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Reply #15 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 1:04pm

whiteknight wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 10:04am:

Well said Bobby and how right you are. Where do we draw the line?. With so many other things needing to be done. Australia is in a housing crisis, people are sleeping under bridges and in their cars. Far too few social housing homes have been built. This is not just labor but also the coalition that should answer for this. It is not good enough. Sad

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Reply #16 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 1:06pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 10:19am:

our economy is too small.

14th largest economy in the world with a GDP of $1.7trillion , slightly below russia with a gdp of $2 trillion

.. but Russia's flows to the arms races and fights - ours flows to the fat cats to wallow in ... and what good is a NATIONAL GDP when 90% of it is Offshored and Tax Havened?

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Reply #17 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Now all they need to do is find the sailors...

These ships require half the crew compared to our older ships.

Also I read somewhere that ADF recruitment has started to increase due to better communication on social media.

I think it’s reasonable to suggest I can on occasions be mildly critical of our politicians and government 🤣

But also if I believe they are thankfully starting to get things right I will be proud to say that they are finally doing their jobs adequately.

I suggest this is more a case of politicians actually listening to the Navy and what they need and want rather then the billion dollar disaster Scomo and the submarines we pay for but will never receive political games he played.

Isn’t Scomo now working with a company linked to the shite submarine deal?

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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2677 Gender:	Re: Australia To But Advanced Warships From Japan Reply #18 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 2:47pm And how you travelling old fella 😀 It’s all good up here in Queensland. But it be much better if they got rid off the Queenslanders! Bit like New Zealand, a country of immense beauty I would move to but it’s full of New Zealanders. Such a shame
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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2677 Gender:	Re: Australia To But Advanced Warships From Japan Reply #19 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 2:51pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4nUa_qp09g Richard Miles as defensive Minister seems to be doing something right! His not only playing with billions of dollars but also the protection of our country. I’m impressed he might be actually doing his job! You rarely get that in labor or lnp ministers.
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Reply #20 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 3:01pm

Well about time we bought from Nihon. We should have got the Subs from them in the first place for want of getting off our lazy arses ourselves and build our own.
Obviously the ADF didn't agree with Turnbull's INNOVATION push to make Australia great again.
Germany is busy in a backlog of orders for Ukraine and NATO, so Nihon is the better bet.

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Reply #21 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 3:02pm

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 2:51pm:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4nUa_qp09g

Richard Miles as defensive Minister seems to be doing something right!

His not only playing with billions of dollars but also the protection of our country.

I’m impressed he might be actually doing his job!

You rarely get that in labor or lnp ministers.

Nonsense.

the Soviet Union was brought down
by trying to compete with the USA in the military arms race -
how we are doing the same trying to out compete China
when our GDP is much smaller.

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Reply #22 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 4:48pm

Oh come on .

This is nothing to do with a arms race but just standard equipment replacement that I believe has been done well (compared to Scomo sub failure, but he scored a well paying job out it)

I would prefer for them to be locally made but we no longer have the skills or resources needed in this country.

Apparently our coffee is nearly world class 🥲

Priority

P.s it’s only a matter of time before everyone involved in the deal amazing gets jobs with the company they approve the deal with.

Such is life in convict Australia

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BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

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Reply #23 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:44pm

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 4:48pm:

Oh come on .

This is nothing to do with a arms race but just standard equipment replacement that I believe has been done well (compared to Scomo sub failure, but he scored a well paying job out it)

I would prefer for them to be locally made but we no longer have the skills or resources needed in this country.

Apparently our coffee is nearly world class 🥲

Priority

P.s it’s only a matter of time before everyone involved in the deal amazing gets jobs with the company they approve the deal with.

Such is life in convict Australia

And all paid for by printing money from the RBA to pay for Govt bonds. Roll Eyes

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54100 Gender:	Re: Australia To But Advanced Warships From Japan Reply #24 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 6:27pm If Turnbull didn't turn back on Abbott's push for Nihonese subs. We could have had em all by now, let alone having the trained know how to build our own.
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Reply #25 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 8:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 4:48pm:

Oh come on .

This is nothing to do with a arms race but just standard equipment replacement that I believe has been done well (compared to Scomo sub failure, but he scored a well paying job out it)

I would prefer for them to be locally made but we no longer have the skills or resources needed in this country.

Apparently our coffee is nearly world class 🥲

Priority

P.s it’s only a matter of time before everyone involved in the deal amazing gets jobs with the company they approve the deal with.

Such is life in convict Australia

And all paid for by printing money from the RBA to pay for Govt bonds. Roll Eyes

And where exactly do you think the new Tasmania football stadium and the billions being spent on the Brisbane Olympic Games infrastructure is going to be paid for?

Our Navy not only deserves this but desperately needs it.

I remain convinced the Albo government has actually listened to the Navy and signed off on the very best possible solution to replace our aging fleet.

Until proven wrong of course 🤣

We are never going to see Scomo subs no matter how many billions we pay.

Plus they are an offensive weapon only.

A modern and innovative new technology warship is exactly what Australia needs.
We can both defend our borders and if needed to ( hopefully not) project a powerful force in support of allies overseas.

This ship seems very versatile for numerous roles we require now and into the future.

I’m very rarely in support of our shite politicians and even rare if they are labor but this too my thinking is finally a smart decision for the ADF.

I don’t believe we are in a “arms race “ this is just standard procurement and finally i think the politicians listen to navy and unbelievable they got it right!

I’m buying a lottery ticket asap.

Scomo played politics and sunk our defence budget by billions.

I believe this is good money spent.

Aside it enhances our alliance with Japan
And much more importantly it gives our Navy much needed new ships, hopefully of the highest quality and technology.

Our sailors deserve nothing less!

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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

Ffs

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Re: Australia To But Advanced Warships From Japan
Reply #27 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 9:24pm

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 8:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 4:48pm:

Oh come on .

This is nothing to do with a arms race but just standard equipment replacement that I believe has been done well (compared to Scomo sub failure, but he scored a well paying job out it)

I would prefer for them to be locally made but we no longer have the skills or resources needed in this country.

Apparently our coffee is nearly world class 🥲

Priority

P.s it’s only a matter of time before everyone involved in the deal amazing gets jobs with the company they approve the deal with.

Such is life in convict Australia

And all paid for by printing money from the RBA to pay for Govt bonds. Roll Eyes

And where exactly do you think the new Tasmania football stadium and the billions being spent on the Brisbane Olympic Games infrastructure is going to be paid for?

Our Navy not only deserves this but desperately needs it.

I remain convinced the Albo government has actually listened to the Navy and signed off on the very best possible solution to replace our aging fleet.

Until proven wrong of course 🤣

We are never going to see Scomo subs no matter how many billions we pay.

Plus they are an offensive weapon only.

A modern and innovative new technology warship is exactly what Australia needs.
We can both defend our borders and if needed to ( hopefully not) project a powerful force in support of allies overseas.

This ship seems very versatile for numerous roles we require now and into the future.

I’m very rarely in support of our shite politicians and even rare if they are labor but this too my thinking is finally a smart decision for the ADF.

I don’t believe we are in a “arms race “ this is just standard procurement and finally i think the politicians listen to navy and unbelievable they got it right!

I’m buying a lottery ticket asap.

Scomo played politics and sunk our defence budget by billions.

I believe this is good money spent.

Aside it enhances our alliance with Japan
And much more importantly it gives our Navy much needed new ships, hopefully of the highest quality and technology.

Our sailors deserve nothing less!

Hold it, bruvvas! The Brisbane Olympic Games site has been declared a sacred site after countless decades and centuries of lying fallow and totally unrecognised as such ...... the bruvvas and sistahs just came up with a song-line for the pizzle-headed bumble bee or something.... so now you can just sit back and let the 'courts' rob you all again to suit some absurd BS...

Anyone for splitting Queensland up into a dozen or so states including a Homeland for all recalcitrant Abos and the like? Let the Rump Hole of Brisdrain bear the full cost of their self-created nonsense.

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Re: Australia To But Advanced Warships From Japan
Reply #28 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 9:36pm

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Now all they need to do is find the sailors...

These ships require half the crew compared to our older ships.

Also I read somewhere that ADF recruitment has started to increase due to better communication on social media.

I think it’s reasonable to suggest I can on occasions be mildly critical of our politicians and government 🤣

But also if I believe they are thankfully starting to get things right I will be proud to say that they are finally doing their jobs adequately.

I suggest this is more a case of politicians actually listening to the Navy and what they need and want rather then the billion dollar disaster Scomo and the submarines we pay for but will never receive political games he played.

Isn’t Scomo now working with a company linked to the shite submarine deal?

You have made some good points, however there is much you have missed. The Mogami class are an excellent choice, however the small ships company of only 90 is not enough to cover all the operational requirements in a ship this size. I would like to see the designers reasoning behind this.
The AUKUS deal is a win for Australia. We need SSNs for strategic and tactical reasons and until we can develop the technical base to produce our own we need the US and UK, no matter what issues they have themselves at the moment. We also need SSKs to fill an immediate need and to compliment the SSNs once they become available.

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Question: Finally a fantastic decision for the RAN
Scomo should pay for the sub debacle 1 (8.3%) After Scomo wasted billions. Don’t vote lnp 1 (8.3%) Scomo needs to face a royal commission 0 (0.0%) Labor supported the failed sub deal! 2 (16.7%) We have better wine and cheese than the French 2 (16.7%) I’m just happy our Navy has a future 3 (25.0%) I fish and I vote 0 (0.0%) China should have put in a offer? 3 (25.0%) Total votes: 12 « Created by: Daves2017 on: Aug 6^th, 2025 at 9:19pm »