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Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

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Reply #1 - Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:19pm

This is info from another site. I have seen these sort of figures before.
Objectively, if anyone is in a country illegally, they will be very careful to NOT be noticed by police.

........... The American Immigration Council compared crime data to demographic data from 1980 to 2022, the most recent data available. The data showed that as the immigrant share of the population grew, the crime rate declined. In 1980, immigrants made up 6.2 percent of the U.S. population, and the total crime rate was 5,900 crimes per 100,000 people. By 2022, the share of immigrants had more than doubled, to 13.9 percent, while the total crime rate had dropped by 60.4 percent, to 2,335 crimes per 100,000 people. Specifically, the violent crime rate fell by 34.5 percent and the property crime rate fell by 63.3 percent. ..............

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

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Reply #2 - Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:57pm

Illegals - they have already committed a crime via silent invasion, but paperwork could fix that if they were deemed suitable ... if they are illegals they are under the radar as much as possible, therefore it is not possible to determine what crimes they do or do not commit... but they need to eat somehow...

So what problem do YOU have with Trump's government deporting CRIMINAL illegals first?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98425	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #3 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:37am But of course. You never thought this was about CRIME, did you? Come come, Sprint, they're tinted. Cesterete them.
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Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:01am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

So breaking the law - being in a country illegally - is now not breaking the law.

Immigration laws are the only laws that are discussed in terms of how to help people who break them.

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Reply #5 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:22am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

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Correct.

That's exactly what he's doing.

And here's another example.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5682 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am: The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Are you saying they just made it up? If so, could you please provide your proof? Cheers.
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Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

Immigration laws are the only laws that are discussed in terms of how to help people who break them.

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Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 1:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

The very presence of an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. As for the crime rate declining..utter rubbish. Roll Eyes

Are you saying they just made it up?

If so, could you please provide your proof?

Cheers.

I'll take that as a 'no' Wink

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Reply #10 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

We already knew this.

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one, suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3336 Gender:	Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:05pm Is proudroo trying to outstupid Greg.
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Reply #12 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 5:09pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

I googled a search for crime among illegal immigrants in america.

One hit gave me the title above and a link the the US justice site , this is what I was told.
This is a chilling proof of a dictator rewriting what he does not like

.......... The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance. During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. .......

https://nij.ojp.gov/

We already knew this.

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one, suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

Frannie's a lost cause.

His TDS has overtaken his (meaningless) life.

Rape, fraud, stealing money from kids' cancer charities - he condones it all.

One can only imagine why.

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Reply #13 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:11pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one,

suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

You mongs are just too stupid. Deranged with your stupidity.

You have been talking about Trump as a criminal on the basis of a fraudulent civil case. But if anyone calls illegal immigrants criminal, you go apeshite and scream hypocrisy.

This is what I like about this forum- complete idiots like teapot, clammy gweggy, braindead bbwiyan and their ilk can reveal their idiocy in a way they would be ashamed to do in real life encounters. Thank you, fd, for letting us see just how much stupidity surrounds us.
Thank you for your service.

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Reply #14 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 7:11pm

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Not only is being undocumented not a criminal offence, it's a civil infraction, but trying to explain that to a MAGA supporter is like bringing a book to a pub brawl.

These are the same people who insist Trump isn't a rapist because he wasn't criminally convicted, despite the fact he was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. Yet when it comes to undocumented immigrants, whose presence is likewise a civil matter, not a criminal one,

suddenly civil findings are gospel and worthy of criminal condemnation?

The hypocrisy is staggering, but entirely predictable. They don't care what's legally consistent, they care about which narrative flatters their worldview. It's not about truth, it's about tribalism.

Arguing with them is wasted breath, or keystrokes.

The real tragedy is that people like Frannie, comfortably detached from the consequences of Trump's cruelty, will remain blissfully insulated. Meanwhile, millions of MAGA voters in the US, the very ones who cheered him on, are about to lose their food stamps, healthcare, and face tax hikes, a recession, food shortages and prices rises etc.

And maybe, just maybe, the old "I don't care unless it happens to me" mentality will finally kick in and wake a few of them up.

But Frannie? They'll stay perpetually deluded. This is the phase we're in now, post-fact, pre-collapse,

You mongs are just too stupid. Deranged with your stupidity.

You have been talking about Trump as a criminal on the basis of a fraudulent civil case.

Ah, no.

The rapist you worship (for obvious reasons) was convicted on all 34 counts in a criminal trial.

He is a convicted felon.

Nothing you say can ever change that fact, sweetheart Wink

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