So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money.

Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money.

I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets?

Can you support this?

Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances?

Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes.

Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc.

Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government.

Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable.

So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal?


Quote:

Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418

The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment?

But I thought we spent billions sending Australians to die in Afghanistan to make a better life for Afghans.

So what's wrong with a few thousand for an autistic kid and his family to have better lives? They're all people.

Unless the claims in Afghanistan were misrepresented in order to get public support (see: electoral interference) for war because otherwise it was unpalatable and the government just wanted to play with their toy soldiers and needed a convincing story.

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 1:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:43pm: The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment? But I thought we spent billions sending Australians to die in Afghanistan to make a better life for Afghans. So what's wrong with a few thousand for an autistic kid and his family to have better lives? They're all people. Unless the claims in Afghanistan were misrepresented in order to get public support (see: electoral interference) for war because otherwise it was unpalatable and the government just wanted to play with their toy soldiers and needed a convincing story.

We weren't going to afghan until Bali.
Make of that what you will but Australia told the US to piss off until the Bali bombings event. Then little Johnny climbed back up Georges arse. 

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 1:17pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:43pm: The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment? But I thought we spent billions sending Australians to die in Afghanistan to make a better life for Afghans. So what's wrong with a few thousand for an autistic kid and his family to have better lives? They're all people. Unless the claims in Afghanistan were misrepresented in order to get public support (see: electoral interference) for war because otherwise it was unpalatable and the government just wanted to play with their toy soldiers and needed a convincing story. We weren't going to afghan until Bali. Make of that what you will but Australia told the US to piss off until the Bali bombings event. Then little Johnny climbed back up Georges arse.

Why are you discrediting this entire website by posting blatantly false and easily checked information?

Australia had troops in Afghanistan in 2001. The Bali bombings were in 2002.

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418

It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything.

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything.

Yeah. How?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 5:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 5:40pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything. Yeah. How?

they both have jobs as well as running their own business.

This is the sort of person we should be encouraging to stay.

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 5:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 5:52pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 5:40pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything. Yeah. How? they both have jobs as well as running their own business. This is the sort of person we should be encouraging to stay.

Get them to sign a contract. What happens if one of them carcs it or their business goes under?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:00pm:

Get them to sign a contract. What happens if one of them carcs it or their business goes under?

I have no problem with them been asked to sign.
As for your speculation, two can play that game .... what happens if one of them wins $600m on lottoland?  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:00pm: Get them to sign a contract. What happens if one of them carcs it or their business goes under? I have no problem with them been asked to sign. As for your speculation, two can play that game .... what happens if one of them wins $600m on lottoland?  :D :D

I'll slide down a 200 ft razor blade using my balls as brakes.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:14pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:00pm: Get them to sign a contract. What happens if one of them carcs it or their business goes under? I have no problem with them been asked to sign. As for your speculation, two can play that game .... what happens if one of them wins $600m on lottoland?  :D :D I'll slide down a 200 ft razor blade using my balls as brakes.

you better hope they don't win then  ;D ;D ;D

If they get sent back to the Philippines there are less supports for them.

The whole family suffers not just the autistic kid.

We can provide for them.

Why shouldn't we?

Why are you outraged?

Does it have something to do with the indignation of having to work your whole life and lay tax?

Does bombing little brown girls make you feel like a man again?

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything.

Are you suggesting we create a second class citizenship status especially for them?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment?

It's right up there with those who get injured on their weekend sports game or night bender who sneak into work 'carrying' their injury (and if you can 'carry' an injury, then you are fit to work!) , fake an accident and go on compo.  ::)

Spongers & Bludgers.  ::)

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

If they get sent back to the Philippines there are less supports for them. The whole family suffers not just the autistic kid. We can provide for them. Why shouldn't we? Why are you outraged? Does it have something to do with the indignation of having to work your whole life and lay tax? Does bombing little brown girls make you feel like a man again?

No Spatchcock - its not about bleeding heart do-good try-hard attitudes.
Besides your own Health System here in Australia can only provide 'Research' as its main success, where it just 'survives', (not lives) in all other departments at an ever growing cost.
Its also about saying "NO" to irresponsible over-population and the problems it causes.

Maybe you should send them Condoms?

But hey, I know what your argument will be: But all of Australia's kids are being 'used' by parents towards claiming Autism for benefits.

Autism = the behaviour of  being 'dependent'??

I have no idea what you're talking about.

My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense?

When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good.

So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards?

Why is money to help only good if used for death?

Why are we so inhumane?

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 1:17pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:43pm: The family has been out here for 5 years and their autistic son is 11 years old? Did they know before coming that this scenario would affect their migration status? Did they see Australia as a gravy train from the start? They've been out here for 5 years which means they've put hardly anything into the country and in return expect $100,000's worth the treatment? But I thought we spent billions sending Australians to die in Afghanistan to make a better life for Afghans. So what's wrong with a few thousand for an autistic kid and his family to have better lives? They're all people. Unless the claims in Afghanistan were misrepresented in order to get public support (see: electoral interference) for war because otherwise it was unpalatable and the government just wanted to play with their toy soldiers and needed a convincing story. We weren't going to afghan until Bali. Make of that what you will but Australia told the US to piss off until the Bali bombings event. Then little Johnny climbed back up Georges arse.

Err, not quite.

Australia first committed troops to Afghanistan in October 2001.
The Bali Bombings occurred in October 2002.

That is a twelve month difference between events, you realise?  Afghanistan happened first, 12 months earlier.   ::)

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm:

I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane?

Why don't you just work like a good slave to the Foreign Ownership of UK, USA and every other Nation over Australia, as the Australian that you are (A Criminal and Racist) and just bide your time as they 'self-destruct' and fall away from your success.

Welcome to the New Age - here at the Begining of the World

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm:

I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane?

Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way.

But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way.
It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'.

Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts?
Nah - not according to the Media!

Jasin wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media!

My brother pointed something out to me the other day Jasin. Propaganda coming from the man isn't directed at the poor. It's directed at the other high ups. Poor people have no voice in the media because they don't consider them worth noting. That's why it's all dating shows and other crap. It's for them. Not us.

Jasin wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:30pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Why don't you just work like a good slave to the Foreign Ownership of UK, USA and every other Nation over Australia, as the Australian that you are (A Criminal and Racist) and just bide your time as they 'self-destruct' and fall away from your success. Welcome to the New Age - here at the Begining of the World

If you don't work you can't afford anything. This is the world we live in.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media! My brother pointed something out to me the other day Jasin. Propaganda coming from the man isn't directed at the poor. It's directed at the other high ups. Poor people have no voice in the media because they don't consider them worth noting. That's why it's all dating shows and other crap. It's for them. Not us.

And if you want to be cool you want to be like them, not like us.

And if you don't want to be cool you have anhedonia which is depression and you need to be drugged.

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:30pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Why don't you just work like a good slave to the Foreign Ownership of UK, USA and every other Nation over Australia, as the Australian that you are (A Criminal and Racist) and just bide your time as they 'self-destruct' and fall away from your success. Welcome to the New Age - here at the Begining of the World If you don't work you can't afford anything. This is the world we live in.

Often I work for 'Free', especially for people who 'can't' do what is needed because of very unfortunate circumstances and because they are nice and they entertain me in return and put on nice meals and bbq's for me or they do something that they 'can do' (like make doors open for me) for me, of their own accord.

The Best things in Life are Free.
The Best things.  ;)

Jasin wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media!

It promotes being cool as having the latest coffee table and cooking. It promotes domestic bliss. It's the best "reality" they can offer.

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:44pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media! My brother pointed something out to me the other day Jasin. Propaganda coming from the man isn't directed at the poor. It's directed at the other high ups. Poor people have no voice in the media because they don't consider them worth noting. That's why it's all dating shows and other crap. It's for them. Not us. And if you want to be cool you want to be like them, not like us. And if you don't want to be cool you have anhedonia which is depression and you need to be drugged.

What's wrong with being drugged. Loads of richos are on pills. Even Jamie Packer is dosed up. Being cool isn't about status and money. Or being happy. Free people are way cooler than some dude named Alistair who plays squash with Roland on thursday because he can't stand his trophy wife's guts.

Jasin wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:44pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:30pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Why don't you just work like a good slave to the Foreign Ownership of UK, USA and every other Nation over Australia, as the Australian that you are (A Criminal and Racist) and just bide your time as they 'self-destruct' and fall away from your success. Welcome to the New Age - here at the Begining of the World If you don't work you can't afford anything. This is the world we live in. Often I work for 'Free', especially for people who 'can't' do what is needed because of very unfortunate circumstances and because they are nice and they entertain me in return and put on nice meals and bbq's for me or they do something that they 'can do' (like make doors open for me) for me, of their own accord. The Best things in Life are Free. The Best things.  ;)

Good for you Jasin. What goes around comes around. Australia needs more people like you.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:53pm:

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:44pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media! My brother pointed something out to me the other day Jasin. Propaganda coming from the man isn't directed at the poor. It's directed at the other high ups. Poor people have no voice in the media because they don't consider them worth noting. That's why it's all dating shows and other crap. It's for them. Not us. And if you want to be cool you want to be like them, not like us. And if you don't want to be cool you have anhedonia which is depression and you need to be drugged. What's wrong with being drugged. Loads of richos are on pills. Even Jamie Packer is dosed up. Being cool isn't about status and money. Or being happy. Free people are way cooler than some dude named Alistair who plays squash with Roland on thursday because he can't stand his trophy wife's guts.

I'm saying there's nothing wrong with you.

Failure to conform is anhedonia.

Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:53pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:44pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:36pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 7:26pm: I have no idea what you're talking about. My arguement is why are they a burden on the health system and therefore economy when we are spending billions on defense? When we go kill brown people it is to help society. And this is good. So why is it bad to help society by giving money to retards? Why is money to help only good if used for death? Why are we so inhumane? Because if we relax the laws like in this instance it will start a avalanche. People need to realise that. Australia doesn't have to prop up non citizens from around the world. Loads of our own people are in a bad way. But Hammer, that may be the 'truth' of the matter. But the Australian Media doesn't 'promote' it that way. It promotes Australia full of 'reality' Shows of Over-Indulgence and the 'recreational' lifestyle of extravagance and Public Holidays. So many Cooking Shows, Australia is aplenty of food. So many Dating Shows, Australia is aplenty of pussy. So many Holidaying/Travel Shows, Australia is aplenty of 'Spending' of aplenty of 'Money'. Australia - the poor down-trodden nation of Convicts? Nah - not according to the Media! My brother pointed something out to me the other day Jasin. Propaganda coming from the man isn't directed at the poor. It's directed at the other high ups. Poor people have no voice in the media because they don't consider them worth noting. That's why it's all dating shows and other crap. It's for them. Not us. And if you want to be cool you want to be like them, not like us. And if you don't want to be cool you have anhedonia which is depression and you need to be drugged. What's wrong with being drugged. Loads of richos are on pills. Even Jamie Packer is dosed up. Being cool isn't about status and money. Or being happy. Free people are way cooler than some dude named Alistair who plays squash with Roland on thursday because he can't stand his trophy wife's guts. I'm saying there's nothing wrong with you. Failure to conform is anhedonia.

Conform! Why would I want to conform to the s h it we are born into that is killing off tiny pieces of what we were day by day. We are the smart ones. Not mentally and psychologically challenged. You get a spec of sands worth of existence and then it's back into the earth. I plan to make  my may life mine. Not somebody else's. I want to live, laugh and screw. And in no particular order.

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 5:40pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything. Are you suggesting we create a second class citizenship status especially for them?

not just them ... you can volunteer

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 5:40pm: Spatchcock wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:33pm: So here we have the government deporting a family because one of their children costs the health service money. Is this something you can agree with? Like I can understand the medical treatment costs money. I can also understand this is a person. Is a person only a statistic and has a value based on government budgets? Can you support this? Are you concerned about your taxes? If so, is this frustration at being a full time worker and not enjoying having to work to survive and are trying to reclaim some lost power or dignity by asserting your outrage over "your" finances? Because really this has nothing to do with your finances. Day to day nothing changes. Meanwhile expenses are made for fighter jets, submarines, navy ships, new army vehicles etc. Which are used to kill... And this is a priority spending for the government. Whereas this funding is to provide better quality of life for a family and the community...... Which is not acceptable. So anyway, does the government represent you? Or are they a different breed? Are they genetically predisposed to holding a temperament that is far removed from what is normal? Quote: Family fears deportation because their 11yo son deemed a 'burden' to taxpayers https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-12/family-facing-deportation-because-son-taxpayer-burden/10994418 It's also important to note that the family have offered to cover all the medical costs, so they won't actually cost the govt. anything. Are you suggesting we create a second class citizenship status especially for them? not just them ... you can volunteer

That's a (John Smith's) Chip Packet if ever you've read one!  ::) Their offer to pay for their own Medical Costs (in this very costly Australia) is like being a 'Chip' in a very big packet of Air.  ::) They pay for 1 year's medical effort then that's it from them - they're officially off the hook at living up to their words.  ::)