gladys Berejiklian (and Scott Morrison).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:36pm

Scene: A Covid testing clinic somewhere in New South Wales, two interstate truck drivers enter.

Truck Drivers: "Hi, we've both had a cough and a bit of a runny nose for the past few days and we'd like to get tested for Covid"

Testing Official: "Come right this way, gentlemen, this will only take a few minutes"

5 minutes later...

Testing Official: "There you go, all done. Now, the results will take a day or two to come back but in the meantime make sure you isolate yourselves at home or some other suitable location"

Truck Drivers (winking to each other): "No wucking furries"

1 minute later:

Closing scene (at least for NSW) outside testing clinic:

Truck Drivers (in unison): Nah, stuff it... ROAD TRIP TO PERTH TIME!!!!!!!

You couldn't make this stuff up...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:39pm

If its the Delta strain then its all over.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:47pm

rhino wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.

Unless it's transmissible to marsupials and it mulls around there on the alien highway for a few years, then... y'know...

Fox Mulder, Spielberg... if you're listening...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:04pm

rhino wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

I take that back after reading the article, looks like they only stopped to refuel at 2 men and a dog towns and slept the night in their truck cab. WA may have dodged a bullet again.

Only a matter of time though.

Stock up on toilet paper ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:15pm

Apparently interstate truck drivers are regularly tested for Covid from what I was reading a short time ago but obviously the system is flawed if this sort of thing happens.

A recent suggestion is for interstate trucks to change drivers at the border before entering WA but that would probably be difficult (and expensive) to implement.

But, not as expensive as the cost of lockdowns, I'm sure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:21pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

nah ... truck drivers are getting their results back in a matter of hours. Of course it 's only a preliminary result and their tests are sent away for further analysis which then takes longer. If preliminary comes back negative they're free to cross the border but must minimise contact by sleeping in cab and waiting in the cab whilst dock workers at the delivery point unload

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:25pm

Thanks, John.

Yep, hopefully things will be OK.

Mark McGowan (or more likely his 'social media team') is keeping everyone up to date here:

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Seems like these 2 truck drivers were doing the right things, at least - sleeping in their truck and wearing masks when outside. Good to see.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 10:27pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 8:15pm:

Trailer exchange parks—only the trailer goes interstate.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 9:20am

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 27^th, 2021 at 10:27pm:

Trailer exchange parks—only the trailer goes interstate.

Yep, that would be best at this stage. Hope something like that can be organised soon.

The "heard it on Facebook" crowd are at it again but I have to wonder if there might at least be a grain of truth in this one seeing as the AFL Grand Final could be played here at Optus Stadium and I'm sure the State government and AFL wouldn't want a major Delta outbreak here right now which may cause the game to be cancelled or played with no crowd.

The other ongoing issue is the crisis condition of WA's hospitals and health system which would be overwhelmed with a Covid outbreak just like what's happening in NSW.

We'll see what happens next week.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:13pm

Front page of today's West Australian.

Question: What "home essentials" does Harvey Norman sell? Last time I checked they didn't sell food, drink, toilet paper (lol), medicines or other medical products.

Anyone?

Anyone except aqua, that is... I already know what his answer will be... "a new big screen TV for Fat Steve and Fat Janeen to watch during Covid lockdowns". :P

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:18pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:13pm:

Front page of today's West Australian.

Question: What "Home Essentials" does Harvey Norman sell? Last time I checked they didn't sell food, drink, toilet paper (lol), medicines or other medical products.

Anyone?

Anyone except aqua, that is... I already know what his answer will be... "a new big screen TV for Fat Steve and Fat Janeen to watch during Covid lockdowns". :P

Yes.

I guess that because they sell phones and tablets, which can be used as tools to keep in contact with family and friends, they are deemed "essential".

Anyway, I'm pissed off about the two truck drivers.

I assume they have the Goodrem variety of COVID.

So, why aren't we in lockdown?

Simple answer - the AFL has McGowan's balls in a vice.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

TVs , washing machines, ovens, microwaves, all essential items for most people, thats just the way it is.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:25pm

rhino wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

TVs , washing machines, ovens, microwaves, all essential items for most people, thats just the way it is.

True.

Don't buy from them though - they treat their employees like sh!t.

Well, more so than most employers.

JB's are no better.

Good Guys is the preferred option.

Not that they're that great either.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm

People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:32pm

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

One can live without a coffee table and popcorn maker, surely.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:32pm

Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-confirmed-cases

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

Ah yes, Perth.

Where we have no restrictions, no requirement to wear a mask, and are free to gather in crowds as large as we like wherever we like.

How's it working out for you over east?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:35pm

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

The "we don't want a major Covid outbreak here" mindset is probably the strongest of all in WA right now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

Give it 2 weeks, turd.

It's coming your way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:36pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

People still move, need furniture, appliances break down and need to be replaced.

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

The "we don't want a major Covid outbreak here" mindset is probably the strongest of all in WA right now.

Yeah, because other people really wanted it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-confirmed-cases

FFS ::)

Why are we letting these people in?

And that truck yard in Kenwick - I have an associate whom I buy guitars from who lives right near that.

I won't be visiting him for a while.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:40pm

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:31pm:

The Stasi/KGB mind-set seems particularly strong in Perth.

Give it 2 weeks, turd.

It's coming your way.

Two weeks?

I'm expecting it within the next two hours.

And I'm deadly serious.

Delta is here - it's only a matter of time before we go back into lockdown.

Until then though, I'll enjoy the freedom afforded to me by McGowan's tough lockdown policy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Couple of pictures I took at Zone Bowling in Cannington this afternoon when I popped in there with my aunt on our way back from Gosnells Railway Markets.

Wouldn't be able to take pictures like this in Sydney or Melbourne right now because all the bowling centres (and all other entertainment venues) are closed due to lockdowns.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:32pm:

Bit of a worry looking at this as well. Especially the flights from overseas.

https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Locations-visited-by-confirmed-cases

FFS ::)

Why are we letting these people in?

And that truck yard in Kenwick - I have an associate whom I buy guitars from who lives right near that.

I won't be visiting him for a while.

What's going on here?

Quote:

Advice for passengers on flights with a confirmed case of COVID-19
Close contacts
People seated in the same row as the case, the two rows in front, and the two rows behind should:

Self-quarantine at home for 14 days
Seek immediate attention if symptoms develop
For more information refer to Self-quarantine in Western Australia to prevent the spread of COVID-19 (PDF 184KB).

I thought ALL overseas arrivals were supposed to go into hotel quarantine (as inadequate as it is) for 14 days, not quarantine at home?

No wonder we're sitting on a Covid 'time bomb'. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:40pm:

I'll enjoy the freedom afforded to me by McGowan's tough lockdown policy.

Turd to the end. :D :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:17pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

yeah

and in 6 months, the boys in sydney will be kicking back with a beer as WA goes into its 5th lockdown because your premier has amped up the anxiety to the point, the whole state will poop its pants when they get a couple of cases.

your hour of being a laughing stock is rapidly approaching

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Wanna make a bet?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Our 5th lockdown will probably only happen due to the incompetence I've mentioned in my previous post.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 9:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Wanna make a bet?

how many people in WA
2 1/2 million?

you get to 70 % vax (that will be hard without the covid blowtorch)

thats still 900,000 un vaxed.

and from what we see in isreal, they are lining up for number 3 vax as cases rise.

so maybe over a million cases.

delta is SOOOO contagious, you are going to have 1/2 a million cases next year.

if you lock down every time you get a few cases, you'll be locking down forever, so that wont happen,

especially when the rest of OZ is over it.

but say you get 1/2 a million cases next year or even over the next 2 years.

at 10 % hospitalisation thats 50,000 admissions.

see, if you are like most of the rest of the world , its over pretty quick.

but if you draw it out, you have old people in hospital for weeks, 50,000 of them
you will paralyse your hospital system for years, instead of for a few months.

most countries end up with about the same number of deaths.

some have them quick and some draw it out but you wont get away without 1000's of deaths.

that is impossible.

you will hust have many lockdowns, a demolished health system.
you will waste your entire health budget on 85 yo who you will never wean off the ventilator and who probably shouldnt have been admitted in the first place.

look at india, it had a bit of pain for a month or 2 , now its all over. its back playing test cricket.

all WA is doing is slowly slwoly slwoly ripping off ther band aid.

you premier cannot protect you from delta

that is not possible

you are going to have many admissions, much chaos and much mayhem.

better to just get on with it , rather then be the only place on earth still pooping your pants next year, whilst everyone else is kicking back with a beer, rolling their eyes at you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 9:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 7:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Wanna make a bet?

Yeah, let's make a bet, turd. You will dishonour it like you dishonoured every bet. Dishonour is what you do, turd. That's why you are tagged a turd. You'd die before you would be honest and honourable. You get that trait from your dad, Bbwian. A family thing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:09am

Reading this article this morning about WA.
Does this sound a bit harsh or extreme?

http://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/why-doctors-believe-wa-s-new-extreme-border-rules-torture-vulnerable-people-20210827-p58mjb.html

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Sophia wrote on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:09am:

The problem I have with this is the exemptions given to sporting clubs.

People can't travel here for compassionate reasons, but if some footballers from New Zealand and Victoria want to come here to play some silly game they're ushered right in.

Not good.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 11:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Sophia wrote on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:09am:

This has been a problem everywhere. Sports players, millionaires and movie stars getting special treatment.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 12:10pm

Sophia wrote on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 10:09am:

Yes, Lols, it is harsh and extreme.

But, what's the alternative? End up like NSW with 149 deaths so far (and counting) and out of control cases?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 12:13pm

From a WA reader:
McGowan's continuous uneducated attacks on Gladys Berejiklian and the NSW liberal government policy of ‘get the jab’ as the best solution to the Delta variant reveals much about his own Government’s policy failures. He inherited an economy that was at the start on a mining boom. The political pain, as a result of some very hard community infrastructure decisions, was already borne by the previous Barnett liberal government but McGowan has done nothing to capitalize on it. The ineptitude handling of the lack of resources in the hospital system is why he keeps the borders shut. When Delta comes to WA it will be a disaster to his personal ratings, nothing else matters to him. Lowest vaccination rates in Australia especially in the vulnerable indigenous communities. Mental health of those unable to have loved ones cross the border will be around for years to come. Industry pleading for workers to allowed in to pick the crops or even just keep the cafe doors open has fatigue and resulting accidents a real threat. Does he care, answer no.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Aug 30^th, 2021 at 12:39pm

dont tell rhino but iron ore prices are down 45 %.

WA is rooted

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:00pm

FFS, the grand final is being played here ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:00pm:

FFS, the grand final is being played here ::)

*sigh*

Well, at least I should have had my second Covid vaccination before then and my aunt had her second one last week so at least we can stock up on toilet rolls and 'bunker down' if there's a Covid outbreak and lockdown as a result of this.

Let's see if Mark lives up to his 'promise' of not letting wives, girlfriends and other assorted 'hangers on' come here for the game (not like what Annastacia has done with the NRL in Queensland).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:59pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31^st, 2021 at 7:00pm:

FFS, the grand final is being played here ::)

I can tell you that if he lets the WAGS in, he'll lose my vote at the next election.

There's just no need for it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 1^st, 2021 at 8:08pm

This grand final is going to be a disaster for us.

There's going to be a parade, and the stadium is going to be filled to capacity.

Absolute insanity.

Then again, Delta is going to come to Perth sooner or later so at least we'll be ready for it I suppose.

All those panic buyers out there should stock up on toilet paper just before the grand final, because a week or two after the extremely boring game we're going into lock-down. Nothing surer.

Interestingly, I heard that Eddie McGuire isn't allowed to come to Perth for the grand final.

Not sure why, but it seems weird.

Maybe he's an anti-vaxxer :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am

Josh Frydenberg warns WA Delta will seep across its borders ‘within a week or a month’

Quote:

Josh Frydenberg has warned WA that Delta will inevitably seep across its borders soon — ‘whether it’s a week or whether it’s a month’ — and the State better be prepared.

Quote:

Mark McGowan has accused the Federal Government of being “on a mission” to infect Western Australians with COVID.

Yep, sure sounds like that to me (and probably most West Australians as well). Probably just so Scotty from Marketing and his 'puppet' Gladys in NSW can say "I told you so...".

Quote:

“If the borders remain shut and if all states don’t follow the plan, jobs will be lost, businesses will close, the wellbeing of Australians will suffer, our debt burden will increase and our recovery will be slowed,” Mr Frydenberg said.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 9:25am

Well, we might be 'stuck' with the AFL Grand Final and its potential Covid consequences but at least we can have a good laugh at poor old Eddie.

The front page of yesterday's West Australian. ;D

Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if he does end up coming here anyway. ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 9:26am

"Obviously the AFL has essential people, Mr. McGuire was not one of them".

- Mark McGowan.

Never a truer word spoken.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:25pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Josh Frydenberg warns WA Delta will seep across its borders ‘within a week or a month’

Quote:

Josh Frydenberg has warned WA that Delta will inevitably seep across its borders soon — ‘whether it’s a week or whether it’s a month’ — and the State better be prepared.

[quote]Mark McGowan has accused the Federal Government of being “on a mission” to infect Western Australians with COVID.

Yep, sure sounds like that to me (and probably most West Australians as well). Probably just so Scotty from Marketing and his 'puppet' Gladys in NSW can say "I told you so...".

Quote:

Hello???? What's happening in NSW and Victoria at the moment with their out of control Covid cases and deaths? Oh, that's right... small businesses don't matter as long as the Liberals' big business mates can 'flourish'.

Can't wait for the Federal election so we can finally bounce these Liberal (money before lives) muppets out on their ears as they so richly deserve.[/quote]

Imagine you’re Mark McGowan and you tell West Australians “I know we’re COVID-free and our economy is doing well, but I’ve agreed to a national plan developed in Canberra and I’m going to let infected people from the east fly and drive into WA and I know a lot of West Australians will get sick, and many will die as a result, but it’s for the good of the federation and because people in Sydney want to come for a holiday.”

It would be political suicide.

And we've got Michaelia Cash (Federal Senator from WA and Morrison attack dog) claim that the High Court will reverse itself and rule against WA if the boarders remain shut after the 70% or 80% target is reached.

In doing so she has left the door open for the Commonwealth to support another challenge to the boarder restrictions.

But she has exposed the weakness of the government's position. Scott Morrison has again lied to federal parliament by claiming the Commonwealth did not purse Clive Palmer's challenge when in fact Christian Porter intervened to support it.

Morrison knows that supporting an attempt to open WA boarders so WA citizens can get infected and die is so politically toxic he will brazenly lie to Parliament.

We are not so naïve as to think the boarder will keep covid out forever. it's inevitable that it will get in. But we want to open on our terms. By continuing to push the issue the Coalition risks losing the support of a traditionally Liberal voting State.

If Albanese is set to become the next PM, he will need to win seats in WA, seats Morrison will need to defend to continue his residence of the Lodge.

That’s good news and good luck – as if any more could possibly be bestowed on one politician – for McGowan, who again finds himself in a glorious sweet spot to command promises from the East as the election cycle rolls around again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Sep 7^th, 2021 at 12:32am

So far so good. Despite having finals we haven't had any scares. Let's hope it stays that way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 7^th, 2021 at 12:50am

Ah, yes, Raven.

But, we still have the GRAND Final to be concerned about.

I've already seen one muppet from Victoria on another forum telling everyone that he wants to get to Perth to see the AFL Grand Final by any means possible.

He says he "knows a way to do it" (illegally, presumably) despite being told by others that the WA Police have become very good at spotting people like him and more than likely all he will see of Perth (assuming he even makes it here) is the inside of the airport and the inside of his quarantine hotel room where he will be spending 14 days at his expense before being sent back to where he came from.

With a hefty fine as well, one would hope.

And, I'm sure the Grand Final would look exactly the same on his TV at home in Victoria as it would in a quarantine hotel room in Perth... would work out a LOT cheaper for him as well.

I also have no doubt whatsoever that this idiot is just the 'tip of the iceberg', there's probably thousands more thinking the same thing right now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 6:11pm

Mark McGowan reveals WA hard border could stay until April

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-mark-mcgowan-reveals-wa-hard-border-cold-stay-until-april-ng-b881999362z

Quote:

Mark McGowan has dropped a border bombshell, revealing WA could remain closed to COVID-stricken eastern States until April.

While he has acknowledged he “can’t keep the State locked forever”, the Premier told The West Australian that WA’s reopening date could still be seven months away.

If WA remains COVID-free, Mr McGowan has flagged his intention to set a date to permanently abolish the border about six to eight weeks after the State hits a vaccination rate of between 80 and 90 per cent.

“I can’t put a date on (reopening the border) because it’ll be above 80 per cent (vaccination). We’ve got to get above 80 per cent,” Mr McGowan said.

I'm sure most West Australians agree with you, Mark.

Oh, and...

'Get vaccinated and get ready': PM's warning to Western Australia

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-scott-morrison-tells-western-australia-to-get-vaccinated-and-prepare-to-reopen/ad55a3ce-6d13-4e94-935e-3d02bbf41cbf

Quote:

The Prime Minister has urged Western Australians to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and to prepare to reconnect with the rest of the country.
Scott Morrison has encouraged Western Australia to prepare its health system to deal with coronavirus now after WA Premier Mark McGowan said his state's hard border with the rest of the country would remain until 2022.

Here's Scotty from Marketing with the warnings again. Still looking for that rapidly narrowing 'window of opportunity' to hold a Federal election somewhere between everyone forgetting about your Fathers Day bungle and Covid cases/deaths spiralling out of control and praying you can still win, eh, Scotty?

Bad news, pal... its probably too late for you already.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 6:21pm

march 2022 news release......

the dreaded omega variant strikes perth.

the new variant with a fatality rate 5 x that of delta has devestated perth.

whilst the eastern states kick back with a beer, perth hospitals show scenes of utter chaos as ambulances queue for a kilometre outside casualties where the staff are all in quarantine due to the deadly omega variant.

the premier faces a massive backlash due to his failure to open up the state earlier

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 6:34pm

Here you go, aqua... just for you.

Front page of today's West Australian.

Print it out and frame it if you like. 8-)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:31pm

the west australian
headline
may 2022.

premier forced to stand down as perths hospitals overwhelmed.
eastern states send oxygen and ventilators to perth as they face the hyper contagious omega variant.

as all other countries reach herd immunity, the world looks on in horror as western australia and NZ are devestated by this new strain.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:35pm

Raven wrote on Sep 7^th, 2021 at 12:32am:

So far so good. Despite having finals we haven't had any scares. Let's hope it stays that way.

I suspect that with NSW giving up on containing it, it's now just a matter of time before it spreads to other states. At least you are a long way away from the New South Welshmen, you don't have them jumping your border .. i have them almost at my door

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:31pm:

you talking about NSW there horse boy? there hospitals can't cope now and thats with lockdowns. :D :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:50pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:31pm:

you talking about NSW there horse boy? there hospitals can't cope now and thats with lockdowns. :D :D :D

not at all

nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping

people motivated to get vaxxed.

WA cant cope now and may get the mu variant (more contagious).

when you hide from mother nature, you get weaker and she gets stronger.

NSW will be kicking back with a beer in 6 weeks, just as WA poops its collective pants

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping

NSW Covid: ICU nurses send open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning about staffing levels

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/nsw-covid-icu-nurses-send-open-letter-to-premier-gladys-berejiklian-warning-about-staffing-levels/news-story/f7ed7e0faf68b27a2a124fa0731ebbb6

Quote:

Hundreds of ICU nurses across NSW have signed an open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning the hospital system is already “in crisis”.

I also posted this yesterday but aqua probably didn't read it or just ignored it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 8:11pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

nsw is running the marathon

hospitals coping

Hundreds of ICU nurses across NSW have signed an open letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian warning the hospital system is already “in crisis”.

I also posted this yesterday but aqua probably didn't read it or just ignored it.

december 25 The Western Australian.

as melbounre gets ready for the first day of the ashes and sydeny people party on the beaches, the communities of perth remain in strict lockdown.

the hospital system in WA which never learnt to cope with any level of covid whatsoever remains extremely fragile. despite having only a few dozen cases, WA has been unable to get these figures down to zero and the premier predicts months more lockdowns . all cancer screening and elective surgery is cancelled.
as the iron ore price continues to plummett, unemployment reaches 10 % in the west and prime minister morrison rules out financial support as the other premiers have adhered to the roadmap out of covid.

out of sync , WA looks likely to remain a basket case for many months, the premiers approval ratings plummett

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Sep 10^th, 2021 at 11:33am

“Mark McGowan is the Gollum of Australian politics,” Mr Perrottet told Sky News. “You can just picture him over there in his cave with his little precious, the GST, and he's been caught out by his own budget.

“Yesterday, he (Mr McGowan) lashed out at the other premiers across the country before they've even said anything. And the reality is what transpired is because of the GST revenue.

“What struck me about WA’s substantial surplus is there is no reform to actually protect those monies into the future.”

:D
Pweciousss....

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Sep 10^th, 2021 at 7:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:50pm:

hospitals coping

you're on drugs if you think NSW's hospitals are coping. People from sydney already have had to travel to Wollongong to get into a hospital because Sydneys are over run. Once numbers reach 2000 cases a day (currently on about 1500 a day) NSW has no more room. Why do you think Ibis Berejiklian has decided to stop giving daily briefings on case numbers?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Sep 11^th, 2021 at 9:47pm

Mark McGowan Promises To Re-Open WA Border Once 180% Of Population Jabbed

Western Australia premier Mark McGowen has softened his stance on his state’s border, saying he will consider opening up once 180% of the population is fully vaccinated.

“I’ve always said we’ll take a common-sense approach to opening up,” McGowen told journalists today. “Whether it’s 180% or 190% we’ll wait to see what the modelling shows us. But it’s certainly something we’re looking at”.

He said it would be foolish to re-open at a 170% vaccination rate, as some in Western Australia have been advocating. “Look, I know there are some cowboys out there who are talking about those kinds of rates. But that would be reckless. We don’t want to lose what we’ve got here”.

A survey of Western Australia residents found that many believed the 170% rate was too cavalier. “There’s still a risk,” one said. But most said they were confident that dad would get it right.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/09/10/mark-mcgowan-open-border-180/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2021 at 11:37pm

And... they're off and running. The footy moron brigade, that is.

Trying to sneak into WA for the AFL Finals.

Throw the book at these selfish, inconsiderate idiots, I say.

From today's West Australian:

Quote:

Police have warned that coming to WA to attend the AFL finals is not a "category for approval" to cross the border after Victorian travellers allegedly provided false information in an attempt to fly west.

Can't believe this has to be explained to people... oh, wait... we're talking about footy morons here. Say no more. ::)

Mind you, with the way things are going with Covid cases in Victoria I wouldn't be surprised if they join NSW in the "extreme risk" category very soon then these clowns won't be able to travel to WA for any reason.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2021 at 6:21pm

Truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA returns positive COVID-19 test but no lockdown planned

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-22/truck-driver-48-hours-in-wa-positive-to-covid-19/100483350

Quote:

A truck driver who spent 48 hours in WA has tested positive for COVID-19, the WA Health Minister has announced.

But neither a lockdown nor any other restrictions are being considered at this stage, and there are no changes to plans for the AFL grand final.

Of course not... we could have 100 cases a day before the end of the week and we wouldn't be told or have any sort of lockdown until after the AFL Grand Final. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 22^nd, 2021 at 7:00pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2021 at 6:21pm:

Of course not... we could have 100 cases a day before the end of the week and we wouldn't be told or have any sort of lockdown until after the AFL Grand Final. ::)

a grand final is a celebration of human athleticism and courage

a lockdown is a celebration of human fragility and cowardice

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 26^th, 2021 at 10:38am

Woke up to rain and thunderstorms here in Perth this morning after the great weather we've had for the past week.

Hope the thunder and lightning isn't heralding the arrival and escape of Covid after the AFL Grand Final at Optus Stadium last night. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26^th, 2021 at 10:56am

Carl D wrote on Sep 26^th, 2021 at 10:38am:

Yeah, it pissed down at 7.30 this morning.

My driveway was flooded.

Big change from yesterday. I can still hear thunder too.

Unfortunately, this wet weather means that those eastern-staters who want to continue celebrating at pubs today will all be indoors, instead of sitting outside in the beer gardens.

That's a bit of a concern.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 26^th, 2021 at 1:53pm

lol... poor Eddie! :'(

;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 2:25pm

The two idiot Victorians who snuck in for the Grand Final will have to stay behind bars until October 13.

Their case was heard in a Perth court this morning (by phone link) and it has been adjourned until that date.

I hope it was worth it, guys.

"Prominent Melbourne restaurateur Hayden Burbank, 49, and his 39-year-old financial planner friend Mark Babbage allegedly left Melbourne for Darwin on September 14 then flew to Perth on September 22."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 7:01pm

Here we go ::)

A ship full of people infected with COVID has docked in Fremantle.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 7:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2021 at 7:01pm:

Here we go ::)

A ship full of people infected with COVID has docked in Fremantle.

Nothing against them, by the way.

Give them all the treatment we can - they need to be looked after.

But we're going into lock-down within the next ten days - I can feel it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 1:40am

I agree. They need to be treated.

But, if they're being taken to Fiona Stanley Hospital I sure hope they've fixed the lift 'malfunction' since the MV Darya Krishna episode in July.

Quote:

"A mechanical fault with one of the lifts at Fiona Stanley Hospital has resulted in a breach during the transfer of one of the crew members," Mr Cook said.

And, yes, I strongly suspect Perth and most of WA will be having another lockdown in the very near future (which I'm sure will make aquascoot and a few others here very happy).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Marla on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 2:52am

Scootaqua brush up word on salad his.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Marla on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 3:01am

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2021 at 11:45am:

Mutation shows the Virus is WINNING.
It's 'Growing'.

Winning what, you chronic incel fart sucker? All viruses mutate over time as part of their natural evolution and biology. Only diffy being thanks to you anti-vaxer conspiracy bag of dicks, the strains have become more lethal, not less. Now go clean up your room before your mother takes away your Xbox privileges.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 7:37am

Singapore oil tanker crew members rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid COVID-19 fears

Two crew members on board an oil and chemical tanker berthed in Fremantle have been rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid concerns they could have been infected with COVID-19.

The Cayman Islands-flagged Stolt Sakura arrived at the West Australian port on Saturday morning, after several workers reported flu-like symptoms at sea.

Two crew members on board an oil and chemical tanker berthed in Fremantle have been rushed to Fiona Stanley Hospital amid concerns they could have been infected with COVID-19.

The Cayman Islands-flagged Stolt Sakura arrived at the West Australian port on Saturday morning, after several workers reported flu-like symptoms at sea.

The Stolt Sakura oil and chemical tanker.
The Stolt Sakura oil and chemical tanker.CREDIT:TREVOR RAYMOND POWELL / MARINETRAFFIC.COM

To date, 12 workers out of the 22 crew on the ship, who are all from the Philippines, have returned inconclusive results to rapid antigen COVID tests.

Most have reported mild or no coronavirus symptoms.

Rapid antigen tests are notorious for returning false positives and require a follow-up PCR test to confirm an infection if they give a result other than negative.

WA health authorities boarded the ship on Saturday morning to swab the crew and confirm whether they have been infected with the virus through PCR testing.

The results are expected to be made public on Sunday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 3:16pm

WA Health says 12 of 22 crew members on oil tanker Stolt Sakura positive for COVID-19

Testing has identified 12 positive COVID-19 cases among 22 crew members on oil and chemical tanker the Stolt Sakura, which docked in Fremantle Harbour yesterday.

Three of the crew members are in hospital in Perth, with two in ICU.

The other crew members are quarantining on the ship.

A diplomat from Serbia who flew into Perth on September 29 has also tested positive for COVID-19.

The man, aged in his 30s, flew into the WA capital with his wife and child and all were self-quarantining in an apartment.

The diplomat tested positive for COVID-19 a few days after his arrival.

The family has since been transferred to hotel quarantine.

More to come.

:(

Delta has arrived.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:17pm

Saw some interesting stats today.

The Perth suburbs with the highest vaccination rates are Peppermint Grove and Claremont.

For those form the east, those suburbs are full of highly paid professionals - doctors, judges, surgeons, lawyers, etc.

The suburbs with the lowest vaccination rates are Kwinana, Rockingham, Gosnells, and Armadale.

Again, for those from the east, those suburbs are full of warehouse workers, the unemployed, bikie gang clubhouses, and high school drop outs.

Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Setanta on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:17pm:

Great bit of class warfare there bro! Go the new left!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2021 at 3:16pm:

:( :( :(

Drat

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29^th, 2021 at 2:25pm:

Good, jail is right.

I have been adversely affected by covid and have been careful to do the right thing.
It really irks me when people deliberately breach medical regulations during a pandemic.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:20am

Setanta wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 8:17pm:

Great bit of class warfare there bro! Go the new left!

That's an interesting take on my post, but completely inaccurate.

I'm not attacking any particular class of people here - I'm just pointing out some facts and then offering a solution.

Throughout the world it's become quite clear that adults with a higher level of education are much more likely to get the jab and to believe the vaccine is safe and effective.

And it's not just me saying that.

This, from the US:

"Results from a new USC Dornsife study show that U.S. adults with higher education are significantly more likely to get a COVID-19 vaccination and to believe in the vaccine’s safety and effectiveness."

Education is a bigger factor than race in desire for COVID-19 vaccine

"Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree."

And what did I say?

"Education is important, people - make sure your kids finish high school and go on to complete at least one undergraduate degree."

Nothing to do with warfare - it's about identifying a problem and finding solutions for the future.

It's no coincidence that the people on this forum who are rabid anti-vaxxers are the same people who constantly mock universities and bachelor degrees.

It's no stretch of the imagination to conclude that if more people had been better educated (in general), that the current global COVID death toll would be far less.

The stats from Perth, which I mentioned earlier, only reinforce this conclusion.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:42am

Urging people to educate themselves and their children is not class warfare!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:46am

People with a higher level of education used to get the best jobs that paid the most money

Now they get 2 degrees including a masters an end up working as a barista

And they become very bitter and resentful
About people like my farrier
Who can barely spell his name
But who pulls down half a million dollars a year

In fact it enrages them

And they become balls of hateful spiteful resentful smug intellectual elitism

Their intellectual elitism is worthless in the work place
Now that artificial intelligence has taken over
So they spew out their rage and frustration all over the internet
There are several offender's on this site

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:50am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:46am:

People with a higher level of education used to get the best jobs that paid the most money

Now they get 2 degrees including a masters an end up working as a barista

And they get two jabs of vaccine, which is the point I'm making.

The amount of money they make is completely irrelevant.

But, as usual, you rank money above everything else. Even health.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:54am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 8:46am:

Your acid-spitting about education says more about you than you think (or would like).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:23am

It rather does, doesn’t it?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:58am

Another one.

WA on high alert after interstate truck driver tests positive

Quote:

WA is on alert after another COVID-19 scare involving an interstate truck driver.

The Health Department has released a list of potential exposure sites after it was notified the driver had returned a positive test result in Victoria on Tuesday — almost a week ago.

The driver, who is in his 20s, was potentially infectious the whole time he was in WA, from September 30 to October 3.

Now in quarantine in a South Australian medi-hotel, the driver was tested at the border between SA and Victoria after he had been in WA.

Wasn't something supposed to have been done months ago to prevent this sort of thing happening? ::)

And, while I'm here I'd like it put on the record that I am offended (and slightly amused) by the new ads I've seen on free to air TV the past few days from the Australian Government (i.e. Scotty from Marketing) regarding Covid vaccinations.

While I fully agree that everyone needs to be vaccinated as soon as possible (and my elderly aunt and I are fully vaccinated) I don't care for the part where the 'voiceover' person in the ad says "Now that COVID-19 is in our community".

Here's some news for you, Australian Government... it isn't in OUR community in WA (or South Australia, Queensland, Tasmania and the Northern Territory) at the moment and we'd like to keep it that way, thank you very much.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:06pm

Perth Man In Crowded Pub Wondering If He’ll Ever Enjoy Freedoms Of Gold Standard NSW

Quote:

Struggling to be heard over the noise of the packed front bar, Perth man George Ranaford last night asked his friends if they reckon they’ll ever get to the point where they can have 10 people over to their house, like they can in national leader New South Wales.

“Did you hear New South Wales is leading the nation out of COVID?” Ranaford shouted, accidentally spilling beer as he jostled for space in the standing-room-only venue.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

The two idiots from Melbourne who came for the Grand Final got 10 months prison time today.

They only have to serve three though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Oct 13^th, 2021 at 7:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

The two idiots from Melbourne who came for the Grand Final got 10 months prison time today.

They only have to serve three though.

ten seems excessive, three seems more reasonable

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 24^th, 2021 at 7:04pm

lol...

Coronavirus crisis: COVID chief Neville Power charged over alleged border breach

Quote:

EXCLUSIVE: The man tasked by Prime Minister Scott Morrison to spearhead the country’s post COVID-19 economic task force has been charged with breaching WA’s strict quarantine laws.

Subscriber only article but I'll probably read it in tomorow's paper.

Looks like yet another Scotty from Marketing failure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 24^th, 2021 at 7:04pm

Another subscriber only article from last week but the headline tells the story:

WA hard border: 82 per cent of West Australians back Mark McGowan’s hard border stance

Yep, and I'm one of the 82 per cent. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:25am

This is a very sad state of affairs

I'm sure if we polled 5 year olds about whether they wish to face the challenge and adventure of going to school
82% of them they will prefer the safe space of mummies cuddles

But we know that human beings are not built for safety & security
They are built for adventure and challenge

Without adventure and challenge there is no growth
They would become smaller people
More fragile children
More mediocre children

If we expect 5 year olds to face up to the challenge of their humanity

Surely surely surely we must expect adults to set a good example for them

This abdication of your responsibility as a parent or grandparent
To present a resilient strong competence role model for your children and grandchildren

Is woeful cowardly and pathetic

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:29am

Alternate link:

Former COVID-19 advisor Neville Power charged with breaching Western Australia's coronavirus restrictions

Quote:

The man who spearheaded Australia's post-COVID-19 economic task force has been charged with breaching Western Australia's coronavirus border restrictions during a private helicopter flight from Queensland.

Police alleged Neville Power and a 36-year-old man failed to complete G2G passes before flying into WA on October 9.

Mr Power, 63, was the head of the National COVID-19 Commission Advisory Board and is the former chief executive of Fortescue Metals Group.

He is the current chairman of Perth Airport and the Royal Flying Doctor's Service.

Police alleged that Mr Power and the other man left Queensland on September 8 and flew in the helicopter to Exmouth.

They say the helicopter stopped to refuel in Carnarvon and Geraldton before arriving at Perth's Jandakot Airport on October 9.

Disgraceful is probably the best word to describe this.

Oh, and the usual 'one rule for them and another for the rest of us', of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:38am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:25am:

What is actually pathetic is that one of the many jobs of governments, both Federal and State, is to PROTECT THE POPULATION from all threats, including pandemics.

Something which they are about to criminally disregard (and already have in NSW and Victoria) by caving in to big business and the almighty dollar and allowing Covid to run loose in Australia with the resulting deaths which are predicted to reach about 10 a day.

I keep seeing references to 'Nuremberg 2.0' type trials coming up in the future for all of these politicians (and big business leaders) for allowing this to happen. Bring it on, I say.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:54am

Carl D wrote on Oct 24^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

I'm one of the 82% too.

Well done, Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 7:02am

Yep, and here's another 'Well done, Mark' initiative:

WA to get Bunnings vaccination clinics as government plans more hubs in Perth suburbs

Quote:

West Australians will soon be able to receive COVID-19 vaccinations at some Bunnings stores, as the WA government sets up pop-up clinics across the state.

Premier Mark McGowan said six or seven pop-up clinics would be set up at the hardware stores from the weekend of November 6 and 7.

No bookings will be required at the clinics.

This was also set up in Queensland recently and its a great idea, the more people who get vaccinated and the more places that are available to get it done the better.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 7:23am

Excellent idea!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:41am

Baaa baaa

https://youtu.be/tDQw21ntR64

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 9:05am

Hi Carl

No place on earth can keep kovid out

You are certifiably insane if you think you can

And for grown men to expect more courage from five year olds then from themselves is woeful

If we expect 5 year olds to voluntarily expose themselves to stress

What sort of mediocre society does not expect that of grown men

And I use the term men loosely

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:10am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Again... no-one has said we can keep Covid out forever.

I'm expecting to see it break loose here in Perth and WA any time now despite Mark McGowan's best efforts to try and protect us.

The 'goal' here is to get everyone vaccinated (or as many people as possible) before we have outbreaks like NSW and Victoria.

Vaccines have always been used until now for preparing a population for pandemics. Not for trying to bring them under control after the outbreaks occur.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:12am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Hi Carl

No place on earth can keep kovid out

That's correct.

And nobody has said anything to the contrary, which makes me wonder why you keep bringing this up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

Quote:

Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.

Sounds like a REALLY BAD idea to me. Especially since Queensland has reported 2 new cases today.

Hopefully, Mark McGowan will put a stop to this stupid plan before we get a major Covid outbreak here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 12:08pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

Quote:

Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.

Absolutely nobody should be allowed into WA, from anywhere, unless they are fully vaccinated.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 1:11pm

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1452563756538494980

This was from yesterday.

'JohnR1507' has helpfully reminded Mr. McGowan today that there are new Covid cases in Queensland.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 4:49pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Western Australia assesses Queensland as 'very low' COVID-19 risk, meaning quarantine-free travel

Quote:

Western Australia's border restrictions for those travelling from Queensland will ease on Wednesday, after a COVID-19 scare delayed plans for quarantine-free travel to resume last week.

they will still need to be vaccinated to enter.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:36am

I notice there's an almost non stop procession of planes leaving Perth Airport this morning - and continuing well past the normal 5:15am - 8:00am FIFO 'window'.

Alan and Jayne must be sending most of their planes from here over to the Eastern States so they can start cashing in on the reopening of international and interstate travel over there.

Good luck to them. Better make the most of it though because I'm predicting almost all of Australia will be in lockdown again before Christmas. Except WA, hopefully (as long as Mark McGowan 'sticks to his guns' and isn't bullied by Scotty from Marketing and big business like the other States have been).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:42am

Yeah, I am on tenterhooks—can I enter Tassie, can I re-enter SA? So far, if I drive straight through Victoria stopping only to refuel I can enter Tassie. It may not remain like that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:00pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:36am:

the people of the eatern states have decided that the mediocre life of the chode is not worth living.
they prefer human flourishing to "lingering'
they prefer thriving to "surviving"

WA is now out of step with the entire planet.

how cowardly

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:36am:

Lol ;D

We have no restrictions, and have only had a few days lockdown since the pandemic began.

Life is normal here, and has been for a very long time.

You're so out of touch with reality, it's not even funny anymore.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:36am:

the marathon must be run.

every other place on earth has recognised this.

gweggy and carl are still in bed , congratulating themselves on their level of personal comfort , ignoring the fact that the brutal journey is still in front of them.

they definitely were fed their desert before their meat and veges as children

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:36am:

the marathon must be run.

every other place on earth has recognised this.

gweggy and carl are still in bed , ...

Again, we are not in lockdown, and we have no restrictions.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Throughout this pandemic, WA has been the best place in the world to live.

Life is completely normal here.

What part of this don't you understand?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm

again,

you and everyone else in WA is going to catch covid,
possibly repeatedly,
again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

recognising that all that can be done, has now been done, WA should join the rest of australia in living with covid.

why try to keep it out?
what benefit is that to WA?
your immunity is waning every day.

you want it circulating as a matter of urgnecy to keep priming your immune system

WA citizens will be more likely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Everyone is going to catch it eh? Do you have a timespan to go with that?

I'd bet you've never had the flu, let alone smallpox, cholera or polio.

So far about 175,000 Australians have contracted covid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

ely to be hospitalised because they will be catching it with declining immune levels

how foolish

what a load of fabricated bollocks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:08pm:

they definitely were fed their desert before their meat and veges as children

Did it come in a sandwich?

(Sits back and watches that one zoom right over the top of his head)

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

again, we now have vaccines being thrown in the bin because they expired and no one wanted them

Didn't you tell us a while back that you were prepared get the Covid vaccine 100 times live on TV?

Well, we're still waiting... better hurry up and arrange it before more doses end up being thrown in the bin.

Be sure to let us know the date, time and channel in advance. I wouldn't miss it for the world.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:43pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

well my friend, england is recording 50,000 cases a day, mainly in vaxxed people, not sick , but the virus is going to become an endemic nasal virus.

vaccines dont work to stop the nasal colonisation because that relies on a different antibody

Ig A from memory

so unless they come up with a nasal spray vaccine, you will be exposed to covid over and over.

WA gains nothing by waiting.

each day, their vaxxed population loses a little bit of immunity.

very foolish stuff

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:43pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Are there many Scoots? Are you Legion? Aqua Scoot, Boot scoot, Coot Scoot, Delta Scoot...

One post you tell us the Poms' covid number are up because they're fat lazy bastards with a bad diet. Now they're the omen of things to come... Do you think we're all watching the tele while hoeing down on deep fried Mars bars?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:43pm:

WA gains nothing by waiting.

each day, their vaxxed population loses a little bit of immunity.

very foolish stuff

lol, look at this idiot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:58pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:27pm:

. Do you think we're all watching the tele while hoeing down on deep fried Mars bars?

:-[

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:00pm

everyones numbers are up.

its just the poms foolishly keep testing.

most countries wont bother

why would they?

once people are vaxxed, who cares.

its a meaningless statistic .

all the vaxxed people will have covid up their nose.

this is the new normal

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm

The ideal thing to do is get everyone vaxxed really fast, then open up.
This article explains why.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-21/covid-vaccine-peak-protection-period-miised-in-some-states/100550696

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:45pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

Yep. why would you take the risk in WA right now because WA is actually carrying the country economically. Look what happened in Brazil, it closed the mining industry., if that happens in WA we are all stuffed, thats just the facts. 98 percent vax rates is the figure we should be aiming for though before opening up in my opinion and I think Mcgowan is onto it, he has obviously listened to the noble knowledgable Rhino and his advice.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 5:24am

rhino wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

lol

iron ore price has halved.

and if you bothered to read gordons excellent link to the ABC no less

it points out the foolishness of waiting to allow in the virus as you miss out on peak protection.

aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.

has mcgowan mentioned vitamin D yet?
if not , why not

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:16am

Flight Centre threatens to sue Mark McGowan if he refuses to open the borders when Western Australia hits 80 per cent vaccination

Quote:

Flight Centre claims it will sue the WA Government if domestic and international borders don't reopen when the state hits 70 to 80 per cent vaccination rates.

Chief executive Graham Turner said he thought he would have a 'good chance' of winning a legal challenge if borders weren't opened.

Two words - and they start with F and O.

I'm hoping it'll be a cold day in hell before the CEO of Flight Centre (or any other company) dictates to a State government about how they handle Covid and keep people safe.

How many Covid deaths and hospitalisations does Graham consider acceptable so Flight Centre can go back to making money? Perhaps he can team up with Jayne from Virgin and come up with a number? (Hint: anything other than zero is the wrong answer).

Someone should also have a word in Graham's ear and remind him that anyone with half a brain and Internet access can book their own interstate and overseas holidays and trips without paying a huge fee to Flight Centre (or any other agents).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:22am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 5:24am:

aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.

;D ;D ;D

So much 'common sense' (and fun) that there's even a game for it now... I hear a lot of the 'selfish, expendable oldies' are playing it and having a good laugh at your expense.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Carl D wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

Flight Centre threatens to sue Mark McGowan if he refuses to open the borders when Western Australia hits 80 per cent vaccination

Quote:

Who the hell uses Flight Centre anyway? :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 11:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Who the hell uses Flight Centre anyway? :-/

No-one that I know.

A lot of them have closed down here in Perth (and probably Australia wide) since the start of the pandemic. The one in Belmont Forum (near Aldi) is still open (or has reopened) but it doesn't seem particularly busy when I've been up there lately.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:12pm

Belmont Forum Flight Centre still wasn't busy when I was up there just after 11am today. I counted one customer which is one more than I usually see.

And, perhaps Graham should consider updating the company's 'logo'? The Concorde hasn't flown since 2003.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:29pm

those poor flight centre workers.

probably have mortgages and kids

and selfish old chodes have demolished their lives

how ugly

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:29pm:

those poor flight centre workers.

probably have mortgages and kids

and selfish old chodes have demolished their lives

how ugly

Indeed.

But, as Scotty from Marketing keeps telling us (especially the unemployed)... there's plenty of jobs out there if you look for them.

Don't forget his words of wisdom: "If you have a go, you'll get a go".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:35pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 3:12pm:

I know a couple of people who worked for Flight Centre.

Terrible employer, apparently.

I dealt with them once, for a European trip, and they would answer my emails straight away whenever I asked a question.

That is, until I paid - after that they never replied again.

I've been told that once they receive payment, you are effectively put on an ignore list.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 5:24am:

rhino wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 8:13pm:

lol

iron ore price has halved.

yes it has, down to around 110 a tonne. Only $55 a tonne more than they allowed for in the budget. Lol. You do it to yourself every time.

Quote:

and if you bothered to read gordons excellent link to the ABC no less

it points out the foolishness of waiting to allow in the virus as you miss out on peak protection.

aquascoots common sense verifed yet again.

has mcgowan mentioned vitamin D yet?
if not , why not

yes, yes, we are all doomed, how many times you said that now? Ever been right about anything? ;D
I think I will go on your track record of zero out of 10,000. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:04pm

rhino wrote on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 4:59pm:

yes, yes, we are all doomed, how many times you said that now? Ever been right about anything? ;D
I think I will go on your track record of zero out of 10,000. ;D

It's the Cassandra complex...

Predict a disaster every year and just one time you might jag one... And then hype yourself as a visionary!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:11pm

I'm surprised anyone is still using them after this happened last year:

Airlines cancel - Flight Centre still charge $350 (Whirlpool Forums - long thread).

People must have short memories.

Wonder if they're still doing it or have started doing it again because I've recently read that some (or all?) of the airlines have now pulled out this 'trick':

Airlines are apparently advertising and allowing people to book flights then the flights are being cancelled at the last minute so the airlines don't lose their 'slots' at airports.. I'm assuming the people booked for the flights are offered a later flight or a refund if they decide to cancel the trip (perhaps minus a $350 fee?).

Well, I suppose if the airlines are now using this 'trick' at least its a lot less fuel wastage and less pollution/noise than what they were doing last year - flying empty or almost empty planes on their regular routes so they wouldn't lose their 'slots' (although I wouldn't be surprised if that still happens as well).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 4^th, 2021 at 5:12pm

page flip.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 1:44pm

Premier reveals WA plan for border to re-open to domestic and international travellers

Quote:

Western Australia will reopen to domestic and international travellers when the State hits a 90 per cent vaccination milestone — likely in late January or early February.

The exact transition date — which will also trigger the reintroduction of some restrictions — will be announced when WA hits the 80 per cent double dose mark for everyone aged 12 and above.

The decision is based on new Health Department modelling showing that almost 200 fewer West Australians would die with COVID-19 if the border reopens at 90 per cent vaccination instead of 80 per cent.

Quote:

Once the reopening date is set — likely in early December — it will be “locked in,” Mr McGowan said.

I wouldn't be locking anything in at this stage, Mark. Wait and see what happens with the rest of Australia first because I'm expecting most of Australia to be in lockdown again by Christmas.

And, definitely keep a sharp eye out for any 'fiddling of numbers' like what's (allegedly) been happening with hospital cases in Victoria.

‘Not sustainable’: Dozens of COVID-19 patients missing from ICU figures

Quote:

Dozens of COVID-19 patients in Victoria’s intensive care units are missing from official figures, as the state’s health department fails to publicly report those who are lingering in hospital, including some of the most gravely ill.

The revelation indicates the pressure on Victoria’s strained hospital system is significantly worse than previously thought and discredits widely reported government statistics that suggested ICU admissions due to COVID-19 cases have been slowly falling since mid-October from a high of 163.

I'm expecting to see a lot more of that in the coming months.

Oh, and...

Quote:

The modelling estimates 313 COVID patients would die in the first year after an outbreak at a vaccination rate of 80 per cent, compared to 117 deaths at 90 per cent. Case numbers would hit 104,000 and 43,000 respectively at the two different vaccination rates.

Does anyone else besides me find that completely unacceptable? Big business and people like aquascoot won't care, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 2:56pm

And, while (almost) everyone is getting excited about everything opening up here in Australia we have this:

Posted 3h ago

Europe's COVID-19 surge a 'grave concern' says WHO, as hospitalisations double in one week

Quote:

The World Health Organization (WHO) has warned 500,000 people could die of COVID-19 in Europe and Central Asia in the next three months, as virus transmission rates surge across the region.

Quote:

WHO Europe director Hans Kluge said Europe was back at the "epicentre" of the pandemic, facing a resurgence of cases, hospitalisations and deaths.

Case numbers were beginning to near-record levels again and the pace of transmission in the region was of "grave concern", he said.

"Over the past four weeks, Europe has seen a greater than 55 per cent increase in new COVID-19 cases," Dr Kluge said.

But, never mind... 'no wucking furries' is the prevailing attitude here in the Land of Oz (at least until the s*it hits the fan before too much longer).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 3:23pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 1:44pm:

Oh, and...

Quote:

Does anyone else besides me find that completely unacceptable? Big business and people like aquascoot won't care, of course.

No, it's just you.

In 2019, there were 902 flu deaths in Australia. In 2017, 1181 deaths.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over-past-12-mon

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 3:39pm

Geez I'm getting sick of repeating myself here but the reason why all of those flu deaths were virtually ignored for so long was because the population had been 'conditioned' over the years and decades to accept those deaths as 'normal' and that nothing could be done about it. Which suited big business (airlines airports, tourism, etc.) and governments just fine because to do something about it costs money.

Now they want to do the same with Covid and slowly 'condition' people to accept a certain number of deaths every year. All for the sake of the almighty dollar.

But, if Covid has taught us one thing (or should have) its that something can (and should have in the past) been done about stopping or reducing all these yearly flu deaths and its now up to everyone to demand that something be done about it from here onwards.

And, while I'm here... for a State like Western Australia which has only had 1112 Covid cases and 9 deaths (all as a result of overseas/interstate cases coming here) since the start of the pandemic I would expect at the very least for the State government to hold a referendum on the subject of reopening everything and then having up to 313 deaths a year (on top of more flu deaths, of course) which are entirely preventable at this stage but we all know that will never happen.

(A recent survey revealed that over 80% of people here want the 'hard border' to remain).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:03pm

Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do - to protect you.

Pathetic. What happened to your sense of agency and self-determination? You have, are, the worst of all words - no greater principle you defer to, no personal strength to be a self-determining individual at your own reckoning.

You are an example of the 'do not ask what I can do for my country or myself, I am demanding to know what my country and everyone else can do FOR ME!!!!"

Pathetic and a little repulsive. Like a worm.i

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:39pm

Frank wrote on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:03pm:

Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do - to protect you.

;D ;D ;D

lol... I couldn't give a flying fig about governments... Federal and State, Liberal or Labor.

I know exactly what I'd like to see happen to the lot of them but it isn't suitable for posting on a 'family forum'.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 4:34pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:39pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 5^th, 2021 at 8:03pm:

Carl, you have turned government into your all-powerful god and protector and you are railing against your god not doing as you expect it to do - to protect you.

good stuff.

tell the premier to go away and let people get on with

1 human flourishing

2 personal responsibility.

carl, you cant seriously say "i dont give a rats about the bedwetting premier keeping the border closed".
you cheer on his lunacy on a daily basis.

you need an extended holiday in" small government" florida or sweden to come to your senses

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm

As I said... I couldn't care less about ANY politician... Labor or Liberal.

What I do care about is the fact that Perth and Western Australia is living a 'Covid Free' lifestyle at the moment and has been for 99& of the time since the start of the pandemic.

Right now we have no masks and virtually no restrictions whatsoever. OK, I know we're still supposed to be social distancing and checking in with our SafeWA app or pen and paper when entering shops and other premises but a lot of people don't bother anymore (if they even did to start with) and no-one checks to see that people comply.

And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:30pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

Great post.

Nailed it.

Those from the east can't seem to get their heads around how good life has been here since March 2020.

Keep up the good work, Mr Premier.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:34pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

And, if we have to start sacrificing this Covid free lifestyle and start wearing masks and having other restrictions brought in just for the sake of money and 'the economy' then I'm certain more than 80 percent of us (myself included) are going to be royally p***ed off.

I'm betting mask-wearing will be mandatory in Australia on and off over the next year, or at least until a large percentage of a state's population's pathogen response eases (which will only happen if state hospitals are not overloaded) and (the big 'and') senior politicians do not see there being any further political capital in continuing the mandate.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.

Politicians have invested too much of their political capital in states that have kept covid in low numbers, to throw political caution to the wind.

The same would be true of New Zealand, which appears to have kept the covid death rate exceptionally low.

The dice premiers will be rolling for, will be their lasting political legacy as the 'saviours of the people'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm

WA the hermit state of the world,, baaa baaa baaa

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:04pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:35pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

What is it with you mongs in WA - Bbwian, turd, you, phillperf etc? Who is keeping your borders closed, who is giving the health orders that YOU SUPPORT?? Politicians. Politicians tou do not care about, only support. You guys are weird, stupid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:56pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:04pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 8:59am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:04pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 9:25am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 8:59am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:04pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?

They are both in control of hermit kingdoms, the difference being in WA they don't have to eat grass because they have our iron ore to sustain Kim Jong McGowan's political agenda.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 9:32am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 9:25am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 7^th, 2021 at 8:59am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 8:04pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 7:34pm:

baaa baaa baaa

The sound of one state mining?

That's not their iron ore it's Australia's iron ore, they are retarding Australia because they have the riches and McGowan is acting like Kim Jong Un.

In what way is McGowan acting like Kim Jong Un?

They are both in control of hermit kingdoms, the difference being in WA they don't have to eat grass because they have our iron ore to sustain Kim Jong McGowan's political agenda.

The cartoon is satirical and not intended to be factual.

Western Australia is not a kingdom.

The Kim family sealed North Korea off from the world to establish and sustain a tyrannical and murderous regime.

Given the McGowan government (as with the New Zealand government), likely by fluke and isolation, achieved an almost zero-covid status, it's hard to imagine any government of the day not wanting to defend that record.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 2:38am

The West Australians will be allowed out of their paddock sometime later next year so says their shepherd Mark.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

https://youtu.be/33hajppi4yg

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:03am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 2:38am:

The West Australians will be allowed out of their paddock sometime later next year so says their shepherd Mark.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

https://youtu.be/33hajppi4yg

Why would we want to leave our paddock? :-/

We have no restrictions, and no COVID.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am

Time to give up on them, Greg. Unless they actually came over here most of them will never understand just how great life is here in Perth (and all of WA) at the moment.

And, over 80 percent of us would like it to stay that way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:23am

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

I think you're right - they just don't get it.

No COVID and no restrictions.

Life here is the same as it was before COVID.

The only difference is checking in with QR codes.

I'm in no hurry to go to another state or country at the moment.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:27am

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

Are you OK there Carl, alone with roast lamb for xmas again.

Carl D
https://youtu.be/v8-8WsYj9FU

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:21pm

Morrison says McGowan doing 'more harm than good' in border closure plan (might need to scroll up a bit... stupid link).

Quote:

Now he is being asked about Western Australia’s commitment not to open the border until 90% of the state’s over-12 population is fully vaccinated.

Morrison says WA premier Mark McGowan will be doing “more harm than good”.

The modelling done by the Doherty Institute makes it very clear – and that’s what was agreed in the national plan, not just once but twice – and that is once you hit 80% double-dose vaccination rates, then you’re able to move forward...

Of course, there’s a big difference between 70 and 80%. When you look at the curve of the pandemic, once you hit 80% – whether it’s a low number of cases you’re going into, like would be the case in Western Australia, or a high number of cases like we’ve seen in New South Wales and Victoria – once you hit that 80% threshold, there is a scientifically-backed in position which says that you can take the next step.

And the advice we have from the secretary of Treasury, from Dr Kennedy, is once you go over 80% and you keep things locked down, you are doing more harm than good to your economy.

You’re actually putting a price on Australians when you continue to put heavy restrictions on your economy, once you hit 80% vaccination rates.

The only harm being done is to Scotty from Marketing's re-election chances at the upcoming Federal Election.

I (and most of WA, I'm sure) would like to see more of that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:34pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 6:20pm:

I hope you're right.

I'd like to see mask-wearing mandatory on public transport, for example, all the time.

Thats right. You yourself have to catch public transport, some of us have a choice.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 6:09am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:23am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

No covod no restrictions and no prospect of economic growth

Trade is absolutely essential for economic growth

And the Australian economy is becoming increasingly reliant on tourism educational services
Skilled immigration in order to have a functional economy

Carl and Gregory think that you can have 100 guys dig up some iron ore
And then 1 million parasites in Perth whose function in the economy is to be consumers

That has 0 prospect of working
It will work in the short term for the selfish entitlement of Gregory and Carl
And it will work in the short term for the bedwetting Premier
But where is the job prospects for our most precious generation
The young people of western Australia
Who are orders of magnitude more precious than the lingering fossils

Without a functional economy very very few of them have a functional future
And without a functional economy there will be no public health system to pander to the bed wedding Gregory and Carl

They would appear to be shooting themselves with a self inflicted wound

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 6:37am

Sounds like its about time for Western Australia to finally secede from the rest of the country, eh, aqua?

8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:27am

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 6:37am:

Sounds like its about time for Western Australia to finally secede from the rest of the country, eh, aqua?

8-)

Tell me Karl do you think there are any young people in western Australia who might like to travel
Who have higher aspirations for their life then sitting on the sofa in their bubble of safety

It's not all about you and Greg
Thinking only of oneself is the definition of selfishness

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:35am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:23am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

The times they are a-changin', old man.

WA is doing just fine, and we'll be doing just fine in the future.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions - life is good :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 9:33am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:27am:

Young people can travel as much as they like, I couldn't care less. As long as they don't bring Covid back with them or start complaining when they have to quarantine if borders suddenly slam shut while they're travelling (I'm predicting all of this quarantine free travel that's starting up right now won't last past Christmas when I'm still predicting most of Australia will be back in lockdown).

Assuming the Federal and State governments don't start lying about the number of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths, of course. They wouldn't do that now, would they?

As far as selfishness goes... yep, we've seen a lot of that since the start of the pandemic with people walking out of hotel and home quarantine, lying on border passes to get where "they" want to go and stuff everyone else, fleeing the major cities to regional areas in the time available before lockdowns commenced, refusing to social distance, sanitise hands and check into venues with phone apps or pen and paper, etc., etc.

Now THAT'S the definition of selfishness. Especially when people may die as a result of their selfishness.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 9:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:23am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

Really??

What's this, then?

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-business-and-community-activity

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-regional-travel

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/document-collections/covid-19-coronavirus-health

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:08am

Can't see where any of that has any effect on people going about their daily lives here?

For example, later this morning I'm planning on walking (weather permitting) to 3 or 4 different business premises (including Belmont Forum shopping centre) within about a kilometer radius of where I live and the only "restriction" I have is that I have to sign in with our SafeWA app (or pen and paper) at each of them.

And, as I've said before, I see many many people not even bothering to do that in my daily travels.

I'm planning on going to a local restaurant with family and friends in a couple of weeks time... once again, all we have to do is sign in with the app or pen and paper.

No masks, no Covid... just the way over 80& of us like it and we want it to remain that way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:10am

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:08am:

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Hopeless and mediocre

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:25am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:10am:

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Hopeless and mediocre

Yes, I agree. So I'll just repeat this in case anyone missed it.

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 9:33am:

As far as selfishness goes... yep, we've seen a lot of that since the start of the pandemic with people walking out of hotel and home quarantine, lying on border passes to get where "they" want to go and stuff everyone else, fleeing the major cities to regional areas in the time available before lockdowns commenced, refusing to social distance, sanitise hands and check into venues with phone apps or pen and paper, etc., etc.

Now THAT'S the definition of selfishness. Especially when people may die as a result of their selfishness.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:47am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 10:10am:

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Hopeless and mediocre

But, if in fact you're not referring to the selfish 'groups' I've mentioned in my earlier post then that should really be

us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us

Over 80% of us according to a recent survey. You know - the 80%+ that would like WA to stay Covid free for as long as possible and not have all the hospitalisations and deaths like they're having over east.

Another 10 Covid deaths in Victoria yesterday (which is 1 more in a single day than WA has had for the ENTIRE PANDEMIC so far) and 4 in NSW in case you haven't been keeping up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 11:02am

Don't worry Carl you will live forever
A living treasure
Our most precious generation

You should ask your Premier to pass legislation outlawing death in the state of western Australia
Anyone found dying should be fined $2,000
It is unacceptable behaviour

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 11:42am

More selfishness (and stupidity):

'I want that nurse': How suspicion was raised at Perth clinic over alleged fake coronavirus vaccine injection

Quote:

The Perth nurse allegedly caught giving a teenager a fake coronavirus injection may have put an unknown number of lives at risk, the Australian Medical Association (AMA) has warned.
"It almost is unbelievable," AMA President Dr Omar Khorshid said, describing the arrest of 51-year-old Christina Hartmann Benz after a "vigilant" doctor at a private Perth medical clinic allegedly watched her put a needle into a teen's arm but not inject the liquid.
"Not only is it potentially illegal, almost certainly unprofessional, but it's also putting the lives of those individuals who've availed themselves of her service actually at risk."

Quote:

Eyebrows were raised, Dr Khorshid told Today, when an unusual number of people allegedly began booking their vaccine jabs specifically with Ms Hartmann Benz at the Victoria Park Respiratory Clinic.
"There were suspicions within the practice that something wasn't quite right," he said.
"You wouldn't expect large numbers to be coming and saying 'I want that nurse.'
"That's very unusual."

Quote:

During Ms Hartmann Benz's vaccine appointments, the door had allegedly always been closed while giving injections.
Dr Khorshid said a "very vigilant" doctor had done "the right thing" and observed Ms Hartmann Benz allegedly stick the needle into a 15-year-old's arm but not inject the vaccine.
The syringe was then allegedly disposed of, still containing a full dose.

Can't see it mentioned but I hope all of those people who booked the appointments to *not* get vaccinated get charged as well seeing as its fairly obvious they all 'conspired' to do this. Probably antivaxxers who wanted to make it look like they were vaccinated so they wouldn't be locked out of pubs and clubs, etc. when restrictions are eventually introduced here for the unvaccinated.

Wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them were also using fake SafeWA apps or wrote false names and numbers with the pen and paper option (that's if if they even bothered to make it look like they were checking in at shops and other premises which I doubt).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:37pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 11:42am:

More selfishness (and stupidity):

'I want that nurse': How suspicion was raised at Perth clinic over alleged fake coronavirus vaccine injection

Quote:

[quote]Eyebrows were raised, Dr Khorshid told Today, when an unusual number of people allegedly began booking their vaccine jabs specifically with Ms Hartmann Benz at the Victoria Park Respiratory Clinic.
"There were suspicions within the practice that something wasn't quite right," he said.
"You wouldn't expect large numbers to be coming and saying 'I want that nurse.'
"That's very unusual."

Quote:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 7:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:35am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 11:23am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 8^th, 2021 at 10:43am:

The times they are a-changin', old man.

WA is doing just fine, and we'll be doing just fine in the future.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions - life is good :)

Oh, and no daylight savings.

No toll roads, no pokies, no COVID, no restrictions, and no daylight savings - life is good :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 11:40am

Actually, I don't believe the antivaxxers are the only ones not wanting to get vaccinated.

I'm betting a lot of people with no plans to travel and with no family interstate or overseas won't be getting vaccinated because they believe the WA 'hard border' won't come down if the State doesn't reach 90% fully vaccinated which is what Mark McGowan has stipulated.

Can't blame them really... we've enjoyed an almost Covid free lifestyle since the start of the pandemic and they no doubt want it to stay that way. Most of us do, especially elderly people or people with elderly parents and relatives who are most at risk from Covid... vaccinated or not.

And who wants to start wearing masks in summer? Especially with some of the scorchers we have here in Perth.

It depends on how much pressure is put on Mark McGowan by Scotty from Marketing and big business and if he 'caves in' like the other States have done. ScoMo is already upset about Mark McGowan not wanting to open WA up until we reach 90& vaccination and wants 80% like the rest of the country has done/is doing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 11:56am

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 11:40am:

I'm betting a lot of people with no plans to travel and with no family interstate or overseas won't be getting vaccinated because they believe the WA 'hard border' won't come down if the State doesn't reach 90% fully vaccinated which is what Mark McGowan has stipulated.

The problem with that strategy is that the state will become hyper-focussed on the remaining few percent, as the hard border cannot and will not remain in force due to the recalcitrance of an ultimately tiny minority (given the reason for the remaining few percent of holdouts likely owes more to procrastination than ideology).

And, because of the almost complete success in managing to keep covid out, or at very low numbers, I'm sure state government senior politicians will not entertain a last-minute U-turn.

There will likely be increasingly harsh restrictions of movement/access to public facilities for the unvaccinated, until most of the remaining relent out of exhaustion.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:22am

Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

Quote:

Western Australia’s borders could open to the rest of the country in the first few weeks of 2022, significantly earlier than planned.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt flagged the change during a television appearance on Sunday morning.

“We’d like to see Western Australia open as soon as possible,” he told ABC’s Insiders host David Speers.

“We are hearing that they are considering bringing that forward to at least, well, coincidentally, to time with the cricket.”

Yes, indeed... what a coincidence. ::)

So, the question that now needs to be asked is: how many Perth and WA hospitalisations and deaths are acceptable for a game of cricket?

Especially since the players will be coming straight here from Sydney and only needing to have a 5 day quarantine before playing the fifth test here in Perth.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of people are not happy about this and I don't blame them.

$$$ ahead of peoples' lives again. Damn hypocrites.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:36am

Carl D wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:22am:

Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

Quote:

Yes.

Another very bad decision.

bugger the cricket.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:49am

Carl D wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:22am:

Federal Minister Greg Hunt drops hint that WA border may open earlier than planned

Quote:

thats a subjective question.

an ashes test will bring a lot of joy to maybe 100,000 spectators over 5 days.

now if covid was killing children, the ammount of suffering from even a handful of deaths might mean that the suffering outweighs the joy.

if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

when death is approaching from old age, a peaceful respiratory "slipping away" may be preferable to a painful death from bone cancer or a humiliating death from dementia.

these are hard questions and there are no right answers.

the young have been asked to do most of the sacrificing so far and it seems equitable that the elderly and infirm can also be asked to contribute to community flourishing and joy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:52am

Thank you, aqua.

Noted and promptly filed away with most of your other posts in the round filing cabinet under my desk.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 11:22am

Carl D wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:52am:

Thank you, aqua.

Noted and promptly filed away with most of your other posts in the round filing cabinet under my desk.

:)

hi carl.

i have composed an open letter on your behalf.
i think you should consider it.

"dear fellow citizens of australia, i want to express my enormous gratitude to you all, especailly the young, for putting their lives on hold for 2 years so that i could be the priority.
you have given up so much
being with your friends at school
travel
opportunites to play team sports and visit other states and countries.

i am so grateful

and that 2 years has enabled me to get 2 shots of free vaccine and now a booster !!!, so i am now as healthy as i could possibly be.

there is nothing more you can do for me
you have already done so much

please now get on with your lives and accept this letter of gratitude.
your sacrifice has been so great and i am so appreciative.

yours sincerely carl and gweggy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 11:31am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

if covid were to result in some very elderly and unwell people dying a little earlier , then it might be a different equation.

lets not forget, respiratory illness was always looked at as "the old mans friend".

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 12:00pm

Thanks again, aqua.

Noted and filed away with your previous post(s). ::)

While I'm here:

‘I don’t like him’: Aussie cricket star burns WA Premier Mark McGowan

Quote:

Former Australian spin bowler Stephen O’Keefe has taken a swipe at West Australian Premier Mark McGowan in response to the state’s hardline border restrictions.

On Friday, McGowan said the WA border would open only when 90 per cent of the population aged 12 years and older have had two Covid-19 jabs, which is not expected until late January or early February.

The announcement cast doubt over the fifth Ashes Test, scheduled to start in Perth on January 14.

lol... I very much doubt that Mark McGowan cares what you think, Stephen.

And, on behalf of myself and probably most West Australians... sod off!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 5:55pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 11:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...

so whats the old mans friend now north?

immortality seems to be what carl and gweggy think they deserve.

as you say, we should just pass legislation banning death

big fines for anyone who doesnt comply

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 7:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 5:55pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 11:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2021 at 10:49am:

I don't know what century you were born in but pneumonia was coined the old man's friend when medical science was in its infancy or non-existent...

And, with friends like that...

so whats the old mans friend now north?

A blast of morphine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:07pm

While the rest of Australia is falling over themselves in the big rush to reopen everything (including unrestricted interstate and overseas travel) the voice of common sense and reason is still here in WA:

Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan says COVID-19 outbreaks in Europe pose 'risk' to Australia

Quote:

Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan has warned coronavirus cases in hotel quarantine will grow as parts of Europe battle "massive" outbreaks.

Mr McGowan held a COVID-19 update on Monday morning where he announced one infection was recorded in hotel quarantine overnight.

The positive case, a flight crew member, was picked up through the state's testing regime and remains in isolation.

Quote:

“Our expectation is the number of cases in hotel quarantine will grow because people in particular are returning from Europe,” he said.

“They’re having a massive outbreak in parts of Europe now.

“When Australians return from there, it’s causing some risk to Western Australia and Australia more generally.”

Quote:

Mr McGowan added it shows the "value" of hotel quarantine.

Still don't agree with this bit but its the best we have at the moment seeing as the Federal government failed in their responsibility to handle quarantine and 'handballed it' to the States last year.

So, while almost everywhere else in Australia seems to believe the pandemic is over (and, I'm still predicting they're going to get a big reminder real soon that it isn't) at least our Premier is still doing his best to protect West Australians. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:21pm

hi carl.

covid is surging in europe amongst very highly vaccinated populations.

you can gaurantee that will happen here as well.

might as well face your destiny now whilst you still have antibodies.

next year, you will be older and have less antibodies and the virus may well be more virulent.

when you refuse to face a threat, you get weaker and the threat gets stronger.

remember

human beings were not designed for security and safety.

they were designed for challenge and adventure.

you are fighting mother nature and human nature on so many levels.
but you will lose that fight in the end.

covid is way way way smarter then you or your foolish premier

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:21pm:

covid is way way way smarter then you or your foolish premier

Covid isn't smart at all although I sometimes wonder about that seeing as it always seems to 'outsmart' most of our so called leaders (mainly because they're more concerned about money and the economy than peoples' lives).

Oh, and....

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:38pm

i think that rubbish bin is where your premiers policies belong.

fancy think you can keep out a virus that has spread to every corner of the globe.

i'll bet my left arm that WA has covid everywhere within 6 months.

you cant outrun your destiny

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:35pm

Latest: WA is due to open up mid next year sometime.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:38pm:

You said that 6 months ago. And 6 months before that. You wont have any body parts left if you keep going.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm

So, to summarise this, Aqua has been posting dire Covid predictions for WA for well over 12 months, still no Covid running rampant in WA. Aqua forecast the ruin of WA economy, WA now lowest unemployment in Australia and best performing economy. I would say stick to your day job but you dont seem to know much about that either. (An alleged farmer who doesnt understand anything about basic plant or crop genetics). What an absolute dill.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 5:16am

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

rhino,

WA is like a farm on the top of a hill, with bushfires out of control heading for it, bragging that it is in fine shape because nothing is ablaze YET.

WA is like a fattie sitting on a couch watching the tour de france saying he is in better shape because his pulse and respiratory rate is less then the cyclists.

you are going the "early crow"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 9:08am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 5:38pm:

i think that rubbish bin is where your premiers policies belong.

fancy think you can keep out a virus that has spread to every corner of the globe.

Nobody thinks that, and nobody has said that.

You're just making up bullshit, as usual.

Meanwhile, in sunny WA: no toll roads, no pokies, no restrictions, no masks, no COVID, no worries [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:05am

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

In Niall Ferguson's 'Doom - The Politics of Catastrophe', he describes those economic forecasters who 'predicted' the 2007-2008 GFC.

After he'd researched their work, he noted that all of them had been predicting economic meltdown every year, some for over a decade.

They were all ignored, until they jagged one. Some were then hailed as economic 'prophets' by those who'd not looked back at their regular annual failed prophecies.

It reminded me of an experiment in 'predicting' airline crashes. Data was collected from many recent (at the time) airline crashes including insignificant details like the colour of the planes' branding... Long story short, they were able to successfully 'predict' with reasonable 'accuracy' the details of the next crash including a proximal date of the disaster.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:17am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

We will see Mr North

Early days

The virus isn't going anywhere and neither is western Australia
They couldn't keep the cane toad out
Their chances of keeping out a tiny little fragment of RNA carried by a symptomatic people is 0

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:23am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

If you'd been keeping up, you'd have known that the WA government has already warned West Australians that covid will enter WA after the hard border and travel restrictions have ended.

Doesn't require any 'clairvoyance' to jag that one.

What that state government is doing is bracing itself to preserve hospital resources, not eliminate covid once the hard border is removed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:25am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

Early days

The virus isn't going anywhere and neither is western Australia
They couldn't keep the cane toad out
Their chances of keeping out a tiny little fragment of RNA carried by a symptomatic people is 0

Once again... NO-ONE has said that Western Australia (or anywhere else for that matter) can keep Covid out.

Its like some sort of weird obsession with you.

Why do we have to keep repeating this over and over?

The best we can hope for is to keep it out for as long as possible and try to make sure our health system is prepared and also to get everyone (or as many people as possible) vaccinated.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 11:23am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

yes a, phenomenon racecourse touts have long been familiar with and a foundation of the Adventist religious movement.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by rhino on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 11:34am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 5:16am:

rhino wrote on Nov 17^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

I analysed risk for many years , what you are trying to maintain is that WA is at increased risk because of Mcgowans border policy, any argument you make shows the opposite though and I deal in cold hard facts , not airy fairy attempted analogies based on what vision you saw in the paddock last night. So you can make as many stupid Nostradamus style predictions as you like, but the hard facts re, WA is at decreased risk and will remain so when the borders open. There is zero dispute amongst anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together that closing movement till as many people as possible are vaccinated is exactly the right tactic, as other countries and states are now proving this

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm

um,

dear rhino, carl and north (the trifecta of cognitive dissonance).

australia has now sent 10 million doses of vaccine overseas because they were about to expire.

they were unwanted

so everyone has had ample time to get the vax and procrastinating at this point is a
"non fruitful " strategy.

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

You should watch 'The Father'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning ::) ::) ::)

Yes. That's correct.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

Entering Victoria is to do with Victorian travel rules, slimy. As for WA residents returning FROM Melbourne, you will have to quarantine yourself, turd.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning ::) ::) ::)

Yes. That's correct.

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:34pm

oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

WA lists victoria as 'extremely high risk"

As part of our safe and sensible controlled border arrangement, conditions of quarantine apply to travellers coming into WA. These conditions apply to travellers arriving from a low risk jurisdiction. Travellers from medium, high, and extreme risk jurisdictions are not permitted to enter unless approved.

you wouldnt be allowed back, much less back to work

what a silly billy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning ::) ::) ::)

Yes. That's correct.

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Well, if they are exempt from quaranteen.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-travel-wa

On arrival
By air

If you are arriving by plane there are several things you need to do.

You must complete a health screening on arrival at Perth Airport. You will need to scan your G2G Pass and, if applicable, verify if you have suitable premises for self-quarantine.

If you are required to self-quarantine, you must complete your quarantine period before you can travel to a regional area of WA by air or by road. This is unless your destination can be reached without stopping, except as required by law or necessary for fuel or rest.

If you use a taxi or ride-sharing service to get to your self-quarantine premises, you must wear a mask and inform the driver and any fellow passengers of your quarantine direction. They will also be required to wear a mask.

You are not permitted to use public transport, such as a bus or train, to get to your self-quarantine premises.

If you do not have suitable premises to self-quarantine, you will be directed to enter a government-approved quarantine facility at your own expense for 14 days.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-travel-wa

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

oh dear , gweggy telling lies again.

what a silly billy

[stand by from random Trump meme of deflection]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

"unless approved"

And I would be approved.

I'm a Perth resident who has been double vaxxed, and I'm working from home.

No problems whatsoever.

You really do have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:02pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

Yes. People from Perth are free to travel to Melbourne.

for a weekend and then back to perth and roll on into work monday morning ::) ::) ::)

Yes. That's correct.

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Well, if they are exempt from quaranteen.

Exactly.

And I AM exempt from quarantine.

No toll roads, no pokies, no daylight savings, no restrictions, no COVID, no masks.

Life is good :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:34pm:

lol.

roll into work i said.

not roll out of bed

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

And I AM exempt from quarantine.

I doubt it. Slimy Macedonian content farmers are not on the exempt list:

Approved travellers from high risk jurisdictions:

Approved travellers include:

certain senior Government officials
certain active military personnel
a member of the Commonwealth Parliament
a person carrying out functions under a law of the Commonwealth
a specialist or category of specialist required for the performance of time critical services where the specialist's skills are not otherwise reasonably available in Western Australia who is approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer; or
any person or category of persons who has been approved by the State Emergency Coordinator or an authorised officer.
https://www.wa.gov.au/government/publications/covid-19-coronavirus-controlled-border-frequently-asked-questions

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

And I AM exempt from quarantine.

oh dear,

more white flags from gweggy.

i simply have nowhere to store them

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 5:08pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

And I AM exempt from quarantine.

I doubt it.

Go ahead.

You'd be wrong.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 5:10pm

so gweggy is saying he is in one of those categories.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

maybe the military?

responsible for sending out white flags ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:31pm

Just for aqua:

Another day of zero local Covid cases for the great State of WA.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1461231036549844995

The only threat to us at the moment (as usual) is those endless pesky infected 'returning travellers' from overseas.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?

if you have friends in melbourne, (which the bed wetters in WA have labelled extremely high risk) you WILL NOT be able to visit them
(according to the WA website).

now gweggy says you can fly to melbounre for the weekend and return to WA and roll into work on monday (his words not mine).

we have established he is a liar.

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

say you had a "friend" in melbourne getting married.

you are happy to unfriend them because safety and security are way more important

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?

What happened to Mrs Scoot?

No 'silly billy' in this post.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:

what does it achieve except reducing peoples freedom of movement and prolonging their anxiety

No reduction of peoples' freedom of movement here in Perth as far as I can see.

Can't say I've seen any anxiety either, at least none related to Covid.

really?

so you can just roll on over to melbourne to see your friends (if you had any)

What makes you think I don't have any friends?

And, what does that have to do with the topic?

if you have friends in melbourne, (which the bed wetters in WA have labelled extremely high risk) you WILL NOT be able to visit them

Incorrect.

I can get on a plane tomorrow and go to Melbourne.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

now gweggy says you can fly to melbounre for the weekend and return to WA and roll into work on monday (his words not mine).

Incorrect.

They were your words, not mine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm

aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?

I've been talking about how good life is here in Perth and WA at the moment.

For example, my 91 year old aunt and I had lunch at a cafe in North Perth then we went for a drive and ended up at Belmont Forum to do a bit of shopping before coming home.

No restrictions... no masks... no Covid... no worries. Just how over 80% of us want to to remain for as long as possible. At least until the New Year, anyway.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

Three strikes. You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:45pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm:

aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?

You didn't. Neither did I.

But now he's saying it's my words, not his.

And, he's wrong - we are free to leave the state.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

I've never known anyone to be so out of touch with reality as aquascoot.

Everything he says is completely wrong.

I don't know how he does it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

Three strikes. You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

Which of course means that any travel issues are not caused by WA but by the States that have allowed Covid to run loose (NSW and Victoria) and those that are planning to do so shortly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:51pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

so are YOU willing to admit that WA folk are not able to visit interstate.

Three strikes. You're out.

"If you are a Western Australian, you can travel interstate for a holiday, depending on the border restrictions of the state or territory you are travelling to."

Which of course means that any travel issues are not caused by WA but by the States that have allowed Covid to run loose (NSW and Victoria) and those that are planning to do so shortly.

Exactly.

aquascoot has no idea what he's talking about.

I get the feeling that he's never left his own state. Ever.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm:

aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?

gweggy stop it ;D ;D ;D ;D

i cannot accept any more white flags.

you said you could go to melbourne for the weekend and then return sunday night and roll into work monday.

you cant

unless you are telling us you fit one of the criteria frank posted.

its on your website

now go and start stitching that white flag to the pole for me like a good boy

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:42pm:

aqua...

...where did I say anything about travelling or wanting to travel interstate?

gweggy stop it ;D ;D ;D ;D

i cannot accept any more white flags.

you said you could go to melbourne for the weekend and then return sunday night and roll into work monday.

you cant

I can.

And they were your words, not mine.

Three strikes, buddy - you're out!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:59pm

I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Yes, they were.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:06pm

what time are you dropping gweggy at the airport tomorrow for his weekend in melbourne carl?

and dont forget to pick him up sunday night so he can be ready for work monday.

now if you were going from sydney, you could do this.

but not from WA.

so much for your freedoms ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.

check the white flag in as hand luggage gweg

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:09pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Yes, they were.

Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good :)

Thank you Mr McGowan.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Yes, they were.

Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good :)

Thank you Mr McGowan.

what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with your lie that you could go to melbourne for the weekend and return and face no restrictions.

when carl picks you up at the airport i suggest you will both face hefty fines.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Yes, they were.

Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good :)

Thank you Mr McGowan.

what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with your lie that you could go to melbourne for the weekend and return and face no restrictions.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Not everyone shovels horse poo for a living.

You've had three strikes - you're out.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really? Under what circumstances (other than those elite exempted under very specific circumstances) can anyone else exit WA and return without quarantine?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm

i think the premier needs to be informed that you are intending to try to illegally return to WA after visiting melbourne.

The WA health websire lists melbourne as extreme risk and does not grant approvals to enter WA except for the rare people on franks list (MP's and military commanders for example).

so whats our exempt category?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm:

i think the premier needs to be informed that you are intending to try to illegally return to WA after visiting melbourne.

Nothing illegal about it at all.

I can go, return, and continue work the next day without breaking any laws.

If you "think" otherwise, let our wonderful Premier know.

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/people/mark-mcgowan

Let me know how that goes, okay?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?

Yep.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:30pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?

Yep.

How?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:09pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 6:59pm:

I could also have sworn those were aqua's words.

Ah, here we go...

aquascoot wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

so a west australian can fly from melbourne to perth on sunday night and go back to work monday morning?

Yes, they were.

Yep.

Three claims, and all three wrong.

No toll roads, no daylight savings, no pokies, no COVID, no masks, no restrictions.

Life is good :)

Thank you Mr McGowan.

what on earth have pokies and daylight saving got to do with ...

Oh, I'm just rubbing it in.

Thanks to Labor governments we don't have those things.

And, thanks to Labor governments we don't have COVID, masks, restrictions, or lockdowns.

Life is pretty good here :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 19^th, 2021 at 7:16am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:30pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

I can go, return, and continue work the next day.

Really?

Yep.

How?

If the reason you can do this is because you are one of the few exempt, it would hardly be the experience of 99% of west australians.

Given that, it's not worth raising it as proof that the state is actually open to residents in the way you imply.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Nov 19^th, 2021 at 7:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 18^th, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Not everyone shovels horse poo for a living.

No - but you do. ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:23pm

Another one for all the idiots who believe home quarantine is a great idea.

Woman allegedly breached COVID self-quarantine to shop in Fremantle after arriving from Darwin

Quote:

A woman has been charged after allegedly breaching her COVID quarantine to go shopping in Fremantle.

The 55-year-old woman from Leda, in Perth’s southern suburbs, arrived in Perth on a flight from Darwin on November 19.

In line with WA’s strict quarantine requirements, the woman was ordered to isolate at home for 14 days.

However, police allege the woman breached quarantine on several occasions, including by going to a clothes store in Fremantle.

She is also alleged to have stayed at another property, where she was not permitted to self-quarantine, and had not taken a 48-hour COVID test.

Its about time the authorities started making a real example of people like this with massive fines and/or prison time.

Quote:

Flight passengers are also ordered to have a health screening at Perth Airport and must wear masks to get to travel to their quarantine venue.

Hope they're doing a better job of screening here in Perth than what they're doing in Queensland. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 8:14pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Another one for all the idiots who believe home quarantine is a great idea.

Woman allegedly breached COVID self-quarantine to shop in Fremantle after arriving from Darwin

Quote:

Its about time the authorities started making a real example of people like this with massive fines and/or prison time.

[quote]Flight passengers are also ordered to have a health screening at Perth Airport and must wear masks to get to travel to their quarantine venue.

Hope they're doing a better job of screening here in Perth than what they're doing in Queensland. ::)

[/quote]

Shopping in Fremantle? :-/

Hardly the place to go shopping.

Anyway, keep up the hard border, Mr Premier.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 26^th, 2021 at 12:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 8:14pm:

Anyway, keep up the hard border, Mr Premier.

Seconded. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Especially with the developing Covid situation in South Australia (after being open for only 2 days).

https://twitter.com/SAHealth/status/1463785350745128962

And, forget Lambda and Mu (have these arrived in Australia yet?).... here comes the 'new and improved'.... *drum roll*... Nu variant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10238113/New-Botswana-variant-32-horrific-mutations-evolved-Covid-strain-EVER.html

Quote:

British experts have sounded the alarm over a new Covid variant believed to have emerged in Botswana that is the most mutated version of the virus yet.

Only 10 cases of the strain, which could eventually be named 'Nu', have been detected so far.

But it has already been spotted in three countries, suggesting the variant is more widespread.

It carries 32 mutations, many of which suggest it is highly transmissible and vaccine-resistant, and has more alterations to its spike protein than any other variant.

And, just like its predecessors it seems to have the 'magical' ability to teleport itself around the world. Simply amazing! ::)

Quote:

Scientists told MailOnline, however, that its unprecedented number of mutations might work against it and make it 'unstable', preventing it from becoming widespread.

They said there was 'no need to be overly concerned' because there were no signs yet that it was spreading rapidly.

Yeah, OK. But, I'm sure we all heard the same thing about the original Covid strain at the start of the pandemic nearly 2 years ago.

Nek minnit... over 5 million dead (and counting) worldwide.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 5:54pm

And... here we go... Mark is finally 'caving in' just like the rest of Australia.

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/covid-communications/covid-19-coronavirus-get-ready-was-transition

Quote:

Thanks to the efforts of the Western Australian community, WA will transition safely, easing its borders on Saturday 5 February, 2022.

All of these businesses (and Scotty from Marketing) that have been putting pressure on State governments to have everything reopened may find that it backfires on them badly here in WA just like it probably will in other States that are now "living (and dying) with Covid".

For one thing, from February 5th my elderly aunt and I will only be going out of the house (and spending money) when it is absolutely essential. I'm not risking her life (and mine) especially since I've been hearing that even the 2 doses of the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine we've both had are totally ineffective against Omicron.

Wonder if Mark is aware of that?

I strongly suspect a lot of people (especially the elderly) will feel and respond exactly the same way. Businesses won't be making too much money if people are not in the shops spending and staying home instead because they're worried about getting Covid.

Oh, and...

Quote:

* provide proof of being double dose vaccinated against COVID-19 when entering certain businesses, venues and large events.

*check in using the SafeWA app or a manual contact register.

Wonder who's going to be checking and enforcing that seeing as no-one appears to be doing it (check in using the SafeWA app or a manual contact register only) at the moment and LOTS of people here still don't bother checking in.

I've also heard that hardly anyone is checking in lately in the other States that have allowed Covid in because they don't want to be notified that they've been in a Covid 'hotspot' and have to spend Christmas in quarantine. Can't say I blame them.

Also...

Quote:

Masks will be required in high risk indoor settings, including:

*on public transport, taxis and ride share vehicles

While I agree with that (even though it wouldn't be happening if we don't allow Covid in) what will probably happen is a lot of people who normally use public transport will just use their cars instead causing even more congestion on the roads. Brilliant.

Total madness... all for the sake of the almighty dollar. As usual.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:04pm

All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:19pm

i think we can gaurantee that we are all going to get omicron.

it looks like the entire population of the UK and the USA will have it by christmas

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:39pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:

All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!

Another foolish State (with a Liberal government, of course) which had ZERO Covid cases for a very long time until they recently reopened and decided to 'let it rip'.

Another 12 new cases in SA today and the number of exposure locations continue to grow (the whole of Adelaide was listed as an exposure location a few days back).

With Christmas just a week and a half away can you imagine anyone in their right mind saying they've been in an exposure location and then having to isolate themselves for 7 or 14 days?

This also explains why the number of people checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper registers has started to drop dramatically in the lead up to Christmas.

Here in Perth I've spoken to a number of people on my 'shopping travels' this morning and they've all said the same thing I said yesterday... when WA reopens on February 5th and Covid gets loose they will be leaving their homes for essential reasons only which doesn't bode well for the WA economy.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses which will probably (once again) bear the brunt of reduced income with people staying home because they don't want to get Covid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:55pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:

All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!

they aim to survive, not to thrive. :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

they aim to survive, not to thrive.

Yeah, but as long as Qantas, Virgin, Flight Centre, tourism and the international student 'industry' are thriving too bad, so sad for everyone else, eh?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:03pm

Oh, and let's not forget the skilled migrant rorts which will no doubt be resuming very soon as well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:50pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

they aim to survive, not to thrive.

Yeah, but as long as Qantas, Virgin, Flight Centre, tourism and the international student 'industry' are thriving too bad, so sad for everyone else, eh?

carl , omicron is going to infect every australian in the next 6 months. thankfully it doesnt cause respiratory illness. just tiredness and headache.

the average chode hiding at home is already tired and has a headache from holding his head still whilst he absorbs endless stimuli from his tv.

he wont even notice the difference.

and the rare men who want to have adventures can get back to thriving.

this is what steven covey calls a win/win.

now run along and forget about covid.

aqua declares the pandemic over.

i know that rough if you are a pfizer executive or a chode

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 4:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:50pm:

aqua declares the pandemic over.

Phew! Thank goodness for that.

Almost as big a relief as Scotty from Marketing telling us that Omicron is nothing to worry about.

And, I'm sure both of you have exactly the same medical qualifications and expertise (i.e. NONE).

::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 4:11pm

One thing's for sure, it doesn't look like our hospitals will be prepared for the arrival of Covid in February.

COVID is coming to WA: Will hospitals be ready when border reopens on February 5?

Quote:

WA’s Health Minister claims he is essentially building the equivalent of an additional Perth hospital by opening up more than 500 new beds during the COVID pandemic.

But it hasn’t stopped almost endless Code Yellows, where WA hospitals have been at capacity.

One Code Yellow was even called as Monday’s media conference on COVID unfolded.

So, no different to every other Australian State it would seem.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 7:15pm

We might be getting Covid here in WA earlier than expected.

Three truck drivers test positive for COVID-19 after spending time in Western Australia

Quote:

Three fully vaccinated truck drivers from South Australia have tested positive for COVID-19 after spending time in Western Australia.

The cases stem from two different trucks that entered the state on December 9 carrying four drivers, with all testing negative for the virus at the border before being allowed in.

The first truck was carrying two drivers, who were in WA from December 9 to December 11.

Both returned positive PCR tests for COVID-19 after returning to South Australia.

"So it is possible both men were infectious during the three days that they were in Western Australia," Health Minister Roger Cook said.

Quote:

Separately, one of two drivers who were in the other truck, which similarly entered WA on December 9, has also tested positive after returning to South Australia.

I'm sure aqua will be delighted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 7:35pm

Freedom day is coming soon Carl so you just hang in there and get your triple booster shot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 7:38pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

Freedom day is coming soon Carl so you just hang in there and get your triple booster shot.

We already have freedom.

No masks.

No lockdowns.

No restrictions.

It's life as normal here in Perth.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 11:09am

A big shout out to today's West Australian for reminding everyone (unintentionally, of course) what reopening WA and the rest of Australia is really all about.

Doesn't matter if the peasants have to stay in their homes for fear of getting Covid after February 5th (with the resulting disastrous effects on small businesses, etc.) as long as the wealthy can start hopping onto planes again and travelling to Rome and other overseas destinations (the Perth to London flights will also be resuming soon).

The Letters to the Editor section is also full of people 'gushing' about how wonderful it is that WA is opening up on February 5th. Just one letter complaining about still needing to be tested for Covid and still requiring a G2G pass.

Wonder if the paper will give 'equal space' in tomorrow's letter section for all those who believe opening up is a really, really bad idea (especially after watching what's happening to the rest of Australia)?

Alan Joyce has no doubt been jumping for joy as I'm sure Jayne "we need to open up even if people die" from Virgin and Graham "better open all the States up soon or I'll take them to court" from Flight Centre have as well now that they can go back to counting their millions.

Can't remember where I read it or who said it but someone remarked a while back that some people would be prepared to stand on top of a pile of dead bodies to defend their wealth.

Can't argue with that after what we've seen and heard since the start of the pandemic.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 8:34pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 3:50pm:

aqua declares the pandemic over.

Carl is an example of how Covid is as much a psychic epidemic as a viral one. Lots of people are psychically 'infected' and have no ability to find their way back to equilibrium.
Covid, of course, is not the only psychic epidemic. As Jung said, "masses are always breeding grounds for psychic epidemics". With social media and electronic communication it has ben expanded and sped up. More and more people are unmoored from what sustains psychic equilibrium and thus become particularly succeptible to psychic epidemics.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 9:33pm

Carl is an example of someone who likes to believe there's a special place in hell reserved for those who put money and the economy ahead of peoples' lives.

Like we're seeing all around Australia right now.

Carl would also like to believe that when the time comes I'll have a 'ring side seat' to the above scenario (I'll even offer to fan the flames to keep them hot and strong from time to time as well).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 10:01am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:

All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!

they aim to survive, not to thrive. :'( :'( :'(

Sadly, it doesn't look like a lot of small businesses all around Australia will be thriving after borders are opened, Covid runs loose and people don't want to leave their homes.

This is a restaurant in Gympie, Queensland last night after Queensland's border was opened last Monday and compulsory masks were reintroduced yesterday.

Seen several more hospitality venues reporting a big downturn in customers in Queensland yesterday as well. Same thing will happen everywhere in Australia (including here in WA) after the borders reopen.

And...

Saturday 18 December – coronavirus cases in Queensland:

• 24 new locally acquired cases
• 5 new interstate acquired cases
• 2 new overseas acquired cases

But, as I said, as long as airlines and other associated big businesses are making money who cares about small business? Tragic.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 12:50pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 11:09am:

That's right, Carl. What Mark McGowan opening up WA to the world is really all about is Australians being allowed to leave.

I know, I know, so unfair. Still, you can always import a few to compensate. I'm sure there are plenty of people in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka or even the east coast of Australia, happy to travel over to WA to help pick crops or pack goods or work in your convenience stores - all the jobs you need filled while you're busy mining your iron ore.

The University of Western Australia can get some students, the Margaret River can get some tourists, your service sector can get some badly-needed labour, and WA can keep on keeping on while the trains load the ships and sail away with all that red dirt.

Some call it capitalism. Others call it globalisation. Others call it being awesome. I call it carrying on.

You?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 3:48pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 9:33pm:

We Australians like to think we’re a tough lot but the truth is we’re a bunch of bedwetters. It’s time we found our balls.

For months we have been told that when Covid restrictions eased case numbers would naturally increase but there was no need for panic.

And so what happened? Case numbers increased and we sharted our britches.

This is the inconvenient truth that Covid has exposed.

There are two Australias: One is the rugged, relaxed and confident character of our national mythos and the other is the anxious, angry and cosseted character who demands unconditional protection from all life’s slings and arrows.

When you get right down to it, there are essentially just two basic options for dealing with this disease: One is that we lockdown and lockout forever and the other is that we accept that eventually most of us will get Covid in some form or another.

This is what health experts have been saying ad nauseam as they pushed for higher vaccination rates and prepared us for life after lockdown. It seems that most of us nodded our heads but few of us actually listened.

Joe Hildebrand

So, Carl, please take the plastic sheets off the mattress and grow a set.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 3:48pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 15^th, 2021 at 9:33pm:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 9:34pm

Speak for yourself, wog. We grew here.

You can grow your own.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 9:40pm

Let's hope that Mark McGowan is smart enough (and I'm sure he is) not to allow what I've heard is happening in Queensland, South Australia and probably Tasmania now as well where people are getting tested for Covid prior to boarding the planes in Sydney and Melbourne and after they arrive in the abovementioned States they're allowed to wander around wherever and whenever they want to until the test results come back which could be days later.

And, when you also have the slackness described in these two Whirlpool forum posts happening its no wonder that Covid has 'escaped' and well on the way to making the abovementioned States end up like NSW and Victoria.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan has held off with opening WA up until February 5th so he can see the 'mistakes' being made by the rest of Australia and hopefully avoid them here.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 10:38pm

On Feb 5, you'll be in exactly the same position. That's the point of vaccines: high case loads, low hospitalisations and deaths.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 7:13pm

And, here we go...

Queensland couple test positive after arriving on flight from Brisbane

Quote:

COVID has crossed WA’s hard border, with two positive cases confirmed from interstate visitors.

A couple aged in their 30s flew in from Queensland before the State was elevated to medium risk.

The couple arrived in Perth on December 19 on Virgin Australia flight VA470 from Brisbane.

They have not spent any time in the community and went straight into self-quarantine at a home in Perth’s east with four relatives.

All four relatives have so far tested negative for COVID.

It’s not yet known whether the couple have the Omicron strain of the virus.

The new exposure sites include Perth Airport on Sunday from 10pm to 11pm and a 7-Eleven store in Midland on Monday at 12pm.

Fingers crossed this isn't going to ruin our Christmas like what's happening everywhere else in Australia.

Hint for Marky Mark... when you announce a border closure you need to do it IMMEDIATELY. Not 3 days later.

Anyway, we can't have a Covid outbreak here in WA just yet, wouldn't want to miss all of those staged videos and photos of joyous reunions at Perth Airport from February 5th like we've seen from all those now Covid infested other States, would we?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 6:15am

Carl D wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 6:04pm:

All of a sudden SA is having COVID cases! I wonder how that could have happened? Not!

Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 6:15am

Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 10:38pm:

On Feb 5, you'll be in exactly the same position. That's the point of vaccines: high case loads, low hospitalisations and deaths.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 7:04am

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 6:15am:

Alec Baldwin has still killed more people than the Omicron variant.

Wow, Alec Baldwin has killed 12 people (so far)? :o

UK Omicron deaths rise to 12

December 20 2021 - 8:12PM

Quote:

Twelve people in Britain have died with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus, Britain's Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab says, refusing to rule out a tightening of social restrictions before Christmas.

Quote:

In addition to the 12 deaths, Raab said 104 people were currently in hospital with Omicron. Officials warned last week that hospitalisations could hit new highs as the effects of the latest surge work their way through the population.

And, that's just in the UK.

That would make Alec a mass murderer, on his way to joining the lofty ranks of Scotty from Marketing and the rest of our useless politicians who knowingly allowed Covid (up to and including Omicron) into Australia and let it 'escape' causing 1254 deaths and counting.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 11:12am

Meanwhile, WA's daily 'rag' The West Australian continues with its long 'tradition' of ramping up the fear factor to sell more newspapers.

Who here in WA can forget their huge YOU WILL GET VIRUS headline from March or April 2020?

Today's 'effort' is XMAS COVID CASES ALERT then below it we have Majority back Feb 5 to end hard border as now it's Mr 77%

Wow, I didn't know until today that the population of WA was only 811 which is the number of people they surveyed. Probably in the wealthier suburbs too, I'll bet.

Of the 811, 46% believed February 5 was the "right time" to let COVID-19 in.

18% believed the date was "too late" (despite the Omicron surge in cases elsewhere).

The remaining 36% believed the border opening was "too soon".

Not surprisingly, older West Australians believe the virus is being let in too soon while the younger ones support the February 5th reopening date.

As I've said before - if Mark McGowan goes ahead with this very risky reopening I hope he won't be making all the same mistakes the other States have made but at the moment it looks like that's exactly what is going to happen.

* 1162 interstate arrival and departure flights and 260 international flights scheduled for Perth Airport in the week beginning February 5th.
* Just 227 interstate and 61 international flights this week for comparison.

What could possibly go wrong? ::)
But, I'm sure Qantas, Virgin and all the other airlines will be thrilled.

Bit of a worry too when the new Health Minister is also telling us it's time to open up. Wonder who's pulling her strings?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:33pm

hi carl

this brutal disease is devestating NSW.

number of people with omicron currently in ICU

zero

such a god send. you really want to catch this

you would be crazy to let delta in but you should be paying people with omicron to come to WA

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:40pm

I think you'll find the WA government will renege on the February 5 border reopening.

Already the AMA state president has already signalled that a review of the issue is 'highly likely'.

What will follow over the next few weeks will likely be a gradual shifting of political rhetoric towards reopening the border closer to March if not later.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:52pm

I hope so, MeisterEckhart.

As an example, my nearly 92 year old aunt has her Covid booster shot booked in for January 28th, Mine is a week later on February 4th which is a bit too close for comfort if the border does open February 5th.

I'll be keeping a close eye out to see if they change the timing of the boosters from 5 months to 4 or even 3 and if they do I'll be asking to have ours done sooner.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:04pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:52pm:

The best place to watch is not another Australian state, but New Zealand.

They have announced:
extending border restrictions to end of February,
booster shots brought forward to 4 months after the second shot,
48 hour testing prior to entry into the country,
all passengers on any inbound flight with even one passenger testing positive for omicron are to be treated as close contacts and forced into quarantine.

My guess is WA will be watching NZ as a political 'canary in the coalmine'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:38pm

It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 3:26pm

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:38pm:

It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

you cant be too careful ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 5:16pm

Round them god damned sheep up again Clem, the 3rd jab is now mandatory for all sheep in WA.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 5:16pm

It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 5:39pm

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:38pm:

It has been 645 days since expert advice to lock down for 15 days to slow the spread.

The experts are everywhere these days.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 8:01pm

https://youtu.be/5w0Vzjf0b5M

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:21pm

And, here we go... I'm sure people like aqua will be thrilled.

‘It’s arrived’: Masks mandatory, large events cancelled after COVID-19 case bar-hopped in Northbridge

Quote:

Masks will be mandatory indoors and major public events over Christmas will be cancelled after a COVID-19 case bar-hopped in Northbridge at the weekend while potentially infectious.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday afternoon, WA Premier Mark McGowan confirmed the case was a male backpacker who arrived from Queensland on December 12, when no border restrictions were in place.

The unvaccinated man, 25, entered WA just one hour before the border with Queensland was lifted to require travellers to self-quarantine when there was only a “handful” of positive cases in Queensland.

He has been in WA for 12 days staying in a house in Girrawheen with four other people and his girlfriend, who is symptomatic. All are considered close contacts. His housemates were camping near Mandurah and have been contacted by Health WA.

ONE HOUR... unbelievable!

I always suspected some idiot from the eastern States would ruin Christmas for everyone here. And, why the hell are unvaccinated backpackers being allowed into WA during a pandemic which is steadily getting worse?

And, once again, this is why border closures need to be implemented IMMEDIATELY when they are announced, not days later.

No lockdown but we might as well be having one because I don't think too many people will be out and about wearing masks in the heat we're going to be having over the next week... 42 degrees forecast for Saturday and Sunday for starters.

http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:28pm

wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

;D ;D

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:28pm:

wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

;D ;D

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves

Why am I not surprised that you're the first to reply? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:33pm

carl, your state has messed up.
the guy had delta and has interacted with hundreds of people.

i told you to make love to the sniffles version...omicron.

but , no, you thought you could outamart mother nature

now you have the deadly delta...the most severe variant.

when you try to hide from a threat, it gets stronger

Mr perrotet may be willing to send you some red cross packages full of omicron.

it would be of benefit to open them asap

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:38pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:28pm:

wont it be ironic if WA with one case is in lockdown for christmas and NSW with 30,000 is fully open.

;D ;D

you need to get mr perrotet to come over and save you from yourselves

Why am I not surprised that you're the first to reply? ::)

Maybe a case of misery loving company?

No one is poor until someone is rich.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:33pm:

carl, your state has messed up.

Yeah.

No COVID, no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions, no businesses closed.

A real mess.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 6:36pm

The European Union approved its FIFTH Covid-19 vaccine Monday, stepping up its battle against the omicron virus variant as the WHO called for greater efforts to ensure the pandemic ends next year.

So ending after 3 years, in 2022, is in no way sure. EXPERTS are calling for the fifth jab.

Will there be a sixth? seventh? What IS the EXPERT UBNDERSTANDING?? Uncertainty. They do not know.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 6:46pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:21pm:

And, why the hell are unvaccinated backpackers being allowed into WA during a pandemic which is steadily getting worse?

Right on, Jenny. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 6:49pm

Still won't get any argument from me, that's for sure.

She's also had a few more comments to make which I totally agree with, can't be bothered doing any more screenshots right now so here's the thread if anyone's interested:

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1473912044340408320

Oh, and Mark McGowan ... sorry, Mark's social media team... if you must insist on making announcements, etc. on Facebook you really need to change the settings so you don't need to have a Facebook account just to read it.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 9:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 5:33pm:

carl, your state has messed up.

Yeah.

No COVID, no lockdowns, no masks, no restrictions, no businesses closed.

A real mess.

No immigration.

Oh-er, the old boy's having an existential crisis.

Colonialism ended far too soon, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 2:45am

Looking through this thread, Raven is astonished to see those on the east coast acting disgusted with our approach to COVID and hoping we get our "comeuppance."

No doubt they are reacting with glee now that we have confirmed cases.

What the f.uck is wrong with you? WA's government chartered a course through the pandemic and the people supported that course. Democracy in action.

And all you've done is piss and moan about how our State has decided to handled COVID.

Is it the tall poppy syndrome? You can't handle the fact that some of your fellow Australians are living a carefree life?

Take comfort. After Feb 5 we will be the same as you. High number of infections, similar death toll. We're already on par with NSW with our mask mandate.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 5:25am

incorrect.

if my neighbours had super anxious kiddies who cried and shook with fear at the prospect of having to go to school because they were very scared.

and if my neighbours said they wear going to isolate those children and keep them at home and safe, if they were going to "chart a course" which the kids approved of, if they were going to gloat when one of my kids skinned their knee in the playground and tell me how irresponsible i was for not putting my kids safety first and foremost

i would call them out on it.

i would say to my neighbours

youre kids are going to have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life but it will be mediocre.

i'm not attacking them because i want their kids to get hurt.
i want their kids to experience all there is to experience.

your premier is acting like an over protective mother hen and it is a co dependant relationship with an anxious population.

there is nothing good about it

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:00am

This sign should be on every street corner in Australia.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:00am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 5:25am:

And so ends today's 'sermon'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:04am

What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:05am

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:00am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 5:25am:

And so ends today's 'sermon'.

Not a sermon

Sound advice on the damage that's your mother hen Premier is inflicting on the mental state of your population

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:19am

I have to go up to our local chemist in a few hours to pick up some tablets for my elderly aunt. I only need to wear a mask after getting out of the car to go into the chemist, thank goodness.

I'll be interested to see how busy it is up at our local shops today with 39 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.

The mask mandate here is supposed to be lifted on Tuesday morning (at the earliest). Just in time for the Boxing Day sales. Maybe.

Edit: the Boxing Day sales are actually on Boxing Day, December 26th. I thought they might have been on the Tuesday holiday with Boxing Day being on a Sunday.

In that case it will be really interesting to see how busy things are on Sunday with 42 degrees forecast and compulsory masks.

Also, spare a thought for a lot of (especially elderly) people who can't afford to run their airconditioners (if they even have them) on the extremely hot days we have coming up here so they usually spend most of the day in shopping centres where it is cool.

Can't see them wanting to sit around all day in shopping centres with masks on, even if it is a lot cooler than staying home.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:52am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:04am:

What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend

382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:21am

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:19am:

Yes, but should they not rejoice at the opportunity to sit in shopping centres and catch covid?

They should have taken Aquascoot's advice. They've had over a month since lockdown ended to hit the gyms and get in shape.

Chodes, lives of pure garbage. The evolutionary blowtorch is our friend, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:41am

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS ::)

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS ::)

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.

Now now, Greggery. In three months time, Aquascoot can say he warned us of all this. Drink fresh vegetable juice, he'll say, do some star jumps, go for a run round the block. The chodes only have themselves to blame.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

You?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:33pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS ::)

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.

your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS ::)

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.

your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.

It may not happen overnight, Aquascoot, but it will happen.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:41pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:04am:

What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend

382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.

In mid September there were 1200 people in hospital, Musta Faken.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/dec/17/covid-19-australia-data-tracker-map-cases-today-coronavirus-tracking-stats-live-data-update-by-state-melbourne-regional-victoria-vic-sydney-nsw-how-many-new-active-case-numbers-statistics-deaths-death-toll

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:56pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:19am:

Actually, I might also have a look at Belmont Forum while I'm out to see how busy it is there today compared with the past week. I strongly suspect a lot of people will now be staying home (just like in the other States) instead of shopping and having to wear masks and even then run the risk of getting Covid.

Wow, very busy at Belmont Forum when I went near there about an hour ago. Didn't stop and go inside, just drove along the streets around the outside of the shopping centre. The carparks that I could see were full with people driving up and down looking for a parking spot.

Probably last minute Christmas shopping despite the heat and masks. Or maybe people have started panic buying in anticipation of a lockdown after Christmas? I'm pretty sure we would already be in lockdown if it wasn't for Christmas.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:57pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:41am:

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

aqua lives in a completely different reality to the rest of us.

Omicron has only been in the country a few weeks (barely), and aqua is quoting stats is if they're the final tally.

FFS ::)

Let's see what he has to say in three months' time.

your definitely improving

thats an excellent post.

It may not happen overnight, Aquascoot, but it will happen.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled, no?

Your elderly auntie in earlier times?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 3:31pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 7:04am:

What's disastrous about it Carl

0 people in ICU with omicron in the whole of New South Wales

You need to redefine disaster my friend

382 in hospital.

53 in ICU.

12 on ventilation.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx

Evolutionary blowtorch, innit.

Oh, I see. Thanks, old boy.

What was the vaccination rate in mid-September?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 3:41pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 1:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 9:19am:

Fascinating. Car parks full in shopping centres.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 1:22am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 5:25am:

First up, Raven calls b.ullshit on you telling parents how to raise their children.

Secondly, how very condescending of you, referring to us as children.

We're not "super anxious" we always knew COVID was going to get to WA. Infact it's here now.

Saying we have a miserable (though admittedly safe) life is a sad indictment on your mindset.

Trying to frame the argument as WA being scared children hiding is negated by the fact that we are reopening.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 9:54am

Now, we know vaccination is not that great at all. No brain politicians only believed vaccination and took no prevention steps 2 days ago. It has given disastrous COVID-19 consequence to Australia national wide except WA.

Even it's low death rate, people sick and isolation will still cost a lots in economy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 9:54pm

McGowan will be tested in the coming days after shutting xmas down is his state, no cricket no travel no parties and mandatory masks and 3rd jab with no notice.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:15pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 9:54am:

Now, we know vaccination is not that great at all. No brain politicians only believed vaccination and took no prevention steps 2 days ago. .

The no brain sheeple believed the no brain politicians on anything with vaccine. The sheeple don't think their politicians tell lies.

No we have advice the vaccine loses effectiveness after 10 weeks with Omicron so the sheeple will be lining up for 5 booster shots a year.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:25pm

With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 7:15am

Johnnie wrote on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:25pm:

With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.

Well, hardly anyone bothered getting tested yesterday (Christmas Day + 43 degree heat) and I couldn't really blame them. 2 new cases reported.

Can't see too many getting tested today either with the Boxing Day sales on and 44 degrees forecast.

And, while it was disappointing for the passengers involved (especially at Christmas) I just have to point out the irony here:

Airport chaos as dozens of flights cancelled on Christmas Eve

Quote:

Thousands of travellers have been dealt a huge blow after Jetstar cancelled dozens of Christmas Eve flights across the country.

More than two dozen flights were pulled from their domestic schedules on Friday, with popular routes heavily impacted, throwing plans into disarray.

Jetstar confirmed flights have had to be cancelled because frontline staff have needed to get tested and isolate as close contacts.

At least 14 Jetstar and Qantas flights between Sydney and Melbourne have been removed on Friday.

Ten Qantas and Jetstar flights between Sydney and Brisbane have been axed, while four flights between Sydney and the Gold Coast were cancelled.

A Virgin Australia spokesperson confirmed while no flights were cancelled on Friday, schedule changes had been made throughout the week.

Same thing has been happening worldwide.

As I said... I had to point out the irony because the airlines were one of the main businesses pushing for borders to be reopened regardless of Covid, even if ‘some people may die’ in one particular case.

I don't usually believe in Karma but its nice to think that's what is happening to the airlines here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm

As the blistering heat continues in WA dictator McGowan has applied the blow torch by shutting down all new years activities after a close contact of one case of the Omicron variant has been detected in his state.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 8:46pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 7:15am:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 25^th, 2021 at 10:25pm:

With 40 plus degree heat in that hell hole tempers must be frayed with McGowan's bizarre behaviour.

lol

airlines save people from dying you silly billy.

and they save young healthy people .

when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly

The official death toll for the September 11 attacks stands at 2,996, including the 19 hijackers, but research suggests that there is a further, indirect toll as a result of behavioural changes induced by fear.

In the months after the 2001 terror attacks, passenger miles on the main US airlines fell by between 12% and 20%, while road use jumped.

The change is widely believed to have been caused by concerned passengers opting to drive rather than fly. Travelling long distances by car is more dangerous than travelling the same distance by plane.

Measuring the exact effect is complex because there is no way of knowing for sure what the trends in road travel would have been had 9/11 not happened. However, Professor Gerd Gigerenzer, a German academic specialising in risk, has estimated that an extra 1,595 Americans died in car accidents in the year after the attacks – indirect victims of the tragedy.

it is vital to reopen airlines to save lives.

as you are well aware.

"you cant put a price on a human life"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 10:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 8:46pm:

lol

airlines save people from dying you silly billy.

and they save young healthy people .

when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly

lol
lol
lol

and lol x 10 again...

Airlines are responsible for spreading Covid around the entire globe.

Same as they are responsible for spreading the flu around the globe every year since international air travel began.

And, they're also responsible for the Covid outbreaks in the previously Covid free Australian States of Queensland, South Australia and Tasmania. Aided and abetted by their idiot Premiers, of course (Frank, please take note - I'm including a LABOR Premier in there).

Do you think Covid and the flu grow wings and fly from continent to continent and State to State here in Australia by themselves?

How do you think Omicron has now become the dominant Covid strain around the entire world in less than 2 months?

Anyway, let's have another look at this 'classic' (after I've picked myself up off the floor where I was rolling around in fits of laughter):

Quote:

when you close airlines people have to drive and driving is way more deadly

Yeah, especially if you need to travel from say, Australia to the United States or the United Kingdom. Make sure you pack your scuba gear, for starters. ::)

There's definitely a "Silly Billy" here and I'm pretty sure it isn't ME.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 10:28pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

One really has to wonder what's going on with our idiot politicians including Mark McGowan (Frank, I'm criticizing another LABOR Premier here, that's 2 in 2 posts... yay for me!) when Mark is making everyone wear masks for another week in the stifling heat we're having here at the moment and also causing the cancellation of New Years Eve events because of ONE CASE when he's still planning to make the same mistakes the other States have made after he opens everything up at 12:01 AM (12:01...lol... and not one second before, I'll bet... typical government idiocy) on February 5th and 'let it rip'.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 5:37am

Carl D wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 10:28pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

mark should tell you to bounce out of bed , put on your running shoes and commence the marathon.

south africa is kicking back with a beer
hospitals coped no worries.

mark knows that western australians dont want to do the brutal miles , so he is letting you all have a sleep in.

of course , each day he waits, your immunity drops.

its a non fruitful path but the chode rarely thinks about anything but instant gratification

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:57am

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:57am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 5:37am:

I have to admit Mark is a bit on the boring side.

All his social media team ever posts on 'his' Twitter account are daily Covid reports almost every day since the start of the pandemic.

I also have to wonder if Mark and his 'team' have shares in Facebook seeing as you need to have a Facebook account to read the information in the FB links they post?

That's a big 'get stuffed' from me, by the way.

On the other side of the country I notice Annastacia's team in Queensland now has daily warm, fuzzy feel good stories about her garden and pets, endless 'thank yous' etc, etc. which are an obvious attempt at deflection from her incompetence with allowing Covid into Queensland when it was Covid free for so long. Just like South Australia and Tasmania have done.

I'm also expecting a flood of 'feel good stories' from Mark's social media team after February 5th when Covid starts spreading though Perth's population (if it isn't already thanks to our backpacker 'friend') and we're expected to wear masks for eternity and have other previously unnecessary restrictions to deal with as well.

A pox on the lot of them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:00am

**flip page**

Morning, Greg - good to see you've also survived the weather we've had here since Christmas Day.

I've had a running battle with trying to save my front and back gardens from being burnt to a crisp and I'm expecting a big increase in my next water bill.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:00am

* flip page x2 *

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:01am

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has repeatedly criticised the Palaszczuk government’s position and escalated his attack on Monday.

“This is passive aggressive stupidity from the Queensland Premier at her worst. Getting rid of PCRs for tourism testing is absolutely critical so there can be a focus on the clinical needs of patients at risk,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

“South Australia has seen the light and someone needs to switch on the lights in the Queensland Premier‘s office.”

He claimed there could “easily be another 100,000 to 150,000 tests purely and simply for people who want to holiday in Queensland” before the end of the year.

Mr Hazzard, who has been urging NSW residents only to get PCR tests if they have coronavirus symptoms, on Sunday accused Ms Palaszczuk of “effectively perverting the purposes of pathology testing”.

His comments follow days of disagreement between the two states as the demand for testing in Sydney and regional NSW continues to exceed capacity.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:22am

Yep, that's what it was all about in Queensland when Annastacia decided to let Covid loose there - tourism $$$

Australians caught up in testing bungles speak out, Qld tourism testing sucking 'energy' out of NSW

Frustration and heartbreak as COVID-19 testing delays force some to spend holidays alone

Quote:

Nationwide delays in releasing COVID-19 results have upturned many Australians' holiday plans.

Some people have waited up to six days for test results, while others have been given negative tests clearing them to mix with family and friends, only to then be told they are actually positive.

Quote:

New South Wales Health Minister Brad Hazzard has slammed Queensland's requirement for incoming travellers to get tested for COVID-19, saying it is putting unnecessary stress on his state's testing capacity.

Queensland is one of three open states that require tests to enter, and the requirement for travellers to produce a negative PCR test will not be reconsidered until January 1.

"The focus should be only on clinical testing. The energy and capacity of pathology is being sucked out of New South Wales," Mr Hazzard said.

"Over the next four days we could have up to 600,000 tests and a quarter of those will be purely and simply for tourism to Queensland."

I'm off to grab a few bags of popcorn... there's nothing quite as entertaining as watching State Premiers 'battle it out'.

Especially when one is Liberal and the other Labor. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 9:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:57am:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption ::)

If there's one thing I've learned since the start of the pandemic its that Covid doesn't attend sporting events or infect any of the players and spectators... like the AFL, NRL, cricket, tennis and horse racing (the Melbourne Cup back in November).

Mind you, I'm sure Covid is smart enough (its definitely smart enough to keep outwitting our stupid pollies and big business leaders) not to bother attending what is no doubt one of the most pointless and boring events on the social calendar here in Perth... the Perth Cup which will probably be held in stifling heat as usual - spare a thought for the poor horses.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 9:31am

Quite a few of us here in Perth might be asking Mark McGowan the same question after February 5th.

I'm pretty sure low income families especially won't have the money to spend on a weekly mask supply. More than likely they will keep using the same masks week after week which will no doubt do wonders for their overall health. Not.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 11:14am

Carl D wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:00am:

I haven't moved from the house.

Aircon has been on 24/7.

Was 46 here on Christmas Day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 12:19pm

Front page of today's West Australian has Mark McGowan telling us masks will probably be here to stay after February 5th.

Why? If you're going to make the same stupid mistakes South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania have made then what's the point?

I thought we were supposed to have a Safe Transition Plan for February 5th?

Doesn't seem too safe to me when the first thing I see is:

Quote:

...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.

Our way of life doesn't include having to wear masks or have any other restrictions except for the past week since that idiot backpacker decided to do a Covid tour of Perth lasting over a week (the last 2 or 3 days were even after he began to feel sick).

And, Marky Mark goes on to say that masks have been highly effective in stopping the spread of Covid in the eastern States. Really? I think its about time you took off those rose coloured glasses and had a good look at what's happening over there.

Well, I still admire Mark to a certain degree for resisting the pressure from Scotty from Marketing and businesses to open up for as long as he has.

I'll be sitting back from the safety of my home after February 5th (as I'm sure many will be doing instead of being out and about spending money) when a lot of these same businesses that pushed for reopening then start complaining they've lost customers and they'll have to close or severely restrict their opening hours. Just like what's been happening in the other States.

I'll have my popcorn standing by ready to enjoy the show.

Oh... and a special congratulations are in order to Queensland today for joining the quadruple digit club.

Hope you're paying attention, Marky Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 2:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:57am:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption ::)

Ah, the Noble Man, punting on his GGs on the "narrow road to success".

Unless he loses, then it's the highway to chodedom, those with dicks wider than they're long.

Either/or, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 6:19pm

First we have...

‘Get tested’: WA Premier Mark McGowan’s blunt message to close contacts

Then we have...

Close contacts of French backpacker stifle WA trace efforts by turning off phones

(Subscriber only article as usual but the 'headline' tells the story)

Carl's solution: If they're also backpackers here on visas then fine them, cancel their visas and deport them. Immediately.

If they're citizens or permanent residents of Australia then it should be a big fine and/or jail time.

Time to stop 'pussy footing' around and start making a real example of some of these selfish idiots.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:46pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 2:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 7:57am:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:

He's allowing the Perth Cup to go ahead though.

It seems that gambling has a special exemption ::)

Ah, the Noble Man, punting on his GGs on the "narrow road to success".

Unless he loses, then it's the highway to chodedom, those with dicks wider than they're long.

Either/or, no?

a tragedy is currently unfolding in perth.

their top jockey, William Pike has refused to be vaccinated.

i will shoot him thru an email.

he is right not to trust politicians but he may trust a fellow horseman

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:38pm

Send him your booster, Aquascoot, that might do it.

He'll need it. He feeds his horse a bowl of hay a day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 9:04pm

he wont have it currently.

i sent him an email saying
you cant fight city hall and that the best way to beat the chodes in the bureaucracy would be to get the vax, earn millions of dollars, buy a SUV, get a hot girlfriend and then splash muddy water all over the fat public servants who make these rules.

hopefully william will reconsider.

the superior man will face many obstacles

being a little cry baby and a quitter is not the path of the superior man

the superior man will sleep on it, develop a plan and bounce out of bed and implement that plan.

thus , all adversity, all haters, all critics, all complaining family and jealous chode friends are merely used as fuel to inspire action.

haters provide the emotional juice to propel you onto glory.

fat public servant beauraeucrats serve as the fuel on this journey
the heroes path.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:59am

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 8:01am:

Brad Hazzard has a hide to criticise anyone least of all Anna Palaszczuk .

He & Kerry Chant & Gladys Bignose let Covid loose on the Nation ....

they did nothing but let it run rampant in NSW until they were forced to implement border closures & the same restrictions as other states.

Too little too late.

Now they & all the Federal Tory(LNP) politicians want to infect all of QLD with their escaping Covid lepers .....

and see the state slowly shut down business by business(by stealth)..

instead of all at once & short term with previous lockdowns to prevent it running rampant....

the end result will be the same as what you have been complaining about ....

are you too thick to see that?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 7:06am

Carl D wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 12:19pm:

...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.

Stupid mistakes because of the whinging business sector & people like Scoot et al.

Now the idiots are whining because they are being shut down one by one as staff and patrons test positive.

Serves the bastards right.

The same thing will happen in WA.

And yes it is quite reasonable for you to ask why were all the restrictions enforced in the first place ... all that has been a wasted exercise now.

But for a time we QLDers were a lot more free & relaxed than the 2 states that think they're the only ones of importance.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 7:08am

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 2:30pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 7:06am:

We already have a lot of anger brewing here over New Years Eve cancellations despite no new Covid cases being reported yesterday.

But, the Perth Cup isn't being cancelled, of course.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-28/wa-events-industry-laments-covid-19-rules-extension/100727486

Quote:

After almost two years of last-minute cancellations, strict COVID-19 rules and a lack of overseas talent, Western Australia's events industry had been hoping this New Year's Eve would be the start of its recovery.

But those hopes were dashed by the state government's announcement that coronavirus restrictions would continue until at least January 4, in part due to low testing rates.

While Ascot Racecourse will be allowed to welcome crowds for the Perth Cup on January 1, New Year's Eve events that were expected to host thousands of revellers — including music festivals — have been canned.

But, I'm sure Mark McGowan will keep us all safe here in WA until exactly 12:01am on February 5th when Covid will be allowed to cause the same chaos here as it is causing in the other States.

No doubt all the little Covid viruses have set their microscopic alarm clocks for the 'big day' in February already and are raring to go 'on the dot' at 12:01am.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 2:38pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 2:30pm:

But, the Perth Cup isn't being cancelled, of course.

Of course not.

Mark's not gonna take on organised crime syndicates.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 4:26pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 7:06am:

Carl D wrote on Dec 28^th, 2021 at 12:19pm:

...and WA’s way of life can continue safely with the introduction public health and social measures once COVID-19 enters WA’s community.

You let us in. What did you expect us to do? Mask up and self-isolate?

Come come. We NSWers ran around Queensland coughing on everybody and infecting you. Remember, you people asked for it.

Ask Aquascoot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by goosecat on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 4:58pm

It's official;
Of the 11 random people at my local IGA all taking part in the pop-up check-out survey, 7 were in favour of keeping WA borders permanently shut and just 4 were against Lol.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:03pm

Goose wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 4:58pm:

It's official;
Of the 11 random people at my local IGA all taking part in the pop-up check-out survey, 7 were in favour of keeping WA borders permanently shut and just 4 were against Lol.

awesome people arent filling out surveys in IGA's

they are too busy being awesome

sampling bias

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:03pm

its official

i surveyed 11 people at my local gym and they were all in favour of letting it rip

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by goosecat on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:23pm

More non-awesome people, including yourself apparently lol.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:29pm

Goose wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

More non-awesome people, including yourself apparently lol.

the first part of your sentence is certainly true

most people spend their time durping around.
they bounce out of bed and their entire aim is to be stimulated as much as possible and remain as safe as possible whilst doing so.

porn, sweet and fatty foods , gaming, netflix and alcohol are the easiest way to be safely stimulated and so thats their life.

the life of pure garbage.

maybe you think becoming a fat , porn addicted, cry baby who wallows in self pity and wants an authority figure to keep him "safe' is a meaningful existence

i dont.

but i acknowledge thats how most people live their lives.

they dont really live them

they just exist and seek out ways to distract themselves, stimulate themselves and remain safe

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:29pm:

maybe you think becoming a fat , porn addicted, cry baby who wallows in self pity and wants an authority figure to keep him "safe' is a meaningful existence

Well, this guy sure did:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 9:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:03pm:

its official

i surveyed 11 people at my local gym and they were all in favour of letting it rip

80% of them had strong authoritarian tendencies, which will of course emerge under the right conditions.

Read your Zuby. That's four times the national average, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 11:18pm

Mark McGowan said recently that only something like an "emergency" would cause a delay in WA reopening on February 5th.

Well, I'd have to say the current "emergency" (unfolding disaster, actually) in the eastern States should qualify as a reason to keep WA's borders closed.

Here's hoping.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Dec 31^st, 2021 at 12:05pm

Dear media - please stop normalising neurotics who are going to spend the rest of their lives in a self-imposed lockdown, hiding from a virus against which they are vaccinated. Please instead consider referring them to mental health services. I am respectfully begging you.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Dec 31^st, 2021 at 12:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 6:29pm:

i acknowledge thats how most people live their lives.

they just exist and seek out ways to distract themselves, stimulate themselves and remain safe

As you admit, the instinct of nearly every human who has ever lived - where they have the wherewithal to do so.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31^st, 2021 at 3:48pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 29^th, 2021 at 11:18pm:

Agreed.

And Mark gets to determine what an emergency is, so he very clever in using that terminology.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Dec 31^st, 2021 at 4:56pm

Covid is coming to get you lot out West, make no mistake.

It's Marks final defiant last stand, Feb the 5th or bust.

New years has been shut down and all interstate visitors and festivities are no longer allowed in WA because of that one filthy disease carrying back packer.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 31^st, 2021 at 5:16pm

Ted Cruz confuses Washington state with Western Australia in attack on Covid ‘kill-joys’

The US Republican mistook a Facebook post by the Australian state on New Year’s Eve party restrictions for an edict by the Democrat-run state

Quote:

US senator Ted Cruz has been ridiculed for posting a tweet in which he mixed up the American state of Washington with Western Australia while criticising Covid restrictions.

The Republican politician – who tried to win the party’s presidential nomination in 2016 – retweeted a post by the government of Western Australia, whose handle is WA Government – that appeared to advise a woman that dancing would not permitted at a New Year’s Eve party at her home.

Quote:

Cruz, who has campaigned against pandemic restrictions, took it as cue to attack the Democrat-led state of Washington, whose widely used abbreviation is also WA, saying that those in leadership were “power-drunk authoritarian kill-joys”. This was despite the fact that the original tweet did not mention Washington.

A lot of Americans also don't know the difference between Australia and Austria from what we've seen over the years.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 12:18am

The selfishness and stupidity continues...

The George COVID rules breach as 300 party the night away on NYE

Quote:

About 300 party-goers are understood to have breached New Year’s Eve COVID rules by partying the night away at Perth’s The George.

It’s understood police stumbled across the party while patrolling the Perth CBD last night.

The West Australian understands police will now launch a major investigation into the incident which has set off alarm bells given the new outbreak of COVID-19 in Perth.

Police attended The George as part of a routine inspection around 11.30pm on New Year’s Eve and found the doors locked and the windows blocked out.

Officers could not get in through the front door and so scaled the wall to get inside where they will allege they found “several hundred” people attending a private, ticketed event.

Police Commissioner Chris Dawson said he had seen vision of many of the guests flouting mask-wearing rules and dancing, with evidence SafeWA QR code posters had been ripped off the walls.

So, no excuses then... can't say they didn't know because it was obviously deliberate.

Quote:

Mr Dawson slammed the venue for its “blatant disregard” and of the COVID restrictions and warned the operators of The George faced fines of up to $250,000 and losing their liquor license over their “selfish behaviour”.

Let's hope so.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 8:19am

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:28am

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 12:18am:

The selfishness and stupidity continues...

The George COVID rules breach as 300 party the night away on NYE

Quote:

So, no excuses then... can't say they didn't know because it was obviously deliberate.

[quote]Mr Dawson slammed the venue for its “blatant disregard” and of the COVID restrictions and warned the operators of The George faced fines of up to $250,000 and losing their liquor license over their “selfish behaviour”.

Let's hope so.

[/quote]

Let's hope they all get the book thrown at them.

I know the room they partied in quite well.

I've attended many functions there - it's right out the back of the building, hidden away.

Pity, it's a good pub, but I hope they get shut down for this.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:45am

:'( :'( :'(

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!! >:( >:( :'( :'(

Punish!!! PUNISH!!

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:50am

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:45am:

:'( :'( :'(

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!! >:( >:( :'( :'(

Punish!!! PUNISH!!

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)

Exactly.

Own goal.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:50am:

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:45am:

:'( :'( :'(

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!! >:( >:( :'( :'(

Punish!!! PUNISH!!

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)

Exactly.

Own goal.

:D

You dickheaddles were boasting how normal your lives were in WA. But now you are baying for punishment for dancing even as you have an average of 4 cases a day in a state of 2.6 million.

Your are out of your minds (no news there).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:52pm

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:50am:

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:45am:

:'( :'( :'(

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!! >:( >:( :'( :'(

Punish!!! PUNISH!!

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)

Exactly.

Own goal.

indeed frank.

actually they are hypnotised.

how do you hypnotise someone?

you get them to focus on one thing, put all their attention on it

covid, covid, covid covid covid.

then you use a repetititve monotone to induce a durr state

keep you safe, keep you safe, keep you safe.

after 2 years of focus on one word and 2 years of monotonous repitition of catchphrases, they are now puppets.

its really not their fault.

they are just easily hypnotised and too lazy to think for themselves

safety safety safety

keep the community safe

from a cold virus :D :D :D

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 3:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:50am:

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 9:45am:

:'( :'( :'(

People were DANCING on new years eve!!! How awful!! >:( >:( :'( :'(

Punish!!! PUNISH!!

(7 day daily average case numbers in WA: 4)

Exactly.

Own goal.

:D

You dickheaddles were boasting how normal your lives were in WA.

They were, and still are.

Hardly any cases of COVID, and all we do is wear a mask inside.

Life is good :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 3:26pm

As insane as WA

Walking your dog is no longer an exception to Quebec's curfew
However, the provincial government indicated it would again permit dog walking as soon possible.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/walking-your-dog-is-no-longer-an-exception-to-quebecs-curfew

Other idiotic Australian states also limited time spent outdoors - until they did a complete about-face and encouraged time outdoors.

It's about pandering to the gweggys and Carls, the hyponotised brown shirts (and browned pants) of society.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:20pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

China is the biggest customer would they be fuxked as well if production is slowed or stopped?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, what sort of 'reality' are you living in? Come on, tell us... we'd really like to know.

Ambulance services buckling as COVID-19 surges in Australia

Gary Alvernia
30 December 2021

Quote:

With the Omicron variant fuelling a rapidly rising COVID wave across Australia, healthcare services are already being overwhelmed. One of the most critical indications is extensive ambulance response delays and understaffing.

Quote:

In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.

aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. :D :D :D

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:23pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:35pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

What's outrageous is the owners of The George and the customers blatantly ignored public health orders and possibly endangered the entire community.

Can't say they didn't know because the cancellation of these type of New Years Eve events, compulsory masks required and no dancing were well publicised last week and the fact that the owners took down the SafeWA QR code posters and blacked out the windows to hopefully avoid attracting attention means they knew exactly what they were doing.

Not wearing masks and dancing also means the customers also knew what they were doing was in breach of public health orders.

Throw the book at the lot of them, I say.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:40pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

send them to the Russian Front

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 7:29pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Absolutely.

The maximum fines should apply to the selfish individuals, and the pub (although I like to drink & eat there often) should lose its liquor licence.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 5:54am

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome ;D ;D ;D

[quote] In Sydney, Australia’s most populous city, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that the average response time on December 22 was one hour for life-threatening emergencies (called P1 emergencies). P1 emergencies include heart attacks and patients rendered unconscious, and most must be seen within 10 minutes.

A senior operational manager at New South Wales (NSW) Ambulance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there were significant “wait times in offloading ambulances” at public hospital emergency departments, causing up to four-hour response delays to triple zero calls.

aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. :D :D :D

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.[/quote]

ambulance services are overwhelmed because of people lhave been terrified by the catastrophising main stream media who love a crisis

people like gordon who are sensible, have panadol, vit d and zinc and take "personal responsibility" for their health.

rather then ring an mbulance and screech about "me,me,me"
they take a few panadol and then go mow the lawn.

i have no doubt that 50 % of tyhe australian population have lost the ability to take on ANY personal responsibility for their health (one only has to look at the 70 % overweight statistic) and at the first sign of a runny nose or sore throat will dial 000.

its going to cost lives because they will clog up the system with their hypochondria and prevent "real' cases getting thru.

we need to educate people NOT to call an ambulance the moment they get a positive test

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 6:17am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

You anti everything tools always play the lowest common denominator trying to score a point.

They weren't being "punished" for dancing ...

they were being punished for ignoring the Covid regulations of 1."limited numbers" in an enclosed area indoors and 2. Not wearing face masks when they can't social distance(dancing) indoors.

No regard for anyone else in the community... just self indulgent arseholes.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 6:21am

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome ;D ;D ;D

aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. :D :D :D

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

Thanks, Victor Sunny. We all hope so too.

Not just the mining industry but also many small businesses (especially hospitality) will be badly affected by a Covid disaster like the rest of Australia is experiencing at the moment.

Went for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets today and it was very quiet. Normally very busy on Sundays, The New Year may have had something to do with it but I also suspect many people (especially the elderly) don't want to leave the home and have to wear masks.

I spoke to one of the shop owners I know there and she said they expected to suffer a downturn in business if compulsory mask wearing continues and definitely suffer a big downturn after February 5th when the virus is unleashed on WA.

I also asked why the shop across from her was closed and she said the lady who owns it decided not to open because she cannot tolerate having to wear a mask all day. I didn't ask if that shop was also closed for the last 3 days as well but it probably was (the Markets are open Thursday to Sunday most weeks).

So, small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth and that's just from compulsory masks.

Mark McGowan will hopefully delay WA's reopening for another 6 months at least. Apart from the threat to the mining industry and small businesses suffering, we also need more time for as many people as possible to get their Covid booster shots.[/quote]

Again utter BS ...... there have been ramping issues going on around the country & you well know it was going on in QLD well before Covid ...

and it has got worse with COVID.

Do you ever tire of making up BS just to make a post about wishing COVID on the community & especially our most vulnerable?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 6:24am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:22pm:

I would like to see video of police climbing walls to get in. ;D

People dancing in licensed premises it's outrageous.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

send them to the Russian Front

I'd say that's what should happen to you - spreading all misinformed tripe that you peddle ad infinitum.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 6:30am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 5:54am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 6:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 1:52pm:

from something that is probably currently infecting 100,000 NSW people with no ramping of ambulances or people jostling for a hospital bed.

covid derangement syndrome ;D ;D ;D

aqua derangement syndrome is more like it. :D :D :D

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2022 at 5:33pm:

I wish WA can control the virus. If mining industries were affected by the virus, then Australia economy would be pretty much fuxked in 2022.

ambulance services are overwhelmed because of people lhave been terrified by the catastrophising main stream media who love a crisis

people like gordon who are sensible, have panadol, vit d and zinc and take "personal responsibility" for their health.

rather then ring an mbulance and screech about "me,me,me"
they take a few panadol and then go mow the lawn.

i have no doubt that 50 % of tyhe australian population have lost the ability to take on ANY personal responsibility for their health (one only has to look at the 70 % overweight statistic) and at the first sign of a runny nose or sore throat will dial 000.

its going to cost lives because they will clog up the system with their hypochondria and prevent "real' cases getting thru.

we need to educate people NOT to call an ambulance the moment they get a positive test [/quote]

Not very observant of you ... his pic had a photo of a box of Aspirin.

And you need to take care with that because it can cause stomach problems & a few other side effects.

It's recommended it only be used under doctors direction and for cardiac problems only.

Not COVID.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:00am

Follow the science, Carl, Dr Aqua is right. Tsk, tsk ::) ::)

Hit the gym hard to fight off anxiety
Vigorous exercise should be used to treat people with severe anxiety, a study suggests.

Researchers found that patients who took part in a 12-week group exercise program with different intensities of activity experienced a reduction in their anxiety symptoms.

Malin Henriksson, a doctoral student at Gothenburg University and one of the researchers, said: “There was a significant intensity trend for improvement — that is the more intensely they exercised, the more their anxiety symptoms improved.”

The paper, published in the Journal of Affective Disorders, concluded: “Exercise has few side effects, is inexpensive and overall beneficial for general somatic health.”
The Times

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 6:25pm

A few observations after spending about 2 hours at Belmont Forum today.

1. I lost count of how many people I saw walking around wearing masks under their noses, under their chins or not wearing one at all (and no-one, not even security did anything about it).

2. Places selling takeaway drinks must be making a fortune lately judging by the number of people I saw with a takeaway coffee or cold drink seemingly permanently attached to their hands (and their masks permanently under their chins or no sign of a mask whatsoever) while they walked around the centre.

3. I'm pretty sure that walking around the shopping centre with your mobile phone glued to your ear and talking doesn't qualify as an exemption to keep your mask under your chin or have no mask at all.

4. The SafeWA app or pen and paper register may as well not exist as far as a lot of people are concerned. Same goes for social distancing. And, no-one bothers to check that people are complying, of course.

5. It seems to be getting close to the point where the number of 'abandoned' masks in the shopping centre carparks (tossed on the ground as people get into their cars) will soon equal or exceed the number of empty shopping trolleys left lying around (too lazy to take them back to a trolley return area - even if its only 2 cars away from where they are parked).

Seriously, with all this going on daily, when (not if) Covid gets loose here in Perth we are all going to be royally screwed just like the rest of Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 6:34pm

it will be short and sharp.

27 % prevalence in nsw today on a random sample of 100 people.

they probably have a million cases.

it will be all over in 3 to 4 weeks and they havent gone anywhere near running out of ICU beds

in fact of the 80 people in ICU, 58 are there with delta!!!

omicron is a blessing

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.

Quote:

“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

[quote]“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:17pm

Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:17pm:

Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be :-/

Went for lunch today at Baci Cafe in North Perth Plaza with my elderly aunt (Donna and the staff at Baci are fantastic, by the way. Great food).

After lunch we had a look around Coles and bought a few things we needed but there were no shortages of anything as far as we could see. Not even toilet paper... plenty available.

Oh, we can drop the masks (for the time being at least) from 6pm tonight except for 'high risk' areas like hospitals, aged care homes and public transport but we'll be taking a few masks with us whenever we leave the house from tomorrow just in case.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:54pm

Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

Quote:

Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.

Umm... wouldn't it be easier (not to mention a hell of a lot safer after seeing the Covid disaster which has happened to the rest of Australia) NOT to open up on February 5th?

At least not until everyone has a chance to get their booster shots?

If I see staged photos and videos of 'joyous reunions' at Perth Airport on February 5th (like we saw in the other now Covid infested States when they reopened) I'll have to try very hard not to throw up... or throw something at the TV screen.

Mark McGowan is obviously under incredible pressure to reopen the border from ScoMo and big business... let's hope he can hold out for at least another 6 months or so but I doubt he will be able to.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

[quote]“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

[/quote]

incorrect

a state of flourishing

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

Quote:

Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.

the easy route is usually the wrong route

its easier to buy a big mac then to construct a salad
its easier to drink to free yourself up then to become awesome whilst sober
its easier to watch porn then find a quality woman
its easier to be a spectator then a player
its easier to be an employee then an employer
its easier to take steroid then lift weights in the gym
its easier to give your kids an ipad then take them camping

and yes it is easier to sit in a safe space then move forward with a spirit of adventure

its also more mediocre as the easy path always tends to be

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

incorrect

a state of flourishing

Still in the fantasy world of 'aqualand', I see.

The only things that are 'flourishing' in the rest of Australia are Covid cases, hospitalisations and sadly, deaths.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

[quote]“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

incorrect

a state of flourishing
[/quote]

Indeed.

More death. A shortage of workers. Food shortages.

So much flourishing.

Not in WA though. I wonder why :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Head of WA's COVID-19 contact tracing reveals massive effort to gear up for state's reopening

Quote:

Contact tracers are gearing up ahead of Western Australia's anticipated reopening date, as more and more locations around the state are listed as potential exposure sites.

the easy route is usually the wrong route

its easier to buy a big mac then to construct a salad

Ah.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Thanks, but I've already had lunch. ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:08pm

the chode always averts his eyes when offered a more noble path

safety and timidity is his approach to life.

and outrage at people who dont value safety and timidity ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:26pm

Pity the WA State election wasn't being held this year in March instead of last year because I'm absolutely certain Mark McGowan wouldn't be opening up (or even be thinking about it) on February 5th if that was the case.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:32pm

It is not covid decimating the workforce, it is the covid rules.

During lockdown - 'allowed' 1 hour exercise outdoors. Considered, scientific, sensible?? No, of course not but fineable.

Now - stay out doors, open windows, get exercise and sun.

Same health officials advice, 6 months apart.

Covid action, climate action - the same mindless 'do something' yappers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:32pm:

It is not cid decimating the workforce, it is the covid rules.

During lockdown - 'allowed' 1 hour exercise outdoors. Considered, scientific, sensible?? No, of course not but fineable.

Now - stay out doors, open windows, get exercise and sun.

Same health officials advice, 6 months apart.

Covid action, climate action - the same mindless 'do something' yappers.

Hitting the Johnny Walker Blue, old boy?

We don't have lockdown in Perth.

We don't even have to wear masks much any more.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, ...

The citizens of Western Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

[quote]“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

[/quote]

WA needs to stick to it's guns & keep it's borders shut ....

and from what has happened here since they were opened & what's happened in NSW & Vic where they are about to reintroduce harsh restrictions(de ja vu you dopey Tnucs) Palaszczuk should have kept QLDs borders shut.

Our public health systems are overrun, understaffed & under resourced to deal with
highly contagious wave of the "very mild" Omicron variant.

Idiots.... those here know who those idiots are.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:55pm

Should have left the double up because it appears some here need telling more than twice how stupid they are.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:17pm:

Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be :-/

Certainly is here in regional QLD ... no tissues, no toilet paper, no domestos type cleaner in Woolies today.....

many other food stock items not on the shelves.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

Quote:

[quote]“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

incorrect

a state of flourishing
[/quote]

You have definitely drunk all the Cool Aid ... idiot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.

Be funny if you're riding it prematurely in a hearse ey? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 7:17am

If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am

With 90%+ vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:45am

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 7:17am:

If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo.

Would be nice but I do believe most of us here in WA would not want to lose him to Canberra.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks

Victoria put up with 260 days of lockdown with nothing to show for it
Now all the eastern states have to put up with is maybe 30 days of people having bad head Colds
And then we can resume human flourishing

People who are so risk averse that they are scared of a head cold
Really need the help of our mental health services
To treat their insane and unrealistic death anxiety

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:31am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-called-mild-who-warns

Quote:

The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.

And, where will this fabled "herd immunity" come from for a virus that continues to mutate plus it is able to infect people more than once?

You sound like most of our politicians with their 'heads in the sand' approach which has allowed this Covid tsunami to be unleashed on most of Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:50am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-called-mild-who-warns

Quote:

The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.

The WHO have made numerous misleading statements with Kung Flu starting with no evidence of human to human transmission.

The WHO redefined herd immunity claiming we can get if from vaccination despite those who make the vaccines saying this will be impossible.

Quote:

AstraZeneca Scientist Says Delta Variant Makes Herd Immunity Impossible. Here's Why

Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" now that the Delta variant is circulating.

Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious.

But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people," Pollard said.

https://www.sciencealert.com/delta-variant-means-we-can-rule-out-herd-immunity-says-astra-zeneca-developer

NSW and VIC are 2 of the most highly vaxxed places on earth yet cases are exploding among the vaxxed.

Once upon a time the WHO might have been great these days they're next to useless.

Why did they redefine herd immunity i wonder how much big pharma contributes to the WHO budget.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

Soooooo..... With 90+% vaccination rate what catastrophe are you forecasting?
You forgot to say.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:34pm

New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 1:15pm

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.

Die, dear? You, dear?

Come come. One can only die once, no?

As every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 1:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, ...

The citizens of Western Australia.

I say, are you letting cadavers in yet?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 1:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:34pm:

New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why :-/

ACT..........................1,305 cases and 0 deaths (so far).

Queensland.............. 11,174 cases and 2 deaths.

Tasmania.................. 2,223 cases and 0 deaths (so far).

South Australia.......... 3,707 cases and 2 deaths (yesterday, no numbers for today yet).

Update: 4,274 cases and 5 deaths for South Australia today.

Northern Territory...... 594 new cases (the true 'Gold Standard' Howard Springs quarantine facility for overseas "returned travellers" served them well unlike the other States' city hotels - until the NT foolishly scrapped quarantine after they reopened their borders on December 20th and relied on vaccination and tests which were obviously as big a failure as they were for the other now Covid infested States).

WA.......................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I'm also wondering why? :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 2:01pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us.

Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end.

Be funny if you're riding it prematurely in a hearse ey? ::)

People die their own deaths, not statistical ('premature') deaths.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 2:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:34pm:

New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths.

Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths.

WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths.

Hmm, I wonder why :-/

thats a tiny tiny tiny number of deaths considering the number of infections.

this is a very mild disease

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 4:17pm

China and WA are going great guns but China is only holding out until the winter corona games are finished, McGowan looks like he is in it for the long haul waiting for another variant.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by miketrees on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm

I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up
The childrens hospital had 64 patients waiting in emergency because there were no beds available
That was the week before Christmas
I think the plan is to open up in Feb and get past the peak infections before the winter flu builds up the numbers in hospitals

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:54pm

miketrees wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm:

I suspect we will have a problem in WA when we open up

Yep.

It won't be good.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 9^th, 2022 at 12:07pm

Well, my elderly aunt and I intend to make the most of the next 4 weeks because there's a definite possibility we won't be leaving the house after February 5th except for essential shopping (if the supermarket shelves are not empty like what's happening over east) and we'll also go out for the occasional drive, only getting out of the car where there's not a lot of people around.

Found this cartoon this morning which sums things up here at the moment rather nicely, I believe.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:55pm

miketrees wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm:

If WA want the virus, Queensland is a big example. Do you have enough test for spiking cases or hospital beds? Can you afford the supply chain or transportation to be stopped by virus? ... A lot of questions to be answered before opening. It is better to setup a set of conditions and open up slowly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:59pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:55pm:

miketrees wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm:

incorrect.

people are currently , recently double vaxxed.

and so their immuntiy is currently at it s peak and will only decline over time.

it is safer to get the disease when your immunity is at its peak .

ie right now

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 8:23pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

incorrect

a state of flourishing

Still in the fantasy world of 'aqualand', I see.

The only things that are 'flourishing' in the rest of Australia are Covid cases, hospitalisations and sadly, deaths.

Aqua's problem with WA is that we don't follow the conservative narrative. Hard borders don't work, mandates don't work and economies suffer.

WA has a massive surplus and strong economy whilst the eastern states, who have opened up have seen their spending slump to "lockdown" levels.

Despite being "open for business" spending across dining and retail in the eastern states has dropped considerably.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 8:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

incorrect.

Being double vaccinated is almost totally ineffective against Omicron.

Everyone (or as many people as possible) need to have their booster shots and so far very few people have had them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 8:49pm

Interesting opinion piece in today's West Australian by Andrew Miller about the impending reopening of WA on February 5th.

He says that soon after the 'sugar hit' of Love Actually type scenes of joyous reunions at the airport the majority of West Australians will then experience huge reductions in health, freedom and business. Just like what has happened in the other States.

He hopes Mark McGowan has been paying attention to all of this and tries to make sure we are as prepared as we can possibly be if we do reopen in 4 weeks time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 9:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:55pm:

miketrees wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm:

Don't fool yourself by vaccination like politicians. 93% vaccinated in NSW and still over 40, 000 contracted with virus a day. What's a "joke"? even flu vaccines won't be like this. Prevention works better than vaccination on COVID-19

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Victor Sunny on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 9:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 7:55pm:

miketrees wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:59pm:

I won't trust vaccine much. One of my friends, his son got and he got it. Both double vaccinated. However, his wife unvaccinated and didn't get COVID.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 9:52pm

NSW has a population of about 8.2 million.

The total double vaxxed (12+ years old) is about 6.5 million.

so, just under 2 million of the total population are unvaxxed.

Those unvaxxed requiring hospitalisation are in the vast majority in NSW.

If New Zealand's figures (which are easy to find) are a guide for NSW:

'Based on the cases in the last fortnight, unvaccinated people are 5 times more likely to get Covid-19 than people who have received two doses, and 81 times more likely to be hospitalised.'

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 9:53pm

duplicate

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by JaSin. on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 9:54pm

Only Politicians and Political people (like Protestants) die from this Politically spread disease from a Politically oppressed Chinese nation of Political filth.

Enjoy ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 11^th, 2022 at 7:57pm

A great COVID-19 divide is widening in Western Australia as the state edges towards its reopening date

Quote:

Two West Australian epidemiologists are calling for the state's border opening to be delayed to avoid a potential health "catastrophe" but, in a clear divide, key sectors of the economy warn any delay would be disastrous for jobs and businesses.

And there it is in a nutshell... most people want the WA border to stay closed, businesses want it open. Haven't they been watching what's going on over east or do they think things will be different in WA after February 5th?

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan is sticking to February 5 as the date when Western Australia's isolation ends, telling people to hurry up and get vaccinated against COVID-19.

That is despite the Premier acknowledging there has not yet been any health modelling on the impact of the Omicron variant in WA, although it is due "in coming weeks".

Don't need to wait for any modelling, Mark. Just look at what's happening to the rest of Australia.

Meanwhile...

ServiceWA app launches to help keep WA safe

Quote:

The WA Government has launched the ServiceWA app – a free, convenient and secure mobile application that will help Western Australians with WA’s Safe Transition.

The app allows people to show proof of their COVID-19 vaccination, check in at businesses and venues with SafeWA, and access their G2G Pass for interstate travel - all in one convenient place.

It helps people access important COVID-19 information, including how to prepare a household for COVID-19, where to get tested, where to get vaccinated and exposure location sites.

The ServiceWA app requires the user to set up or use a Digital Identity to create an account to prove who they are online - meaning the app is safe, secure and not accessible by anyone else.

"WA's Safe Transition" ;D ;D ;D (sorry, I shouldn't laugh but I can't help it).

So, no longer content to just keep using the current system - SafeWA app and vaccination certificate from Medicare to show when requested we are now going to have this all encompassing app that requires a Digital ID to set it up.

Looks like the pollies' (of ALL political persuasions) wet dreams are slowly coming to fruition using Covid as an 'excuse' - an app which everyone will need to have on their phone (the SafeWA app will be phased out eventually) so we can be tracked wherever we go 24/7/365.

Together with a cashless society which is what we're also well on the way to becoming (once again using Covid as an 'excuse') including a cashless card for all welfare recipients (including age pensioners) it looks like 1984 is finally arriving even if it is nearly 40 years late.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 11^th, 2022 at 8:15pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 11^th, 2022 at 7:57pm:

Looks like the pollies' (of ALL political persuasions) wet dreams are slowly coming to fruition using Covid as an 'excuse' - an app which everyone will need to have on their phone (the SafeWA app will be phased out eventually) so we can be tracked wherever we go 24/7/365.

Together with a cashless society which is what we're also well on the way to becoming (once again using Covid as an 'excuse') including a cashless card for all welfare recipients (including age pensioners) it looks like 1984 is finally arriving even if it is nearly 40 years late.

Don't forget to ditch your smartphone. It cannot be switched off and signals to cell towers constantly. You have been trackable since the day you first used that phone.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 11^th, 2022 at 10:13pm

Off to a good start.

New COVID app ServiceWA leaves users feeling frustrated after lengthy set up process and technical issues

Quote:

West Australians have expressed their frustration at the being forced to sit in queues and navigate a long and complicated process to sign up for the State Government’s new COVID app, with some even refusing to download it at all.

The ServiceWA app launched today is designed to house a proof of vaccination certificate, location check-ins and G2G passes in one place ahead of the February 5 border reopening.

Premier Mark McGowan told how “will be an incredibly important and useful tool for Western Australians as we head into WA’s Safe Transition”.

But, it wasn’t long before West Aussies vented over the frustrating set-up, which involves moving between two apps and remembering several login details and passwords.

“Well, setting up the #ServiceWA app may cost you your sanity. Good luck,” one Twitter user wrote.

I won't be touching this until the current SafeWA app stops working. Might not even bother then because, as I've said already, once Covid gets loose here (if it hasn't already) I'll be leaving the house for essential shopping only.

Might even have to look at getting home deliveries instead.

Assuming the supermarket shelves are not empty like they are over east, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:03am

:D :D :D

https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:03am

:D :D :D

https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:53am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

;D
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:59am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

;D
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.

Like adding 'la' or 'meh' to the end of sentences as Malaysian and Singaporean English speakers do?

Or the Canadian / Kiwi 'ay' at the end of sentences?

Or the Australian habit of abbreviating words to a diminutive by appending'-ie' or 'o' or 'a'? Do even Australian public speakers refer to going to the football match or the footy?

Language evolves to suit the regional speakers of the language.

If adding 'one' is the norm for Aboriginal English speakers of a particular region, then, so it is.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:10am

Another thing that speakers of the Australian vernacular (the Australian broad accent - i.e. Strine) should understand: Other English speakers usually do not perceive it as cute or cool (as we may think they do). They often perceive it as slovenly and trashy.

It is likely responsible for perpetuating the myth that we speak the way we do because we are all descended from convicts and talk in the same trashy way our 'underclass ancestors' did.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:14am

It is a pathetic one, isnt it, ey, but f**k. There, four different dialects.

Because just saying 'it is pathetic' is unintelligible without a 'one' or 'ey' or 'isn't it' after it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:20am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

It is a pathetic one, isnt it, ey, but f**k. There, four different dialects.

Because just saying 'it is pathetic' is unintelligible without a 'one' or 'ey' or 'isn't it' after it.

G'day made ehyagahn?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:47am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

Pidgin & Creole are based on English

there was very little actual tribal language in it.

It was a bullshyte exercise .... as other dialect users across the state would not have understood that either.

It was in fact laughable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:51am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

;D
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.

Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:56am

Gnads wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

;D
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.

Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.

Are you aboriginal?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 11:03am

Gnads wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:47am:

as other dialect users across the state would not have understood that either.

It was in fact laughable.

It's possible that speakers of other aboriginal vernaculars would not have understood it.

The question would be: did it help the Noongar, Yamatji, Wongi people of Western Australia understand it more clearly when spoken in a vernacular they could more easily comprehend?

Monolingual English speakers are usually the laughing stock throughout the world, largely not least for their blind ignorance of the respective local English spoken.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:26am:

A great first step towards acknowledging Australian pidgins, creoles and dialects.

Let's see politicians learn and speak phrases in local Aboriginal languages as well.

It's pathetic. Sorry - " it is pathetic one".

Why?

There are a myriad of dialects spoken in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas, why should Australia be any different?

;D
It's not a dialect when you stick 'one' after every second adjective.

If he said her lines, which he easily could have, people would be up in arms about mocking and ridiculing Aborigines.

Aboriginals would have been able to understand McGown without an interpreter.

If you could call her that.

Some(older) may not have a good grasp on speaking full English, but they understand it.

Any aboriginals who find it easier to understand her than him have zero hope for a normal, healthy life. And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out, him speaking slowly and with great effirt to articulate, as if talking to hard of hearing retards - and then her garbling and mumbling and fluffing her words. She is clearly struggling with finding a way to 'Aboriginalise' even further his simple, clear words.

And if any white person spoke to Aborigines like that they would rightly feel insulted, ridiculed and mocked.

Sofg bigotry of low expectations preening as cultural sensitivity.

It is a pathetic one, isn't it, but.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:03pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:17pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?

In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:19pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?

In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8

Almost identical to how non-Australians perceive the broad Australian accent.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:30pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?

The old boy wouldn't be too happy with that, Meister. Frank's always said how important indigenous consultation is, it's just the way he is.

Consultative, innit.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:34pm

Thankfully the rest of us have Sir Les Patterson, Rodney Rude and Kevin bloody Wilson as our cultural ambassadors.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:51pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

And it is simply a condescending insult to all Aborigines to roll them out,

Are you presuming the McGowan government did not seek advice from Noongar (etc) elders about this?

In what language?

https://youtu.be/sqnjYpwo1h8

Almost identical to how non-Australians perceive the broad Australian accent.

Strange. I could have sworn the old boy assimilated.

Oh well. At least he's not tinted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:22pm

She doesn't undestand whatever the hell she is saying. Nor anyone else.
Look, listen and throw up. This is closing the gap.

Fccn outrageous and stupid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ellymelly/status/1481035540963426306

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:34pm

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

Fccn, eh?

Who's been spying on Aussie pencil cases, as every schoolboy knows?

I got detention for that. Your prog teachers back in jolly old Scandinavia probably gave you an award.

What did they give you for writing CUNT on your knuckles in Liquid Paper?

A holiday to New South Wales?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:36pm

FCCN

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:37pm

OATH

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:22pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

Fccn, eh?

Who's been spying on Aussie pencil cases, as every schoolboy knows?

I got detention for that. Your progressive pedagogy-set back on jolly old Scandinavia probably gave you an award.

What did they give you for writing CUNT on your knuckles in Liquid Paper?

A holiday to New South Wales?

Please trnslte into Abrignl one.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 12:18am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 9:22pm:

G
Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

Please trnslte into Abrignl one.

No speaka Danish here, wog. This is Aussie. You speaka English here, okay? Choppie choppie.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 2:19am

Frank wrote on Jan 12^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

Gin one do good job, Gowan one hard understand sometime one.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:11am

Hard to believe that so many Australians are ignorant of the multiple indigenous languages still spoken today as a first language in remote Australia with a kriol used as a lingua franca in remote communities.

Reminds me of the Chamberlain tragedy when aboriginal elders in central Australia tried to advise mainstream Australians that dingos were more than capable of snatching unattended babies but were ignored and scoffed at as ignorant and backward.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 6:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:11am:

If they sent their kids to school we wouldn't have this dialect problem.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 1:55pm

Here's the toilet roll shelves of our local IGA in Kooyong Rd. Rivervale this morning.

Just some tissues left. I think that might be paper towels on the top shelf, I didn't have a good look.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? Nearly 2 years after the Great Toilet Roll Panic of 2020 surely everyone would realized by now just how ridiculous hoarding toilet paper is? :D

Especially since we're still 3 weeks away from WA's Grand Reopening & Let It Rip Day.

We need a new Covid variant that only targets stupid people - trouble is, if that happened there wouldn't be too many of us left on Planet Earth which may not be such a bad thing come to think of it...

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:03pm

Speaking to Europeans, this obsession with toilet paper seems to be an 'Anglo' thing.

Ironic that tissue paper isn't hoarded, being, as it is, an effective catch-all for every leaking hole.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:15pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 1:55pm:

I went to the Vic Park Woolworths today, and they didn't have a single pain killer on the shelf.

All Panadol, Nurofen, and Aspirin completely sold out. Not a single pack left.

In the meat section, there was just one pack of sausages, a couple of packs of gravy beef, and a single pack of chicken mince.

Strangely, there was still some toilet paper left on the shelves. Not much though.

People are idiots.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:28pm

Hi, Greg.

I didn't have a look at the shelves with Panadol and other pain killers while I was at IGA but I'll bet they were empty as well.

This is what started the 'Panadol Panic':

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10385667/Covid-Australia-Panic-buying-PANADOL-doctors-urged-Australians-stock-up.html

Coles has now put limits on buying Panadol and other painkillers (and toilet rolls, pasta, etc.) but I wouldn't be surprised if the 'tag teams' are back in action again - one family member or friend goes in to buy as many as they can then they come out and the next one goes in and so on...

Just like what was happening when panic buying started at the beginning of the pandemic 2 years ago.

So much for "we're all in this together" and "let's all look after each other" and all the other meaningless, feel good things we've heard over the past 2 years.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:28pm:

As soon as I heard that guy on TV say this:

'The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home.'

I knew it would result in panic buying.

FFS ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 3:41pm

Just look at what the mandating dictator has done to you lot, you are all alone confused and isolated from the rest of the world with a leader playing Russian roulette with mother nature, yikes!

Pretty soon the rest of Australia will be mandating West Australians to stay put as their infection numbers surge from Feb 5th and the rest of us get back to some normality, we don't want them here.

https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/wa-vaccine-mandate-to-expand-state-wide-from-31-january.html

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:29pm

I still have to ask (as a lot of people are asking)... who is going to enforce these mandates? Checking vaccination certificates, etc.?

Because, as has been said many times already... I'm sure the staff at these places where vaccination proof will be required would rightfully say that it isn't their job and they're not getting paid enough to do their normal jobs as well as checking and putting up with abusive customers who don't have or don't want to show proof of vaccination of which I'm sure there will be many.

And, if this is 'enforced' the same way check ins and social distancing, etc. are 'enforced' right now (i.e. they're not) then the whole thing is a complete waste of time and effort.

But... that's government for you. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm

the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:41pm

Oops...

Twitter calls Australian minister Mark McGowan sick for getting speech translated to Aboriginal-English

Quote:

Mark McGowan, the State Premier of Western Australia, has a big role to play in preventing the Covid spread in Australia. His job involves taking measures to prevent misinformation around vaccination, especially in areas where vaccine rates are low.

One such measure is getting brutally trolled because it has come off as a supremely racist initiative.

Why?

Because it seems that the minister looks at the Aborginals as some "uneducated folk who cannot understand plain Australian English".

Careful, Mark... most of us already suspect you're been 'bullied' into opening WA up to Covid just like what's happened in the other States but we don't want you to 'lose the plot' before February 5th.

We want you to keep a clear head and remain focused in the Covid crisis over east so you can hopefully make a snap decision to keep WA closed for at least another 6 months.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm:

the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The irony of aqua telling us over and over that Omicron is mild and we all need to catch it as soon as possible.

Try telling that to the families of the 56 people who died of/with Covid around Australia in the past 24 hours.

NSW - 29 deaths
Victoria - 18 deaths
South Australia - 6 deaths
Queensland - 3 deaths

Tragic and completely avoidable (as I'm sure will be brought up in a future Royal Commission).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:49pm

Another good reason not to open up on February 5th.

How COVID-19 could ‘incapacitate’ FIFO camps when WA opens

Quote:

Miners could face the end of two years of prosperity where they remained almost untouched by COVID-19 within Premier Mark McGowan’s fortress WA when the state opens up in three weeks.

Yep, can't afford to have the mining industry crippled by Covid. Keep the border closed, Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm:

the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic

They're idiots.

There's nothing to panic about.

Unless, of course, you're unvaccinated.

Life's about to get real hard for the Novaks of Perth.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:42pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm:

the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

those are such tiny tiny numbers

we were told at the start it had a case fatality rate of 1 to 2 %.
which would be 250,000 to 500,000.

now you are getting all bent out of shape by single figures!!!!

eh gads man

have you lost your mind !!!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm:

the irony of gweg and carl scalding people for being in a state of panic

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

those are such tiny tiny numbers

we were told at the start it had a case fatality rate of 1 to 2 %.

If someone you love dies from COVID, they're 100% dead.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm

but the numbers are so tiny

we really dodged a bullet.

time for gratitude i would think

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Get back to us in about 6 months when we will have the 'double whammy' of Covid and the flu to deal with.

There's even reports from overseas that some people have caught both at the same time, they call it Flurona.

Interesting times ahead. And, probably not very pleasant times for a lot of especially vulnerable people, unfortunately.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:55pm

covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

not even close

self inflicted disease is way more common and thats what is clogging up our hospitals.

they are overflowing with heart disease, diabetes,cancer and mental health issues mostly due to people lack of "personal responsibility" for their health.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:08pm

everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

the marathon must be run.

nsw is close to the finish line, victoria close behind, qld is putting in a noble surge.

WA is still in bed, hiding from the physical education teacher who is looking for their sorry asses and is going to drag them , kicking and screaming , to the start line .

hopefully the citizens of WA have spent the last 2 years doing brutal training to prepare

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.

Now now, Greggery, people should be grateful to be coughed on. If they catch obesity their condition could become terminal.

Covid's a state of mind. The placebo effect can be very powerful indeed.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.

everyone wants a quick fix.

just a jab and youre done, youre healthy

health doesnt work like that

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.

soft and sloppy individuals most certainly do catch it

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.

The jury's still out on that one, Greggery. They've done studies where they show weak-willed people pictures of cakes, KFC, Maccas, etc. They put on 5kgs without eating a thing.

The mind is a powerful tool, you see. Place it in the hands of a chode and you get what you expect. Lives of pure garbage.

Put it in the hands of a truly great man, however, and you can achieve miracles.

Fore!

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

health doesnt work like that

You don't have to answer, but, if you choose to (cos if you do, this thread will ramble), how does health work?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

duplicate again

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

covid and the flu will NEVER take out as many people as self inflicted things like junk food and obesity.

You can't cough on someone and give them obesity, you ignorant tool.

everyone wants a quick fix.

just a jab and youre done, youre healthy

health doesnt work like that

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:35pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:08pm:

everyones getting omicron whether someone coughs on you or not.

You can't catch obesity you uneducated, ignorant fool.

i wasnt aware the big fella lived in WA

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:53pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

health doesnt work like that

You don't have to answer, but, if you choose to (cos if you do, this thread will ramble), how does health work?

well the first thing any healthy individual does (mentally healthy that is) is to fully accept that we are on this earth for a very very short time.

and to spend 2 years treading water in the false belief that you can create a 'safe space" is sheer lunacy.

i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

it makes you 'bounce out of bed with a plan"

the insulated urban individual does not want to confront this harsh reality
( in the same way he chows down on a bacon snadwich but doesnt want to see the appalling life of the pig in a cage)

covid is just a tiny dose of this reality and it freaks people out.

that alone reveals how delusional they are and what a false reality they are living in .

they could confront this reality and use it as motivation to work on their fitness and their nutrition.

but i suspect that even confronting that death is approaching rapidly and trying to "do" something would create unbearable death anxiety for them

as they ran around the block every morning at 5 am , they would be thinking "i am doing this because i dont want to DIE young" and that would create existential fear.

so they outsource that responsibility to "authority figures" (politicians, chief health officers, doctors , cops ) to "keep them safe"

it never works because thats not reality.

i think it would be good if everytime someone died, the corpse stayed in the house for a week and the kids and grandkids got to hang around it and accept death as part of the reality of life.

the pandemic has revealed a few things

one is the incredible level of death anxiety in society

two is the incredible desire for safety

both are non fruitful modes of being

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 7:53pm

LOL! ;D ;D ;D

From today's West Australian.

I haven't tried downloading and setting this up yet (still using the SafeWA app which is supposed to be phased out before too much longer).

Doesn't inspire me with much confidence. And, as others have pointed out, why can't our vaccination status be linked to the existing SafeWA app like it has been in other States with their check in apps?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 8:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:53pm:

i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

That's very true.

Death has been sanitised or censored for the convenience of the metropolitan so that we can live with the delusion that its inevitability should be a only a concern to people of a netherworld.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

Downloaded the new ServiceWA app and tried to set it up on my Samsung Galaxy S5 phone which I've had for nearly 5 years which Samsung haven't provided any updates for since 1st March 2017. Running Android 6.0.1

Got to the part where it says I need the myGovID app to get a "digital identity" for the ServiceWA app to work.

Tried to download and install the myGovID app and I get the message "This app is not compatible with your device". :D

What a joke... if the WA government expect me to buy a new phone to run their new app then they can think again. Or, they can pay for it.

I'll keep using the SafeWA app to sign in at shops, etc. and when it stops working I'll just use pen and paper. I already have my Covid vaccination certificate on my phone and I'll also print out and laminate a paper copy and carry that with me too like I've done for my aunt's certificate.

Idiots.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

We dont laugh at you yet, Carl, we'll save all that for Feb 5th, when we storm your airports and kill your chodes.

Don't worry about Aquascoot, he'll stay isolating on his farm, watching the Superior Man drive past on the freeway, his hot babe filly by his side, coughing, his Maccas wrappers landing on Aquascoot's front lawn, causing Aquascoot to curse and call his long-suffering wife to rescue the Superior Man's rubbish, dispose safely and sanitise.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 6:53pm:

i get why people are so scared of death

they never see it

in the bush , you see it all the time

Aquascoot lives in a suburban housing estate on the hinterland of the Sunshine Coast, Meister. His local Maccas drive-thru is less than a k away.

The long-suffering Mrs Scoot has to bribe Aquascoot from driving thru between meals, as you do.

Fore!

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:39pm:

Now that's comedy!

More of it!

We're not getting through this without it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 15^th, 2022 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Went back up to our IGA again this morning and, sure enough... all the painkillers were gone. Same with all the toilet rolls.

I wonder what would happen if deputy chief medical officer Michael Kidd told everyone they needed to jump off a cliff to avoid getting Covid?

And, I'm also wondering if a lot of those people now hoarding Panadol, Nurofen and other painkillers are eating them like lollies because they 'think' it will stop them getting Covid?

We'll just have to wait and see if there's a massive increase in liver damage cases in the coming months and years.

Just to show how stupid people are these days, have a look at this:

Aussie shopper points out bizzare twist in Panadol, Nurofen panic buying nightmare

Quote:

Stock supply shortages and panic buyers have seen shelves at supermarkets and pharmacies across the country stripped bare of pain medication – well, almost.

Last week, Australians were urged to stock up on essentials they would need in case they were diagnosed with Covid-19.

One of the key items deputy chief medical officer Michael Kidd suggested Aussies should have on hand was paracetamol or ibuprofen in order to manage fevers and mild aches or pains.

“My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with Covid-19,” he said.

“It’s important to be prepared because you won’t be able to go to your supermarket or pharmacy if you are diagnosed with Covid-19.”

Quote:

A photo, posted to Twitter by user Katerina, shows the shelves at Chemist Warehouse store that usually display Panadol and Nurofen completely empty.

However, right next to it, are rows and rows of the pain killer Panamax.

Just like Panadol, Panamax contains the active ingredient paracetamol is used to relieve pain and fevers.

It is also significantly cheaper, costing $2.99 for 100 tablets, compared to Panadol which costs $13.49 for the same amount.

“Lol when people don’t realise Panamax is paracetamol,” Katrina wrote.

;D ;D ;D

Idiots.... idiots everywhere...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 18^th, 2022 at 7:53pm

Carl

https://mobile.twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1483261006600155137

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 6:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 9:30pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

I emailed ServiceWA app support last Friday evening telling them about the problem I was having but so far I haven't had a reply.

I was talking to a friend of ours who we met at Belmont Forum on Wednesday afternoon and he told us about a friend of his who was having a similar problem with the new ServiceWA app. He phoned support and was basically told "oh, well... you'll probably need to buy a new phone".

Maybe that's why I haven't had a reply to my email because I stated quite clearly that I was not going to buy a new phone. But, in all fairness it isn't the new ServiceWA app causing a problem with my phone its the Federal government's myGovID app causing it.

Speaking of Belmont Forum, I've noticed there was a Covid exposure site on Monday at Guzman y Gomez.

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/covid-update-wa-five-new-cases-of-community-spread-include-mystery-virus-case-c-5380440

Quote:

The new cases follow the release of an updated list of exposure sites in Perth this morning including Wattle Grove Motel (January 18 and 19), BGC Fibre Warehouse and Distribution in Canning Vale (January 18), Guzman y Gomez outlet at Belmont Forum shopping centre (January 17) and Sagitta CrossFit in East Victoria Park (January 17).

Guzman y Gomez is at the southern end of Belmont Forum near Aldi. My aunt and I were sitting on the seats outside Aldi two days later (Wednesday) when we ran into our friend that I mentioned above. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 7:25pm

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100769100

Suck on that, leftards.

Look on the bright side, Greggery, it'll kill off your chodes, those with dicks wider than they're long.

They should have read Zuby while they had a chance.

You should be okay.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm

Big announcement from Mark McGowan coming up in a few minutes (nearly 7:30 here).

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484092707916349443

Hope he's decided not to open up on February 5th.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm

Looks like we're still planning to reopen on February 5th but under very strict conditions including continuing quarantine.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132174949654528

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1484132178762276873

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

Not too keen on the self quarantine part unless it is enforced with regular checks or the use of a tracking device.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:03pm

Surprise surprise.

12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:06pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm:

Still hoping for a delay in the reopening but its a lot better than what the other States have done.

They;re running out of time.

McGowan's strategically ambiguous rhetoric on the matter is receding.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:16pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm:

Good news:

Premier Mark McGowan announces delay to WA border opening amid fears Omicron will 'cripple' state

The planned reopening of Western Australia's border to the rest of the country on February 5 will be delayed indefinitely, Premier Mark McGowan has announced.

Mr McGowan called a late night press conference to announce the delay, which he said was due to the changing health risks posed by the Omicron COVID-19 variant.

He said a new date would be considered over the next month.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:16pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm:

Well, well, well!

I spoke to soon!

He drew the card.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:19pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:16pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 9:28pm:

Well, well, well!

I spoke to soon!

He drew the card.

He had to.

He had no choice.

Well done, Mr. McGowan [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 10:20pm

A new date?

Come come. You people think you're better than us, well I have news for you.

You're not. You people have just as many tinted races as we do.

Boongs, Muslims, terror suspects, dole bludgers, the lot.

You people should have thought of covid before you went and got infected.

Now you'll get it for sure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:14pm

I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:14pm:

I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!

McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:28pm

Yes, well done Mark McGowan. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Now, let's wait and see who is going to be first up with threats to take him and the WA government to court for not reopening on February 5th.

I have 3 big businesses in mind already and one of them has previously threatened to take any States that refused to reopen to court.

I'll have my bag of popcorn ready. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:31pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:14pm:

I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!

McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

What happened tonight was a powerful strategic move.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

It won't surprise me if WA's unvaxxed are ordered to remain inside at home indefinitely except in medical emergencies.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:23am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:14pm:

I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!

McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

qld saw a DROP in the number of ICU admissions yesterday.

and lets not forget omicron is killing significantly less people then seasonal flu in 2018 which killed several thousand.

in fact, it will probably just be the case that omicron kills the same people the flu used to.

the flu needle in 2018 had a 58 % efficacy and thats probably comparable to current corona vaccines.

we didnt close states in 2018 but we are now.

i think its just because people havent dealt with it before.

i know about 35 people in qld who have had omicron and they are all fine.
a few had a day or two with headaches and temps and felt exhausted but all fine now.

nowhere near as bad as ross river or q fever.
not even in the same ballpark.

they are now not going to be able to be terrified by the mainstream media because it wasnt terrible.

thats probably what ends the pandemic in a month to 6 weeks.

everyone gets it and then sees it wasnt such a big deal.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

thats unnatural.
covid is natural.
getting it is natural.

a year spent in africa where malaria still kills 1 million people a year, who die a horrible death , would get some people back in sync with nature.

ask an african if he fears a sniffley nose more then a systemic illness that attacks your brain and your liver .

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.

planet "weak fragile soft pussy"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 6:48am

Poor aqua... I guess Mark McGowan also didn't read your email. ::)

I see you're still comparing COVID-19 with the flu.

I've mentioned this before but I'm sure it needs repeating:

When did Australia have this many deaths and hospitalisations from the flu in the middle of summer?

And, what do you think is going to happen when Australia gets hit with COVID-19 and the flu at the same time when winter arrives in a few months time, especially if there's another newer, more vaccine resistant Covid variant to deal with?

At least WA may be spared having to deal with the flu for the third year in a row due to our continuing strict border controls and that will be good. Especially for the elderly and immunocompromised, etc.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 6:57am

Well nobody has any immunity to covid so that is why is spreading in summer

What will happen when we get both coved and the flu together?

Well you can be 100% certain we will be getting them together
So it is very wise of you to ask someone with Aquascoots common sense what's going to happen

So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name

That sounds pretty rational to me

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 7:30am

Just shows how out of touch Peter Dutton and the Federal government is with how people feel here in WA.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-today-live-coronavirus-updates-latest-omicron-headlines-january-21-2022-wa-border-reopening-school-plan/5d68681e-6aea-4fec-b92f-3a0d8aa4f0bb#post=00513857-7aab-4e0f-8e8e-83e1925b06d8 (need to scroll down for the story so I've quoted the whole thing).

Quote:

'You can see the disappointment' says Dutton
By Richard Wood 04:20

Federal government front bencher Peter Dutton says West Australians have been left wondering what's next after Premier Mark McGowan pushed back the February 5 border reopening date.

Mr Dutton told Today many WA residents would be feeling disappointed by the decision.

"You can see the disappointment when you hear the West Australians speak and they're asking what next? How do they get through this?" he said.

"The most important thing is to see WA through to the other side.

"People are separated from their families, there are small businesses suffering, West Australians want to be opened up to the rest of the country so they can travel again."

Really, Peter? You can see the disappointment in WA already after the announcement was made by Mark McGowan last night? Hilarious stuff.

At last count nearly 80% of West Australians wanted the "hard border" to continue so I doubt there's too many people disappointed today.

Quote:

"People are separated from their families, there are small businesses suffering, West Australians want to be opened up to the rest of the country so they can travel again."

No they don't (except maybe the bogans who miss Bali) and I'm sure small businesses here will not be suffering as much as those in the eastern States with Covid running loose.

Oh, and... "SIT DOWN BOOFHEAD!"

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 7:43am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 6:57am:

So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name

That sounds pretty rational to me

So, you're still saying Covid is no worse than the flu?

I'm sure the relatives and friends of the 5 million dead (and counting) would tend to disagree with that.

Oh, and...

Will COVID-19 become endemic? Why 'mild Omicron' won't end the pandemic

Quote:

Professor of Biosecurity at the University of NSW Raina MacIntyre said COVID-19 will never be endemic.
"Case numbers can rise very quickly, requiring surge capacity in the health system," she said.
"If case numbers overwhelm the health system, people who could have survived with oxygen or other therapy are unable to get into hospital and the death rates rises.
"The death rates we quote depend on everyone who needs hospital care receiving it."

Others tend to disagree, of course. But, with all the mistakes we've seen made by governments and health officials in the past 2 years I believe we must always look at Covid from a worst case scenario from here onwards.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 7:51am

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 7:52am

And thank you for bringing up Peter Dutton

One of our most admirable politicians

Strong confident and competent

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:05am

A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's 46 deaths in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone. :o

Edit: Plus another 20 lives lost in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's 66 deaths from just 2 States so far.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 7:51am:

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus

Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:42am

Oh Carl you are just being silly

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who are appropriately vaccinated
That would be the consensus

The chief health officer Dr Murphy said so yesterday

Everyone is going to catch omicron
That is also the consensus

The head of the ama said it
Chief health officers of Queensland New South Wales Victoria and South Australia have set it

Listen to The science Karl

Don't listen to Mr McGowan he is living in a false reality

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:51am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:23am:

omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.

Just for the record, the people of WA didn't make the decision; it wasn't a referendum.

Its' a political decision backed by medical advice.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:56am

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:05am:

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus

As I have pointed out to you before Carl, you must keep things in perspective. There are 8 million people in NSW. As of last night:

259, 132 active covid cases
2743 in hospital
209 in ICU
68 on ventilators.

So doing the sums here, only some 3% of the population has Covid at the present time, of those only around 1% are in hospital, of those only around 8% are in ICU and of those only 30% are on ventilators. The unvaccinated or partially vaccinated make up the majority of these hospital admissions.

So you can see that the panic being encouraged by the media and irresponsible people like the WA Premier is unwarranted. However given that Stockholm Syndrome is rampant among WA natives it isn't surprising that the Premier is able to get away with this and still have support from the frightened people.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 9:22am

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:05am:

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus

Scoot will say those people who died either didn't matter, or didn't deserve to live because the were old or overweight.

He'll say and advocate for anything to protect his ego from being exposed to evidence that don't suit his opinions.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:11am

Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:16am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:42am:

I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:20am

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:16am:

I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.

Thank you, Mustapha. I will.

aqua, can you estimate for us how many of the 5 million+ COVID-19 deaths worldwide (so far) would have occurred if Covid hadn't existed?

Take your time... I have all day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:22am

McGowan to WA and the rest of the world

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:23am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:14pm:

I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!

McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:30am

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:23am:

Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?

Looks like he's gone.

Must have gone off to consult Dr. Google (and Zuby again, of course).

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:31am

flip page

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:31am

In case you miss it, aqua.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/1092#1092

Any time today will do.

Thanks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:47am

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:30am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:23am:

Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?

Perfectly understandable. It's always wise to read Zuby once you've made up your mind.

Bonus thought: 21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good)
As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 11:18am

Was listening to ABC talkback radio this morning and some WA health professionals reckon the state of dysfunction and overload in WA WITHOUT Covid is about how NSW is coping in the peak of the Omicron outbreak.

The real reason WA can't open up is it has the worst health system in Australia.

Tell the truth, McGowen!!!

Western Australia has the lowest number of intensive care unit (ICU) beds on a per capita basis in the nation, with just six beds available for every 100,000 people, according to a medical journal report.

New South Wales led the nation with 10.8 beds for every 100,000 people

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-16/wa-icu-bed-count-lowest-in-nation-medical-report/100545198

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:47pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 11:18am:

Aha. You've exposed the whole WA covid response.

Cunning, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm

Mark McGowan ADMITS JABS DONT WORK!

2 whacks only give 4% protection against "Omicron",

3 doses give 64%, because…… SCIENCE.

19 second video:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/392/360/original/f339789db805977e.mp4

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:53pm

Cry me a river...

COVID-19: Glory, Lynx, Wildcats, Eagles, Dockers, Scorchers all scrambling after border blindside

Quote:

WA’s professional sports teams were left in shock and limbo on Thursday night after Premier Mark McGowan announced the February 5 border opening date would be delayed indefinitely.

As Perth Glory owner Tony Sage put it: “We’re f...ked.”

It lobbed a grenade at the 2022 AFL fixture, while the seasons of the summer teams have now descended into chaos -- with some fearing financial disaster should their home fixtures have to be scrapped.

Perth Wildcats, Perth Glory, Perth Lynx and the Fremantle and West Coast AFLW teams are on the east coast and had planned to return following the opening date for a glut of catch-up home games. Perth Scorchers are preparing for their 14th away game in a row on Saturday in a final against Sydney Sixers.

Players from all sports will be allowed back into the State, but the fact they will now need to serve 14 days quarantine on return to WA will cause havoc.

Nice to be living in a State that puts peoples' lives and health ahead of sport.

Quote:

McGowan offered no indication on how long the border could remain closed, but offered the AFL clubs a glimmer of hope when he hinted they may be able to negotiate further exemptions from the rules announced to allow travelling teams into Perth.

“Sport is not my number one priority,” the Premier said.

Thank you, Mark. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Quote:

Former Glory captain Rostyn Griffiths, a West Australian who now plays for Melbourne City, labelled McGowan “an absolute f….n clown” on Twitter.

lol... and I'm sure Mark cares about that just as much as the rest of us do. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 12:53pm:

Best wait until more than 90% of the population has had a third jab before opening up the borders then, don't you reckon?

Not really, Greggery, you'll probably need a 4th jab soon. I think it's best to keep these people out, don't you?

Why are all you monkeys playing along with it?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG5nUaf8Rlus/

Play along with this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/r02GTKLv5cQf/

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:11am:

Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:16pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:11am:

Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.

incorrect. the data dont lie.

unneccessary deaths would be the 50,000 uk residents who will now die of cancer.

tragic and avoidable.

how many cancers are we missing in australia.

one shudders to think

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:18pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Cry me a river...

COVID-19: Glory, Lynx, Wildcats, Eagles, Dockers, Scorchers all scrambling after border blindside

Quote:

Nice to be living in a State that puts peoples' lives and health ahead of sport.

[quote]McGowan offered no indication on how long the border could remain closed, but offered the AFL clubs a glimmer of hope when he hinted they may be able to negotiate further exemptions from the rules announced to allow travelling teams into Perth.

“Sport is not my number one priority,” the Premier said.

Thank you, Mark. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Quote:

Former Glory captain Rostyn Griffiths, a West Australian who now plays for Melbourne City, labelled McGowan “an absolute f….n clown” on Twitter.

lol... and I'm sure Mark cares about that just as much as the rest of us do. ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

the sporting arena is where people go to challenge themselves .

mark has no place in such a place ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?

Is one enough? You've got to be kidding!

Haven't you heard the old joke?

Q. How many guitars does a guitarist need?

A. Just one more ;D It's so true - it's always just one more.

And no, mine are not Chibsons - they are genuine Gibsons made in the US of A.

A '50s Les Paul, a '60s Les Paul, and a Les Paul Special - TV Yellow.

Don't play 'em much though - too damn heavy!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Dnarever on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Wow impressed. Love them.

Always wanted a Les Paul recording like Les finished up playing, also like the gold tops though would happily take a 59 burst (the holy grail).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:11am:

Another truth, we are not trying to eliminate death, just unnecessary death.

Just like you're not avoiding the forum, only the threads where your "England vs Scotland" bullshit blew up in your face.

So you're unwilling to correct your previous misinformation?

So you're lying about that now?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Dnarever on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?

Quote:

TV Yellow.

I know that you know this but a wonderful bit of history.

TV yellow was developed to show as a white guitar on B&W TV.

A big problem with TV broadcast is that colours are defined technically - there is a standard for while and black, it is not legal to transmit in whiter than white or blacker than black in some places. It does happen all the time though it is difficult to prevent.

In the black and white days it was a much bigger issue. The cameras were not sensitive enough to handle white well and tended to look very bright or to flare, TV yellow looked white on BW TV and didn't have this problem.

When you see those old BW music clips using white guitars they are all TV yellow. There is another story but it is wrong.

Modern digital TV handles whiter than white fairly well and blacker than black does not matter much technically as you cannot see it. It can put the transmission envelope outside of the approved area allowed for broadcast and attract the regulator.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 4:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Wow impressed. Love them.

Always wanted a Les Paul recording like Les finished up playing, also like the gold tops though would happily take a 59 burst (the holy grail).

I avoided them for years (decades) - only ever played Fenders and Ibanez.

Then, I found one I fell in love with and now I want more.

Here's a cheap burst for you:

https://reverb.com/au/item/44859137-1959-gibson-les-paul-sunburst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt30gJYZACs

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 4:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?

Quote:

TV Yellow.

Yes, it's very interesting.

In real life it's a great colour too - it's becoming one of my favourite guitars (has P90s).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:28pm:

And, here we go.. first cab off the rank... as expected.

Turner may revive legal bid to open the WA border

Quote:

Flight Centre chief executive Graham ‘Skroo’ Turner is considering a fresh legal challenge against the West Australian government after its snap decision to not open its border as planned on February 5.

Obviously Graham wasn't paying too much attention to the backlash his company received in November when he threatened to take WA and the other States to court if they didn't reopen.

Sounds like he really, really wants to see his company go bankrupt which is what probably will happen if he tries to push this.

Oh, and from myself and most West Australians - go "Skroo" yourself, Graham.

Just waiting for the other 2 (associated) big businesses to join in now, shouldn't be too long and I'm sure they will end up copping the same backlash that Graham will.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:07pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:28pm:

And, here we go.. first cab off the rank... as expected.

Turner may revive legal bid to open the WA border

Quote:

Wouldn't be so bad to see Flight Centre go broke.

They treat their employees appallingly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Bobby. on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Isn't one enough?

Are they cheap Chinese clones?

Hi Greggy,
I want you to practice this one and then post your audio on Ozpol.

Led Zeppelin San Francisco Heavy Metal Version

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YDAAMZLp1xzB/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:34pm

90 % of the population of DubyaA is double vaxxed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:07pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:28pm:

And, here we go.. first cab off the rank... as expected.

Turner may revive legal bid to open the WA border

Quote:

Wouldn't be so bad to see Flight Centre go broke.

They treat their employees appallingly.

If you two, Bbwian and Poison Pill Phil are representative of the Dubya A population then I am glad you lot are locked out from the the rest of Australia and the world indefinitely.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:52pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:07pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 20^th, 2022 at 11:28pm:

And, here we go.. first cab off the rank... as expected.

Turner may revive legal bid to open the WA border

Quote:

Wouldn't be so bad to see Flight Centre go broke.

They treat their employees appallingly.

If you two, Bbwian and Poison Pill Phil are representative of the Dubya A population then I am glad you lot are locked out from the the rest of Australia and the world indefinitely.

Huh? :-/

We aren't locked out.

The rest of the world is locked out.

And that's just the way we like it.

You haven't been following the story too closely, have you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:15pm

WA border opening date TBA at King McGowan's pleasure.

Meanwhile holiday makers in WA are just driving around and around in circles and interstate family and friends are just distant memories.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 9:33pm

Johnnie wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:15pm:

WA border opening date TBA at King McGowan's pleasure.

Meanwhile holiday makers in WA are just driving around and around in circles and interstate family and friends are just distant memories.

What are the constitutional implications of using state based health laws to interfere in the conduct of a federal election?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 10:49pm

They don't want your type over in WA, old boy. You're infectious.

I mean this in the nicest possible way. You can stay here or go jolly well BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.

But you won't be infecting the fine citizens of Western Australia, thank you very much, that much we know.

Make a note, Greggery, mark him down. If he causes any problems, you can always report him.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 12:28am

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 9:33pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:15pm:

WA border opening date TBA at King McGowan's pleasure.

Meanwhile holiday makers in WA are just driving around and around in circles and interstate family and friends are just distant memories.

What are the constitutional implications of using state based health laws to interfere in the conduct of a federal election?

Everyone can see its political except McGowan's herd, he insists on everyone being triple jabbed and dagged before he even considers opening the borders on the advice of an expert which will take him past the election time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by goosecat on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 2:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 4:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 1:11pm:

First you need a Gibson Les Paul and the mind of Jimmy.

I've got three now ;)

Wow impressed. Love them.

Always wanted a Les Paul recording like Les finished up playing, also like the gold tops though would happily take a 59 burst (the holy grail).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_YMLDvvnw

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by goosecat on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 2:27am

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself
To a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide
And then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather you just said “thank you” and went on your way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 5:13am

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 9:33pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 21^st, 2022 at 8:15pm:

WA border opening date TBA at King McGowan's pleasure.

Meanwhile holiday makers in WA are just driving around and around in circles and interstate family and friends are just distant memories.

What are the constitutional implications of using state based health laws to interfere in the conduct of a federal election?

You have evidence that this is happening?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 7:58am

So it seems the WA CMO pushed for the delay because McGowen hasn't prepared the hospital system.

The state's hospitals have been under immense pressure even without COVID patients, and medical lobby groups who had pushed for a delay said it was clear the system would crumble if the virus surged in WA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/wa-border-opening-delayed-what-happens-now-explainer/100772052

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 8:05am

Gordon wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 7:58am:

Every states public health system was under pressure well before Covid ....

lack of resources & staff in nursing, Doctors, paramedics, excessive ramping & lack of beds...

Covid has just bought it to tipping point.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 8:15am

Gnads wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 8:05am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 7:58am:

Yes, NSW is under the pump but coping. We have many more ICU beds per capita than any state and it looks like we're past the peak.

WA health system is a schit show even with covid

WA’s health system is falling apart even without Covid-19

A senior doctor working in the north of Western Australia had this simple assessment of the planned repeal of Western Australia’s hard border: “It will be an absolute smacking disaster.”

The doctor, along with multiple others who spoke to The Saturday Paper, warned of an impending catastrophe that may explain the decision by Premier Mark McGowan on Thursday night to indefinitely postpone WA’s reopening. Doctors have warned of critical staff shortages in some regions and a lack of bed capacity. “We’re severely short on staff and that is before we’ve had a single Covid infection. We have next to no critical care facilities outside of Perth.”

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/01/22/was-health-system-falling-apart-even-without-covid-19/164277000013185#mtr

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 8:18am

More.....

What pray tell has McGowen been doing for 2 years if not building icu capacity?

WA has lowest ICU bed count in nation based on population, according to medical journal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-16/wa-icu-bed-count-lowest-in-nation-medical-report/100545198

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:04am

This should be good. I'll have my popcorn ready.

City of Perth’s Australia Day Skyworks remains on for now but unvaccinated punters warned to stay away

Quote:

Skyworks remains “all systems go” but the unvaccinated have been asked to steer clear from the banks of the Swan River on January 26.

Perth Lord Mayor Basil Zempilas said the annual Australia Day fireworks spectacular remained on course despite a growing Omicron outbreak in Perth’s southern suburbs — but revealed 80 “COVID marshals” would be randomly requesting proof of vaccination from those in attendance.

Mask wearing is also now required the advice from the health department is that where it is not possible to safely socially distance, it will be a requirement that people wear masks when it is not physically possible to socially distance.

QR codes will also be scattered across the city, foreshores and Kings Park to enable those in attendance to check-in.

I have a feeling there might be more entertainment watching Basil's 80 "COVID marshals" trying to enforce check-ins, mask wearing and checking vaccination certificates than there will be from watching the fireworks.

Hope they're also trained to spot fake check-in apps and fake Covid vaccination certificates because I'm sure there will be quite a few of those in the crowds next Wednesday as well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:07am

Carl D wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:04am:

This should be good. I'll have my popcorn ready.

City of Perth’s Australia Day Skyworks remains on for now but unvaccinated punters warned to stay away

Quote:

I have a feeling there might be more entertainment watching Basil's 80 "COVID marshals" trying to enforce check-ins, mask wearing and checking vaccination certificates than there will be from watching the fireworks.

Hope they're also trained to spot fake check in apps and Covid vaccination certificates because I'm sure there will be quite a few of those in the crowds next Wednesday as well.

I honestly can't believe they're going ahead with that.

Basil is such a buggerwit.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:07am:

I honestly can't believe they're going ahead with that.

Basil is such a buggerwit.

I agree.

Quote:

Eighty COVID marshals will also be roving the City of Perth, Kings Park and the Swan River foreshore asking people for proof they had been vaccinated.

Mr Zempilas said anyone unable to produce that proof would be moved on and asked to leave.

He said the mask-wearing requirement would also be enforced by the COVID marshals.

I'm sure this will be the entertainment highlight of the evening. Hope the "COVID marshals" are going to have police backup because I'm pretty sure they are going to need it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:49am

While it's clear that the indefinite deferral of the WA's border opening has political and infrastructure-preparedness strategic value (and not to mention the added pressure that it places on the unvaxxed to do their civic duty), WA (as with NZ) have become victims of their own success.

The social upheaval of moving from as covid-zero as it can be in the world, to the probable thousands of cases in only 3 weeks, has left both places in a catch-22.

Both WA and NZ will need to hope for an omicron surge (over more time than 3 weeks) as an 'act of god', as even boosters' protection against omicron will decline within a relatively short period.

Yes they can, like in the song, be the 'some people' who 'hope for a miracle cure', but the best strategy in the medium term would be for them to 'just accept the world as it is'.

Let Perth's Lord Mayor have his cracker night and, if it causes a 'medium' omicron surge, then, well, it would be as close to an 'act of god' as the WA government is going to get; it will also further intensify the demand for the unvaxxed to do the right thing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:07am

Carl D wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 9:07am:

I honestly can't believe they're going ahead with that.

Basil is such a buggerwit.

I agree.

Quote:

I'm sure this will be the entertainment highlight of the evening. Hope the "COVID marshals" are going to have police backup because I'm pretty sure they are going to need it.

Yeah.

I can just see a bunch of drunk bogans leaving quietly because Basil's marshals ask them to ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:07am:

Yeah.

I can just see a bunch of drunk bogans leaving quietly because Basil's marshals ask them to ::)

So your objection to a public sky show is based on fear of a few drunk people?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:22am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:07am:

Yeah.

I can just see a bunch of drunk bogans leaving quietly because Basil's marshals ask them to ::)

So your objection to a public sky show is based on fear of a few drunk people?

I don't fear anything.

I'm just telling you that there are always drunk bogans at the fireworks and they won't leave if asked to by a marshal.

Moroever, the event will be a super spreader.

If idiots want to attend un-vaxxed and without a mask, they deserve everything they get.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:22am:

If idiots want to attend un-vaxxed and without a mask, they deserve everything they get.

Exactly what the WA government needs. A civil disturbance event caused by the unvaxxed to bring down the first hammer on the unvaxxed.

It would not surprise me if the WA government is covertly supporting the Lord Mayor's decision to proceed with the skyworks event. The state government could otherwise, of course, have over-ruled the Mayor's decision.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:22am:

If idiots want to attend un-vaxxed and without a mask, they deserve everything they get.

I don't think there'll be much civil disturbance.

The marshals will ask the un-vaxxed/un-masked to leave, and they'll simply refuse to do so.

What are the marshals gonna do then?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:22am:

If idiots want to attend un-vaxxed and without a mask, they deserve everything they get.

I don't think there'll be much civil disturbance.

The marshals will ask the un-vaxxed/un-masked to leave, and they'll simply refuse to do so.

What are the marshals gonna do then?

One way would be to ensure video recording is made of the disturbance, to be provided with their complaint to the WA Police. Another would be to coordinate with the WA police for them to be close by the marshalls.

The WA government will soon untie its arm from behind its back (if it hasn't already) and come down hard on those unvaxxed and without exemption.

To do that easily, the WA government needs trigger events where public sympathy for the disturbers of the peace will be at its lowest; nothing like being stumbling drunk, unvaxxed, unmasked and rioting for that.

The days of 'your right to choose' are over.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:41am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 10:22am:

If idiots want to attend un-vaxxed and without a mask, they deserve everything they get.

I don't think there'll be much civil disturbance.

The marshals will ask the un-vaxxed/un-masked to leave, and they'll simply refuse to do so.

What are the marshals gonna do then?

Yep, you make a good point.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

I'm triple-vaxxed and wear a mask everywhere, but I won't be attending Basil's cracker night.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 22^nd, 2022 at 11:03am

Some of the people that the King doesn't give a rats about or don't even know exist'

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/dear-mark-mcgowan-i-ve-been-silent-for-two-years-but-enough-is-enough/ar-AASZm2Z?ocid=msedgntp

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:12pm

Who the hell is Jerrie Demasi?

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/health/9-news-reporters-wa-border-call/ckyqa4xgm002z0jnvum0420w5

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:12pm:

Who the hell is Jerrie Demasi?

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/health/9-news-reporters-wa-border-call/ckyqa4xgm002z0jnvum0420w5

I think she is making reasonable points.

The stats put out by McGowan (echoing WA's CMO) of 4% protection from omicron seems extremely low given stats from overseas. Would that be the protection level for, say, frontline workers exposed to contracting viral loads every hour of every working day (i.e. the worst possible case scenario)?

Comparing WA to NSW or Victoria is less reasonable than comparing WA to SA.

Everything is political for politicians, but McGowan needs to be wary of telling half-truths or skewing stats to fuel community fear beyond the necessary.

Maybe he thinks a noble lie is justified for the greater good of increasing booster rates.

But a noble lie is still a lie.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:52pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:12pm:

Who the hell is Jerrie Demasi?

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/health/9-news-reporters-wa-border-call/ckyqa4xgm002z0jnvum0420w5

I live here - I don't see a lot of fear in the community.

This nonsense about people in Perth being terrified is just that - nonsense.

We know Omicron is coming, and we know many of us are going to get it.

We're just exercising reasonable caution and preparedness.

There's no panic or unreasonable fear - we're pretty cool (well, not for the last week when it's been 40 degrees every day), calm and collected.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:12pm:

Who the hell is Jerrie Demasi?

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/health/9-news-reporters-wa-border-call/ckyqa4xgm002z0jnvum0420w5

How's toilet paper sales in Perth?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 1:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2022 at 12:12pm:

Who the hell is Jerrie Demasi?

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/health/9-news-reporters-wa-border-call/ckyqa4xgm002z0jnvum0420w5

How's toilet paper sales in Perth?

Oh, we've got panic-buying idiots here - no denying that.

But people aren't panicking about the virus - just their arses.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 8:58am

Uh-oh!

Omicron can't be 'eliminated' in WA, Health Minister concedes as case numbers jump

Quote:

WA's Health Minister has admitted the government does not expect to be able to contain a number of Omicron outbreaks across Perth, as the state recorded 24 local cases.

It brings the total number of active cases in the state to 90, with 24 in hotel quarantine and the rest in self-quarantine.

Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson said this was the start of Omicron in WA.

I must say I'm not really too impressed with our new Health Minister so far because it looks like she's just prepared to give up without a fight. What happened to the 'short, sharp circuit breaker lockdowns' we used to have for just 1 or 2 cases?

We need a short, sharp lockdown NOW.

And, we also need the Australia Day Skyworks to be cancelled NOW (although it is still going ahead as of this morning).

Come on, Mark... we're all depending on YOU.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 9:08am

Carl D wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 8:58am:

Uh-oh!

Omicron can't be 'eliminated' in WA, Health Minister concedes as case numbers jump

Quote:

The health minister is right.

There has been no success in eliminating omicron outbreaks anywhere in the world.

Lockdowns will not stop the progression.

WA needs to focus resources on keeping numbers as low as it can to avoid a tsunami of infections for which locals will not be psychologically prepared.

And keep a laser focus on vaccination to avoid a collapse of the health system.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 9:15am

Carl D wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 8:58am:

Uh-oh!

Omicron can't be 'eliminated' in WA, Health Minister concedes as case numbers jump

Quote:

All the hard work we've put in for the last two years will all be for nothing if Basil's cracker night is allowed to go ahead.

Mark HAS TO stop it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am

This is insanity:

"Proof of vaccination will no longer be required at the City of Perth’s Australia Day Skyworks event following confusion over whether or not the city had the power to eject unvaccinated revellers from the foreshore."

I can't believe McGowan is letting this go ahead.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Strange days indeed!

Fear of wowserism? Isn't WA initiating extensive lockouts of the unvaccinated on 31 January?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

I suspect its more a case of the City of Perth being worried about 80 COVID marshals versus several hundred thousand spectators, many of them drunk and offensive and what the likely outcome will be from the many confrontations that will undoubtedly result when the marshals start asking for proof of vaccination.

And, yes... it is totally unbelievable that this is still going ahead tomorrow evening.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:35am

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

More likely the fact, as it turns out, that there is no WA law preventing the unvaxxed from congregating outdoors so long as they're wearing masks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Tens of thousands of people crammed onto buses and trains, getting to the event - FFS ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Tens of thousands of people crammed onto buses and trains, getting to the event - FFS ::)

Nothing like an event like this to start the ball rolling against the unvaxxed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 1:17pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Tens of thousands of people crammed onto buses and trains, getting to the event - FFS ::)

Nothing like an event like this to start the ball rolling against the unvaxxed.

Yep. I guess it will wipe out a few people (wearing flags as capes, no doubt).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Yep. I guess it will wipe out a few people (wearing flags as capes, no doubt).

Of course!

We're not like Californians (as the myth goes). More like Mississippians; to paraphrase Billy Connolly.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 8:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Tens of thousands of people crammed onto buses and trains, getting to the event - FFS ::)

West Australians, eh?? Tsk, tsk ::) ::) ::)
dam yokels.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:14pm

Australian Nursing Federation WA union calls for boycott to Skyworks fearing a COVID super-spreader event

Quote:

The WA Nursing union has urged West Australians to boycott Skyworks, urging the public to “stay away” to prevent it from becoming a super-spreader event.

Yep... but I'll bet no-one takes the slightest bit of notice.

In fact, there's probably tens of thousands of people already there waiting for half an hour of fireworks this evening.

Most of them would have been jammed like sardines in buses and trains on the way there and will be again on the way home when it finishes.

I'll also bet not too many of them are wearing masks (food and/or drinks in their hands all day to avoid having to wear a mask), no social distancing whatsoever and hardly anyone checking in.

Super spreader event in the making without a doubt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:40pm

They got public events all day in Adelaide too >:(

https://australiadaysa.com.au/pages/australia-day-program-2022

What is wrong with those cocksuckers?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:49pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Australian Nursing Federation WA union calls for boycott to Skyworks fearing a COVID super-spreader event

Quote:

The WA Nursing union has urged West Australians to boycott Skyworks, urging the public to “stay away” to prevent it from becoming a super-spreader event.

And McGowan does nothing to stop it ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 2:07pm

More cases... stll no Skyworks cancellation.

Premier Mark McGowan announces 24 new cases, included nine in Bunbury outbreak

Quote:

WA has recorded 24 new COVID cases overnight, with the virus now confirmed to have spread to the Wheatbelt.

Premier Mark McGowan said nine of the infections were from the greater Bunbury region, taking the Bunbury cluster to 16 cases.

The remaining 15 cases were from Perth and include one mystery case, which is not linked to any known outbreak.

The Shire of Cunderdin, east of Northam, took to Facebook to confirm a positive test in the Wheatbelt community.

As a result, the region’s Australia Day Breakfast was cancelled.

At least the Shire of Cunderdin has the right idea.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 3:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Australian Nursing Federation WA union calls for boycott to Skyworks fearing a COVID super-spreader event

Quote:

The WA Nursing union has urged West Australians to boycott Skyworks, urging the public to “stay away” to prevent it from becoming a super-spreader event.

And McGowan does nothing to stop it ::)

The premier's 'let it rip' moment!

I don't think he had much of a choice. He's locking out the unvaxxed as of 31 January (if that's still a thing in WA) and the wowser factor would probably be weighing on him in political popularity stakes.

And, in the end, he needs a bat to start dealing to the unvaxxed. A (hopefully not super) spreader event among the unvaxxed would be just what the doctor ordered; pardon the pun!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 8:58am

WA Premier Mark McGowan has offered a lifeline to international students trapped by his latest border shutdown and will allow returning students into the state provided they are vaccinated and agree to self-quarantine for 14 days after arrival.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 9:22am

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:18am

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

8-)

Oh, I heard the Skyworks fireworks last night from 8:00 to 8:30pm while watching TV at home.

The Covid case numbers here over the next week or two will be very interesting to say the least.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:28am

Carl D wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:18am:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

8-)

Oh, I heard the Skyworks fireworks last night from 8:00 to 8:30pm while watching TV at home.

The Covid case numbers here over the next week or two will be very interesting to say the least.

McGowan will deal with those moonshine runners.

I would bet your balls McGowan's covid zero is a thing of the past.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

The % of unvaxxed is nearing 5%.

Once it reaches that and further, McGowan will have the vast majority of the public on-side if he imposes increasingly harsh restrictions on those who, without an exemption, refuse to do their civic duty.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:52pm

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

That's right. Civic duty is an obligation not a choice.

For those who hold out, human nature will fix that (i.e. 'if I had to do it, why should they get away with it').

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 1:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

That's right. Civic duty is an obligation not a choice.

For those who hold out, human nature will fix that (i.e. 'if I had to do it, why should they get away with it').

Just keep holding a gun to their heads and they will keep injecting a monkey brain derived vax into their bloodstream.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 1:54pm

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

That's right. Civic duty is an obligation not a choice.

For those who hold out, human nature will fix that (i.e. 'if I had to do it, why should they get away with it').

Just keep holding a gun to their heads and they will keep injecting a monkey brain derived vax into their bloodstream.

Once a civic duty has been imposed, it can't be reverted to choice at whim.

The unexempted unvaxxed will find life increasingly restricted while the civil emergency exists.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:35pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

Bwahahahahaha. You can't be serious....
Wait?
You are..... ;D ;D ;D

You really haven't been paying attention to what's been happening in this country lately have you? :-?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

That's right. Civic duty is an obligation not a choice.

For those who hold out, human nature will fix that (i.e. 'if I had to do it, why should they get away with it').

You didn't have to do it you dumb ass... ;D
The media told you to and you fell hook line and sinker for it.... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:47pm

Nobody will care what happens to those eligible and unexempted unvaxxed, excluding children, when they make up less than 5% of the population.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 12:46pm

Just received an email from the ServiceWA app support team and I've been advised that the current SafeWA app is not going to be phased out after all.

The new ServiceWA app would be more convienient because everything would be in the one app - check ins, vaccination certificate, proof of ID, etc.

So, I can continue to use SafeWA on my older phone which can't run ServiceWA (because of the Federal government's myGovID app not being compatible) but I'll need to show my vaccination certificate and proof of ID (drivers licence) separately when asked to do so at pubs and clubs, etc.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:42pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Locking out the unvaxxed from bottle shops will be the undoings of the Honorable backflip McGowan, what are they supposed to drink.

BS, a huge percentage of Australians have only been vaxxed because they have have a gun held to their heads, the triple jab or your job.

That's right. Civic duty is an obligation not a choice.

For those who hold out, human nature will fix that (i.e. 'if I had to do it, why should they get away with it').

You didn't have to do it you dumb ass... ;D
The media told you to and you fell hook line and sinker for it.... ;D ;D ;D

The media?

I got my three jabs purely on the advice of my GP and haematologist.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:46pm

Mum and I got our 2 jabs on the advice (urging more like) of our GP. Will see him next week and ask about the booster.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:47pm

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:48pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 12:46pm:

I've got the ServiceWA app on my phone, but it doesn't show proof of ID.

It just scans in on the QR codes and shows my COVID digital certificate.

It also has G2G, but definitely no proof of ID.

In order to setup the app on your phone you have to obtain a myGovID, but that's a separate app and it doesn't show proof of ID either.

It's all very weird.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:51pm

My elderly aunt has had her booster vaccination this morning.

She's had 2 AstraZeneca shots and now a Pfizer.

The chemist at Terry White Chemmart also printed out an updated Covid vaccination certificate for her while we were there which was great because now I don't need to take her to Medicare to get it like I did for the last one which showed both AZ vaccinations.

And, they must have updated the certificates because it now shows all 3 vaccinations, up until recently it only showed 2 (which would have been the 2nd AZ shot and the booster).

My turn next Friday. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:55pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

My elderly aunt has had her booster vaccination this morning.

She's had 2 AstraZeneca shots and now a Pfizer.

The chemist at Terry White Chemmart also printed out an updated Covid vaccination certificate for her while we were there which was great because now I don't need to take her to Medicare to get it like I did for last one which showed both AZ vaccinations.

And, they must have updated the certificates because it now shows all 3 vaccinations, up until recently it only showed 2 (which would have been the 2nd AZ shot and the booster).

My turn next Friday. 8-)

It all depends where you download the certificate from as to whether it shows two or three vaccinations.

I have two versions saved to my phone - one shows only the last two jabs, and the other shows all three.

Not that it matters for checking-in purposes - all you need is the tick and you're right to go.

The email I received straight after my third jab said that the certificates would only ever show the two most recent jabs, but we both know that's wrong now :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 29^th, 2022 at 8:47am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:47pm:

Nobody will care what happens to those eligible and unexempted unvaxxed, excluding children, when they make up less than 5% of the population.

Wrong.
You see, there are still people out there that are true leaders.
They are just quiet at the moment. Trying to resolve peacefully.
People are not going to follow a weak and deceptive government. You do not get well over 100k of people marching for freedom, in most capital cities world wide because they follow a government, do you?
Even Dan was to stupid to work it out and needed a reporter to inform him.

The truth is like bubbles underwater.
Eventually those bubbles are going to surface.
Already, more and more Vaxxed people are deciding to be pro choice. They are joing the hundreds of thousands that already were, and still are, pro choice, in these freedom marches that are sending a message to these Nazi leaders that we are not their property.
We are free humans.

You do realise that there are vaxxed people marching for freedom in these marches.
It is just your warped conscience that is forming sides, making different classes of humans.
For the last 30 odd years there has been a hard push to bring everyone together, now you want to break it apart again through dictatorships and Nazi style governance.
You want to split society like Moses parting the ocean. Form sides and intimidate only from one side without any discussion.
That is pretty messed up.

Well, it is only ever going to be a story because in reality people are free thinkers.
You want to believe that everyone will turn on the unwashed.... You're going to be in for a rude shock.
I suggest you teun off the project and get in touch with reality.
Go and talk to people on the street instead of staring at a screen.
It will do wonders for you.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 29^th, 2022 at 9:28am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 29^th, 2022 at 8:47am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 10:47pm:

Nobody will care what happens to those eligible and unexempted unvaxxed, excluding children, when they make up less than 5% of the population.

Why are the people falling for the conspiracies using such cult-like rhetoric?

Do you have so little faith in what you believe that you need to use all the tricks that cult leaders who are obviously 100% lying to their victims do in order to twist the lack of evidence for what they're saying into "proof" that what they're saying is true?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:47am

I'm sure this will be providing some 'entertainment' from today:

Proof of vaccination to be expanded State-wide from January 31

Quote:

Expanded proof of vaccination policy to apply State-wide

*Additional requirements to take effect from January 31, 2022, based on health advice
*People encouraged to use the ServiceWA app to provide proof of vaccination
*Western Australians urged to get vaccinated, including third doses, if eligible

Quote:

Double dose proof of vaccination for those aged 16 and older will be required for:

*visitors to public and private hospitals, and aged care facilities;

*all hospitality venues including restaurants, cafes, bars, pubs, clubs, taverns, night clubs and dine-in fast food (roadhouses, service stations and takeaway is exempt);

*indoor entertainment venues, including play centres, gaming and gambling, theatres, concert halls, museums, cinemas and live music venues;

*bottle shops;
*the entire Crown Perth complex;
*major stadiums;
*gyms, fitness centres and health studios;
*amusement parks and the Zoo; and
*music festivals and large events with more than 500 people, unless exempt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:03am

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:47am:

I'm sure this will be providing some 'entertainment' from today:

Proof of vaccination to be expanded State-wide from January 31

Quote:

[quote]Double dose proof of vaccination for those aged 16 and older will be required for:

*visitors to public and private hospitals, and aged care facilities;

*all hospitality venues including restaurants, cafes, bars, pubs, clubs, taverns, night clubs and dine-in fast food (roadhouses, service stations and takeaway is exempt);

*indoor entertainment venues, including play centres, gaming and gambling, theatres, concert halls, museums, cinemas and live music venues;

*bottle shops;
*the entire Crown Perth complex;
*major stadiums;
*gyms, fitness centres and health studios;
*amusement parks and the Zoo; and
*music festivals and large events with more than 500 people, unless exempt.

Feel sorry for the poor staff who have to try and enforce this because I'm absolutely certain there are going to be lots of abusive customers they will have to deal with as well as the 'smartasses' who will no doubt try to bluff their way into premises by going on about their 'rights', etc., etc.

All the staff can do in these situations is call the police (and not on the 000 emergency number) and by the time the police arrive (if they even bother to turn up) the abusive customers will be long gone.

Bottle shops will definitely be providing 'entertainment'. Aldi is an interesting case because they sell alcohol in their actual supermarkets and not in a separate shop like Coles and Woolworths do with Liquorland and BWS.

So, you can buy groceries at Aldi and not have to produce your vaccination certificate at the checkout but if you buy any alcohol on its own or with your groceries then you have to provide proof of vaccination.

Fun times ahead.[/quote]
I'm surprised supermarkets were not named specifically as exempted (or included in the restricted list).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:51am

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:47am:

I'm sure this will be providing some 'entertainment' from today:

Proof of vaccination to be expanded State-wide from January 31

Quote:

Feel sorry for the poor staff who have to try and enforce this because I'm absolutely certain there are going to be lots of abusive customers they will have to deal with as well as the 'smartasses' who will no doubt try to bluff their way into premises by going on about their 'rights', etc., etc.

All the staff can do in these situations is call the police (and not on the 000 emergency number) and by the time the police arrive (if they even bother to turn up) the abusive customers will be long gone.

Bottle shops will definitely be providing 'entertainment'. Aldi is an interesting case because they sell alcohol in their actual supermarkets and not in a separate shop like Coles and Woolworths do with Liquorland and BWS.

So, you can buy groceries at Aldi and not have to produce your vaccination certificate at the checkout but if you buy any alcohol on its own or with your groceries then you have to provide proof of vaccination.

Fun times ahead.[/quote]
Drive through bottle shops will still be available for the filthy ones and i assume they can walk through if they don't have a car, alcohol is an essential commodity, supermarkets are essential to everyone as well.

Kim Jong McGowan is drunk on power.

Did the racist condescending twit have his Abbo interpreter with him when announcing these draconian measures because there will be big troubles if the Abbos think they can't get a drink.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:03am

Johnnie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:51am:

Kim Jong McGowan is drunk on power.

Was he responsible for similar restrictions in other states?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:28am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:03am:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:51am:

Kim Jong McGowan is drunk on power.

Was he responsible for similar restrictions in other states?

The lockdown you have when you are not having a lockdown but i wouldn't rule out one out under the dictator.

Tens of thousands of West Australians have already been through hell for two years not being able to see family and friends even when they are dying, or being locked out of their own state.

For backflip McGowan the fun has only just begun.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:38am

Johnnie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:28am:

For backflip McGowan the fun has only just begun.

He'll be counting on his further 3 years before a state election to burn off any public disapproval of pandemic restrictions.

The unvaccinated will number well under 5% soon, so they will be politically irrelevant.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:47am:

I'm sure this will be providing some 'entertainment' from today:

Proof of vaccination to be expanded State-wide from January 31

Quote:

Feel sorry for the poor staff who have to try and enforce this because I'm absolutely certain there are going to be lots of abusive customers they will have to deal with as well as the 'smartasses' who will no doubt try to bluff their way into premises by going on about their 'rights', etc., etc.

All the staff can do in these situations is call the police (and not on the 000 emergency number) and by the time the police arrive (if they even bother to turn up) the abusive customers will be long gone.

Bottle shops will definitely be providing 'entertainment'. Aldi is an interesting case because they sell alcohol in their actual supermarkets and not in a separate shop like Coles and Woolworths do with Liquorland and BWS.

So, you can buy groceries at Aldi and not have to produce your vaccination certificate at the checkout but if you buy any alcohol on its own or with your groceries then you have to provide proof of vaccination.

Fun times ahead.[/quote]

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:40am

Johnnie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:51am:

Drive through bottle shops will still be available for the filthy ones and i assume they can walk through if they don't have a car, alcohol is an essential commodity, supermarkets are essential to everyone as well.

Drive through bottle shops also require proof of vaccination.

WA’s strict vaccination rules kick in for bottle shops, gyms and cafes

Quote:

From Monday January 31 proof of vaccination for people aged 16 years and over will be required state-wide for:

All hospitality venues, food and licensed venues including restaurants, dine-in fast food, cafés, bars, pubs, clubs, taverns, licensed commercial boats (excluding food and non-alcoholic beverage takeaway; food courts; roadhouses, and petrol stations)
Night clubs
Bottle shops (including drive-through bottle shops)

Quote:

Venues and individuals shared the responsibility for following the vaccination rules, with venues required to take reasonable steps to ensure all patrons are double dose vaccinated, or have a medical exemption.

Just waiting for a lot of employees to stand up and say that it is not their job to act as security having to deal with abusive customers and risk physical injury if arguments turn nasty.

Would be interesting to see what the various shop workers unions have to say about this as well. Probably won't hear anything until the trouble starts which will no doubt be today - day 1.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am:

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

How long before they are reported for non-compliance, I wonder.

They're taking a risk of huge fines and loss of their business.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:46am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am:

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

How long before they are reported for non-compliance, I wonder.

They're taking a risk of huge fines and loss of their business.

It's crazy - I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

There was a queue forming, so I guess he didn't want to scare customers away by slowing down the process.

Fun times ahead.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:48am

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:40am:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 8:51am:

Drive through bottle shops also require proof of vaccination.

WA’s strict vaccination rules kick in for bottle shops, gyms and cafes

Quote:

[quote]Venues and individuals shared the responsibility for following the vaccination rules, with venues required to take reasonable steps to ensure all patrons are double dose vaccinated, or have a medical exemption.

Just waiting for a lot employees to stand up and say that it is not their job to act as security having to deal with abusive customers and risk physical injury if arguments turn nasty.

Would be interesting to see what the various shop workers unions have to say about this as well. Probably won't hear anything until the trouble starts which will no doubt be today - day 1.
[/quote]

They were literally just on the radio about 5 minutes ago - on 6PR.

Said that their preference is for the checks to be done by dedicated security staff.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am:

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

Doesn't surprise me at all, Greg.

After still seeing many, many people not bothering to check in to places every day since check ins became mandatory (and no-one looks to make sure people are checking in) and the continuing lack of social distancing, not wearing masks properly or at all, etc. I don't think anyone really believes that everyone (customers and shops) would suddenly start complying from today.

And, the shops would be mostly concerned about losing customers, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 10:15am

Hmm...

COVID WA: Jail for those harassing workers checking vaccination certificates

Subscriber only article again, of course.

If I buy The West Australian when I go to the shops later I'll have a read and I might post a screenshot (picture with my phone camera) of the story or just the 'highlights' here.

So, if they abuse/assault staff and then run off how are the police supposed to find them when/if they turn up? I'm pretty sure the abusers won't be leaving their names, addresses and phone numbers before they flee.

All of these political 'thought bubbles' sound great in theory but they usually fail dismally when it comes to actually implementing them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 10:25am

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 10:15am:

Hmm...

COVID WA: Jail for those harassing workers checking vaccination certificates

Subscriber only article again, of course.

If I buy The West Australian when I go to the shops later I'll have a read and I might post a screenshot of the story (or just the 'highlights') here.

So, if they abuse/assault staff and then run off how are the police supposed to find them? I'm pretty sure they won't be leaving their names, addresses and phone numbers before they flee.

All of these political 'thought bubbles' sound great in theory but they usually fail dismally when it comes to actually implementing them.

The '5% rule' will kick in soon.

When the unvaxxed reaches less than 5% of the population, they will be politically irrelevant and socially too outnumbered to gain public sympathy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 12:39pm

ICU specialist sticks it to the Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Yumh7R40

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 12:39pm:

ICU specialist sticks it to the Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Yumh7R40

Sky "News". ;D ;D ;D
"The Kenny Report, Real News, Honest Views". ;D ;D ;D
"Furious WA Doctors Demand Reopening". Where are all of these furious doctors besides Dr. Luke Torre? ;D ;D ;D
"McGowan has betrayed peoples' trust". ;D ;D ;D

Stop it... no more of this please, aqua... you're killing me here. ;D ;D ;D

I'll bet the other States saw and heard this same BS from Sky "News" and all of the other biased Murdoch media before they reopened.

Nek minnit... hundreds of Covid deaths and thousands of hospitalisations every week in the Eastern States which shows no signs of improving any time soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:10pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 10:15am:

Here's the story from today's West Australian.

Quote:

Could be jailed for a year or fined up to $50,000

Yeah, OK... but I'm betting it will never happen mainly for the reason I've mentioned above.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm

Seeing some of the abuse in the shops here on the Gold Coast, something needs to be done to protect the staff, it's not their fault the mandates exist, and fighting them with some sov citizen bullshit is just wasting everybody's time in a climate where so many places are already understaffed.

Also, bugger these people who attack the staff, especially when they walk in already recording themselves looking for a fight.

This will be gravy for the local anti-vaxxer scene in WA. I forsee so many "Legal defence funds" on gofundme for these idiots who out out there just looking for trouble when they'll be let off with a warning and just grift money out of their supporters/telegram tards with heavily edited videos to make it look like the police attacked and or arrested them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 12:39pm:

ICU specialist sticks it to the Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Yumh7R40

i'll listen to the perth ICU specialist , if its all the same to you.
where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

As far as I know he doesn't have one.

But, pay attention now... this is very important... he listens to the medical experts here in WA and acts appropriately.

Not like the other State Premiers (especially Dominic Perrottet in NSW) who preferred to listen to business advice instead of medical advice and look how well that's worked out for them.

Where did all of these business leaders get their medical degrees?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

I forsee so many "Legal defence funds" on gofundme for these idiots who out out there just looking for trouble when they'll be let off with a warning and just grift money out of their supporters/telegram tards with heavily edited videos to make it look like the police attacked and or arrested them.

Had you read this (below) before you posted?

If not, you're on the money!

GoFundMe freezes $160,000 until organisers of Convoy to Canberra protests detail spending plan

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-01-31/gofundme-freezes-canberra-covid-truck-convoy-money/100792930

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:56pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

so an ICU doctor in perth doesnt have a medical degree ;D ;D ;D ;D

carl, i have told you guys to ease up on the white flags
PLEASE STOP

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 5:41pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 12:39pm:

ICU specialist sticks it to the Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Yumh7R40

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 12:39pm:

ICU specialist sticks it to the Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Yumh7R40

i'll listen to the perth ICU specialist , if its all the same to you.
where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

Where did you get yours? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:14pm

dupli

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:14pm

dupli

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:46am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am:

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

How long before they are reported for non-compliance, I wonder.

They're taking a risk of huge fines and loss of their business.

It's crazy - I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

There was a queue forming, so I guess he didn't want to scare customers away by slowing down the process.

Fun times ahead.

Won't be long & the stance McGowan has taken will be undermined with this shyte.

And if any of these business owners had an ounce of sense they'd realise that once the borders open & it's "let it rip" as has happened in QLD .....

businesses will be in even a more dire predicament then they were or have been with the borders closed.

People are staying away/home in QLD in droves .... & businesses are suffering worse than they were just relying on business from state locals.

Aquascoots such a clever tnuc.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Raven on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:20am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

so an ICU doctor in perth doesnt have a medical degree ;D ;D ;D ;D

carl, i have told you guys to ease up on the white flags
PLEASE STOP

One. One ICU doctor. The premier listens to multiple medical experts and acts accordingly. People don’t want to live in a world where you only ever listen to one expert like you do.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

oh please.

a common grift.

160,000

pfizer make 1000 dollars a second
it would take pfizer 2 minutes 40 seconds to "grift' that ammount.

you want to talk about grifters?

they have a government legislation that they can never be sued.
they have government gauaranteed contracts wortth billions
they are RUNNING the trials and MAKING the recommendations about whether you should have jab 4 or 5.

and the "science' says that new variants will pop up in unvaxxed africa.
pfizer have donated not ONE vaccine to these places whilst forcing jab 4 onto israel.
and they wont release their intellectual property developed with government funds under operation warp speed to ANY third world countries

you are a fool marsupial

now get ready to roll up your sleeve for their latest exciting instalment.

160 grand....what a freaking joke

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mustapha_Khunt on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:36am

Wake up and smell the coffee, leftards.

Quote:

BioNTech received €375 million (US$445 million) from the government of Germany to accelerate the development and production capacity of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.[54][55]

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said that the company decided against taking direct Warp Speed funding for the development of the vaccine out of a desire "to liberate our scientists [from] any bureaucracy that comes with having to give reports and agree how we are going to spend the money in parallel or together".[56]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

"Narrow path to success", innit.

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:48am

Raven wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:20am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

so an ICU doctor in perth doesnt have a medical degree ;D ;D ;D ;D

carl, i have told you guys to ease up on the white flags
PLEASE STOP

One. One ICU doctor. The premier listens to multiple medical experts and acts accordingly. People don’t want to live in a world where you only ever listen to one expert like you do.

Yep, and this ICU doctor sounds like he could have been one of these doctors many years ago.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:54am

More stupid antivaxxer stunts.

Anti-vax stunt brings Mitchell Freeway peak hour traffic to a standstill

Quote:

A band of what is believed to be anti-vaxxers and anti-mandate protesters brought the Mitchell Freeway to a standstill on Monday morning, at the height of peak hour and back to school traffic.

A Main Roads spokesperson confirmed all four southbound lanes near Scarborough Beach Road were blocked by a handful of vehicles, forcing traffic to bank up back to Warwick Road.

“Motorists stopped on the freeway, WAPOL attended to try to assess the situation and then they were all moved on within about five minutes. No cause was relayed to us. It was all (built up) very quickly once they decided to stop in all lanes on the freeway,” he said.

Not sure what they thought they were achieving with all this? Wouldn't have done their 'cause' too much good I would imagine.

And they were lucky an ambulance with a very sick patient onboard wasn't using the freeway to get to Royal Perth Hospital urgently.

Here's an idea - perhaps they should use their obviously excessive spare time to get themselves vaccinated?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 11:17am

Carl D wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:54am:

More stupid antivaxxer stunts.

Anti-vax stunt brings Mitchell Freeway peak hour traffic to a standstill

Quote:

Not sure what they thought they were achieving with all this?

No, it's hard to know what they were thinking.

Then again, that's the problem with these people - they just don't think.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

oh please.

There you go with your whataboutism again.

You're not in the Telegram Chat groups with these grifters, are you? Triggered?

Nobody was talking to you anyway darl.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 2:33pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

oh please.

There you go with your whataboutism again.

You're not in the Telegram Chat groups with these grifters, are you? Triggered?

Nobody was talking to you anyway darl.

youve seriously lost your mind.

thinking that a bunch of independant truckies and small buiness owners are grifters for raising 160,000

whne the pandemic has allowed jeff bezos and amazon to make more than 160,000 a minute.

bezos personal wealth is up 369 BILLION .

the pandemic has allowed him to crush the opposition

he allows NO UNIONISED truck drivers

truck drivers are SACKED via an app if they take too long for a toilet break.

and looney lefties like you are fine with that.

because tools like him own the washington post and "pretend" to be woke.

these guys are demolishing small business and getting all the power and cash and fools on the looney left are their foot soldiers.

one never thought one would see the day when the left called the CFMEU and the TWU corrupt grifters and when the left licked the backsides of the corporate elites.

truly disgusting

you should be ashamed.

no one stands up for small business.

soon you will only have big businesses to deal with.

good luck with that fella >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 2:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

oh please.

There you go with your whataboutism again.

You're not in the Telegram Chat groups with these grifters, are you? Triggered?

Nobody was talking to you anyway darl.

I've never seen a lefty in here defend Bezos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5w2QwdYik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaA5p4cFRrE

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 3:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 2:33pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:28pm:

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

oh please.

There you go with your whataboutism again.

You're not in the Telegram Chat groups with these grifters, are you? Triggered?

Nobody was talking to you anyway darl.

youve seriously lost your mind.

No, you just can't read and then fly off the handle like an overly hormonal teenage girl.

I said, I expect that the law changes to protect staff from harassment and assault from idiots, like you, when they are enforcing the COVID restrictions will likely spawn a heap of grifters deliberately provoking them, live streaming it and their arrest in order to get footage of their arrest with the explicit aim of creating legal defence funds on GoFundMe to grift idiots out of their money, for FrEeDoM!!!

I was asked if I made that prediction based on another GoFundMe that's been frozen, the one you're babbling about, and the answer is no, I didn't, I wasn't even aware of that, I've just been following the likes of Monica Smit, Avi Yemini (not a journalist) and other crazy COVID grifters and it's exactly what they do.

Save your outrage for something real you dumb bugger.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:22am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:55pm:

[quote author=sadkangaroo link=1609817412/1210#1210 date=1643610526]I forsee so many "Legal defence funds" on gofundme for these idiots who out out there just looking for trouble when they'll be let off with a warning and just grift money out of their supporters/telegram tards with heavily edited videos to make it look like the police attacked and or arrested them.

No, but it's been a common grift with the anti lockdown/mask mandates crowd since the start of the pandemic, it's just the next logical step.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:56pm

"One infected teacher attending an all-staff professional development day on Friday means 55 staff and 27 students have been forced to isolate."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 3:41pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:48am:

Raven wrote on Feb 1^st, 2022 at 1:20am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:41pm:

where did mcgowan get his medical degree ;D ;D ;D

so an ICU doctor in perth doesnt have a medical degree ;D ;D ;D ;D

carl, i have told you guys to ease up on the white flags
PLEASE STOP

One. One ICU doctor. The premier listens to multiple medical experts and acts accordingly. People don’t want to live in a world where you only ever listen to one expert like you do.

Yep, and this ICU doctor sounds like he could have been one of these doctors many years ago.

carl,

you have certainly shown doctors can be 100 % wrong.

do you include the doctors recommending we vaccinate children?

i mean, as you say, they have been wrong in the past

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 4:47pm

Children have been getting vaccinated for years.

https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/immunisation/when-to-get-vaccinated/national-immunisation-program-schedule

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3^rd, 2022 at 5:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 1:56pm:

"One infected teacher attending an all-staff professional development day on Friday means 55 staff and 27 students have been forced to isolate."

A third Perth school has recorded a case of COVID-19 just three days into the school year, with hundreds of students and dozens of staff ordered into 14 days of quarantine.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 3^rd, 2022 at 5:01pm

Looks like Scotty from Marketing is really worried about the polls.

Scott Morrison’s huge call on West Australian border

Quote:

Scott Morrison has sensationally claimed West Australia Premier Mark McGowan did the right thing in delaying the state’s border reopening.

WA was originally slated to reopen its border to other states on February 5, but last month Mr McGowan announced that would be pushed back due to the Omicron surge in the eastern states.

The delay has been widely panned.

But on Thursday, Mr Morrison conceded the WA Premier had done right by his state, saying Omicron was a “very different virus” and changed the goalposts.

“The things we were doing before, don’t work the same way under the Omicron virus,” Mr Morrison told Perth’s 6PR radio.

Nice try, ScoMo.

But, you're gone come election day. And good riddance.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 7:27am

I thought we weren't reopening today, February 5th?

Apparently there are about 6,000 people arriving in Perth today and about 17,000 over the next week.

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/covid-19-in-wa-thousands-of-west-australians-tipped-to-return-home-this-weekend-c-5571528 (Subscriber only again, of course but I'll probably read it later after I get the paper).

There's a bit more about this in the attached image from a Google search.

Very few of these people will be coming from overseas (only 86 over this weekend according to The West Australian) and they will have to go into hotel quarantine but the thousands from interstate are only required to self quarantine at a "suitable premises" and we've seen how well that works and how trustworthy a lot of people are since the start of the pandemic.

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-interstate-travel

So much for WA's continuing "hard border". I'm sure we'll have hundreds or thousands of daily cases within the next few weeks. And then the tragic and totally avoidable deaths will probably start.

A lot of small businesses are already starting to suffer here in Perth with many people now staying home because of the fear of getting Covid and this will probably be the end for most of these businesses. Just like what's happened in the eastern States.

As long as Alan "WA is like North Korea" Joyce and Jayne "we need to reopen even if some people die" Hrdlicka can start counting their millions again then nothing else matters (to them).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 10:25am

I knew something didn't sound right when I posted this on January 20th, the day Mark McGowan announced that WA would not reopen on February 5th.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/1067#1067

So, we're actually still reopening today but with supposed new tough conditions of entry, tests and quarantine.

Hope they're checking everyone's G2G passes properly at the airport as I'm sure there will be a few fake ones presented (and fake vaccination certificates too).

The pre and post flight Covid tests are not worth a pinch of s*it as other States have found (to their detriment).

And, as I've said before - self quarantine which relies on people doing the right thing also doesn't work with many people as we've seen over the past 2 years.

No prizes for guessing the 'main players' involved in pressuring Mark McGowan into reopening today (even if he says he wasn't and isn't).

Batten down the hatches, WA... a big Covid storm is coming our way.

Oh, I was at a small cafe yesterday with my elderly aunt and we were talking to the owner who can't understand why they have to check everyone's Covid vaccination certificates (unless its takeaway) when all of their tables and chairs are in the common area of the shopping centre?

Especially when we were in the food court at Belmont Forum last Wednesday sitting down having lunch and none of the staff at any of the shops or any of the security people asked to see customers' vaccination certificates. And, as usual, no-one was even bothering to make sure everyone was checking in with Covid apps or pen and paper (many people didn't just from my own observations).

She's called the government department(s) dealing with all this several times and couldn't get a proper answer from anyone. Typical.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:21pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 7:27am:

I hope McClownan doesn't let 'rona in. I am scared and feeble and need a big state daddy to tell me what to do. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:23pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:46am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:39am:

Just walked past a coffee shop in the CBD and heard the owner saying "Don't worry about the proof of vax you guys, I trust my customers". ::)

How long before they are reported for non-compliance, I wonder.

They're taking a risk of huge fines and loss of their business.

It's crazy - I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

There was a queue forming, so I guess he didn't want to scare customers away by slowing down the process.

Fun times ahead.

It won't happen in W.A. McClownan has super powers and will stop 'rona forever. It's true. I read it in The Guardian. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:26pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:10pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 10:15am:

Here's the story from today's West Australian.

Quote:

Could be jailed for a year or fined up to $50,000

Yeah, OK... but I'm betting it will never happen mainly for the reason I've mentioned above.

Only whites should be jailed. Non-whites can do as they please. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:30pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 28^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

I've had 17 boosters. I am superior. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 9:15am:

Carl D wrote on Jan 24^th, 2022 at 8:58am:

Uh-oh!

Omicron can't be 'eliminated' in WA, Health Minister concedes as case numbers jump

Quote:

All the hard work we've put in for the last two years will all be for nothing if Basil's cracker night is allowed to go ahead.

Mark HAS TO stop it.

McClownan will keep covid out forever. He's spesul. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:35pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

McClownan needs to take a leaf out of Andrews' book and bash and pepper spray some 80 years olds to set an example. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 10:57am

Not happy, Jan.

https://twitter.com/_marching_Ents_/status/1489957516163223555

And, yes... I'm sure most people don't realize that.

Until the cases start to skyrocket in the next few weeks and by then it will be too late, like what's happened in the other States.

I've already seen some of the staged pictures of joyous reunions at Perth Airport yesterday. Gave me an immediate feeling of déjà vu because the same thing happened in Queensland and South Australia (and Tasmania to a lesser extent so far) after they reopened and once the 'sugar hit' of seeing these reunions wore off everyone in those States were left with increasing Covid cases, hospitalisations, deaths and new calls to close the borders again. Too late, of course.

Looks like Mark McGowan has 'pulled the wool' over everyone's eyes by making us think the so called "hard border" would continue past February 5th when in fact it hasn't.

But, with the mainstream media here (especially our own rags The West Australian and The Sunday Times) endlessly criticising Mr. McGowan from January 20th onwards after he announced that the reopening on February 5th was 'cancelled' I'm not surprised most people still believed the "hard border" would continue. Maybe that was the plan all along?

Can't really blame him too much considering the enormous pressure he's no doubt been under from certain sections of the big business community to open up. I hope this all comes back to bite these businesses in the @ss real soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 12:39pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

McClownan needs to take a leaf out of Andrews' book and bash and pepper spray some 80 years olds to set an example. This is progress.

They could/should start with you. That would be progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 12:40pm

4 phargin bumps to turn page FFS. >:(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 12:40pm

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:03pm

Thoughts for today, Sunday February 6th.

Went with my elderly aunt for lunch at Gosnells Railway Markets. Didn't stay there any longer than necessary and it could be the last time we have lunch there for the forseeable future due to the steadily increasing Covid risk.

Just like Belmont Forum food court last Wednesday no-one was asking to see vaccination certificates or making sure people were signing in with their phones or pen and paper and, as usual, there were a few people walking around with masks under their noses or chins.

Spoke to a lovely lady we know who owns a shop in the main 'stalls' area and she told us she is closing in 2 weeks time after being there for many years. She has always done very well there but she has noticed a drop off in business over the past month (as have all of the other shops) since masks became mandatory and it is gradually getting worse with Covid now loose in Perth.

Another small business that was doing very well while WA remained Covid free but is now closing due by Covid. My aunt and I will get her a card and a present during the next 2 weeks and give them to her on her last day.

I've also heard that a lot of shops in the Perth CBD are struggling again due to Covid with people not going into the city anymore and workers in a lot of the office buildings working from home again.

Stopped at Maddington Central shopping centre on the way home where we again saw no-one making sure people were checking in at the entrances to the shopping centre and/or individual shops and many people walking around with their masks under their noses (including the so called security guy outside Woolworths and a trolley collector at Coles) plus several more with their masks under their chins and in the case of one couple who looked to be in their 20's, no masks at all.

We've obviously become way too complacent because we've had it so good with being Covid free for the past 2 years. I wonder how many daily cases, hospitalisations and deaths it will take in Perth before people here start taking Covid seriously?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:21pm

McGowans backflip reversed sort of, nobody knows what is going on there and its probably best that way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm

WA are putting on their running shoes preparing to run the marathon.

they are a bit late.

everybody else is nearly finished and some countries are kicking back with a beer and relaxing.

WA's hospitals wont cope , because they already dont cope.

australains are very unhealthy, live on dominoes and coca cola, sit on the couch and think that it is a hospital role to look after their health

clearly, this is insane and WA is about to learn what should have been obvious.

its on YOU to look after your health.

hospitals are their for car accidents, appendix operations, to deliver babies and to treat cancers.

they are currently full to overflowing with people who live unhealthy lifestyles by choice

sugar
alcohol
drugs
smokes
lack of exercise
non compliance with their meds

they are not, never have been and never will be full of covid patients.

covid just exposes how terrible most peoples health is and our over reliance on treating things once they have gotten bad and our under reliance on looking after our own health

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

I was wondering how long it would take for you to turn up here. ::)

6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:47pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

glad youre reading zuby.

dont forget his rule that "all safety offered by politicians is an illusion"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 7:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

WA are putting on their running shoes preparing to run the marathon.

they are a bit late.

everybody else is nearly finished and some countries are kicking back with a beer and relaxing.

We've been kicking back with a beer and relaxing for the last two years.

What part of this don't you understand?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 8:56pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

McClownan needs to take a leaf out of Andrews' book and bash and pepper spray some 80 years olds to set an example. This is progress.

They could/should start with you. That would be progress.

Good hate, Comrade. This sort of hate is highly progressive and will bring world peace. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 8:58pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

In Qld, the 'rona hid in large National Parks and Reserves, but not in busy shopping centres. Who am I to question Palachook's wisdom? This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 5:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

WA are putting on their running shoes preparing to run the marathon.

they are a bit late.

everybody else is nearly finished and some countries are kicking back with a beer and relaxing.

We've been kicking back with a beer and relaxing for the last two years.

What part of this don't you understand?

most sane people kick back with a beer AFTER acomplishing a task.

not before beggining their brutal training ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 5:53am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 5:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

WA are putting on their running shoes preparing to run the marathon.

they are a bit late.

everybody else is nearly finished and some countries are kicking back with a beer and relaxing.

We've been kicking back with a beer and relaxing for the last two years.

What part of this don't you understand?

most sane people kick back with a beer AFTER acomplishing a task.

not before beggining their brutal training ;D ;D ;D ;D

We'll have the lowest death rate in the entire country.

Just wait and see.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:32am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

australains are very unhealthy, live on dominoes and coca cola, sit on the couch and think that it is a hospital role to look after their health

its on YOU to look after your health.

hospitals are their for car accidents, appendix operations, to deliver babies and to treat cancers.

they are currently full to overflowing with people who live unhealthy lifestyles by choice

sugar
alcohol
drugs
smokes
lack of exercise
non compliance with their meds

Good points.

In the Utopia our forebears imagined: None should suffer and die from diseases that are treatable and curable.

That was, and is, a noble ideal.

In the Utopia we should continue to imagine: None should profit by the destruction of another's health.

Why should we allow the sale of food containing gargantuan amounts of sugar, which renders it addictive?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:51am

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

Similar story to QLD... the cases & hospitalisations increased rapidly.

But don't worry it's only a cold ::) & those who get it & require hospitalisation or develop Long Covid are just malingerers'.

Ask Aqua, Gordo, Von Rort, Nail et al.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:51am

Another 4 bumps to post on a new page. The phark is wrong with the site?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:52am

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:56am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

McClownan needs to take a leaf out of Andrews' book and bash and pepper spray some 80 years olds to set an example. This is progress.

They could/should start with you. That would be progress.

Good hate, Comrade. This sort of hate is highly progressive and will bring world peace. This is progress.

No hate ... just a suggestion. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:49pm

Looks like the crazy anti-vaxxers are at it again.

The fire brigade and police are in attendance at Mark McGowan's office in Rockingham, and his staff has been evacuated.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:49pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 7^th, 2022 at 7:51am:

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

meh

hospitalisations FELL in every state of australia today except NT.

send me another white flag and stop lying ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:52pm

And... here we go...

65 new cases recorded after influx of interstate travellers into Western Australia

Quote:

The arrival of thousands of interstate travellers over the weekend has resulted in a jump in daily infections to 65 – just 13 of which were locally acquired.

Three of the new locally-acquired infections are mystery cases not yet linked to known close contacts.

Some also spent time in the community while infectious with new exposure sites expected to be released later today.

The increase in overall infections, announced by Premier Mark McGowan on Tuesday, comes after around 15,000 interstate travellers entered WA between Saturday and Monday.

Well, what did Mark think was going to happen? After making everyone believe the so called "hard border" was going to remain after February 5th we've actually opened the Covid floodgates and we're now making the same mistakes the other States made when they opened their borders over the past few months.

The only change that was made to the February 5th reopening was that the thousands of interstate arrivals are expected to self quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. Yeah, good luck with getting them all to comply.

Poor old Basil Zempilas is now complaining about the big reduction in the number of cars in the Council House carpark (and the Perth CBD, of course) with people now staying at home or working from home.

Basil Zempilas -Twitter

Cry me a river, Basil. Governments and big business wanted the border open now you'll have to deal with the consequences just like the rest of us now have to. Take it up with them.

Oh, I went into our local TerryWhite Chemmart in Kooyong Road this morning (I actually went to Australia Post at the back of the building) and all the TerryWhite staff are now wearing face shields as well as masks so they're obviously very concerned about what's happening now with Covid on the loose.

Oh, I'd love to know how the Omicron variant got into WA with our so called "hard border" up until February 5th. We know Delta came here with that idiot backpacker but I haven't seen any information about how and when Omicron arrived and escaped.

Who was it? How did they get into Perth? Who wasn't doing their job properly and allowed it to escape into the community? I won't be holding my breath waiting for answers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:57pm

put on those running shoes carl

the starters gun has gone off for the marathon.

in 6 weeks , you'll be kicking back with a beer , wondering what all the fuss was about.

every other state is seeing drops in hospitalisations as omicron ends the pandemic

we were extremely fortunate that it did the job that the vaccine was supposed to and finished off deadly delta.

turn that frown upside down :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

Looks like the crazy anti-vaxxers are at it again.

The fire brigade and police are in attendance at Mark McGowan's office in Rockingham, and his staff has been evacuated.

Hope the fire brigade put their hoses on these idiots.

Mark has also had a Covid close call.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/premier-mark-mcgowan-in-isolation-after-covid-scare-at-rockingham-exposure-site-c-5597482

He's tested negative (so far, at least).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

And... here we go...

65 new cases recorded after influx of interstate travellers into Western Australia

Quote:

Basil needs to STFU. Big streak of misery.

Not sure if you saw my previous post, above:

Looks like the crazy anti-vaxxers are at it again.

The fire brigade and police are in attendance at Mark McGowan's office in Rockingham, and his staff has been evacuated.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 3:49pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:52pm:

Oh, I'd love to know how the Omicron variant got into WA with our so called "hard border" up until February 5th. We know Delta came here with that idiot backpacker but I haven't seen any information about how and when Omicron arrived and escaped.

Haven't the border restrictions been eased on compassionate grounds?

WA will not avoid omicron. Better it spreads at whatever lowest rate it can be controlled at.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 3:56pm

And now, the end is near

For the unvaccinated and breaching the state's Emergency Management Act.

With the unvaccinated rate nearing 5%, more of this will happen.

It will be driven by those in the 95%+ majority who will now make this happen. Human nature is unassailable.

Police shut down Perth restaurant, arrest owner, over alleged vaccine breach

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/police-shut-down-perth-restaurant-arrest-owner-over-alleged-vaccine-breach-20220208-p59upt.html

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 3:49pm:

Haven't the border restrictions been eased on compassionate grounds?

That's what we were told but the smarter ones amongst us believe its more about big business greed, especially businesses like Qantas, Virgin, Flight Centre, tourism and overseas student industries, etc. Same as it was with the other States opening up to Covid in the last few months.

I like the way this guy gets straight to the point:

https://twitter.com/_marching_Ents_/status/1490930886941970432

Quote:

13 local cases today BUT 52 TRAVEL RELATED CASES.

And now, "non urgent" elective surgeries are being cancelled AGAIN.

How many people will suffer (and some may even die) as a result of this and who will be held responsible?

This reply by 'Lotus' says it all:

Quote:

Lotus
@lotus2955
·
11m
Replying to
@_marching_Ents_
and
@MarkMcGowanMP
How do you justify this Mark? Step up, not too late to kick this outbreak to the kerb, a short sharp lockdown will do the trick. Question is, do you have the guts to stand tall??

I seem to recall Mark McGowan saying somewhere a few days back that "lockdowns were no longer an option". Why is that, Mark? Who is pulling your strings by making you say that?

(No need for an answer... most of us already know).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:47pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

I seem to recall Mark McGowan saying somewhere a few days back that "lockdowns were no longer an option". Why is that, Mark? Who is pulling your strings by making you say that?

Lockdowns have been abandoned everywhere in the world, except China, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:54pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

I seem to recall Mark McGowan saying somewhere a few days back that "lockdowns were no longer an option". Why is that, Mark? Who is pulling your strings by making you say that?

Because Omicron is in WA. Once it's in it's to late. You won't stop it anymore. It spreads far far more easily than any of the other strains

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:01pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:54pm:

Because Omicron is in WA. Once it's in it's to late. You won't stop it anymore. It spreads far far more easily than any of the other strains

True, John.

But, as I posted earlier... I'd sure like to know (as would a lot of people) how Omicron got into Perth and escaped while our so called "hard border" was still up and running.

All we will hear is crickets chirping from the State government, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:05pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:54pm:

Because Omicron is in WA. Once it's in it's to late. You won't stop it anymore. It spreads far far more easily than any of the other strains

Has the world's experience not taught you something about omicron that's inarguable?

This variant cannot be stopped. It survives longer outside the body. It transmits from host to host at many times the rate of previous variants. It likely needs twice as long to quarantine it out (so that's 28 days in isolation).

It cannot be stopped by any means that would be tolerable or enforceable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:06pm

dup

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm

Something (in this situation, Covid) is only unstoppable when people (in this situation, governments) only make a half hearted effort to stop it because they're more concerned about money and the economy than they are about peoples' lives and health.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:36pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

No. You are wrong.

If omicron could be stopped, WA and NZ would be the first to try it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

Looks like the crazy anti-vaxxers are at it again.

The fire brigade and police are in attendance at Mark McGowan's office in Rockingham, and his staff has been evacuated.

Turned out to be a death threat and anthrax scare.

These anti-vaxxers need to be rounded up and put away for the next 20 years.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

No. You're wrong.

There's a time for standing and a time for yielding to the inevitable.

If there was another way, the WA state government would have taken it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:17pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

No. You're wrong.

There's a time for standing and a time for yielding to the inevitable.

If there was another way, the WA state government would have taken it.

No, I'm not wrong.

Profit is always put before people.

Always. Without exception.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

No. You're wrong.

There's a time for standing and a time for yielding to the inevitable.

If there was another way, the WA state government would have taken it.

No, I'm not wrong.

Profit is always put before people.

Always. Without exception.

No. Many government leaders during this pandemic around the world put their compatriots lives' before profits.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

No. You're wrong.

There's a time for standing and a time for yielding to the inevitable.

If there was another way, the WA state government would have taken it.

No, I'm not wrong.

Profit is always put before people.

Always. Without exception.

No. Many government leaders during this pandemic around the world put their compatriots lives' before profits.

As a generalisation, in a capitalist society, it's always profit before people.

It's the basic rule. Capitalism couldn't survive otherwise.

Of course there are individuals - myself included - who don't subscribe to that rule, but generally speaking it's the way of the western world.

Sad, but true.

It's why governments don't provide more funding for pensioners and nursing homes - those people contribute nothing to the economy - all they do is take.

The government would rather see them die.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:29pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 4:54pm:

Because Omicron is in WA. Once it's in it's to late. You won't stop it anymore. It spreads far far more easily than any of the other strains

probably stupid people who think the rules don't apply to them. Thats how most of the outbreaks in Oz have occurred

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:31pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:05pm:

It likely needs twice as long to quarantine it out (so that's 28 days in isolation).

so why did our governments CUT isolation requirement from 14 days to 7 across most jurisdictions?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

As a generalisation, in a capitalist society, it's always profit before people.

Not necessarily during a health emergency.

Social democracies tend to excel at managing a health crisis.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:35pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

As a generalisation, in a capitalist society, it's always profit before people.

Not necessarily during a health emergency.

Social democracies tend to excel at managing a health crisis.

Sure.

As long as profit comes before people.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:31pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:05pm:

It likely needs twice as long to quarantine it out (so that's 28 days in isolation).

so why did our governments CUT isolation requirement from 14 days to 7 across most jurisdictions?

There is no point to a 14 day quarantine with a virus that likely requires 28 days anyway.

Also, as omicron is easily survivable after vaccination, what is the point of 14 days if even that isn't enough? Why not drop down to less than 14 days?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:49pm

No daily Covid report today, Marky Mark?

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP

Might be because of all the drama at your Rockingham office today? Maybe?

Wouldn't be because the numbers in the "Other" (i.e. "returned travellers") section are getting a bit uncomfortable, would it?

41 interstate cases, 11 overseas (13 local).

You're not going to stop reporting Covid cases on your Twitter account once the case numbers, hospitalisations (and deaths) start to increase like Annastacia Palaszczuk did in Queensland after she reopened the border in December, are you?

Funny how this alleged testing of people before boarding the planes to come here doesn't seem to be working properly... but then the same thing happened with the other States when they reopened. Nek minnit... thousands of daily cases and many unneccessary deaths.

I thought we were supposed to be learning from the mistakes the other States have made (and continue to make)?

And, what's this I hear about all G2G passes for coming to WA now being approved automatically without anyone even looking at them? I read it somewhere the other day, I don't know if its true but it wouldn't surprise me seeing as I also heard a while back that most G2G passes were apparently being rejected automatically while the "hard border" was in place. People reported submitting their applications and they received an 'automated' rejection mere seconds later.

No wonder we've have so many people flooding into WA since Saturday.

While I'm here, I had a good laugh at this:

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1490970669454090242

Quote:

An avalanche of fake membership applications has all but buried the political aspirations of a WA-founded anti-vaccination party.

Maybe they need a few of our resident antivaxxer nutters to help them out? ;D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:49pm

flip page.

Hey, Greg... we might have to start a new thread soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:35pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:26pm:

As a generalisation, in a capitalist society, it's always profit before people.

Not necessarily during a health emergency.

Social democracies tend to excel at managing a health crisis.

Sure.

As long as profit comes before people.

I note from your description that you maybe were/are a kiwi.

Do you think that NZ has profited out of covid?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 8:01pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

flip page.

Hey, Greg... we might have to start a new thread soon.

Yes. The uniqueness of WA's response to this pandemic has attracted a lot of interest!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 11:13am

Our daily right wing sometimes borderline fascist rag must have had a bit of a dilemma last night when composing today's offering.

On the front page and also on pages 4 and 5 we have the story about the Royal Perth Hospital Covid testing clinic being completely overwhelmed already mostly due to the 15,000 interstate arrivals we had over the weekend who need to be tested within 24 hours of arriving in WA (and again on day 7 of "self quarantine").

Then, in the West Business section near the back of the paper we have an article titled "STRUGGLE STREET - Omicron erodes business and consumer confidence" which included a picture of the William Street end of an almost empty Hay Street Mall in the Perth CBD.

I can't believe anyone could be surprised by all of this especially after WA was supposed to have watched what was happening to the rest of Australia and learned from their mistakes.

A letter to the paper today from a lady sums things up pretty well, one of the extremely few that gets published these days from people criticizing the reopening. Must have been the Dean Alston (the paper's cartoonist) comment that made them decide to print it or I'm sure it would have ended up in the bin like 99% of letters not supporting the reopening probably do.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 2:26pm

I see we're getting an update from Marky Mark today.

Mark McGowan - Twitter

Only 14 local cases but another 80 from the thousands that are flooding in from interstate and overseas (mostly interstate) since the floodgates were opened last Saturday.

That's 132 cases from all of these "returned travellers" in just 2 days!! The preflight Covid tests are obviously working just as well as they did for the other States that reopened. What a surprise.

Hope all of these interstate arrivals are quarantining at home (lol) and they're not out spreading the virus when travelling to and from the already overwhelmed testing places.

This is well on the way to becoming a complete and utter disaster just like what's happened in the other States after they reopened.

Not happy Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 3:11pm

hiya carl

still at the starting line for the marathon and chucking a tantrum because you dont want to run the brutal miles like every other state.

if everyone has been offered their booster, what is the reason for delay?

if you have had your bosster, each day you delay, your immunity drops.

try to be scientific like scooter and not emotional like your premier and jacinda

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:57pm

That evil little leprechaun is STILL at it.

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce stands by Western Australia-North Korea comparison over hard border

Quote:

Qantas boss Alan Joyce has doubled down on comments he made last week comparing Western Australia to North Korea, saying the state's hard border had divided the country "a bit like Korea is divided".

Mr Joyce told the ABC he was not describing the West Australian government as a dictatorship, but he stood by the comment.

"I said, 'Unfortunately our country is divided, a bit like Korea is divided,'" he said.

"And it feels like we have a part that is like North Korea, that is very restricted in parts of what the people can do in terms of travel.

So, the hundreds of flights - most of them probably Qantas - bringing about 20,000 people into Perth this week since WA went from a hard border to a soft one last Saturday isn't enough for you? We've already had over a hundred new Covid cases in 2 days thanks to that brilliant idea.

And, if it wasn't for the mining industry here in WA and the daily FIFO flights Qantas and Virgin would probably be out of business by now. Oh, hang on - no you wouldn't because the Federal government would no doubt bail you out even more than it has done already (while you still continue to cut jobs, of course).

If you want to do something useful maybe you should check out your company's Twitter account occasionally and deal with some of the numerous complaints like the ones in this thread.

Quote:

"And I think that is the way people feel."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 7:06pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 6:57pm:

That evil little leprechaun is STILL at it.

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce stands by Western Australia-North Korea comparison over hard border

Quote:

Only people who put money ahead of peoples' lives like you and Virgin's Jayne "we need to reopen even if some people die" Whatsherface feel and think like that.

Oh, and from myself and probably the majority of West Australians... F--- you!!![/quote]

Indeed.

A double f--- you from me.

Money, money, money - that's all that little prick cares about.

F--- him and the A380 he flew in on.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 8:47pm

My Dad's nursing home :(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-09/wa-records-14-new-local-covid-cases-nursing-home/100815664

I'm allowed to visit, as he's at end of life.

This ain't gonna be a good year for me.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:02pm

Sorry to hear that, Greg.

I hope everyone has been isolated quickly enough and that your dad and everyone else is OK.

Unfortunately, this pretty mich proves that Omicron is more widespread in Perth than the 'official' numbers show.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:06pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Sorry to hear that, Greg.

Cheers.

I spent some quality time with him today. He was happy and was sharing some good old memories.

He's had a shot of Moderna, but it won't save him.

I've got morphine in his room, so when the time comes he won't suffer.

Still hard to take though :(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:

Profit before people.

Sad, cliche, and even cynical - but it's the truth.

All businesses need to be shut down forever. It's the only way to stop covid. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:32am

People are now asking why have there been so many approvals for all of these people to come to WA in such a short time?

There was still supposed to be "strict criteria" for entry into WA from February 5th after our "hard border" went soft. Might have something to with what I heard a few days back that G2G passes are now being approved automatically without anyone even looking at them, the same as the majority of them were apparently being rejected automatically while the "hard border" was in place (unless you were a celebrity, sports 'star' or rich, of course).

A lot of people obviously believe their right to travel is more important than the health and welfare of an entire State.

Even more worrying is a claim I saw yesterday about the negative Covid tests that people are supposed to be having prior to boarding the planes.

The claim is that the WA government is accepting uploaded PICTURES of negative Rapid Antigen Tests (RAT's) as proof.

WTF??? Surely the government can't be that stupid, can it? Oh, wait... yes they can. Just look at them trusting nearly 20,000 (and increasing daily) people to home quarantine for 7 days for proof of their incompetence and stupidity.

As word gradually gets around about the betrayal of WA and its people (especially the elderly and vulnerable) by our State government just for the sake of money the anger is increasing.

Did they really believe they were going to get away with this without anyone noticing?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:32am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:32am

flip page AGAIN.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:33am

Flip page x3.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:40am

Exactly the same as happened in QLD Carl.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 12:16pm

lol. ;D

Mark McGowan Creates His Own Country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSPlmaSC1A

Quote:

Mark McGowan, the now former Premier of the reclusive ex-state of Western Australia, announces the creation of his new nation, proclaiming himself King and Eternal Leader of the state, and vowing to rule his subjects with an iron fist.

Great editing job. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 12:49pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

Your opinion is probably common among those who have not grasped the concept of the impossibility of extinguishing the omicron variant.

The WA government strategy of acknowledging this by attempting to avoid a mega-surge of omicron by the process they're following is correct.

If omicron may require up to 28 days of isolation (which would be intolerable), there is no further point in maintaining a 14 day isolation requirement. The result would not extinguish omicron from the community.

The state cannot continue in 'perfect isolation' even into the immediate term without inflicting long-term damage to its economy and the psychological health of its society.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:34pm

All businesses need to be shut forever. Only that will stop covid. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 12:16pm:

lol. ;D

Mark McGowan Creates His Own Country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSPlmaSC1A

Quote:

Great editing job. 8-)

Mark is his own man, he does things his way and hang the rest.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:14pm

No plan... no idea how to stop this... just blindly following along the same disastrous path as the other States.

Man with COVID-19 dies in Perth hospital as WA records 51 local cases among 99 new infections

Quote:

A man with COVID-19 has died in hospital as Western Australia recorded 51 new local cases of the virus in the community, its highest daily number to date.

Premier Mark McGowan opened today's media conference saying he had a significant and tragic development to announce.

"Sadly, a man in his 70s with COVID-19 has passed away in Joondalup Hospital," he said.

"I'm advised that WA Health has no record of the man receiving a COVID-19 vaccination."

Mr McGowan said the man had underlying health conditions and acquired the virus in the community — believed to be at an event in Perth's northern suburbs.

First WA Covid death in 2 years.

Makes no difference whether he was vaccinated or not or had "underlying health conditions" (I'm sure we'll be hearing that term a lot over the coming months).

The fact is - this man would still be alive if it wasn't for Covid... same as the majority of the more than 2,000 people who have died Australia wide since the start of the year.

Not happy, Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:34pm:

All businesses need to be shut forever. Only that will stop covid. This is progress.

Many small businesses are already closing or they're very close to it.

People started staying home when compulsory masks came back last month and its been getting worse for small businesses ever since. Especially in the Perth CBD where a lot of the office workers are back to working from home and no-one else wants to go there to shop for fear of getting Covid.

Can't believe the State government didn't see this coming because the exact same thing happened in Queensland and South Australia after they foolishly opened their borders and 'let Covid rip'.

This isn't progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:41pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

First WA Covid death in 2 years.

Makes no difference whether he was vaccinated or not or had "underlying health conditions" (I'm sure we'll be hearing that term a lot over the coming months).

He was unvaccinated and had underlying conditions.

You will definitely have more of these and, short of isolating the state forever, there is no other way out of it but through it.

Hopefully the remaining few percent who are unvaccinated will start thinking about taking personal steps towards giving themselves the best chance to get through it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:56pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

COVID is in my father's nursing home in Bentley now - 7 cases, I think.

I was there most of the day yesterday and today, and the preparation and work they were doing to contain the virus was quite impressive - military like precision.

I was very worried that Dad would catch the virus and suffer a horrible drawn out death.

Thankfully he won't have to go through that ordeal, as he passed away very peacefully today while I was sitting on his bed.

His heart just stopped. It was peaceful, painless, and dignified.

We both had COVID tests, and they came back negative.

RIP Dad :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 6:38pm

RIP. at least you were able to be with him, many west Australians have been denied that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:01pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 6:38pm:

RIP. at least you were able to be with him, many west Australians have been denied that.

Indeed.

I'm extremely grateful.

Because he was an 'end of life' resident, and I'm triple vaxxed, I was allowed to stay as long as I wanted.

I have a better understanding now of what it must be like for the people who have been denied the privilege I had. Apologies to them if I seemed a bit cold before.

It was horrendous to watch him take his last breath, but at least my face was the last thing he saw (debatable on whether that's a good or bad thing I suppose) and I was holding his hand. He wasn't alone.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:23pm

So sorry to hear that, Greg. At least you were able to see your father before he passed.

My condolences.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:27pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

So sorry to hear that, Greg. At least you were able to see your father before he passed.

My condolences.

Thank you.

Yes. I saw him as he passed, actually.

Something that will never be wiped from my memory.

Seeing a human being literally taking their last breath is an indescribable experience.

RIP Dad :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:32pm

Sorry, Greg.

As he passed, of course.

Stay strong.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:41pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:32pm:

Sorry, Greg.

As he passed, of course.

Stay strong.

[smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 8:31pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:34pm:

All businesses need to be shut forever. Only that will stop covid. This is progress.

This is why businesses should be shut forever. Covid should never come in, even if the owners of those businesses go broke and starve to death. This is progress.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gnads on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:56pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

My heartfelt condolences Peccar

I lost my Dad September 2020 @ 96yrs old... I didn't get to see him before he went ... luckily his passing wasn't too drawn out either.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 17^th, 2022 at 8:58am

Uh-oh!

WA records 115 new local COVID cases amid escalating Omicron outbreak

Quote:

Western Australia has recorded more than 100 locally transmitted cases of COVID-19 for the first time during the pandemic, as an outbreak of Omicron rapidly escalates.

There were 115 local cases recorded in the 24 hours to 8pm Tuesday night, along with 13 travel-related cases, after 7,938 PCR were tests conducted at state-run clinics on Tuesday.

Only leaving the house for essential reasons from now on... same as everyone else we know.

Not good for the Perth CBD which has been like a ghost town the past few weeks and especially small businesses but unlike certain sections of the big business community health comes before profits for the majority of people.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 5:43pm

Mark McGowan finally caving in completely to certain greedy sections of the business community as well as a total betrayal of the elderly and others with serious health issues who will now probably be confined to their homes for the rest of their lives because going out could be a death sentence for them.

Premier Mark McGowan finally reveals new State border reopening date

Quote:

WA’s hard border will be dismantled on March 3 — just short of four weeks after the original date set for the resumption of quarantine-free travel.

Premier Mark McGowan announced the new date at a press conference on Friday afternoon shortly after WA Health reported 194 new local cases in the latest reporting period.

Quote:

All international and interstate arrivals will be given a rapid antigen test at Perth Airport and required to report a positive result to WA Health.

The number of unvaccinated Australians returning to WA will be capped at 70 per week, and they will be required to spend a week in hotel quarantine at their own expense.

Not good enough. But, I hope its managed a bit better than the current system where I've heard that people are just being 'waved through' Perth Airport if they have issues with providing test results or setting up the app they're supposed to be using for checks while they're in home quarantine.

Quote:

The 2qm rule will return for all hospitality and entertainment venues, cultural venues, fitness centres, hairdressers, beauty service providers and places of worship.

In addition to the 2sqm rule, nightclubs will also be capped at a maximum of 500 patrons.

This will be the death blow for many small businesses. Lots of them are already struggling to survive right now, especially in the Perth CBD which is already like a ghost town.

Quote:

The modelling predicts between 134 and 146 West Australians will lose their lives to COVID.

“Sadly, the modelling also tells us we can expect four lives to be lost each day once we reach the peak,” Ms Sanderson said.

“I know this news will be confronting for many… but I am confident that as a community we are well protected and well prepared.”

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 5:54pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 5:43pm:

[quote]All international and interstate arrivals will be given a rapid antigen test at Perth Airport and required to report a positive result to WA Health.

The number of unvaccinated Australians returning to WA will be capped at 70 per week, and they will be required to spend a week in hotel quarantine at their own expense.

This will be the death blow for many small businesses. Lots of them are already struggling to survive right now, especially in the Perth CBD which is already like a ghost town.

Quote:

TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, Ms. Amber-Jade Donothing!! I hope everyone with elderly relatives or relatives with health issues remember to keep a copy of this (just like I'm going to do) because I'm sure it will come in handy for future class action lawsuits from the relatives of those who die in the coming months (and probably years).

The attached image should be sent to every single politician and big business CEO Australia wide but it would be a waste of time because all they ever see is $$$$$.

The one interesting thing to come out of this pandemic is that it has shown the true colours of these scumbags. I hope Karma bites them in the @ss big time real soon.[/quote]

carl

seriously

you are saying WA is ending fortress western australia prematurely

there are 7000 million people on earth and WA is the LAST place to try to be a fortress.

they arent ending prematurely
they have been dithering and procrastinating longer then the other 6998 million people.

the rest of the world are mystified by your "out of step" approach

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Gordon on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 5:59pm

Karl

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 6:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

carl

seriously

you are saying WA is ending fortress western australia prematurely

there are 7000 million people on earth and WA is the LAST place to try to be a fortress.

they arent ending prematurely
they have been dithering and procrastinating longer then the other 6998 million people.

the rest of the world are mystified by your "out of step" approach

I see you've been let out without adult supervision AGAIN.

No-one cares what you think. If you've bothered to read the link I've provided about Perth CBD already being a ghost town then its fairly obvious that if the government has abandoned its duty of care to its citizens then we will just have to take care of ourselves by not going out unless it is absolutely essential like most of us are already doing.

And, lots of Perth CBD office workers are now working from home again. At least that's a bit of a win for the environment with not so many cars on the roads.

Sucks for small business, of course, but they need to take that up with the government.

Oh, and their downturn in business isn't due to the so called "hard border" (lol) still being in place (it isn't anyway... it turned into a "soft border" on February 5th) as our daily rag The West Australian wants everyone to believe... its due to people not wanting to go to places with many people (like the CBD) for fear of getting Covid.

Can't believe they didn't learn from South Australia, Tasmania and Queensland after their disastrous border openings over the past few months. Not to mention the continuing s*itshow in NSW and Victoria.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 6:13pm

carl, you admit perths businesses are suffering

the other 6998 million citizens of planet earth are getting on with awesomeness

and YOU admit your CBD is a ghost town.

by your own admission, your strategy is a failure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:06pm

Quote:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/democide

Quote:

democide

in British English

(ˈdɛməʊˌsaɪd)
noun
the killing of members of a country's civilian population as a result of its government's policy, including by direct action, indifference, and neglect

I'm sure this word will feature quite prominently in a future Royal Commission into Covid and class action lawsuits resulting from the thousands of deaths Australia wide.

In the meantime, our pollies and big business CEO's might want to look it up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 6:13pm:

I don't work for the ABC.

And, I didn't write the article. (Hint: my name isn't Rebecca Turner).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-18/perth-businesses-report-downturn-as-covid-19-hits-state/100836358

::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:56pm

Quote:

“Sadly, the modelling also tells us we can expect four lives to be lost each day once we reach the peak,” Ms Sanderson said.

Wonder how long it would take for me (or anyone else who isn't a politician) to end up in prison with multiple life sentences if we announced today that we were soon going to be responsible for 4 avoidable deaths a day? And then went ahead and actually did it?

But, they're THE GOVERNMENT. No-one takes responsibility for ANYTHING.

"Sorry, we didn't know this would happen" (Yes, they did. They've admitted it in the above quote and they've known all about Covid for 2 years now).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:28am

And... here we go... WA is finally joining the rest of Australia in the Covid cesspool.

WA border opens after 697 days of COVID-19 travel restrictions, as first planes land in Perth

No surprise to see pictures of the "joyous reunions" at Perth Airport. Just like we saw when the other States opened up and Covid was let loose.

We had 1,766 new Covid cases yesterday and we're expecting up to 10,000 cases and 3 or 4 deaths a day in the next month or so.

And we're supposed to believe this is going to be the 'new normal'.

And, I'm sure the flu would have also arrived by now... probably on the first plane from overseas. The politicians and right wing media have done a great job making people believe the pandemic is over and the Russia-Ukraine war and floods in Queensland and New South Wales have also provided a welcome distraction as well.

Well, even if governments have abandoned their duty of care to the population (especially the elderly and vulnerable) at least most people are taking matters into their own hands and have gone into a 'shadow lockdown' which doesn't bode too well for a lot of businesses.

I took these pictures in Perth City just before lunchtime on Monday and the place is like a ghost town.

Forrest Place:

Murray Street Mall:

Hay Street Mall:

I was only passing through the city because I had to go to my GP in North Perth, I wouldn't go anywhere near the city right now if I didn't have to. I also kept my mask on the entire time although I noticed quite a few people were not wearing them.

I feel sorry for all the small businesses that have closed and will close as a result of all this. As for the others who have been whinging endlessly about wanting the borders opened (including Perth's Lord Mayor, Basil Zempilas):

You've finally got what you wanted - now SUCK IT UP!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:28am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:29am

flip page x2.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:29am

flip page x3 FFS!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:59am

Hey Carl.

I picked up my five free RATs from Perth Airport yesterday.

Have you registered for yours?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 12:50pm

After nearly a thousand days and a thousand nights dictator McGowan opens his borders, at least he beat Xi.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 1:13pm

I got free RATS from a chemist at Adelaide Central Market.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 1:38pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 1:13pm:

I got free RATS from a chemist at Adelaide Central Market.

I think pensioners here get 5 free RATs a month, for three months - just pick them up at any chemist. I got Mum's first lot the other day.

We now have an offer where every household also gets 5 free RATS - just had to register online, and then pick them up at a drive-through arrangement two days later.

Gonna need 'em, that's for sure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Hey Carl.

I picked up my five free RATs from Perth Airport yesterday.

Have you registered for yours?

Hi, Greg.

No, not yet. Might register for them later this afternoon. Thanks for reminding me. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

2423 new Covid cases announced today.

And one death. :(

I also notice "Mark's" daily Twitter announcement now doesn't tell us how many new cases are locally acquired and how many are from interstate and overseas.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1499219492693442561

Funny about that seeing as the internationals and interstates have started flooding back in from today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:54pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Hey Carl.

I picked up my five free RATs from Perth Airport yesterday.

Have you registered for yours?

Looks like we'll be hitting 10,000 a day in a couple of weeks :(

Anyway, when you register for the free RATs you can choose to have them delivered or you can pick them up at the airport.

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-wa-free-rat-program

After you've registered, they send you an email with an order number 24 to 48 hours later.

If you're gonna pick them up at the airport, I'd advise going between 10 am and 12 noon.

I did yesterday, and so did a friend today, and there was no queue at all.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:55pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:59am:

Hey Carl.

I picked up my five free RATs from Perth Airport yesterday.

Have you registered for yours?

The McGowan government is covering for the dilapidated state of the Health system in WA.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 3:04pm

Just registered for my free RAT's.

That was quick and easy.

I've selected the option to have them delivered, can't be bothered driving to Perth Airport to pick them up (even though I could drive there in about 10 minutes).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm

The West Australians are freaking out now with the borders open, i hear the CBD is like a ghost town, the locals are scared.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:55pm

Johnnie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

The West Australians are freaking out now with the borders open, i hear the CBD is like a ghost town, the locals are scared.

Not really.

Businesses started noticing a drop off in trade in January when masks became mandatory and it has slowly gotten worse since then as the daily Covid cases increase.

Especially in the Perth CBD where shoppers are staying away and a lot of the office workers are working from home again.

And now that companies have seen how much money they can save on CBD office rents by having staff work from home and workers don't have to put up with rush hour on the roads morning and afternoon 5 days a week I don't see people rushing back into the cities even if/when the pandemic is over.

Its exactly the same as what happened in the other States when they reopened and let Covid run loose.

Can't imagine why anyone could have thought that things would be any different here in Perth?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 6:37pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:55pm:

Johnnie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

The West Australians are freaking out now with the borders open, i hear the CBD is like a ghost town, the locals are scared.

Family, friends and tourists alike were sleeping in their cars and on the roadside around the Nullarbor station last night waiting to get in but apparently there are more heading the other way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 6:46pm

Johnnie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

The West Australians are freaking out now with the borders open, i hear the CBD is like a ghost town, the locals are scared.

The CBD was a ghost town long before COVID hit.

I know of entire office buildings in the city that have been vacant for many years. Shops too.

The old Westpac branch office space on the corner of St Georges Tce and Barrack Street, for example, has only just been leased after sitting empty for 8 years.

And, us locals aren't scared - we're just cautious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by lee on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 7:19pm

"The prevalence of BA.2, colloquially called ‘son of Omicron’, is likely to increase due to its higher transmissibility.

But it doesn’t appear to cause more severe illness and in another encouraging sign, it is not driving a fresh wave of cases in countries where it is already dominant."

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/more-contagious-omicron-sub-strain-prevalent-in-wa-outbreak-genomic-sequencing-reveals-c-5887131

So transmissibility up - Severity down. So its severity seems to be devolving.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 9:15pm

While Ukrainians are scared of being shredded by bombs, McClown and co. are scared of the sniffles.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 1:56pm

Even Blind Freddy could have seen this coming.

Three COVID positive patients in ICU as WA reports 4535 cases

Quote:

Three West Australians with COVID-19 are being treated in intensive care, as WA reported another record number of daily cases on Thursday.

Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson said 4535 cases were detected in the 24 hours to 8pm Wednesday, bringing the active number of infections to 18,012.

There were 80 West Australians in hospital with COVD, up from 67 people on Wednesday, 48 on Tuesday and 36 on Monday.

WA cases...

Wednesday.... 3954 cases.
Tuesday........ 2847 cases.
Monday......... 2365 cases.
Sunday......... 2270 cases.
Saturday....... 2289 cases.

How's that "Safe Transition" border opening going now, Mark McGowan?

Oh, that's right... you're too busy playing court games with Clive Palmer at the moment to worry about Covid cases, hospitilisations and deaths, aren't you?

Here's a hint for both of you - GROW UP!!

And, when are you going to drop the mask mandates and other Covid restrictions here in WA like the other States have foolishly done?

Don't want to put off all of the overseas and interstate tourists with them having to wear and look at masks everywhere, do we? Wouldn't fit the government (Federal and State) and big business narrative that the pandemic is over, would it?

Maybe you need to have a good read of this:

Studies warn Omicron BA.2 is the most dangerous COVID variant ever

Quote:

Recent studies of the BA.2 sub-variant of Omicron suggest that it is both more transmissible and more lethal than Omicron BA.1, and that it is quickly supplanting the previous variant in country after country. The findings directly contradict the claims of governments around the world that the pandemic is ending, that Omicron is “mild,” and that public health measures to fight to pandemic can be relaxed or eliminated altogether.

Might want to read it two or three times and let that sink in.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:07pm

wow carl

you guys delayed and you got the more deadly omicron mark 2 .

you really messed up.

covid isnt even mentioned in the eastern states anymore.

the mainstream media have lost interest because the public realised it was no big deal

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:33pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 1:56pm:

Wednesday.... 3954 cases.
Tuesday........ 2847 cases.
Monday......... 2365 cases.
Sunday......... 2270 cases.
Saturday....... 2289 cases.

So, no exponential growth yet.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Right wing media.

Federal election coming up.

Join the dots.

Oh, it doesn't rate much of a mention in the media anywhere in Australia anymore even though we're still having the equivalent of a busload of deaths from Covid EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

covid isnt even mentioned in the eastern states anymore.

the mainstream media have lost interest because the public realised it was no big deal

Olga is on a roll here:

https://twitter.com/olga_basso/status/1501376386430296072

Just about says it all. Especially this one:

7

Quote:

Of course, we would have preferred people to become immune to the virus. Sadly, that didn’t work, so we had to make you immune from reality. (Seriously, had we known how easy that was going to be, we would have started with that….)

Oh, and...

3

Quote:

And don’t worry about brain damage. Nobody will notice anyway….

That's definitely true with a few people on this forum.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:25pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Oh, it doesn't rate much of a mention in the media anywhere in Australia anymore even though we're still having the equivalent of a busload of deaths from Covid EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Are you over 70 and/or with comorbidities?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:37pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Are you over 70 and/or with comorbidities?

No.

And, what difference does that make? People are still dying from Covid every day around Australia (another 21 reported today, btw) and I'm sure most or all of these people would probably still be alive if they hadn't been infected with Covid.

Have you recently joined the Church of Aquascoot which has repeatedly preached to us that the elderly and those with health issues need to be sacrificed to Covid so the young (and the economy, of course) can flourish?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:43pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Are you over 70 and/or with comorbidities?

No. Not a member of any church. Just wondering if you were in the high-risk category.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 3:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

covid isnt even mentioned in the eastern states anymore.

And then...

Brad Hazzard says NSW COVID-19 figures could double as Omicron sub-variant BA.2 emerges

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/nsw-covid-concern-at-rise-of-ba2-sub-variant/100898154

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 3:17pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 3:04pm:

My 5 free RAT's were delivered today.

Hope I never have to use them (especially having to do a nasal swab) but at least I have them if needed.

5005 new cases today for WA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/wa-records-5005-new-covid-19-cases-over-20000-active-infections/100901368

92 people in hospital, 3 in ICU.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 3:51pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 3:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 3:04pm:

3 in ICU

that is such a small small number.
we were told that our health system will be over run.

over run by 3 patients?

covid should be renamed Y2K

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 4:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

3 in ICU

that is such a small small number.
we were told that our health system will be over run.

over run by 3 patients?

covid should be renamed Y2K

WA is the highest double-vaxxed and boosted state in Australia.

Coincidence?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 4:16pm

5,200 cases today, here comes that exponential factor. McGowan should shut the border before the new variant arrives or its going to get catastrophic over there, where is he anyway!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 8:52pm

Johnnie wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 4:16pm:

5,200 cases today, here comes that exponential factor. McGowan should shut the border before the new variant arrives or its going to get catastrophic over there, where is he anyway!

Probably too late already. As usual.

Oh, Mark's been spending all of this week playing silly games in the Federal Court with Clive Palmer.

This week's lesson - always delete your text messages after sending/reading them. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 8:53pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 8:53pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 10:53pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Johnnie wrote on Mar 11^th, 2022 at 4:16pm:

5,200 cases today, here comes that exponential factor. McGowan should shut the border before the new variant arrives or its going to get catastrophic over there, where is he anyway!

Yes its a real bitch fight between Mark and Clive, unbelievable the verbal abuse these two are engaged in.

Mark has a catastrophe on his hands and a new variant is about to hit, the locals are scared after being locked away for 2yrs. Good luck to the Sand Gropers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 3:39pm

6,082 new Covid cases for WA and another tragic, unneccessary death.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-16/another-covid-19-death-in-wa-amid-record-6062-new-cases/100913242

Quote:

Western Australia has set another record for daily COVID-19 infections, with 6,062 new cases reported.

One person, a woman in her 80s, also passed away.

There are now 28,772 active cases in the state, including 123 in hospital – up from 112 yesterday.

Another 22 tragic Covid deaths around Australia in the past 24 hours. Of course, the media doesn't seem to bother reporting Covid deaths anymore.

People are now asking why there will be a limit of 500 people at the ANZAC Day dawn service at Kings Park on April 25th when Optus Stadium can have 30,000 people for the footy... I'm sure they're not expecting an answer. Not one that makes any sense, at least.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 3:51pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

People are now asking why there will be a limit of 500 people at the ANZAC Day dawn service at Kings Park on April 25th when Optus Stadium can have 30,000 people for the footy... I'm sure they're not expecting an answer. Not one that makes any sense, at least.

It's absolutely disgraceful.

I hope we find out the truth behind this one day.

I have no doubt at all that it boils down to money, but who's getting the brown paper bag?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mr Walker on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 5:12pm

The West Australians are running scared with the disease taking hold, nobody seems to know what's going on and the Abbo interpreter one has gone walkabout.

They probably don't want to kill off all the old remaining diggers at once is the only logic i can make of the restrictions in WA.

Where is McCowan these days, the dill.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 24^th, 2022 at 2:41pm

8,616 new Covid cases in WA in the past 24 hours.

209 hospitalisations (up 15), 9 in ICU.

7 NEW DEATHS.

https://covidlive.com.au/

We had 9 deaths since the start of the pandemic up until a few weeks ago now the death total stands at 30.

Every single person I have spoken to in the past few weeks (small business owners included) has said we were so much better off when the border was closed and we had no Covid, no masks and no restrictions.

Sad that we had to join the rest of Australia in the Covid cesspool but it was inevitable when you have politicians and big business dictating health policy in this country.

Another 35 people dead from Covid around Australia today, by the way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 24^th, 2022 at 4:01pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 24^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

8,616 new Covid cases in WA in the past 24 hours.

209 hospitalisations (up 15), 9 in ICU.

7 NEW DEATHS.

Don't know if it's true, but I've been told the likely estimated number of infections (which includes recorded and unrecorded) is 1 hospitalisation to every 250 infections.

That would mean the likely infections in WA is around 52,000.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 8:35am

Continuing along the path of making the same mistakes the rest of Australia has made...

WA records 7535 COVID cases and two historical deaths including teenage boy

Quote:

A teenage boy who had pre-existing medical conditions has died after testing positive to COVID-19 and a man in his 90s has also been reported, as Western Australia records 7535 new cases.

There's that "pre-existing medical condition" distraction again.

And, WTF are "historical deaths"? Are they milder than 'normal' deaths?

Quote:

On Thursday Premier Mark McGowan said the state was at the height of its Omicron wave, and it appeared the daily doubling of case numbers predicted by the Chief Health Officer’s modelling was over.

He announced most level two restrictions, which had capped household visitors at 10 and venue patrons to 150, would be lifted as of Thursday, March 31.

“Hospitalisation is the best measures to watch as to the impact of the virus in Western Australia because our situation is different,” he said.

“We have such high vaccination levels, that many people are actually contracting Omicron, yet they’re really not getting very sick.”

More wishful thinking there, Mark. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks, especially with winter rapidly approaching.

We also have new Covid variants now arriving from overseas, of course.

Quote:

Free RATs will now also be handed out to regional and remote communities across the state, in an aim to help increase testing figures and further reduce the spread.

A lot of people would prefer to have free masks instead. Especially low income people. I've seen quite a few people lately who look like they've been using the same (surgical) mask since masks became mandatory again in January. Some of them are absolutely filthy.

And, don't get me started on the number of "dick nose" and "chin nappy" mask wearers I still see when I'm out shopping.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am

Less than 200 hospitalisations in WA.

Hardly a sickness tsunami.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:16pm

Another 4 deaths for WA in the past 24 hours.

https://covidlive.com.au/

WA Covid death total now stands at 38.

We had 9 deaths for the entire 2 years up until WA went from a hard to a soft border on February 5th and then fully reopened on March 3rd.

A lot of people are now angry with Mark McGowan because up until a couple of months back we all believed he put peoples' health before money but it turns out he was just the same as the other State Premiers (and Scott Morrison, of course).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:27pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Less than 200 hospitalisations in WA.

Hardly a sickness tsunami.

Yes. Proof that McGowan's strategy worked.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:30pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Yep.

Massive crowds at the footy are fine, but you can't have crowds for ANZAC Day.

Not happy, Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

WA is easing Covid restrictions tomorrow even with cases and deaths on the increase.

9 deaths in the past 2 days which is equal to how many deaths we had for 2 years up until the border was opened. WA's death total now stands at 47.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-29/cho-warned-against-lifting-wa-covid-19-restrictions-too-early/100943970

Wouldn't have anything to do with the Eagles and Dockers AFL match at Optus Stadium this Sunday by any chance? Now they can have 45,000 spectators (75% capacity) instead of 30,000 (50%).

Funny about that but I'm sure Mark McGowan is following the health advice. ::)

(Another 34 Covid deaths reported for Australia today but not even a mention of it in the media. Disgraceful).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 9:06pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 5:44pm

WA’s daily COVID case numbers creep towards 10,000

Quote:

Western Australia’s daily COVID case numbers are yet to crack 10,000, with 9727 cases detected overnight as the state eases back to ‘level one’ restrictions.

What happened to "learning from the mistakes the other States have made", Mark? Oh, that's right... we have the AFL at Optus Stadium on Sunday and now they can have 15,000 more people attending now that restrictions have been reduced.

Superspreader event... here we come!

Quote:

He encouraged the community to take advantage of the easing of COVID restrictions from Thursday by going out and supporting hospitality businesses who had borne the brunt of the pandemic restrictions.

Yeah, nah... I don't think so. This will be the part where the hospitality businesses, etc. discover that it isn't the restrictions and masks that are keeping people away, they probably don't want to catch a potentially deadly virus which will now be made easier by removing restrictions.

Something we didn't need to worry about while the border was closed and we were Covid free.

But, I guess they need to learn the hard way just like the rest of the States have.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 2^nd, 2022 at 5:04pm

Just when you think we've reached peak stupidity.

Business and Opposition unite in call for an ‘end date’ to mask mandate as case numbers fall

Quote:

Mark McGowan is facing calls to set an end date for the indoor mask mandate, as WA reported a dip in COVID cases and hospitalisations on Friday.

And, our "esteemed" Perth Lord Mayor, Basil Zempilas is still at it as well.

https://twitter.com/BasilZempilas/status/1509661233754308609

Read the room, Baz (look at the replies). Here's one:

Quote:

Mark Pisarskis
@realbarrybright
·
Apr 1
Replying to
@BasilZempilas
and
@CityofPerth
People aren't avoiding the CBD because of the restrictions. They're either trying to avoid covid or they have covid.

And another:

Quote:

Elibell
@Elibell60594052
·
Apr 1
Replying to
@BasilZempilas
and
@CityofPerth
Masks have nothing to do the city being quiet. If anything people won’t be visiting the city/Northbridge if everyone is walking around without masks. No thanks. Try making it cleaner and safer that might help.

I still don't understand why Basil and the hospitality industry, etc. seemed to think that things would be different here in Perth once the border opened and Covid was let loose? Haven't they been watching the rest of Australia (and the rest of the world)?

Idiots.

By the way - I will still be wearing a mask even if Mark McGowan caves in (again) and scraps compulsory masks. Especially with the flu season just about to kick off after a welcome 2 year absence and a flu vaccine which I've heard will only be about 16% effective this year.

Oh, and The West Australian can go and get stuffed as well. Here's today's front page:

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 2^nd, 2022 at 5:48pm

Shhhh... we're not supposed to question things like this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RM83061653/status/1510054122166231040

And, I'm absolutely certain we'll never get an answer from the Federal government (or anyone else in authority).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 8:24pm

Getting to be a bit of a worry when WA has a 'tie' with NSW for the most number of Covid deaths in the past 24 hours.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Another 6 deaths... that's 53 since the "hard border" came down nearly 2 months ago.

How's that "safe transition" and "soft landing" going now, Mark McGowan?

Oh, and The West Australian is still whinging about masks today and is again calling for masks and all other Covid restrictions to be dropped.

Border open.............. still not happy.
Restrictions relaxed.... still not happy.

Wonder if they (and others like Basil Zempilas) will finally be happy when we start getting 100 deaths a day?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:40am

2 deaths Carl

That is such an incredibly incredibly low number
If that really was to stress your healthcare system
God help you

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:48am

Carl D wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2022 at 5:04pm:

And, our "esteemed" Perth Lord Mayor, Basil Zempilas is still at it as well.

https://twitter.com/BasilZempilas/status/1509661233754308609

Basil is such a dickhead.

We should deport him to Kastellorizo.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:51am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:40am:

2 deaths Carl

That is such an incredibly incredibly low number
If that really was to stress your healthcare system
God help you

It has got nothing to do with the healthcare system.

53 people have now died here in WA in the past 2 months and they would probably have still been alive if Covid hadn't been allowed to run loose.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Quote:

Deaths
Total Confirmed Deaths

NSW 2,461
Victoria 2,755
Queensland 747
SA 264
WA 62
Tasmania 31
ACT 42
NT 36

Australia 6,398

And, most of these 6,398 people would also have probably still been alive if it wasn't for Covid.

Worst of all... this horrendous ongoing death toll is being 'swept under the rug' by governments and the media for the sake of the economy (and Scott Morrison wanting to win the Federal election, of course).

Absolutely disgraceful.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 7:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 6:48am:

Basil is such a dickhead.

We should deport him to Kastellorizo.

lol... agreed.

I saw a tweet from a lady the other day and she said she was in Leederville last Friday night and the cafes, etc. were very busy, even with having to wear masks, use check ins and show vaccination certificates.

A chap commented that Basil Zemplilas should go and have a look seeing as Basil believes masks and other Covid restrictions are keeping people out of the Perth CBD.

He also commented that it's not like Basil doesn't know where Leederville is since he played crap football there for many years. ;D

And, finally... some common sense prevails.

Mark McGowan confirms WA’s state of emergency declaration will last beyond July

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan has confirmed his intention to keep WA in a state of emergency beyond July — a move that would allow COVID measures such as mandatory mask wearing and G2G passes to remain in place until after winter.

Now I'll just sit back and wait for the hospitality industry, Basil Zempilas, The West Australian and others to start their whinging again. Please don't 'cave in' to them (again), Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 7:44am

Hi Carl I saw the figures from Canada

60% of deaths were in nursing home patients
And 60% of Canadians who enter a nursing home had passed away within 12 months

This is not a disease which is threatening to the general population and they should be allowed to get on with human flourishing
To
It is insane to think that you would close down an entire state when 95% of the population are at virtually zero risk

We were told our hospital system might be overrun
We have truly dodged a bullet and we need to be incredibly grateful and learn our lessons

The number one lesson is
Work on your health and assume personal responsibility to be a healthy individual
Don't get fat
Eat an excellent diet
And don't expect politicians look after your health
An infant can expect it's mother to look after it's health
But for a grown man to expect a politician to look after his health is infantile

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 7:50am

And, once again aqua spectacularly misses the point.

Or deliberately chooses to ignore it.

So, tell me aqua - and I believe we've asked this question a few times before but we never get a proper answer - how many deaths do you consider acceptable so that the young (and the economy) can "flourish"?

By the way - it makes no difference how old the people are who have died from Covid. They were all someone's family member or loved one.

Go on... tell us. HOW MANY DEATHS?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:13am

If you go back 3 years we accepted several thousand deaths from influenza without closing state borders so I would consider several thousand to be quite reasonable

Western Australians share of several thousand would be several hundred

I would imagine that several hundred people also died from motor vehicle accidents in Western Australia

We could reduce that to 0 by
All agreeing to drive at 30 km an hour
That of course would be insane

As his closing down your state for the number of deaths which are currently occurring

No other place on the planet has done that
Are you a different species of human beings in Western Australia

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

And, seeing as you mentioned it - how many also completely avoidable flu deaths are now acceptable since it's been proven that Covid border closures and other restrictions over the past 2 years also prevent or drastically reduce flu deaths?

As I've said many times before - the population has been 'conditioned' to accept yearly flu deaths as 'normal' for decades.

Just like we're now being 're-conditioned' to accept them once again. On top of all the Covid deaths we're now experiencing, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 10:27am

Sigh

I give up

How many completely avoidable road fatalities are we willing to tolerate

Just because people are too selfish to drive at 20 km per hour

There should be a royal commission ::) ::) ::)

And all elderly people should live in solitary confinement
And have their meals past under the door
Their relatives are a threat to their health
If they live interstate most elderly people would prefer to never see them again
They are germ ridden scum
You can't put a price on a human life
And safety and security are the only issues worth consideration

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:02am

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

You are free to lock yourself in your house and never leave your property.

Have groceries and goods delivered.

And watch videos of the outdoors.

That way, apart from slipping over in the shower, and all the other domestic accidents that afflict those who never leave the house, you'll be safe from everything.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 1:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

carl would demand a personal carer in full PPE come and give him a sponge bath because a slip in the shower could be fatal.

there should be a royal commision into deaths in bathroom falls

Keeping up with hygiene is a good idea, but watch your step. The bathroom is full of ways to hurt yourself — and a new report estimates that nearly a quarter of a million Americans age 15 or older can back that up.

Bathing and showering appear to be particularly dangerous. Overall, about two-thirds of accidental injuries happen in the bathtub or shower — which makes sense, because each can become slippery. But many injuries involve the toilet: standing up, sitting down, or using it. (Yes, about 9% of the total injuries were from overexertion.)

Overall, mishaps near the bathtub, shower, toilet and sink caused an estimated 234,094 nonfatal injuries in the U.S. in 2008 among people at least 15 years old, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported online Thursday in its weekly Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. And the injury rate rises with age.

why isnt something being done about this

1/4 of a million injuries.

bathrooms should be made out of nerf.
airbags on every toilet seat
water in showers and baths should be prohibited.

its definitely safer to stay under your bed

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 1:44pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 4:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

That tired old 'argument' again, eh?

This may come as a big surprise to you but I have just as much right to leave my house whenever I choose just the same as you and the rest of the 'Freedumb' brigade have.

Furthermore, I also have the right to do so without running the risk of catching a dangerous and potentially deadly virus.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 5:30pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

Carl D wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Sigh.. I give up!

How many completely avoidable Covid deaths are acceptable?

You don't have a right to expect that you'll always be kept safe whenever you leave your house. Your fellow western Australians shouldn't have to risk their businesses being destroyed by a quixotic belief that this virus can be stopped by draconian measures that have proved to be useless against this variant.

What I also see in your posts is a faux sense of compassion for others.

You're really only thinking of yourself; expecting others making huge sacrifices for you so you can feel safe without any effort on your part.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:37am

And... the WA Covid s*itshow rolls on...

Parents urged to get children vaccinated as data reveals one-in-ten hospitalisations are kids

(Paywall again, of course).

I thought some members here were telling us for the past 2 years that Covid doesn't affect the young?

Also...

https://twitter.com/_marching_Ents_/status/1513065415215239170

https://twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1513094279572627456

Couldn't agree more. And, as I've said before... if Mark McGowan does cave in again and remove our last remaining protection - masks - I'll still be wearing one whenever I leave the house right up until at least the end of winter and so will my 92 year old aunt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 10:37am

Misinterpretation of the data

The new omicron variant is incredibly contagious so we would not be surprising if hundreds of thousands of Western Australians currently have it

We know from testing that in the United Kingdom 4 million people currently have it

That's about 1 in 13

So if for instance one in 13 children in Western Australia had kovid
Then when they go to hospital with their broken leg or to have their grommets put in
Or to get their appendix removed or because they fell off the trampoline and hit their head they will get a mandatory covid test and one in 13 of them will test positive

So yes we have a lot of children in hospital who are testing positive
But obviously our hospitals are not overrun by kovid
this is merely an incidental finding

The best thing we could do to soothe the anxiety of the hypochondriac is to just stop testing for what is a very mild respiratory virus

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 11:08am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 10:37am:

The best thing we could do to soothe the anxiety of the hypochondriac is to just stop testing for what is a very mild respiratory virus

I'm sure the families of the 73 West Australians who have died in the past 2 months since our border opened would disagree with that.

That's after WA having only 9 deaths for the whole 2 years since the start of the pandemic.

Were they all "mild" deaths?

Oh, by the way... do you have an answer for me yet?

I have to go to a dentist appointment in the Perth CBD shortly but I'll be back later... take your time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 16^th, 2022 at 1:33pm

Another 6,314 Covid cases for WA in the past 24 hours plus another 7 deaths.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1515156826018353154

That's 88 deaths for WA in the past 2 months and no-one seems to bat an eyelid anymore.

And, what's with all these *historical deaths*, Mr. McGowan? Every death we've had since the Covid floodgates were opened has apparently been a *historical death*.

Are they any less dead than say, "mild" deaths?

Oh, good question, Juls.

https://twitter.com/julsc44/status/1515158553224695811

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer from anyone in authority.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 17^th, 2022 at 2:03pm

WA has the highest number of Covid deaths in Australia for the first time today.

8 more deaths. And, we've also hit 100 deaths today (105) since the border opened just over 2 months ago. Another grim milestone.

https://covidlive.com.au/

The ACT haven't reported their numbers yet but I'm certain they won't have anywhere near 8 deaths.

And, the lower case numbers for WA today are no doubt because it's Easter and not many people will bother to get tested.

But, I'm sure that f-wit Basil Zempilas (Perth's Lord Mayor) and other idiots will try and use that to make another case for removing the mask mandate. Basil wants it removed by ANZAC Day at the latest.

Oh...

https://twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1515532971507580931

Yes, indeed. But, no answer will ever be forthcoming, as usual.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:02am

Mark McGowan has COVID now.

In a statement on Friday morning the Premier confirmed he contracted COVID-19 and would isolate until at least next Thursday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:21am

The West Australian Premier says he has tested positive to COVID-19.

Mark McGowan was forced into isolation earlier this week, after one of his family members tested positive.

He announced this morning that a positive PCR result meant he would be in isolation until at least next Thursday afternoon.

"Yesterday, I undertook another PCR test and the result came back positive," he said.

"It is not surprising considering one of my family members is positive.

"In accordance with protocols, this will extend my quarantine period until I am hopefully cleared to leave home next Thursday afternoon, at the earliest."

He said he will continue to work from home over that period.

It comes after his federal colleague, opposition leader Anthony Albanese also tested positive for COVID-19 yesterday, derailing his campaign plans.

Mr Albanese had been planning to visit WA today, making what would have been a third visit in the last two months.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:22am

WA Premier Mark McGowan tests positive to COVID-19

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:22am

Page finally flipped.

The West Australian Premier says he has tested positive to COVID-19.

Mark McGowan was forced into isolation earlier this week, after one of his family members tested positive.

He announced this morning that a positive PCR result meant he would be in isolation until at least next Thursday afternoon.

"Yesterday, I undertook another PCR test and the result came back positive," he said.

"It is not surprising considering one of my family members is positive.

"In accordance with protocols, this will extend my quarantine period until I am hopefully cleared to leave home next Thursday afternoon, at the earliest."

He said he will continue to work from home over that period.

It comes after his federal colleague, opposition leader Anthony Albanese also tested positive for COVID-19 yesterday, derailing his campaign plans.

Mr Albanese had been planning to visit WA today, making what would have been a third visit in the last two months.
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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:22am:

One of Mark McGowan's kids is in hospital with COVID :(

Not good.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 11:45am

One of West Australian Premier Mark McGowan’s children has been hospitalised due to a COVID-19 infection and is in a serious condition. :(

McGowan has also tested positive for the virus and is isolating at home.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 1:40pm

No-one seems to know yet whether it is Mr. McGowan's daughter or one of his two sons who is in hospital?

Hoping for a speedy recovery for Mark and his family.

Oh, and he had asked for privacy during this stressful time but The West Australian couldn't help themselves as usual and made it front page news today.

https://twitter.com/AnthDeCeglie/status/1517477938480168961

At least they've stopped criticising him (for the moment, anyway).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 7:13pm

3 doses of vaccine treatment doesn't seem to have helped them much and their natural immunity system has been undoubtably compromised.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 7:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2022 at 6:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2022 at 11:22am:

One of Mark McGowan's kids is in hospital with COVID :(

Not good.

So I heard.
Yes, very bad. Poor kid.

I keep my physical distancing ALL the time

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 12:25am

Good news!

WA Premier's son out of hospital but leader still in isolation with COVID-19

Quote:

WA Premier Mark McGowan's son has returned home after being treated in hospital for COVID-19.
The whole family has been hit by an outbreak of the virus, with the child rushed to hospital on Thursday in a serious condition.
He returned home on Saturday and the premier himself also remains in isolation after testing positive for COVID-19 on Friday.

Still doesn't say which son but it's good to see he is out of hospital and recovering.

I also thought The West Australian was a little clumsy (or was it deliberate?) on page 7 of today's paper with the story of the Premier's son in hospital in a serious condition and on the same page print a story about people infected with Omicron being less likely to be hospitalised.

Poor form is the politest way I could describe it.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 6:10am

Carl D wrote on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 12:25am:

Good news!

WA Premier's son out of hospital but leader still in isolation with COVID-19

Quote:

in todays paper there was a story about how road travel has never been safer thanks to airbags and seat belts and anti-lock brakes.

and then there was a story about a death in a car accident.

both things couldnt possibly be true could they carl.

poor form i say.

and i hope you are driving at 20 kph.

imagine if the premiers son ran out from behind a bus whilst you were driving.
dont be selfish now

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 1:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 6:10am:

still wrong.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 1:45pm

so just a silly meme carl.

you are the one asserting that death from covid is due to a criminal lack of regulation but death on the road is just acceptable.

hypocricy is what i call that.

(awaits next silly meme)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 24^th, 2022 at 1:57pm

And... here it comes. The final betrayal of the West Australian people (especially the elderly and vulnerable).

I thought the WA State government was supposed to have learned from all the mistakes that the other States have made but we've done the exact same stupid things except they were made just a few months later than the other States.

This was the last thing I expected to see on the front page of today's paper especially after Mark McGowan has just had one of his own children in hospital with Covid.

I hope one day someone in the State government leaks documents showing exactly who the people are that have pressured him into removing every single Covid protection the population of WA had but I'm pretty sure a lot of us could come up with some pretty accurate guesses.

Basil Zempilas (Perth's Lord Mayor) will no doubt be ecstatic but let's see what excuse he comes up with next when the Perth CBD is still a ghost town after the masks are dropped.

Well, my elderly aunt and I won't stop using our masks anytime soon and if anyone tries to abuse us for still wearing them they'd better watch out. Might have to say something like "I'm still wearing a mask because I've got Covid, come over here and let me cough on you" and watch their reaction.

Of course, the smart people will continue to wear masks but unfortunately there aren't too many around these days. The majority seem to have swallowed the government/big business BS that the pandemic is over.

Oh, I also suspect Mark McGowan knows a lot of people are not very happy with him lately because he hasn't allowed any replies to his Twitter posts for the past few days (yes, I know he doesn't actually run the account but I'm sure he's instructed whoever does run it to block comments).

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP

Click on any of 'his' posts for the past few days.

Quote:

Who can reply?
People @MarkMcGowanMP follows or mentioned can reply

I know there are a lot of d*ckheads on Twitter but we're supposed to be living in a democracy and people should have the right to comment on 'your' posts, Mark.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 2:44pm

lol. ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Another 8 "historical" deaths for WA since yesterday.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1518777549739814912

That's 116 deaths since the border opened 2 months ago (remember we only had 9 deaths for 2 years up until then).

Oh, and Mark... it doesn't look good for you when you're still not allowing comments on your daily reports.

Quote:

Who can reply?
People @MarkMcGowanMP follows or mentioned can reply

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 2:59pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 2:59pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 2:59pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:14pm

116 deaths and 2 million people able to engage in human flourishing.

mark can count

thank god for democracy

look at china, still locked down.

maybe you could get a visa carl

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:27pm

And... the gutless wonder has finally sold out to business just like the rest of the State Premiers did.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1518825562835685376

"Soft landing" my @ss. 116 avoidable deaths (so far). And, let's not mention Long Covid or the increasing cases of hepatitis in childen overseas who have had Covid.

Gutless wonder because he's still blocking replies to his announcements and I've also heard he had to suddenly "rush off" from his press conference when reporters started asking questions.

You've now lost what little respect I still had left for you, Mark. And, I suspect an awful lot of West Australians feel exactly the same way.

https://twitter.com/xuchuanmei/status/1518829524422914048

Amen, sister.

Oh, and God help anyone who tries to harrass me or my elderly aunt when we keep wearing our masks whenever we're out of the house (which will be happening even less now than what it was already).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:39pm

Not even Mark could hold out forever, are the filthy unvaxxed allowed into bottle shops over there yet!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:43pm

Johnnie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Not even Mark could hold out forever, are the filthy unvaxxed allowed into bottle shops over there yet!

Mark caved in on that one a few months back.

Probably because he was worried about potential lawsuits from bottle shop staff who were being abused and even physically assaulted by the unvaxxed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:47pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Not even Mark could hold out forever, are the filthy unvaxxed allowed into bottle shops over there yet!

Mark caved in on that one a few months back.

Probably because he was worried about potential lawsuits from bottle shop staff who were being abused and even physically assaulted by the unvaxxed.

That's good to hear, at least i know won't die of thirst when i go there after years of uncertainty.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2022 at 8:06am

Some people believe the reason why McGowan has caved in and removed the mask mandate as of this Friday is because he's worried that keeping masks will cost Labor votes in the upcoming Federal election.

I can believe that.

Doesn't matter that he's throwing the elderly and vulnerable under the Covid bus, of course.

Well, Labor has lost my vote in the upcoming election. In fact, I will never vote for either of the two main parties ever again. As someone once said - they're just the left and right wings of the same turkey.

My vote will be going to an Independent and I will be advising everyone I speak to from now until the election to do the same.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27^th, 2022 at 10:22am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2022 at 8:06am:

I completely agree with you (and Labor aren't getting my first preference in this election) however, your vote will ultimately go to the major party you put second last on the ballot paper (assuming you put the other one last).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 12:16am

Thanks, Greg.

Actually, I may even go back to voting for the 'Informal Party' like I used to do many years ago.

Meanwhile, the WA Covid deaths and cases continue to climb.

https://twitter.com/7perth/status/1519170167431110656

Quote:

Western Australia has now recorded 129 COVID-19 deaths in 2022. Modelling released in February predicted 129 deaths over 180 days. WA has achieved this after just 64 days, some 116 days sooner than expected.

So much for the "modelling" (which in itself was completely unacceptable to me and many others, I'm sure).

No wonder Mark McGowan has disabled replies for 'his' daily Covid reports on Twitter for the past week.

Also, one has to wonder how many deaths are occurring at home seeing as New South Wales is the only State releasing this information at the moment. Sort of.

Most health departments not tracking COVID home deaths

Only one state health department publicly releases the number of COVID deaths that occur in the home, with the majority limiting information to hospital fatalities.

Quote:

Aged care deaths – which have risen sharply in 2022 – are also tallied weekly to provide a more complete and transparent view of the situation.

But as it stands, only one health department in the country – New South Wales – is publicly releasing the number of COVID deaths that have occurred in the home – albeit in an inconsistent fashion with a lag of at least five days.

All other states and territories either do not track the information (ACT, South Australia, Northern Territory, Western Australia, Queensland) or do not release it publicly (Tasmania) due to patient privacy concerns. Victoria, meanwhile, responded to a newsGP query by stating that its data team would need ‘several days’ to look into the information request but never provided a figure.

As a consequence, there is no way of knowing how many people are dying at home due to COVID, potentially without access to the type of care they need.

Shocking.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 11:58am

not shocking at all.

health departments SHOULD be working on the big health problems
diabetes, heart disease stroke and cancer

not wasting time gathering statistics on a minor respiratory virus,

its a matter of setting priorities.

covid is no longer and probably never should have been anywhere near the number 1 priority

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 4:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 11:58am:

not wasting time gathering statistics on a minor respiratory virus,

That "minor respiratory virus" has just killed another 49 Australians in the past 24 hours.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Including another 7 here in WA.

If things keep going the way they are there will be 10,000 or more Covid deaths in Australia by the end of the year.

And you're perfectly OK with that, are you?

While you're thinking... here's something else to ponder:

https://twitter.com/NjbBari3/status/1519504524645310464

Quote:

Did you genuinely believe a virus whose closest relative is SARS1 would turn into a cold?

Did you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 5:00pm

Our cases jumped up to 8,888 today didn't they - an increase of about 2,000?

Who would have thought that would happen after Easter and Anzac Day? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm

My elderly aunt and I went to Belmont Forum for a short time this morning and then to our local IGA on the way home.

I was pleasantly surprised to see so many people who haven't swallowed the government/big business Kool-Aid about the pandemic being "over" and are still wearing masks just like we were.

Mark McGowan is still not allowing replies to 'his' daily Covid reports on Twitter, I see.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1519859706676015104

When can we expect that "soft landing", Mark?

Because, even if you believe we've already achieved it there are lots of us who believe the worst is yet to come.

Especially with more worrying new variants still arriving in Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm

flip page again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

And again... ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

I've come into my office in the city today and it's the same here - still lots of people wearing masks.

Good to see.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 6:18pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

good, so do we.
We are in Queensland and I wear a mask wherever there are a lot of people or I cannot physically distance myself.

A mask is not mandatory, it is voluntary :)

I'll be doing it for the foreseeable future, just bought another box of 50

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 7:57pm

But, while it was encouraging to see the number of people still wearing masks at Belmont Forum today I was a bit surprised to see many elderly people not wearing them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30^th, 2022 at 1:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

Our cases jumped up to 8,888 today didn't they - an increase of about 2,000?

Who would have thought that would happen after Easter and Anzac Day? ::)

We kept our distance durin the local dawn service

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30^th, 2022 at 1:33am

Carl D wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 4:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 11:58am:

not wasting time gathering statistics on a minor respiratory virus,

Did you genuinely believe a virus whose closest relative is SARS1 would turn into a cold?

Did you?

yes. I hear you

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 1^st, 2022 at 1:32pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Well, I've noticed since I posted that on Friday the number of people still wearing masks at our IGA has dropped dramatically.

I haven't been back to Belmont Forum since Friday but I suspect the same thing has happened there which makes me believe that most of those I saw still wearing masks on Friday probably didn't know they were no longer mandatory.

Other people have noticed the same thing happening in other parts of Perth and suburbs.

Disappointing. But, I'm not really surprised when you consider that the majority of people these days seem be just mindless sheep. The hoarding of toilet rolls and other 'essentials' was a perfect example.

And, governments and big business just love their huge flock of obedient 'sheep', don't they?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 1^st, 2022 at 2:23pm

Carl D wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 1:32pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

incorrect.

those still wearing masks are those sheep who were sucked into the fear mongering.

its a blessing that so many people are waking up.

the only tragedy in WA at the moment is the eagles

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 1^st, 2022 at 6:12pm

aquascoot wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 2:23pm:

incorrect.

those still wearing masks are those sheep who were sucked into the fear mongering.

its a blessing that so many people are waking up.

the only tragedy in WA at the moment is the eagles

https://twitter.com/EbonyJHilton_MD/status/1519834335851204608

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1^st, 2022 at 6:18pm

Carl D wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 1^st, 2022 at 2:23pm:

incorrect.

those still wearing masks are those sheep who were sucked into the fear mongering.

its a blessing that so many people are waking up.

the only tragedy in WA at the moment is the eagles

https://twitter.com/EbonyJHilton_MD/status/1519834335851204608

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Yep.

It's just astounding how utterly stupid people have become.

"Here is a vaccination that is scientifically proven to almost certainly stop you from dying".

"No thanks, I'd rather take horse paste which has not been proven to be effective in treating COVID-19 in any country on planet Earth. You can keep your science - I'll stick with TikTok, thank you very much".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 2^nd, 2022 at 8:51am

Hey, Basil - you enormous prat. Got anything to say about this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1520659727046557696

Probably not. He's too busy being "happy" about things like this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BasilZempilas/status/1520617925987934208

"Piet Street". ;D

I bet you can't wait for the Edit button for Twitter (on it's way, so I've heard).

And, no... you WON'T see me in the City today. Or tomorrow. Or any other day in the foreseeable future. Not without having a mask on, anyway.

Idiot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2^nd, 2022 at 9:42am

Carl D wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 8:51am:

Basil is such a dick.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2022 at 9:42am:

Basil is such a dick.

Isn't he just?

https://twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1521043911388852224

lol... I suspect Lotus was quite surprised when Basil actually replied (and expected to get an answer from her). ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:19am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:19am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2022 at 12:19am

flip page x3.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2022 at 1:47pm

Had a call from a lady at the Seniors Centre in Belmont this morning.

My 92 year old aunt can't go there tomorrow morning to have her hair done like she usually does every Wednesday because the lady who does everyone's hair up there has Covid (and, she's 60 years old so it might be bad for her).

Let's hope she didn't have it when my aunt was there last Wednesday. Everyone wears masks but it is still a bit of a worry.

My aunt seems OK at the moment... might have to start using some of those 15 free RAT's we all got from Mark McGowan soon. And, needless to say, if anything happens to her as a result of getting Covid I am going to be extremely pissed off.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 4^th, 2022 at 6:09pm

https://youtu.be/RdWDm7wS3W4

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 4^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

https://youtu.be/RdWDm7wS3W4

lol... so true. But, I'm surprised Basil Zempilas didn't get a mention in there somewhere.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:43am

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Does your aunt run a small business in Perth?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:51am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:43am:

Does your aunt run a small business in Perth?

What a strange question.

And, no she doesn't (obviously).

So, are you saying elderly people like my aunt should risk their lives to get their hair done for $20 (which is what my aunt and the other seniors pay)?

By the way... I'm watching this situation very closely and I've already told my aunt that she might not be going there anymore from now on. She's not particulary happy but she understands.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 9:04am

I was talking to one of our elderly neighbours (she's in her 80's) yesterday morning and during the conversation I mentioned that my aunt and I were still wearing masks when we go shopping, etc.

Her response was "oh, you don't need to do that anymore, didn't you know?"

I replied "yes, we know. But, Covid hasn't gone away despite what the government wants everyone to believe. In fact, it appears to be getting worse".

She was surprised to hear that and I've always considered her to be quite intelligent. I'm guessing she will now go back to wearing a mask whenever she leaves the house (which isn't very often).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 5^th, 2022 at 9:04am

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 8:43am:

Does your aunt run a small business in Perth?

At 92, if she doesn't suffer from severe sleep apnoea, your aunt would risk her life more than most of us when she gets out of bed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 5^th, 2022 at 9:18am

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 9:04am:

I still wear a mask at my mother's house, and she always wears one when she's out.

It's just sensible.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 5^th, 2022 at 12:11pm

carl and gweg go shopping , armed with their pepper spray ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjk0zPEbCEo

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:02pm

aquascoot wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 12:11pm:

~~carl and gweg go shopping , armed with their pepper spray~~ ;D ;D ;D

Not actually Covid related but I'll mention this here if it's OK?

Just came back from the Kooyong Road shops and I was wondering if the WA Department of Communities was aware of an election 'poster' being put up on the fence of one of their public housing properties across the road from IGA?

Wouldn't have thought that would be allowed? Can't imagine the Department putting it up themselves (especially since it's for the Liberal Party and we have a State Labor government) and I find it hard to believe the resident(s) in the front unit would have put it up themselves and I doubt they would be allowed to do it anyway?

Besides, I doubt that anyone living in public housing would vote for the Liberals? Mind you, nothing would surprise me anymore after what we've all been dealing with for the past 2 years.

Oh, Greg... Kristy McSweeney is the Liberal replacement for Steve Irons who has now retired from politics. Thank goodness. :)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:24pm

10,182 new cases in WA today and 6 more "historical" deaths.

Have we reached the peak yet, Mark McGowan? I thought you told us we'd already reached the peak with 7,000 - 8,000 cases a day a few weeks back?

And, we're still waiting for that "soft landing" you've been telling us about over and over. So far we've hit the runway hard and bounced off several times and we're getting close to having the undercarriage collapse resulting in a total wreck on the next attempt.

Pathetic... we're all so disappointed with you after you finally caved in to big business just like the other Premiers did.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

small business carl.

coffee shops, tourism operators, gyms, hairdressers, resturants.

not everyone is a chode on a government benefit

some people had the courage to start a business and we have an obligation to support them

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:42pm

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:02pm:

Oh, Greg... Kristy McSweeney is the Liberal replacement for Steve Irons who has now retired from politics. Thank goodness. :)

Yeah, I found out yesterday when Mum was doing her postal vote.

She put the number 10 in McSweeney's box :)

Good to see Irons gone.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

"Soft landing"

https://twitter.com/NotTomorrowOk/status/1522074151481409539

After reading the replies at least it's good to see some people can keep a bit of a sense of humour.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 5^th, 2022 at 4:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:02pm:

Oh, Greg... Kristy McSweeney is the Liberal replacement for Steve Irons who has now retired from politics. Thank goodness. :)

Yeah, I found out yesterday when Mum was doing her postal vote.

She put the number 10 in McSweeney's box :)

Good to see Irons gone.

isnt it forbidden by the electoral commission to watch someone else fill in their ballot

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:07am

aquascoot wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Carl D wrote on May 5^th, 2022 at 2:02pm:

Oh, Greg... Kristy McSweeney is the Liberal replacement for Steve Irons who has now retired from politics. Thank goodness. :)

Yeah, I found out yesterday when Mum was doing her postal vote.

She put the number 10 in McSweeney's box :)

Good to see Irons gone.

isnt it forbidden by the electoral commission to watch someone else fill in their ballot

No.

Quite the opposite.

My mother had to sign an elector declaration stating that she filled out the ballot papers in my presence, and I then had to sign as an authorised witness.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:28am

One does have to wonder though

How many elderly people being looked after by relatives are merely allowing their relative to double dip

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 11:27am

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:28am:

One does have to wonder though

How many elderly people being looked after by relatives are merely allowing their relative to double dip

Maybe.

Even worse, when my father passed away I called the AEC to let them know and they removed him from the electoral roll without me having to produce any sort of identification or a death certificate. They just took my word for it over the phone.

And, if I hadn't called them my mother would have received his ballot in the mail last week and could have filled it out on his behalf.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 6^th, 2022 at 11:58am

this is problematic.

a simple solution would be to ban those over 70 from voting

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 12:01pm

aquascoot wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 11:58am:

this is problematic.

a simple solution would be to ban those over 70 from voting

It IS problematic, but that's not the solution (or the point of my post).

In fact, the voting age should probably be lowered to 16.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 6^th, 2022 at 1:34pm

Another 9,328 cases and fortunately no *historic* deaths today. But, hospital cases are on the increase unfortunately.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1522397903092076545

Have we reached that "peak" now, Mr. McGowan?

Still not allowing replies, I see. Why not?

And, we're still waiting to see that "soft landing".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVyZeSgxmsw

Captain McGowan bringing WA in for a soft landing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 2:16pm

Carl D wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 1:34pm:

We've got another two weeks (at least) of this ahead of us, so I believe, and the medical professionals are urging everyone to keep wearing masks indoors.

I just came back from Victoria Park Central and I noticed that about 30% of people were wearing masks, which is not too bad but it could be better.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6^th, 2022 at 7:21pm

I need to cast an early vote. Will do so Monday.

I have had a laugh—a Greens corflute “Real Climate Action” when the “green” neoliberals blocked on attempt by Labor to price carbon and sabotaged the attempt by Gillard.

Honest corflute would read:

Quote:

Vote Green for NO action on climate change!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McCoward is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:10pm

You missed an apostrophe, idiot!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Only his party, his draconian hold out longer than anyone else in the world dictatorship is going to bite him and his mates on the bum, mark my words Gowan one.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:42pm

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Only his party, his draconian hold out longer than anyone else in the world dictatorship is going to bite him and his mates on the bum, mark my words Gowan one.

How will it hit Mr McGowan in a federal election?

Do you understand how our federation works?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

He is an idiot.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:45pm

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

He is an idiot.

You don't understand how our federation works, do you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Only his party, his draconian hold out longer than anyone else in the world dictatorship is going to bite him and his mates on the bum, mark my words Gowan one.

How will it hit Mr McGowan in a federal election?

Do you understand how our federation works?

Everyone will be voting liberal there, understand a protest vote and the coward trying to outdo Xi.

In 2 weeks Mark will know his popularity, dictator Mark. 3 jabs or your job Mark. No jab no bottle shop mark. No entry into WA Mark. Mark the dictator.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:31pm

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Only his party, his draconian hold out longer than anyone else in the world dictatorship is going to bite him and his mates on the bum, mark my words Gowan one.

How will it hit Mr McGowan in a federal election?

Do you understand how our federation works?

Mr. McGowan isn't up for re-election.

What part of this don't you understand?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 9:31pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Standby for the protest vote in WA, McGowan is well and truly on the nose these days, the dictators days are numbered.

Mark McGowan is the state Premier (with a high approval rating).

His job isn't on the line in a federal election.

Only his party, his draconian hold out longer than anyone else in the world dictatorship is going to bite him and his mates on the bum, mark my words Gowan one.

How will it hit Mr McGowan in a federal election?

Do you understand how our federation works?

Mr. McGowan isn't up for re-election.

What part of this don't you understand?

Labors party brand which the coward stands for and locked everyone away for will get its ass kicked because everyone knows now he is on the nose. Gowan is Australia's 2nd best dictator behind BRI Dan, Vic is another state lost in this election, 300,000 sacked construction workers are not likely to do Dan and his labors brand any favours there.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on May 7^th, 2022 at 3:27pm

We should cut off WA with a hard border lockdown with them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 7^th, 2022 at 5:01pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 7^th, 2022 at 3:27pm:

We should cut off WA with a hard border lockdown with them.

Yes please :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 7^th, 2022 at 5:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 7^th, 2022 at 3:27pm:

We should cut off WA with a hard border lockdown with them.

They have always been cut off, its long trek to WA. Their 2yrs in isolation under McGowan hasn't done them any good.

They will start growing 2 heads like the Tasmanians soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by buzzanddidj on May 9^th, 2022 at 8:50am

Johnnie wrote on May 7^th, 2022 at 5:30pm:

Their 2yrs in isolation under McGowan hasn't done them any good.

I think the population of WA might disagree

At the recent WA state election, Opposition Leader Liberal Zak Kirkup publicly conceded defeat - THREE WEEKS before the first vote was cast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBu04iTrfDQ

.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 10^th, 2022 at 1:47pm

Surely our worthless right wing daily rag has to be taking the p*ss with this?

Especially since they were one of the main 'players' constantly pushing for our border to open followed by pushing for masks to be dropped with the not so surprising result of Covid running wild and cases, deaths and hospitalisations going up and up.

A new record of 12,390 cases for WA today and 6 more *historic* deaths.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1523850432564498433 (STILL not allowing replies I see, Mark. Not a good look, I can assure you).

I'm almost convinced that those running this "news"paper are ex or even current University of Western Australia students who have spent a lot of time writing articles for Prosh because it's hard to tell the difference anymore.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 10^th, 2022 at 1:58pm

yeah carl

those hospitals are over run by diabetics, the obese, the depressed and anxious.

the superior self reliant man never calls an ambulance.

we must teach self reliance and take the strain off the system

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2022 at 12:15pm

Have we reached that peak yet, Mark?

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1524208076311580673

17,033 new cases and 3 more *historic* deaths. :o

Smashing it right out of the park there, champ. ::)

At least you've turned comments back on. For now, anyway.

**Oh, wait... he's turned them off again after quite a few replies. His "Twitter Intern" must have forgotten to turn them off right after posting the daily report like they've been doing for the past 3 weeks.

Won't be long before mandatory masks are back now, will it? You might even get Basil Zempilas to agree this time seeing as he's also just had Covid.

But, I doubt it. Hope he didn't give it to his elderly mother on Mothers Day. Or his kids.

Oh, we're also still waiting for that "soft landing", Mark.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:17pm

Wonder if Mark remembers this?

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1486527113645551618

We've gone from the best to the worst place in the world for Covid in just over 3 months. Congratulations.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:18pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:18pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:18pm

My aunt and I were going to vote early this morning at the polling place across from Belmont Forum (used to be a Retravision shop many years ago from memory).

After seeing how many people were lining up, some without masks and with no social distancing that we could see (despite advertising we've seen about polling places being "Covid Safe") we decided to give it a miss today.

Or we might have another look later in the day to see if it's less busy if we go for a drive after lunch.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:03am

Carl D wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

Well done Mark, a long slow clap for Mark, 2 years long but at least he come second to China in holding back the tide.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:25am

its a fact that fear and hiding under your bed leads to mediocrity.

the west coast eagles who are usually a powerhouse are playing like firghtened school girls and have been thrashed ruthlessly in every match.

thats what happens whne you lose courage to stand up and be a man.
you start to behave like a frightened child.

it is the job of the father figure (in this case mcgowan ) to be strong powerful confident brave unflinching and able to crack jokes and be witty about any "problem" the people face as they will vibe with his vibe.

look at florida and texas which did better then NY and california.
they acted as if covid didnt exist and they did better then the cowering democrat states.

trump himself never flinched and acted scared.

look what happens when you get a shakey frightened "weak sauce " leader.

bad things.

the russian invasion of ukraine is a direct result of the vibe given off by the western leaders.

time for leaders to "man up"
time for the eagles to go into battle confident in themselves, not trying to find a safe space

there is no glory in safety.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by scope on May 12^th, 2022 at 6:36am

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:25am:

Only in horse boys world did Florida and Texas do better than New York, why do you insist in telling lies?

Are you really that much of a failure that you have to lie (and hope nobody checks) to prove your pathetic point?

Well looks like you failed again, but given you admire such a huge failure as Trump, it's not surprising.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:14am

Incorrect

They were less deaths per head of population in Texas and Florida then in New York and California

White flag accepted

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:28am

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

Incorrect

They were less deaths per head of population in Texas and Florida then in New York and California

White flag accepted

Incorrect.

You're looking at old data.

As of 3 days ago, California has a much lower death rate than both Florida and Texas.

Per 100,000 people:

Florida - 345

Texas - 304

California - 229

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:34am

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:25am:

it is the job of the father figure (in this case mcgowan ) to be strong powerful confident brave unflinching and able to crack jokes and be witty about any "problem" the people face as they will vibe with his vibe.

Try as hard as I may I'm struggling to find something even remotely funny about people dying and being hospitalised due to Covid.

161 deaths here in WA in the past 3 months since the "hard border" which enabled us to "only" have 9 deaths in 2 years finally fell.

Nearly 5,500 dead from Covid for the whole of Australia since the beginning of this year. The country is 'on track' to have 15,000 (some say it might be as high as 18,000) Covid deaths by the end of this year.

Can't imagine any sane person cracking jokes and being witty about that.

And, since you're obviously in the "we're all going to get Covid so why bother trying to stop or slow it" camp here's something just for you.

Others are also welcome to play.

"We're all going to get COVID so there's no point trying to prevent it anymore" is the stupidest self-fulfilling prophecy since _____________.

Go.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:36am

Carl D wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

https://youtu.be/tFdqJO1WGhs

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:38am

Oh, my aunt and I did manage to vote yesterday afternoon after we went back and the polling place was a lot quieter.

Won't say who we voted for except to say that Scott Morrison and the Liberals are now another 2 votes closer to defeat on May 21st. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:39am

Carl D wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:34am:

aquascoot wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:25am:

Try as hard as I may I'm struggling to find something even remotely funny about people dying and being hospitalised due to Covid.

161 deaths here in WA in the past 3 months since the "hard border" which enabled us to "only" have 9 deaths in 2 years finally fell.

Nearly 5,500 dead from Covid for the whole of Australia since the beginning of this year. The country is 'on track' to have 15,000 (some say it might be as high as 18,000) Covid deaths by the end of this year.

Can't imagine any sane person cracking jokes and being witty about that.

And, since you're obviously in the "we're all going to get Covid so why bother trying to stop or slow it camp" here's something just for you.

Others are also welcome to play.

"We're all going to get COVID so there's no point trying to prevent it anymore" is the stupidest self-fulfilling prophecy since _____________.

Go.

Indeed, he is in that camp.

Everyone is going to die, so why does aqua bother wearing a seat belt? Why does he look both ways before crossing the road? Why does he eat healthy foods? Why does he take the medications prescribed to him by his doctor? Why does he stop at stop signs? Why does he wear a helmet when riding a horse/pushbike/motorbike?

Does he think he's invincible?

He's gonna day sooner or later - why do so many things to try and prevent it?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:41am

Fewer in Texas and Florida than in NY but more than in California.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:42am

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:41am:

Fewer in Texas and Florida than in NY but more than in California.

Correct.

aqua's white flag has been accepted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:44am

Carl D wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:38am:

Zaneta for Swan [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Zaneta was born in Kalgoorlie and grew up in Kambalda – a nickel mining town where her dad was a fitter and mum the kindy cleaner.

When Zaneta was 18, she moved to Perth to study science and engineering at Curtin University and since then, in her 15 year career as an engineer, she has worked in dozens of sites across regional WA and Victoria.

For the last 8 years, Zaneta and her husband have lived in East Victoria Park, where they are now raising their two children, Lincoln and Felicity. They love living there and are committed to their local community.

If Zaneta is elected, she’ll be on your side, fighting passionately for families like hers in Swan, and working tirelessly with you for a strong and fair society.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Zaneta for Swan.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Hey, Greg.

Did you see the front page of yesterday's West Australian?

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1524006571910512642

Only in that rag of a "news"paper could a politician (only a Labor politician, of course) make front page "news" for supporting a carbon tax to try and reduce pollution and global warming.

Unbelieveable. Just when you think The West Australian has hit 'rock bottom' they grab that shovel and keep on digging.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:55am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:56am

flip page again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:58am

Carl D wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Zaneta for Swan.

No, I didn't see that. Nasty stuff.

I wouldn't use the West Australian to wipe my arse.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 1:25pm

16,670 new cases (most for any State for 2 days in a row) and another 6 deaths... oops, sorry... *historical* deaths.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1524570847796547585

The WA Government 'Twitter Intern' was back on the ball again today and made sure no-one could reply. ::)

Looks like we've also got more problems with the hospitals.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1524548650827141120

Doesn't surprise me. I was supposed to drive one of our neighbours down to Royal Perth Hospital next Monday at 6am, he told me yesterday that the appointment has now been cancelled.

I hope he's OK because he's in his 60's and has a lot of medical issues and is in and out of hospital a lot.

But, I'm sure Mark's $400 towards our power bills will distract everyone from all the Covid deaths, hospitalisations and hospital problems for a while.

(I'll have to check and see how much car registrations, water, gas and other charges go up in this week's State Budget)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 12^th, 2022 at 1:56pm

Carl D wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 1:25pm:

Oh! :o

I took my mother into RPH this morning at 6am (drop-off at the rose garden in Wellington St) for day surgery.

She's still in there, and nobody has called me, so I assume her surgery went ahead.

Funnily enough, I told her on the way in that she was lucky to be having it done today as I thought elective surgery might be stopped soon considering our high case numbers.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 12^th, 2022 at 2:06pm

WA is coming back to the field with leader McCoward's head held low, its too bad he screwed so many people over for such a long period of time on his power trip, he is like Dictator Dan.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 12^th, 2022 at 5:30pm

déjà vu.

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1524637046060593152

https://www.perthnow.com.au/opinion/ben-oshea-mark-mcgowan-got-it-wrong-on-the-covid-peak-in-wa-and-must-acknowledgehes-letting-the-virus-rip-c-6730073?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&tid=1652334557371

Would be quite hilarious if the consequences were not so tragic with increasing Covid cases and deaths.

Especially when EXACTLY the same thing happened in the other States when they reopened their borders.

Quote:

AB www.decemberfairytale.com.au
@silentanb
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@YouAreLobbyLud
Same with those in SA, hospo bayed for the border to open then they got demolished by sars2 and then the shadow lockdown and blamed Marshall. Marshall got voted out for it, despite giving them what they thought they wanted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by walker on May 12^th, 2022 at 6:28pm

Hail McGowan. Worlds largest infection rate and increasing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 12:44am

Johnnie wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 6:28pm:

Hail McGowan. Worlds largest infection rate and increasing.

Indeed.

So are deaths... and not just from Covid.

Perth woman dies after waiting hours for ambulance with chest pains

Quote:

A Perth family is demanding answers after an 80-year-old grandmother fell victim to Western Australia’s health crisis.

Georgina Wild died from a suspected heart attack while waiting 2½ hours for an ambulance.

Absolutely shocking and disgraceful.

And, it doesn't look like things are going to get better anytime soon.

Hospitalisation warning not peak scaremongering, just facts, as health system shows the strain

Quote:

Hospitalisations rose above 300 yesterday, within a range that the AMA (WA) said should trigger a response from the State Government to reduce the impact on the overstretched health system.

This afternoon, AMA (WA) President Dr Mark Duncan-Smith spoke to the media, addressing the range of problems besetting the health system, as well as the contention from the Premier that there was “scaremongering” by some about the effect of the recent peak, which the Chief Health Officer believes will rise to about 25,000 daily cases.

Quote:

Dr Duncan-Smith reiterated calls for the mask mandate to be reintroduced, and advised the community to mask up indoors, to reduce the spread of COVID-19.

“It is now two weeks since the McGowan Government reduced restrictions and lifted the mask mandate, as expected and anticipated at that time. We’re now seeing hospitalisations increase as a direct consequence of that decision.

So, Mark McGowan... was all that talk for the past 2 years about wanting to protect West Australians and not wanting to see anyone die from Covid just BS from you? We've gone from 9 deaths to 187 in less than 3 months.

I (and many others I'm sure) would love to know who is pulling your strings and made you cave in just like the other State premiers did. I can probably guess but I'm sure the truth will come out one day. Hopefully before the next State election.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 17^th, 2022 at 5:24am

someone died from a heart attack because so much nonsense is going on with hospital staff spending 1/2 their day concentrating on covid and doing meaningless rat tests and wiping down benches and asking every visitor to fill in forms .

this is a death from heart disease (very common) that would not have occurred if we ignored a mild respiratory virus and concentrated on what matters.

by amping up the fear of covid (something carl likes to do) other important diseases get sidelined and people die.

time to stop testing and get on with whats important (not covid)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 9:22am

aquascoot wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 5:24am:

time to stop testing and get on with whats important (not covid)

I'm sure the families of the 36 Australians who have died in the past 24 hours from just NSW and Victoria would like to hear that.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Sadly, it looks like yesterday's low numbers were (once again) just a temporary drop.

Maybe we will finally see something done about stopping this carnage after the Federal election but I won't be holding my breath.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:00am

aquascoot wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 5:24am:

Ambulance wait times have little to do with covid as only the most severe covid cases require an ambulance.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:16am

aquascoot wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 5:24am:

No, not at all.

She died because the ambulance took 2 and a half hours to get to her.

It was a Saturday night/early Sunday morning.

There were no ambulances available because they were all busy on the usual Saturday night calls - drug overdoses, fights, vehicle accidents, domestic violence, alcohol related injuries, etc.

The hospitals and ambulances were busy dealing with these normal late night/early morning weekend incidents.

It had nothing to do with them treating COVID patients.

A similar thing happened to my father back in 2019, before COVID hit - he was left laying on the bathroom floor for almost 3 hours waiting for an ambulance to attend (on a Saturday evening).

On a side note, my mother had another heart attack on the same day as the 80 year old woman we're discussing, but 12 hours later - at 2.30 Sunday afternoon.

Thankfully, her ambulance arrived within 8 or 9 minutes and she's fine now.

My sincere condolences go out to the family of the poor woman who died though. Terribly tragic.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:21am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:00am:

Ambulance wait times have little to do with covid as only the most severe covid cases require an ambulance.

True.

But, many people call an ambulance for things that are not emergencies.

That's why we've seen "Save 000 for emergencies" advertising here in WA (and probably the rest of Australia) lately.

I read somewhere a while back that some people were even calling 000 for an ambulance to take them to get tested for Covid at State run PCR testing locations.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:21am

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Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:21am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:31am

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:00am:

Ambulance wait times have little to do with covid as only the most severe covid cases require an ambulance.

Calling an ambulance is not dispatching an ambulance.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:37am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Calling an ambulance is not dispatching an ambulance.

True again.

But, I suppose it all boils down to what the person calling for an ambulance says to the operator who takes the call.

If it sounds like a life threatening situation then I'm sure the operator would need to 'err on the side of caution' and dispatch an ambulance.

Regardless of whether or not an ambulance is actually sent these people are taking up precious time which may result in someone who really does need an ambulance not being able to call for one and get through to a dispatch operator as quickly as possible.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:55am

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:37am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

Calling an ambulance is not dispatching an ambulance.

If WA is similar to other emergency services around the (first) world, the operators are very discerning about dispatching an ambulance. They are trained to be.

I'd imagine operators would receive 'negative feedback' from the ambulance service if they dispatched an ambulance over a stubbed toe.

Whatever's going on in WA, I'd say it's not about undiscerning operators.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 11:53am

Speaking of ambulances.

I don't know about anywhere else in Perth but here in Rivervale I've been hearing a lot of sirens the past few weeks.

Day and night.

I can't tell if they're fire, police or ambulance sirens but I strongly suspect most of them are ambulances.

Some people believe Perth may end up like New York was 2 years ago with ambulance sirens non stop day and night when people were dropping like flies from Covid and I have no problem believing that at this stage.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 17^th, 2022 at 12:01pm

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Yep, I've been hearing them a lot lately too (over here on the other side of the railway line).

I just heard someone from the WA Health Department on the radio, and they said that the ambulances have been busy lately picking up people who have come off those motor scooters that seem to be all the rage.

Speaking of which, I was at Boston Brewing on the weekend and there's a scooter shop next door - some of the scooters in the window were between $6,000 and $10,000 :o :o :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 17^th, 2022 at 6:30pm

I heard today that a lot of workplaces in Perth are introducing mandatory mask-wearing policies.

I'm happy to see that a lot of people are still wearing them in the shops, and inside crowded public buildings.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:40pm

That's good to hear, Greg.

Workplaces are obviously realizing that if staff are off sick then it can cause big problems for them. I've heard that a few cafes and other similar places have had to close down at least temporarily due to staff being off sick with Covid.

They could also be worried about potential lawsuits from employees and their families.

Melbourne company sued over dad’s Covid death

(Paywalled but there's enough info there).

Apparently there's quite a few people (including solicitors) who are watching this case with interest and if it is successful it could 'open the floodgates' for similar lawsuits over Covid deaths.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:44pm

I've also heard that a lot of people here in Perth are prepared to bet that Mark McGowan will bring back mandatory masks and other restrictions next week (after the Federal election).

I'd be happy to bet on that happening as well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:48pm

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Yep, I reckon he will.

I certainly hope he does.

I'm doing the right thing - I'd like to see others doing it too.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:05pm

My elderly aunt and I have never stopped wearing masks whenever we go out (which isn't very often lately).

I'll also feel a bit better tomorrow morning when I take my aunt up to the Belmont Seniors Centre to get her hair done like I do every Wednesday (except for 2 weeks back when the hairdresser had Covid) because I've finally convinced my aunt to wear a KN95 mask instead of the surgical blue/white ones.

She tried wearing a KN95 a few weeks back but she didn't like it compared to the surgical ones. I told her if she won't wear a KN95 then I'm not taking her there tomorrow so she finally agreed (narrowly avoided an argument there... lol).

She also walks across to Belmont Forum with one of the other ladies after having their hair done to have a look around before I pick her up at 11am and it's imperative she wears a KN95 there... I keep reminding her that her GP told her a few weeks back that shopping centres are one of the most risky places for getting Covid at the moment.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:35pm

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

That's funny, coz I actually convinced my mother to wear KN95s today.

I'm going down to the chemist tomorrow morning to get her some, and I've insisted she wears them whenever she goes to Belmont Forum or Carousel.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:40pm

I have not heard any increase in ambulance services where I live (near a main road leading to Flinders Medical Centre.)

Have seen some dash cam videos of idiots on those scooters tho.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on May 17^th, 2022 at 9:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:48pm:

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Yep, I reckon he will.

I certainly hope he does.

I'm doing the right thing - I'd like to see others doing it too.

Parochials United.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on May 17^th, 2022 at 9:29pm

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:05pm:

Classic Sandy Stone.

We cringed then, we cringe now.

Diversity - dontcha love it?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 11:10pm

Carl D wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:

Actually, I really need to make a correction to that earlier post.

Some have suggested that instead of calling masks, social distancing and capacity limits at venues, etc. Covid restrictions they should really be called Covid protections.

I certainly agree.

Then there might be a chance that a lot of the idiots screaming about their "freedumb" might think twice about criticizing these Covid protections.

Maybe.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 17^th, 2022 at 11:19pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2022 at 8:40pm:

I have not heard any increase in ambulance services where I live (near a main road leading to Flinders Medical Centre.)

Have seen some dash cam videos of idiots on those scooters tho.

Shouldn't be too long before those stupid things are banned here in Australia like they already have been in quite a few places overseas.

Wouldn't be too bad if people rode them properly and obeyed the law but anyone with half a brain would have known that was never going to happen.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 18^th, 2022 at 5:25pm

Another 16,253 cases, 327 in hospital, 12 in ICU and 3 more *historic* deaths for WA today.

Good to see more and more people are 'wising up' and wearing masks when I was at Belmont Forum earlier.

Perhaps the word is slowly getting through to people that being infected with a brain shrinking, heart damaging, long Covid and who knows whatever other health issues causing bat virus isn't such a good idea after all. Especially when you can get reinfected over and over.

I'm still betting on masks and other Covid *PROTECTIONS* coming back next week after the Federal election is over.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 21^st, 2022 at 12:34am

Not Covid this time but monkeypox.

These two never miss an opportunity to get stuck into Basil Zempilas (especially Lotus).

I had to laugh when Basil replied with the black cat. ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2022 at 1:52pm

12,114 cases and 6 more *historical* deaths for WA.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1528919000012316674

Why does WA only have *historical* deaths?

Because we've had 0 deaths for the past 2 days some believe it's to try and make the deaths look better by 'saving them up' for a few days and then 'hitting us with them' all in one day.

Sounds stupid to me but we are dealing with government here. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 24^th, 2022 at 2:02pm

Come on, Mark McGowan - Federal election's over and Labor won, you can bring the mandatory masks indoors and capacity limits at venues back now.

Just leave it a few more days if you like (perhaps until the weekend or the start of next week) so it doesn't look quite so obvious that you dropped the masks and other Covid ~~restrictions~~ *protections* just for the election.

Go on... you can do it!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2022 at 10:50am

I was asking about this a few weeks ago and here's the answer:

Question marks over what to do with $200m Bullsbrook ‘Centre for National Resilience’ quarantine facility

Quote:

A Commonwealth-funded $200 million quarantine facility in Perth’s north looms as an expensive white elephant with Premier Mark McGowan admitting he is unsure what to do with the compound once construction is complete in the middle of the year.

Announced last August — well over a year into the COVID pandemic — the Bullsbrook “Centre for National Resilience” was intended to largely replace a network of CBD hotels used to quarantine returning interstate and international travellers.

What a colossal waste of 200 million dollars - just like Annastacia's "Wellcamp" facility in Queensland.

Quote:

What to do with it, that is the $64 million question,” he said.

“Maybe there is some use we can put it to outside of a pandemic or a disaster (but we haven’t quite landed on what that is yet.

“We’re seeking feedback from people as to what it can be used for.”

“It’s not in the heart of the city. So you know, in terms of backpackers or something, it can’t really be used for that.

“It’s out in Bullsbrook near RAAF Base Pearce so we’re trying to think what else can be done with it.

Oh, gee... think hard, Mark. ::)

Here, I'll give you a one word clue - MONKEYPOX.

But, by the time this thing is completed Monkeypox will probably be spreading throughout the WA population if it isn't already.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 25^th, 2022 at 11:52am

Carl D wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

I was asking about this a few weeks ago and here's the answer:

Question marks over what to do with $200m Bullsbrook ‘Centre for National Resilience’ quarantine facility

Quote:

What a colossal waste of 200 million dollars - just like Annastacia's "Wellcamp" facility in Queensland.

[quote]What to do with it, that is the $64 million question,” he said.

“Maybe there is some use we can put it to outside of a pandemic or a disaster (but we haven’t quite landed on what that is yet.

“We’re seeking feedback from people as to what it can be used for.”

“It’s not in the heart of the city. So you know, in terms of backpackers or something, it can’t really be used for that.

“It’s out in Bullsbrook near RAAF Base Pearce so we’re trying to think what else can be done with it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2022 at 12:01pm

Bullsbrook is about 42km from the Perth CBD.

Should send all of the pollies there (of both major parties), lock them up and throw away the key.

12,419 new cases today and 2 more *historic* deaths.

https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1529282057712521216

STILL not allowing replies, I see. That's OK, Mark - we all know you stuffed up badly just like the other States did. Worst part is - most of us knew this would happen.

Oh, I noticed that idiot Basil Zempilas got a bit excited yesterday about Monday's Covid cases.

https://twitter.com/BasilZempilas/status/1528855597663535104

Now they're trending up again... got anything to say now, Basil? ::)

And, not surprisingly, no word from The West Australian about cases (and deaths) trending up again.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:38am

This is the sort of garbage I would expect from the Murdoch/Stokes gutter media but certainly not from the ABC.

Modelling predicts Western Australia's COVID-19 cases will keep falling as state enters home stretch of Omicron outbreak

"Home stretch"? Freaking unbelievable. Especially with winter here and the flu 'on the loose' once again after a welcome 2 year respite due to Covid border closures and masks, etc.

All the "modelling" done with Covid has been completely WRONG for the past two years so why would anyone expect it to be correct now?

Might want to have a quick look at this, Mark McGowan and Co., especially Amber-Jade Sanderson, our so called Minister for Health who apparently has been more involved in hospitality and business than health in the past. Colour me surprised.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1529965612956405761

Quote:

BA.2.12.1 and BA.4/BA.5 characterized in human lung cells and an experimental model by @SystemsVirology

—All 3 Omicron subvariants have enhanced replication in lung cells compared w/ BA.2
—BA.4/5 is more pathogenic than BA.2 in animal model

And, I'm still waiting for our first monkeypox cases to be reported here in Perth. Won't be long now...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:41am

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:38am:

And, I'm still waiting for our first monkeypox cases to be reported here in Perth. Won't be long now...

Apart from taking your 92-year-old aunt shopping, do you interact with society?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:46am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

Apart from taking your 92-year-old aunt shopping, do you interact with society?

Is there a point to your question? Looks to me like you're trying to put a 'smokescreen' over the issue. Once again.

However, the answer is yes. And we're both wearing KN95 masks whenever we do and we stay as far away from the maskless lemmings as we can.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:49am

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:46am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

Apart from taking your 92-year-old aunt shopping, do you interact with society?

The point to my question is obvious. You read like an unemployed loner obsessed with his 92-year-old aunt.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 11:02am

Do you work for the government? Sure sounds like it.

The only "obsession" I have with my aunt is being obsessed with trying to make sure she isn't hospitalised or killed by a virus which should never have been allowed to enter Australia and spread.

And, I am not unemployed. I am retired.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 11:02am

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Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 11:03am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 11:07am

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 11:02am:

A retired loner obsessed with his 92-year-old aunt.

Meanwhile, in your society, there are integrated people with real families to support, many with businesses that they have built up over decades, at risk of being destroyed so, as you'd have it, a retired loner obsessed with his 92-year-old aunt can be guaranteed safety.

Your aunt will die someday, as we all will; then you'll need to find someone else to obsess over.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 1:33pm

You know, it's a pity you don't work somewhere high up in the WA government because if you did maybe you could have given us all an insight into what the 'endgame' is here with Covid?

Let's see, in 3 months we've gone from the best place in the world to be with 'only' 9 Covid deaths in 2 years (caused by interstate and international travellers, of course) with no Covid, no masks or other ~~restrictions~~ protections, few lockdowns and local businesses thriving to one of the worst now with nearly 10,000 daily cases, 243 deaths - 234 of them in the past 3 months (another 7 reported today) and small businesses suffering due to staff being off sick or isolating and customers staying away because they're trying not to get infected.

And, the flu season is also about to kick off big time this year.

Mark McGowan's latest "thought bubble" (while he's not trying to work out what to do with the 200 million dollar white elephant quarantine facility in Bullsbrook) is that we should get this Covid 'wave' out of the way before winter sets in.

Where is he getting this "advice" from? Doesn't he know people can be reinfected with Covid after 12 weeks even if they're fully vaccinated? I've seen stories of people being reinfected after 8 or even 6 weeks WITH THE SAME VARIANT.

And... new, even more vaccine evading variants are on their way (if they're not here already).

This probably applies to all politicians but if you've ever wondered why you only see the top half of McGowan during his press conferences I'm sure if you removed the podium you'd see Murdoch/Stokes/Joyce/Hrdlicka/"Skroo" Turner and probably a few others taking their turns with their hands up the back of his shirt operating him like the big business puppet he is.

Oh...

Quote:

there are integrated people with real families to support, many with businesses that they have built up over decades

And a lot of these businesses are now being destroyed by Covid with staff and customers being sick and many customers now forced to go into self imposed lockdowns to try and avoid Covid.

But, I'm sure that's OK with the government as they're only small businesses.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 2:50pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 1:33pm:

there are integrated people with real families to support, many with businesses that they have built up over decades

Given you have access to the living memory of someone who, being 92 (probably 93 this year?), was born on the eve of the Great Depression and after that, for a topper, she endured WW2. She would not have been free of tragedy until she was at least 16 and if she lost relatives in either or both events, maybe the grieving continued until the end of her teens.

Our society could not have sustained lockdowns indefinitely. Even in China, where the CCP thinks it can impose total lockdowns indefinitely, riots are breaking out across the country, (extremely unusual and dangerous for the Chinese people), and right on the eve of June 4th.

Global supply lines have been drastically disrupted, which threatens to bring on a food supply crisis.

You're going to need a touch of the old ANZAC spirit and stop soiling yourself.

Your aunt might have some advice for you on growing a spine, as she would have done during the first 16 years of her life.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 28^th, 2022 at 6:44pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 2:50pm:

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 1:33pm:

there are integrated people with real families to support, many with businesses that they have built up over decades

Jesus!

Carl is retired and helps an aunt of his. How does that warrant the spray you gave him?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 6:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 2:50pm:

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 1:33pm:

there are integrated people with real families to support, many with businesses that they have built up over decades

Jesus!

Carl is retired and helps an aunt of his. How does that warrant the spray you gave him?

Carl is a grown man. Would it be respect if I treated him as a child?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:18pm

You want Carl to tell his aunt to bugger off?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:25pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

You want Carl to tell his aunt to bugger off?

I'd suggest Carl ask his aunt to tell him about real suffering, like economic depression and world war. At 92+ she's experienced real crises; not the tepid one we're living through.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:29pm

I heard about that from my Mum—incl the shame of some Dutch families when some joined the SS. I am sure Carl has heard that from his Mum and Aunt.

Your spray was way out of order and unwarranted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:29pm:

I heard about that from my Mum—incl the shame of some Dutch families when some joined the SS.

If you're of Dutch descent, then your family would know alot about suffering in WW2 and what the Germans did to the Dutch.

What we are going through is nothing compared to what they suffered.

We should keep that in mind to help us endure the flea-bite we're living through in comparison.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 28^th, 2022 at 8:17pm

Your attack on Carl was unwarranted and out of order.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2022 at 8:25pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

I'd suggest Carl ask his aunt to tell him about real suffering, like economic depression and world war. At 92+ she's experienced real crises; not the tepid one we're living through.

I'd like my aunt to tell some of the selfish pr*cks we see every time we go out who seem to find it a major inconvenience to do something as simple as wearing a mask during a raging pandemic to protect the elderly and vulnerable about real suffering.

She also lived in England during World War 2. Nowhere near the bombings thank goodness. She was born there, same as me and the rest of our family.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 28^th, 2022 at 8:29pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 8:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

I'd suggest Carl ask his aunt to tell him about real suffering, like economic depression and world war. At 92+ she's experienced real crises; not the tepid one we're living through.

I'd like my aunt to tell some of the selfish pr*cks we see every time we go out who seem to find it a major inconvenience to do something as smple as wearing a mask during a raging pandemic to protect the elderly and vulnerable about real suffering.

She also lived in England during World War 2. Nowhere near the bombings thank goodness. She was born there, same as me and the rest of our family.

If your family lived in England during WW2 then they'd understand real existential threat, not WA's current comparatively pissant threat.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2022 at 8:32am

Speaking of suffering...

... just imagine people being asked to make a sacrifice like this today when a lot of them can't even be bothered to wear a mask and just stay home when they're sick with something like the flu or Covid.

Eyam plague: The village of the damned

Quote:

On 1 November 1666 farm worker Abraham Morten gasped his final breath - the last of 260 people to die from bubonic plague in the remote Derbyshire village of Eyam. Their fate had been sealed four months earlier when the entire village made the remarkable decision to quarantine itself in an heroic attempt to halt the spread of the Great Plague. This is the story of the villagers who refused to run.

Most people today are too busy screaming about their rights to do whatever they want but totally ignore (or couldn't care less) about their responsibilities (to consider others).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2022 at 8:32am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2022 at 8:32am

This is for all the maskless lemmings I see daily who have swallowed the government/big business Kool-Aid about the pandemic being over.

https://twitter.com/amandalhu/status/1530304928039591937

Be sure to read all 5 tweets.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 29^th, 2022 at 10:07am

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

When do you think we should stop wearing masks?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2022 at 1:37pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 10:07am:

When do you think we should stop wearing masks?

When the pandemic is over.

Which doesn't look like happening any time soon.

Meanwhile, just to show how disconnected from reality Mark McGowan has become in the past few months:

Reconnect WA tour: Mark McGowan, Roger Cook to travel overseas to tell world State is open again

Paywalled again but I'm sure you get the idea.

Well, have a good time, Mark and Roger. I'm sure our overwhelmed hospitals will be able to cope in your absence. I suppose they will have to, eh?

Another reason why WA has dropped the masks, of course. Doesn't create a good impression for international tourists if everyone here is masked. Same as what happened with the dropping of masks in the other States... nothing to do with health... $$$$ again.

Oh, I had to laugh at this (found it when I was looking for a non-paywalled article):

https://timesverge.com/reconnect-wa-tour-mark-mcgowan-roger-cook-to-travel-overseas-to-tell-world-state-is-open-again/

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan and his deputy Roger Prepare dinner will criss-cross the globe in a world tour of not less than six nations in seven months to inform the world WA is once more open for enterprise.

Denial of responsibility! This post is auto generated.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29^th, 2022 at 1:47pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 10:07am:

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

When do you think we should stop wearing masks?

On public transport - never.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2022 at 6:41pm

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 1:37pm:

Meanwhile, just to show how disconnected from reality Mark McGowan has become in the past few months:

Reconnect WA tour: Mark McGowan, Roger Cook to travel overseas to tell world State is open again

Paywalled again but I'm sure you get the idea.

Well, have a good time, Mark and Roger. I'm sure our overwhelmed hospitals will be able to cope in your absence. I suppose they will have to, eh?

Another reason why WA has dropped the masks, of course. Doesn't create a good impression for international tourists if everyone here is masked. Same as what happened with the dropping of masks in the other States... nothing to do with health... $$$$ again.

I'm just trying to picture how ironic (not to mention funny) it would be if these two clowns caught Covid right after arriving at their overseas destinations and had to spend a few weeks in quarantine or fly straight back to Perth.

Probably not quite as ironic (and/or funny) as it would be if they caught Covid here just before boarding the flights (or on the flights) and they then spread it amongst their overseas hosts upon arrival... especially after planning to tell them how 'safe' they believe WA is now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 31^st, 2022 at 7:51pm

As Mark McGowan and Roger Cook prepare for their overseas junket in an attempt to drum up business for WA I wonder if they're sparing a thought for all of the small businesses that have gone/are going to the wall because of Covid being 'unleashed' here?

I took my aunt to her GP in North Perth this afternoon and we called into North Perth Plaza to say hello to Donna and the staff at Baci Cafe who we haven't seen for about a month and a half (we would have lunch there about once a week before Covid).

Imagine our disappointment and sadness to see that they closed 3 days ago... if we'd known we would have gone there on Saturday to say goodbye and wish them all the best. I know they were having problems with a drop off in business the last time we saw them but I thought they would be OK (I noticed the Evropa Cafe next door to them is still open for now at least).

This is on top of all the small businesses we've seen closed at places like Gosnells Railway Markets over the past few months and I'm sure there's many, many more around Perth and suburbs.

But, hey... they're only SMALL businesses, right? As long as big business (airlines, etc.) are back to making the big bucks they couldn't care less about anyone else, could they?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:17pm

Lies, lies and more lies.

https://twitter.com/ermahhgod/status/1536998971427913728/photo/1

"With WA's soft landing secured, and the peak of our Omicron outbreak behind us"

I'm sure the families of the 313 West Australians who have died from Covid in the past 3 or 4 months will be pleased to hear that.

And here comes the Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 variants just in time for winter.

Also...

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/health/monkeypox-wa-has-first-brush-with-disease-after-case-infectious-in-perth-for-four-days--c-7177283

Quote:

WA has had its first brush with a monkeypox case after a person diagnosed with the infectious disease spent four days in the community during a visit to Perth last month.

Through contact tracing, health authorities have since confirmed there have been no secondary cases and the person’s close contacts — one higher risk and four lower risk — remain well.

The case was infectious in WA for four days before they flew out to the UK where they were diagnosed three days later.

Fun times ahead... buckle up, everyone.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 15^th, 2022 at 9:46pm

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/announcements/mask-wearing-mandates-be-removed-airport-terminals

Quote:

From 12:01am, Saturday 18 June, mask wearing mandates in airport terminals in Western Australia will be lifted.

This is in line with the latest national advice (external link) from the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC).

Masks must continue to be worn on aircraft as per existing requirements, and are still encouraged to be worn in international and domestic terminals if people wish to wear one.

So.... why exactly are they being removed?

"12.01am" (and not a minute before) - more typical government BS.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 10:25am

While Mark McGowan is off doing his European Tour (a slightly smaller version of Airbus Albo's World Tour) here's what we've been left with in Perth:

https://twitter.com/EMacskasy/status/1544670690069979138

Quote:

I am sitting in the triage unit at the hospital. There are so many mothers in here holding their young children who r coughing, distressed, unwell.
Mostly respiratory issues from what I can see. It is heart rending. They r too young for covid vaccine.
If only people masked up

I'll quote some of his other posts here because they're not in a single thread:

Quote:

3.25 hrs in ED. Some have been seen. Some have walked out. Many are losing the will to live.
The hard seats do not help. Truly a torture device designed to numb the bum.
Periodically, a cleaner comes out and brushes cobwebs off the old lady in the corner.

Quote:

Hour 5. Have relocated to the concrete floor outside ED. Too many unmasked people inside the waiting area. Added bonus is the concrete floor is more comfortable than the chairs inside.

Quote:

I have found Purgatory.
Finally, the last of the 3 Geoffreys has been taken.

I fear it will be a long night.

Quote:

2.52 am. Only 6.5 hour wait in ED. I shouldn’t complain. I am sure there are many countries where this would be seen as a very short wait. Yawn!

Quote:

Still in the ED. Why is here always one idiot in every group. Security has just removed an abusive poo head who has been carrying on for the last hour. Final straw was him refusing to turn off loud vile “music”. Now If he had played Doris Day

Pretty much the same thing is happening all around Australia, not surprisingly.

And, for those who are still keeping score, WA's daily Covid cases are on the increase again, same as the rest of the country.

https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/News

Probably time to close down a few more of the remaining PCR testing places to improve the numbers.

I mean... what hope do we have when I saw a temporary desk set up in Belmont Forum yesterday near JB Hi-Fi and the 3 people manning the desk were handing out free RAT's and not one of them was wearing a mask?

Should be handing out free masks, not RAT's (which apparently are notoriously unreliable for detecting Omicron and it's numerous variants).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 10:45am

Carl D wrote on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

I mean... what hope do we have when I saw a temporary desk set up in Belmont Forum yesterday near JB Hi-Fi and the 3 people manning the desk were handing out free RAT's and not one of them was wearing a mask?

Really? ::)

I wouldn't go anywhere near Belmont Forum without a mask on.

Especially during school holidays.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 1:29pm

Wasn't very busy when I was at Belmont Forum yesterday near lunchtime even though it is school holidays.

Apart from myself and my aunt there were probably no more than about 20 other people I saw wearing masks. We didn't stay in the shopping centre long and we definitely stayed well away from the food court.

Another 6,387 cases and 8 deaths reported for WA and 60 deaths for Australia.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 2:55pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 1:29pm:

I was at Vic Park Woolworths earlier today, and there were more people wearing masks than in previous days which is good to see.

Still only about 20% though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 3:15pm

Sad news today about the death of Tricia the elephant at Perth Zoo.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-06/perth-zoo-elephant-tricia-dies-aged-65/101208816

Without taking anything away from the sadness of Tricia's passing it's interesting to see today's West Australian with Tricia making front page news plus a 2 page story inside about her and a 'centrefold' souvenir photo in the middle of the paper.

All very nice, of course. But, there isn't a single word about the ongoing Covid deaths around Australia including the 8 WA deaths reported today making 399 deaths for WA since February.

Even Mark McGowan paid tribute to Tricia but he still has nothing to say about all of the Covid deaths or even offer condolences to their families.

I believe "Rowee Rainbow" here sums things up pretty well:

https://twitter.com/ermahhgod/status/1544892413906649089

Quote:

Hey @MarkMcGowanMP
- forget the dead elephant, remember some humans

We truly are a messed up society these days.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 3:15pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 3:16pm

flip page x2.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 3:16pm

Seems there were more people wearing masks at Belmont Forum yesterday than there are at Joondalup today.

https://twitter.com/The_Aussie_Luke/status/1544925049488310272

Quote:

Just had to go to Joondalup shops - it was literally busier than I've ever seen it - school holidays

...and I only spotted two other people in masks

I've started to get a few funny looks when I'm wearing a mask while I'm out shopping at the local IGA or at the Forum.

I'm just waiting for a smart comment - I have a few choice replies rehearsed and read to go.

For example: "I believe there's still a few beds available in the hospitals but I'd rather not have to go there".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 10^th, 2022 at 10:05am

Ah, this is very interesting. Mind you, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened and I'm sure it won't be the last.

And, probably the same thing also happened in the other States.

‘Appalling’: WA govt accused of preferencing political donors

Quote:

WA’s leading corruption body has received allegations the state government gave preferential treatment to political donors during the Covid pandemic.

The claims emerged this week during an unfair dismissal hearing by the Public Service Appeal Board.

Former electorate officer for Deputy Premier Roger Cook, Sanja Spasojevic claimed she was instructed by the then Health Minister to fast track entry applications for members of the Labor Business Roundtable.

Roundtable members pay thousands of dollars for access to senior members of the government including Premier Mark McGowan.

Quote:

“All G2G applications made during the COVID-19 pandemic were assessed and dealt with by WA Police Force in accordance with the Emergency Management Act directions in force at the time,” the statement said.

Yeah, sure they were. I've heard several people claim that G2G passes were being automatically rejected during WA's border closure (except for the rich, "celebrities" and sports "stars", of course). Same as I heard they were being automatically approved when WA went from a hard to a soft border on February 5th prior to the full 'let it rip' disaster a month later.

Quote:

Ms Davies said the allegations were serious and warranted further investigation.

“If they are found to be true, it would be a huge betrayal of trust for the many families who were separated and denied entry into Western Australia under the McGowan Labor government’s G2G system,” she said.

Might explain why McGowan kept us safe for 2 years then did a complete turn around with his let it rip attitude that’s killing dozens of Western Australians weekly, hospitals and schools in crisis, etc., etc. but let his mates do whatever they asked for.

Greedy, corrupt b@stards, the lot of them. Labor and Liberal. The real tragedy is that I'm sure none of them will ever be held accountable for the Covid disaster currently engulfing Australia.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 10^th, 2022 at 10:29am

Wow, I must read this when I get The Sunday Times this morning.

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1545743326489477122

Don't tell me we're finally going to see some honesty from our West Australian/Sunday Times rags?

Hopefully, it might wake a few more people from their 'Covid slumber' and we might see a bit more mask wearing next week?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 9:43am

Well, well... wasn't that a surprise? Finally some rare, truthful reporting from our newspapers.

From yesterday's Sunday Times:

From Doctor Andrew Miller:

Closeup with the most important thing I have seen (I've highlighted it in yellow) printed in our media about Covid in a long time:

As I said yesterday, I hope many people have read this and we'll hopefully see more people wearing masks this week.

I was pleasantly surprised when I went out for a drive with my elderly aunt on Saturday afternoon (despite the rain) and we called into the Eric Street Shops in Cottesloe. After we had a look in IGA we took the lift down to the basement carpark and when the doors opened a young man (probably in his early 20's) got in after we got out and he was also wearing a high quality mask the same as we were.

We exchanged smiles and said hello as we exited the lift and he got in... it was that "knowing" smile which conveyed the message that we hadn't swallowed the "pandemic is over" Kool-Aid like almost everyone else has.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 10:56am

Another great opinion piece by Dr. Miller:

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1546274718960852993

I'm surprised our newspapers are now publishing these... have they suddenly realised that more and more people are waking up to the fact the pandemic isn't over and is actually getting worse?

Let's see how long they keep doing this for, shall we?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:23am

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 10:56am:

I'm off to get my fourth shot today.

Not sure where though.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:26am

I've just booked my 4th shot for this Thursday at our local Terry White in Kooyong Road now that I'm able to get it before I turn 65 on August 5th.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:43am

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:26am:

I've just booked my 4th shot for this Thursday at our local Terry White in Kooyong Road now that I'm able to get it before I turn 65 on August 5th.

I might just get mine from my GP.

Looks like the Perth Convention Centre clinic has closed down.

Or, I have to go to RPH later today - might see if I can just walk in there.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:59am

My GP would have been my first choice but they're not doing Covid booster vaccinations.

I did have my second AstraZeneca dose at my GP last September though (first AZ was at the now long closed Perth Domestic Airport State clinic in June last year).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 2:57pm

Had another awesome display this morning of that "Personal Responsibility" which we are now all supposed to have (which has apparently now replaced "Public Health" Australia wide)-.

Spent 10 minutes on a Transperth bus (oh, the horror!) and we were all "entertained" by the 3 maskless swearing teenagers (every second word seemed to be the F word) on the back seat with their 'boom box' blasting out rap "music" non stop.

Bus driver didn't do anything about it, of course. I thought she might have radioed Transperth Security and I was expecting them to appear in one of their patrol cars but that didn't happen either.

Masks are still mandatory on public transport here in WA, by the way.

Not sure how much more of this "Personal Responsibility" and "Community Spirit" I can take.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:07pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

I caught a bus into RPH this morning.

The two youngest passengers onboard (early 20s) had their masks over their chins - not on their mouth or nose at all.

When I got to RPH, there was a young guy in the lift (stoned) not wearing a mask at all - didn't even have one with him.

WTF? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:35pm

I long for the 'good old days' when I caught the bus to and from school in the late 60's and early 70's. Transperth was called the MTT (Metropolitan Transport Trust) back then.

I remember the prominent signs on the buses which said something like "Children must stand for adults or pay full adult fare" or words to that effect. Not "should stand" like we see today. However, I think the only ones now are the signs for the seats at the front for the elderly and people with wheelchairs and prams.

Same as school students and their concession fares being told they must stand for adults in my school days. Mind you, back then the majority of young people would give up their seats for adults regardless of whether there were signs or not.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:45pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

I went to a car show at Ascot Racecourse last year, and they had a few of those old MTT buses that we used to catch.

Was good to climb up into one again.

I'm pretty sure this was one of them:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 4:54pm

Love those old buses, Greg.

Here's one I took a picture of on January 21st. 2017.

It was at the Perth Cultural Centre just north of Perth Railway Station.

Could actually be a former Transperth bus with MTT painted on it, not too sure? Doesn't really look old enough to have been a MTT bus.

It had Speed (the Keanu Reeves/Sandra Bullock movie) posters all over it and the blackboard laying sideways in front of it says "SPEED THE MUSICAL, THE MOVIE, THE PLAY".

Can't remember much about it apart from that - I was just walking through there at the time.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 4:55pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 4:55pm

flip page again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 5:44pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 11:59am:

There's a pop-up clinic at my local Woolworths in Vic Park.

Walked straight in this afternoon and got my 4th jab.

No waiting, no appointment :)

All done (for another 6 months, I guess).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 1:52pm

The numbers are going up again.

6,880 new cases today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 3:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 1:52pm:

The numbers are going up again.

6,880 new cases today.

And 6 more deaths.

Still waiting for that "soft landing" Mark McGowan promised us. The wheels haven't even touched the runway yet by the look of things.

Noticed a few more people than usual wearing masks at Belmont Forum earlier which is good to see.

Perhaps the newspaper and TV "honest for a change Covid isn't over coverage" over the past few days has woken a few more people up?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 13^th, 2022 at 4:00pm

I was reading about the chaos at Perth Airport in the paper this morning.

Over 200 flights in and out of Perth have been cancelled (a lot of them right at the last minute) since the start of the school holidays a week and a half ago.

Apart from the ongoing issues that Qantas is having, Virgin and the other airlines are having the same problems... at least there was some honesty in the article where the airlines admitted that staff shortages due to Covid was part of the problem (a big part, I'll bet).

I was also reading about an online travel site the other day where people could post messages about their travel experiences and they were concerned that so many people were posting messages about how bad Qantas is these days so the site's moderator asked for more people to post their positive experiences to "balance things out a bit".

Someone said:

"I flew with Qantas and they lost my luggage. But, the good thing is I don't have so much washing to do now. Is this the sort of positive story they're looking for?"

;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 2:28pm

Basil Zempilas being his usual idiot self again. ::)

https://mobile.twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1547720283108192259

Quote:

BASIL ZEMPILAS: If the health authorities decide masks are absolutely necessary again — fine. But if they don’t, let’s leave the mask-wearing as a matter of individual choice.

"fine".

Yeah, right... he'll be back to whining endlessly if masks become mandatory again... backed up by the usual chorus of whingeing coffee shop owners, of course.

Quote:

Cheffing Around W.A.
@CheffingA
·
5h
Replying to
@westaustralian
Which buzz is Basil referring to? Because Perth lost its buzz years ago. Maybe more L.E.D lights will get the buzz back

Quote:

AusEng61
@AEng61
·
5h
He must be thinking the buzz of meth, Perth definitely has that.

Definitely!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:35pm

Looks like Mark McGowan is in a bit of a dilemma at the moment... latest predictions are that Foot and Mouth Disease will get into Australia and probably hit WA first.

https://thewest.com.au/news/health/experts-warn-foot-and-mouth-disease-set-to-hit-wa-first-devastate-agriculture-industry--c-7520877

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea (actually, I read it in today's West Australian but the headline tells the story).

Mark's dilemma is.... will he restrict or stop travel to and from Bali (hint from the article - he won't at this stage because of the tourism $$$) or will he risk devastating Australia's agricultural industry when FMD arrives and spreads?

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode!

Oh, the West also interviewed a few people at Perth Airport who were just leaving for Bali and they didn't even know what FMD is let alone know anything about any plans to stop it entering Australia.

Today's WA Covid report if anyone's interested:

https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Media-releases/2022/July/COVID-19-update-15-July-2022

Quiz time: Name the famous movie this accurate cartoon is based on (Basil Zempilas could probably answer it easily).

(Answer here).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:39pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Mark's dilemma is.... will he restrict or stop travel to and from Bali (hint from the article - he won't at this stage because of the tourism $$$) or will he risk devastating Australia's agricultural industry when FMD arrives and spreads?

He won't upset the Bali brigade.

(I'm the only person in Perth who has never been to Bali)

FMD is coming (with the next wave of COVID), and this won't end well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:59pm

My mother could not eat sharp cheese—tongue and cheeks would blister if she did.

This was courtesy of her school years—farm boys would roll up to school in horse drawn conveyances and bring mild f&MD with them. Enough to rob Mum of a culinary pleasure for life—she loved cheese!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 11:03am

Hmm...

COVID in WA: Mark McGowan says he’ll be wearing masks ‘as appropriate’ amid virus surge

Paywalled as usual.

That's nice, Mark. Now, if you could just convince (preferably mandate) almost everyone else to do the same that would be great.

And also define "as appropriate".

Oh, normally I would be buying The West Australian later so I could read the story but because the price has gone up from $1.70 to $2.00 from today I've decided not to bother anymore.

Only for the Monday to Friday edition at the moment. Saturday's West is still $2.90 and The Sunday Times is still $3.00.

And besides, why should I now spend $10.00 a week (Mon-Fri) for something which is really just a big Harvey Norman catalogue with a bit of a "news" paper inside it? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:33pm

Saw some people I know at The Coffee Club in Belmont Forum this morning, they had a copy of The West Australian so I borrowed it and took pictures of the story in my previous post.

So, it's still only "pleas" and "highly encouraged" which I'm sure won't make much difference but I did notice that even though it wasn't very busy at Belmont Forum it looked like more people than usual were wearing masks today which is a good sign.

Some of us were wondering where Mark McGowan had disappeared to until we've seen him in the paper today - maybe he caught Covid again on his overseas trip which wouldn't have been surprising.

Sorry about the slight 'crop' on the left side of the bottom part of the newspaper article - it was taken with my mobile phone and I was in a bit of a hurry. There was also a full page ad in the paper as per the article but I didn't get a picture of it.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:53pm

environmental catastrophe

According to estimates by Greenpeace Taiwan, during the apex of the pandemic, from early February to mid May, Taiwan produced and used roughly 1.3 billion surgical masks. Assuming each face mask weighs 4 grams, that’s 5,500 metric tonnes of general waste generated within a span of three months. To put that figure into perspective, each garbage truck is capable of transporting 5 tonnes of trash at a time, so Taiwan produced enough face masks over a three-month period to fill 1,100 garbage trucks. Furthermore, according to existing rules and regulations regarding the disposal of surgical face masks, used face masks are “unrecyclable” due to the fact that they may be contaminated and could potentially lead to indirect infection and viral transmission if they enter the recycle system.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Cool story.

Instead of 'one use and throw away' surgical masks maybe people should be using high quality and much safer K/KN95 or P2 masks like my aunt and I do.

We can get about 8 hours use from a single KN95 mask which lasts about 2 weeks seeing as we don't go out very much these days. I keep the masks in brown paper bags between uses and the bags get replaced every few days (I use them for putting small amounts of rubbish into before throwing them out).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

flip page x2.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

flip page x3 ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 2:33pm:

I’m stunned that they plea or try to encourage mask wearing…. Why is it… they were able to mandate it earlier but not now?
After all I had read and heard how stern and strict McGowan was with WA…this is a complete about face turn! Weird.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:39pm:

Carl D wrote on Jul 15^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

He won't upset the Bali brigade.

(I'm the only person in Perth who has never been to Bali)

FMD is coming (with the next wave of COVID), and this won't end well.

I’m dreading this… I reckon it’s a warning of what’s to come… they are preparing us.
How did FMD start in Bali? Was it coinciding with Aussies starting to go back to Bali again?
Back in 2001 ….I was flying back from Europe and I can’t recall if it was somewhere along the line or when I got to Sydney where we were all being questioned about whether we had been in farms or had used shoes in suitcase to walk on farmland etc. as there was an outbreak of FMD back then that grabbed headlines around the world.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:12pm

You not flipping pages enough Carl :D
Here let me help ****

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Lols on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:16pm

Geez Carl… this has to be it!
Flip again! ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 5:16pm

Sophia wrote on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

Yes, a lot of us here in WA are very disappointed with Mark McGowan for finally caving in to big business like the rest of the State Premiers.

Perhaps a bit of a clue as to why Mark did a "complete about face" was when he was on the inaugural Qantas Perth to Rome flight a few weeks ago with his new "best friend", Alan Joyce?

Was only about 6 months ago when McGowan and Joyce were at each others' throats after Joyce compared WA to North Korea over McGowan's refusal to open WA's border at that time.

And then we have Perth Lord Mayor, Basil Zempilas and his chorus of coffee shop owners who were constantly whining to have the border opened followed by the dropping of mask mandates because they "thought" mandatory masks stopped people going into the Perth CBD.

But, like everywhere else in Australia they soon found out that dropping mask mandates resulted in lots of sick staff and customers which really isn't too good for any business, not just CBD coffee shops.

Talk about a bunch of slow learners.

Oh, I just read where someone believes there could be some sort of 'pact' between Mark McGowan and Daniel Andrews to hold off on mask mandates and other Covid ~~restrictions~~ protections until after Andrews bags another term in government come November.

Would not surprise me one bit.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 18^th, 2022 at 7:31pm

Of course, the other problem is that there was obviously a 'deal' made between former PM Scott Morrison and the State Premiers that once a certain percentage of the population was vaccinated (with just 2 doses initially) the plan was then to open up and 'let it rip' and hopefully not have cases and deaths that would be any worse than a bad flu season.

Then Delta and Omicron (especially Omicron with it's numerous sub variants) came along and shot that plan to h3ll as we now can see but the Premiers were already committed to opening up and big business was determined that they were not going to tolerate any delay in opening Australia up regardless of the resulting Covid cases and deaths which we are now seeing.

Which leaves us where we are today - up sh!t (Covid) creek without a paddle.

And, this is worrying to say the least:

https://twitter.com/its_serious_now/status/1548956196430049280

Quote:

Someone in my family who is returning to live in Australia from the northern hemisphere was able to get their winter dose early based on the fact that Australia was on the list where covid is out of control.

Can't see too many tourists coming here at the moment once the word gets around.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:54pm

Hey, Marky Mark...

https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Media-releases/2022/July/COVID-19-update-20-July-2022

Quote:

WA Health is reporting a total of 7,901 new cases to 6pm last night. There are currently 37,244 active cases in Western Australia.

To 6pm last night, there were 457 people with COVID-19 in hospital, 22 in ICU. Up again from yesterday.

Sadly, today’s report includes two deaths, which were reported to WA Health yesterday – a man in his 80s and a man in his 70s.

Cases, hospitalisations and deaths still rising... are you still afraid to mandate masks in case we lose our "social licence?"

"457 people with COVID-19 in hospital, 22 in ICU."

Wasn't it the WA branch of the Australian Medical Association who said last week that 350 hospitalisations would be the "tipping point" where our hospitals would be overwhelmed and mask mandates would need to return?

What are you waiting for?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:59pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:54pm:

Hey, Marky Mark...

https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Media-releases/2022/July/COVID-19-update-20-July-2022

Quote:

For the life of me, I can't understand why people are so anti-mask.

Reistroduce the mask mandate NOW, Mark!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 3:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

For the life of me, I can't understand why people are so anti-mask.

Reistroduce the mask mandate NOW, Mark!

I may have mentioned this previously but it's amazing how if you go to places like Japan or Asia and you don't wear a mask in public you'll get dirty looks from everyone.

Here, it's the other way around and that needs to change.

Wish I could get a shirt made up with this picture on it, I'd be wearing it every day.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 4:09pm

Nice :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 28^th, 2022 at 11:29pm

Oh, dear...

WA Health Department stuck with 2.25 million ineffective rapid antigen tests

Quote:

The WA Health Department is stuck with more than two million COVID rapid antigen tests that have been withdrawn from sale in Australia.

It comes after the Therapeutic Goods Administration launched a review into the effectiveness of RATs in detecting the newer variants of COVID-19.

Perhaps it might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks instead of dodgy RAT's because I've heard that even the ones that are still approved are only about 60% effective in detecting the newer Covid variants - especially Omicron and it's multitude of sub variants.

I still have 25 RAT's here that came free from the WA government a few months back - 15 nasal swab type and 10 saliva type and I haven't used any of them so far.

Maybe I should sell them for $10 each and make myself a nice $250? 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:32am

Carl D wrote on Jul 28^th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

Oh, dear...

WA Health Department stuck with 2.25 million ineffective rapid antigen tests

Quote:

m

might as well

the main purpose of RAT tests now is to make profits and kickbacks for the makers of RAT tests.
when 2/3 australians have now been shown to be positive for antigens to the actual virus (ie they have had covid) , why bother testing.

what does it prove?
how is it altering policy?
just a waste of money

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:36am

same goes for masks carl.

what are you achieving?

if we arent going to do a complete and utter brutal lockdown (and we arent) then at what point will you and gweggy accept that covid is now just a part of life.

we have no treatment for alzhiemers and we have more people suffering for years with that (not just a week with a sniffle).

why not put the money from masks and rat tests ( a futile nonsense) into alzhiemers research.

we dont because we just accept alzheimers and we dont have daily updates on alzhiemers deaths because there is sweet FA that can be done

same applies to this respiratory virus.

unless you are advocating we all stop breathing ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:52am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:36am:

Not sure what you mean by that - I accepted it as part of life ages ago.

That doesn't mean I want to catch it though, and pass it onto my very frail, elderly mother.

I already lost my father this year - I don't want to lose my mother too.

So, I'll keep wearing a mask, maintaining social distancing, and getting vaccinated.

It takes very little effort.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:52am:

Well said, Greg. I feel exactly the same about my 92 year old aunt.

And, we're not alone:

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1552488063758376960

Quote:

Maybe I have a different view on the risks of the pandemic because I live with & help to care for my mother who, like all the elderly, has the right to be treated with a little respect by society & not just be left out with the pandemic trash.

- Doctor Andrew Miller,
President Aust Soc of Anaesthetists, AMA WA Past Pres. Columnist at The West @WestAustralian.

Unfortunately, wearing a mask and social distancing seems to take a lot of effort as far as the majority of people is concerned. I hate to imagine what real hardship would be like for them, something like living during the Great Depression or a World War, they probably wouldn't survive a month.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:37am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 6:32am:

might as well

when 2/3 australians have now been shown to be positive for antigens to the actual virus (ie they have had covid) , why bother testing.

Surely you're not one of the many people who mistakenly believe you can only get Covid once?

Because you can be reinfected over and over - even with the same Covid variant. And, while people are being endlessly reinfected more and more people are being hospitalised and dying.

And, with more and more people constantly sick that doesn't bode well for businesses and the economy as we're seeing already.

We need to try and slow and preferably stop this virus by any means possible because who knows what the next variant may be capable of? Could be a 50% fatality rate for all we know.

Many of us (myself included) once believed Covid would gradually evolve into something like the common cold but viruses are under no 'obligation' to follow that path and it doesn't look like Covid is heading that way, at least for now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:52am

Carl D wrote on Jul 28^th, 2022 at 11:29pm:

Oh, dear...

WA Health Department stuck with 2.25 million ineffective rapid antigen tests

Quote:

Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....

Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:59am

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:52am:

Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....

Ah, the intended sarcasm zoomed right over your head.

Quote:

Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?

I have bought some - several boxes of KN95 masks from our local chemist months ago. And, I'll buy some more when I need to.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 10:05am

Carl D wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 9:52am:

Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....

Ah, the intended sarcasm zoomed right over your head.

Quote:

Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?

I have bought some - several boxes of KN95 masks from our local chemist months ago. And, I'll buy some more when I need to.

I've bought plenty of boxes of those masks too.

Mum keeps a box in the back pocket of her wheelchair and hands one out to anyone who approaches her without a mask on.

I have no problem paying $10 for a box of masks that just might save my mother's life.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 29^th, 2022 at 5:19pm

The other good thing about wearing a mask when shopping, etc. is that my aunt and I have also managed to avoid the flu so far this year.

We both had our flu shots in April but, like Covid, we'd really like to avoid catching it if possible.

Last time we had the flu was in 2019, we both had it twice that year and it always hits my aunt really hard even after having the flu shot - it can take her a month to get over the cough after the runny nose, etc. stops.

Fingers crossed we can keep from getting it - the last 2 years were great with almost no flu (and Covid) around due to border closures and other Covid protections.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2022 at 2:33pm

Went up to Belmont Forum this morning.

I've devised a new game to amuse myself while I'm out shopping these days, it's called Spot The Mask.

Very easy to play - just look around and count how many masks you can see. Bonus points if you spot someone with a high quality K/KN95/P2 mask instead of the "baggy blues".

Here's 3 pictures I took while I was there to give everyone an example of how difficult this game is (this game has also become a lot harder since governments "strongly recommended" masks be worn in crowded indoor places).

I'm sensing a business opportunity here - perhaps I could market this along the lines of Where's Wally?/Where's Waldo?

Might start with a Where's The Mask? website and if it becomes popular maybe I could launch a series of books.

Don't forget - I thought of it first. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2022 at 12:25am

Well done, Mark McGowan. You idiot.

On a day where WA has recorded 13 deaths you announce that masks will no longer be compulsory on public transport from next Friday.

And with that... our last remaining Covid protections are gone.

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan said the move was possible because of WA's "soft" COVID landing, and was based on the latest public health advice.

Soft COVID landing, my @ss. Try telling that to the families of the 594 people who have been killed by Covid since WA's border opened 6 months ago. Up until then WA had 9 Covid deaths in 2 years (and we wouldn't even have had those 9 deaths if the borders had been closed properly).

Public health advice? OK then - let's see it. More like business advice as usual, I'll bet.

Try telling the truth for once, I know it must be hard - just like it is for all politicians but at least try.

Quote:

WA Transport Minister Rita Saffioti said easing the mask mandate on pubic transport was a sensible way forward, but people could still wear masks if they chose to.

Quote:

"Members of the community who want to continue to wear masks, of course they can, and they should if they feel they want to," she said.

"Just as when you are going to the shops and some people are wearing masks and some people who don't … it's very much going to be a community choice.

Stop it, Rita - my sides are aching from laughter... you're talking about that "Personal Responsibility" again. ;D

I feel like sending her an email about the "personal responsibilty" I witnessed on a Transperth bus today with 3 clowns chatting away... 2 had their 'baggy blue' masks under their chins and the third wasn't wearing a mask at all.

But I guess the government needed to find a sure way to infect those sneaky oldies and other vulnerable members of the community who have managed to avoid Covid so far but have to use public transport to get where they need to go... you know... places like doctors and hospitals.

Is this something Mark agreed to at the 'Secret Squirrel' National Cabinet meeting that's just been held?

Hope Mark's got something planned for when he's finished in politics (which will be the next WA State election - that's almost guaranteed).

Just wondering which one is Mark in this leaked picture of the latest 'Secret Squirrel' meeting?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2022 at 7:26am

And...

Quote:

Mr McGowan said masks were still encouraged in crowded indoor settings where it was difficult to physically distance.

He said he hoped the removal of the mask mandate would have a positive flow-on effect.

"We hope [it] will mean more people get back on our buses and trains and use public transport to get to and from work and other places," he said.

You should choose your words a little more carefully Mark (or get your script writer to double check what they've written) because that could be very easily seen as an admission that this decision isn't about health at all but about $$$ (as usual).

But, anyone with half a brain already knows that.

Oh, and it's interesting to see that you consider criminals a high risk group but not pensioners and other vulnerable people using public transport.

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2022/09/Public-health-measures-eased-as-WA-continues-COVID-19-transition.aspx

Quote:

Mask wearing still required in high-risk settings such as hospitals, prisons, aged and disability care facilities, with masks still encouraged for crowded indoor settings

Hopefully we'll be seeing you and your buddies in prison one day in the not too distant future (and don't forget to take your masks).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Xavier on Sep 3^rd, 2022 at 8:02am

I still wear a mask when amongst high density areas of people like Supermarkets.
I like how it makes un-masked people look uncomfortable.
That's right you dirty disease spreading primitives - lower your gaze. ;D
Love wearing my mask into a Bank. :D

But its true. They are all filthy disease spreaders. They don't even use the hand sanitisers or cloths anymore.
Like 100 years ago - another Pandemic just swept under the rug to be forgotten.

Ironically, they're predicting more Viruses to emerge these coming years. That's from the Scientists. At least three Prophesisers from the past have predicted a number of at least 5 major Viruses to kill millions in this decade.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2022 at 8:39am

Hey, Jas.

Have you heard of "zombie ants"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis

Quote:

Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, commonly known as zombie-ant fungus, is an insect-pathogenic fungus, discovered by the British naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace in 1859, and currently found predominantly in tropical forest ecosystems.

O. unilateralis infects ants of the tribe Camponotini, with the full pathogenesis being characterized by alteration of the behavioral patterns of the infected ant. Infected hosts leave their canopy nests and foraging trails for the forest floor, an area with a temperature and humidity suitable for fungal growth; they then use their mandibles to attach themselves to a major vein on the underside of a leaf, where the host remains after its eventual death.

The process leading to mortality takes 4–10 days, and includes a reproductive stage where fruiting bodies grow from the ant's head, rupturing to release the fungus's spores.

A lot of people are wondering if a similar thing is happening with the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus.

Covid can and does affect the brain and perhaps it is manipulating the actions of the infected to make them 'go on a mission' to infect as many others as they can?

I know Mark McGowan and quite a few other pollies and so called medical experts have had Covid so the idea doesn't seem to be too far fetched. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 11^th, 2022 at 11:52am

Well, after the public transport mask mandates were removed here in WA on Friday I've noticed hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore.

Sat at the bus stop in Wright Street outside Belmont Forum for about 20 minutes on Friday morning (in my KN95 mask, of course) and watched about 5 or 6 buses go past and stop for passengers.

I must have seen about 3 or 4 people with masks on while I was watching.

The bus drivers weren't wearing masks - no real surprise there.

Saw about the same when I walked to the Kooyong Road shops and back home yesterday - 2 or 3 people wearing masks on the 3 or 4 buses I saw. And, surprisingly, I actually saw one of the drivers wearing a mask!!

I thought for a minute that it might have been 2 bus drivers wearing masks but it turned out one of them just had a long, dark beard.

Now I'm just waiting for the "You do you" signs to appear on our public transport. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 2:10pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

I caught a bus into the office this morning and was pleasantly surprised.

Most passengers were wearing masks, and many of the passengers waiting at bus stops and at the Vic Park transfer station were wearing them too.

I also noticed that the police have moved on the crazy anti-vaxxers from outside Government House (out of respect for Lizzie).

They're doing their demented silent protest at the kangaroo statues next to Council House now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 3:06pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

jeez carl, youre an outlier.

you are outside the overton window.

What is the Overton window?
Definition and explanation
The Overton window of political possibility is the range of ideas the public is willing to consider and accept.

In the United States, the idea of different races mixing in public or women’s suffrage were once considered fringe, extreme policies. That they’re now deemed common sense, reflects progress in shifting the Overton window.

A politician seeking to maximise their chances of reelection should determine where the Overton window for key policy issues is, via public opinion polls and other means, so they can successfully campaign on those ideas.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 5:38pm

This full page ad was in today's The West Australian.

"We need to protect WA".

Yeah, OK... but we also needed to protect WA from Covid (and we did for 2 years) but the WA government finally caved in and gave up just like the rest of Australia.

I'm sure the same thing is going to happen with FMD before too much longer.

Bit too much of an ask there, I reckon... 4 things are in that ad where the WA government is asking for "personal responsibility" from the population. And we've seen how well that worked with Covid, didn't we?

I've fixed it for them in the right hand image.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 5:39pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 3:06pm:

Thank you, Professor aquascoot.

You post has been duly noted, printed out and filed away in the small, round filing cabinet under my desk which is emptied daily (if I were in an office the janitor would probably do it for me).

The same place where Sir Nail's posts usually end up.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 5:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 2:10pm:

Still not too many wearing masks on the buses I saw when I was walking to Belmont Forum and back this morning. The 935, 998, 999 and 288 routes.

It's great that you've seen quite a few though but it'll be interesting to see how many are still wearing them in a week or two.

A lot of people may not be aware yet that masks are no longer mandatory on public transport, I noticed the same thing earlier this year when masks were no longer mandatory in shops - the first day the majority of people still wore them and the number gradually dropped off after that.

Oh, hopefully the anti vaxxer nutters will be rained on very soon... I'm looking out my bedroom window and it doesn't look like it will be too much longer before it pours down. Hope they've had their flu shots. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 6:53pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 5:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 3:06pm:

sorry carl.

nail despite his passion holds a view most people do not agree with.

by your own admission YOU hold a view most people do not agree with.

you have gone as far down the rabbit hole of safetyism as nail has gone down the rabbithole of anti-vax.

the mainstream and our political leaders of all persuasions have come round to aquascoots thinking on covid.

they have filed your posts in the waste paper basket

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 15^th, 2022 at 5:40pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2022 at 6:53pm:

the mainstream and our political leaders of all persuasions have come round to aquascoots thinking on covid.

Perhaps they all should read this? The male members definitely should:

https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1569864021897265152

Quote:

Jess 🌺
@MeetJess
Quick 🧵 for the men out there.. or for the men in your lives… more specifically those who think COVID is “just a flu” and masks are not necessary anymore.
I call this thread #dontlookdown

Then we might see how much they've come round to aquascoot's "thinking" on covid.

:o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 20^th, 2022 at 10:02pm

Hey, Marky Mark... what are you going to do with this white elephant?

Bullsbrook COVID quarantine facility: Build complete but skilled worker housing ruled out, Mark McGowan says

Quote:

Construction of WA’s quarantine centre has finally been completed at a cost of about $400 million — but it still doesn’t have a use, with its isolated location scuppering skilled worker accommodation potential and Commonwealth detention suggestions sure to anger locals.

The Federal Finance Department, which oversaw the building of the National Centre for Resilience near the RAAF Base Pearce in Bullsbrook on Perth’s northeastern fringe, confirmed the price tag and the issue of certificates of occupancy on August 31.

Was bad enough when it was supposed to have cost 200 million but it has ended up costing twice as much - 400 million. And now there will be the ongoing "maintenance fees" to add to it.

Would have been great if this had been ready 12 months ago - we might not be in the Covid mess we're in at now if it had been although I'm sure some incompetent clown would have ensured Covid got loose here anyway.

Quote:

The State asked business groups in July about a proposal to use it for short-term accommodation for interstate and overseas workers, particularly from industries hardest hit by the labour shortage.

But on Tuesday, Premier Mark McGowan confirmed the facility had been found to be unsuitable for these uses mainly due to its location, a lack of surrounding services and amenities, and constraints around the design based on short stay quarantine.

Actually, it's probably because interstate and overseas workers (and tourists) are not exactly flooding into WA right now and who can blame them with Covid sickness and death everywhere.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Idiots.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 5:35am

Hi Carl

When people in authority go on and on and on about something
It develops the tone of a song that was played on the radio too much
Eventually the population tune it out and have a visceral reaction of yuck when they hear the message

The vast majority of the population react to kovid in such a way
Like that pop song that used to enjoy listening to
Now when it comes on they just go
Change the channel I don't Vibe with that music anymore

The DJs at the state public health units
Really did everyone a disservice
By overcooking the message

Predictably everyone is turned out
Except maybe you and Greg who appeared to be hardcore fans

I suppose that's good for you

You and Greg can have front row seats at the covert concert
Unfortunately you won't have that awesome Vibe of a mass audience
It's probably just going to be the two of you

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 5:30am

Politicians:

"From now on we trust everyone to use personal responsibility and assess their own risk in dealing with Covid"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmFcLpayks

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 3:15pm

Time for another exciting episode of "Spot The Mask".

Taken by me in Belmont Forum just before noon today. I was wearing my usual KN95 mask, of course.

(Hint: there's only ONE person wearing a mask that I could see).

This 'game' has really turned into a Where's Wally/Waldo? of mask wearing (and personal responsibility).

::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 3:26pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 5:30am:

Politicians:

"From now on we trust everyone to use personal responsibility and assess their own risk in dealing with Covid"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmFcLpayks

awesome advice

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 5:26pm

I should have taken another picture when I was up at Belmont Forum again today.

Twice as many people, half as many masks to be seen.

And, seeing as I didn't see many masks yesterday, for a while there I thought I was the only one in the shopping centre wearing a mask.

Saw a few more maskless elderly shoppers sanitising their hands and shopping trolley handles before going into Coles and Woolies. And, the Woolies staff are still wearing their "Covid Safe" green vests with "Please stay 1.5 metres apart" with an image of a shopping trolley to demonstrate the distance of 1.5 metres on the back.

And, the checkouts still have those pointless perspex shields between the customers and staff.

At least the "Please Stand Here" 1.5 metre distancing floor stickers appear to be gone at Woolies - don't know if they've been pulled off or they're just worn out. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:52am

Not only are governments trying to kill or maim us with Covid but here in Perth they're also trying their hardest to smother us with smoke as well.

WA weather: Smoke alert issued for Pickering Brook, Kalamunda and Perth CBD

Quote:

A thick blanket of smoke has covered Perth on Sunday afternoon, causing low visibility and air quality across the City.

Prescribed burns carried out by the Department of Biodiversity, Conservation and Attractions prompted a smoke alert to be issued for Pickering Brook, Kalamunda and adjoining eastern areas of the Swan Coastal Plain through to the Perth CBD.

That's actually the second or third day in a row but Sunday was the worst.

Hey, Marky Mark (McGowan) - not much point trying to attract overseas tourists to Perth to see the beautiful, clear sunny weather from Kings Park if all they're going to see is a city and suburbs smothered in choking smoke.

"Department of Biodiversity, Conservation and Attractions".

Not going to attract too many tourists if they keep this up.

Hint to the government morons: don't burn off unless there's a west/southwesterly wind blowing so the smoke is blown away from the Perth metropolitan area (we've had east/southeasterly winds the past few days).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 8:41am

Carl D wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 5:26pm:

And, the checkouts still have those pointless perspex shields between the customers and staff.

Those are permanent now.

For security.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:23pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:23pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:23pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 3:24pm

I was up at Belmont Forum earlier and I see Woolworths have now removed all of the 1.5 metre distancing stickers from the floor where you line up for the checkouts and from both ends of all of the shopping aisles (except one which they must have forgotten about).

Still a few staff here and there with the 1.5 metre "Covid Safe" message on the back of their work vests but that was about it.

Didn't go to Coles but I'm sure it was the same there.

This probably happened after Saint Anthony of Public Housing and his medical advice sidekick, Paul "Reaper" Kelly CMO pretty much announced on Friday that the pandemic is over (even though it isn't).

There's another must read opinion piece from Doctor Andrew Miller in today's West Australian.

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1576723001873420288/photo/1

One can only hope that a lot of people read this and take notice but, sadly, I don't believe they will.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 3:24pm

All aboard the COVID Express!

https://twitter.com/AlboMP/status/1578972618031783936

No wonder Mark McGowan removed the mask mandate from public transport a few weeks back.

And... does Anthony Albanese use his phone for anything else besides taking selfies?

(Asking for millions of Australians). ::)

Oh, and speaking of Albanese...

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1578981998055796736

Quote:

@latingle
there’s a rumour in medical circles @AlboMP
uses @enovidTG
- an expensive nasal spray claimed to prevent COVID infection

This product has not been approved by TGA, nor is it available in Australia

How do ordinary folks pay for “personal responsibility” like this?

If it's true I'm sure a lot of Australians would like to know the answer to that one too (and I'm also sure it wouldn't be just the PM with access to it).

From last February:

What a hypocrite!!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 11:20pm

These would actually be considered quite funny if it wasn't for the blatant hypocrisy now on display from Albanese.

And the thousands of Covid deaths since the Federal election in May, of course.

Deaths which don't look like stopping any time soon.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 5:16am

hi carl.

covid is like pet rocks , safari suits, perms, pokemons, yo yo's.

just a fad.

it trended for a couple of years and had a good run but its out of fashion.

time to move on.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 7:57am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 5:16am:

hi carl.

covid is like pet rocks , safari suits, perms, pokemons, yo yo's.

just a fad.

it trended for a couple of years and had a good run but its out of fashion.

time to move on.

Tell that to the families of the hundreds who are still dying here in Australia every week and the thousands still dying worldwide. Not to mention those currently and about to be inflicted with Long Covid.

Europe’s Emerging Covid-19 Wave Reminds Us That The Pandemic Isn’t Over ’Til It’s Over

Quote:

“The pandemic is over,” President Biden said in a September interview on 60 Minutes,. For all intents and purposes, life in the U.S. and other parts of the world has resumed as it was before Covid-19. But just because things appear normal doesn’t mean we’re out of the woods.

Quote:

Optimism is a good thing, unless it’s a stubborn way to avoid reality. In reality, the pandemic is far from over.

While for most people the fear factor is gone, that doesn’t undo the fact that daily Covid-19 related deaths in the U.S. have remained stuck between 400 and 500 for months, or that long Covid is affecting millions to one degree or another. Vaccinations have helped to bring down disease severity and deaths considerably. But, the vaccines’ ability to curb transmission is limited at best. And so, in light of there being few if any mitigation measures set up, community transmission has stayed perilously high.

Quote:

Invariably viruses mutate over time. But, the more infections there are the greater the likelihood of mutations and emerging sub-variants (as well as entirely new variants) that have immune-evasive properties, whether against vaccine- or naturally acquired immunity.

Unless Australia is somehow magically immune to what happens with Covid in the rest of the world (hint: we're not) then the same thing is about to happen here in the next few months.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:19am

Carl

It's highly likely that president Biden yourself and myself will not be around in 50 years

Could you please shoot through an email to president Biden
Telling him to pass an executive order

Outlawing death

It is unacceptable in the twenty-first century
For people to still be dying

Immortality is your birthright

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 1:09pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 9^th, 2022 at 11:20pm:

And there's plenty more where they came from.

Saint Anthony of Public Housing's instant rust proof aluminium halo seems to be slipping a bit lately...

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:13pm

Saw the most unusual thing at Belmont Forum this morning.

There were still only about 1 in 50 people wearing a mask but I saw this lady (she must have been in her 60's or 70's) and she was wearing a face shield which, of course, is completely open at the bottom.

But, she wasn't wearing a mask. If she thinks the face shield alone was protecting her from Covid or any other airborne virus she will eventually be in for an unpleasant surprise.

Here's a picture of the type of face shield I'm talking about. I wasn't quick enough to pull my phone out of the bag I was carrying to take a picture of her.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:33am

Took a trip into Perth City for the first time in months yesterday for a dentist appointment.

The staff were all wearing masks (only surgical "baggy blues") but there didn't seem to be any requirement for patients to be wearing them while in the waiting area. I thought masks were still required in healthcare settings? They're still required in optometrists for now.

Anyway, I kept my KN95 mask on the whole time (except while my teeth were being cleaned and checked, of course).

I walked down to Perth City from Rivervale - took about an hour and three quarters - and as soon as I got close and started to see more people I immediately put my mask on.

At one stage there it looked like I was the only person in St. Georges Terrace wearing a mask.

I would have walked back home again if I'd had the time but I caught the bus instead - first time I've used public transport since the mask mandate was lifted about a month back.

I was the only person on the bus wearing a mask, fortunately there weren't too many people on the bus from the time I got on until the time I got off.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 7:13pm

"No one could have foreseen this".

Thousands trapped on Coral Princess cruise ship off WA coast after virus outbreak

Quote:

About 1900 people on board a cruise ship off the coast of Western Australia could be left stranded for days after a COVID-19 outbreak.

Almost 2000 passengers could be forced to isolate for up to five days on-board the first large cruise ship to enter WA waters since the new cruise protocols came into effect, following the height of the pandemic.

The Coral Princess departed Sydney on October 11 and docked in Broome on Monday morning.

It is understood there are up to 100 confirmed cases of COVID-19 on the ship.

Wonder if this will be front page news in tomorrow's The West Australian?

My guess is it won't even get a mention.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 8:48pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

"No one could have foreseen this".

Thousands trapped on Coral Princess cruise ship off WA coast after virus outbreak

Quote:

Wonder if this will be front page news in tomorrow's The West Australian?

My guess is it won't even get a mention.

;D

Who would have thought? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 9:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 24^th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

Who would have thought? ::)

I had to double check the date on this story before I posted about it - at first I thought it might have been from early 2020.

Edit: From March, 2020 - The Late Show with Stephen Colbert:

Coming To A Port Near You: The Bug Boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zImyHE_dIgs&t=2s

;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 8:20am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 8:20am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 8:21am

I'm fairly certain we're nowhere near "peak stupid"' with this pandemic.

https://twitter.com/RageSheen/status/1584693312769822721

Quote:

I hadn't realised at first that the infected passengers and crew are just shut in their cabins, while the rest of the cruise carries on, including disembarking in multiple destinations. There is no peak stupid.

Quote:

ponderous
@pondero60943260
·
32m
Replying to
@pondero60943260

@RageSheen
and
@ABCaustralia
Apparently 20k visitors are meant to go through Perth [according to Mum] and read else where 2 to 3 more ships on their way to Broome end of month and into Nov.

What could possibly go wrong? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 8:21am

Now they have to give cruises away.

https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1584406537896087553

Quote:

Sometimes it pays to take up the worst seat on the plane. An extra special @VirginAustralia
flight has taken off from Melbourne - every middle seat passenger was surprised with a free cruise.

lol... and I'm sure they will be surprised again when they get their free Covid infection with their free cruise.

That's if they haven't already got it from the flight - jammed in like sardines and not a mask in sight, of course.

If they're unlucky enough they might get 2 Covid infections for the price of 1.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 5:31pm

"A lot has changed". Yeah, sure it has. ::)

‘A lot has changed’: Covid-19 infected cruise ship sails on down WA coast

Quote:

Western Australia’s tourism minister has played down fears about a Covid-19 outbreak on-board the Coral Princess cruise ship, saying there is no “unnecessary risk” to people onshore.

It is understood up to 100 people among the 2000 on-board may be infected with the virus as the vessel makes its way down the coast from Broome to Geraldton. It departed Sydney on October 11.

“I don’t believe it represents an unnecessary risk to people onshore and we will obviously benefit from having them come to WA to spend their tourism dollars,” Mr Cook told reporters on Tuesday.

Quote:

“So, we know that people who come off the ship to spend their dollars in the cafes, in the pubs, in the shops of the communities in which they visit — they don’t represent a danger to the community.”

And there we have it (once again) - $$$ more important than peoples' health and lives. What a surprise (not!).

Quote:

The vessel is expected to dock in Geraldton on Thursday.

It will then continue on to Fremantle, Busselton and Albany before returning to Sydney next month.

The entire ship will probably be infested with Covid before then with everyone aboard infected. I'm sure this will not end well.

Meanwhile... not to be outdone, New Zealand is also joining in the "fun" of the Covid Cruising Club.

Covid-19 cases on one of first cruise ships to return to New Zealand

Quote:

Covid-19 cases have been confirmed on one of the first cruise ships to travel around New Zealand in more than two years.

Ovation of the Seas sailed in to Napier on Monday from Tahiti.

It went on to Wellington, arriving on Tuesday morning, and from there will go to Picton, then Sydney.

The cruise liner carries almost 5000 passengers and 1300 crew.

In a statement, National Public Health Service medical officer of health in Hawke's Bay Bridget Wilson said authorities had been told about the Covid-19 cases and were confident requirements were being followed.

Those requirements appear to be "lock the infected passengers in their cabins with no outside air so the virus can gradually spread though the ventilation system/ducting for the entire ship".

Hope everyone aboard both of these plague ships has some pretty good travel (and health) insurance.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 5:50pm

More...

Local governments say more clarity needed on COVID-19 aboard cruise ship to dock in Geraldton, Busselton

Quote:

Regional local governments say they have been left in the dark about how the outbreak of COVID-19 on board a cruise ship will affect its arrival in their communities.

The Coral Princess confirmed a number of its 2,000 passengers tested positive to the virus at the weekend.

Sick guests will isolate in their cabins for five days, but those who return negative tests can continue to access ship facilities and can disembark at destinations.

After all of the efforts made by Mark McGowan and the WA Government over the past 2 years to keep vulnerable remote communities safe from Covid it doesn't look like they will be safe for too much longer.

But... hey... just think of all those tourist $$$$. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:11pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

More...

Local governments say more clarity needed on COVID-19 aboard cruise ship to dock in Geraldton, Busselton

Quote:

exactly, without tourism dollars there would be no money for public health.
well done mark on getting your priorities right

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 7:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:11pm:

exactly, without tourism dollars there would be no money for public health.
well done mark on getting your priorities right

One would think that here in WA we'd be getting enough money from mining so we wouldn't need tourism dollars.

But, mining, tourism or whatever - there still isn't enough money for public health in WA or the rest of Australia.

And besides - there's no such thing as public health anymore in Australia (and most Western countries), it's now been replaced by that awesome "personal responsibilty" or "You do you". ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 7:40pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 7:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:11pm:

exactly, without tourism dollars there would be no money for public health.
well done mark on getting your priorities right

we'll know we have reached personal responsibility when they refuse to admit obese patients, smokers, drinkers and drug takers.
just ban those people from health care til they start to show some personal responsibility and you'll have spare beds in every hospital and incentive for people to take better care of themselves.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:32pm

I wonder what could have caused this?

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1585036236443590663

Quote:

Pilbara fast-food restaurants have been hit hard by worker shortages, with owners forced to slash opening hours and even dine-in services.

Paywalled as usual (when you click the link in the tweet) but you get the idea.

It's certainly a mystery. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 9:26am

This seems to be going well (not).

Coral Princess docks at Fremantle amid COVID outbreak, as guests tested before disembarking

Quote:

A cruise ship with about 2,000 guests, 900 crew and a growing COVID-19 outbreak on board has arrived at Fremantle Port, becoming the first major cruise ship to visit since the beginning of the pandemic.

Quote:

The president of Carnival Australia and P&O Cruises Australia, Marguerite Fitzgerald, said the cases were limited and were being managed well, but noted there had been an increase in infections.

"Yesterday we undertook testing of all guests on board and we did see an increased number," she said.

What a surprise. ::)

Meanwhile...

COVID Cruise Ships Return Down Under With Hundreds of Infected Guests

Quote:

Cruise ships are returning to Australia, New Zealand and Tahiti amidst reports that four cruise ships (two operated by Princess Cruises and two by Royal Caribbean) are rife with COVID-19. Three of the ships have one hundred or more COVID-19 infected guests on each ship. Royal Caribbean has one ship heading to Australia with reports of around 400 infected passengers.

No one could have foreseen this, of course. ::)

Mind you, this is probably just a drop in the ocean (pun intended) compared with the tens of thousands of possibly infected people arriving in Australia every day by plane.

Wonder if our governments are going to continue using the Trump Pandemic Playbook (stop testing and no more Covid cases) for much longer?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 3:19pm

Oh, dear.

Just in time for the next big Covid wave featuring new and improved (at evading vaccines and antivirals) variants.

Mark McGowan announces November 4 end to WA’s virus state of emergency

Quote:

Premier Mark McGowan has announced WA’s COVID state of emergency will end on November 4 — 963 days after the declaration was first made.

WA’s rolling state of emergency has been renewed every fortnight since it was first declared on March 16, 2020.

The decision marks a major milestone in WA’s journey through the pandemic, with Mr McGowan saying the Government was confident the virus could now be safely managed in the community.

lol... yeah, right. Don't tell me - time for more of that "personal responsibility" we've seen working so well over the past 6 months or so. ::)

Quote:

Instead, Mr McGowan said COVID would now be treated the same as any other respiratory condition

Except that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) isn't the same as any other respiratory condition. Never has been, never will be. IT'S NOT THE FLU.

Quote:

with West Australians expected to stay away from work or social events only while ill.

I'm sure they will. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm starting to believe this virus really does cause host manipulation in those who have been infected, including Mark McGowan, PM Anthony Albanese and all of our other infected pollies.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 9^th, 2022 at 12:23pm

Just bumping this up for the Bobbsey twins (especially the extra stupid, extra abusive one).

Mark McGowan announces November 4 end to WA’s virus state of emergency

Quote:

The changes mean the bulk of the State’s remaining COVID measures fall away from Friday, including the requirement for people who have tested positive to the virus to isolate for a minimum of five days.

Instead, Mr McGowan said COVID would now be treated the same as any other respiratory condition, with West Australians expected to stay away from work or social events only while ill.

Again...

Quote:

Mr McGowan said COVID would now be treated the same as any other respiratory condition,

Sounds like he's saying Covid is now the same as the flu there to me. And I'm certain the majority of the population will see it as such.

I believe the Prime Minister or the Chief Health Officer has said the same (or similar) recently but I'm not looking for a link right now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:20am

The shocking irresponsibility of the State and Federal governments in removing our last remaining Covid protections has already become apparent here in Perth.

On Monday I was up at Belmont Forum and noticed the "Masks must be worn on these premises" sign had gone from the front window of Specsavers (not that the staff were enforcing it anyway from what I'd seen over the past few weeks).

Even more concerning was when I took my elderly aunt to see her GP on Tuesday afternoon. There was still a "Please wear a mask" sign in the front window but when we went inside (wearing our KN95's) the first thing the maskless lady on the reception desk said to us was "You don't need to wear the masks now if you don't want to".

None of the 3 reception staff were wearing masks and only about 1 or 2 of the half dozen patients waiting were wearing them.

I gave her a long stare and said something like "yes, it does seem that way but we're keeping ours on, thanks". She then kinda sheepishly said "Oh, OK".

We then sat down (as far away from everyone else as we could) and waited. Fortunately, no one there was coughing up a lung at the time.

At least my aunt's GP was wearing a high quality mask similar to ours but I noticed a few of the other GP's were not wearing a mask at all or they were wearing surgical "baggy blues".

I can't believe this sort of thing is happening - especially with a new wave of vaccine and antiviral evading Covid variants already spreading here in Australia. Absolutely disgraceful.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by reggie1963 on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:20am

Carl D wrote on Nov 9^th, 2022 at 12:23pm:

Just bumping this up for the Bobbsey twins (especially the extra stupid, extra abusive one).

Mark McGowan announces November 4 end to WA’s virus state of emergency

Quote:

Again...

[quote]Mr McGowan said COVID would now be treated the same as any other respiratory condition,

Sounds like he's saying Covid is now the same as the flu there to me. And I'm certain the majority of the population will see it as such.

I believe the Prime Minister or the Chief Health Officer has said the same (or similar) recently but I'm not looking for a link right now.[/quote]

Thats because it doesn't exist because you are a liar making sh*t up.

It does not exist because they did not say that.

You believe they said that but it was never said so you lie through your teeth.

You are full of sh*t.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by reggie1963 on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:41am

Quote:
Mr McGowan said COVID would now be treated the same as any other respiratory condition.

HE DID NOT SAY "Covid is mild and no more dangerous than the flu"

Do you know how many respiratory conditions there are Dunce?

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-diseases/lung-disease-lookup

Once again you have lied. The little boy who got caught lying.

Many very serious respiratory diseases exist and you have minimalised people with diseases with your constant lies and BS by applying a quote from McGowan to your own narraitive.

Once again we can all see you are full of a mixture of elephant and horse sh*t.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:50am

^^^^^ See the degradation of OzPol ^^^^^

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:51am

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 10:20am

bedwetter you really are a mummies boy. I bet your mother still lays out your clothes on your bed like a flat top. :D LOL

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 10:28am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:50am:

^^^^^ See the degradation of OzPol ^^^^^

Indeed. I'm wondering how much more they will be allowed to get away with (especially Reggie) before something is done? I really couldn't care less about how abusive and offensive they are with me but seeing as this is supposed to be a family site... well...

Anyway... I'll post this again seeing as it was lost in the off topic 'noise' generated by the Bobbsey twins.

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:20am:

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 10:33am

A family site ??? Are you kidding us mate. :D LOL

What about you continually pushing your big pharma poisons onto everyone when the weight of the evidence says they are not only ineffective but also BAD for people !! Is that what you mean by a family website carl ???

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 11:51am

Hey, Marky Mark (McGowan).

Where's our Covid traffic light system and when will it be changed to amber (and later no doubt red)?

Probably be waiting a while regardless of how bad Covid gets here in WA since you've only just given the "all green" signal last Friday by removing our last few remaining Covid protections.

Edit: never mind, after seeing how impressive yet pointless Queensland's one is I have no doubt ours would be exactly the same.

https://twitter.com/qldhealth/status/1590513810603118593

Quote:

While the traffic light is amber, Queenslanders should wear a mask:
👉 in healthcare settings
👉 indoors, if you can’t socially distance
👉 on public transport
👉 if you are older/medically at risk
👉 around people who are vulnerable to COVID-19.

"Should" wear a mask which of course will mean 99% of the population still won't.

Mind you, it didn't say "should" when Queensland Health announced their traffic light system on October 31st.

https://twitter.com/qldhealth/status/1586900458983272449

Amber just says "wear a mask" without specifying whether it's compulsory, recommended or whatever.

And red says "wear a mask indoors" again without stating if it's compulsory or just "recommended".

Oh... "Please follow this advice". Yeah, right... I'm sure everyone will do that. ::)

https://twitter.com/PaigeMcI/status/1587112877361860608

Quote:

On tonight's news they said that red meant masks were recommended indoors...which effectively means nobody will mask and nobody will enforce it. Useless!

Yep (at least she got that comment in before Queensland Health turned off the replies).

10 out of 10 though for making it look like they're doing something about Covid when they're really doing.... nothing.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:16pm

How does a paper mask filter out sub micron biological matter ?

This what a proper biological suit looks like carl. You really are gullible mate.

https://www.dupont.com/personal-protection/biological-hazard-protection.html

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:52pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

How does a paper mask filter out sub micron biological matter ?

KN95 and similar masks are not made from paper.

https://www.rollingstone.com/product-recommendations/lifestyle/n95-vs-kn95-masks-1044184/

Quote:

Both N95 masks and KN95 masks are made from multiple layers of synthetic material (typically a polypropylene plastic polymer) and are designed to be worn over the mouth and nose.

Wouldn't really have expected you to know that, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:59pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

How does a paper mask filter out sub micron biological matter ?

KN95 and similar masks are not made from paper.

https://www.rollingstone.com/product-recommendations/lifestyle/n95-vs-kn95-masks-1044184/

Quote:

Both N95 masks and KN95 masks are made from multiple layers of synthetic material (typically a polypropylene plastic polymer) and are designed to be worn over the mouth and nose.

Wouldn't really have expected you to know that, of course.

And not designed for biological use either. OK on a worksite to filter out particulate matter and that's why they are sold in bunnings.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 6:45pm

lol... I bet Basil Zempilas (Perth's Lord Mayor for all of our Eastern Staters) was having kittens when he saw the front page of today's The West Australian.

Don't worry, Baz... after reading the story (which was tucked away on page 11) I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing compulsory masks back in Perth for Christmas. It'll only be "recommended" or "encouraged" and we've seen how well that works out, haven't we?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 1:36pm

Well, this certainly isn't in line with the "pandemic is over" narrative that's been fed to us by our governments, the media and big business during the past few months.

The front page of today's The Sunday Times.

I only had a quick look at page 7 and it was pretty much the same as what was in yesterday's The West Australian (with the added information about the hospitals).

As Effie Stephanidis (Mary Coustas) used to say many years ago:

"How embarrassment!" :-[

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

Wow... there's more information about Covid making a comeback (it never went away, of course) in today's paper than I've seen printed for months (other than the usual "pandemic is over" BS here and there).

As well as the front page there's page 7 (top left of image) and another 3 page Covid 'spread' further inside the paper. Sorry the print isn't readable because I had to reduce it quite a bit to post as an attachment but you get the idea.

Oh... the "Virus can't stop luxury cruise" story was interesting... turns out that a lot of the people who were boarding the Majestic Princess in Sydney yesterday didn't even know about the Covid outbreak until they arrived at the dock... but it didn't stop them boarding anyway. ::)

Wonder what's going on? Has similar information been printed in other papers around Australia (especially Melbourne's Herald Sun which had their infamous "It's official - the pandemic is over" headline last month)?

Maybe the media is getting a bit concerned about possibly having to show up as defendants in future lawsuits brought on by the families of the people who are still dying from Covid every week "But, we were repeatedly told by the media that the pandemic was over".

Whatever the reason, hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more people wearing masks in shopping centres, etc. in the coming weeks.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:07pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:02pm:

Wow... there's more information about Covid making a comeback (it never went away, of course) in today's paper than I've seen printed for months (other than the usual "pandemic is over" BS here and there).

As well as the front page there's page 7 (top left of image) and another 3 page Covid 'spread' further inside the paper. Sorry the print isn't readable but I had to reduce it quite a bit to post as an attachment but you get the idea.

Oh... the "Virus can't stop luxury cruise" story was interesting... turns out that a lot of the people who were boarding the Majestic Princess in Sydney yesterday didn't even know about the Covid outbreak until they arrived at the dock... but it didn't stop them boarding anyway. ::)

Wonder what's going on? Has similar information been printed in other papers around Australia (especially Melbourne's Herald Sun which had their infamous "It's official - the pandemic is over" headline last month)?

Maybe the media is getting a bit concerned about possibly having to show up as defendants in future lawsuits brought on by the families of the people who are still dying from Covid every week "But, we were repeatedly told by the media that the pandemic was over".

Whatever the reason, hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more people wearing masks in shopping centres, etc. in the coming weeks.

yeah.

people are over it.

time to move on

stop testing

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 9:25pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 9:25pm

So predictable.

Premier Mark McGowan rules out a return to mask wearing despite health chief concerns

Paywalled of course but self explanatory.

Who's been paying you off and/or threatening you and was it worth it?

I could make a few guesses and I'd probably be right with most or all of them.

How the 'mighty' have fallen in the past 12 months - he's gone from "I don't to see West Australians getting sick and dying with Covid" to "let it rip and too bad if people are sick and dying as long as the economy is doing OK again".

Too scared to upset your donors and a lot of the population by mandating masks, aren't you? Just like the rest of our useless, gutless pollies.

You and the rest of Australia's politicians should be hanging your heads in shame.

POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT BE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 9:26pm

Looking forward (not) to seeing the WA government's next big waste of taxpayers' money with TV and newspaper ads this week urging people to make sure they're up to date with their Covid vaccinations and "recommending" or maybe even "strongly recommending" the wearing of masks indoors.

Which of course will mean that 99% of the population will continue not to wear a mask like they're not doing now (which is exactly what the pollies and businesses want) and probably also scratch their heads and think to themselves: "why do I need to have any more Covid vaccinations? The pandemic is supposed to be over, isn't it"?

With each day that passes it feels like we're getting closer and closer to living in the sort of dystopian nightmare we've only seen in science fiction and horror movies so far. I suspect we're almost there right now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 9:26pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1591668109911666689

Premier Mark McGowan rules out a return to mask wearing despite WA Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson concerns.

Quote:

We're still at the stage where people need to take personal responsibility

;D ;D ;D

When does that "stage" begin because I still haven't seen it yet (apart from a few - very few - people wearing masks in shops, etc.)?

And, what is the next "stage" (if there even is one)?

Seriously... I can't believe McGowan and the rest of the State Premiers (and the Prime Minister on the rare occasion when he's actually in Australia) are still pushing that cr@p.

Oh, and...

Quote:

Mr McGowan acknowledged COVID-19 cases were on the rise again but said the numbers were not significant enough for him to be concerned.

Of course not - especially when he (and the rest of Australia's pollies) no doubt has 'instant' access to antivirals and other treatments the rest of us plebs cannot get.

I wonder how many deaths it will take for him to be concerned? There's already 711 dead West Australians (since WA opened up in March) who will not be spending this Christmas with their families.

Quote:

Anna-
@annatime94
·
16h
Replying to
@BigBadDenis
and
@MarkMcGowanMP
I don’t know which Premier I despise the most these days

Same here, Anna... same here.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 8:29am

Still not killing off enough of the oldies and medically vulnerable I guess?

WA COVID Care at Home to conclude

Quote:

Western Australia’s COVID-19 monitoring program WA COVID Care at Home will come to an end on 31 December 2022, with the last intake of patients occurring on Wednesday, 30 November 2022.

WA Health established WA COVID Care at Home on 31 January 2022 to provide home monitoring care for COVID-positive patients at higher risk of serious illness from COVID-19 due to medical and social factors and to reduce unnecessary hospital presentations.

Much easier for them to catch Covid by having to go to hospital instead of being cared for at home these days, so it seems.

Quote:

The state now has stronger protection against serious illness from COVID-19 due to very high vaccination levels, prior infection, access to antiviral treatments and enhanced medical and public understanding about how to manage the risks.

Gaslighting BS. And, WA only has 24.6% of the population with a 4th vaccination (2nd booster) right now.

And, "prior infection" is useless when it comes to getting infected with the next variant within weeks (and even the same one in a lot of cases). Not to mention the effects of Long Covid.

Quote:

With the recent end of WA’s State of Emergency powers, the conclusion of WA COVID Care at Home aligns with the state’s transition to manage COVID-19 through sustainable public health measures, vaccination and targeted testing processes.

More gaslighting BS. And, even if you don't get Covid in the hospital, by the time an ambulance arrives to take you there it might already be too late.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 10:58am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

yeah.

people are over it.

time to move on

stop testing

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1591952479461478400

Quote:

Australia - this is what you have to wear to work with SARSCoV2 in a BSL3 laboratory

@AlboMP
and the Premiers think it’s ok for your kids to go to school with it each day

Something is VERY wrong

We all might want to pause and think about that for a minute.

And...

https://twitter.com/RichHaridy/status/1591270341367967744

Quote:

New variants XBF and BR.2.1 hypothesised to have originated in Australia.
Well done team. So proud of everyone. See what we can create when everyone bands together to drop all restrictions and collectively let infections run free.

Quote:

Lynette
@Lynette13751775
·
Nov 12
Replying to
@RichHaridy
and
@emmaandollie
Well done @AlboMP
, you’ve finally achieved something

Yes indeed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 2:56pm

fear

deep rotting fear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ibl4nPmRE

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 3:25pm

Was good to see a lot more people wearing masks at Belmont Forum this morning, might have been between 10 and 20 percent wearing them compared with the usual 1 to 5 percent.

Must have been a lot of people taking notice of the newspapers over the past 2 days?

Let's see if it lasts... if mask usage increases too much the State government may have to look at banning them before it upsets Mark's big business buddies "masks are bad because they deter people from shopping and spending" (oh, and Basil with his rag tag band of CBD coffee shop owners and CBD office landlords "masks deter people from coming into the city and we also can't have people working from home even if it is a lot more convenient and cheaper for them to do so").

Not to mention the huge benefit to the environment by not having all of those cars on the roads with people travelling to and from the CBD for work most days of the week (Oil companies don't like that one, of course).

And, I've also made my own little "private protest" today against our government's "let it rip for the economy" official policy now.

Had a phone call from a friend while I was at the Forum, he wanted to book 6 of us in for Christmas Eve at a popular northern suburbs tavern. I said that if there were no Covid safe 'protocols' in place (staff and customers wearing masks at a bare minimum, working air purifiers would also be good) then my aunt and I won't be going. Now he is making a booking for only 4.

Anyway, he said we'll all get together for a backyard sausage sizzle at his place sometime around Christmas like we usually do every year and that's fine with me.

The government expects us to now "live with the virus" but I can assure them my aunt and I don't plan on getting sick (repeatedly) or even dying for their sh*tty economy. We haven't eaten out since my birthday lunch in early August.

I know a few other people who have been doing and still are doing the same.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 10:06am

Oh, my. :o

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidJoffe64/status/1591996462128574464

Quote:

Perhaps if his testicles could be removed from the glass besides Big Mining's bed, and his spine could be surgically re-inserted....

But... Nope, Nada, zip... Nuttin'
🤡🤡🤡

"Well, that hit the spot" as Arnold Schwarzenegger said near the end of the 1987 film The Running Man. 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 12:25pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

Oh, my. :o

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidJoffe64/status/1591996462128574464

Quote:

Perhaps if his testicles could be removed from the glass besides Big Mining's bed, and his spine could be surgically re-inserted....

But... Nope, Nada, zip... Nuttin'
🤡🤡🤡

"Well, that hit the spot" as Arnold Schwarzenegger said near the end of the 1987 film The Running Man. 8-)

the economy is way way way more important than a mild respiratory virus.

well done premier

he must have read my email

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 12:31pm

"the economy is way way way more important than ~~a mild respiratory virus~~ 720 dead West Australians so far (711 since March), 176 currently in hospital (5 in ICU) and countless long Covid cases both now and still to come".

There - fixed that for you.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Meanwhile, WA Health obviously has more 'important' things to worry about.

WA Health warns community of severe reactions after consuming poppy seed tea

Quote:

WA Health is warning of the dangers of consuming large quantities of poppy seeds after a person has become ill in Western Australia.

::) ::) ::)

(Hope this person makes a full recovery, of course)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm

"urges"

"encouraged"

"consider"

We'll add them to the previously seen (and no doubt ignored by most people):

"recommended"

"strongly recommended"

and "please follow this advice"

This is the most polite mass death and disabling event ever.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by reggie1963 on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 4:55pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

I'll be happy when you appear on the list.

Time to get back to work for me now. It annoys the crap out me that my job involves protecting peoples identity like you. Never mind I can't pick and choose.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

I went to visit my mother in hospital again today (RPH), and they've completely dropped all screening for the virus at the front door.

You no longer have to do the online questionnaire and show the big green tick on your phone to the security guys.

No proof of vaccination required, and I even saw people walking in without masks.

They just wave you right through now. Ridiculous.

And, on an ever sadder more personal note, mum's not doing well.

She's in her 10th day of COVID now and she's had enough.

Can't eat, drink, or walk and can hardly talk.

She wants to stop all medication and treatment. Says she's had enough and just wants to die :'(

I'm hand feeding her the medication and keeping up her fluids manually too.

The more time I'm by her bed the more she perks up.

She's agreed to hang on for a few more days to see how the antivirals go.

Even though the doctors don't consider her to be critical, and believe she'll beat COVID, I don't see this ending well.

Lost my father earlier in the year, and now it looks like mum might not make it to Christmas.

I'll encourage her to keep fighting though :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm

The time for wearing masks and restricting movement is over. It was sound policy initially, however once the majority of people were vaccinated it had no further purpose except in the case of especially vulnerable people, who are looked after by normal quarantine precautions anyway. Unfortunately McGowan was one of the Premiers who got carried away by his newfound power and is reluctant to give it up.

Edited to add I had not seen Greggys post above when I posted this. I am sorry for your personal circumstances.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 7:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

I can't believe how we've gone from the best place in the world to be during this pandemic to one of the worst (if not THE worst) in such a short space of time.

There's too much of this "oh, it isn't mandated anymore so we don't have to do it now" BS going on. I'm still a bit stunned about when I took my aunt to see her GP last week and the first thing the receptionist told us was "you don't need to wear the masks anymore if you don't want to".

I also have to take my aunt to the Belmont Seniors Centre tomorrow morning to have her hair done and help out a bit with making coffees, etc. like she does every Wednesday. If she's still the only one there wearing a mask like she has been for the past few months I'm going to stop taking her there which will no doubt cause a row between us but I don't care.

I really hope your mother gets through this, Greg.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 7:17pm

poo, Greg, that doesn’t sound good!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 7:19pm

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

He's aleady given it up on November 4th.

WA’s State of Emergency to end 12.01am November 4, 2022

And, unfortunately, the vaccines (while saving many, many lives) are now hardly effective against the latest variants.

Our governments went for the "vaccines only then let it rip" approach which has proved to be a disaster but they won't admit they've made a big mistake and at least make some sort of effort to stop the uncontrolled spread of this rapidly mutating, vaccine and now antiviral evading virus like mandating masks.

Plus they're obviously afraid of the backlash from their corporate masters and a large part of the population who consider it a major inconvenience to wear a mask to protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 7:41pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 7:19pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Unfortunately Covid is here to stay. We must learn to live with it as we do with any other disease. Annual vaccinations for the most vulnerable and any others who want them, similar to the way we mange the flu now, may be the way to go. What we cannot do is indefinitely keep on with mask and movement restrictions.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:46am

Hmm...

COVID in WA: Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson tips new virus wave to peak in early December

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea.

A few days ago we were being told it was going to be late November.

What's the bet it won't now be updated to mid or late December? Can't interfere with that all important Christmas shopping and spending spree, can we? Not to mention people booking flights for holidays, etc.

And, I'm betting after the "peak" the numbers won't start to come down too quickly... the only reason why they do come down between "waves" is because people become complacent and don't bother getting tested.

I've seen a few comments from people the past week where they're saying things like "Oh, it looks like Covid has returned". NEWS FLASH - it never went away (except in the media, of course).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 9:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

That doesn’t sound good, Greg! If the medics are optimistic tho no reason why your Mum won’t pull through.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 10:35am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

That doesn’t sound good, Greg! If the medics are optimistic tho no reason why your Mum won’t pull through.

Yeah, but she's just fed up with being in and out of hospital all the time (16 admissions in the last 12 months).

She's giving up and is reluctant to take her medication, including the anti-virals.

Took me two hours yesterday to slowly feed her all the meds crushed up in yoghurt.

If I'm not there the staff don't have the time to do that, so she goes without sometimes.

When I got into the hospital at 10am yesterday she just wanted to die.

By the time I left at around 1pm she had perked up, and agreed to continue treatment (she has a wonderful doctor).

But it just drains me so much - every minute of the day I'm thinking about her laying there in the bed wasting away.

I have to get one of my kids to the airport and back over to the eastern states today, and want to have lunch with them before they go, so I won't get to see mum until later in the afternoon.

I'm dreading what she'll be like by then.

I need to call some people this morning to get some help - I'm just worn out after two years of looking after my parents and losing Dad earlier this year (I have no other family here to help me).

Anyway, COVID is alive and well in Perth - apart from my mother there are at least half a dozen other patients (that I've seen) in RPH with the virus.

I'm very disappointed in McGowan - he's going down the 'economy over lives' path now, and many people are going to die or get very sick around Christmas because of it.

At the very least he should be mandating masks in all shopping areas and public transport, but he doesn't even want to do that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 11:51am

I know what looking after frail old parents is like, Greg. Two sisters, several nieces, no help. One of my dear family stole all the photos on the mantelpiece, two pieces of jade of mine and Mum’s wedding ring.

One consolation re Mum’s death—she died before dementia took away everything. She knew we were there by her bedside in the hospital.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 12:14pm

Hang in there Greg and don't hesitate to get extra help for your mother if you need to.

I was asked by my aunt's GP earlier this year (in private) if I needed any help with looking after my aunt but I said I'm OK for the moment. Like you, I don't have anyone else to help me.

If I didn't have a car I would definitely have to get help because I would never have my aunt taking public transport or even taxis these days. Actually, if it wasn't for my aunt I probably would have got rid of the car by now to save myself a lot of money (she does give me quite a bit towards it and I appreciate that of course) and the less money I have to pay to governments the happier I will be.

We do have relatives (my cousin and his wife) living in Secret Harbour who I'm sure would help us out if needed, they were meant to come and visit us last week but he's sick and his wife is worried about getting whatever he's got and then one or both of them passing it on to us.

He believes it isn't Covid because he's done 2 RAT's and they're both negative. I advised him to also get a PCR test (if he can get one) but I haven't heard anything more from them so far.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 4:33pm

My aunt and I just got back from Belmont Forum about an hour ago.

Seemed to be about as many people wearing masks as there were on Monday - probably between 10 and 20 percent.

We noticed there were almost no painkillers (Panadol, etc.) left on the shelves in Coles when we were in there. Hardly any cough mixture left as well.

Didn't look in Woolies but I suspect it may have been the same there.

Now, what I'm wondering is - wouldn't it be cheaper (and no doubt better for their health because they probably wouldn't be coughing up a lung all day like I heard a few people doing today) if these people stocking up on Panadol and cough mixture, etc. just bought a box or two of high quality masks say, once a month (and wore them)?

I wonder if that idea ever occurred to any of them?

I doubt it. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 4:38pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 4:33pm:

I just got back from the airport.

Nobody inside was wearing a mask, and lots of people were coughing without even covering their mouths.

Christmas is gonna be a disaster this year.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 5:16pm

I agree - Christmas will be a disaster.

Actually, the sudden shortage of painkillers like Panadol may not be entirely due to people having Covid but also because there's been talk of limiting the sale of painkillers lately.

Paracetamol limits flagged as self-harming rises

Quote:

An amendment to the Poisons Standard could see limits placed on how much over-the-counter paracetamol can be sold to consumers in one transaction, as the TGA attempts to curb misuse of the drug.

People are probably 'stocking up' ahead of any limits placed on the amounts they can buy in any one purchase.

And... wait for it... we might be seeing another round of toilet roll panic buying shortly but not because of lockdowns this time.

Sorbent boss warns toilet paper prices will rise as gas bill set to almost triple

Quote:

The boss of a major Australian toilet paper company has warned prices are about rise as the manufacturer’s gas bill is expected to almost triple.

I'm sure it'll be just like jumping into a time machine and going back to 2020. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 2:39pm

Yes.

"Lost" somewhere by the WA government so it would seem.

No doubt in much the same way as this appears to have been "lost" by the Federal government.

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights Article 12, Section (c)

Quote:

Mind you, that was adopted on 16 December 1966 by General Assembly resolution 2200A (XXI) so it's quite possible our current Federal government may need to be reminded of their obligations with them being the bunch of "forgetful" old fogeys they appear to be.

Which is what I'm hoping some human rights lawyers are doing right now.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 2:53pm

Just got back from the hospital.

Three new COVID patients in my mother's room.

Not sure what happened to the three that were there yesterday - hopefully they're okay.

The security at the front entrance is even worse today - they didn't even look up to see who was entering.

No mask or vaccination required - just walk right in and go wherever you want.

They're still strict with the PPE on mum's ward though, which is a good thing.

I'm so good at putting on the PPE, that I get mistaken for a doctor every time I go in now ;D

I spent some time looking after the other 3 patients in mum's room this morning - getting them drinks of water, boxes of tissues etc. Felt good to help them out.

Nobody else ever seems to visit :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

where do you find the time to post so much about the big fella ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

Just got back from Maddington Central shopping centre about an hour ago - seems to be a few more people wearing masks than there were last Saturday.

Probably only about between 10 and 20 percent of shoppers wearing them but at least it's an improvement - let's see how long it lasts.

And... I can't believe that even with the very small number of people wearing masks nowadays I still see a few surgical "baggy blues" being worn as chin warmers - saw a couple this afternoon. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Good to see your mother is still doing OK, Greg. Hopefully something will be done about enforcing vaccination and masks at all of our hospitals and healthcare settings again very soon. I still can't believe they've relaxed/removed Covid protections in hospitals of all places.

And, not just hospitals, of course.

https://twitter.com/monniemooboo/status/1593369551370059778

Quote:

Went to GP appointment last week. Both son and I masked. No medical staff masked, including GP. Unfortunately son couldn’t get the spirometry test that was recommended as clinic nurse was off sick….with covid….again.

It's sad about no one visiting the other 3 patients, perhaps their families are worried about catching Covid themselves or they're just too 'busy' with it being the weekend?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 3:15pm:

~~where do you find the time to post so much about the big fella ?~~

Off topic nonsense struck through.

Well, that felt good, I can assure you. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:05pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 7:03pm:

It's sad about no one visiting the other 3 patients, perhaps their families are worried about catching Covid themselves or they're just too 'busy' with it being the weekend?

I'm talking about the entire 17 days she's been in there.

I've never seen another visitor in mum's ward.

I can understand the fear of COVID, but it still seems a bit strange.

Then again, I remember when my father was in the nursing home I would visit every day yet some of the residents there never had a single visitor. Ever.

When he passed away earlier in the year I donated all of his clothes and furniture to those lonely old souls.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm

From where I'm observing it seems to be fairly obvious why our governments are trying their best to convince everyone that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is "mild" and just like another cold or flu and should be treated "like any other respiratory disease".

It's a little embarrassing for them if too many people find out too much of the truth about Covid of course because this "mild respiratory disease" is now on track to kill between 10 and 20 times more people every year than the flu does (in a bad flu year).

And, it also isn't 'seasonal' like the flu which is no doubt something else our governments want us all to believe.

They seem to think that by doing this it relieves them of their obligations under the various State Health Acts and other things like The International Covenant I mentioned earlier because they just let the flu run rampant through the population every year and nothing is ever done to stop it and there are obviously no 'repercussions' for not stopping it.

But (and I'm no lawyer) it looks to me like under ICESCR Article 12 Section (c) our governments should also be making efforts to stop the spread of the flu every year (I'm sure that the flu also fits the description of an "epidemic" or "endemic" disease) but, as I said, they have done nothing about it for decades - other than say "get your flu shot" just like they're now doing with COVID-19.

The border closures and other Covid protections that were in effect during 2020 and 2021 in Australia proved that the flu could be almost stopped and flu deaths almost completely eliminated which should be a further cause for concern (and embarrasssment) for our governments.

TL:DR (Too Long:Didn't Read): Australia (and other western countries no doubt) have been ignoring their responsibility under ICESCR Article 12 Section (c) (and probably their own States' Health Acts) regarding the flu for many decades and they're now hoping to get away with doing the same for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 9:00pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

My mother said to me today that if she ever again hears anyone claim that COVID is mild and that it's just like the flu, she's gonna set them straight.

It is without doubt the worst thing she has ever been through, and for three days there it was touch & go.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 10:39am

lol... yeah, OK then Andy. If you say so.

Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson issues warning to WA school leavers as omicron wave hits

Paywalled like The West Australian does with most Covid news (except when saying things like "post Covid" and "post pandemic", of course).

I'm guessing they're referring to this:

Leavers WA: Frequently Asked Questions

Quote:

Leavers is the official celebration for students completing their secondary education.

The celebrations take place in various destinations across Australia and for West Australian students, the preferred destinations are Dunsborough, Busselton, Yallingup, and Margaret River.

During the official Leavers dates, the Southwest swells with thousands of school leavers flocking to the beachside towns for five epic days of sun, surf, nightly parties and good vibes with their mates. Over the last decade, it has become a rite of passage and a must-do event for all high-school graduates.

I'm sure all of these school leavers will be taking "personal responsibility" just like most of the adult population is(n't) doing.

It'll be a week of Covid superspreader events, no doubt.

Just like the Guns N' Roses concert on Friday night (paywalled again so I don't know if "strangely quiet" means not making much noise or there weren't too many people there).

Oh, and another one of Basil's boring drone shows last night.

We are going to soooooo screwed before Christmas but the sad part is most people don't even realise it (yet).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 11:33am

Hey carl does this ring any bells for you ??

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 11:36am

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

I'd like them to come to RPH and spend an hour in a room with four people suffering from COVID and see what they say then.

There's nothing mild about it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 11:36am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

I'd like them to come to RPH and spend an hour in a room with four people suffering from COVID and see what they say then.

There's nothing mild about it.

You'll be spending more time with people who have had major vax adverse reactions and injuries. :(

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:47pm

Just got back from the Kooyong Road, Rivervale IGA.

Wasn't particularly busy but I did find it a little disturbing that I was the only one wearing a mask during the 10 minutes I was in there.

Usually I see a few of the staff (especially the ones manning the checkouts) wearing masks but not today.

The next month or two will be very interesting to say the least.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:54pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Very quiet in RPH this morning.

Most people were wearing masks, which was good to see.

Everyone in my mother's room seems to be doing okay, which is also good to see.

Mum is doing a lot better - sitting up reading the paper (that's the first time I've bought the Sunday Times in about 30 years), eating (horrible) soup, taking all her meds, and having full conversations again.

I didn't stick around long though - I get a bit nervous being in a room with four people who all have COVID, although the PPE and air purifiers seem to be doing their job.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 2:43pm

Hey, Greg.

Did you see the "Leavers" story on page 7 of ~~The Harvey Norman Catalogue~~... oops, The Sunday Times?

WA's top doctor wants them to physically distance, wear masks on buses, get tested if they have COVID like symptoms, stay at home and stay away from others at least until their symptoms have disappeared.

And, be prepared and pack RAT's, face masks and hand sanitiser.

Yes, I'm sure they will all do exactly that.

;D ;D ;D

Oh, and the story on page 9 about the Guns N' Roses concert at Optus Stadium on Friday night. Didn't say how many were there but the crowd were fairly quiet as I posted earlier, they say it might have been due to the cold and damp weather and/or the band not playing their greatest hits until nearly the end of the show. And some SNAFU about getting wristbands.

All I know for sure is that I was safely at home while all that was going on. Never been inside Optus Stadium since it opened (walked and driven near and around it quite a few times) and I can't see myself going inside anytime in the foreseeable future.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 6:22pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

This might explain it carl ;)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:48pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:52pm

Probably wouldn't need to do so much 'page flipping' if certain people kept their antivaxxer/antimask rubbish in their own threads.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:52pm

I wonder what might be causing this?

At the entrance to the Telstra shop in Belmont Forum this morning.

If I had a black texta with me and there weren't so many people around I may have been tempted to write COVID? at the bottom in big letters.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:53pm

In today's The West Australian.

Maybe the much hoped for "Short, Sharp Wave" would be a bit shorter if the staff and customers in these places started wearing masks again?

Same applies to everyone else in Perth.

Won't be long before they're pleading with customers to wear masks and also not to come to their businesses when they're sick to prevent more and more staff from getting infected and then they can't open like what's happened in South Australia and probably other States.

Quote:

Those concerned about getting COVID have become a bit more reticent about where they go and what they do.

Yep, I know of one northern suburbs tavern that will be missing out on getting some money from at least two 'lost' customers on Christmas Eve already.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Those concerned about getting COVID have become a bit more reticent about where they go and what they do.

Yep, I know of one northern suburbs tavern that will be missing out on getting some money from at least two 'lost' customers on Christmas Eve already.

carl did you read that excellent article .

covid infections up 88 % but hospitalisations and ICU admissions DOWN.

so why arent you celebrating the end of the pandemic along with the rest of humanity

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Those concerned about getting COVID have become a bit more reticent about where they go and what they do.

Yep, I know of one northern suburbs tavern that will be missing out on getting some money from at least two 'lost' customers on Christmas Eve already.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Infections up 88% (that definitely shouldn't be suggesting to anyone that the pandemic is over for starters).

Between 50 and 100 Covid deaths every week. 108 deaths last week.

Hospitalisations were up 336 for Australia last week and up 8 for ICU.

Not down.

https://covidlive.com.au/archive/20221118

That's the strangest definition of "end of the pandemic" I've ever seen. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:22pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Whatever aquascoot says, you just have to think the opposite in order to get the truth.

https://youtu.be/EZg9DCunHEk

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 4:22pm:

Whatever aquascoot says, you just have to think the opposite in order to get the truth.

Hi, Greg.

Yeah... true. He was actually referring to WA's Covid numbers from that article in the West Australian but I do believe to get a truer picture as to what's going on we need to look at the whole of Australia.

But, WA hospitalisations were up 3 at the end of last week making 179 in hospital and 3 in ICU (down 2).

And another 15 deaths for the week.

I really do hope this is a "short, sharp wave" here in WA but I have a bad feeling about this. Especially when our so called health experts are comparing our current wave with Singapore but failing to mention a lot more people in Singapore have had their 3rd Covid vaccination than we have here and also about 90% of Singapore's population wear masks as opposed to about 5% here.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 10:34pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

And, I've also made my own little "private protest" today against our government's "let it rip for the economy" official policy now.

Had a phone call from a friend while I was at the Forum, he wanted to book 6 of us in for Christmas Eve at a popular northern suburbs tavern. I said that if there were no Covid safe 'protocols' in place (staff and customers wearing masks at a bare minimum, working air purifiers would also be good) then my aunt and I won't be going. Now he is making a booking for only 4.

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Yep, I know of one northern suburbs tavern that will be missing out on getting some money from at least two 'lost' customers on Christmas Eve already.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

so why arent you celebrating the end of the pandemic along with the rest of humanity

Just had a call from my friend - he was one of the remaining 4 who were planning to go to the tavern on Christmas Eve. Now the whole 6 of us won't be going because they've also decided it isn't worth the risk with Covid so they haven't booked.

Instead, all 6 of us will be meeting at his place on New Years Eve for a 'sausage sizzle'.

How's that for all of us taking "personal responsibility", aqua? I guess my elderly aunt and I aren't the only ones not willing to risk our health - possibly even our lives - for the economy.

And, I'm prepared to bet there's many more like us.

By the way... 12 months ago (and in previous years) while "Fortress WA" was still intact we had no hesitation booking something like this for all of us (for both Christmas and New Year) but after Mark McGowan did his gold medal winning spectacular backflip into the Covid cesspit last March (and dragged all of us along with him) and it's now "every man and woman for themselves", "personal responsibility" and "you do you" we've decided "we'll do us" and save our money this year.

All because we have governments that are too cowardly to mandate masks and reinstate other protections even though Covid cases are skyrocketing. And businesses that won't ask their staff and customers to wear masks because "we don't have to do that anymore".

Too Bad So Sad (for them).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 4:59am

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 10:34pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Yep, I know of one northern suburbs tavern that will be missing out on getting some money from at least two 'lost' customers on Christmas Eve already.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 21^st, 2022 at 3:40pm:

so why arent you celebrating the end of the pandemic along with the rest of humanity

but your own post shows hospitalisations are DOWN.

so the sky rocketing is of no consequence.

you and your elderly aunt are taking personal responsibility for your health by going to a sausage sizzle?

fake meat full of big foods fillers along with hyper refined carbs in the form of white bread, margarine (originally used as a tractor lubricant) and tomato sauce which is 40 % sugar.

and you think covid is dangerous to your health :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 6:21am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 4:59am:

...you and your elderly aunt are taking personal responsibility for your health by going to a sausage sizzle?

fake meat full of big foods fillers along with hyper refined carbs in the form of white bread, margarine (originally used as a tractor lubricant) and tomato sauce which is 40 % sugar.

and you think covid is dangerous to your health

Once again, another absurd conflation of two vastly different things LOL.

Now it's a deadly virus with a sausage sizzle!

BTW, margarine was NEVER used as a "tractor lubricant". They
were made of oil from seals, whales, and fish—a totally different
thing. In the early days of margarine manufacturing, those oils
were used as a cheaper dairy substitute.

But please don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 9:54am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 4:59am:

you and your elderly aunt are taking personal responsibility for your health by going to a sausage sizzle?

fake meat full of big foods fillers along with hyper refined carbs in the form of white bread, margarine (originally used as a tractor lubricant) and tomato sauce which is 40 % sugar.

and you think covid is dangerous to your health :'( :'( :'( :'(

;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the great laugh first thing in the morning.

Comparing eating food with potentially catching a brain and multiple organ damaging constantly mutating bat virus that's pretty much out of control at the moment all around Australia.

Even if this is a "short, sharp wave" (which I don't believe it will be, unfortunately) we still wouldn't be making a booking anywhere for Christmas and/or New Year.

Anyway, if it puts your mind at ease a little he didn't actually say sausage sizzle... he said finger food.

But, he usually 'fires up the barbie' every time we've been around there in the past.

I might have to print out your post and take it with me on the day to let everyone know of your concerns. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 10:17am

Hi Carl you dumb dumb

Nothing and I mean nothing comes anywhere close to sugar and trans fats
For damaging the brain and multiple organs

Kovid is not even in the same ballpark my friend

But you keep living in a false reality if you want :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 11:43pm

I don't seem to recall anyone asking me for my opinion?

New report reveals West Aussies’ strong support for Mark McGowan’s handling of COVID-19 pandemic

Paywalled as usual but you get the idea (oh, and you can stick your 50% off Black Friday subscription offer where the sun don't shine - I'm sick of hearing about "Black Friday" already and it's only Wednesday).

Anyway, if they had asked me for my opinion Mark McGowan also had my strong support until last March when he finally caved in to his corporate buddies/masters and unleashed Covid h3ll upon us all.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 5:02am

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 11:43pm:

yeah carl, you and gweg are out of touch . the poll confirms it

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:27am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:27am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 5:02am:

yeah carl, you and gweg are out of touch . the poll confirms it

I'd like to know when the poll was taken. Might have to waste another $2 to buy that worthless rag today and find out.

I'd also like to know the types of jobs (and if they're employed or not and the suburbs where they live) of all the people who were polled but I'm sure we won't be given that information.

(Hint: if they polled a lot of the people I've spoken to in our area during the past 8 months since WA 'opened up' I'm pretty sure McGowan's 'Covid report card' wouldn't be quite so 'glowing').

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:28am

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2022 at 11:43pm:

I'm sick of hearing about "Black Friday" already and it's only Wednesday.

Honestly - if we're going to follow the US and Canada and go with this "Black Friday" nonsense every year (like Halloween) then I have to wonder why today isn't a national public holiday for Thanksgiving here in Australia as well seeing as "Black Friday" is the day after Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving is a holiday in the US and Canada.

Can't really have one without the other but a national public holiday today would cause a big drop in the number of people shopping, wouldn't it? Not to mention many (most?) other businesses being closed for the day.

I'm betting the majority of Australians (and probably a lot of businesses too) wouldn't have a clue what "Black Friday" really means (just like Halloween) other than another opportunity to get people out and in the shops to spend, spend, spend.

And then businesses will be scratching their heads in a few weeks time and wonder why their Christmas sales are down (apart from Covid running rampant, of course). ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:33am

Correct Carl

Spend spend spending on trinkets you do not need is probably a sign of mental health issues

Spend spend spending on PPE and testing to the exclusion of other more dangerous illnesses
Is probably a sign of a mental health condition

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:45am

What's really the signs of mental health issues (well, greed actually) is when shops are still having "Black Friday" sales up to 2 weeks after the actual day as we've seen here the past few years. ::)

lol... nearly forgot... now we also have "Cyber Monday" which is the Monday after "Black Friday". :D

But, seeing as this is mostly an online sales 'thing' hopefully we won't be hearing too much about that here - but, I wouldn't bet on it. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 9:31am

Hi Carl kovid dominates your day

Never forget that your days on earth are numbered

You really should try to find a more positive reason to bounce out of bed
Then to obsess over a mild respiratory virus

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 10:35am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

...You really should try to find a more positive reason to bounce out of bed
Then to obsess over a mild respiratory virus.

And this is exactly the advice you should be giving to your bedmate Sir Lastnail,
who's posted hundreds of absurd claims and silly memes focussing on his fear
of the COVID vaccinations.

And I have to laugh at your terminology of COVID as a "mild respiratory virus".

SARS-CoV-2 may not kill a huge fraction of the people it infects, but the disease
caused by the virus has become the leading viral cause of death since 2020.

As of October 2022, the virus has caused more than 6.57 million deaths worldwide
and has infected at least 626 million people, according to OurWorldInData.

You seem to have very little knowledge of the virus and its effects on human life.
You might need to creep out of your cave, and check a few actual statistics.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 11:24am

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 10:35am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

...You really should try to find a more positive reason to bounce out of bed
Then to obsess over a mild respiratory virus.

I see you're still online, Geoff.

Just wondering - are you waiting for more stupidity from aquascoot or the inevitable abuse from Sir Nail?

We'll probably be seeing both in the next hour or two.

;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 11:54am

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 10:35am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

...You really should try to find a more positive reason to bounce out of bed
Then to obsess over a mild respiratory virus.

nail is not my bedmate mate.

i am all for the vax and , like 90 % of australians , i got it and now consider we should move on.

if people want to be agarophobic and stay home, they can stay home.

but that should be a source of embarrassment, not a source of pride ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Belgarion on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 12:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 11:54am:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 10:35am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

...You really should try to find a more positive reason to bounce out of bed
Then to obsess over a mild respiratory virus.

This is it. The disease is real and it has had serious consequences around the world. However now we have vaccines, most of us have had them and it is long past time to move on with our lives. Continual lockdowns and mask wearing is not the way forward.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 2:13pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 6:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 5:02am:

yeah carl, you and gweg are out of touch . the poll confirms it

Bugger.

It wasn't in today's The West Australian. Must have been in yesterday's (which I didn't get).

Can I have my $2 back? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 2:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Well, she made it.

After two courses of the five-day ~~Ivermectin~~ antiviral treatment, my mother has finally shaken off COVID.

Wasn't looking too good for a few days though.

Got her home from hospital yesterday, and so far so good.

The antivirals are a life saver!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 3:18pm

Great news, Greg.

Yes, the antivirals are definitely a life saver. I believe you need to use them within the first 5 days after becoming infected or they don't work well or don't work at all.

Another problem with the "let it rip" path taken by our governments is that the virus is being given almost unlimited opportunities to create more new variants and some of the latest ones now manage to evade most of our current antivirals.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sophia on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 3:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 9:00pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

Back in January when we caught it… was a harsh experience and for me to lose 6 kgs in 12 days is something that never happened to me before.

I understand how your Mum feels about hearing others getting it mild and only for about 3 days.
It’s the variant of the thing… it must be. ::)
Warn your mum she may find her hair might fall out in batches within the next 2 months.
But not to be alarmed as it will grow back eventually.
I ended up buying a wig alongside cancer patients buying wigs. A different world to be in yet a valuable service.
But good news…my hair has now grown back, but….curlier than ever… so many stray curls going every which way!

Has your mum’s taste/smell been affected?
Mine was… it’s at 80% recovered now but most things smell like coffee … I can’t even differentiate between perfumes… it all smells the same. Dang.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 24^th, 2022 at 3:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 9:00pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 19^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

Yeah, her taste is affected. Says most things taste "funny" now.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

Dr. Robertson expects WA's COVID wave will peak this week.

Yeah... nah. I don't think so (unless they stop reporting cases and deaths which wouldn't surprise me seeing as it's almost Christmas).

And, if that isn't bad enough we have a shipful of Covid arriving in Fremantle tomorrow as well. Great.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/queen-elizabeth-cruise-ship-to-dock-in-wa-with-about-200-covid-cases-on-board-c-8987395

Probably be about 400 cases by the time it docks.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:32pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:08pm:

Hey, Greg.

Remember this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/1753#1753

From today's The West Australian (even got a small mention on the front page but the main story is on page 7).

So, I'm guessing they didn't follow the health advice and pack face masks, RAT's and hand sanitiser, physically distance, wear masks on buses, get tested if they have COVID like symptoms, stay at home and stay away from others at least until their symptoms have disappeared?

I'm shocked I tell you.... totally shocked! ::)

That awesome "personal responsibility" is working sooooo well.

And, if that isn't bad enough we have a shipful of Covid arriving in Fremantle tomorrow as well. Great.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/queen-elizabeth-cruise-ship-to-dock-in-wa-with-about-200-covid-cases-on-board-c-8987395

Probably be about 400 cases by the time it docks.

Crazy.

Everybody coming back to Perth from Bali by plane has COVID too.

If you absolutely, positively, 100% want to catch COVID, just go to Bali - you're guaranteed to catch it, and then bring it back to Perth.

Took my mother to her GP today for a post-COVID check, and the GP told us two of her patients have died from COVID in the last few days.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 3:42pm

"But they would probably tell you leavers was worth getting COVID for"

Wonder if they will still be saying that in 5 years time and at least 10 more Covid infections?

And if they give Covid to their parents and grandparents, what would they say then?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 12:00pm

And just when we thought things might be improving regarding mask wearing here in Perth.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ermahhgod/status/1597980483123806208

Quote:

Mask Count this evening

Chemist warehouse Innaloo - 1 mask. (ME)

Bunnings Innaloo - 1 mask (ME)

Coles Floreat - 2 customers & 1 staff member

I had no idea that so many ppl want to die, to willingly give their life and future health to COVID.

Can't really blame them though with the almost total lack of information provided by our governments and the media about Covid (except for the "it's over" and "hoping for a short, sharp wave before Christmas" BS).

The next things to be added to the list of "excuses" will no doubt be "But... it's too hot to wear a mask" and "We thought Covid is only a winter 'thing' like the flu".

::)

(I'm going up to IGA in Kooyong Road Rivervale shortly and I'm betting I'll be the only one wearing a mask there - once again).

Edit: Yep, just got back. Wasn't very busy in IGA but, as I predicted, I was the only one in there wearing a mask. But, I did see one other mask being worn - by an elderly gentleman waiting for the 935 bus outside IGA (and it was a high quality one like mine).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 2:42pm

No wonder the majority of the population don't have a clue what's going on with Covid these days.

The attached image is from page 3 of today's The West Australian.

And then on the page 13 Opinion page we have The West's State Political Editor Peter Law with this article:

https://thewest.com.au/opinion/peter-law-consensus-builder-mcgowan-transforms-to-hard-nosed-leader-c-9013031?utm_content=buffer83290&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=the-west-news

Quote:

On reflection, that response was a signal Mark McGowan 2.0 had arrived and I do wonder if his Government would have approached VAD differently — more forcefully — had it been an issue post-COVID.

Unreal. I sometimes wonder how these people sleep at night.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 3:03pm

can we crowd fund you a plane fare to beiijing carl ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 8:01pm

carl wants it badly :D LOL

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 4:58pm

First time I've heard Mark McGowan say the word "Covid" for a long time (the last time was probably when he was still pretending to care about people getting sick and dying before he finally caved in and opened WA's border last March).

COVID WA: WA Premier concerned about fourth COVID wave as cases hit almost 12,000

Quote:

Almost 12,000 new COVID cases and 14 virus-related deaths have been recorded in WA over the past week, with WA Premier Mark McGowan voicing concern over a fourth COVID wave.

Driven by a variety of Omicron sub-variants taking hold in the State, new COVID infections hit 11,762 this week, hospital admissions reached 185 and four people were admitted to ICU.

The deaths reported to WA Health in the past week included people aged from 75 to 96 years and dated back to November 19.

Quote:

WA Premier Mark McGowan on Friday admitted he was concerned by the impact staff furloughing due to COVID infections was having on the State’s health system.

Concerned enough to bring back mandatory masks on public transport and all health care settings for starters, Mark?

I doubt it.

I hope I'm still around in 20 or 30 years (or however long it is) when all of these 'secret' National Cabinet meeting minutes are released for all to see then we might finally find out who's been pulling the pollies' strings and getting them all to take their 'vow of silence' regarding Covid (I could probably have a couple of wild guesses right now and I'm pretty sure I would be right).

Especially the absolute silence about the 16,223 deaths (and counting). And not a single word of condolence for the grieving families from any politician .

But, I'm sure most or all of these documents will be mysteriously 'lost' or find their way into a shredder long before we get a chance to see them.

Quote:

“I just urge people to take precautions, particularly, if you’re working in the health workforce. Take precautions, take care of your health".

Yeah, that's exactly what some of us are trying to do, Mark. But without any more help from your useless government. Which, like the rest of Australia's useless governments is now too afraid to mandate masks and bring back other Covid protections like isolation for positive cases to save lives.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 10:53am

Posted without comment.

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1598609417985220608

Quote:

A friend just landed in Perth and can’t get off the plane. Reason? No staff at the airport, they’re all sick…

Can anyone think of any ways that may have been prevented?

::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 7:49pm

On page 2 of today's The West Australian.

The latest addition to our government's pathetic attempts to make it look like they want people to wear masks (but they really don't, of course).

** Drum roll **

Wear a mask if necessary

WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN???? ::)

Never mind, I'll just add it to:

"Recommended"
"Strongly recommended"
"Encouraged"
~and~
"Strongly encouraged"

Might also include "Please follow this advice" but I think that could be just a Queensland 'thing' for their useless Covid 'Traffic Light' advice.

And, I'm sure that "if necessary" will (not) be adopted by the majority of the population in exactly the same way the others have (not).

Same applies to all of the other "suggestions" in the ad.

But, at least try and remember to keep washing and sanitising your hands regularly, it'll definitely be a great help in dealing with an airborne virus. ::)

Oh, and I picked up 5 more free RAT's at Belmont Forum this morning. Take that, Red Dot (and a few other stores) who have been selling them (or trying to) for $10 each over the past several months.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 1:45pm

First we heard "late November".

Then it was "early December".

Followed by "before Christmas".

And now it's..... "XMAS MARKS COVID PEAK".

Yeah, sure. ::)

Quote:

People needed to take responsibilty for their actions

- CHO Andy Robertson.

;D ;D ;D

Yes, I'm sure everyone's masking up right now after seeing the page 2 ad in yesterday's The West Australian.

"Wear a mask if necessary"

(I'm guessing none of the shoppers I saw at the Rivervale IGA this morning must have read that because the girl on the checkout and I were the only ones wearing a mask).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 2:55pm

carl

that headline from the paper is appalling.

young mum killed in road accident.

a young mum is a living gem, our most precious people.

if we dropped the speed limit to 20 kph, we could end the road toll

i am calling for a zero road toll.

people must be kept safe from selfish people who think only about the economy and getting to work.

thank you so much for bringing this situation to our attention.

let me compose a tweet about how the premier doesnt value young mums lives because he allows this disgraceful speed limit to apply

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 3:42pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 3:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

Yes, the young mum's death is tragic.

But so were the 14 deaths in WA from Covid last week.

Same as the 755 Covid deaths in WA since the border opened last March.

These are also tragic deaths.

Why are all of these deaths not making front page news?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 3:29pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

Just got back from Woolworths.

I was the only person wearing a mask.

I even saw people coming out of the doctors' surgery not wearing a mask.

Idiots.

I have tickets for a concert at RAC Arena tonight, but I'm not going - that's gonna be a super spreader event.

"The State Government has advised that as of 12:01am on Friday 29th April 2022, proof of vaccination and masks are no longer required to enter RAC Arena."

Guess what the name of the band playing tonight is?

The Killers :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 3:58pm

Probably a good idea not to go to that concert, Greg.

I have my cousin and his wife coming up from Secret Harbour to visit us for the first time in about 6 months tomorrow. We're going to meet at Belmont Forum , have a look around then have a bite to eat (or vice versa) but if the food court is full of people I'm not going in there and having to remove my mask to eat. Same goes for my aunt.

We'll find somewhere a bit quieter if it's busy or not bother eating at all.

We're meeting at about 10:30am so hopefully it won't be too busy then. If it's as quiet as it was when I was there yesterday at about 11am we should be OK.

I'm actually more concerned about my aunt when I take her to the Seniors Centre across Wright St. from the Forum to get her hair done at 8am every Wednesday and she seems to be the only one there wearing a mask (and the hairdresser insists she takes it off while having her hair done).

There's usually several other seniors having their hair done at the same time and none of them wear a mask from what I've heard (I don't stay there after I"ve dropped my aunt off). The hairdresser and all of the Senior Centre staff also don't wear masks because "it isn't mandated anymore".

Thank goodness they're closed over Christmas and New Year so that's 2 or (hopefully) 3 weeks where I don't have to worry.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:05pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 3:58pm:

That's crazy, and irresponsible >:(

On a side note, did you just receive that SMS from the police regarding the missing kids?

Doesn't sound good :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:05pm:

On a side note, did you just receive that SMS from the police regarding the missing kids?

Doesn't sound good :-/

Yes, just checked my phone.

4 and 8 years old missing from Jupiter Street, Carlisle since about 8 this morning.

I hope they're found safe and well soon.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:10pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 4:05pm:

On a side note, did you just receive that SMS from the police regarding the missing kids?

Doesn't sound good :-/

Yes, just checked my phone.

4 and 8 years old missing from Jupiter Street, Carlisle since about 8 this morning.

I hope they're found safe and well soon.

Yeah :(

Fingers crossed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 10:42am

Hey, guys - remember this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1609817412/1693#1693

(Ignore the Reggie 'static' below it).

Went to see my GP yesterday to get routine blood tests. He's in the same practice as my aunt's GP. Despite listening to an 'on hold' recorded message saying wearing a (surgical) mask is required when I phoned up to make the appointment last week and a sign on the front door which still says masks (surgical again) are required inside the 3 receptionists (not the same 3 when I took my aunt there last month) were not wearing a mask and one of them had a bad cough and the 'sniffles'.

Once again, hardly any of the GP's I saw going in or out of their rooms were wearing a mask and the ones that were only had surgical 'baggy blues'.

Thank goodness I had a KN95 on, as usual. At least the waiting area wasn't full of maskless patients this time - there was only me and another lady waiting and we both had masks on (but she was only wearing a surgical - better than nothing, I guess?)

Even my own GP had a surgical mask which he only pulled up over his mouth and nose after we went into his room and closed the door.

We're doomed, I tell you... the human race is too stupid to deserve to survive.

Here's a 'snip' from the medical practice's website regarding Covid.

"Updated 18th May 2022"

Quote:

Surgical masks offer better protection against the Omicron variant of COVID-19

I should have asked to see the "medical advice" to back up that claim.

And don't forget to sanitise your hands (yes, they still have the sanitiser on the reception desk and insist on it's use).

The receptionist I spoke to asked me if I had any cold or flu symptoms when I arrived (I resisted the temptation to say "no - but the lady sitting next to you appears to").

Unbelievable.

Oh, and I have to get my blood test this morning at a place across from Belmont Forum - couldn't get it at the pathology place near my GP yesterday because I need to fast for 12 hours and I hadn't eaten for about 15. Wish they'd told me that when I made the appointment last Friday.

So, all up it cost me $50.25 ($90.00 fee minus $39.75 back from Medicare) to go to my GP for a 10 minute chat and pick up a blood test form. I should have been a doctor (or a dentist).

I wonder how many masks (apart from mine) I'll see at the pathology place when I get the blood test in about an hour?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by reggie1963 on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 11:33am

Mask dont work so hopefully you get infected and leave this planet.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:19pm

reggie1963 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 11:33am:

~~Mask dont work so hopefully you get infected and leave this planet.~~

Carl D wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 10:42am:

I wonder how many masks (apart from mine) I'll see at the pathology place when I get the blood test in about an hour?

Well, that was a pleasant surprise... the only people (that I could see) at the pathology place when I went there this morning were the two staff and they were both wearing high quality masks the same as I was.

Perhaps there's hope for the human race after all?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 3:29pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

when everybody else is behaving differently, the usual thought process should be

'why am i such a weirdo" ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

when everybody else is behaving differently, the usual thought process should be

'why am i such a weirdo" ::)

"When the whole world is running towards a cliff, he who is running in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind".

C. S. Lewis

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:41pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

when everybody else is behaving differently, the usual thought process should be

'why am i such a weirdo" ::)

"When the whole world is running towards a cliff, he who is running in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind".

C. S. Lewis

the most likely thing is that he has lost his mind ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:48am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:48am

Lots of these "mystery" illnesses going around at the moment.

West Coast Eagles superstar Nic Naitanui returns to training after mystery illness

Quote:

West Coast say superstar Nic Naitanui returned to training this morning after a mystery illness laid him up for more than a week.

Quote:

(West Coast football manager Gavin Bell) would not reveal what Naitanui was suffering from, with COVID-19 rampant in the community in the lead-up to Christmas.

Go on, Gavin... have a wild guess. ::)

Wonder if it was the same "mystery illness" that "wiped out" the Mary Poppins cast at the Queensland Performing Arts Centre last weekend? :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:49am

In what insane, twisted reality is this even remotely acceptable?

https://mobile.twitter.com/EMacskasy/status/1602915552280051713

Quote:

I went into Fremantle Hospital this morning for eye surgery. I had my N95 on as always. I noted many other patients and some staff not wearing masks or wearing them below the nose.
I was assured that all staff wore masks in the clinical areas.

My concern was that I would not be able to replace my mask following surgery as I would be anesthetised.
I expressed my concern to the nurse in charge of the pre operative ward.
The anesthetist's assistant came to speak to me wearing his mask below his nose.

When I mentioned my concern to him, he pulled his mask even lower and leant in to assure me he would be in the operating room and "it should be ok".

I had to ask him to pull his mask back up and back away.
My confidence was at an all time low by this point. I counted 9 orderlies wandering around maskless in the pre-operative and surrounding area. I cancelled the procedure and left.
I have gotten this far without contracting Covid and have no intention of putting myself at risk now. The operation can wait a couple of years or so.

Someone working at Fremantle hospital let slip that Freo hospital is "rife with covid at the moment".
What hope is there when even a hospital cannot successfully mask up around patients.

No hope at all when masks are not worn properly (or at all) even in hospitals because "they're not mandated anymore".

There seemed to be a few more people than usual wearing masks at Belmont Forum yesterday but it wouldn't have been more than about 10% of all those I saw in the 2 hours I was there.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 11:47am

Midland Hospital too, apparently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_marching_Ents_/status/1603003378891735043

"How about a comment Andrew?"

Fat chance. He's under the same "Cone of Silence" as all of the pollies are regarding Covid.

People should NOT be going into hospital and catching Covid. Especially vulnerable patients. Full stop.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:03pm

hi carl.

you need to trust the science.

the chief health officer of qld, Dr gerard said he was very happy to relinquish his emergency powers and that he expects each succeeding wave of covid to be of lesser concern and that qld was now 'totally committed' to "living with covid"

he is a very smart scientist carl and people like you need to trust the science and stop being conspiracy theorists

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ColinKinner/status/1602976957569806336

"I need to update his greatest hits"

Quote:

A compilation of Queensland CHO Dr John Gerrard’s greatest hits:
🦠 COVID is Mild
🦠 Wall of Immunity
🦠 Kids Don’t Get Sick
🦠 Waves Getting Milder
🦠 Endemic Any Day Now
and the all-time favourite:
🦠 It’s Inevitable and Necessary

And...

https://mobile.twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1602930206490365954

"Any time now..." (that's sarcasm by Dr. Berger, by the way).

"Dr." John Gerrard is a dangerous psychopath in my opinion - and I'm not the only one who believes that.

Anyway... does anyone believe it is even remotely acceptable that people (especially vulnerable patients) should be at high risk of catching Covid in a hospital?

Or in any healthcare setting?

Unless of course the "plan" is to kill off as many vulnerable and elderly people as possible to save money on pensions and health costs (I and many others still believe that's the "plan").

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

he is a very smart scientist carl and people like you need to trust the science and stop being conspiracy theorists

Care to explain the "science" behind the part I've highlighted in yellow below?

The Science of Hopium? ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:28pm

Soon to be updated to "mystery illness", I'm sure.

Hence the screenshot.

NBL: Perth Wildcats’ clash with New Zealand postponed due to COVID outbreak at Breakers

Quote:

Perth’s much-anticipated home clash with New Zealand on Friday has been postponed after the Breakers were unable to sport a line-up due to a COVID outbreak among the team.

The second-placed Breakers had been scheduled to fly to WA on Thursday, but cancelled the trip. It is understood at least a handful of players have tested positive to the virus.

If it had been the Wildcats I'm sure it would have been a "mystery illness" right from the start with no mention of Covid.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 10:46am

Carl D wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:49am:

In what insane, twisted reality is this even remotely acceptable?

https://mobile.twitter.com/EMacskasy/status/1602915552280051713

I went into Fremantle Hospital this morning for eye surgery. I had my N95 on as always. I noted many other patients and some staff not wearing masks or wearing them below the nose.
I was assured that all staff wore masks in the clinical areas.

My concern was that I would not be able to replace my mask following surgery as I would be anesthetised.
I expressed my concern to the nurse in charge of the pre operative ward.
The anesthetist's assistant came to speak to me wearing his mask below his nose.

When I mentioned my concern to him, he pulled his mask even lower and leant in to assure me he would be in the operating room and "it should be ok".

I had to ask him to pull his mask back up and back away.
My confidence was at an all time low by this point. I counted 9 orderlies wandering around maskless in the pre-operative and surrounding area. I cancelled the procedure and left.
I have gotten this far without contracting Covid and have no intention of putting myself at risk now. The operation can wait a couple of years or so.

Someone working at Fremantle hospital let slip that Freo hospital is "rife with covid at the moment".
What hope is there when even a hospital cannot successfully mask up around patients.

Update.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EMacskasy/status/1603644224460959744

Quote:

Today I sent a detailed complaint to my State MP and to the WA Minister for Health. I will be interested to get their response.
In the event that both of them "blow me off", I have the second phase ready to go. Will keep you informed. Might take a month or so.

Definitely won't hear anything back before Christmas I'm sure and if he does eventually get a response I'm betting it'll be more "we are following the health advice" BS.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 11:06am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Actually, you do have a point there.

Sue has it all worked out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SMpwrgr/status/1605585985383059456

Quote:

I just realised something 🤔

QLD CHO has been most honest & forthright about Aus govt’s quiet pro infection strategy

All along he said it’s inevitable & necessary for all to be infected

Quote:

It’s probably why he was always excited about it - he bought the lemon that is the disastrous Omicron pro infection strategy - hook, line and sinker

We thought he was worse than the rest but it turns out he was just more transparent.

Nat Cab = QLD CHO all along.

Quote:

And the reason Labor Premiers all backflipped from protective to let it rip?

Not some nefarious hold Morrison had over them behind closed doors. It was the Omicron pro infection strategy they all embraced

Infect us all & end Covid

Except it was a 🍋 & they won’t admit it

Quote:

OMG that’s why Albo/Labor haven’t changed anything

They are all convinced by, wedded to this completely flawed pro infection strategy

which sentences us all to unrelenting destructive reinfections which destroy our immune systems, chronically disable & kill us 😟

Quote:

Once you look at things through a fatally flawed pro infection strategy lens …

… everything makes sense 🤯

Quote:

All that mixed messaging

from them encouraging masks by word but not by action

to them saying one thing then getting “experts for hire” (all pro infection lemons 🍋) to undermine it

is because what they really want is for us all to get infected, even when they say the opposite

Yes, it really does make sense now. "Dr." Gerrard has just been saying out loud what the PM and the State Premiers have been "thinking" all along.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 5:09pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 11:06am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Actually, you do have a point there.

Sue has it all worked out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SMpwrgr/status/1605585985383059456

Quote:

I just realised something 🤔

QLD CHO has been most honest & forthright about Aus govt’s quiet pro infection strategy

All along he said it’s inevitable & necessary for all to be infected

[quote]It’s probably why he was always excited about it - he bought the lemon that is the disastrous Omicron pro infection strategy - hook, line and sinker

We thought he was worse than the rest but it turns out he was just more transparent.

Nat Cab = QLD CHO all along.

Quote:

Once you look at things through a fatally flawed pro infection strategy lens …

… everything makes sense 🤯

Quote:

Yes, it really does make sense now. "Dr." Gerrard has just been saying out loud what the PM and the State Premiers have been "thinking" all along.

[/quote]

sentences us all to unrelenting destructive reinfections which destroy our immune systems, chronically disable & kill us 😟????
they are a threat to people who have not taken personal responsibility for their health.
thats for sure.

thankfully, carl has been following the excellent advice of the scooter and has lost weight, hit the gym, done a few 1/2 marathons, been out in nature, improved his biome and done ice baths to the point his immune system can easily beat a mild respiratory virus.

one does hope carl has not relied on 5 doses of a fairly useless vaccine.

that would be a great strategy for pfizer but not so good for carl

he wouldnt be that stupid after having 3 years to improve his health, surely.

surely he doesnt think health can be earnt so easily by just rolling up his sleeve.

if he wants to be healthy by rolling up his sleeve, he should roll up his sleeves and do 8 hours of hard physical work and build an awesome heart and lung system

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 8:42pm

Anyone going to Optus Stadium on March 12th to see Ed Sheeran live?

You can't buy a ticket unless you agree not to sue them if you get Covid while you're at the concert.

https://mobile.twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1612012707435384832

Quote:

Looby Lou
@loobylouwales
·
Jan 8
Replying to
@loobylouwales
Maybe we should let Frontier Touring run our public health response as they seem much more forthright and science-based in their covid comms.

Sounds like a plan, Louisa. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by AusGeoff on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 9:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 5:09pm:

...Thankfully, Carl has been following the excellent advice of the scooter and has lost weight, hit the gym, done a few 1/2 marathons, been out in nature, improved his biome and done ice baths to the point his immune system can easily beat a mild respiratory virus.

None of these activities, alone or together, will prevent you from contracting
the SARS-CoV-2 virus. What they probably will do is improve your stamina
and recovery abilities, prevent more serious viral side effects, and keep you
out of hospital.

And again, SARS-CoV-2 is NOT a "mild respiratory virus". It doesn't matter
how many times you assert this, it's simply untrue. I don't know whether you're
trying to fool us... or yourself? Either way, you're wasting your time. Sorry.

COVID has already killed more than 6,714,250 people globally, and more than
17,320 in Australia.

Today there were 3,373 new cases reported here, with 135,523 currently active
cases, so it's obvious COVID is not going away.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 11:05pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 9:07pm:

And again, SARS-CoV-2 is NOT a "mild respiratory virus". It doesn't matter
how many times you assert this, it's simply untrue. I don't know whether you're
trying to fool us... or yourself? Either way, you're wasting your time. Sorry.

Exactly, Geoff.

First time I've ever heard of having to 'sign a waver' when purchasing tickets to a stadium concert regarding the possibility of getting a "mild respiratory virus" .

That's never happened for the flu before as far as I'm aware.

Care to comment on that one, aqua?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:19pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:20pm

Just got back from the Kooyong Rd. IGA.

Front page of today's The Sunday Times.

Yes, very tragic and my condolences to the girl's family and friends.

But, no acknowledgement of the 11 WA Covid deaths reported last week or condolences for their families in the paper, of course.

Or for any of the families of the 922 West Australian people killed by Covid since WA's border opened last March.

Or the 213 Covid deaths reported last week for all of Australia.

Or the 1,799 Australian deaths since the start of this year and 18,828 since the start of the pandemic.

What a sick, twisted world we're living in.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:37pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

But on the flip side: "Mental Health Checks For Gun Owners" [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:37pm:

But on the flip side: "Mental Health Checks For Gun Owners" [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Ah, and about time, too. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Actually, I felt a little disturbed about my last post and I was thinking about deleting it, especially after seeing your thread about the shark attack on the General Board, Greg.

But I'd just like to clarify that I'm not trying to minimise or mock the shark tragedy by making a comparison to the Covid deaths and, like everyone else I'm shocked and saddened by the girl's death.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 2:11pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:37pm:

But on the flip side: "Mental Health Checks For Gun Owners" [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Not the sociopaths among us.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1675557947/9#9

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 2:19pm

Indeed, just when you think he can't get any lower he always manages to rise to the occasion.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 2:34pm

Some more good news:

COVID-breaching New Year's Eve party at The George bar in Perth sees organiser found guilty

The organiser of a "secret" New Year's Eve party at a Perth bar has been found guilty of breaching COVID-19 restrictions by allowing partygoers to dance and drink standing up while trying to hide what was happening from police.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

Good to see, Greg. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I had to go to North Perth this morning to pick up a couple of scripts for my aunt's tablets and eyedrops.

Didn't feel like driving so I went on the bus - 2 buses actually. The 935 from Rivervale to the Causeway bus station and then the 960 from there to North Perth.

I was disappointed to see no more than about 10 masks during my trip there and back. That includes all of the people I saw in the city between the Causeway and the Wellington St. underground bus station and from there to North Perth.

Bonus points for the single Coles employee I saw wearing a mask in North Perth Plaza but no points awarded for the lady with the surgical 'baggy blue' under her chin on the 960 bus back into Perth (looked like she was asleep, actually).

Oh, and the 3 receptionists where my aunt and I go to see our GP's are still not wearing masks. At least none of them seemed to be hacking up a lung today unlike when I was there in early December.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 4:15pm

Has anyone noticed that Panadol Extra tablets haven't been available for the past few months? At least they haven't here in Perth.

Coles... Woolies... IGA... pharmacies... no one has any at the moment. There's quite a few 'regular' Panadols and other brands on the shelves but no Panadol Extra. I asked a lady at one of the Belmont Forum chemists about it on Saturday and she said they're sold out everywhere and the stores are waiting for new stocks to arrive.

Looks like people have been hoarding them because they're stronger than regular Panadol probably because they have caffeine in them as well as paracetamol.

I remember the Australian Chief Medical Officer or his deputy advising everyone last year to stock up on Panadol to help with dealing with Covid infections so, just like toilet paper 3 years ago everyone has panicked and bought as many as they can.

Now... here's the funny thing. There are no Panadol Extra tablets to be found anywhere at the moment but there are plenty of Nyal "Paracetamol PLUS Caffeine" tablets on the store shelves.

If people took the time to read the Nyal box they would (should?) see that they're exactly the same as Panadol Extra, even the tablets are the same size and shape.

Paracetamol 500 mg
Caffeine 65 mg

Same thing happened a year or two back when everyone was being advised to stock up on Panadol... a lady went into a local chemist and there wasn't a single box of Panadol of any kind on the shelves but right next to the empty spaces where the Panadols used to be were boxes and boxes of Panamax tablets.

People really are funny (and stupid) these days. ;D ;D ;D

When I get the occasional headache (which tends to happen a bit more during the colder months) I've found that Panadol Extra and now the Nyal tablets are the most effective in dealing with it for me which is why I like to keep some handy.

The Panadol Extra box in the attached picture is the larger 40 tablet box which I bought from a chemist a few months back while they still had some after the supermarkets had all sold out, the ones sold in the supermarkets are usually the 20 tablet boxes.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Xavier on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:11pm

Perth, Western Australia.

The only place on earth where the rest of the country wants to push them to go 'independent' because they really are in a world of their own. ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:30pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Carl, if Nail were here, he'd point out the fact that this so-called "shark attack" is highly suspicious.

This poor girl was doing fine before she got her poison dart, dear.

Questions questions, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:44pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

Hi Carl.

If our WA friends headed off to the gym, took a few supplements - zinc, vitamin D, HQL - enjoyed a diet of nutritious raw veges and practiced "personal responsibility" over their despicable chode lifestyles, they wouldn't need masks. They could just get on with life being basically awesome.

Instead, they're a "cautionary tale".

Worth studying.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:17am

Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:44pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

thats pretty solid advice

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

;D ;D ;D and >:( >:( >:(

"guilty of breaching COVID-19 restrictions by allowing partygoers to dance and drink standing up"

The ****ing lunacy of some of those restrictions and 'expert' directives. The problem with Australians isn’t that so many of them are descended from convicts, Clive James once said, but that so many are descended from prison officers.
Like Bbwian, Carl, gweggy turd.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

My father was a bus driver in the UK and I'm pretty sure he wasn't decended from convicts or prison officers.

Oh, and idiots like those at that New Years Eve party who were deliberately ignoring Covid restrictions (protections, actually) is a large part of the reason why we're in the Covid mess that we're in today.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am

Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:44pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

thats pretty solid advice

Have you given any thought as to why Matty posted that?

Nope, I didn't think so.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:37am

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

If it's good enough for one, it's good enough for all.

No matter what you think of that particular law, he knowingly and willingly broke it.

Not acceptable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Frank on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:47am

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was
their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of
the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party
intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he
would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the
right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the
true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid
world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet,
objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre. With the feeling that
he was speaking to O'Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important
axiom, he wrote:

Freedom's is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is
granted, all else follows.

1984

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 12:36pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 2:34pm:

why is that carl?
if people didnt attend parties, the virus would have just disappeared?

after all, as dan andrews said

"this all disappears when we get enough jabs in arms"

are you calling dan a liar ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:44pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

thats pretty solid advice

Have you given any thought as to why Matty posted that?

Nope, I didn't think so.

matty posted solid advice, couldnt have said it much better myself.

when the vaccine is a failure and politicians dont care about you, its good that we have personal responsibility to fall back on.

but, of course, everyone over the age of 15 takes personal responsibility for themselves surely?
they dont want to remain in nappies indefinitely.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 12:39pm:

matty posted solid advice, couldnt have said it much better myself.

Does this help you?

:)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

Did Dan say that before Delta and Omicron appeared? I believe he did.

So, I'm not calling Dan a liar and really have no reason to but I am calling you silly for posting the part that I've highlighted.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:20pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 12:39pm:

matty posted solid advice, couldnt have said it much better myself.

Does this help you?

:)

nothing could increase my core confidence more, then you and matty criticising my reasoning

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:25pm

This is a follow up to my post from yesterday.

Went to Coles at Belmont Forum this morning... while I was there I noticed they'd finally got some more Panadol Extra on the shelves (20 per pack).

They're selling them now for $7.50 a pack.

Last time they had some (months ago) they were $7.20 a pack and they'd even been as low as $6.20 and even $5.80 a pack occasionally.

Greedy b@stards!!

(Meanwhile, the Nyal tablets which are exactly the same as Panadol Extra are still selling for $6 per pack of 20 at Woolworths - I noticed Coles didn't have any of those but Woolies had plenty). ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:38pm

hi carl

i can honestly say i dont think i have had a panadol in the last decade.

you would be better off buying green vegetables, a gym membership and some salmon.

panadol is a liver poison and a band aid therapy.

it lowers your temperature.

a higher temperature is what your immune system likes when it is being awesome and waging war on a bug.

you are going against nature and hindering your immune response .

when you go against mother nature you lose, but only 100 % of the time

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:48pm

In NSW, it's 14, Aquascoot - the age of medical consent.

Now, I don't know about you, dear, but a lot of 14 year olds are not very responsible. They usually have parents to cook and clean up after them.

I know, I know, chodes, the lot of them, but what can you do?

I'm sure that by 14, most stallions are hitting old age. Not we silly old homo sapiens.

Lives of pure garbage, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:24pm

He's taking the piss again aqua in case you're not sure.

;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:45pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:45pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:45pm

All I want to know is:

WHEN DO THE LAWSUITS START?

https://twitter.com/amandameyerphd/status/1622473969411706881

Quote:

My Nanna got COVID in RPH and died! Admitted because she had a fall. 🤬 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

RPH is Royal Perth Hospital for those who don't know.

And Amanda's Nanna isn't the only one.

https://twitter.com/VetMedCorner/status/1622803323131924480

Quote:

My grandmother also got covid while in the hospital and she also died from it. I am angry that society thinks this is acceptable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 4:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

Depends which Panadol, Aquascoot. Panadol for muscle pain or extra-strength Panadol for headaches? I think they have it for colds as well.

You need to read the label, dear. It might be a bit more expensive, but it's always good to get the right medicine.

People who just tell you to take a powder need to be more specific. Always check with the chemist first, okay?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:17pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:45pm:

All I want to know is:

WHEN DO THE LAWSUITS START?

https://twitter.com/amandameyerphd/status/1622473969411706881

Quote:

My Nanna got COVID in RPH and died! Admitted because she had a fall. 🤬 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

RPH is Royal Perth Hospital for those who don't know.

And Amanda's Nanna isn't the only one.

https://twitter.com/VetMedCorner/status/1622803323131924480

[quote]My grandmother also got covid while in the hospital and she also died from it. I am angry that society thinks this is acceptable.

And they're not the only ones.

NO ONE SHOULD BE GOING TO A HOSPITAL OR ANY MEDICAL SETTING AND CATCHING COVID THERE AND DYING. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.

And, can anyone give me ONE GOOD REASON why (high quality) masks are not mandated in hospitals and medical settings around Australia? And air quality control (air purifiers)?

Because I can't think of any right now - other than the removal of compulsory masks in all of these places (and public transport) is a deliberate attempt by our governments to kill off as many elderly and vulnerable people as possible to save money on pensions and healthcare costs.

Anyone?[/quote]

hi carl

from the NSW government website

Healthcare Associated Infections
There are around 165,000 healthcare associated infections (HAIs) in Australian health facilities each year, making them the most common complication affecting patients in hospital.

carl wanted people sued .
165,000 of them

you better build a big jail :'( :'(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:26pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:45pm:

All I want to know is:

WHEN DO THE LAWSUITS START?

https://twitter.com/amandameyerphd/status/1622473969411706881

Quote:

My Nanna got COVID in RPH and died! Admitted because she had a fall. 🤬 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

And they're not the only ones.

NO ONE SHOULD BE GOING TO A HOSPITAL OR ANY MEDICAL SETTING AND CATCHING COVID THERE AND DYING. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.

And, can anyone give me ONE GOOD REASON why (high quality) masks are not mandated in hospitals and medical settings around Australia? And air quality control (air purifiers)?

Because I can't think of any right now - other than the removal of compulsory masks in all of these places (and public transport) is a deliberate attempt by our governments to kill off as many elderly and vulnerable people as possible to save money on pensions and healthcare costs.

Anyone?[/quote]

My mother also caught COVID in RPH, admitted after she had a fall too.

She came within minutes of dying, but thankfully she pulled through.

I remember posting here and telling everyone that many patients in RPH were catching COVID in the wards.

Do NOT send your elderly parents/grandparents to RPH or Fiona Stanley if you can at all help it - COVID is everywhere in those hospitals.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:27pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 2:38pm:

i dont think of panadol as a medicine
a 'medicine' should be taken for a period of time to cure a "disease'

most things people take arent curing anything.
they are controlling symptoms

cholesterol tablets instead of a diet of green veges
blood pressure tablets instead of exercise and weight loss
diabetic tablets instead of healthy dietary choices.
anti depressants which soon wear off instead of constructing an awesome mental state
panadol or stronger tablets for headaches instead of learning strategies to remain calm and reduce tension
benzos (highly addictive) instead of breathing exercises

they arent medicines so much as short cuts to reduce symptoms that have nothing to do with health.

in traditional chinese medicine , the doctor with the least patients is seen as the superior doctor because his patients dont need him

in australia, people see busy doctors as superior (he must be good, he has a lot of patients).

we run a sick care system, not a health care system

hospitals know nothing about health
they even have a policy of giving obese diabetics desserts and biscuits for mornign and afternoon tea because to not do so is seen as discriminatory.

big pharma and the medical industry want you sick the way clubs want you on the pokies. they are run for their benefit.

i would even say from a pyschological point of view, taking panadol is convincing your sybconscious you are "not well" and that is a "self fulfilling prophesy"

taking tablets convinces the brain

"oh, there is this drug in my system, i must be sick, better get on with creating the symptoms to manifest my chemical environment "

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:31pm

That's the "evolutionary blowtorch" at work, Greggery. We need to respect its awesome power.

I'd be advising my grandmother to eat less Maccas, take her hydroxychloraquine and go to the gym, but that's just me.

You?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:17pm:

hi carl

from the NSW government website

Healthcare Associated Infections
There are around 165,000 healthcare associated infections (HAIs) in Australian health facilities each year, making them the most common complication affecting patients in hospital.

carl wanted people sued .
165,000 of them

you better build a big jail :'( :'(

And of those 165,000 infections how many of them were caused by the unmitigated spread of a known Level 3 Biohazard , the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus and how many deaths have resulted from it so far?

I've already posted 2. I believe there are many more (and counting) Australia wide.

Also...

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1622852327886712833

Quote:

"patient safety"
"clinical excellence"

I count three masks in that overcrowded room. 🤦‍♂️

It's really hard not to despair sometimes.

Yes.

And...

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1622726036327727106

Quote:

The present attitude towards hospital acquired COVID. 30% rate in England. God knows what it is in Australia. We don't seem to measure it.

Shocking and negligent.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm

my wifes ward has been running understaffed for most of the past 2 years.
it has a devestating effect on morale.

one of the number one complaints during the mask mandates was the feeling of suffocation wearing an N95 all day at work

sickies among nurses dropped off when wards stopped the mask mandates.

you have a choice of being treated by staff who are doing a brutally taxing job and give up on the masks and let them have a little bit of comfort

or you can have a hospital with no nurses as people have sickies because they are over it.

your call .

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

when did i say to take hydroxy ??

and yes, a grandmother would be orders of magnitude better off at a gym then a hospital

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:04pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

So, don't they have breaks occasionally in a place where they can safely remove the masks for a while?

Like outside somewhere?

Oh, that's right - they probably don't have time for any breaks these days due to years (decades?) of government cost cutting in the hospital and healthcare systems which has now been made worse with the large number of staff who are constantly off sick with Covid.

And all of this is happening while many elderly patients are going into hospital, catching Covid and becoming seriously ill or dying.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:20pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

an outsider would think that is the case.

but its not.

so much funding was spent on covid that cutbacks are now happening

if someone is sick, they arent replaced.
no agency nurses at all.
a lot of my wifes colleagues do RAT tests , hoping desperately they are positive (these women are assymptomatic) so they can have 7 days to redt from the brutal workload , nothing to do with covid .
again, not replaced. the rest are short staffed by their absence and this makes it worse

as to having breaks, its a lot worse then that.
patients arent showered ,
they arent supervised
they have falls.

my impression is the hospital system in qld is on the verge of collapse.

palachook is borrowing heavily to have a large part of admissions done in private hosptials (for public patients) with the state health picking up the bill.

and not just for cataracts and gallbladders (which has been going on for years) but for acute stuff like appendixes and pneumonias,

driven from a public hospital casualty to a private hospital.

things are very bad.

i would be talking to nurses and seeing what can be done to entice them back.
certainly, sticking them in sticky gows and N95 and face shields and gloves and having them lift 150 kg patients out of bed and into a steamy shower is probably not a good idea if you want any staff to turn up.

if people would just remain mobile and a manageable weight, it would make my wifes job so much easier.
if they would give up the junk food and hit the gym so they have the strength to go to the toilet and not crap the bed 3 x a day, they might attract more staff.
this would require personal responsibility.

so, i'm afraid the bad news is, that fairly shortly you can call an ambulance and they may well say

"sorry we have nowhere to take you"
its getting that bad

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

when did i say to take hydroxy ??

and yes, a grandmother would be orders of magnitude better off at a gym then a hospital

Sorry, Aquascoot, Ivermectin.

The Superior Man uses a range of off-label medications. It keeps big pharma on its toes.

As does prayer.

Allah Uakbar, no?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Those theatre nurses must have it tough. What's the union doing?

I'd be organising a stop work meeting and downing tools immediately, but that's just me.

You?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:09pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

They seem to have enough time to steal their patients' medication, Carl.

Typical.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:20pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Hence the extra heart attacks, Aquascoot.

Oh, the anti-vaxxers will try to convince you otherwise, but Mrs Scoot knows where its at.

If you want the good oil, hit up the workers on smoko, no?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:29pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

when did i say to take hydroxy ??

and yes, a grandmother would be orders of magnitude better off at a gym then a hospital

Sorry, Aquascoot, Ivermectin.

The Superior Man uses a range of off-label medications. It keeps big pharma on its toes.

As does prayer.

Allah Uakbar, no?

why on earth would i use ivermectin?
but if people are going to feel compelled to take a pharmaceutical to ward off covid, they might as well take something that has been given to billions of people with virtually no side effects.

rather then an experimental technology that costs billions.

personally, i am happy ot rely on personal responsiblity with regards my health.
i think hospitals should be avoided as they are a health hazard.

they are fine for a car accident or a broken bone or a snakebite and i would be the first to call an ambulance for those

but for treatment of chronic diseases (what 99 % of people "suffer" from), they are all but useless.
in fact they may do more harm then good

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:33pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Those theatre nurses must have it tough. What's the union doing?

I'd be organising a stop work meeting and downing tools immediately, but that's just me.

You?

lovely air conditioned operating theatre and the heaviest thing you lift is a 100 gram pair of forceps.

now try lifting a 150 kg patient by yourself when they have crapped the bed for the third time because they are too immobile to use a toilet and then showering them in a hot sticky shower whilst mving them from a wheelchair to a shower chair , all the time getting covered in feces and possibly assaulted because the dirty old fat sloppy individual thinks he can have a feel as you undress him.

you wouldnt last 1 shift ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 13^th, 2023 at 9:44am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 5:31pm:

when did i say to take hydroxy ??

and yes, a grandmother would be orders of magnitude better off at a gym then a hospital

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 13^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

Nearly had a heart attack when I saw this on page 7 of today's The West Australian.

I thought "don't tell me we are finally going to see some truth in the paper about how Covid damages the heart, lungs, brain and other organs, especially after multiple infections".

But, no... just when I think the media cannot get any worse with their Covid denial BS they come up with this.

Freaking unbelievable.

Edit: And again... when do the lawsuits start?

https://twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1624963013584519168

Quote:

Less than two weeks into the school year and my daughter has COVID. Again.
The rage I feel at our useless government and health officials for refusing to make schools safe is incandescent.

(Louisa lives here in Perth, by the way).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Feb 19^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

Went up to Bunnings at Belmont this morning.

It was very busy... and I was the only one there wearing a mask as far as I could see.

Went to the Rivervale Kooyong Rd. IGA after that to do a bit of shopping. Also very busy... and I was the only one wearing a mask there too as far as I could see.

That awesome "personal responsibility" and "assess your own risk" on display once again. ::)

Saw this letter in today's The Sunday Times. I'm still wondering how it got published since I'm sure that hundreds or even thousands of similar letters to the newspapers have probably been 'binned' since Australia's official Covid 'policy' became "Let it Rip".

I'm also wondering how many people will actually read the letter and take notice? My guess: ZERO.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 1^st, 2023 at 5:19pm

Wow, for a moment there I thought the Western Australian government had finally seen the light. :o

WA Dept. of Health

https://twitter.com/WADeptHealth/status/1630316087656022016

Quote:

People with long COVID can have a variety of symptoms for days, months or years after infection. Preventing COVID-19 infection is the best way to prevent long COVID.

Quote:

Protect yourself and others from COVID-19 by washing your hands, wearing masks in crowds, staying home when sick, and getting the recommended vaccine and booster doses. Learn more: http://VaccinateWA.org

But, alas, it's the Washington State Department of Health. :-[

(I should have known better after seeing the usual maybe 1 in 100 people wearing a mask at Belmont Forum earlier today and hearing the usual 'chorus' of sneezing and spicy coughs throughout the shopping centre). ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 8^th, 2023 at 10:21pm

Saw a post on Twitter yesterday where someone noticed quite a few staff were wearing masks at a Coles supermarket here in Perth on Monday (they didn't say which suburb).

The poster said it was good to see so many masks and hoped it would be the start of an upward trend until someone pointed out that it was probably because the mask wearing staff were sick with Covid but they didn't want to stay home and miss out on the extra pay for their Monday shift (Monday was a public holiday here in WA).

I'd have to agree - especially when I never see any of the staff at the Coles in Belmont Forum wearing masks when I'm there (like today).

I wasn't there on Monday to see if any of the staff were wearing masks but I might have to take a look during Easter.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 12:57pm

hi carl

dont spend significant time on insignificant things

covid is over.
the hospitals dont give a toss about it
they dont even test for it routinely.

so instead of going on the prowl to look at mask usage, why dont you go on the prowl to look at how many people are in the food court, chowing down on coca cola, pizza and KFC.

much more significant issue in terms of health.

mask = token gesture

good food = life changing health initiative.

time for a course correction.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 1:05pm

Hey carl. No-dose vs A-dose. What do you see ?? You and your aunty are represented by the green line ;) And you still want to argue the toss :D LOL

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 5:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

covid is over.
the hospitals dont give a toss about it
they dont even test for it routinely.

New COVID-19 wave likely underway in NSW, weekly surveillance report shows

Quote:

The next wave of COVID transmission may be underway in NSW, new data indicates.

There were 6,941 people diagnosed across the state in the week ending March 4, the latest weekly surveillance report showed, an 8.6 per cent increase over the previous week.

Together with an increase in the number of people with COVID going to emergency departments who needed to be admitted, the numbers were "likely to mark the beginning of new wave in transmission", the report noted.

And, where NSW 'leads' I'm sure the rest of Australia will follow... we'll find out tomorrow with the release of the other States' weekly numbers.

Won't be long before we'll be hearing that this will be just a "short, sharp wave before Easter" (just like the one before last Christmas - and over 2000 Australians have died from Covid since then).

Oh, and...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Also, Sir Nail - please take note.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 8:01pm

If anyone still needs proof of the (deliberate) failure of public health messaging from our governments look no further than Optus Stadium here in Perth tonight.

This will be a massive Covid superspreader event, no doubt.

Ed Sheeran Perth: Fans from every corner of globe descend on Optus Stadium

(Paywalled as usual but you get the idea)

75,000 fans jammed into Optus Stadium, not to mention the fact that a lot of them will also be jammed like sardines in the buses and trains before and after the concert.

And there won't be a single mask in sight, I bet.

The concert is due to start 2 hours from now.

Stand by for a massive increase in WA Covid cases, hospitalisations and (sadly) deaths over the coming weeks and months.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 8:18pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

...Covid is over.

Not so at all mate.

Over the past week, 19,338 new cases of COVID were reported
across Australia—an average of 2,763 cases per day.

This is an increase of 11.6% in NSW, and an increase of 9.4% in Victoria.

[Australian Department of Health and Aged Care, 10 March 2023.]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 8:30pm

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 8:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

...Covid is over.

So, aquascoot is a proven liar.

Once again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 1:00am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 1:00am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 1:00am

Oh, dear.

https://twitter.com/lyndalpn/status/1634684995863465984

Quote:

Meanwhile in Australia ….
Between huge stadium concerts & World Pride, the past few weeks have apparently seen the largest crowds since Sydney 2000 Olympics.
A quick key word search of Twitter this morning 🫤 Are we at all surprised the next wave is starting?

And we'll be seeing the same thing here in Perth very soon after the Ed Sheeran concert at Optus Stadium Sunday evening.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 9^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

covid is over.

Sure doesn't look like it's over to me?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:17am

jesus geoff, up at midnight, whipping yourself into an anxiety state over covid.

wow.

thats about the worst thing you can do for your immune system

you are flooding your immune cells with cortisol and adrenaline when they should be resting.

anxiety at midnight = increased cancer, infections and heart disease.

try to do some meditation to reduce your death anxiety.

this covid panic is becoming a self fulfilling prophesy

when you do get it your little soldiers (your lymphocytes0 will be so weakened that this mild respiratory virus will demolish you.

hit the gym and get stronger .

i know gyms were closed and people were just hitting dunking donuts, but seriously, be a good boy scout and prepare by getting fit.

you will get it at some stage and 7 boosters wont work.
its everywhere from the top of everst to antarctica.

i will get the excellent scientist dr gerrard to ring you with some advice.

believe the science.
believe dr gerrard
believe aquascoot.

there is still time

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 8:02am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

jesus geoff, up at midnight, whipping yourself into an anxiety state over covid.

Huh? Geoff's post was made at 6:18pm Perth time which, according to my calculations would have been 9:18pm in Victoria.

Perhaps you are referring to my post which I made at 11:00pm Perth time?

Looks like you're getting a bit confused there - as usual.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

i will get the excellent scientist dr gerrard to ring you with some advice.

believe the science.
believe dr gerrard
believe aquascoot.

there is still time

;D ;D ;D

Yep, you're definitely confused. Or deranged. Or both.

I take it you know where the attached picture comes from?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 13^th, 2023 at 10:32am

Carl or Jeff it's all the same to me

Dr Gerard
Highly esteemed chief health officer

Obviously more of a scientist than Carl or Jeff

Do you only follow the scientific advice when it suits

That's not very scientific ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 10:48am

Won't be long now...

https://twitter.com/drstip/status/1635247609848942596

Quote:

Perthlings, watch out for the Sheeran fall out in the next few days #superspreader

Quote:

Wow a coworker described it. Packed trains to a packed stadium of crowds screaming and singing, then packed trains home. Then go to work next day.

Yep... but I doubt we'll see anything about it in the media, of course.

Quote:

Respirator Crusader
@eagerrealist
·
5h
Replying to
@drstip
I was hoping he wasn’t coming here after the reports I’d heard from the east. 😩

Nah.... $$$$$ again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

Saw a comment on Twitter yesterday where someone suggested there should be a Medicare 'surcharge' added to every ticket sold for these Covid (and the flu) superspreader events.

I'd definitely like to see that happen.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:29pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

its not a bad idea.

since there are a half dozen people in hospital with covid (admit its the co-morbidities that put them there) and there are 10,000 people in hospital because they eat crap.

i propose a surcharge on all food with too much sugar or fat.

why waste a sensible initiative on a nothing burger

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

since there are a half dozen people in hospital with covid

https://covidlive.com.au/archive/20230310

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 4:11pm

wow

we had 6000 ventilators and whn covid hit italy we thought 6000 would not be enough .

now your data show we have a grand total of zero people in icu in WA.

what a nothing burger

we should have brought hankies and tissues and a few panadol, not an extra 1000 ventilators

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 6:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

So did we, dear, so did we. You said that was big government meddling in the Superior Man's business and so unfair.

You said we should help Maccas and KFC sell more sugar and fat. This, you said, would cause the chodes to all die of obesity or wake up to themselves.

Actually, you said, they'll never wake up, so bring it on.

Lives of pure garbage.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 16^th, 2023 at 6:02pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 15^th, 2023 at 6:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:29pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

when did i say that?

i said we should move with compassion into a maccas and sit down and eat a healthy salad.

the superior man seeks to inspire and mentor.

you completely misunderstand the "narrow road to success"

to start with all young men need to pursue women and cash.
why?
so they can get that out of their system and transcend the paradigm.

then as we climb we see the people who havent even done the brutal hard yards of getting money and cash.

these are the chodes
defined by
the cry baby narrative
seeing challenges as a problem
trying to pleasure themselves
following the path of least resistance.
limiting beliefs
self pity
addictions
inertia

so the superior man looks down and he sees 2 distinct groups.

those stuck in trying to get lots of pussy and cash and those who are too gutless to try to get lots of pussy and cash.

they both need to be met with completely different messages.

the chodes (incels, on the dole, complaining ) need the full force of the evolutionary blowtorch

those who are crushing it with women and cash need the full force of the tao te ching, the dharma, the teaching of marcus aurelius . they need to start on the work of ego death.

but at least they are on the path.

most people dont even start on the path

they are 50 or 60 and they are still an infant. an old infant. scared of life, scared of adventure, just wanting to be comfortable, latching onto an authority figure to tell them what to think the way an infant latches onto a breast. these people need urgent weaning.
its a full on emergenncy situation.

because they are rapidly approaching death with the skill set of a toddler.

thats catastrophic.

if you cared about your fellow human beings you would always apply the blowtorch to cry baby behaviour and you would always mentor wisdom to the over enthusiastic guy who is crushing it.

meet people where they are at

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:31am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 4:11pm:

Your "nothing burger" is still killing Australians at an unacceptable rate.

And still putting a lot of people in hospital and ICU.

https://covidlive.com.au/

I'm dreading to think what winter is going to be like this year.

But, I'm sure (almost) everyone is being distracted by nuclear submarines and now Tomahawk missiles at the moment. Until Covid affects them personally, of course.

As I said a few days back, the Federal government never seems to have any money for pensioners, the unemployed and the homeless but they apparently have no shortage of money for war mongering (and tax cuts for the rich).

This is absolutely shameful coming from the ALP* in my opinion.

* Alternate Liberal Party.

Oh, I'm awaiting Anthony Albanese's third "interaction" (his word after his second infection last year) with Covid... won't be too long now.

Will be interesting to see if it's a big "nothing burger" for him this time - even with his no doubt 'instant' access to antivirals and other treatments the rest of us have to jump through hoops to get (if we can even get them at all).

Speaking of Airbus Albo...

https://twitter.com/NobodyImpawtant/status/1636486839812108288

Yep. 100% agree.

Quote:

✅Made us a tactical lapdog of the USA for a photo-op in a crappy pair of raybans

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 12:35pm

Tax cuts for the rich this is sensible
✅ Most deaths from Covid & LC...only those with co morbidities, not albos fault , personal responsibility
✅AUKUS ...oh well, jobs for SA
✅Destruction of Medicare ....the sick care system , better to put the money into health
✅Keeping people in poverty ....not pandering to learned helplessness, kudos
✅114 new gas coal mines....great stuff, energy security is economic security
✅ Weak ICAC w/ secret hearings ....no witch hunts and kangaroo courts...way to go
✅Made us a tactical lapdog of the USA for a photo-op in a crappy pair of raybans ...i thought you like biden ?

well done albo, a sensible set of hands on the helm

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

"You don’t say"

Quelle surprise !!

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1636558807953465344

Quote:

David Crowe
@CroweDM
“We saw a big rise in the number of customers who chose to unleash their frustrations on retail staff during the pandemic. We expected this to
subside when restrictions lifted – but it simply hasn’t.”

-- Australian Retail Association.

I'm shocked I tell you... totally shocked! ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 12:35pm:

And to think I just wasted my time signing in so I could flip the page to read that rubbish *sigh* ::)

Also... once again...

Quote:

personal responsibility

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:10pm

yep

personal respomnsibility is a laughing matter to the scared infant.

cradle to grave infancy...how mediocre

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

112 Covid deaths for Australia this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

We've almost reached 20,000 deaths since the start of the pandemic.

South Australia has had 8 deaths this week (not minus 5).

29 deaths reported for WA this week, now getting close to 1,000 deaths since the border opened a year ago.

Cases and hospitalisations on the way up again.

Expect the usual chirping crickets from the pollies and the media, of course (too busy with submarines and missiles).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:20pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

3 years they have had to get healthy hit the gym , eat well, get some sun

personal responsibility may have saved these people from hospital and saved the taxpayer from exploding health costs.

thank god for personal responsibility ( the way of the superior man)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:38pm

We probably haven't seen the increase in cases yet from the Ed Sheeran Covid superspreader concert at Optus Stadium last Sunday.

And... look... AFL is back as well.

What a winter we (i.e. all of Australia) are going to be in for. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:38pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

Glyphosate (Roundup): Understanding Risks to Human Health

Updated: January 5, 2023

Don't you feel a bit silly now for telling us a few years back that you used to (and probably still do) cover yourself with this stuff without a care in the world?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 4:22pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

incorrect.

round up damages the soil fungi and bacteria, not humans directly.

the soil then cant grow nutitious food and when the chode eats his processed food, he gets diabetes and cancer because the food is garbage.

bathing in round up...not a problem
eating food grown in a round up paddock (what YOU eat)...demolishes your health

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 5:39pm

WTF???

https://twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1636585657706610690

Quote:

My kid came home from school yesterday telling me one of her classmates is at school, sick with COVID and boasting about it.
A call to the school from me ascertains there's nothing they can do about it due to the health guidance from the "health" department.
Thanks @CHO_WAHealth

But... but...

https://www.education.wa.edu.au/covid-19

"We are committed to ensuring schools remain safe for students, staff and families as we learn to live with COVID-19."

Quote:

Anyone who is COVID-19 positive and experiencing symptoms is strongly encouraged to stay home until they have recovered and register their positive RAT with Health.

COVID-19 positive cases and close contacts cannot visit public hospitals for 7 days to protect the more vulnerable people.

Anyone who is a close contact is encouraged to test daily for 5 days and only attend school following a negative RAT result.

No wonder we are so screwed regarding Covid.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:49pm

believe the science carl.

if the scientists thought it was bigger then a nothing burger, they would have rules for the school.
they dont

what does that tell you about this mild respiratory virus

white flag to be sent to me please

chop chop

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:21am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

So virtuous. Would you like a hug?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:24am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

Take your health advice from Aquascoot, leftards.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:31am

Karnal wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

Take your health advice from Aquascoot, leftards.

indeed you should,

round up itself interefers with the shikimic acid pathway in plants and kills them , basicly it kills ALL plants.
humans dont have a shikimic acid pathway , so we are safe.

but all the little fungi in the soil do.

and when you wipe those out your soil is basicly dead.

now your plants that are "round up ready" , soya beans and corn, can grow and look healthy.
but they lack a lot of the nutrients they used to get from the symbiotic relationship with the biome in the soil.

there is no evidence farmers are dropping dead from spraying round up for the last 50 years.

but there is plenty of evidence, city folk who live on these cheap food sources (which are the basic for most of the food in the centre aiels of every coles and woolworths ) are getting sick.

dementia up rapidly
diabetes up rapidly
rheumatoid arthris up rapidly
bowel cancer up rapidly
sperm counts plummetting
osteoporosis up rapidly.

you are lucky aqu is here to educate you

dr zach bush explains
25 minutes to change your life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:31am

Karnal wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

Take your health advice from Aquascoot, leftards.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:48am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:48am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:31am:

there is no evidence farmers are dropping dead from spraying round up for the last 50 years.

But there's plenty of evidence of at least one logging into a politics forum almost every day and posting demented rubbish as a result of spraying themselves with it.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:51am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

believe the science carl.

if the scientists thought it was bigger then a nothing burger, they would have rules for the school.
they dont

what does that tell you about this mild respiratory virus

The school (actually the WA Department of Education) does have rules regarding Covid in schools as I mentioned in my earlier post yesterday.

https://www.education.wa.edu.au/covid-19

Mind you, "strongly encouraged", "encouraged", "only attend school following a negative RAT result" and "Staff and students can wear a mask at school if they choose to" means diddly squat to the majority of people as we've seen after mandatory masks and other Covid protections were dropped on public transport, in healthcare settings, shopping centres and other indoor venues.

It's just the government covering their @sses so they can say "well, we did try and tell people to protect themselves".

It was the kid himself (and the parents obviously) who was deliberately ignoring them as Louisa pointed out later.

https://twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1636640637624922112

Quote:

The school is not lying. The kid is lying to them about having covid. The school challenged him today, he lied, then coughed his way through the NAPLAN test he’d come in specifically for. He’s told his friends he has covid.

There's that awesome "personal responsibility" again. ::)

Karnal wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:24am:

Take your health advice from Aquascoot, leftards.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 6:15am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 6:36am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:38pm:

afl and ed sheeran
spreading joy for human flourishing

this is the path of the superior society

lol...

https://twitter.com/AlboMP/status/1636583126532227074

Quote:

Chatted to Billy Brownless about all things AFL.

lol x2...

Quote:

Faceless Statistic In Waiting
@longhairlout
·
15h
Replying to
@AlboMP
and
@TripleMRushHour
Oh Anthony, stop it. You're embarrassing yourself. We're losing faith real fast.

#ALPLiars
#MorePhotoOppsThanScomo #AlboIsALiar #COVID19 #CovidIsNotOver #SocialMurderer #HowManyPeopleCanBeHousedForThePriceOfThoseSubmarines #AmericasLapdog #JustLikeScottWithADifferentColourTie

Seriously, does this clown (Albanese) ever sleep or suffer from jet lag after his non stop globe trotting?

It's getting to the stage where I'm starting to believe he's a robot sent from the future to destroy the Australian population with Covid and/or war. Someone should make a movie about this... oh, wait... that's already been done. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 2:53pm

Has Marky Mark got Covid again? I wouldn't be surprised if he has.

If the Perth Mint saga is a 'storm in a teacup', just how big is Mark McGowan's cup?

Quote:

Earlier that day, he'd been too unwell to attend a major press conference with his federal colleagues announcing WA's involvement in the AUKUS sub deal.

Some seem to think so.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1637292459947622402

Quote:

Oh and is this your second or third COVID infection Mark?

Hope you feel better soon…

That's sarcasm from Tim, by the way.

Quote:

jj_
@JulieJo49906937
·
12m
Replying to
@LettersfromTim

@LesleyDaniels
and
@MarkMcGowanMP
He would likely get Rolls Royce treatment. Paxlovid, whatever else is available that others only get if severely ill. Probably gets a booster every 4 months.

Yes, I'm absolutely certain that he does. Same goes for all the pollies.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 26^th, 2023 at 10:55am

Just when you think the Covid insanity cannot get any worse.

And especially when the next 'wave' has just started.

WA hospitals dump mask requirement, but not all medicos are smiling

Quote:

Mask wearing in clinical areas of WA hospitals has been dropped as a requirement, prompting an angry response from some WA doctors and nurses, who claim COVID-19 remains a lethal threat to patients and others.

Despite recorded infections increasing in WA for the past month, the authorities are continuing to relax protective measures.

There were 3168 recorded new cases in the week up to Thursday, a 20 per cent increase of the previous week and 39 per cent up on one month ago. There were 64 people in hospitals with COVID, just five more than last week.

In the past month, 50 deaths have been recorded, though not all occurred in that period.

Someone please tell me this isn't a deliberate attempt at infecting everyone (repeatedly) in pursuit of that mythical herd/hybrid immunity as well as a continuing deliberate culling of the elderly and vulnerable to save money on pensions and healthcare costs. Not just here in WA but Australia wide.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 26^th, 2023 at 5:35pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 26^th, 2023 at 10:55am:

Just when you think the Covid insanity cannot get any worse.

And especially when the next 'wave' has just started.

WA hospitals dump mask requirement, but not all medicos are smiling

Quote:

i dont think its a deliberate culling but we have to face facts.

you could spend the entire federal busget on looking after the health needs of the diseased and the frail.

and you still wouldnt make much of a dent in it.

hospitals were designed for people with appendicitis, with broken bones from football, with a car accident or a heart attack or a new cancer.

they were never designed for the prolonging of life by extraordinary means of the very old and frail.

if every old frail person demanded their right to gold medal standard health care , to a spot in ICU, to drips full of exorbitantly expensive drugs then the system falls apart.

governments answer to unsustainable health costs is to limit the availability to beds.

hospital beds will become like social housing.

more and more demand and less and less supply.

are governments going to tell you this?

no.

but as ambulances get ramped more and more and there simply are no beds, you just miss out on treatment

england is experiencing this as we speak

Patients face SIX-MONTH waits for rescheduled appointments due to three-day junior doctors' strike that's crippling NHS hospitals

Half a million appointments are expected to be cancelled this week due to the walkouts, coordinated by the British Medical Association (BMA),

ive already told you carl that my wifes hospital in a burgeoning outer urban town is running at 60 % capacity.

heres how sneaky governments are.

they told her hospital they need to make 8 of the 36 beds available for children to be admitted,
but they have no paediatrician or even a visiting peadiatrician
so any kids that come into cas get bundled into an ambulance and sent to the closest big hospital because the cas doctors wont admit them .

so with 8 beds empty, the government can cut nursing staff, cleaners, bed expenses and try and get back into budget.

a budget that was blown due to covid over expenditure,.

now the nursing home patients are NOT admitted.
period

everythign affects everything else,.

you want hospitals to pay 3000 dollars for acourse of paxlovid for covid, they will close beds

you cant get blood out of a stone

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 27^th, 2023 at 5:52pm

Gotta love The West Australian.

After a couple of stories last week about the removal of mandatory masks in WA hospitals which included comments from several doctors about how foolish and potentially deadly the decision was we have this letter published in today's paper.

Unbelievable. And from a so called doctor.

"COVID is no worse than any other viral infection"

Name one... just one... viral infection that has killed more than 2,500 Australians in just under 3 months since the start of this year. And in summer/autumn.

One thing I do agree with:

"- in fact flu may be more of an issue in 2023"

Could be.

But, no matter how much more of an "issue" the flu is I bet it doesn't kill anywhere near as many people as COVID does.

And, I'm not 'blanking out' the writer's name like I usually do so as many people as possible can see who this idiot is and hopefully avoid going anywhere near him for medical help or advice.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 27^th, 2023 at 6:07pm

the cult of "death anxiety" is becoming smaller and smaller .

karl, as i noted elsewhere

psychiatric help is available

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 27^th, 2023 at 7:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 27^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

the cult of "death anxiety" is becoming smaller and smaller .

karl, as i noted elsewhere

psychiatric help is available

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:23pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 26^th, 2023 at 10:55am:

Just when you think the Covid insanity cannot get any worse.

And especially when the next 'wave' has just started.

WA hospitals dump mask requirement, but not all medicos are smiling

Quote:

https://twitter.com/TheVertlartnic/status/1640443974509789186

Quote:

It’s Finally Done.
The War Against Safe Hospitals Has Been Won.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:28pm

the age of entitlement is over carl.

no hospital bed for you.

the doctors and nurses are abandoniing ship due to the selfishness of the patients.

well done

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 29^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 29^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 29^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 29^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:28pm:

the age of entitlement is over carl.

no hospital bed for you.

the doctors and nurses are abandoniing ship due to the selfishness of the patients.

well done

Yes, indeed.

How selfish of the patients having to go to hospital due to catching a Biosafety Level 3 virus which our governments have told us "needs to be treated just like any other respiratory illness" and removed all protections to prevent the spread of this virus and people being infected by it.

Except that it isn't "just like any other respiratory illness", of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 29^th, 2023 at 2:29pm

hospitals are overwhelmed with diabetics and dementia patients awaiting a spot in a nursing home.
they would nt be overwhlemed if people took "personal responsibility" and ate well, didnt drink and remained fit.

unfortunately, thats not most chodes.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm

From today's The Sunday Times.

Page 9.

Nice to see a bit of honesty about the Covid situation for a change although I'm sure we'll be hearing it's just another "short, sharp wave" before Easter in the next few days.

Just like the "short, sharp wave" we had before Christmas. ::)

No mention of deaths of course which stand at 999 (990 since the WA border finally opened just over a year ago).

Some believe the State government deliberately stopped at 999 last week so the 1,000 deaths announcement will be 'lost' amongst the 'excitement' of the Easter break. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

"massive under-reporting of positive cases"

Oh, yes... and not just in WA, I'll bet.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 3^rd, 2023 at 9:29am

Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson said WA "was in the final stages of preparing its seasonal campaign ahead of this winter".

"It will focus on both the flu and COVID," she said.

Let me guess - all we'll see is "make sure you're up to date with your COVID and flu vaccinations" and "stay home if you're feeling unwell" (which most people will ignore, as usual).

There won't be one word about wearing masks, I'll bet.

Oh, maybe it'll be something like "masks are recommended indoors and in other crowded places" (which most people will also continue to ignore).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 3^rd, 2023 at 4:23pm

I wonder what's causing the issue here?

Perth airspace restricted due to shortage of air traffic controllers

Quote:

Commercial flights departing and arriving in Perth had to contend with no air traffic control support last Tuesday night, with skies to the east of the city reclassified as Temporary Restricted Airspace.

Paywalled of course but I used a 'bypass' to get to this part of the story:

Quote:

The union blames a Retirement Incentive Scheme that Airservices offered to its staff in July 2021. The union claims 138 Air Traffic Service staff took up the offer between 30 August 2021 and 17 June 2022.

“Of the 138, at least 124 were operational air traffic controllers,” said Civil Air president Tom McRobert. “We estimate that scheme removed approximately 13.7 per cent of air traffic controllers from rosters around Australia.

I read the whole story and the C(ovid) word wasn't mentioned once.

So, I wonder what the 'excuse' is for the shortage in the US and probably other parts of the world? A screenshot of a quick Google search is attached.

"Covid - the word that must never be seen or heard again" ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 3^rd, 2023 at 9:01pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2023 at 9:29am:

It'll be just like this waste of taxpayers money no doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUz5VVBVtbE

“The balls in your court” ::)

Let's see what the punters have to say about that, shall we?

https://twitter.com/annatime94/status/1642814653859512320

Quote:

Anna-
@annatime94
·
1h
Replying to
@annatime94
Here it is.. Australia federal health’s latest COVID vaccination ad.. lovely images of maskless pharmacists administering vaccination to maskless older Australians amongst over pathetic things..

Get in the bin Butler..

Quote:

Charlotte SARSWithChars
@covidactionnow
·
1h
Replying to
@annatime94
Terrible! not one mask
Time for @Mark_Butler_MP
@PKelly_CBR
to go. Health departments just not doing their job. We have 30% deltacron in SA & not a peep from @SAHealth
its a disgrace. Largest pandemic in our time & health depts go silent publicising flu risk aleady but not covid

Oh, and this classic...

https://twitter.com/ChioneNgozi/status/1642833097086603264

Quote:

Maybe they should’ve ended the advert with these balls … 🏀🏀

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 7:37am

lol.. (but not funny really).

https://twitter.com/WAGovernment/status/1640232997055090689

Quote:

You can now pick up free RATs at Bunnings Cannington and Midland during opening hours.

Stop by the entrance/exit to pick up your free RATs over the next two weeks.

Free because the WA government bought 2 million dollars worth of them ages ago and they're now about to expire so they would rather have the public dispose of them and save themselves the time and expense of doing it themselves.

They've also been handing them out for free in some of the shopping centres here over the past few months. Places like Red Dot that were selling them for $10 for ONE test less than 6 months ago must have been a bit embarrassed (I see they've stopped doing that now).

Of course hardly anybody wanted them anyway after the government bought them because... well, nearly everyone believes the pandemic is over and Omicron was/is "mild". At least that's the message we've had from our governments and the media over the past 12 to 18 months.

And they're probably useless for detecting the latest variants in circulation (not that RAT's were/are very reliable to begin with).

And...

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1643982516838346753

Quote:

Would you like a free sausage?

How about a Biosafety Level 3 viral infection?

Just wander around Bunnings for an hour and you can take both home to your family

Thanks @MarkMcGowanMP

Yep, last 3 or 4 times I've been to our local Bunnings I was the only one there wearing a mask as far as I could see.

https://twitter.com/eagerrealist/status/1643985639308951552

Quote:

So they’re saying these areas are hot spots.

lol... sure seems like it.

https://twitter.com/sunsets1207/status/1640476275931516929

Quote:

Is this a parody account 😂 😂 😂

Hard to tell these days (and not just in WA).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 3:46pm

I read this in today's The West Australian:

Editorial: Complacency the enemy in COVID battle

And right near the end we have this:

Quote:

“The prediction is that there will be a wave in winter, which is why the Health Department has urged people to get a winter booster.”

And clearly the time to start booking in for the jab is now — not waiting for the inevitable stampede once an outbreak picks up momentum as the weather gets colder.

Then there are the boring, obvious things that nevertheless are worth revisiting.

Like maintaining personal hygiene such as hand-washing and not coughing or sneezing in public.

And making sure we take a test if feeling unwell — and staying at home if we come down with the dreaded ‘rona.

Not one word about mask wearing, of course. Masks are a big no-no in places like Australia. Stops people shopping and spending apparently (but it's funny how wearing masks doesn't seem to do that in places like Hong Kong and many other Asian countries).

Wasn't particularly busy when I went up to Belmont Forum earlier but I think I only saw about 2 other people wearing a mask besides me.

Plenty of people sanitising their hands and wiping their shopping trolley handles as they went into Coles and Woolies though.

Which would be great if people breathed through their hands. Still might want to think about putting a mask on your hands though.

Even the World Health Organization has finally admitted (after 3 years) that Covid is airborne and hangs around in the air like smoke. Not just carried in droplets that don't travel any further than 1.5 meters (2 meters in some countries judging by some of the overseas social distancing signs I've seen over the past 3 years).

We are going to be so screwed this winter.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 4:04pm

Also read this in today's paper about Jay's super spreader party on April 1st.

https://thewest.com.au/opinion/jay-hanna-i-went-to-a-super-spreader-party-and-caught-covid-in-2023-c-10288064

Paywalled but here's the text:

On April 1 I attended a COVID-19 super spreader party. It wasn’t a joke.

And I know what you’re thinking, I thought the same — super spreader events are so passe, so 2022, like Will Smith slap jokes and comparing Wordle scores.

We have moved on. Except, newsflash, COVID-19 has not.

To be honest I did not give the virus a thought as I prepared to celebrate the milestone birthday of a close friend.

I live for a good party and this was going to be a cracker with great friends, free-flowing booze and a playlist of 80s and 90s bangers. The birthday girl made sure we were all a few drinks deep before we assembled for our customary Total Eclipse of the Heart singalong. You’d be jealous, right? If you didn’t know there was a sting in this tale.

The next day the Dockers and the Eagles were squaring up for the western derby but across town in Perth’s inner northern suburbs a different grudge match was playing out as husbands and wives argued about whether it was going to be Macca’s or Hungry Jack’s to the hangover rescue.

Monday, I woke feeling brand new. I even hit the gym after work with energy to burn. But that night I found it hard to sleep. My throat was a bit dry and I felt a bit snotty.

Tuesday morning, I got up early and typed an email to my colleague. “I’m going to work from home today, I’m not feeling the best. About to do a COVID test but pretty sure it’s just a cold.”

Fifteen minutes and one positive RAT test later and I was typing back, in disbelief, “Far out (that’s not what I wrote), I have COVID.”

Turns out I wasn’t the only one — our group chat was on fire (along with our throats) — as the birthday girl kept us informed of more and more cases emerging. She even sourced flashy gifs for each number. Although one came close to giving us epilepsy to add to our COVID.

As the tally continued to rise one friend joked, “this is even better than the live polls on election night”.

Another mate, when confessing her husband was case 14, said “I really haven’t been able to tell when his hangover subsided and COVID began.”

Those laughs gave me life when I felt like hell.

By Thursday, five days after the party and the day school broke up for the holidays, our tally reached 16. Most of us were parents from the same school, scattered across two year groups. The teachers, be they believers or not, must have been praising Jesus and his resurrection for those well-timed two weeks away from our potentially COVID-ridden children as they sprinted to their Hondas.

To be continued...

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

Continued...

The tally now stands at 18. One third of the party guests walked out with an unfortunate viral goodie bag that night. We don’t know where it started and it doesn’t really matter. The point is, if, like me, you thought super spreader events were something that happened “back then”, back when we were still watching daily tallies and bracing for snap lockdowns (and cursing the fact they always seemed to coincide with schools going back), then think again.

I admit I got complacent about COVID. I hadn’t got around to having my fourth booster. And in the throes of despair, when those horrible COVID nights had me climbing the walls, you better believe I kicked myself over that.

We all want to believe COVID is something that has come and gone but sadly “back then” is still here. That doesn’t mean we have to stop living our lives or singing 80s power ballads at the top of our lungs with our mates but it does mean we need to remain cautious and help mitigate the risks.

Our party cohort was among the 3446 new cases reported in WA in the week ending April 7.

In the same reporting period, three people died, pushing the State’s COVID death tally to more than 1000. A grim milestone, indeed.

So consider this a little reminder to do the right thing. Practise good hand hygiene and stay home if you feel sick. No one likes to miss out on a good party but you also don’t want to be someone who inadvertently does the viral equivalent of a celebratory champagne spray that takes down your mates.

"Practise good hand hygiene and stay home if you feel sick"

Just like it said in the editorial. Not a word about masks. ::)

Needless to say, people tried to educate her on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/Jay_Hanna_/status/1645208383858040832

(Click on "Show more replies" after every 3)

Probably without any success, I'm sure.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 4:21pm

Even Dr. David Berger read it (he's not impressed and I'm not surprised).

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1645231105715363844

And he agrees with me - we're screwed. :o

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 11:12am

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:33pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

Uh-oh!

Triple virus threat looming in WA as COVID, flu and RSV infections soar

Quote:

A triple virus threat is looming in WA as experts warn the spread of infection has returned to full speed.

Professor Yuben Moodley said this winter could be quite unique with COVID-19, influenza, and RSV bubbling away.

“These viruses rely on proximity for spread so we would envisage having a fair amount of spread within the community,” he said.

COVID-19 numbers have been hovering around 3000 cases a week with new cases increasing by six per cent to almost 3500 last week, and hospital admissions for the virus jumped 10 per cent to 112.

Influenza infections in WA have already soared with 346 flu cases in January, 477 in February, and 694 in March - the highest number ever reported for the month of March.

It was nice not having to worry about the flu (or Covid) for a couple of years while the borders were closed and we had testing, mask wearing and quarantine but now we're back to "normal". Qantas, Virgin and Flight Centre need to be making those $$$$$ (even if it means "some people may die" - 20,049 so far and 14,000 since the Federal election last year).

Still waiting for the WA government's advice about how to deal with this "triple threat" during winter.

Let me guess - "Practise good hand hygiene and stay home if you feel sick".

Oh, "And make sure you're up to date with with your Covid and flu vaccinations" (the only bit of useful advice they'll give, I'm sure).

Not one word about wearing masks, of course.

I have noticed more people than usual wearing masks when I'm out shopping lately, let's see how long it lasts.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

This is where we're "at" (after 3 years):

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1646977657861726213

Quote:

Is it progress when a health ‘boss’ correctly identifies airborne covid as a huge problem but then fails to mandate effective masking & safe air standards?

‘The wards are on fire, please consider throwing a cup of water at the flames while you continue hand washing.’

And, I will continue to follow this advice for as long as I possibly can:

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1646530981351026693

Quote:

To me tonight. Fellow doctor, N95 masking, entire family C0VID-free: "The game's lost, Dave. Just protect yourself and your family."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 2:53pm

There was a small piece at the bottom of page 4 of today's The West Australian about the looming triple virus threat (but nothing was said about wearing masks to protect yourself and others, of course).

Also nothing there (or in the entire paper) about the grim milestone of 20,000 Covid deaths for Australia which was reached last week.

Not a single mention of the 20,000 deaths or the "triple threat" in the Letters to the Editor as I expected. No mention of Covid at all.

The West considers letters about how long it takes to unwrap your shrink wrapped home delivered copy more important. ::)

*** Yes - don't cut yourself Matt and end up in the emergency department because if you didn't have Covid going in you'd definitely have it after you come out.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 11:49pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

This is where we're "at" (after 3 years):

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1646977657861726213

Quote:

Improving health in WA

Quote:

At WA Health, we are equally concerned with prevention as well as treatment.

Our public health programs are concerned with promoting health in the community, preventing disease before it occurs and managing risk.

I probably would have choked on my Weet-Bix if I'd been having some for breakfast when I read that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 6:02am

Carl D wrote on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 11:49pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

This is where we're "at" (after 3 years):

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1646977657861726213

Quote:

Improving health in WA

[quote]At WA Health, we are equally concerned with prevention as well as treatment.

Our public health programs are concerned with promoting health in the community, preventing disease before it occurs and managing risk.

I probably would have choked on my Weet-Bix if I'd been having some for breakfast when I read that.[/quote]

hi carl, my wife who is an actual nurse (not some twitter wannabe) reports covid is nothing in terms of problems in her hospital

they do have 2 4 bed bay blocked off with one patient in each (thereby making the other 3 beds empty ) thru vancomycin resistant staph. staph is a much bigger problem and is resulting in lots of amputations of diabetics. hopefully WA health is really hammering the dangers of sugar and forgetting about the inconvenience of a mild respiratory virus

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 9:56am

I'm guessing that if one lives on a farm in Nowheresville in the middle of outback Queensland (population:10) with a local hospital probably the size of a small house then Covid (and Staph) wouldn't be too much of a problem.

As for the majority of the rest of us living in the major cities around the country I'll refer again to the advice of the excellent Dr. Berger:

https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1646530981351026693

Quote:

To me tonight. Fellow doctor, N95 masking, entire family C0VID-free: "The game's lost, Dave. Just protect yourself and your family."

But, anyway - thank you for your input (and your wife's input) aqua. :)

Oh, by the way...

aquascoot wrote on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 6:02am:

hi carl, my wife who is an actual nurse (not some twitter wannabe) reports covid is nothing in terms of problems in her hospital

Dr. David Berger - Twitter.

Dr. David Berger - LinkedIn.

Dr. Andrew Miller - Twitter.

Andrew Miller (doctor) - Wikipedia.

(You're welcome). 8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 10:23am

Dr David Berger, aBsuRdiSTe cROnickLeR
@YouAreLobbyLud
Activist doctor.
Resisting bastardry, rebutting bullshit. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 10:46am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 10:23am:

White flag accepted.

When you're down at the Post Office tomorrow to send this one off to me could you also ask them how things are going with several others I've been expecting to receive from you during the past couple of weeks?

They haven't arrived yet (as of Friday afternoon).

Thanks. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 1:46pm

(Not really Covid related but I'll post it here).

Today's The Sunday Times.

The 'snippet' on the right is from page 4.

Question: Where are all of these students going to live once they get here seeing as we already have an acute shortage of rental properties and for the few that are available the rent is outrageous?

Not just in WA but Australia wide.

I read somewhere last week about students setting up half a dozen tents in the living room of a house that one was able to rent... in the Eastern States somewhere from memory.

Perhaps this is why 'Sneakers' McGowan hasn't done anything with the hundreds of vacant public housing properties around Perth and suburbs which have been "allegedly" waiting for maintenance (some of them for a few years) before new tenants can move in (or they're waiting to be sold off)?

The nearly 20,000 people on WA's public housing waiting list will just have to wait (quite) a bit longer I guess if these houses are being 'saved' for international students (I don't honestly believe they are but nothing would surprise me with our governments these days).

Oh, and I'm sure the $1500 "one-off" payment to assist with accomodation, cost of living and course fees will go a long way. Not. ::)

Edit: There's 79 vacant public housing units here for starters:

Stirling Towers keep casting a shadow over Highgate as latest plans for demolition fall through

October 28, 2021

Quote:

A suburban high-rise building is set to remain a playground for adrenalin junkies and a noisy dilapidated eyesore for locals, with the latest plans for demolition and redevelopment mothballed.

Built in 1970, Stirling Towers on Smith Street in Highgate contained 79 Homeswest family units but has been vacant since the final tenants moved out to surrounding areas by 2014.

The 12-storey, 38m structure soars above neighbouring homes and has coveted views of the Perth cityscape, but it has been boarded up with 24/7 security installed in what locals say is a failed attempt to stop vandals entering throughout the day and night.

In the 9 years that the previous and current State governments have been dithering around trying to work out what to do they probably could have spent a few million dollars and refurbished it.

And as far as I know they're still dithering around trying to work out what to do with it. ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 16^th, 2023 at 3:21pm

lol... what a surprise.

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/1647206036355313665

Read the replies (might need to click on "Show more replies" after every 3).

This one is a classic:

https://twitter.com/UR_flog/status/1647455004729675776

;D

Actually, I suppose 'Sneakers' could use the 200 million dollar white elephant quarantine facility in Bullsbrook for housing some of the international students seeing as he finally caved in and let Covid run rampant here in WA before it was ready.

And it's costing millions of dollars a year just to leave it there sitting empty. "Maintenance costs", so we're told.

Of course it could be used for housing some of the homeless or to reduce the public housing waiting list numbers by a few hundred people but those things are not important as far as our governments are concerned.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 17^th, 2023 at 3:39pm

Hey, Greg.

Did you see or hear the protest march in St. George's Terrace this morning?

I came out of my dentist appointment just after 11am and immediately thought "what's this loud music and talking I could hear?".

Looked down the Terrace towards William St. (I was standing in the Terrace near the Cloisters) and saw the protesters coming. The police had both sides of the Terrace closed off up to Milligan/Mount Streets until the protesters turned into Mount St. and had a nice sit down in the park there (after having a extra loud chant at the Woodside building - they were protesting about oil and gas, etc.).

When the Terrace was reopened I finally caught a 935 bus coming down from Kings Park and got home over an hour later than I was expecting to.

The traffic lights at the intersection of the Terrace and Barrack St. weren't helping with the traffic situation either after the Terrace reopened because they would only let about 2 or 3 vehicles through before they changed back to red and gave Barrack St. (and pedestrians) about 2 or 3 minutes of green. ::)

Here's one of the pictures I took of the protesters as they were turning from the Terrace into Mount St. (The Woodside building is on the far left). Taken at 11:42am.

The picture was taken further up the Terrace just past QV1 because at one stage there I thought I might have to walk up to Kings Park to get the bus and I'd already started walking.

Oh, since this is a Covid thread I suppose I should say that as far as I could see none of the protesters... or the police... or hardly anyone else that I could see were wearing masks.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 18^th, 2023 at 1:53pm

Covid... Flu... RSV... now measles.

Perth really is plague central right now.

Measles alert for Perth

Quote:

Western Australians are being asked to be alert to the risk of measles following the reporting of a confirmed case of the viral illness in a returned traveller.

Infected while overseas, the person visited a number of Perth venues while they were infectious between Friday 7 April and Thursday 13 April.

No masks.... no testing... no quarantine. What a surprise. ::)

With any luck we might see a few more people in Perth and suburbs wearing masks in the coming weeks (yeah, right).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18^th, 2023 at 2:48pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 17^th, 2023 at 3:39pm:

Hey, Greg.

Did you see or hear the protest march in St. George's Terrace this morning?

Nah, I didn't go into the city today (my dentist is on St Georges Tce too).

I'm not surprised that the protesters weren't wearing masks though.

Strangely, I've noticed a lot of people are starting to wear masks at my local Vic Park Woolworths - all ages, too.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 18^th, 2023 at 3:42pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 18^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 17^th, 2023 at 3:39pm:

Hey, Greg.

Did you see or hear the protest march in St. George's Terrace this morning?

Took my aunt to her GP in North Perth this morning to get her flu shot and a blood test (same medical practice where my GP is).

Apart from us I saw about half a dozen other people there wearing masks - and most of them were patients.

Even my aunt's own GP has stopped wearing her mask, last time I took my aunt to see her in November she was wearing a high quality mask like we were/are.

And, I was the only person wearing a mask when I went to the dentist yesterday morning... the chap who did my clean and checkup had a blue surgical mask on while he did the cleaning but that was the only time he had it on. Same for the rest of the dentists and staff that I saw.

That was my first visit to Perth City since my last dentist visit 6 months ago and I'm pretty sure I won't be going back there until my next appointment in October (I've driven through there several times over the past few months but my aunt and I never stopped anywhere and got out of the car).

Basil can keep his "City of Light" (and stick his bicycle where the sun don't shine). ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:53pm

And... there it is.

(A follow up to my post from April 15.)

Carl D wrote on Apr 15^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

Still waiting for the WA government's advice about how to deal with this "triple threat" during winter.

Let me guess - "Practise good hand hygiene and stay home if you feel sick".

Oh, "And make sure you're up to date with with your Covid and flu vaccinations" (the only bit of useful advice they'll give, I'm sure).

Not one word about wearing masks, of course.

So predictable. There was also an ad for this in today's The West Australian. (with the same 'footy' picture in it).

Stay well this winter with free flu vaccines available this May

Quote:

Stay healthy this winter by continuing to practise good hygiene habits such as washing your hands, staying home if unwell, and keeping up to date with your vaccinations.

Not one word about masks, of course. They don't even say "recommended" anymore. But, keep on washing and sanitising those hands (works really well with airborne viruses that you breathe in) and stay home if you're unwell (yeah, right).

Staying healthy in winter

Not one word about masks there either.

I still have to wonder if our governments are more afraid of their big business 'masters' or the anti mask 'cookers' (but... but... MAH FREEDUMB!!!!) with refusing to mandate masks anymore or even recommend them, especially in winter.

My guess would be they're more afraid of the 'cookers' but I might be wrong. Probably afraid of both.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 12:17am

On a somewhat related note I was reading in the paper the other day that 'Sneakers' (McGowan) is disappointed that public transport patronage in Perth has not returned to "pre-pandemic levels".

He dropped mask mandates on public transport about a week before the opening of the Airport Line last October which is part of his beloved (and extremely expensive) Metronet.

He even said at the time of dropping the mask mandates that he hoped it would result in an increase of public transport usage ($$$$ again, of course).

Well, Mark - if public transport usage hasn't returned to "pre-pandemic" levels even after the dropping of mask mandates I'm guessing word has probably gotten around amongst the elderly and medically vulnerable people that public transport isn't safe for them anymore.

But, being a politician I doubt you would understand or even care about that.

Suck it up, princess. See you at the ballot box in 2025 (and I won't be voting Liberal either in case anyone's wondering).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 9:08am

You really are a sick unit carl.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 9:18am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

You really are a sick unit carl.

Care to discuss what I've said in my previous posts, Sir Nail?

Seeing as you don't live in Perth or WA (thank goodness for small mercies) I'm guessing the answer is no.

You'll just continue with the one line insults and memes instead.

No worries... knock yourself out.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:20am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 9:18am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

You really are a sick unit carl.

you're an extreme hypochondriac mate. You desperately need help :(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:20am:

you're an extreme hypochondriac mate. You desperately need help :(

Got any proof of that?

So, you're also a medical expert now, are you?

I on the other hand have lots of proof that you're a antivaxxer nutjob - your posts here are 100% proof of that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:47am

Carl D wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 11:20am:

you're an extreme hypochondriac mate. You desperately need help :(

Got any proof of that?

So, you're also a medical expert now, are you?

I on the other hand have lots of proof that you're a antivaxxer nutjob - your posts here are 100% proof of that.

so you think I'm an antivaxer nut but you're an extreme hypochondriac :D LOL

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:09pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 7:37am:

lol.. (but not funny really).

https://twitter.com/WAGovernment/status/1640232997055090689

Quote:

You can now pick up free RATs at Bunnings Cannington and Midland during opening hours.

Stop by the entrance/exit to pick up your free RATs over the next two weeks.

Crikey... it was worse than I thought - I'm not sure where I got the $2 million figure from, actually.

COVID RAT strategy criticised by WA auditor-general after cost soared to almost $600 million

:o

Quote:

The WA government has been slammed for the way it managed the purchase of rapid antigen tests at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, with a report finding there was no "clear, considered and coordinated" plan.

In her report released today, Auditor-General Caroline Spencer said the rapid escalation in cost to $580 million in total was unlike anything she had ever seen.

She said what started as a $3 million spend on tests for health workers and returning travellers quickly spiralled beyond $440 million, "around twice the cost of the Bunbury Hospital redevelopment".

"Public entities spent the equivalent of 10 per cent of the state's 2022 operating surplus on diagnostic plastics without demonstrable evidence of clear, considered and coordinated planning or ongoing advice as to the necessity of the expenditure," Ms Spencer said.

No wonder they've been giving them away by the truckload in shopping centres, Bunnings and other places.

Quote:

Deputy Premier and former health minister Roger Cook said the government had made difficult decisions when there was no rulebook about how to handle the pandemic.

"[We] understood that having an abundance of rapid antigen tests was a key way that we could continue to protect peoples' health [and] save lives, while we were dealing with the onset of Omicron and as it made its way through the community as we opened up our borders," he said.

"You sit back and you reflect on those decisions and you think, my God, I'm just so pleased that we made them in the way that we did because it protected lives and in addition to that, protected Western Australia's economy."

What happened to the "protected lives" part after WA's border opened in March last year? Over 1,000 West Australians have died from Covid since then.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:18pm

500 million dollars for rat tests just for WA.

good grief.

the medical industrial complex has been farming western australians very successfully.

too bad theres no money left to increase jobseeker

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:23pm

david panton, partner of julie bishop (i think she is western australian) runs pantonic health which supplies most of WA's rat .

the medical political industrial complex :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:29pm

david panton, partner of julie bishop (i think she is western australian) runs pantonic health which supplies most of WA's rat .

the medical political industrial complex :D :D :D :D

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:32pm

and carl, guess who pantons room mate was at uni?

ted cruz ;D ;D ;D ;D

WA spent 500 million of YOUR dollars so mates of american republicans could get rich
(of course they had to scare you first with this mild respiratory virus )

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:33pm

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:18pm:

500 million dollars for rat tests just for WA.

good grief.

the medical industrial complex has been farming western australians very successfully.

too bad theres no money left to increase jobseeker

Hospitals falling apart at the seams in WA then McClown wastes taxpayers money on this.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:33pm

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:23pm:

david panton, partner of julie bishop (i think she is western australian) runs pantonic health which supplies most of WA's rat .

the medical political industrial complex

Yes, she's a West Australian, but she was in the Liberal Party.

And, she's not in the WA state government - she left politics before COVID started. She was in federal politics.

Moreover, she split up with Panton at least eight months ago.

Having said that, I'd be the last person in the world to defend Ms. Bishop, and if something shifty is going on here I would not be surprised in the slightest.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm

Pity the WA government didn't spend all of that money - well, some of it at least - on (high quality) masks instead of all those RAT's.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:49pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

Pity the WA government didn't spend all of that money on (high quality) masks instead of all those RAT's.

Masks don't work why do Branch Covidians ignore the science on this?

You said your doctor stopped wearing a mask perhaps he read the Cochrane report and accepted the real science on masks.

The money spent on RAT and masks was wasted they should have spent the money on improving hospitals.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:51pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:49pm:

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

Pity the WA government didn't spend all of that money on (high quality) masks instead of all those RAT's.

Masks don't work ...

They do, actually.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:55pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

Pity the WA government didn't spend all of that money - well, some of it at least - on (high quality) masks instead of all those RAT's.

Oh, and a public education campaign on how to wear them properly.

Among the very few people I saw still wearing masks at Belmont Forum today there were one or two wearing surgical 'baggy blues' in chin nappy/warmer or dick nose 'mode'. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2023 at 6:08pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:49pm:

Masks don't work..

https://twitter.com/DALupton/status/1653157835214303232

Prof Deborah Lupton MPH PhD

Professor @UNSW
Sydney. Sociology, media, cultural studies. OzSAGE.

Quote:

Wearing a face mask/respirator against COVID in a country like Australia has become a sign of bravery and defiance- against ignorance, denialism, minimisation, stigma, the inevitability of infection, learned helplessness. It’s hard to stand out from the crowd, but it’s important!

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 3^rd, 2023 at 7:49pm

Just read that WA paid $500 million for RATs that are now stocked in their millions in warehouses around WA.

Laughable when they'd only allocated $3 million.

What a nanny state!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 3^rd, 2023 at 8:07pm

There's a rumour going around that 'Sneakers' McGowan could be giving everyone another credit towards their power bills to help with cost of living expenses in the upcoming State Budget.

We might not be getting it now after the cost 'blowout' (and that would have to be the understatement of the year) with all of those RAT's.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on May 3^rd, 2023 at 8:21pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 6:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:49pm:

Masks don't work..

https://twitter.com/DALupton/status/1653157835214303232

Prof Deborah Lupton MPH PhD

Professor @UNSW
Sydney. Sociology, media, cultural studies. OzSAGE.

UNSW has full fee paying Asian students it's not considered one of our best.

How does Sociology ,media and cultural studies make you qualified on this subject?

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by MeisterEckhart on May 3^rd, 2023 at 8:30pm

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:18pm:

500 million dollars for rat tests just for WA.

good grief.

the medical industrial complex has been farming western australians very successfully.

too bad theres no money left to increase jobseeker

Yep, half a bil to keep Carl and his elderly aunt 'safe'.

The millions of unused ones will be landfill.

Maybe Carl can direct traffic from his motorised trolley while they dump them in the Swan River.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2023 at 9:11am

Looks like Mark wasn't the only one to 'stock up' on too many RAT's.

Victorian Department of Health

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1653972766046011393

Quote:

Did you know you can get free rapid antigen tests?

Get ready for winter and collect free tests from your local council for you and your family.

Rapid antigen tests are quick and effective, especially when you have symptoms.

"Get ready for winter"

By the time winter 'officially' arrives (June 1st) I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of these 'stockpiled' RAT's are expired.

Which is no doubt why Dan is giving them away for free so his government doesn't need to go to the trouble and expense of getting rid of them. Just like Mark has done here in WA.

And besides, they're almost useless for detecting Covid anyway, especially the latest variants.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 5^th, 2023 at 12:33pm

Carl D wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:55pm:

Among the very few people I saw still wearing masks at Belmont Forum today there were one or two wearing surgical 'baggy blues' in chin nappy/warmer or dick nose 'mode'.

I took my mother to her GP yesterday, and the medical centre wasn't running too well - long waits, low on staff etc.

When I spoke to my mother's GP I was told that one of the admin staff's father had died from COVID two days ago and that one of the nurses tested positive yesterday.

Guess how many doctors. nurses, admin staff were wearing masks. Zero.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2023 at 4:15pm

Unbelievable isn't it?

Just like my aunt's medical practice (same place where my GP is) when I took her there for her flu shot last month.

3 receptionists - no masks.

3 or 4 GP's that I saw going in and out of their offices - no masks (one may have had a 'baggy blue' being used as a chin warmer).

My aunt's GP - no mask (last time we saw her late last year she was still wearing a high quality mask like ours).

My aunt and I were the only ones masked apart from one or two of the patients in the waiting area.

At least it wasn't as bad as when I last took my aunt there in November and the first thing the maskless receptionist said to us was "you don't need to wear those (masks) anymore".

Then I went to see my GP in December and one of the 3 maskless receptionists was hacking up a lung and blowing her nose every minute or two.

And all of this was going on while a "Masks must be worn inside this practice" sign was still on the front door (it's gone now, of course).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 5^th, 2023 at 4:18pm

you blokes spend way too much time at the doctors.

you are being farmed by the sick care system

time for some "personal responsibility" carl

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2023 at 5:18pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 5^th, 2023 at 5:19pm

aquascoot wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 4:18pm:

you blokes spend way too much time at the doctors.

you are being farmed by the sick care system

time for some "personal responsibility" carl

How's this for some "personal responsibility"?

https://twitter.com/aleximenez/status/1652776623500935169

Quote:

I spent around 11 HOURS with my elastomeric mask.

Took the subway, train, queue for couple hours, spend 2 hours in a concert, got back home... And I didn't faint, didn't have any breathing issues, I was able to communicate with people around me.

Just saying, is doable.

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Now show this post to your wife (and ask her to share it at work as well).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 9^th, 2023 at 12:13pm

Yes Tim, I couldn't agree more.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1655755445599096834

Quote:

11 Western Australians died from CVID last week

@MarkMcGowanMP
“urges” WA to protect the most vulnerable

That’s HIS JOB

Public Health is the responsibility of WA Govt BUT he’s lying to convince you it’s yours

Public Health is NOT an individual responsibility

It NEVER was

(By the way... Tim is using "CVID" because Twitter seems to be 'filtering out' a lot of Tweets that have Covid, COVID and COVID-19 in them lately. Other people are using different ways of saying it like C-vid, Kovid, etc.).

So much for Elon Musk's alleged "freedom of speech" with Twitter. ::)

"use your free RATs. That's what they are there for."

;D ;D ;D

No, Mark... this is what they're there for. ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

carl

you are a bigger zealot then sir nail.

and thats saying something

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 9^th, 2023 at 12:25pm

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

carl

you are a bigger zealot then sir nail.

and thats saying something

And yet you still you follow me around replying to my Covid posts like a little puppy dog wagging his tail.

Same as you do with Greg nearly every time he mentions Donald Trump.

:)

Oh, would you care to address the subject of my previous post? Probably not especially seeing as you're not in WA.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm

the superior man always feels a duty to try to calm an emotional and anxious child.

this is why i try to mentor you carl

its part of the obligation of the superior man to his fellow humans .

now repeat after me.

covid is a mild respiratory virus

personal responsibility is the way to deal with it.

write those lines 100 x for your homework please

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

For goodness sake don't buy any of these, Mark (McGowan).

You've already wasted enough of our money on useless, soon to expire RATs.

FDA Recalls 500,000 COVID Test Kits Due to Bacteria

Quote:

May 8, 2023 – As many as half a million at-home COVID tests are being recalled due to potential bacterial contamination.

The recalled tests are a variety called SD Biosensor, Inc. Pilot COVID-19 At-Home Tests. They were distributed by maker Roche Diagnostics to retailers CVS Health and Amazon, according to the FDA.

Accidental contact with the liquid in the test kit poses an infection risk, particularly for people with weakened immune systems. A recalled test also may have given an incorrect result, with the potential for a false positive or a false negative reading.

:o

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

write those lines 100 x for your homework please

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 11^th, 2023 at 8:50am

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Looks like it's time for Carl to try to mentor aquascoot.

Again.

Pay close attention.

https://twitter.com/SKGandhiMD/status/1654874857597960192

Quote:

COVID is NOT a respiratory virus. It is transmitted via the respiratory system but it is a vascular virus. Equating COVID to the flu is ignorant. This is not a new concept. For example – TB – it is spread through aerosols but affects the ENTIRE body.

Now YOU "write those lines 100 x for your homework please".

Oh, and here's another one for Baronvonrort and everyone else who believes masks don't work (and mention the Cochrane review regularly).

https://twitter.com/SKGandhiMD/status/1654874862551441408

Quote:

The Cochrane review on masks was a “really great review” – NO. It was fraught with methodological errors, even recognized by the authors. It does NOT mean masks don’t work.

You're welcome. :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 11^th, 2023 at 8:57am

Carl D wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 8:50am:

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Now it's time for Carl to try to mentor aquascoot.

Again.

Pay close attention.

https://twitter.com/SKGandhiMD/status/1654874857597960192

Quote:

Now YOU "write those lines 100 x for your homework please".

I agree with a lot of that statement

The covid virus seems to attack any area of weakness or inflammation within the body

For example if you have heart disease or diabetes which is already making your organs inflamed
Kovid is going to seek out those areas of inflammation and attack them

Everyone knows that
It's the whole concept of comorbidities which is established fact

So the sensible approach
And the approach which aqua scoot has always advised
Is to reduce the amount of inflammation in your body

Eating a super nutritious diet
Getting your diabetes cholesterol blood pressure smoking alcohol etc under control
Is crucial to how the virus will affect you

Hiding from the virus is not going to work
Taking personal responsibility to make yourself as robust as possible
Is the advice of the superior man

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm

Just picked up another 20 free RATs at Maddington Central shopping centre this afternoon. These ones expire in September.

I asked the young guy handing them out "how many are left in the warehouse now?" and he said "there's still about 2 full warehouses to get rid of".

I'm just wondering how much public housing could have been built with the nearly half a billion dollars which was spent by the WA government on all of these RATs (which wouldn't have been needed in the first place if our governments had done their jobs and kept the population safe from Covid)?

Here's my collection so far. The ones in the bags expired 4 days ago - I hadn't checked them all for a while (bin day on Tuesday).

The ones on the left are the 20 I got today.

And they're all probably next to useless for detecting the latest variants.

Would have been better if Mark (McGowan) had spent half a billion dollars on high quality masks which work for all Covid (and flu) variants as my elderly aunt and I (and the rest of the few remaining maskers in Perth) are proving.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 13^th, 2023 at 8:32pm

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

covid is a mild respiratory virus

personal responsibility is the way to deal with it.

Oh.

Not bleach in the lungs, sunshine up the arse, and a team of 12 doctors (including one who believes COVID is caused by demon sperm and alien DNA) monitoring you 24/7?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 13^th, 2023 at 10:00pm

aquascoot wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

covid is a mild respiratory virus

personal responsibility is the way to deal with it.

This "mild respiratory virus"?

https://twitter.com/Sunny_Rae1/status/1657293335948656641

Quote:

From the British Heart Foundation published yesterday - everything we’ve been warning about since 2021. Covid is NOT & never had been just a cold. It is damaging our blood vessels & ⬆️our risk of heart attacks, strokes &other CV disease. Please take care x

Is coronavirus a disease of the blood vessels?

Sir Nail and our other resident antivaxxers (who are always blaming all this on the Covid vaccines) should also read it.

But I'll bet they won't.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Sir lastnail on May 13^th, 2023 at 11:17pm

Carl D wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
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Post by Carl D on May 21^st, 2023 at 12:04pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 21^st, 2023 at 12:04pm

Had a bit of concern for myself yesterday when I had a bit of a sore thoat during the day.

It's gone today though.

Actually, I suspect it had a lot to do with the 'WA Department of Ecocide and Pyromaniacs' smothering the Perth metropolitan area with smoke over the past several days with their "prescribed burns".

Prescribed burns cause metro area to become blanketed in smoke

Friday afternoon was the worst, it looked like it was going to rain at one stage as it was so dark and the sun was a dark red/orange colour for most of the afternoon. We even had ash falling from the sky.

This happens every year and it severely affects people with asthma and other health issues. I've also heard a number of people die every year as a result of this smoke.

But, just like with Covid deaths the government doesn't care. Whatever is shown on the spreadsheet has to be burned on a particular day - unless it's raining, of course.

We might have some rain on Tuesday and Wednesday and perhaps the rest of the week as well. Bring it on - at least we'll be able to breathe for a while.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 21^st, 2023 at 2:55pm

Three La Ninas in a trott then a strong El Nino? Govt has no choice BUT to burn off.

But maybe spread the dates a bit?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 21^st, 2023 at 4:08pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 2:55pm:

Three La Ninas in a trott then a strong El Nino? Govt has no choice BUT to burn off.

But maybe spread the dates a bit?

Normally they try to avoid doing the burnoffs unless there's west/southwesterly winds blowing which takes the smoke inland and away from the Perth metropolitan area but we've had east/northeasterly winds for about a week now which does the opposite as we've seen the past few days.

I suspect they're in a hurry to burn off as much as possible before the rain sets in again (Tuesday or Wednesday at this stage). At least it's clear today, bit of cloud around and that's all so far - I'm guessing they have the day off today with it being Sunday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on May 21^st, 2023 at 4:16pm

As well as burning off—what about planting fire resistant trees?

Ash and elm are good, cork oak fine (other oak is as fire resistant as a Eucalypt) and oleander as well. Some natives.

Fruit trees, vege patches good—ember and grass fire obstacles.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21^st, 2023 at 5:54pm

Burn-offs usually start around this time of year. The smoke really gives my sinuses a good work out and I tend to have colds and influenza flare up.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 21^st, 2023 at 8:50pm

all land holders have a "personal responsibility' to prevent fuel build up on their land.

the only ones who dont take it seriously are the government forrestry reserves, national parks and greenies blocks.

they are usually choked with lantana and other undesirable undergrowth and go up like an atomic bomb, destroying everything

the farmer is the best friend the bush ever had

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 25^th, 2023 at 5:54pm

Went to our local chemist this morning to get some more prescription tablets for my aunt.

Very busy in there... apparently lots of people have suddenly decided it's time to get their flu (and maybe Covid) vaccinations.

Of course I was the only one there wearing a mask, not a single mask to be seen amongst the other customers and staff.

But there was plenty of hand sanitiser available to use though.

And the pharmacist also told me they were short staffed at the moment. I wonder why?

Speaking of masks... the Murdoch gutter media are at it again (or should I say STILL at it?).

https://twitter.com/theheraldsun/status/1661552693398339588

(the https://bit.ly/3OyI8fp link now goes to a different story but it doesn't matter since it was paywalled anyway).

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THE SOURCE: Australia’s self-appointed Covid compliance inspector Monique Ryan has finally laid down her mask and joined the 99 per cent of the population who’ve moved on from pandemic panic stations

Not surprising coming from the same trashy "news" paper that brought us this BS last October:

::) ::) ::)

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 9:47am

In a time of gaslighting that “COVID is over”, it’s left to independent media to tell the truth.

Indeed it is. This should be in every major newspaper around the country.

https://twitter.com/loobylouwales/status/1661861709982871553

Click on the 2 images to read the article.

"Queensland stopped public reporting of COVID cases and deaths this month, with NSW and Victoria reportedly expected to follow soon"

Not surprising with NSW reporting 69 deaths this week.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 26^th, 2023 at 3:44pm

Yes, please share far and wide. Like I will be doing over the weekend.

https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1661967153296474112

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Friends - if you can share what’s going on with your families, friends and work colleagues.

Many of them literally have no idea this is happening.

I'm absolutely certain most don't.

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Tim
@LettersfromTim
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WA COVID Report 26 May

New cases: 4,486 (+394)
Hospitalisations: 240 (+24)
ICU: 7 (+0)
Deaths: 30 (+25)

30 deaths - some as young as 39 years old

240 in hospital

@MarkMcGowanMP @CHO_WAHealth where are masks in health settings?

On public transport?

This is a CRISIS

It most certainly is.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 28^th, 2023 at 1:28pm

Front page and inside story of today's The Sunday Times.

Nice article... except...

1. They're implying that the flu is worse than Covid (anyone who said that 2 or 3 years ago would have been crucified).

2. They're implying this "rampant new strain" only (or mostly) affects children.

I'm also prepared to bet that most of the hospital admissions from this "rampant new strain" are probably Covid.

Anyway, I wonder if we'll see a few more people wearing masks in the coming weeks? No mention of masks in the article, of course.

I'm surprised they're not encouraging people to wash their hands more. Just the "vaccines only and let it rip" plan like we've seen with Covid. ::)

I did have an encouraging sign that mask use may be on the increase because when I caught the bus back from the shops an hour ago the bus driver and several other passengers besides me were wearing masks.

And the bus driver also had the bus's airconditioning turned on, it might have been just blowing air (from outside, hopefully) but it's more than I've seen on buses lately on the rare occasion I catch one.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on May 28^th, 2023 at 1:59pm

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

Strangely enough, a friend of mine who works up north rang me yesterday and said he's been bed-ridden with the flu for the last two weeks.

He had COVID earlier in the year and says that the flu was worse :-/

And yes, I've noticed more people wearing masks lately which is good.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 29^th, 2023 at 5:17am

Carl D wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

youre a conspiracy theorist ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:54am

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Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

youre a conspiracy theorist ;D ;D ;D ;D

Did Dr. Gerrard also tell you that in an email reply?

Is he still in the room with you now? ::)

Must be getting close to the time where you need to send me another white flag or two but please don't send them by Express Post (next day parcel delivery), I still haven't made room for all of the others that you (and Sir Nail) have sent me lately.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am

"Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson and WA’s top doctor, Dr Andy Robertson, have joined forces"

And what a great 'meeting of minds' that must have been. ::)

A Health Minister who knows more about business and hospitality than she does about health and a Chief Health Officer who's almost as useless as aquascoot's hero in Queensland (he's a lot less 'outspoken' than Dr. Gerrard but that's probably because Mark McGowan has him on a tighter 'leash' - like the rest of Australia's Premiers do with their CHO's).

Mind you, Dr. Gerrard has been a bit quiet lately as well so I wouldn't be surprised if Annastacia has tightened the 'leash' on him too.

Quote:

Dr Robertson said, “the best way to avoid getting the flu is to get a vaccination”.

No it isn't - the vaccinations help to a certain extent but they don't stop you catching and spreading the flu (or Covid). Just say it, d*head - wear a high quality mask.

The last time my elderly aunt and I had the flu was in 2019. We'd both had our flu vaccinations and we both caught the flu twice... and it was bad for us both times.

Quote:

“I also have some other very simple messages for the community this winter. If you are sick, stay home. Wash or sanitise your hands regularly, cover coughs, and, importantly, get vaccinated against flu and COVID-19,” Dr Robertson said.

Yep, just keep washing and sanitising those hands and I'm sure everything will be fine (if the government's plan is to continue the 'culling' of the elderly and vulnerable to save more money on pensions and healthcare costs).

I still feel sorry for the elderly people I see every time I go to Belmont Forum who dilgently sanitise their hands and shopping trolley handles (with the sanitiser helpfully provided at the entrances to Coles and Woolies) but never wear a mask. Especially when other people are coughing and sneezing nearby.

Heard a little kid constantly hacking up a lung in Woolies at Maddington Central on Saturday afternoon. I didn't see the kid or the parent(s) but I'm sure they must have been thinking that it was all perfectly normal. And I'll bet they weren't wearing masks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:47am

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am:

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

youre a conspiracy theorist ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're a conspiracy theorist Carl

You are saying the public hospitals are deliberately mislabeling kovid admissions as influenza admissions
You are every bit as crazy as last nail

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:08am

Perhaps aquascoot should shoot off another quick email to Dr. ~~Death~~ Gerrard and ask him what he plans to do about this?

Data reveals Queensland health crisis at worst-ever level as Palaszczuk government slammed for failing to heal 'broken system'

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Shocking new figures have revealed the declining state of Queensland’s healthcare system as ambulance ramping rates in the state climb to the worst across Australia.

The data shows the sunshine state’s health crisis at an all-time low with hundreds of thousands of Queenslanders bearing the brunt of under resourced public health services on a regular.

According to the statistics, service provision in hospitals across the state are severely delayed with patients having to wait “dangerously” long periods before being attended to.

Ambulance ramping is at a peak of 43 per cent (from a previously recorded high of 41 per cent in March), emergency department patients not seen within clinically recommended times have inched up to 29 per cent, and elective surgery patients not seen on time are up from 22 to 23.7 per cent.

And perhaps you should also ask Dr. Gerrard about what he believes is responsible for this?

Hint #1: 5 letters, starts with C and it isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. Could also now include a 3 letter word starting with F and that isn't mentioned either.

Hint #2: Both of these things could be controlled by wearing a mask.

Let's see what a few people have to say, shall we?

https://twitter.com/KatePri14608408/status/1662768199925104640

Scroll down for the replies.

Anyway... this is a WA Covid thread so 'normal service' will now be resumed.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on May 29^th, 2023 at 12:03pm

i asked dr gerrard what he thought about someone saying that hospital staff were faking diagnosis and putting down the flu when in fact it was covid.

he said only a nut job conspiracy theorist would say such a thing

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 2:23pm

So predictable.

From today's The West Australian.

Tucked away in the bottom left hand corner of page 12. The only mention of Covid I could find (might be a few more "post COVID" and "post pandemic" mentions in the business section but I didn't look that far).

Flu cases up... Covid cases down (only because hardly anyone is reporting their cases, of course).

Nothing about the 15 WA Covid deaths reported last week, of course. Or the 183 deaths for the whole of Australia or Australia passing 21,000 Covid deaths.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 2:30pm

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 8:55am:

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 5:17am:

youre a conspiracy theorist ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're a conspiracy theorist Carl

You are saying the public hospitals are deliberately mislabeling kovid admissions as influenza admissions
You are every bit as crazy as last nail

That's funny.

When COVID first started and the conspiracy theorists said that hospital staff were being paid to incorrectly record deaths as being caused by COVID, you agreed.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 3^rd, 2023 at 8:04pm

Honestly, there's definitely some real weirdness going on these days with a lot of people and it seems to be getting worse.

My aunt and I were sitting on a seat outside Woolworths at Maddington Central this afternoon, wearing our masks as usual and I was watching a guy who was about to go into the nearby chemist.

Before he went in he looked at me and pulled his black shirt or jumper over his mouth and nose to make it look like he had a mask on (I guess?) then he pulled it down again, nodded and went into the chemist.

A couple of minutes later he came out again with his wife or girlfriend and they walked right past my aunt and I without saying a word. I was looking at him but he avoided eye contact with both of us and just kept walking.

I wonder - as well as warding off vampires and werewolves does garlic also ward off Covid zombies because they seem to be on the increase. :o

Might have to take some with me next time I'm shopping and find out. :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 5^th, 2023 at 2:09pm

Went up to Belmont Forum this morning to do a bit of shopping. Public holiday (WA Day) today so most of the the shops were not open until 11am. They could have opened at 8am like Coles and Woolies but it's not very busy early on - especially with the weather we're having at the moment.

Saw very few people besides myself wearing a mask, of course.

They were giving away more of Mark McGowan's half a billion dollars worth of RATs at the Forum all last week before they expire. I grabbed quite a few for myself during the week, these ones expire in February 2024.

Yesterday (Sunday) was the last day they were giving them away at the Forum. When I went there this morning the desk was still there but what made me laugh was there were still dozens of RATs behind the desk with the trolleys they were using to take them away.

I immediately thought of government workers - they must have been watching the clock just before knock off time yesterday and as soon as it was exactly 5pm (or whatever time they finished) they would have gone home and left the rest of the RATs until Tuesday. ;D

Mind you, they might also have been hoping that people will help themselves to the ones still there today so they don't have to move them all tomorrow.. if I'd wanted a few more I would have grabbed them myself.. lol.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 3:12pm

Complacent indeed.

Two articles from today's The West Australian.

The one on the left was on page 3 but it 'conveniently' doesn't mention Covid deaths and hospitalisations.

"Almost 75 percent of Australians believed that a year from now, COVID would be viewed in a similar way to seasonal flu".

I wonder if it would still be 75 percent if everyone read the smaller article on the right which was neatly 'tucked away' in the bottom right hand corner of page 66?

Oh how I long for the days when ONE SINGLE COVID CASE escaping from hotel quarantine made front page news.

Also, the free RATs at Belmont Forum were still there this week. I asked the lady behind the counter on Wednesday and she said their last day was this Sunday, not last Sunday.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 3:50pm

While I'm here...

The weekly "Top 10" from Perth Lord Mayor (and total idiot) Basil Zempilas in today's paper.

#4 tells us all we need to know (and many of us have known it for a long time).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:11pm

"2020 just called and they want their brochure back"

At this point in time I believe it is pretty safe to say the WA Department of Health is just trolling.

Same as every other Health Department in Australia (especially Queensland's, eh, aquascoot?).

https://twitter.com/EcuNurse/status/1668497676932116482

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This is the WA Government’s Health Promotion Brochure to prevent COVID, influenza and other respiratory infections

Quote:

Believe it or not, it was produced by Immunisation Program, Dept of Health, WA, and is currently. available for you to read at your local GP.
It advises you to get your influenza vaccine.
No mention of a COVID vaccine.
Disgraceful.

And no mention of masks of course... what a surprise. ::)

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Maythewaybewithyou
@Maythewaybewit1
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Why isn’t it a picture of people masked up in N95 and smiling like normal?
Because washing your hands is just basic hygiene it’s not getting prevent you getting an airborne virus like flu or covid.

Yes, we know. And our governments know too.

But, masks allegedly remind people that the pandemic isn't over and stops them spending and we can't have that now, can we?

Edit:

https://twitter.com/ACSQHC/status/1668401589193768968

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The latest #handhygiene audit results are out! National compliance is 86.3%, above the 80% benchmark.

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Dominic Meagher
@dom_ma
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Great news that only 13.4% of Australian health practitioners are yet to catch up to the 1850s!
At this rate we’ll have the current airborne pandemic mostly under control by the 2190s

Funny but probably true.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:21am

McClown put the fear of death into the bedwetters from WA.

Did he say he would crush covid?

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Post by Carl D on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 8:23am

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Post by Carl D on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 8:24am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 14^th, 2023 at 12:21am:

McClown put the fear of death into the bedwetters from WA.

Did he say he would crush covid?

And he did.

For 2 years.

Until he was bullied by business into finally reopening WA's border in March last year.

Result: 1,101 WA Covid deaths since then.

WA had 9 Covid deaths for the 2 years up until then (caused by international and interstate arrivals and quarantine breaches, of course).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 4:13pm

Submersibles imploding (although it was just missing when this was printed).

People still dying from COVID-19 (149 this week including another 4 in WA).

People can't afford their rents and mortgages.

Etc., etc.

And, the big "news" story (according to yesterday's The West Australian anyway) was..... *drum roll*...

"Tay-Tay" isn't coming to Perth for a concert. ::)

5 concerts in Sydney and Melbourne only next February at this stage.

It was on pages 4 and 5 but it probably would have made it onto pages 2 and 3 if the full 2 page Hardly Normal ad hadn't taken the spot first.

They even went to great pains to let us know that WA Tourism Minister Rita Saffioti's 11 year old daughter is a big Tay-Tay fan and is most upset and wants her to reconsider coming to Perth.

Cry me a river.

Meanwhile, "fans" are apparently rushing to book flights to Sydney and Melbourne for next February and they're worried the airlines are now going to increase fares and rip them off... lol... they probably will.

This world is seriously screwed up without a shadow of a doubt.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 4:26pm

Oh, I haven't been around much this week and might not be for a while.

My 93 year old aunt slipped and fell when she was going to the toilet just before midnight Sunday.

She's now in Royal Perth Hospital, she had operations for a fractured left hip and wrist on Wednesday and she's doing OK at the moment.

The biggest worry of course is Covid and the flu and I wasn't exactly filled with enthusiasm when I went in there Tuesday evening to talk to the doctors before the operations the following day... hardly any staff wearing masks (I was wearing mine of course and they still had my aunt's mask on at the time as well) and the few that were had 'baggy blues' mostly hanging under their noses and chins.

Heard a few spicy coughs here and there as well... especially from the waiting patients when I walked through the waiting area of the Emergency Department to get to where my aunt and the doctors were at the time.

Freaking unbelievable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:07pm

Broken hip—not good at your Aunt’s age! Not even now! And covid will strike her, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:23pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 4:26pm:

Sorry to hear that - I hope she's doing okay.

I guess they'll put her up in 7A.

They put the COVID patients up the end of the corridor in that ward. Stay away from those end rooms ;)

Usually a few trolleys around with lots of good quality masks, so make use of those.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:35pm

Hey, Greg.

Thanks.

She was in 5G when I went to see her yesterday and she was still there this morning when the hospital pharmacist called to ask about what tablets and other medications she takes.

She was next to the window when I went yesterday - the original helipad was right outside (they've built a new one a couple of years back as you probably know).

The plan now is to get her walking again as soon as possible of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:54pm

Good—she is making a good recovery!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:01pm

Thanks JM. I hope so.

My cousin and his wife were going to visit her this afternoon and a couple of my friends (my former boss from Fairlanes Bowl and his wife actually) plan to see her on Sunday afternoon.

She's only allowed to have 2 visitors at a time - and she insists we don't go and visit her every day.. lol.. we really couldn't manage it anyway but I'll probably go and see her on Monday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by John Smith on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 6:03pm

Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck Carl. Hope your aunt makes a speedy recovery.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 7:06pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 5:35pm:

Ah yes, my mother has been in that room a few times, back when the helicopter actually used that helipad :)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 7:53pm

I probably came across a bit blunt but fractured hips at that age are not good news.I certainly DO hope she recovers!

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 23^rd, 2023 at 11:27pm

Thanks, JM. No problem.

Thanks John and Greg.

I received an email from my cousin and his wife earlier this evening after they visited my aunt today. She's already on her feet and she walked 'around the block' (presumably the ward) with the nurse today and she's doing fine so far.

In fact, her wrist seems to be giving her more trouble than her hip. Might visit her again on Monday on the way back from her GP after I go there to pick up a couple of new scripts for my aunt's tablets that she has daily.

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Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

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Post by Carl D on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

Did a bit of shopping at Belmont Forum a couple of hours ago.

I looked and looked but I did not see anyone apart from me wearing a mask.

What a total (deliberate) public health messaging failure by our governments with the flu and Covid still running rampant and a couple of new variants (Eris and Fornax) already spreading around the world and now spreading in Australia.

Take a bow, Australian pollies (Labor and Liberal). I'm sure your big business masters are proud of you. "Masks are sand in the gears of the economy" (according to them).

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1696015946924896763#m

“But neither variant seems to cause more severe disease than earlier Omicron strains which were themselves less virulent than the pre-Omicron variants,” Dr Joel Zinberg wrote for the NY Post last week.

Fails to mention omicron is responsible for most of the deaths worldwide…

Yep.

And, I bet if I asked any of the coughing, spluttering people I heard and saw when I was shopping (some of them sounded like they were hacking up a lung) I'm sure they would all say something like "Oh, it's just a cold".

Unbelievable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 10^th, 2023 at 9:39am

Looks like Covid and it's deaths have "magically" disappeared in WA.

No Covid report for last week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

And you can bet that the 41 deaths reported for Australia could at least be doubled due to several States now "hiding" the numbers.

Tim here wants to know why there was no WA report. In fact, he asked twice.

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1700105645838737827#m

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Western Australia did not report COVID data today

Why @RogerCookMLA ?

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1700336838639300782#m

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I’ll ask again @RogerCookMLA

Why is there no update for Western Australia?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 8:39am

Needless to say, Tim never received a reply from Roger. ::)

Makes me wonder why these pollies even bother having social media accounts because they never reply to anyone (except to themselves when they have more BS to add to a previous post).

Of course we all know they don't post (or read) anything themselves - they have a (probably overpaid) social media 'team' to deal with all that.

And, I will ask again - what is the point of telling people to "use personal responsibility" (lol) and "assess their own risk" (lol again) regarding Covid when governments are slowly but surely removing the data and information needed for them to do so (even if they were capable of doing so or even cared)?

Once again, the "lols" are because we've all seen how well "personal responsibilty" works with a population the majority of whom have the attention span of a goldfish and can't think any further ahead than what's for dinner tonight or what's on Netflix or when they can take their next overseas or interstate holiday.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 10^th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Western Australia did not report COVID data today

Why @RogerCookMLA ?

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1700336838639300782#m

[quote]I’ll ask again @RogerCookMLA

Why is there no update for Western Australia?

Hope you're not holding your breath waiting for Roger to reply, Tim.

At least my elderly aunt is now home to stay and safe after her fall 3 months ago.

As an example of how 99% of the population have been deceived into believing Covid is mild or over I went with my aunt to Royal Perth Hospital on Thursday morning for a follow up appointment after her surgery on June 21st.

The only mask I saw apart from ours was one surgical baggy blue being worn under the chin by one staff member.

Unbelievable.[/quote]

Hi there Carl if 99% of the people are not wearing a mask
And you are .then perhaps it is you who would be found unbelievable

I know you are a big fan of the West coast eagles and AFL
Nearly 1 million people going to go to a live final in the next three weeks
It is doubtful that a single one of them will be wearing a mask
You really are terribly out of touch with real Australia

As a side note my non mask wearing partner has informed me that official Queensland health policy is that staff do not need a covid booster
That's right Carl
The science has told my wife who works in a hospital
That there is no case for her to receive a booster

Believe the science Karl
Stop being a conspiracy theorist and rejoin society
You and your aunt may still be able to get tickets to a final
And you will be able to go and participate in some human flourishing

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 11:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Hi there Carl if 99% of the people are not wearing a mask
And you are .then perhaps it is you who would be found unbelievable

"When the whole world is running towards a cliff, he who is running in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind"

- C.S. Lewis.

As for the rest of your word salad:

"What a load of bollocks"

- Carl D.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 11:17pm

Oh, and...

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

As a side note my non mask wearing partner has informed me that official Queensland health policy is that staff do not need a covid booster
That's right Carl
The science has told my wife who works in a hospital
That there is no case for her to receive a booster

That's probably because we're waiting for our useless Federal government to order some new vaccines because the ones we have at the moment are almost totally ineffective against the new variants that are now spreading.

FDA signs off on updated COVID boosters. Here's what to know about the new vaccine shots for fall 2023.

Quote:

The Food and Drug Administration signed off on updated COVID-19 vaccine and booster shots Monday, moving one step closer to making the new shots available for the public to get boosted for the fall virus season.. The decision comes amid an increase in COVID hospitalizations and concern about the spread of several new variants.

But... you know... give them time (especially since the pandemic is supposed to over according to our governments and big business). ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 11:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Hi there Carl if 99% of the people are not wearing a mask
And you are .then perhaps it is you who would be found unbelievable

incorrect.

if a million people are doing one thing and you arent, its highly probable that YOU are the idiot.

not always, but 99.999999% of the time.

you over estimate your intelligence carl

now, have you booked your flights to melbourne for the grand final where you can re enter normal society ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 12:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Meanwhile:

"On Friday 1 September 2023, Queensland Health opened consultation on the requirement for its employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

"Consultation follows a recent review, which took into consideration the changing nature of COVID-19, expert health opinion, the safety of employees and patients, all legislative requirements and a range of other factors.

"Queensland Health has invited its employees, union partners and patient safety advocacy groups to provide their feedback within a two-week period, with consultation closing on Monday 18 September 2023.

"Any decision that comes out of consultation will have their employees' and patients' safety top of mind. An outcome is expected by the end of September."

In the interim:

"Health service employees must be up-to-date with their COVID-19 vaccinations.

"Health service employees are any Queensland Health employees employed under the Hospital and Health Boards Act 2011 in Hospital and Health Services and the Department of Health."

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 1:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

up to date currently means

NO NEED FOR BOOSTERS :D :D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 16^th, 2023 at 11:40pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 8:39am:

And, I will ask again - what is the point of telling people to "use personal responsibility" (lol) and "assess their own risk" (lol again) regarding Covid when governments are slowly but surely removing the data and information needed for them to do so (even if they were capable of doing so or even cared)?

Once again, the "lols" are because we've all seen how well "personal responsibilty" works with a population the majority of whom have the attention span of a goldfish and can't think any further ahead than what's for dinner tonight or what's on Netflix or when they can take their next overseas or interstate holiday.

From the letters section of today's The West Australian.

I rest my case.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 3:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

I was reading yesterday about nurses and healthcare workers somewhere overseas who, after an average of 5 Covid infections are either too ill to work anymore (Long Covid) or they've just had enough of being sick all the time so they've quit.

Might have been Canada or the UK, can't remember where.

Doesn't bode well for healthcare, does it? Too many sick people and not enough nurses and other staff to care for them because they're also sick and/or quitting in large numbers.

I also read something the other day where an ex virologist believes that if today's insane amount of air travel had been around during the time of the 'Spanish' flu (1918-1920) then more than a billion people could have died.

That would have almost been an ELE (Extinction Level Event) when you consider the world population at the time was 1.8 billion, don't you think?

(The death toll from the 'Spanish' flu was estimated to have been 17 million to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, 17 million would have been 1% of the world's population at the time).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 5:32pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 3:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

i'n calling BS on that ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 5:53pm

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 5:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

i'n calling BS on that ::) ::)

This isn't what I was reading the other day but close enough.

First major survey of doctors with Long Covid reveals debilitating impact on health, life and work

4 July 2023

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Lost jobs, lost income, debilitating symptoms that render even the most mundane tasks near-impossible, and huge barriers to accessing treatment: these are the repeated stories of UK doctors living with Long Covid, in response to a major survey from the BMA.

Quote:

Key findings include:

Doctors reported a wide range of symptoms, including fatigue, headaches, muscular pain, nerve damage, joint pain, ongoing respiratory problems and many more.
Around 60% of doctors told the BMA that post-acute Covid ill health has impacted on their ability to carry out day-to-day activities on a regular basis;
Almost one in five respondents (18%) reported that they were now unable to work due to their post-acute Covid ill-health;
Less than one in three (31%) doctors said they were working full-time, compared to more than half (57%) before the onset of their illness;
Nearly half (48%) said they have experienced some form of loss of earnings as a result of post-acute Covid;
54% of respondents acquired Covid-19 during the first wave of the pandemic in 2020, and 77% of these believed that they contracted Covid -19 in the workplace;
A small minority of doctors had access to respiratory protective equipment (RPE) around the time that they contracted Covid-19, with only 11% having access to an FFP2 respirator and 16% an FFP3 respirator;
More than 65% of doctors responding said their post-acute Covid symptoms had not been investigated thoroughly and effectively by an NHS long Covid clinic or centre. And almost half of doctors reported not even being referred to an NHS long Covid clinic at all.

In fact, it appears to be a lot worse than what I read the other day.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 10:41am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Psst... hey, aqua...

https://nitter.net/AndrewHewat/status/1703790364497461288#m

Quote:

PH policy makers, health leaders, hospital CEOs and administrators need to be held accountable for failures to adequately protect patients.
The law suits are coming. It didn't need to come to this but patients are dying as a consequence of IPAC failures leading to HAIs and death.

https://nitter.net/yaneerbaryam/status/1703770243594633502#m

Quote:

Physicians and healthcare institutions can be held responsible for hospital acquired COVID infections.

Please bring this lawsuit outcome to the attention of healthcare organizations in Europe, and around the world.

And coming soon to Australia hopefully.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 10:53am

I noticed my 93 year old aunt was coughing a bit and sneezing occasionally on the weekend so I did a RAT for her on Sunday afternoon (2 actually, half an hour apart) and she's tested positive for Covid.

After avoiding it for so long some irresponsible f*head has given it to her. I've tested myself on Sunday, Monday and this morning and so far I've tested negative.

I'm pretty sure I know where she caught it and I intend to have a little 'chat' with them next time we go up there because she was maskless for about 2 hours when she was there last Wednesday and no one else masks of course even though there's LOTS of elderly people around (it wasn't the transition care place she came home from Friday before last by the way).

Got my aunt started on a 5 day course of antivirals (Molnupiravir) yesterday after getting the script from her GP and picking it up from the chemist.

She seems OK so far apart from the occasional cough, I'll test her again tomorrow. No doubt our 5 Covid vaccinations also help.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 11:03am

Oh, and this is where we're currently at with the massive (deliberate) failure and total lack of information/communication that used to be known as Public Health.

Had a call from one of my friends yesterday, he sounded terrible on the phone... coughing with the occasional sneeze and I said "wow, that sounds bad" and he said "you should have heard me a couple of weeks ago".

He said that one of the employees where he works came in sick a couple of weeks ago and within a short time nearly everyone working there was also sick. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their customers were also sick (this is a very busy entertainment business).

I asked if he or anyone else had tested themselves for Covid and he said "nope" (and he has some free RATs at home but he never bothered to test).

Total.Public.Health.Messaging.Failure (apart from telling everyone to keep washing their hands, of course).

Unbelievable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 12:28pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

The anitivirals will clear it up. They worked well on my mother.

Speaking of which, she's in RPH and there are at least 8 people on her floor with COVID (isolated in 2 rooms).

One or two nurses and doctors are wearing masks, but most staff and visitors aren't.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 2:28pm

Hi Greg.

I hope your mother is OK at RPH again. As I said in an earlier post I went with my aunt to RPH a couple of weeks back for a follow up appointment after her surgery on June 21st.

Apart from us the only other mask I saw was a 'baggy blue' worn under the chin by one staff member.

Just got back from Morley Galleria where I collected another big bag full of RATs that the WA Government spent half a billion dollars on and they now have to give them away before they expire (these ones are good until March).

One thing I noticed - I saw more people wearing masks in the half hour I was at the Galleria than I've seen in a whole week at Belmont Forum.

I may have to move house or just drive over and shop there all the time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 4:00pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

I just got back from RPH.

Looks like my mother will be discharged tomorrow.

I was happy to see most of the nurses and doctors wearing masks today - not all of them, but the vast majority.

More visitors had them on today too, but they're still in the minority.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 20^th, 2023 at 10:51am

Well, here's this morning's RAT results.

P is my aunt and C is me, of course. These were done about an hour ago.

I was actually up at 1am because I'd been feeling a bit 'off' last night with a slight sore throat as well as a slight headache so I did a RAT then which showed negative and this morning's is also negative.

Might have been hayfever plus having to wear a mask indoors for the past few days which does tend to give me a slight headache sometimes.

My aunt will be on day 3 of the antivirals today, she's still fine (or at least she says she is) apart from the occasional cough.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 21^st, 2023 at 9:10am

After feeling a bit crook on Tuesday evening and all day yesterday I would have been very surprised if this hadn't shown up when I tested myself at 9 last night. The test that I did before it was about 8 hours earlier but I was sure I could see a very faint T line even then.

Of course the WA Health Department "recommends" that I stay indoors for 5 days until symptoms clear and I test negative, same as what was "recommended" for my 93 year old aunt.

But, I dunno... maybe I should just walk maskless around Belmont Forum later this morning and "spread the love"?

After all, our governments can't force people to stay home anymore when they're Covid positive in this new era of "personal responsibility" and "you do you".

What say you, aquascoot? Would that be "following the science"?

Mind you, knowing my luck I'd probably pick up a different variant from some sick, hacking up a lung maskless twat if I did that and we'd be back to square one.

By the way - I would NEVER do something like that but I'm saying it to make a point (I'm sure most regular posters here already knew that). I'm masking right now as I type this.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 22^nd, 2023 at 9:40am

I find it fascinating that since informing our immediate neighbours that my aunt and I have Covid they are now avoiding us "like the plague".

And, in the recent past some of them have said things like "no one else wears masks anymore so I won't bother", "masks are uncomfortable" and "well, if I catch it (Covid) then I catch it".

One or two didn't even know that Covid was still around "oh, I thought that was over?"

If Covid is just a "mild respiratory illness" (as aquascoot likes to tell us over and over) or it's just a "cold" then why would our neighbours behave like that now?

Can science explain it? ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 25^th, 2023 at 11:20pm

And... here we go with WA about to join Queensland and New South Wales in no longer recording Covid cases from positive RATs.

COVID-19 coronavirus: WA free RAT program

Last updated: 25 September 2023

Quote:

WA's free Rapid Antigen Test (RAT) distribution program has concluded.

Depending on stock, free RATs may still be available from Electorate Offices of Members of Parliament. Please call ahead to ask about the availability of free RATs before visiting.

Wonder if places like Red Dot are going to start ripping people off again by selling them for $10 per test like they were doing before the WA government started giving them away for free last year?

Lucky I still have about 100 (20 boxes, 5 tests per box) that I picked up from Morley Galleria last week, they don't expire until mid March.

Quote:

There is no longer a requirement for the Western Australian community to register positive RAT results with the WA Department of Health, in line with other States and Territories. The RAT Register will cease recording results by the end of September 2023.

Yes, of course. No more testing and reporting, no more cases. Donald Trump would be so proud. Mind you, I doubt many people were testing and reporting anyway because they think that all they have is a "cold".

Makes me wonder why I even bothered to report our (my aunt and I) positive RATs last week.

I'm guessing its almost impossible to get a PCR test too these days. If you could it would no doubt cost $$$$$.

So predictable... as I said in that other thread... one State starts with BS like this and the others soon follow.

And, how about the timing, eh? Just as another huge Covid wave is about to sweep the country with several new variants which appear to be the most infectious and (outdated) vaccine and (short lived) immunity after being infected avoiding variants yet.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Oct 3^rd, 2023 at 10:13am

Well, will you look at that?

Finally.... 13 days after I first tested positive (I still tested slightly positive 2 days ago).

I haven't tested my aunt for over a week but because she caught it several days before me I'm sure she would also test negative now.

And idiots like the former NSW Premier, Dominic Perrottet, "led the charge" at the Secret Squirrel National Cabinet to reduce the isolation time from 7 days to 5 days (and then scrapped it altogether).

Even 7 days was nowhere near long enough to ensure people were no longer infectious. 10 should have been the minimum.

No wonder Covid is completely out of control now.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:57am

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Post by Carl D on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:58am

lol... like that's EVER going to happen.

Scientists warn Coldplay fans to dust off face masks ahead of Perth concerts

Quote:

When Coldplay entertains more than 100,000 concert-goers at Optus Stadium they will be joined by billions of other living organisms - a soup of highly transmissible COVID variants floating around the crowd.

Prominent epidemiologists have cautioned the public to take extra precautions as the latest figures from WA Health showed case numbers were steadily rising in the state as the British rock groups’ World of Spheres tour gets ready to kick off.

Quote:

University of Western Australia epidemiologist Zoe Hyde said anyone attending the concert should wear a mask, preferably an N95, on public transport and at the stadium.

Hyde, who has never been infected with COVID, said wearing a mask every time you leave the house was one of the best ways to avoid the virus.

“It’s a very simple principle,” she said. “If you don’t breathe the virus in you’re not going to get sick.”

Nice try, Zoe. But, when you have a Premier (who should just stick to politics and not be out and about doing maskless photo ops 3 or 4 days after testing positive for Covid like he was just recently) and a Chief Health Officer who both keep telling everyone to "wash their hands", "cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze" and "stay home if you're feeling unwell" with no mention of wearing masks then I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing 100,000 masks at Optus Stadium on the 18th and 19th of November.

In fact, I'd be surprised if we saw 10.

Not sure why this is in The Sydney Morning Herald? I wonder if it will be in our The West Australian this week? My guess: Probably not. I haven't seen it in there for the past 3 days.

Oh, and "dust off face masks" is hilarious. "Buy some" would be more like it because I'm absolutely certain the maskless hordes I see when I'm shopping don't have any masks stashed away at home in case they suddenly decided they needed them.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:49pm

While aquascoot's hero fumbles around in Queensland (obviously not wanting to upset Annastacia and the tourism industry) at least a bit of Covid common sense is returning to WA.

For now, at least.

Masks back in force at Perth hospitals as COVID cases grow

Quote:

An increase in COVID-19 cases across Perth will mean staff and patients in parts of Perth hospitals are required to wear masks again from Monday.

Anyone in high-risk hospital clinical areas including haematology, oncology, organ transplant and renal dialysis and intensive care units will need to wear a surgical mask.

Quote:

WA’s Chief Health Officer Dr Andy Robertson said cases had been increasing since early September, with the Omicron XBB variant EG.5 circulating.

“It’s an expected part of the ongoing evolution of COVID-19 in the community as people’s immunity wanes over time,” he said.

“Given the increase in COVID hospitalisations and health staff off sick, health service providers have agreed on consistent mask recommendations across our public health system.”

This needs to be extended to all healthcare and aged care settings and they really should be using proper masks like N95/P2 but at least surgical "baggy blues" are better than nothing.

Let's see how long the mask wearing lasts this time.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 7:49pm

Some more real science here from Dr. Berger:

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1725412361555849700#m

Quote:

1. Every part of a hospital is high risk.
2. It's airborne. Need N95s.

Yes.

And "yes" to this reply:

Quote:

Don't Inhale Virus
@DontInhaleVirus
2h
Replying to @YouAreLobbyLud @Flinty_01
3. People with no symptoms can often be contagious.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:17pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

lol... like that's EVER going to happen.

Scientists warn Coldplay fans to dust off face masks ahead of Perth concerts

Quote:

[quote]University of Western Australia epidemiologist Zoe Hyde said anyone attending the concert should wear a mask, preferably an N95, on public transport and at the stadium.

Hyde, who has never been infected with COVID, said wearing a mask every time you leave the house was one of the best ways to avoid the virus.

“It’s a very simple principle,” she said. “If you don’t breathe the virus in you’re not going to get sick.”

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 9:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Meh, if we lose a few Coldplay fans does it really matter? :-/

Nope. Not to me. I still have no idea whatsoever why they are so popular?

(From 4 days ago):

Scientists warn Coldplay fans to dust off face masks ahead of Perth concerts

Quote:

University of Western Australia epidemiologist Zoe Hyde said anyone attending the concert should wear a mask, preferably an N95, on public transport and at the stadium.

Sorry, Zoe... as I predicted it didn't look like there were too many masks being worn. Would have been the same for both concerts.

https://twitter.com/10NewsFirstPER/status/1726169119702094207

In fact, I couldn't see a single mask in the entire video. What a surprise.

Kinda like playing Where's Wally/Waldo? but about 10,000 times more difficult.

Expect to see a lot of social media posts over the next few weeks with comments like "I went to the Coldplay concert and now I have this weird cold/flu, does anyone know what it might be? Is it something new that's going around?" ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 9:54am

lol... déjà vu.

Same thing happened last year (except Covid probably wasn't as rampant then as it is now).

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1726376679503962279#m

Quote:

Western Australia: "There are fears schoolies week could become a super-spreader of COVID-19, as thousands flock to Dunsborough to party."

Click on the images to read the article because it is paywalled if you use the direct link. If you get a Nitter "Page not found" error just keep trying.

Quote:

Both Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson and chief health officer Andy Robertson urged revellers to take precautions as weekly COVID-19 infections pass the 500 mark.

"urged revellers to take precautions" ;D ;D ;D

"weekly COVID-19 infections pass the 500 mark" ;D ;D ;D (try 50,000 at least).

Quote:

Maddie
@136sooverit62
36m
Replying to @BigBadDenis @RogerCookMLA @CHO_WAHealth
OMG did they not see the Cold Play concert.

And, just like the Coldplay concerts I guarantee not a single mask will be seen during "Schoolies Week".

And, again... I'm sure there will be lots of "I've got some sort of weird cold or flu" social media posts in the weeks afterwards. ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 12:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

lol... like that's EVER going to happen.

Scientists warn Coldplay fans to dust off face masks ahead of Perth concerts

Quote:

Meh, if we lose a few Coldplay fans does it really matter? :-/[/quote]

charming

and yet if someone says
if we lose a few nursing home patients, gweg and carl become apoplectic with rage

one does detect a certain hypocricy in the loonie left.

try to be a more positive, optomistic, fun loving person ...like donny for instance

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 12:31pm:

and yet if someone says
if we lose a few nursing home patients, gweg and carl become apoplectic with rage

6,000 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic, 1,233 deaths this year (so far).

Quote:

one does detect a certain hypocricy in the loonie left.

I'm not a "lefty". Well, not anynore. Not after it finally dawned on me that there's no difference between Labor and Liberal anymore. Hasn't been for quite some time but it has become blatantly obvious over the past few years.

But, even when I was a "lefty" I definitely didn't consider myself to be a "loonie" one.

Quote:

try to be a more positive, optomistic, fun loving person ...like donny for instance

Donny Osmond? Nah, I don't have the teeth for it. Mind you, they're quite good for my age but they're nothing like Donny's pearly white gnashers.

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 9:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Meh, if we lose a few Coldplay fans does it really matter? :-/

Nope. Not to me. I still have no idea whatsoever why they are so popular?

(From 4 days ago):

Scientists warn Coldplay fans to dust off face masks ahead of Perth concerts

Quote:

University of Western Australia epidemiologist Zoe Hyde said anyone attending the concert should wear a mask, preferably an N95, on public transport and at the stadium.

Some close friends of mine went to Coldplay last night (I turned down the ticket they offered me) and I've told them (nicely) to keep away from me for at least a week.

They understand why, and are perfectly happy with my request.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:18pm

From today's The West Australian.

I also missed the warning about Coldplay but there was lots of news coverage about schoolies week. Funny about that.

And I was right - it would have been about 10,000 times more difficult than playing Where's Wally/Waldo? to find Andrew's mask in the crowd.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Setanta on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:28pm

My old man is in a nursing home in Midland. Mum said they had a testing centre out the front to check people before they were allowed in, they recently removed it and Covid went through the nursing home. Dad caught it, still kicking and I'll be over that way in early Dec to see him, probs for the last time.

And I'd like to ask you all to kindly keep your bugs away from me while I'm there. I haven't had Covid yet that I know of.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:32pm

people go to coldplay to thrive

if you are about surviving and not thriving, stay home

stay safe ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:28pm:

That's rough, Set.

I hope he pulls through okay.

On reflection, I'm pretty sure my father died from COVID when he passed away in the nursing home last year.

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Post by Carl D on Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 7:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 6:28pm:

That's rough, Set.

I hope he pulls through okay.

On reflection, I'm pretty sure my father died from COVID when he passed away in the nursing home last year.

I hope your father is OK, Setanta.

That's the problem with our hospitals and aged care places - when they have a Covid outbreak masks and other protections are brought back but as soon as it's under control they start to 'relax' again... no masks or other precautions taken until the next outbreak.

I saw the same thing happening at the transition care place my aunt was in for 2 months before she came home in early September but at least they had mandatory negative RATs for visitors and staff the whole time she was there (even though you can have Covid and be infectious for up to 2 days before RATs show a positive result).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 24^th, 2023 at 11:31am

Why am I not surprised?

Louisa Wales - X/Twitter (Nitter)

Quote:

In a busy Western Australian tertiary hospital ED this evening and I can confirm the “return to masks” in hospital settings is nothing more than a press release.

Louisa writes articles for a local paper so I'm hoping she'll be able to have one published about this.

I'm sure she will also let John Flint at The West Australian know. John has had several honest Covid articles published in The West Australian and The Sunday Times over the past few weeks.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:34pm

Well... well... well...

... imagine seeing something like this after 2 huge Coldplay concerts at Optus Stadium the weekend before last and School Leavers Week last week.

COVID-19 wastewater surveillance

Makes an absolute mockery of our hapless State Health Minister, Amber-Jade Sanderson and equally incompetent Premier Roger Cook being "concerned" about Covid cases in WA getting close to 500 per week.

As I've said before.... 50,000 new cases per week would probably be closer to the real number if everyone was getting tested and they could report their positive RATs.

And, I'm betting most of these cases are re-infections.

Here's an interesting discussion about this:

Anne-Marie Newton - X/Twitter (Nitter)

Quote:

Latest @WAHealth C0VID-19 wastewater surveillance for Perth metro (24 Nov).

Folks, we have gone from bad to worse.

Highest it's been all year - WAY higher than mid-year wave.

Still going up.

Quote:

I note this wastewater result follows the Coldplay weekend, and some of Leavers' week. And the December Xmas parties haven't even started 😳

What a disaster. When can we expect to see the "soft landing" that former WA Premier Mark McGowan said we were going to have when he finally caved in and opened WA's border over 18 months ago?

We haven't even "landed" yet and nearly 1,300 West Australians have died from Covid so far.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:56pm

think you are talking crap carl

there is heaps of covid around brisbane at the moment and my missus hospital ward is down to 9 patients

they are offering staff not to come in because it is quiet

clearly the new covid is a piss weak virus not worth worrying about

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 7:00pm

dr gerrard (world reknowned expert) confirms

Dr Gerrard said the current admissions were still much lower in comparison to Queensland's two large COVID waves in 2022, which saw hospitalisations peak at about 1,000 patients, alongside two smaller waves which saw about 500 people admitted the same year.

should we believe the science or carls loopy twitter hypochoncdriac friends ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 7:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

While I'm absolutely certain it's "quiet" in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population:10) that doesn't seem to be the case for the rest of the State.

Queensland paramedics are being so run off their feet they’re skipping meals on shift.

Quote:

Dan Jago
@dj1au
Nov 26
Replying to @BigBadDenis @qldhealth @QldAmbulance @ShannonFentiman @AnnastaciaMP
Letting COVID-19 rip is going well. Another success for Dr Death.🙃

Yes, Dr Death has been very successful (in causing Covid infections, hospitalisations and deaths), hasn't he?

Anyway... this is the WA Covid thread, perhaps we should have a Queensland one? If we discussed Dr Gerrard's (and Annastacia's) incompetence it would probably end up being as long as this WA thread or even longer.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:02pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

Dan Jago
@dj1au
Nov 26
Replying to @BigBadDenis @qldhealth @QldAmbulance @ShannonFentiman @AnnastaciaMP
Letting COVID-19 rip is going well. Another success for Dr Death.🙃

hi carl

the extensive article on paramedics skipping meals fails to mention covid ;D ;D ;D

send your white flag immediately

chop chop

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 2:23pm

Here's the data on 7th July 2022 when the COVID levels in wastewater were equivalent to what we are seeing today.

And we're told that cases in WA are currently getting close to 500 a week.

Pig's arse they are... there would have to be at least 30,000 active cases right now... probably a lot more.

What's the bet that the WA government (and the rest of the States) will soon stop reporting Covid wastewater levels seeing as it's the only reliable means left to determine how much Covid is in the population?

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 2:23pm:

30,000 cases and no panic.?

this ,must be so so so so so so ,mild

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

30,000 cases and no panic.?

this ,must be so so so so so so ,mild

Psst... hey, aqua...

... wait for it...

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

... nearly there...

...

... here it comes...

YOU'RE STILL AN IDIOT!

(You're welcome... again).

:)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:55pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:19pm:

30,000 cases and no panic.?

this ,must be so so so so so so ,mild

Psst... hey, aqua...

... wait for it...

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

... nearly there...

...

... here it comes...

YOU'RE STILL AN IDIOT!

(You're welcome... again).

:)

hi carl

thsts not an arguement.

so 30,000 cases and the public dont care.

clearly if this was more then the sniffles , they would care ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 10:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

hi carl

thsts not an arguement.

It's not meant to be an argument, just a statement of fact (in my humble opinion).

Quote:

so 30,000 cases and the public dont care.

That's because the majority of them don't know. All they have been told by Premier Roger Cook and the useless Amber-Jade Sanderson (our State Health Minister who knows more about business and hospitality than health - and it shows) is that they're "concerned" about reported Covid cases in WA getting close to 500 a week (lol).

Quote:

clearly if this was more then the sniffles , they would care ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 5:23am

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 10:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

hi carl

thsts not an arguement.

It's not meant to be an argument, just a statement of fact (in my humble opinion).

Quote:

so 30,000 cases and the public dont care.

No... no, they wouldn't. Especially when we have so called leaders like Chris Minns in NSW who wouldn't isolate himself even when he obviously has Covid.

Not enough handwashing and taking personal responsibility by Chris, apparently. ::)
[/quote]

rubbish carl

if this was truly bad, like body bags in the street, they would know

they dont know because they dont see anything happening

save you hypochondria for your little cult on twitter

"real" australians aint buying

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 7:30am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 7:30am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 7:30am

flip page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 8:02am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 5:23am:

rubbish carl

if this was truly bad, like body bags in the street, they would know

Only if the government and media reported it. And even then I'm not sure the majority of Australians would know or even care.

Quote:

they dont know because they dont see anything happening

They don't want to "see" anything apart from their next holiday, what's for dinner and what's on Netflix tonight.

And... most of them consider it to be somebody else's problem.

Quote:

save you hypochondria for your little cult on twitter

Covid anxiety?

I'll let the esteemed Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor) answer that one for you.

Quote:

"real" australians aint buying

As long as they're buying (holidays, shopping and spending) for Christmas that's all the government and business cares about at the moment.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 9:47am

If Dr burger wants to Pander to hypochondriacs to line his pockets so be it

If the rest of Australia want to get on with human thriving and flourishing
And understand that a life lived in fear is a wasted life
I would congratulate them for their common sense

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 11^th, 2023 at 8:21am

Meanwhile, back here in WA.

Vulnerable Perth patient groups claim hospital complacency is putting chances of survival at risk

Quote:

"Cancer sufferers are urging health bosses to do more to stop the spread of COVID within hospitals, as a new infection wave hits."

COVID: Women 50% more likely to get long coronavirus than men, major WA study reveals.

Bravo to John Flint for writing these articles, the first one was even published in The Sunday Times yesterday.

The second one may be published in today's The West Australian, I'll have a look after I buy the paper later this morning.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 12^th, 2023 at 9:32am

In the latest attempt to make Covid and it's serious consequences 'magically' disappear our dopey West Australian government is now closing down our Long Covid clinic.

COVID in WA: Virus wave expected to stretch to Christmas as anger mounts over closure of important clinic (Paywalled but you get the idea).

I guarantee the wave will stretch to way beyond Christmas... followed by the next wave and the next (and the 'troughs' between waves are getting smaller and smaller until it eventually becomes one continuous wave).

In fact, I remember the same thing being said before last Christmas.

But, it's not just WA closing the clinics.

From Denis - The COVID info guy

Link to article

Quote:

"Long COVID cases will likely increase with each new wave, so why are we closing clinics?"

"The ABC has found that of an estimated 23 clinics established in Australia, 5 have closed or scaled back operations after cuts to funding."

Yes, why?

As always, the esteemed Dr. Berger hits the nail on the head.

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28am

Just in time for Christmas.

Funny about that.

We heard the same thing last year.

Why WA could finally be over the worst of COVID-19

Quote:

In good news for the festive season, the current wave of COVID infections has finally receded, the latest WA Health data confirms.

Quote:

Annie R
@Annette75878425
40m
Replying to @westaustralian
How would anyone know? No testing, no reporting….. plenty of people off work though!

Yes indeed.

And I hope someone's told the virus that the worst is over... but I'm sure they haven't.

Especially the new recently arrived from overseas JN.1 variant which apparently is SARS-CoV-2's best effort so far at avoiding the short lived immunity from the vaccines or prior infection.

Party on... (because I'm sure Covid will... right into next year too).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 2:57pm

And, from the esteemed Professor Cynthia Doença once again...

https://nitter.net/DoencaProf/status/1735874123451293754#m (you may need to scroll down).

Quote:

Declaring we are over the worst of it has been our key public health strategy since mid 2020

Absolutely.

(Go on, aquascoot... I dare you!) [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 10:51am

WA weekly COVID update: 11 Dec to 17 Dec

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1737992273726718284#m

Quote:

🔹PCR cases only: 571 (+113)
🔹Aboriginal population: 24 cases (+4)
🔹Deaths: 21 (+16)
🔹Total deaths: 1,304 (+21)
🔹Hospital: 157 (-2)
🔹ICU: 8 (+1)

🔸Cases numbers ⬆️Up 25% compared to the previous week

Another 21 deaths making WA's death total 1,304 since former Premier Mark McGowan finally caved in to business interests (and the 'cookers') and opened WA's border in March last year.

And testing and case numbers are ridiculously low as usual... PCR tests only (for the few who can be bothered getting tested these days).

When can we expect to see that "soft landing" Mark told us about just before WA's border reopened?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 11:32am

Carl D wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 2:57pm:

And, from the esteemed Professor Cynthia Doença once again...

https://nitter.net/DoencaProf/status/1735874123451293754#m (you may need to scroll down).

Quote:

Declaring we are over the worst of it has been our key public health strategy since mid 2020

Absolutely.

(Go on, aquascoot... I dare you!) [smiley=evil.gif]

tiny numbers

not even noticed by most "real" australians

keep posting from dr berger (reprimanded for lying by ahpra) and dr doenca ( a spoof doctor who claims to have a degree from the ponds institute)

covid is so scarey to you carl
a psychologist may be able to treat your irrational fear

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 10:29am

Well, my elderly aunt, me and 4 other people were supposed to go to the Carine Glades Tavern last night for a get together.

That had to be cancelled because two of them have Covid , they rang and told us yesterday morning (now, that's some real personal responsibility).

They were actually surprised that they'd caught it because they hardly go out these days except to the local shopping centre and I'm guessing they weren't masking although I didn't ask.

I think they were also surprised they'd caught it because due to the (deliberate) almost total lack of information about Covid from our governments and media they believed the pandemic is over or it's nothing to worry about anymore.

He's quite sick at the moment (76 years old) but his wife doesn't seem to have been affected too badly so far. Naturally, I informed them that Covid is rampant in Perth (and all over Australia) at the moment.

Kudos to them for letting us know and cancelling the booking due to them having Covid... I was a bit concerned about going actually because I'm sure it would have been crowded and no doubt there would have been at least several people there with Covid and they would be unknowingly or knowingly spreading it around.

I'm also imagining what a Covid superspreader event yesterday's Boxing Day sales would have been... needless to say I didn't go anywhere near Belmont Forum or any other shopping centre yesterday... just went to our local small IGA. Masked, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 7^th, 2024 at 5:36pm

Wow.

Another great Covid article by John Flint in today's The Sunday Times.

And on page 3. :o

Not printed as a tiny bit of news buried near the back of the paper like what usually happens with any Covid news these days... if we get any news at all.

Yes, JN.1 is shaping up to be a major problem. But will the majority of the population take notice and start taking precautions like wearing masks?

If the number of people who I've seen wearing a mask when I've been out shopping during the past week is any indication then it'll be "nah - she'll be right, mate!".

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 9:02am

Western Australia: 12 West Aussies died from COVID in the first week of 2024, WA Health data reveals. By John Flint.

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1746291034060185887#m

Click on the images to read the article (because it's paywalled, as usual).

But, due to the total lack of information being given to the people of WA by the government no one is aware of this, of course.

When I went to Belmont Forum yesterday I counted about 3 masks besides mine, and one of those was being worn by a cleaner.

Quote:

Judith smith
@Judiths53372214
23h
Replying to @BigBadDenis @CHO_WAHealth @Flinty_01
I wonder what Mark would think of this

I would say Mark (McGowan) couldn't care less anymore... after he caved in, opened WA's border in March 2022 and unleashed Covid upon us (resulting in over 1,300 WA Covid deaths so far) he then retired from politics last year, took his $300,000 a year taxpayer funded pension and 4 private sector jobs... no doubt he's laughing at the rest of us right now.

And the current WA Premier Roger Cook obviously couldn't care less as well.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 18^th, 2024 at 11:11pm

Hmmm...

...my next door neighbour who has had a couple of appointments at Royal Perth Hospital over the past few weeks told me he was talking to one of the staff there the other day and he was told that the hospital will probably be bringing back masking very soon in an effort to cope with the huge surge in Covid cases here in Perth and Australia wide (in addition to all of the flu and RSV, etc. cases 'doing the rounds' at the moment).

Commendable, but masking in hospitals and healthcare should be a year round thing these days, especially during winter.

And I'm betting it won't be mandatory, only recommended (which means hardly anyone - staff and visitors - will wear one and we'll probably only see 'baggy blue' surgical masks with a lot of them being worn under the nose or chin.

But even that will be a big improvement on what we're seeing right now which is almost no one masking anywhere. But there's lots of hacking coughs and sneezing everywhere, especially in the shopping centres.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on May 19^th, 2024 at 1:01pm

This should have been on the front page in my opinion but anyway...

... from page 23 of today's The Sunday Times.

Yes, it is a (deliberate) failure.

And, yes, WA should be outraged but with zero messaging from the State Government or their Health Department (also deliberate, same with the rest of the States and Territories) hardly anyone knows about this ongoing tragedy. Which is just what our governments and big business want.

Kudos to John Flint for once again making the effort to bring this to everyone's attention. Shame he didn't say anything about wearing masks which would be the one thing that would make a big difference, not just with Covid but also with the flu and other respiratory viruses but he probably wasn't allowed to say that.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:12pm

On page 3 of today's The Sunday Times.

650 new cases. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

With the current estimate of 1 in 15 people in WA with Covid at the moment (1 in 19 for the whole of Australia) we must have a really, really small population here all of a sudden. ::)

At least they've summoned up the courage to mention the m(ask) word... but... without mandates hardly anyone will bother, of course.

"Consider wearing a mask" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And... the "best protection" from "winter illnesses" is to get your vaccinations AND WEAR A MASK in crowded places.

Mind you, I have noticed a few more people wearing masks when I'm out shopping lately, probably 1 in 50 people instead of the usual 1 in 100. Probably won't last long though.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:25pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:12pm:

On page 3 of today's The Sunday Times.

650 new cases.

My mother had an operation at RPH last week, and her nurse told me to get her out of the hospital as soon as I could as the place was full of COVID patients :-/

They were on yellow alert.

She stayed in for only two nights, thankfully.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:39pm

Hi Greg.

Glad your mother is OK after being at RPH again.

Every time I go to Belmont Forum I chat to a few random people and every single one of them has either just had Covid recently or they know someone who has.

650 new cases... I don'r know why the pollies and the media have to keep deliberately or unintentionally lying to us (I'm still saying it's deliberate).

Actually, I do know why.... as I've said many times.... THE ECONOMY.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 5:35pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Hi Greg.

Glad your mother is OK after being at RPH again.

Unfortunately, she was rushed back to RPH early this morning in an ambulance.

Even though she is very unwell, the doctors said they don't really want to admit her to a ward as they are full of RSV and COVID.

Staff numbers are down too, as many of them have COVID.

I've arranged for mum to be isolated in a single room, and observed overnight, so hopefully she'll be safe.

I'll have to go in there tomorrow to meet with the medical team, and I just know when I get in the lift on Level 3 nobody will be wearing a mask.

FFS ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am

Hope your mother is OK, Greg.

I've just noticed this:

Canberra hospitals bring back compulsory masks and limit visitors as COVID-19 and other winter illnesses increase

In short: ACT public hospitals, health centres and walk-in centres have introduced measures to limit the spread of respiratory infections.
Visitors are limited to two per patient at the same time, masks must be worn in clinical and public areas, and patients will be COVID tested.
What's next? Health authorities will continue to monitor the number of acute respiration infections in Canberra.

Quote:

An increase in acute respiratory infections, including COVID-19, influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), has prompted Canberra Health Services to introduce temporary infection-control measures at public hospitals, health centres and walk-in clinics.

Why are these things always "temporary"? They should be permanent nowadays but I'm sure the probably sizeable 'cohort' of antimaskers (and antivaxxers) in hospitals and other healthcare settings will be up in arms again if it was.

Time for them to find a new profession if they're not capable of doing something as simple as wearing a mask to protect patients in my opinion.

So, when is WA and the rest of Australia going to do the same?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 4:59pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

monitor all you like, it wont change the fact that the only successful strategy for dealing with covid is to take "personal responsibility" and get yourself physically fit , on awesome food and sleep well.

stressing out about it, being up all night in a state of fear and posting at 3 am about your terror is pumping you full of cortisol, damaging your immune system and making you more likely to perish

we call this a "self fulfilling prophesy"

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 7:32pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

"Personal responsibility". Again. ;D ;D ;D

So, please tell me - how does that help Kathryn Squires, who is in remission from Stage 4 melanoma and has a suppressed immune system due to her treatment?

And the many other vulnerable people like her? And the elderly?

You did actually read the article I linked to in my previous post, didn't you?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 10:32am

Scoot has read Chap 1 of his Self-Help book and he regurgitates that as an “answer” to any question.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 1:32pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Hope your mother is OK, Greg.

She's still in there, but not doing too bad. Her condition is 'stable'.

As predicted, though, the lifts were full and nobody was wearing a mask.

And they've painted new yellow lines around the hospital entrance with large lettering saying "No Smoking in this Area" and the area is full of people in wheelchairs with drips in their arms ... smoking.

If a patient is smoking on the hospital grounds, I think they should lose their bed.

Give them their discharge papers and send them on their way.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 5:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Hope your mother is OK, Greg.

Was there again this afternoon. Slight correction.

It actually says " No Smoking Zone", and it's full of people in wheelchairs - many of them amputees - with a drip in their arm and a cigarette in their mouth.

They should not be allowed back inside.

It's an insult to all the hardworking staff in the hospital.

The lifts were absolutely packed - you had to suck your gut in and stand on tip toes in order to let everyone fit in.

I've never seen the lifts that crowded, and not a single person was wearing a mask (except me).

The nurse looking after my mother told me many of her colleagues had COVID and that the geriatric ward had about 6 patients currently with COVID.

I'm just hoping my mother doesn't catch it again.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 6:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 5:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Hope your mother is OK, Greg.

lucky youre smarter then all the health professionals
they must LOVE you coming to visit ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 9:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 6:17pm:

lucky youre smarter then all the health professionals
they must LOVE you coming to visit ::) ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps they should start holding events like the International Economic Forum in hospitals?

https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1797990237525750050

Looks like they talked to some real health professionals here.

And I wonder why they're going to all this trouble if Covid is supposed to be "just a cold" now?

Quote:

🔥🔥🔥
"At the International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg, only people who have recently been PCR tested are allowed access. Yes, which starts TOMORROW! On June 5, 2024! Think about it! 🤔"

The wealthy and powerful are doing this behind the scenes all the time.
Presidents, Prime Ministers, Kings, with their hepa and PCR tests and masked servants.

And the rest of you can just eat covid.

Yes, that's exactly what they think - "just eat Covid".

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:31pm

Latest wastewater sampling for Perth showing Covid cases still increasing.

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1798913176798708201

Quote:

Latest C-19 wastewater for Perth, WA, up to 31 May.

Still trending upwards.

Here is definite proof that Covid isn't "going away" even when the pollies tell us that cases are declining and/or they're very low because they're not - people are not bothering to test anymore and the few that do can only register PCR tests, no more RATs.

The dark line on the graph shows the amount of Covid in wastewater and the yellow line shows the number of reported cases. They matched fairly closely until about a year ago then the case numbers dropped off dramatically even though the wastewater sampling didn't (except for the 'troughs' between 'waves' of Covid).

I've seen the same graph for wastewater compared to reported cases for other parts of Australia and other parts of the world where they've almost completely stopped testing and reporting cases but still reporting wastewater sampling.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:51pm

Also...

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1798955576321576979

Quote:

WA Wastewater Surveillance for C0VID as at 31/5.

We are experiencing a KP.2/KP.3 wave like the rest of Australia, infecting our community and putting dangerous pressure on Health resources. Again.

@CHO_WAHealth
MUST put a patient-facing mask mandate in place immediately.

Yes, Tim. Yes he must.

But I'm sure he won't.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 2:28pm

RPH might have to do something soon.

I just spoke to a doctor there and they told me there is an outbreak of a mysterious gastro bug in the general Perth population, and it has made its way into the hospital.

Several staff members are off work as a result.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 12:13pm

Just got back from doing a bit of shopping at Belmont Forum.

Wasn't very busy but I saw more masks being worn than I've seen for weeks.

Maybe the message is slowly getting through to people? Despite the WA Government's lame "Don't assume you're immune" advertising campaign which 'kicked off' this week' but doesn't mention masks (or Covid) of course.

Seen a few of the ads on TV over the past 2 days. I believe it's costing WA taxpayers 1 or 2 million dollars - money that could be better spent buying high quality masks for hospitals (and making sure they're worn properly).

At least they haven't said washing your hands is the best protection (against respiratory viruses) for once. Well, they haven't so far.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 12:23pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Just got back from doing a bit of shopping at Belmont Forum.

Wasn't very busy ...

Not COVID related - shopping centre related.

I went to the Park Centre (Vic Park) at about 1:30pm yesterday and it was packed.

The car park was full and there were cars everywhere driving up and down looking for parking spots.

It was as if it was Christmas or something.

I have no idea what was going on, but I can't remember ever seeing it that busy.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 12:55pm

School holidays for the next 2 weeks here in WA (this week and next week).

That's why I was a bit surprised when I saw Belmont Forum so quiet.

Mind you, it was 9:30am when I was there, it's probably a bit busier now getting closer to lunchtime.

The weather's sunny today as well so a lot of people could be out and about (even if it is a bit cold).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 3:40pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 12:55pm:

School holidays for the next 2 weeks here in WA (this week and next week).

Ah, okay. That might explain it.

Funnily, I went back again today at about 11:30am and the carpark was only half full, if that. Weird :-/

Maybe Kmart was having some super sale yesterday or something.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 5:40pm

And... we're off again.

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1809063081919852904

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Latest C0VID-19 wastewater for Perth, Western Australia, up to 28 June.

We have another upturn.
On and on it goes.

Yes, on and on it goes... forever.

Must be nearly time for the WA Government to stop wastewater testing and reporting for Covid like Victoria did last week... depends if it's WA's turn to stop reporting next, of course.

Premier Roger Cook or his hapless (and hopeless) "Health" Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson (who apparently knows more about business and hospitality than she does about health) may need to consult the minutes of the recent Secret Squirrel National Cabinet meeting where they probably decided the order in which the States and Territories have to stop Covid wastewater testing and reporting (like they're doing/have done with Covid cases and deaths).

And... again... the graph shows how the wastewater sampling and Covid testing numbers matched pretty closely until (almost) everyone was led to believe Covid was over and (almost) everyone stopped testing a year ago.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 3:39pm

My elderly aunt had a fall yesterday morning and spent the night at Royal Perth Hospital - fractured her right hand but she's OK and home now.

Saw a few staff wearing masks (even saw a couple of high quality masks like the ones we wear) and they kept my aunt's mask on as much as possible while she was there. I picked her up at 7 this morning (I could have picked her up at midnight last night but the lady who called me just before midnight decided it was probably better to wait until this morning and I agreed).

I went down to RPH at 5pm yesterday to see her but due to the never ending and increasing ambulance ramping she was still with the ambulance people and I wasn't allowed to see her at the time so I got the bus back home.

What really pissed me off was I caught the 935 bus from Rivervale at 4pm and I was planning to get off at Victoria Avenue in the city and walk up to RPH but guess what? The bus went to Optus Stadium to drop off all the Dockers fans for the footy (it doesn't normally go to Optus Stadium and I was wondering why nearly everyone else on the bus was wearing Dockers colours when I got on) but it wasn't continuing into the city so I had to get off and walk the rest of the way to RPH via Matagarup Bridge. In the rain. Lucky I had my umbrella with me.

Which probably ended up being quicker than the other option of walking from Optus back to Great Eastern Highway and waiting for another bus that was going to the city.

F---ing footy. No shortage of buses and trains to get people to and from that, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 5:46pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 3:39pm:

We might have passed each other in the corridors at RPH yesterday - my mother went back in by ambulance yesterday morning.

Still in AMU today, and being moved to a long-stay ward this evening.

I saw a few masks, but not enough.

And they were still cramming as many people in the lifts as they could. I took the stairs.

I hope mum doesn't catch COVID in RPH again this time, but the likelihood is high or, she could catch RSV again :(

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:07pm

Hi, Greg. Sorry to hear about your mother again, I hope she's OK and gets home safe.

We had quite an adventure yesterday. After my aunt fell at about 10:30am (I took my eyes off her for 5 minutes to take the Saturday paper to our neighbour next door) I called the people who shower her 3 days a week but they were not allowed to send anyone out to assess her.... something to do with the care package she's on or something and the lady said they were not qualified to do it. Fair enough.

I then called 000 and an ambulance paramedic came and checked her out, cleaned and put a dressing on the cut on her hand and put her arm in a temporary sling but he couldn't tell if there was any other damage apart from the obvious swelling.

I then took her to St John Urgent Care in Cannington (which was what the paramedic recommended) where they did an X-ray which confirmed the fractures. They called an ambulance which then took her to RPH (I would have gone with her in the ambulance but I would have had to leave my car at St John and go back for it later).

After the ambulance left I took the car back home and caught the 935 bus... and you can see what happened after that in my last post (in hindsight I should have driven down to RPH but I was concerned about finding a place to park).

When I arrived at RPH at 5pm yesterday I went straight to the Emergency Department reception and they said my aunt was still with the ambulance people and waiting for a bed so I went back home. When I picked her up at 7am today I went to the Emergency reception again and someone took me down a corridor to my aunt then we got her ready to leave and we went out through the main reception doors (no one was working in that area at that time which is why I didn't go in through there and went straight to Emergency instead).

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:11pm

Seems like I caught covid from my parents. I am very much over the illness, given that I was vaccinated. But it's not a very pleasant feeling.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:06pm

Yes, BE AMAZED!

From the esteemed Dr. David Berger again (aquascoot, please take note):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926529696375123

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1/ BE AMAZED! Come with me on a little journey into the bizarre. We are going to explore the Western Australian government's new "Don't Assume You're Immune" campaign to raise awareness of vaccination and see how long it takes to find a mention of COVID-19.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926532355498464

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2/ Things start off promisingly enough with this email to all WA Health employees from the WA Director General of Health, an infectious disease physician. It says the campaign is in response to "inaccurate and false information regarding public health measures". OK, fair enough.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926535413158022

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3/ Further down the email, we hear how passionate Dr Bowen is about helping people take action to keep safe and encouraging us to keep up to date with our immunisations. Here, we find two links to the new immunisation website.

This is looking promising, isn't it?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926537954877810

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4/ We click through to the new immunisation website. There, our hearts beating furiously in our chests, we click on the link which takes us to "Diseases that vaccines protect us against".

Things are still going well!

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926541788504173

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5/ But, lo! When we click on the link to the page of "Diseases that vaccines protect us against", we do not find COVID-19. We look for him here. We look for him there. But we do not find him anywhere! 🤷

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926545760543102

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6/ Resourceful fellows that we are, however, we are not dismayed, and we go to the menu at the top right and click on that, which takes us to another menu page.

Here, we click on the menu item "Immunisation programs and schedules". Seems sensible, yes?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926548839100876

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7/ This takes us to another page, which looks like this. We scratch our heads and scroll down...

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926552358162589

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8/ ... which brings us to this. We click on 'Adult immunisation schedule', for here, surely we will find the information we seek about COVID-19 immunisation? Surely!

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926555122171913

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9/ But no! Now, despite ourselves, we are becoming dismayed. For we do not find any mention of COVID-19 in the Adult immunisation schedule.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926558271848890

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10/ Not even when we scroll right to...

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926561564618976

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11/ ... the bottom of the page!

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926564530032717

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12/ Gathering ourselves, we scroll back up to the top of the page and accept the option to "Read more about immunisations at the Australian Department of Health website (external site)."

(to be continued)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:06pm

(continued)

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926567277236586

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13/ Here, at last, we will surely find the information we seek about COVID-19 vaccination!

And yes, even though this link takes us rather oddly to an 'Immunisation for adolescents' page, a flicker of hope arises as we spot the opportunity to click on a COVID-19 vaccination page

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926570745958661

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14/ Click on it we do, and find ourselves on an 'Immunisation resources' page with entries posted by date. Nothing here is specific to COVID-19, but we start scrolling
...and scrolling

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926574520819902

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15/ ...and scrolling. Until, on the TWENTY FIFTH ITEM, we possibly find what we are looking for, in the form of the opportunity to download a pdf of an infographic on 'When to get your COVID vaccination'.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926577800511543

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16/ With trembling hands, we click on the link, open the pdf file with Adobe Acrobat and THERE IT IS!

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926580950679754

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17/ I don't even think this is deliberate, because that would require an absurd level of conspiracy. I think this is the expression of a collective denial, a need to forget, to negate the very existence of this beast which threatened to rob us completely of the status quo.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926582997528898

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18/ As COVID-19 continues to ravage the world in so many ways, causing suffering, death and chaos, I don't really know how to respond. It is all so very odd.🤷‍♂️

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809931746496193022

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19/ Oh yes, and I forgot. Try searching for 'COVID' on the new immunisation website and this is what you get:

"Search results for 'covid'
We found 0 results that matched your search"

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809933122550870117

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20/ And if we search on 'COVID-19', we get one result, which, if we click on it, it takes us back to...

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809933125486784794

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21/ ...tweet number 7 in this thread, where we re-enter the useless loop of oblivion.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809937231349735603

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22/ As ever, the absurdity of life cannot be better expressed than it is in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

Phew! What a journey.

And... I've seen the "Don't Assume You're Immune" ads on TV for the past week... and there's not one mention of Covid. Or masks, of course.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:09am

carl

so you ever think of anything else except covid ?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 8:08am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:09am:

carl

so you ever think of anything else except covid ?

When I'm reading and posting in OzPolitic's Coronavirus section?

Well, no, I don't.

And, believe me, it's a heck of a lot better than reading garbage like this every day.

I had a good chuckle at mothra's reply, by the way. ;D

So, do you have anything to say about Dr. Berger's long (and 100% accurate) thread on X?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 12:45pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 8:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:09am:

carl

so you ever think of anything else except covid ?

yeah i find her and you pretty laughable as well

glad we agree

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 4:02pm

Anyway... moving right along.

Back with Dr. David Berger again (from yesterday):

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1809926529696375123

Quote:

Here's a couple of replies:

Anne-Marie Newton:

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1810094517259039197

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This campaign even has billboards!

For anything-but-C0VID

Tim (the ex virologist):

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1810168495134687259

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Do we have a photo of the thousands of WA residents who have died from COVID?

Which still hospitalises TWICE as many people as Influenza

Guess not

Of course not. Just like we'll never see pictures of anyone wearing a mask for any public "health" messaging campaigns anymore.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:15pm

Perhaps we should start another campaign with all these billboards?

Here's my idea.

All you need is some white paint and a paintbrush.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:24pm

carl

you suffer from ocd

OCD is caused by maladaptive coping strategies (unhealthy behavior)

Maladaptive and Adaptive Coping Styles Questionnaire (MAX) that Moritz and his colleagues recently developed. This questionnaire measures coping styles using three dimensions: maladaptive coping (such as thought suppression, rumination), adaptive coping (e.g. problem-solving, acceptance), and avoidance. Participants gave information about coping strategies they adopt against their OCD symptoms such as problem-solving and rumination, as well as other coping styles that have only recently been adopted in therapy, such as acceptance and suppression.

Participants with OCD were found to possess more maladaptive coping skills than all others, including those suffering from depression. They also possessed fewer functional skills to help them cope and adapt. Those who lacked adaptive coping were also likely to have a resistance to symptoms, and poor insight about their condition.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 5:24pm:

And yet you always find time (and are usually the first) to reply to my posts.

Quite bizarre.

Is there a name for what you obviously suffer from with that?

More importantly, is there a name to describe the absolute rubbish you've posted from here onward in that thread (and many others)?

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 14^th, 2024 at 10:57am

I nearly fell over with shock when I picked up the Sunday Times at our local IGA about an hour ago (wasn't very busy but I was the only one there wearing a mask - as usual).

On the FRONT PAGE and also on pages 4 and 5.

I'm still laughing at the pathetic "excuse" given for not mentioning Covid.

... omitted based on "consumer research". ;D ;D ;D

Mind you, there could be a grain of truth in that seeing as nearly everyone now believes Covid is over or it's "just a cold".

So, Governance and Public Health is now based on "consumer research", are they? Just great.

They still can't manage to say the M(ask) word, of course. But I'm sure John Flint and Dr. Andrew Miller would have liked to use the M word but I strongly suspect they have to be careful not to upset the government (or the owners of the newspaper) too much.

It'll be interesting to see how many more people are wearing masks when I'm out shopping this week and how long it lasts.

I'll be also interested to see how many staff are wearing masks at Royal Perth Hospital when I have to take my aunt there this coming Friday for a follow up appointment after her fall last weekend.

Perhaps I should take today's paper with me to show them? :-/

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 14^th, 2024 at 12:12pm

From John Flint (the writer of the above article) on X yesterday:

https://x.com/Flinty_01/status/1812098427796484246

Quote:

Front page of tomorrow's paper. Don't mention the C-word. Why is the Government trying to pretend that COVID no longer exists?

Pity he couldn't have put that on the front page.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 17^th, 2024 at 7:31pm

lol... why am I not surprised that Queensland would be next?

Actually, I'm really surprised they didn't go first.

https://x.com/Flinty_01/status/1812098427796484246

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Front page of tomorrow's paper. Don't mention the C-word. Why is the Government trying to pretend that COVID no longer exists?

And now...

https://x.com/oskaandme/status/1813356284319760698

Quote:

Looks like Qld is doing PH by focus group too. Sadly, there aren't any journalists with the integrity of @Flinty_01
here to ask why every other vaccine is mentioned but C19.

(PH is Public Health, by the way).

Who's next? My guess would be New South Wales.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 5:47pm

Took my aunt to Royal Perth Hospital this morning for a follow up appointment after her fall nearly 2 weeks ago.

We had to go to "O" Block which is at the Cathedral end of Goderich Street, at least we didn't need to go to either of the main buildings today.

Barely a mask in sight apart from my aunt and I.

I did see 2 or 3 masks on patients in the waiting area but no staff were wearing them as far as I could see.

Plenty of hand sanitiser around though, of course.

Oh, while we were waiting to see the doctor after the x-ray was done on my aunt's right wrist I did see a little 'pop up' message in the bottom right hand corner of one of the staff's computer monitors.

It said something like (can't remember the exact wording): "Ongoing exceeding of capacity in ED" (Emergency Department).

One of the staff told me they see that message quite often these days. Hmm, I wonder why?

He also told me they have quite a few staff off sick at the moment with Covid or the flu.

Feels more and more like we're living in an episode of The Twilight Zone lately.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 6:53pm

Looks like we've got to the bottom of this latest wave in Perth.

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1825414419566022660

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Latest C-19 wastewater for Perth, WA - up to 16 Aug.

Looks like the bottom of this wave may have been reached.

Prepare for the next rise.

And, again... you can see how hardly anyone has been testing since about 12 months ago (the yellow line is the reported cases).

No testing = no cases. Straight from the Donald Trump 2020 Covid Playbook.

And it looks like the next wave is about to begin with the latest variant(s) probably already here from the US where they had another 1,134 deaths last week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1825353578174976382

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🇺🇸US weekly COVID update: 169,217 new cases and sadly 1,134 deaths.

"This is the first week since March with more than 1,000 new COVID deaths in the U.S."

Endless waves of Covid. All around the world. All year round.

But, it's all so perfectly "normal" nowadays, isn't it?

Counting down now to when wastewater Covid reporting stops (like they've already done in Victoria)... 10... 9... 8...

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 11:05am

A bit of "good news" for Perth here.

But, I'm sure it won't last long, we've probably already 'received' the latest variants from the US and other places overseas and the 'rollercoaster ride' of endless Covid waves will start again.

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1830454209998950662

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Latest graph of C-19 wastewater for Perth WA (up to 30 Aug) shows continuation of downward trend. This is the lowest it's been for a year.

And... again... you can see that hardly anyone is testing anymore (yellow line on graph) so reported case numbers are meaningless and have been for well over a year now.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 4^th, 2024 at 7:21pm

Looking at the death numbers just released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for this year (up to July 31st) I'm wondering if now might be a good time to ask WA Premier Roger Cook and his hapless (and hopeless) Health Minister, Amber-Jade Sanderson, why Covid wasn't mentioned at all in their recent 5.2 million dollar "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination advertising campaign? :-/

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:46pm

It can't be caused by Covid though, can it?

I spent five days in hospital waiting for an MRI. WA’s health system is at breaking point

Nope, it couldn't be Covid. Even though the last time I took my elderly aunt to Royal Perth Hospital a month ago I was told that they had a lot of staff off sick with Covid and the flu. Greg was also told that RPH was rife with Covid just recently.

https://x.com/dj1au/status/1836632238794117331

Quote:

“This hospital was designed before the massive population boom we’ve seen in Perth,”

and before something else that has caused hopitals all over the world to be in crisis.

Yes... what could it be? :-/ Hint: The thing that wasn't even mentioned in WA's recent 5.2 million dollar "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination advertising campaign.

And, looks like things are going to get a whole lot worse soon with the new XEC variant about to go on the rampage.

But, I'm sure it'll be the usual chirping crickets from the pollies.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 1:35am

People should not be going to hospital, getting infected and DYING just because staff don't want to wear a mask (and the government is too afraid to try and enforce mask wearing - plus they want to maintain the illusion that the Covid pandemic is over).

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1853351218082382188

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WA: Cheryl Edwards: Widower Peter’s sorrow over soul mate’s death, blames infection controls at Perth hospital.

"A widower has attacked lax hospital infection controls which he blames for his beloved wife’s death."

Non paywalled link to article: https://archive.md/uZA6K

Quote:

A widower has attacked lax hospital infection controls which he blames for his beloved wife’s death.

Cheryl Edwards died in January last year after her husband, Peter, said she contracted an infection at Rockingham General Hospital.

The cancer patient had been responding well to chemotherapy and the couple thought she had it beat. He denies the hospital’s claim that they were told her illness was terminal.

Mr Edwards remains in deep grief over the loss of his soul mate and is tormented by the circumstances around her “unnecessary death”.

Diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia, Mrs Edwards, 75, was neutropenic, meaning her body was extremely low in a type of white blood cells which fight infections.

Despite her vulnerability to germs, Mr Edwards was aghast that many of the staff didn’t adhere to infection prevention protocols.

“It quickly became obvious that the vast majority of staff, including doctors, nurses, cleaners and catering staff who entered Cheryl’s room were not bothering to wear the PPE that we were assured would be worn, even though supplies were left outside the door, specifically for the use of those entering,” he said.

It really is about time the lawsuits started.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 7:59pm

Wow! If you blinked you'd miss it.

Tucked away at the bottom of page 25 in today's The West Australian.

(The front page had a big, black headline about how everyone went on a big Black Friday spending spree) ::)

"urging people to be cautious during the festive season" ;D ;D ;D

"The dominant variant is JN.1" Just wait until XEC goes on the rampage, I'm surprised it hasn't already.

"no indication that the virus had become more severe" So, that means it'll still be killing about 83 Australians a week according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics numbers up until July 31st.

(2,503 Covid deaths from January 1st to July 31st 2024 divided by 30 weeks).

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:12pm

Oh, and riddle me this.

If our Federal and State governments want everyone to believe that "Covid is over" or it's now "just a cold" (even to the point where Covid isn't even mentioned in multi million dollar vaccination advertising campaigns) why is it that every time I receive a home visit from someone working for our governments in relation to my aunt's falls - My Aged Care, Rehabilitation In The Home, Social Workers, etc., when they call to make the appointment time they ALWAYS ask if we have Covid or any symptoms?

Why is that, I wonder? I'm sure they never used to ask if people had a cold or the flu before Covid arrived on the scene. So, if Covid is supposed to be "over" or "just a cold" then why do they need to ask?

I've never thought of asking any of these people why up until now... I'll have to remember to ask next time they need to come and see us.

I'm sure the replies will be interesting, to say the least. :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:30pm

Took my next door neighbour down to Royal Perth Hospital this morning for the next session in his ongoing cancer treatments.

Went back and picked him up a couple of hours later and on the way home he was telling me about all the signs everywhere at RPH saying masks MUST be worn but were any of the staff or visitors wearing them? Nope (apart from a "baggy blue" surgical seen here and there... with some of those being worn under the nose or chin, of course).

However, the staff in the cancer treatment area were all wearing masks (baggy blues again which are not exactly designed for stopping viruses but better than nothing, I guess?).

Honestly, what hope is there of stopping Covid, flu and other respiratory illnesses when staff and visitors in major hospitals like RPH won't even wear masks when required to do so and there's no enforcement whatsoever? And we've just started another Covid wave (endless waves of Covid) Australia wide.

This is all caused by another (deliberate) failure by our governments who are still trying to maintain the illusion that Covid is over or, at worst, it's now "just a cold".

Disgraceful stuff.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 8:37pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

You're right, it is disgraceful.

I'm just glad I don't have to go to RPH anymore.

I miss my mother and father, but I don't miss my trips to RPH with them.

I'm still amazed that I never caught COVID, despite all the time I spent in that place over the last three years.

I guess I have my vaccinations to thank for that.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:07am

Hmm, Perth seems to be 'bucking the trend' regarding Covid at the moment (assuming we're not being lied to - which would not surprise me).

And, I'm sure another new variant will be arriving soon from overseas - if it hasn't already.

Wastewater testing shows another drop. Except for Aged Care.

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1877595150299382039

Quote:

Latest C19 wastewater report for Perth, Western Australia - up to 3 Jan '25. Pleasing to see downward trend, incl. over Xmas/NY.

Note that aged care cases (residents + staff) have risen since then (see next tweet).

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1877595249553617202

And:

https://x.com/amnewtonPhD/status/1877643360221143453

Quote:

Western Australia:
C19 hospitalisations now up 41% from mid-Dec ’24.

Looks like C19 remains dangerous in 2025.
Even in summer.
Even if rarely mentioned.

Yes. Yes it does.

As usual - you can see the testing numbers (yellow line) in the attached graph are almost non existent. Just what the government likes to see.

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Jan 28^th, 2025 at 2:48pm

Oh, dear.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1884088051925934269

https://archive.md/7y3a0

This was also in today's The West Australian, a small piece on the front page followed by the full story on pages 10 and 11.

When I saw this I immediately thought "Ah, they've finally woken up and they're going to warn parents about their kids (and themselves) getting repeated infections from a dangerous SARS virus that affects the brain and other body organs".

Silly me. ::)

Here's some replies in that X thread:

Quote:

Jelena
@Jelena_notes
32m
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Who can come up with such stupidity?

Jan 28, 2025 · 4:07 AM UTC

Quote:

Judith smith
@Judiths53372214
26m
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Please for the love of god don’t blame lockdowns. Wa had 7 weeks and then only a few days here and there. We did not have hard lockdown.

Jan 28, 2025 · 4:13 AM UTC

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Dan Jago
@dj1au
23m
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Babies socialise in their first year of life? What lockdowns in WA?

Jan 28, 2025 · 4:17 AM UTC

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Kian
@interPARASect24
24m
Replying to @BigBadDenis
poor social skills, how about just having the kid there, covid coulda took them out, how many millions of long covid kids do they need to understand this

Jan 28, 2025 · 4:17 AM UTC

Quote:

KellySeven🐀
@KellySeven3
23m
Replying to @BigBadDenis
So... were the lockdowns in WA 5 years long?

Jan 28, 2025 · 4:19 AM UTC

All part of the ongoing whitewashing of (Covid) history by our governments and the media.

But, I'm sure the majority of the population will lap up this BS and they'll "know" what to blame (lockdowns, not Covid) when their kids start failing at school in the coming years. Unbelievable.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Jan 28^th, 2025 at 3:02pm

millions of long covid kids :o :o

link

and the rantings of a deranged hypochondriac on twitter does not constitute a link ::)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 4:13pm

Just wondering if I should shoot off a quick email to the WA Department of Health (using a 'throwaway' email address of course) and ask them if they plan on mentioning Covid in this year's "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination advertising campaign seeing as Covid is still at least 5 times more deadly than the flu?

Because they didn't say a word about Covid in last year's campaign.

Perhaps if they had mentioned it and people were more up to date with their Covid vaccinations the number of deaths would have been a lot less.

And aquascoot might want to shoot off a quick email to Queensland Health and ask them if they're planning on mentioning Covid in their advertising campaign this year because they also mysteriously 'forgot' to mention it last year.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 5:06pm

Why would the government promote a vaccine you need to have 8 times ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 6:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2025 at 5:06pm:

Why would the government promote a vaccine you need to have 8 times ;D ;D ;D

Yes, of course.

Why would they, when it costs them money to provide up to date vaccines for Covid? It's easier and cheaper for them to have (nearly) everyone believe Covid doesn't exist anymore or it's "just a cold".

Makes you wonder why they pay to provide up to date flu vaccines every year. I'm guessing it's because the flu has been around for a lot longer than Covid and it would probably be very difficult to make everyone believe the flu has suddenly "gone away", especially with the large number of cases every year.

Even with gullible populations like ours.

Well, I'll be getting my yearly flu shot in about 2 weeks time. Might get my 7th Covid vaccination at the same time, one in each arm like I did last April.

Mind you, the current JN.1 Covid vaccine in Australia is probably already out of date (variant wise) but it's better than nothing at this stage.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 8:32pm

Ah.

I see the WA Government's "Don't Assume You're Immune" vaccination advertising campaign has started on TV again.

So far it's one of the same ads they used last year - they mentioned influenza and RSV. I'm waiting with bated breath to see if they mention Covid this year seeing as it is still 5 to 10 times more deadly than the flu (spoiler alert: I'm betting they won't, just like last year).

Speaking of vaccinations - I've booked in my flu vaccination and my 7th Covid vaccination for this Thursday at our local TerryWhite Chemmart, my elderly aunt will be having her flu vaccination at the same time.

8-)

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:26pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Twilight zone

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:37pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Something a little worrying I've discovered in the last week - nursing homes don't require proof of vaccination from visitors any more.

I've been looking after a friend's elderly relative in a very respectable nursing home not that far from the city, and there is no need to provide proof of either flu or COVID vaccinations when people visit.

Just sign the visitors' book, and that's it.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Looking after someone in a nursing home?

I would have thought you can visit but showering, changing sheets and giving medicine was a task only staff can perform :-/

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 4:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:

Carl D wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Looking after someone in a nursing home?

I would have thought you can visit but showering, changing sheets and giving medicine was a task only staff can perform :-/

Giving medicine, yes.

But showering, toileting, changing sheets, taking clothes to the laundry, outside walks, feeding etc. is often done by visitors.

It doesn't surprise me that you've never cared for anyone before.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 9^th, 2025 at 12:02am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:26pm:

Twilight zone

Indeed.

It feels like I'm living in an episode right now.

An episode where a dangerous virus which is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard is now believed by most people (due to clever manipulation by governments) to be "gone" or, at worst, "just a cold".

The same dangerous virus that is now being (deliberately) ignored by governments and the media despite the ongoing death toll (at least 5 times higher than the flu) and countless others being disabled by "Long Covid".

The same dangerous virus that caused a 4 day lockdown here in Perth in mid 2021 due to ONE CASE getting out of hotel quarantine which triggered a front page story with a HUGE black headline in The West Australian newspaper plus another 16 PAGES (!) of "extra" virus coverage.

If Rod Serling were still alive he'd probably find this whole bizarre Covid story too unbelievable for a Twilight Zone episode.

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by aquascoot on Apr 9^th, 2025 at 10:10am

Correct Carl.

I agree governments and the media are deeply embarrassed about things like 4 day lockdowns for 1 case or 16 page articles .

Once the population got covid and discovered it was mild, the pollies and the media ghosted the covid over response.

No one wants to talk about covid in 2025
Except maybe you.

Most Australians have several hundred more pressing problems to fix.

I suppose being a bored old pensioner means you don't have much going on

So you can spend significant time on an insignificant threat

Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Apr 10^th, 2025 at 10:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 9^th, 2025 at 10:10am:

There are so many things wrong with that post I really don't know where to start. ::)

And besides, we've been through all this many, many times over the past few years so I'm not going to bother again.

On a brighter note, I had my 7th Covid vaccination and my yearly flu vaccination today... Covid in the left arm, flu in the right.

And my 95 year old aunt had her flu shot (she had her 7th Covid vaccination a couple of months back).

Wow, 2 Shingles vaccinations and a Covid and Flu vaccination since late November.

Shouldn't I be dead by now? Sir Nail? Bobby? Care to comment? :-/

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Title: Re: COVID in WA
Post by Carl D on Sep 7^th, 2025 at 9:32am

What a surprise. Not.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1964205263772164150

Quote:

Western Australia’s Worst Flu Season Ever

WA recorded its worst flu season on record, averaging 200 cases a day last month. With 23,315 cases so far this year, it’s the 3rd time numbers topped 20,000 and the highest since federal records began in 2001.

Source: https://archive.md/n9did

Not a word about Covid, of course. However...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1964209602620448918

Quote:

Ongoing Covid infections are hammering immune systems, leaving people more vulnerable to flu and other illnesses. No surprise WA is now seeing its worst flu season on record.

No surprise at all. And, I'm sure the WA government knows it but it'll be a cold day in hell before they admit it.

Government(s) too scared to say the C word anymore. That would actually be quite funny if the ongoing consequences were not so tragic.