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Tolerance - What Is It Good For?
Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:00am
 
What does it even mean?

More of a weasel word than anything deep and meaningful.

People learn to tolerate traffic in the morning.

They learn to tolerate missing the green light.

They learn to tolerate McDonald's coffee in the absence of anything better at 6:00 AM.

Start using it to refer to tolerating foreign ethnicity in the community, or physical/ psychological disability in the workplace.. or ugliness, and it cheapens the effort to tolerating crows faaarking at the crack of dawn.

Is forebearance a better word?

Does it have enough high-falutin' je-ne-sais-quoi for the act of accepting foreign ethnicity, disability and ugliness in our midst?
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 10:48am
 
Someone texted me the other day that they walked into an organisation, to be greeted at the door by a transgender who directed him to the service desk managed by a dwarf.

'Times sure have changed, ' he added, 'there was a time when one of them would be standing outside a porn shop and the other would be chasing clowns at a circus.'

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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:00am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 10:48am:
Someone texted me the other day that they walked into an organisation, to be greeted at the door by a transgender who directed him to the service desk managed by a dwarf.

'Times sure have changed, ' he added, 'there was a time when one of them would be standing outside a porn shop and the other would be chasing clowns at a circus.'



Grin How droll
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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:01am
 


"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance.
If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
- Karl Popper


"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
- Thomas Mann


"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
- Charles J. Chaput


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Being tolerant of what the ungodly tolerate,
is not a Christian virtue.



James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
...
8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.


1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.


Amos 5:4
For thus saith the LORD unto the house of Israel,
Seek ye me, and ye shall live:



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:06am
 


KJV
Isaiah 26:10
Let favour be shewed to the wicked,
yet will he not learn righteousness:
in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly,
and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:11am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 10:48am:
Someone texted me the other day that they walked into an organisation, to be greeted at the door by a transgender who directed him to the service desk managed by a dwarf.

'Times sure have changed, ' he added, 'there was a time when one of them would be standing outside a porn shop and the other would be chasing clowns at a circus.'



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Yep... never seen a dwarf at a porn shop... might have been a Queensland thing.
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Reply #6 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:30am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:11am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 10:48am:
Someone texted me the other day that they walked into an organisation, to be greeted at the door by a transgender who directed him to the service desk managed by a dwarf.

'Times sure have changed, ' he added, 'there was a time when one of them would be standing outside a porn shop and the other would be chasing clowns at a circus.'



Grin How droll

Yep... never seen a dwarf at a porn shop... might have been a Queensland thing.


Nah ... NSW or Vic maybe.
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Reply #7 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 4:33pm
 
Tolerance is good to increase ones life experiences.

Intolerant people will accept nothing new.
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Reply #8 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:15pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:30am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:11am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 10:48am:
Someone texted me the other day that they walked into an organisation, to be greeted at the door by a transgender who directed him to the service desk managed by a dwarf.

'Times sure have changed, ' he added, 'there was a time when one of them would be standing outside a porn shop and the other would be chasing clowns at a circus.'



Grin How droll

Yep... never seen a dwarf at a porn shop... might have been a Queensland thing.


Nah ... NSW or Vic maybe.

Definitely NSW. His nickname was Yoda.
...oops
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #9 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:56pm
 
Interesting topic.
I think more in terms of " boundaries"
And I think of myself as an entity
Entities like a house or an awesome party or a business.

Then what should you " tolerate"?


If you were an awesome party would you allow in " complainers and scalds and sooks "
No
So they have to be ruthlessly eliminated from your reality.

If you were a house would you allow termites and rodents in.
Would you neglect maintenance ?
No.
So you don't let in drugs or alcohol to ruin your brain
You don't allow in big mac's and coca cola to weaken the structure.
You do good maintenance by hitting the gym, staying fit, working on your skills.

If you see yourself as a business would you allow bludging, watching Netflix when there is work to be done.
No
So you don't tolerate this in your colleagues and especially in yourself  Smiley

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Reply #10 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:11pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:56pm:
So you don't tolerate this in your colleagues and especially in yourself

What does tolerance, or maybe a better word, forbearance, mean for you?
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Reply #11 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:14pm
 
A schoolgirl was forcibly removed, told to remover her attire, sent home and suspended from the School's DIVERSITY (fashion) day in Great Britain.
Students wore burkhas and other national and cultural attires.

But can you guess what the suspended girl wore to school?

It was a Union Jack dress (& a bit more conservative than Ginger Spice's).

That's right. She was removed and punished for wearing her nations Union Jack.

Now if Woke Leftism isn't pure evil in its bigotry, self loathing, hypocrisy and selective Racism. I don't know what is.
They are evil, because they feel guilty and evil. They hang their heads in shame and expect everyone else should do the same.

It has come to this. The enemy is at the gates and the enemy within us, is opening the gates for them.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:15pm
 
The term itself is wrong when applied to humanity's diversity.

It's too tied to things and events, like traffic, or crows in the morning... and to its opposite - intolerance, such that it allows a paradox - intolerant of intolerance.

I think maybe have tolerance for things and events... have forbearance for human diversity.
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Reply #13 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:17pm
 
Tolerance has limits, like everything. I see no need to tolerate the intolerant who would tell me I cannot express an opinion, read a certain book or criticise anything I disagree with.
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Reply #14 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:19pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
That's right. She was removed and punished for wearing her nations Union Jack.

Poms and their endless overt grovelling apology for their empire... behind closed doors, they mourn its loss.

Behind the closed door of No. 10, they do whatever they can to reimpose it in the way the Greeks did within the Roman Empire.
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