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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #240 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

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Its a straw man - Nobody is saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. The argument is that they don't have the right to murder over 60,000 innocent people.

Yes they do. It's an act of self defence and NO DIFFERENT to USA's (and with Russian and global support) retaliation to 9/11.

Eat poo.

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Reply #241 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:46pm

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Yeah - nobody can work with the Pallos.
Not the Brits, the Lebs, Jordanians, Egyptians, Israelis.

The Jorsanians are the Palestinians... King Abdullah I's Hashemite dynasty is a 20th-century interloper propped up and installed by Western powers, particularly the British, who groomed Abdullah and his family for rule.

The Western powers were queuing up to curry favour with the Arabs... Had the Holocaust not occurred, Jews would have had Buckley's of establishing Israel.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16224 Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #242 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:50pm freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 6:59pm: Why do you post so obsessively on a topic when you are afraid of your own opinion on it? Why do you run a political forum? Why make a public fool of yourself like this? Surely you've found easier ways to make a fool of yourself... I'd bet you've been at it all your life.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 54356 Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #243 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:46pm: Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:17pm: Yeah - nobody can work with the Pallos. Not the Brits, the Lebs, Jordanians, Egyptians, Israelis. The Jorsanians are the Palestinians... And they had the West Bank. Not enough. Well, now they are buggered.
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Reply #244 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:53pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

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Israel's right to exist

Its a straw man - Nobody is saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. The argument is that they don't have the right to murder over 60,000 innocent people.

Yes they do. It's an act of self defence and NO DIFFERENT to USA's (and with Russian and global support) retaliation to 9/11.

Eat poo.

You do get that deliberately killing heaps of innocent people not only isn't really allowed but illegal and it makes the problem worse not better. Israel really don't need an additional 60,000 families looking to kill their people over the next 3 generations.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54056 Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #245 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:57pm You do realise they are not innocent people. They were in full support and public display AND interaction with 'their' TERRORISM agenda which HAMAS represented.
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Reply #246 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:00pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

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Israel's right to exist

Its a straw man - Nobody is saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. The argument is that they don't have the right to murder over 60,000 innocent people.

No one is saying Israel has a right to exist. Not the UN, nor any nation-state, nor even Israelis, except when they're humouring non-Jewish peoples.... They're recognising that it does exist.

Granting any state the 'right to exist', despite the lack of any authority capable of bestowing that right, it is a diplomatic road to hell...

If Israel has a right to exist as an independent state, then why not Kurdistan? Or Tibet? Or Xinjiang? Or the Basque territories? or Aotearoa (separate from NZ)? Or Khalistan? Or Aceh? Or... y'know... Palestine?

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Reply #247 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:03pm

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Yeah - nobody can work with the Pallos.
Not the Brits, the Lebs, Jordanians, Egyptians, Israelis.

The Jorsanians are the Palestinians...

And they had the West Bank.

Not enough.

Well, now they are buggered.

The West Bank has always been on the Zionist agenda for incorporation into Israel... There has never been a time when it wasn't...

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Reply #248 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Yeah - nobody can work with the Pallos.
Not the Brits, the Lebs, Jordanians, Egyptians, Israelis.

The Jorsanians are the Palestinians...

And they had the West Bank.

Not enough.

Well, now they are buggered.

The West Bank has always been on the Zionist agenda for incorporation into Israel... There has never been a time when it wasn't...

Well, they never attacked Jordan to get it.
Jordan attacked Israel and lost the WB and Jerusalem.

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Reply #249 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:11pm

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Yeah - nobody can work with the Pallos.
Not the Brits, the Lebs, Jordanians, Egyptians, Israelis.

The Jorsanians are the Palestinians...

And they had the West Bank.

Not enough.

Well, now they are buggered.

The West Bank has always been on the Zionist agenda for incorporation into Israel... There has never been a time when it wasn't...

Well, they never attacked Jordan to get it.
Jordan attacked Israel and lost the WB and Jerusalem.

How about East Jerusalem, illegally annexed by Israel. Are you for Israel, breaking international law?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51729 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #250 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:42pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm: Quote: Israel's right to exist Its a straw man - Nobody is saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16224 Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #251 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:43pm freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:42pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm: Quote: Israel's right to exist Its a straw man - Nobody is saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. So that makes two of you!
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51729 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #252 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:45pm So why are you afraid to have your own opinion Meister?
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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #253 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:52pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:45pm:

So why are you afraid to have your own opinion Meister?

You've got a weird obsession with fear... I don't need an opinion on it. This subject doesn't need any opinion expressed... I'm surprised you have no fear of ridiculing yourself.

That you've expressed an opinion, then used false claims to back it (e.g. 'nearly the whole world supports Israel's right to exist', is that in the 'drink more piss, a million drunks can't be wrong' category?), something you warn against in your own forum advice, indicates that politics and debate aren't your nag.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51729 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #254 - Nov 4^th, 2025 at 8:55pm Quote: I don't need an opinion on it. This subject doesn't need any opinion expressed... So why are you obsessively posting other people's opinion on it, while being too scared to post your own?
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