I call it a scam, especially when you have a gun at your head to accept it or else !!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 12:32pm:


You think so ??

Frank wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 5:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:47pm:

Claudia Webbe, eh?
Who she?

I was wondering why Trump lied and said that he ended seven wars, and also lied about being able to stop the Ukrainian war in 24 hours.

I'm wondering why the so-called "President of peace" has intensified existing wars and started new ones.

Here is the Good Oil:-

1) Gaza will be a deradicalised, terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbours.

2) Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.

3) If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed-upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.

4) Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.

5) Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life-sentence prisoners plus 1,700 Gazans who were detained after October 7 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.

6) Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.

7) Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025 agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.

8) Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.

9) Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace”, which will be headed and chaired by [US] president Donald J Trump, with other members and heads of state to be announced, including former prime minister Tony Blair.

This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform programme, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.

10) A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energise Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesise the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.

11) A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.

12) No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.

13) Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarisation of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buyback and reintegration programme all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with its neighbours.

14) A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas and the factions comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbours or its people.

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All he needs is a magic wand.

Frank wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 12:31am:



Sounds an awful lot like Vietnam/Vietnamisation and Afghanistan to me... remember Iraq and the police training academy there?  remember what happened to the Afghan national police?

Turn your back on them for five minutes and you are actually encouraging massacres of the very people you think you are relying on to bring order.  It Will Never Happen!

All it will do is give a chance for America to either escalate this war, or pull a cowardly retreat from aid to Israel - and Trump ain't gonna do the latter......

There is only one solution... the extermination of Hamas and all radical Islamists.  Marchons, mes enfants!!  Gird up your loins....

As long as they are stuck in intergenerational rage and victimhood, they will have to be closely controlled.

If they want to break out of their own personal hell. The Palestinians will need to drop the victimhood, smile, raise joyful creative children , contribute more then throwing bricks at tanks.

This won't happen whilst the left pander to them

They will need a stern, firm but fair, father figure to guide them

I think the plan is pretty awesome 💯💯

Your problem is that you unthinkingly equate Israel's strength, and Israel's military victories with aggression. This is often a reasonable assumption if you cannot be bothered looking at a problem any further than that, but it does rely on an assumption you are probably not aware of - that both parties act rationally. No sane, rational group would repeatedly start a war against a far more powerful foe, when they lose every time and end up demonstrably worse off every time. But the people of Gaza are not motivated by self interest and they are not sane and rational. They are motivated by Islam to slaughter Jews. When given a choice at the polls between peace and prosperity and a future for their children vs slaughtering Jews, they chose slaughtering Jews. They are not the perpetual victim. They are the perpetual aggressor. They have been trying to slaughter Jews for generations. The onus is entirely on them to stop the war. If the Palestinians laid down their weapons (and returned the hostages) there would be peace. If the Israelis did, there would be an actual genocide.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:47pm:



You must be a PALESTINIAN you post that much of their propaganda.

John Smith wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 1:45pm:


So it's not your complete ignorance of war that made up your mind. You just didn't know that civilians die in war?

The people of Gaza are like a junkie that is addicted to war. You can offer them all the help in the world to get over their addiction, but until they make the decision themselves it will not make any difference. You are just another hapless do-gooder making the same mistake that has been made 1000 times before, but expecting a different outcome because you simply cannot conceive of someone else making a different choice to you.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 9:50am:


Hamas would have to reconsider the Jihad thing if they want peace.

Have you read the Hamas covenant?
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp


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Why are leftists upset when their loftiest wish is death for the sake of Allah while doing Jihad?

Would it be awkward meeting your relatives in the Islamic afterlife while having an eternal boner?

freediver wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 1:42pm:


How strong would they be without the US $4 billion-plus a year in handouts from hardworking US taxpayers? What do US taxpayers get for their investment in a foreign rogue settler colony that engages in genocide against defenseless indigenous people ? Sounds like a bad deal to me

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 12:56pm:


I hold great respect for you as an individual with morals - but in this case you have spent far too long too deeply immersed in the 'narrative' instead of listening to the urgings of your own mind.

Heed not the propagandists...

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 6:53pm:


The US gets a better world. You do realise that plenty of Islamic terrorists see the US as the number 2 enemy, right after Israel?

But you are missing the point again. That aid does not mean that Israel is the aggressor, or that they are committing genocide. You are letting your emotional hysteria blind you to the facts. No matter how many times you repeat genocide, "defenseless indigenous people" or any other catchphrase, it does not make it true. These are not aborigines sitting around a fire doing a ceremony. They are Islamic militants literally plotting to slaughter Jews. Then carrying out those plots. As soon as Hamas wants peace, they can have it. Hamas is the only organisation standing between the people of Gaza and a future for their children. Even Muslim governments are now acknowledging this.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 6:57pm:


No I'm not like you or Palestinians.

This why the terrorist Palestinians/Hamas won't release the hostages.

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Gnads wrote on Oct 4^th, 2025 at 11:25am:


So you follow the old testament then ??

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MattE wrote on Oct 4^th, 2025 at 12:01pm:


Piece prize.

For being a worthless POS.

MattE wrote on Oct 4^th, 2025 at 12:01pm:


Sat 4 Oct 2025 20.22 AEST:

"Israel-Gaza live: airstrikes reported in Gaza despite Trump’s call for Israel to stop bombing ‘immediately’"

Netanyahu treats Trump the same way the rest of the world does - as a complete and utter joke.

So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do?

He keeps bombing and kills some more children.

Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump.

Leaders in Middle East and Europe welcome Trump's Gaza peace plan

5 days ago
Rushdi AbualoufGaza correspondent and
George Wright
Watch: Trump and Netanyahu outline peace plan to end war in Gaza

European and Middle Eastern leaders have welcomed a US peace plan for Gaza, as President Donald Trump warned Hamas to accept it.

The plan, agreed by Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, proposes an immediate end to fighting, the release within 72 hours of 20 living Israeli hostages held by Hamas as well as the remains of the more than two dozen hostages who are believed to be dead - in exchange for hundreds of detained Gazans.

Hamas officials have been given the 20-point plan, a Palestinian source told the BBC.

Leroy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:30am:

MattE wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 4:54pm:

I wonder how much of our foreign aid was pilfered by Hamas leaders

Leroy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:56pm:


You sure about that bro ??

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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 5:47pm:


Wow. You really are that gullible.

Why would they want to live in that rubble?

Let Trump and other business leaders rebuild it as a seaside resort , and the gazans can get jobs as gardeners and Uber drivers and janitors. 

They can actually do something productive.

The tunnels would make a great metro .

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:


There was nothing wrong with it until the Zions destroyed it for no good reason

Frank wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 5:39pm:



Again - they could have been citizens of Israel and still Arabs and Muslims if they had so chosen... they chose not to... they could have separated into the majority area of the Palestinian Mandate and remained as they were .. they chose not to... they could have remained on good terms with Israel from their new territories and continued to receive free power and such and some of the benefits of Israeli civilisation... they chose not to...

I have lost all time for them.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/802811909060833

A ceasefire has been agreed!

MattE wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am:


"Violence has flared again in Gaza overnight as Israeli airstrikes killed at least 50 people, including 22 children."

freediver wrote on Oct 29^th, 2025 at 8:45pm:


That's Netanyahu's genocide continuing, exactly as I predicted.

He is, once again, targeting children.

You're defending one of the biggest monsters of the 21st century.

"Violence has flared again in Gaza overnight as Israeli airstrikes killed at least 50 people, including 22 children."

Only Islamophobes would say this is wrong