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Reply #45 - Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:52am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:21am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:53am:
Do you have a PhD in hating Jews? I mean Zionists?

There you go again... making an arse of yourself... Define Jew.

Here's some homework for you on Zionism.

Read up on Herzl's Zionism and Jabotinsky's Zionism.

Some figures to focus on:

Herzl's kind - David ben Gurion, Yitzhak Rabin.

Jabotinsky's kind - Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Benjamin Netanyahu.

Define Aborigine.Define Australian.
Define 'define'.


Don't play at being smart, Agatha Frank (they/them), you don't have the bandwidth.
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Reply #46 - Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:53am
 
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Reply #47 - Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:54am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:53am:
Do you have a PhD in hating Jews? I mean Zionists?

There you go again... making an arse of yourself... Define Jew.

Here's some homework for you on Zionism.

Read up on Herzl's Zionism and Jabotinsky's Zionism.

Some figures to focus on:

Herzl's kind - David ben Gurion, Yitzhak Rabin.

Jabotinsky's kind - Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Benjamin Netanyahu.


If I read up as much as you on that propaganda, will I also lose the ability to form my own opinion?
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Re: Nazis gather in Sydney.
Reply #48 - Nov 14th, 2025 at 12:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:53am:
Do you have a PhD in hating Jews? I mean Zionists?

There you go again... making an arse of yourself... Define Jew.

Here's some homework for you on Zionism.

Read up on Herzl's Zionism and Jabotinsky's Zionism.

Some figures to focus on:

Herzl's kind - David ben Gurion, Yitzhak Rabin.

Jabotinsky's kind - Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Benjamin Netanyahu.


If I read up as much as you on that propaganda, will I also lose the ability to form my own opinion?

You might get an inkling of the massive Dunning-Kruger-sized hole you live in. Is the Dunning-Kruger effect included in your forum advice? All the more reason for you to ignore it if it was, I'd bet.

BTW Jabotinsky is honoured across Israel with a national memorial day... He is buried on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem - a high honour... Almost every major Israeli city has a Jabotinsky Street... the Jabotinsky Institute in Tel Aviv preserves his papers, writings, and artifacts... His works ('The Iron Wall', 'Ethics of the Iron Wall', 'A Soldier’s Testament') are taught in Israeli high schools, military officer courses, and University Zionism and political theory programs.

I'm guessing you've never heard of him, Freeda.
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Reply #49 - Nov 15th, 2025 at 9:14am
 
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/hateful-actions-nsw-governments-wa...


“ The New South Wales government has warned its public servants against expressing hostility or hatred after a disturbing neo-Nazi rally last Saturday.”


Interesting that they issued no such warning to public servants involved in the  weekly protests against the Jews and Israel nation over the last two years.

I wonder why?
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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

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Reply #50 - Nov 15th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Daves2017 wrote on Nov 15th, 2025 at 9:14am:
Interesting that they issued no such warning to public servants involved in the  weekly protests against the Jews and Israel nation over the last two years.

I wonder why?


the the sacking of the nurses who spoke out against jews wasn't a warning enough for you? Interesting Roll Eyes
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Reply #51 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 7:22am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:54am:
If I read up as much as you on that propaganda, will I also lose the ability to form my own opinion?

This says more about you than you probably realise...

'Don't fact-check your own opinions, they may be contradicted by facts.'

Is that in your forum rules?
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Reply #52 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:09am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 11:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 10:53am:
Do you have a PhD in hating Jews? I mean Zionists?

There you go again... making an arse of yourself... Define Jew.

Here's some homework for you on Zionism.

Read up on Herzl's Zionism and Jabotinsky's Zionism.

Some figures to focus on:

Herzl's kind - David ben Gurion, Yitzhak Rabin.

Jabotinsky's kind - Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Benjamin Netanyahu.


If I read up as much as you on that propaganda, will I also lose the ability to form my own opinion?

You might get an inkling of the massive Dunning-Kruger-sized hole you live in. Is the Dunning-Kruger effect included in your forum advice? All the more reason for you to ignore it if it was, I'd bet.

BTW Jabotinsky is honoured across Israel with a national memorial day... He is buried on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem - a high honour... Almost every major Israeli city has a Jabotinsky Street... the Jabotinsky Institute in Tel Aviv preserves his papers, writings, and artifacts... His works ('The Iron Wall', 'Ethics of the Iron Wall', 'A Soldier’s Testament') are taught in Israeli high schools, military officer courses, and University Zionism and political theory programs.

I'm guessing you've never heard of him, Freeda.


For someone who claims to know more than others, you are remarkably fearful of your own opinion..
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Reply #53 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:22am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:09am:
For someone who claims to know more than others, you are remarkably fearful of your own opinion..

If only you were of yours.
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Reply #54 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:25am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 9:41am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 9:35am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 9:23am:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2025 at 9:21am:
If it was Nazis rather than Muslims trying to slaughter the "Zionists," whose side would you be on Meister?

You're off your pills again, I see...


Are you having trouble making up your mind, or are you just afraid to have your own opinion?

Do you even know who's on your mind when you think of Jews, Freeda.

I wonder how you'd define 'Jew'... No doubt, you'd break your own forum rules with something like, 'Everyone knows what a Jew is, so no need to define it'.


Have you figured out whose side you would be on Meister? Or would you just stare at your toes and mumble something incoherent about opinions being irrelevant?
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Reply #55 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:34am
 
I’d like to give my definition of a Jew?

This could be a great topic if we manage to answer in good faith?


IMO a Jew is someone of faith  Judaism .

As in my ( catholic) religion this includes an enormous amount of people of different beliefs and backgrounds.

Unfortunately it also includes some very evil people.

I believe this is common in all religions and any group of people.

I’m certain there are horrible Jews.

I also believe there are many more beautiful Jews.

I believe the same of the Muslim community.

P.s mr cat i goggled the names you posted previously of Zionist’s.

Thanks, it was interesting.
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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

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Reply #56 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 1:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:25am:
Have you figured out whose side you would be on Meister? Or would you just stare at your toes and mumble something incoherent about opinions being irrelevant?

Your opinions so far reveal you know almost nothing of the recent history of the conflict, nothing of Zionism, nor its factions, nor its protagonists, nothing of the Jewish migrant population from Europe, nothing of UNSCOP and almost nothing of Resolution 181's history.

Devoid of that - based on blind ignorance, and applying your own forum rules to your opinions - how would you characterise their value of them? Literally like arseholes?


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Reply #57 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 1:10pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:34am:
I’d like to give my definition of a Jew?

This could be a great topic if we manage to answer in good faith?


IMO a Jew is someone of faith  Judaism .

As in my ( catholic) religion this includes an enormous amount of people of different beliefs and backgrounds.


Yes, like Christianity, Judaism is sectarian - there are over a dozen of them, some vehemently opposed to each other. The most recent sectarian political split is that between the Haredi (ultra-Orthodox) and those sects that support the existence of the Israeli state, those that identify with Zionism, and all secular Jews.

The term Jew is applied not only to the religious Jews but also to those born of (or descended from) Jews, regardless of their religious affiliation, and often against the will of the individual so labelled. This occurs with non-Jews towards those they deem Jews significantly more often than Jews towards others.

For example, those secular Jews not descended from Jews on their maternal side are considered half-Jews at best, and not Jews at all where the maternal line ends beyond a grandmother.

For a goy (a non-Jew) to say 'I support the Jews' is comical to Israelis and diaspora Jews.
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Reply #58 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 2:30pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 9:34am:
I’d like to give my definition of a Jew?

This could be a great topic if we manage to answer in good faith?


IMO a Jew is someone of faith  Judaism .

As in my ( catholic) religion this includes an enormous amount of people of different beliefs and backgrounds.

Unfortunately it also includes some very evil people.

I believe this is common in all religions and any group of people.

I’m certain there are horrible Jews.

I also believe there are many more beautiful Jews.

I believe the same of the Muslim community.

P.s mr cat i goggled the names you posted previously of Zionist’s.

Thanks, it was interesting.



So an atheist Jew is no longer a Jew? I don't think do.  Many atheist Jews still identify as Jews.


You can't say the same about Catholics of Muslims who become atheists. They no longer identify AS Catholics of Muslims.
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Reply #59 - Nov 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm
 
The term Jew refers to either a religious identity or a cultural/genetic identity.

From a Jewish perspective,

A religious Jew is obviously a Jew, even though Judaism is as sectarian as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism...

A non-religious/atheist is still a Jew where his mother (sometimes a grandmother) is/was a Jew.

From a non-Jew perspective

A religious Jew is obviously a Jew.

A non-religious/atheist is still a Jew if his ancestry can be identified or intuited - i.e. given name, surname, known ancestry, physical features etc... even over the protestations of the individual so characterised.

An example is Bill Maher. Growing up, he was unaware that his mother was Jewish (he was brought up in Catholicism - his father's faith), she was non-religious, making him, in the minds of Jews, a full Jew.
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