Few world conflicts are more misunderstood than Israel-Palestine.

From the region's name to its respective causes, cultures, religions, ethnicity, and traditions, in every category - myths, legends, and outright fabrications often trump easily sourced facts.

Here are some of the most common.

' There's no such place as Palestine or Palestinians - it's an Arab fabrication'. Fact: The region was named Syria Palestina by Emperor Hadrian after the Bar Kochba revolt as an insult to Jews, whom the Emperor intended not just to permanently 'cleanse' the land of them, but to obliterate any trace of their existence within it - 'Philistines' being the name of then-extinct ancient enemies of the Jews.

'Arabs are obsessed with slaughtering Jews.' Fact: Arab anger is focused entirely on Jewish/Israeli confiscation of claimed Arab land. Exponentially more obsessed with persecuting and murdering Jews were, collectively, the Europeans. From massive expulsions, to pogroms, economic restrictions and prohibitions, to a Holocaust... over nearly 2000 years, the Europeans did it all and more, which explains the post-war collective Jewish desire to rid themselves of the scourge of Europeans.

'Israelis are obsessed with slaughtering Arabs.' Fact: Jewish suspicion/aggression towards Arabs is existential. While Israelis and diaspora Jews claim an unbroken connection to the land, they are not insensitive to the valid Arab claim that they had occupied and owned the land for over 1000 years. It has become a case of who prevails in support of their respective, and arguably equally valid, claim.

freediver wrote on Nov 11^th, 2025 at 10:24am:


Perhaps Meister sees the conflict as unsolvable, regardless of 'opinions'. 

Eg, he writes "It has become a case of who prevails in support of their respective, and arguably equally valid, claim.

I disgree with his comment there (underlined): the fact is the UN - arbiter of international law since 1945 - voted to confiscate half of Palestine in 1947; and the solution to the conflict lies in the UN implementing its own resolution ie UN res 181.  (Trump is blindly edging to that solution, but he will get waylaid by the opposition to UN res 181).

(The fact that, absurdly, the individual UNSC members were granted access to the veto, thereby rendering the UN incapable of advancing international law, is a sad reflection of human nature's blind instincts re "freedom".)   

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YOUR obsession with "opinion" - as opposed to law, is explained above.

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Curious to whom?

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

Yes, the UNGA voted to partition Palestine after UNSCOP had debated the Arab-Jewish conflict. Their debated options were: partition into Arab-ruled Palestine and Jewish-ruled Israel with Jerusalem governed by the UN as an international city; or preservation of Arab-ruled Palestine with autonomous Jewish enclaves within the State of Palestine. The committee, chaired by Australian H W 'Doc' Evatt, decided on a Partition vote.

The British had had enough, having got it in the neck from the Arabs for betraying them, and the Zionist militants who began a terror campaign against the British mandate, resulting in the torture and murders of Palestine-based British troops and British civilians, including the assassination of the British Minister for Palestine, Lord Moyne, along with armed robberies of weapons caches and banks.

Britain did not believe either solution was workable and advised the UN that it wanted out, stating it would not enforce the partition, as it deemed it unenforceable.

Britain, which had been deeply involved with leaders from both sides of the conflict, was convinced that both had valid arguments for land claims, but neither would compromise with the other - the Arabs rejected any foreign ownership of Arab land; the Zionists claimed the ancient kingdoms/borders of Judaea, Samaria and Israel as theirs by cultural inheritance, with Ben Gurion's moderates agreeing to anything they could get as a 'Stage One'.

freediver wrote on Nov 11^th, 2025 at 1:19pm:

I'd bet the Haredim do.

I have 3 times as many posts as you Meister. I also have my own thoughts. Do you?

Do you have a final solution in mind for all the "zionists" Meister?

And they - Israel exists.

And it's a far better place than any of the Muslim shiteholes.



Reality, innit.

Frank wrote on Nov 11^th, 2025 at 2:59pm:

Oh, really!

Check out the cities of the Gulf states, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain...

Or Riyadh, or Amman...