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Reply #30 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:35pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 12:33pm:
He confirmed malenia did have a lot of first hand knowledge of child sex trafficking.
And she was repulsed by it.
And she was repulsed by Epstein and she is the reason , Trump cut ties in 2012.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/569/cpsprodpb/3760/live/19eacef0-6477-11f0...

Trump cut ties with Epstein because he poached his staff.

In particular, the children he had working in the Mar-a-Lago spa.


No good?




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Reply #31 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:00pm
 
The old boy's right, Greggery. What's wrong with hiring a few Lolitas to hang around the pool looking cute?

They must have enjoyed doing it, or they wouldn't keep turning up to work. They made some valuable connections too, truth be told. The big fella just didn't like anybody else stealing them.

He made sure they all signed non disclosure agreements too, as you do.
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Reply #32 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 5:34pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 5:09pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 5:07pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:30pm:
Epstein died in 2019. Maxwell was tried and found guilty in 2021, sentenced in 2022.  Maxwell's trial covered the period after 2015. Epstein was first publicly accused in 2007.  Trump banned Epstein from his circle about two years earlier.

If Trump had been implicated the Biden admininstration would have released the details. Nothing could have prevented them from doing so. Except that there wasn't anything to imlicate Trump. After all, they impeached him twice and threw endless and various criminal charges at him? Why not sink him with Epstein and Maxwel when they had the power?


Would you have believed Biden if he did?

I wouldn't take Biden's word for it, not are we talking about anything like that, silly little teapot.

We are talking about evidence in criminal trials.

Pull your finger outs gweggy creep's arse and focus.


That's the perfect answer and it confirms exactly why the Epstein files need to be released.

Glad you're finally on side.



So why didn't they release any Trump -implicating details while Trump's political opponents were in power?? They hounded him with all sorts of criminal charges, and impeached him twice.
Why didn't they stitch him up over Epstein?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa gweggy creep's arse.



I could only speculate.

I wonder, though, why it matters?  Is it not the right thing to do, release the files, no matter who did or didn't release them before you?

If I had to speculate, I know that the justice system controlled access to sealed documents, not the White House. Many of the files were court‑sealed and only became public after legal processes concluded in early 2024.  That would have been right in the middle of the election cycle.

Now I know from a MAGA and Republican point of view, weaponising that would not have required a second thought.  But given we've seen the Democrats, much to their own detriment, act with a certain level of decorum and "following the rules", both tradition and legal, perhaps they decided that releasing the file during the campaign would do more harm than good to the victims?

I know you would immediately dismiss whatever was in the files if they were released under Biden.  Perhaps people like you were a consideration in the decision also?

Hell, you still to this day claim Trump's felony convictions were political.  And if they had released the files and Trump one, he would have escaped justice just like he did for those convictions.

So what changed?  Why the desire for the release of the files now?

Trump campaigned on releasing them, his team said they had them and were reviewing them for release, there were photo ops with right wing influences holding binders of the phase one of the files for release and many people within Trump's circles said they'd be released and vindicate everything they'd been saying about the Democrats and Elites "on the list".

All of that happened entirely without any Democrats, that was all Trump or his people and their supporters.

Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.

After everything he said he would do around them and all the conspiracies about his enemies in the files and the vindication his base were certain they'd get with the release, everyone but the most loyal and braindead of his supporters want the files released and those with evidence of abusing children within brought to justice, left, right or President.

It's only those braindead Trump supporters, much like yourself, who have chosen to align themselves with these predators, all because they cannot admit they may have been wrong in supporting those predators all this time.

So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.
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Reply #34 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:28am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:35pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 12:33pm:
He confirmed malenia did have a lot of first hand knowledge of child sex trafficking.
And she was repulsed by it.
And she was repulsed by Epstein and she is the reason , Trump cut ties in 2012.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/569/cpsprodpb/3760/live/19eacef0-6477-11f0...

Trump cut ties with Epstein because he poached his staff.

In particular, the children he had working in the Mar-a-Lago spa.


No good?


Children massaging fat old men in a spa?

Nah, no good.

No good at all.

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Reply #35 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am
 
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Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.
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Reply #36 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:39am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
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Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



"... the justice system controlled access to sealed documents, not the White House. Many of the files were court‑sealed and only became public after legal processes concluded in early 2024."
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Reply #37 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
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Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.
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Reply #38 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:48am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
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Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



"... the justice system controlled access to sealed documents, not the White House. Many of the files were court‑sealed and only became public after legal processes concluded in early 2024."

No longer?
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Reply #39 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:57am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
Quote:
Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.

I think Biden didnt release the files for the same reason Trump isn't,

Either because they are sealed to protect victims
And/Or because thee are far more sinister and complex issues that any US administration would want to keep out of the public domain. "Mossad" might be a shorthand for that but where there is Mossad there is CIA, FBI, ASIO, Iran, Russia, etc, etc.

Kiddie fiddling by the rich and famous is terrible but it doesn't have any national security or international powerplay aspects.

Far more under-age girls were gromed and raped by pakis in Britain over two decades but the Muslim angle makes it politically explosive even though no rich and famous are involved. It has been fudged and covered up for political reasons by both sides of British politics.

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Reply #40 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:05pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
Quote:
Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.

I think Biden didnt release the files for the same reason Trump isn't,

Either because they are sealed to protect victims
And/Or because thee are far more sinister and complex issues that any US administration would want to keep out of the public domain. "Mossad" might be a shorthand for that but where there is Mossad there is CIA, FBI, ASIO, Iran, Russia, etc, etc.

Kiddie fiddling by the rich and famous is terrible but it doesn't have any national security or international powerplay aspects.

Far more under-age girls were gromed and raped by pakis in Britain over two decades but the Muslim angle makes it politically explosive even though no rich and famous are involved. It has been fudged and covered up for political reasons by both sides of British politics.



So just to clarify, are you suggesting that Trump's potential involvement in the Epstein child trafficking network shouldn't be scrutinised or disclosed because there are other examples of systemic abuse elsewhere?

You brought up an unrelated situation in the UK, seemingly to minimise or distract from what we're discussing, allegations of elite-level child abuse in the United States, potentially involving the president.

Your comment raises a serious concern: are you trying to deflect from Trump's accountability by shifting the focus to a different ethnic group in a different country?

If you genuinely believe these crimes are heinous, then surely you'd want full transparency and justice in all cases, regardless of the political or diplomatic fallout. Otherwise, it starts to look like you're not actually interested in protecting children, but in protecting political idols.

Protecting paedophiles.

I see why you've been so reluctant to answer questions now...  Wow.
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Reply #41 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:47pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:05pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
Quote:
Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.

I think Biden didnt release the files for the same reason Trump isn't,

Either because they are sealed to protect victims
And/Or because thee are far more sinister and complex issues that any US administration would want to keep out of the public domain. "Mossad" might be a shorthand for that but where there is Mossad there is CIA, FBI, ASIO, Iran, Russia, etc, etc.

Kiddie fiddling by the rich and famous is terrible but it doesn't have any national security or international powerplay aspects.

Far more under-age girls were gromed and raped by pakis in Britain over two decades but the Muslim angle makes it politically explosive even though no rich and famous are involved. It has been fudged and covered up for political reasons by both sides of British politics.



So just to clarify, are you suggesting that Trump's potential involvement in the Epstein child trafficking network shouldn't be scrutinised or disclosed because there are other examples of systemic abuse elsewhere?

You brought up an unrelated situation in the UK, seemingly to minimise or distract from what we're discussing, allegations of elite-level child abuse in the United States, potentially involving the president.

Your comment raises a serious concern: are you trying to deflect from Trump's accountability by shifting the focus to a different ethnic group in a different country?

If you genuinely believe these crimes are heinous, then surely you'd want full transparency and justice in all cases, regardless of the political or diplomatic fallout. Otherwise, it starts to look like you're not actually interested in protecting children, but in protecting political idols.

Protecting paedophiles.

I see why you've been so reluctant to answer questions now...  Wow.

I don't think for a moment that Trump is a pedophile or that there is anything in those files to incriminate him.
He said he's never been to the island  - the point of that island is that it is OUTSIDE US jurisdiction.  Being a passenger on a private plane within the US doesn't signify anything.

I don't know why this administration is not releasing the files. I guess it is the same reason the previous admin didn't - which cannot be that they wanted to protect Trump, so that cannot be the reason now either.

If there is dirt on Trump the previous administration would have aired it. There wouldn't be a second Trump presidency because they would have used anything incriminating in those docs.

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Reply #42 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:53pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:47pm:
I don't know why this administration is not releasing the files. I guess it is the same reason the previous admin didn't -


The previous administration didn't spend 4 years saying they would release the files. Cheesy
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Reply #43 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 2:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:47pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:05pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
Quote:
Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.

I think Biden didnt release the files for the same reason Trump isn't,

Either because they are sealed to protect victims
And/Or because thee are far more sinister and complex issues that any US administration would want to keep out of the public domain. "Mossad" might be a shorthand for that but where there is Mossad there is CIA, FBI, ASIO, Iran, Russia, etc, etc.

Kiddie fiddling by the rich and famous is terrible but it doesn't have any national security or international powerplay aspects.

Far more under-age girls were gromed and raped by pakis in Britain over two decades but the Muslim angle makes it politically explosive even though no rich and famous are involved. It has been fudged and covered up for political reasons by both sides of British politics.



So just to clarify, are you suggesting that Trump's potential involvement in the Epstein child trafficking network shouldn't be scrutinised or disclosed because there are other examples of systemic abuse elsewhere?

You brought up an unrelated situation in the UK, seemingly to minimise or distract from what we're discussing, allegations of elite-level child abuse in the United States, potentially involving the president.

Your comment raises a serious concern: are you trying to deflect from Trump's accountability by shifting the focus to a different ethnic group in a different country?

If you genuinely believe these crimes are heinous, then surely you'd want full transparency and justice in all cases, regardless of the political or diplomatic fallout. Otherwise, it starts to look like you're not actually interested in protecting children, but in protecting political idols.

Protecting paedophiles.

I see why you've been so reluctant to answer questions now...  Wow.

I don't think for a moment that Trump is a pedophile ...



Grooming 10-year-olds and watching 14-year-olds get undressed seems normal to you?
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Reply #44 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 2:12pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 2:00pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:47pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 1:05pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:37am:
Quote:
Now that it's clear that Trump is trying to supress the release of the files after their review, the only plausible reason is he's all over them, cover to cover.


If he is all over the, why did the Dems bother with impeachments, retrospective changes to New York law to enable a civil defamation trial, managing a loan issue into criminal charges.
Why not simply reveal the Trump content of the Epstein docs if they ars as damning as you imagine?? 4 years too short?


Ockham's razor.



Either these files are banal or far more complex and sinister.


Frank, where's the good faith discussion?

I answered your question and I even highlighted mine in return.

Please do the right thing and answer it before asking any further questions.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm:
So, do you think what Biden did or didn't do with the files should have any impact on Trump releasing them, and if so, why?

Please give a credible answer, not something you are pulling outa Scoot's arse.


Thanks.

And besides, the answer to your question is in the post you cherry-picked from.

I think Biden didnt release the files for the same reason Trump isn't,

Either because they are sealed to protect victims
And/Or because thee are far more sinister and complex issues that any US administration would want to keep out of the public domain. "Mossad" might be a shorthand for that but where there is Mossad there is CIA, FBI, ASIO, Iran, Russia, etc, etc.

Kiddie fiddling by the rich and famous is terrible but it doesn't have any national security or international powerplay aspects.

Far more under-age girls were gromed and raped by pakis in Britain over two decades but the Muslim angle makes it politically explosive even though no rich and famous are involved. It has been fudged and covered up for political reasons by both sides of British politics.



So just to clarify, are you suggesting that Trump's potential involvement in the Epstein child trafficking network shouldn't be scrutinised or disclosed because there are other examples of systemic abuse elsewhere?

You brought up an unrelated situation in the UK, seemingly to minimise or distract from what we're discussing, allegations of elite-level child abuse in the United States, potentially involving the president.

Your comment raises a serious concern: are you trying to deflect from Trump's accountability by shifting the focus to a different ethnic group in a different country?

If you genuinely believe these crimes are heinous, then surely you'd want full transparency and justice in all cases, regardless of the political or diplomatic fallout. Otherwise, it starts to look like you're not actually interested in protecting children, but in protecting political idols.

Protecting paedophiles.

I see why you've been so reluctant to answer questions now...  Wow.

I don't think for a moment that Trump is a pedophile ...



Grooming 10-year-olds and watching 14-year-olds get undressed seems normal to you?




Keep your creepy fantasies to yourself creeper
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