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Message started by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm

Title: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm
The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries
Donald I. Templer

Abstract

The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.

http://donalditempler.com/assets/templer_8.pdf



Given the mean IQ is 81 highlights the problems of communication, learning ability and ability for rational reason. Bear that in mind when conversing or getting one too upset.

At a guess I'd say the mean IQ of the muslim apologist would be around 81 as well or possibly less.

So as a rule of thumb  when conversing with muslims or apologists keep it simple.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm
With all due respect, James. That's a load of crap. It couldn't be any higher than 50.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:57pm

"Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81"

Still more than James and Mr Hammer combined.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:59pm
Peccer exercising his apologist IQ of 81 or less ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:59pm
Noam Chomsky:


"Surely people differ in their biologically determined qualities. The world would be too horrible to contemplate if they did not. But discovery of a correlation between some of these qualities is of no scientific interest and of no social significance, except to racists, sexists and the like. Those who argue that there is a correlation between race and IQ and those who deny this claim are contributing to racism and other disorders, because what they are saying is based on the assumption that the answer to the question makes a difference; it does not, except to racists, sexists and the like."


Is Chomsky saying that intelligence makes no difference? But if intelligence is important, why does it not matter how it is distributed between populations?


Why doesn't the discovery of correlation between some qualities matter, scientifically or socially?



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by miketrees on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:04pm
I blame Consanguinity.

Oh yes and Muslims

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Redneck on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm
Inbreeding is the cause!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:14pm
Donald Templer. A known racialist. Widely discredited by his peers.


With Concerns about Darwinist Racialism in Mind, National Review Cleans House

"It was a conference held by a white racialist group, American Renaissance, last month in Tennessee. You can click on this link and see some of the participants. As Rich noted, Weissberg had turned up at the meeting to discuss strategies for successfully "repackaging" white nationalism. Needless to say, once someone has descended to such garbage, you can't have him around anymore.

Beyond that, Weissberg himself isn't terribly interesting -- but a look at the American Renaissance website does offer a reminder of the key role that Darwinian thinking continues to play among a fringe of racialist pseudo-conservatives.

The 2012 conference, as I said, leaned heavily on this theme. Leading the program was eugenics advocate Richard Lynn. The American Renaissance site helpfully gives us the gist of his presentation.

He briefly summarizes the field of eugenics since Francis Galton coined the term in 1883, noting that the West has now had six generations of dysgenic fertility that has led to a decline in genetic IQ of about one point per generation. Improvements in nutrition have increased tested IQ, thus masking the genetic decline, but this is a one-time environmental boost that has run its course. Eugenics is the obvious solution, but it is notoriously difficult to accomplish. If we in the West do not have the will to stop dysgenic reproduction or dysgenic immigration, Prof. Lynn predicts "the torch of civilization will pass from the Europeans to the Chinese."
There was someone called Donald Templer on "The Geographic Distribution of Intelligence: Evolution, Migration and Dysgenics." Templer specializes in "race and intelligence, and racial brain shape."
There was a French visitor, Guillaume Faye with his "charmingly accented English," praising "the biological substrate" that gives hope for "world-wide white racial consciousness."

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/04/with_concerns_a058711.html

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Honky on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:16pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.


The arab world was utterly devastated by the mongols.  Their repopulation in the last 800 years has included widespread inbreeding - this has become known as a "cultural practice" but it simply reflected necessity.  Their gene pool just doesn't have the depth to thrive otherwise. 
A lower average intelligence than other peoples who didnt face such a crisis is to be expected,  how much lower is the question.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:16pm
Do muslims read the Koran more than Christians read the bible ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Redneck on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..

Mmm Errr Dog?

No disrespect meant to who ever!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:22pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
With all due respect, James. That's a load of crap. It couldn't be any higher than 50.


Sorry James, I agree with hammer

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:25pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..


I don't believe he's ever met your wife.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Redneck on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..


I don't believe he's ever met your wife.


No not that bitch!

The one with a big fat arse and a dope for a son!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:48pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..


I don't believe he's ever met your wife.


No not that bitch!

The one with a big fat arse and a dope for a son!


He hasn't met your mother either.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Redneck on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..


I don't believe he's ever met your wife.


No not that bitch!

The one with a big fat arse and a dope for a son!


He hasn't met your mother either.


Sorry no second prizes!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:51pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Inbreeding is the cause!


Ah.

Did Mr Hammer senior breed with James' sister?


Did your dad breed with the local bitch..


I don't believe he's ever met your wife.


No not that bitch!

The one with a big fat arse and a dope for a son!


He hasn't met your mother either.


Sorry.


I'm sure he's not.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:06pm
Basically, they need to READ MORE.

Printing was banned by Islamic authorities because they believed the Koran would be dishonoured by appearing out of a machine. As a result, Arabs did not acquire printing presses until the 18th century.
http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2009/03/07/printing-banned-by-islam/

AND


Greece annually translates five times more books from English than the entire Arab world, and currently, 65 million Arab adults are illiterate. These sobering statistics are thanks to the U.N.’s first Arab Human Development Report published back in 2002 which I found in Thomas Friedman’s recent Op-Ed in the New York Times.

AND


The oil wealth is matched by social backwardness, and the only other region of the world with an income level lower than ours is sub-Saharan Africa. Productivity is decreasing, scientific research is virtually nonexistent, the region is suffering a brain drain, and illiteracy afflicts half of Arab women. The report was only diplo-matic concerning implicit criticisms of extremist Islamist movements as a cause of the culture of backwardness and absence of fertile ground for democ-racy. Interestingly, the report found that the total number of books translated into Arabic yearly is no more than 330, or one-fifth of those translated in a small country like Greece.

Indeed, the total number of books translated into Arabic during the 1,000 years since the age of Caliph Al-Ma’moun [a ninth-century Arab ruler who was a patron of cultural interaction between Arab, Persian, and Greek scholars—WPR] to this day is less than those translated in Spain in one year. The report noted that Arab rulers stay in office all their lives and create dynasties that inherit power, and the peoples are unable to institute change.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:07pm
To be clear, I don't believe in eugenics. I believe culture is the problem.

Must see TV :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEt1vc4aVKk

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm
It was nice to see mothra exercise her 81 or less with a professor google event.

Good post Gordy.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
With all due respect, James. That's a load of crap. It couldn't be any higher than 50.


Sorry James, I agree with hammer


Fair call Sprint - it is possible a kafir was accidentally slipped into the data thus raising the average.

An IQ of 50 or less would explain all the "matty"'s and "Ban Them" , "I'm Curios", "No?" posts and the inability to understand a local intelligent German Gentleman who posts in the simplest terms he can for them with great patience.

 

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:44pm
Has anyone noticed how GP always hijacks the threads he does not agree with?

Generally reducing a topical subject down to an infantile slanging match.

Personal insults generally targeting a persons sexuality or sick twisted insults.

I wonder at the obtuse maze that passes for his mind.

Sad.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm:
It was nice to see mothra exercise her 81% or less with a professor google event.

Good post Gordy.


Percent?

LOL

That's gold!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18


Hence the Apologists IQ of 81 or less. I know you know what I mean. ;)

See gregs posts if you are confused. ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18


Hence the Apologists IQ of 81% or less. I know you know what I mean. ;)


Percent?

This is too funny   ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm:
Percent?

This is too funny   Grin



like i said


John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18



:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18


Hence the Apologists IQ of 81% or less. I know you know what I mean. ;)


Percent?

This is too funny   ;D


Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that, greg you have now reached mid range for your group say an IQ of 30 - 40 .

Well Done ..

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Has anyone noticed how GP always hijacks the threads he does not agree with?

Generally reducing a topical subject down to an infantile slanging match.

Personal insults generally targeting a persons sexuality or sick twisted insults.

I wonder at the obtuse maze that passes for his mind.

Sad.


is there a rule against that? If he has to put up with crap from Islamaphonbes, they can put up with crap from him

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:50pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm:
Percent?

This is too funny   Grin



like i said


John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
ANyone who would make or support such a statement can't have an IQ above 18



:D :D :D :D :D


He thinks the score is a percentage.



Too, too funny.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm
The mean IQ of 81 for the apologist explains a lot of the simple understanding and repetitive posts both John and Greg make and explains the child like behavior that one feels when interacting with them.

In many cases the apologist has even a lower IQ .

DANG, unfortunate for you guys......

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


He said it twice!

Oh my Lord, I haven't laughed so hard for ages.

James: "I scored 81% in my IQ test"   LOL


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


No I don't expect you to get much at all. Worked like a charm though.

Gobble Gobble ;D ;D ;D

It's like shooting fish in a Barrel Peccar. Now swim for me ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


He said it twice!

Oh my Lord, I haven't laughed so hard for ages.

James: "I scored 81% in my IQ test"   LOL




IQ Isn't a percentage peccar or didn't you know that ;D .

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:56pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


Twice!  He said it twice!    ;D

Dear o dear o dear: he'll never live this one down.

"81%"    ;D



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:57pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Has anyone noticed how GP always hijacks the threads he does not agree with?

Generally reducing a topical subject down to an infantile slanging match.

Personal insults generally targeting a persons sexuality or sick twisted insults.

I wonder at the obtuse maze that passes for his mind.

Sad.



He has a low IQ he is incapable of debate.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


Twice!  He said it twice!    ;D

Dear o dear o dear: he'll never live this one down.

"81%"    ;D





Took you're long enough. ;D ;D ;D

Your slow aint ya dear ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


No I don't expect you to get much at all. Worked like a charm though.

Gobble Gobble ;D ;D ;D

It's like shooting fish in a Barrel Peccar. Now swim for me ;D


what percentage is your IQ again?  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm
Anyways as much as I enjoy stirring up apologists with low IQ's like greg and john time to get some more information in hear to explain the Low Muslim and Muslim Apologist Mean.

Swim John Swim .... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:00pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:57pm:
He has a low IQ he is incapable of debate.



yet he knows IQ isn't measured as a percentage and you don't ... what does that say about your IQ? Are we sub zero yet?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:00pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D



"81%"    LOL

And now he's gone back and edited the two posts in a futile attempt to cover his tracks.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D



"81%"    LOL

And now he's gone back and edited the two posts in a futile attempt to cover his tracks.




No I did it to watch you post that , want me to change them back after all I am dealing with your IQ of 30% ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm
With John's IQ of 20" I really don't know how he gets around. ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:00pm:
And now he's gone back and edited the two posts in a futile attempt to cover his tracks.




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Actually I am impressed I was waiting to see who would pick that,

..


you expect anyone to believe that?  :D :D :D


No I don't expect you to get much at all. Worked like a charm though.

Gobble Gobble ;D ;D ;D

It's like shooting fish in a Barrel Peccar. Now swim for me ;D


what percentage is your IQ again?  :D :D :D :D



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm:
With John's IQ of 20" I really don't know how he gets around. ;D


you must have run out of fingers

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm:
Anyways as much as I enjoy stirring up apologists with low IQ's like greg and john time to get some more information in hear to explain the Low Muslim and Muslim Apologist Mean.

Swim John Swim .... ;D ;D ;D



In "hear"?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:05pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm:
Anyways as much as I enjoy stirring up apologists with low IQ's like greg and john time to get some more information in hear to explain the Low Muslim and Muslim Apologist Mean.

Swim John Swim .... ;D ;D ;D



In "hear"?




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
In "hear"?






you'd best quit while you're behind James, you're making Muslims look like outright geniuses  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm:
With John's IQ of 20" I really don't know how he gets around. ;D


you must have run out of fingers



Sorry john, my bad I meant to say Johns IQ of 20mm. The weener IQ ;D ... Still against mothra you are styling so its not all bad.

Always nice to see mothra exercise such a hi IQ the extravagance is amazing. ;D

Greg you better do your hair , mother mothra's here for you darl. ;)




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
In "hear"?






you'd best quit while you're behind James, you're making Muslims look like outright geniuses  ;D ;D ;D


Is that as funny as this?

Productivity is decreasing, scientific research is virtually nonexistent, the region is suffering a brain drain, and illiteracy afflicts half of Arab women

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:11pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
In "hear"?






you'd best quit while you're behind James, you're making Muslims look like outright geniuses  ;D ;D ;D


You really are slow aren't you.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:12pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm:
Greg you better do your hair


No chance of that happening.

I can't stop laughing, Mr "81% hear".


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:12pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
You really are slow aren't you.



and still I look like a genius when compared to you. ..... what does that make you? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:13pm
https://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/muslims-suffer-insanity-low-iq-recessive-disorders-from-1400-years-inbreeding/

Biological fallout from 50 generations of first cousin marriages

from a Lockheed employee in Saudi Arabia.

During the pilot transition program with the KV-107 and C-130 with Lockheed, we found that most Saudi pilot trainees had very limited night vision, even on the brightest of moonlit nights.

Their training retention rate was minimal including maintenance personnel. Some had dim memories and had to be constantly reminded of things that were told to them the day before. An American, British or any other western instructor is burned out pretty quick. It actually took Muslim C-130 pilots years before they could fly in the dark safely and then would be reluctant to leave the lights of a city.

Ask any Marine, Air Force or Army guy who’s been trying to train Iraqis, and especially Afghans. Islam is not only a religion; it’s a way of life all the way around. Yet another set of revealing facts about Muslim beliefs and traditions and ways of life. 1400 years of inbreeding.

Nikolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist who has done extensive research into a little-known problem in the Muslim world: the disastrous results of Muslim inbreeding brought about by the marriage of first cousins. This practice, which has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses, was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world.

This practice of inbreeding will never go away in the Muslim world, since Muhammad is the ultimate example and authority on all matters, including marriage.

The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture may well have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health. According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%. Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

The numbers are equally devastating in other important Muslim countries: 67% in Saudi Arabia, 64% in Jordan, and Kuwait, 63% in Sudan, 60% in Iraq, and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders. While Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.

The risks of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis, spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher, and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher. Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.

Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of consanguineous marriages lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies. The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as "retarded," increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages. (Similar effects were seen in the Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time.)

In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army. Sennels says, "The ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world." He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.

In the last 1,200 years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year. Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. "A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies."

Only nine Muslims have ever won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the "Peace Prize." According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research measured by articles per million inhabitants.

In Denmark, Sennels’ native country, Muslim children are grossly over represented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background. Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of schoolchildren with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. The immigrant dropout rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.

Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness. The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of patients in Denmark’s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background. The U.S. is not immune. According to Sennels, "One study based on 300,000 Americans shows that the majority of Muslims in the USA have a lower income, are less educated, and have worse jobs than the population as a whole."

Sennels concludes: There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims. Because Muslims’ religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. This has produced overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences.

Bottom line: Islam is not simply a benign and morally equivalent alternative to the Judeo-Christian tradition. As Sennels points out, the first and biggest victims of Islam are Muslims.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:14pm
Simple Judeo-Christian compassion for Muslims and a common-sense desire to protect Western civilization from the ravages of Islam dictate a vigorous opposition to the spread of this dark and dangerous ideology.

These stark realities must be taken into account when we establish public polices dealing with immigration from Muslim countries and the building of mosques.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
In "hear"?






you'd best quit while you're behind James, you're making Muslims look like outright geniuses  ;D ;D ;D


Is that as funny as this?

Productivity is decreasing, scientific research is virtually nonexistent, the region is suffering a brain drain, and illiteracy afflicts half of Arab women


The women are in the worst position of all being dominated by low IQ men. Then they breed. It just forces the IQ down and down.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:17pm
Greeeeeeg mothra wants you on PM, again.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:18pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:13pm:
Biological fallout from 50 generations of first cousin marriages



from the looks of it, I'd say James ancestors have been marrying first cousins since he birth of Christ. :o

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:19pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


The URL is at the top EINSTEIN. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you with your low apologist IQ.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:20pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


He's trying to flood the thread with text so that the page flips over, thus covering up his "81% hear" debacle.

Well, I'll be back in the morning to remind everyone what happened.

Time to go for dinner & drinks in my multicultural suburb now, though.

Have a pleasant evening everyone.




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


The URL is at the top EINSTEIN. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you with your low apologist IQ.




Good of you to add it AFTER you were called on it.

You're learning James. You just went up a whole percentage point.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


He's trying to flood the thread with text so that the page flips over, thus covering up his "81% hear" debacle.

Well, I'll be back in the morning to remind everyone what happened.

Time to go for dinner & drinks in my multicultural suburb now, though.

Have a pleasant evening everyone.



Bon Appetit

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:22pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D


Gold!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


He's trying to flood the thread with text so that the page flips over, thus covering up his "81% hear" debacle.

Well, I'll be back in the morning to remind everyone what happened.

Time to go for dinner & drinks in my multicultural suburb now, though.

Have a pleasant evening everyone.




Have a good one.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:23pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D



you've put up nothing that warrants debate .... if you think anyone with half a brain would pay an iota of attention to that clap trap you've been plagerising, you're wrong.

But you probably would have realised that on your own if your IQ had been higher. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D


Gold!




It's  a gift that keeps giving.  ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:25pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D


Gold!




It's  a gift that keeps giving.  ;D


and he has the audacity to comment on the IQ of others  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:25pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


The URL is at the top EINSTEIN. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you with your low apologist IQ.




Good of you to add it AFTER you were called on it.

You're learning James. You just went up a whole percentage point.



FAIL!

Nice try no cigar bubblehead.

On your bike THE POST WAS NOT EDITED at all you are a liar.

Is that all you can do run around being a fool ?

One day you will learn how to debate. I guess we might see it in our lifetime.

You better get on PM or greg will be logged out or didn't you get an invite to his multicultural party ? ;D ;D ;D

Maybe Johns more your intellect ;D ;D ;D .

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:29pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:25pm:
FAIL!

Nice try BUT no cigar bubbleheadbubble head.

On your bike, THE POST WAS NOT EDITED at all, you are a liar.

Is that all you can do, run around being a fool ?

One day you will might learn how to debate. I guess we might see it in our lifetime.

You better get on PM or gGreg will be logged out, or didn't you get an invite to his multicultural party ? Grin Grin Grin

Maybe John's more your intellect. Grin Grin Grin .


you can thank me later

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:31pm
]
Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


The URL is at the top EINSTEIN. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you with your low apologist IQ.




Good of you to add it AFTER you were called on it.

You're learning James. You just went up a whole percentage point.



FAIL!

Nice try no cigar, bubblehead.

On your bike.THE POST WAS NOT EDITED at all. You are a liar.

Is that all you can do? Run around being a fool ?

One day you will learn how to debate. I guess we might see it in our lifetime.

You better get on PM or greg will be logged out. Or didn't you get an invite to his multicultural party ? ;D ;D ;D

Maybe Johns more your intellectual equal ;D ;D ;D .



There. Free lesson in grammar. I fixed it for you.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:31pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:25pm:
FAIL!

Nice try BUT no cigar bubbleheadbubble head.

On your bike, THE POST WAS NOT EDITED at all, you are a liar.

Is that all you can do, run around being a fool ?

One day you will might learn how to debate. I guess we might see it in our lifetime.

You better get on PM or gGreg will be logged out, or didn't you get an invite to his multicultural party ? Grin Grin Grin

Maybe John's more your intellect. Grin Grin Grin .


you can thank me later



LOL. Snap.  ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:32pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:23pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Incapable of debate John ?

Your IQ to low ? ;D



you've put up nothing that warrants debate .... if you think anyone with half a brain would pay an iota of attention to that clap trap you've been plagerising, you're wrong.

But you probably would have realised that on your own if your IQ had been higher. :D :D :D



I haven't plagiarized anything and you are right, there is nothing to debate.

Bubblehead mothra turns up and pretends I plagiarized something and you gobble it up like a good little puppy. Think for yourself for goodness sakes it makes you look weak.

You can't falter statistics. Not to mention they were right. A cursory look at your posts in here indicates that you have a low IQ. Deal with champ.

You come, you make a fool of yourself then you snigger like you are brighter than mothra. Mate and yet you still are incapable of debate just like that imbecile greg and his evil bride mothra.

If your not here to debate why are you here then john ?

Enlighten us all....

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:35pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Ooooh lookie. Mr percentage is plagiarising again.

Perhaps he didn't "hear" us when we tried to educate him about that?


The URL is at the top EINSTEIN. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you with your low apologist IQ.




Good of you to add it AFTER you were called on it.

You're learning James. You just went up a whole percentage point.



FAIL!

Nice try no cigar, bubblehead.

On your bike.THE POST WAS NOT EDITED at all. You are a liar.

Is that all you can do? Run around being a fool ?

One day you will learn how to debate. I guess we might see it in our lifetime.

You better get on PM or greg will be logged out. Or didn't you get an invite to his multicultural party ? ;D ;D ;D

Maybe Johns more your intellectual equal ;D ;D ;D .



There. Free lesson in grammar. I fixed it for you.
[/quote]


For the record.

Incorrect Bubblehead, no wonder you come across as the village idiot any time you post.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:38pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
I haven't plagiarized anything and you are right, there is nothing to debate.

Bubblehead Bubble head mMothra turns up and pretends I plagiarized something and you gobble it up like a good little puppy. Think for yourself for goodness sakes. iIt makes you look weak.

You can't falter statistics.  Not to mention they were right. A cursory look at your posts in here indicates that you have a low IQ. Deal with it champ.

You come, you make a fool of yourself, then you snigger like you are brighter than mMothra. Mate and yet you still are incapable of debate just like that imbecile gGreg and his evil bride mMothra.

If you're not here to debate, why are you here then jJohn ?

Enlighten us all....please




You probably shouldn't have picked a topic on IQ's :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:39pm
GRAVE FACTS:Islamic Doctrine

The Muslim Islamic Practice of Marrying "Close Cousins - Often Sisters" and Results"

GRAVE FACT:
The practice of marrying close relatives, even first cousins and often sisters - was sanctioned by Muhammad himself, and has been their practice for 50 generations (over 1,400 years) in the Muslim world.

Becasue of the large Islamic Immigrant population in Denmark, a Danish Doctor is perhaps the first westerner who has researched this little-known problem in the Muslim world and published the disastrous consequences of Muslim inbreeding.

The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture seems to have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health.


GRAVE FACTS:
The doctor reveals, approximately half of all Muslims in the world are inbred.

> In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%.

> Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and

> in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

> It is about 67% in Saudi Arabia,

> 64% in Jordan and Kuwait,

> 63% in Sudan,

> 60% in Iraq,

> and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.


GRAVE FACT:
According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders.


GRAVE FACT:
Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher.


GRAVE FACT:
Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.


GRAVE FACT:
Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of close-relative marriages:

> lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that

> social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as “retarded,” increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages.

Similar effects were seen in the ancient Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time. Twenty states in the U.S. allow first cousins to marry, but first cousin marriages remain rare in America, and the problem comes with generation after generation of first cousin marriage, which flushes recessive gene malformations to the surface.


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army.


GRAVE FACT:
Sennels says that “the ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world.”


GRAVE FACT:
He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.


GRAVE FACT:
In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year.


GRAVE FACT:
Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.

Dr. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. “A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies.”


GRAVE FACT:
Only nine Muslims have every won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the “Peace Prize.”


GRAVE FACT:
According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research (measured by articles per million inhabitants).


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, Sennels’ native country, Muslim children are grossly overrepresented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background.


GRAVE FACT:
Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of school children with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system.


GRAVE FACT:
The immigrant drop-out rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.


GRAVE FACT:
Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness.


GRAVE FACT:
The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of the patients in Denmark’s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background.

The U.S. is not immune. According to Sennels, “One study based on 300,000 Americans shows that the majority of Muslims in the USA have a lower income, are less educated, and have worse jobs than the population as a whole.”


GRAVE FACT:
Sennels concludes: There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims.

Because Muslims' religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. (This has produced) overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences.


GRAVE FACT:
Bottom line: Islam is not simply a benign and morally equivalent alternative to the Judeo-Christian tradition. As Sennels points out, the first and biggest victims of Islam are Muslims.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:39pm
Simple Christian compassion for Muslims and a common-sense desire to protect Western civilization from the ravages of Islam dictate a vigorous opposition to the spread of this dark and dangerous religion. These stark realities must be taken into account when we establish public polices dealing with immigration from Muslim countries and the building of mosques in the U.S.

Let’s hope America wakes up before a blind naivete about the reality of Islam destroys what remains of our Christian culture and our domestic tranquility.

===

The Word of God FORBIDS the practice of marrying close relatives, and has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian Law of God since the days of Moses, that is 1500 years before Jesus Christ our Saviour!

This practice of inbreeding will likely never go away in the Muslim world since Muhammad is the ultimate example and authority on all matters, including marriage.

===

Information courtesy of presented from Dr. Nicolai Sennels. a Danish Doctor

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm
John if you want to keep trolling like a dickhead you will be banned. I appreciate that you're a bit of a joker and all but you do act like you have a low IQ.

If you have something to add or discuss or debate by all means but you're getting long in the tooth now.

It's not really that hard.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:42pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
John if you want to keep trolling like a dickhead you will be banned.



ohhh, I'm scared now. Especially with your IQ  :D :D :D


Good luck with that, dopey! :-*

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm
You forgot the url again.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
John if you want to keep trolling like a dickhead you will be banned.



ohhh, I'm scared now. Especially with your IQ  :D :D :D


Good luck with that, dopey! :-*


No probs have it your way Einstein.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:44pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
You forgot the url again.



The author was quoted Dopey.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
You forgot the url again.



The author was quoted you royal IDIOT.





You didn't cite your reference. A copy and paste should be able to be viewed in context, Mr. Percentage.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
You forgot the url again.




$10 says he'll add it in then come back and say it was there all along!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:46pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
You forgot the url again.




$10 says he'll add it in then come back and say it was there all along!  ;D ;D ;D



He's doing a whole lot of editing tonight. Maybe he'll go up a percentage point or two in the process?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:47pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
GRAVE FACTS:Islamic Doctrine

The Muslim Islamic Practice of Marrying "Close Cousins - Often Sisters" and Results"

GRAVE FACT:
The practice of marrying close relatives, even first cousins and often sisters - was sanctioned by Muhammad himself, and has been their practice for 50 generations (over 1,400 years) in the Muslim world.

Becasue of the large Islamic Immigrant population in Denmark, a Danish Doctor is perhaps the first westerner who has researched this little-known problem in the Muslim world and published the disastrous consequences of Muslim inbreeding.

The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture seems to have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health.


GRAVE FACTS:
The doctor reveals, approximately half of all Muslims in the world are inbred.

> In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%.

> Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and

> in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

> It is about 67% in Saudi Arabia,

> 64% in Jordan and Kuwait,

> 63% in Sudan,

> 60% in Iraq,

> and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.


GRAVE FACT:
According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders.


GRAVE FACT:
Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher.


GRAVE FACT:
Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.


GRAVE FACT:
Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of close-relative marriages:

> lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that

> social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as “retarded,” increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages.

Similar effects were seen in the ancient Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time. Twenty states in the U.S. allow first cousins to marry, but first cousin marriages remain rare in America, and the problem comes with generation after generation of first cousin marriage, which flushes recessive gene malformations to the surface.


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army.


GRAVE FACT:
Sennels says that “the ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world.”


GRAVE FACT:
He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.


GRAVE FACT:
In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year.


GRAVE FACT:
Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.

Dr. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. “A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies.”


GRAVE FACT:
Only nine Muslims have every won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the “Peace Prize.”


GRAVE FACT:
According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research (measured by articles per million inhabitants).


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, Sennels’ native country, Muslim children are grossly overrepresented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background.


GRAVE FACT:
Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of school children with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system.


GRAVE FACT:
The immigrant drop-out rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.


GRAVE FACT:
Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness.


GRAVE FACT:
The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of the patients in Denmark’s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background.


they are dirty filthy inbred intolerant violent repressive muslims.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:47pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
No probs have it your way Einstein.


let me know when to start worrying

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:48pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:47pm:
they are dirty filthy inbred intolerant violent repressive


gee ....sounds familiar

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:50pm


THE COST OF ISLAMIC INCEST



Editor’s note: Several days ago, an interview with Nicolai Sennels on Muslim inbreeding was published but taken down soon after at the request of the author, as it was decided that several themes needed to be buffered by more evidence and research. The final product ended up working best as an article by Nicolai Sennels himself, which is presented below].

By Nicolai Sennels:

A tragic phenomenon which is taking a terrible toll on everyone involved.

There is a dire phenomenon rising in Europe that is crippling entire societies and yet the continent sleeps, refusing not only to confront the destructive elephant in the room, but also to admit its very existence.

The troubling reality being referred to is the widespread practice of Muslim inbreeding and the birth defects and social ills that it spawns.

The tragic effect of the Left’s control of the boundaries of debate is that any discussion about vital issues such as these marks an individual as an “Islamophobe” and a “racist."

A person who dares to point at the pathology of inbreeding in the Muslim community is accused of whipping up hatred against Muslim people.

But all of this could not be further from the truth. To fight against inbreeding anywhere is to defend humanity and to defend innocent babies from birth defects.

Fighting against this Islamic practice stems from a pro-Muslim calling, since identifying destructive ideologies and practices in Islam enables the protection of the Muslim people from harm.

Massive inbreeding among Muslims has been going on since their prophet allowed first-cousin marriages more than 50 generations (1,400 years) ago. For many Muslims, therefore, intermarriage is regarded as being part of their religion.

In many Muslim communities, it is a source of social status to marry one’s daughter or son to his or her cousin. Intermarriage also ensures that wealth is kept within the family.

Islam’s strict authoritarianism plays a large role as well: keeping daughters and sons close gives families more power to control and decide their choices and lifestyles.
Westerners have a historical tradition of being ready to fight and die for their country.

Muslims, on the other hand, are bound together less by patriotism, but mainly by family relations and religion.
Intermarrying to protect the family and community from outside non-Islamic influence is much more important to Muslims living in a Western nation than integrating into that nation and supporting it.

Today, 70% of all Pakistanis are inbred and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30% (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 “More stillbirths among immigrants“).

A rough estimate reveals that close to half of everybody living in the Arab world is inbred.

A large percentage of the parents that are blood related come from families where intermarriage has been a tradition for generations.

A BBC investigation in Britain several years ago revealed that at least 55% of the Pakistani community in Britain was married to a first cousin.

The Times of India affirmed that “this is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders.”

The BBC’s research also discovered that while British Pakistanis accounted for just 3.4% of all births in Britain, they accounted for 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.

It is not a surprise, therefore, that, in response to this evidence, a Labour Party MP has called for a ban on first-cousin marriage.

Medical evidence shows that one of the negative consequences of inbreeding is a 100% increase in the risk of stillbirths.

One study comparing Norwegians and Pakistanis shows the risk that the child dies during labour increases by 50%. The risk of death due to autosomal recessive disorders — e.g., cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy — is 18 times higher.

Risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher. Mental health is also at risk: the probability of depression is higher in communities where consanguine marriages are also high.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:51pm

The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of mental and physical retardation and schizophrenic illness.
And then there are the findings on intelligence. Research shows that if one’s parents are cousins, intelligence goes down 10-16 IQ points. The risk of having an IQ lower than 70 (criterion for being “retarded”) increases 400% among children from cousin marriages.

An academic paper published in the Indian National Science Academy found that “the onset of various social profiles like visual fixation, social smile, sound seizures, oral expression and hand-grasping are significantly delayed among the new-born inbred babies.”

Another study found that Indian Muslim schoolboys whose parents were first cousins tested significantly lower than boys whose parents were unrelated in a non-verbal test on intelligence.

It is estimated that one third of all handicapped people in Copenhagen have a foreign background and 64% of school children in Denmark with Arabic parents are illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system.

The same study concludes that in reading ability, mathematics, and science, the pattern is the same: “The bilingual (largely Muslim) immigrants’ skills are exceedingly poor compared to their Danish classmates.”

These problems within Islam bring many detriments to Western countries. Expenses related to mentally and physically handicapped Muslim immigrants, for instance, severely drain the budgets and resources of our societies.
Denmark, for example: One third of the budget for the country’s schools is spent on children with special needs. Muslim children are grossly over-represented among these children.

More than half of all children in schools for children with mental and physical handicaps in Copenhagen are foreigners — of whom Muslims are by far the largest group. One study concludes that “foreigners inbreeding costs our municipalities millions” because of the many handicapped children and adults.

What must our role be as a humanitarian society to this rising crisis?

We know that the greatest concern among pregnant women and their husbands is for their child to be healthy.
It is not difficult to imagine the sorrow and stress among interrelated couples who are forced to marry and pressured to have children.

Is it not our duty to fight for the rights of these human beings subjected to such Barbaric and inhuman predicaments?

What is it we can do?

Denmark is a pioneering example of where to begin: In order to counter forced marriages, the country does not allow Danish citizens to marry foreigners younger than 24 years old.

It also offers non-Western immigrants up to 15,000 Euros or 20,000 Dollars to emigrate back to their countries of origin.

Immigrants who are not Danish citizens are banished from Denmark if they commit violent crimes. The state does not support families economically for having more than the country’s average amount of children.

This prevents foreigners from coming to Denmark who have plans to have a lot of children and live off the State’s child support system.

The country also denies resident permits to foreigners who are marrying their cousin in Denmark.

Right now, the country is working on a complete halt to immigration from countries that are not oriented towards Western values (mainly Muslim countries).

No more intermarriage
We must simply forbid intermarriage among first cousins. Doing so will not only help slow down all the terrible consequences of inbreeding, but also prevent Muslims who insist on practising this damaging practice from moving to our countries.

Let us keep in mind that Muslims are the first — though maybe not the biggest — victims of Islam.
As long as we know that our motivation is to help them, then our conscience is clear in the face of the Left’s accusations that we are somehow “anti-Muslim” when we show our concern about Muslim babies who are born with mental and physical defects — and about their parents who endure endless suffering and worry.

In fact, it is the Left’s callous silence on this issue (and on so many others) that exposes who is truly “anti-Muslim.”
As long as we stick to facts, have a compassionate motivation, and are still able to be brave, we can be certain that not only are we right to reach out to protect Muslim people, but that in doing so we are also protecting ourselves from destroying our own basic humanistic and Western values while struggling against anti-human and aggressive practices and ideologies.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:51pm
Is Racism Just a Form of Stupidity?
Wray Herbert

I think that a lot of us are shying away from an obvious truth, that the kind of blatant racial prejudice we are witnessing in Ferguson, Missouri, has everything to do with stupidity.

I’m talking about low intelligence, lack of mental ability, cognitive rigidity. The Ferguson racists may be a lot of other things—hateful, insecure—but let’s not sugar-coat what most fair-minded thinkers believe in their hearts: A person of intelligence cannot embrace such authoritarian and racist views.

Intelligence is a scientific concept, something scientists can measure, and have for a long time.  And interestingly, this connection between stupidity and prejudice once seemed obvious to social scientists as well. Early theorists suggested a link between low mental ability and prejudicial thinking, and gathered some strongly suggestive evidence to support that view. But there were some knotty methodological and statistical problems that hampered this early line of study, not to mention a huge wave of political correctness, and it was largely abandoned.

But not entirely. A small cadre of psychological scientists have continued over the years to explore the controversial connection between low intelligence and prejudice, and at this point they have overcome most of the methodological barricades, allowing them to rigorously analyze and answer this important societal question. Two of these researchers—Kristof Dhont of Ghent University, Belgium, and Gordon Hodson of Brock University, in Canada—have been studying the idea and synthesizing the work of others, and they summarize the fruits of this ongoing project in a forthcoming issue of the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science. The short answer is yes—there is a clear, predictable and causal link between low intelligence and prejudice, including racism.

Let’s not stop there, however. It’s important, when dealing with such a controversial topic, to get down into the evidentiary weeds a bit. One of the problems plaguing the early research was that the results were confounded by other possible causes, like financial status and class and education. That is, it could have been these things, and not intelligence per se, that led to prejudice. Scientists had trouble sorting all this out. Scientists also didn’t have longitudinal data—data gathered on the same subjects over time—so they could not address the important issue of cause and effect. Plus their study samples were not representative of the population. But scientists have over time solved these problems, and the key finding has held up: Empirical evidence has consistently linked low intelligence with prejudice.

Importantly, scientists have measured intelligence in a variety of ways, and the main conclusion always holds up. In one study of white children, for example, some were less able to see that a short wide glass holds the same amount of water as a taller skinnier glass. This ability is known as “conservation” in the jargon of the field, and it’s widely considered an important mental ability. In this study, the kids who lacked this ability also held more negative views of black children. Other researchers conducted an ambitious meta-analysis—a statistical aggregation of findings from many studies—and this also documented a link between cognitive style and ability, on the one hand, and authoritarian attitudes on the other.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:52pm
Longitudinal studies provide some of the most convincing evidence. One such study looked at general intelligence in 10- and 11-year-old kids, and then re-studied those kids as adults two decades later—and found a clear connection between low intelligence and subsequent racism and sexism. Similarly, higher intelligence in childhood has been shown to predict less racism in adulthood. These analyses strongly suggest that low intelligence actually leads to hateful attitudes later on.

This is just a sampling of the accruing evidence on this point, all of which points to another puzzling question: Why? Why would verbal ability and math skills and other cognitive assets translate, over the years, into such hateful attitudes?

Dhont and Hodson believe they have an answer to this, again one based on rigorous abundant evidence. Their theory is that right-wing ideologies attract people with lower mental abilities because they minimize the complexity of the world. Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views of society, views that preserve traditions and norms, so they are especially attractive to those who are threatened by change and want to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity. Conversely, smart people are more capable of grasping a world of nuance, fluidity and relativity.

The empirical evidence supports this link, too. Low intelligence and “low effort thinking” are strongly linked to right-wing attitudes, including authoritarianism and conservative politics. And again, there appears to be a demonstrable causal link: Studies have found, for example, that children with poor mental skills grow up to be strongly right-wing adults.

There is a final link in the chain of causality, according to Dhont and Hodson. Considerable evidence shows that conservative ideology predicts all sorts of prejudice—against ethnic and racial minorities, the disadvantaged, any outgroup. Indeed, right wingers are much more likely to see outgroups as a threat to traditional values and social order, resulting in heightened prejudice. Dhont and Hodson tested and confirmed this mediation model: Lower childhood intelligence clearly predicts right-wing ideology and attitude, which in turn predicts prejudice in adulthood.

The scientists elaborate on this idea in the Current Directions article: Intelligence and thinking determine how people assess threats in the world. Those with lower ability—reasoning skills, processing speed, and so forth—prefer simple and predictable answers, because that is what they are capable of processing. Any uncertainty is threatening, and they respond to such threats by trying to preserve what is familiar and safe, the status quo. These conservative reactions are basic and normal—they reduce anxiety—but over time they harden into more stable and pervasive world views, which include stereotypical thinking, avoidance, prejudicial attitudes and over discrimination.

The weight of evidence is hard to ignore, yet according to these scientists, it is conspicuously absent from contemporary theories of prejudice. They believe that it’s time for psychological scientists to stop ignoring the evidence—that in fact the field will benefit from open discussion of these controversial findings. The country might as well, and the events in Ferguson may well trigger that discussion.


http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-of-stupidity.html

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:52pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:51pm:
Is Racism Just a Form of Stupidity?




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:53pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
GRAVE FACTS:Islamic Doctrine

The Muslim Islamic Practice of Marrying "Close Cousins - Often Sisters" and Results"

GRAVE FACT:
The practice of marrying close relatives, even first cousins and often sisters - was sanctioned by Muhammad himself, and has been their practice for 50 generations (over 1,400 years) in the Muslim world.

Becasue of the large Islamic Immigrant population in Denmark, a Danish Doctor is perhaps the first westerner who has researched this little-known problem in the Muslim world and published the disastrous consequences of Muslim inbreeding.

The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture seems to have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health.


GRAVE FACTS:
The doctor reveals, approximately half of all Muslims in the world are inbred.

> In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%.

> Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and

> in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

> It is about 67% in Saudi Arabia,

> 64% in Jordan and Kuwait,

> 63% in Sudan,

> 60% in Iraq,

> and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.


GRAVE FACT:
According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders.


GRAVE FACT:
Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher.


GRAVE FACT:
Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.


GRAVE FACT:
Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of close-relative marriages:

> lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that

> social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies.


GRAVE FACT:
The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as “retarded,” increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages.

Similar effects were seen in the ancient Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time. Twenty states in the U.S. allow first cousins to marry, but first cousin marriages remain rare in America, and the problem comes with generation after generation of first cousin marriage, which flushes recessive gene malformations to the surface.


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army.


GRAVE FACT:
Sennels says that “the ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world.”


GRAVE FACT:
He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.


GRAVE FACT:
In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year.


GRAVE FACT:
Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.

Dr. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. “A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies.”


GRAVE FACT:
Only nine Muslims have every won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the “Peace Prize.”


GRAVE FACT:
According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research (measured by articles per million inhabitants).


GRAVE FACT:
In Denmark, Sennels’ native country, Muslim children are grossly overrepresented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background.


GRAVE FACT:
Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of school children with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system.


GRAVE FACT:
The immigrant drop-out rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.


GRAVE FACT:
Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness.


GRAVE FACT:
The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of the patients in Denmark’s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background.


they are dirty filthy inbred intolerant violent repressive muslims.


You are certainly right.

Friends of intellectual giants John Smith, Greg and Mothra.
The mind boggles.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:56pm
ahh ... you're using caps for names now James .... maybe it's not to late for you  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:59pm

At the end of the day the whole incest thing started by Mohammed was because he wanted to pork his young relatives lets face it. So the story goes, he simply made his degenerate fetish law. The sicko simply made it law.

Now generations of intellectually impaired people and families result from one man being a degenerate..Not to mention the bullshit islam makes these impaired people do.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:05pm


"LOW IQ" IS THE NEW MUSLIM TERRORIST DEFENSE

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/250925/low-iq-new-muslim-terrorist-defense-daniel-greenfield



Forget airborne PTSD or poverty. Here's a great new terrorist defense. Imran Khawaja was an ISIS Jihadist who liked guns and severed heads. Non-Muslim severed heads. (via Religion of Peace)

In one section of footage, played before a hushed court, Mr Altman said Khawaja could be seen picking up severed heads from the back of a flatbed truck and saying: 'Heads. Kuffar (non-Muslims). Disgusting.'

Khawaja, who has close ties to 'executioner' Jihadi John, faked his own death to sneak back into the UK and is now facing years behind bars.

His death was widely reported - but on the same day Khawaja was arrested by specialist counter-terrorism officers at Dover with his cousin Tahir Bhatti, 45.

Khawaja, who also had the nicknames 'Barbie,' Imz,' 'Iron, and 'Cashew,' was a senior member of terrorist group Rayat Al Taweed (The Banner of Divine Unity).

'Following his departure, during messaging with his sister over different messaging platforms, Khawaja made it clear that he was in Syria for Jihad, that this was the path he had chosen, and that he wished to die as a martyr', said Mr Altman.

Khawaja told his sister, Azmeena, that he had travelled to the Middle East 'for Allah...first.'

'He told her he was happier than he had been in the UK, which was 'Shaitan dirty (devil dirty),' Mr Altman said.

'He told her he had no time to waste; that he knew Islam and Jihad 'is my way' and he could not sit and argue with his family 'who don't practice dis deen (religion).'

He later added: 'Jihad will remain fresh and green as long as raindrops fall from the sky.'


His lawyer's defense? Stupidity.


In his defence Henry Blaxland QC said the jihadi 'poster boy' had a low IQ - the lowest 12% of the population.


--------------

Ten bucks the lawyer was a muslim.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:21pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.


;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Still not talking about races DUMB DUMB. Would you like to try again. Maybe make a fool out of yourself one more time ?

Go right ahead, all aboard.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:25pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.


;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Still not talking about races DUMB DUMB. Would you like to try again. Maybe make a fool out of yourself one more time ?

Go right ahead, all aboard.




The (cough) "study" (cough) you cited refers to Muslim majority countries. That's racism, i;m afraid.

The author of the (cough) "study" (cough) is a notable racist.




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:25pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.


;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Still not talking about races DUMB DUMB. Would you like to try again. Maybe make a fool out of yourself one more time ?

Go right ahead, all aboard.




The (cough) "study" (cough) you cited refers to Muslim majority countries. That's racism, i;m afraid.

The author of the (cough) "study" (cough) is a notable racist.




Please make another post ISLAM IS NOT A RACE nor is a COUNTRY .

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Please make another post....after all you are doing so well at your intellectual level.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:21pm:
Still not talking about races DUMB DUMB. Would you like to try again. Maybe make a fool out of yourself one more time ?




farrrk but you are an idiot!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:31pm
Islam is NOT a RACE

A Country is NOT a RACE

An ISLAMIC Country is not a RACE.

Someone tell grandma mothra please. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:33pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?



even the village idiots in Afghanistan have a higher IQ than you ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm
Grandma?  That;s the best you can do?



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:36pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
[quote author=James link=1460704746/108#108 date=1460719950]Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?[/quote


He did. Often and abundantly.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:37pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?



even the village idiots in Afghanistan have a higher IQ than you ;D ;D ;D


No surprises that you said that, they have an even higher IQ than you.

Do you have anything on topic to discuss maybe something that can show us your intellectual prowess. Maybe a debate even. Wow now there's a thought John. Are you capable ?

I think not.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:38pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:38pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
[quote author=James link=1460704746/108#108 date=1460719950]Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?[/quote


He did. Often and abundantly.



Islam is NOT a RACE

A Country is NOT a RACE

An ISLAMIC Country is not a RACE.

Shock horror mothra , let in SINK IN ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:39pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
[quote author=James link=1460704746/108#108 date=1460719950]Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?[/quote


He did. Often and abundantly.


I'm still laughing at the 81%  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:39pm
It's a mothra John Smith, Pecca John Smith or Mothra Pecca gang up boredom extravaganza. BORING!!!!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:40pm
666

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:39pm:
It's a mothra John Smith, Pecca John Smith or Mothra Pecca gang up boredom extravaganza. BORING!!!!


ohh good, you're here

James needs your help ... actually, he could do with anyone's help. He's not having a good run of it tonight

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:43pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
In "hear"?






you'd best quit while you're behind James, you're making Muslims look like outright geniuses  ;D ;D ;D


Is that as funny as this?

Productivity is decreasing, scientific research is virtually nonexistent, the region is suffering a brain drain, and illiteracy afflicts half of Arab women


You’re not racist, Gordy. Some of your best wives are Arabs, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?


I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. ;)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. Wink


true ... I didn't know IQ's were measured as a percentage  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
[quote author=James link=1460704746/108#108 date=1460719950]Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?[/quote


He did. Often and abundantly.


I'm still laughing at the 81%  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Given your intellect no surprises there john.

I am still laughing at Islam being a race.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
[quote author=James link=1460704746/108#108 date=1460719950]Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?[/quote


He did. Often and abundantly.


I'm still laughing at the 81%  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Given your intellect no surprises there john.

I am still laughing at Islam being a race.  ;D ;D ;D


Except that no one said it was.  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:31pm:
Islam is NOT a RACE

A Country is NOT a RACE

An ISLAMIC Country is not a RACE.

Someone tell grandma mothra please. ;D ;D ;D


You’re not racist, Matty. Some of your best friends have IQs of 81 or less, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:47pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. Wink


true ... I didn't know IQ's were measured as a percentage  ;D ;D ;D ;D


They aren't, the only reason you do know they are not is greg pointed it out to you ;D ;D ;D .

Islam is still not a race ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:50pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:31pm:
Islam is NOT a RACE

A Country is NOT a RACE

An ISLAMIC Country is not a RACE.

Someone tell grandma mothra please. ;D ;D ;D


You’re not racist, Matty. Some of your best friends have IQs of 81 or less, no?


Ahhh now here's a real matty and <=81 IQ to boot. Even he can work out islam is not a race mothra and john. Take note.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:50pm
Cesterete them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:51pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?


I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. ;)





I posted racist literature?

I said Muslims were a race?

Try again, Wonder Boy, You're shedding percentages fast.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:52pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm:
Except that no one said it was.  :D :D :D


Mothra did she said an Islamic Country was a race.

Nice try no cigar matey . I am still laughing at that ;D ;D ;D

So roll your eyes faster and see where they go. ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?


I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. ;)





I posted racist literature?

I said Muslims were a race?

Try again, Wonder Boy, You're shedding percentages fast.


Yes you did fruitcake. You said an Islamic country was a RACE , Wonder Tard

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:55pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.



Yep that's right mothra muslim countries NOT races ;D ;D ;D




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:58pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?


I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. ;)





I posted racist literature?

I said Muslims were a race?

Try again, Wonder Boy, You're shedding percentages fast.


Yes you did fruitcake. You said an Islamic country was a RACE , Wonder Tard

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D



No. I didn't. Focus. I said Muslim  majority countries were comprised of races.


Or are you confused because you are actually arguing that even in the West, Muslims have IQ's of 81?

That's not what the article you started this thread with says.

Poor James. You're not having a good night, are you?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:01pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.



Yep that's right mothra muslim countries NOT races ;D ;D ;D



;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Nope muslim countries are still not a Race mothra ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:03pm
Mothra on racism = You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

Yep that's right Wonder Tard Muslim countries.

Hey wait a minute, Muslims aren't a race, countries aren't a Race.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:05pm
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/?tip_bar=getStarted

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:06pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:58pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Oh john you're all upset grandma mothra made a fool of herself.

Tissue ?


did she? or did you? You realise you don't get to determine who was made a fool off, right?


I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. ;)





I posted racist literature?

I said Muslims were a race?

Try again, Wonder Boy, You're shedding percentages fast.


Yes you did fruitcake. You said an Islamic country was a RACE , Wonder Tard

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D



No. I didn't. Focus. I said Muslim  majority countries were comprised of races.


Or are you confused because you are actually arguing that even in the West, Muslims have IQ's of 81?

That's not what the article you started this thread with says.

Poor James. You're not having a good night, are you?


FOCUS ON THIS

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Bahahahahahahaha

I am having a great night.

You said "Muslim  majority countries were comprised of races" No you didn't. ;D ;D ;D

You said Muslim Countries.

Squirm all you like its all there BAHAHAHA ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:08pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:10pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:25pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
Why are you spamming this thread with off topic racism posts mothra. :D
Here's a thought for you Einstein. I bet this one stumps you. Islam is not race. Shocking I know ::)

You learn something new each day.

Do some research on the topic at hand then come back.




You're talking about Muslim countries, Wonder Boy.

That's a few percentage points off, i'm afraid.


;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Still not talking about races DUMB DUMB. Would you like to try again. Maybe make a fool out of yourself one more time ?

Go right ahead, all aboard.




The (cough) "study" (cough) you cited refers to Muslim majority countries. That's racism, i;m afraid.

The author of the (cough) "study" (cough) is a notable racist.


Now Focus that single braincell.

No thats NOT racism mothra that's a muslim majority country.

Islam is still NOT (cough) (cough) a race and a muslim majority COUNTRY is still not a RACE its a (cough) (cough) country dear.

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Nice try to use the author as an excuse too. Noted ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:11pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:12pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:14pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:14pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:11pm:


I agree your level of stupidity is astounding.

Make another post please.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:19pm
Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism'

The Huffington Post  |  By      Rebecca Searles


Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html?section=australia

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:25pm
Why are you spamming off topic  posts here ?

Are you incapable of on topic debate.

You do realize Islam is NOT a Race.

Maybe you don't.

Well you do now.

I am more than happy to help you lift your clearly low IQ level.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:32pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:14pm:


Wow all this because you made a fool of yourself.

For telling you Islam is not a RACE ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. Wink


true ... I didn't know IQ's were measured as a percentage  ;D ;D ;D ;D


They aren't, the only reason you do know they are not is greg pointed it out to you ;D ;D ;D .

Islam is still not a race ;D ;D ;D



Only one of us used percentages when referring to IQ dopey, I'll let you guess which one.  :D :D

You can hope your attempts to detract by going on about race will work for some, but as far as I'm concerned, it's semantics. In my opinion there is no difference between an racist and a Islamaphobe. ;)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:14pm:


Wow all this because you made a fool of yourself.

For telling you Islam is not a RACE ;D ;D ;D




Except i never said Islam was a race.

You're looking kinda desperate Wonder Boy.

Never mind. You probably won't remember any of this in the morning.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:36pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. Wink


true ... I didn't know IQ's were measured as a percentage  ;D ;D ;D ;D


They aren't, the only reason you do know they are not is greg pointed it out to you ;D ;D ;D .

Islam is still not a race ;D ;D ;D



Only one of us used percentages when referring to IQ dopey, I'll let you guess which one.  :D :D

You can hope your attempts to detract by going on about race will work for some, but as far as I'm concerned, it's semantics. In my opinion there is no difference between an racist and a Islamaphobe. ;)




I don't think he even understands his own OP.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:40pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm:
Only one of us used percentages when referring to IQ dopey, I'll let you guess which one.  :D :D


I am not dopy you are. If you can't take a joke then cool I never thought it would cut so deep.


John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm:
You can hope your attempts to detract by going on about race will work for some, but as far as I'm concerned, it's semantics. In my opinion there is no difference between an racist and a Islamaphobe. ;)


With your IQ level no doubt that is the case. Then of course reality makes an utter fool out of you every time.

I don't really care if you make up words.

It's your reputation as being illiterate not mine.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:42pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
I am not sure what planet you are on. Then again given your low IQ hmmm. If someone like mothra bangs on that Countries are RACES and Islam is a RACE and starts posting racist literature. Clearly one is in a position to highlight the fact she made a fool of herself. Its a simple determination made by oneself. Much like the post you just made. You made a fool of yourself yet again.

You learn something new every day dontcha john. Wink


true ... I didn't know IQ's were measured as a percentage  ;D ;D ;D ;D


They aren't, the only reason you do know they are not is greg pointed it out to you ;D ;D ;D .

Islam is still not a race ;D ;D ;D



Only one of us used percentages when referring to IQ dopey, I'll let you guess which one.  :D :D

You can hope your attempts to detract by going on about race will work for some, but as far as I'm concerned, it's semantics. In my opinion there is no difference between an racist and a Islamaphobe. ;)




I don't think he even understands his own OP.



You clearly didn't and don't. Another question why ride the coat tales of others aren't you happy making a big enough of a fool of yourself trying to portray Islam as a Race all by yourself.

This isn't the lonely thing again is it pet ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:44pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:14pm:


Wow all this because you made a fool of yourself.

For telling you Islam is not a RACE ;D ;D ;D




Except i never said Islam was a race.

You're looking kinda desperate Wonder Boy.

Never mind. You probably won't remember any of this in the morning.


You said Islamic Country was a race.

You were wrong pettle ;D ;D ;D

Islam is NOT a RACE. If you didn't mean Islam you would have said Country and guess what. Thats still NOT a race pettle.

You are a fool that keeps making a fool of itself.

Please make another post.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:47pm
You're easily confused, aren't you Wonder Boy?



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:50pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:47pm:
You're easily confused, aren't you Wonder Boy?




No just amazed at how thick and lonely you are.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:47pm:
You're easily confused, aren't you Wonder Boy?




No just amazed at how thick and lonely you are.



Does it help you to think that Wonder Boy? And that's i'm old? And having a clandestine affair with Greg?

You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about me. Stop it. You're not my type.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:40pm:
I am not dopy you are. If you can't take a joke then cool I never thought it would cut so deep.



joke? then why edit it ........... still trying i see  ;D ;D ;D


Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:40pm:
With your IQ level no doubt that is the case. Then of course reality makes an utter fool out of you every time.

I don't really care if you make up words.

It's your reputation as being illiterate not mine.


that's the way ... after looking so stupid all night, you cling to that one little glimmer of hope that you have remaining



I think you've managed to single handedly bring 'stupid' to a whole new level tonight James. It doesn't happen often, but somehow  you managed it to do it tonight. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:06pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:47pm:
You're easily confused, aren't you Wonder Boy?




No just amazed at how thick and lonely you are.



Does it help you to think that Wonder Boy? And that's i'm old? And having a clandestine affair with Greg?

You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about me. Stop it. You're not my type.


You are lonely, you sit up all night posting nonsense to who ever will have you. That's a fact nothing to do with me.

Secondly greg wouldn't have you anyways that's just banter to piss greg off when you chase him around don't take it to heart. It usually gets rid of him. Thank goodness.

I hate to tell you this but I don't think of you at all. I just put up with you like everyone else on this forum has too.

I think its bloody obvious I am not your type I am quiet younger than you for starters. Even if you were young enough to be a cougar you would be too high maintenance anyway. Probably why you're alone now.

Anyways : -

Islam is still NOT a Race
A Country is still NOT a Race
An Islamic majority Country is still NOT a Race

Get over it, name calling just makes you look even more stupid. It may turn john or greg on I guess. For me it just shows you are upset.

The way you clearly get upset over age issues indicates you are in fact elderly. That's your hang up not mine. As far as I am concerned you are a dirty old lefty man who wants to be a comic hero.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:11pm
https://memecrunch.com/meme/2250I/methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much/image.jpg?w=555&c=1

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:13pm
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56313379.jpg[

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:15pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm:
joke? then why edit it ........... still trying i see  ;D ;D ;D


For this exact reason ;D ;D ;D

To get a rise.

Clearly the post had been quoted yes.
So no point modifying it right.

(this is basic math)

So if you want to stir up a retard what do you do.
You go modify it so when he checks he chucks yet another spaz.

and here you are...chucking a spaz.

Priceless. ;D ;D ;D

No other reason.



John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm:
that's the way ... after looking so stupid all night, you cling to that one little glimmer of hope that you have remaining


Yet here you are with a pooey nappy yet again. ::)


John Smith wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm:
I think you've managed to single handedly bring 'stupid' to a whole new level tonight James. It doesn't happen often, but somehow  you managed it to do it tonight. :D :D :D


It didn't take much. Just one simple % sign and attracting mothra to post and let mother mothra take its course to bring stupid to a whole new level.

Well done I must say. ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:17pm

See all nutter mothra can do is post memes , no intellect just a google to try and make fun of someone. Any retard can do that. Right ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:18pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:11pm:
https://memecrunch.com/meme/2250I/methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much/image.jpg?w=555&c=1


Here let me fix that for you retard.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:21pm
[quote author=mothra link=1460704746/159#159 date=1460725995] https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56313379.jpg[/quote]

And I'll do this one free of charge too.





We can't have people miss out on your highly intellectual memes now can we mothra.

Please excuse me for a few minutes they are so damn funny I have to go and have a big laugh. :D


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:21pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 10:47pm:
You're easily confused, aren't you Wonder Boy?




No just amazed at how thick and lonely you are.



Does it help you to think that Wonder Boy? And that's i'm old? And having a clandestine affair with Greg?

You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about me. Stop it. You're not my type.


You are lonely, you sit up all night posting nonsense to who ever will have you. That's a fact nothing to do with me.

Secondly greg wouldn't have you anyways that's just banter to piss greg off when you chase him around don't take it to heart. It usually gets rid of him. Thank goodness.

I hate to tell you this but I don't think of you at all. I just put up with you like everyone else on this forum has too.

I think its bloody obvious I am not your type I am quiet younger than you for starters. Even if you were young enough to be a cougar you would be too high maintenance anyway. Probably why you're alone now.

Anyways : -

Islam is still NOT a Race
A Country is still NOT a Race
An Islamic majority Country is still NOT a Race

Get over it, name calling just makes you look even more stupid. It may turn john or greg on I guess. For me it just shows you are upset.

The way you clearly get upset over age issues indicates you are in fact elderly. That's your hang up not mine. As far as I am concerned you are a dirty old lefty man who wants to be a comic hero.



Good to see you "don't think of me at all", Wonder Boy .... LOL   ;D


I;ve really got up your nose, haven't i? Diddums.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:30pm

mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:21pm:
Good to see you "don't think of me at all", Wonder Boy .... LOL   ;D


Nice to see I have got so far up you nose you need to make out I think about you.

Now that's way cool.

PS. I like Wonder Boy sounds like a cool Super Hero.


mothra wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:21pm:
I;ve really got up your nose, haven't i? Diddums.


Now folks this is the part of the evening where grammar goes out the window and mothra tells you in desperation how well she has done and that you have been challenged by her. A woman and you don't like that. Then projects you are upset and yes she's up your nose with all the boogers right where she wants to be.

Memes flying hard and strong between projections.

Yes folks this is where you stare with amazement at the post shake your head rolling your eyes trying to picture exactly what is sitting at the other end.

No mothra you're not up my nose but I am certainly up yours. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:33pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:39pm

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:42pm
Anyways back on topic : -

The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries
Donald I. Templer

Abstract

The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.

http://donalditempler.com/assets/templer_8.pdf



Given the mean IQ is 81 highlights the problems of communication, learning ability and ability for rational reason. Bear that in mind when conversing or getting one too upset.

At a guess I'd say the mean IQ of the muslim apologist would be around 81 as well or possibly less.

So as a rule of thumb  when conversing with muslims or apologists keep it simple.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm
Still not thinking about me Wonder Boy? LOL  ;D


And you don't get up my nose. I think you're hilarious. Best laugh tonight that iv'e had in ages.

81% ...  ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 12:08am
Yep we all believes ya ;) . ;D ;D ;D

Never the less : -

Islam is NOT a RACE

A Country is NOT a RACE

An ISLAMIC Country is not a RACE.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 12:24am

GordyL wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Basically, they need to READ MORE.

Printing was banned by Islamic authorities because they believed the Koran would be dishonoured by appearing out of a machine. As a result, Arabs did not acquire printing presses until the 18th century.
http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2009/03/07/printing-banned-by-islam/

AND


Greece annually translates five times more books from English than the entire Arab world, and currently, 65 million Arab adults are illiterate. These sobering statistics are thanks to the U.N.’s first Arab Human Development Report published back in 2002 which I found in Thomas Friedman’s recent Op-Ed in the New York Times.

AND


The oil wealth is matched by social backwardness, and the only other region of the world with an income level lower than ours is sub-Saharan Africa. Productivity is decreasing, scientific research is virtually nonexistent, the region is suffering a brain drain, and illiteracy afflicts half of Arab women. The report was only diplo-matic concerning implicit criticisms of extremist Islamist movements as a cause of the culture of backwardness and absence of fertile ground for democ-racy. Interestingly, the report found that the total number of books translated into Arabic yearly is no more than 330, or one-fifth of those translated in a small country like Greece.

Indeed, the total number of books translated into Arabic during the 1,000 years since the age of Caliph Al-Ma’moun [a ninth-century Arab ruler who was a patron of cultural interaction between Arab, Persian, and Greek scholars—WPR] to this day is less than those translated in Spain in one year. The report noted that Arab rulers stay in office all their lives and create dynasties that inherit power, and the peoples are unable to institute change.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 1:49am
Borderline intellectual functioning

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Borderline intellectual functioning, also called borderline mental disability, is a categorization of intelligence wherein a person has below average cognitive ability (generally an IQ of 70-85),[1] but the deficit is not as severe as intellectual disability (below 70). It is sometimes called below average IQ (BAIQ). This is technically a cognitive impairment; however, this group is not sufficiently mentally disabled to be eligible for specialized services.[2]

Additionally, the DSM-IV-TR codes borderline intellectual functioning as V62.89,[3] which is generally[citation needed] not a billable code[clarification needed][citation needed], unlike the codes for mental disabilities.

During school years, individuals with borderline intellectual functioning are often "slow learners."[2] Although a large percentage of this group fails to complete high school and can often achieve only a low socioeconomic status, most adults in this group blend in with the rest of the population.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_intellectual_functioning

Having a below average cognitive ability (generally an IQ of 70-85) would explain why muslims do what islam demands of them and why they cannot understand guidance away from it.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:32am
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice


There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

Controversy ahead

The findings combine three hot-button topics.

"They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]

"The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."

Brains and bias

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]

In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.

Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)

As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:37am
A study of averages

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

Simple viewpoints

Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:47am
Muslims Aren't a RACE DUMB DUMB ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:55am
"Prejudice'.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:14am

mothra wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:55am:
"Prejudice'.


This thread has nothing to do with prejudice DUMB DUMB .

Post your off topic posts somewhere else.

We are only interested in Muslim IQ statistics here.

You know hard FACT's not loon conspiracy theories or people all upset with low iQ's like you sooking over muslims constantly.

Go make a prejudice thread instead of annoying others for once.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:23am
Borderline intellectual functioning

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Borderline intellectual functioning, also called borderline mental disability, is a categorization of intelligence wherein a person has below average cognitive ability (generally an IQ of 70-85),[1] but the deficit is not as severe as intellectual disability (below 70). It is sometimes called below average IQ (BAIQ). This is technically a cognitive impairment; however, this group is not sufficiently mentally disabled to be eligible for specialized services.[2]

Additionally, the DSM-IV-TR codes borderline intellectual functioning as V62.89,[3] which is generally[citation needed] not a billable code[clarification needed][citation needed], unlike the codes for mental disabilities.

During school years, individuals with borderline intellectual functioning are often "slow learners."[2] Although a large percentage of this group fails to complete high school and can often achieve only a low socioeconomic status, most adults in this group blend in with the rest of the population.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_intellectual_functioning

Having a below average cognitive ability (generally an IQ of 70-85) would explain why muslims do what islam demands of them and why they cannot understand guidance away from it.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:28am
Having trouble winning a debate?

Are others disproving or disputing your points?

Do you feel that you cant win?????


CHANGE THE SUBJECT.......GO OFF ON A TANGENT
or

START INSULTING PEOPLE AND START A SLANGING MATCH.

The only way to save face.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:35am

mothra wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:32am:
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

Since most Muslims are socially conservative, the thesis in the thread title seems to be confirmed from various directions.
Well done.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:05am

mothra wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:55am:
"Prejudice'.


Another measurement of a country’s contribution to science is demonstrated by the number patents issued. “The 57 Islamic countries produce negligibly few patents,” Hoodbhoy writes. “According to official statistics, Pakistan has produced only eight patents in the past 43 years.” There are 1800 universities in the 57 Muslim countries of the world; none of them were ranked in the top 500 in a study undertaken by Shanghai Jiao Tong University

https://bobblincoe.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/measuring-scientific-progress-in-the
-muslim-world%E2%80%94dr-pervez-hoodbhoy-does-the-math/

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:27am

"81%"      ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:27am:
"81%"      ;D



it's still funny the next morning

;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on Apr 16th, 2016 at 1:08pm
Inbreeding and it's associated low I.Q. is one of the many self induced symptoms of a sick evil muslim society.

We all know that islam / muslims are the absolute bottom of the social ladder.

muslims themselves know they are the dregs, but in their stupidity they believe the answer is to have islam as the only religious and political system on this earth.

So they're destined to keep going down hill.

They are aided by the idiocy of their apologists who refuse to criticize islam and get muslims to critically examine themselves and islam.

I like it, the mussies are on a very slippery downhill path, their apologists are pushing them on this downward trend.

Which will result in?

Eventually truth and muslim  / apologist imbecility will destroy islam.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2016 at 1:09pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:27am:
"81%"      ;D



it's still funny the next morning

;D ;D ;D


It certainly is.

"percent"    ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm

... wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.


The arab world was utterly devastated by the mongols.  Their repopulation in the last 800 years has included widespread inbreeding - this has become known as a "cultural practice" but it simply reflected necessity.  Their gene pool just doesn't have the depth to thrive otherwise. 
A lower average intelligence than other peoples who didnt face such a crisis is to be expected,  how much lower is the question.


The Arabs spent centuries importing millions of sex slaves from Africa. Supposedly the offspring of these sex slaves to Muslim fathers are considered Muslims themselves and should be given equal social standing (not entirely sure on this one as I get conflicting versions). Yet you don't see much evidence of this in modern Arabs.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 4:18pm

Quote:
not entirely sure on this one as I get conflicting versions


Ah.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 16th, 2016 at 4:28pm

Frank wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:59pm:
Noam Chomsky:


"Surely people differ in their biologically determined qualities. The world would be too horrible to contemplate if they did not. But discovery of a correlation between some of these qualities is of no scientific interest and of no social significance, except to racists, sexists and the like. Those who argue that there is a correlation between race and IQ and those who deny this claim are contributing to racism and other disorders, because what they are saying is based on the assumption that the answer to the question makes a difference; it does not, except to racists, sexists and the like."


Is Chomsky saying that intelligence makes no difference? But if intelligence is important, why does it not matter how it is distributed between populations?


Why doesn't the discovery of correlation between some qualities matter, scientifically or socially?

He's acknowledging the error of measurement!

To take a measurement a measuring device has to be made: thus human error and bias is forever ingrained.

Who's making the measuring device?

He is simply positing that racists are unable to distinguish between propaganda and fact implying that the racist is so influential that nothing exists without him and his stupid mother to his racist children.

..as Tom said to Nazim last night: without white people you wouldn't even have racism  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 4:44pm
Lucky muslims aren't a race but a rather a particular demographic that has a low mean IQ level that can be measured.

The cause scientifically seems more to be based on inbreeding based on historical data. This data helps us understand their intellectual level for effective communication and why they have trouble understanding more complex issues and learning. Not to mention being easily led into committing suicide, killing other people they do not know and being the most rabid racists on the earth today.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm
Wow, 13 pages of hyperventilating and not a single person has contradicted any of the claims in the opening post.

Mothra, would you agree that Islam is the ultimate conservative ideology? Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


mothra wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:37am:
A study of averages

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

Simple viewpoints

Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:30pm

Quote:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


Do you think this is possible, FD?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm
Sure, it's plausible. If the details stack up I might add it to the faith ratchet article.

I've been meaning to add Aceh as an example.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:36pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


By adopting such arguments, would you say it dispels the myth that criticising Islam and muslims has nothing to do with race and racism?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:37pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Mothra, would you agree that Islam is the ultimate conservative ideology?



Are you saying conservatives are id iots? Whatdayaknow ... I agree  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


By adopting such arguments, would you say it dispels the myth that criticising Islam and muslims has nothing to do with race and racism?


Muslims aren't a Race. I know its hard to understand but they really are not. Honest.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


By adopting such arguments, would you say it dispels the myth that criticising Islam and muslims has nothing to do with race and racism?


I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf. It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics. Also, in this case Islam is the ultimate cause, and the genetic inferiority is a symptom. Even you have conceded that inbreeding is a significant problem, but that does not make you a racist.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:55pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
Sure, it's plausible. If the details stack up I might add it to the faith ratchet article.

I've been meaning to add Aceh as an example.


Does a genetically inferior subgroup apply to race, FD?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm
I look at the title of this thread then I read this.

"I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now."


;D ;D ;D

That's Pure Gold.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


Now now, G, I'm sure FD's not racist. After all, genetically inferior subgroups are not a race.

Can you imagine if a champion of liberal democracy like FD believed in the plausability of Matty's silly article? Impossible. I mean, it would mean he's gone full-Herbie.

No, FD wil be along any moment now to clear all this up, don't you worry about that. I'm sure it's just crossed wires or something, you'll see. 

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


Gandy, I'm not into the genetic aspect of this but the fact Islam has a preference of one particular book often to the total exclusion of others, the lack of books translated into Arabic,  the total lack of scientific achievement and patents leads me to think thereare some pretty major problems here

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:19pm
A better discussion would be how does one help someone with such a low cognitive ability raise their intellectual level. Or how do they help themselves.

The start would be freeing the mind to learn and breaks its boundaries. Once you have done that the skies the limit. If they want to stay chained up in ignorant bliss so be it. Unfortunately from what I have seen on here that is the case.

The mind boggles at some discussions on here with muslims where commonsense is literally thrown out the window along with intelligence. The same stuff is rehashed over and over and silly details seem so important to keep dragging up from years past. Its a childlike mentality. Two or three word posts like its a big he he moment, or you are a matty, but we've all read them before. Over and over again its a child like yawn moment of low intellect.

Freeing the mind to learn and accepting one can be wrong in a bid to understand and learn more and move on brings one up the intellectual ladder.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:21pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.


I think that's applicable to all religions but amplified because islam has such stringent rules and education is a closed shop with just one book that they REALLY like

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.


I think that's applicable to all religions but amplified because islam has such stringent rules and education is a closed shop with just one book that they REALLY like


No its not applicable at all. Its because of the teaching of the physical practice of inbreeding.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:28pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  :D :D


Neither can people that run around telling everyone that their is no God that lives in a spiritual realm when clearly they wouldn't know either way.

That's the same as inventing their own sky fairy down the back of the garden. Better to keep ones mouth shut about what one does not know anything about or does not understand, nor has the ability to make a firm conclusion about.

The fool speaks out of reaction.
The wise man thinks before he speaks.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm

Quote:
I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


A subgroup based on the history of religion can exist Gandalf. You made the link to racism, as you always do. The existence or otherwise of human races has little bearing on Muslims marrying their cousins.


Quote:
And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.


Wrong again Gandalf. Using Islam to refer to the subgroup would just be confusing. Islam is still a political, religious and military creed. Cousins are still cousins.


Quote:
The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


How about we start with whether it is true?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:33pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  :D :D


And then we have Ben Carson. Did one of the most complicated  cranial  conjoined twins separations. Young earth creationist.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:59pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  :D :D

yeah, Einstein was a real dummy. ::)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:05pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Quote:
I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


A subgroup based on the history of religion can exist Gandalf. You made the link to racism, as you always do.


That's strange, FD. Why would anyone make a link to racism?

Here's Matty's "scientist":


Quote:
It’s Throwback Thursday, which means a look back at crazy, stupid, or just plain bizarre incidents involving white nationalists and the Alt-Right. Today’s look back features Donald Templer, a now retired professor of psychology at Alliant International University. Templer, who presents his white supremacist opinions under the guise of scientific thought, has attended several of American Renaissance‘s yearly conferences in order to give speeches on race and intelligence that would have seemed outdated fifty years ago.

At the 2004 AmRen Conference, Templer gave a speech entitled “The Cost of Ignoring Group Differences.” And while I realize it may be discourteous to mock a person’s physical characteristics, I do find it at least a tad ironic that this pudgy, no-necked, bulldog of a man would have the nerve to espouse such pseudoscientific, pro-eugenics tripe.

“I have never believed that all ethnic groups are the same in psychological characteristics,” he said, taking time to pant every few seconds. “I have believed since I was a graduate student in the 1960s, that the black-white large IQ differences are genetic in origin.” He likened this realization about racial differences to “homosexual persons” coming out of the closet, and even likened himself and his fellow white supremacists to Galileo.

Templer’s racist rhetoric became even more venomous as he addressed America’s legacy of brutal racial discrimination against blacks. “Black Americans and many other minority groups have suffered from injustices in the history of our society. And this is unfortunate,” Templer conceded. “However, the present problems of blacks have little or nothing to do with slavery, with segregation, or with lynching. And I wish they would shut up!” he exclaimed to raucous applause. Instead, he asserted, their problems stem from “low intelligence and poor impulse control.” It is “nature and not white people” that is responsible for black Americans’ “smaller brains and lower intelligence on the average.”

Professor Templer continued, calling the “denial of the very large inherent intellectual difference between blacks and whites” has resulted in the “misuse of the expression ‘test bias.'” Templer rejected the idea of biased testing, and stated that there is “no such thing as test bias when it comes to blacks.” In fact, he remarked,”if black persons score low on an intelligence test, I couldn’t find any more powerful evidence for the validity of that test.” Instead of being horrified, the AmRen audience continued to laugh and applaud.

Another result of denying “inferior black intelligence” is that white folks are “blamed for the criminal proclivity of black persons.” And the root cause of black crime, according to Templer, is not poverty, failing educational institutions, or institutional racism. No. Instead he believes it is merely “low intelligence.” People with “low intelligence,” he claimed, “tend to have low frustration tolerance, poor judgment, poor impulse control, poor ability to contain their aggression, poor ability to contain their sexual urges. And poor ability to manage their funds.” He justified the comment on money management by saying that if he were a professional athlete who made $100,000 he would have invested his money and eventually doubled it, while black athletes squander their earnings until they go bankrupt.

But don’t worry, folks. They’re not racist or anything. They’re just pro-white.
https://hailtothegynocracy.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/throwback-thursday-donald-templer-misfortunes-of-black-americans-are-caused-by-their-own-low-intelligence/

And here's his journal:


Quote:
The Mankind Quarterly is a peer-reviewed academic journal dedicated to physical and cultural anthropology and is published by the Ulster Institute for Social Research in London. It contains articles on human evolution, intelligence, ethnography, linguistics, mythology, archaeology, etc. The journal aims to unify anthropology with biology.

It has been called a "cornerstone of the scientific racism establishment" and a "white supremacist journal",[1] "scientific racism's keepers of the flame",[2] a journal with a "racist orientation" and an "infamous racist journal",[3] and "journal of 'scientific racism'".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mankind_Quarterly

As you can see, FD, it's not about the Muselman at all.

Good to see you've finally come out.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries
Donald I. Templer

Abstract

The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.

http://donalditempler.com/assets/templer_8.pdf



Given the mean IQ is 81 highlights the problems of communication, learning ability and ability for rational reason. Bear that in mind when conversing or getting one too upset.

At a guess I'd say the mean IQ of the muslim apologist would be around 81 as well or possibly less.

So as a rule of thumb  when conversing with muslims or apologists keep it simple.


This is the OP DOPEY.

Go on use your high IQ to call me matty, sheesh I won't sleep at night now.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Quote:
Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


How is Islam a Genetic Sub group ?

Its a demographic of people that practice inbreeding because of islam resulting in sub standard genetics. You do understand this surely it ain't rocket science.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Read the article and say that, FD.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.



;D ;D ;D ;D

Priceless

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?


I have actually read all 15 pages of this thread Gandalf. I was interested to see if anyone would dispute the facts. Not even you.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Quote:
Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?


Templer's theory is that Arabs have low IQs because they bred with Arab slaves, FD.

Claiming that blacks and Muslims are racially inferior is hardly racist, shurely.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.

Are people with lower IQs inferior? Who stated that?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:18pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Quote:
Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?


Templer's theory is that Arabs have low IQs because they bred with Arab slaves, FD.

Claiming that blacks and Muslims are racially inferior is hardly racist, shurely.
Exactly who made that claim? Then op is about IQ differences and inherited genetic defects.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?


I have actually read all 15 pages of this thread Gandalf. I was interested to see if anyone would dispute the facts. Not even you.


Then you've just owned up to an inferior IQ.

You're not racist, FD, you're just subnormal.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:21pm
So karnal thinks that people with lower IQs are inferior. Interesting.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Quote:
Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?


Templer's theory is that Arabs have low IQs because they bred with Arab slaves, FD.

Claiming that blacks and Muslims are racially inferior is hardly racist, shurely.
Exactly who made that claim? Then op is about IQ differences and inherited genetic defects.


Only the person who wrote the article, Ian.

Donald I Templer's not racist. He just speaks exclusively to organizations that are.

Correlation not causation, innit.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?


I have actually read all 15 pages of this thread Gandalf. I was interested to see if anyone would dispute the facts. Not even you.


Then you've just owned up to an inferior IQ.

You're not racist, FD, you're just subnormal.


Your only contribution to criticising the author is an article that goes round in circles accusing him of racism.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Quote:
Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?


Templer's theory is that Arabs have low IQs because they bred with Arab slaves, FD.

Claiming that blacks and Muslims are racially inferior is hardly racist, shurely.
Exactly who made that claim? Then op is about IQ differences and inherited genetic defects.


Only the person who wrote the article, Ian.
Show where he states they are racially inferior.


Quote:
Donald I Templer's not racist. He just speaks exclusively to organizations that are.

.
heres where you are going wrong, and thats why you are losing this big time. His motivation doesnt matter, its the facts which are in debate.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
[quote author=Karnal link=1460704746/232#232 date=1460809359] His motivation doesnt matter,


Motivations are not a race either, eh?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.


Would authorship of scientific papers be a way?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:28pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
[quote author=Karnal link=1460704746/232#232 date=1460809359] His motivation doesnt matter,


Motivations are not a race either, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. The OP is still about IQ differences and inherited genetic defects.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:32pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.


Races don't exist FD, I've already pointed that out. And yet racism does exist.

How about you tell us what you think racism is then. You seemed to accept that it does exist in the other thread. I'd be fascinated what definition you come up with that doesn't involve the belief in the inferiority of certain human sub-groups based on their genetics.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:32pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence


Oh, I see.


Quote:
The 1981 article "Average IQ values in various European countries" by Vinko Buj is the only international IQ study that has compared IQs using the same IQ test over a short time period. It was probably completed in the 1970s and compared the capital cities or biggest towns in 21 European countries and Ghana.[2]

Researchers believe the data from this study are of dubious quality: except for a two-page-long publication, nothing about the study detail nor the author is known. The author didn't even work at a university.[3] However, according to the Croatian newspaper website Slobodna Dalmacija, Vinko Buj spent many years in training in Germany, specializing in clinical (medical) psychology in 1977, and later received his doctorate of psychological sciences at the University of Hamburg.[4] Nevertheless, the data yielded correlations with student assessment studies of only around -.10 to .07. Hence, the figures in the study do not seem to be ideal for studies on differences within Europe.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence#IQ_of_various_European_countries

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:37pm

Quote:
Races don't exist FD, I've already pointed that out. And yet racism does exist.

How about you tell us what you think racism is then. You seemed to accept that it does exist in the other thread. I'd be fascinated what definition you come up with that doesn't involve the belief in the inferiority of certain human sub-groups based on their genetics.


You can define them any way you want. Black, white, asian etc. People are talking about putting references to aboriginals (do they exist?) in our constitution. We have racial definitions written into plenty of our laws already. Do you see any references to inferiority here Gandalf?


Quote:
Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.


The theory is entirely plausible. The negative effects of inbreeding are well known. As are the significant problems with inbreeding in certain places, such as the middle east.

Are you saying that it is so outrageous there is not any need for people to even try to discredit it, beyond slandering the author?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


I wonder if you realise FD that Donald I Templer doesn't even mention the inbreeding theory to explain the low IQ.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:39pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence


Oh, I see.


Quote:
The 1981 article "Average IQ values in various European countries" by Vinko Buj is the only international IQ study that has compared IQs using the same IQ test over a short time period. It was probably completed in the 1970s and compared the capital cities or biggest towns in 21 European countries and Ghana.[2]

Researchers believe the data from this study are of dubious quality: except for a two-page-long publication, nothing about the study detail nor the author is known. The author didn't even work at a university.[3] However, according to the Croatian newspaper website Slobodna Dalmacija, Vinko Buj spent many years in training in Germany, specializing in clinical (medical) psychology in 1977, and later received his doctorate of psychological sciences at the University of Hamburg.[4] Nevertheless, the data yielded correlations with student assessment studies of only around -.10 to .07. Hence, the figures in the study do not seem to be ideal for studies on differences within Europe.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence#IQ_of_various_European_countries
You should have taken time to read the article more thoroughly, if you had you would have realised you focused on the criticism of the only IQ test which compared European countries and 1 African . regardless, IQ variations are accepted as fact by the scientific community, the only debate is to why they exist. So try harder. Im not going to enter a debate as to whether they exist, thats been done and dusted any number of times. And if you dont know that then you shouldnt even be approaching this subject.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


I wonder if you realise FD that Donald I Templer doesn't even mention the inbreeding theory to explain the low IQ.


Good work Gandalf. I think you are the first to make a factual criticism.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:41pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:37pm:
You can define them any way you want. Black, white, asian etc. People are talking about putting references to aboriginals (do they exist?) in our constitution. We have racial definitions written into plenty of our laws already. Do you see any references to inferiority here Gandalf?


I didn't ask you to define race FD, I asked you define racism.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:43pm
My mistake. Yes I accept that racism involves ascribing negative qualities to races. What is your point?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:43pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.


Would authorship of scientific papers be a way?


As you can see in the post above, dear, no.

Again, how did they calculate the average IQ of India? They haven't even rolled out electricity to much of the country.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:45pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:39pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence


Oh, I see.


Quote:
The 1981 article "Average IQ values in various European countries" by Vinko Buj is the only international IQ study that has compared IQs using the same IQ test over a short time period. It was probably completed in the 1970s and compared the capital cities or biggest towns in 21 European countries and Ghana.[2]

Researchers believe the data from this study are of dubious quality: except for a two-page-long publication, nothing about the study detail nor the author is known. The author didn't even work at a university.[3] However, according to the Croatian newspaper website Slobodna Dalmacija, Vinko Buj spent many years in training in Germany, specializing in clinical (medical) psychology in 1977, and later received his doctorate of psychological sciences at the University of Hamburg.[4] Nevertheless, the data yielded correlations with student assessment studies of only around -.10 to .07. Hence, the figures in the study do not seem to be ideal for studies on differences within Europe.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence#IQ_of_various_European_countries
You should have taken time to read the article more thoroughly, if you had you would have realised you focused on the criticism of the only IQ test which compared European countries and 1 African . regardless, IQ variations are accepted as fact by the scientific community, the only debate is to why they exist. So try harder. Im not going to enter a debate as to whether they exist, thats been done and dusted any number of times. And if you dont know that then you shouldnt even be approaching this subject.


So how are nations tested?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:47pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


I wonder if you realise FD that Donald I Templer doesn't even mention the inbreeding theory to explain the low IQ.


Good work Gandalf. I think you are the first to make a factual criticism.


Thats not a factual criticism FD, thats a statement of fact. One that clearly has been missed throughout this thread.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:48pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.


Would authorship of scientific papers be a way?


As you can see in the post above, dear, no.

Again, how did they calculate the average IQ of India? They haven't even rolled out electricity to much of the country.


I think you're wondering about their potential IQ

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:56pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:48pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.


Would authorship of scientific papers be a way?


As you can see in the post above, dear, no.

Again, how did they calculate the average IQ of India? They haven't even rolled out electricity to much of the country.


I think you're wondering about their potential IQ


They certainly have a large percentage of Muselmen, no?

Have you read Templer's charts? Can you make out the national percentage of Muslims? How is India's Muslim population mixed in with Lebanon or Singapore or Malaysia's Muslim population? Their populations are not solely Muslim. Were the tests done according to religion and cross referenced? How many were tested per head of population? What methadology is used? What's the accuracy?

FD knows all the answers, but he's not saying.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:56pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:45pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:39pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:17pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.


An estimate?

go on then.


That's my answer, Ian.
Its the wrong answer, but keep trying. :)


How do you discover the average IQ of a country like India, Ian? Or Afghanistan?

Please tell me the right answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence


Oh, I see.


Quote:
The 1981 article "Average IQ values in various European countries" by Vinko Buj is the only international IQ study that has compared IQs using the same IQ test over a short time period. It was probably completed in the 1970s and compared the capital cities or biggest towns in 21 European countries and Ghana.[2]

Researchers believe the data from this study are of dubious quality: except for a two-page-long publication, nothing about the study detail nor the author is known. The author didn't even work at a university.[3] However, according to the Croatian newspaper website Slobodna Dalmacija, Vinko Buj spent many years in training in Germany, specializing in clinical (medical) psychology in 1977, and later received his doctorate of psychological sciences at the University of Hamburg.[4] Nevertheless, the data yielded correlations with student assessment studies of only around -.10 to .07. Hence, the figures in the study do not seem to be ideal for studies on differences within Europe.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence#IQ_of_various_European_countries
You should have taken time to read the article more thoroughly, if you had you would have realised you focused on the criticism of the only IQ test which compared European countries and 1 African . regardless, IQ variations are accepted as fact by the scientific community, the only debate is to why they exist. So try harder. Im not going to enter a debate as to whether they exist, thats been done and dusted any number of times. And if you dont know that then you shouldnt even be approaching this subject.


So how are nations tested?
why dont you just read the article if you dont know this stuff?

Quote:
n the 2002 book IQ and the Wealth of Nations, and the 2006 book IQ and Global Inequality, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen created estimates of average IQs for 113 nations and estimated the IQs of 79 other nations based on neighboring nations and other manners. They also created an estimate of "quality of human conditions" for each nation based on gross national product per capita, adult literacy rate, the fraction of the population enrolled in secondary education, life expectancy, and rate of democratization. Lynn and Vanhanen found a substantial correlation between the national IQ scores they created and these various socioeconomic factors. They conclude that national IQ influences these measures of well-being and that national differences in IQ are heavily influenced by genetics, although they also allow for some environmental contributions. They regard nutrition as the most important environmental factor, and education a secondary factor.[6]

Though the collection has been praised as "landmark" by Rindermann,[7] the books and their argument have been roundly criticized on methodological and analytical grounds: for some countries, test samples were very small or unrepresentative, different tests were used by different researchers conducting the test surveys, measurements of intelligence stem from different years (although the authors tried to correct this), and missing data was estimated by using unweighted arithmetic means used for neighboring countries with similar people.[7][8][9][10][11]

In a 2010 paper, Lynn updated his estimates of national IQs from IQ and Global Inequality and presented new estimated national IQs for 25 countries, which had previously only been estimated from neighboring nations.[12] Lynn and Vanhanen updated their estimates again in the 2013 book Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences.[13]

International student assessment studies[edit]
Regarding several methodology issues of IQ and the Wealth of Nations, Hunt and Wittmann compared contemporary educational data from the Program for International Student Assessment with national wealth. They concluded that Lynn and Vanhanen's empirical conclusion is correct, but they questioned the simple explanation that national intelligence causes national wealth.[14]

In 2010, Lynn and Meisenberg integrated all the international studies of

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:57pm
Kill them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:58pm
as i stated, theres really no disagreement that IQ differences exist, just as to what causes these differences.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:00pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:57pm:
Kill them.
Yes, we know. you have nothing.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:00pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:57pm:
Kill them.


Either way your average IQ is 81 as displayed.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:01pm
What were you saying, Ian?


Quote:
n the 2002 book IQ and the Wealth of Nations, and the 2006 book IQ and Global Inequality, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen created estimates of average IQs for 113 nations and estimated the IQs of 79 other nations based on neighboring nations and other manners. They also created an estimate of "quality of human conditions" for each nation based on gross national product per capita, adult literacy rate, the fraction of the population enrolled in secondary education, life expectancy, and rate of democratization. Lynn and Vanhanen found a substantial correlation between the national IQ scores they created and these various socioeconomic factors. They conclude that national IQ influences these measures of well-being and that national differences in IQ are heavily influenced by genetics, although they also allow for some environmental contributions. They regard nutrition as the most important environmental factor, and education a secondary factor.[6]

Though the collection has been praised as "landmark" by Rindermann,[7] the books and their argument have been roundly criticized on methodological and analytical grounds: for some countries, test samples were very small or unrepresentative, different tests were used by different researchers conducting the test surveys, measurements of intelligence stem from different years (although the authors tried to correct this), and missing data was estimated by using unweighted arithmetic means used for neighboring countries with similar people.[7][8][9][10][11]

In a 2010 paper, Lynn updated his estimates of national IQs from IQ and Global Inequality and presented new estimated national IQs for 25 countries, which had previously only been estimated from neighboring nations.[12] Lynn and Vanhanen updated their estimates again in the 2013 book Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences.[13]

International student assessment studies[edit]
Regarding several methodology issues of IQ and the Wealth of Nations, Hunt and Wittmann compared contemporary educational data from the Program for International Student Assessment with national wealth. They concluded that Lynn and Vanhanen's empirical conclusion is correct, but they questioned the simple explanation that national intelligence causes national wealth.[14]

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:01pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

 

he doesnt have prove it, its already been proved.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm
Cesterete them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:05pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:58pm:
as i stated, theres really no disagreement that IQ differences exist, just as to what causes these differences.


Differences exist in what? Nations? Races? Religions? Classes? FD's genetically inferior subgroups?

Please explain.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:06pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:01pm:
What were you saying, Ian?


Quote:
n the 2002 book IQ and the Wealth of Nations, and the 2006 book IQ and Global Inequality, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen created estimates of average IQs for 113 nations and estimated the IQs of 79 other nations based on neighboring nations and other manners. They also created an estimate of "quality of human conditions" for each nation based on gross national product per capita, adult literacy rate, the fraction of the population enrolled in secondary education, life expectancy, and rate of democratization. Lynn and Vanhanen found a substantial correlation between the national IQ scores they created and these various socioeconomic factors. They conclude that national IQ influences these measures of well-being and that national differences in IQ are heavily influenced by genetics, although they also allow for some environmental contributions. They regard nutrition as the most important environmental factor, and education a secondary factor.[6]

Though the collection has been praised as "landmark" by Rindermann,[7] the books and their argument have been roundly criticized on methodological and analytical grounds: for some countries, test samples were very small or unrepresentative, different tests were used by different researchers conducting the test surveys, measurements of intelligence stem from different years (although the authors tried to correct this), and missing data was estimated by using unweighted arithmetic means used for neighboring countries with similar people.[7][8][9][10][11]

In a 2010 paper, Lynn updated his estimates of national IQs from IQ and Global Inequality and presented new estimated national IQs for 25 countries, which had previously only been estimated from neighboring nations.[12] Lynn and Vanhanen updated their estimates again in the 2013 book Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences.[13]

International student assessment studies[edit]
Regarding several methodology issues of IQ and the Wealth of Nations, Hunt and Wittmann compared contemporary educational data from the Program for International Student Assessment with national wealth. They concluded that Lynn and Vanhanen's empirical conclusion is correct, but they questioned the simple explanation that national intelligence causes national wealth.[14]


So you've settled on "estimates", eh?
Ive settled on current scientific agreement. Maybe you should. The arguement that there is no IQ difference between racial groups is going nowhere. Its been done and dusted,.Heres a hint for you to go off and learn, the U.S.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm
It is an interest experiment even to read the muslims response in this thread. Absolutely no acknowledgement of the problem. Absolutely no debate on how to solve it. Just a rant on racism and how to abuse the author, anything to avoid the hard facts.

I think its more the fact they don't want to face the fact of a low IQ. A low IQ would not help this either. The first step to a higher IQ is acknowledging a low IQ then make a plan if you want a higher IQ. If not there is no shame having a low IQ we are all different. It just good practice to not get involved when people of a higher IQ are discussing at a higher intellectual level or you just come across as stupid.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
My mistake. Yes I accept that racism involves ascribing negative qualities to races. What is your point?


So you accept humans form certain distinctive genetic sub-groups that manifests itself as different coloured skin, slanty eyes etc that you call "races". Yet when the same process (supposedly) manifests itself as lower IQ - which you seem very keen to accept - its suddenly not about race.

Is it because you are only comfortable with racism that doesn't involve muslims?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Cesterete them.


Do you know your IQ do you come close to 80 ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:05pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:58pm:
as i stated, theres really no disagreement that IQ differences exist, just as to what causes these differences.


Differences exist in what? Nations? Races? Religions? Classes? FD's genetically inferior subgroups?

Please explain.

All of these. You need to learn a bit more about this. you arent up to my standard in this debate unfortuanately, you dont yet understand the basics.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:01pm:
What were you saying, Ian?


Quote:
n the 2002 book IQ and the Wealth of Nations, and the 2006 book IQ and Global Inequality, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen created estimates of average IQs for 113 nations and estimated the IQs of 79 other nations based on neighboring nations and other manners. They also created an estimate of "quality of human conditions" for each nation based on gross national product per capita, adult literacy rate, the fraction of the population enrolled in secondary education, life expectancy, and rate of democratization. Lynn and Vanhanen found a substantial correlation between the national IQ scores they created and these various socioeconomic factors. They conclude that national IQ influences these measures of well-being and that national differences in IQ are heavily influenced by genetics, although they also allow for some environmental contributions. They regard nutrition as the most important environmental factor, and education a secondary factor.[6]

Though the collection has been praised as "landmark" by Rindermann,[7] the books and their argument have been roundly criticized on methodological and analytical grounds: for some countries, test samples were very small or unrepresentative, different tests were used by different researchers conducting the test surveys, measurements of intelligence stem from different years (although the authors tried to correct this), and missing data was estimated by using unweighted arithmetic means used for neighboring countries with similar people.[7][8][9][10][11]

In a 2010 paper, Lynn updated his estimates of national IQs from IQ and Global Inequality and presented new estimated national IQs for 25 countries, which had previously only been estimated from neighboring nations.[12] Lynn and Vanhanen updated their estimates again in the 2013 book Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences.[13]

International student assessment studies[edit]
Regarding several methodology issues of IQ and the Wealth of Nations, Hunt and Wittmann compared contemporary educational data from the Program for International Student Assessment with national wealth. They concluded that Lynn and Vanhanen's empirical conclusion is correct, but they questioned the simple explanation that national intelligence causes national wealth.[14]


So you've settled on "estimates", eh?
Ive settled on current scientific agreement. Maybe you should. The arguement that there is no IQ difference between racial groups is going nowhere. Its been done and dusted,.Heres a hint for you to go off and learn, the U.S.


No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:10pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Cesterete them.


Do you know your IQ do you come close to 80 ?


I'm not sure, Matty, I've never been tested.

The Pakistani race doesn't have my score in there, so unfair.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:12pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


If you're talking about the Templer article - how about we talk about his stated view that the best determiner of IQ is skin colour?

Sound reputable to you FD?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:12pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


If you're talking about the Templer article - how about we talk about his stated view that the best determiner of IQ is skin colour?

Sound reputable to you FD?


FD didn't read that bit, G.

Anyway, skin colour's not a race.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Cesterete them.


Do you know your IQ do you come close to 80 ?


I'm not sure, Matty, I've never been tested.

The Pakistani race doesn't have my score in there, so unfair.


So muslims have an average of 81 , you are muslim so that would be your average.

How do you feel about that ?

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why I am curious it just seems very child like to me.

Do you acknowledge its child like ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.


Come on Karnal. I've told you over and over again. I blame the software

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:22pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Cesterete them.


Do you know your IQ do you come close to 80 ?


I'm not sure, Matty, I've never been tested.

The Pakistani race doesn't have my score in there, so unfair.


So muslims have an average of 81 , you are muslim so that would be your average.

How do you feel about that ?


I'm not a Muslim, Matty.

Worse - I'm an apologist.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:23pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:22pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Cesterete them.


Do you know your IQ do you come close to 80 ?


I'm not sure, Matty, I've never been tested.

The Pakistani race doesn't have my score in there, so unfair.


So muslims have an average of 81 , you are muslim so that would be your average.

How do you feel about that ?


I'm not a Muslim, Matty.

Worse - I'm an apologist.



So now you're not a muslim since the IQ Report was posted.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why I am curious it just seems very child like to me.

Do you acknowledge its child like ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:25pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.


Come on Karnal. I've told you over and over again. I blame the software


The Negroid genes?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:30pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.


Come on Karnal. I've told you over and over again. I blame the software


The Negroid jeans?


You mean the baggy kind that rap singers wear?
I'm more of a cargo pants kinda guy.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:32pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
[
No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. these arent claims. They are scientific fact. You would have more credibility if you questioned them on something like nutritional differences, or cultural bias. But you havent reached that level of knowledge yet.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:34pm
Karnal I'll ask again.

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why? I am curious.

Do you acknowledge its a child like response along with
"Ban Them" over and over on this forum ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Karnal I'll ask again.

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why? I am curious.

Do you acknowledge its a child like response along with
"Ban Them" over and over on this forum ?


It gets as boring as an old burqa

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
[
No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. these arent claims. They are scientific fact. You would have more credibility if you questioned them on something like nutritional differences, or cultural bias. But you havent reached that level of knowledge yet.


And how do they disover these unquestionable facts, Ian? I'm trying to understand your superior knowledge.

What do you think of Ian's logic, FD? One of the Nazi sites that championed Templer's work called him a true ubermenchen.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:44pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.


Come on Karnal. I've told you over and over again. I blame the software


The Negroid jeans?


You mean the baggy kind that rap singers wear?
I'm more of a cargo pants kinda guy.


I knew it. Typical.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:44pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
[
No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. these arent claims. They are scientific fact. You would have more credibility if you questioned them on something like nutritional differences, or cultural bias. But you havent reached that level of knowledge yet.


And how do they disover these unquestionable facts, Ian? I'm trying to understand your superior knowledge.

What do you think of Ian's logic, FD? One of the Nazi sites that championed Templer's work called him a true ubermenchen.


The same Nazi's in bed with the Muslims ;D ;D ;D

I'll ask a 3rd time.

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why? I am curious.

Do you acknowledge its a child like response along with
"Ban Them" over and over on this forum ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:45pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
[
No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. these arent claims. They are scientific fact. You would have more credibility if you questioned them on something like nutritional differences, or cultural bias. But you havent reached that level of knowledge yet.


And how do they disover these unquestionable facts, Ian? I'm trying to understand your superior knowledge.
Then you need to learn and do research into the subject as I have.


Quote:
What do you think of Ian's logic, FD? One of the Nazi sites that championed Templer's work called him a true ubermenchen.
So? Does that negate the facts?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:48pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
Do any of the apologists here think it is more important to prove the author wrong than to prove he is racist?


Please tell us how he could possibly be right, FD.

And when you've done that, tell us all how you could not possibly be racist yourself after your conversion to neo-Nazi racial theories.


Hypothetically if a racists was to discover cognitive differences between different races and they were peer reviewed would you accept the results regardless of how unpalatable they are?


A racial supremacist like Templer could never be peer reviewed in a mainstream publication, you should know that.

I'd be happy to accept racial differences if they could be proven, but I doubt you'll prove a racial difference in cognition.

Interesting that you're championing this idea though, Gordy - for an avowed non-racist.


Come on Karnal. I've told you over and over again. I blame the software


The Negroid jeans?


You mean the baggy kind that rap singers wear?
I'm more of a cargo pants kinda guy.


I knew it. Typical.


I buy my work pants from Rodd and Gun.
The whitest cloths shop ever.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:49pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
Karnal I'll ask again.

Does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why? I am curious.

Do you acknowledge its a child like response along with
"Ban Them" over and over on this forum ?


It gets as boring as an old burqa


Yep I know I am just pointing out the fact since karnal is not a muslim anymore since this thread appeared that denial doesn't rub away the evidence. Acknowledging the fact of a low IQ is the start. Yet all we get is avoidance and deflection away from the issue that karnal can't face up too. Low IQ doesn't help face up to a response as we are experiencing the results of that survey in this very thread.

Which is encouraging from an analytical point of view and interesting to see.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:11am
Well I guess her/it/him doesn't like having its low IQ pointed out to it. Doing a runner is what they do rather than face reality and work an intelligent solution.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:24am

"percent"     ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:29am
There is no need to point your low IQ out to you.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:40am

"81% hear your"    ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:42am

Yes we all know your hearing is at 81%.

Have you considered one of these


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:43am

"81% hear your"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:29am
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/cousin-marriage-can-reduce-i-q-a-lot/#.VxJZVUx97RZ

Cousin marriage can reduce I.Q. a lot

In light of the previous post I was curious about the literature on inbreeding depression of IQ. A literature search led me to conclude two things:

– This is not a sexy field. A lot of the results are old.

– The range in depression for first cousin marriages seems to be on the order of 2.5 to 10 IQ points. In other words ~0.15 to ~0.65 standard deviation units of decline in intelligence.

The most extreme case was this paper from 1993, Inbreeding depression and intelligence quotient among north Indian children. The authors compared the children of first cousin marriages, and non-bred in individuals, from a sample of Muslims in Uttar Pradesh of comparable socioeconomic status (though the authors note that inbreeding has a positive correlation with socioeconomic status in this community). A table with results speaks for itself:




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:52am

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:45pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
[
No no, we're discussing the source of those claims, Ian. How do they work out the IQ of a race?

Not saying, eh?

Your deflection isnt working. these arent claims. They are scientific fact. You would have more credibility if you questioned them on something like nutritional differences, or cultural bias. But you havent reached that level of knowledge yet.


And how do they disover these unquestionable facts, Ian? I'm trying to understand your superior knowledge.
Then you need to learn and do research into the subject as I have.


Quote:
What do you think of Ian's logic, FD? One of the Nazi sites that championed Templer's work called him a true ubermenchen.
So? Does that negate the facts?


Yes, Ian - that, and the fact that you can’t even fathom the methadology used.

A rAcist study with nonsensical ontological foundations, statistics and "findings".

It’s all in the paper you - and FD - haven’t read.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:56am
I'll ask a 4th time.

Karnal does calling people a muslim aka matty make you feel like you have one up ? If so why? I am curious.

Do you acknowledge its a child like response along with
"Ban Them" over and over on this forum ?

Do you acknowledge this displays the credibility that you in fact do have a low IQ ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:27am
It was Nikolai Sennels who was pushing the inbreeding theory - see post #56 for an example.


Quote:
Thats not a factual criticism FD, thats a statement of fact. One that clearly has been missed throughout this thread.


Still, it is a big step up from what we have so far.


Quote:
So you accept humans form certain distinctive genetic sub-groups that manifests itself as different coloured skin, slanty eyes etc that you call "races". Yet when the same process (supposedly) manifests itself as lower IQ - which you seem very keen to accept - its suddenly not about race.


It has only been going on for 1400 years. If it went on for a lot longer then the process could result in distinct races, but as it is (and as Karnal just pointed out) the racial lines are blurred. Even within the middle east, the practice of marrying first cousins varies significantly between communities. In some central Arab cultures, a man is considered to have the right to marry his cousin (father's borther's daughter). He cannot force her, but she needs his consent to marry someone else.

Do you think this is racist? Should we pretend the problem does not exist in case we get labelled racist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage

In Qatar, Yemen, and UAE, consanguinity rates are increasing in the current generation. Research among Arabs and worldwide has indicated that consanguinity could have an effect on some reproductive health parameters such as postnatal mortality and rates of congenital malformations.



Cousin marriages (second-degree cousins or closer) in the world, in percentage (%).
  <1
  1–4
  5-9
  10-19
  20-29
  30-39
  40-49
  50+

Except for the far east, this looks pretty much like a map of the historical spread of Islam, don't you think? It certainly looks like a map of how Islam spread via the traditional top down imposition favoured by Muhammed and his fellow cousin porkers.

Although isolated cousin marriages may pose little risk, repeated consanginous marriages within a group are more problematic. After repeated generations of cousin marriage the actual genetic relationship between two people is closer than the most immediate relationship would suggest. In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations and the current rate may exceed 50%, one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among nonconsanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of prereproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.


Quote:
If you're talking about the Templer article - how about we talk about his stated view that the best determiner of IQ is skin colour?
Sound reputable to you FD?


It is certainly controversial. These differences have been measured. The only disagreement is over what it actually means.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:40am

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:27am:
Do you think this is racist? Should we pretend the problem does not exist in case we get labelled racist?


No its not racist. And you know what? No mention in that article about IQ.

Funny that. Now how did we start linking consanguinity to IQ? Certainly not from the studies you just quoted, and certainly not from the original Templar article. So far all we have is the completely unverified say-so of some racist working for Lockheed in Saudi Arabia.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:48am

Quote:
Funny that. Now how did we start linking consanguinity to IQ?


OK I'll join the last dot for you:


Sir James wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:29am:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/cousin-marriage-can-reduce-i-q-a-lot/#.VxJZVUx97RZ

Cousin marriage can reduce I.Q. a lot

In light of the previous post I was curious about the literature on inbreeding depression of IQ. A literature search led me to conclude two things:

– This is not a sexy field. A lot of the results are old.

– The range in depression for first cousin marriages seems to be on the order of 2.5 to 10 IQ points. In other words ~0.15 to ~0.65 standard deviation units of decline in intelligence.

The most extreme case was this paper from 1993, Inbreeding depression and intelligence quotient among north Indian children. The authors compared the children of first cousin marriages, and non-bred in individuals, from a sample of Muslims in Uttar Pradesh of comparable socioeconomic status (though the authors note that inbreeding has a positive correlation with socioeconomic status in this community). A table with results speaks for itself:



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:04am
So let me ask you this FD:

If I start denigrating negroes as sub-human, genetically inferior filth, that would be racist right? - despite the fairly strong evidence that negroes score lower in IQ tests than non-negroes?

But we're not going to label moses' mantra about all muslims being sub-human genetically inferior "toilet squatting" filth as racist - because of the evidence that the muslim world has higher levels of consangunuity and lower IQ racist?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:07am
Dear Gandalf - why are Muslims so thick?

An IQ of 81 is very low.

That's about the same as a Chimp or an Ape.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:33am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:04am:
So let me ask you this FD:

If I start denigrating negroes as sub-human, genetically inferior filth, that would be racist right? - despite the fairly strong evidence that negroes score lower in IQ tests than non-negroes?

But we're not going to label moses' mantra about all muslims being sub-human genetically inferior "toilet squatting" filth as racist - because of the evidence that the muslim world has higher levels of consangunuity and lower IQ racist?


I think you should be more concerned about whether it is true than whether it is racist.

What do you think of this?



Cousin marriages (second-degree cousins or closer) in the world, in percentage (%).
  <1
  1–4
  5-9
  10-19
  20-29
  30-39
  40-49
  50+



The Caliphate, 622–750
  Expansion under Muhammad, 622–632
  Expansion during the Rashidun Caliphs, 632–661
  Expansion during the Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:30am

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:33am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:04am:
So let me ask you this FD:

If I start denigrating negroes as sub-human, genetically inferior filth, that would be racist right? - despite the fairly strong evidence that negroes score lower in IQ tests than non-negroes?

But we're not going to label moses' mantra about all muslims being sub-human genetically inferior "toilet squatting" filth as racist - because of the evidence that the muslim world has higher levels of consangunuity and lower IQ racist?


I think you should be more concerned about whether it is true than whether it is racist.

What do you think of this?



Cousin marriages (second-degree cousins or closer) in the world, in percentage (%).
  <1
  1–4
  5-9
  10-19
  20-29
  30-39
  40-49
  50+



The Caliphate, 622–750
  Expansion under Muhammad, 622–632
  Expansion during the Rashidun Caliphs, 632–661
  Expansion during the Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750


I think Hindus outweigh all those Muselmen on Matty’s chart, FD. And yet, according to Matty’s "scientifically racist" Templer article, India has a larger estimated national IQ than many of your tiny Muselman countries, like Oman and Saudi Arabia.

But they have the higher GDP.

And India has the higher growth.

And on and on and on.

But none of this is racist. Islam is not a race.

It’s just good clean eugenics, nein?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am

Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %
-------------   
1  Singapore       108 
2  South Korea       106 
3  Japan       105 
4  Italy       102 
5  Iceland       101 
5  Mongolia       101 
6  Switzerland       101 
7  Austria       100 
7  China       100 
7  Luxembourg       100 
7  Netherlands       100 
7  Norway       100 
7  United Kingdom       100 
8  Belgium       99 
8  Canada       99 
8  Estonia       99 
8  Finland       99 
8  Germany       99 
8  New Zealand       99 
8  Poland       99 
8  Sweden       99 
9  Andorra       98 
9  Australia       98 
9  Czech Republic 98 
9  Denmark       98 
9  France       98 
9  Hungary       98 
9  Latvia       98 
9  Spain       98 
9  United States       98 
10  Belarus       97 
10  Malta       97 
10  Russia       97 
10  Ukraine       97 
11  Moldova       96 
11  Slovakia       96 
11  Slovenia       96 
11  Uruguay       96 
12  Israel       95 
12  Portugal       95 
13  Armenia       94 
13  Georgia       94 
13  Kazakhstan       94 
13  Romania       94 
13  Vietnam       94 
14  Argentina       93 
14  Bulgaria       93 
15  Greece       92 
15  Ireland       92 
15  Malaysia       92 
16  Brunei       91 
16  Cambodia       91 
16  Cyprus       91 
16  FYROM       91 
16  Lithuania       91 
16  Sierra Leone       91 
16  Thailand       91 
17  Albania       90 
17  Bosnia and Herzegovina       90 
17  Chile       90 
17  Croatia       90 
17  Kyrgyzstan       90 
17  Turkey       90 
18  Cook Islands       89 
18  Costa Rica       89 
18  Laos       89 
18  Mauritius       89 
18  Serbia       89 
18  Suriname       89 
19  Ecuador       88 
19  Mexico       88 
19  Samoa       88 
20  Azerbaijan       87 
20  Bolivia       87 
20  Brazil       87 
20  Guyana       87 
20  Indonesia       87 
20  Iraq       87 
20  Myanmar (Burma)  87 
20  Tajikistan       87 
20  Turkmenistan       87 
20  Uzbekistan       87 
21  Kuwait       86 
21  Philippines       86 
21  Seychelles       86 
21  Tonga       86 
22  Cuba       85 
22  Eritrea       85 
22  Fiji       85 
22  Kiribati       85 
22  Peru       85 
22  Trinidad and Tobago       85 
22  Yemen       85 
23  Afghanistan       84 
23  Bahamas, The       84 
23  Belize       84 
23  Colombia       84 
23  Iran       84 
23  Jordan       84 
23  Marshall Islands       84 
23  Micronesia, Federated States of       84 
23  Morocco       84 
23  Nigeria       84 
23  Pakistan       84 
23  Panama       84 
23  Paraguay       84 
23  Saudi Arabia       84 
23  Solomon Islands       84 
23  Uganda       84 
23  United Arab Emirates       84 
23  Vanuatu       84 
23  Venezuela       84 
24  Algeria       83 
24  Bahrain       83 
24  Libya       83 
24  Oman       83 
24  Papua New Guinea       83 
24  Syria       83 
24  Tunisia       83 
25  Bangladesh       82 
25  Dominican Republic       82 
25  India       82 
25  Lebanon       82 
25  Madagascar       82 
25  Zimbabwe       82 
26  Egypt       81 
26  Honduras       81 
26  Maldives       81 
26  Nicaragua       81 
27  Barbados       80 
27  Bhutan       80 
27  El Salvador       80 
27  Kenya       80 
28  Guatemala       79 
28  Sri Lanka       79 
28  Zambia       79 
29  Congo, Democratic Republic of the       78 
29  Nepal       78 
29  Qatar       78 
30  Comoros       77 
30  South Africa       77 
31  Cape Verde       76 
31  Congo, Republic of the       76 
31  Mauritania       76 
31  Senegal       76 
32  Mali       74 
32  Namibia       74 
33  Ghana       73 
34  Tanzania       72 
35  Central African Republic       71 
35  Grenada       71 
35  Jamaica       71 
35  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines       71 
35  Sudan       71 
36  Antigua and Barbuda       70 
36  Benin       70 
36  Botswana       70 
36  Rwanda       70 
36  Togo       70 
37  Burundi       69 
37  Cote d'Ivoire       69 
37  Ethiopia       69 
37  Malawi       69 
37  Niger       69 
38  Angola       68 
38  Burkina Faso       68 
38  Chad       68 
38  Djibouti       68 
38  Somalia       68 
38  Swaziland       68 
39  Dominica       67 
39  Guinea       67 
39  Guinea-Bissau       67 
39  Haiti       67 
39  Lesotho       67 
39  Liberia       67 
39  Saint Kitts and Nevis       67 
39  Sao Tome and Principe       67 
40  Gambia, The       66 
41  Cameroon       64 
41  Gabon       64 
41  Mozambique       64 
42  Saint Lucia       62 
43  Equatorial Guinea       59 
North Korea       N/A 

Pakistan didn't rank very highly Karnal. Hubby wouldn't like that.
;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %


Another numpty who doesn't understand IQ scores.

"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:57am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?


IQ scores aren't percentages, you numpty.

You've successfully demonstrated that your IQ is obviously rather low.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.

Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:01pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %


Too funny.       ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %


IQ scores aren't percentages.

We went through this last night.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?


That isn't showing percentiles.

It's showing "IQ scores".

It says it quite clearly.

IQ scores are not percentages.

Don't you understand the difference?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %


IQ scores aren't percentages.

We went through this last night.
Yes that's true. It's a point system. But they are looking at a ranking muppet. Not individual point scores. You've failed to even determine what these figures are about.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?


It's showing "IQ scores".

It say it quite clearly.

IQ scores are not percentages.
It's showing RANKINGS!!! ::)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:11pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?


It's showing "IQ scores".

It say it quite clearly.

IQ scores are not percentages.
It's showing RANKINGS!!! ::)


Of average "IQ scores".  Not percentiles.

::)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?


It's showing "IQ scores".

It say it quite clearly.

IQ scores are not percentages.
It's showing RANKINGS!!! ::)


Of average "IQ scores".  Not percentiles.

::)
Didn't you ever get a report card? Think about it.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:12pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %



"percentage"

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What are you going on about nincompoop?
So where did I write percentage? Don't make stuff up pecca. It's almost as bad as when you edit posts.


Here, numpty:

"Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
"Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    % "
That's from the download nitwit. The % is probably in relation to the overall group scores. Not the individual scores. Christ you are dumb.


Nice try.

Cite your reference.
Haven't you heard of percentile  ranges spastic?


It's showing "IQ scores".

It say it quite clearly.

IQ scores are not percentages.
It's showing RANKINGS!!! ::)


Yes, on the left hand side.

On the right it is showing "IQ scores".

IQ scores are not expressed as percentages.

Moreover, the scores shown are not percentiles.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:13pm
Now Hammer thinks they're percentages?  :o :o

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It's evident that Hammer should be the last person to criticise anyone about their IQ.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:14pm

"IQ is often expressed in percentiles, which is not the same as percentage scores, and a common reason for the misunderstanding of IQ test scores."

http://www.edublox.com/iq-test/iq04.htm

Mr Hammer and James need to go back to school.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:17pm
You 2 muppets should stick to defending refugees and leave the stats alone.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You 2 muppets should stick to defending refugees and leave the stats alone.


You should learn the difference between an IQ score, percentages, and percentiles.

Hopefully you have, now.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You 2 muppets should stick to defending refugees and leave the stats alone.



no problem. I'll do just that AFTER you learn how to read stats.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:23pm
I've got a job for you 2 muppets. Download me a world IQ ranking that's drastically different to this one. I bet you can't. No download means I win again.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:24pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:23pm:
I've got a job for you 2 muppets. Download me a world IQ ranking that's drastically different to this one. I bet you can't. No download means I win again.


Changing the subject now, hey?

IQ scores aren't percentages.

The figures you provided were not percentiles - they were national IQ scores.

You inability to understand this, would have your score somewhere around the 75 mark.

Own goal, numpty.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.


With Mr Hammer and James right down the bottom.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:23pm:
I've got a job for you 2 muppets. Download me a world IQ ranking that's drastically different to this one. I bet you can't. No download means I win again.


Win? how do you figure that?

Has anyone even disputed the figures?

Perhaps I was wrong before, it's not just statistics you need to learn to read, it's English

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %
-------------   
1  Singapore       108 
2  South Korea       106 
3  Japan       105 
4  Italy       102 
5  Iceland       101 
5  Mongolia       101 
6  Switzerland       101 
7  Austria       100 
7  China       100 
7  Luxembourg       100 
7  Netherlands       100 
7  Norway       100 
7  United Kingdom       100 
8  Belgium       99 
8  Canada       99 
8  Estonia       99 
8  Finland       99 
8  Germany       99 
8  New Zealand       99 
8  Poland       99 
8  Sweden       99 
9  Andorra       98 
9  Australia       98 
9  Czech Republic 98 
9  Denmark       98 
9  France       98 
9  Hungary       98 
9  Latvia       98 
9  Spain       98 
9  United States       98 
10  Belarus       97 
10  Malta       97 
10  Russia       97 
10  Ukraine       97 
11  Moldova       96 
11  Slovakia       96 
11  Slovenia       96 
11  Uruguay       96 
12  Israel       95 
12  Portugal       95 
13  Armenia       94 
13  Georgia       94 
13  Kazakhstan       94 
13  Romania       94 
13  Vietnam       94 
14  Argentina       93 
14  Bulgaria       93 
15  Greece       92 
15  Ireland       92 
15  Malaysia       92 
16  Brunei       91 
16  Cambodia       91 
16  Cyprus       91 
16  FYROM       91 
16  Lithuania       91 
16  Sierra Leone       91 
16  Thailand       91 
17  Albania       90 
17  Bosnia and Herzegovina       90 
17  Chile       90 
17  Croatia       90 
17  Kyrgyzstan       90 
17  Turkey       90 
18  Cook Islands       89 
18  Costa Rica       89 
18  Laos       89 
18  Mauritius       89 
18  Serbia       89 
18  Suriname       89 
19  Ecuador       88 
19  Mexico       88 
19  Samoa       88 
20  Azerbaijan       87 
20  Bolivia       87 
20  Brazil       87 
20  Guyana       87 
20  Indonesia       87 
20  Iraq       87 
20  Myanmar (Burma)  87 
20  Tajikistan       87 
20  Turkmenistan       87 
20  Uzbekistan       87 
21  Kuwait       86 
21  Philippines       86 
21  Seychelles       86 
21  Tonga       86 
22  Cuba       85 
22  Eritrea       85 
22  Fiji       85 
22  Kiribati       85 
22  Peru       85 
22  Trinidad and Tobago       85 
22  Yemen       85 
23  Afghanistan       84 
23  Bahamas, The       84 
23  Belize       84 
23  Colombia       84 
23  Iran       84 
23  Jordan       84 
23  Marshall Islands       84 
23  Micronesia, Federated States of       84 
23  Morocco       84 
23  Nigeria       84 
23  Pakistan       84 
23  Panama       84 
23  Paraguay       84 
23  Saudi Arabia       84 
23  Solomon Islands       84 
23  Uganda       84 
23  United Arab Emirates       84 
23  Vanuatu       84 
23  Venezuela       84 
24  Algeria       83 
24  Bahrain       83 
24  Libya       83 
24  Oman       83 
24  Papua New Guinea       83 
24  Syria       83 
24  Tunisia       83 
25  Bangladesh       82 
25  Dominican Republic       82 
25  India       82 
25  Lebanon       82 
25  Madagascar       82 
25  Zimbabwe       82 
26  Egypt       81 
26  Honduras       81 
26  Maldives       81 
26  Nicaragua       81 
27  Barbados       80 
27  Bhutan       80 
27  El Salvador       80 
27  Kenya       80 
28  Guatemala       79 
28  Sri Lanka       79 
28  Zambia       79 
29  Congo, Democratic Republic of the       78 
29  Nepal       78 
29  Qatar       78 
30  Comoros       77 
30  South Africa       77 
31  Cape Verde       76 
31  Congo, Republic of the       76 
31  Mauritania       76 
31  Senegal       76 
32  Mali       74 
32  Namibia       74 
33  Ghana       73 
34  Tanzania       72 
35  Central African Republic       71 
35  Grenada       71 
35  Jamaica       71 
35  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines       71 
35  Sudan       71 
36  Antigua and Barbuda       70 
36  Benin       70 
36  Botswana       70 
36  Rwanda       70 
36  Togo       70 
37  Burundi       69 
37  Cote d'Ivoire       69 
37  Ethiopia       69 
37  Malawi       69 
37  Niger       69 
38  Angola       68 
38  Burkina Faso       68 
38  Chad       68 
38  Djibouti       68 
38  Somalia       68 
38  Swaziland       68 
39  Dominica       67 
39  Guinea       67 
39  Guinea-Bissau       67 
39  Haiti       67 
39  Lesotho       67 
39  Liberia       67 
39  Saint Kitts and Nevis       67 
39  Sao Tome and Principe       67 
40  Gambia, The       66 
41  Cameroon       64 
41  Gabon       64 
41  Mozambique       64 
42  Saint Lucia       62 
43  Equatorial Guinea       59 
North Korea       N/A 

Pakistan didn't rank very highly Karnal. Hubby wouldn't like that.
;D ;D


But higher than India, no?

This means, of course, that Muslims are smarter than Hindus, according to FD’s argument.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.


With Mr Hammer and James right down the bottom.
You've got your nickers in a knot because the world IQ ranking made your beloved minorities look bad. :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:31pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %
-------------   
1  Singapore       108 
2  South Korea       106 
3  Japan       105 
4  Italy       102 
5  Iceland       101 
5  Mongolia       101 
6  Switzerland       101 
7  Austria       100 
7  China       100 
7  Luxembourg       100 
7  Netherlands       100 
7  Norway       100 
7  United Kingdom       100 
8  Belgium       99 
8  Canada       99 
8  Estonia       99 
8  Finland       99 
8  Germany       99 
8  New Zealand       99 
8  Poland       99 
8  Sweden       99 
9  Andorra       98 
9  Australia       98 
9  Czech Republic 98 
9  Denmark       98 
9  France       98 
9  Hungary       98 
9  Latvia       98 
9  Spain       98 
9  United States       98 
10  Belarus       97 
10  Malta       97 
10  Russia       97 
10  Ukraine       97 
11  Moldova       96 
11  Slovakia       96 
11  Slovenia       96 
11  Uruguay       96 
12  Israel       95 
12  Portugal       95 
13  Armenia       94 
13  Georgia       94 
13  Kazakhstan       94 
13  Romania       94 
13  Vietnam       94 
14  Argentina       93 
14  Bulgaria       93 
15  Greece       92 
15  Ireland       92 
15  Malaysia       92 
16  Brunei       91 
16  Cambodia       91 
16  Cyprus       91 
16  FYROM       91 
16  Lithuania       91 
16  Sierra Leone       91 
16  Thailand       91 
17  Albania       90 
17  Bosnia and Herzegovina       90 
17  Chile       90 
17  Croatia       90 
17  Kyrgyzstan       90 
17  Turkey       90 
18  Cook Islands       89 
18  Costa Rica       89 
18  Laos       89 
18  Mauritius       89 
18  Serbia       89 
18  Suriname       89 
19  Ecuador       88 
19  Mexico       88 
19  Samoa       88 
20  Azerbaijan       87 
20  Bolivia       87 
20  Brazil       87 
20  Guyana       87 
20  Indonesia       87 
20  Iraq       87 
20  Myanmar (Burma)  87 
20  Tajikistan       87 
20  Turkmenistan       87 
20  Uzbekistan       87 
21  Kuwait       86 
21  Philippines       86 
21  Seychelles       86 
21  Tonga       86 
22  Cuba       85 
22  Eritrea       85 
22  Fiji       85 
22  Kiribati       85 
22  Peru       85 
22  Trinidad and Tobago       85 
22  Yemen       85 
23  Afghanistan       84 
23  Bahamas, The       84 
23  Belize       84 
23  Colombia       84 
23  Iran       84 
23  Jordan       84 
23  Marshall Islands       84 
23  Micronesia, Federated States of       84 
23  Morocco       84 
23  Nigeria       84 
23  Pakistan       84 
23  Panama       84 
23  Paraguay       84 
23  Saudi Arabia       84 
23  Solomon Islands       84 
23  Uganda       84 
23  United Arab Emirates       84 
23  Vanuatu       84 
23  Venezuela       84 
24  Algeria       83 
24  Bahrain       83 
24  Libya       83 
24  Oman       83 
24  Papua New Guinea       83 
24  Syria       83 
24  Tunisia       83 
25  Bangladesh       82 
25  Dominican Republic       82 
25  India       82 
25  Lebanon       82 
25  Madagascar       82 
25  Zimbabwe       82 
26  Egypt       81 
26  Honduras       81 
26  Maldives       81 
26  Nicaragua       81 
27  Barbados       80 
27  Bhutan       80 
27  El Salvador       80 
27  Kenya       80 
28  Guatemala       79 
28  Sri Lanka       79 
28  Zambia       79 
29  Congo, Democratic Republic of the       78 
29  Nepal       78 
29  Qatar       78 
30  Comoros       77 
30  South Africa       77 
31  Cape Verde       76 
31  Congo, Republic of the       76 
31  Mauritania       76 
31  Senegal       76 
32  Mali       74 
32  Namibia       74 
33  Ghana       73 
34  Tanzania       72 
35  Central African Republic       71 
35  Grenada       71 
35  Jamaica       71 
35  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines       71 
35  Sudan       71 
36  Antigua and Barbuda       70 
36  Benin       70 
36  Botswana       70 
36  Rwanda       70 
36  Togo       70 
37  Burundi       69 
37  Cote d'Ivoire       69 
37  Ethiopia       69 
37  Malawi       69 
37  Niger       69 
38  Angola       68 
38  Burkina Faso       68 
38  Chad       68 
38  Djibouti       68 
38  Somalia       68 
38  Swaziland       68 
39  Dominica       67 
39  Guinea       67 
39  Guinea-Bissau       67 
39  Haiti       67 
39  Lesotho       67 
39  Liberia       67 
39  Saint Kitts and Nevis       67 
39  Sao Tome and Principe       67 
40  Gambia, The       66 
41  Cameroon       64 
41  Gabon       64 
41  Mozambique       64 
42  Saint Lucia       62 
43  Equatorial Guinea       59 
North Korea       N/A 

Pakistan didn't rank very highly Karnal. Hubby wouldn't like that.
;D ;D


But higher than India, no?

This means, of course, that Muslims are smarter than Hindus, according to FD’s argument.

It is a jolly world, no?
But higher than the lebbos dear. The homies around Granville won't be happy. Some poor underpaid 7/11 worker is going to get bashed now.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:32pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.


With Mr Hammer and James right down the bottom.
You've got your nickers in a knot because the world IQ ranking made your beloved minorities look bad.


I'm amused, because in your effort to show that 1.6 billion people have a low IQ, you have demonstrated that your own IQ is somewhat lower than all of them.

Not knowing the difference between an IQ score, percentage, and percentile is embarrassing enough, but then when shown the error you still tried to say you were right.

This has been a spectacular own goal.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.


With Mr Hammer and James right down the bottom.
You've got your nickers in a knot because the world IQ ranking made your beloved minorities look bad.


I'm amused, because in your effort to show that 1.6 billion people have a low IQ, you have demonstrated that your own IQ is somewhat lower than all of them.

Not knowing the difference between an IQ score, percentage, and percentile is embarrassing enough, but then when shown the error you still tried to say you were right.

This has been a spectacular own goal.
I'm bored with arguing with you. The graph is an average IQ score of each country put into a world ranking. The average IQ is the IQ figure that comes up the most in each country. That's all  you need to learn dumbo.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %
-------------   
1  Singapore       108 
2  South Korea       106 
3  Japan       105 
4  Italy       102 
5  Iceland       101 
5  Mongolia       101 
6  Switzerland       101 
7  Austria       100 
7  China       100 
7  Luxembourg       100 
7  Netherlands       100 
7  Norway       100 
7  United Kingdom       100 
8  Belgium       99 
8  Canada       99 
8  Estonia       99 
8  Finland       99 
8  Germany       99 
8  New Zealand       99 
8  Poland       99 
8  Sweden       99 
9  Andorra       98 
9  Australia       98 
9  Czech Republic 98 
9  Denmark       98 
9  France       98 
9  Hungary       98 
9  Latvia       98 
9  Spain       98 
9  United States       98 
10  Belarus       97 
10  Malta       97 
10  Russia       97 
10  Ukraine       97 
11  Moldova       96 
11  Slovakia       96 
11  Slovenia       96 
11  Uruguay       96 
12  Israel       95 
12  Portugal       95 
13  Armenia       94 
13  Georgia       94 
13  Kazakhstan       94 
13  Romania       94 
13  Vietnam       94 
14  Argentina       93 
14  Bulgaria       93 
15  Greece       92 
15  Ireland       92 
15  Malaysia       92 
16  Brunei       91 
16  Cambodia       91 
16  Cyprus       91 
16  FYROM       91 
16  Lithuania       91 
16  Sierra Leone       91 
16  Thailand       91 
17  Albania       90 
17  Bosnia and Herzegovina       90 
17  Chile       90 
17  Croatia       90 
17  Kyrgyzstan       90 
17  Turkey       90 
18  Cook Islands       89 
18  Costa Rica       89 
18  Laos       89 
18  Mauritius       89 
18  Serbia       89 
18  Suriname       89 
19  Ecuador       88 
19  Mexico       88 
19  Samoa       88 
20  Azerbaijan       87 
20  Bolivia       87 
20  Brazil       87 
20  Guyana       87 
20  Indonesia       87 
20  Iraq       87 
20  Myanmar (Burma)  87 
20  Tajikistan       87 
20  Turkmenistan       87 
20  Uzbekistan       87 
21  Kuwait       86 
21  Philippines       86 
21  Seychelles       86 
21  Tonga       86 
22  Cuba       85 
22  Eritrea       85 
22  Fiji       85 
22  Kiribati       85 
22  Peru       85 
22  Trinidad and Tobago       85 
22  Yemen       85 
23  Afghanistan       84 
23  Bahamas, The       84 
23  Belize       84 
23  Colombia       84 
23  Iran       84 
23  Jordan       84 
23  Marshall Islands       84 
23  Micronesia, Federated States of       84 
23  Morocco       84 
23  Nigeria       84 
23  Pakistan       84 
23  Panama       84 
23  Paraguay       84 
23  Saudi Arabia       84 
23  Solomon Islands       84 
23  Uganda       84 
23  United Arab Emirates       84 
23  Vanuatu       84 
23  Venezuela       84 
24  Algeria       83 
24  Bahrain       83 
24  Libya       83 
24  Oman       83 
24  Papua New Guinea       83 
24  Syria       83 
24  Tunisia       83 
25  Bangladesh       82 
25  Dominican Republic       82 
25  India       82 
25  Lebanon       82 
25  Madagascar       82 
25  Zimbabwe       82 
26  Egypt       81 
26  Honduras       81 
26  Maldives       81 
26  Nicaragua       81 
27  Barbados       80 
27  Bhutan       80 
27  El Salvador       80 
27  Kenya       80 
28  Guatemala       79 
28  Sri Lanka       79 
28  Zambia       79 
29  Congo, Democratic Republic of the       78 
29  Nepal       78 
29  Qatar       78 
30  Comoros       77 
30  South Africa       77 
31  Cape Verde       76 
31  Congo, Republic of the       76 
31  Mauritania       76 
31  Senegal       76 
32  Mali       74 
32  Namibia       74 
33  Ghana       73 
34  Tanzania       72 
35  Central African Republic       71 
35  Grenada       71 
35  Jamaica       71 
35  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines       71 
35  Sudan       71 
36  Antigua and Barbuda       70 
36  Benin       70 
36  Botswana       70 
36  Rwanda       70 
36  Togo       70 
37  Burundi       69 
37  Cote d'Ivoire       69 
37  Ethiopia       69 
37  Malawi       69 
37  Niger       69 
38  Angola       68 
38  Burkina Faso       68 
38  Chad       68 
38  Djibouti       68 
38  Somalia       68 
38  Swaziland       68 
39  Dominica       67 
39  Guinea       67 
39  Guinea-Bissau       67 
39  Haiti       67 
39  Lesotho       67 
39  Liberia       67 
39  Saint Kitts and Nevis       67 
39  Sao Tome and Principe       67 
40  Gambia, The       66 
41  Cameroon       64 
41  Gabon       64 
41  Mozambique       64 
42  Saint Lucia       62 
43  Equatorial Guinea       59 
North Korea       N/A 

Pakistan didn't rank very highly Karnal. Hubby wouldn't like that.
;D ;D


But higher than India, no?

This means, of course, that Muslims are smarter than Hindus, according to FD’s argument.

It is a jolly world, no?
But higher than the lebbos dear. The homies around Granville won't be happy. Some poor underpaid 7/11 worker is going to get bashed now.


The Lebbos here are majority Coptic Christian, Homo.

How do you correlate national IQ estimates with religious groupings inside a country?

Even FD’s stumped by that one, and he’s a newly converted racialist.

You?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:40pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:22pm:
81.

That must be the cumulative value of several Muslims together, I just cant see any one of them breaking single digits.

After all what sort of a brain dead m0ron believes that rubbish and then blows themselves up to get some virgins.
And what do they think happens after they have sex.....they are no longer virgins.

But with such low IQs they would have difficulty extrapolating this little gem.
The table seems to show the blackies are the dumbest followed by the sand naggers. That explains everything.


With Mr Hammer and James right down the bottom.
You've got your nickers in a knot because the world IQ ranking made your beloved minorities look bad.


I'm amused, because in your effort to show that 1.6 billion people have a low IQ, you have demonstrated that your own IQ is somewhat lower than all of them.

Not knowing the difference between an IQ score, percentage, and percentile is embarrassing enough, but then when shown the error you still tried to say you were right.

This has been a spectacular own goal.
I'm bored with arguing with you. The graph is an average IQ score of each country put into a world ranking. 


That's correct.

It's not a percentage.

You got there, eventually.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
The average IQ is the IQ figure that comes up the most in each country. That's all  you need to learn dumbo



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are you trying to prove that you're dumber than everyone else on that list? That's not what an average is you fool. In fact, it could very well be that NO ONE scored 81  :D :D :D :D


an average is the sum of a list of numbers divided by the number of numbers in the list.

:D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
I'm bored with arguing with you.


I'm not surprised.

You don't have an argument.

They are IQ scores, not percentages (or percentiles).


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
I'm bored with arguing with you.


I'm not surprised.

You don't have an argument.

They are IQ scores, not percentages (or percentiles).
This is a percentile band. It's group of percentages within 100% where most scores were located. It's in percentages hence the name  percentile range. e.g 40% scored an average IQ of 83. At uni we put figures  into a bell curve and then worked out the standard deviation. It shows where most scores are located and the average is properly worked out. Understand now. I'm not the best statistician but I understand the basics.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:03pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
The average IQ is the IQ figure that comes up the most in each country. That's all  you need to learn dumbo



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are you trying to prove that you're dumber than everyone else on that list? That's not what an average is you fool. In fact, it could very well be that NO ONE scored 81  :D :D :D :D


an average is the sum of a list of numbers divided by the number of numbers in the list.

:D :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. So you believe they work out proper averages with year 7 maths. What a retard!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:06pm
Hammer, if 81 is their mean IQ, what is their nice IQ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
So you believe they work out proper averages with year 7 maths. What a retard!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin



no, i believe the invented a whole new system of working out averages just for this specific case.  :D :D :D

you're an id iot

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:06pm:
Hammer, if 81 is their mean IQ, what is their nice IQ?


Good point, FD. That is exactly what we need to measure.

No worries, we can calculate this accurately using the percentage of inferior negroid genes in the Arab racial hybrid. The doctor is working on it as we speak.

His article comes out next month in the prestigious Scientific Ubermenschen.

Do you subscribe?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:20pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
So you believe they work out proper averages with year 7 maths. What a retard!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin



no, i believe the invented a whole new system of working out averages just for this specific case.  :D :D :D

you're an id iot


You can say idiot now, JS. FD lifted the ban when Matty converted him to the older sub-intelligence criteria.

We’re currently working on a humane way to terminate them.

Sprint’s heading the committee.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:21pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:06pm:
Hammer, if 81 is their mean IQ, what is their nice IQ?



69  :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:23pm
Moron.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!



no, no ... I already told you, they worked out a whole new method of doing averages just for this test  :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:29pm
So did pecca!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What are pair of dummies!!!

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:33pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!



no, no ... I already told you, they worked out a whole new method of doing averages just for this test  :D :D
If they did what you thought they did it would be wrong. Some people have IQs of 170 and within the same population some have IQs of 80. When the difference is put together it gives a false reading. You have no idea. What a dummy. Go back to renting out slums to ethnics.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!


Which scores, Homo? Has the government tested you yet?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Some people have IQs of 170 and within the same population some have IQs of 80. When the difference is put together it gives a false reading.



really? I didn't know that  :D :D :D

you know you just proved the whole thread is a load of sh1t?  ;D ;D ;D

thanks for playing

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!


Which scores, Homo? Has the government tested you yet?
So you agree with Smith?? The retards are lining up today. I thought you knew about stats  in your make believe job??

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!


Which scores, Homo? Has the government tested you yet?


he was tested a long time ago ... they gave him a piece of fruit in a paper bag... he threw out the fruit and ate the bag :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Honky on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:46pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!


Which scores, Homo? Has the government tested you yet?


he was tested a long time ago ... they gave him a piece of fruit in a paper bag... he threw out the fruit and ate the bag :D :D
The only test you've had is an AIDS test Smith.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:11pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
The only test you've had is an AIDS test Smith.



only after you gave me a blow job

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:13pm

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf


Why don't you put your score up Honky

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Honky on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:31pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf


Why don't you put your score up Honky



I might.  What range do you think it might be in?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:35pm

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf


Why don't you put your score up Honky



I might.  What range do you think it might be in?


no idea.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf


Why don't you put your score up Honky



I might.  What range do you think it might be in?
I betcha Honky scored higher than Smithy.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm
666

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:52pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm:
I betcha Honky scored higher than Smithy



I noticed you're not willing to bet that YOU scored higher.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:53pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Why don't you take the test and see?

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf


Why don't you put your score up Honky



I might.  What range do you think it might be in?
I betcha Honky scored higher than Smithy.



Percent?     ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:55pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm:
I betcha Honky scored higher than Smithy



I noticed you're not willing to bet that YOU scored higher.  ;D ;D ;D
I got 110 but I'm bad with shapes. If you do the test you'll see what I'm talking about at the end. It shows how IQ is constructed. You might learn something Pecca and Slumlord.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:55pm
666

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 4:38pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
John Smith believes national average IQs are worked out buy adding the scores together and dividing it by the number tested!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WHAT A RETARD!!!!


Which scores, Homo? Has the government tested you yet?


he was tested a long time ago ... they gave him a piece of fruit in a paper bag... he threw out the fruit and ate the bag :D :D


Good to know. So Homo’s test score is the one we’re all going on?

By the way, what was it, Homo?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 4:39pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 2:51pm:
I betcha Honky scored higher than Smithy



I noticed you're not willing to bet that YOU scored higher.  ;D ;D ;D
I got 110 but I'm bad with shapes. If you do the test you'll see what I'm talking about at the end. It shows how IQ is constructed. You might learn something Pecca and Slumlord.


Thanks, Homo. And the government has this, right?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 6:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score.


 
Rank
--------    Country
-----------------------    %
-------------   
1  Singapore       108 
2  South Korea       106 
3  Japan       105 
4  Italy       102 
5  Iceland       101 
5  Mongolia       101 
6  Switzerland       101 
7  Austria       100 
7  China       100 
7  Luxembourg       100 
7  Netherlands       100 
7  Norway       100 
7  United Kingdom       100 
8  Belgium       99 
8  Canada       99 
8  Estonia       99 
8  Finland       99 
8  Germany       99 
8  New Zealand       99 
8  Poland       99 
8  Sweden       99 
9  Andorra       98 
9  Australia       98 
9  Czech Republic 98 
9  Denmark       98 
9  France       98 
9  Hungary       98 
9  Latvia       98 
9  Spain       98 
9  United States       98 
10  Belarus       97 
10  Malta       97 
10  Russia       97 
10  Ukraine       97 
11  Moldova       96 
11  Slovakia       96 
11  Slovenia       96 
11  Uruguay       96 
12  Israel       95 
12  Portugal       95 
13  Armenia       94 
13  Georgia       94 
13  Kazakhstan       94 
13  Romania       94 
13  Vietnam       94 
14  Argentina       93 
14  Bulgaria       93 
15  Greece       92 
15  Ireland       92 
15  Malaysia       92 
16  Brunei       91 
16  Cambodia       91 
16  Cyprus       91 
16  FYROM       91 
16  Lithuania       91 
16  Sierra Leone       91 
16  Thailand       91 
17  Albania       90 
17  Bosnia and Herzegovina       90 
17  Chile       90 
17  Croatia       90 
17  Kyrgyzstan       90 
17  Turkey       90 
18  Cook Islands       89 
18  Costa Rica       89 
18  Laos       89 
18  Mauritius       89 
18  Serbia       89 
18  Suriname       89 
19  Ecuador       88 
19  Mexico       88 
19  Samoa       88 
20  Azerbaijan       87 
20  Bolivia       87 
20  Brazil       87 
20  Guyana       87 
20  Indonesia       87 
20  Iraq       87 
20  Myanmar (Burma)  87 
20  Tajikistan       87 
20  Turkmenistan       87 
20  Uzbekistan       87 
21  Kuwait       86 
21  Philippines       86 
21  Seychelles       86 
21  Tonga       86 
22  Cuba       85 
22  Eritrea       85 
22  Fiji       85 
22  Kiribati       85 
22  Peru       85 
22  Trinidad and Tobago       85 
22  Yemen       85 
23  Afghanistan       84 
23  Bahamas, The       84 
23  Belize       84 
23  Colombia       84 
23  Iran       84 
23  Jordan       84 
23  Marshall Islands       84 
23  Micronesia, Federated States of       84 
23  Morocco       84 
23  Nigeria       84 
23  Pakistan       84 
23  Panama       84 
23  Paraguay       84 
23  Saudi Arabia       84 
23  Solomon Islands       84 
23  Uganda       84 
23  United Arab Emirates       84 
23  Vanuatu       84 
23  Venezuela       84 
24  Algeria       83 
24  Bahrain       83 
24  Libya       83 
24  Oman       83 
24  Papua New Guinea       83 
24  Syria       83 
24  Tunisia       83 
25  Bangladesh       82 
25  Dominican Republic       82 
25  India       82 
25  Lebanon       82 
25  Madagascar       82 
25  Zimbabwe       82 
26  Egypt       81 
26  Honduras       81 
26  Maldives       81 
26  Nicaragua       81 
27  Barbados       80 
27  Bhutan       80 
27  El Salvador       80 
27  Kenya       80 
28  Guatemala       79 
28  Sri Lanka       79 
28  Zambia       79 
29  Congo, Democratic Republic of the       78 
29  Nepal       78 
29  Qatar       78 
30  Comoros       77 
30  South Africa       77 
31  Cape Verde       76 
31  Congo, Republic of the       76 
31  Mauritania       76 
31  Senegal       76 
32  Mali       74 
32  Namibia       74 
33  Ghana       73 
34  Tanzania       72 
35  Central African Republic       71 
35  Grenada       71 
35  Jamaica       71 
35  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines       71 
35  Sudan       71 
36  Antigua and Barbuda       70 
36  Benin       70 
36  Botswana       70 
36  Rwanda       70 
36  Togo       70 
37  Burundi       69 
37  Cote d'Ivoire       69 
37  Ethiopia       69 
37  Malawi       69 
37  Niger       69 
38  Angola       68 
38  Burkina Faso       68 
38  Chad       68 
38  Djibouti       68 
38  Somalia       68 
38  Swaziland       68 
39  Dominica       67 
39  Guinea       67 
39  Guinea-Bissau       67 
39  Haiti       67 
39  Lesotho       67 
39  Liberia       67 
39  Saint Kitts and Nevis       67 
39  Sao Tome and Principe       67 
40  Gambia, The       66 
41  Cameroon       64 
41  Gabon       64 
41  Mozambique       64 
42  Saint Lucia       62 
43  Equatorial Guinea       59 
North Korea       N/A 

Pakistan didn't rank very highly Karnal. Hubby wouldn't like that.
;D ;D


But higher than India, no?

This means, of course, that Muslims are smarter than Hindus, according to FD’s argument.

It is a jolly world, no?


Pakistan have manage to get on the list with a whole 84. ;D

Impressive.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 6:55pm
Sterilize them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 17th, 2016 at 7:01pm
If one can't debate, then troll, that will raise you an IQ level won't it. ::)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:13pm

"%"    ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:16pm
The gypos must be stupid because even the lebbos are smarter.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
The gypos must be stupid because even the lebbos are smarter.


And all are smarter than you.

"%"    ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
The gypos must be stupid because even the lebbos are smarter.


And all are smarter than you.

"%"    ;D
Post your own IQ score from the test.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:50pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


If they were kept compartmentalised and to the level of a mere curiosity it would be ok, but they're the scaffolding upon which their entire culture rests.
It's all they read..one book...one old sh!tty book.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


Except that this doesn’t have Anything to do with Muhammed. It has to do with the descendants of African.Sex slaves and levels of tintedness.

Haven’t you read the article either?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:35am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


Except that this doesn’t have Anything to do with Muhammed. It has to do with the descendants of African.Sex slaves and levels of tintedness.

Haven’t you read the article either?



It's amazing how many of the posters on her arguing hat "Muslims" have a mean IQ of 81(% ... it's still funny) haven't actually read the article or associated work of Templer.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 8:42am
Best they keep it that way, Mother.

We’ll tell them what not to think, eh?

Google: taqiyya.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 18th, 2016 at 9:28am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 8:42am:
Best they keep it that way, Mother.

We’ll tell them what not to think, eh?

Google: taqiyya.


I thought taqiyya was only part of Shia culture.
I think someone's lied to you,  Karnal.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 9:56am
Havent seen this thread before. Now looking at it, I think either the study is completely made up or the methodology is flawed.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18am

mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:35am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


Except that this doesn’t have Anything to do with Muhammed. It has to do with the descendants of African.Sex slaves and levels of tintedness.

Haven’t you read the article either?



It's amazing how many of the posters on her arguing hat "Muslims" have a mean IQ of 81(% ... it's still funny) haven't actually read the article or associated work of Templer.


Well, if your highest level of mental exertion for generations is memorising the Koran and your entire cultural memory is about rigid conformity to every minute rule set down by your religion then it's no wonder you are not very good at problem solving in unexpected situations.




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:26am

GordyL wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 8:42am:
Best they keep it that way, Mother.

We’ll tell them what not to think, eh?

Google: taqiyya.


I thought taqiyya was only part of Shia culture.
I think someone's lied to you,  Karnal.


That's highly possible, Gordy.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Honky on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:27am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 9:56am:
Havent seen this thread before. Now looking at it, I think either the study is completely made up or the methodology is flawed.


Flawed in what way?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am

Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18am:

mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:35am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:45pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:43pm:
Submitting to Mohammed is stupid. You can't be taken seriously if you take Mohammed seriously.

It just doesn't stand up to even a cursory examination. If you think Mohammed is not a complete fraud you are not be taken seriously.  Mohammedan doctrines are just silly and fraudulent and mad on every level.


Except that this doesn’t have Anything to do with Muhammed. It has to do with the descendants of African.Sex slaves and levels of tintedness.

Haven’t you read the article either?



It's amazing how many of the posters on her arguing hat "Muslims" have a mean IQ of 81(% ... it's still funny) haven't actually read the article or associated work of Templer.


Well, if your highest level of mental exertion for generations is memorising the Koran and your entire cultural memory is about rigid conformity to every minute rule set down by your religion then it's no wonder you are not very good at problem solving in unexpected situations.


Good points, Frank, but I'd say Arab culture is hardly characterized by rigid conformity - Persian (Iranian) culture even less so. These cultures are doggedly individualistic. They always question rules and regulations - ever been to an Arab mechanic?

Malays and Indonesians are different - South East Asian cultures are much more conformist and community focused.

There's an interesting study on the influence of wheat-based diets versus rice-based diets. It found those who got their carbs from bread (the Middle East) are more individualistic than those who get their carbs from rice (South East Asians). There was no cultural bias in the study as it was all done in China.

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:59am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?

Depends which tests, pattern based tests such as the one posted in this thread are generally held to be culturally unbiased.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:00am
Yet at the end of the day the FACT is muslims have low iQ's with impaired cognitive ability. Even the average level of IQ from a muslim majority country is the same.

Those facts are undisputed from numerous sources.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:00am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.
Incorrect grammar or pronounciation is not a definition of IQ.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:02am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Yet at the end of the day the FACT is muslims have low iQ's with impaired cognitive ability. Even the average level of IQ from a muslim majority country is the same.

Those facts are undisputed from numerous sources.
Yes. And no one thus far is addressing these facts, just attempting to shoot the messenger.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:02am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.


Hence the low IQ displayed here in this post. We should all run out and memorize the quran ;D ;D ;D.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:08am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


Indeed.

And don't forget "81%".


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?

Depends which tests, pattern based tests such as the one posted in this thread are generally held to be culturally unbiased.



True, but in this case which was the one used. And I know IQ and grammar are unrelated. I just enjoy the irony of the post.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ? ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:10am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Yet at the end of the day the FACT is muslims have low iQ's with impaired cognitive ability. Even the average level of IQ from a muslim majority country is the same.

Those facts are undisputed from numerous sources.





Anyone with low IQ is generally held to have lower cognitive ability. Even Donald Trump.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:11am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ? ;D



Ummm, no.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:16am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ?


You should have quit while you were behind.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:20am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:10am:

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Yet at the end of the day the FACT is muslims have low iQ's with impaired cognitive ability. Even the average level of IQ from a muslim majority country is the same.

Those facts are undisputed from numerous sources.





Anyone with low IQ is generally held to have lower cognitive ability. Even Donald Trump.



Yes; that is after all, what I said.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:21am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ? ;D



Ummm, no.


So if a population is all muslim it is not a muslim population, ;D ;D ;D .

Oooookayyy...

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:22am

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.




Danger of stating this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:23am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:21am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ? ;D



Ummm, no.


So if a population is all muslim it is not a muslim population, ;D ;D ;D .

Oooookayyy...


No it was about the use of the term Muslim's with an apostrophe.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:29am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:21am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Also I'd like to point out the irony of a post having a dig about the low IQ of a population whilst spelling it as Muslim's.


So there are no muslim populations is that what you are saying ? ;D



Ummm, no.


So if a population is all muslim it is not a muslim population, ;D ;D ;D .

Oooookayyy...


No it was about the use of the term Muslim's with an apostrophe.


Is that what all the drama is about , my goodness.::)

So tell us where you get your information Donald Trump has a low IQ , this should be good.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:30am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:22am:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.




Danger of stating this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
Theres nothing in that article which negates my statements.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:31am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
Good points, Frank, but I'd say Arab culture is hardly characterized by rigid conformity - Persian (Iranian) culture even less so. These cultures are doggedly individualistic. They always question rules and regulations - ever been to an Arab mechanic?

Malays and Indonesians are different - South East Asian cultures are much more conformist and community focused.

There's an interesting study on the influence of wheat-based diets versus rice-based diets. It found those who got their carbs from bread (the Middle East) are more individualistic than those who get their carbs from rice (South East Asians). There was no cultural bias in the study as it was all done in China.

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.



Fascinating, Sir Humphrey.  It explains why Muslim Arabs are such over-achievers in the arts, humanities, science and technological innovation. I often wondered why it was so but now I wonder no more - it's the wheat and memorising the Koran.


Thanks.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:31am
Ever met a muslm that struck you as having high intelligence ?

Be serious now.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:32am

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:30am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:22am:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.




Danger of stating this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
Theres nothing in that article which negates my statements.



No, it just means thinking a tad harder.


Also tends to indicate as well IQ and measurement of it is multifactorial, not just genetics, not just environment.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:32am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:31am:
Ever met a muslm that struck you as having high intelligence ?

Be serious now.




Yep, my GP

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:33am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?


IQ tests measure the literate. The IQ test was designed in the early 20th century to test for intellectual disability. "Mor-ons, idiots, subnormals", etc.

The IQ test has subsequently been adapted to test the "normal". Psychologists now use WISC and Weschler to test cognitive/intellectual functioning.

You can't properly assess illiterate people using IQ tests. Theoretically, this doesn't mean the illiterate would have low IQs, but this is highly likely based on the focus of the test.

IQs change over time. As we've become more of a knowledge-based information society, IQ scores have risen accordingly. Our grandparents had far lower IQs. Agrarian cultures have lower IQs. This is because they don't use abstract reasoning as much as those in the cities.

The same applies to countries. Developing countries have no way of testing their citizens on mass, but depending on their economies, they would have lower IQs as a matter of course. Service economies have higher IQ levels because they perform more abstract reasoning. They have better schools, better internet coverage, better information systems.

When an economy develops, IQ develops accordingly, but the gulf states are an interesting enigma. Oman has the highest GDP per capita in the world, but it still has low national IQ estimates based on the data from Wikipedia.

The Gulf states have developed using foreign planning and foreign labour. The capital, however, is still in Arab hands. Saudi finance kept the rest of the world afloat through the 1970s and 80s. It's responsible for much of the development of South East Asia and Latin America.

This fact alone calls Templer's thesis to question. Templer's work - starting with African American poverty and IQ - can't be applied to the rich Gulf states. The wealth of the Gulf states alone blows out Templer's thesis that skin pigmentation is the biggest predictor of IQ levels.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:34am

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:31am:
Ever met a muslm that struck you as having high intelligence ?

Be serious now.


Quite a few.

Have you ever met a Muslim?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.


Abstract reasoning is left brain, Ian. The left brain processes maths and language. The right brain processes memory and special awareness.

And yes, low Aboriginal IQ levels might show that historically non-literate cultures have a tendency towards low IQ. But if you pay any attention to the psychologists who administer these sorts of tests, intergenerational poverty and trauma are the key causes of low levels of abstract reasoning.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:53am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:33am:
When an economy develops, IQ develops accordingly, but the gulf states are an interesting enigma. Oman has the highest GDP per capita in the world, but it still has low national IQ estimates based on the data from Wikipedia.



I bet it's because they don't eat enough wheat and don't memorise the Koran conscientiously enough.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:56am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?


IQ tests measure the literate. The IQ test was designed in the early 20th century to test for intellectual disability. "Mor-ons, idiots, subnormals", etc.

The IQ test has subsequently been adapted to test the "normal". Psychologists now use WISC and Weschler to test cognitive/intellectual functioning.

You can't properly assess illiterate people using IQ tests. Theoretically, this doesn't mean the illiterate would have low IQs, but this is highly likely based on the focus of the test.

IQs change over time. As we've become more of a knowledge-based information society, IQ scores have risen accordingly. Our grandparents had far lower IQs. Agrarian cultures have lower IQs. This is because they don't use abstract reasoning as much as those in the cities.

The same applies to countries. Developing countries have no way of testing their citizens on mass, but depending on their economies, they would have lower IQs as a matter of course. Service economies have higher IQ levels because they perform more abstract reasoning. They have better schools, better internet coverage, better information systems.

When an economy develops, IQ develops accordingly, but the gulf states are an interesting enigma. Oman has the highest GDP per capita in the world, but it still has low national IQ estimates based on the data from Wikipedia.

The Gulf states have developed using foreign planning and foreign labour. The capital, however, is still in Arab hands. Saudi finance kept the rest of the world afloat through the 1970s and 80s. It's responsible for much of the development of South East Asia and Latin America.

This fact alone calls Templer's thesis to question. Templer's work - starting with African American poverty and IQ - can't be applied to the rich Gulf states. The wealth of the Gulf states alone blows out Templer's thesis that skin pigmentation is the biggest predictor of IQ levels.


I agree with you on all of this. Do you think preference towards reading one particular book plays a part in countries like Oman from being represented in the publishing of scientific papers or lodgement of patents?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:59am
Whats their R and D budget like?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:03pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.


Abstract reasoning is left brain, Ian. The left brain processes maths and language. The right brain processes memory and special awareness.

And yes, low Aboriginal IQ levels might show that historically non-literate cultures have a tendency towards low IQ. But if you pay any attention to the psychologists who administer these sorts of tests, intergenerational poverty and trauma are the key causes of low levels of abstract reasoning.
And? you stated IQ tests measure only left brain ability, they dont.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:39pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:56am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?


IQ tests measure the literate. The IQ test was designed in the early 20th century to test for intellectual disability. "Mor-ons, idiots, subnormals", etc.

The IQ test has subsequently been adapted to test the "normal". Psychologists now use WISC and Weschler to test cognitive/intellectual functioning.

You can't properly assess illiterate people using IQ tests. Theoretically, this doesn't mean the illiterate would have low IQs, but this is highly likely based on the focus of the test.

IQs change over time. As we've become more of a knowledge-based information society, IQ scores have risen accordingly. Our grandparents had far lower IQs. Agrarian cultures have lower IQs. This is because they don't use abstract reasoning as much as those in the cities.

The same applies to countries. Developing countries have no way of testing their citizens on mass, but depending on their economies, they would have lower IQs as a matter of course. Service economies have higher IQ levels because they perform more abstract reasoning. They have better schools, better internet coverage, better information systems.

When an economy develops, IQ develops accordingly, but the gulf states are an interesting enigma. Oman has the highest GDP per capita in the world, but it still has low national IQ estimates based on the data from Wikipedia.

The Gulf states have developed using foreign planning and foreign labour. The capital, however, is still in Arab hands. Saudi finance kept the rest of the world afloat through the 1970s and 80s. It's responsible for much of the development of South East Asia and Latin America.

This fact alone calls Templer's thesis to question. Templer's work - starting with African American poverty and IQ - can't be applied to the rich Gulf states. The wealth of the Gulf states alone blows out Templer's thesis that skin pigmentation is the biggest predictor of IQ levels.


I agree with you on all of this. Do you think preference towards reading one particular book plays a part in countries like Oman from being represented in the publishing of scientific papers or lodgement of patents?


What makes you think people in Arab countries read only one book, Gordy? Do you really think every Arab is a devout, fundamentalist Muslim?

The Gulf states pipe oil out of the ground. Like Australia, they're resource economies. To my knowledge, they don't invest much in scientific research. Their populations are small. They import everything from Europe and the US. They even import their labour. The very existence of these countries comes down to oil. They were created by Britain and the US for that very purpose.

And sorry, Qatar has the highest GDP per capita, not Oman.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:47pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.


Abstract reasoning is left brain, Ian. The left brain processes maths and language. The right brain processes memory and special awareness.

And yes, low Aboriginal IQ levels might show that historically non-literate cultures have a tendency towards low IQ. But if you pay any attention to the psychologists who administer these sorts of tests, intergenerational poverty and trauma are the key causes of low levels of abstract reasoning.


No their not. I think its great a muslim is lecturing us on IQ. In fact I think its bloody hilarious ;D ;D ;D .

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:56am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Well we know IQ tests already are flawed towards the literate. Maybe illiteracy might be the case?


IQ tests measure the literate. The IQ test was designed in the early 20th century to test for intellectual disability. "Mor-ons, idiots, subnormals", etc.

The IQ test has subsequently been adapted to test the "normal". Psychologists now use WISC and Weschler to test cognitive/intellectual functioning.

You can't properly assess illiterate people using IQ tests. Theoretically, this doesn't mean the illiterate would have low IQs, but this is highly likely based on the focus of the test.

IQs change over time. As we've become more of a knowledge-based information society, IQ scores have risen accordingly. Our grandparents had far lower IQs. Agrarian cultures have lower IQs. This is because they don't use abstract reasoning as much as those in the cities.

The same applies to countries. Developing countries have no way of testing their citizens on mass, but depending on their economies, they would have lower IQs as a matter of course. Service economies have higher IQ levels because they perform more abstract reasoning. They have better schools, better internet coverage, better information systems.

When an economy develops, IQ develops accordingly, but the gulf states are an interesting enigma. Oman has the highest GDP per capita in the world, but it still has low national IQ estimates based on the data from Wikipedia.

The Gulf states have developed using foreign planning and foreign labour. The capital, however, is still in Arab hands. Saudi finance kept the rest of the world afloat through the 1970s and 80s. It's responsible for much of the development of South East Asia and Latin America.

This fact alone calls Templer's thesis to question. Templer's work - starting with African American poverty and IQ - can't be applied to the rich Gulf states. The wealth of the Gulf states alone blows out Templer's thesis that skin pigmentation is the biggest predictor of IQ levels.


I agree with you on all of this. Do you think preference towards reading one particular book plays a part in countries like Oman from being represented in the publishing of scientific papers or lodgement of patents?


What makes you think people in Arab countries read only one book, Gordy? Do you really think every Arab is a devout, fundamentalist Muslim?

The Gulf states pipe oil out of the ground. Like Australia, they're resource economies. To my knowledge, they don't invest much in scientific research. Their populations are small. They import everything from Europe and the US. They even import their labour. The very existence of these countries comes down to oil. They were created by Britain and the US for that very purpose.

And sorry, Qatar has the highest GDP per capita, not Oman.


Yeah I was going to pick you up on the Qatar thing but I'm not a nit picker  :D.

So lets forget IQ, what they read, how devout they are. What are your thoughts on such dismal numbers in relation to publishing of scientific papers and lodgement of patents?

That surely is a good measure of human endeavour?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:47pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:53am:
[

Things like memorizing the Koran actually raise IQ levels. IQ measures abstract reasoning, of which written language is a key component. Memorizing written text does not just improve memory, it makes you think with your left brain, which is what IQ measures.

Highly doubtful, Australian Aboriginals do not have a written language and relate thier entire histories from memory, yet culturally unbiased tests indicate they have amongst the lowest IQs of any racial group. Also IQ tests do not measure "left brain thinking" thats nonsense.


Abstract reasoning is left brain, Ian. The left brain processes maths and language. The right brain processes memory and special awareness.

And yes, low Aboriginal IQ levels might show that historically non-literate cultures have a tendency towards low IQ. But if you pay any attention to the psychologists who administer these sorts of tests, intergenerational poverty and trauma are the key causes of low levels of abstract reasoning.


No their not. I think its great a muslim is lecturing us on IQ. In fact I think its bloody hilarious .


Hilarious, indeed.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprsed gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:06pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:59am:
Whats their R and D budget like?


The Gulf states were developed almost solely by Uncle and Mother. Back in the 1970s, Saudi Arabia still had dirt roads and goats in the street.

This all changed with the Oil Shocks. To bring the Saudis on board, the US went in to pitch development. They lured the sheiks into massive development contracts. The aim was to get the Saudis into debt and make them totally dependent on the US.

It worked. The US brought the Saudis into the fold. This made Uncle the silent boss of the Arabian Gulf, and charged with the security of the region. Saudi wealth spread throughout the Gulf. Saudis like the bin Ladens became big property developers. The Gulf got shopping malls, car parks, condominiums, beach resorts and golf courses.   

But they didn't get scientific or industry investment. The Gulf has two sources of wealth: oil and property development. You could say it's a "two-tiered" economy, not unlike Australia.

This makes the Gulf subject to two risks: property bubbles and drops in the price of oil. Both of these have recently occurred, and Arab wealth is now at risk. This is being felt throughout the region. The Arab Spring (and its decline) is part of this. There has been a big political reaction in Egypt to the influence of Gulf states. The Saudis have gone further afield, influencing politics in places like Yemen.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:06pm
Kill them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:07pm
Karnal displaying his intellect again.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:39pm

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
Karnal displaying his intellect again.


Yep. Not much you can do but encourage maturity.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:42pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.
So, do you see your simple error in that sentence yet?   Go on, have a google.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Hilarious, indeed.


You're in no position to comment given your intellectual input displayed on ozpol .

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Hilarious, indeed.


You're in no position to comment .


Oh, I most certainly am.

Moreover, I will continue.

Mr "81%"   ;)


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:45pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Hilarious, indeed.


You're in no position to comment given your intellectual input displayed on ozpol .
Yes, hes the Jerry Serinfeld of OZPol but without the hunour. 39,000 posts about nothing.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:46pm

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.
So, do you see your simple error in that sentence yet?   Go on, have a google.


No, dear, would you like to inform moi?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:48pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.
So, do you see your simple error in that sentence yet?   Go on, have a google.


No, dear, would you like to inform moi?
Back in an hour. Time for a run. See if that gives you enough time to work it out.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:49pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.
So, do you see your simple error in that sentence yet?   Go on, have a google.


No, dear, would you like to inform moi?


I predict that he'll evade.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
With all due respect, James. That's a load of crap.


Indeed.

It's a "complete fabrication".


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
Karnal displaying his intellect again.


Yep. Not much you can do but encourage maturity.


True, Matty. And you're a good role model, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:06pm:
Hammer, if 81 is their mean IQ, what is their nice IQ?


81

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 11:41am:
  The right brain processes memory and special awareness.
Oh i missed this. im surprised gweggawy didnt pick this up. Can you see anything wrong with this sentence of Karnals gweggay? Try hard, anyone? What about you Karnal? See anything wrong there? With your massive intellect and all.

 

Anyone? looks like Karnal has run away.


I will always be with thee.
So, do you see your simple error in that sentence yet?   Go on, have a google.


No, dear, would you like to inform moi?


I predict that he'll evade.


it'll probably be something like there is no 'right brain' or 'left brain', it's all one brain ... just typical Ian proving he's a genius by stating the obvious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:26pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 1:06pm:
Hammer, if 81 is their mean IQ, what is their nice IQ?


81



"81%"    ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:40pm

Quote:
The right brain processes memory and special awareness.


Oh - here it is. I wrote special, not special. Good work, Ian.

Ian's reading skills are redeemed, leftards. Suck it up.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:45pm
That post was expected coming from someone with an IQ of less than 81 I guess.

The data from the demographics in this thread alone is great.

Between displaying high intellect, calling people muslims/matty and posting "Ban them" etc etc and a snigger here a snigger there.

The inability to analyze data and propose possible help or solutions clearly displays the intellectual cognitive disability. For someone of low IQ its easier to ignore the problem that acknowledge it.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:50pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
That post was expected coming from someone with an IQ of less than 81 I guess.

The data from the demographics in this thread alone is great.


Indeed.

"81%"

"hear"

"their"


etc.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:52pm
Why post at all you yellow bellied cowardly little man, all you do is look like a fool.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?


Quote:
It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:03pm

If in fact skin colour proved to highlight a person with higher IQ then that's just another fact that needs  to be accepted.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:07pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:52pm:
Why post at all .


To remind everyone of the delicious irony.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:12pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Quote:
The right brain processes memory and special awareness.


Oh - here it is. I wrote special, not special. Good work, Ian.

Ian's reading skills are redeemed, leftards. Suck it up.

Times up. The term is "spatial awareness" not "special awareness".

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:12pm
@Peccar #PeccartheVillageIdiot

The delicious irony that you are a ponce and not just a pest. Largely ignored by most. You are doing so well.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?


Quote:
It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?

No not all. nature and nurture, not nature versus nurture. But why am I lecturing you, with your "special awareness" and all. Lol.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:15pm
Don't you mean Speshal awareness ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:16pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
Don't you mean Speshal awareness ;D

gweggay didnt get it either, wonder if he has 'special awareness" Lol.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:16pm
No, Matty, Templer's data on skin colour, temperature and GDP disproves his entire thesis.

The biggest country in the world, India, has (according to Templer's data) a mean IQ of 82 - lower than the majority of Arab countries and Indonesia (the biggest Muslim country), which is 87.

Indians have the same skin-tone ranking Templer attributes to Arabs and similar average temperatures. It does, of course, have far lower GDP per capita than Arab countries (which include the rich Gulf states).

There are more Indians in the world than Muslims (and Arabs), and Indians score lower in all Templer's ratings.

Indeed, India's mean IQ is (according to Templer) two points lower than its neighbor Pakistan - a country almost identical in terms of skin colour and temperature.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:17pm

"81%"

"hear"

"their"




Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:47pm

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?


Quote:
It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?

No not all. nature and nurture, not nature versus nurture. But why am I lecturing you, with your "special awareness" and all. Lol.


But that's not what Templer's saying. And if you unpack his criteria, you'll find there are no cultural or economic similarities in the countries he describes. Templer himself makes the point that Gulf Arabs are more fundamentalist and rigid in their beliefs than Indonesians, who live in a country "where Mosques and Churches can be seen in close proximity to one another".

But all this is moot. Templer is getting at the racial genetics of Arabs, as demonstrated by this:


Quote:
There seems to be considerable historical and anecdotal evidence of interbreeding of Arabs and Blacks... [A] possibility is that persons of lower intelligence are more attracted to a religion characterized by authoritarian teaching, rote memorization, simplicity of dogma, and certainty than to abstract principles and critical thinking.


In other words, people are attracted to their beliefs based on their levels of tintedness. But what of Christianity, the other great religion to come out of the Arabian peninsular? Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


Quote:
If these religious characteristics do effect intelligence, one could... hypothesize lower intelligence in Catholicism than in Protestantism.


So as you can see, Templer is making judgments about religion based solely on his racial criteria, and why not? Most of Templer's references come straight from that crucible of racial ideas and "scientific" racism, the Journal of Mankind, the publication that publishes Templer.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:17pm
Put it all in the Wiki, FD. I blame Islam?

Not anymore.

I blame Arab interbreeding with genetically inferior negroid specimens.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:18pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
No, Matty, Templer's data on skin colour, temperature and GDP disproves his entire thesis.

The biggest country in the world, India, has (according to Templer's data) a mean IQ of 82 - lower than the majority of Arab countries and Indonesia (the biggest Muslim country), which is 87.

Indians have the same skin-tone ranking Templer attributes to Arabs and similar average temperatures. It does, of course, have far lower GDP per capita than Arab countries (which include the rich Gulf states).

There are more Indians in the world than Muslims (and Arabs), and Indians score lower in all Templer's ratings.

Indeed, India's mean IQ is (according to Templer) two points lower than its neighbor Pakistan - a country almost identical in terms of skin colour and temperature.

It is a jolly world, no?


Nice try but the muslim average IQ is still 81.

Whats with all this matty nonsense are you retarded ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:27pm

'Sir 81%' is in denial.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Honky on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:30pm
Whats yours greggery?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:33pm

... wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Whats yours greggery?


If he pushed over 40 I'd be surprised the guy is the mods pet retard.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:02pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Whats yours greggery?


If he pushed over 40 I'd be surprised the guy is the mods pet retard.


They wouldn't ban you, dear. You begged, remember?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:42pm

So far the Author has been attacked and his content and finding ignored. Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?

This may be the key to stopping the muslim way of think as far as violence and terrorism is concerned.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:49pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:42pm:
So far the Author has been attacked and his content and finding ignored. Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?

This may be the key to stopping the muslim way of think as far as violence and terrorism is concerned.


fly them to Australia  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:53pm
Why would you do that in their current state they are trashing their host nations, raping the women and violently abusing the host nations children in schools.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:58pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:53pm:
Why would you do that in their current state they are trashing their host nations, raping the women and violently abusing the host nations children in schools.


Yes, all 1.6 billion of them.

Similarly, 2.2 billion Christians are raping little boys.

You're a churchgoer, aren't you James?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:59pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:53pm:
Why would you do that in their current state they are trashing their host nations, raping the women and violently abusing the host nations children in schools.


you wanted to raise their IQ


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:01pm
Just the muslim immigrants in every single country they have entered. That's why existing muslim countries don't want them and only the gullible ones take them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:09pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:01pm:
Just the muslim immigrants in every single country they have entered. That's why existing muslim countries don't want them and only the gullible ones take them.


but the IQ of those in other countries average the same as yours .... you had a problem with muslims in the middle east, as they were averaging 81.  You must have, you started a 32 page thread about it. Do you mean to tell me that you spent 32 pages crying about something you don't care about?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:13pm

Not sure what you are on about John your post is all over the place. If you are incapable of input or debate simply don't post.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:17pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Not sure what you are on about John your post is all over the place. If you are incapable of input or debate simply don't post.



I know, it's a struggle for you ... so I'll try to help you out

you asked of there was anything we can do to raise their IQ

I suggested flying them to Australia

Your reply was that your concern was about those in other countries, not those in the middle east

I pointed out that the last 32 pages have been about the IQ of muslims in the middle east

Now, if you were concerned about those in other countries, why would you use the IQ of those in the middle east as your base?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:20pm
Because that's where they are coming from DERRRRRRR.

Clearly you are the one with the struggle.

Do try and keep up John because to date all you have posted is nonsense.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:23pm

Quote:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


If every muslim country  / nation imported one Jew, this would effectively double their I.Q.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:32pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
Because that's where they are coming from DERRRRRRR.

Clearly you are the one with the struggle.

Do try and keep up John because to date all you have posted is nonsense.


and bringing them here will improve their IQ ... problem solved.

why is everything so difficult for you?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.



at least they have an excuse ... unlike you

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.


True and that's a scientific fact.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:06pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.



at least they have an excuse ... unlike you

Sissy cry baby. When are you going back to wogland to visit your nazi grandfathers grave?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:10pm
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Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:42pm:
So far the Author has been attacked and his content and finding ignored.


Oh, I know. Here's us ignoring his findings:


Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?


Quote:
It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?

No not all. nature and nurture, not nature versus nurture. But why am I lecturing you, with your "special awareness" and all. Lol.


But that's not what Templer's saying. And if you unpack his criteria, you'll find there are no cultural or economic similarities in the countries he describes. Templer himself makes the point that Gulf Arabs are more fundamentalist and rigid in their beliefs than Indonesians, who live in a country "where Mosques and Churches can be seen in close proximity to one another".

But all this is moot. Templer is getting at the racial genetics of Arabs, as demonstrated by this:

[quote]There seems to be considerable historical and anecdotal evidence of interbreeding of Arabs and Blacks... [A] possibility is that persons of lower intelligence are more attracted to a religion characterized by authoritarian teaching, rote memorization, simplicity of dogma, and certainty than to abstract principles and critical thinking.


In other words, people are attracted to their beliefs based on their levels of tintedness. But what of Christianity, the other great religion to come out of the Arabian peninsular? Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


Quote:
If these religious characteristics do effect intelligence, one could... hypothesize lower intelligence in Catholicism than in Protestantism.


So as you can see, Templer is making judgments about religion based solely on his racial criteria, and why not? Most of Templer's references come straight from that crucible of racial ideas and "scientific" racism, the Journal of Mankind, the publication that publishes Templer.
[/quote]

And here's Matty ignoring the ignoring:


Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
No, Matty, Templer's data on skin colour, temperature and GDP disproves his entire thesis.

The biggest country in the world, India, has (according to Templer's data) a mean IQ of 82 - lower than the majority of Arab countries and Indonesia (the biggest Muslim country), which is 87.

Indians have the same skin-tone ranking Templer attributes to Arabs and similar average temperatures. It does, of course, have far lower GDP per capita than Arab countries (which include the rich Gulf states).

There are more Indians in the world than Muslims (and Arabs), and Indians score lower in all Templer's ratings.

Indeed, India's mean IQ is (according to Templer) two points lower than its neighbor Pakistan - a country almost identical in terms of skin colour and temperature.

It is a jolly world, no?


Nice try but the muslim average IQ is still 81.


What do you think about the findings, Matty?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm
Ban them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:26pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
Ban them.


Why post stupid stuff in forums, is it because you want to appear illiterate and of low IQ or because you have a low IQ?

Do you even realize you come across as an Idiot, seriously ? Do you ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:28pm
It is interesting to see when data is posted about the IQ level of muslims that shows they have a cognitive disability how they go off like fire crackers . ;D


bbbb, b , b - but i am now not a muslim I am just an apologist Bahahahaha ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.



at least they have an excuse ... unlike you

Sissy cry baby. When are you going back to wogland to visit your nazi grandfathers grave?


don't start crying.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:38pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
Ban them.


Why post stupid stuff in forums, is it because you want to appear illiterate and of low IQ or because you have a low IQ?

Do you even realize you come across as an Idiot, seriously ? Do you ?



you're still ignoring  Karnals post I see... you want debate, debate. He's presented a valid point , why don't you address it instead of posting stupid stuff

According to you that must because you're illiterate and of a low IQ! :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:40pm

Quote:
Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


World events show that islam is dogmatically rigid in evilness.

While Christianity is dogmatic and rigid in righteousness.

No?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:53pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:38pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
Ban them.


Why post stupid stuff in forums, is it because you want to appear illiterate and of low IQ or because you have a low IQ?

Do you even realize you come across as an Idiot, seriously ? Do you ?



you're still ignoring  Karnals post I see... you want debate, debate. He's presented a valid point , why don't you address it instead of posting stupid stuff

According to you that must because you're illiterate and of a low IQ! :D :D :D


You're in no position to talk. Discussing an idiot of low IQ posting "Ban Them" might be more your speed. Certainly nothing I take serious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:02pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:53pm:
You're in no position to talk. Discussing an idiot of low IQ posting "Ban Them" might be more your speed. Certainly nothing I take serious.


why are you focusing on that instead of debating the topic? Here it is again just in case you missed it.




Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:42pm:
So far the Author has been attacked and his content and finding ignored.


Oh, I know. Here's us ignoring his findings:


Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?


Quote:
It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?



Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

ian wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
Apart from G, does anyone else find it interesting that Templer said his study is not about culture, but race?

[quote]It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables in accounting for the unpretentious mean IQs in the Arab and Muslim countries. All of the European countries have the highest rated skin colors... Skin color is the biological variable that correlates most highly with IQ (Templer & Arikawa, 2006).


As you can see, effendes, it is all about race.

It is a jolly world, no?

No not all. nature and nurture, not nature versus nurture. But why am I lecturing you, with your "special awareness" and all. Lol.


But that's not what Templer's saying. And if you unpack his criteria, you'll find there are no cultural or economic similarities in the countries he describes. Templer himself makes the point that Gulf Arabs are more fundamentalist and rigid in their beliefs than Indonesians, who live in a country "where Mosques and Churches can be seen in close proximity to one another".

But all this is moot. Templer is getting at the racial genetics of Arabs, as demonstrated by this:

[quote]There seems to be considerable historical and anecdotal evidence of interbreeding of Arabs and Blacks... [A] possibility is that persons of lower intelligence are more attracted to a religion characterized by authoritarian teaching, rote memorization, simplicity of dogma, and certainty than to abstract principles and critical thinking.


In other words, people are attracted to their beliefs based on their levels of tintedness. But what of Christianity, the other great religion to come out of the Arabian peninsular? Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


Quote:
If these religious characteristics do effect intelligence, one could... hypothesize lower intelligence in Catholicism than in Protestantism.


So as you can see, Templer is making judgments about religion based solely on his racial criteria, and why not? Most of Templer's references come straight from that crucible of racial ideas and "scientific" racism, the Journal of Mankind, the publication that publishes Templer.
[/quote]

And here's Matty ignoring the ignoring:


Sir James wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
No, Matty, Templer's data on skin colour, temperature and GDP disproves his entire thesis.

The biggest country in the world, India, has (according to Templer's data) a mean IQ of 82 - lower than the majority of Arab countries and Indonesia (the biggest Muslim country), which is 87.

Indians have the same skin-tone ranking Templer attributes to Arabs and similar average temperatures. It does, of course, have far lower GDP per capita than Arab countries (which include the rich Gulf states).

There are more Indians in the world than Muslims (and Arabs), and Indians score lower in all Templer's ratings.

Indeed, India's mean IQ is (according to Templer) two points lower than its neighbor Pakistan - a country almost identical in terms of skin colour and temperature.

It is a jolly world, no?


Nice try but the muslim average IQ is still 81.


What do you think about the findings, Matty?

I'm curious. [/quote]

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:08pm
You seem a bit slow john. I think the  findings of the OP's pdf file is good news and explains a lot regarding muslims having a low IQ. Now we can concentrate on how we can help raise that IQ without it costing us our culture, lives and raping of our women. Any ideas champ ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:09pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
You seem a bit slow john. I think the  findings of the OP's pdf file is good news and explains a lot regarding muslims having a low IQ. Now we can concentrate on how we can help raise that IQ without it costing us our culture, lives and raping of our women. Any ideas champ ?



so you're idea for intelligent debate is to pretend it never happened? and then you cry when people call you an idiot ... you idiot

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:12pm

moses wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Quote:
Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


World events show that islam is dogmatically rigid in evilness.

While Christianity is dogmatic and rigid in righteousness.

No?


Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:15pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
You seem a bit slow john. I think the  findings of the OP's pdf file is good news and explains a lot regarding muslims having a low IQ. Now we can concentrate on how we can help raise that IQ without it costing us our culture, lives and raping of our women. Any ideas champ ?



so you're idea for intelligent debate is to pretend it never happened? and then you cry when people call you an idiot ... you idiot


I'm not sure what you are babbling on about now but I take it that's  a no that you have no constructive ideas as usual just more trolling.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:53pm:
You're in no position to talk. Discussing an idiot of low IQ posting "Ban Them" might be more your speed. Certainly nothing I take serious.


why are you focusing on that instead of debating the topic? Here it is again just in case you missed it.


Matty hasn't read the article, JS. It's a tad unfair to expect him to debate it.

Mind you, he did read the title.

Cesterete them.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

moses wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Quote:
Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


World events show that islam is dogmatically rigid in evilness.

While Christianity is dogmatic and rigid in righteousness.

No?


Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.


Yet islam is the one dogmatically rigid in evilness regardless. Why is that ? Low IQ ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:20pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

moses wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Quote:
Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


World events show that islam is dogmatically rigid in evilness.

While Christianity is dogmatic and rigid in righteousness.

No?


Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.


Yet islam is the one dogmatically rigid in evilness regardless. Why is that ? Low IQ ?


Read my post above, Matty. It discusses all this. I've even re-typed Templer's own words for us all to think about.

You replied to it, remember?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:20pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:53pm:
You're in no position to talk. Discussing an idiot of low IQ posting "Ban Them" might be more your speed. Certainly nothing I take serious.


why are you focusing on that instead of debating the topic? Here it is again just in case you missed it.


Matty hasn't read the article, JS. It's a tad unfair to expect him to debate it.

Mind you, he did read the title.

Cesterete them.



Yet all you do is troll and have debated nothing yet at all.

Ah the mind of a muslim with a low IQ incapable of debate. more data proving the OP true I guess.

All you are capable of mustering are matty this matty that, "Ban Them" this and that. You come across as a person with really impart cognitive ability.

Lets face it its all lashing out because there is evidence you are mentally deficient as displayed here.

Any chance of acknowledging that you are a bit backward and working on the problem ?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:22pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

moses wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Quote:
Surely Christianity is equally dogmatic and rigid.


World events show that islam is dogmatically rigid in evilness.

While Christianity is dogmatic and rigid in righteousness.

No?


Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.


Yet islam is the one dogmatically rigid in evilness regardless. Why is that ? Low IQ ?


Read my post above, Matty. It discusses all this. I've even re-typed Templer's own words for us all to think about.

You replied to it, remember?



You don't discuss anything. I see the matty name calling is on the fly again feeling exposed as a retard again are we ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:23pm

Quote:
Any chance of acknowledging that you are a bit backward and working on the problem ?


Yes, but how could I possibly change my skin colour and the Australian temperature, Matty?

These are the sources of intelligence, remember.

You might want to go back and give the title of your article another read.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:25pm
Kamal why do you ignore your stupidity on this forum and feel the need to call people silly names like matty. It just displays a low level of intelligence. It  is proven muslims have a low IQ why do you ignore the fact you have a low IQ?  Is it too hard to face up too ? Why don't you seek help ?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:28pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Quote:
Any chance of acknowledging that you are a bit backward and working on the problem ?


Yes, but how could I possibly change my skin colour and the Australian temperature, Matty?

These are the sources of intelligence, remember.

You might want to go back and give the title of your article another read.



It is sad all you can do is run around calling people matty that clearly upset up and you want to remain a fool.

This explains muslims to a t though. Thick as two planks nothing more to give.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?

This may be the key to stopping the muslim way of think as far as violence and terrorism is concerned.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:40pm
No, the only solution's a few generations of interbreeding with the Chinky Chonks.

That could work.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:42pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?

This may be the key to stopping the muslim way of think as far as violence and terrorism is concerned.


Maybe less Allah and less Koran and more books with learny stuff inside.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:44pm
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Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:01pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Ban them
Bomb them
Kill them
I've got Karnal's burqa on today  ;D

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Have you read Templer's definition of Muslim IQ scores in comparison to non-Muslims?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's half a percentile. I certainly couldn't make it out.

Do you want to have a go?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:13pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?

This may be the key to stopping the muslim way of think as far as violence and terrorism is concerned.


Maybe less Allah and less Koran and more books with learny stuff inside.


You haven't been reading either, dear. Do you want to read the article and come back?

Feel free to read the quotes I've provided, but I know you'll want to understand the full picture - particularly Templer's definition of "containers".

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:14pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.



No. We can only blame white privilege. That's what white privilege is for - to take the blame for everything.  There is an inverse correlation between pigmentation and responsibility. In fact that is the definition of white privilege.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Have you read Templer's definition of Muslim IQ scores in comparison to non-Muslims?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's half a percentile. I certainly couldn't make it out.

Do you want to have a go?
I see. Making excuses for your dumb people again. I admire your loyalty Karnal.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:18pm

Frank wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.



No. We can only blame white privilege. That's what white privilege is for - to take the blame for everything.  There is an inverse correlation between pigmentation and responsibility. In fact that is the definition of white privilege.


Good to see someone finally getting the terminology right, Frank. Templer and his friends at the Journal of Mankind would be proud.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:22pm
Karnal wrote:

Quote:
Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.


I thought Templer was talking about I.Q.

Are you implying that a level of I.Q. will determine the degree of evilness or righteousness that drives your psyche?

If you are please explain (as they say).

In the case of the muslims low I.Q. I think there is a definite correlation between 1400 years of inbreeding and low intelligence.

The ancestors of today's muslims were in all probability just as normal and intelligent as anyone else.

Which brings us to the two doctrines islam and Christianity.

One has all the hallmarks of being instituted by a normal spiritually righteous man Christ.

Then we have islam instituted by a man who was a thief, liar, pedophile, rapist, torturer and mass murderer, islam an utterly evil concept.

The thing is, that today 2016, you would have to be mentally deformed to unequivocally  believe that you have the right to rape torture and kill in the name of your god (as the muslims do).


Is it a coincidence that muslims have inbred themselves into a subgroup of low intelligence beings, who are stupid enough to absolutely worship every piece of filth and perversion in the qur'an as being irrevocably perfect and pure?

Or was it planed by evilness?



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:28pm


Quote:
...........Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81........


they were looking at the clever ones.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:28pm:
they were looking at the clever ones.



that certainly explains why you were never polled.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:52pm

moses wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
Karnal wrote:

Quote:
Not possible, Moses. According to Templer, Jesus had a high tintedness rating and comes from the Middle East, so He could not possibly be righteous.

Sorry about that.


I thought Templer was talking about I.Q.

Are you implying that a level of I.Q. will determine the degree of evilness or righteousness that drives your psyche?

If you are please explain (as they say).

In the case of the muslims low I.Q. I think there is a definite correlation between 1400 years of inbreeding and low intelligence.

The ancestors of today's muslims were in all probability just as normal and intelligent as anyone else.

Which brings us to the two doctrines islam and Christianity.

One has all the hallmarks of being instituted by a normal spiritually righteous man Christ.

Then we have islam instituted by a man who was a thief, liar, pedophile, rapist, torturer and mass murderer, islam an utterly evil concept.

The thing is, that today 2016, you would have to be mentally deformed to unequivocally  believe that you have the right to rape torture and kill in the name of your god (as the muslims do).


Is it a coincidence that muslims have inbred themselves into a subgroup of low intelligence beings, who are stupid enough to absolutely worship every piece of filth and perversion in the qur'an as being irrevocably perfect and pure?

Or was it planed by evilness?


Sorry, Moses, are you asking me to tell you what the article says?

Strange. You do this with the Bible as well

I’m.curious: have you ever thought of having a quick sqiz yourself?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Have you read Templer's definition of Muslim IQ scores in comparison to non-Muslims?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's half a percentile. I certainly couldn't make it out.

Do you want to have a go?
I see. Making excuses for your dumb people again. I admire your loyalty Karnal.


You mean Pakistanis?

You’ll find Templer’s real beef is with the Arab/negroid subspecies, Homo.

Well, you would if you read the article, anyway. What’s your skin pigmentation rating? You haven’t said.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:58pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 7:28pm:
they were looking at the clever ones.



that certainly explains why you were never polled.


Oh, Sprint’s been.poled, JS.

Pole them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 8:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Have you read Templer's definition of Muslim IQ scores in comparison to non-Muslims?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's half a percentile. I certainly couldn't make it out.

Do you want to have a go?
I see. Making excuses for your dumb people again. I admire your loyalty Karnal.


No, Homo, I’m asking what the actual difference between.the Muslim.and non-Muslim.average IQ score is.

It’s all in the article. Do you want to have a stab?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 8:53pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
If Muslim arabs stopped screwing their relatives then that would definitely improve the quality of their DNA.


True and that's a scientific fact.


Sorry, Matty, it’s a scientific fact that the Arabs didn’t screw their relatives enough. If you’ve read your article, you’ll know they screwed their negroid sex slaves, and this produced their current level of tintedness/subhumanness.

Back to the drawing board, effendes. According to Templer, your Muselman isn’t inbred enough.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm
Nuke them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm
Ban them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 19th, 2016 at 11:11pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Sir James wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Is there anyone with ideas how we can help muslims raise their IQ Levels ?


Well, we could say to blame Islam.

Actually, no, we can't say that anymore. We have to blame inferior negroid genetics. It's been scientifically proven.
So what's your answer to their low scores karnal?


Have you read Templer's definition of Muslim IQ scores in comparison to non-Muslims?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's half a percentile. I certainly couldn't make it out.

Do you want to have a go?
I see. Making excuses for your dumb people again. I admire your loyalty Karnal.


No, Homo, I’m asking what the actual difference between.the Muslim.and non-Muslim.average IQ score is.

 
Special awarenesss?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2016 at 11:21pm
We all have it, Ian - some more than others.

Have you converted to scientific racialism yet, or do you still blame Islam?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 19th, 2016 at 11:25pm
Like I said, nature and nurture, not nature versus nurture. You will understand it one day.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:28am
I’m not sure, Ian, that’s really hard.

Has anyone here actually read the article, or should we call it quits?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:42am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:
I’m not sure, Ian, that’s really hard.

Has anyone here actually read the article, or should we call it quits?
you are calling it quits? Probably a good call if i was you.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:45am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:
I’m not sure, Ian, that’s really hard.

 

of course it is. Just go and post about MKR or something. Theres a  good boy.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 1:16am
Good answer, Ian. That should shut the naysayers up once and for all.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by GordyL on Apr 20th, 2016 at 10:43am
Karnal, do you think there may be a connection between heavily patriarchal cultures and low IQ?
When a disgingushed gent like the one in the attached picture is a senior politician I wonder if having half the country having the status of livestock would effect the numbers
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Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 11:58am

GordyL wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 10:43am:
Karnal, do you think there may be a connection between heavily patriarchal cultures and low IQ?
When a disgingushed gent like the one in the attached picture is a senior politician I wonder if having half the country having the status of livestock would effect the numbers


I'm not sure, Gordy. That would mean Catholic countries would have low IQs, and if you read the Templer article (or my quotes above) you'll see Templer's preference for Protestantism over Catholicism as this relates to intelligence.

Would you like to keep discussing the article, or should we confine our discussion to people who've actually read it?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on Apr 20th, 2016 at 4:49pm

Page 202 Templer says:

4. Discussion
The fact that Arab countries' IQs are lower than those of other countries with comparable skin colour is consistent with historical evidence of a decline of the muslim empire that may have been accompanied by a decline in IQ

To me Templer is skirting around the problem which causes low I.Q. in muslims e.g. inbreeding.

The entire document is about muslim's low IQ compared to anybody else.

He goes on about skin colour may have some influence, then as page 202 says skin colour is not the problem as Arab countries (muslims) have a lower IQ than other countries with comparable skin colour.

He goes on about rigid dogma in islam then then asks are the Catholics experiencing the same problems. Then on page 204 we see that the Protestant and Catholic countries all are around the 100 mark while muslims have a mean IQ of 81.

Again he does not show the extreme differences in the two doctrines.

The facts are islam is keeping muslims in the 7th century as inbred closed  minded introverts (muslims are their own worst enemy).

It's important to recognize the difference between various religious creeds.

Nothing is  more rigid than say the Buddhist physical and mental training regime, yet we don't see their countries in the low IQ bracket, or Buddhists being the threat and problem to the entire world that muslims are.

Facts are facts muslims have a low IQ, today muslims are massively inbred due to 1400 years of it.

muslims can never help themselves until they remove the backward evilness in islam.

They are stuffed because to purge the filth means the end of islam.   

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 6:12pm

Quote:
Then on page 204 we see that the Protestant and Catholic countries all are around the 100 mark


Really? Apart from all the African, Latin American and European ones, you mean?

Good to see someone finally reading the article, Moses.

Actually, no it's not. The article's not worth the paper Jihadwatch scanned it from, but you did want a discussion on the actual article so it's good of you to give it a squiz.   


Quote:
To me Templer is skirting around the problem which causes low I.Q. in muslims e.g. inbreeding.


He certainly is, Moses. He didn't say this at all. Templer's beef is with the blacks - that dastardly negroid subspecies.

Feel free to read his other work - on black American Christians, also published by the Journal of Mankind. You could say they don't get a good rap from Templer, and that would be putting it mildly.

I guess it's no wonder FD is such a fan of his work.

Freeeeedom, innit.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:31pm
Its a shame your IQ of below 81 doesn't help your responses.

You certainly do go off like an endless firecracker over it ;D .

Go on call me matty that will do the trick ::) .

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:34pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
Its a shame your IQ of below 81 doesn't help your responses.

You certainly do go off like an endless firecracker over it ;D .

Go on call me matty that will do the trick ::) .


So, matty, do you still believe that "81% is neither hear nor their"?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm
miam miam.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm
Yoplait.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


What happened in your family, Homo?


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:41pm
It has long been known the muslim apologists are quiet unintelligent. I just wonder how much further below the muslims IQ gay apologists rank.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:45pm
miam miam

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


What happened in your family, Homo?
Don't like my post sissy boy. Well it's the truth. I can't help it if the blackie groups are down in IQ.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


What happened in your family, Homo?


Now now, Greggery, that’s unfair. Homo’s tres cosmopolitan. He comes from Western Sydney.

He went to school with a boong.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 20th, 2016 at 9:44pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


It seems to send them into a tail spin when it is acknowledged by others doesn't it.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2016 at 9:55pm

Sir James wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


It seems to send them into a tail spin when it is acknowledged by others doesn't it.


Not at all, Matty. FD wants to keep.an open.mind. He wants to put your article on the Wiki.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Sir James on Apr 20th, 2016 at 10:00pm
You have been in a tailspin since this thread was created.

Good on FD the statistics for muslims having a low IQ as you know, still stand.

Go on, call me matty, golly gosh I just don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight if you do. ::)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?


Good things come to those who wait.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 2:02pm

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?


Good things come to those who wait.


True, FD. Maybe you'll switch back to the non-racist pre-2007 FD, yes?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:37pm:
[quote]The theory is entirely plausible.


I know, FD. It is entirely plausible that generations of interbreeding with the negroid sub-race causes people to convert to "authoritarian" religions like Islam.

We blame Blacks, no?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by John Smith on Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:56pm

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?


Good things come to those who wait.


Just as long as those good things aren't straight answers, right?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 4:47pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?


Good things come to those who wait.


Just as long as those good things aren't straight answers, right?


Maybe FD feels a bit shy.

Don't mind us, FD, we're all friends here. You don't have to be crazy to post here, but it helps!

Do you think the part-blackies are the problem here?

Remember, there are no right or wrong answers. As you say, it's a plausible theory.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:04pm
All will be revealed in due course.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:04pm:
All will be revealed in due course.


Still haven’t opened Matty’s article, have you?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Super Nova on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm
The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81

What a load of bull shite.

The Wechsler Intelligence Scale classifies an IQ Score of 80 as borderline intelligence which is also considered to be borderline mental retardation.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:44pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:04pm:
All will be revealed in due course.


Still haven’t opened Matty’s article, have you?


There is no need. I have my own.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:54pm
Yes, I imagine you do.

Abu’s getting published in the white supremacist journals now, is he?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm
Outbreed them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:57pm
Spay them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Yadda on Apr 21st, 2016 at 9:11pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
It's the African blood that brings IQ levels down. Sand naggers, Indians, Paki's etc are all part blackie. Whities and ching chongs have branched off and evolved differently.


Different species, innit.

What do you think, FD? You’ve gone remarkably quiet.

Cat got your tongue?



Good things come to those who wait.


True, FD.

Maybe you'll switch back to the non-racist pre-2007 FD, yes?



Troll.



Maybe you'll define the meaning of the word 'racist' for us, yes?

And then put an example of it, in some context, yes?



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2016 at 9:29pm
Interesting post, Y, but I’m curious.

Have you read the article?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 10:05am

Super Nova wrote on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm:
The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81

What a load of bull shite.

The Wechsler Intelligence Scale classifies an IQ Score of 80 as borderline intelligence which is also considered to be borderline mental retardation.


Borderline is not mental retardation, dear. Borderline means it's in the borderline range of the threshold for intellectual disability.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:29pm
THE KEY TO THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT TO BE A MUSLIM, YOU HAVE TO BE STUP1D.

81 Id say for a Muslim this is high on their intelligence scale.
In fact Id probably estimate half that for most of them to actually follow this rubbish cult.

just remember 81,81,81,81,81,81,81,81,81   Har Har Har, the M0rons.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:39pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:29pm:
THE KEY TO THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT TO BE A MUSLIM, YOU HAVE TO BE STUP1D.

81 Id say for a Muslim this is high on their intelligence scale.
In fact Id probably estimate half that for most of them to actually follow this rubbish cult.

just remember 81,81,81,81,81,81,81,81,81   Har Har Har, the M0rons.


That's right, Valkie. White people are the most abused people on the planet.

So unfair for the Muselman to pretend he is. Google Muslem victim mentality.

Google: taqiyya.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:51pm
Just been reading about IQ's
Its interesting reading

And to think my IQ is nearly 50% higher than a Muslims.
This means that if two of my fellow engineers and I got together we would be worth more than 4 Muslims  :D

No wonder the blow themselves up.


Over 140 - Genius or almost genius....................not a Muslim
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence..................Not a Muslim
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence..........................Not a Muslim
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence...............Not a Muslim
80 - 89 - Dullness....................................................Brighter than most Muslims
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence..................Average Muslim
Under 70 - Feeble-mindedness.......................................Terrorist/ Imran/ Mohamed

Normal Distribution of IQ Scores

50% of IQ scores fall between 90 and 110
70% of IQ scores fall between 85 and 115
95% of IQ scores fall between 70 and 130
99.5% of IQ scores fall between 60 and 140

Low IQ & Mental Retardation   (Your average run of the mill Muslim)

An IQ under 70 is considered as "mental retardation" or limited mental ability. 5% of the population falls below 70 on IQ tests. The severity of the mental retardation is commonly broken into 4 levels:

50-70 - Mild mental retardation (85%)............................Bright Muslim
35-50 - Moderate mental retardation (10%)......................Average Muslim
20-35 - Severe mental retardation (4%)............................Terrorist Muslim
IQ < 20 - Profound mental retardation (1%).........................Mohamed/ Imrans

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 4:03pm
Have you thought of joining MENSA, Valkie?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by ian on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 11:19pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:51pm:
Just been reading about IQ's
Its interesting reading

And to think my IQ is nearly 50% higher than a Muslims.
This means that if two of my fellow engineers and I got together we would be worth more than 4 Muslims  :D

No wonder the blow themselves up.


Over 140 - Genius or almost genius....................not a Muslim
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence..................Not a Muslim
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence..........................Not a Muslim
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence...............Not a Muslim
80 - 89 - Dullness....................................................karnal
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence..................GreggaryPeccary
Under 70 - Feeble-mindedness.......................................Alevine

Normal Distribution of IQ Scores

50% of IQ scores fall between 90 and 110
70% of IQ scores fall between 85 and 115
95% of IQ scores fall between 70 and 130
99.5% of IQ scores fall between 60 and 140

Low IQ & Mental Retardation   (Your average run of the mill Muslim)

An IQ under 70 is considered as "mental retardation" or limited mental ability. 5% of the population falls below 70 on IQ tests. The severity of the mental retardation is commonly broken into 4 levels:

50-70 - Mild mental retardation (85%)............................Bright Muslim
35-50 - Moderate mental retardation (10%)......................Average Muslim
20-35 - Severe mental retardation (4%)............................Terrorist Muslim
IQ < 20 - Profound mental retardation (1%).........................Mohamed/ Imrans


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 11:43pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 3:51pm:
Just been reading about IQ's
Its interesting reading

And to think my IQ is nearly 50% higher than a Muslims.
This means that if two of my fellow engineers and I got together we would be worth more than 4 Muslims  :D

No wonder the blow themselves up.


Over 140 - Genius or almost genius....................not a Muslim
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence..................Not a Muslim
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence..........................Not a Muslim
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence...............Not a Muslim
80 - 89 - Dullness....................................................Brighter than most Muslims
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence..................Average Muslim
Under 70 - Feeble-mindedness.......................................Terrorist/ Imran/ Mohamed

Normal Distribution of IQ Scores

50% of IQ scores fall between 90 and 110
70% of IQ scores fall between 85 and 115
95% of IQ scores fall between 70 and 130
99.5% of IQ scores fall between 60 and 140

Low IQ & Mental Retardation   (Your average run of the mill Muslim)

An IQ under 70 is considered as "mental retardation" or limited mental ability. 5% of the population falls below 70 on IQ tests. The severity of the mental retardation is commonly broken into 4 levels:

50-70 - Mild mental retardation (85%)............................Bright Muslim
35-50 - Moderate mental retardation (10%)......................Average Muslim
20-35 - Severe mental retardation (4%)............................Terrorist Muslim
IQ < 20 - Profound mental retardation (1%).........................Mohamed/ Imrans




So many words ... so little understanding.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 12:46am

GordyL wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Do muslims read the Koran more than Christians read the bible ?


Muslims are required to know there Koran cover to cover. I think they are supposed to at least read their Koran a certain number of times before they reach a certain age. Christians will read their bibles a certain amount of times, depending on their desire to read it.

Last year, I tried to make a go of reading the bible over the span of a number of months. I got a few pages into the next chapter passed Genesis, and gave up. It is no surprise that Australians give up on religion, as the book just has no sense.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 9:39pm
Just because you read something and learn the mantra by heart.
Does not mean you have any understanding or the intelligence to differentiate right from wrong, moral from immoral.

Any fool can read a book.

More importantly.
Many Muzzos cant actually read, they simply listen to the toilet paper holder being read to them and learn the chants by rort.

Intelligence is when one can use ones own mind to THINK for oneself.
To be able to make decisions based on logic and repercussions of that decision.

To understand self awareness, self preservation and selflessness.
One must have an idea of self worth.

These people and their sick, twisted leaders strive to remove their followers self worth and then use the empty vessels to carry out acts or such depravity that no true human can comprehend the result.

Inbreeding and the resulting continual and ongoing reduction in intelligence only serves to strengthen the sick leaders power as they then have ready made automatons to carry out their sick, twisted devil worshiping deeds.

But 81 is still funny

Muslim high achiever..........one who can put two lego blocks together.   

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Dnarever on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 11:16pm
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

So really, really dumb but a bit smarter than Liberal supporters.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 24th, 2016 at 3:22pm

Quote:
Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81

So really, really dumb but a bit smarter than Liberal supporters.


Sort of.
I would clarify it slightly.

"So really dumb but considerably smarter than anyone who trusts a politician and supports him/her"

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 26th, 2016 at 10:19pm
To be honest I have never met a smart muslim. By that I mean someone that strikes me as an intelligent person.

I must say these statistics are not surprising to me overall.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:58pm
Of course they’re not surprising.

You posted them, remember?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:14am
I never posted them at all hon. If the statistics get you this upset may I suggest that you don't read them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:42am

Ashley wrote on Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:14am:
I never posted them at all hon. If the statistics get you this upset may I suggest that you don't read them.


What do the statistics say, Matty? Apart from 81%, you haven't discussed them.

Have you read your article yet?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2016 at 7:49pm
Banging your head on the floor until there';s a bump on your forehead is a pretty, pretty strong indication of being a headbanging fool.

And that's before he said a word.





Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 27th, 2016 at 8:46pm
The real reason they do it is that they love the smell of other men's butt holes.

Sick bastards

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:24am
For supposed grown men it certainly displays a childlike mentality..

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 28th, 2016 at 12:14pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Banging your head on the floor until there';s a bump on your forehead is a pretty, pretty strong indication of being a headbanging fool.

And that's before he said a word.


If you're getting a bump on your head then you're doing it wrong.

The motions of the salat is actually quite therapeutic, and many describe it as a form meditation.

You should give it a go before bagging it  ;)

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 28th, 2016 at 12:36pm
it doesn't matter what you call it.

It is just kneeling on a mat as a grown man bending over past the ass of the guy in front of you and placing your forehead on the floor.

If muslims have been told that it is called salat and it is therapeutic ;D and it is a form of meditation and you believe that is how grown men should act. More power to you. In the west it is clearly childish nonsense.



Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by gandalf on Apr 28th, 2016 at 1:08pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
In the west it is clearly childish nonsense.


Ritualistic physical activities are surprisingly common in the west, and they have therapeutic value. You also should try it Matty. It might help you cope with this obvious insecurity you have with Islam.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 28th, 2016 at 2:04pm
There is no need to make up names for me just because I don't share your view.

As I said if you think its therapeutic to sit on roads , floors, wherever you have to do it, more power to you.

At the end of the day to the average westerner it is nonsenses of a childish or of a child like mentatlity.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:33pm
I have seen similar displays of repeated eccentric body movement several times in the past.

Usually in medical centers where they are dealing with severely disabled and retarded people.

Sort of makes sense when you think about it ........Less than 81
Probably Mohamed was retarded when he came up with the idea.............<81 tee hee

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on Apr 30th, 2016 at 1:47pm
Mohammed was, he had a seizure when he went to the pretend mountain. So the written story goes.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by moses on May 1st, 2016 at 2:37pm
I'd say that it's 99.9% chance that muhammad was deformed and psychotic.

He sat down to pee, he held his penis so as  not to urinate on himself, he had to milk his penis to get the urine out after he had finished.

750 million muslim men all do the same thing to show their reverence for muhammad.

Google sunnah of the toilet.

mussies are all nutcases 

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on May 1st, 2016 at 2:50pm
Yeah well it would seem they certainly aren't the sharpest tools in the shed I guess. Being so does explain all the nuttery going on in Islam though. I steer clear of them personally and have nothing to do with them, they come across as very insecure and unstable.

I suppose that is how Satan would want you to be if you followed a false religion I guess.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on May 1st, 2016 at 2:53pm

Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:50pm:
Yeah well it would seem they certainly aren't the sharpest tools in the shed I guess. Being so does explain all the nuttery going on in Islam though. I steer clear of them personally and have nothing to do with them, they come across as very insecure and unstable.

I suppose that is how Satan would want you to be if you followed a false religion I guess.
I do too. I saw a ninja today at the supermarket. You hardly see them smile. They always look very serious.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on May 1st, 2016 at 2:55pm
How can you tell if they are smiling?

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on May 1st, 2016 at 2:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:50pm:
Yeah well it would seem they certainly aren't the sharpest tools in the shed I guess. Being so does explain all the nuttery going on in Islam though. I steer clear of them personally and have nothing to do with them, they come across as very insecure and unstable.

I suppose that is how Satan would want you to be if you followed a false religion I guess.
I do too. I saw a ninja today at the supermarket. You hardly see them smile. They always look very serious.


I notice they go out of their way now to not move their trolleys when you are trying to pass. They know they are thumbing it to the western world and we know it too. Its a shame they weren't content to keep the nonsense in their own country and had to bring it here.


Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on May 1st, 2016 at 2:59pm

Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:50pm:
Yeah well it would seem they certainly aren't the sharpest tools in the shed I guess. Being so does explain all the nuttery going on in Islam though. I steer clear of them personally and have nothing to do with them, they come across as very insecure and unstable.

I suppose that is how Satan would want you to be if you followed a false religion I guess.
I do too. I saw a ninja today at the supermarket. You hardly see them smile. They always look very serious.


I notice they go out of their way now to not move their trolleys when you are trying to pass. They know they are thumbing it to the western world and we know it too. Its a shame they weren't content to keep the nonsense in their own country and had to bring it here.
I noticed that too. Their religion teachers that we are kaffir (non believers) and below them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on May 1st, 2016 at 2:59pm

freediver wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:55pm:
How can you tell if they are smiling?


Little creases at the end of the eyes. Its very rare and you need to look hard. On the wire mesh ones you just don't get a look in at all.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by freediver on May 1st, 2016 at 3:00pm
I hadn't thought of that. I'll keep an eye out next time I tell one a joke.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Mr Hammer on May 1st, 2016 at 3:03pm

freediver wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:55pm:
How can you tell if they are smiling?
The full burqa ones could be a man. The other ones never smile,. Particularly the women. The full burqa ones mostly keep their heads down. probably because everybody is looking at them.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Ashley on May 1st, 2016 at 3:10pm
It's a bit of a joke. I was at the medical center and here were two muslims. The guy looking all slick in an Armani Suite loving life and here was his poor wife behind him looking at the ground through a slit doing as she was told. I felt so sorry for her being humiliated in public in such a way. Her life was clearly crap. You could feel it almost. I find there are two types, the arrogant ones thumbing it to the west and the oppressed poor women who were unfortunately born into it.

Although in public now it seems the more arrogant ones looking for trouble are the more prevalent.

Title: Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Post by Valkie on May 1st, 2016 at 5:18pm
"I'm sorry, I didn't see any human there"

My standard response as I walk through or bump aside the tent brigade.


Only once I have been threatened by the ??male?? with them, but as there was only one he didn't do much except yell at me in (swine), or some similar spitting and throat clearing language.

Every time he went off I said,
"Really that's so nice of you I do try to look my best"
"No, Its really flattering, but I"m not gay, so I cant accept you offer"
"I already have a wife and Id rather not have one of yours, I prefer women without beards"

He got all really really red in the face and stormed off herding the tents away with him.

Its a shame I was having a great conversation with him and he was very complementary.


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