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Title: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on May 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genome_project

The Neanderthal genome project is a collaboration of scientists to sequence the Neanderthal genome.

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According to preliminary sequences, 99.7% of the base pairs of the modern human and Neanderthal genomes are identical, compared to humans sharing around 98.8% of base pairs with the chimpanzee.[5] (Other studies concerning the commonality between chimps and humans have modified the commonality of 98% to a commonality of only 94%, showing that the genetic gap between humans and chimps is far larger than originally thought.)[6][7]

The researchers recovered ancient DNA of Neanderthals by extracting the DNA from the femur bones of three 38,000-year-old female Neanderthal specimens from Vindija Cave, Croatia, and other bones found in Spain, Russia, and Germany.[8] Only about half a gram of the bone samples (or 21 samples each 50-100 mg[9]) was required for the sequencing, but the project faced many difficulties, including the contamination of the samples by the bacteria that had colonized the Neanderthal's body and humans who handled the bones at the excavation site and at the laboratory.[10]

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In May 2010, the project released a draft of their report on the sequenced Neanderthal genome. Contradicting the results discovered while examining mitochondrial DNA, they demonstrated a range of genetic contribution to non-African modern humans ranging from 1% to 4%. From their Homo sapiens samples in Eurasia (French, Han Chinese & Papuan) the authors state that it is likely that interbreeding occurred in the Levant before Homo sapiens migrated into Europe.[21] However, this finding is disputed because of the paucity of archeological evidence supporting their statement. The fossil evidence does not conclusively place Neanderthals and modern humans in close proximity at this time and place.[22]

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/29/your-inner-neanderthal-fossil-bits-neanderthal-dna/

Scientists isolated the parts of the non-African modern human genetic blueprint that still contain Neanderthal remnants. Overall, it's barely more than 1 percent, said two studies released Wednesday in the journals Nature and Science.

However, in some places, such as the DNA related to the skin, the genetic instructions are as much as 70 percent Neanderthal and in other places there's virtually nothing from the species that's often portrayed as brutish cavemen.

Sarah Tishkoff, a professor of genetics and biology at the University of Pennsylvania who was not part of either study, theorized that the Neanderthal DNA probably helped the darker humans out of Africa cope with the cooler less bright north. Living in the cooler Europe means less ultraviolet light and less vitamin D from the sun. Darker skin blocks more of those needed rays, so lighter skin is more advantageous in the north and it seems that humans adopted that Neanderthal adaptation, she said.

Another area where we have more Neanderthal DNA is parts of genetic codes that have to do with certain immune system functions, Sankararaman said. Again, scientists can't say more than that these Neanderthal genes seem connected to certain diseases, such as type 2 diabetes and Crohn's disease and lupus, but they are there.

The Nature paper found that people of more East Asian descent had slightly more Neanderthal than Europeans, indicating that there may have been a second wave of interbreeding in Asia, researchers said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal

With an average cranial capacity of 1600 cc,[19] Neanderthal's cranial capacity is notably larger than the 1400 cc average for modern humans, indicating that their brain size was larger. However, due to larger body size, Neanderthals are less encephalized.[20] In 2008, a group of scientists produced a study using three-dimensional computer-assisted reconstructions of Neanderthal infants based on fossils found in Russia and Syria. The study indicated that Neanderthal and modern human brains were the same size at birth, but by adulthood, the Neanderthal brain was larger than the modern human brain.[21] They were much stronger than modern humans, having particularly strong arms and hands.[22] Males stood 164–168 cm (65–66 in) and females about 152–156 cm (60–61 in) tall.[23]

Genetic evidence published in 2010 suggests that Neanderthals contributed to the DNA of anatomically modern humans, probably through interbreeding between 80,000 and 28,000 years ago with a population of anatomically modern humans. According to the study, by the time that population began dispersing across Eurasia, Neanderthal genes constituted as much as 1–4% of its genome (roughly equivalent to having one Neanderthal great-great-great-grandparent).[24][25][26] Ötzi the iceman, Europe's oldest preserved mummy, was found to possess an even higher percentage of Neanderthal ancestry.[27] Recent findings suggest there may be even more Neanderthal genes in non-African humans than previously expected: approximately 20% of the Neanderthal gene pool was present in a broad sampling of non-African individuals, yet each individual's genome was only 2% Neanderthal.[28]

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Yadda on May 13^th, 2014 at 7:43pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genome_project

The Neanderthal genome project is a collaboration of scientists to sequence the Neanderthal genome.

...

The researchers recovered ancient DNA of Neanderthals by extracting the DNA from the femur bones of three 38,000-year-old female Neanderthal specimens from Vindija Cave, Croatia, and other bones found in Spain, Russia, and Germany.[8] Only about half a gram of the bone samples (or 21 samples each 50-100 mg[9]) was required for the sequencing, but the project faced many difficulties, including the contamination of the samples by the bacteria that had colonized the Neanderthal's body and humans who handled the bones at the excavation site and at the laboratory.[10]

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Did the femur bones of three 38,000-year-old female Neanderthal specimens come with convenient 'date stamps' ?

Or, were these bones subjected to carbon dating, a process which can accurately determine the age of tested specimens coz....., er coz, er coz..... ?

Yadda, from another forum...

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Further,
Evolution 'science' sometimes uses the [assumed!] age of fossils in sediment, to date a 'geologic layer'.
Evolution 'science' does this, as a 'method' to set a 'datum' for dating different, but adjacent geologic layers.
But then, evolution 'science' also sometimes uses the [assumed!] age of geologic layers, to date the fossils which a geologic layer contains!!
That is not a 'scientific' method, as proof of the age of anything!
It is the use of circular, fallacious reasoning to 'prove' the 'veracity' of a false hypothesis.
The 'logic' of these 'scientists' goes;
'Geologic layers are clearly very old, and therefore it follows that the fossils found within those 'geologic layers' must also be very old.'

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That type of 'scientific' logic defies common sense.
Doesn't it?

Google,
circular reasoning dating geologic layers and fossils

Google,
carbon dating flaws

Google,
radiometric dating flaws

Google,
radiometric dating deception

Google,
paleomagnetism dating unreliable

All scientific dating methods [of rocks] are dependent upon certain suppositions being made, and being uncritically accepted.
If those suppositions are in error, the result of the dating process must also be in error.
Scientists use the 'known' 'half life' period of isotopes within certain elements, to calculate a rate of decay, and then determine their current age.

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Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:55pm

I'm surprised the racists aren't onto this. Maybe they are still figuring out how they can spin it.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by jfish1936 on May 18^th, 2014 at 6:38pm

Yes, "All scientific dating methods [of rocks] are dependent upon certain suppositions being made, and being uncritically accepted.". But I would differ about the "uncritically accepted" bit.
Science involves looking at a wide variety of evidence; sometimes one piece seems to contradict another, and a scientist is able to boost his reputation by pointing out the discrepancy, at the cost of someone who has not fully studied the subject pointing the "You're wrong!" finger.
There is an assumption at the base of "evolution science". It is the assumption that things happened millennia ago much as they do today. If a radio-active substance seems to decay today, losing half its substance in 1.248×10 to the power 9 years , then it probably did the same 100 million years ago.
There is another assumption: that there exists an omnipotent, omnipresent, Omni .... entity, which arbitrarily created the Universe, and studded it with traps such as fossils which appear to be 100 million years old when they are less than 10,000. It also dictated books about this, and some of its believers believe they have a duty to kill those who don't believe.
Choose one of these two assumptions, and enjoy working out where it leads you!

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 10:54pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan

Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of the finger bone showed it to be genetically distinct from the mtDNAs of Neanderthals and modern humans.[9] Subsequent study of the nuclear genome from this specimen suggests that Denisovans shared a common origin with Neanderthals, that they ranged from Siberia to Southeast Asia, and that they lived among and interbred with the ancestors of some modern humans, with about 3% to 5% of the DNA of Melanesians and Aboriginal Australians deriving from Denisovans.

A detailed comparison of the Denisovan, Neanderthal, and human genomes has revealed evidence for a complex web of interbreeding among the lineages. Through such interbreeding, 17% of the Denisova genome represents DNA from the local Neanderthal population, while evidence was also found of a contribution to the nuclear genome from an ancient hominin lineage yet to be identified,[14] perhaps the source of the anomalously ancient mtDNA. DNA from this archaic species represents as much as 8% of the Denisovan genome.[36]

Analysis of genomes of modern humans show that they mated with at least two groups of Archaic humans: Neanderthals (more similar to those found in the Caucasus than those from the Altai region)[14] and Denisovans.[21][24][37] Approximately 4% of the DNA of non-African modern humans is shared with Neanderthals, suggesting interbreeding.[24] Tests comparing the Denisova hominin genome with those of six modern humans – a ǃKung from South Africa, a Nigerian, a Frenchman, a Papua New Guinean, a Bougainville Islander and a Han Chinese – showed that between 4% and 6% of the genome of Melanesians (represented by the Papua New Guinean and Bougainville Islander) derives from a Denisovan population; a later study puts the amount at 1.11% (with an additional contribution from some different and yet unknown ancestor).[38] This DNA was possibly introduced during the early migration to Melanesia. These findings are in concordance with the results of other comparison tests which show a relative increase in allele sharing between the Denisovan and the Aboriginal Australian genome, compared to other Eurasians and African populations; however, it has been observed that Papuans, the population of Papua New Guinea, have more allele sharing than Aboriginal Australians.[39]

Melanesians are not the only modern-day descendants of Denisovans. David Reich of Harvard University, in collaboration with Mark Stoneking of the Planck Institute team, found genetic evidence that Denisovan ancestry is shared by Melanesians, Australian Aborigines, and smaller scattered groups of people in South-East Asia, such as the Mamanwa, a Negrito people in the Philippines. However, not all Negritos were found to possess Denisovan genes; Onge Andaman Islanders and Malaysian Jehai, for example, were found to have no significant Denisovan inheritance. These data place the interbreeding event in mainland South-East Asia, and suggest that Denisovans once ranged widely over eastern Asia.[40][41][42] Based on the modern distribution of Denisova DNA, Denisovans may have crossed the Wallace Line, with Wallacea serving as their last refugium.[43][44] A paper by Kay Prüfer in 2013 said that mainland Asians and Native Americans had around 0.2% Denisovan ancestry.[45]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans

The archaic human admixture with modern humans is thought to have been taken place through interbreeding of modern humans with Neanderthals, Denisovans, or possibly other archaic humans over the course of human history. Neanderthal-derived DNA accounts for an estimated 1–4% of the Eurasian genome, but it is significantly absent or uncommon in the genome of most Sub-Saharan African people. In Oceanian and Southeast Asian populations, there is a relative increase of Denisovan-derived DNA. An estimated 4–6% of the Melanesian genome is derived from Denisovans. Recent non-comparative DNA analyses—as no specimens have been discovered—suggest that African populations have a genetic contribution from a now-extinct archaic African hominin population.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by jeez on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:07pm

What would be your summary of this finding Freediver.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:17pm

We really arent all the same under our skin.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:52pm

Lot of that going around.....

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:54pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:52pm:

Lot of that going around.....

I think Donincog implied you have a bit of Neanderthal, Grap. Is it true? ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Gnads on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:25am

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:54pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:52pm:

Lot of that going around.....

I think Donincog implied you have a bit of Neanderthal, Grap. Is it true? ;D

Must be true if Don implied it ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 11:26am

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

Carbon dating measures the amount of Carbon14 in a specimen.
This dates the specimen because when living tissue dies the amount of carbon14 reduces at a known rate (called it's half life)
So scientifically speaking, yes it did have a date stamp.

http://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-radiocarbon-dating-and-how-does-it-work-9690

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm

It's a very interesting subject that has become popular around the world as it is showing everyone how well we are all from the same tribe - long, long ago. Heidelbergensis.

Sure, there were x3 'off-shoot' tribes that struck it out alone for awhile.
Neanderthals in Europe/Middle-East
Denisovians in Asia
'mystery X' in Africa

...then some mixed up Sapien lot emerged to breed with all of them.

The Neanderthal were mostly 'cave dwellers' and never ventured far for their resources - they were not as Nomadic as the Sapiens who 'followed the food' and its this lack of diversity was probably their downfall ...until there was so few of them left, they were probably hunted as 'Evil Ogres or Trolls' in Caves in their twilight.

I personally think that when Sapiens spread out into the world - there were many different species of modern Homo and ancient Hominids still roaming around - giving rise to legends and myths along the way. Eventually though, they either faded into the Sapien tree or died out in isolation.

San Bushmen have the most number of 'ancient genetic' combinations - their gene pool is the most varied, which is ironic, considering as a 'people' they are the most ...few.

In the end though - all males will be 'Dominant Gene' and females will be 'Regressive Gene'.
Black Groom - White Bride ;)

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:23am

Jasin wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm:

How do you know Neanderthal were cave dwellers? Most humans used caves and rock shelters. Were Aboriginals cave dwellers? They certainly used caves and rock shelters as their paintings will attest. Then we have the replacers of Neanderthal using caves and rock shelters as paintings in Lascaux and Altamira will attest.

Do you have some sort of genetic memory going on? I don't fear the genetic future of man, just as his genetic past allowed me to be. Nothing stays constant.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 1:53am

Personally I'd love to have a full on DNA test.
This must be one of the MOST interesting areas of earth-based research today.
Like Archaeology, which continues to uncover fascinating historical artifacts.
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Er and I'm ignorant of much recent work.
What are Denisovians?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:34pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:23am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Apparently modern humans were a lot more nomadic. Aborigines for example used caves, but didn't live in them permanently.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:18pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:23am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Apparently modern humans were a lot more nomadic. Aborigines for example used caves, but didn't live in them permanently.

Some Indigenous Australians lived in caves, some in huts. Some Indigenous Australians were nomadic, some were not. Some were simple hunter-gathers, some were agricultural aquaculture farmers. You do like talking in stereotypes, don't you, FD? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 7:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:23am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Apparently modern humans were a lot more nomadic. Aborigines for example used caves, but didn't live in them permanently.

You are living a lie my friend.

No aboriginals ever lived in a hut, some had lean tos but that was as far as aboriginal engineering went.

The only caves they lived in were where they hid from tge rain, the never actually "lived" as troglodites.

There is absolutely zero evidence of any agriculture anywhere, again, they dod not have the need for these things with their lazy nomadic lifestyle.

Australian Aboriginals were pre stone age, nothing more, nothing less.

And all the bovine excrete in the world will never change that

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:07pm

Neanderthals became 'isolated' and developed distinctly different for a long while in Europe AND the Middle-East.
They, in essence - lived in a Cave.

But the Sapiens nomadically ventured out into the world from Africa into the middle-East and beyond.

The Neanderthals were habitually 'territory' orientated, possibly shy, etc.

Aboriginals were considered 'Nomadic' and yet they weren't.
They never ventured off an Island and basically just shuffled around for 60,000 years in the same spot.
Island, Cave ...same thing.

So let's face it.
The best way to live is 'Grey Nomad' ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Frank on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:24pm

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.793167

Man may not be all it’s cracked up to be. Homo sapiens, it turns out, had sex with other hominins: Neanderthal and Denisovan, certainly, and possibly a whole host of others. We just haven’t found their remains yet, explains Prof. Svante Pääbo, father of paleogenetics and the first to fully sequence the Neanderthal and find some of him lurking in our genes.
It’s all the rage to have our genes analyzed and share our personal percentage of Neanderthal DNA on Facebook. Among all non-Africans tested so far, about 2 percent of the genome is Neanderthal. Homo sapiens mated with them after leaving Africa, very possibly in Israel.
Asians have yet more genes from a second extinct human species, the Denisovans. Certain Pacific Islanders have a genetic signal from a third, and there may be yet more unknown human species lurking in our ancestry.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.793167

This was recently discussed on the ABC in relation to revisions of the length of aboriginal presence and possible waves of migration on DNA evidence.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:45pm

I read somewhere that aborigines in Victoria briefly established eel farming. Might have been a Jared Diamond book.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

The orientals once lived in the snow country near the Arctic Circle where Nature slitted their eyes just as the Eskimos have 'snow-glasses' that are a slit in carved bone.

The big mystery is where did the Pacific Islanders come from before they took refuge on the islands of Oceania. Needless to say their large and lumbering physical attributes are totally unsuited to living on tropical islands where coastal sea foods would have been their main diet, and where their sheer bulk would have been a handicap that gave them no natural advantages.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Unless they got into a fight.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Unless they got into a fight.

Hardly.

Their size gave them no advantage due to the fact their antagonists were just as large.

Needing to feed their Triple-X bulk meant greater depletion of the coastal waters for seemingly no natural advantage.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:38pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:23am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Apparently modern humans were a lot more nomadic. Aborigines for example used caves, but didn't live in them permanently.

Nothing worth reading here, folks, just move along, move along. It's just Valkie as usual, showing his racism for everybody to see. Indigenous Australians lived in huts in Victoria. Indeed, there was a settlement as large as many European towns. They lived off Aquaculture, farming eels. Indigenous Australians practised agriculture in NSW. Not all Indigenous Australians were nomadic, hunter-gatherers. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:42pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

I read somewhere that aborigines in Victoria briefly established eel farming. Might have been a Jared Diamond book.

Not "briefly" at all, FD. The township discovered in Victoria by archaeologists lasted thousands of years. Australia was and is a vast continent. Settlement patterns varied across its length and width. Fish traps have been discovered in Tasmania, in the North-West, in the Top End, down the East Coast. This has all been well documented. Time to leave your stereotypes behind. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Polynesian DNA analysis shows ancestry from Tawian.

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Genomic insights into the peopling of the Southwest Pacific

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v538/n7626/full/nature19844.html One theory is that as they populated the islands by boat then strength and bulk would have given the bigger ones an evolutionary advantage.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 1:53am

seems aboriginal Australians baked bread.

Kangaroo grass is now being used in replication of ancient practices.

Very manually intensive... superior bread, apparently.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:55am

Emma wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

seems aboriginal Australians baked bread.

Kangaroo grass is now being used in replication of ancient practices.

Very manually intensive... superior bread, apparently.

yes, they built rocket ships too.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:55am

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Polynesian DNA analysis shows ancestry from Tawian.

Quote:

Genomic insights into the peopling of the Southwest Pacific

Exactly.

Those big, lumbering, blubber people are not native to the islands, but were invaders who no doubt soon barbecued and ate any indigenous people they happened to come across as they pushed on further south in Oceania.

It was sheer luck that these cannibal warrior-horrors didn't step onto Australia's shores to snack upon the locals.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 11:03am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

I read somewhere that aborigines in Victoria briefly established eel farming. Might have been a Jared Diamond book.

A bunch of rocks concluded by one researcher to have constituted a village. No doubt some Aboriginals used fish traps but the extrapolation to settled farming communities is ridiculous.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 11:13am

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

A bunch of rocks concluded by one researcher to have constituted a village. No doubt some Aboriginals used fish traps but the extrapolation to settled farming communities is ridiculous.

Come on! Stop being a racist! We all know our Abos were rocket scientists before the British arrived and massacred their best brains.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

seems aboriginal Australians baked bread.

Kangaroo grass is now being used in replication of ancient practices.

Very manually intensive... superior bread, apparently.

yes, they built rocket ships too.

Oh, dearie,dearie, me. Care to provide a link to where that was claimed, Rhino? Tsk, tsk, your racism is showing again... ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 5:28pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:55am:

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Polynesian DNA analysis shows ancestry from Tawian.

Quote:

Genomic insights into the peopling of the Southwest Pacific

It is believed that they did and found the locals more than a match for them, Herbie. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 5:30pm

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

I read somewhere that aborigines in Victoria briefly established eel farming. Might have been a Jared Diamond book.

A bunch of rocks concluded by one researcher to have constituted a village. No doubt some Aboriginals used fish traps but the extrapolation to settled farming communities is ridiculous.

Museum of Victoria recognises it, Rhino. Archaeologists across Australia recognise it. Tsk, tsk, so, you're now an archaeology expert as well as an expect on the defence forces, Muslim religion, "race" relations. Is there nothing you're not an expert on? Really? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 7:38pm

Its amazing the lengths people will go to to try and "prove" the advaced technology of a pre-stone age existance.

It isnt a civilization because it was simply a collection of isolated family tribes incapable of getting together long enough to advance beyond primitive pre-stone age.

We get, so called, archeologists telling us that a few rocks strewn around the place indicates an advanced aquaculture many years ago.
Well, what happened, had the aboriginals reached their apex and then collapsed back into primitive?

It is far easier to believe that the race eradicated by the invading aborigines were the bright ones and after their genocide, the aboriginies could not make it work.

No matter how many time you say it, no matter how much (manufactured) evidence of advancement beyond pre-stone age, it will never make it true.

No wonder they have trouble fitting in.
Its like an amoeba trying to advance to a bird.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 7:59pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Unless they got into a fight.

Hardly.

Their size gave them no advantage due to the fact their antagonists were just as large.

That's how natural selection works. Only a slight difference can mean the difference between life and death. On Islands in particular, the population is always too small for organised warfare to develop. Thus individual brute strength counts more than organisational ability.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Run along, Valkie. Stop displaying your ignorance. It is embarrassing to watch a grown man act as foolish and ignorant as you appear to delight in. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

freediver wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

There was not nearly enough fighting between the Pacific Islanders for Nature to then tweak their genes to produce a better model of fighter.

Of far more urgency was the ability to harvest the coastal waters for sea food and the sandy land for root crops and the like.

Being of huge bulk militated against them settling into crudely-crafted canoes to fish from.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:50pm

Actually, there is a place in WAust where the Aboriginals 'carved' possibly the first 'pillared' structure into rock. As you can see - the time it would have taken, but cleverly conceived. Provided a very good 'first up' effort for anyone to achieve.

thXVD7EILS.jpg (14 KB | 66 )

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:06pm

As for Polynesians (Pineapples) - well they are only 'big & fat' NOW because they pig out on Maccas, etc.
Before that - their physiology of going long distances over long periods between islands provided them with the ability to last longer than other peoples.
Example: (taken from 'In the Heart of the Sea' book, that inspired Moby Dick) - In a life raft for 93 days, the various attributes of different races came into being. It was said that the 'Negro' Whalers were the first to die of starvation because of the very minimal fat content in their system. Then, the White men would die and the Polynesians would last the longest - because they were used to it over a period of 800 years.
Now though, their 'physical' adaption now 'bites them in the big bum' with junk food.

Neanderthal 'genes' also provide the extra retention of 'fat', but people in the modern world of 'junk food' that have the Neanderthal gene - now put on more weight easier than others.

The 'coincidence' of x3 off-shoot races (Neanderthal, Denisovian & 'mystery X') sort of represented Europe, Asia & Africa (just like Britain, Japan & Madagascar were ...'detached'. ;)

The San Bushman contain the 'most and oldest' genes passed down through they ages - yep, genetically, they've been around and amongst all the 'Ancient' races - long before a 'branch' went walkabout into Australia.
The 'youngest' Gene Pools are the Europeans (Non-Neanderthal) and Asians (Non-Denisovians).

Polynesian Pineapples come from Asia and you can see the racial & cultural similarities with the Anu of Japan (Nippon) and the Borneans of (Indonesia).
The Melanesian 'Coconuts' have been around far longer than the Polynesians even farted out of Asia - out towards the 'far pacific' of Oceania.
The Melanesians mostly stuck in the region of Sahul, around the outskirts of the more older Aboriginals that were based in Australia.
It is said that the Aboriginals are very closely related to 'Caucasians' too - genetically linked to the 'Caucasus Mountain' area when they started their migration east through India. Hence the 'caucasoid' WAVY HAIR, rather than the Curly or Straight fibres of Negroid/Melanesian and Mongoloid.

In essence though - the success of the Homo Sapiens was due to both their genetic variety and cultural versatility.
Yep - the most successful race was the MONGREL, not the Pure-Blood.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 12:16am

rhino wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

seems aboriginal Australians baked bread.

Kangaroo grass is now being used in replication of ancient practices.

Very manually intensive... superior bread, apparently.

yes, they built rocket ships too.

NO BS at all Rhino. It was a show Landline on ABC.

Not talking 'yeasty bread', obviously.
Just flour , water, and maybe some fat.
Like Damper.??? Heard of that?

An indigenous couple are producing and selling this flour, and cannot keep up with the demand.
If you had any idea what Kangaroo grass is, you'd understand just what a task this is.
Good on 'm.
I love Kangaroo grass, and it grows naturally on my property but the yield? Mind-blowing. but it makes sense, given how determined and skilled the people are at living off the land.
Recent Cave Art findings NOW are being dated at 65,000yrs ago.
I only saw them briefly on the News, but they are ,,,,,..........so ..um gripping, so immediate, they are very powerful.
I'd love to see them again soon. May have to wait for that.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 12:20am

I love aboriginal foods.
I haven't heard of Kangaroo Grass before.
Gotta look into that one!
Sounds yummy :)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 12:34am

well as I said they spoke to two elders who were producing this flour. WA I think.
Good luck with that. :)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 7:13pm

While the Incas were building their castles in the clouds.

Abbos were burning things and throwing sticks at animals.

While the Egyptians were building civilizations and pyramids,

Abbos were burning things and throwing sticks at animals.

While the Romans build one of the largest and most influential civilization on earth,

Abbos were burning things and throwing sticks at animals

While the Chinese dynasties grew and evolved into massive and formidable civilizations,

Abbos were burning things and throwing sticks at animals.

While the British empire grew and advanced nmany civilizations throughout the world,

Abbos burned things and threw sticks at animals.

Now as Australia grows and advances into the future

Abbos burn things, throw down copious quantities of grog and drugs and hold out their hands for more.

Yep, quite a record of advancement I must say.

No written word
No stone age tools
No architecture
No real art, just dots on a piece of bark
No real musical instruments, just some sticks and a hollow log (even a 3 year old knows how to make noise with a hollow object)

Just what do they have that is worthwhile?

Anything?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Actually Valkie

While the Aboriginals were probably the most 'culturally' advanced of all the early people's, even the ancient Hominids still hanging around in patches. Most of all the other Sapien tribes were still a couple of stone tools short of the picnic.

Now it seems, that occupation in Australia came from around 65,000 years ago.
That's amazing.
But as for other civilisations 'catching up' then advancing past Aboriginal culture.
Well you got to remember that for 10-15,000 years - the Australia continent 'dried out' considerably due to a massive Ice Age. It basically scuttled the Aboriginal existence from 'Living' to 'surviving'.
This is where their culture stagnated and nearly died.
Even 'white people' in Rural Towns struggle to exist even after a 10 year drought. Besides many 'suicides', many leave. So try dealing with that for 10,000 years! That's longer than the History of the so-called 'Civilised World'.

What British Colonisation came up against was an Aboriginal culture that was a 'shadow' of its former self. It's Golden Age had long gone.

Who knows - maybe 50,000 years ago. Migrations of Sapiens ventured out of Africa and into the 'promised Land' of Australia ...as they followed the water's edge of the Indian Ocean.

Yeah sure - the Aboriginals racked up just 50 points while everyone could only manage 1 point.
But they held that 50 points for 85% of the time, until in the last 15% (5,000 years) - everyone finally surpassed them to reach 200 points.

Yep - they lead the field by 25 lengths for the entire circuit until coming down the straight, when the pack 'finally' over-took them.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:09pm

There is no evidence that Aboriginals were ever more advanced than any other homo sapiens. Thats just rubbish. They have always been the least advanced of the races.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:50pm

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:09pm:

There is no evidence that Aboriginals were ever more advanced than any other homo sapiens. Thats just rubbish. They have always been the least advanced of the races.

What a croc! ;D
Even the Sapiens in Europe couldn't do a cave painting until just 10,000 years ago.

I think the Aboriginals just died of boredom waiting for the rest of the world to catch up. ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:02am

The earliest known cave paintings come from Sulawesi, not Australia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/09/science/ancient-indonesian-find-may-rival-oldest-known-cave-art.html

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by freediver on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 4:48pm

Suppose you were transported back in time to Australia before European settlement and you wanted to set up a more advanced civilisation. What would you start with? Farming instead of hunting?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

How much fighting would there need to be?

How much fighting do you think there was?

Are you just making it up as you go along?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Un bah leave a bull.

Some people will do anything to try and prop up what is a primitive pre-stoneage group of misfits.
There was no civilization, they were too busy killing each other, and setting fire to things.

Culturally advanced?
What tha?
They are about as advanced as a cane toad.

Your explanation brings to mind a joke I once heard.

Three men were sitting around taliking about advanced civilizations.
One said
" In England we dug down several metres and found evidence of copper wire, I conclude that this is evidence of an advanced civilization from 500 years ago using copper wire for communications"

The second guy said.
"Well thats nothing, in the USA we dug even deeper and found copper wire and concluded that over 1000 years ago our people were using copper wire for communications"

The third guy, an Abbo said.
"Well we dug even deeper and found nothing, leading us to conclude that over 10000 years ago we were using wireless communication"

Just because some rocks were piled on top of each other does not indicate advanced civilization.
Advanced civilizations build artwork, buildings and monuments that celebrate their advanced nature.
There is nothing, not one single solitary thing that the aboriginals have made as a monument to their culture or civilization, nuffink at all.

Just accept that the Australian Aboriginals were, are and will always be a failed race.
They never advanced even beyond pre-stone age, simply because they didnt have to.
Life was easy, there was no freezing winters to require shelter.
There were no massive animals that they had to protect themselves from.
There was no other civilizations that wanted to take over, requiring them to advance or die.

They have simply existed, laziness is inbred into them after a millennia of being lazy and with an easy lifestyle.

Perhaps it can be bread out in time, but from what we see, even after 200 years, its not happening yet and may take a long long time.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:25pm

Ha! ;D
You're a joker Valkie, for sure.

The Aboriginal existence wasn't 'civilisation' in the 'city' context (though many cities 'now' are very un-civilised existences).

They were far more advanced than everywhere else for a very long time in comparison.
Mesolithic Europe couldn't even make a Stone Axe for another 30,000 years before Aboriginals did.

http://www.sapiens.org/archaeology/ground-edge-ax-human-origins-australia/

As for being 'lazy' - well, maybe if you treat them like 'African-Americans', maybe they are ...as any 'labourer' from any race would be. :P

Most of their cultural aspect was more 'mental' work.
The ability to turn many parts of Australia into a 'Park-Land' Estate provided the need to just use 20% of their time attaining food. No need to build 'farms' when all of the local area provided well enough.

Without Aboriginal help - the Sydney colony would have 'failed'.
Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson only succeeded in crossing the Blue Mountains because the Dharruk Tribe told them which 'track' to follow. :P
Burke & Wills were too arrogant to seek Aboriginal help and they perished like the obnoxious pompous twats they were.
Look at 'civilised' people today on shows like Survivor - and they can't even 'survive' by 'basic' methods.

You're attitude is like a Racing Car Driver who thinks he's the 'be all', but has forgotten the importance of the basics (too beneath him?) like checking the oil as something worth being important.

Sure, the last 20,000 years hasn't been too kind to Aboriginal culture - forced to 'survive' a very harsh Ice Age, rather than being able to 'live'.

I have no doubt that living with Aboriginals 30,000 years ago would have been a very 'comfortable' existence - while the rest of the world was still scratching around like 'animals'.

Maybe Sapiens, as a 'race' emerged out of North-East Africa,
but 'culture' emerged out of Australia (Sahul) first - I'm pretty sure.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:48pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Valkie, really? "No stone age tools"? What the hell do you think sits in the Museums of Australia? What do you think is found at the bottom of most caves around Australia? Stone age tools - stones in other words, stones that have been shaped and used as tools. You really are quite ignorant, aren't you? Tsk, tsk. I really don't know why he even bothers to post, I really don't. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:09pm:

There is no evidence that Aboriginals were ever more advanced than any other homo sapiens. Thats just rubbish. They have always been the least advanced of the races.

According to whom, Rhino? You? Sorry, doesn't cut it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Just more, tired old Racism. Tsk, tsk. Such ignorance, such hatred. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:01pm

Yes - the stupidity here astounds me.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

An Aboriginal can be someone of full Polish blood, but is well educated in Aboriginal cultural ways and embraces the Aboriginal 'traditional' way of life.
No different to someone taking up Politics in this Country and acting as if they are British or USAmerican. ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm

Why do you lot apologize and support the deadbeats.

Muzzos, abbos, next it will drug addicts, murderers and, heaven forbid.....politicians.

And as for stone age tools.

Even monkeys pick up sticks and rocks and use them as primitive tools.
Its sad you people try soooo hard to "prove" that aboriginals are more than they really are.
A total failure
A defeated and conqured race
Reaching their peak at "stone age" and never advancing further, in fact going backward at an amazing rate.

If europeans hadnt "invaded" Australia, most of the aboriginals alive today would not even exist.
In fact they would probably die out.
There are more aboriginals now than at any time in their history.

Lazy, as a genitic trait, is the aboriginal gene, perhaps one day they will breed out the gene, but I doubt it.

Keep dreaming about how wonderful they were.
Its all bull dust, they were primitive, nomadic family groups that failed.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Sounds like a plan
Free education
And free housing, sounds good

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Sounds like a plan
Free education
And free housing, sounds good

You beauty. I'm going to axe meself out a widgedy grub from the paperbark out back to start me on my path.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Another twattie opinion.

I've been to two schools.
One was physically violent and full of Rednecks - Aboriginals included.
Other was mentally violent and full of Gays - Aboriginals included.
The second school Aboriginals, sure they were Gay - but they were extremely very well educated and accomplished.
I didn't agree, fit in or 'succeed' at those schools.
But branching out into the world (and seeing other 'educational ways of life') - I got to see all types of Aboriginals in action and behaviour. I still do.
Even the States have their 'different' Aboriginal existences.

I think Valkie - you don't get out much.
You're too afraid to go out and take a look.

I could say that 'all' Aboriginals are like that scumbag bunch I had to punch-on heaps with in the bowels of Mt Druitt. But they are not.

Also.
Remember, the Romans had to teach the 'tree-dwelling' PRIMATIVES in England for 500 years before they even had the ability to enter a 'House' in Bath, let alone formulate a sense of English self-responsibility. :P

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:25pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mt Druitt aborigines. I know them well.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:29pm

Can I ask Jasinner , which school in the Druitt did you go to?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mt Druitt aborigines. I know them well.

Yeah - basically scumbags. But so too were most of 'all races' in that ****hole!

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:34pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mt Druitt aborigines. I know them well.

Yeah - basically scumbags. But so too were most of 'all races' in that ****hole!

I could tell you some stories. Both my sister and brother were robbed. I had fights with them. I had one shoot me in the head with a slug gun. Very rough place. Most people on here wouldn't understand.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:41pm

For those who 'Climbed Mt Druitt and survived'
I SALUTE YOU.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:43pm

Anyway.
Back to the subject.

I kinda admire the Neanderthals and how they became isolated and 'changed' considerably.

NeanderthalSkull_8_jpgc4e9d392-47f1-4b0f-affc-3eb2cef94c41Large.jpg (64 KB | 30 )

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:09pm:

There is no evidence that Aboriginals were ever more advanced than any other homo sapiens. Thats just rubbish. They have always been the least advanced of the races.

According to whom, Rhino? You? Sorry, doesn't cut it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

jasinner claimed that the age of the cave paintings made them more advanced Brian. Do you agree with this yes/no.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:45pm

What school Jasinner?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:52pm

It's looking like you are BSing Jasinner?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:52pm:

It's looking like you are BSing Jasinner?

Stop hammering on my door. I was in other topics :D

I went to Shalvey (public and high for one year)

[edit] If I know you - chances are I will have to kill you ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:01pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:52pm:

It's looking like you are BSing Jasinner?

Stop hammering on my door. I was in other topics :D

I went to Shalvey (public and high for one year)

[edit] If I know you - chances are I will have to kill you ;)

I might know you because I went to both those schools. Remember Mrs Dark and Mrs Cole at Shalvey primary??

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:08pm

rhino wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 11:09pm:

There is no evidence that Aboriginals were ever more advanced than any other homo sapiens. Thats just rubbish. They have always been the least advanced of the races.

According to whom, Rhino? You? Sorry, doesn't cut it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

jasinner claimed that the age of the cave paintings made them more advanced Brian. Do you agree with this yes/no.

Like I said Rhino.
Early Aboriginal culture was the first to get to 50 points and stay there for the majority of the race-course (as if like Horse racing), while all others plodded along on just a few points of ability. Then, in just the last 10,000 years things changed. The Aboriginals remained on 50 and 'stopped'. The others raced past just as they turned down the straight and managed to finish with 200 points, many with just 100 points.

The trick is 'isolationism'. The Nips in Nihon (Japan) felt the effects of 'isolationism' - so too does Zimbabwe, Libya & North Korea. Aboriginals endured 30,000 years worth, possibly longer.
The Neanderthals experienced a long isolation too and hence even 'developed' differently too as a gene pool.

Cultural 'stimulation' is everything. The Vikings explored and traded throughout Europe and into the Middle-East and into India for 800 years before they developed the 'Long Boat' which allowed them to 'invade inland'.
They even traded in Istanbul. (*see: "HalfDan was here" graffiti in Mosque)

Genetic or Racial stimulation is everything as well. It was this 'mongrelling' of their genetic gene pool that made modern Homo Sapiens the success they are today.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:09pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:52pm:

It's looking like you are BSing Jasinner?

Stop hammering on my door. I was in other topics :D

I went to Shalvey (public and high for one year)

[edit] If I know you - chances are I will have to kill you ;)

I might know you because I went to both those schools. Remember Mrs Dark and Mrs Cole at Shalvey primary??

Oh ***K !! :o

...small world ain't it. ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:10pm

Mrs Dark.
Deputy Principle.
Tall, thin, 50 years of age, raven haired, short and very stern, but a good heart.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:52pm:

It's looking like you are BSing Jasinner?

Stop hammering on my door. I was in other topics :D

I went to Shalvey (public and high for one year)

[edit] If I know you - chances are I will have to kill you ;)

I might know you because I went to both those schools. Remember Mrs Dark and Mrs Cole at Shalvey primary??

Oh ***K !! :o

...small world ain't it. ;)

It can be Jasinner. Shalvey is a tough part of town. Cheers.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

Mrs Dark.
Deputy Principle.
Tall, thin, 50 years of age, raven haired, short and very stern, but a good heart.

Tall and short?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

Mrs Dark.
Deputy Principle.
Tall, thin, 50 years of age, raven haired, short and very stern, but a good heart.

Used to ring the bell. Reminded of a witch.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:13pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

Mrs Dark.
Deputy Principle.
Tall, thin, 50 years of age, raven haired, short and very stern, but a good heart.

Tall and short?

Tall I suppose. Everybody is tall when a kid.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

Mrs Dark.
Deputy Principle.
Tall, thin, 50 years of age, raven haired, short and very stern, but a good heart.

Tall and short?

Tall I suppose. Everybody is tall when a kid.

;D
I never thought of it like that.
I think she was tall compared to other teachers.
I'm trying to remember other teachers through the cobwebs of my mind.
I remember meeting the then Principle, later in life.
He was promoted to a senior role on the Education Department.
Hmm?
I wonder if the 'big tree' is still there on the top field?
Mrs Humpries or Bampton???
So hard to remember.
I got it!!
Principle was Mr Downard! ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:33pm

...now what are the chances that
Mr Hammer & JaSinner
actually had a fight at Shalvey Primary back then?
Being in Mt Druitt - highly likely ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Nothing to see here, just Valkie's tired old racism and bigotry on display. Not even worth bothering to read really. Tsk, tsk. "Stone age tools" are stones, shaped to form a tool, Valkie. Indigenous Australians were adapt at doing that. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:48pm

It's adept you drongo.

And you presume to give pompous lectures on the spelling of other posters?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Depends on what you're after. Hammer. Most benefits require you to be accepted by your local mob as Indigenous Australian. Somehow, I doubt many Indigenous Australians would want much to do with an openly bigoted, racist, Islamophobic person like you. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

Nope, other people of other "races" can be bigoted or racist as well, SW. However, it appears many "whities" (as you term them) are rather adept at opening their mouths online and revealing that they are, whereas most black fellas don't. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

When did online sneak in? Read back your response and what you responded to.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

opening their mouths online and revealing that they are, whereas most black fellas don't????

;D ;D ;D You aren't looking hard enough. Check out Minnesota Boy on youtube muppet. There's loads of racism floating around from non white people. Most of it directed at white people funnily enough.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:47pm

Considering that 'racism' was invented by India via its Hindu 'caste' system - anyone can be a racist.
(West Africans invented Slavery - what goes around...)

I'm sure Neanderthals were subjected to Racism after Sapiens took control of the Middle-East and then Europe and became a 'confident' majority.
I'm sure Neanderthal's as a minority were then 'hunted' down as Ogres & Trolls that hid in their caves, because they also 'looked different'.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 6:56pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

In fact my friend, I have a couple of abbo mates.
One, who lives in Purfleet (those who know will understand) is a white abbo.
Rebellious, angry and honestly believes he shoukd be entitled to everything and anything because he is part abbo.

The other is much darker, not a full abbo either, he is from the NT and when I visited him I was shocked at the conditions he and his lot were living in.

Both went to school with me, both are good mates, but while I do not judge, I do observe.
The first loves destroying everything, because he believes if its not his they dont deserve it.
In short he is a turd.

The other is beyond easy going, nothing matters to him, he just exists and has no interest in anything.
Its sad, and hevlooks 20 years older than he is.

These are the only two abbos I really know, but observation of the ones at Redfern before they were relocated, the ones at Purfleet and the ones up north have given me what I consider a good idea of their makeup.

I love my mates and would do anything for them.
But when it all comes down to it, they are a race simply waiting to become extinct.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

When did online sneak in? Read back your response and what you responded to.

It hasn't "snuck in". You asked me to define what I was saying, I have defined it more fully, thats all. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

Why widen the conversation to include someone from the US, Hammer? Unable to find many Indigenous Australians online? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

When did online sneak in? Read back your response and what you responded to.

It hasn't "snuck in". You asked me to define what I was saying, I have defined it more fully, thats all. ::)

Oh it as snuck in all right, you tried to change the parameters when you realised what a stupid thing you had just said.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

Why widen the conversation to include someone from the US, Hammer? Unable to find many Indigenous Australians online? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Black fellas?? Loads of black fellas live in the states. Your comment look's rather racist to me Brian

opening their mouths online and revealing that they are, whereas most black fellas don't????

That's rubbish. Plenty of blackfellas are writing racist stuff online.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

I don't even know what an aboriginal is. Most are multi racial.

So if I study up on aboriginality and become one too?

Yes, only whitey can be bigoted or racist. 8-)

That's Brian's credo writ large.

Why widen the conversation to include someone from the US, Hammer? Unable to find many Indigenous Australians online? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Run along, Hammer, run along. Your racism has been noted (again). ::) ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:45pm

If Abos are so 'primative'.
Why does the British Govt pay them money for nothing.
While the British 'convict' keeps chipping at rocks.
;D
I guess they had something 'superior' that some white people never had -
A country to themselves.
;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 12:41am

Jasin wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:45pm:

'cause otherwise their life expectancy would be 20?

Well - BRO - you can always tell Whartie to shove his Captain Cook handouts..... an' go yo' own way dere.... cetch det kangaroo fo' dinnah!

Nah ..BRO .. hah menneh o' yo' kids gon' survarve? An yo' elders live pas' twenna- fa?

You pissants don't ever seem to realise that without 'the wharte man' you'd be dead before you are twenty in most cases.... but dat ol' Captain Cook, him big fella.. he give dem health card an' Captain Cook money fo' livin', Bro.. you get dat health an' dental an' food free dere... an' Ol' Whartie.. yeah .. he jes' exp-loit dem people, ye' know.. mek 'em not work fo' dere dinnah.. mek 'em cause stealin' t' jest get bah, bro..

Yeah dat Captain Cook - he one bad fellah...

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 12:49am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 12:41am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:45pm:

Quite astonishingly blatant racism. Breathtaking ignorance. Sorry to break it you Graps but it's not the done think to talk like that these days.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:06am

Ah - so I shoot down a duck-jhead, and you attack me....

OK - now we know the rules...

Sorry to tell you - this is NOT Political Animal and its free range ferals....

Clear points or go home and sulk.

"Quite astonishingly blatant racism. Breathtaking ignorance."

Please explain???? General comments of a negative nature are not acceptable forms of discussion....

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:15am

Are you denying that that was offensively racist and ignorant?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:18am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:15am:

Are you denying that that was offensively racist and ignorant?

Are YOU? Are YOU stating that the opposite view stated was not offensively racist and ignorant?

What do you think real discussion of real issues is? A training exercise?

(gotcha, kid)......

Where is your explanation of how MY comments are racist etc - but where the other comments are not?

Same applies to 'Muslim sperm'....

I'm waiting... but it's nearly time to go to bed....

How much do they pay you people to sit there and try to argue non- issues in the dead hours of the night?

**I am NOT your OCC training officer - but I should be.... you'd learn one hell of a lot more.**

Give me your full rendition of the questions I've raised - or go to bed.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:33am

Honestly Grap, if you're oblivious to how what you typed is racist, you've not been paying attention to how much society has changed since the seventies.

I honestly don't know how to even begin explaining it to you.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:49am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

You think racism is funny? Just because racism isn't funny, doesn't mean that what is considered PC is without any humour at all.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:52am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:49am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

You think racism is funny? Just because racism isn't funny, doesn't mean that what is considered PC is without any humour at all.

Are you OK with these?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/szm4h/australian_englishman_and_irishman_man_are/
or these?
https://www.writerscentre.com.au/blog/33-best-irish-jokes/

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

To a point. You need to ask what the motivation of the humour is. Is it to denigrate, belittle and misrepresent an already vulnerable group of people?

Is it to diminish hatred, prejudice , abuse and/or ignorance?

If so, i think you need to ask yourself why you think it's funny.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

So, about those Irish jokes etc, what is your view?
The motivation of humour is to laugh. Remember Steady Eddy? Is it OK for non seriously autistic people to tell his jokes? Why not? If only he can tell them, is it OK for non-autistic people to laugh or should he only tell his jokes to other autistic people?

Over emphasis on peoples feelings to suppress others thoughts and expression is just wank. Control your own damned feelings and stop being a sook. The world doesn't owe your feelings anything.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:17am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

Did you not understand my joke about motivation?

Not all jokes about races are malignantly racist.

I don't find any humour in representing any group of people by their worst case scenarios and belittling the whole for it. Especially not when such significant power imbalances exist.

And Steady Eddie isn't autistic. He has cerebral palsy. No, it is not cool for fully-abled people to make fun of people with cerebral palsy. Their motivation is too open to suspicion.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am

And who said anything about over-emphasis? Isn't the right not to be horribly insulted and denigrated for something you have no control over pretty close to the surface of things to consider before opening your damn mouth?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:24am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

Where was you joke? I must have missed it.

Is it OK for Eddy to tell jokes to non CP people and for them to laugh? Is it OK for black people to tell black jokes and white people laugh? Is it OK for women to tell sexist jokes about women and men to laugh?

This is why I seriously dislike PC, it's thought police. You must think only what we tell you to think or you are a bad person. If it's not OK for Grap to make fun of whatever it must be just as wrong to make fun of him. If you want to see evidence of this sort of PC, read Greg.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:25am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

Leave that bottle alone, gal.... ain' gon' do you no good...

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:28am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:25am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

Leave that bottle alone, gal.... ain' gon' do you no good...

Haven't touched a drop.

Can you argue with what i said? Or are you just in it to insult me?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police. How do you know you are certain enough that you are right to hold others accountable, just your feelings on the matters?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am

What are "dangerous stereotypes"?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am:

What are "dangerous stereotypes"?

In what Grap wrote? Are you serious?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:39am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

No. You brought up PC. I have kept it to what i think is funny or not.

If you want my thoughts on PC and how i truly believe it be a Machiavellian scheme of the far right, start a thread on it.

This is all about Grap's post. His right (as you are advocating for) to post it versus my right to call him a racist for it and warning him that he my get himself into similar trouble should he voice similar sentiments again, wherever he does.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

He was stereotyping with an abo accent, is that racist? Stereotypes exist for a reason. If he was being malicious, which I don't think he was, it would be a different story. You can call him racist to your hearts content but I don't think what he said was. There are others here that say shyte I would agree are racist.

My point is just because it may hurt someone's feelings doesn't mean you are responsible for their feelings.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

Well you and i are going to have to agree to disagree. I think it was profoundly racist and incredibly insulting.

Would he say that to an Aboriginal person? If he did, what do you think the response would be?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

Wow.. so all 'rights' are purely dependent on the person wishing to make a statement....

Now that's a quantum leap in reality.....

I feel - ergo... it must be.... the absolutely false premise on which 'feminism' and all its fellow travelers in social destruction of OUR society ride....

Welcome to Realityworld.....

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:47am

And they don't like being referred to as "abos". For a number of very good reasons.

Make of that what you will.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:48am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

No. That's a quantum leap in perception.

I said nothing of the sort.

Stop inventing arguments that i have made in this and the other thread and address what i have actually posted.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:55am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

It would depend on the person. Some don't like how their fellow aboriginals live and blame the white man for everything wrong in their lives. I've done work for an organisation that despair at the way their people on the mission out Bonalbo way behave.

They used to have a medical centre, they trashed it, my son did part of his nursing prac there(not the medical centre, the mission, the medical centre is trashed). What are you doing here white c@nt? Should he have answered "to try and help your useless black arses?"

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:59am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

It would depend on the person. Some don't like how their fellow aboriginals live and blame the white man for everything wrong in their lives. I've done work for an organisation that despair at the way their people on the mission out Bonalbo way behave.

They used to have a medical centre, they trashed it, my son did part of his nursing prac there. What are you doing here white c@nt? Should he have answered "to try and help your useless black arses?"

And some white people behave very badly.

Would you like to be continuously, widely, and categorically associated with them by default? To perpetuate the myth that you to are like that? That you are put into the position of hastily qualifying that you are not?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:14am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:59am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

It would depend on the person. Some don't like how their fellow aboriginals live and blame the white man for everything wrong in their lives. I've done work for an organisation that despair at the way their people on the mission out Bonalbo way behave.

They used to have a medical centre, they trashed it, my son did part of his nursing prac there. What are you doing here white c@nt? Should he have answered "to try and help your useless black arses?"

That they do! Then you get shows like housos, how dare they stereotype! Do you think they are paying out on you?

No but I would not mind it pointed out at all. If people were paying out on those useless white @#!% I wouldn't take it to mean me, just because they were white.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:19am

'nite Mothra.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:21am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:14am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:59am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

It would depend on the person. Some don't like how their fellow aboriginals live and blame the white man for everything wrong in their lives. I've done work for an organisation that despair at the way their people on the mission out Bonalbo way behave.

They used to have a medical centre, they trashed it, my son did part of his nursing prac there. What are you doing here white c@nt? Should he have answered "to try and help your useless black arses?"

Housos is very clever in the way it satirises. It does so to such ridiculous extremes that it manages to avoid offending any one person at all.

No doubt people that see themselves in that show are able to distance themselves enough from the end-result that they can laugh good-naturedly.

Australian humour is often very good at this and there is some great stuff that pokes fun at Aboriginal stereotypes. Just some stereotypes aren't even a little bit funny. In the same way that rape is never funny, yet murder can be.

It's motivation, innit.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by mothra on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:21am

Night Setanta ... :)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

There are several areas where Aboriginals live in Taree NSW.
Some are pure unadulterated dumps, damaged building, trash everywhere and total lack of maintenance.
The area is a no go zone for police and normal people.
The area is full of misfits and dead beats.
Welcome to Purfleet.

On the other side of the bridge there are several houses, well maintained, looked after, well mown lawns and very tidy.
These also are owned by Aboriginals.

They can do it if tgey want, but the victim mentaljty and the prompting by PC groups make the bad ones worse.

Its time to remove the teat from the Aboriginal mouth.
Stop treating them as if they are something special, they are not.
Make them live like every other Australian, no handouts, no special treatment.

If they cant make a go of it after 200 years, perhaps the culture should just die out.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:37pm

It's more than just that.
Have you seen the 'stereotypical' behaviour of Aborginals in regards to 'Political' & 'Media' Australia?
I'm sure most here are familiar with it.

Then you have Aboriginal behaviour in regards to interaction with 'Ferals' (dreadlocked, uni educated, etc).
It's a different ball-game altogether.

At the moment, I'm enjoying many programs on NITV.
But at the same time, I find it a 'disgusting' promotion of 'Anti-White' people and culture by a collective of Non-White Indigenous peoples around the world.
White people are 'Indigenous' people too. But they have spread out from their original birth-place and out into the world.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:39pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Did you live on Sedgman Crescent near the Busby's Jasin????

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Did you live on Sedgman Crescent near the Busby's Jasin????

I remember the Busby's. Just aquainted - barely.
No, I didn't live near them.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:01pm

Do you still live in 'The Druitt' Hammer?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:03pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Do you still live in 'The Druitt' Hammer?

No. Moved out when I was 17. It certainly left it's mark though.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:04pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Did you live on Sedgman Crescent near the Busby's Jasin????

I remember the Busby's. Just aquainted - barely.
No, I didn't live near them.

Near the shops. I'm just going through the Jasin's I knew.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:09pm

No, I lived back the other way towards Bidwill.
I had no friends in 'The Druitt'.
Many aquaintences.
But its not a place to make friends.
I left by 14.
Had 100 fights under my belt and was humble enough to say I won 50 of them.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:18pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

Interesting. And you left after 1 year at Shalvey High??

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

Interesting. And you left after 1 year at Shalvey High??

Yes - holding my own amongst my own age was respectful enough. Give or take a year.
But once at High School - I was copping major abuse from guys from year 10 up.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't afraid to lose.
But I was getting severely damaged.
Also my Sibling was doing it tough too.

It was just a nasty place of grub attitudes, racism, etc.

I'm glad I 'FAILED' Mt Druitt.
I'm glad I was 'too weak' to continue there.
Mt Druitt is something that is just not worth fighting for.

Then we moved to another School and away from the area a tad.
Then it was the 'reverse' - it was all about 'mental abuse' from the very well educated 'Gays'. Hardly a 'fight' erupted, but the 'mental' abuse was vicious.

So, for me - it was out of the Frying Pan and into the Fire.
But I 'failed' that system too.

I never succeeded at becoming a Redneck or a Gay.
My education was 'jilted' at both attempts.

But hey, "Something Lost, is Something Gained" ;)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:45pm

Anyway Hammer.

I don't want to talk/think about Mt Druitt anymore.
I arouses a really negative feeling in me.
I despise it.

I have more respect for Neanderthals, than Grubs.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:29pm

[quote author=Valkie

In fact my friend, I have a couple of abbo mates.
One, who lives in Purfleet (those who know will understand) is a white abbo.
Rebellious, angry and honestly believes he shoukd be entitled to everything and anything because he is part abbo.

The other is much darker, not a full abbo either, he is from the NT and when I visited him I was shocked at the conditions he and his lot were living in.

Both went to school with me, both are good mates, but while I do not judge, I do observe.
The first loves destroying everything, because he believes if its not his they dont deserve it.
In short he is a turd.

The other is beyond easy going, nothing matters to him, he just exists and has no interest in anything.
Its sad, and hevlooks 20 years older than he is.

These are the only two abbos I really know, but observation of the ones at Redfern before they were relocated, the ones at Purfleet and the ones up north have given me what I consider a good idea of their makeup.

I love my mates and would do anything for them.
But when it all comes down to it, they are a race simply waiting to become extinct.[/quote]

That is really a terribly sad post.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 6:25pm

Emma wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

That is really a terribly sad post.

[/quote]

Yes it is.

I went to school with these guys.
We all had plans and dreams.
But my Purfleet friend go involved with drugs and the bad mob.
The north friend went back to try and help his people.
But he got trapped in the cyclic self destructive ways of so many Aboriginals.

If I thought I could do anything to help my mates, I woukd.
But there is nothing I can do.
They need to do it for themselves.

And ubfortunately they just dont seem to care.

As I said, they are simply waiting to become extinct.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Valkie is just displaying his racism yet again. Tsk, tsk, so terribly sad but of course, it reinforces his dismissal of Indigenous Australians as "waiting to become extinct". ::)

You ever watch NITV, Valkie? Of course not, it presents an Indigenous Australian view of what Australia is like. I find it quite illuminating because it shows Indigenous Australians saying, "we exist, we are here, you can't kill us as easily as you thought you could!"

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Why don't you take your stoopid, retarded and inane opinions and shove them up your sphincter.

You are less than a wart on a scabies scar, you have nothing of any worth to say and you are so obsessed with your ridiculous retarded CULT that you have obviously lost your tiny little mind.

You and you childish "OH DEARY DEARY ME" or your pathetic "TSK TSK"
Honestly are you so pathetic that you cant come up with something more original than repeating the same stoopid thing over and over and over again.

If you had actually been anywhere or done anything or even been outside you tiny little flat in some obscure suburb where you are too terified to go out at night, you might just learn something of the real world.

The world (in your tiny pathetic little mind) is nothing like the real world.

Go out some day
Save your dole money and go on a trip to one of your CULTs wonderful countries and then tell me this CULT is not the CULT of evil.

Now TSK TSK and OH DEARY DEARY ME yourself off to hide under the bed you useless wart on a herpies infection.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 11:38pm

That is a classic rant V. :) ;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 11:49pm

Well.
I would rather the company of a Black Australian.

Than a black European, African, Asian (Indian), North American, etc.

Sure they may not be much in comparison to other races contributing here, but in a way - they are so much more.
Every race has its position on the field to fill - here in Team Australia.

Now. In regards to 'Neanderthal' genes in the modern era.
Has anyone seen anyone looking closely like Neanderthal?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:04am

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Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
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Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Move along folks, move along. Nothing worth looking at here, just more of Valkie's tired old ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why he bothers. He knows absolutely nothing about me personally but believes he can button hole me. Such a silly sausage. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am

Jasin wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 11:49pm:

Well, as we don't know for sure what a Neanderthal looks like, it would be a bit hard to actually see if anyone resembled them. Considering that science's ideas of what they look like were originally based on what is now realised to have been an old, crippled man's remains, its even harder.

Today, science believes they just look a little different to modern Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Heavier brow ridges and a larger brain case.

However, I have read more than enough people on this forum to believe that Neanderthal like thinking still predominates amongst some posters here. People like Rhino, Hammer, Herbie, Gordon, Soren, Geoff... ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:45am

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

There you go again.
Total lack of ability to write anything but the same old same old repeated crap you always write.

Suprise us all and find something new or possibly even intellegent to say without repeating your tired old boring and stooopid comments.

As for Pigeon holing you, to use the correct term, I know your ilk, I have dealt with them in many countries.

Frightened little men and women, too afraid to voice their real feelings and trying oh so hard to be part of some maverick group to feel tough.

Sad thing though, you aint tough.
You are simply a knowball, know nothing
With no real world experience.
Because if you had seen even half what I have seen.
You would never support muzzos and understand that our noble savages are far from noble.

Tge sad truth is that they are a dying race.
Gradually dying out or being tainted by so much white trash tgat they will cease to exist in timebin other than a faint dna of some white fella.

Run along little frightend man and as I dsaid before.
Speak to me of racism and other matters when you have actually see with your own eyes the horrors of the CULT
Not just the twisted propaganda, but the real face of this brutal, primitive and abhorrent CULT in all its glory.

Now just p##ss off and go hide under you pathetic single bed in your pathetic little rented flat.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:50am

.. is most prevalent in Muss-lims?

But I thought they were all descended from the ancient Assyrians and the Persians, who did so many wonderful things.... only trouble with a lot of those wonderful things was Mohamed got hold of the reins of violent power.... butchered people, destroyed institutions, and ordered everybody to abide by his rules or die....

And so they introduced the open sewers, high infant mortality rate and illness, massive social and economic variances, illiteracy to a high degree so the peasants would have to rely on the mullah....

A great lot, these Mohamedans... well stone the chicks....

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:29pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:44pm

Yes - the Neanderthals covered most of the Middle-East and Europe. The Denisovians were over in Asia. Some off-shoot African species were west of the Rift Valley. Three slightly different early Genus that were evolving separately from each other.
Then the Homo Sapiens of what we are today kinda just sprung out of the Rift Valley area apparently and spread out into the world.
Obviously they inter-bred with those three species and eventually out-bred them. Later, probably genocided them?
The original 'natives' of the British Isles were hunted to extinction from the incoming Europeans. Only a handful of females were kept as 'concubines'. All the males were 'hunted out', by the incoming Tribes. There is more Neanderthal genes swimming around today in Britain, than there is of these 'natives' or 'Indigenous' Sapien tribes.

The four major Tribes of Europe in the Modern era before the discovery of the New Worlds were - Latin (South), Scandinavian (North), Celtic (West) and Slavic (East).
The Brunette 'North' look is now 2/3rds of the European population.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

You have been owned
You cannot dispute me so you simply insult me and say the same old tired statement.

You are mine beatch

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by jeez on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:41pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:44pm:

You are a wealth on information. What do you do in your spare time.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:44pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

You have been owned
You cannot dispute me so you simply insult me and say the same old tired statement.

You are mine beatch

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Why would I bother to dispute statements which are demonstrably incorrect? You are so far beneath my notice you really aren't worth bothering with, Valkie. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:45pm

I'm finally flattered.
Thankyou. JEEZ

I work as a Labourer.
But instead of hanging out in a TAB for mental stimulation
(like White Collars go to gyms for physical stimulation).

I've just kept my mind 'stimulated' (which is good if you don't want dementia when you are older) over the decades with much reading and research.
My favourite topic is 'The Big Picture' - something of an understanding as to 'why' the world is the way it is and where it is trying to get to.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by jeez on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:49pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Keep searching JaSIn I am sure the answer is out their, just don't expect to be the answer you wanted, its give and take.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:56pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Keep searching JaSIn I am sure the answer is out their, just don't expect to be the answer you wanted, its give and take.

Oh trust me. It's never the answer I want.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 5:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

You have been owned
You cannot dispute me so you simply insult me and say the same old tired statement.

You are mine beatch

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Why would I bother to dispute statements which are demonstrably incorrect? You are so far beneath my notice you really aren't worth bothering with, Valkie. ::) ::)

OWNED BIATCH

YOU IS OWNED

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:00pm

Valkie you are starting to sound like ne of those guys in Prison who say's he isn't GAY because he only gives it, not receives it.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:14pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:00pm:

Valkie you are starting to sound like ne of those guys in Prison who say's he isn't GAY because he only gives it, not receives it.

Not exactly sure what you mean.

While I have no problem with the LGBTIQRAGGMOPP group
I still dont find men attractive.

But

I OWN BWYANNNNNNNNNNNN

BECAUSE HE CANT DISPUTE, GIVE A WINNING ARGUMENT OR EVEN CHAANGE HIS INFANTILE ONE LINE STATEMENTS.

But I guess when someone like him exists, not lives, but exists in his lonely little world.
Anything woukd have to be better than reality.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Karnal on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:31pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:00pm:

Valkie you are starting to sound like ne of those guys in Prison who say's he isn't GAY because he only gives it, not receives it.

Not exactly sure what you mean.

Oh, I know.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

However, I have read more than enough people on this forum to believe that Neanderthal like thinking still predominates amongst some posters here. People like Rhino, Hammer, Herbie, Gordon, Soren, Geoff... ::)

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:44pm

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

You're quite right Rhino.
They did have bigger brains than homo-Sapiens.
Alas, they were so isolated as a species for so long and set in their 'comfortable' ways - that they couldn't adapt to change. The change being the incoming waves of homo-Sapiens.

...there's a lesson to be learned for Australians here.
Incoming waves of new peoples and can Australian's CHANGE?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:49pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:44pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

The evidence seems to be that they integrated because a tiny bit of them lives on in most white people. But youve got it the wrong way round, its up to the immigrants to adapt, thats the lesson for them.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:51pm

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:44pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Adapt to what Rhino?
Australia: Ruled by the UK and populated by people who live like Americans?
;D
Even the Feral Australians have to wear Dreadlocks and look like Aboriginals just to get by in this country.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:58pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:51pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:44pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Adapt to what Rhino?
Australia: Ruled by the UK and populated by people who live like Americans?
;D

You mean a politically stable democracy which has evolved to have one of the highest standards of living in the world, highest literacy levels, worlds best health care and a wealthy highly evolved techology based society. Yes they must adapt or dont come.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:51pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:44pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Adapt to what Rhino?
Australia: Ruled by the UK and populated by people who live like Americans?
;D

Not bad. It's like how life is good for someone living at home under the parent's (UK) roof. ;)
;D

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Bigger does not necessarily equate to better, Rhino. Gorillas, Dolphins, Orca, Whales all have bigger brains than humans. Seen any of them doing better? ::)

Homo Sapiens Sapiens translates to "Wise Humans". Not too sure about how wise we are generally but we certainly are smart.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Bigger does not necessarily equate to better, Rhino. Gorillas, Dolphins, Orca, Whales all have bigger brains than humans. Seen any of them doing better? ::)

Gorillas brains are about one third the size of humans, as for Dolphins Orcas and Whales when adjusted for body to brain ratio they all have smaller than humans.

Quote:

Homo Sapiens Sapiens translates to "Wise Humans". Not too sure about how wise we are generally but we certainly are smart.

Judging on this post Brian if i was you i wouldnt be claiming to be a wise man.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by JaSinner on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:17pm

Orcas have a bigger brain in regards to a 'different' brain that does things for the Orca that humans can't possibly do or achieve. Humans are yet to live permanently in the oceans.

Once, 'communication' is made with Orca ...I'm pretty sure they will be very fast learners and soon we may indeed be sharing this planet with 'another intelligent being'.
Now wouldn't that be a challenge for Humanity to accept if it thinks it deserves to live out amongst the stars.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 12:59pm

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Bigger does not necessarily equate to better, Rhino. Gorillas, Dolphins, Orca, Whales all have bigger brains than humans. Seen any of them doing better? ::)

Gorillas brains are about one third the size of humans, as for Dolphins Orcas and Whales when adjusted for body to brain ratio they all have smaller than humans.

Physically, they are larger than humans. Using your ORIGINAL criteria, that should make them smarter...

Quote:

[quote]Homo Sapiens Sapiens translates to "Wise Humans". Not too sure about how wise we are generally but we certainly are smart.

Judging on this post Brian if i was you i wouldnt be claiming to be a wise man.
[/quote]

I don't. I am subject as other people to emotions, Rhino. Just as you are. However, I keep them in check and think my way out of the situation, unlike you. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 8:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 12:59pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Bigger does not necessarily equate to better, Rhino. Gorillas, Dolphins, Orca, Whales all have bigger brains than humans. Seen any of them doing better? ::)

Gorillas brains are about one third the size of humans, as for Dolphins Orcas and Whales when adjusted for body to brain ratio they all have smaller than humans.

Physically, they are larger than humans. Using your ORIGINAL criteria, that should make them smarter...

Quote:

[quote]Homo Sapiens Sapiens translates to "Wise Humans". Not too sure about how wise we are generally but we certainly are smart.

Judging on this post Brian if i was you i wouldnt be claiming to be a wise man.

I don't. I am subject as other people to emotions, Rhino. Just as you are. However, I keep them in check and think my way out of the situation, unlike you. Tsk, tsk. ::)[/quote]

Thats a lie.

You have no emotions, you simply exist.

All muzzos exist, totally dedicated to their sick twisted CULT.

They feel nothing for their women other than as a breeding machine and punching bag.

If you had emotions you would feel for the millions of muzzo women beaten every day
You would feel for the millions of female children mutilated in the name of their CULT
You would feel for the millions of people murdered in the name of the CULT
You would feel for the millions of women etoned to death by the death CULT
You would have some compassion for the victims and survivors of terrorist attacks.

No, you my friend have no emotions
You simply exist and live to be a sycophant, apologist, sympathiser muzzo lover.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

It isn't size of the brain so much as its complexity. Small complex brains are definitely smarter than larger less complex ones.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 12:59pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

Bigger does not necessarily equate to better, Rhino. Gorillas, Dolphins, Orca, Whales all have bigger brains than humans. Seen any of them doing better? ::)

Gorillas brains are about one third the size of humans, as for Dolphins Orcas and Whales when adjusted for body to brain ratio they all have smaller than humans.

Physically, they are larger than humans. Using your ORIGINAL criteria, that should make them smarter...

Quote:

[quote]Homo Sapiens Sapiens translates to "Wise Humans". Not too sure about how wise we are generally but we certainly are smart.

Judging on this post Brian if i was you i wouldnt be claiming to be a wise man.

I don't. I am subject as other people to emotions, Rhino. Just as you are. However, I keep them in check and think my way out of the situation, unlike you. Tsk, tsk. ::)[/quote]Sorry Brian, even if you adjust for brain to body ratio Gorillas have a smaller brain than us, as do all your examples. So you were wrong.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:48pm

Emma wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

It isn't size of the brain so much as its complexity. Small complex brains are definitely smarter than larger less complex ones.

Show an example.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 12:59pm:

[

I don't. I am subject as other people to emotions, Rhino. Just as you are. However, I keep them in check and think my way out of the situation, unlike you. Tsk, tsk. ::)

You post more emoticons than anyone else on this forum Brian.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:05pm

rhino wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Emma wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

It isn't size of the brain so much as its complexity. Small complex brains are definitely smarter than larger less complex ones.

Show an example.

:) Women.

IE Females. ::)

Generally accepted to be smarter than the average male. Despite having smaller skull sizes overall, and therefore brain capacity, female brains are more efficiently wired.

Oh yeah.. and crows.

They have language and manipulate tools, but can hardly be said to have a large brain.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:17pm

Emma wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:05pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Emma wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 12:48am:

Neanderthal had a bigger brain than modern humans so yes Brian, you may very well be right.

It isn't size of the brain so much as its complexity. Small complex brains are definitely smarter than larger less complex ones.

Show an example.

theres no evidence that female humans are smarter than males, or that they have a "more complex " brain. Same goes for crows. You need to stop making things up. Many animals use tools, doesnt mean their brains are more complex.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:22pm

I'd differ with you on that.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:23pm

Emma wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:22pm:

I'd differ with you on that.

facts dont lie.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Emma on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:31pm

don't make me laugh

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Rhino on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 10:42pm

To be quite honest this board is getting a bit boring for me, its no fun demolishing opinion with easily obtainable facts. Why do this to yourselves? I dont get it, just do a google first.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Valkie on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 3:27pm

Don't womenk get dumberer when they are preggas?

What's to say it don't stay that way?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by xeej on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 5:43pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We seem more ape like than monkey like, do we still have the remains of gills in our head.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

Re your link... Chimps are only one of the subset of apes.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 8:01pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

yes you may speak for yourself ,

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Setanta on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:02pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

yes you may speak for yourself ,

Yes we are all still apes, you included, some of us are even intelligent.

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:34am

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

yes you may speak for yourself ,

Yes we are all still apes, you included, some of us are even intelligent.

many blessings setanta ,

you may of and in due course speak for yourself , and yet

it is illogical and non factual to push your retarded theories on others .. just sayin there champ

........your ' mania ' is a reflection of your current level of consciousness

and a real insight into the low standard required to moderate here

and yet real proofs are posted thus

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

namaste

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Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by Gnads on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:19am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:34am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

yes you may speak for yourself ,

Yes we are all still apes, you included, some of us are even intelligent.

very judgemental of you

why? ... because reference was made to our close relationship to the great apes?

hardly like you to use that sort of tactic ... no?

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:21am

Gnads wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:34am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1474165469

Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes

We are still apes.

yes you may speak for yourself ,

Yes we are all still apes, you included, some of us are even intelligent.

very judgemental of you

why? ... because reference was made to our close relationship to the great apes?

hardly like you to use that sort of tactic ... no?

many blessings gnads ..a mere observation

as one cannot force their beliefs on another ..

to do so reflects a serious flaw in intellect and consciousness

are you in disagreement ?

im interested

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: Neanderthal DNA
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:09am

many people prefer to believe idiotic satanic freemasons and their teachings .. blindly .

and ignore ancient text .. some fools masquerading as " moderators "

wont allow you to believe what you want as well ..

wake up or stay asleep .. either way be at peace

Genesis 1:27

New International Version
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

http://www.worldwidewanderings.net/Lectures/SacredGeometry.html

http://drlindagadbois.com/decoding-sacred-geometry-the-tetragrammaton-how-the-mind-manifests-personal-reality/

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