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Reply #15 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one,

suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

You mongs are just too stupid. Deranged with your stupidity.

You have been talking about Trump as a criminal on the basis of a fraudulent civil case.

Ah, no.

The rapist you worship (for obvious reasons) was convicted on all 34 counts in a criminal trial.

He is a convicted felon.

Nothing you say can ever change that fact, sweetheart Wink

Different case, despicable clammy turd.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #16 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:35pm

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one,

suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

You mongs are just too stupid. Deranged with your stupidity.

You have been talking about Trump as a criminal on the basis of a fraudulent civil case.

Ah, no.

The rapist you worship (for obvious reasons) was convicted on all 34 counts in a criminal trial.

He is a convicted felon.

Nothing you say can ever change that fact, sweetheart Wink

Different case, despicable clammy turd.

So many cases that it's hard to keep track of them all.

Oh dear, another own goal from little Frannie Wink

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #17 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one,

suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

You mongs are just too stupid. Deranged with your stupidity.

You have been talking about Trump as a criminal on the basis of a fraudulent civil case. But if anyone calls illegal immigrants criminal, you go apeshite and scream hypocrisy.

This is what I like about this forum- complete idiots like teapot, clammy gweggy, braindead bbwiyan and their ilk can reveal their idiocy in a way they would be ashamed to do in real life encounters. Thank you, fd, for letting us see just how much stupidity surrounds us.
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Ok Boomer.

Immediately with the insults and as usual you've failed to show where I've done anything you've claimed.

I've called Trump a Criminal based on his felony convictions.

I've only ever said he was found liable of rape in the civil court.

If you're going to make those accusations to cover for your own hypocrisy you're going to have to back them up.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16953 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #18 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:36pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm: Ok Boomer. Aren't you the boomer?
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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Online The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 19932 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #19 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:43pm Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:36pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm: Ok Boomer. Aren't you the boomer? So you all keep saying.
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Reply #20 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Look up empirical evidence, then get back to me. Roll Eyes

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16953 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #21 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:20pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:36pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:26pm: Ok Boomer. Aren't you the boomer? So you all keep saying. No, you do... Why are male kangaroos called boomers?
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Reply #22 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 7:36am

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Look up empirical evidence, then get back to me. Roll Eyes

White flag accepted.

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Reply #23 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 9:24am

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Look up empirical evidence, then get back to me. Roll Eyes

Here's the empirical evidence, dear: Fact Sheet

"The American Immigration Council compared
crime data to demographic data from 1980
to 2022, the most recent data available, to
reveal historical trends and capture the latest patterns.
The data showed that as the immigrant share of the
population grew, the crime rate declined."

Thoughts? Undecided

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Reply #24 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:21am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

They are a burden on society. Crime is one burden, welfare dependency is another. Social fragmentation is yet another.

In the US, violent crime is disproportionately a black problem. Immigrants including illegalsdraw welfare disproportionately, as do blacks. Same in Australia, Britain, Europe.

Illegal immigration is a negative in every consideration.

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Reply #25 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:31am

ICE and FBI captured Honduran illegal alien and MS-13 gang member Jonny Handy Martinez-Barillas in Indiana.
Despite previous charges of 1st degree murder and possession of a firearm, Maryland police reneged on an ICE detainer in 2023 and allowed this MS-13 gang member to endanger American communities…until we finished the job.
But wait, there’s more!

We found another criminal alien in his passenger seat: Danilo Amilcar-Escobar was deported three times since April of 2024 alone with pending charges for STRANGULATION, DOMESTIC BATTERY AND COCAINE POSSESSION.

We’ll keep them both off the streets until justice is served — which will likely include one-way tickets back to Honduras.

https://x.com/ICEgov/status/1942619184581730726

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Reply #26 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:36am

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

They are a burden on society. Crime is one burden, welfare dependency is another. Social fragmentation is yet another.

In the US, violent crime is disproportionately a black problem. Immigrants including illegalsdraw welfare disproportionately, as do blacks. Same in Australia, Britain, Europe.

Illegal immigration is a negative in every consideration.

And yet the rapist and convicted felon you admire has supported it for years.

Decades.

Trump has a very long history of employing (although, not necessarily paying) illegal immigrants.

He's even married to one now.

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Reply #27 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:45am

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

They are a burden on society. Crime is one burden, welfare dependency is another. Social fragmentation is yet another.

In the US, violent crime is disproportionately a black problem. Immigrants including illegalsdraw welfare disproportionately, as do blacks. Same in Australia, Britain, Europe.

Illegal immigration is a negative in every consideration.

But blacks are an even bigger problem

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #28 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:53am

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

They are a burden on society. Crime is one burden, ...

Crime?

The rapist you worship has been convicted on 34 criminal charges.

Convicted.

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Reply #29 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:25am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Look up empirical evidence, then get back to me. Roll Eyes

Here's the empirical evidence, dear: Fact Sheet

"The American Immigration Council compared
crime data to demographic data from 1980
to 2022, the most recent data available, to
reveal historical trends and capture the latest patterns.
The data showed that as the immigrant share of the
population grew, the crime rate declined."

Thoughts? Undecided

The American Immigration Council is a mouthpiece for immigration, including illegal immigration. Their figures will reflect their bias and be totally out of touch with reality. Roll Eyes

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