Great Wall (cars)
Haval (cars)
LDV (cars)
Huawei (electronics)
Lenovoa (electronics)
Alibaba
Hisense (electronics)
Haier (white goods)

http://img2.chinadaily.com.cn/images/201904/02/5ca2f6a0a3104842e4a6bf98.png

Not just the numerous brands, but the proliferation of Chinese components in almost all electrical items.  :o

Sweet and sour chicken.

I have a Hisense tv about 3 years old

Japanese car Camry

German oven Bosch

Fisher Paykel washing machine NZ...

vaccy  England Dyson

Fried RIce..

cods wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

I have a Hisense tv about 3 years old -yep chinese Japanese car Camry - depending how old it could have been made in Australia. German oven Bosch. Bosch has manufacturing in the US & India Fisher Paykel washing machine NZ... ;D Quote: Fisher & Paykel had grown into a global company operating in 50 countries and manufacturing in Thailand, China, Italy and Mexico. [7] The company had a manufacturing base in Australia for almost 20 years and nearly 70 years in New Zealand, but stated it can no longer compete with low cost labour countries and had to close them. [8][9] In 2012, Haier, a major Chinese appliance manufacturer, purchased over 90% of Fisher & Paykel Appliance shares vaccy  England Dyson- maybe the only one anti China Fried RIce.. ;D only eaten made in Australia fried rice

I suggest we boycott all Chinese brands in protest against the Chinese government shutting down beef imports from some of our meatworks in an attempt to prevent an inquiry into the coronavirus, and generally being giant douches.

I don't generally buy into the whole "buy Australian" thing, but I think this is one area where people could make a difference. There are plenty of non-Chinese brands to choose from.

cods wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

Japanese car Camry

weren't you yesterday telling me you always buy Australian if you have a choice?  :D :D :D

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

I suggest we boycott all Chinese brands in protest against the Chinese government shutting down beef imports from some of our meatworks in an attempt to prevent an inquiry into the coronavirus, and generally being giant douches. I don't generally buy into the whole "buy Australian" thing, but I think this is one area where people could make a difference. There are plenty of non-Chinese brands to choose from.

yes, the whole world should do this.

I am

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

I suggest we boycott all Chinese brands in protest against the Chinese government shutting down beef imports from some of our meatworks in an attempt to prevent an inquiry into the coronavirus, and generally being giant douches. I don't generally buy into the whole "buy Australian" thing, but I think this is one area where people could make a difference. There are plenty of non-Chinese brands to choose from.

I will do that if we can boycott john smiff at the same time..
Gnads wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 6:26pm:

Fisher Paykel washing machine NZ...  Quote: Fisher & Paykel had grown into a global company operating in 50 countries and manufacturing in Thailand, China, Italy and Mexico. [7] The company had a manufacturing base in Australia for almost 20 years and nearly 70 years in New Zealand, but stated it can no longer compete with low cost labour countries and had to close them. [8][9] In 2012, Haier, a major Chinese appliance manufacturer, purchased over 90% of Fisher & Paykel Appliance shares

yes I am aware of that  cept my washing machine has made in NZ on it..I checked..

we can only believe the labels.....if we are being lied too how the hell do we find that out?

as for fried rice I usually buy mine when we have takeout  from Vietnamese

.my daughter worked in Immigration  in Sydney and would go on hunts for  illegal immigrants who mostly worked in Asian takeaways./restaurants...she said what she saw in Chinese restaurants....would make you sick... she said never ever  eat in a Chinese.. >:( >:(

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

I suggest we boycott all Chinese brands in protest against the Chinese government shutting down beef imports from some of our meatworks in an attempt to prevent an inquiry into the coronavirus, and generally being giant douches. I don't generally buy into the whole "buy Australian" thing, but I think this is one area where people could make a difference. There are plenty of non-Chinese brands to choose from.

Sure, I hear you.

And China, if they're smart, will do the same thing, yeah?

They'll boycott Australian products.

You're happy with that?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 6:39pm: I suggest we boycott all Chinese brands in protest against the Chinese government shutting down beef imports from some of our meatworks in an attempt to prevent an inquiry into the coronavirus, and generally being giant douches. I don't generally buy into the whole "buy Australian" thing, but I think this is one area where people could make a difference. There are plenty of non-Chinese brands to choose from. Sure, I hear you. And China, if they're smart, will do the same thing, yeah? They'll boycott Australian products. You're happy with that?

China has already started banning our products. I am not suggesting that Australia do the same.

The Chinese are now refusing to even take our trade ministers calls




Quote:

High-ranking calls to China have gone unanswered amid an escalating trade dispute with Australia that's been fuelled by calls to investigate the origins of the deadly coronavirus pandemic. Trade Minister Simon Birmingham has been seeking to speak with his counterpart since China threatened to impose an 80 per cent import tariff on Australian barley. China will make its final decision on the tariff on Tuesday. If it follows through with the threat, Australian exporters fears it will cripple a once lucrative market. "We've made a request for me to be able to have discussions with my Chinese counterpart," Senator Birmingham told Insiders. "That request has not been met with a call being accommodated at this stage."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-17/coronavirus-china-investigation-trade-barley-beef/12256896


:D :D

Endless threats from the CCP... The slightest issue and it's on!

From the Dalai Lama visiting Australia in 2007, 2009 and an Australian delegation meeting him in India in 2013... To a reasonable request to investigate how the virus originated and spread...

Everything angers the CCP... being the insecure, paranoid and psychopathic entity that it is.

consumer boycotts rarely have much of an effect
Because whilst people are only too happy to virtue signal on social media they inevitably continue to buy China sourced products because they are cheaper.

Also if China decide to boycott buying our Iron Ore we will be in a world of hurt

Consumer boycotts can be very effective, and have been in the past. They have changed corporate culture in many companies, to the extent that some companies care just as much about their 'social licences to operate' as they do about complying with the law. The Chinese could learn this lesson very easily. Just last year Brunei announced that it would not impose the death penalty for those convicted of having anal sex, following boycott calls. It did not even require an actual boycott, just the threat of one.

There are plenty of other cheap products on the market.

freediver wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Consumer boycotts can be very effective, and have been in the past. They have changed corporate culture in many companies, to the extent that some companies care just as much about their 'social licences to operate' as they do about complying with the law. The Chinese could learn this lesson very easily. Just last year Brunei announced that it would not impose the death penalty for those convicted of having anal sex, following boycott calls. It did not even require an actual boycott, just the threat of one. There are plenty of other cheap products on the market.

Consumer boycotts have an effect on reputation but have a negligible impact on sales
The Chinese government have shown that they don't care about their reputation

I am not suggesting we boycott the Chinese government.

Big mouth Liberal is definitely not helping Australia.

America is laughing about that China reduces import from Australia and will increase import from them.

youtu.be/cMqEfNhe-tE

Victor Sunny wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 3:06pm:

Big mouth Liberal is definitely not helping Australia. America is laughing about that China reduces import from Australia and will increase import from them. youtu.be/cMqEfNhe-tE

Chinese exports down 17% compared to this time last year.

I reckon more people will stop buying crap from China and Chinese exports will fall much further.

62 Nations support the Australian call for an inquiry into the Kung Flu

I dont know about boycotting. 

For example:

Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that.
Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth.
Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool.
Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps. 

Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves? 

I have a Hisense and a Lenovo product in my possession. When I go to replace them, they won't be of those brands.

tickleandrose wrote on May 18^th, 2020 at 12:24am:

I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?

I doubt the Chinese would let it get so bad that they import fewer raw materials. They just need to learn that they cannot control consumer sentiment here the same way they control the internet in China or twist the arm of smaller governments. After all, they copy everything else from foreigners.

China is a nation of Replicants.

Time to bring in the Blade Runners.

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 2:15pm:

Great Wall (cars) Haval (cars) LDV (cars) Huawei (electronics) Lenovoa (electronics) Alibaba Hisense (electronics) Haier (white goods) http://img2.chinadaily.com.cn/images/201904/02/5ca2f6a0a3104842e4a6bf98.png

Australia - Ayer's Rock (off-limits to Whitey and his Chow imports).

freediver wrote on May 18^th, 2020 at 7:53am:

tickleandrose wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 12:24am: I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?  I doubt the Chinese would let it get so bad that they import fewer raw materials. They just need to learn that they cannot control consumer sentiment here the same way they control the internet in China or twist the arm of smaller governments. After all, they copy everything else from foreigners.

Yeah? How many Hills Hoists do they have?

The_Barnacle wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Consumer boycotts can be very effective, and have been in the past. They have changed corporate culture in many companies, to the extent that some companies care just as much about their 'social licences to operate' as they do about complying with the law. The Chinese could learn this lesson very easily. Just last year Brunei announced that it would not impose the death penalty for those convicted of having anal sex, following boycott calls. It did not even require an actual boycott, just the threat of one. There are plenty of other cheap products on the market. Consumer boycotts have an effect on reputation but have a negligible impact on sales The Chinese government have shown that they don't care about their reputation

I'm in the market fro a new car...... I probably can't afford to buy what I want .....

but one thing for sure ..... out of all the new imported vehicles available ......

I will never buy a Chinese car.

Electrical goods almost have everyone snookered .... most are made in China on license from Brand name manufacturers.

The same with a lot of clothing ... it's either Chinese, Indian, Bangaldeshi or Indonesian made.

Where possible I will not buy chinese product.

They can get stuffed.

Victor Sunny wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 3:06pm:

Big mouth Liberal is definitely not helping Australia. America is laughing about that China reduces import from Australia and will increase import from them. youtu.be/cMqEfNhe-tE

You not help either Charwee... you big mouth CCP stooge.

tickleandrose wrote on May 18^th, 2020 at 12:24am:

I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?

What sort of snacks are  seafords & lamps ? ;D

Melanias purse wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 10:34am:

freediver wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 7:53am: tickleandrose wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 12:24am: I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?  I doubt the Chinese would let it get so bad that they import fewer raw materials. They just need to learn that they cannot control consumer sentiment here the same way they control the internet in China or twist the arm of smaller governments. After all, they copy everything else from foreigners. Yeah? How many Hills Hoists do they have?

More pertinent a question .... how many do we have now?

It's now owned by US company AMES.

Gnads wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 1:13pm:

Melanias purse wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 10:34am: freediver wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 7:53am: tickleandrose wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 12:24am: I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?  I doubt the Chinese would let it get so bad that they import fewer raw materials. They just need to learn that they cannot control consumer sentiment here the same way they control the internet in China or twist the arm of smaller governments. After all, they copy everything else from foreigners. Yeah? How many Hills Hoists do they have? More pertinent a question .... how many do we have now? It's now owned by US company AMES.

That's good, no? We're trying to make America great again, yes?

Every little bit helps, Gonads. Why aren't we sending the Yanks our soil too?

Victor Sunny wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 3:06pm:

America is laughing about that China

Victor Sunny makes no Victa lawnmowers , the Yanks do using US Vegemite fuel made from barley .

Gnads wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 12:59pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 12:12pm: freediver wrote on May 17th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Consumer boycotts can be very effective, and have been in the past. They have changed corporate culture in many companies, to the extent that some companies care just as much about their 'social licences to operate' as they do about complying with the law. The Chinese could learn this lesson very easily. Just last year Brunei announced that it would not impose the death penalty for those convicted of having anal sex, following boycott calls. It did not even require an actual boycott, just the threat of one. There are plenty of other cheap products on the market. Consumer boycotts have an effect on reputation but have a negligible impact on sales The Chinese government have shown that they don't care about their reputation I'm in the market fro a new car...... I probably can't afford to buy what I want ..... but one thing for sure ..... out of all the new imported vehicles available ...... I will never buy a Chinese car. Electrical goods almost have everyone snookered .... most are made in China on license from Brand name manufacturers. The same with a lot of clothing ... it's either Chinese, Indian, Bangaldeshi or Indonesian made. Where possible I will not buy chinese product. They can get stuffed.

I suggest we start with Chinese-owned companies.

Anyone know if any are owned directly by the CCP?

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

Anyone know if any are owned directly by the CCP?

great wall, foton and haval for starters.

Then there are car companies that have been sold to Chinese companies (Geely and SAIC) like MG, Lotus and volvo.  Although these may not necessarily be produced in China.

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

I suggest we start with Chinese-owned companies. Anyone know if any are owned directly by the CCP?

Nothing is owned directly by the CCP. All state owned companies should belong all Chinese people which is similar to Australia.

Victor Sunny wrote on Jun 10^th, 2020 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 3:09pm: I suggest we start with Chinese-owned companies. Anyone know if any are owned directly by the CCP? Nothing is owned directly by the CCP. All state owned companies should belong all Chinese people which is similar to Australia.

;D ;D They only benefit the ruling elite.

Captain Nemo wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 2:16pm:

Not just the numerous brands, but the proliferation of Chinese components in almost all electrical items.  :o

You're wasting your time. Free Dumpster doesn't know the difference.

Melanias purse wrote on May 19^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

Gnads wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 1:13pm: Melanias purse wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 10:34am: freediver wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 7:53am: tickleandrose wrote on May 18th, 2020 at 12:24am: I dont know about boycotting.  For example: Cars:  well, we supply the iron ore for that. Phones: we supply some of the rare Earth. Cloth:  we supply cotton and wool. Snacks: we supply seaford, beef, lamps.  Boycotting, means we dont support ourselves?  I doubt the Chinese would let it get so bad that they import fewer raw materials. They just need to learn that they cannot control consumer sentiment here the same way they control the internet in China or twist the arm of smaller governments. After all, they copy everything else from foreigners. Yeah? How many Hills Hoists do they have? More pertinent a question .... how many do we have now? It's now owned by US company AMES. That's good, no? We're trying to make America great again, yes? Every little bit helps, Gonads. Why aren't we sending the Yanks our soil too?

Too late, we already leased most of it out to the chinese. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk.

India pulling tech rug out from under China!

https://m.economictimes.com/tech/software/india-bans-59-chinese-apps-including-tiktok-helo-wechat/articleshow/76694814.cms

I just bought a SLSC raceboard for the kid, most are made in China, some in Viet and some in Thailand.

$2600!! Surely we could make them here for about $1500 allowing a decent profit?

Noticed that here in the States Pakistanis sell Chinese-made junk 4-wheelers to dumb Mexicans. I feel sorry for the Mexicans and contempt for the Pakis.

Woolworths yesterday.......

Tenderly toilet paper clearly marked

Made in China

So what was all the bs about sending Aussie date rolls to china by the container loads?

Contaminated like their baby formula?

.
Make Australia make again...
.
http://youtu.be/UQci1e1mkko

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI.

DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things
and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx.
70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly
regarded.

I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic
Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI
subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their
reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service
are also up to par.

Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk.

If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them.

Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it
will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and
stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

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I bought a Lenovo computer over a week ago for $700. I do not consider that I was funding the Chinese company with my purchase, as it was already purchased by the company in Australia. Had the particular brand of computer not been available and at a good price, I would not have bought the computer.

It is the world we live in. We might protest a country by not buying their products. But, in the end, we just harm ourselves with businesses being left holding the product until someone comes along to score a bargain.

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 2:46pm:

Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI. DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx. 70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly regarded. I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service are also up to par. Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk. If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them. Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00

drones shouldnt exist, I dont  know where anyone gets the idea  that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk.

Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok.

Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes.

rhino wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:08pm:

Kat wrote on May 26th, 2021 at 2:46pm: Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI. DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx. 70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly regarded. I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service are also up to par. Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk. If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them. Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00 drones shouldnt exist, I dont  know where anyone gets the idea  that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea.

Try it with mine and see what happens.

I fly them responsibly and within the rules.

All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap.

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or
even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal.

Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no
Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic.

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Kat wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 3:08pm: Kat wrote on May 26th, 2021 at 2:46pm: Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI. DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx. 70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly regarded. I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service are also up to par. Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk. If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them. Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00 drones shouldnt exist, I dont  know where anyone gets the idea  that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea. Try it with mine and see what happens. I fly them responsibly and within the rules. All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap. And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street. Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal. Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic.

Most people dont use them responsibly, they should be banned, there is zero legitimate civilian use for them. If I use a blocker you will never know  ;)

rhino wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 2:33pm: rhino wrote on Jun 22nd, 2021 at 3:08pm: Kat wrote on May 26th, 2021 at 2:46pm: Number 13 on Freediver's list - DJI. DJI manufacture unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aka drones, among other things and are the biggest producer of 'prosumer' drones in the world. They hold approx. 70% of the world's prosumer drone market, and their products are very highly regarded. I personally own and fly four DJI drones, a Phantom 3 Standard, a Spark, a Mavic Air, and a little Tello (their 'beginner' model, produced by 'Ryze Technologies, a DJI subsidiary) and can readily vouch for the quality of finish and assembly, and their reliability. Anecdotal evidence indicates that their warranties and after-sales service are also up to par. Chinese, they may be - but they are NOT cheap, and they are far from being junk. If you're thinking of buying a drone, I highly recommend them. Here's a pic of a Mavic Air, (my Mavic Air, actually) with its accessories. Folded, it will fit in the pocket of a pair of cargo-pants with ease, and shoots video in 4K and stills at 12mp. Its retail price when new was approx. AUD$1400.00 drones shouldnt exist, I dont  know where anyone gets the idea  that its ok to go around the place invading peoples privacy. If it was legal I would shoot them out of the sky when I see them. Im considering getting a drone blocker which would make them drop out if the sky. When they continually start losing them these drone operators might get the idea. Try it with mine and see what happens. I fly them responsibly and within the rules. All this 'they're spying on us' crap is just that - crap. And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street. Also, possession of 'drone blockers' by individuals is illegal. Here's a pic showing an example of what I use mine for... no Karens were harmed in the taking of this pic. Most people dont use them responsibly, they should be banned, there is zero legitimate civilian use for them. If I use a blocker you will never know  ;)

You really are full of it, you know that?

Obviously, sensible comment isn't wanted here.

Good-oh - I'll see myself out.

Kat wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:

And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street.

This comment from you says it all. You would be quite happy with spying on people in their own backyard just because you legally can.

rhino wrote on Jun 29^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Kat wrote on Jun 28th, 2021 at 2:33pm: And you've no 'right to privacy' in a public place - or even in your yard if you can bee seen from the street. This comment from you says it all. You would be quite happy with spying on people in their own backyard just because you legally can.

Ah, pull your head in.

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:37pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:16pm: Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk. Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok. Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes.

And your shoes, of course.

https://imgk.timesnownews.com/story/1557817876-Made_in_CHina.jpg

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:37pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:16pm: Never buy a great wall ute, they are not unbreakable and you are hard pressed to even find even an oil filter for them, they are Chinese junk. Of course it's junk. Everything made under Chinese know-how (ie stolen intellectual property) is crap. Only goods made in China by Western companies, under Western control, watched by Westerners is ok. Except silk and.... er.... Chinese calligraphy brushes

I would never buy another Jeep. I could tell you some horror stories there. They don't exactly instill confidence in American goods. The only cars worth buying in the US are Japanese cars made under strict Japanese quality criteria. Toyota, Honda, Subaru and Nissan all have factories in the US.

jeep land rover , mg, jag, volvo are now run out of china.

american brands are rolling piles of junk, often made in mexico or assembled in the USA out of parts made in china.

japan still takes pride in its fleet and honda and toyota are the standout brands
mazda are reasonable.

look for the made in japan on the plate in the drivers door.
then youre sweet.

having said that , we will be moving to electric vehicles and they will tend to be fairly generic. its a simpler technology .
a lot of people will use cars they way they use those e scooters now.
just get around in one, using an app and pay per journey.

the days of big heavy vehicles and long trips are coming to an end
fossil fuels are gone and with them cheap energy.

people will be increasingly confined to their own homes.
covid lockdowns revealed that most chodes are perfectly happy with that

aquascoot wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 1:10pm:

jeep land rover , mg, jag, volvo are now run out of china.

Well I know that Jeep is now owned by Stellantis, based out of Amsterdam, and Stellantis is a merger of Fiat Chrysler (based in Italy) and PSA (Peugeot) based in France.

Most RHD Jeeps are made either in Toledo or Ontario Canada (near Toronto). I don't know about the rest.

After Sales service for Jeep is abysmal. Parts take months to arrive, and although they have many recalls, the breakdown usually happens before the recall can be completed. I have a Safety Recall coming up in August 2023. The only way I can update my GPS maps is by installing an aftermarket unit, which costs about  $3000.

When I first received it, the camber was set for US roads, and it kept going into limp mode due to the DPF being full and needing to be regenerated.

yeah, i'm probably wrong about jeep

but fiat was boke as was chrysler so two broke companies joined up. peugeot are close to broke, so is nissan.

when they get low on capital they are tempted to pump out the cars and stuff the after sales service.

they dont really care about reputation.

honda and toyota do.

even when they stuff up, they try to rectify the situation.

australia is a hot joint and the roads arent like the autobahns in europe.

you need a pretty tough vehicle.

so look to people who need tough stuff.

the taliban, ISIS, bull catchers in the NT, safari vehicles on the serengetti...usually toyotas.

peugeots and renaults and jeeps are better suited to ferrying the contestants of master chef back and forth to the set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2q-odBFu0

aquascoot wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

yeah, i'm probably wrong about jeep but fiat was boke as was chrysler so two broke companies joined up. peugeot are close to broke, so is nissan. when they get low on capital they are tempted to pump out the cars and stuff the after sales service. they dont really care about reputation. honda and toyota do. even when they stuff up, they try to rectify the situation. australia is a hot joint and the roads arent like the autobahns in europe. you need a pretty tough vehicle. so look to people who need tough stuff. the taliban, ISIS, bull catchers in the NT, safari vehicles on the serengetti...usually toyotas. peugeots and renaults and jeeps are better suited to ferrying the contestants of master chef back and forth to the set

Just so. Ivanka likes to travel by Jeep when she's attending her various fashion events or Goya beans promotions. She's made in Chi-na all the way, but she likes to be seen stepping out of a good old American ve-hi-cle.

Same with Sloppy Steve. You always see him get into a Jeep during his  perp walks for his various arraignments. One should always get arrested in style, no? I believe Roger Stone said that.

The scum go down in some godawful armoured school bus or whatever, but the Superior Man has taste: a discrete, American-badged ve-hi-cle. Ivanka should pen a self-help book about it.

We will make America great again, no?