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Reply #1 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 3:09pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 12:43pm:



Shouldn't this be under the 'what the clergy has been up to'  since the centre is run by The Sisters of St John of God?

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Reply #2 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 4:26pm
 
Is it true that there has only ever been one single proven case of a wrongful removal?  You know - not just for abuse, neglect, near-death, suffering both physical and mental, emotional trauma and so forth?

Why do the mobs who were shipped to the preacher station at Wadeye remain there?  Why have they not 'gone home' to their land stolen twice?  It's not as if anyone is PREVENTING them from 'going home'.... or FORCING them to stay there and fight it out daily....

Could it be that they are too afraid to try it alone 'out there' again ... KNOWING it's too hard?
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Reply #3 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 7:48am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 12:43pm:


Or is it fears of adoption/fostering records and their potential use for Stolen Generation compensation claims may be lost?  Roll Eyes

They've got a ticket to free ride and they don't care.  Grin
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Reply #4 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 9:30am
 
If those children were not taken into care - which happens how more than ever - they would have been bashed, raped, starved and or murdered.


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Reply #5 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am
 
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What are you afraid of Brian, you can deny reality but it is still reality. You will never understand these issues if you only look at part of the problem. Yes children were "stolen" but why and what can we learn from that.
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Reply #7 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What are you afraid of Brian, you can deny reality but it is still reality. You will never understand these issues if you only look at part of the problem. Yes children were "stolen" but why and what can we learn from that.


The reasons given, post ipso facto, are at best fraudulent and are based on Racist views IMO, Leroy.  I have little time for the blanket plea, "that it was for their own protection!"  Considering that they were consigned to hellholes in the main as domestic servants/labourers without their parents' consent, seems to pass most justifiers by.  I wonder would they like their children taken from them and consigned to hellholes?  I doubt it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm
 
They were never stolen they were saved from murder or rape or violence.

Now even more than ever

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Reply #9 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
Leroy wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What are you afraid of Brian, you can deny reality but it is still reality. You will never understand these issues if you only look at part of the problem. Yes children were "stolen" but why and what can we learn from that.


The reasons given, post ipso facto, are at best fraudulent and are based on Racist views IMO, Leroy.  I have little time for the blanket plea, "that it was for their own protection!"  Considering that they were consigned to hellholes in the main as domestic servants/labourers without their parents' consent, seems to pass most justifiers by.  I wonder would they like their children taken from them and consigned to hellholes?  I doubt it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Thats not the story I get from people who were involved, parents and children have told me different stories, some did not work out but many have contented lives. You only want to fixate on some negative aspects of what happened and not take a more holistic view. 
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Reply #10 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:46pm
 
Maybe if the Aborigines had Doctorates in Divinity, they could have fast tracked their worth to higher paid professions, rather than start where they had stood with just the qualification of menial jobs to offer.
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Reply #11 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What am I afraid of?

I am afraid for the women and children being raped and murdered and for the people who have to see all the horror.

More children now are being taken into care because of the violence.

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Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:52pm
 
Boris wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
They were never stolen they were saved from murder or rape or violence.

Now even more than ever


Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:55pm
 
Boris wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What am I afraid of?

I am afraid for the women and children being raped and murdered and for the people who have to see all the horror.

More children now are being taken into care because of the violence.


How about you volunteer your women, your children to be take away without permission and consign them to a hellhole, "Boris"?  Or are we to exist forever in your Twilight Zone?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:00pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
Leroy wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What are you afraid of Brian, you can deny reality but it is still reality. You will never understand these issues if you only look at part of the problem. Yes children were "stolen" but why and what can we learn from that.


The reasons given, post ipso facto, are at best fraudulent and are based on Racist views IMO, Leroy.  I have little time for the blanket plea, "that it was for their own protection!"  Considering that they were consigned to hellholes in the main as domestic servants/labourers without their parents' consent, seems to pass most justifiers by.  I wonder would they like their children taken from them and consigned to hellholes?  I doubt it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Thats not the story I get from people who were involved, parents and children have told me different stories, some did not work out but many have contented lives. You only want to fixate on some negative aspects of what happened and not take a more holistic view. 


I suggest you read the the written testimonies from the "National Inquiry into the Separation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children from Their Families" and see if "the holoistic approach" you advocate still exists afterwards?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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