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Trump is your therapist.
Aug 14^th, 2025 at 5:22am

The excellent Peter crone made a good point.

If your mother in law really triggers you , then you need to analyse why.
Why does it upset you.?
It will probably reflect a child hood trauma or a wounding in your adult life that you have not processed.
Maybe you have trouble with control , or a female teacher scalded you as a little boy.
Perhaps feelings of inadequacy.?

Either way, the " gold" in terms of your growth is to examine anyone who triggers YOU and upsets YOU because that tells YOU where you are not free from psychological issues holding you back.

Why does Trump trigger so many people but others just see him as a bit of a good ball and a stirrer.?

Does the fact he is 80 and they are getting old but he still has power attention and energy, cause them to feel insignificant by comparison.
What work do they need to do to regain mental ✌️ peace.
Some of them seem to be quite obsessed.
Could they start to see him as their therapist, sent to the earth to help them grow.

I thought it was worth studying

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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #1 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41159 Gender:	Re: Trump is your therapist. Reply #2 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:23am I misread your title. Thought it said ' Trump is your the rapist.'
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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #3 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14530 Colorado Gender:	Re: Trump is your therapist. Reply #4 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 7:20am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:23am: I misread your title. Thought it said ' Trump is your the rapist.' Now that was funny.
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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #5 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 7:40am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

What are you, the Thought Police? Are we not allowed to express our opinion anymore, according to you? Do you want to censor everyone so that the only online commentary of Trump is praiseworthy? If so, then go live in North Korea!

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10504 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Trump is your therapist. Reply #6 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 8:30am Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:23am: I misread your title. Thought it said ' Trump is your the rapist.'
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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #7 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 11:23am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 5:22am:

The excellent Peter crone made a good point.

If your mother in law really triggers you , then you need to analyse why.
Why does it upset you.?
It will probably reflect a child hood trauma or a wounding in your adult life that you have not processed.
Maybe you have trouble with control , or a female teacher scalded you as a little boy.
Perhaps feelings of inadequacy.?

Either way, the " gold" in terms of your growth is to examine anyone who triggers YOU and upsets YOU because that tells YOU where you are not free from psychological issues holding you back.

Why does Trump trigger so many people but others just see him as a bit of a good ball and a stirrer.?

Does the fact he is 80 and they are getting old but he still has power attention and energy, cause them to feel insignificant by comparison.
What work do they need to do to regain mental ✌️ peace.
Some of them seem to be quite obsessed.
Could they start to see him as their therapist, sent to the earth to help them grow.

I thought it was worth studying

What a load of bollocks.
Trump triggers people because he is a criminal always has been always will be. Nothing to do with what happened during childhood its simple, reasonable thinking people look back at trumps career and see just how much of a despicable person he is and then wonder why people like horseboy,frank ,leroy and the rest of the cultists see trump doing no wrong.

Its both sad and pathetic that given the amount of information available re trump and Epstein ,that there are those who still support a child rapist. Says more about his supporters than those who see trump for what he is.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147923 Gender:	Re: Trump the rapist. Reply #8 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 11:28am Comparing an adjudicated rapist, who has 34 criminal convictions, to an annoying mother-in-law. Oh dear Therapist? No. Add a space though, and you've nailed it: the_rapist
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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #9 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:39pm

I'm familiar with Peter Crone's work, and yes, there are some useful takeaways from his "mental constructs" ideas.

His central point, and to borrow from Scoot's language, is that if someone "triggers" you emotionally, it's because you have unresolved psychological wounds or insecurities from childhood or adulthood.

Your anger or discomfort, in that view, is a mirror of your own issues, not an indicator of the other person's objective wrongness.

The "gold" in this is supposedly the opportunity to uncover and work through your own baggage.

What Scoot is doing here is trying to link the popular right-wing notion that the left is emotionally triggered by Trump. There is nothing logical about it, it has nothing to do with his behaviour, it's just an emotional weakness.

And he's mixing that with the ideas of Crone, in a textbook attempt to downplay and deflect ALL criticism of Trump.

He's really taking his devotion to Trump to the next level.

He's implying that people don't oppose Trump because of Trump's actions, but because Trump touches on their own fears, like ageing, losing relevance, lacking power, or feeling inadequate.

To me, that sounds like textbook projection from Scoot, but I'm sure he'll try to deny that.

For some, he's just a "goofball and stirrer", so if others are deeply disturbed by him, that must reveal flaws in them.

The idea that Trump is some kind of therapist is nothing more than a sleight of hand to recast lawbreaking, sexual assaults, constant lying, and the damage he's inflicted on people's lives as somehow a positive, a service to those "working through" their reaction to it.

It's pop-psychology framing repurposed as a political shield, designed to make nothing Trump does his fault, and everything the fault of those "triggered" by him.

It's the ultimate abandonment of the noble alpha ideal, the leader who takes responsibility and leads by example, replaced instead with a petty, self-serving inversion where the harm done is reframed as the victim's growth opportunity.

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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #10 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

I dare say most people share their views on Trump, particularly when grounded in reality and supported by evidence, in the hope that those blinded by their devotion to him might begin to question their undying loyalty. It hasn't worked on you yet, but there's always hope.

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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #11 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:51pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

I dare say most people share their views on Trump, particularly when grounded in reality and supported by evidence, in the hope that those blinded by their devotion to him might begin to question their undying loyalty. It hasn't worked on you yet, but there's always hope.

That ship sailed months ago for Aqua and Frank.

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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #12 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 2:05pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

I dare say most people share their views on Trump, particularly when grounded in reality and supported by evidence, in the hope that those blinded by their devotion to him might begin to question their undying loyalty. It hasn't worked on you yet, but there's always hope.

You've really got to stop saying " devotion"
Trump is obese, he has terrible nutrition and he is way to reactive to his enemies.
I wouldn't be devoted to Trump.
Yuk.

I view the Trump phenomenon like the lady di phenomenon or the kardashian phenomenon or Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson.

Why do these people absorb so much of the mental capital of the population?

Fascinating.

As to being triggered myself I am guilty.
When I see people litter out their car I fume.
When I see people tie up working dogs all day or see them running the fence line on a tiny suburban block , I become very triggered.

Crone let me make sense of this.

But Trump has never triggered me and if he dropped dead tomorrow, Vance and Ron would be more capable.

Pecca and karmal discussing his wife's vagina In derogatory terms triggers me.

Even if she was a prostitute , would you talk about a prostitute that way.
I'll have to check with crone

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Re: Trump the rapist.
Reply #13 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 2:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 2:05pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Why is it that when someone responds to, for example, Trump ignoring Court orders to NOT deport a man, that is somehow being "triggered"? Or when we disagree with him pardoning violent, convicted January 6 insurrectionists, we're being "triggered"? The answer is - it's not. It's simply pointing out bad policy by a deplorable President. By the way, I don't feel insignificant compared to Trump. I know I am a far better person than he could ever aspire to be. Your argument boils down to "don't criticise Trump, you have no right".

Not at all.
By all means analyse him and behave differently.
But why the need to express it?
It's doubtful he reads your posts.
So it's a huge opportunity cost.

Why would someone spend hours a day writing about Trump?
What do they get out of it?
Are they terrified of trying a new project or going on a new date and so it's an excuse not to do something which scares them.

What is thinking about Trump doing FOR THEM.
Maybe they could think about someone they find inspiring.
Would karnal be interested in reading Nelson mandalas
Long walk to freedom.
Would this be more helpful ?

I dare say most people share their views on Trump, particularly when grounded in reality and supported by evidence, in the hope that those blinded by their devotion to him might begin to question their undying loyalty. It hasn't worked on you yet, but there's always hope.

You've really got to stop saying " devotion"
Trump is obese, he has terrible nutrition and he is way to reactive to his enemies.
I wouldn't be devoted to Trump.
Yuk.

I view the Trump phenomenon like the lady di phenomenon or the kardashian phenomenon or Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson.

Why do these people absorb so much of the mental capital of the population?

Fascinating.

As to being triggered myself I am guilty.
When I see people litter out their car I fume.
When I see people tie up working dogs all day or see them running the fence line on a tiny suburban block , I become very triggered.

Crone let me make sense of this.

But Trump has never triggered me and if he dropped dead tomorrow, Vance and Ron would be more capable.

Pecca and karmal discussing his wife's vagina In derogatory terms triggers me.

Even if she was a prostitute , would you talk about a prostitute that way.
I'll have to check with crone

Technically, still is.

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Re: Trump is your therapist.
Reply #14 - Aug 14^th, 2025 at 2:44pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 2:05pm:

You've really got to stop saying " devotion"
Trump is obese, he has terrible nutrition and he is way to reactive to his enemies.
I wouldn't be devoted to Trump.
Yuk.

The only distinction between you and the garden-variety Trump devotee is that you insist on shoehorning your loyalty into whatever pop-psychology, self-help drivel you've just cobbled together.

The end result is indistinguishable.

You refuse to hold him to account for anything, you leap to his defence at every turn, and even extend that protection to his close-knit circle of paedophile associates, attempting to gaslight the world into believing Jeffrey Epstein was merely some benign "party planner" for the wealthy, all in service of insulating Trump from criticism.

If jettisoning every principle you once proclaimed here, from your pseudo-alpha posturing to your quaint pronouncements on the "proper place" of women, just to prop up Trump under the flimsy pretext of "study" isn't an act of sheer ideological surrender, what else could it possibly be?

In deed, if not in confession, you are devoted to him. You just lack the courage to admit it.

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I view the Trump phenomenon like the lady di phenomenon or the kardashian phenomenon or Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson.

Why do these people absorb so much of the mental capital of the population?

Fascinating.

As to being triggered myself I am guilty.
When I see people litter out their car I fume.
When I see people tie up working dogs all day or see them running the fence line on a tiny suburban block , I become very triggered.

Crone let me make sense of this.

But Trump has never triggered me and if he dropped dead tomorrow, Vance and Ron would be more capable.

That's because crime, sexual assault, and child abuse clearly don't trouble you, provided it's Trump committing them.

That's devotion.

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Pecca and karmal discussing his wife's vagina In derogatory terms triggers me.

Even if she was a prostitute , would you talk about a prostitute that way.
I'll have to check with crone

It's remarkable that you find certain words used about Trump's current wife unconscionable, yet feel compelled to defend the abuse Trump and his inner circle have inflicted on other women and children.

Again, that's devotion.

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