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Message started by The Mechanic on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm

Title: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by The Mechanic on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:56pm
"Begins??????"

Old news.

Link.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by The Mechanic on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:02pm
Labor is also looking at changing Australia Day...

WTF...

is Labor going to bow to every minority group in australia??  :-/

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gordon on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:04pm
Why is Islam a wholly cow?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm

I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Setanta on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:18pm
I know Anne and she roots like a rattle snake.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Valkie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:50am
I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:49am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.



this course of action by a leftie  is symptomatic of why the leftie is part of the problem , not part of the solution.

"attempt to insult someone" is seen as a problem??

but is it??

are people really that unsure of themselves, that ungrounded in core confidence that they need "universal approval" to "maintain state".

sure an insult might sting and someone being mean to you isnt pleasant but thats just life. life is harsh.  and until you accept that life is pretty harsh and completely unfair, youre screwed.

the point is what do you do about it.

and this is where lefties simply go down the slippery slope to mediocrity and follow the path of least resistance to making people a failure.

because when you feel pain and identify with it and let the environment determine your mental state...you go down.

and when you feel pain and use it as the emotional juice to effect change and propel you into an upward spiral...you go up.


when someone is mean to you , when you see a rich guy...its just so easy to be a victim or be envious and if you do, you have let the environment run your state and you will inevitably have a state crash.

but if you can harness pain to use it as a lesson in growth,
if you can look at a rich successful happy guy and study his success...the progress you can make is unlimited.

its a harsh world
we all want to move up
you cant move up without building massive resilience.
you cant build muscle without going to the gym and feeling pain
you cant build a business without the fear and ambiguity and chaos of solving problems.

if you think everyone has to be nice to you for you to "cope", you are screwed.

you need to have just that little bit of anger to fuel a response to take action to go up.

you see this in the great sports captains when their team is losing. they get a bit mad, they use that anger to focus and they move up. 

you dont stay angry like that angry old grandpa who is always angry but you dont sit in the locker room at 1/2 time, when you are down, and get all butt hurt and start blaming the ref. you draw on core confidence, resilience and determination to make it happen and you enjoy the journey for the journey itself.  this is the way of the superior man and the leftie needs to stop always putting people on the path top mediocrity


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:00am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.



No religious idiot should be treated special, just because they scammed a special right that no-one else has.


Fkk her, she can cop the sh1t same as everyone else.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:02am
The way we keep oppressing these Muslims, they'll be running the show soon... no votes, no right to stand for public office, second class citizenship...... oh .... wait a minute......

Back to the drawing board....

Trouble with some Mussos is they are 'offended' when someone else doesn't want to be part of their religion/culture....

I do believe this nation has had enough of the 'because he/she feels it' nonsense that has wrought so much terrible harm to this nation and society....

How come whitey can't feel 'offended' when some neo-convert Kaffir to Islam tells him he's a wharte, prejudiced bastard .. or a Christian can't feel 'offended' when some Islamite says they can't build a church in La'emba...

Same old one way street over and over.... get yourself that Accredited Victimhood Status card and you're laughing.... you can do whatever you want and nobody can touch you....

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:30am

Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
Why is Islam a wholly cow?



Like, an entire one?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)


No it's not.

I love my country, and I want to protect it as much as I can.

People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.

We don't want traitors like that here.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)


No it's not.

I love my country, and I want to protect it as much as I can.

People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.

We don't want traitors like that here.



So you want a law that targets individuals not even by name but a nick they use on a web message board. Do you add names or nicks as needed or will there be other specific deportation laws?

Yeah you're fkking patriot and a genius.  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:57am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)


No it's not.

I love my country, and I want to protect it as much as I can.

People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.

We don't want traitors like that here.



So you want a law that targets individuals not even by name but a nick they use on a web message board.


No.

Not sure where you got that from.

I just want traitors removed from my country.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:57am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)


No it's not.

I love my country, and I want to protect it as much as I can.

People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.

We don't want traitors like that here.



So you want a law that targets individuals not even by name but a nick they use on a web message board.


No.

Not sure where you got that from.

I just want traitors removed from my country.



And are they traitors?



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by John Smith on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:18am

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.


Plus, they openly support Putin.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Fireball on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:
We don't want traitors like that here.


So, when are you and mothball leaving?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick, or some sh1t like that.


Anyway he is, as per usual, wrong



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor. But if you have evidence that they have perpetuate someones death, the police n'twill prolly want to know about that.

Or are you facilitating yet another poorly developed argument with hysterical hyperbole?


That isn't being a fkken traitor, d1ckhead  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:45am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:49am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.



this course of action by a leftie  is symptomatic of why the leftie is part of the problem , not part of the solution.

"attempt to insult someone" is seen as a problem??

but is it??

are people really that unsure of themselves, that ungrounded in core confidence that they need "universal approval" to "maintain state".

sure an insult might sting and someone being mean to you isnt pleasant but thats just life. life is harsh.  and until you accept that life is pretty harsh and completely unfair, youre screwed.

the point is what do you do about it.

and this is where lefties simply go down the slippery slope to mediocrity and follow the path of least resistance to making people a failure.

because when you feel pain and identify with it and let the environment determine your mental state...you go down.

and when you feel pain and use it as the emotional juice to effect change and propel you into an upward spiral...you go up.


when someone is mean to you , when you see a rich guy...its just so easy to be a victim or be envious and if you do, you have let the environment run your state and you will inevitably have a state crash.

but if you can harness pain to use it as a lesson in growth,
if you can look at a rich successful happy guy and study his success...the progress you can make is unlimited.

its a harsh world
we all want to move up
you cant move up without building massive resilience.
you cant build muscle without going to the gym and feeling pain
you cant build a business without the fear and ambiguity and chaos of solving problems.

if you think everyone has to be nice to you for you to "cope", you are screwed.

you need to have just that little bit of anger to fuel a response to take action to go up.

you see this in the great sports captains when their team is losing. they get a bit mad, they use that anger to focus and they move up. 

you dont stay angry like that angry old grandpa who is always angry but you dont sit in the locker room at 1/2 time, when you are down, and get all butt hurt and start blaming the ref. you draw on core confidence, resilience and determination to make it happen and you enjoy the journey for the journey itself.  this is the way of the superior man and the leftie needs to stop always putting people on the path top mediocrity


The only person to be prosecuted under 18C was Andrew Bolt. He didn't just call a few Boongs some bad names, he used both his column and TV show to target specific Aboriginal people with the hope of ending their careers, and he used lies to do so.

So, sure. If Andrew Bolt, or any other shock jock or Tele columnist, were to use their position to lie about members of the Muslim community, I'd be quite happy for a vehicle like 18C being used to shut them down or force them to apologise.

We're not talking about one-off insults here, we're talking about protecting people from those in power - the Alan Joneses, the Andrew Bolts, the Ray Hadleys.

The media, and particularly the print media, has no laws to prevent the sort of targeted and sustained disinformation campaigns people like Bolt carry out.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor.


It most certainly is.

They're working against the best interests of our country.

Ship 'em out!

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:06pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:49am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.



this course of action by a leftie  is symptomatic of why the leftie is part of the problem , not part of the solution.

"attempt to insult someone" is seen as a problem??

but is it??

are people really that unsure of themselves, that ungrounded in core confidence that they need "universal approval" to "maintain state".

sure an insult might sting and someone being mean to you isnt pleasant but thats just life. life is harsh.  and until you accept that life is pretty harsh and completely unfair, youre screwed.

the point is what do you do about it.

and this is where lefties simply go down the slippery slope to mediocrity and follow the path of least resistance to making people a failure.

because when you feel pain and identify with it and let the environment determine your mental state...you go down.

and when you feel pain and use it as the emotional juice to effect change and propel you into an upward spiral...you go up.


when someone is mean to you , when you see a rich guy...its just so easy to be a victim or be envious and if you do, you have let the environment run your state and you will inevitably have a state crash.

but if you can harness pain to use it as a lesson in growth,
if you can look at a rich successful happy guy and study his success...the progress you can make is unlimited.

its a harsh world
we all want to move up
you cant move up without building massive resilience.
you cant build muscle without going to the gym and feeling pain
you cant build a business without the fear and ambiguity and chaos of solving problems.

if you think everyone has to be nice to you for you to "cope", you are screwed.

you need to have just that little bit of anger to fuel a response to take action to go up.

you see this in the great sports captains when their team is losing. they get a bit mad, they use that anger to focus and they move up. 

you dont stay angry like that angry old grandpa who is always angry but you dont sit in the locker room at 1/2 time, when you are down, and get all butt hurt and start blaming the ref. you draw on core confidence, resilience and determination to make it happen and you enjoy the journey for the journey itself.  this is the way of the superior man and the leftie needs to stop always putting people on the path top mediocrity


The only person to be prosecuted under 18C was Andrew Bolt. He didn't just call a few Boongs some bad names, he used both his column and TV show to target specific Aboriginal people with the hope of ending their careers, and he used lies to do so.

So, sure. If Andrew Bolt, or any other shock jock or Tele columnist, were to use their position to lie about members of the Muslim community, I'd be quite happy for a vehicle like 18C being used to shut them down or force them to apologise.

We're not talking about one-off insults here, we're talking about protecting people from those in power - the Alan Joneses, the Andrew Bolts, the Ray Hadleys.

The media, and particularly the print media, has no laws to prevent the sort of targeted and sustained disinformation campaigns people like Bolt carry out.



K...heres the thing.

i like Bolt and i like Jones and i think both are super smart guys

BUT.

i aint listening to them.

you know why?

because they are just as bad as the lefties for being

angry all the time
looking to blame people
making people feel like they live in scarcity
vibing with toxic negativity.

if you are jones or bolt and you spend your day on talk back listening to angry people who are negative, THEN YOU BECOME ANGRY AND NEGATIVE.

its so easy to be successful in australia.
sometimes i think the whole dammed nation is either vibing with the angry victim vibe of alan jones or vibing with the angry victim vibe of Q and A.

its such a bonus to those trying to climb the narrow road.
there is literally no one on it.

its like a 6 lane autobahn at 3 am .

i could use some company.

why arent people fans of a positive dynamic narrative?

because its just too dammed hard.
its so much easier to be a negative little worm and victim then to get off your ass and grind it out to the bitter end .

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor.


It most certainly is.

They're working against the best interests of our country.

Ship 'em out!



How are they doing that?


BTW have you reported that death they caused yet, seems important.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:11pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:45am:
The only person to be prosecuted under 18C was Andrew Bolt. He didn't just call a few Boongs some bad names, he used both his column and TV show to target specific Aboriginal people with the hope of ending their careers, and he used lies to do so.


Sorry, Karnal, you're wrong.  There were far more than just Andrew Bolt:  Section 18C: What racial vilification complaints have been upheld, dismissed by a judge?    ::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:12pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor.


It most certainly is.

They're working against the best interests of our country.

Ship 'em out!



How are they doing that?


By condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

Pay attention.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



The up side of that reasoning is that a heap of filthy muslims will be thrown out as well.


It can only be good for the country to rid ourselves of as many undesirables as possible.  :) :) :)


The less religious nutbags in this country the better.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:16pm
Your country in in decline if you can't criticize religion.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor.


It most certainly is.

They're working against the best interests of our country.

Ship 'em out!



How are they doing that?


By condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

Pay attention.



Have you reported the death they perpetuated yet, seems important.


Also does not fit the meaning of traitors.  :) :)


traitor
noun [ C ] UK ​ /ˈtreɪ.tər/ US ​ /ˈtreɪ.t̬ɚ/ disapproving

a person who is not loyal or stops being loyal to their own country, social class, beliefs, etc.:


A first year lawyer could blow your accusation out of the water within a couple of minutes




But threatening to take out an aircraft as a terrorist act now that comes a lot closer to traitorous behaviour.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by freediver on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:22pm

Quote:
The only person to be prosecuted under 18C was Andrew Bolt.


Crap.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:22pm
Indeed. Traitor fits.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by freediver on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:25pm
Gandalf once tried to argue that government, not Islam, is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

Perhaps he meant Muslims in government.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:43pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 12:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.



That is not what greegy was on about.

Im pretty sure that greegy thinks they're traitors because they don't agree with that muslim chick ...


Nope.  Wrong again.

They're traitors because they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

They want to destroy our society.

No place for people like that here.

Get rid of 'em.

And, their support for Trump and Putin is totally unacceptable as well.



That isn't being a traitor.


It most certainly is.

They're working against the best interests of our country.

Ship 'em out!



How are they doing that?


By condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death.

Pay attention.



Have you reported the death they perpetuated yet, seems important.


Also does not fit the meaning of traitors.  :) :)


traitor
noun [ C ] UK ​ /ˈtreɪ.tər/ US ​ /ˈtreɪ.t̬ɚ/ disapproving

a person who is not loyal or stops being loyal to their own country, social class, beliefs, etc.:


Yep, that's them - traitors.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:
People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.


Most importantly, they insist on telling porkies. Homo and the Mechanic are two posters who systematically use fibs to propagate their exclusive, elitist agenda. It's an agenda that's totally against Australia's interests. Their vision for Australia is backward, insular and shut-off. It's a vision that would lead directly to the poverty experienced by South Africans during the economic sanctions of the Apartheid years.

Not only do they tell porkies about their vision, they avoid all discussion of its social and economic consequences. They are completely blind to this. Their fear and hostility creates denial of the most basic economic realities, such as:

1. Australia's immigration has led directly to economic growth. We've had 24 years of growth due to immigration. Immigration creates jobs in housing construction, education and other services, such as health, retail and food.

2. Globalization and tariff reduction has led directly to massive price cuts. Goods such as clothing, electronics and building supplies have come down by over 100% since the 1980s in real terms. Financial deregulation has led to more capital entering Australia, and remember, the Australian economy is driven by foreign investment.

3. Without immigration, the economy would spiral into long-term, generational recession. Australia has an ageing population. If we didn't import doctors and nurses and IT consultants and many other specialist professions, the cost of these services would spike. If we didn't import these skills, many areas of the economy would be unsustainable. Australians would need to travel overseas for treatment, as many do for cosmetic surgery or dental services, for example, to countries like Thailand and India.

4. While the number one source of migrants to Australia is still Great Britain, we can't sustain an immigration program without non-European migrants. Europe also has an ageing population. While the European economy stays strong, less people choose to migrate. The White Australia Policy was discontinued in the 1970s, when the post-war European economy had all but recovered from WWII and was no longer shedding migrants.

5. Migrants, and in particular, refugees, make excellent workers and citizens. They do the jobs no one else wants - hence 711s staffed almost solely with Indian and Asian students. Those in the process of applying for visas are far less likely to commit crimes and have their visa applications rejected.

6. Australians, on the whole, see themselves as global citizens. We love travelling. It's almost a right of passage for kids to do a gap year travelling and living overseas. We provide the world with major talent in business, academia and entertainment. Rupert Murdoch, Germaine Greer and Russell Crowe are just a few names known around the world. Australians - and Australian businesses - are all over Asia and the developing world. Despite our small population, Australians are on a par with British and American ex-pats in much of Asia. When our racist sentiments back in Australia don't get in the way (the Curry-bashing story was one major obstacle to our reputation in India), Australians are respected as intelligent, practical people - capable of getting things done, and good to do business with.

7. Australia does not have the capital, the markets or even the labour force to become a self-sustaining economy. Like many developed countries, we are now a service economy. Australia could not return to the tariff-driven manufacturing economy of the post-war era even if we tried. Back in the 50s, Australia relied on British and American investment, such as Vestys in agriculture and Ford and GMH in heavy manufacturing. The British and American economies have since changed direction. Britain integrated its economy with Europe. The US abandoned its gold reserves, floated the US dollar and lost its terms of trade with the rest of the world. Manufacturing has now shifted to East Asia. Without importing most of our goods, exporting most of our crops and mineral resources, and without importing much of our skilled labour, Australia would be an economic basket case.

These are basic economic facts. Australia has never been economically self-sufficient and has always relied on immigration. The only way you can counter these facts is by using lies.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:21pm
STOP THE BOATS.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:25pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:30am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
Why is Islam a wholly cow?



Like, an entire one?


No just one piece or an udder...

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:27pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:
People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.


Most importantly, they insist on telling porkies. Homo and the Mechanic are two posters who systematically use fibs to propagate their exclusive, elitist agenda. It's an agenda that's totally against Australia's interests. Their vision for Australia is backward, insular and shut-off. It's a vision that would lead directly to the poverty experienced by South Africans during the economic sanctions of the Apartheid years.

Not only do they tell porkies about their vision, they avoid all discussion of its social and economic consequences. They are completely blind to this. Their fear and hostility creates denial of the most basic economic realities, such as:

1. Australia's immigration has led directly to economic growth. We've had 24 years of growth due to immigration. Immigration creates jobs in housing construction, education and other services, such as health, retail and food. These sectors are Australia's biggest employers.

2. Globalization and tariff reduction has led directly to massive price cuts. Goods such as clothing, electronics and building supplies have come down by over 100% since the 1980s in real terms. Financial deregulation has led to more capital entering Australia, and remember, the Australian economy is driven by foreign investment. With the exception of Kerry Packer and a few high-flyers in the 1980s, Australia has always been driven by foreign investment.

3. Without immigration, the economy would spiral into long-term, generational recession. Australia has an ageing population. If we didn't import doctors and nurses and IT consultants and all the rest, the cost of these services would spike.

4. While the number one source of migrants to Australia is still Great Britain, we can't sustain an immigration program without non-European migrants. Europe also has an ageing population. While the European economy stays strong, less people choose to migrate. The White Australia Policy was discontinued in the 1970s, when the post-war European economy had all but recovered from WWII and was no longer shedding migrants. Australia was forced to turn to Asia to continue to "populate or perish".

5. Migrants, and in particular, refugees, make excellent workers and citizens. They do the jobs no one else wants - hence 711s staffed almost solely with Indian and Asian students. Those in the process of applying for visas are far less likely to commit crimes and have their visa applications rejected. Crime committed by refugees is statistically low.

6. Australians, on the whole, see themselves as global citizens. We love travelling. It's almost a right of passage for kids to do a gap year travelling and living overseas. We provide the world with major talent in business, academia and entertainment. Rupert Murdoch, Germaine Greer and Russell Crowe are just a few names known around the world. Australians - and Australian businesses - are all over Asia and the developing world. Despite our small population, Australians are on a par with British and American ex-pats in much of Asia. When our racist sentiments back in Australia don't get in the way (the Curry-bashing story was one major obstacle to our reputation in India), Australians are respected as intelligent, practical people - capable of getting things done, and good to do business with.

7. Australia does not have the capital, the markets or even the labour force to become a self-sustaining economy. Like many developed countries, we are now a service economy. Australia could not return to the tariff-driven manufacturing economy of the post-war era even if we tried. Back in the 50s, Australia relied on British and American investment, such as Vestys in agriculture and Ford and GMH in heavy manufacturing. The British and American economies have since changed direction. Britain integrated its economy with Europe. The US abandoned its gold reserves, floated the US dollar and lost its terms of trade with the rest of the world. Manufacturing has now shifted to East Asia. Without importing most of our goods, exporting most of our crops and mineral resources, and without importing much of our skilled labour, Australia would be an economic basket case.

These are basic economic facts. Australia has never been economically self-sufficient and has always relied on immigration. The only way you can counter these facts is by using lies.


10/10

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 11:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
I know Anne.

She's a top sheila.

I wish she could pass a law to deport The Mechanic.


Would you like 18c expanded to include religion Greg?


I would like The Mechanic deported.

He's a traitor.


;D ;D

That's rich coming from you.  ::)


No it's not.

I love my country, and I want to protect it as much as I can.

People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.

We don't want traitors like that here.


;D That's a real joke Peccar ....

we're importing that very type of person from the less civilised & primitive countries & cultures you say they should go to.

Such a contradiction ey? 

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:33pm

Quote:
Grin That's a real joke Peccar ....

we're importing that very type of person from the less civilised & primitive countries & cultures you say they should go to.

Such a contradiction ey?


Sprint, the Mechanic, Herbie, Bogey, Sore End, poor Cods - we imported them all.

Their own arguments on immigration are a contradiction.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:59am:
And are they traitors?



yep ... anyone cheering trump banning of Australian politicians is a traitor to this country.


How about you ask that Politician where his loyalties lay?

And I bet that Australia, his constituents run a poor second & third to his ideology.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:44pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 11:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:49am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
AND so it begins...


Quote:
Australia's first female Muslim MP wants to change 18C race laws to include religion - so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam

Australia's first female federal Muslim MP Anne Aly wants racial discrimination laws broadened so it is illegal to insult followers of Islam.
The Egyptian-born politician's call comes only days after a motion was passed in Canada calling on the federal government to 'condemn Islamophobia'.
While Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to remove the words 'insult', 'offend' and 'humiliate' from section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Labor wants to go the opposite way.



this course of action by a leftie  is symptomatic of why the leftie is part of the problem , not part of the solution.

"attempt to insult someone" is seen as a problem??

but is it??

are people really that unsure of themselves, that ungrounded in core confidence that they need "universal approval" to "maintain state".

sure an insult might sting and someone being mean to you isnt pleasant but thats just life. life is harsh.  and until you accept that life is pretty harsh and completely unfair, youre screwed.

the point is what do you do about it.

and this is where lefties simply go down the slippery slope to mediocrity and follow the path of least resistance to making people a failure.

because when you feel pain and identify with it and let the environment determine your mental state...you go down.

and when you feel pain and use it as the emotional juice to effect change and propel you into an upward spiral...you go up.


when someone is mean to you , when you see a rich guy...its just so easy to be a victim or be envious and if you do, you have let the environment run your state and you will inevitably have a state crash.

but if you can harness pain to use it as a lesson in growth,
if you can look at a rich successful happy guy and study his success...the progress you can make is unlimited.

its a harsh world
we all want to move up
you cant move up without building massive resilience.
you cant build muscle without going to the gym and feeling pain
you cant build a business without the fear and ambiguity and chaos of solving problems.

if you think everyone has to be nice to you for you to "cope", you are screwed.

you need to have just that little bit of anger to fuel a response to take action to go up.

you see this in the great sports captains when their team is losing. they get a bit mad, they use that anger to focus and they move up. 

you dont stay angry like that angry old grandpa who is always angry but you dont sit in the locker room at 1/2 time, when you are down, and get all butt hurt and start blaming the ref. you draw on core confidence, resilience and determination to make it happen and you enjoy the journey for the journey itself.  this is the way of the superior man and the leftie needs to stop always putting people on the path top mediocrity


The only person to be prosecuted under 18C was Andrew Bolt. He didn't just call a few Boongs some bad names, he used both his column and TV show to target specific Aboriginal people with the hope of ending their careers, and he used lies to do so.

So, sure. If Andrew Bolt, or any other shock jock or Tele columnist, were to use their position to lie about members of the Muslim community, I'd be quite happy for a vehicle like 18C being used to shut them down or force them to apologise.

We're not talking about one-off insults here, we're talking about protecting people from those in power - the Alan Joneses, the Andrew Bolts, the Ray Hadleys.

The media, and particularly the print media, has no laws to prevent the sort of targeted and sustained disinformation campaigns people like Bolt carry out.



bullshyte ..... he wrote an article regarding just what makes someone Aboriginal today.

His emphasis being on the number of people claiming to be Aboriginal/black/blackfella in Australia today that are "white".

He used the cliche ... White is the new black".

It wasn't about ending anyones career .. he was intention was exposing the hypocrisy of it.

A bunch of disgruntled white people who identify as Aboriginals over everything else took exception to it ...

said he was being ignorant/racist etc etc and sued him under 18c .... using taxpayers money.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:45pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:33pm:

Quote:
Grin That's a real joke Peccar ....

we're importing that very type of person from the less civilised & primitive countries & cultures you say they should go to.

Such a contradiction ey?


Sprint, the Mechanic, Herbie, Bogey, Sore End, poor Cods - we imported them all.

Their own arguments on immigration are a contradiction.


And so is Peccars statement.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:45pm
double up

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:48pm
Why hasn't she been stoned to death for not wearing a hair covering thing.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:58pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 10:49am:
People like The Mechanic, Mr Hammer, et al. are destroying Australia, and we'd be much better off without them here.

If they insist on condoning and perpetuating fear, hatred, division, and death, let them move to a less civilised country that will accommodate their primitive needs.


Most importantly, they insist on telling porkies. Homo and the Mechanic are two posters who systematically use fibs to propagate their exclusive, elitist agenda. It's an agenda that's totally against Australia's interests. Their vision for Australia is backward, insular and shut-off. It's a vision that would lead directly to the poverty experienced by South Africans during the economic sanctions of the Apartheid years.

Not only do they tell porkies about their vision, they avoid all discussion of its social and economic consequences. They are completely blind to this. Their fear and hostility creates denial of the most basic economic realities, such as:

1. Australia's immigration has led directly to economic growth. We've had 24 years of growth due to immigration. Immigration creates jobs in housing construction, education and other services, such as health, retail and food.

2. Globalization and tariff reduction has led directly to massive price cuts. Goods such as clothing, electronics and building supplies have come down by over 100% since the 1980s in real terms. Financial deregulation has led to more capital entering Australia, and remember, the Australian economy is driven by foreign investment.

3. Without immigration, the economy would spiral into long-term, generational recession. Australia has an ageing population. If we didn't import doctors and nurses and IT consultants and many other specialist professions, the cost of these services would spike. If we didn't import these skills, many areas of the economy would be unsustainable. Australians would need to travel overseas for treatment, as many do for cosmetic surgery or dental services, for example, to countries like Thailand and India.

4. While the number one source of migrants to Australia is still Great Britain, we can't sustain an immigration program without non-European migrants. Europe also has an ageing population. While the European economy stays strong, less people choose to migrate. The White Australia Policy was discontinued in the 1970s, when the post-war European economy had all but recovered from WWII and was no longer shedding migrants.

5. Migrants, and in particular, refugees, make excellent workers and citizens. They do the jobs no one else wants - hence 711s staffed almost solely with Indian and Asian students. Those in the process of applying for visas are far less likely to commit crimes and have their visa applications rejected.

6. Australians, on the whole, see themselves as global citizens. We love travelling. It's almost a right of passage for kids to do a gap year travelling and living overseas. We provide the world with major talent in business, academia and entertainment. Rupert Murdoch, Germaine Greer and Russell Crowe are just a few names known around the world. Australians - and Australian businesses - are all over Asia and the developing world. Despite our small population, Australians are on a par with British and American ex-pats in much of Asia. When our racist sentiments back in Australia don't get in the way (the Curry-bashing story was one major obstacle to our reputation in India), Australians are respected as intelligent, practical people - capable of getting things done, and good to do business with.

7. Australia does not have the capital, the markets or even the labour force to become a self-sustaining economy. Like many developed countries, we are now a service economy. Australia could not return to the tariff-driven manufacturing economy of the post-war era even if we tried. Back in the 50s, Australia relied on British and American investment, such as Vestys in agriculture and Ford and GMH in heavy manufacturing. The British and American economies have since changed direction. Britain integrated its economy with Europe. The US abandoned its gold reserves, floated the US dollar and lost its terms of trade with the rest of the world. Manufacturing has now shifted to East Asia. Without importing most of our goods, exporting most of our crops and mineral resources, and without importing much of our skilled labour, Australia would be an economic basket case.

These are basic economic facts. Australia has never been economically self-sufficient and has always relied on immigration. The only way you can counter these facts is by using lies.
The health of a country is just about economics dear. The division multiculturalism brings is hurting us socially. I doubt you'd have the guts to crap on about me if those Muslim cretins succeeded in bringing a plane down. And have you ever wondered who's benefitting most from multiculturalism- the rich. The lower classes  are competing for jobs. It sure isn't helping them. Drongo!

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gordon on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.



Don't forget to accuse the navy of sinking the ones that get close, otherwise your conspiracy theory is just hysterical horse sh1t.



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Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm
Muslim immigration is providing many jobs in the security industry, its all about jobs and growth.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:14pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:44pm:
bullshyte ..... he wrote an article regarding just what makes someone Aboriginal today.

His emphasis being on the number of people claiming to be Aboriginal/black/blackfella in Australia today that are "white".

He used the cliche ... White is the new black".

It wasn't about ending anyones career .. he was intention was exposing the hypocrisy of it.

A bunch of disgruntled white people who identify as Aboriginals over everything else took exception to it ...

said he was being ignorant/racist etc etc and sued him under 18c .... using taxpayers money.


Bolt did not write one article, Gonads, he targeted specific people for months worth of columns. One of his arguments was that they did not represent Aborigines because of the colour of their skin, and yes, he argued that they should not be employed in the positions they're in.

Targeting individuals is standard Bolt and Divine practice. They both called for Gillian Trigg's sacking. They regularly call for ABC employees to be sacked. Anyone who they disagree with on Q&A? Sack. They use their pulpits to get revenge on people that, in most cases, they don't even know. It's most ironic that they use freedom of speech as a defense for trying to silence freedom of speech.

Bolt's case was the only test of 18C in court. The reason 18C has been taken up by various people - almost solely in the Liberal Party - is their support of the Murdoch press, which was also convicted of breeching 18C.

The print media has no checks and balances. Columnists like Bolt and Divine can slur as many people and tell as many fibs as they want. There is no way to prevent this. The only recompense for their victims is through civil litigation - thousands spent on lawyers and years in court.

18C is not about preventing equals abusing each other, it's about protecting people who can't defend themselves unless they have hundreds of thousands of spare dollars to take corporate giants like News Ltd to court.

Understand that the consequences of mass media harassment is hardly just a few hurt feelings. The Leveson enquiry in Britain uncovered thousands of cases of people sacked, bankrupted and even suicided because of the lies and vilification they received from the Murdoch press.

For Bolt and News Ltd, repealing 18C is merely symbolic. They see it as vindication for all the "suffering" they've received through their conviction. For the Libs, repealing 18C is about appeasing Bolt and Rupert - a bit of quid pro quo for all the support.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:17pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Muslim immigration is providing many jobs in the security industry, its all about jobs and growth.


What do you call a Muslim security guard?

Ahmed (Armed).

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.
That's the  thing I don't understand about you do-gooders Pecca. You don't understand  humans. Us humans are by far the most dangerous thing you'll ever encounter in you life. Woman see a spider and carry on yet walk into a nightclub with pissed and drugged up deadsh its and think they are in nirvana. Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views. It's a dangerous policy. It was dangerous before multiculturalism. Multiculturalism isn't going to make Australia less dangerous and it isn't.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:20pm
::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Muslim immigration is providing many jobs in the security industry, its all about jobs and growth.


What do you call a Muslim security guard?

Ahmed (Armed).

That's not funny kamel, this is very serious stuff.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:26pm
Did you hear about the dumb lebbo terrorist?

He burnt his lips trying to blow up a car.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:26pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Muslim immigration is providing many jobs in the security industry, its all about jobs and growth.


What do you call a Muslim security guard?

Ahmed (Armed).



and dangerous



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:27pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?



He's be the only one on here that does that, i swear. FD certainly wouldn't do it. Not even a little bit.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:28pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?


Ah.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?


Ah.

Did you just cum Gronk

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


Man, you and jayden smith are like deep thnkers
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Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans.


I agree. Your posts here are almost solely about putting humans against other humans. Your purpose here is to stir up hate and animosity.

I would never support having you silenced though. I would, however, prefer to see you spread your agenda through facts rather than porkies pies.

But that's just me, dear.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?




I just love fkking with insane conspiracy nuts and you have that sh1t in spades.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


Well then, stop doing what you're doing.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans.


I agree. Your posts here are almost solely about putting humans against other humans. Your purpose here is to stir up hate and animosity.

I would never support having you silenced though. I would, however, prefer to see you spread your agenda through facts rather than porkies pies.

But that's just me, dear.
So am I the blame for people wanting to bring plane loads of Australians down you silly old slag.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


No it's not. People like you are just making yourselves miserable .. and everyone very unhappy.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?




I just love fkking with insane conspiracy nuts and you have that sh1t in spades. 


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

Your ignorance is astounding.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


Well then, stop doing what you're doing.
It's you leftists who are destroying the country.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


No it's not. People like you are just making yourselves miserable .. and everyone very unhappy.
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans.


I agree. Your posts here are almost solely about putting humans against other humans. Your purpose here is to stir up hate and animosity.

I would never support having you silenced though. I would, however, prefer to see you spread your agenda through facts rather than porkies pies.

But that's just me, dear.
So am I the blame for people wanting to bring plane loads of Australians down you silly old slag.


Of course not, Homo. What would ever make you think that?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


Well then, stop doing what you're doing.
It's you leftists who are destroying the country.


No.

It's people like you.

As Karnal accurately pointed out, your purpose here is to stir up hate and animosity.

You are the problem.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


No it's not. People like you are just making yourselves miserable .. and everyone very unhappy.
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


Why would you want to make people unhappy? Because you are?

Have you thought a more simple solution would be to stop being so unhappy?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


No it's not. People like you are just making yourselves miserable .. and everyone very unhappy.
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


Why would you want to make people unhappy? Because you are?

Have you thought a more simple solution would be to stop being so unhappy?


Too late.

He's addicted to unhappiness, misery, and hatred.

What a "life".


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Why fill the country up with peoples with many opposing views.


Strange. I could have sworn you defended people having opposing views in another post.

Perhaps you were just defending people having your own views, eh?
You certainly don't like my opposing views on immigration babe. When I talk opposing views I'm  talking about views that put humans against other humans. Religion is one. Uncontrolled and fanatical religious belief is by far the most dangerous mental problem a human can have. And we are bringing them here!!!!WTF.


Hammer. You're obsessed. You went off about the multiculturalism in Harry Potter for crying out loud.

Look, you're not happy. My best advice to you is to adapt. You'll feel so much better.
I'm worried for our country. It's getting worse.


No it's not. People like you are just making yourselves miserable .. and everyone very unhappy.
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


Why would you want to make people unhappy? Because you are?

Have you thought a more simple solution would be to stop being so unhappy?


Too late.

He's addicted to unhappiness, misery, and hatred.

What a "life".
You have no idea Pecca. I'm a popular person with many family and friends. But I have political hates. I'm sorry. I'll never back down and many aussies are getting on board. This isn't going away.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.
who's that?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:54pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.
who's that?



You, Hammer. Remember? Only yesterday?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?



I suggest you make friends with them. They won't blow you up if they consider you a friend.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.
who's that?
Oh yeah. I'll stand by that 100%.


The main reason I hate J K Rowlings is because she created this olde England in a splendiferous land called Hogwarts full of people named Harry and Hermoine and Hagrid. The school was an olde castle with it's own steam train and everyone drinks tea.  Good olde J K cashed in on merry olde England with all her grand traditions. Then the cant went and sprinkled her patriotic little visage with curry-munchers and muzzos as If to say they were indispensable in the whole scheme of things. It's as if J K wanted to defecate on Anglo-Saxon history but she couldn't bear to turn her back on the poor saps who would swallow her s.h.i.t and make her a billionaire. Just another virtue-signaller like Clooney, De Niro, Streep and all the other mediocre a.r.s.e clowns.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:01pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?



I suggest you make friends with them. They won't blow you up if they consider you a friend.
How do you make friends with people who won't let you marry their daughters because I'm Christian??

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:02pm
Karnal:


Quote:
Bolt's case was the only test of 18C in court.


Wasn't that case involving those Uni students taken to Court and dismissed?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?



I suggest you make friends with them. They won't blow you up if they consider you a friend.
How do you make friends with people who won't let you marry their daughters because I'm Christian??


Quite easily. You find common ground. Soon incompatible  old country beliefs get forgotten, either by the one who remembered to start with or by the refreshing of generations.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?




I just love fkking with insane conspiracy nuts and you have that sh1t in spades. 


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

Your ignorance is astounding.



But you are stating that nefarious activities orchestrated by the government and this is being covered up.

You are a fkking lunatic, you know that right?

Lots and lots of military and police stuff is not reported to the great unwashed, and for very good reason. So why are you going full tin foil hat mode on this minor activity?




Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:08pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?



I suggest you make friends with them. They won't blow you up if they consider you a friend.
How do you make friends with people who won't let you marry their daughters because I'm Christian??


Quite easily. You find common ground. Soon incompatible  old country beliefs get forgotten, either by the one who remembered to start with or by the refreshing of generations.
Soon incompatible  old country beliefs get forgotten?????


Your  evidence for that??

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:10pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
I'm making you unhappy. WTF!! I hope I am.


You see?
If it makes you unhappy that I'm against an insane policy like multiculturalism then that's your problem Mothra.



But you're not against it for very good reasons, Hammer. This is what people are trying to explain to you.

You've gone and worked yourself up into a state. You're really being very silly.
Because I told you. Humans are the most dangerous things on earth. Any you lefties are filling up the country with people who are strangers. It's insane. There will be only one outcome. You do know that don't you?



I suggest you make friends with them. They won't blow you up if they consider you a friend.
How do you make friends with people who won't let you marry their daughters because I'm Christian??


Quite easily. You find common ground. Soon incompatible  old country beliefs get forgotten, either by the one who remembered to start with or by the refreshing of generations.



For every group except muslims this is true.


Muslims can get an Australian born male and within a few days have him killing whitey just to score some fkken 'strange' in a place that doesn't exist.

There is no getting around that sh1t unless you ban all fairy-tale bullsh1t religions, which in and of itself is a great idea. The fkken fundy loons will leave pretty quick leaving only the sane people behind in a anti-religious paradise.





Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:13pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?




I just love fkking with insane conspiracy nuts and you have that sh1t in spades. 


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They openly admit to this.

Your ignorance is astounding.



But you are stating that nefarious activities orchestrated by the government and this is being covered up.


I'm stating that they don't report on the boats anymore.

This is a fact.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:13pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.
peacefully ???

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:13pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.
peacefully ???



Absolutely. Tell your gang .. be nice. See if it catches on.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:59pm:
WE DID STOP THE BOATS!


Yes, they've stopped reporting the boats.


You can't report what doesn't happen, that would be fake news.


How do you know it's not happening?



I get it, if they weren't there at the time it didn't happen how would they know for sure.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They don't report on boats anymore.

They openly admit to this.

What part of that don't you understand?




I just love fkking with insane conspiracy nuts and you have that sh1t in spades. 


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said "we do not comment on operational matters".

They openly admit to this.

Your ignorance is astounding.



But you are stating that nefarious activities orchestrated by the government and this is being covered up.


I'm stating that they don't report on the boats anymore.

This is a fact.



Is that because there are no or very few boats and they are being turned back as per government policy boats?


Or the navy is shooting them out of the water, as you posted elsewhere ?






Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.

Islam-Is-The-Problem.jpg (68 KB | 4 )

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:28pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.



you cant blame others for making you unhappy.
you have to draw state from within.
you have a responsibility to master your own emotions and not let the environment make you happy or unhappy.

read this
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Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:28pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.



you cant blame others for making you unhappy.
you have to draw state from within.
you have a responsibility to master your own emotions and not let the environment make you happy or unhappy.

read this
x10-happier_jpg_pagespeed_ic_YCEgs06ezf_002.jpg (14 KB | 13 )

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by aquascoot on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm
so good, you should read it twice .
it will help qwell the negative self talk that afflicts you

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:31pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?
because their jerks are dangerous.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:28pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
I'm still quite astonished that he hates JK Rowlings for being a race traitor.

I really struggle with that reasoning.

Can we call it reasoning?

Whatever it is, a lot of people have it and there making everyone unhappy.



you cant blame others for making you unhappy.
you have to draw state from within.
you have a responsibility to master your own emotions and not let the environment make you happy or unhappy.

read this


Just for once, would you actually understand what i'm saying? Just once?

Thrad isn't that long. Have a read through and see if you can work it out.

If you're still stuck after that, just shoot me a question, 'k?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?
because their jerks are dangerous.


No more than any other jerks.

Have you tried being nice to them? Do you think if everyone was nice to them and stopped representing the men as bloodthirsty, fanatical terrorists and the women as either victims, or mindless and brainwashed ... and told some nice stories about them .. and put non-jerks on telly more (and were nicer to them than were being to the ones that are on the telly now) ... y'know, stuff like that  .... that there may well be less jerks to start with?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:42pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.

Yeah good one, do I have to buy a prayer mat or are they provided.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:43pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Yeah, raving lunatic terrorists are a bit further up the deadsh1t ladder than just being a jerk, being massively over representative in the most dangerous criminal population of a country is a lot more than being a a bit annoying every now and again.


It is better to not.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:46pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Yeah, raving lunatic terrorists are a bit further up the deadsh1t ladder than just being a jerk ...


Once again you're assuming that all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims.

However, that couldn't be further from the truth.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:51pm
Tell Annne Ally for f....k off to the Middle East and practice her Politics there

Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution


You can't have Freedom of Speech then a list of exclusions, you either have it or you don't

If she doesn't like that then rack off!!!

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:52pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Yeah, raving lunatic terrorists are a bit further up the deadsh1t ladder than just being a jerk, being massively over representative in the most dangerous criminal population of a country is a lot more than being a a bit annoying every now and again.


It is better to not.


Went to hospital today to pick up the ex - bloke in the bed opposite was talking about his son in the Army etc.. bloke next bed along said Mussos who want to play pretend jihad against the nation that gave them succour need to grow up....

They could always go back home where their mates will give them succour by drilling them a few times with an AK-47.

But I forgot - Muss-lims in Oz are oppressed as a group and are victimised on a daily basis - so it must be all 'our' fault - if you can work out who 'our' is......

Maybe all that Muss-lim oppression just goes unreported in the media etc....  try out this phrase - Most Muss-lim Oppression goes unreported!! ;D

I'd say that last comment pretty much sums it up...

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:55pm

red baron wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Tell Annne Ally for f....k off to the Middle East and practice her Politics there

Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution


You can't have Freedom of Speech then a list of exclusions, you either have it or you don't

If she doesn't like that then rack off!!!


What section?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Yeah, raving lunatic terrorists are a bit further up the deadsh1t ladder than just being a jerk ...


Once again you're assuming that all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims.

However, that couldn't be further from the truth.



Most terrorists are governments, but at this time in Oz, the Muss-lim ME disenchanted community make up 100% of attempted terrorists..... citing world-wide figures, same as how oppressed women are  ::), is a nonsense, as I've said many times - we live HERE....

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:57pm
Mosques harbor criminals but how often do they say anything, the code of silence is rife amongst this bizarre religion, I liken them to the hells angels, untouchables.
At least the angels have ethics, they wouldn't blow up teenage girls, Manchester.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:06pm

red baron wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution


You might want to check again.

You're thinking of the US Constitution, and specifically the First Amendment which states: “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?



Yeah, raving lunatic terrorists are a bit further up the deadsh1t ladder than just being a jerk ...


Once again you're assuming that all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims.

However, that couldn't be further from the truth.



Not assumed, by me

Not said, by me

Not implied, by me



Try that when I actually make that mistake you dolt.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:13pm
Is she a true believer that Iss-lam is THE most feminist religion?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:39pm
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It  - Volataire


Anne Ally M.P. needs to put down the Koran for a few minutes and Google Voltaire perhaps she might step out of the bounds of her Burqa and enlighten herself as to just what Voltaire was talking about



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Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:02pm:
Karnal:


Quote:
Bolt's case was the only test of 18C in court.


Wasn't that case involving those Uni students taken to Court and dismissed?


I didn't think that one went to court. I thought it stayed with the Human Rights Commission.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:48pm

red baron wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:39pm:
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It  - Volataire


Anne Ally M.P. needs to put down the Koran for a few minutes and Google Voltaire perhaps she might step out of the bounds of her Burqa and enlighten herself as to just what Voltaire was talking about


Ban them.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:52pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:02pm:
Karnal:


Quote:
Bolt's case was the only test of 18C in court.


Wasn't that case involving those Uni students taken to Court and dismissed?


I didn't think that one went to court. I thought it stayed with the Human Rights Commission.


Aha.  Yes....maybe.  I'll check later.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:52pm

red baron wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 4:39pm:
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It  - Volataire


Anne Ally M.P. needs to put down the Koran for a few minutes and Google Voltaire perhaps she might step out of the bounds of her Burqa and enlighten herself as to just what Voltaire was talking about


Mr Baron.  What Section of the Constitution?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by John Smith on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:30pm

red baron wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution


there's no such thing.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:46pm
Yes naysayers you are correct, however the Federal Court has held that there is 'an implied right to Freedom of Speech'  Read on:-

This suggests a capacity for interaction to occur between the rights of the public afforded under the principle of open justice and the implied constitutional freedom of communication on government and HOW THE IMPLIED CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF COMMUNICATION ON GOVERNMENT AND POLITICAL MATTER MAY REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRINCIPLES OF OPEN JUSTICE

Judicial Conference of Australia Colloquium 2007 – Sydney
Sunday 7 October 2007


Steven Rares*
     

It is just over 10 years since former New Zealand Prime Minister David Lange made his most significant contribution to Australian law – allowing the High Court of Australia to expound that the Constitution contained an implication of freedom of communication on government and political matters.  This enables the people to exercise free and informed choice as electors (Lange v Australian Broadcasting Corporation ).  But, does it affect the principles, or operation, of open justice?  What can the public, and in particular, the media now see of any documentary material used in court?  With more and more written and electronic material being used in court proceedings, what rights do persons who are not parties to the case being heard have to access this material?


1.      Today I want to discuss two concepts which are fundamental to the way we are governed.  The first is the principle of open justice.  That principle requires that justice should be administered in public, transparently and openly, and that every member of society has the right not only to see what takes place in open court but to make fair and accurate reports of it, to discuss it and to comment on it.
2.      The second principle has been the subject of more recent exposition but is rooted in similarly fundamental values.  It is the freedom from legislative or executive control of citizens’ rights to discuss matters concerning government and politics.  In 1997 the High Court of Australia identified this as an implication in the Constitution of the Commonwealth which constrained the making of laws or the use of executive power to inhibit citizens from being able to participate in the parliamentary democracy and mechanism for changing the Constitution by referendum for which the Constitution itself provided.  If there are to be elections or referenda, the electors must be able to discuss freely matters of government and politics which fall within the spectrum of issues about which they may wish to cast their vote.
3.      Courts, too, are institutions of government in a democratic society.  Each of the three arms of government, the Parliament, the executive and the judiciary, has a role in making and changing the laws under which citizens live.  The Constitution defuses the power of each arm of government by distributing various responsibilities and functions among them.
4.      The Parliament is given the power to enact legislation which, subject to its constitutional competence, determines public and private legal rights, obligations, duties and discretions.
5.      The executive has the traditional function of enforcing the law although it can exercise powers delegated to it by the legislature to make regulations within limits.  Moreover, the executive carries out tasks confided to it by laws made by the Parliament.  These include the exercise of powers that affect citizens and non-citizens in their ordinary lives and activities such as the granting of licenses, permissions, concessions, pensions, the collection of revenues and the prosecution and confinement of offenders.
6.      The judicial branch has the function of declaring the law and applying it to the facts of particular cases.  In a constitutional democracy such as ours, it is the role of the courts to determine whether, ultimately, the Parliament or the executive have acted within the constitutional bounds of their powers.  But judicial decisions can have political consequences.  One only has to remember the controversy that emerged from the decision of the High Court in Mabo v State of Queensland (No 2)  to appreciate that by declaring the law judicial decisions can have profound political impacts.  Political and governmental reactions follow from decisions of the courts.  Talk back radio and the tabloid press comment daily on the adequacy, or more usually the perceived inadequacy, of sentences imposed by magistrates and judges.  Frequently, they assert the need for ‘… the government to do something about it’.
7.      Members of the community are entitled to agitate to change the law declared by the courts through the legal means afforded them by the Constitution.  They may do this not only by discussing matters of government and politics and seeking to influence elections or politicians, but also by promoting a referendum to vest in or remove from the Parliament of the Commonwealth some legislative power under the mechanism in s 128 of the Constitution.  Part of the debate on such a question may involve discussion about the judicial reasoning process which led to various judges determining the law which is sought to be changed, modified or addressed by a referendum. There is an open question whether discussion about the judicial reasoning process itself is protected by the implied constitutional freedom, as the diversity of views expressed by McHugh and Kirby JJ in APLA Ltd v Legal Services Commissioner (NSW)  shows .
8.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:09pm
None of that has SFA to do with freedom of speech.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Unforgiven on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:13pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:50am:
I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed


I will donate towards Valkie's ticket out of Australia.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:15pm
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant

But apparently you don't agree with landmark cases that are outlined further in the document I published. Regrettably it is a long worded script however just Google it and read away to your heart's content Aussie

The source in in the header


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:16pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:50am:
I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed


I will donate towards Valkie's ticket out of Australia.
I'd certainly give you some money so you'd piss off back to India.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:16pm
;D

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:16pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:50am:
I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed


I will donate towards Valkie's ticket out of Australia.

I will donate towards the repair of your space ship.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:17pm

Quote:
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant


Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it.  I bet you can't.

;)


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Unforgiven on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:19pm
The Red Baron has converted to Islam. He is starting to preach open justice. Public trials instead of secret Kangaroo courts with conviction by guilty plea induced by threats by plod and prosecutors against the detainee, the detainees family and relatives.

No credible evidence ever comes out of these Kangaroo courts adjudicated by Skippy Rozencwajg who believes that evidence is a waste of the court's time.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Rhino on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:37pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Quote:
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant


Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it.  I bet you can't.

;)
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution.  It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:38pm

rhino wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Quote:
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant


Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it.  I bet you can't.

;)
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution.  It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression


Where is the reference to freedom of speech?

:)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Rhino on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:42pm
You missed the word "implied".  ;)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:52pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:02pm:
Karnal:


Quote:
Bolt's case was the only test of 18C in court.


Wasn't that case involving those Uni students taken to Court and dismissed?


Yes ... deemed frivolous & the complainant was ordered to pay costs ......

which she hasn't.

But I bet tax payers will in the end.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:57pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Yes for 150 years but not too many of the ones that have been bought in since the late 70's & early to mid 80's.

They were made welcome & they haven't repaid anyone with kindness.

You're bloody delusional.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:00pm

rhino wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:42pm:
You missed the word "implied".  ;)


No, I saw it.  Were the words which immediately followed ~ freedom of speech?

::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:01pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Yes for 150 years but not too many of the ones that have been bought in since the late 70's & early to mid 80's.

They were made welcome & they haven't repaid anyone with kindness.

You're bloody delusional.



Of course they have! Most Muslims have integrated beautifully. Valued members of our community.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:02pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Except the current, future, potential and actual terrorists that seem to be in numbers vastly greater than is acceptable.


Or the ones that absolutely hate Australia and Australian because they are violent scumbags



It is easy enough to tell, one form the other, tell them mohamed is a filthy child rapists and the peaceful ones will smile and thank you for your accurate analysis of their religion and the rest will behave as expected.


It is easier to not.


And yet, i've met jerks among all sorts of people. Why don't Muslims get to have some jerks too .. without hysterical overreaction to it?


Some jerks?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just when I thought it wasn't possible ... you excel yourself ....

with another classic piece of understatement.

Some ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:03pm
Some further reading for my learned friend Aussie:

[4]             Australian Law Reform Commission, Secrecy Laws and Open Government in Australia, Report No 112 (2009).
‹ 4. Freedom of Speech

4. Freedom of Speech

The common law
4.13     Freedom of speech has been characterised as one of the ‘fundamental values protected by the common law’.[5] Heydon J has observed that ‘there are many common law rights of free speech’ in the sense that the common law recognises a ‘negative theory of rights’ under which rights are marked out by ‘gaps in the criminal law’.[6]
4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:
The common law has always attached a high value to the freedom and particularly in relation to the expression of concerns about government or political matters … The common law and the freedoms it encompasses have a constitutional dimension. It has been referred to in this Court as ‘the ultimate constitutional foundation in Australia’.[7]
4.15     In relation to defamation, the common law defence of qualified privilege has been extended on the basis of the constitutionally protected freedom of communication, discussed below. In Lange v Australian Broadcasting Corporation (Lange), the High Court determined that, as the development of the common law in Australia cannot run counter to constitutional imperatives, the common law rules of qualified privilege should properly reflect the requirements of ss 7, 24, 64, 128 and related sections of the Australian Constitution.[8]
4.16     Freedom of speech is not absolute. Even the First Amendment of the United States Constitution has been held not to protect all speech: it does not, for example, protect obscene publications or speech inciting imminent lawless action.[9] Australian common law has long recognised limits to free speech, for example, in relation to the criminal law of incitement and conspiracy, and in obscenity and sedition law.
[5]             Nationwide News v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1, 31.
[6]             Attorney-General (SA) v Corporation of the City of Adelaide (2013) 249 CLR 1, [145] (Heydon J). See Ch 2.
[7]             Monis v The Queen (2013) 249 CLR 92, [60] (French CJ).
[8]             Lange v Australian Broadcasting Corporation (1997) 189 CLR 520, 566, 571.
[9]             Brandenburg v Ohio 395 US 444 (1969).



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:05pm
But wait...there's more:

4. Freedom of Speech

Summary
4.1        Freedom of speech has been described as ‘the freedom par excellence; for without it, no other freedom could survive’.[1] Freedom of speech is ‘closely linked to other fundamental freedoms which reflect … what it is to be human: freedoms of religion, thought, and conscience’.[2]
4.2        This chapter discusses the source and rationale of the common law right of freedom of speech; how this right is protected from statutory encroachment; and when laws that interfere with freedom of speech may be considered justified, including by reference to the concept of proportionality.
4.3        Free speech and free expression are understood to be integral aspects of a person’s right of self-development and fulfilment. The freedom is intrinsically important, and also serves a number of broad objectives:
First, it promotes the self-fulfilment of individuals in society. Secondly, in the famous words of Holmes J (echoing John Stuart Mill), ‘the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market’. Thirdly, freedom of speech is the lifeblood of democracy. The free flow of information and ideas informs political debate. It is a safety valve: people are more ready to accept decisions that go against them if they can in principle seek to influence them. It acts as a brake on the abuse of power by public officials. It facilitates the exposure of errors in the governance and administration of justice of the country.[3]
4.4        At the same time, it is widely recognised that freedom of speech is not absolute. In Australia, legislation prohibits, or renders unlawful, speech or expression in many different contexts. Some limitations on speech have long been recognised by the common law itself, such as obscenity and sedition, defamation, blasphemy, incitement, and passing off.
4.5        Numerous Commonwealth laws may be seen as interfering with freedom of speech and expression. There are, for example, more than 500 government secrecy provisions alone. In the area of commercial and corporate regulation, a range of intellectual property, media, broadcasting and telecommunications laws restrict the content of publications, broadcasts, advertising and other media products. In the context of workplace relations, anti-discrimination law—including the general protections provisions of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth)—prohibit certain forms of speech and expression.
4.6        Some areas identified as being of concern are:
•      various counter-terrorism offences provided under sch 1 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth) (Criminal Code) and, in particular, the offence of advocating terrorism;
•      various terrorism-related secrecy offences in the Criminal Code, Crimes Act 1914 (Cth) and Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979 (Cth) (ASIO Act) and, in particular, those relating to ‘special intelligence operations’;
•      Commonwealth secrecy offences generally, including the general secrecy offences in ss 70 and 79 of the Crimes Act; and
•      anti-discrimination law and, in particular, s 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth) (RDA).
4.7        Counter-terrorism and national security laws, including those mentioned above, should be subject to further review to ensure that the laws do not interfere unjustifiably with freedom of speech, or other rights and freedoms. Further review on this basis could be conducted by the Independent National Security Legislation Monitor (INSLM) and the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security (Intelligence Committee).
4.8        The ALRC has not established whether s 18C of the RDA has, in practice, caused unjustifiable interferences with freedom of speech. However, it appears that pt IIA of the RDA, of which s 18C forms a part, would benefit from more thorough review in relation to freedom of speech.
4.9        In particular, there are arguments that s 18C lacks sufficient precision and clarity, and unjustifiably interferes with freedom of speech by extending to speech that is reasonably likely to ‘offend’. In some respects, the provision is broader than is required under international law to prohibit the advocacy of racial hatred, broader than similar laws in other jurisdictions, and may be susceptible to constitutional challenge.
4.10     However, any such review should take place in conjunction with a more general review of anti-vilification laws. This could consider not only existing encroachments on freedom of speech, but also whether existing Commonwealth laws serve their purposes, including in discouraging the urging of violence towards targeted groups distinguished by race, religion, nationality, national or ethnic origin or political opinion. Greater harmonisation between Commonwealth, state and territory laws in this area may also be desirable.
4.11     There is also reason to review the range of legislative provisions that protect the processes of tribunals, commissions of inquiry and regulators. Some of these laws may unjustifiably interfere with freedom of speech—and may be unconstitutional—in prohibiting criticism of public officers engaged in performing public functions.
4.12     Finally, the Australian Government should give further consideration to the recommendations of the ALRC in its 2009 report on secrecy laws,[4] and to whether Commonwealth secrecy laws—including the Australian Border Force Act 2015 (Cth)—provide for proportionate limitat

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:06pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Yes for 150 years but not too many of the ones that have been bought in since the late 70's & early to mid 80's.

They were made welcome & they haven't repaid anyone with kindness.

You're bloody delusional.



Of course they have! Most Muslims have integrated beautifully. Valued members of our community.


Yes surely .... like Mohammad El-Mouelhy?

and the scum that have gone to Syria & all their supporters here in Australia.

Getting better all the time  ::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:09pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Yes for 150 years but not too many of the ones that have been bought in since the late 70's & early to mid 80's.

They were made welcome & they haven't repaid anyone with kindness.

You're bloody delusional.



Of course they have! Most Muslims have integrated beautifully. Valued members of our community.


Yes surely .... like Mohammad El-Mouelhy?

and the scum that have gone to Syria & all their supporters here in Australia.

Getting better all the time  ::)



Yep. Jerks. Every one of them. But there's not really that many. It's ok. Calm down.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:17pm
Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia.

Googling is not going to get you over the line.  There is no freedom of speech in Australia.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Rhino on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia.

Googling is not going to get you over the line.  There is no freedom of speech in Australia.

No one mentioned that except you, what was claimed was implied freedom of speech. You arent following this too well. Changing other posters statements wont get you over the line here.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by mothra on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:34pm

rhino wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia.

Googling is not going to get you over the line.  There is no freedom of speech in Australia.

No one mentioned that except you, what was claimed was implied freedom of speech. You arent following this too well. Changing other posters statements wont get you over the line here.



Really?  See Post 115 which kicked the discussion off....


Quote:
Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution


You can't have Freedom of Speech then a list of exclusions, you either have it or you don't



You are always late for the Party aren't you Rhino, always almost the bridesmaid.

;)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 5:50am:
I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed


I will donate towards Valkie's ticket out of Australia.
I'd certainly give you some money so you'd piss off back to India.


And moi?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by freediver on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Quote:
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant


Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it.  I bet you can't.

;)
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution.  It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression


Where is the reference to freedom of speech?

:)


It is in the post you quoted Aussie.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:11pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.


True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:19pm

freediver wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Quote:
If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant


Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it.  I bet you can't.

;)
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution.  It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression


Where is the reference to freedom of speech?

:)


It is in the post you quoted Aussie.


Highlight it for me Effendi...the words...freedom of speech.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Valkie on Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:03pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.


again the apologists try to blame anyone other than the violent retarded CULT that breeds these violent young men.

EVERY muzzo is a potential terrorist.

SO Called moderate muzzos openly carry placards calling for murder, beheading and worse in the name of their CULT.

What exactly do you think these Moderates would do if they managed to take over.

The majority of muzzos are peaceful and integrate nicely?

Only if you mean live off welfare, engage in criminal activities and behave badly.

Civilization and the islamic CULT do not, cannot and will never mix.

They are diametrically opposed to each other.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm
This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:


Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.



Karnal is a jerk who is into playing soldier, they're murdering filth. You are talking about violent rapists and mass murderers and if you can't tell the difference your a fkken idiot.

And their mass murderers and rapists vastly out weigh their small numbers, out of a population of 5 million non-muslims NSW has 4 people dangerous enough to warrant Super-max. Where as muslims only numbering 260 000 produce 32 people so dangerous that they need to be locked up in Super-max and their numbers are growing.

So if anything you are under reacting, but apologist will tend to do that won't they?


They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children.  >:( >:(



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:08pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.


again the apologists try to blame anyone other than the violent retarded CULT that breeds these violent young men.


Actually, you're the apologist.

You want to shift the blame to religion ("CULT").

I blame the violent young men.

It's about time you did the same.




Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:13pm
The Terrorist problem is a universal problem experienced in recent times by Western Countries, namely because the I.S.I.S. Cult has declared a Jihad against the West

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:13pm

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm:
This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:


Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law



They can change and disappear at the stroke of a pen.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:16pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:
They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. 


Could a religion make you believe those fantasies?



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:28pm

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm:
This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:


Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law


100% of the Law of any "Westminster" Country is based on common law which has been largely eroded in Australia by Statute Law. 

The common law principle of freedom of speech is limited to communications concerning government and political matters.  There is no absolute, unlimited, unrestricted freedom of speech.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:
They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. 


Could a religion make you believe those fantasies?



If I was a religious idiot, I have no doubt. But I have never been prone to gullibility, even as a child.



We just need to make laws that keep religious idiots under some sort of control. ALL relgious idiots

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:42pm
Yes we are governed by Statutes and it is from the reading I have done, a very grey area where various Judgements contradict each other

I  agree we have nothing like the American Constitutions Free of Speech  guarantees and more is the pity

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:43pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:13pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm:
This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:


Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law



They can change and disappear at the stroke of a pen.


That's right, son. A stroke of a pen.

After you get the two main parties to put constitutional change to their executives, vote for it at their national conferences, put the referendum question to the House of Reps, negotiate with senators to vote for it in the senate, pass it, put the question to the Australian electorate at the next election, campaign on it, and have a majority of Australians vote in the affirmative to take freedom of communication out of the constitution.

Easy.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:45pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:
They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. 


Could a religion make you believe those fantasies?



If I was a religious idiot, I have no doubt. But I have never been prone to gullibility, even as a child.



We just need to make laws that keep religious idiots under some sort of control. ALL relgious idiots


So, it's the individual who's to blame - not the "Cult".


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:47pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.



Karnal is a jerk who is into playing soldier, they're murdering filth. You are talking about violent rapists and mass murderers and if you can't tell the difference your a fkken idiot.

And their mass murderers and rapists vastly out weigh their small numbers, out of a population of 5 million non-muslims NSW has 4 people dangerous enough to warrant Super-max. Where as muslims only numbering 260 000 produce 32 people so dangerous that they need to be locked up in Super-max and their numbers are growing.

So if anything you are under reacting, but apologist will tend to do that won't they?


They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children.  >:( >:(


As you can see, Big Hole doesn't like polishing my medals.

It's an acquired taste, I guess.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:42pm:
Yes we are governed by Statutes and it is from the reading I have done, a very grey area where various Judgements contradict each other

I  agree we have nothing like the American Constitutions Free of Speech  guarantees and more is the pity


Not true.  The commentary of others (as posted by you) is deliberately murkily evasive to suggest that the limited restricted and recognised freedom is in fact freedom of speech when it is not.

Do not confuse commentary with the actual judgements.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:13pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm:
This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14     The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:


Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law



They can change and disappear at the stroke of a pen.


That's right, son. A stroke of a pen.

After you get the two main parties to put constitutional change to their executives, vote for it at their national conferences, put the referendum question to the House of Reps, negotiate with senators to vote for it in the senate, pass it, put the question to the Australian electorate at the next election, campaign on it, and have a majority of Australians vote in the affirmative to take freedom of communication out of the constitution.

Easy.



First up common law is presided over by a judge and not parliament and evolves from their rulings

Second the passing of a statute by the government required the parliament to pass it and it s a done deal

Third what you are talking about has to do the the constitution which doesn't a have a have real lot of rights, about 3 or 4 from memory and only apply in the context of the commonwealth and not very impressive. Ohh and general freedom of speech as said previously, NOT covered by the constitution.


But at least you had a go hey?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Secret Wars on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:57pm
Hehehe, why do I get the impression if it was a devout Christian MP advocating that on behalf of Christians the luvvie response would be a lot different. 

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2017 at 4:17pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Third what you are talking about has to do the the constitution which doesn't a have a have real lot of rights, about 3 or 4 from memory and only apply in the context of the commonwealth and not very impressive. Ohh and general freedom of speech as said previously, NOT covered by the constitution.


But at least you had a go hey?  ;D ;D ;D


Actually, you're right. A good post.

Freedom of speech is merely an implied right in Australia, as held by the High Court in 1992: Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v Commonwealth.

Suck on that one, advocates of Freeeeeedom.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Frank on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:
They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. 


Could a religion make you believe those fantasies?



If I was a religious idiot, I have no doubt. But I have never been prone to gullibility, even as a child.



We just need to make laws that keep religious idiots under some sort of control. ALL relgious idiots


So, it's the individual who's to blame - not the "Cult".



The Cults IS the individuals.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Frank on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 4:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Third what you are talking about has to do the the constitution which doesn't a have a have real lot of rights, about 3 or 4 from memory and only apply in the context of the commonwealth and not very impressive. Ohh and general freedom of speech as said previously, NOT covered by the constitution.


But at least you had a go hey?  ;D ;D ;D


Actually, you're right. A good post.

Freedom of speech is merely an implied right in Australia, as held by the High Court in 1992: Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v Commonwealth.

Suck on that one, advocates of Freeeeeedom.



Thank you gimp, YOU suck on it.

Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.







Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:08pm

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:06pm:
They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. 


Could a religion make you believe those fantasies?



If I was a religious idiot, I have no doubt. But I have never been prone to gullibility, even as a child.



We just need to make laws that keep religious idiots under some sort of control. ALL relgious idiots


So, it's the individual who's to blame - not the "Cult".



The Cults IS the individuals.


Apologist.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.


I agree, old chap - a belief we share with our Muslim brothers and sisters, no?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Valkie on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.


I agree, old chap - a belief we share with our Muslim brothers and sisters, no?


Not even close.

Muzzos are devil worshipers.
Their CULT is based, founded and taught as a violent, barbaric evil fantasy.

Their CULT leader and founder was a sociopath, murderer, self confessed pedophile liar who was obviously retarded to say the things he said and did.

The low IQ followers, believe everything stated in this book of toilet paper and base their sick, futile and barbaric lives on the manual of hate.

The CULT knows it needs low IQ, violent people to man its ranks, so they solicit criminals in gaol to further their brutal, barbaric CULT agenda.

This CULT is a CULT of evil, of the devil,
A CULT that creates nothing but trouble wherever it spreads and infects.

We need to be rid of this deseased CULT
And any who protect, sympathise or support it.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:56pm

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 4:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Third what you are talking about has to do the the constitution which doesn't a have a have real lot of rights, about 3 or 4 from memory and only apply in the context of the commonwealth and not very impressive. Ohh and general freedom of speech as said previously, NOT covered by the constitution.


But at least you had a go hey?  ;D ;D ;D


Actually, you're right. A good post.

Freedom of speech is merely an implied right in Australia, as held by the High Court in 1992: Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v Commonwealth.

Suck on that one, advocates of Freeeeeedom.



Thank you gimp, YOU suck on it.

Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Soren, the truth finally reveals itself in your words.  Deep at heart, you're just another Christian bigot who hates all other religions.   Tsk, tsk, makes listening to you, even more pointless now.   ::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:58pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.


I agree, old chap - a belief we share with our Muslim brothers and sisters, no?


Not even close.

Muzzos are devil worshipers.
Their CULT is based, founded and taught as a violent, barbaric evil fantasy.

Their CULT leader and founder was a sociopath, murderer, self confessed pedophile liar who was obviously retarded to say the things he said and did.

The low IQ followers, believe everything stated in this book of toilet paper and base their sick, futile and barbaric lives on the manual of hate.

The CULT knows it needs low IQ, violent people to man its ranks, so they solicit criminals in gaol to further their brutal, barbaric CULT agenda.

This CULT is a CULT of evil, of the devil,
A CULT that creates nothing but trouble wherever it spreads and infects.

We need to be rid of this deseased CULT
And any who protect, sympathise or support it.




Move along, folks, move along.  Vulkie has just embarrassed himself again with his open display of Islamophobia.   I wonder how many Muslims he's ever encountered in his sheltered existence, deep in his mother's basement?   Tsk, tsk, and he claims to be an adult as well.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Frank on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 4:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Third what you are talking about has to do the the constitution which doesn't a have a have real lot of rights, about 3 or 4 from memory and only apply in the context of the commonwealth and not very impressive. Ohh and general freedom of speech as said previously, NOT covered by the constitution.


But at least you had a go hey?  ;D ;D ;D


Actually, you're right. A good post.

Freedom of speech is merely an implied right in Australia, as held by the High Court in 1992: Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v Commonwealth.

Suck on that one, advocates of Freeeeeedom.



Thank you gimp, YOU suck on it.

Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Soren, the truth finally reveals itself in your words.  Deep at heart, you're just another Christian bigot who hates all other religions.   Tsk, tsk, makes listening to you, even more pointless now.   ::)



You are very quick, unseemly hastie in fact, to suck on our gimp's (Kameel's) dick on this issue.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Frank on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:56pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Soren, the truth finally reveals itself in your words.  Deep at heart, you're just another Christian bigot who hates all other religions.   Tsk, tsk, makes listening to you, even more pointless now.   ::)

You couldn't invent a greater idiot if you tried.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Valkie on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.


I agree, old chap - a belief we share with our Muslim brothers and sisters, no?


Not even close.

Muzzos are devil worshipers.
Their CULT is based, founded and taught as a violent, barbaric evil fantasy.

Their CULT leader and founder was a sociopath, murderer, self confessed pedophile liar who was obviously retarded to say the things he said and did.

The low IQ followers, believe everything stated in this book of toilet paper and base their sick, futile and barbaric lives on the manual of hate.

The CULT knows it needs low IQ, violent people to man its ranks, so they solicit criminals in gaol to further their brutal, barbaric CULT agenda.

This CULT is a CULT of evil, of the devil,
A CULT that creates nothing but trouble wherever it spreads and infects.

We need to be rid of this deseased CULT
And any who protect, sympathise or support it.




Move along, folks, move along.  Vulkie has just embarrassed himself again with his open display of Islamophobia.   I wonder how many Muslims he's ever encountered in his sheltered existence, deep in his mother's basement?   Tsk, tsk, and he claims to be an adult as well.    ::) ::)


Not nearly as much as you with your ongoing infantile statement.

Remember, islamaphobia is a made up word.

And it implies a frear of islam, which I do not have.
I know muzzos are cowards, liars, pedophiles, murderers, who mutilate young girls genitals and murder youg rape victims.

How you can live with yourself propagating and supporting this CULT eludes me.
Are you berfit of any morals?
Do you not feel sympathy for the young girls raped and mutilated?
Have you no compassion for the people murdered in the name of the devil?

Or are you so desentisized by watching all the beheading and stoning videos that you no longer care?

Why do you hate the human race to wish this desease upon us all?

Or is it that you have no life and think that supporting this CULT may give you pleasure watching the world be destroyed because you are such a failure?

Run along silly little man?????
You have nothing, are nothing and will always be NOTHING

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:26pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Remember, islamaphobia is a made up word.


All words are made up, silly billy   ;D

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:27pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.


Absolute crap ... the hate preachers & indoctrinaters aren't red blooded young jerks ...... they are older seasoned Imams & leaders.....

it's those they indoctrinate that are young.

You want to know why they're angry? ....  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good grief ... it's called brainwashing you idiot.

It starts early & ends up with people like the current lot arrested in Sydney ... fortunately before they do something horrific.

As I inferred ..... pull your head out of your backside.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:29pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.


True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.


Sarcasm becomes you

And you think this won't end up the same ... only involving more than those 3 countries?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:08pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.



No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.


again the apologists try to blame anyone other than the violent retarded CULT that breeds these violent young men.


Actually, you're the apologist.

You want to shift the blame to religion ("CULT").

I blame the violent young men.

It's about time you did the same.


Bullshit Noddy

Violent old men started this shyte ... Imams, Ayotollahs, Muslim despots .....

they are still driving it ....

& their soldiers are the violent young men that they have brain washed/indoctrinated to hate the west.



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:45pm
Apparently she was stoned to death today, ancient  muslim tradition.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm
It doesn't help their cause when they blatantly despise the society that took them in, calling its men beer-swilling, drug shooting, techno machine bound fools with no sperm, while their own Muss-lims just think women are breeding cows as if that somehow means they are more 'manly', and when their young men go out and start trying to kill people they've never met...

You don't need to look too far to see where the real problems lie with Muslims in this country.....

Told you before - drawing comparisons with your odd Paki doctor or Malay lawyer - all decked out in the Western man's trappings and cheerfully taking the Western man's money - is not a realistic comparison with those ghetto sand nickers with their serious problems of attitude, xenophobia, and out right paranoia.

I have yet to see ONE Aussie guy insult or verbally attack a Muslim.... I've seen countless Muslims do those things to Aussie men, who are generally taken aback at such childish behaviour...

Train the Paki, Indian and Malay etc lawyers and then send them back home to help their own people rather than helping themselves to the riches of this nation.

As for those 'common' Muslims who play up - ship them out.....  a little gratitude for saving your arse from some vicious government or mad mullah or ayatollah would go a long way, too... I'll bet some of those refugees refused admission would make better citizens.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Apparently she was stoned to death today, ancient  muslim tradition.


Pack of gutless, brainless worms....

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Rhino on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:52pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:54pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:42pm:
Yes we are governed by Statutes and it is from the reading I have done, a very grey area where various Judgements contradict each other

I  agree we have nothing like the American Constitutions Free of Speech  guarantees and more is the pity


Not true.  The commentary of others (as posted by you) is deliberately murkily evasive to suggest that the limited restricted and recognised freedom is in fact freedom of speech when it is not.

Do not confuse commentary with the actual judgements.
All freedom of speech is limited, nowhere is it absolute.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by jeez on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:54pm

The Grappler wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Apparently she was stoned to death today, ancient  muslim tradition.


Pack of gutless, brainless worms....

Ancient traditions should be respected.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:58pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.


True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.


Sarcasm becomes you

And you think this won't end up the same ... only involving more than those 3 countries?


No, Gonads, I don't think ISIS will start a world war involving France and Britain.

You?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 1st, 2017 at 10:50pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:54pm:

The Grappler wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Apparently she was stoned to death today, ancient  muslim tradition.


Pack of gutless, brainless worms....

Ancient traditions should be respected.



They could put on a stoning at half time in a Canterbury Bulldogs match... that'd go down a treat...

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gordon on Aug 1st, 2017 at 10:52pm
What did I miss, who was stoned to death?

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Gnads on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:41am

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.


True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.


Sarcasm becomes you

And you think this won't end up the same ... only involving more than those 3 countries?


No, Gonads, I don't think ISIS will start a world war involving France and Britain.

You?


As I said sarcasm becomes you.

It has already involved more than 3 countries & the UK & France like us are involved.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 12:00pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 10:52pm:
What did I miss, who was stoned to death?


My Aceh mate. You should have seen him.

Obliterated.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Sprintcyclist on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 12:04pm

The Grappler wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
It doesn't help their cause when they blatantly despise the society that took them in, calling its men beer-swilling, drug shooting, techno machine bound fools with no sperm, while their own Muss-lims just think women are breeding cows as if that somehow means they are more 'manly', and when their young men go out and start trying to kill people they've never met...

You don't need to look too far to see where the real problems lie with Muslims in this country.....

Told you before - drawing comparisons with your odd Paki doctor or Malay lawyer - all decked out in the Western man's trappings and cheerfully taking the Western man's money - is not a realistic comparison with those ghetto sand nickers with their serious problems of attitude, xenophobia, and out right paranoia.

I have yet to see ONE Aussie guy insult or verbally attack a Muslim.... I've seen countless Muslims do those things to Aussie men, who are generally taken aback at such childish behaviour...

Train the Paki, Indian and Malay etc lawyers and then send them back home to help their own people rather than helping themselves to the riches of this nation.

As for those 'common' Muslims who play up - ship them out.....  a little gratitude for saving your arse from some vicious government or mad mullah or ayatollah would go a long way, too... I'll bet some of those refugees refused admission would make better citizens.



i hate muslims

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 12:20pm

The Grappler wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
I have yet to see ONE Aussie guy insult or verbally attack a Muslim....

"A Perth man who attacked a Muslim mother outside a shopping centre after she replied "happy holidays" to his "Merry Christmas" has been fined $2400."

"I was running into oncoming traffic to get away from this guy because he was threatening to punch me in the face."



The Grappler wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
... I've seen countless Muslims do those things to Aussie men, who are generally taken aback at such childish behaviour...

No need to tell fibs.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Karnal on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 12:34pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:41am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:22pm:
Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.


True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.


Sarcasm becomes you

And you think this won't end up the same ... only involving more than those 3 countries?


No, Gonads, I don't think ISIS will start a world war involving France and Britain.

You?


As I said sarcasm becomes you.

It has already involved more than 3 countries & the UK & France like us are involved.


True, Gonads, but I'm not being sarcastic. I don't think ISIS is going to start a world war.

World wars are very predictable. The current flash points are Russia in the Ukraine, illegal Chinese bases in the Pacific and North Korea.

Wars are predictable due to alliances. If Russia were to invade a NATO country, for example, Europe and the US would be obligated by the NATO treaty to defend the NATO country.

They are also predictable due to military confrontation. If a US warship or plane was to ignore a Chinese warning to stay away from an illegal island base, for example, and a ship or plane was taken down, the US and China would be forced into conflict.

There is no conflict between rival powers over ISIS. Both Russia and the US would like to see it go: Russia because ISIS threatens the Syrian Assad regime, and the US because it threatens its leaders in Iraq. ISIS also threatens stability in the Gulf, where the US support Saudi Arabia.The only conflict over ISIS is one of method, but this has been resolved since Trump abandoned the US rules of engagement in Syria.

What this means is the US now joins Russia in bombing civilian neighbourhoods.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:01pm
Anyone remember Stephen Conroy Minister for Communications,  that repulsive little twerp  in the last Federal Labor Government?

This prawn wanted to repress Freedom of Speech in the Media and Forums like this with his own version of a Star Chamber'


Thank God that one didn't get a chance to get through

We must guard our precious right to speak freely with every fibre of our being

It will be the end of times for Democracy if people like this arsehole Ally get their way
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Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Valkie on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:10pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Yet Muslims have been living amongst us peacefully for generations.

Make them welcome. They will repay you with kindness.



Yes for 150 years but not too many of the ones that have been bought in since the late 70's & early to mid 80's.

They were made welcome & they haven't repaid anyone with kindness.

You're bloody delusional.



Of course they have! Most Muslims have integrated beautifully. Valued members of our community.


Yes
I have seen ir
The largest number of criminals per group in Australia
Mass protests at each and every little thing they take offence at......which is everything
Isolationists never mixing and
The biggest bunch of welfare drainers on earth
And you can virtually guarantee that if there is a rape or murder, they are involved.

Yep
They just keep giving and giving

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:13pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:10pm:
And you can virtually guarantee that if there is a rape or murder, they are involved.


I hear ya, Valkie.

"THREE men have been found guilty of raping a teenager with a beer bottle after he passed out at an Australia Day party.

"Bailey Hayes-Gordon, Jacob Watson and Nicholas Jackson have spent the last week on trial in the Brisbane District Court after pleading not guilty to assaulting the 19-year-old man in 2015."



Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:23pm
Know what you're good at Gregg...Obscuring overwhelming facts with titbits that wouldn't add up to a hill of beans against the  reality that Muslims are the biggest threat and problem Australia has had in eons


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:25pm

red baron wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:23pm:
Know what you're good at Gregg...


Yes.

Making Islamophobes look like ignorant fools.

And if I do say so myself, I'm very good at it.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:10pm:
And you can virtually guarantee that if there is a rape or murder, they are involved.


I hear ya, Valkie.

"THREE men have been found guilty of raping a teenager with a beer bottle after he passed out at an Australia Day party.

"Bailey Hayes-Gordon, Jacob Watson and Nicholas Jackson have spent the last week on trial in the Brisbane District Court after pleading not guilty to assaulting the 19-year-old man in 2015."


"Closing statements in the murder trial of a man accused of stabbing his ex girlfriend to death has begun in the Townsville Magistrates Court, in North Queensland.

"37-year-old Dane Pilcher ... "


Muslim?




Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:10pm:
And you can virtually guarantee that if there is a rape or murder, they are involved.


I hear ya, Valkie.

"THREE men have been found guilty of raping a teenager with a beer bottle after he passed out at an Australia Day party.

"Bailey Hayes-Gordon, Jacob Watson and Nicholas Jackson have spent the last week on trial in the Brisbane District Court after pleading not guilty to assaulting the 19-year-old man in 2015."


"Closing statements in the murder trial of a man accused of stabbing his ex girlfriend to death has begun in the Townsville Magistrates Court, in North Queensland.

"37-year-old Dane Pilcher ... "


Muslim?


"The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a massacre in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded.

"It occurred mainly at the historic Port Arthur former prison colony, a popular tourist site in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia.

"It was the deadliest mass shooting in Australian history, and amongst the most notable in history."


Was Bryant a Muslim, Valkie?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 2:36pm
There you go again banging on about Port Arthur..what in the name of the wide world of sports that has to do with Terrorism as we know it here and now beats the crap out of me Leroy :D

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 2:36pm
bump

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 2:42pm

red baron wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 2:36pm:
There you go again banging on about Port Arthur..what in the name of the wide world of sports that has to do with Terrorism as we know it here and now beats the crap out of me Leroy


Valkie didn't say terrorism.

He said: "And you can virtually guarantee that if there is a rape or murder, they [Muslims] are involved".

I'm just proving him wrong (again).




Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:40pm
The words Proof and Gregg don't go together

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:46pm

red baron wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:40pm:
The words Proof and Gregg don't go together


I've shown you the proof.

The majority of mass murderers in this country are non-Muslims.

Similarly, the majority of terrorist attacks in Australia were carried out by non-Muslims.

You just can't handle the truth.

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by red baron on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:50pm
Don't label them as a bunch of murderers Gregg

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is waiting with drawn breath for your list of non Muslim Terrorists

Names please

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 7:11pm

red baron wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Don't label them as a bunch of murderers Gregg

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is waiting with drawn breath for your list of non Muslim Terrorists

Names please


I've shown you in the other thread.

As I've explained to you before, Jack van Tongeren alone has carried out more terrorist attacks than everyone else combined in this country.

And, he isn't a Muslim.

Now, just because you've never heard of him, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I know him well, because he blew up my Chinese Restaurant.

Maybe you could rattle off the names of all the Muslims who have carried out terrorist attacks in Australia, red.

I've got 3 seconds to spare.


Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 11:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:46pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:40pm:
The words Proof and Gregg don't go together


I've shown you the proof.

The majority of mass murderers in this country are non-Muslims.

Similarly, the majority of terrorist attacks in Australia were carried out by non-Muslims.

You just can't handle the truth.



So you're blaming our security services and police (some of whom are finally doing their correct job) for the lack of Muslim terrorists in Australia?  :-?  Seems more like they're chopping them off at the prayer mat before they get into jihad mode....

That works for me..... I'm too old for that kinda sh!t these days... and way out of practice...

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 11:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 7:11pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Don't label them as a bunch of murderers Gregg

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is waiting with drawn breath for your list of non Muslim Terrorists

Names please


I've shown you in the other thread.

As I've explained to you before, Jack van Tongeren alone has carried out more terrorist attacks than everyone else combined in this country.

And, he isn't a Muslim.

Now, just because you've never heard of him, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I know him well, because he blew up my Chinese Restaurant.

Maybe you could rattle off the names of all the Muslims who have carried out terrorist attacks in Australia, red.

I've got 3 seconds to spare.


Yes, Jack was an aberration in the SAS... and like that Hoddle Street d!ck, should have been handled by the military authorities for his breach of the faith, which would be a lot harsher than a prison sentence ...you can't always trust a Dutchman... some of them are crazy... but then crazy is as crazy does...

Title: Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP
Post by freediver on Aug 5th, 2017 at 12:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 6:46pm:
The majority of mass murderers in this country are non-Muslims.


Only because the Muslims are so blindingly incompetent.


Valkie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Every freedom, every right, every obligation and duty is expressed or implied or conditional, proscribed or prescribed. Nothing is absolute because nothing has an absolute unfettered agency except god. But what He wants is either mediated or is an 'act of god' - ie beyond our human ken.


I agree, old chap - a belief we share with our Muslim brothers and sisters, no?


Not even close.

Muzzos are devil worshipers.
Their CULT is based, founded and taught as a violent, barbaric evil fantasy.

Their CULT leader and founder was a sociopath, murderer, self confessed pedophile liar who was obviously retarded to say the things he said and did.

The low IQ followers, believe everything stated in this book of toilet paper and base their sick, futile and barbaric lives on the manual of hate.

The CULT knows it needs low IQ, violent people to man its ranks, so they solicit criminals in gaol to further their brutal, barbaric CULT agenda.

This CULT is a CULT of evil, of the devil,
A CULT that creates nothing but trouble wherever it spreads and infects.

We need to be rid of this deseased CULT
And any who protect, sympathise or support it.




Move along, folks, move along.  Vulkie has just embarrassed himself again with his open display of Islamophobia.   I wonder how many Muslims he's ever encountered in his sheltered existence, deep in his mother's basement?   Tsk, tsk, and he claims to be an adult as well.    ::) ::)


Not nearly as much as you with your ongoing infantile statement.

Remember, islamaphobia is a made up word.

And it implies a frear of islam, which I do not have.
I know muzzos are cowards, liars, pedophiles, murderers, who mutilate young girls genitals and murder youg rape victims.

How you can live with yourself propagating and supporting this CULT eludes me.
Are you berfit of any morals?
Do you not feel sympathy for the young girls raped and mutilated?
Have you no compassion for the people murdered in the name of the devil?

Or are you so desentisized by watching all the beheading and stoning videos that you no longer care?

Why do you hate the human race to wish this desease upon us all?

Or is it that you have no life and think that supporting this CULT may give you pleasure watching the world be destroyed because you are such a failure?

Run along silly little man?????
You have nothing, are nothing and will always be NOTHING


Brian has convinced himself that he does not have the right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions. Except western nations and Christianity of course. Isn't that right Brian?


mothra wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:31pm:
No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.


There's that vast majority again. How have they integrated? What naïve views are you projecting onto this "vast majority"? Or is this just another meaningless platitude?

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