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Baronvonrort

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Reply #105 - Oct 25^th, 2025 at 11:52pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Two survivors were released after another boat was blown up.

They were rescued by a US Navy helicopter after DL ordered the extrajudicial killings: a Columbian and an Equadorian.

The pilots didn't know what to do with them, so after some toing and froing, the traumatized survivors were dropped off in Bogota and Quito.

Charge them, local officials were told.

What with? The officials asked, incredulous.

Anything, the US Navy demanded, and flew off.

The two men were provided with medical treatment and returned home.

Ecuador has now joined the complaints filed by Colombia and Venezuela to the UN and ICC.

DL admitted his sole reason for giving the order to take out the boat was it's semi-submersible status. "I don't know who else uses submarines other than drug terrorists", the big fella said.

Well, drug smugglers, oil rig technicians, maritime researchers, the list goes on.

The survivors of the attack were cleared of all wrongdoing by their respective officials. They are reported to be recovering from their ordeal.

All civilian subs are required to notify authorities and those capable of rescue where their subs are and when they're going down and to what depth.
The depth they are allowed to dive to is limited by rescue equipment located in that area.

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The Colombian survivor arrived in his homeland "with a traumatic brain injury, sedated, medicated, and breathing with the help of a ventilator", according to Colombia's interior minister.

He is being treated in a hospital in the capital, Bogotá, local media reports.

The minister, Armando Benedetti, said that the man had been on "a vessel full of cocaine, and that in our country is a crime".

Hunter Biden should start looking for new crack dealers

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #106 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 12:49am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 11:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Two survivors were released after another boat was blown up.

They were rescued by a US Navy helicopter after DL ordered the extrajudicial killings: a Columbian and an Equadorian.

The pilots didn't know what to do with them, so after some toing and froing, the traumatized survivors were dropped off in Bogota and Quito.

Charge them, local officials were told.

What with? The officials asked, incredulous.

Anything, the US Navy demanded, and flew off.

The two men were provided with medical treatment and returned home.

Ecuador has now joined the complaints filed by Colombia and Venezuela to the UN and ICC.

DL admitted his sole reason for giving the order to take out the boat was it's semi-submersible status. "I don't know who else uses submarines other than drug terrorists", the big fella said.

Well, drug smugglers, oil rig technicians, maritime researchers, the list goes on.

The survivors of the attack were cleared of all wrongdoing by their respective officials. They are reported to be recovering from their ordeal.

All civilian subs are required to notify authorities and those capable of rescue where their subs are and when they're going down and to what depth.
The depth they are allowed to dive to is limited by rescue equipment located in that area.

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The Colombian survivor arrived in his homeland "with a traumatic brain injury, sedated, medicated, and breathing with the help of a ventilator", according to Colombia's interior minister.

He is being treated in a hospital in the capital, Bogotá, local media reports.

The minister, Armando Benedetti, said that the man had been on "a vessel full of cocaine, and that in our country is a crime".

Hunter Biden should start looking for new crack dealers

Grin

How would the Columbian Interior Minister know that, Baron?

What's the evidence? Where are the charges? Why's his prez accusing DL of murder?

And why does it even matter if he was a drug smuggler? Columbia abandoned the death penalty in 1991. it's constitution says the right to life is inviolable.

Our own legislation says the same. Life, it would seem, is as fundamental to being Australian as it is to being Colombian.

DL, if you recall, praised Philippines President Duterte, for his extra-judicial killings of so-called drug users. Today?

Duterte is currently detained in the Hague - for extra-judicial killings of so-called drug-users.

To date, your DL's given orders to kill 36, and counting. The US is not a signatory to the ICC.

Instead, it's a signatory to the US Constitution. Whatever happens from here on in, your DL will be either impeached and indicted for murder - or he'll cancel the 2028 presidential election to avoid it.

My money's on the latter.

You?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 27868 Gender:	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #107 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 7:35am I wonder how long it will be until a US strike on an innocent boat takes place, killing people with absolutely no connection with drugs? It's bound to happen at some point if these strikes continue, and when it does, it will be interesting to see how Trump responds.
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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #108 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 7:59am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 7:35am:

I wonder how long it will be until a US strike on an innocent boat takes place, killing people with absolutely no connection with drugs? It's bound to happen at some point if these strikes continue, and when it does, it will be interesting to see how Trump responds.

You would have to weight that up against how many lives are saved from not allowing the drugs to get into the country. I don't how know you would balance the force used as compared to the protection required but we do know at the moment regardless of where it originates drugs cause a lot of harm within the community. Do we need to look at different strategies and try to minimize the loss of life or do we continue to follow tried and proven failures.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #109 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:15am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 7:35am:

I wonder how long it will be until a US strike on an innocent boat takes place, killing people with absolutely no connection with drugs? It's bound to happen at some point if these strikes continue, and when it does, it will be interesting to see how Trump responds.

It's already happening.

There's not a single piece of evidence linking these boats to illicit drugs or any other illegal activity.

Nothing whatsoever.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #110 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:17am

Karnal wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 12:49am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 11:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Two survivors were released after another boat was blown up.

They were rescued by a US Navy helicopter after DL ordered the extrajudicial killings: a Columbian and an Equadorian.

The pilots didn't know what to do with them, so after some toing and froing, the traumatized survivors were dropped off in Bogota and Quito.

Charge them, local officials were told.

What with? The officials asked, incredulous.

Anything, the US Navy demanded, and flew off.

The two men were provided with medical treatment and returned home.

Ecuador has now joined the complaints filed by Colombia and Venezuela to the UN and ICC.

DL admitted his sole reason for giving the order to take out the boat was it's semi-submersible status. "I don't know who else uses submarines other than drug terrorists", the big fella said.

Well, drug smugglers, oil rig technicians, maritime researchers, the list goes on.

The survivors of the attack were cleared of all wrongdoing by their respective officials. They are reported to be recovering from their ordeal.

All civilian subs are required to notify authorities and those capable of rescue where their subs are and when they're going down and to what depth.
The depth they are allowed to dive to is limited by rescue equipment located in that area.

From your link-
Quote:

The Colombian survivor arrived in his homeland "with a traumatic brain injury, sedated, medicated, and breathing with the help of a ventilator", according to Colombia's interior minister.

He is being treated in a hospital in the capital, Bogotá, local media reports.

The minister, Armando Benedetti, said that the man had been on "a vessel full of cocaine, and that in our country is a crime".

Hunter Biden should start looking for new crack dealers

Grin

How would the Columbian Interior Minister know that, Baron?

What's the evidence? Where are the charges? Why's his prez accusing DL of murder?

And why does it even matter if he was a drug smuggler? Columbia abandoned the death penalty in 1991. it's constitution says the right to life is inviolable.

Our own legislation says the same. Life, it would seem, is as fundamental to being Australian as it is to being Colombian.

DL, if you recall, praised Philippines President Duterte, for his extra-judicial killings of so-called drug users. Today?

Duterte is currently detained in the Hague - for extra-judicial killings of so-called drug-users.

To date, your DL's given orders to kill 36, and counting. The US is not a signatory to the ICC.

Instead, it's a signatory to the US Constitution. Whatever happens from here on in, your DL will be either impeached and indicted for murder - or he'll cancel the 2028 presidential election to avoid it.

My money's on the latter.

You?

That's where my money is too.

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Karnal

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #111 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 2:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:17am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 12:49am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 11:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 25^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Two survivors were released after another boat was blown up.

They were rescued by a US Navy helicopter after DL ordered the extrajudicial killings: a Columbian and an Equadorian.

The pilots didn't know what to do with them, so after some toing and froing, the traumatized survivors were dropped off in Bogota and Quito.

Charge them, local officials were told.

What with? The officials asked, incredulous.

Anything, the US Navy demanded, and flew off.

The two men were provided with medical treatment and returned home.

Ecuador has now joined the complaints filed by Colombia and Venezuela to the UN and ICC.

DL admitted his sole reason for giving the order to take out the boat was it's semi-submersible status. "I don't know who else uses submarines other than drug terrorists", the big fella said.

Well, drug smugglers, oil rig technicians, maritime researchers, the list goes on.

The survivors of the attack were cleared of all wrongdoing by their respective officials. They are reported to be recovering from their ordeal.

All civilian subs are required to notify authorities and those capable of rescue where their subs are and when they're going down and to what depth.
The depth they are allowed to dive to is limited by rescue equipment located in that area.

From your link-
Quote:

The Colombian survivor arrived in his homeland "with a traumatic brain injury, sedated, medicated, and breathing with the help of a ventilator", according to Colombia's interior minister.

He is being treated in a hospital in the capital, Bogotá, local media reports.

The minister, Armando Benedetti, said that the man had been on "a vessel full of cocaine, and that in our country is a crime".

Hunter Biden should start looking for new crack dealers

Grin

How would the Columbian Interior Minister know that, Baron?

What's the evidence? Where are the charges? Why's his prez accusing DL of murder?

And why does it even matter if he was a drug smuggler? Columbia abandoned the death penalty in 1991. it's constitution says the right to life is inviolable.

Our own legislation says the same. Life, it would seem, is as fundamental to being Australian as it is to being Colombian.

DL, if you recall, praised Philippines President Duterte, for his extra-judicial killings of so-called drug users. Today?

Duterte is currently detained in the Hague - for extra-judicial killings of so-called drug-users.

To date, your DL's given orders to kill 36, and counting. The US is not a signatory to the ICC.

Instead, it's a signatory to the US Constitution. Whatever happens from here on in, your DL will be either impeached and indicted for murder - or he'll cancel the 2028 presidential election to avoid it.

My money's on the latter.

You?

That's where my money is too.

Me too, Greggery. We've got a hundred on it.

We've also bet a grand that, once the Epstein Files are released and DL's child sex crimes are laid bare, Baron sticks his legs in the air and says ooh...

Fuck me!

Anybody care to put a counter-bet down?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #113 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #114 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:02am

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

Aren’t you curious about that? I’m curious. I’m very curious. Are you curious?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #115 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:13am

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

Trump survived 34 episodes of lawfare without a scratch.
In fact leftie lawfare only increases his appeal to the people of real America.

I would have thought the leftie scalds would have realised that by now.

You want to beat Trump, find someone as cocky confident amusing entertaining and engaging as the big fella.

That will be hard for a bunch of Debbie downer , whining, butt hurt lefties to do Wink

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #116 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:23am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:02am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

Aren’t you curious about that? I’m curious. I’m very curious. Are you curious?

I am.

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Celeste Kmiotek, a senior staff lawyer at the Atlantic Council, a Washington-based think tank, said in a report that even outside armed conflict, striking a vessel without imminent threat or judicial process may constitute an arbitrary deprivation of life.

Domestically, lethal targeting abroad requires a clear legal basis under US statutes or the US Constitution, she said, adding that no congressional consent or specific Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) covers anti-drug operations in Venezuela.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/6/can-us-strikes-on-suspected-drug-boats-...

Congress approved specific Authorization for Use of Military Force in the terror-related drone attacks carried out in the Bush, Obama and first Trump administrations.

Each of these administrations can rest on that. Unilaterally taking out foreign fishing boats from non-combatant countries places your DL in clear legal jeopardy - on US territory under its own Constitution.

We'll ignore the ethical dimension here, dear. That seems to have waned somewhat in our current post-truth era.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #117 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:27am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:13am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

Trump survived 34 episodes of lawfare without a scratch.
In fact leftie lawfare only increases his appeal to the people of real America.

I would have thought the leftie scalds would have realised that by now.

You want to beat Trump, find someone as cocky confident amusing entertaining and engaging as the big fella.

That will be hard for a bunch of Debbie downer , whining, butt hurt lefties to do Wink

I'd be happy with a Liz Cheney. If your DL loses the House next year, it's just another charge on his impeachment trial.

And we all recall your words after watching his second impeachment hearing:

Too bloated, obese and unfit to govern. Ron D for 2024.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #118 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:33am

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 7:02am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 5:17am:

Impeached and charged with murder Grin

Do you know how many USA citizens Obama killed with drones?

Sure. 0.

If you were curious though, you'd be asking about the legal advice your DL obtained on killing foreign citizens in international waters, who present no terrorist threat to the US whatsoever.

Then you'd be wondering why he's flushed that advice down the Oval Office loo.

You are curious, no?

Aren’t you curious about that? I’m curious. I’m very curious. Are you curious?

I am.

Quote:

Celeste Kmiotek, a senior staff lawyer at the Atlantic Council, a Washington-based think tank, said in a report that even outside armed conflict, striking a vessel without imminent threat or judicial process may constitute an arbitrary deprivation of life.

Domestically, lethal targeting abroad requires a clear legal basis under US statutes or the US Constitution, she said, adding that no congressional consent or specific Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) covers anti-drug operations in Venezuela.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/6/can-us-strikes-on-suspected-drug-boats-...

Congress approved specific Authorization for Use of Military Force in the terror-related drone attacks carried out in the Bush, Obama and first Trump administrations.

Each of these administrations can rest on that. Unilaterally taking out foreign fishing boats from non-combatant countries places your DL in clear legal jeopardy - on US territory under its own Constitution.

We'll ignore the ethical dimension here, dear. That seems to have waned somewhat in our current post-truth era.

Karnal,

There’s something happening out here, man.
You know something, man? I know something you that you don’t know.
That’s right, Jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad.
Oh, yeah. He’s dying, I think.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #119 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 1:45pm

Trump - the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon - claims that the boats from Venezuela are headed to the US with fentanyl (without a single piece of evidence).

Wrong!

First of all, they don't manufacture fentanyl.

Secondly, if the 43 people in speed boats he's murdered already were carrying drugs (cocaine, not fentanyl), they would have been heading to Trinidad and Tobago, and from there they go to West Africa and Europe - mostly Spain and Portugal.

Trump is, as usual, lying to the American people.

This has nothing to do with drugs, and especially not fentanyl.

It's about overthrowing president Nicolas Maduro and creating a smokescreen to cover up the postponement of the 2028 general election.

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