Why should Melissa Parke have to quit? Her comments seem eminently accurate.   :-?

Not that Labor was likely to win the seat, but Parke ought have been free to run for it.

Melissa Parke quits as Labor's Curtin 'star candidate' over Israel remarks

By Nathan Hondros
April 12, 2019 — 8.11 pm

Labor's star candidate for Julie Bishop's seat of Curtin quit on Friday night after the party entered into crisis talks over remarks she made about the Israel and Palestine conflict.

It is understood Melissa Parke withdrew her candidacy after reports she told a group of pro-Palestinian activists last month that Australia should recognise a Palestinian state and that Israel's settlements were akin to China's island building activity in the South China Sea.

https://i.imgur.com/iGkEhKz.jpg
Labor's candidate for Curtin Melissa Parke has raised the ire of the Jewish community with her strident support for Palestine.CREDIT:MARINA NEIL

In the speech she also took aim at Israel's influence in Australian politics and said there was no doubt Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, while illegal under international law, were "a reaction to and a consequence of decades of brutal occupation".

Ms Parke made unverified claims about incidents of cruelty she said had been perpetrated by Israelis at checkpoints.

"One case I remember vividly, a pregnant refugee woman was ordered at a checkpoint in Gaza to drink a bottle of bleach," she said.

"It burnt out all her throat and insides. Fortunately her baby was saved.

"Another refugee was forced to put her baby through the X-ray machine."

Despite claiming she supported current Labor policy on Israel and Palestine earlier this week, on Friday night Ms Parke said she would quit the race so her views wouldn't be a distraction.

"I've had 20 years experience in international relations and law including living and working in the Middle East," she said

"My views are well known.

"But I don’t want them to be a running distraction from electing a Labor Government, which will take urgent and strong action on climate change.

"That’s why I have decided to withdraw my candidacy.

"I look forward to working and supporting the party in other ways."

The remarks have been widely circulated throughout Jewish communities on the east coast and it is understood Victorian Labor are particularly concerned about the seat of Macnamara, which has a large number of Jewish voters and which will be vacated by retiring MP Michael Danby.

"There are already 137 nations that recognise the state of Palestine, that is more than 70 per cent of the world," Ms Parke said to a meeting of the WA Labor Friends of Palestine in March.

"And, inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing'], Australia will join that consensus once we have a Federal Labor government.

"It's also time finally for Australia to support an end to the brutal occupation of Palestine and for the right of return of the Palestinian refugees."

Ms Parke, a former lawyer for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in Gaza, said Australia had to break away from its "strategic dependence" on the United States and recognise Palestine as a state, which is contrary to Labor policy.

WAtoday also revealed earlier this week WA Labor senator and Senate Deputy President Sue Lines told the same meeting of pro-Palestinian activists that a powerful "Israel lobby" had been influencing her party's policy on Palestine and peace in the Middle East.

Senator Lines said policy in the area had stalled because "the Israeli lobby is so powerful within the party and outside of the party".

Labor had been looking to draw Liberal resources to the seat of Curtin in WA through Ms Parke's high-profile candidacy after the retirement of Ms Bishop.

Curtin, which the Liberals hold by a margin of 20.7 per cent, is one of the safest in the country, but sources have suggested the selection of conservative Celia Hammond and the retirement of the Ms Bishop could reduce the party's margin.

Ms Parke was a human rights lawyer before entering Parliament in 2007 and a junior minister for several months before Kevin Rudd lost office in 2013.

She was a strident critic of the offshore detention of asylum seekers and delivered several speeches excoriating the Coalition's "stop the boats" politics, even denouncing her own party for its support of the government's immigration policies.

In her outgoing speech in 2016, she said the government "falsely accuses asylum seekers of arriving illegally when, as observed by the United Nations and the Australian Human Rights Commission among others, it is Australia that is violating its legal obligations".

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/melissa-parke-quits-as-labor-s-curtin-star-candidate-over-israel-remarks-20190412-p51dqz.html

I can't fault her comments. However while the Jews control the money. The money controls the candidates.
Such is life.

Yeah, sad but true.

Too much foreign influence.

While ever non-Jews control the conspiracy theory industry Israel will always be in the wrong...

When are the Pallies going to stop rocketing and such?  You expect Israel to withdraw from a buffer zone, and just allow rockets to hit anywhere?  You reckon Israel withdrawing from occupied territories will mean a reduction in Palestinian attacks and not an escalation?  When has appeasement ever worked?

You're crazy.....

Go live with the Palestinians.....

Because she's an empty mouth-piece for every piece of idiocy that passes for public policy these days???

What else does she support (as if we didn't know?) ....  ::)

everyone knows    when you join the ALP   you are not allowed to have your own opinion...


you get the sack.. ::).. she didnt quit  she was pushed.

cods wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

everyone knows    when you join the ALP   you are not allowed to have your own opinion... you get the sack.. ::).. she didnt quit  she was pushed.

have you had your head in the sand for all of the past 7 years? :D :D

She's right,  how the Jews get around like protected species is truly breath taking

Its time wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 1:12pm:

She's right,  how the Jews get around like protected species is truly breath taking

You serious? 

cods wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

everyone knows    when you join the ALP   you are not allowed to have your own opinion... you get the sack.. ::).. she didnt quit  she was pushed.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1555115008

cods wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

everyone knows    when you join the ALP   you are not allowed to have your own opinion... you get the sack.. ::).. she didnt quit  she was pushed.

Do you have proof of this Codsy. I believe she found her position over Israel too far removed from labor and quit. However, if you post some evidence to back up your claim, I would like to see it. ;) ;) ;) ;)

With the growing influence of people like Melissa Parke elected to parliaments, pity Australia, and pity the world.


She has a strike through her name.

But there a plenty more like her.



Pity the world.

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:35am:

Why should Melissa Parke have to quit? Her comments seem eminently accurate.   :-? ...."There are already 137 nations that recognise the state of Palestine, that is more than 70 per cent of the world," Ms Parke said to a meeting of the WA Labor Friends of Palestine in March. "And, inshallah [Arabic for 'God willing'], Australia will join that consensus once we have a Federal Labor government. "It's also time finally for Australia to support an end to the brutal occupation of Palestine and for the right of return of the Palestinian refugees." Ms Parke, a former lawyer for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in Gaza, said Australia had to break away from its "strategic dependence" on the United States and recognise Palestine as a state, which is contrary to Labor policy.

ISLAMISTS and 'Progressives'       they do not have much in common, except a hatred for Israel.


Their common 'currency' in this world,     is that they belong to a cabal of peoples who hate what is good, and who hate the GOD of creation, the God of Jacob.

A modern rendition, of those who had loyalties to the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Those who work for, and serve, a dark spiritual force in the earth.




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IMAGE.....
http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif

"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.
WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!

Those dastardly Zionists!!

We want our land back."



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Isaiah 43:1
But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.
2  When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
3  For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
4  Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.
5  Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
6  I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
7  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.


Jeremiah 16:14
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
15  But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.


Jeremiah 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7  Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.

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Bob Carr only spoke a fraction of his opinions after his retirement, when he said in his memoirs that jews had an inordinate level of influence in Australian politics

and Carr is a jew

And Julia Irwin, Labor MP was finished when she said basically the same thing in parliament.  To a man, the entire gang, all parties, stood to boo her with thumbs pointed downwards, ala Roman style.  I was surprised she didn't reap a sudden accident or fatal disease

In this country (and elsewhere) people can talk chit about any nature/culture

but we cannot honestly voice an opinion about izrahell -- not even in Oz politics

Melissa Parke knows this.  Maybe she has kids and wants them to reach 21 and doesn't want her dog to die or her house to burn down

And here's Julia Irwin -- should be glorious Julia -- for speaking the truth, which is apparently 'offensive' and 'anti-semitic':


Quote:

"You have taken on the most implacable, arrogant, cruel and powerful lobby in the country." -- media warning to Australia Labour Member of Parliament A scathing attack on "the Jewish lobby" was launched by Australian Federal Labor MP Julia Irwin. She charged "the Jewish lobby" with being responsible for a "code of silence" forbidding parliamentary debate on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and quoted an email from an unnamed "senior media commentator" warning her: "You have taken on the most implacable, arrogant, cruel and powerful lobby in the country", and advising that she would be "singled out for vilification and, if possible, political destruction". Asked why the commentator she quoted was anonymous, Irwin told the Australian Jewish News she had promised not to reveal the name because the commentator had "felt the full force of the Jewish lobby's fury a long time ago and had gone through hell". "Anyone speaking or writing publicly on the Middle East can expect to be subjected to personal attacks and to have assumptions made about their reasons for raising the issue," she said. Irwin -- who moved a private member's motion attacking Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, leading to a vociferous debate -- told Federal Parliament she believed her motion had broken a taboo on discussing the conflict. She said she had received "hundreds of messages", mostly attacking her, following the extensive media coverage of her motion, the debate it provoked and the attempt by fellow-Labor (and Jewish) MP Michael Danby to have the motion withdrawn. Her attack brought a swift response from Executive Council of Australian Jewry president Jeremy Jones, who accused Irwin of "conjuring up the bogeyman of a powerful Jewish lobby [that] might appeal to antisemites, but certainly not to any reasonable observer". "She is acting to protect herself from the criticism she deserves," Jones said. "She puts her ignorance [on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict] on display and then complains about people who might point out her ignorance. "This would be pathetic if it was not coming from a member of parliament." South Australian Liberal MP Chris Pyne, chairman of the parliament's Israel friendship group, (no such Islamic lobby exists in australia despite thouands of Muslims living there and hundreds of mosques) said Irwin's comments, like her motion, were "simplistic and embarrassingly naive". Danby dismissed Irwin's comments as uninformed, misleading and unimportant. He said Labor's policy was clear: it supported Israel and its right to exist and right to defend itself, and unreservedly condemned suicide bombings. Hundreds of party activists have lodged a complaint against the MP applying enormous pressure for her de-selection. Liberal MP Peter King, who represents the Sydney seat of Wentworth, said Irwin had placed on the parliament "a despicable slur about Australia's Jewish community". He said Opposition Leader Simon Crean could not continue to ignore such attacks from within Labor ranks and should immediately repudiate them. Irwin, speaking in the House of Representatives "Grievance debate", when backbenchers have 10 minutes each to raise matters of concern, said she felt "the taboo on discussing the issue in this parliament has been broken"

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LINK


O'Farrell must have had to bend-over for most of his Premiership, if the number of high-teas held for the Jewish Council is any indication


And Michael Danby MP is the guy you can thank for the Africans now in Australia


LINK

PZ547 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

. Bob Carr only spoke a fraction of his opinions after his retirement, when he said in his memoirs that jews had an inordinate level of influence in Australian politics and Carr is a jew ...

Funny, i thought Carr was an Agnostic, though widely read on religious works. (Widely read on very many subjects come to that.)

Carr is quoted as saying he does not believe in "original Sin" for example.

Chinese/China a close 2nd to the influence of Jewish?

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 10:12am: . Bob Carr only spoke a fraction of his opinions after his retirement, when he said in his memoirs that jews had an inordinate level of influence in Australian politics and Carr is a jew ... Funny, i thought Carr was an Agnostic, though widely read on religious works. (Widely read on very many subjects come to that.) Carr is quoted as saying he does not believe in "original Sin" for example.

Carr said jews have way too much influence in Australian politics


so let's not attempt to derail to the fate that awaits anyone, politicians included, who dares to point out that jews DO have far too much influence in Australian politics

with reference here, as in my previous post, to Julia Irwin MP

and Michael Danby MP who facilitated the entry into Australia of who knows how many Africans, with more to come, despite the chaos which has  been unleased in Melbourne

and despite the lies of the Vic police

and a media which has been instructed to not report on African crime (but the media IS told to play the public's outrage as 'discrimination'


and of course we all know through snippits released occasionally by the media, that the entire political contingent -- all parties -- being flown regularly to ISRAEL !!!

WHY???

I've asked in this (and many other online fora) repeatedly -- WHY are Australian politicians (who after all are servants paid by the public to serve the public) required to go to ISRAEL several times a year ??

WHY ???

but they DO

Off they go, caps in hand, on jets to izrahell

for what reason??

other than --- izrahell -- ZIONISM -- tells 'our' politicians what to do

and it IS done

and to earn their keep, 'our' traitorous politicians muck around with media sound bites and other irrelevant nonsense

to give us the impression they're actually DOING something --- SUPPOSEDLY for us, for OUR benefit

when in reality, ALL 'our' politicians are TOLD what to do and when to do it and how to do it

by izrahelli zionists

Then people wonder why 'our' country is falling apart

So Melissa Parke doubtless has a clue about how the land lies

and has decided to opt out of the immediate danger zone

yet online, on Youtube, jews are trying to tell the world that IT IS WRITTEN in jew holy books, in prophecies, that the jews must NOT create a state or country for themselves.  And IT IS WRITTEN that jews must NOT attempt to undermine the countries in which they reside and further, that jews must (because IT IS WRITTEN) pray sincerely for the wellbeing and prosperity of any country in which they reside

IT IS WRITTEN that jews may NOT live in the holy lands until the coming of their messiah

So jews who uphold the tenets of their religion OPPOSE the 'israel' of today, because it contravenes their god's law

yet the 'israel' of today is guilty of genociding the Palestinians and the world looks the other way, mostly, because ---- as earnest jews explain -- because zionism has coopted judaism, hides behind judaism and uses the 'holocaust' and 'anti semitism' to browbeat anyone who calls them out

which is why Melissa Parke has walked away from the fight she cannot win, despite speaking the truth about zionist izrahell's agenda to steal whole cloth that which was recognised as Palestine, murdering tens of thousands in the process

and dragging teh zionist controlled US into the fray, which in turn has dragged Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, UK etc. into ongoing phony wars of genocidal intent in the mid east

Aussies killed and died to further izrahell's agenda and ruthless genocide

Australian politicians, all of them, are beaten dogs without conscience or principle or morals

Melissa Parke, hopefully, will continue to tell her truth from the sidelines

a truth most of us acknowledge anyway

as we watch that truth beaten into silence

by those like the latest US rabbi who claimed to be an (of course) 'holocaust survivor'  --- and who has been unmasked publicly

but meh, no worries --- ten more will rush to fill his place

Live long and prosper Melissa Parke.  Sure, you could have done better.  You could have carried truth via a political position of greater prominence

but we understand that you'd like for yourself and your family and pets to continue living

so do your best

because it's a lot better than most


Edit to add:  a decent true jew tells the truth about occupation of izrael by zionism and how zionism is NOT judaism

give it a listen.  Everyone should. And the rabbi is just one of MANY jews trying to awaken the world to the facts

VIDEO


then grab some books by Dr. Slomo Sand, 'When and How Was the Jewish People Invented' sold millions of copies in izrael alone and has been reprinted many times in the past few years in addition to published translations

Not ONE jewish historian or academic opposed what he wrote, he says.  Because they know he's recounted the true facts.  They've always known what he puts forth before the world

Glad to clear up that Carr is not a Jew.

You're welcome.  :)

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Glad to clear up that Carr is not a Jew. You're welcome.  :)

quit trying to derail and divert please

How could a matter of fact derail my own thread?  :o

Bob Carr lashes Israel for fabrications and bribes

Former foreign minister Bob Carr has lashed out at Israel, accusing the Jewish state of fabricating history and bribing Australian polit­icians, in an attack condemned by the Turnbull government.  (The Australian)

Former foreign minister Bob Carr has hit out at what he calls the "pro-Israel lobby in Melbourne", saying it wielded "extraordinary influence" on Australia's policy during his time

Bob Carr at it again - The Australian Jewish News
https://www.jewishnews.net.au/bob-carr-at-it-again/38409

COMMUNAL leaders and politicians have blasted the inaugural patron of Labor Friends of Palestine, Bob Carr, who delivered a one-sided speech against Israel last week that accused the country of being on the road to “apartheid”.


Former Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr has cancelled a speaking appearance at an event because he refuses to be involved in any organisation not committed to a peaceful path for Palestinian statehood.


From mensch to meshuggah: why Bob Carr turned on Israel
https://www.crikey.com.au/2014/11/10/from-mensch-to-meshuggah-why...

Bob Carr, the former foreign minister (2012-2013) and New South Wales premier (1996-2006), has gone from Israel’s No. 1 pin-up politician in Australia to one of the most reviled.


Has Bob Carr now descended to advocating the end of Israel ...
www.jwire.com.au/has-bob-carr-now-descended-to-advocating-the-end...

Bob Carr’s pro-Palestinian stance and his active involvement with events associated with that, as well as his obvious intense dislike for Israel and the ‘Jewish Lobby’ he has often referred to, reflect his own personal bias and feelings

Carr sparks brawl over political influence of Melbourne ...
theconversation.com/carr-sparks-brawl-over-political-influence-of...

A defiant Bob Carr says he is proud to have resisted the bullying influence of the pro-Israel lobby on the Gillard government, after critics have accused him of bigotry


Bob Carr lashes Michael Danby over taxpayer-funded ad in ...
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/bob-carr-lashes...

Former Labor foreign minister Bob Carr says he “can’t believe” federal MP Michael Danby used taxpayer funds a second time to pay for an advertisement attacking the ABC’s coverage of Israel


AIJAC and ZFA to Bob Carr: “We disagree” » J-Wire
www.jwire.com.au/aijac-to-bob-carr-we-disagree

The Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council has said that it disagrees with Foreign Minister Bob Carr’s claim about the legality of settlements

BOB CARR. The Best of 2018: How the Israeli Lobby operates.
https://johnmenadue.com/bob-carr-the-best-of-2018-how-the-israeli...

Jewish leaders hit back at Bob Carr - SMH.com.au
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/jewish-leaders-hit-back-at...
Pro-Israel leaders have dismissed Bob Carr’s claims they wielded “extraordinary influence” over prime minister Julia Gillard as “scurrilous gossip” and a “figment of his imagination

Bob Carr's texts to Gillard reveal 'extraordinary ...
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bob-carrs-texts-to-gillard...

Bob Carr has published private text messages between himself and Julia Gillard to reveal the “extraordinary” level of influence the pro-Israel lobby had on the former prime minister’s office.


Bob Carr Archives - The Australian Jewish News
https://www.jewishnews.net.au/tag/bob-carr

OUR community is justifiably concerned about recent developments within the ALP. The misguided push by some elements, led by Bob Carr, to unilaterally recognise the "State of Palestine" has gained some traction at recent state Labor conferences.

Bob Carr under fire from Jewish leaders over influence of ...
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bob-carr-under...

FORMER foreign minister Bob Carr has hit back at those who have accused him of being a bigot, and denied his views on Israel were influenced by Muslim communities in western Sydney electorates


Bob Carr: Foreign Policy Subcontracted to Jews and Pessach ...
galusaustralis.com/2014/04/8262/bob-carr-foreign-policy-sb...

Bob Carr was originally quite pro-Israel and supportive of the Jewish community back in the early 1980s when he first went into parliament. He was founder of the group “Labor friends of Israel”


Bob Carr | The Times of Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/bob-carr

31/07/2017 · Bob Carr decries ‘unhealthy’ influence over Canberra’s foreign policy, which has been ‘subcontracted’ to Jewish donors By Raphael Ahren


https://www.jewishnews.net.au/bob-sessive-compulsive-distorter/66268

Bob Carr’s attacks on Israel and silence on China highlight his hypocrisy, writes Labor MP Michael Danby. DOES he have no sense of shame? Is there nothing he won’t do to defame Israel, or the local Jewish community, to push his obsessions about unilaterally recognising “Palestine”?

All of the above, further evidence that Carr is NOT a Jew.

You're welcome.  :)

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

All of the above, further evidence that Carr is NOT a Jew. You're welcome.  :)

It's not 'further evidence' at all

The fact Carr's ancestry has been scrupulously scrubbed indicates considerable lower bottom lip jutting by the usual suspects

In any event, it was one phrase in my voluminous posts which for some reason you have chosen to focus on, to the detriment of what you say is 'your own thread'

the reasons for your doing so would be obvious to most


Now --- why don't we focus instead on religious jews attempts to alert the world to the fact that according to jewish law, jews are forbidden by their god to live in the holy lands until their messiah appears

let's focus on that

Then why not pay attention when religious jews insist that izrael is a creation of ZIONISM which HIDES behind judaism and USES judaism to silence critics of zionists and zionism

and I've provided a link to a video so people can hear it from a rabbi

and also supplied has been the title and author of the book by Shlomo Sand, 'How and When was the Jewish People INVENTED' which has broken all sales records in several languages

LOL.

You stated that Carr was a Jew.

You are wrong.

Very wrong. You could not be more wrong if you tried.

You are now wallowing in your wrongness. That's so funny!  :D

I agree with the sentiments of Parke.  However, that sort of loose cannon about the place in an election campaign would be a distraction the ALP don't need generally, and their chances of winning Julie Bishop's seat would be slim at best.  Good pragmatic decision.

.. because she's another mealy-mouthed empty-headed idiot who would prefer to see Israelis murdered than Palestinians chastised for murdering Israelis... many Israelis deplore Israeli policy against Palestine and there are Palestinian reps in the Israeli Gnesset - how many Jews are there in any Arab representative house?

The Arab population of Israel is 21% of the total population (and they get the vote, too) - every Pallie rocket stands one chance in five of killing a fellow Arab...

How many Jews are in danger in Palestine from Israeli counter-attacks? How many Jews in Palestine get the vote? How many Jews in Arab nations get the vote and full civil rights?

I used to scoff at someone who suggested that the whole joint over there should be nuked. That would settle it once and for all.

Obviously, a shocking and crazy thought ... however ... it does seem to grow on one as an idea the longer this religious stupidity drags on.  ;)

If this Thread is going to the Yellow Brick Road to a debate over Israel/Palestine, then I suspect it has already been done here like it has on other Forums exhaustively.

Same.  That way they both can choose if they want a radiated homeland.

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

I used to scoff at someone who suggested that the whole joint over there should be nuked. That would settle it once and for all. Obviously, a shocking and crazy thought ... however ... it does seem to grow on one as an idea the longer this religious stupidity drags on.  ;)

Tarrant Solution.... let God sort 'em out...