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Jul 12^th, 2025 at 12:15pm

Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly unsealed documents?

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on the newly unsealed documents?

The documents have unearthed sexual assault allegations against Prince Andrew. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are also mentioned.
About 950 pages of court documents identifying associates of financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were made public on Wednesday.
What is the Jeffrey Epstein list?

Included in the unsealed papers are the names of about 150 Epstein associates. The documents were filed as part of Virginia Giuffre’s 2015 defamation lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s co-conspirator in his sexual abuse scheme. Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2022. Epstein died by suicide in 2019 while awaiting sex trafficking charges.
Giuffre is one of the women who sued Epstein for abusing them at his homes in Florida, New York, the United States Virgin Islands and New Mexico. She said she was pressured into having sex with men in Epstein’s social orbit.

Other documents were unsealed by the court from 2019 to 2022.

Last month, a judge listed in a 50-page document about 180 people – under pseudonyms – ordering that their identities be made public within 14 days of the order. Some individuals have objected to the disclosure of their identities in the case.

The inclusion of a name on the list does not indicate there are any allegations against the individual.
Prince Andrew

The documents unsealed on Wednesday have revealed sexual assault allegations against the British royal.

Johanna Sjoberg, who is one of the many women who have accused Epstein of sexual abuse, said Andrew put his hand on her breast in Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse in 2001.

This was while he was taking a photo with Sjoberg and Giuffre. Maxwell and Epstein were present while this photo was taken. Sjoberg said the photo also included a puppet that said “Prince Andrew” on it.

The incident, which has been previously reported by other media outlets and which Andrew has denied, was in an initial trove of previously redacted documents that otherwise revealed few new details about the extent of Epstein’s alleged sex trafficking activities.

Sjoberg was recruited to work for Epstein by Maxwell, who had been his girlfriend in the early 1990s before they became professional collaborators and accomplices in sex crimes for almost three decades.

While Sjoberg was hired as an assistant when she was a 20-year-old college student, she was quickly turned into a massage therapist and was sexually coerced while she worked for Maxwell and Epstein from 2001 to 2006.

Giuffre, now 38, accused Andrew of sexually abusing her two decades ago when she was 17, an allegation the prince called baseless. The case was settled in 2022.

According to the documents, Sjoberg said she witnessed Giuffre, then 17, in Epstein’s New York mansion with Andrew, Epstein and Maxwell. She also said she believes what Giuffre has said about Andrew and Epstein sexually abusing her.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:55pm

Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein is not enough to charge you with a sex crime. He could have put anyone on that list.

You need additional physical evidence or sworn testimony from credible witnesses. Witnesses had their chance to name perps during the Maxwell trial but did not and the government did not seek those names. Zero surveillance video was offered as evidence during that trial.

The DOJ cannot just release names and ruin lives without sufficient evidence to indict. That would be defamation and denial of due process.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 111599 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:08pm Quote: Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein is not enough to charge you with a sex crime. That's true - the vast majority of trips to Epstein's island were for family vacations: husband, wife and kids. Unless there is video evidence, it's all gossip mongering.
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Reply #3 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

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Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein
is not enough to charge you with a sex crime.

That's true - the vast majority of trips to Epstein's island
were for family vacations:

husband, wife and kids.

Unless there is video evidence, it's all gossip mongering.

What does it matter that many or most trips were family vacations?

It's like saying a psycho killer wasn't that bad because he didn't murder most people he met.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

How many other senior politicians, billionaires and prominent people are listed on airline passenger manifests?

It's more than gossip if one of them is even listed in a manifest. It places them on the island.

If it's true that they were there, there's no law preventing that information from being made public. What it means after that is a matter for further evidence... but, like the Hotel California, once you're on the island, your reputation can never leave.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #4 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein ...

There's no list.

The US Department of Justice and FBI have concluded that sex offender Jeffrey Epstein did not have a so-called client list that could implicate high-profile associates.

According to a two-page Department of Justice (DoJ) and FBI memo, investigators found no "incriminating list" of clients and "no credible evidence" that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals.

Surely you're not suggesting that these two Trump sycophants are lying:

What possible reason would they have to lie? Undecided

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #5 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:53pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

Quote:

Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein
is not enough to charge you with a sex crime.

That's true - the vast majority of trips to Epstein's island
were for family vacations:

husband, wife and kids.

Unless there is video evidence, it's all gossip mongering.

What does it matter that many or most trips were family vacations?

It's like saying a psycho killer wasn't that bad because he didn't murder most people he met.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

How many other senior politicians, billionaires and prominent people are listed on airline passenger manifests?

It's more than gossip if one of them is even listed in a manifest. It places them on the island.

If it's true that they were there, there's no law preventing that information from being made public. What it means after that is a matter for further evidence... but, like the Hotel California, once you're on the island, your reputation can never leave.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

Because the public has been conditioned to believe that just because
someone was on the flight list they must be a pedophile.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #6 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

Quote:

Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein
is not enough to charge you with a sex crime.

That's true - the vast majority of trips to Epstein's island
were for family vacations:

husband, wife and kids.

Unless there is video evidence, it's all gossip mongering.

What does it matter that many or most trips were family vacations?

It's like saying a psycho killer wasn't that bad because he didn't murder most people he met.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

How many other senior politicians, billionaires and prominent people are listed on airline passenger manifests?

It's more than gossip if one of them is even listed in a manifest. It places them on the island.

If it's true that they were there, there's no law preventing that information from being made public. What it means after that is a matter for further evidence... but, like the Hotel California, once you're on the island, your reputation can never leave.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

Because the public has been conditioned to believe that just because
someone was on the flight list they must be a pedophile.

What list?

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 77089 Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #7 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:10pm apparently the FBI has photos of trump and Epstein together with young girls on Epsteins island
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 111599 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #8 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:11pm John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:10pm: apparently the FBI has photos of trump and Epstein together with young girls on Epsteins island Don't get Greggy started up.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #9 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:10pm:

apparently the FBI has photos of trump and Epstein together with young girls on Epsteins island

True story, I bumped into an old FBI mate and he told me everyone that saw the photos died soon after. He said it was a strange coincidence that no one took seriously.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143967 Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #10 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:23pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:11pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:10pm: apparently the FBI has photos of trump and Epstein together with young girls on Epsteins island Don't get Greggy started up. It's true.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #11 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:10pm:

apparently the FBI has photos of trump and Epstein together with young girls on Epsteins island

Don't get Greggy started up. Roll Eyes

It's true.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly
Reply #12 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 6:08pm:

Quote:

Just because your name is on some list possessed by Epstein
is not enough to charge you with a sex crime.

That's true - the vast majority of trips to Epstein's island
were for family vacations:

husband, wife and kids.

Unless there is video evidence, it's all gossip mongering.

What does it matter that many or most trips were family vacations?

It's like saying a psycho killer wasn't that bad because he didn't murder most people he met.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

How many other senior politicians, billionaires and prominent people are listed on airline passenger manifests?

It's more than gossip if one of them is even listed in a manifest. It places them on the island.

If it's true that they were there, there's no law preventing that information from being made public. What it means after that is a matter for further evidence... but, like the Hotel California, once you're on the island, your reputation can never leave.

If it's a big nothing, why is Trump so rattled?

Because the public has been conditioned to believe that just because
someone was on the flight list they must be a pedophile.

This is a man whose entire MO is saying outrageous sh!t for effect...

'Obama is not a natural born citizen'
'They're not sending their best'
'They’re rapists'
'It's just locker room talk'
'They're eating the dogs'
'After you elect me, you don't need to vote'

On and on it goes...

If he's on a list, he's on a list.

Why is he rattled now, when he could deny everything and shrug it off, as he's done every time before?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15139 Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #13 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:41pm Trump started all this sh!t about releasing the Epstein files... what's got him rattled now?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143967 Gender:	Re: Jeffrey Epstein list: Whose names are on the newly Reply #14 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:54pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:41pm: Trump started all this sh!t about releasing the Epstein files... what's got him rattled now? Some are suggesting his name appears on the list more than any other.
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