What is the difference between British and Australian national and cultural identity
and how can non-Anglo-Saxon Australians integrate into it?
Please explain
Thank you

athos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 11:53am:

Integrate into what Australian national and cultural identity to be exact?

The Media one?
The African portal of Aboriginalism?
The Yellow race's Sporting one? Fair 'Dinkum'.

Hell, dare I say, the Slavic one that emerges here because it dies in Europe?
As for British? Well, don't Western Europeans reclaim North America.

Welcome back Athos.

You can probably educate those of us who are not from Australia

athos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 11:53am:


Phuk off CCP shill & take that other CCP shill Capitosinora with you.

Modern Britain.

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2025 at 8:53am:


freediver,

Nah.

Not really.

Today Australia is a nation of the WORLD.

Today Australia is a MULTICULTURAL nation,
and here in Australia, we have all embraced MULTICULTURAL values.

Just ask Albo.

Not so ?






Australia is NOT an Anglo nation,
and Australia has NOT retained 'Anglo' values.




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1516142236/2#2
Quote:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/NATIONAL/Australia-is-Muslim-nation-Ali-says/2006/...
live link, 2017-Jun-13

Bobby. wrote on Dec 4^th, 2025 at 7:30am:




Hi bobby,

Quote:


.......just doesn't fulfill my need to 'express' bobby.

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 4^th, 2025 at 2:41pm:





Daves2017,

Cheers.



Re bobby's opinion about the extent of my posts....

It is what it is.

'.....off a ducks back.'

athos wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 11:53am:


What is Russian cultural identity?

Dostoyevsky or Femen? Alcoholism or the gulags? Stalin or Putin?

How can the Chinese integrate into Russian cultural identity? How can Pakistanis?

[@04.05...he condemns Marxism, Nazism, and ISLAMISM]




05 min
Dec 2, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlbjsoI_wg









Australian and British culture [respect it, OR hate it...],
emerged from a society of men,
respecting the   CHARACTER   of the Jewish/Christian God,
a character which is revealed within the Jewish and Christian scriptures.


TODAY.....
Many societies in this world seem to be choosing to take a deadly path,
of not scrutinising the truth or virtue [or falseness thereof],
of many new ideals which are being presented to them.

e.g.
"ISLAM is a religion of Peace."

and.....
"Followers of ISLAM are a virtuous people."


Loss of true virtue, loss of respect for truth [and loss of righteous behaviour],
will happen when we refuse to scrutinise the cultural values which are being proffered to us,
by those who embrace a new and 'different' culture,
and when we choose to tolerate ['episodes' of] deceit, and violence.

e.g.
"ISLAM is a religion of Peace."

No, ISLAM is NOT a truthful or virtuous philosophy, imo.

e.g.



- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260


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"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
- Thomas Mann


"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
- Charles J. Chaput


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John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way,
the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Q.
But, where is the 'proof', of Jesus virtue ?

A.
What values did Jesus tell all men,
to embrace and [seek to] adhere to ?


Matthew 19:17
[Jesus said].....if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Quote:



Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14  For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.


'For this is [how we show, that] we love [of] God.....'

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.



Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.

chimera wrote on Dec 5^th, 2025 at 5:10am:



Your point is??

They were not Islamists.

chimera wrote on Dec 6^th, 2025 at 9:12am:


And your point in referring to Indian & Afghan cameleers was?


And what do you think has caused the changes in Iran & Afghanistan?

The Happy Clappers form Hillsong? 

chimera wrote on Dec 6^th, 2025 at 10:03am:



So? .... everyone knows that you dickhead.

It's a strange story but UK has been invading Afghanistan since 1838. There was never any justification including the recent invasion (and defeat).  The nonsense continues with Australian David Hicks being arrested for attacking the US by sitting at Kabul airport. Gnads thinks Islamists in Afghanistan are Australian people.

chimera wrote on Dec 6^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:


Really? 46 years as a Railway man says different Noddy.

And when I was a primary school in the 60's we did subjects that covered Australian history & geography.

That subject matter was included in those subjects. DH.

chimera wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 9:14am:


You have an warped imagination, tantamount to telling lies.

I don't think any such thing you moron.

I made it clear to you that the Afghan & Indian cameleers in Australia were not Islamists... they were Muslims only.

You were the one who bought them up --
I asked you what your point was... so far you've failed to show what your point was.

Do you actually know what an Islamist is?

Quote:

The country of Afghanistan today under the TALIBAN is an example of a radical Islamist state.

Why do you bring Islamism into this?

Gnads wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 10:35am:


How many of his/her posts have you read.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 9:35am:

Why are you conflating 'Afghans' with 'the Afghan crew'?

chimera wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

No. I am noticing it.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

All the definitions and commentaries say you are wrong. Muslims are 'Islamic'.

chimera wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:34pm:



You are confused, I'm not sure whether on purpose or because of genuine ignorance/naivety.

Islam is an ideology, not an ethnicity or race.  You can join it or you can leave it.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:


Islamic law (Sharia) and many contemporary scholars treat apostasy as a serious crime, often punishable by death.

tallowood wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:03pm:


If only Sharia was irrelevant world would be better place.

Cameleers were not Islamist. No-one suggests the 'Afghan crew' are. Frank is not Islamic/ Islamist/relevant.
carry on.

Islamophobia strikes again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

by fRank age 7 yaers

(hey Frank

Frank

google Muslim conversions
go on)

I don't think you are 7, more like 6 years.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:18pm:


I didn't mention Islam you dumbarse. And it's not just muslims you have a problem with.
For refusing to integrate you should do what you demand the govt do to others who refuse to integrate and deport yourself.

Multiculturalism is "deculturalism".
People hot for multiculturalism have nothing positive to say about their own country, Australia, other than that it lets in all other cultures. Otherwise they have only negative things to say about Australia' culture and history: that it is racist, sexist, oppressive, simplistic, derivative, shameful, etc.
Multiculturalists repudiate and belittle Australia and valorise and celebrate all other cultures.

chimera wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 10:33am:

Here, every day from all the multiculti cadres.

chimera wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 11:51am:


I gave you the definition of Islamism/Islamist you moron.

Gnads wrote on Dec 6^th, 2025 at 9:53am:

You connect cameleers with changes in Afghanistan. Why?

chimera wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 9:37pm:


That's a tad rich coming from you & they way you carry on.

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 7:15am:


In your dreams it has.

chimera wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:


Quit while you're ahead - a dick head.

Gnads wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 12:58pm:


don't worry, you won't be here much longer 

mothra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 7:15am:


If you can think of ANY positive improvement that Islam brings to the West generallh or Australia in particular, let us know what it is.

chimera wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 6:02pm:




You are an ignorant fool.  Can you read maps? Can you read, come to think of it.

Christian Roman Empire.


Ottoman Empire

chimera wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Conquering the entire Roman Empire.

England rarely conquered Australia, NZ, India, North America, parts of Africa, the Middle East, Ireland, Wales, Scotland,

Scotland had Nova Scotia. Norway had Greenland. Denmark in Iceland. Holland in Java and South Africa. Belgium in Congo. France in America, SE Asia, Pacific, Africa, Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt. Spain had Americas, Africa, Philippines. Portugal of Americas, Java, India. Italy in Africa. Germany had Africa, New Guinea. England had a few, probably easier to say where it had no colony.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 7:19pm:




You can lead a horse to water...

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Muslims had two colonising powers which never reached beyond south Europe. Europe had about twelve which colonised all Muslim states.  'Rare' means two against twelve.

Here is a plot of human social development in the west vs China:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/heavy-legacies-our-past.html

This is based on several different metrics of social and economic development. The peak around 2000 years ago in the west was the Roman Republic/Empire. The low point was Islam - it didn't cause it, but it locked it in. Western civilisation did not reach similar levels of development to the Romans until well into the industrial revolution. This happened in the judeo-christian fringe of western civilisation, which had been largely taken over by Islam. To this day, Islam is still causing the middle east and north africa to be one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth. Quite a turnaround for the place that for almost all of human history was the most advanced civilisation on earth.

freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:34am:

Israel didn't exist after the Romans smashed it. Europe persecuted the Jews. Ottomans didn't enter Europe until 1453, 200 years after Renaissance started, and only held the South east fringe (not in Rome, not in Britain).

'Muslim Spain acted as a crucial bridge, preserving and advancing Greco-Roman knowledge, which directly fueled the European Renaissance through scientific, mathematical, philosophical, and artistic contributions that later spread to the rest of Europe, establishing advanced schools, libraries, and a culture of intellectual exchange before its fall'.

Europeans went to Spain because Muslims had texts translated, which were then available.
'Medieval Spain had Islamic centers of learning, like the Madrasa of Granada and in Toledo and Córdoba, which functioned as universities, fostering advanced studies in science, philosophy, medicine, and mathematics, attracting European scholars and transferring vast knowledge to the Latin West through translations, influencing early European universities like Salamanca.'

Western Europe was barbaric by contrast, in the 8th-10th centuries.

Australia has around 1.2 million camels across 37% of mainland Australia. These can easily breed enough for each family to survive AGW, bushfires and live in low-rental tents.

Correct. However Islam brought positive improvement in knowledge when French and Germans were battling pagans and Vikings were pillaging Britain.

'Knowledge is divided into religious sciences (Uloom al-Diyan) and worldly sciences (Uloom al-Abdan), with both being essential and encouraged. University of al-Qarawiyyin in Morocco of 859, is the world's first degree-awarding institution and oldest continuously operating higher educational institution, starting as a mosque and evolving into a state university in 1963'.