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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #30 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:41am

Belgarion wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Look up empirical evidence, then get back to me. Roll Eyes

Here's the empirical evidence, dear: Fact Sheet

"The American Immigration Council compared
crime data to demographic data from 1980
to 2022, the most recent data available, to
reveal historical trends and capture the latest patterns.
The data showed that as the immigrant share of the
population grew, the crime rate declined."

Thoughts? Undecided

The American Immigration Council is a mouthpiece for immigration, including illegal immigration. Their figures will reflect their bias and be totally out of touch with reality. Roll Eyes

They aren't their figures.

"Using Uniform Crime Reporting data from the Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
10
and population data from the U. S. Census Bureau
11
..."

10. See “Crime/Law Enforcement Stats (Uniform Crime Reporting
Program)”

11. See Ruggles et al. IPUMS USA: Version 15.0 [dataset]. 2024.

So, once again, white flag accepted.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51464 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #31 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980. The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #32 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:31pm Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm: Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980. The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation. Interesting. Could you perhaps share any proof you have of this?
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #33 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980.

The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation.

Interesting.

Could you perhaps share any proof you have of this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1751887006/23#23

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #34 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:18pm

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980.

The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation.

Interesting.

Could you perhaps share any proof you have of this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1751887006/23#23

That's the data.

I want you to provide proof that it's "manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation".

You haven't done that.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #35 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980.

The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation.

Interesting.

Could you perhaps share any proof you have of this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1751887006/23#23

That's the data.

I want you to provide proof that it's "manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation".

You haven't done that.

1980.
Not a lot of illegals until about 2005.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #36 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 4:09pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:20pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm:

Ok Boomer.

Aren't you the boomer?

So you all keep saying.

No, you do...

Why are male kangaroos called boomers?

At least you're considering me a male... I'll take that as a win.

As for Frank, I wasn't expecting a response, sad to know I was right.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #37 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Uncontrolled illegal immigration has been a problem since O'Bama, not since Reagan in 1980.

The data selection is manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation.

Interesting.

Could you perhaps share any proof you have of this?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1751887006/23#23

That's the data.

I want you to provide proof that it's "manipulated by the apologist for illegal immigration organisation".

You haven't done that.

1980.
Not a lot of illegals until about 2005.

I'm running out of storage space to keep your white flags.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #38 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:26pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:20pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm:

Ok Boomer.

Aren't you the boomer?

So you all keep saying.

No, you do...

Why are male kangaroos called boomers?

At least you're considering me a male... I'll take that as a win.

As for Frank, I wasn't expecting a response, sad to know I was right.

You should change your name back, Proud. You're going to keep being sad if you think they'll come to their senses.

They've contorted themselves out of every principle they once espoused. Years of lectures about the importance of the rule of law, Superior Culture, the Western tradition, liberalism - can you imagine the old boy using a term like that?

He did it through gritted teeth, admittedly. Years of howling about LIARS, SPINELESSNESS APOLOGETICS, AGIT PROP PWOPAGANDA.

Turns out he was tricking us all that time, no?

Now he's all-in for lies, corruption, unelected deep state elites, the lot.

Don't be sad, dear, be proud. They're the exact same thing they accuse everybody else of. You know this, everybody knows.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #39 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:46pm

Ahhhhhhh - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ......

'undocumented' people are not immigrants - immigrants are documented and approved ... they don't just get to sneak in by the back door - though your back door may be open to them...

Why should any nation be answerable to undocumented swill?

Now then - now that your feeble mind is at rest ... I've always posited, from fact, that 'boat people' who are accepted Onshore are less likely to commit crimes than those who arrive here via 'normal' channels (sort of like the front door, you understand .. a country can choose to be f

u

cked either way - Catch-a Twenty-Two) ... either way being that excessive immigration of any kind is inflationary and destructive of any ordered and Civilised society as we know it and of - eventually - human life in an overcrowded world*.......................
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........... HOWEVER ......... 'boat people' are vetted and thus become Documented for the purposes of permitting their stay here and in my eyes must therefore be permitted to stay here .... I've always argued that the exclusion policy for any undocumented claimants (boat people) who are approved ... note the difference.. is vile and unconscionable... but let's be honest here for one minute.... HOWEVER ........ (let's not drag it on too long).... those who arrive here and remain here undocumented and who are NOT vetted and approved ......... Invaders.... have ZERO right to remain here.

Can you begin to understand the difference?

It Doesn't Matter If An Undocumented Person Never Vetted And Approved Does Not Commit A Crime... it ONLY matters when a vetted and approved person commits a crime.

Get your mind right....

*I'm a grandfather - I bear a responsibility to future generations that you cannot begin to fathom ... and I accept that responsibility .... unlike many here today... and I will fight for those future generations.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #40 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 9:30am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:46pm:

Ahhhhhhh - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ......

'undocumented' people are not immigrants - immigrants are documented and approved ...

Ah, no.

Some are documented and approved, some are not.

An immigrant is "a person living in a country other than that of his or her birth".

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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 19930 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #41 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:18pm All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate. So, the usual.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51464 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #42 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:43pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:18pm: All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate. So, the usual. What do you like about illegal immigration?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #43 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:05pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:18pm: All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate. So, the usual. Yep. Irrational hatred.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #44 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?

It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.

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