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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52770 Gender:	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #45 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 1:43pm John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 1:21pm: more useless deflections fd .... one day you might try actually discussing the issue Says the Troll (like Brian) who constantly SOOKS "You answer my questions..." time and time again.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #46 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:09pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:04am:

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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert

What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?

Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.

By opening the borders and letting their attackers just wander in?

I never said that -
by opening the border of Gaza and getting the women and kids bused out to Negev -

and following that as many other innocents as possible before destroying Hamas.
It's about doing the job that had to be done properly with as little loss of life
as is possible in a war.

What is the alternative ? -
raining down 10s 0f 1000s of MK-84 earthquake bombs on top of them?
Bibi has been a prized idiot in the way he has conducted this war -
and even Jewish people will tell you that.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #47 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 10:04am:

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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert

What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?

Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.

By opening the borders and letting their attackers just wander in?

I never said that -
by opening the border of Gaza and getting the women and kids bused out to Negev

Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #48 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:34pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?

I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #49 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?

I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.

So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #50 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:44pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?

I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.

So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?

Get them out - bus them off to tent camps -
get the Red Cross involved -
look after them until the war is over - then bus them back.

Israel could still do it now.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #51 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?

I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.

So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?

Get them out - bus them off to tent camps -
get the Red Cross involved -
look after them until the war is over - then bus them back.

Israel could still do it now.

Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #52 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:53pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.

You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #53 - Jul 12^th, 2025 at 5:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.

You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.

Who is driving the busses Bobby?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #54 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:24am

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 5:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.

You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.

Who is driving the busses Bobby?

Whoever - the Red Cross maybe?

Notice are well fed the Hamas fighters look?

Hamas get the lion's share of the food and water.
They sleep well every night, deep underground in tunnels.
They go up up to the surface when they are bored
and take a few pot shots at the IDF soldiers then return underground.
The women and children take all the return fire and bombs
as they are trapped on the surface.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #55 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:39am And what happens when Hamas takes the busses from the red cross? What makes you think the red cross would want to get involved in taking women and children away from Muslim communities and get accused of ethnic cleansing?
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #56 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 10:18am

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:39am:

And what happens when Hamas takes the busses from the red cross?

What makes you think the red cross would want to get involved in taking women and children away from Muslim communities and get accused of ethnic cleansing?

Dear FD,
many blessings.

As the buses would be outside of Gaza and people would enter them from there -
I don't see how Hamas could take the buses or even want to take them.
Hamas would be glad that their women and children are finding safety.

The Red Cross is always glad to help in any humanitarian cause.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #57 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 11:13am Quote: Hamas would be glad that their women and children are finding safety. If that were true, they would not be hiding among women and children in the first place.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52770 Gender:	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #58 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:30pm Those women and children would likely be wearing concealed explosives and willingly so. Mogadishu civilians come to mind.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #59 - Jul 13^th, 2025 at 1:07pm Bobby, can men be civilians also? Or do you only want their women and children?
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