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Oct 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm
 
There are as many different version of this conspiracy as there are bullshit artists on the internet, but lately they all seem to follow a common theme: the Jews of Israel have committed genocide of the Palestinians, are currently committing one, or are about to commit one. Plus some kind of explanation for why there is zero evidence to back up the claims, for example:

They death toll from the current war is a result of genocide rather than the fact that there is a war happening and Hamas' military strategy largely revolves around shooting at the Israelis while hiding among civilians. This is the official UN version of the conspiracy, and it is just as lacking in supporting evidence as all the other versions.

The Palestinians are too busy streaming the latest episode of Fauda on their mobile phones to take photos of the large piles of corpses and upload them. The only way to put the photos online is to allow anyone claiming to be a foreign journalist to drive a truckload of journalism equipment into Gaza.

The Israelis are about to commit genocide and build an empire. This was their cunning plan all along. It is about to happen. There is no other possible explanation for them giving back the territory they won in all the wars started by Muslims literally trying to wipe them out.

The Israelis really really wanted to commit genocide, but were secretly prevented from doing so by the US, the UN etc.

Here's a meme that criticises Israel and attributes the claim to someone with a Jewish sounding name. Case closed.

Israel's military success and foreign support can only be explained by the fact they are cunning, evil Jews who are committing genocide, rather than say, the fact that they are a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth, and even their Arab Muslim citizens have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country.

All the evidence is online. No it cannot be provided, you have to go looking for it yourself. Start by watching a few hours of some moron dribbling away about evil Jews on youtube.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #1 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 2:47pm
 
Correction there FD,


the evil Zionist/Israeli conspiracies




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the evil 'man' conspiracy



MY OBSERVATION;
Men generally, absent a good and redeeming influence,
will tend to wicked endeavours.

Q.

Why is that ?


When the governing authorities in a society choose to present truth as a lie,
and to present falsehood as truth,
dystopia will 'naturally' become the 'social currency' of that society.

North Korea.


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1295543010/73#73
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All societies in the world today,
which claim to be ISLAMIC and Sharia guided,
are nests of oppression, violence, injustice, and human poverty.





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THE KJV BIBLE......
IT IS FULL OF AFFIRMATIONS.



John 3:19
And this is the condemnation,
that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil.
20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light,
neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light,
that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


John 18:37
.....Jesus answered.......
To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world,
that I should bear witness unto the truth.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.


Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD:
therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment:
and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth
unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
.......
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD?
him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease;
and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him;
and he will shew them his covenant.


Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil:
he preserveth the souls of his saints;
he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
11  Light is sown for the righteous,
and gladness for the upright in heart.
12  Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous;
and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.


Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation:
but sin is a reproach to any people.


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Psalms KJV
"Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD."




Yadda said somewhere....
Quote:

We ourselves, are the 'gatekeepers' of our heart.

We choose which spirits we allow [invite] into our heart.

And nobody [and no spirit] can compel us, to join with them.

And no spirit can compel us to do what is evil.

Nobody compels us, to choose the evil.

Whenever we choose the evil, it is we ourselves who choose it.





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Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.


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Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:25pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:09pm:
Just heard on the radio that Satanyahu wants to starve gazans in exchange for the remaining corpses that he doesn't really give a sh.t about when he could have easily got these people out when they were still alive !! What does it say about these genocidal zionist lunatics ?


So it's the Jews' own fault that Hamas took Jewish hostages and killed a bunch of them?

Were you listening to the stormfront online radio station?
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm:
There are as many different version of this conspiracy as there are bullshit artists on the internet, but lately they all seem to follow a common theme: the Jews of Israel have committed genocide of the Palestinians, are currently committing one, or are about to commit one. Plus some kind of explanation for why there is zero evidence to back up the claims, ...


Netanyahu is currently committing genocide.

The world’s leading genocide scholars’ association has backed a resolution stating that Israel’s actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of the crime.

Out of the International Association of Genocide Scholars’s (IAGS) 500 members, 28% took part in the vote. Of those who voted, 86% supported the resolution. The resolution states that “Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in article II of the United Nations convention for the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide (1948).”
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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm:
There are as many different version of this conspiracy as there are bullshit artists on the internet, but lately they all seem to follow a common theme: the Jews of Israel have committed genocide of the Palestinians, are currently committing one, or are about to commit one. Plus some kind of explanation for why there is zero evidence to back up the claims, for example:

They death toll from the current war is a result of genocide rather than the fact that there is a war happening and Hamas' military strategy largely revolves around shooting at the Israelis while hiding among civilians. This is the official UN version of the conspiracy, and it is just as lacking in supporting evidence as all the other versions.

The Palestinians are too busy streaming the latest episode of Fauda on their mobile phones to take photos of the large piles of corpses and upload them. The only way to put the photos online is to allow anyone claiming to be a foreign journalist to drive a truckload of journalism equipment into Gaza.

The Israelis are about to commit genocide and build an empire. This was their cunning plan all along. It is about to happen. There is no other possible explanation for them giving back the territory they won in all the wars started by Muslims literally trying to wipe them out.

The Israelis really really wanted to commit genocide, but were secretly prevented from doing so by the US, the UN etc.

Here's a meme that criticises Israel and attributes the claim to someone with a Jewish sounding name. Case closed.

Israel's military success and foreign support can only be explained by the fact they are cunning, evil Jews who are committing genocide, rather than say, the fact that they are a wealthy liberal democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth, and even their Arab Muslim citizens have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country.

All the evidence is online. No it cannot be provided, you have to go looking for it yourself. Start by watching a few hours of some moron dribbling away about evil Jews on youtube.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg


I see you have abandoned your "Israel's right to exist" thread, preferring not to explain your absurd "...parts of Palestine outside the UN resolution" proposition.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757471742/195

#205.

Are you ashamed of the way Israel came into existence?

...

Now ofcourse with total chaos in Gaza, and the bodies of hostages unable to found in the rubble, Net is claiming Hamas has broken the agreement -  good move now he has all the living hostages back; he will be able to get Trump's agreement to murder Hamas, regardless  of the cost to Gazan civilians.

Whether Trump's pals in the rich Gulf states will co-operate is yet to be seen..... 
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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:41pm
 
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Out of the International Association of Genocide Scholars’s (IAGS) 500 members, 28% took part in the vote
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Why do you think so few voted? Too many other genocides to keep track of?

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Are you ashamed of the way Israel came into existence?


Why should I be?

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I see you have abandoned your "Israel's right to exist" thread


That's an odd conclusion to reach. How did you make that leap?
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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:09pm:
Just heard on the radio that Satanyahu wants to starve gazans in exchange for the remaining corpses that he doesn't really give a sh.t about when he could have easily got these people out when they were still alive !! What does it say about these genocidal zionist lunatics ?


So it's the Jews' own fault that Hamas took Jewish hostages and killed a bunch of them?

Were you listening to the stormfront online radio station?


I knew you would be the first to rationalize this demonic behaviour Sad

Jewish Photojournalist TORTURED By The Israeli Government




Just imagine what they do to Palestinian prisoners Sad


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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:47pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:42pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:09pm:
Just heard on the radio that Satanyahu wants to starve gazans in exchange for the remaining corpses that he doesn't really give a sh.t about when he could have easily got these people out when they were still alive !! What does it say about these genocidal zionist lunatics ?


So it's the Jews' own fault that Hamas took Jewish hostages and killed a bunch of them?

Were you listening to the stormfront online radio station?


I knew you would be the first to ra


What radio station did you hear it on? Stormfront?
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Reply #9 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:41pm:
[TGD: "Are you ashamed of the way Israel came into existence?

Why should I be?


Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   

Quote:
TGDI see you have abandoned your "Israel's right to exist" thread

That's an odd conclusion to reach. How did you make that leap?


One of the many features of your debating style is to simply ignore points you don't want to address. eg,   what "parts of Palestine" are "outside the UN resolution" - YOUR absurd propostion? 

So you change the topic to "(anti-Jewish) conspiracies". 
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Reply #10 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:47pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:42pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:09pm:
Just heard on the radio that Satanyahu wants to starve gazans in exchange for the remaining corpses that he doesn't really give a sh.t about when he could have easily got these people out when they were still alive !! What does it say about these genocidal zionist lunatics ?


So it's the Jews' own fault that Hamas took Jewish hostages and killed a bunch of them?

Were you listening to the stormfront online radio station?


I knew you would be the first to ra


What radio station did you hear it on? Stormfront?


ABC News radio 1026 AM Wink

Put that in your pipe and smoke it FD Cheesy LOL
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Reply #11 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:04pm
 
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Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   


Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?

This is another of the moronic conspiracy theories that gets trotted out regularly, but no-one can ever explain what it means.
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Reply #12 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
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Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   


Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?


Are you dementing?

The half of Palestine, as per UN res 181.


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Reply #13 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:11pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:02pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:41pm:
[TGD: "Are you ashamed of the way Israel came into existence?

Why should I be?


Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   

Quote:
TGDI see you have abandoned your "Israel's right to exist" thread

That's an odd conclusion to reach. How did you make that leap?


One of the many features of your debating style is to simply ignore points you don't want to address. eg,   what "parts of Palestine" are "outside the UN resolution" - YOUR absurd propostion? 

So you change the topic to "(anti-Jewish) conspiracies". 


This is the zions debating strategy. They have all got the same  barbeque list they use Wink
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Reply #14 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:30pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
Quote:
Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   


Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?


Are you dementing?

The half of Palestine, as per UN res 181. 


Try reading the question again.

Whose land do you think was "confiscated"? You claim this is the reason the Muslims are upset at Israel's existence. So why can you not tell who you are talking about?
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Reply #15 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 7:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
Quote:
Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   


Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?


Are you dementing?

The half of Palestine, as per UN res 181. 


Try reading the question again.

Whose land do you think was "confiscated"? You claim this is the reason the Muslims are upset at Israel's existence. So why can you not tell who you are talking about?

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Reply #16 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 8:31pm
 
Is that supposed to be an answer to the question Nail, or another conspiracy? Perhaps you should try using your big boy words.
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Reply #17 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 8:44pm
 

Dear sir brave Nail,

they went to Palestine because it was the land promised by God.
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Reply #18 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 9:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 8:44pm:
Dear sir brave Nail,

they went to Palestine because it was the land promised by God.


yeh they had to make up some story I guess Cheesy LOL
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Reply #19 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 10:06pm
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 10:29pm:

the evil 'man' conspiracy



MY OBSERVATION;
Men generally, absent a good and redeeming influence,
will tend to wicked endeavours.

Q.

Why is that ?


When the governing authorities in a society choose to present truth as a lie,
and to present falsehood as truth,
dystopia will 'naturally' become the 'social currency' of that society.

North Korea.


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1295543010/73#73
Quote:

All societies in the world today,
which claim to be ISLAMIC and Sharia guided,
are nests of oppression, violence, injustice, and human poverty.





.


THE KJV BIBLE......
IT IS FULL OF AFFIRMATIONS.



John 3:19
And this is the condemnation,
that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil.
20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light,
neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light,
that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


John 18:37
.....Jesus answered.......
To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world,
that I should bear witness unto the truth.
Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.


Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD:
therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment:
and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth
unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
.......
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD?
him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease;
and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him;
and he will shew them his covenant.


Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil:
he preserveth the souls of his saints;
he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
11  Light is sown for the righteous,
and gladness for the upright in heart.
12  Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous;
and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.


Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation:
but sin is a reproach to any people.


.


Psalms KJV
"Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD."




Yadda said somewhere....
Quote:

We ourselves, are the 'gatekeepers' of our heart.

We choose which spirits we allow [invite] into our heart.

And nobody [and no spirit] can compel us, to join with them.

And no spirit can compel us to do what is evil.

Nobody compels us, to choose the evil.

Whenever we choose the evil, it is we ourselves who choose it.





.


Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.





Dear Yadda,
many blessings.

Your posts are so long that I doubt anyone reads them -

make them short and punchy.

forgiven

namaste
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Reply #20 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 6:50am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:47pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:42pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:25pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 3:09pm:
Just heard on the radio that Satanyahu wants to starve gazans in exchange for the remaining corpses that he doesn't really give a sh.t about when he could have easily got these people out when they were still alive !! What does it say about these genocidal zionist lunatics ?


So it's the Jews' own fault that Hamas took Jewish hostages and killed a bunch of them?

Were you listening to the stormfront online radio station?


I knew you would be the first to ra


What radio station did you hear it on? Stormfront?


ABC News radio 1026 AM Wink

Put that in your pipe and smoke it FD Cheesy LOL


Did the radio say what the Jews actually did, or only what they "want" to do?
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Reply #21 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:34am
 
People Who Have Been Calling For A Ceasefire For Two Years Denounce Ceasefire


U.S. — Anti-Israel protestors denounced the Trump-brokered ceasefire in Israel after months of demanding that Trump broker a peace deal in Gaza.

"Ugh!" protestor Jenny Martinez declared. "When we chanted ‘CEASEFIRE NOW!' we didn't mean like this. Not one Trump arranged. We meant one arranged by Hamas that would end in the annihilation of all Jews."

The protestors railed against the ceasefire deal and accused Israel of trying to control President Trump. Martinez said it's clear the peace deal is just one more step in Israel's evil agenda.

"Israel clearly doesn't want their people completely wiped off the face of the earth… this is the reason they're controlling the President. FREE PALESTINE!"

Advocates for a ceasefire in Gaza expressed frustration after learning over the weekend that a ceasefire was officially agreed upon and in effect. Many worried that this new change meant that they would have to find real jobs now.

"If there's a ceasefire, I can't spend my days going to ‘Ceasefire Now' protests," activist Mark Williams said. "I can't get a job! My only skills are yelling at Trump online and making protest signs."

At publishing time, protestors turned their focus to fighting against the Trump administration's efforts to broker peace between dogs and cats.
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Reply #22 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 10:08am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 9:17am:
So it's worth restarting the genocide and killing thousands more over a few dead corpses that are buried beneath 100's of tonnes of rubble that the IDF created in the first place because they kept renegging on every ceasefire and hostage deal when most likely the deceased hostages were probably still alive at those earlier stages !! Do you know how insane you sound ?


Can you explain the logic behind this conspiracy theory Nail? Are you saying the Jews conspired to trick Hamas into agreeing to return the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the ceasefire deal, even though they had "lost" them?

And anyone who doesn't swallow your conspiracy theory is insane?
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Reply #23 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 5:59pm
 
A constant stream of idiotic conspiracy theories, too stupid to put into words, so she uses pictures instead. Now the Jews are even to blame for Hamas.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 4:33pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:52am:
Hamas was elected democratically. The reason they now have rival militias rather than rival political parties is that they kill their political rivals.


You sure about that bro ?? Seems to be somewhat of a discrepancy regarding that story Wink


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The truth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

The 2006 election was the first time Hamas ever ran for office. They got 44.5% of the vote and 74 out of 132 seats. They only needed 67 seats to win. Their nearest rivals, Fatah, got 41.4% of the vote. In the previous election Fatah was the only party to win more than one seat, though there were a large number of independents.

The reason for Hamas' surge to victory, as well as all the other new parties running for office? Fatah was seeking peace with Israel. The Palestinian people wanted more war. They are getting exactly what they asked for. It is not a Jewish conspiracy. You do not need a conspiracy to explain it, unless you have some weird compulsory to Islamic apologism. It is Muslims getting what Muslims want. Every opinion poll since has shown ongoing support for Fatah and their efforts to kill the Jews.
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Reply #24 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm
 

Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.

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Reply #25 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm
 
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.



Israel was created by the Israelis. ISIS was created by Muslims. Sadam was create by his parents. Stop trying to blame the US for everything.
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Reply #26 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm:
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.



Israel was created by the Israelis. ISIS was created by Muslims. Sadam was create by his parents. Stop trying to blame the US for everything.


You sure about ISIS bro ?


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Reply #27 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm:
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.



Israel was created by the Israelis. ISIS was created by Muslims. Sadam was create by his parents. Stop trying to blame the US for everything.



You are missing my point -

with the best of intentions - the USA created one monster after another.
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Reply #28 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:44pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm:
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.



Israel was created by the Israelis. ISIS was created by Muslims. Sadam was create by his parents. Stop trying to blame the US for everything.



You are missing my point -

with the best of intentions - the USA created one monster after another.


You are missing the point. The US did not create ISIS. Local Muslims created ISIS. I realise you are trying to point out a trend to me Bobby, but if every single point along the trend is a lie, then the trend is also a lie. If you seek to find a way to blame the US for every problem in the world, you will find a way, but it does not mean you have a firm grip on reality. It merely means you have a special ability to close your eyes until you only see what you want to see.

Take Nail for example, he can even find an idiotic facebook meme that blames the Jews for ISIS.
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Reply #29 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:58pm
 
No FD,
tell me your view on history? -

who supported the Taliban and Osama to fight the Russians?

who supported Saddam to fight Iran?

who created a vacuum in Iraq that led to ISIS?

who created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs?

who created Israel on May 14, 1948 ?

who allowed Israel to have 100s of nuclear weapons?

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Reply #30 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 9:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:44pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 8:29pm:
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm:
Dear FD,
many blessings.

The USA created: the Taliban and Osama Bin laden -
supplied Stinger missiles to fight Russia in the 1980s.

They created Saddam - supplied weapons to fight Iran in the 1980s.

They created ISIS when they destroyed Iraq.

They created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs in WW2.

They also created Israel with the help of the POMs.

In every case their creations have turned into monsters
that returned to bite them on the bum.

Israel is now a new monster with nuclear weapons.
God help the USA if Israel ever turns on the USA -

actually they did once:
On Jun 8th 1967 the ship called the USS Liberty was deliberately attacked by Israel
killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 more.



Israel was created by the Israelis. ISIS was created by Muslims. Sadam was create by his parents. Stop trying to blame the US for everything.



You are missing my point -

with the best of intentions - the USA created one monster after another.


You are missing the point. The US did not create ISIS. Local Muslims created ISIS. I realise you are trying to point out a trend to me Bobby, but if every single point along the trend is a lie, then the trend is also a lie. If you seek to find a way to blame the US for every problem in the world, you will find a way, but it does not mean you have a firm grip on reality. It merely means you have a special ability to close your eyes until you only see what you want to see.

Take Nail for example, he can even find an idiotic facebook meme that blames the Jews for ISIS.


And you know that about ISIS from what ? Listening to Andrew Bolt and the rest of the zion MSM shills ??
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Reply #31 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 9:09pm
 
No FD,
tell me your view on history? -

who supported the Taliban and Osama to fight the Russians?

who supported Saddam to fight Iran?

who created a vacuum in Iraq that led to ISIS?

who created the Viet Kong to fight the Japs?

who created Israel on May 14, 1948 ?

who allowed Israel to have 100s of nuclear weapons?

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Reply #32 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:17am
 
Quote:
who supported the Taliban and Osama to fight the Russians?


Who created the Taliban? The US? Or the local Muslims who became the Taliban?

The US being involved in worlds event merely reflects that they are a superpower. That is not the same as micromanaging world events. Muslims could have created an infinite variety of organisations every time foreign powers intervened or didn't intervene, leaving a power vacuum. That they chose pretty much every single time to create an evil, oppressive, rape and pillage type of organisation reflects the choices of local Muslims under the influence of Islam, not the creation of foreign powers.

Quote:
And you know that about ISIS from what ? Listening to Andrew Bolt and the rest of the zion MSM shills ??


Here's a good starting point for you Nail:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State

It is a lot better than believing every idiotic conspiracy theory that comes across your facebook feed.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?
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Reply #33 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:30am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:17am:
Quote:
who supported the Taliban and Osama to fight the Russians?


Who created the Taliban? The US? Or the local Muslims who became the Taliban?

The US being involved in worlds event merely reflects that they are a superpower. That is not the same as micromanaging world events. Muslims could have created an infinite variety of organisations every time foreign powers intervened or didn't intervene, leaving a power vacuum. That they chose pretty much every single time to create an evil, oppressive, rape and pillage type of organisation reflects the choices of local Muslims under the influence of Islam, not the creation of foreign powers.




We're getting there -
so - when the USA supplied Stinger missiles and other arms to an Islamic group -
namely Osama Bin Laden's group  -
the USA was not responsible when that group turned on the USA?

When the Yanks went into Iraq did they have a good plan for
what happened afterwards when they created a power vacuum for ISIS?

It looks to me like all they ever do is solve one problem and create 10 more problems.
In some ways they would be better to stop meddling in world affairs?
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Reply #34 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:44am
 
Quote:
so - when the USA supplied Stinger missiles and other arms to an Islamic group -
namely Osama Bin Laden's group  -
the USA was not responsible when that group turned on the USA?


Al-Qaeda was responsible for their attacks on the US. No-one else. Just because they are Muslims does not mean you have to go looking for someone else to blame. The Taliban were not "bin laden's group".

The US did not create the Taliban.

The US did not create ISIS.

The US did not create Israel.

The US did not create Saddam Hussein.

Quote:
When the Yanks went into Iraq did they have a good plan for
what happened afterwards when they created a power vacuum for ISIS?


Of course they had a good plan. The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism.
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Reply #35 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:50am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:44am:
Quote:
so - when the USA supplied Stinger missiles and other arms to an Islamic group -
namely Osama Bin Laden's group  -
the USA was not responsible when that group turned on the USA?


Al-Qaeda was responsible for their attacks on the US. No-one else. Just because they are Muslims does not mean you have to go looking for someone else to blame. They were not "bin laden's group".

The US did not create the Taliban.

The US did not create ISIS.

The US did not create Israel.

The US did not create Saddam Hussein.



The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?
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Reply #36 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am
 
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.
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Reply #37 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:58am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.



Nonsense.
Saddam had the Islamic extremists under control using barbaric methods -
the desert in Iraq is full of mass unmarked graves.
They wouldn't dare to try anything when he was in charge.
When the Yanks got rid of Saddam was when the trouble started and it got out of control.
ISIS took over.
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Reply #38 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:59am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.


Hey FD, have you found any Weapons of Mass Deception in Iraq yet or are you still looking for them ?? How much did that cost, and how many lives were  lost in the quest for fake democracy ?? What did it achieve in the end ?

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..."
Cheesy LOL

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Reply #39 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:09am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:59am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.


Hey FD, have you found any Weapons of Mass Deception in Iraq yet or are you still looking for them ?? How much did that cost, and how many lives were  lost in the quest for fake democracy ?? What did it achieve in the end ?

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..."
Cheesy LOL





Good video sir brave Nail,
it shows how Israel dragged the USA into the Iraq war.
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Reply #40 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:09am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:59am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.


Hey FD, have you found any Weapons of Mass Deception in Iraq yet or are you still looking for them ?? How much did that cost, and how many lives were  lost in the quest for fake democracy ?? What did it achieve in the end ?

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..."
Cheesy LOL





Good video sir brave Nail,
it shows how Israel dragged the USA into the Iraq war.


Many other nations got sucked into it as well, including us Sad

Ironically, Israel never lifted a finger. They got suckers to do their dirty work for them Sad
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Reply #41 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:19am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:09am:
Good video sir brave Nail,
it shows how Israel dragged the USA into the Iraq war.


Many other nations got sucked into it as well, including us Sad

Ironically Israel never lifted a finger. They got the suckers to do their dirty work Sad



Yes - we do what the Yanks tell us to do -

they don't ask us - they tell us.

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Reply #42 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:20am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:58am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.



Nonsense.
Saddam had the Islamic extremists under control using barbaric methods -
the desert in Iraq is full of mass unmarked graves.
They wouldn't dare to try anything when he was in charge.
When the Yanks got rid of Saddam was when the trouble started and it got out of control.
ISIS took over.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_want_of_a_nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost;
for want of a shoe the horse was lost;
and for want of a horse the rider was lost,
being overtaken and slain by the enemy,
all for want of care about a horse-shoe nail.

Causation: In tort law, this proverb is used to question whether a defendant's negligence was the direct cause of a plaintiff's damage. The phrase is often invoked to argue that a connection between the defendant's act and the plaintiff's injury is too tenuous or remote to be legally actionable.

The people who created ISIS are responsible for creating ISIS. They are the members of ISIS. The members of ISIS who raped and pillaged their way across the middle east are responsible for raping and pillaging their way across the middle east.

You cannot blame America for toppling Saddam. You cannot blame the British for creating America. You cannot blame the Romans, French and vikings for their role in creating Britain. You cannot blame the first human beings who walked out of Africa. Why are you so desperate to avoid blaming the people who actually created ISIS for creating ISIS?

Also, the fact that Iraq had the worst human rights in the world under Saddam does not somehow increase America's responsibility for ISIS.
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Reply #43 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:20am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:58am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.



Nonsense.
Saddam had the Islamic extremists under control using barbaric methods -
the desert in Iraq is full of mass unmarked graves.
They wouldn't dare to try anything when he was in charge.
When the Yanks got rid of Saddam was when the trouble started and it got out of control.
ISIS took over.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_want_of_a_nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost;
for want of a shoe the horse was lost;
and for want of a horse the rider was lost,
being overtaken and slain by the enemy,
all for want of care about a horse-shoe nail.

Causation: In tort law, this proverb is used to question whether a defendant's negligence was the direct cause of a plaintiff's damage. The phrase is often invoked to argue that a connection between the defendant's act and the plaintiff's injury is too tenuous or remote to be legally actionable.

The people who created ISIS are responsible for creating ISIS. They are the members of ISIS. The members of ISIS who raped and pillaged their way across the middle east are responsible for raping and pillaging their way across the middle east.

You cannot blame America for toppling Saddam. You cannot blame the British for creating America. You cannot blame the Romans, French and vikings for their role in creating Britain. You cannot blame the first human beings who walked out of Africa. Why are you so desperate to avoid blaming the people who actually created ISIS for creating ISIS?

Also, the fact that Iraq had the worst human rights in the world under Saddam does not somehow increase America's responsibility for ISIS.



Nice quote but at least Saddam knew what he was dealing with -
savage Islamic extremists - and he had them under control -
the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam -
that led to ISIS and the destruction of Syria.
The effects are ongoing today.
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Reply #44 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:50am:
The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?



So much for 'Muslims are just like us', eh?

Is our children learning? No. We are importing them by the million into the West.

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Reply #45 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:32am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:20am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:58am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:51am:
The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.



Nonsense.
Saddam had the Islamic extremists under control using barbaric methods -
the desert in Iraq is full of mass unmarked graves.
They wouldn't dare to try anything when he was in charge.
When the Yanks got rid of Saddam was when the trouble started and it got out of control.
ISIS took over.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_want_of_a_nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost;
for want of a shoe the horse was lost;
and for want of a horse the rider was lost,
being overtaken and slain by the enemy,
all for want of care about a horse-shoe nail.

Causation: In tort law, this proverb is used to question whether a defendant's negligence was the direct cause of a plaintiff's damage. The phrase is often invoked to argue that a connection between the defendant's act and the plaintiff's injury is too tenuous or remote to be legally actionable.

The people who created ISIS are responsible for creating ISIS. They are the members of ISIS. The members of ISIS who raped and pillaged their way across the middle east are responsible for raping and pillaging their way across the middle east.

You cannot blame America for toppling Saddam. You cannot blame the British for creating America. You cannot blame the Romans, French and vikings for their role in creating Britain. You cannot blame the first human beings who walked out of Africa. Why are you so desperate to avoid blaming the people who actually created ISIS for creating ISIS?

Also, the fact that Iraq had the worst human rights in the world under Saddam does not somehow increase America's responsibility for ISIS.


Yep and we know who created them don't we Wink They were a consequence of your misguided invasion of another sovereign country looking for weapons of mass disappearance.

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Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:25am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:50am:
The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?



So much for 'Muslims are just like us', eh?

Is our children learning? No. We are importing them by the million into the West.



Yes, and all of those refugees are the fallout from all of Satanyahus psychotic wars in the Middle East over the last 30 years. Of course, the genocidal apartheid regime in Israel would never take any of those Palestinian refugees who have been displaced. That's the responsibility of countries like Australia Sad
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Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby?

Who created ISIS Bobby?
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I did not invade anyone Nail.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 9:25am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 8:50am:
The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?



So much for 'Muslims are just like us', eh?

Is our children learning? No. We are importing them by the million into the West.



Yes, and all of those refugees are the fallout from all of Satanyahus psychotic wars in the Middle East over the last 30 years. Of course, the genocidal apartheid regime in Israel would never take any of those Palestinian refugees who have been displaced. That's the responsibility of countries like Australia Sad


Yeah, why didn't the Soviet Union give asylum to the Gestapo after 1945, eh?   Cry Cry


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freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:41am:
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They were a consequence of your misguided invasion


I did not invade anyone Nail.


You endorsed it and your taxes paid for it and they didn't even take it to a vote in parliament !! Remember "The Man of Steel" ?? How much did that cost us ?? Israel got a free ride out of us suckers. And look at Frank trying to justify it as usual. Suckers !! Cheesy LOL

Then old Magoo Howard admits later on that it was "faulty intelligence", but he would still do it all again Cheesy LOL








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You lie Nail.

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freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:56am:
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You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?


Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy LOL
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freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 9:17am:
So it's worth restarting the genocide and killing thousands more over a few dead corpses that are buried beneath 100's of tonnes of rubble that the IDF created in the first place because they kept renegging on every ceasefire and hostage deal when most likely the deceased hostages were probably still alive at those earlier stages !! Do you know how insane you sound ?


Can you explain the logic behind this conspiracy theory Nail?


It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.

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Are you saying the Jews conspired to trick Hamas into agreeing to return the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the ceasefire deal, even though they had "lost" them?


The usual question coming from you based on an error; the facts on the ground are not a "conspircy theory".

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freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
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Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW,  at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.   


Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?


Are you dementing?

The half of Palestine, as per UN res 181. 


Try reading the question again.


I did; the question is straightforward,  not a cryptic puzzle.

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Whose land do you think was "confiscated"? You claim this is the reason the Muslims are upset at Israel's existence. So why can you not tell who you are talking about?


I'm talking about the Muslims who found themselves living in "Israel", after their land was confiscated as per UN res 181.


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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:56am:
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You endorsed it


You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?


Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy LOL


Netanyahu wasn't PM during the Iraq war, ya nyaff.
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Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:56am:
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You endorsed it


You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?


Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy LOL


Netanyahu wasn't PM during the Iraq war, ya nyaff.


Nevertheless (back to the present), as Jeffrey Sachs has correctly stated:

"All of the Arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a Member state of the UN and properly constituted."


https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/prrhap4c7dj9jp5w5yxclbpxr7b6bh

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freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:40am:
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the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam


Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby?

Who created ISIS Bobby?



That is a difficult question -
some say that Israel and the USA were behind it -
it's more likely that it was just the vacuum created after they got rid of Saddam.
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Study Finds Jews Are Always Cool And Nice And Their Bagels Are Great Too [This Post Sponsored By Israel For $7,000]



U.S. — A new study has just conclusively proved that Jewish people are always cool, their bagels are great, and Israel is number one.

[Ed. This post was sponsored by Israel for $7,000.]

According to several respected scientists, the study found that Jews are the bee's knees, so to speak, and that their yarmulkes are flippin' sweet. Also, they're the best, and they make terrific challah bread.

"Our results clearly show that all Jewish people, especially those in Israel, are just terrific," Levi Benjamin Mendelbergsohn told the Babylon Bee. "In a choice between bacon and Jewish people, survey respondents picked Jewish people every time. We're really very nice, and it would be so great if someone could spread the word."

Other facts that the study determined about Jews are that they are often very witty, incredibly smart, and do not run the world using a mysterious cabal.

"We also do not have a giant space laser, make sure you write that down," Mendelbergsohn said. "We want absolutely zero suspicion about us having a laser or a weather control machine. Ha! What a great joke all of that is."

At publishing time, the editorial team at the Babylon Bee had announced that if any other people group would like to sponsor a post, that would be great as we really could use another $7k.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:59am:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:56am:
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You endorsed it


You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?


Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy LOL


Interesting. I didn't think you made up your own lies and BS. I thought you copied and pasted them all.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 12:05pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 9:17am:
So it's worth restarting the genocide and killing thousands more over a few dead corpses that are buried beneath 100's of tonnes of rubble that the IDF created in the first place because they kept renegging on every ceasefire and hostage deal when most likely the deceased hostages were probably still alive at those earlier stages !! Do you know how insane you sound ?


Can you explain the logic behind this conspiracy theory Nail?


It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.


I mean, how did the Jews trick Hamas into agreeing to return all the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the peace deal, when they had already lost them? Is Hamas part of the grand Jewish conspiracy?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 3:24pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 10:40am:
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the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam


Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby?

Who created ISIS Bobby?



That is a difficult question -
some say that Israel and the USA were behind it -
it's more likely that it was just the vacuum created after they got rid of Saddam.


I meant, whoa actually created ISIS?
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Another one. Even when Hamas invades Israel, kidnaps hostages, then uses the as human shields in the inevitable war, it is all the Jews' fault.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
Check it out. I'm surprised more weren't killed by IDF's reckless bombing campaigns. What did they expect ?? Sad

[quote]Forensic evidence shows that 18-year-old Israeli hostage Tamir Nimrodi was killed by an Israeli airstrike — not by Hamas.

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I meant, who actually created ISIS?


I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but
I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants
who wanted an Islamic State in Syria
that also included part of Iraq.
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:45am:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:41am:
I meant, who actually created ISIS?


I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but
I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants
who wanted an Islamic State in Syria
that also included part of Iraq.


Thanks Bobby. I just needed to put "actually" into the question to get you to give a straight answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State#Organisation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_State_members
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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:45am:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:41am:
I meant, who actually created ISIS?


I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but
I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants
who wanted an Islamic State in Syria
that also included part of Iraq.


Thanks Bobby. I just needed to put "actually" into the question to get you to give a straight answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State#Organisation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_State_members


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Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?
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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:41am:
TGD It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.


I mean, how did the Jews trick Hamas into agreeing to return all the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the peace deal, when they had already lost them?


No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt; the reps assumed  the bodies could be located, as required by the agreement. 

But Hamas in Gaza was decimated and incapacitated.

Anyway, I'm pleased you now understand why the Muslims who found themselves living in "Israel" in 1948 were angry, when their land was confiscated as per UN res 181.

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Is Hamas part of the grand Jewish conspiracy?


No; Hamas was created as the result of extremist  reaction against the continued occupation of  Palestinian territory after the '67 war - eventually resulting in Hamas's formal founding in 1987.

FD, why do you keep asking all these dumb questions?

Ah...of course, your delusional (desirable but impossible) "individual freedom"  ideology.

"For all to be free, all must abide by rule of law" Cicero.

Lucky for you, your delusions are backed by the Pentagon who don't abide by international law (which is most unfortunate for world peace...);  whereas Hamas - who are equally deluded, claiming the  "freedom" to believe in the 'God-ordained' universal Caliphate - are not backed by the Pentagon. 

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Who created ISIS Bobby?


More dumb questions.

Try asking google, so you don't have to keep asking dumb questions:

"ISIS, or the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, was created in April 2013 when the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) merged with the al-Nusra Front and expanded into Syria. The group announced its new name, Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIL), following this merger.






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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.


So Hamas were aware that they were unaware of where the bodies were of the people they had taken hostage and murdered, but they still agreed to ceasefire terms that required them to return all the bodies?

If you kidnap people from an enemy state with a vastly superior military, don't you think it would make sense to prioritise keeping track of where they are and who murdered them? Or at least flag that you had lost track of some of them before taking on an obligation to return them? They were the centrepiece of the entire war.
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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
So Hamas were aware that they were unaware of where the bodies were of the people they had taken hostage and murdered, but they still agreed to ceasefire terms that required them to return all the bodies?

If you kidnap people from an enemy state with a vastly superior military, don't you think it would make sense to prioritise keeping track of where they are and who murdered them? Or at least flag that you had lost track of some of them before taking on an obligation to return them? They were the centrepiece of the entire war.



Dear FD,
in case you didn't know - Hamas is very disorganised -
in many cases the Hamas members who knew under which demolished buildings the
dead Israelis were, have also been killed by bombings -
those former Hamas members are lying dead under buildings too.
The whole of Gaza is a demolition site.
There could be 100,000 corpses lying under the rubble - maybe more?
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No it isn't Bobby. Gaza city might be.
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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 4:59pm:
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The whole of Gaza is a demolition site.


No it isn't Bobby. Gaza city might be.



Just Google it -
Gaza looks like Hiroshima after WW2.

I'm sick of having to Google for you.   Roll Eyes
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Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might.
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freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 5:18pm:
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Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might.



Are there any buildings left standing?    Undecided
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Yes Bobby.
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Reply #75 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 9:22pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 5:18pm:
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Just Google it -


Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might.



Are there any buildings left standing?    Undecided




freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 8:13am:
Yes Bobby.



umm -  not many -


https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-palestinians-drone-footage-destruction-ce...
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Reply #76 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:30am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:25am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 9:22pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 5:18pm:
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Just Google it -


Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might.



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freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 8:13am:
Yes Bobby.



umm -  not many -


https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-palestinians-drone-footage-destruction-ce...


No sure how many ways I can explain the same thing to you Bobby. No-one is going round collecting footage of the buildings that are still standing. They are collecting footage of the worst destruction in Gaza city. Sitting in your living room looking at online videos is not going to tell you the extent of the destruction. Contrary to your delusions of grandeur, it does not make you a journalist.
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Reply #78 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:31am
 
You know Gaza is bigger than that, right Bobby?
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Reply #79 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:32am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:31am:
You know Gaza is bigger than that, right Bobby?



I looked at many websites -
I can't find any buildings still standing - can you?
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Reply #80 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:36am
 
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I looked at many websites


You know Gaza is not a website, right Bobby?
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Reply #81 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:50am
 
FD,
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Contrary to your delusions of grandeur, it does not make you a journalist.



No - I'm a knight of the round table -
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Reply #82 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:06am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:30am:
No sure how many ways I can explain the same thing to you Bobby. No-one is going round collecting footage of the buildings that are still standing. They are collecting footage of the worst destruction in Gaza city. Sitting in your living room looking at online videos is not going to tell you the extent of the destruction. Contrary to your delusions of grandeur, it does not make you a journalist.


Think about it Bobby. What does the fact that google is only showing you photos of destruction tell you? Does it tell you the extent of destruction, or does it tell you what people are posting online and what people are interested in looking at online?
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Reply #83 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:17am
 

I suppose it's a bit like Hiroshima ?  -
some building were still left standing.


https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-33787169



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Reply #84 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:18am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.


So Hamas were aware that they were unaware...


Your error: Hamas is more than one group;  Hamas reps negotiating with the US and Arab reps  in Egypt are not the Hamas militants being slaughtered by the IDF in Gaza.


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If you kidnap people from an enemy state with a vastly superior military, don't you think it would make sense to prioritise keeping track of where they are and who murdered them? Or at least flag that you had lost track of some of them before taking on an obligation to return them? They were the centrepiece of the entire war.


See above.
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Reply #85 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:26am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:18am:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.


So Hamas were aware that they were unaware...


Your error: Hamas is more than one group;  Hamas reps negotiating with the US and Arab reps  in Egypt are not the Hamas militants being slaughtered by the IDF in Gaza.


So if we negotiate a peace deal with Hamas reps in Egypt, we are not actually negotiating a peace deal with the rest of Hamas, because they are different Hama's?

Where did you get this from?
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Reply #86 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:28am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 9:30am:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/thousands-of-palestinians-return-to-...


[url]https://th-i.thgim.com/public/incoming/3jva1h/article70150829.ece/alt
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yep that looks pretty evil to me Sad And to add insult, they expect Hamas to drag out corpses that are buried beneath tonnes of rubble, and if they don',t the IDF will go on another murderous rampage and create more corpses. See if that makes any sense Sad
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Reply #87 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:30am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:17am:
I suppose it's a bit like Hiroshima ?  -
some building were still left standing.


https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-33787169



[url]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/10110/production/
_84680856_hi027729194.jpg[/url]


Yes Bobby, some buildings were undamaged in Hiroshima. Unless you count radiation. But they didn't make the newspapers.
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Reply #88 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:31am
 
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?
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Reply #89 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:31am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:26am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:18am:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.


So Hamas were aware that they were unaware...


Your error: Hamas is more than one group;  Hamas reps negotiating with the US and Arab reps  in Egypt are not the Hamas militants being slaughtered by the IDF in Gaza.


So if we negotiate a peace deal with Hamas reps in Egypt, we are not actually negotiating a peace deal with the rest of Hamas, because they are different Hama's?

Where did you get this from?


you never stuck to any of the others (march 18) and then find one where you can restart the war over a handful of missing corpses whilst creating thousands of more corpses Sad
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freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:31am:
Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?


It's zions FD. get it right will you Sad
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you never stuck to any of the others (march 18)


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Reply #92 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:38am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:31am:
you never stuck to any of the others (march 18) and then find one where you can restart the war over a handful of missing corpses whilst creating thousands of more corpses Sad



Not only that - there could still be some buildings left standing -
they need to be demolished too.

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freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:32am:
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you never stuck to any of the others (march 18)


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Who do you think I am Nail?


A zion sympathizer !!
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Reply #94 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:42am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:32am:
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you never stuck to any of the others (march 18)


Shocked

Who do you think I am Nail?


A zion sympathizer !!


Newsflash: nearly the whole word supports Israel's right to exist.

What agreement do you think I violated, and how?
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Reply #95 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 11:39am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:32am:
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you never stuck to any of the others (march 18)


Shocked

Who do you think I am Nail?


A zion sympathizer !!


Newsflash: nearly the whole word supports Israel's right to exist.

What agreement do you think I violated, and how?


That was never how it was framed !!


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Reply #96 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 12:04pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 11:39am:
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:32am:
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you never stuck to any of the others (march 18)


Shocked

Who do you think I am Nail?


A zion sympathizer !!


Newsflash: nearly the whole word supports Israel's right to exist.

What agreement do you think I violated, and how?


That was never how it was framed !!


That is how you frame it. You label anyone who supports Israel's right to exist, including me, as a "zion sympathizer".

What agreement do you think I violated, and how?

Who cares whether in 1917 the British expressed "sympathy" or "support" for Israel's creation? Why do you think it matters? Or do you not even bother reading the idiotic memes you post?
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Oh look it's all an Israeli conspiracy !!
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Reply #99 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 7:21pm
 
Hi sir brave Nail,
it seems like wanton destruction and vandalism -
it's a form of genocide.
What would Israel do if the Arabs turned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?
I'm sure Israel would go nuclear long before it happened.


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Reply #100 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am
 
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What would Israel do if the Arabs tuned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.
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Reply #101 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:42am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am:
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What would Israel do if the Arabs tuned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.


Man, you come right out of a comic book Cheesy LOL
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Reply #102 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:48am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am:
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What would Israel do if the Arabs turned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.



I mean if they actually did it - turned Tel Aviv into a new Gaza?

Do you know that Tel Aviv is only a one hour drive in a tank from all the borders?

Lebanon,
Syria,
Jordan,
Egypt.

Israel has no strategic depth.


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Reply #103 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 9:11am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:48am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am:
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What would Israel do if the Arabs turned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.



I mean if they actually did it - turned Tel Aviv into a new Gaza?

Do you know that Tel Aviv is only a one hour drive in a tank from all the borders?

Lebanon,
Syria,
Jordan,
Egypt.

Israel has no strategic depth.


I doubt the Jews would do anything. They would all be dead. Maybe the women would be off getting raped somewhere in the middle east. The Muslims would either be pleading that they were not collaborating with the Jews, or stealing everything in sight.
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Reply #104 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 12:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:26am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:18am:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2025 at 11:27am:
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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza,  when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt


So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?


Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them -  has been lost.


So Hamas were aware that they were unaware...


Your error: Hamas is more than one group;  Hamas reps negotiating with the US and Arab reps  in Egypt are not the Hamas militants being slaughtered by the IDF in Gaza.


So if we negotiate a peace deal with Hamas reps in Egypt, we are not actually negotiating a peace deal with the rest of Hamas, because they are different Hama's?


Correct. Hamas people negotiating in a luxury hotel in Egypt are not the militants dying in Gaza. 

Quote:
Where did you get this from?


Logic. The negotiators in Egypt couldn't be aware of the specifics of the carnage in Gaza - changing from hour to hour - including the locality of dead bodies in Gaza's ever increasing pile of rubble while the negotiations were taking place in Egypt.

Today of course Israel is blaming Hamas for not abiding by the terms of the cease-fire  - who'd have thunk it....

But Trump is being disingenuous; he either implements UN res 181 and sacrifices Bibi, or he doesn't and sacrifices his relations with the Arab world. 

His choice.   


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Logic. The negotiators in Egypt couldn't be aware of the specifics of the carnage in Gaza - changing from hour to hour - including the locality of dead bodies in Gaza's ever increasing pile of rubble while the negotiations were taking place in Egypt.


Why could they not be aware of what is happening in Gaza? As Hamas's reps, that's kind of their job, isn't it?

How are the dead bodies moving around every hour? Are you saying their is some kind of zombie apocalypse going on?

It has been going on for 2 years now. They don't need an hourly update to know if Hamas is able to return the bodies of the people they kidnapped and murdered.
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Reply #106 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 2:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 9:11am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:48am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am:
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What would Israel do if the Arabs turned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.



I mean if they actually did it - turned Tel Aviv into a new Gaza?

Do you know that Tel Aviv is only a one hour drive in a tank from all the borders?

Lebanon,
Syria,
Jordan,
Egypt.

Israel has no strategic depth.


I doubt the Jews would do anything. They would all be dead. Maybe the women would be off getting raped somewhere in the middle east. The Muslims would either be pleading that they were not collaborating with the Jews, or stealing everything in sight.



Who is "they"    - the Jews or the Arabs?
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Reply #107 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 2:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 2:04pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 9:11am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:48am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:38am:
Quote:
What would Israel do if the Arabs turned Tel Aviv into a wasteland like that?


They have tried plenty of times Bobby. They defended themselves, but otherwise were very forgiving.



I mean if they actually did it - turned Tel Aviv into a new Gaza?

Do you know that Tel Aviv is only a one hour drive in a tank from all the borders?

Lebanon,
Syria,
Jordan,
Egypt.

Israel has no strategic depth.


I doubt the Jews would do anything. They would all be dead. Maybe the women would be off getting raped somewhere in the middle east. The Muslims would either be pleading that they were not collaborating with the Jews, or stealing everything in sight.


Who is "they"    - the Jews or the Arabs?


The Jews would.
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Reply #108 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm
 
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.
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Reply #109 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.
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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #110 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.



They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.
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Reply #111 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.
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Reply #112 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:40pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.



China is supplying Iran with the latest high tech military devices: jets, radars, missiles.
All of Israel's enemies are re-arming.
They will try again.
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Reply #113 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.



China is supplying Iran with the latest high tech military devices: jets, radars, missiles.
All of Israel's enemies are re-arming.
They will try again.


And what did Iran do with all that wonderful technology when Israel attacked them? You can give a caveman a gun, but that doesn't make him a soldier.
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Reply #114 - Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.



China is supplying Iran with the latest high tech military devices: jets, radars, missiles.
All of Israel's enemies are re-arming.
They will try again.


And what did Iran do with all that wonderful technology when Israel attacked them? You can give a caveman a gun, but that doesn't make him a soldier.



Israel made a joke out of Iran in the 12 day war.
Iran failed to shoot down even one Israeli jet and took huge losses.
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Reply #115 - Oct 21st, 2025 at 10:07am
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx20p0qx50no

Palestinian woman in hospital after being clubbed by masked Israeli settler


3 hours ago


A 55-year-old Palestinian woman has been taken to hospital after being clubbed over the head
by a masked Jewish settler as she was picking olives.


In 2025, more than 3,200 Palestinians have been injured in settler attacks across the West Bank, according to Ocha.

Attacks are intended, monitors say, to intimidate Palestinians and eventually drive them from their land so settlers can seize it. The vast majority go unpunished, with just 3% of official investigations into settler violence between 2005 and 2023 ending in a conviction, according to Israeli civil rights group Yesh Din. Many incidents are not investigated.



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Reply #116 - Oct 22nd, 2025 at 11:49am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 1:11pm:
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Logic. The negotiators in Egypt couldn't be aware of the specifics of the carnage in Gaza - changing from hour to hour - including the locality of dead bodies in Gaza's ever increasing pile of rubble while the negotiations were taking place in Egypt.


Why could they not be aware of what is happening in Gaza? As Hamas's reps, that's kind of their job, isn't it?

How are the dead bodies moving around every hour? Are you saying their is some kind of zombie apocalypse going on?


As JD Vance, who is visiting Israel today to try to keep the peace process on track (something Bibi doesn't want now he's got the living hostage back) explained to the relatives who want ther dead relatives back: "have patience, the bodies are under tons of rubble, and will time to locate".   

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It has been going on for 2 years now. They don't need an hourly update to know if Hamas is able to return the bodies of the people they kidnapped and murdered.


That's not the issue - of which Vance is well aware.
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Reply #117 - Oct 22nd, 2025 at 11:55am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 21st, 2025 at 10:07am:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx20p0qx50no

Palestinian woman in hospital after being clubbed by masked Israeli settler


3 hours ago


A 55-year-old Palestinian woman has been taken to hospital after being clubbed over the head
by a masked Jewish settler as she was picking olives.


In 2025, more than 3,200 Palestinians have been injured in settler attacks across the West Bank, according to Ocha.

Attacks are intended, monitors say, to intimidate Palestinians and eventually drive them from their land so settlers can seize it. The vast majority go unpunished, with just 3% of official investigations into settler violence between 2005 and 2023 ending in a conviction, according to Israeli civil rights group Yesh Din. Many incidents are not investigated.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/12ee/live/daf67020-ada8-11f0-b0cb-eb...


The ugly Jew;  it's time for an ultimatum: get out of land designated as Palestinian by the UN, or die as matyrs for the delusional  "Promised Land" mythology.    

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Reply #118 - Oct 22nd, 2025 at 12:19pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 22nd, 2025 at 11:49am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 1:11pm:
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Logic. The negotiators in Egypt couldn't be aware of the specifics of the carnage in Gaza - changing from hour to hour - including the locality of dead bodies in Gaza's ever increasing pile of rubble while the negotiations were taking place in Egypt.


Why could they not be aware of what is happening in Gaza? As Hamas's reps, that's kind of their job, isn't it?

How are the dead bodies moving around every hour? Are you saying their is some kind of zombie apocalypse going on?


As JD Vance, who is visiting Israel today to try to keep the peace process on track (something Bibi doesn't want now he's got the living hostage back) explained to the relatives who want ther dead relatives back: "have patience, the bodies are under tons of rubble, and will time to locate".   

Quote:
It has been going on for 2 years now. They don't need an hourly update to know if Hamas is able to return the bodies of the people they kidnapped and murdered.


That's not the issue - of which Vance is well aware.


Are they moving around under the rubble every hour? If Hamas is unaware of their movements, how are you?
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Reply #119 - Oct 23rd, 2025 at 8:19pm
 
Check it out !

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How Israel Was Created Through Terrorism

Netanyahu says that recognizing a Palestinian state rewards terrorism, but Israel was founded by European Jewish terrorist groups, who not only ethnically cleansed nearly a million Palestinians during the 1940s but also murdered 712 British civilians, diplomats, and soldiers during the Mandate era. This 1947 article discusses the Sergeants Case, in which Jewish terrorists murdered 83 British soldiers and then kidnapped two more for ransom. When Britain didnt meet their demands, they tortured and hanged them. The Jews also booby-trapped their bodies, which severely injured a British officer when they were cut down. A note was written on their bodies, warning that more Britons would be killed. The Jew who led this terrorist act, Menachem Begin, would later become Prime Minister of Israel and receive a Nobel Peace Prize. British, Americans, and Europeans are deliberately never taught this story in school.
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Reply #120 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.
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Reply #121 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.
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Reply #122 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 1:43pm
 
There are some buildings still standing in Gaza:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-25-2025/

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Reply #123 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 3:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2025 at 1:43pm:



Invest in weapons and building materials. Can't go wrong.

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Reply #124 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?
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Reply #125 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:45am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?


No.

You can check them out for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
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Reply #126 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:24am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:45am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?


No.

You can check them out for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index



Cheers. Your link rates the US as a flawed democracy - the same category as India under Modi and South Africa under Cyril Ramaphosa.

It's currently trending towards a hybrid regime, with a recent slide towards authoritarian rule.

What say you?

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Reply #127 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:58am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:24am:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:45am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?


No.

You can check them out for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index



Cheers. Your link rates the US as a flawed democracy - the same category as India under Modi and South Africa under Cyril Ramaphosa.

It's currently trending towards a hybrid regime, with a recent slide towards authoritarian rule.

What say you?



I blame first past the post vote counting.

I think you are putting a bit of spin on it. It is well ahead of India and South Africa. It is closer to being rated a full democracy than it is to those two countries.
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Reply #128 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 1:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:24am:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:45am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?


No.

You can check them out for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index



Cheers. Your link rates the US as a flawed democracy - the same category as India under Modi and South Africa under Cyril Ramaphosa.

It's currently trending towards a hybrid regime, with a recent slide towards authoritarian rule.

What say you?



I blame first past the post vote counting.

I think you are putting a bit of spin on it. It is well ahead of India and South Africa. It is closer to being rated a full democracy than it is to those two countries.


Now you understand the Muslims' resentment of the confiscation of half the Palestine Mandate (as per UN res 181), are you barracking for Trump's peace plan ...as he warns Bibi to drop the illegal extremist RW Jew-proposed annexation of the WB?
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Now you understand the Muslims' resentment of the confiscation of half the Palestine Mandate (as per UN res 181), are you barracking for Trump's peace plan ...as he warns Bibi to drop the illegal extremist RW Jew-proposed annexation of the WB?


Gibberish.
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Reply #130 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 8:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:58am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 11:24am:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:45am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:08am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 12:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 5:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Well FD,
one day: the Arabs, Turks & Persians will get themselves organised
and take down Israel - it won't be pretty.
The nearest we had was in 1973 but Israel won that.
52 years have passed and tensions are still high.
Israel is in a permanent state of war.


I think they have learned their lesson. But it would not surprise me if they tried again. It would surprise me if they won.


They would like to try again but they can't seem to get themselves organised.


That's not it Bobby. Their military is simply vastly inferior. Cannon fodder does not win wars any more. They would not just have to organise a military, they would have to organise their whole society, but in doing that they would lose the will to slaughter Jews.

There is a reason why all the powerful militaries in the world are attached to the liberal democracies.


You mean like the US of A?

Oh-er, that's a question.


Yes.


Is Russia a liberal democracy too, FD?


No.

You can check them out for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index



Cheers. Your link rates the US as a flawed democracy - the same category as India under Modi and South Africa under Cyril Ramaphosa.

It's currently trending towards a hybrid regime, with a recent slide towards authoritarian rule.

What say you?



I blame first past the post vote counting.

I think you are putting a bit of spin on it. It is well ahead of India and South Africa. It is closer to being rated a full democracy than it is to those two countries.


Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?

Most countries are first past the post. You may care to read your own source, dear.
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

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Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.
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Reply #132 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:33pm
 
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

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Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.


Oh? I'm seeing 25 full democracies on your list, FD. The US isn't one.

Now, first you said we're giving you spin, now you're telling us to figure it out for ourselves. Which would you prefer?

Just thinking out loud here, FD, but perhaps when you raised the subject of liberal democracies, you actually meant flawed democracies.

It's the only logical conclusion we can make, dear.

Israel's even further down the list of flawed democracies than the US of A.
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Reply #133 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:48pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

Quote:
Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.


Oh? I'm seeing 25 full democracies on your list, FD. The US isn't one.

Now, first you said we're giving you spin, now you're telling us to figure it out for ourselves. Which would you prefer?

Just thinking out loud here, FD, but perhaps when you raised the subject of liberal democracies, you actually meant flawed democracies.

It's the only logical conclusion we can make, dear.

Israel's even further down the list of flawed democracies than the US of A.



Australia is also a flawed democracy -
a one party State with 2 main branches: Labor and Liberal.

We saw totalitarianism during Covid.



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Reply #134 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 6:47am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

Quote:
Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.


Oh? I'm seeing 25 full democracies on your list, FD. The US isn't one.

Now, first you said we're giving you spin, now you're telling us to figure it out for ourselves. Which would you prefer?

Just thinking out loud here, FD, but perhaps when you raised the subject of liberal democracies, you actually meant flawed democracies.

It's the only logical conclusion we can make, dear.

Israel's even further down the list of flawed democracies than the US of A.


Do you have a point Karnal?

I did not claim the US was ranked as a full democracy on the list. Do you disagree with anything I actually said? What is it you think the link does not say?
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Reply #135 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:48pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

Quote:
Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.


Oh? I'm seeing 25 full democracies on your list, FD. The US isn't one.

Now, first you said we're giving you spin, now you're telling us to figure it out for ourselves. Which would you prefer?

Just thinking out loud here, FD, but perhaps when you raised the subject of liberal democracies, you actually meant flawed democracies.

It's the only logical conclusion we can make, dear.

Israel's even further down the list of flawed democracies than the US of A.



Australia is also a flawed democracy -
a one party State with 2 main branches: Labor and Liberal.

We saw totalitarianism during Covid.





Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.
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Reply #136 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:28pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.



It's obvious even to blind Freddy -
you don't need a link.

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Reply #137 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 6:47am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
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Strange. Your link doesn't say that, now does it?


Doesn't say what Karnal? Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.

Quote:
Most countries are first past the post.


Most countries are not democracies.


Oh? I'm seeing 25 full democracies on your list, FD. The US isn't one.

Now, first you said we're giving you spin, now you're telling us to figure it out for ourselves. Which would you prefer?

Just thinking out loud here, FD, but perhaps when you raised the subject of liberal democracies, you actually meant flawed democracies.

It's the only logical conclusion we can make, dear.

Israel's even further down the list of flawed democracies than the US of A.


Do you have a point Karnal?

I did not claim the US was ranked as a full democracy on the list. Do you disagree with anything I actually said? What is it you think the link does not say?


Why yes, I think I do.

The belief that Freeeedom equates to superior firepower is clearly false.

Particularly when the number one military is on a trajectory” toward authoritarian rule, according to a sobering new intelligence-style assessment by former US intelligence and national security officials, who warn that democratic backsliding is accelerating under the Trump administration – and may soon become entrenched without organized resistance..

If you truly believed those Cold War platitudes of yours, you'd have something to say about the current shift towards fascism.

The world currently hates the Israeli government not for being Jews, but for being fascists too.
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Reply #138 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:35pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.



It's obvious even to blind Freddy -
you don't need a link.

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The belief that Freeeedom equates to superior firepower is clearly false.


Any particular reason?

Can you cite one factor, other than economic or political inclusiveness, that is more closely correlated with a country's per capita wealth or military strength?

Or is it just your own use of the word "equate" that you are tripping yourself up on?
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Reply #140 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:59pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.



It's obvious even to blind Freddy -
you don't need a link.

forgiven

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Okay, then you're proven wrong. FD gave you a link.




Look Paki,
no matter who I vote for it's either Labor or Liberal that gets into power.

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Reply #141 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 3:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:59pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.



It's obvious even to blind Freddy -
you don't need a link.

forgiven

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Okay, then you're proven wrong. FD gave you a link.




Look Paki,
no matter who I vote for it's either Labor or Liberal that gets into power.



That's because so many people vote for them Bobby. Disapproving of how other people vote does not mean you live in a dictatorship.

And power is often shared between multiple parties.
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Reply #142 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 3:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 3:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:59pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
Have you got a link for that?

FD's shows Australia close to the top of the list of full democracies.



It's obvious even to blind Freddy -
you don't need a link.

forgiven

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Okay, then you're proven wrong. FD gave you a link.




Look Paki,
no matter who I vote for it's either Labor or Liberal that gets into power.



That's because so many people vote for them Bobby. Disapproving of how other people vote does not mean you live in a dictatorship.

And power is often shared between multiple parties.



Albo got in with only 1/3rd of the vote and it was a landslide victory.

That means that 2/3rds of people didn't want him to be PM -
sounds like a great democracy -  NOT.     Roll Eyes
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Bobby, you are confusing democracy with everyone agreeing with each other. They are not the same thing. There can only be one PM, no matter how many different people are in the running. We do not vote so that our representatives can make half a decision.
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freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 3:46pm:
Bobby, you are confusing democracy with everyone agreeing with each other. They are not the same thing. There can only be one PM, no matter how many different people are in the running. We do not vote so that our representatives can make half a decision.



But Albo showed no humility -

he boasted about his landslide win and never said -

oh dear - only 1/3rd of you voted for me so most of my decisions
will require opposition support.

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But Albo showed no humility -


That's not democracy either Bobby.

Your disapproval of how an elected leader behaves does not mean we live in a dictatorship.
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Reply #146 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 4:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
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The belief that Freeeedom equates to superior firepower is clearly false.


Any particular reason?

Can you cite one factor, other than economic or political inclusiveness, that is more closely correlated with a country's per capita wealth or military strength?

Or is it just your own use of the word "equate" that you are tripping yourself up on?


I could cite plenty. Chi-na and Russia Russia Russia would probably meet your criteria well, but I've a question for you.

If you're here to champion liberal democracy, what is your view on the US's current global threat to it?

You haven't said.
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One will do. And I meant the "per capita" bit to apply to military strength also.
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Reply #148 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 10:54pm
 
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I could cite plenty.


One will do. And I meant the "per capita" bit to apply to military strength also.


I see. Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we have another.

Do you support your DL destroying liberal democracy as your own link shows?

Answer that, FD. A simple yes or no is all we need. 
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Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
If you're here to champion liberal democracy, what is your view on the US's current global threat to it?

You haven't said.

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Frank wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 7:59am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
If you're here to champion liberal democracy, what is your view on the US's current global threat to it?

You haven't said.

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freediver wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 8:07am:
Frank wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 7:59am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
If you're here to champion liberal democracy, what is your view on the US's current global threat to it?

You haven't said.

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Well put, Frank.


FD? You didn't say.

Have we touched on a sore spot, dear?

Did you mean liberal democracy, or was that just a slip of the tongue?
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Hi FD, have you moved on?
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Excuse I. It would appear you've moved on to an analysis of the civil war in Sudan.

freediver wrote on Oct 31st, 2025 at 1:34pm:
Sudanese are mostly Muslims. Without Jews or white people to blame, there is nothing for them to say.
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Check it out.
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"All of the arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a UN member state and properly constituted." - Jeffrey Sachs.
 
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Check it out. The zions want to offer organized scenic tours of gaza to try and cover up their war crimes.

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Christians In Nigeria Disguise Themselves As Palestinians So People Will Care About Them Being Genocided


YELWATA — In a last-ditch effort to survive, Christians in Nigeria disguised themselves as Palestinians in hopes that people around the world would suddenly care about them being genocided.

The oppressed and beleaguered followers of Christ reported that dressing up as Palestinian people was perhaps their last hope to get the attention of protesters, influencers, podcasters, news reporters, and Hollywood celebrities and make them care about their being eradicated by Islamic terrorists.

"It would be great if this works," said one Christian man who feared for his life. "We're getting wiped out here, and nobody seems to notice. But we've seen how passionately everyone advocates for Palestinians, so hopefully these disguises will get at least a few people online to care about us."

Christian communities have been ravaged by marauding bands of Muslim extremists, while the situation has gone largely unreported and unnoticed by the world at large. "Those poor, poor Palestinians," said one protester. "It's such a shame that the situation in Gaza is the only genocide going on in the world right now. If there were other groups of people being genocided, we would call attention to it, but nope. Just Palestinians."

The remaining Christians in Nigeria were unsure if they would survive long enough for their plan to be effective. "It's really bad here," another believer said. "We're going to try to disguise ourselves as Palestinians, but getting actual help would really be great."

At publishing time, online influencers had suddenly taken an interest in the genocide of Nigerian Christians after being told that Israel may be to blame.
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Could You Imagine A More Terrorist State Than Israel? (A quick thought experiment.)
Thought experiments are quite useful for figuring things out. War games are played out constantly by the sociopaths who like to start lots of wars. Businesses play out scenarios to find holes in their security. So why shouldn’t we normies play out some thought experiments of our own?

Here’s one for you: If Israel didn’t exist, could you imagine, in your wildest dreams, a more terrorist nation than Israel?

For some of you, your answer may be yes and that means - Congratulations! - you have a greater imagination that I. If your answer is yes, it means whatever crazy unhinged place of lunacy you’ve invented in the far reaches of your gray matter, it is guilty of at least all the following acts that Israel has been clearly documented as committing:

    - Killing more journalists than any conflict ever
    - Regularly torturing prisoners
    - Holding at least 9,000 hostages at this very moment (had at least 5,000 hostages before Oct. 7th)
    - Regularly using human shields
    - Sexually assaulting hostages
    - Murdering people even during “ceasefires”
    - Using medical supplies/ equipment as weapons of war
    - Murdering whole families rather than merely killing one target
    - Murdering children as Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
    - Starving people to death as SOP
    - Bombing hospitals as SOP
    - Bombing schools as SOP
    - Bombing aid workers as SOP
    - Bombing UN workers as SOP
    - Bombing religious sites as SOP
    - Massive land theft as SOP
    - Desecrating cemeteries as SOP
    - Killing more UN workers than any conflict ever
    - Torturing UN workers
    - Torturing celebrities that it kidnapped in international waters
    - Dropping pallets of food on people
    - Playing the sound of crying babies and women screaming to entice people out of their homes and then killing them
    - Committing the largest terror attack in many years by exploding thousands of pagers in Lebanon, which killed and maimed countless children, doctors, nurses, etc.
    - Let’s not forget committing the dictionary definition of a genocide
    - The list goes on… (Please feel free to add to this list in the comment section.)


Fun thought experiment, huh? But seriously, can you come up with a more terrorist nation that present-day Israel? It’s not easy and likely involves a vivid imagination, a lot of time, and a bottle of whiskey.

(To get this column for free with a link/source for every single accusation, just look up "RealLeeCamp" on subs tack.)
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Reply #158 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 11:24am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Quote:
Could You Imagine A More Terrorist State Than Israel? (A quick thought experiment.)
Thought experiments are quite useful for figuring things out. War games are played out constantly by the sociopaths who like to start lots of wars. Businesses play out scenarios to find holes in their security. So why shouldn’t we normies play out some thought experiments of our own?

Here’s one for you: If Israel didn’t exist, could you imagine, in your wildest dreams, a more terrorist nation than Israel?

For some of you, your answer may be yes and that means - Congratulations! - you have a greater imagination that I. If your answer is yes, it means whatever crazy unhinged place of lunacy you’ve invented in the far reaches of your gray matter, it is guilty of at least all the following acts that Israel has been clearly documented as committing:

    - Killing more journalists than any conflict ever
    - Regularly torturing prisoners
    - Holding at least 9,000 hostages at this very moment (had at least 5,000 hostages before Oct. 7th)
    - Regularly using human shields
    - Sexually assaulting hostages
    - Murdering people even during “ceasefires”
    - Using medical supplies/ equipment as weapons of war
    - Murdering whole families rather than merely killing one target
    - Murdering children as Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
    - Starving people to death as SOP
    - Bombing hospitals as SOP
    - Bombing schools as SOP
    - Bombing aid workers as SOP
    - Bombing UN workers as SOP
    - Bombing religious sites as SOP
    - Massive land theft as SOP
    - Desecrating cemeteries as SOP
    - Killing more UN workers than any conflict ever
    - Torturing UN workers
    - Torturing celebrities that it kidnapped in international waters
    - Dropping pallets of food on people
    - Playing the sound of crying babies and women screaming to entice people out of their homes and then killing them
    - Committing the largest terror attack in many years by exploding thousands of pagers in Lebanon, which killed and maimed countless children, doctors, nurses, etc.
    - Let’s not forget committing the dictionary definition of a genocide
    - The list goes on… (Please feel free to add to this list in the comment section.)

Fun thought experiment, huh? But seriously, can you come up with a more terrorist nation that present-day Israel? It’s not easy and likely involves a vivid imagination, a lot of time, and a bottle of whiskey.

(To get this column for free with a link/source for every single accusation, just look up "RealLeeCamp" on subs tack.)



dear sir brave Nail,
it's amazing Israel can get away with all that on live TV.
It's almost like they have put their finger up to the whole world
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Check it out !

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A viral video has been making the rounds featuring Charlie Kirk questioning Israel’s delayed response to the October 7th Hamas attacks, suggesting it raises serious questions about government accountability and U.S. funding to Israel.

Jimmy explores claims that the TPUSA founder faced backlash for his comments, including accusations of antisemitism, while emphasizing the importance of continuing to question official narratives.


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Bobby. wrote on Nov 5th, 2025 at 11:24am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Quote:
Could You Imagine A More Terrorist State Than Israel? (A quick thought experiment.)
Thought experiments are quite useful for figuring things out. War games are played out constantly by the sociopaths who like to start lots of wars. Businesses play out scenarios to find holes in their security. So why shouldn’t we normies play out some thought experiments of our own?

Here’s one for you: If Israel didn’t exist, could you imagine, in your wildest dreams, a more terrorist nation than Israel?

For some of you, your answer may be yes and that means - Congratulations! - you have a greater imagination that I. If your answer is yes, it means whatever crazy unhinged place of lunacy you’ve invented in the far reaches of your gray matter, it is guilty of at least all the following acts that Israel has been clearly documented as committing:

    - Killing more journalists than any conflict ever
    - Regularly torturing prisoners
    - Holding at least 9,000 hostages at this very moment (had at least 5,000 hostages before Oct. 7th)
    - Regularly using human shields
    - Sexually assaulting hostages
    - Murdering people even during “ceasefires”
    - Using medical supplies/ equipment as weapons of war
    - Murdering whole families rather than merely killing one target
    - Murdering children as Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
    - Starving people to death as SOP
    - Bombing hospitals as SOP
    - Bombing schools as SOP
    - Bombing aid workers as SOP
    - Bombing UN workers as SOP
    - Bombing religious sites as SOP
    - Massive land theft as SOP
    - Desecrating cemeteries as SOP
    - Killing more UN workers than any conflict ever
    - Torturing UN workers
    - Torturing celebrities that it kidnapped in international waters
    - Dropping pallets of food on people
    - Playing the sound of crying babies and women screaming to entice people out of their homes and then killing them
    - Committing the largest terror attack in many years by exploding thousands of pagers in Lebanon, which killed and maimed countless children, doctors, nurses, etc.
    - Let’s not forget committing the dictionary definition of a genocide
    - The list goes on… (Please feel free to add to this list in the comment section.)

Fun thought experiment, huh? But seriously, can you come up with a more terrorist nation that present-day Israel? It’s not easy and likely involves a vivid imagination, a lot of time, and a bottle of whiskey.

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dear sir brave Nail,
it's amazing Israel can get away with all that on live TV.
It's almost like they have put their finger up to the whole world
and told us all to get stuffed - they will do whatever they like.


That's because the whole world (the UN) let them down and allowed for Israel to be attacked (again).
What would you do if your Boss reprimanded your reaction to bring bullied by another employee, but was too scared to reprimand the Bully both in prevention and cure?
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