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Reply #15 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:03pm

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Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza

Because they would be accused of genocide. And the women and children would refuse to leave. Hamas would probably shoot them if they did.

Bottom line is, Israel is not responsible for Hamas' choice to wage a war in an urban area, nor are they responsible for the consequences of that choice. Hamas is. If the women and children set up camp in the desert, Hamas would join them and fire rockets at Israel from the camp.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #16 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:05pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:03pm:

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Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza

Because they would be accused of genocide.
And the women and children would refuse to leave.
Hamas would probably shoot them if they did.

That's all hypothetical.
We don't know if the women and children would have been blocked -
there was no chance to find out.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 77090 Gender:	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #17 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:05pm freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:03pm: Because they would be accused of genocide no, that's what happens when you KILL the women and children
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Reply #19 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:20pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:31am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:25am:

Do you know what the term passive voice means?

FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'

Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.

yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy

You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 77090 Gender:	Re: They called this Jew antisemitic Reply #20 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:49pm Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:20pm: Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs. keep gulping that cool aid
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #21 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:31am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:25am:

Do you know what the term passive voice means?

FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'

Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.

yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy

You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.

Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #22 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:31am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:25am:

Do you know what the term passive voice means?

FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'

Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.

yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy

You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.

Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.

Bobby, what do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #23 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:58pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.

Bobby, what do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself
every time Hamas used human shields?

Well the fact is that Israel never even tried to move the women and children out -
we'll never know now if it was possible.

Israel had a chance to prove they were better than the terrorists -
and then they fell into a propaganda trap by killing so many innocent people -
all live on TV with the whole world watching.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #24 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:11pm

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we'll never know now if it was possible.

Anything is possible Bobby, but more women and children would die in the effort to move them out than would have died in the war. What you are describing is literally a war crime. It would solve nothing. Even if they could move them out, Hamas would just move with them. Hamas is not basing itself in the city because it is some kind of sacred site to them. They are basing themselves there because that is where the women and children are to hide behind.

What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #25 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:20pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:11pm:

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we'll never know now if it was possible.

Anything is possible Bobby, but more women and children would die in the effort to move them out than would have died in the war. What you are describing is literally a war crime. It would solve nothing. Even if they could move them out, Hamas would just move with them. Hamas is not basing itself in the city because it is some kind of sacred site to them. They are basing themselves there because that is where the women and children are to hide behind.

What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?

"but more women and children would die in the effort to
move them out than would have died in the war. "

We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily - they would have been glad to go.

"What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself
every time Hamas used human shields? "

I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.

Question:
is it fair to lock women and children up in a small area from where they can't escape
and drop earthquake bombs on top of them?

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #26 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:23pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:31am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:25am:

Do you know what the term passive voice means?

FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'

Did Bush jr America genocide Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11?
The was a lot of collateral damage like women and children.
I bet you were wooting for America, because an attack in America is an attack in Australia no!?
...but Jews Roll Eyes

It's obvious you Lefties can't cope with the difficulty of urban fighting, compared to open terrain. Even the ex-Soviet Ukrainians haven't made the efforts against Russian civilians, like Israel has with Palestinian civilians that cry "Death to Jews" and, like nearly 50 boys have done, opened fire on IDF troops trying to move them to safety.
Your double standards and bigotry is obvious, let alone your ignorant stupidities of denial and plain trolling.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #27 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:17pm

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I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.

If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all, and waiting until the city empties of women and children?

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We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily

There are plenty of places in the west bank or gaza strip they can move to right now. They don't need anyone to tell them to move.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #28 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:22pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:17pm:

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I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.

If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all, and waiting until the city empties of women and children?

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We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily

There is nothing stopping them leaving voluntarily right now. What role do you expect Israel to play in that decision?

"If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all,
and waiting until the city empties of women and children?"

I was only mentioning a delay before reducing Gaza to rubble.

"There is nothing stopping them leaving voluntarily right now. "

That's false - the women and children can't get out - no one can.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

" What role do you expect Israel to play in that decision?"

Setting up tents in the Negev desert and asking the women and kids to leave -
taking them there in buses.

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #29 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:25pm

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I was only mentioning a delay before reducing Gaza to rubble.

There was a delay.

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That's false - the women and children can't get out - no one can.
It's like shooting fish an a barrel.

They don't have to get out of the west bank and gaza strip. They just have to get away from the fighting. What you are suggesting Israel should do, the Palestinians could do just as easily themselves.

Can you quote a single Palestinian woman suggesting they would voluntarily move into a camp in the middle of the desert in Israeli territory that men were not allowed into?

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