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Reply #15 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:11pm:
What did Trump say when he visited the area, lee?



What has that got to do with him gutting federal projects and being blamed for the flooding? Any visit can only come AFTER the flooding, bozo. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #16 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:25pm
 
This is a thread killer.

BBC Verify has examined the impact of cuts under President Trump in this area and while there has been a reduction in the workforce at the NWS, experts who we spoke to said the staffing on hand for the Texas floods appears to have been adequate.

This would take effect in the 2026 financial year which begins in October this year - so these particular cuts would not have contributed to the Texas tragedy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyndrwz00xo
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Reply #17 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:28pm
 
This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:34pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:28pm:
This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... Roll Eyes


It's actually scum of the earth using the deaths of children to further their agenda of hate.
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Reply #19 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:11pm:
What did Trump say when he visited the area, lee?



What has that got to do with him gutting federal projects and being blamed for the flooding? Any visit can only come AFTER the flooding, bozo. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off.

Oh dear.

And Trump still hasn't found the time to visit the area.

Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.

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Re: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths
Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:18am:
Serious question, are you retarded?

The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths.

While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo


How would he know given he was no longer there Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths
Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off.

Oh dear.



Still laughing at you kid. Grin Grin Grin Gringreggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.



So how did he cause it? Roll Eyes
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Re: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths
Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:25pm:
This is a thread killer.


Are you sure?

This seems a little like the John West approach.  It's what you leave out that's important, but let's check.

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BBC Verify has examined the impact of cuts under President Trump in this area and while there has been a reduction in the workforce at the NWS, experts who we spoke to said the staffing on hand for the Texas floods appears to have been adequate.

This would take effect in the 2026 financial year which begins in October this year - so these particular cuts would not have contributed to the Texas tragedy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyndrwz00xo


Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings?

Maybe, but as usual, there's far more beneath the surface.

Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public.

"Was", because that role is now empty.

Guess why?

His departure in April 2025, triggered by federal buyout offers tied to Trump's DOGE cuts, left a serious void in the region's emergency communication. By early July 2025, six out of 27 positions in that office remained unfilled, including Yura's.

Former NOAA and NWS officials highlighted that while forecasts were as accurate as possible given the circumstances, the loss of experienced personnel hindered effective communication with local authorities during the crisis.

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It may have killed the thread, but not the way you think it would.
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Re: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths
Reply #23 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:37pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings?



That's what the NWS does. It forecasts and issues warnings.

Do you want it to go into yearly prediction too? Roll EyesProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public.

"Was", because that role is now empty.


And yet the forecasts and warnings were still done. Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:31pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:37pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings?



That's what the NWS does. It forecasts and issues warnings.

Do you want it to go into yearly prediction too? Roll EyesProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public.

"Was", because that role is now empty.


And yet the forecasts and warnings were still done. Roll Eyes


Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee?

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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:18am:
Serious question, are you retarded?

The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths.

While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo


How would he know given he was no longer there Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The warning came at 1:30 am with no way to get the warning to the sleeping victims.

Previously the projections and warnings to put people on stand by would have gone out days in advance.


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Reply #26 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:18pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:35pm:
Previously the projections and warnings to put people on stand by would have gone out days in advance.


"THE DAY BEFORE, the NWS Forecast Office in San Antonia put out a flood watch for central Texas Hill Country, which included the site of the tragedy."

[url]  https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it.html[/url]

"Tuesday, July 2

On July 2, the Texas Division of Emergency Management said it activated "state emergency response resources in anticipation of increased threats of flooding in parts of West and Central Texas heading into the holiday weekend."
Thursday, July 3

10:48 a.m.: The National Weather Service Weather Prediction Center upgrades portions of south-central Texas, including Kerr County and surrounding areas, to a level 2 of 4 risk for excessive rainfall.

1:18 p.m.: A flood watch is issued by the NWS Austin/San Antonio office, including Kerr County and surrounding areas in south-central Texas, through Friday morning.

The alert mentions locally heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding in the region with isolated amounts of 5 to 7 inches possible, adding, "Excessive runoff may result in flooding of rivers, creeks, streams, and other low-lying and flood-prone locations. Creeks and streams may rise out of their banks."

6:10 p.m.: The Weather Prediction Center highlights the south-central Texas region (including Texas Hill Country) as an area of increasing concern for slow-moving, training thunderstorms (meaning rounds of thunderstorms moving over the same area) with the potential for rainfall rates exceeding 3 inches per hour into the evening hours and beyond."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-catastrophic-flooding-texas-claims-lives-27/s...

And that was all the day before the flood.

"Friday, July 4

1:14 a.m.: A flash flood warning is issued for Bandera and Kerr counties and include the "considerable" alert tag.

Flash flood warnings with the impact-based warning tags "considerable" or "catastrophic" denote high-damage threats, according to the NWS, and will automatically trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, including NOAA weather radios.

This ensures only the most life-threatening flash flood events prompt urgent public notifications.

This NWS alert mentioned flash flooding and highlighted the threat of "life-threatening flash flooding of creeks and streams, urban areas, highways, streets and underpasses" for locations like Kerrville, Ingram, Hunt, and the Kerr Wildlife Management area to name a few.

3:35 a.m.: The original flash flood warning is upgraded and includes more serious and specific wording:

"Move to higher ground now. Act quickly to protect your life. Flooding is occurring or is imminent. It is important to know where you are relative to streams, rivers, or creeks which can become killers in heavy rains. Campers and hikers should avoid streams or creeks."

4:03 a.m.: The flash flood warning is upgraded to a flash flood emergency for south-central Kerr County, Including Hunt.

"Numerous low water crossings as well as the Guadalupe River at Hunt are flooding. Between 4 and 10 inches of rain have fallen. The expected rainfall rate is 2 to 4 inches in 1 hour. Additional rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is already occurring," the NWS wrote.

It continued, "This is a FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY for South-central Kerr County, including Hunt. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. SEEK HIGHER GROUND NOW!"

4:35 a.m.: First reports of flash flooding start coming in from local officials, including the Kerr County Sheriff's Office, reporting flash flooding at low water crossings."

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The day of the flood.

You should make sure you get your timelines straight. Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:31pm:
Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee?


lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off.

Oh dear.



Still laughing at you kid. Grin Grin Grin Grin

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.



So how did he cause it? Roll Eyes


What did he do to cause the flooding? Roll Eyes
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Re: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths
Reply #28 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:35pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:31pm:
Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee?


lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off.

Oh dear.



Still laughing at you kid. Grin Grin Grin Grin

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.



So how did he cause it? Roll Eyes


What did he do to cause the flooding? Roll Eyes



He got elected. Nothing he has done to the weather service takes effect until October.
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Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:40pm
 
Peccary is, like the Left, obsessed with trying to make others feel guilty over anything he can find (usually trash) to use for his emotional blackmailing/trolling.
All this, a reflection of his character here, as he pursues his moral superiority over us, like an Anti-Villain doomed to deny that what he does - is an evil thing in itself.
Him drinking a cafe-latte in Perth, makes him no different to a Houso on the grog in Sydney.  Both in denial that their beloved Media, is not Politics and hence why Peccary fails to fit into this Forum upon a pro-political positive way.

He is only here to destroy.

Not a very good person is the Gwoggy.
His intelligence is very misplaced.
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